WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.800 --> 00:00:03.680 You're listening to the Bible Guys, a podcast where a 2 00:00:03.720 --> 00:00:06.440 couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun in 3 00:00:06.559 --> 00:00:07.519 practical ways. 4 00:00:11.160 --> 00:00:21.960 Two three four, good, good morning, good morning. We talk home, not. 5 00:00:22.079 --> 00:00:26.879 Through good morning, good morning to two four. 6 00:00:27.640 --> 00:00:29.399 Hey, we want to welcome me to the Bible guys. 7 00:00:29.440 --> 00:00:30.719 I think that would have made that better is if 8 00:00:30.719 --> 00:00:32.719 you would have done like a dance step right then too. 9 00:00:35.159 --> 00:00:37.759 Hey, my name is Chris, this is Jeff Forrester, and 10 00:00:37.799 --> 00:00:40.320 we are two guys who work at the church in 11 00:00:40.399 --> 00:00:42.799 Michigan who are talking about the Bible today. 12 00:00:42.679 --> 00:00:43.799 In fun and practical ways. 13 00:00:44.079 --> 00:00:47.719 I'm pretty not in practical ways. 14 00:00:47.759 --> 00:00:49.320 Fun and and. 15 00:00:49.359 --> 00:00:53.039 Practical ways, yes, very good. Hey, we're gonna start off 16 00:00:53.079 --> 00:00:55.560 with my favorite. I think I think this is my 17 00:00:55.719 --> 00:00:59.039 favorite as long as as long as they're good, as 18 00:00:59.039 --> 00:00:59.960 long as they're good jokes. 19 00:01:00.000 --> 00:01:01.960 But this is a dad Joe competition, okay. 20 00:01:02.159 --> 00:01:05.719 And and when they're super big, awful groaners, it is 21 00:01:05.799 --> 00:01:07.120 obviously not my favorite. 22 00:01:07.680 --> 00:01:11.079 But usually they're pretty decent. Okay, don't you agree they're 23 00:01:11.079 --> 00:01:12.079 pretty decent? Usually? 24 00:01:12.680 --> 00:01:15.519 All right? You want to start A broken drum is 25 00:01:15.560 --> 00:01:22.719 the best present you can gift. Nobody can beat that. Yeah, Okay, Okay, 26 00:01:24.079 --> 00:01:26.560 there broken drum. Nobody can beat it, Yes, nobody can 27 00:01:26.599 --> 00:01:26.840 beat it. 28 00:01:26.840 --> 00:01:27.560 How about this one? 29 00:01:28.159 --> 00:01:31.079 I was going to cook alligator for dinner, but I 30 00:01:31.120 --> 00:01:34.040 realized I only had one crock butt. 31 00:01:36.159 --> 00:01:39.120 Okay, all right, hey, not bad, not bad. It's a groan, 32 00:01:40.359 --> 00:01:42.640 all right. What do priests say to get rid of 33 00:01:42.719 --> 00:01:45.599 insects in the church? What let us spray? 34 00:01:46.159 --> 00:01:46.439 Oh? 35 00:01:46.640 --> 00:01:51.200 Wow, wow, let us spray between the three? 36 00:01:51.239 --> 00:01:52.040 I like that one the best. 37 00:01:52.120 --> 00:01:53.000 Okay, okay, good. 38 00:01:53.040 --> 00:01:53.799 How about this one? 39 00:01:54.159 --> 00:01:59.200 I noticed that my ironing board cover was wrinkles. What 40 00:01:59.560 --> 00:02:00.599 was rings? 41 00:02:01.079 --> 00:02:01.879 How about wrinkled? 42 00:02:02.359 --> 00:02:02.599 Yeah? 43 00:02:02.760 --> 00:02:06.640 Okay, I noticed that my ironing board cover had wrinkles 44 00:02:06.719 --> 00:02:10.199 and laughed at the irony. But then I laughed because 45 00:02:10.199 --> 00:02:12.159 the word was irony. 46 00:02:12.520 --> 00:02:16.840 Okay, that's rough. That that was a rough one. Nose 47 00:02:16.919 --> 00:02:22.960 jokes stink, but eye jokes are cornea. Oh no, that's 48 00:02:23.039 --> 00:02:23.599 that's rough. 49 00:02:24.080 --> 00:02:24.599 That was rough. 50 00:02:24.800 --> 00:02:27.000 Okay, I'm going to go back to the priest one. 51 00:02:27.680 --> 00:02:28.159 How about this? 52 00:02:28.840 --> 00:02:31.199 People are usually shocked when they find out I'm not 53 00:02:31.240 --> 00:02:32.319 a very good electrician. 54 00:02:36.639 --> 00:02:39.599 That's a good one. A good one. That's a good one. 55 00:02:39.639 --> 00:02:40.599 People get shocked. 56 00:02:41.080 --> 00:02:44.360 Okay, why are toilets so good at poker? What we're 57 00:02:44.360 --> 00:02:48.680 telling toilet jokes now, why because they always get a flush. 