Napkin Math

Sabba and Charlie cover how to build AI products in 2026 with Sabba's MAGIC Framework, why Threads might be the most underrated marketing channel, the big lie about competition, and how AI is giving content creators new ways to extend their work.

Timestamps:

00:52 - First hate mail, we're famous now
02:01 - Why Sabba tore up the entire Q2 roadmap
06:32 - The MAGIC Framework, building AI products in 2026
25:47 - Creativity Maxing, the Channel Surfer viral story
28:28 - Threads is bigger than X (and massively underrated)
32:52 - The Big Lie About Competition
40:28 - AI & Content Creators, giving your IP away to grow

Creators and Guests

Host
Charlie Ward
Founder: Ramen Club, Ramen Space & Cosy
Host
Sabba Keynejad
Co-founder, VEED.IO

What is Napkin Math?

Join Sabba Keynejad (co-founder of VEED.io) and Charlie Ward (founder of Ramen Club, Ramen Space & Cosy) as they dive deep into the world of startups, AI, and the latest tech trends. These two legends of the London indie scene bring their no-nonsense, real-world insights to help founders, builders, and indie hackers navigate the highs and lows of entrepreneurship. Expect candid conversations, actionable takeaways, and the occasional hot take on where the future of business is headed.

Whether you're bootstrapping your way to success or scaling your next big idea, Napkin Math is your go-to podcast for unfiltered discussions on what it really takes to win in the startup game.