WEBVTT NOTE This file was generated by Descript 00:00:00.339 --> 00:00:01.109 Mario: Hey, Alan. 00:00:01.490 --> 00:00:02.059 Alan: how's it going? 00:00:02.740 --> 00:00:03.939 Mario: Good, good. 00:00:03.939 --> 00:00:04.539 How are you doing? 00:00:05.150 --> 00:00:12.020 Alan: I'm very well it's uh, uh, yeah, things are going okay. 00:00:12.290 --> 00:00:12.620 I dunno. 00:00:12.650 --> 00:00:17.330 It's usual, like trying to, um, I'm just juggling way too many things. 00:00:17.330 --> 00:00:19.729 I really need to slim down my projects. 00:00:20.590 --> 00:00:21.159 Mario: Yeah. 00:00:21.170 --> 00:00:22.759 Alan: I think it's starting to catch up with me. 00:00:23.324 --> 00:00:23.714 Mario: Uh, 00:00:25.189 --> 00:00:25.759 Alan: It's good though. 00:00:25.850 --> 00:00:27.530 It's uh, it keeps it interesting. 00:00:27.560 --> 00:00:29.630 There's always a lot going on. 00:00:29.720 --> 00:00:30.380 That's something, right? 00:00:31.075 --> 00:00:31.435 Mario: yup. 00:00:31.735 --> 00:00:32.064 Yup. 00:00:33.325 --> 00:00:36.835 Hey, before we, uh, keep going, I've been wanting to comment on 00:00:36.835 --> 00:00:38.605 that space shuttle back there. 00:00:38.665 --> 00:00:39.415 It's pretty cool. 00:00:39.600 --> 00:00:40.720 Alan: I like it was specialty. 00:00:40.920 --> 00:00:41.340 Yes. 00:00:41.790 --> 00:00:42.510 Yeah, it was. 00:00:42.655 --> 00:00:43.465 Mario: or your son's? 00:00:43.655 --> 00:00:44.375 Alan: And it's mine. 00:00:46.144 --> 00:00:52.685 It was a birthday present, uh, at the end of last year, um, from my wife and my son. 00:00:52.685 --> 00:00:56.525 So it's a Lego special, it's called the Lego, have a bunch 00:00:56.525 --> 00:00:59.254 of like space or NASA stuff. 00:00:59.285 --> 00:01:05.015 Um, I've got the, um, the Apollo 11 Lander on somewhere as well as in the other room. 00:01:05.075 --> 00:01:05.435 And 00:01:06.036 --> 00:01:08.166 Mario: lunar module, the Lander. 00:01:09.161 --> 00:01:14.351 Alan: So I think, I mean, Lego is kind of, it's forever fun. 00:01:14.351 --> 00:01:14.681 Right? 00:01:14.711 --> 00:01:17.231 I don't think you can never really get bored of it. 00:01:17.231 --> 00:01:20.861 And so it's, uh, I think, um, that just. 00:01:21.671 --> 00:01:22.901 Satisfying to build. 00:01:22.901 --> 00:01:26.351 I think the interesting thing about like this one as well and, and the lender as 00:01:26.351 --> 00:01:30.821 well is the, um, the details that have inside them that, you know, externally 00:01:30.941 --> 00:01:35.441 it, you don't see it, it doesn't matter to anybody looking at it, but, you 00:01:35.441 --> 00:01:38.831 know, cause you put them in there, like for instance, the, the whole landing 00:01:38.831 --> 00:01:41.291 gear on this thing, um, if you push. 00:01:41.946 --> 00:01:45.186 The back part of it, the London gate will pop out. 00:01:45.216 --> 00:01:48.756 And so there's all this internal mechanism to, um, to make it all 00:01:48.756 --> 00:01:53.346 eject and kind of like sits inside and even like the, the chairs inside of 00:01:53.346 --> 00:01:57.606 the right, um, colors that match the original space shuttle, things like this. 00:01:57.876 --> 00:02:00.546 So there's all this detailed inside that like, you could look at it and 00:02:00.546 --> 00:02:03.246 no one would ever know, but because you built it, you know, that there's 00:02:03.246 --> 00:02:06.036 all this detail inside of it and it's, uh, so it's very satisfying. 00:02:06.066 --> 00:02:06.216 Yeah. 00:02:07.006 --> 00:02:07.516 Mario: Cool. 00:02:07.756 --> 00:02:08.476 That's awesome. 00:02:08.866 --> 00:02:09.016 Yeah. 00:02:09.016 --> 00:02:11.466 I was watching a Netflix documentary the other day. 00:02:11.506 --> 00:02:16.786 Um, forget what It's called, but It's all about, um, Legos and the Lego 00:02:16.816 --> 00:02:20.896 culture and how there's a ton of adults that play with Legos, you know, and 00:02:20.896 --> 00:02:25.336 put stuff together and there's like a conference or, or something like that. 00:02:25.336 --> 00:02:26.416 And Yeah. 00:02:26.416 --> 00:02:28.096 and the people go all out building these. 00:02:28.991 --> 00:02:33.401 Amazing stuff like scenes and you know, all kinds of 00:02:33.626 --> 00:02:34.016 Alan: Seriously. 00:02:34.016 --> 00:02:34.646 It's incredible. 00:02:34.646 --> 00:02:34.916 Yeah. 00:02:34.976 --> 00:02:35.456 I mean, 00:02:35.591 --> 00:02:36.011 Mario: Yeah. 00:02:36.506 --> 00:02:40.766 Alan: when my son was younger, I it's funny because you know, when he started 00:02:40.766 --> 00:02:43.286 to get into age, It was like, okay. 00:02:43.286 --> 00:02:46.826 You know, we kind of graduated from the Duplo blocks, the bigger ones. 00:02:46.886 --> 00:02:51.026 And so it was that, hold on, I've got like some old Lego in the, in the attics. 00:02:51.026 --> 00:02:55.496 And my, so I dug out this box of, you know, like 30 year old Lego and, 00:02:55.496 --> 00:03:00.326 uh, it give it a bit of a wash and it's the same, it's exactly the same. 00:03:00.326 --> 00:03:00.896 It works fine. 00:03:01.376 --> 00:03:04.676 Um, and just sitting with him, especially when it's very 00:03:04.676 --> 00:03:06.836 small, it's amazing how that. 00:03:07.451 --> 00:03:11.771 Creative spark comes back to you and it's like, I dunno, it's you 00:03:11.861 --> 00:03:12.791 don't think you ever lose it? 00:03:12.791 --> 00:03:17.171 It's um, it's just such a satisfying, um, thing to do. 00:03:17.231 --> 00:03:20.291 Um, and especially when you've got, you know, a small child there 00:03:20.291 --> 00:03:22.471 and you're kind of like, Hey, look, this looks like a tree. 00:03:23.321 --> 00:03:24.611 It's, it's very fun. 00:03:24.761 --> 00:03:26.441 I I'm a huge Lego fan. 00:03:26.921 --> 00:03:27.541 Mario: Yeah. 00:03:27.541 --> 00:03:27.851 Yeah. 00:03:27.871 --> 00:03:31.901 I used to love playing with Legos and building stuff when I was a kid and 00:03:32.561 --> 00:03:35.051 having done that ever since I was a kid. 00:03:35.051 --> 00:03:36.341 So, um, I 00:03:36.766 --> 00:03:38.066 Alan: when you get kids, you're like, oh yeah. 00:03:38.086 --> 00:03:39.136 Now I completely let go again. 00:03:39.581 --> 00:03:39.881 Mario: yeah. 00:03:40.061 --> 00:03:40.421 Yeah. 00:03:40.481 --> 00:03:43.181 Hey, heck I don't, I wouldn't even wait until then. 00:03:43.426 --> 00:03:43.636 Alan: No, 00:03:43.811 --> 00:03:45.641 Mario: go to the store and buy some Legos. 00:03:46.096 --> 00:03:46.306 Alan: Yeah. 00:03:46.326 --> 00:03:47.896 Just treat yourself sometime. 00:03:47.916 --> 00:03:49.066 It's very satisfying. 00:03:49.651 --> 00:03:50.461 Mario: It's a lot of fun. 00:03:50.461 --> 00:03:50.941 Yeah. 00:03:51.091 --> 00:03:51.481 Oh yeah. 00:03:51.511 --> 00:03:54.631 I remember it used to be a lot of fun. 00:03:55.046 --> 00:03:56.126 Alan: That is cool. 00:03:56.276 --> 00:03:57.296 So how's it. 00:03:57.296 --> 00:03:57.476 Yeah. 00:03:57.476 --> 00:04:01.316 Have you done anything, on, uh, Fusioncast lately, anything been happening or you 00:04:01.316 --> 00:04:05.396 had been a, I know there's the problem with, you know, juggling things, right. 