58 00:02:49.479 --> 00:02:51.280 Oh that's a rough. 59 00:02:51.439 --> 00:02:53.400 It is rough that. It'd be great to get a 60 00:02:53.400 --> 00:02:59.439 fresh every time. Talk about stinking. There's another put How 61 00:02:59.479 --> 00:03:00.000 about this one? 62 00:03:01.039 --> 00:03:05.479 What happens when a microscope crashes into a telescope? 63 00:03:05.800 --> 00:03:07.520 I don't know, a kaleidoscope. 64 00:03:09.639 --> 00:03:12.680 Okay, that's a good one. It is really clever. That's clever. 65 00:03:13.240 --> 00:03:18.680 I like this one. Kaleidoscope. You get it? Two scope, 66 00:03:19.280 --> 00:03:26.120 a microscope and a telescope. They yeah, I get it. Okay, 67 00:03:26.199 --> 00:03:30.240 this one's clever. I love the way the earth rotates. 68 00:03:30.719 --> 00:03:31.879 It just makes my day. 69 00:03:33.280 --> 00:03:34.159 That is good. 70 00:03:34.599 --> 00:03:37.520 That's a clever one, makes my clever one. It literally 71 00:03:37.960 --> 00:03:39.039 literally makes my day. 72 00:03:39.319 --> 00:03:41.120 How about this one? This is the last one for me? 73 00:03:41.360 --> 00:03:43.560 Oh that was your last one? Yes, okay, how about 74 00:03:43.599 --> 00:03:48.120 this one? Felt uncomfortable driving into the cemetery? The GP. 75 00:03:50.879 --> 00:03:51.800 This is really good. 76 00:03:52.680 --> 00:03:56.080 Let me start over. Felt uncomfortable driving into the cemetery. 77 00:03:56.360 --> 00:03:59.759 The GPS blurted out that you have reached your final destination. 78 00:04:01.840 --> 00:04:02.919 I really liked that one. 79 00:04:02.960 --> 00:04:04.639 Along reached your final destination. 80 00:04:04.800 --> 00:04:06.360 You've reached your final destination. 81 00:04:06.800 --> 00:04:09.000 That is really really clever. 82 00:04:09.840 --> 00:04:10.560 That's funny. 83 00:04:11.240 --> 00:04:13.960 Oh, boy Mercy. 84 00:04:14.039 --> 00:04:16.879 All right, so we're jumping back Jeff into First Samuel 85 00:04:16.959 --> 00:04:17.800 chapter twenty five. 86 00:04:18.279 --> 00:04:21.959 Yes, and David is still running from King Saul. 87 00:04:22.319 --> 00:04:22.480 Yes. 88 00:04:22.759 --> 00:04:27.319 At this point he is in an area called Mayon, 89 00:04:28.279 --> 00:04:31.959 which is in the area of what is modern day Hebron, 90 00:04:33.160 --> 00:04:35.199 just south of Jerusalem. This would still be in the 91 00:04:35.199 --> 00:04:40.600 West Bank portion of Palestine, so it says then David 92 00:04:40.639 --> 00:04:43.160 moved down to the wilderness of Mayon, and there was 93 00:04:43.199 --> 00:04:45.560 a wealthy man from Maon who owned property near the 94 00:04:45.560 --> 00:04:48.399 town of Carmel. He had three thousand sheep and a 95 00:04:48.480 --> 00:04:51.879 thousand goats, and it was sheep shearing time. This man's 96 00:04:51.920 --> 00:04:55.519 name was Nabel, and his wife, Abigail, was a sensible 97 00:04:55.519 --> 00:04:58.240 and beautiful woman. But Nebel, a descendant of Caleb, was 98 00:04:58.319 --> 00:05:01.120 crude and mean in all his dealings. When David heard 99 00:05:01.120 --> 00:05:03.160 that Naball was shearing his sheep, he sent ten of 100 00:05:03.199 --> 00:05:05.839 his young men to Carmel with this message for Naball, 101 00:05:06.680 --> 00:05:09.000 peace and prosperity to you and your family and everything 102 00:05:09.000 --> 00:05:11.959 you own. I'm told that it's sheep sharing time. While 103 00:05:11.959 --> 00:05:15.399 your shepherds stayed among us near Carmel, we never harmed them, 104 00:05:15.399 --> 00:05:17.879 and nothing was ever stolen from them. Ask your own men, 105 00:05:17.920 --> 00:05:19.800 and they'll tell you this is true. So would you 106 00:05:19.839 --> 00:05:21.639 be kind to us, since we have come at a 107 00:05:21.680 --> 00:05:25.199 time celebration, Please share any provisions you might have on 108 00:05:25.399 --> 00:05:28.439 hand with us and with your friend David. David's young 109 00:05:28.439 --> 00:05:31.079 men gave this message to Nab in David's name, and 110 00:05:31.120 --> 00:05:33.879 they waited for a reply. Who is this fellow David? 111 00:05:34.199 --> 00:05:36.800 Nabal sneered to the young men, who does this son 112 00:05:36.839 --> 00:05:39.360 of Jesse think he is? There are lots of servants 113 00:05:39.399 --> 00:05:41.560 these days who run away from their masters. Should I 114 00:05:41.639 --> 00:05:43.360 take my bread and my water and my meat and 115 00:05:43.720 --> 00:05:45.800 that I've slaughtered for my shearers and give it to 116 00:05:45.839 --> 00:05:48.319 a band of outlaws who come from who knows where? 117 00:05:49.120 --> 00:05:51.800 So David's young men returned and told him what Nabel 118 00:05:51.839 --> 00:05:54.600 had said. Get your swords was David's why as he 119 00:05:54.639 --> 00:05:57.439 strapped on his own. Four hundred men started off with David, 120 00:05:57.439 --> 00:06:00.959 and two hundred remained behind to guard their equipment. Meanwhile, 121 00:06:01.000 --> 00:06:02.959 one of Nayball's servants went to Abigail and told her 122 00:06:03.000 --> 00:06:05.199 David sent messengers from the wilderness to greet our master, 123 00:06:05.279 --> 00:06:07.920 but he screamed insults at them. These men have been 124 00:06:08.000 --> 00:06:09.879 very good to us, and we never suffered any harm 125 00:06:09.920 --> 00:06:12.040 from them. Nothing was stolen from us the whole time 126 00:06:12.160 --> 00:06:14.279 they were with us. In fact, day and night, they 127 00:06:14.319 --> 00:06:16.480 were like a wall of protection to us and the sheep. 128 00:06:17.040 --> 00:06:18.639 You need to know this and figure out what to do, 129 00:06:18.800 --> 00:06:20.879 for there is going to be trouble for our master 130 00:06:20.959 --> 00:06:23.319 and his whole family. He's so ill tempered that no 131 00:06:23.319 --> 00:06:26.279 one can even talk to him. Abigail wasted no time 132 00:06:26.319 --> 00:06:28.399 as she quickly gathered two hundred loaves of bread and 133 00:06:28.439 --> 00:06:31.319 two wineskins full of wine, five sheep that had been slaughtered, 134 00:06:31.439 --> 00:06:34.439 nearly a bushel of roasted grain, hundred clusters or raisins, 135 00:06:34.439 --> 00:06:37.079 and two hundred fig cakes. She packed them on donkeys 136 00:06:37.079 --> 00:06:39.279 and said to her servants, go on ahead, I'll follow 137 00:06:39.279 --> 00:06:41.519 you shortly. But she didn't tell her husband, Nabel, what 138 00:06:41.600 --> 00:06:43.920 she was doing. As she was riding her donkey on 139 00:06:43.959 --> 00:06:46.079 a mountain ravine, she saw David and his army coming 140 00:06:46.079 --> 00:06:48.839 toward her. David had just been saying a lot of 141 00:06:48.879 --> 00:06:51.199 good it did to help this fellow. We protected his 142 00:06:51.279 --> 00:06:53.600 flocks in the wilderness, and nothing he owned was stolen 143 00:06:54.000 --> 00:06:56.720 or lost. But he has repaid me evil for good. 144 00:06:57.000 --> 00:06:59.199 May God strike me and kill me if even one 145 00:06:59.199 --> 00:07:02.839 man of his household is still alive tomorrow morning. Where 146 00:07:02.839 --> 00:07:06.199 are we reading through verse twenty two? Okay, well that's it. 147 00:07:06.879 --> 00:07:08.480 Well, what's the end of the story? 148 00:07:08.920 --> 00:07:11.839 I can't tell you. No, So his wife comes. Do 149 00:07:12.519 --> 00:07:14.040 we read the rest of the story. We read the 150 00:07:14.040 --> 00:07:15.800 rest of the story tomorrow. Don't don't don't ruin it? 151 00:07:15.839 --> 00:07:16.560 Oh is that what happens? 152 00:07:16.639 --> 00:07:19.120 Yeah? Yeah, okay, all right, all right, well then let's 153 00:07:19.360 --> 00:07:22.079 let's not talk about the ending, and let's talk about 154 00:07:22.120 --> 00:07:25.680 the fact that Nayball is kind of a jerk. 155 00:07:25.879 --> 00:07:29.519 Yeah, kind of a jerk. All right, well we got that. 156 00:07:29.560 --> 00:07:32.319 Thank you for tuning in today, join us tomorrow, and so. 157 00:07:32.279 --> 00:07:35.439 Don't be a jerk. Don't be a jerk, like yep, 158 00:07:36.360 --> 00:07:37.720 you know, it's it's interesting. 