00:04:05.426 --> 00:04:08.936 As I was saying too many things going on and it's, uh, it's tough. 00:04:08.936 --> 00:04:11.036 Sometimes some weeks are better than others. 00:04:11.636 --> 00:04:12.116 Mario: Yeah. 00:04:12.176 --> 00:04:17.036 Nothing on the product side of things, but on the business side of things, um, 00:04:17.636 --> 00:04:20.906 I, I got the business entity formed, 00:04:21.461 --> 00:04:22.411 Alan: that's significant. 00:04:22.421 --> 00:04:23.141 And that's news. 00:04:23.171 --> 00:04:23.411 Yeah. 00:04:23.971 --> 00:04:25.261 Mario: it's, uh, it's all done. 00:04:25.261 --> 00:04:28.681 It's um, um, completed, the whole process is completed. 00:04:28.711 --> 00:04:33.151 There's one little thing that they still need to I actually was with the company 00:04:33.151 --> 00:04:35.281 that's processing the stuff for me. 00:04:35.701 --> 00:04:38.281 I was on the phone with them before this call and that's 00:04:38.281 --> 00:04:40.051 why I was a little late to it. 00:04:40.621 --> 00:04:45.001 Um, cause there was a little there was a statement or there was, um, thing 00:04:45.001 --> 00:04:49.741 that they needed to contact me so that they would ask me on record and I 00:04:49.741 --> 00:04:53.851 would provide the answer on record so that they could put it on the form and 00:04:53.851 --> 00:04:55.621 submit it to the state of California. 00:04:55.886 --> 00:04:56.276 Alan: Okay. 00:04:56.633 --> 00:04:59.693 Mario: It was like one of those things that, uh, you know, can not 00:04:59.693 --> 00:05:01.223 be completed unless, I'm there, 00:05:01.643 --> 00:05:02.123 Alan: nice. 00:05:02.243 --> 00:05:03.113 Congratulations. 00:05:03.203 --> 00:05:04.853 It says significant moment. 00:05:04.883 --> 00:05:10.853 It's a, yeah, just knowing that it's, there's nothing stopping you now, right? 00:05:11.328 --> 00:05:11.628 Mario: Yeah. 00:05:11.808 --> 00:05:12.168 Yeah. 00:05:12.427 --> 00:05:16.597 And with that, uh, I also applied for my bank account 00:05:16.932 --> 00:05:17.842 Alan: oh, I can 00:05:17.857 --> 00:05:18.277 Mario: yeah. 00:05:19.267 --> 00:05:19.537 Yeah. 00:05:19.567 --> 00:05:21.877 Cause now that I have that I can, I 00:05:21.997 --> 00:05:23.317 Alan: But start making some money with it, right? 00:05:25.432 --> 00:05:25.762 Mario: Yup. 00:05:25.822 --> 00:05:26.062 Yup. 00:05:26.092 --> 00:05:28.762 So all, moving towards that moment that I can launch. 00:05:28.942 --> 00:05:30.062 So it's getting there 00:05:30.092 --> 00:05:33.457 Alan: I mean, even your trial customers, it might be time to start saying, 00:05:33.457 --> 00:05:35.377 so you've had it free for awhile. 00:05:37.532 --> 00:05:37.952 Mario: right? 00:05:38.017 --> 00:05:38.227 Alan: in. 00:05:38.972 --> 00:05:39.362 Mario: Yeah. 00:05:40.452 --> 00:05:42.972 Alan: It's funny, the, uh, you know, we were mentioning, uh, like price 00:05:42.972 --> 00:05:44.172 plants and stuff the other day. 00:05:44.262 --> 00:05:50.442 Um, I'm kind of, um, so how did meeting get my coworking space the other day, uh, 00:05:50.472 --> 00:05:55.212 with, one of the people as she's helping me with the, the Japanese landing page 00:05:55.212 --> 00:06:00.312 and stuff, and they're also gonna help introduce me to some local businesses that 00:06:00.312 --> 00:06:02.952 I can kind of pitch directly to as well. 00:06:03.342 --> 00:06:05.862 Um, and they said that they'd been really helpful with. 00:06:06.717 --> 00:06:07.977 One of the current customers. 00:06:07.977 --> 00:06:11.607 I have that, you know, they introduced them and they've been really good to help 00:06:11.607 --> 00:06:13.917 them, helping them get things moving. 00:06:14.757 --> 00:06:20.997 And so, uh, it, I think I mentioned, I have like the three current plans, there's 00:06:20.997 --> 00:06:27.177 one, the, um, unrealistic, like unlimited, which I don't expect anybody to ever use. 00:06:27.507 --> 00:06:31.437 I'm thinking of almost like nixing that, just getting rid of that for 00:06:31.437 --> 00:06:34.817 the moment, just because you know, it's overhead and I don't expect any. 00:06:35.697 --> 00:06:39.057 Get that if you want more, just contact me and leave that as, as that 00:06:39.327 --> 00:06:41.277 rather than have a prefixed option. 00:06:41.817 --> 00:06:42.237 Um, 00:06:42.252 --> 00:06:42.672 Mario: I see. 00:06:42.927 --> 00:06:48.357 Alan: but on the, the other side, I'm gonna introduce a mini version. 00:06:48.367 --> 00:06:52.377 So I think we've talked before, rather than doing per seat pricing. 00:06:52.407 --> 00:06:55.197 I've just got, you know, like 10 seats, 20 seats. 00:06:55.197 --> 00:06:59.847 And if you need more than 20, then contact me and, 10 is like the minimum. 00:07:00.237 --> 00:07:05.157 Um, but because I, I think I mentioned before, it works quite well. 00:07:05.247 --> 00:07:07.317 If there's only if you're using it just for yourself. 00:07:07.317 --> 00:07:07.557 Right. 00:07:07.947 --> 00:07:14.037 Um, I use it pretty much only me, but it's still a very useful thing to use. 00:07:14.727 --> 00:07:17.187 I find the, the, the routine and the habit of it. 00:07:17.187 --> 00:07:17.637 very. 00:07:18.567 --> 00:07:20.667 To me just knowing what I'm going to work on next. 00:07:20.727 --> 00:07:25.527 Um, and just that achievement of like, yeah, I've got these three things done and 00:07:25.527 --> 00:07:28.647 just having a log of the stuff that I've done as well as is kind of nice to have. 00:07:29.457 --> 00:07:33.357 So, um, I'm going to introduce a mini version, which I dunno 00:07:33.357 --> 00:07:35.067 is maybe two or three people. 00:07:35.067 --> 00:07:39.237 and just charge as little as I can, you know, I'm thinking like, you 00:07:39.237 --> 00:07:41.457 know, $6, $7, something like that. 00:07:41.877 --> 00:07:47.147 Um, whatever that fits into the, you know, so it doesn't feel that the ten people 00:07:47.317 --> 00:07:49.647 is too expensive or something like that. 00:07:49.647 --> 00:07:52.797 I need to figure out, uh, I guess that would be about $15 wouldn't it would. 00:07:53.367 --> 00:07:56.347 but whatever I think I can kind of, that works. 00:07:56.347 --> 00:07:58.897 I need to think about it more, but I, I definitely want to introduce 00:07:58.927 --> 00:08:01.387 a, a much lower tier than it is. 00:08:02.047 --> 00:08:04.507 Like, you know, this is fine for yourself. 00:08:04.567 --> 00:08:09.277 And also that changed, make sure that it's clear that it is useful for yourself. 00:08:09.277 --> 00:08:13.207 it doesn't have to be, oh, well, if I'm only doing this with what one or two 00:08:13.207 --> 00:08:14.767 other people, then we don't need it. 00:08:14.797 --> 00:08:16.687 Well, no, it may be still useful. 00:08:16.687 --> 00:08:16.957 Right. 00:08:16.957 --> 00:08:20.107 So, hopefully I can, get that across in some of the copy as well. 00:08:20.107 --> 00:08:24.377 So that's the, the pricing, play with the pricing model a little bit and 00:08:24.377 --> 00:08:29.237 just see, yeah, just because I think it's, it feels a little bit high for a 00:08:29.927 --> 00:08:32.297 single person right now, or two people. 00:08:32.567 --> 00:08:37.047 Um, and so I just want to introduce something that's, you know, th that 00:08:37.487 --> 00:08:40.817 doesn't feel like a, you know, like, well, that's, you know, I don't want to pay. 00:08:42.462 --> 00:08:45.522 Mario: So if you go with that route, how many plans are you going to end up with? 00:08:45.552 --> 00:08:46.662 If you eliminate the 00:08:46.742 --> 00:08:46.952 Alan: right. 00:08:46.982 --> 00:08:48.572 I'm just going to stick with the three still. 00:08:48.602 --> 00:08:51.302 Um, I think having more than three is just going to get confusing. 00:08:51.332 --> 00:08:55.742 Um, and I mean, I guess I could still think about moving to a 00:08:55.742 --> 00:09:00.632 per user model, but I just don't want that overhead right now. 00:09:00.632 --> 00:09:01.982 I'd rather just keep it simple. 00:09:02.012 --> 00:09:08.902 Um, I mean, maybe posts per person is simple, is the most simple version. 00:09:09.232 --> 00:09:13.762 Um, but yeah, I think I'm going to get rid of the big one and just say colors. 00:09:13.852 --> 00:09:18.622 Um, and then for introduce this like mini version to go with it. 00:09:19.072 --> 00:09:20.632 So that's my. 00:09:21.602 --> 00:09:25.112 Fiddling because I'm in the middle of, um, I've made a bunch of 00:09:25.112 --> 00:09:26.702 changes to the landing page already. 00:09:26.994 --> 00:09:30.904 so while I've been doing that, it's kind of been on my mind that this like, yeah, 00:09:30.904 --> 00:09:33.684 I need something that, that is more entry. 00:09:34.224 --> 00:09:38.967 Um, and you know, in my experience as well, the, for my experience of, of 00:09:38.967 --> 00:09:44.607 companies adopting products, um, it's generally for the most part come from. 00:09:45.622 --> 00:09:50.662 The team themselves, especially this kind of product where, um, it's kind of 00:09:50.662 --> 00:09:57.082 aimed at smaller teams, um, potentially startups, um, you know, not somewhere that 00:09:57.082 --> 00:10:03.682 it's like, well, you know, we have a big deal with, you know, a, uh, an existing 00:10:04.102 --> 00:10:07.672 seller and we have these things and we will be using Microsoft teams for this. 00:10:07.672 --> 00:10:11.782 And this has to, you know, it's not something that is, uh, gonna necessarily 00:10:11.782 --> 00:10:13.642 be adopted by that type of company anyway. 00:10:13.942 --> 00:10:14.482 So. 00:10:15.307 --> 00:10:18.787 I'd rather, it came from the ground up, you know, it's like I 00:10:18.817 --> 00:10:20.797 been using this, I find it useful. 00:10:20.947 --> 00:10:22.027 We could use it as a team. 00:10:22.507 --> 00:10:25.717 that's probably, you know, it's a realistic entry, into a company 00:10:25.957 --> 00:10:30.007 for DotPlan rather than trying to aim at the top and go down. 00:10:30.337 --> 00:10:35.317 So, um, I think having something that, that feels, like not, not 00:10:35.467 --> 00:10:38.257 outrageous for a single person or a couple of people to use. 00:10:39.427 --> 00:10:39.787 Useful. 00:10:39.967 --> 00:10:40.327 I think 00:10:40.492 --> 00:10:41.572 Mario: Yeah, yeah, 00:10:42.367 --> 00:10:43.027 Alan: that's my theory. 00:10:43.057 --> 00:10:43.387 Anyway. 00:10:43.972 --> 00:10:44.302 Mario: yeah. 00:10:45.847 --> 00:10:50.857 Alan: Uh, yeah, I, uh, I also, um, I said I had meeting with FDN about that. 00:10:50.977 --> 00:10:56.977 Um, also they, I think I mentioned last time, they asked me to do a, like 00:10:57.007 --> 00:10:59.197 five to 10 minute pitch, video pitch. 00:10:59.767 --> 00:11:01.687 Um, so I did that the other day. 00:11:01.717 --> 00:11:03.547 Um, and I think it went okay. 00:11:03.547 --> 00:11:05.227 It's they've put it up on YouTube. 00:11:05.257 --> 00:11:07.927 Um, it's yeah, it, it seems okay. 00:11:08.047 --> 00:11:08.317 I. 00:11:08.487 --> 00:11:09.297 Mario: Okay, cool. 00:11:09.707 --> 00:11:10.487 Send me the link 00:11:10.847 --> 00:11:13.582 Alan: will send you the link and it's, 00:11:14.007 --> 00:11:14.607 Mario: Check it out. 00:11:14.942 --> 00:11:21.632 Alan: I'm getting, I guess, uh, I feel that my kind of pitch is becoming better. 00:11:21.652 --> 00:11:25.582 Uh, not necessarily my presentation that varies depending on the time of 00:11:25.582 --> 00:11:32.722 day and how much coffee I've had, but in terms of the, the, the structure and the 00:11:32.842 --> 00:11:35.092 clarity of what I'm saying, I feel like. 00:11:35.622 --> 00:11:38.112 Getting to the point now where I don't have to think about it. 00:11:38.172 --> 00:11:41.442 It's like, yeah, I know that the points I want to make, I just need 00:11:41.442 --> 00:11:42.462 to put them in the right order now. 00:11:43.332 --> 00:11:46.992 Um, so that it's, I guess that just comes through, you know, having done it 00:11:46.992 --> 00:11:52.032 a few times now, um, to people or even recording it, you know, we recorded 00:11:52.032 --> 00:11:54.522 it a couple of times just to see if you know, can get it better take. 00:11:55.312 --> 00:11:57.487 and even just doing that, it's like, yeah, I know this now. 00:11:57.487 --> 00:11:58.747 I don't have to think about the pitch. 00:11:59.107 --> 00:12:03.937 It's just kind of rattling it off a little bit now, which is it's good because then I 00:12:03.937 --> 00:12:09.307 can focus on, you know, my presentation of it a little bit more than what I'm saying. 00:12:09.307 --> 00:12:09.577 Great. 00:12:09.667 --> 00:12:13.057 You know, whereas currently it's like, I need to make sure I remember to say there. 00:12:13.057 --> 00:12:16.297 So whereas now it's like, yeah, I know, I know all the things I'm going to say. 00:12:16.297 --> 00:12:18.157 I just need to make sure I say them well, 00:12:18.382 --> 00:12:18.692 Mario: Yeah. 00:12:18.782 --> 00:12:19.272 Yeah. 00:12:19.722 --> 00:12:20.022 Yeah. 00:12:20.262 --> 00:12:22.612 And are you, are you doing that in English only? 00:12:22.732 --> 00:12:23.467 Alan: That is an English. 00:12:23.467 --> 00:12:26.527 They asked me to do it in English just because it'd be more comfortable for me. 00:12:26.587 --> 00:12:32.677 Um, so I, I'm going to give them a Japanese translation for subtitles. 00:12:32.707 --> 00:12:33.997 They haven't done one. 00:12:33.997 --> 00:12:36.817 So I'm going to try and run one to prove it through for 00:12:36.817 --> 00:12:38.227 them, uh, save them some time. 00:12:38.917 --> 00:12:44.617 Um, but yeah, they're going to use that to pitch two companies that 00:12:44.647 --> 00:12:46.237 they basically send a package. 00:12:46.297 --> 00:12:51.247 Every, I don't know how often, um, every now and again, to the companies 00:12:51.247 --> 00:12:54.847 that they partner with to say, like, these are the companies that were 00:12:54.847 --> 00:12:56.167 startups that we're working with. 00:12:56.197 --> 00:13:00.997 Uh, is there any that we can introduce you to, or kind of, um, set something up with? 00:13:00.997 --> 00:13:04.500 So this is part of their, partnership and introduction kind 00:13:04.500 --> 00:13:05.910 of thing that they have going. 