159 00:07:37.800 --> 00:07:41.199 How don't poke the bear either, Yeah, David come out 160 00:07:41.199 --> 00:07:41.759 a warpath. 161 00:07:41.839 --> 00:07:44.000 Yeah, that's right. But here's the thing. 162 00:07:44.560 --> 00:07:47.519 We may hear that, and we may sympathize perhaps with 163 00:07:47.639 --> 00:07:50.519 maybel you know, we may think, well, you know, Nabel 164 00:07:50.639 --> 00:07:52.519 was within his right. 165 00:07:53.199 --> 00:07:54.800 The law was on his side. 166 00:07:54.519 --> 00:07:58.519 Because technically the king, oh everybody knew, you know, probably. 167 00:07:58.120 --> 00:07:59.759 Most likely in the kingdom they sort of knew. 168 00:07:59.759 --> 00:08:02.639 The few, you know, the jealousy of Saul, and you know, 169 00:08:02.839 --> 00:08:05.920 Saul's slain in his thousands, David and his tens. 170 00:08:05.639 --> 00:08:06.959 And thousands and things like this. 171 00:08:07.959 --> 00:08:12.399 But the law was on Nayball's side. They technically were outlaws, right, 172 00:08:12.879 --> 00:08:15.639 and so he was within his right to say, this 173 00:08:15.680 --> 00:08:17.319 is my personal property, and I don't have to feed 174 00:08:17.319 --> 00:08:19.120 you if I don't want to. So we may sympathize, 175 00:08:19.360 --> 00:08:22.800 but we have to also understand that people in this 176 00:08:22.920 --> 00:08:28.639 region number one knew and understood which God that they 177 00:08:28.680 --> 00:08:31.439 served as a nation, right, and so they understood that 178 00:08:31.560 --> 00:08:34.840 David was a man of God. They understood everything that 179 00:08:34.919 --> 00:08:37.919 David had done. You know, he knew, he knew his 180 00:08:37.960 --> 00:08:38.759 father was Jesse. 181 00:08:39.279 --> 00:08:41.600 Right, he's acting like he doesn't know who David is. 182 00:08:41.639 --> 00:08:42.600 Who's his son of Jesse? 183 00:08:42.840 --> 00:08:43.000 Right? 184 00:08:43.039 --> 00:08:44.200 Yeah, yeah, he knows who he is. 185 00:08:44.480 --> 00:08:47.720 He knows everything about him. He knows his exploits, he 186 00:08:47.799 --> 00:08:50.960 knows the songs, he knows everything and all that. But 187 00:08:51.440 --> 00:08:54.440 you know, why would you ever bite the hand that 188 00:08:54.480 --> 00:08:57.799 feeds you? Why would you be ungrateful for somebody who 189 00:08:57.879 --> 00:09:02.200 was actually responsible for your pross parity? So here is 190 00:09:02.679 --> 00:09:06.559 well known that his men protected his his sheep and 191 00:09:06.559 --> 00:09:08.600 in his goats. They were like a wall of protection, 192 00:09:08.679 --> 00:09:12.759 they said. And yet ball is just going to be selfish. 193 00:09:12.919 --> 00:09:15.480 That's really what comes down to is looking for a reason. 194 00:09:15.519 --> 00:09:17.919 I'm going to use the law on my side to 195 00:09:17.960 --> 00:09:21.039 be selfish with my riches. 196 00:09:21.320 --> 00:09:24.840 Yeah, because social custom in the Middle East, even still 197 00:09:24.879 --> 00:09:27.519 to this day, is when travelers come, you feed them. 198 00:09:27.919 --> 00:09:30.480 It's demanded, right, you feed all of them, you have to. 199 00:09:31.080 --> 00:09:36.080 And was rich. This guy was rich. I mean three 200 00:09:36.120 --> 00:09:41.799 thousand sheep and a thousand goats. Typically in pastoral places 201 00:09:42.279 --> 00:09:48.320 like that, one goat is worth a month's bless you 202 00:09:48.399 --> 00:09:52.200 excuse me, you did you develop suddenly an allergy to me. 203 00:09:52.480 --> 00:09:55.360 I'm allergic to goats, to goats, and just mentioned goats. 204 00:09:55.399 --> 00:09:59.000 He sneezes. 