00:13:05.910 --> 00:13:08.550 So you'd have know something might come from. 00:13:09.240 --> 00:13:09.720 Mario: Yeah. 00:13:09.750 --> 00:13:10.590 Yeah, for sure. 00:13:11.675 --> 00:13:14.395 Alan: So it's nice that, that, that helping me, with the structure and the 00:13:14.395 --> 00:13:17.485 content of the landing page as well, because I think I mentioned before 00:13:17.485 --> 00:13:23.565 the, what is expected from a Japanese, SAS landing page is quite different 00:13:23.565 --> 00:13:25.725 from what you would expect from me 00:13:26.735 --> 00:13:29.735 Mario: I remember you telling me that they expect to see all the information 00:13:29.735 --> 00:13:35.765 on the homepage and not multiple pages and things broken down by sections. 00:13:35.950 --> 00:13:38.470 Alan: No, I, it detail and information. 00:13:38.470 --> 00:13:44.080 I mean, this just generally goes through, I'm going to be very, uh, uh, hand-wavy 00:13:44.080 --> 00:13:47.800 here and obviously this doesn't apply to everybody and everything, but in 00:13:47.800 --> 00:13:53.320 general, the trend is, Interfaces here tend to be very information dense. 00:13:53.410 --> 00:13:56.740 and if something isn't on the screen, then it's like, well, doesn't it do this? 00:13:56.740 --> 00:13:57.160 No, it is. 00:13:57.160 --> 00:13:58.270 You just got to click on this first. 00:13:58.540 --> 00:14:02.230 And this, that applies to the same with landing pages and any 00:14:02.230 --> 00:14:03.917 kind of, product documentation. 00:14:04.307 --> 00:14:09.077 Um, and that also goes through to, um, product guides or help systems. 00:14:09.183 --> 00:14:14.178 you know, remember I had the video pop-up thing, um, Every place that now 00:14:14.178 --> 00:14:19.068 with, um, a page of, I think I've got this about 20, how tos, for instance, 00:14:19.098 --> 00:14:23.118 how to change your password, how to start the timer, how to check your. 00:14:24.798 --> 00:14:29.108 and whatever, basically a thing for each one, I mentioned I was using Tango, to 00:14:29.108 --> 00:14:33.068 make them, which meant, you know, me and my wife rattled them off in a few hours. 00:14:33.068 --> 00:14:34.868 We just got the English and Japanese versions done. 00:14:35.288 --> 00:14:39.608 And that's something that FDN also kind of like, you really need that because 00:14:39.638 --> 00:14:44.678 it's the first, if there's no manual, guide for the product, then it be 00:14:44.678 --> 00:14:46.178 like, well, we can't use that because. 00:14:47.413 --> 00:14:48.553 Okay, how do we know how to use it? 00:14:49.618 --> 00:14:50.038 Mario: Yeah. 00:14:50.473 --> 00:14:54.133 Alan: This kind of click around and find out does not sit well with people. 00:14:54.133 --> 00:14:57.043 they want information there, and say that that follows through 00:14:57.043 --> 00:14:58.393 to the London pages as well. 00:14:58.423 --> 00:15:01.183 The more information that you put on it, if you don't mention it on the 00:15:01.183 --> 00:15:03.553 landing page, they'll assume that it doesn't do it or it doesn't exist. 00:15:05.383 --> 00:15:08.353 So I have to be quite, information dense. 00:15:09.263 --> 00:15:14.873 And yeah, I think you kind of, I guess I'm used to seeing that on Japanese pages now. 00:15:14.873 --> 00:15:19.733 So, I can kind of understand what they're looking for a little bit better now, 00:15:19.733 --> 00:15:24.323 whereas before I'm like, what is as though it's too much now, like I kind of have an 00:15:24.323 --> 00:15:26.903 idea of what they're expecting, so yeah. 00:15:26.913 --> 00:15:30.870 I'm going to do basically, not entirely different, but the 00:15:30.870 --> 00:15:34.560 Japanese version will have more than the English version for sure. 00:15:34.660 --> 00:15:35.140 Mario: Yeah. 00:15:35.890 --> 00:15:41.380 Would you be able to at least put all the information on the homepage in like 00:15:41.380 --> 00:15:47.140 a smaller chunk of that information and then learn more and then click 00:15:47.385 --> 00:15:47.925 Alan: Potentially. 00:15:47.925 --> 00:15:48.165 Yeah. 00:15:48.195 --> 00:15:51.815 I mean, I'm not, I I don't feel, I absolutely have. 00:15:52.725 --> 00:15:54.825 You know, do exactly the same as everybody else. 00:15:54.825 --> 00:16:00.615 So it will definitely be my version of it, which will not put every single 00:16:00.615 --> 00:16:01.845 piece of information on the page. 00:16:02.205 --> 00:16:06.345 So I'm taking that as a guide rather than, you know, um, 00:16:06.705 --> 00:16:08.415 absolute have to it's just, yeah. 00:16:08.415 --> 00:16:08.625 Okay. 00:16:08.625 --> 00:16:12.735 We have to make sure that we include information that, you know, it 00:16:12.735 --> 00:16:16.640 does these things and how it does it, but I, you know, Like I have 00:16:16.640 --> 00:16:17.840 to put it all on the same page. 00:16:18.350 --> 00:16:22.160 I will probably link to it just for my own peace of mind. 00:16:22.500 --> 00:16:26.010 Mario: yeah, Yeah, That's probably what I would do too. 00:16:26.010 --> 00:16:29.160 That would be way too much to put all, all on the homepage. 00:16:29.870 --> 00:16:30.530 Alan: Yeah, exactly. 00:16:30.620 --> 00:16:31.040 Exactly. 00:16:31.250 --> 00:16:32.330 So, yep. 00:16:32.540 --> 00:16:35.390 So speaking of homepages, this is a, a curiosity. 00:16:35.480 --> 00:16:41.700 Um, so when I, this is back before I started doing, uh, DotPlan. 00:16:42.050 --> 00:16:43.190 So when I left my previous. 00:16:44.430 --> 00:16:47.280 And I'm like, okay, it's time to do something on my own. 00:16:47.340 --> 00:16:52.110 Uh, I started doing some freelance work to, to pay the rent. 00:16:52.560 --> 00:16:53.580 Um, but it's like, okay. 00:16:53.640 --> 00:16:57.540 I, the whole, what, one of the reasons for leaving the previous thing was okay, 00:16:57.540 --> 00:16:59.160 it's time to do something on my own. 00:16:59.160 --> 00:17:00.900 I need to get back into this. 00:17:01.620 --> 00:17:06.990 So one of the products, um, that I was going to make, I, I think 00:17:06.990 --> 00:17:08.700 this was the, my original plan. 00:17:08.760 --> 00:17:09.990 This was the original product. 00:17:11.883 --> 00:17:17.013 I stuck up a landing page thing, uh, with just a, I think it's like a 00:17:17.013 --> 00:17:19.983 two sentence description, one or two sentence description of what it's going 00:17:19.983 --> 00:17:24.393 to be stuck in the mailbox in there, and then, you know, published it and 00:17:24.393 --> 00:17:27.603 it's like, okay, I need to, I think I posted, I'm thinking of doing this or 00:17:27.603 --> 00:17:29.113 this is what I'm going to do on Twitter. 00:17:29.113 --> 00:17:29.943 And that was it. 00:17:30.063 --> 00:17:35.220 I kind of, then the idea evolved into something into DotPlan. 