205 00:09:59.039 --> 00:10:01.000 That's more clever than you, all of those fathers are. 206 00:10:01.919 --> 00:10:04.919 Yeah, that's exactly right, his dad jokes. But one goat, 207 00:10:04.960 --> 00:10:09.720 typically in a pastoralist type of society, is valued at 208 00:10:09.759 --> 00:10:13.200 about a month's income. Sheep are worth a little more. 209 00:10:14.000 --> 00:10:18.440 So he's got a thousand months worth of goats and 210 00:10:18.639 --> 00:10:19.960 three thousands. 211 00:10:19.799 --> 00:10:22.480 Of years twelve years of income. 212 00:10:22.360 --> 00:10:29.159 No, a thousand months, yeah, so twenty years, yeah, earned 213 00:10:29.200 --> 00:10:32.399 twenty years, eighty three eighty three years. 214 00:10:32.559 --> 00:10:33.480 Well, math is math. 215 00:10:33.559 --> 00:10:36.919 Yeah, math helps. I got this little I got this 216 00:10:36.960 --> 00:10:39.120 little machine I carry my pocket sometimes and you can 217 00:10:39.159 --> 00:10:41.399 do math right on it. There's nothing wrong, isn't it? 218 00:10:41.480 --> 00:10:44.679 Trying to be independent of machines. I was trying to 219 00:10:44.679 --> 00:10:45.480 do math in my head. 220 00:10:45.519 --> 00:10:48.440 Yeah, yeah, no, it's okay, it's okay. So he's got 221 00:10:48.480 --> 00:10:51.559 eighty something right there, and then three thousand sheep and 222 00:10:51.679 --> 00:10:54.120 sheep usually would be considered a little bit more valuable 223 00:10:54.120 --> 00:10:57.279 than goats because you know, you can share them, which 224 00:10:57.320 --> 00:10:59.480 is sharing time now, and you don't have to eat 225 00:10:59.519 --> 00:11:01.600 the goats, eat the sheep. So the sheep will produce 226 00:11:01.639 --> 00:11:05.440 milk and meat if you want it, but they'll produce 227 00:11:05.519 --> 00:11:07.399 wool every year, and you can sell the wolf, so 228 00:11:07.720 --> 00:11:09.919 they were worth a little bit more. So you're talking 229 00:11:09.960 --> 00:11:13.159 this guy had more wealth than he could ever spend 230 00:11:13.159 --> 00:11:15.919 in his lifetime, right right. That's really where So we're 231 00:11:15.919 --> 00:11:18.480 not talking about David rolling in with six hundred men 232 00:11:18.279 --> 00:11:21.159 on a poor guy. We're talking about the richest guy 233 00:11:21.159 --> 00:11:23.440 in the area. The other thing is this the fact 234 00:11:23.440 --> 00:11:26.759 that he's been able to prosper out on the plains. 235 00:11:27.080 --> 00:11:29.159 He's not inside of walled city. You have to remember, 236 00:11:29.159 --> 00:11:31.559 back in those days, they had walls around their cities 237 00:11:31.559 --> 00:11:35.159 because it's roving bandits outside the cities. It's just it's 238 00:11:35.240 --> 00:11:39.000 the wild wild West. It's you know, Butch Cassidy and 239 00:11:39.039 --> 00:11:42.679 the Sundance Kids, it's you know, all the bad guys. 240 00:11:42.679 --> 00:11:45.360 You get Wieter kind of world, right, whereas it's gun 241 00:11:45.440 --> 00:11:47.559 slinging and fighting that they didn't have guns. But you 242 00:11:47.600 --> 00:11:49.720 know what I'm saying, you had to fight in order 243 00:11:49.759 --> 00:11:50.679 to protect your stuff. 244 00:11:50.720 --> 00:11:52.600 I'm just curious as to how many more fifty year 245 00:11:52.600 --> 00:11:59.559 old references. 246 00:11:56.159 --> 00:11:57.559 One hundred and fifty years old. 247 00:11:58.440 --> 00:12:02.279 I'm just saying people our agel like, yeah, whi yeah, 248 00:12:02.320 --> 00:12:04.240 would you say American history? 249 00:12:04.679 --> 00:12:06.159 It's American history. 250 00:12:06.240 --> 00:12:07.039 Yeah, that's hilarious. 251 00:12:07.080 --> 00:12:12.840 Okay, So again you're thinking movies, Well it's a book. 252 00:12:12.919 --> 00:12:15.039 Butch, Cassie and Sundance kids, they're. 253 00:12:14.799 --> 00:12:16.720 Real guys in history, right, Yeah. 254 00:12:16.879 --> 00:12:18.279 Great, we read about them in books and then it 255 00:12:18.320 --> 00:12:21.600 became movies. I'm not just thinking about Boes, I get it. 256 00:12:21.639 --> 00:12:25.080 But you were thinking, you know, Paul Newman is a movie. Yeah, 257 00:12:25.519 --> 00:12:27.159 he was a real guy too, but it was also 258 00:12:27.360 --> 00:12:31.000 books history. Before he was a book, he was a 259 00:12:31.039 --> 00:12:31.600 real person. 