00:17:35.340 --> 00:17:39.210 It's the core concept is similar, but. 00:17:39.930 --> 00:17:43.740 rewind a little bit, the idea is basically DotPlan, but for self-study. 00:17:44.100 --> 00:17:47.580 So say for instance, I'm learning Japanese, I'm learning to play 00:17:47.580 --> 00:17:50.880 the guitar, um, you know, studying I'm interested in something. 00:17:50.880 --> 00:17:55.020 So the idea being that it's to kind of record your journey, your 00:17:55.020 --> 00:17:56.550 progress in learning something. 00:17:56.550 --> 00:17:56.790 Yeah. 00:17:56.910 --> 00:18:00.180 I mean, you know, I spent half an hour studying some Kanji today. 00:18:00.390 --> 00:18:00.750 Okay. 00:18:01.110 --> 00:18:05.310 Um, you know, yesterday I did, you know, 15 minutes of grammar review. 00:18:05.400 --> 00:18:06.440 So it's something just to say. 00:18:07.162 --> 00:18:10.852 I did this, the idea being that you can share that with other people that 00:18:10.852 --> 00:18:15.115 are doing something similar, so have a Japanese language community, You're of 00:18:15.115 --> 00:18:16.555 course, everybody's learning differently. 00:18:16.555 --> 00:18:20.845 It's not necessarily an education system, but it's a way of just having a community 00:18:20.845 --> 00:18:22.915 around a topic that you're interested in. 00:18:23.305 --> 00:18:24.685 Um, and then just see where it goes. 00:18:25.495 --> 00:18:27.475 And so that was my original core idea. 00:18:27.475 --> 00:18:30.375 and I didn't really have the product really clearly defined 00:18:30.375 --> 00:18:33.045 in my mind, but that was what the avenue I wanted to follow, 00:18:33.443 --> 00:18:38.543 and then I kind of, I had some, I talked to a few people who's, especially. 00:18:39.308 --> 00:18:42.818 Th they've involved in like investment and things like that in the city. 00:18:42.818 --> 00:18:44.798 And uh, in, in the UK. 00:18:45.278 --> 00:18:48.158 And th the main thing I got back was it, there's no money in that. 00:18:50.348 --> 00:18:53.468 I was like, that's nice, but yeah, not gonna make any 00:18:53.468 --> 00:18:55.778 money, at least not initially. 00:18:55.838 --> 00:18:59.678 And, uh, you know, it's, it's one of those that you'd have to get massive scale in 00:18:59.678 --> 00:19:01.088 order to, for it to be worth anything. 00:19:01.118 --> 00:19:02.798 And I'm like, well, public could be. 00:19:02.900 --> 00:19:05.120 Mario: it sounds like a B2C type of 00:19:05.340 --> 00:19:05.880 Alan: absolutely. 00:19:05.910 --> 00:19:12.540 And I mean, yeah, it's, my head is still very much in that area. 00:19:12.600 --> 00:19:15.870 Um, you know, like I, I like B to C products, of course. 00:19:15.870 --> 00:19:18.660 but at the same time that kind of pushed the like you'd 00:19:18.660 --> 00:19:20.370 have to get into big numbers. 00:19:21.130 --> 00:19:27.250 Sponsorship or partnership deals, and it's not going to be a, um, you know, just side 00:19:27.250 --> 00:19:28.840 project that could bring in some income. 00:19:29.020 --> 00:19:34.090 Um, so you might want to rethink like, okay. 00:19:34.090 --> 00:19:34.360 All right. 00:19:34.360 --> 00:19:37.420 So I, the, I mean, this is one of the things that came 00:19:37.450 --> 00:19:38.650 that the DotPlan came out of. 00:19:38.650 --> 00:19:38.800 Right? 00:19:38.800 --> 00:19:43.246 Because I had this similar, routine in my previous jobs and 00:19:43.336 --> 00:19:44.316 I've worked with people that the. 00:19:45.811 --> 00:19:49.915 And the same as kind of DotPlan is doing, having this publishing, what 00:19:49.915 --> 00:19:51.865 I'm doing on a weekly basis or so. 00:19:52.645 --> 00:19:55.945 And so it was like, okay, well, let's take this idea and roll it into a team. 00:19:56.305 --> 00:20:00.685 Um, you know, and it's, I know it works in the work thing. 00:20:00.715 --> 00:20:03.145 And I think that's where the, the original idea for this product came 00:20:03.145 --> 00:20:04.465 from was I know it works in work. 00:20:04.495 --> 00:20:06.025 It would be nice to do it for other things too. 00:20:06.505 --> 00:20:09.295 So I kind of rewind back into being a work based product. 00:20:09.702 --> 00:20:09.882 and so. 00:20:10.752 --> 00:20:13.292 Kind of evolved into DotPlan over a space of a few months. 00:20:13.322 --> 00:20:15.992 And I forgot about the landing page. 00:20:17.882 --> 00:20:18.482 As you do. 00:20:18.512 --> 00:20:18.872 Right. 00:20:19.352 --> 00:20:24.722 Um, because it's just that, and I'm at the domain came up for 00:20:24.722 --> 00:20:28.712 renewal, a few months ago and I'm like, oh yeah, I forgot about that. 00:20:28.772 --> 00:20:32.492 And I'll, I'll re yeah, I guess, I guess be honest, $20, whatever I'll renew it. 00:20:32.492 --> 00:20:32.942 You never know. 00:20:32.972 --> 00:20:34.532 I might think about it again sometime. 00:20:34.712 --> 00:20:39.062 And I still like the idea and I still want to do it, but I'm just not right now. 00:20:39.122 --> 00:20:39.392 So. 00:20:40.002 --> 00:20:40.362 Mario: Right. 00:20:41.492 --> 00:20:42.452 Alan: So the London pages. 00:20:42.512 --> 00:20:44.252 So this is a twisty story. 00:20:44.252 --> 00:20:46.322 This is a long way of getting to what I'm going to say. 00:20:46.652 --> 00:20:50.162 Um, so the London page is hosted on umso dot com, which I use for the 00:20:50.162 --> 00:20:52.352 DotPlan and, other landing pages. 00:20:52.412 --> 00:20:57.302 And so the price, the plan that I'm on is like $30 a month or $20 a month 00:20:57.332 --> 00:21:02.192 for like three landing, three sites, just a site builder, but it works. 00:21:02.222 --> 00:21:06.362 It's got stuff built in for like email lists and analytics and stuff. 00:21:06.362 --> 00:21:09.200 So it's just a nice drag and drop landing page builder. 00:21:09.620 --> 00:21:13.080 I really like it and recommended a U M S O dot com. 00:21:14.090 --> 00:21:20.033 And, um, so I went to do, cause I was working on the DotPlan landing 00:21:20.033 --> 00:21:22.073 page, like the past week or so. 00:21:22.313 --> 00:21:24.713 And I was like, oh, I'm at the three site limit. 00:21:24.923 --> 00:21:28.733 Um, I guess I can just delete study space, which is the one. 00:21:29.863 --> 00:21:30.133 Mario: the one. 00:21:30.133 --> 00:21:30.883 that you had forgotten 00:21:30.983 --> 00:21:32.393 Alan: Yeah, because someone clicked on it. 00:21:32.393 --> 00:21:36.023 I'm like, oh, I guess that's got an email list attached to it. 00:21:36.023 --> 00:21:39.953 So I clicked on the email list and there's like 150 signups 00:21:39.953 --> 00:21:41.843 or something, including it's. 00:21:41.903 --> 00:21:43.463 And the graph is zip like that. 00:21:43.493 --> 00:21:45.233 It's flat since I announced it. 00:21:45.233 --> 00:21:49.583 But in the past, like three months, it's like, it's got that curve going on. 00:21:49.853 --> 00:21:52.913 And like, in the past three days or so three or four days, it's 00:21:52.913 --> 00:21:55.943 been like six or seven per days leaving their email address. 00:21:55.953 --> 00:21:58.583 I'm like, okay, what, what the hell did I come from? 00:22:00.188 --> 00:22:00.848 Mario: Interesting. 00:22:00.938 --> 00:22:02.588 Alan: got a cog, cog is going in my head. 00:22:02.588 --> 00:22:03.848 Like maybe that's what I do. 00:22:05.828 --> 00:22:07.118 So I didn't delete the site. 00:22:07.328 --> 00:22:07.868 funnily enough. 00:22:08.085 --> 00:22:10.935 and now, uh, yeah, I'm, I'm kind of more than anything. 00:22:10.935 --> 00:22:14.565 I'm just curious as to like, why, how will people now finding this? 00:22:14.565 --> 00:22:18.105 Because it's been flat for 18 months, you know, like a year 00:22:18.105 --> 00:22:19.365 it's just been completely flat. 00:22:19.635 --> 00:22:22.665 And in the past, like two, two months, it's suddenly started to 00:22:22.665 --> 00:22:24.135 get more and more signups every day. 00:22:24.465 --> 00:22:26.595 And I'm like, what, what the hell's going on there? 00:22:26.685 --> 00:22:28.815 Um, so I need to look at that sometime. 00:22:29.280 --> 00:22:29.820 Mario: Yeah. 00:22:29.850 --> 00:22:31.680 And are these confirmed signups? 00:22:31.800 --> 00:22:33.600 Is there, is there a confirmation 00:22:33.795 --> 00:22:39.015 Alan: Uh, actually there's not, but they all look respectable 00:22:39.015 --> 00:22:41.385 signups as in they're all like that, 00:22:41.585 --> 00:22:41.925 Mario: Hey look 00:22:41.925 --> 00:22:42.195 Alan: legit 00:22:42.195 --> 00:22:43.005 look like spammy ones. 00:22:43.005 --> 00:22:43.455 That's for sure. 00:22:43.455 --> 00:22:43.585 Yeah. 00:22:43.585 --> 00:22:43.815 Yeah. 00:22:44.175 --> 00:22:45.795 So, I mean, it's possible. 00:22:45.795 --> 00:22:49.875 They are all spam ones and fine, you know, it's just, it's a red herring, 00:22:49.905 --> 00:22:54.135 but at the same time they, they looked legit and um, now I'm like, okay, 00:22:54.135 --> 00:22:57.105 maybe I should at least do something. 00:22:58.515 --> 00:23:01.515 More with the email, as in, maybe I should send out something like a 00:23:01.515 --> 00:23:04.125 responder email just to confirm something. 00:23:04.155 --> 00:23:06.225 So, yeah, I'm kind of curious about that now. 00:23:07.010 --> 00:23:07.610 Mario: Yeah. 00:23:07.640 --> 00:23:12.110 Something like, uh, what, you know, what prompted you to sign up what, 00:23:12.330 --> 00:23:13.820 you know, what's going on in your life 00:23:14.235 --> 00:23:14.775 Alan: Exactly. 00:23:14.775 --> 00:23:14.955 Yeah. 00:23:15.295 --> 00:23:18.652 That's exactly what I was thinking know try and get some information about, well, 00:23:18.712 --> 00:23:22.072 you know, who's signing up and why they're signing up and what are they looking for? 00:23:22.222 --> 00:23:25.102 Because it is kind of vague about what it says on the site. 00:23:25.102 --> 00:23:25.372 Right. 00:23:25.402 --> 00:23:30.652 But it also gets across what I think that the application is trying to do. 00:23:30.742 --> 00:23:33.412 It says like, like a learning community, um, share your 00:23:33.412 --> 00:23:34.522 progress or something like that. 00:23:35.122 --> 00:23:36.832 Um, so yeah, I'm kinda like. 00:23:39.542 --> 00:23:39.902 Mario: well, 00:23:39.937 --> 00:23:41.947 Alan: course I do not need another project as well. 00:23:41.947 --> 00:23:46.597 You're supposed to me, Mario, that's what you're supposed to say. 00:23:46.597 --> 00:23:47.437 That was your prompt, right? 00:23:47.437 --> 00:23:49.207 That you say don't even think about Alan. 00:23:50.012 --> 00:23:50.492 Mario: Yeah. 00:23:51.962 --> 00:23:52.712 that's true. 00:23:52.742 --> 00:23:55.477 Um, Yeah, for sure. 00:23:55.477 --> 00:24:00.277 You know, well, you already have another one going on at the same time with, 00:24:00.307 --> 00:24:02.437 uh, you know, with the business cards. 00:24:02.977 --> 00:24:03.337 Alan: Oh yeah. 00:24:03.397 --> 00:24:03.847 That was really. 00:24:04.657 --> 00:24:08.017 Mario: yeah, so, so I don't think you need another line, so for sure. 00:24:09.157 --> 00:24:10.987 That's what, uh, that's what I'm going to tell you. 00:24:12.837 --> 00:24:14.157 Alan: Wise words that very sensible. 00:24:14.827 --> 00:24:15.697 Mario: You, yeah. 00:24:15.817 --> 00:24:19.667 Uh, I mean, if you explore, That idea, like you said, send an 00:24:19.667 --> 00:24:21.567 email and ask and just kind of, 00:24:21.717 --> 00:24:22.407 Alan: sounds reasonable. 00:24:22.467 --> 00:24:23.427 Mario: you know yeah. 00:24:23.448 --> 00:24:26.808 that I've, I would, I would say that's reasonable. 00:24:26.808 --> 00:24:27.498 You can do that. 00:24:27.498 --> 00:24:29.448 Cause it's not going to take you a long time, But. 00:24:29.928 --> 00:24:35.388 if you're going to start building a product, that's not gonna work very well. 00:24:35.388 --> 00:24:35.838 It's gonna, 00:24:35.948 --> 00:24:36.218 Alan: to work. 00:24:36.518 --> 00:24:36.818 Correct. 00:24:37.278 --> 00:24:40.458 Mario: it's gonna, it's gonna take you away from your, your main 00:24:40.458 --> 00:24:42.168 focus, which should be DotPlan 00:24:42.188 --> 00:24:42.458 Alan: Right. 00:24:42.488 --> 00:24:45.218 I mean, the interesting thing about DotPlan is, you know, I've kind of 00:24:45.218 --> 00:24:49.118 got to be careful that it's actually getting to the point now where, um, 00:24:49.328 --> 00:24:53.978 it's that there's no reason apart from finding customers for this. 00:24:53.978 --> 00:24:56.888 There's nothing that it doesn't do that I feel it absolutely 00:24:56.888 --> 00:24:58.538 has to do, or there's no real. 00:24:59.808 --> 00:25:02.058 Apart from just getting more customers for it. 00:25:02.628 --> 00:25:07.218 Um, again, there's a million things I wanted to do, but they 00:25:07.218 --> 00:25:08.928 don't have to be there right now. 00:25:08.928 --> 00:25:11.508 it's, it's a complete, product as it stands. 00:25:11.508 --> 00:25:16.638 so yeah, but of course, that also means that's the, I've got to be careful because 00:25:16.638 --> 00:25:19.218 that's the bit where my brain goes. 00:25:19.398 --> 00:25:20.118 Yeah, it's done now. 00:25:22.713 --> 00:25:23.973 Well, it was it, what's interesting. 00:25:23.973 --> 00:25:26.523 Now it's not a technical challenge anymore. 00:25:26.523 --> 00:25:29.133 It's a marketing and sales challenge. 00:25:29.193 --> 00:25:33.933 And, and I know that's not the bit, which gets my brain all excited. 00:25:33.933 --> 00:25:36.393 So I'm kind of trying to force myself into that, 00:25:39.483 --> 00:25:40.623 you know, how it is, you know? 00:25:40.853 --> 00:25:41.073 Right. 00:25:42.553 --> 00:25:42.853 Mario: Yup. 00:25:43.033 --> 00:25:43.303 Yup. 00:25:43.393 --> 00:25:44.173 I know the feeling. 00:25:46.363 --> 00:25:47.293 My dog is barking 00:25:47.488 --> 00:25:47.908 Alan: What's his name? 00:25:47.968 --> 00:25:48.088 Is 00:25:48.163 --> 00:25:49.543 Mario: the background, barley. 00:25:49.828 --> 00:25:51.808 Alan: Ali Barkley multis. 00:25:51.828 --> 00:25:55.648 I think I have some cartoon Bali. 00:25:55.648 --> 00:25:56.068 That's it? 00:25:58.938 --> 00:25:59.418 Mario: Yeah. 00:25:59.478 --> 00:26:02.448 Every time, every time he sees people walking by outside. 