260 00:12:32.039 --> 00:12:32.960 Wow. I know. 261 00:12:34.279 --> 00:12:37.679 So anyways, uh, that's what it was back then, is 262 00:12:37.720 --> 00:12:41.080 they were just if you weren't inside a walled city, 263 00:12:42.039 --> 00:12:45.879 you better be capable. This is you know that you 264 00:12:46.320 --> 00:12:49.720 oftentimes build your own own fortress, you'd have a lot 265 00:12:49.759 --> 00:12:52.320 of servants that can protect your animals. And then the 266 00:12:52.440 --> 00:12:55.399 servants were saying David's six hundred men were like a 267 00:12:55.480 --> 00:13:00.200 wall for us, literally saying, we were always protected when 268 00:13:00.240 --> 00:13:02.759 we were around, When we wereround David's men, we'd never 269 00:13:02.799 --> 00:13:06.279 lost a sheep. They were always respectful, They protected us. 270 00:13:06.360 --> 00:13:09.360 And so David's rolling in and going, hey, we protected you, 271 00:13:09.360 --> 00:13:12.960 you know, quid pro quote kind of an idea here, Hey, 272 00:13:12.960 --> 00:13:16.399 we took care of your stuff. You're wealthy. It's sharing time. 273 00:13:16.679 --> 00:13:18.919 The only reason why you're able to shear all three 274 00:13:18.960 --> 00:13:21.240 thousand of these sheep is because we made sure that 275 00:13:21.279 --> 00:13:23.600 nobody stole any of them, right right, So, hey, if 276 00:13:23.600 --> 00:13:25.120 you could share a meal with us. 277 00:13:25.480 --> 00:13:28.120 And we also have to realize as well, we have 278 00:13:28.159 --> 00:13:30.200 to put ourselves in that culture and realize that to 279 00:13:30.279 --> 00:13:33.360 say no to them is in some ways to condemn 280 00:13:33.399 --> 00:13:36.919 them to starvation. So they're out in the middle of nowhere, 281 00:13:37.320 --> 00:13:41.840 they go to Naball for help because you know, they're saying, hey, 282 00:13:41.840 --> 00:13:45.360 we're in the middle of the wilderness. Our men are hungry. 283 00:13:46.639 --> 00:13:49.159 You know. Again, we don't want to impose greatly on you, 284 00:13:49.240 --> 00:13:51.519 but you know, you know, the things that she packed 285 00:13:51.600 --> 00:13:54.960 up was a fraction, right. I mean they only took 286 00:13:55.000 --> 00:13:59.360 what five slaughtered sheep, right, five out of a thousand. 287 00:14:00.360 --> 00:14:04.480 Now they had three thousand sheep, right, and so five sheep. 288 00:14:04.960 --> 00:14:07.039 So it's just a fraction of the wealth. 289 00:14:07.519 --> 00:14:11.279 And so to say no is to say go out 290 00:14:11.320 --> 00:14:14.080 to the wilderness and die. So we have to understand too, 291 00:14:14.120 --> 00:14:18.080 from David's point of view, that this was in some 292 00:14:18.120 --> 00:14:21.080 ways an active war, not of aggression, but rather just 293 00:14:21.240 --> 00:14:25.960 of you know, just throwing out every single custom out 294 00:14:26.000 --> 00:14:30.000 the window. It's disrespectful to David, disrespectful to him the 295 00:14:30.000 --> 00:14:32.919 fact that he's the next the Norty king. It's also 296 00:14:33.559 --> 00:14:35.759 saying we would rather you die than for me to 297 00:14:35.799 --> 00:14:38.360 help you. It's just an insult on the highest levels. 298 00:14:38.919 --> 00:14:41.080 So we may think, wow, they're going to go and 299 00:14:41.279 --> 00:14:44.639 not leave a single person alive, or you're kidding me, right, 300 00:14:45.039 --> 00:14:48.039 But that's really it was. We have to understand back then, 301 00:14:48.120 --> 00:14:49.919 we don't live in the wild well West. That was 302 00:14:49.960 --> 00:14:53.320 an active war. It was an insult upon him and 303 00:14:53.399 --> 00:14:56.720 his men. So you know, we may not understand it, 304 00:14:56.759 --> 00:14:58.000 but you know. 305 00:14:57.919 --> 00:15:01.480 Well, yeah name ball