00:26:03.208 --> 00:26:04.618 Alan: I hope you don't live in a busy street. 00:26:05.688 --> 00:26:08.328 Mario: No, it's not, it's not a busy street at all, but there is 00:26:08.328 --> 00:26:13.398 a school nearby and every well, right now, it's past that time. 00:26:13.568 --> 00:26:18.198 It must be just some people walking by, but, uh, normally around, you 00:26:18.198 --> 00:26:22.218 know, middle of the afternoon when school lets out and all the kids 00:26:22.218 --> 00:26:25.338 are walking by, um, yeah, he starts. 00:26:25.538 --> 00:26:27.158 Alan: Uh, very exciting type. 00:26:27.783 --> 00:26:28.083 Mario: Yeah. 00:26:28.083 --> 00:26:33.873 And there are some steps by the window and he, he has a spot there where he can 00:26:33.873 --> 00:26:39.903 just perch himself just to look out the window and starts barking at everyone that 00:26:39.993 --> 00:26:40.923 Alan: they sell to the other kids? 00:26:40.933 --> 00:26:41.083 Yeah, 00:26:42.003 --> 00:26:42.453 Mario: Yeah, 00:26:43.983 --> 00:26:44.433 Yeah. 00:26:44.643 --> 00:26:48.363 Oh, well, and it's hard to get rid of that habit. 00:26:48.513 --> 00:26:51.693 We've tried all kinds of things, but it's just, 00:26:52.343 --> 00:26:53.123 Alan: he's excited. 00:26:53.153 --> 00:26:53.573 He's happy 00:26:53.583 --> 00:26:54.003 Mario: yeah. 00:26:54.263 --> 00:26:54.743 Alan: other people. 00:26:55.323 --> 00:26:55.953 Mario: Yeah. 00:26:55.983 --> 00:26:56.463 Yeah. 00:26:56.683 --> 00:26:58.163 Alan: It is a retriever 00:26:58.833 --> 00:27:00.153 Mario: he's a golden retriever. 00:27:00.153 --> 00:27:00.453 Yeah. 00:27:01.133 --> 00:27:01.883 Alan: They're excitable. 00:27:02.643 --> 00:27:03.213 Mario: Oh Yeah. 00:27:03.303 --> 00:27:03.663 Yeah. 00:27:03.723 --> 00:27:08.163 And the funny thing is that he's, he's the most loving dog ever. 00:27:08.163 --> 00:27:13.683 He loves kids and people in general, like he he's a people dog, right. 00:27:13.683 --> 00:27:17.673 He doesn't care much for other dogs, but he, he loves people. 00:27:18.183 --> 00:27:23.943 And, uh, the, the people that he's barking out from the window, if, if we were to. 00:27:24.768 --> 00:27:27.588 Open the door and just let him approach them. 00:27:27.628 --> 00:27:29.808 He just melts because he wants pets. 00:27:29.808 --> 00:27:32.268 He wants to, you know, he wants attention. 00:27:32.628 --> 00:27:34.068 Alan: But if they're over there, I'm going to shout at them. 00:27:34.068 --> 00:27:34.278 Right? 00:27:34.428 --> 00:27:35.748 Mario: yeah, exactly. 00:27:35.748 --> 00:27:39.888 And so, you know people might think he's like a, like an aggressive dog 00:27:39.888 --> 00:27:43.878 or something, cause he's barking, but he's, he's the most loving dog 00:27:43.908 --> 00:27:45.438 ever and all he wants is attention. 00:27:45.588 --> 00:27:48.978 So go figure. 00:27:49.818 --> 00:27:50.388 Yeah. 00:27:50.948 --> 00:27:51.068 Alan: Yeah. 00:27:51.068 --> 00:27:52.048 He just wants that's all. 00:27:52.118 --> 00:27:52.268 So. 00:27:52.998 --> 00:27:54.048 Mario: Yeah, exactly. 00:27:55.038 --> 00:27:58.968 Oh, one thing that, uh, I did spend quite a bit of time this past 00:27:58.968 --> 00:28:01.068 week is, doing podcast editing. 00:28:01.448 --> 00:28:05.528 Alan: I noticed is lots of files there for me to get stuck into. 00:28:05.528 --> 00:28:05.768 Right. 00:28:05.778 --> 00:28:06.318 Mario: yeah. 00:28:07.728 --> 00:28:12.738 so we're pretty much caught up finally with all the backlog of episodes. 00:28:13.248 --> 00:28:16.908 There's only one more one to the last one. 00:28:16.908 --> 00:28:18.618 The one we recorded two weeks ago 00:28:18.698 --> 00:28:20.138 Alan: Oh, why would that, that caught up? 00:28:20.198 --> 00:28:20.528 Okay. 00:28:20.978 --> 00:28:25.178 So I think we kind of mentioned this on MegaMaker or something. 00:28:25.238 --> 00:28:28.508 I, it kind of could be fun to maybe not dump them all at once, 00:28:28.508 --> 00:28:33.098 but at least do a reasonably, fast schedule of getting all these out. 00:28:33.098 --> 00:28:36.968 So we are actually up to date as in we're publishing, after we record them. 00:28:36.998 --> 00:28:37.238 Right. 00:28:37.298 --> 00:28:38.618 Mario: Yeah, exactly. 00:28:38.678 --> 00:28:39.578 Alan: of having this backlog. 00:28:40.268 --> 00:28:40.688 Mario: Yeah. 00:28:40.838 --> 00:28:41.138 Yeah, 00:28:41.138 --> 00:28:43.141 my plan is going forward. 00:28:43.141 --> 00:28:43.291 This. 00:28:44.471 --> 00:28:46.931 do editing right away after we record. 00:28:47.291 --> 00:28:51.477 and just have it ready for you, within 24, 48 hours max, so that 00:28:51.477 --> 00:28:53.547 you can, publish as soon as you can. 00:28:53.607 --> 00:28:53.997 So 00:28:54.087 --> 00:28:54.777 Alan: we should do that. 00:28:54.897 --> 00:28:58.277 Um, so basically what you're saying is Alan, you've got some work to do and get 00:28:58.287 --> 00:29:00.417 all these notes written up and published. 00:29:01.042 --> 00:29:04.552 Mario: I mean, with these, with these, that, uh, we have a backlog. 00:29:04.582 --> 00:29:04.702 Yeah. 00:29:04.972 --> 00:29:07.072 It's going to be a little bit of word because 00:29:07.077 --> 00:29:07.257 Alan: Yeah. 00:29:07.447 --> 00:29:07.857 I mean, 00:29:07.912 --> 00:29:08.332 Mario: all those out. 00:29:08.547 --> 00:29:09.867 Alan: it'd be nice to yeah. 00:29:09.927 --> 00:29:14.427 Let let's, uh, to, to at least get, a couple of queued up so we can just 00:29:14.517 --> 00:29:17.997 push them out to every, I mean, even if it's, you know, once a week for the 00:29:17.997 --> 00:29:19.977 next few weeks, it'd be nice to, yeah. 00:29:20.007 --> 00:29:20.907 Start getting them out. 00:29:20.907 --> 00:29:23.027 And maybe that maybe that's not a bad idea. 00:29:23.037 --> 00:29:26.697 Maybe just publish once a week for the next, uh, I think that'd be 00:29:26.707 --> 00:29:28.617 like three or four weeks or so. 00:29:29.352 --> 00:29:29.622 Mario: Yeah. 00:29:30.042 --> 00:29:30.912 Yeah, that sounds good. 00:29:31.242 --> 00:29:35.532 But then the question becomes, what do we do with the current ones? 00:29:35.532 --> 00:29:39.132 If we publish those once a week kind of thing, 00:29:39.902 --> 00:29:40.142 Alan: Yeah. 00:29:40.362 --> 00:29:43.482 Mario: then these that we're recording, like, 00:29:44.042 --> 00:29:45.152 Alan: It's every two weeks, right? 00:29:45.932 --> 00:29:46.632 Mario: Yeah. 00:29:46.662 --> 00:29:47.022 So. 00:29:47.272 --> 00:29:49.402 Alan: I think we can drop back down to a two weeks unless there's, you 00:29:49.402 --> 00:29:54.232 know, some, um, uh, we figured out some way to keep that weekly thing going. 00:29:54.262 --> 00:29:55.542 Um, neither split it. 00:29:56.442 --> 00:30:01.942 Do mini ones or something, but I think just getting up to speed would be, 00:30:02.782 --> 00:30:05.812 cause if we publish these ones out at one, every two weeks, it's going to 00:30:05.812 --> 00:30:07.342 take us forever to get up to speed. 