was is sentencing him to death, 306 00:15:01.559 --> 00:15:04.360 not only him, but as six hundred men. Right, there's 307 00:15:04.399 --> 00:15:05.799 the other side. I made a joke about it at 308 00:15:05.840 --> 00:15:08.879 the beginning, but don't poke the bear. There is having 309 00:15:08.919 --> 00:15:12.279 an awareness of your power versus the power the people 310 00:15:12.320 --> 00:15:15.960 that you're squaring off with. There's a lot of wisdom 311 00:15:15.960 --> 00:15:20.080 in that in negotiating. If you're in your job, you 312 00:15:20.120 --> 00:15:22.799 wind up him. To negotiate, you have to understand where 313 00:15:22.840 --> 00:15:25.240 the power sits and how to shift the power you're 314 00:15:25.279 --> 00:15:29.080 in your way. But then also to respect the you know, 315 00:15:29.679 --> 00:15:32.360 give respect to where respect should be given, or honor 316 00:15:32.360 --> 00:15:36.360 to whom honor is due. And in this situation, you've 317 00:15:36.399 --> 00:15:39.480 got a farmer who has some servants, and you've got 318 00:15:39.480 --> 00:15:43.720 a warrior who killed a giant and has six hundred 319 00:15:43.919 --> 00:15:48.720 warriors with him. And just to put it in perspective, Saul, 320 00:15:48.960 --> 00:15:52.320 when Saul went hunting, this is in chapter twenty four, 321 00:15:52.919 --> 00:15:55.840 When Saul went hunting David, he had three thousand men 322 00:15:56.320 --> 00:15:59.840 to go after David's six hundred, right, So in Saul's 323 00:15:59.840 --> 00:16:03.480 my and I need five for everyone, David has right, 324 00:16:03.559 --> 00:16:07.519 that's that's the quality of the fighters that followed David. David. 325 00:16:07.960 --> 00:16:11.200 Later on we'll read about David's mighty Men, and these 326 00:16:11.279 --> 00:16:14.440 guys are are elite, the elite of the elite of 327 00:16:14.480 --> 00:16:18.639 the elite. These guys are unbelievably tough guys and so and. 328 00:16:18.639 --> 00:16:21.320 Why wouldn't they be attracted to David, the only one 329 00:16:21.440 --> 00:16:23.000 who is willing to stand up to the giant. 330 00:16:23.120 --> 00:16:24.320 That's right, that's right. 331 00:16:24.480 --> 00:16:27.480 So I don't know if you know this this answer, 332 00:16:27.879 --> 00:16:31.080 but I know you know the first answer this question. 333 00:16:31.360 --> 00:16:35.720 But how many Giant Killers were in Saul's army? Uh? 334 00:16:36.399 --> 00:16:37.279 In Saul's army? 335 00:16:37.559 --> 00:16:40.840 Yes, just David, but he wasn't in Saul's army. 336 00:16:40.840 --> 00:16:43.759 It's a trick, yeah, right, So the answer is technically 337 00:16:43.840 --> 00:16:47.799 zero because nobody stood up to Goliath, and David wasn't 338 00:16:47.840 --> 00:16:49.120 even technically in Saul's army. 339 00:16:49.320 --> 00:16:51.759 He was immediately after he killed Goliath. 340 00:16:52.320 --> 00:16:54.919 Yeah, okay, all right, because he was put in charge. 341 00:16:55.120 --> 00:16:57.279 So technically you could argue and say. 342 00:16:57.360 --> 00:17:01.559 It depends on when you didn't specify whens Okay, but 343 00:17:01.639 --> 00:17:02.480 here's another question. 344 00:17:03.039 --> 00:17:05.000 How many Giant Killers were in David's army? 345 00:17:05.079 --> 00:17:07.839 Yeah? Multiple? So he had a couple of giant killers 346 00:17:07.880 --> 00:17:10.319 in the answer six six, Yeah. 347 00:17:10.000 --> 00:17:12.960 And the exploits of them are exactly the exploits that 348 00:17:13.000 --> 00:17:15.119 you're talking about. So you can go back and read 349 00:17:15.160 --> 00:17:18.319 the exploits of the Mighty Men and the three. The 350 00:17:18.359 --> 00:17:21.039 three were among them, but there were six giant killers. 351 00:17:21.079 --> 00:17:25.039 And why because like attracts like, that's right, right, And 352 00:17:25.119 --> 00:17:26.960 so if you're an exceptional leader, you're going to be 353 00:17:27.039 --> 00:17:29.000 you know, you're going to attract exceptional leaders. 