00:30:07.342 --> 00:30:07.642 Isn't it. 00:30:08.262 --> 00:30:08.922 Mario: Yeah. 00:30:08.952 --> 00:30:09.462 Yeah. 00:30:10.122 --> 00:30:12.282 Um, yeah, that's what I was thinking. 00:30:12.417 --> 00:30:17.517 Alan: And plus it might help, um, just the, the, having that frequency could 00:30:17.517 --> 00:30:21.717 be interesting to see about what effect it has on subscribers to just, um, and 00:30:21.717 --> 00:30:26.487 then see if dropping down to one every two weeks has any negative effect or 00:30:26.757 --> 00:30:28.497 let's just play it by ear, I'd say, 00:30:28.872 --> 00:30:29.322 Mario: Yeah. 00:30:29.592 --> 00:30:34.242 So then we would hold off on publishing the ones that we are recording now, like 00:30:34.242 --> 00:30:36.462 this one and the one so-so this one. 00:30:36.492 --> 00:30:41.732 Even if we, if I edit it now, We wouldn't publish it until we're caught up 00:30:41.902 --> 00:30:42.982 Alan: Ah, I see what you're saying. 00:30:43.012 --> 00:30:47.062 Are you saying we could effectively, um, well I guess that's the 00:30:47.062 --> 00:30:48.112 other alternative, isn't it? 00:30:48.112 --> 00:30:51.712 Is that rather I was thinking we just kind of try and catch up over the next, 00:30:51.712 --> 00:30:55.202 like two, you know, uh, uh, probably could take a couple of months, so 00:30:55.242 --> 00:30:56.572 wouldn't it to get back up to speed. 00:30:57.032 --> 00:30:57.362 Mario: yeah. 00:30:57.362 --> 00:30:57.692 That's 00:30:57.742 --> 00:31:01.702 Alan: I'll just do like a bulk dump every day. 00:31:02.132 --> 00:31:02.962 You let new episodes. 00:31:03.962 --> 00:31:04.962 Mario: Yeah, that's what I was 00:31:04.962 --> 00:31:05.142 Alan: thinking 00:31:05.142 --> 00:31:07.022 mean, that's still takes us two weeks to get up to two or 00:31:07.022 --> 00:31:08.042 three weeks to get up to speed. 00:31:08.982 --> 00:31:12.782 Mario: Yeah, but at least that, that would get us caught up a lot quicker 00:31:12.862 --> 00:31:12.972 Alan: Yup. 00:31:12.972 --> 00:31:13.072 Yup. 00:31:13.282 --> 00:31:14.072 Mario: If we do like one per day 00:31:14.072 --> 00:31:15.272 Alan: I have no problem with doing that. 00:31:15.362 --> 00:31:15.812 And then if 00:31:15.852 --> 00:31:18.882 Mario: I I'm thinking that that would, that would probably be better. 00:31:18.882 --> 00:31:22.422 I mean, it's, it's more work, but, but it would be fun, and it 00:31:22.422 --> 00:31:24.792 would get us caught up more quickly. 00:31:25.212 --> 00:31:27.372 Alan: would be nice to be publishing these after we've. 00:31:28.627 --> 00:31:29.377 Mario: Yeah. 00:31:29.407 --> 00:31:29.857 Yeah. 00:31:29.887 --> 00:31:30.607 That's my goal. 00:31:30.607 --> 00:31:33.667 I don't want to get, I don't want to get 'em behind like that anymore. 00:31:33.757 --> 00:31:39.697 This was, Yeah, It's cause it's a lot of work to, to, you know, have them 00:31:39.697 --> 00:31:44.377 pile up and then go back and have to, you know, dig ourselves from that hole. 00:31:44.377 --> 00:31:48.067 Every, you know, it's, it's a lot easier if we just do it right away. 00:31:48.242 --> 00:31:48.782 Alan: exactly. 00:31:48.782 --> 00:31:49.082 It's done. 00:31:49.082 --> 00:31:51.632 And plus, you know, that, that means we can do more timely episodes. 00:31:51.632 --> 00:31:54.002 So if there's something that, you know, we're working on, that is 00:31:54.002 --> 00:31:56.762 actually, you know, let's just the sooner we get caught up the better. 00:31:56.762 --> 00:31:58.262 So, um, yeah. 00:31:58.292 --> 00:31:58.952 Let's, let's do that. 00:31:58.982 --> 00:31:59.402 I'll okay. 00:31:59.432 --> 00:32:02.942 I'll get the first one published later today and the next one maybe tomorrow. 00:32:03.877 --> 00:32:04.297 Mario: Alright. 00:32:04.417 --> 00:32:05.077 Sounds good. 00:32:05.527 --> 00:32:05.737 Yeah. 00:32:05.737 --> 00:32:09.877 I'm going to finish editing the last one, which is the last from the backlog. 00:32:10.477 --> 00:32:12.067 And then I'll edit this one. 00:32:12.332 --> 00:32:12.692 Alan: Cool. 00:32:12.992 --> 00:32:13.322 All right. 00:32:13.682 --> 00:32:14.942 I know what I'm doing this afternoon, then. 00:32:16.957 --> 00:32:18.217 Mario: hopefully it doesn't take you it too long. 00:32:18.317 --> 00:32:19.337 Alan: No, no, it's not too bad. 00:32:19.707 --> 00:32:23.177 Although it a low, you know, the pain yourself of, uh, listening 00:32:23.177 --> 00:32:25.367 to yourself is unpleasant. 00:32:27.272 --> 00:32:29.042 I think I'm getting, I'm actually getting a little bit more 00:32:29.042 --> 00:32:30.632 used to hearing my own voice. 00:32:30.662 --> 00:32:33.332 I think this is, this does get easier over time. 00:32:33.332 --> 00:32:36.162 I thought it was literally impossible, but especially with, these pictures 00:32:36.162 --> 00:32:39.222 that I've been recording, you know, recording a couple of takes and then 00:32:39.222 --> 00:32:40.962 watching them back and things I'm. 00:32:41.292 --> 00:32:45.462 I can hear myself as an outsider a little bit better now, and it 00:32:45.462 --> 00:32:47.502 doesn't sound like me speaking. 00:32:47.502 --> 00:32:51.372 It's just somebody speaking who sounds a little bit like myself, um, 00:32:51.872 --> 00:32:52.232 Mario: Yeah. 00:32:53.762 --> 00:32:56.822 I was going to say, uh, also with all the editing that I've 00:32:56.822 --> 00:32:59.162 been doing, I feel the same way. 00:32:59.522 --> 00:33:03.332 I'm getting a little more used to hearing my own voice still. 00:33:03.467 --> 00:33:03.857 Alan: as it was. 00:33:03.857 --> 00:33:04.037 Right. 00:33:04.592 --> 00:33:05.102 Mario: Yeah. 00:33:05.462 --> 00:33:07.652 It's still is a little bit, but not as bad. 00:33:08.252 --> 00:33:08.612 Yeah. 00:33:09.527 --> 00:33:09.887 Alan: Cool. 00:33:09.947 --> 00:33:10.907 Let's let's do that then. 00:33:10.907 --> 00:33:11.177 All right. 00:33:11.207 --> 00:33:12.917 So I will that's that's my job. 00:33:13.577 --> 00:33:13.907 I'm on the 00:33:13.992 --> 00:33:14.172 Mario: right. 00:33:14.892 --> 00:33:15.792 Sounds good. 00:33:16.452 --> 00:33:18.852 So, uh, should we wrap it up here? 00:33:19.047 --> 00:33:19.347 Alan: Let's do it. 00:33:19.482 --> 00:33:22.992 Mario: Keep it, keep it short and, uh, Yeah, Yeah. 00:33:22.992 --> 00:33:23.732 That's another goal. 00:33:23.752 --> 00:33:26.832 Keeping it around 30 minutes ish, would be great. 00:33:27.622 --> 00:33:28.072 Alan: I agree. 00:33:28.262 --> 00:33:29.502 Mario: it takes less editing. 00:33:29.502 --> 00:33:30.972 It takes less time and yeah. 00:33:32.052 --> 00:33:32.472 Yeah. 00:33:32.832 --> 00:33:33.162 Cool. 00:33:34.402 --> 00:33:34.882 Alan: Excellent. 00:33:35.382 --> 00:33:36.042 Mario: All right, Alan. 00:33:36.402 --> 00:33:36.882 Thanks. 00:33:36.882 --> 00:33:40.692 Uh, again, that was, that was fun as always Yeah. 00:33:41.742 --> 00:33:44.502 Take care and, uh, I'll see you in a couple of weeks. 00:33:44.942 --> 00:33:45.362 Alan: Cheers, man. 00:33:45.912 --> 00:33:46.302 Mario: All right. 00:33:46.722 --> 00:33:47.142 See ya.