354 00:17:29.200 --> 00:17:30.200 If if you're a person. 355 00:17:30.079 --> 00:17:33.079 Of excellence that has the high you know, bar raised Listen, 356 00:17:33.480 --> 00:17:35.720 if you're in a work environment and you don't do 357 00:17:35.799 --> 00:17:39.839 anything right and you're not you know, you're how should 358 00:17:39.839 --> 00:17:43.400 I say, like morally flexible? Right, then the people who 359 00:17:43.440 --> 00:17:45.799 are who have high morals are not going to stay 360 00:17:45.799 --> 00:17:48.279 around you, that's right, right, They're going to leave because 361 00:17:48.400 --> 00:17:51.079 like attracts like. And so you know, if you want 362 00:17:51.119 --> 00:17:54.640 to be an exceptional person, you know, then be around 363 00:17:54.720 --> 00:17:55.559 people who are. 364 00:17:55.359 --> 00:17:57.680 More exceptional than you. Right, That's just the way it is. 365 00:17:57.759 --> 00:17:59.240 If you want to be a better ping pong player, 366 00:17:59.319 --> 00:18:02.079 guess what, don't play with people who are worse than you. 367 00:18:02.119 --> 00:18:04.119 Play with people who are better than you. Right, And 368 00:18:04.160 --> 00:18:07.319 you're going to become better and sharper. And so that's 369 00:18:07.359 --> 00:18:09.920 a good moral of the story, right there. Like attracts like, 370 00:18:10.000 --> 00:18:13.079 which is why David's army was so exceptional, because David 371 00:18:13.119 --> 00:18:13.680 was exceptional. 372 00:18:13.720 --> 00:18:18.319 Right, that's right. So now Solomon, later on, David's son 373 00:18:18.319 --> 00:18:22.799 writes about the idea of you know, being careful how 374 00:18:22.799 --> 00:18:26.759 you negotiate understanding. Hey, sometimes the best thing is going 375 00:18:26.759 --> 00:18:30.440 to make peace. Jesus talks about it. Hey, you better 376 00:18:30.480 --> 00:18:33.480 count the cost before you go to war. What king 377 00:18:33.519 --> 00:18:35.640 doesn't sit down and consider does he have enough to 378 00:18:35.640 --> 00:18:38.160 go up against this bigger army or not? Right, So, 379 00:18:39.000 --> 00:18:43.799 in this situation, Nayball's temper just him being selfish, and 380 00:18:43.839 --> 00:18:48.279 his temper get him to the point where he grossly 381 00:18:49.160 --> 00:18:53.519 overestimates his own power and grossly underestimates David's. And so 382 00:18:53.599 --> 00:18:55.920 David's like, all right, that's it. You just imagine, man, 383 00:18:56.000 --> 00:18:58.160 He's brushing the dust off and going, come on, boys, 384 00:18:58.200 --> 00:19:00.440 grab your swords. And not only that, he decides he 385 00:19:00.480 --> 00:19:03.000 only needs to take two thirds of his army. He's 386 00:19:03.079 --> 00:19:04.680 leaving a third of his army back just to watch 387 00:19:04.720 --> 00:19:07.200 the stuff. Right, we don't need all you guys come on, 388 00:19:07.599 --> 00:19:11.039 And not a single person is going to stand, and 389 00:19:11.880 --> 00:19:16.680 so he grossly over Nabel, grossly overestimated his abilities and 390 00:19:16.839 --> 00:19:20.000 underestimated David's. But even Jesus talks about, hey, you need 391 00:19:20.039 --> 00:19:22.920 to be wise, you need to consider a wise person 392 00:19:23.400 --> 00:19:27.039 considers what's the cost going to be if we go 393 00:19:27.160 --> 00:19:30.799 to war, and should we make peace. Jesus not multiple 394 00:19:31.079 --> 00:19:32.839 times talks about you should run out and make peace, 395 00:19:33.359 --> 00:19:36.119 Go make peace in this situation, and he doesn't. This 396 00:19:36.279 --> 00:19:39.279 was a simple thing for Nabel to do, except for 397 00:19:39.319 --> 00:19:41.200 the fact that he thought that this was all his 398 00:19:42.039 --> 00:19:44.240 rather than a gift from God. And he decided he 399 00:19:44.319 --> 00:19:46.799 was going to go against social customs and social norms, 400 00:19:47.000 --> 00:19:49.359 and he was going to reject the service that David 401 00:19:49.640 --> 00:19:53.359