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Hey, everybody, we are live. We've got a great show lined up tonight. This is

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the Rise and Outshine Podcast showcase. And as you know, on this show, we

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bring on a podcaster. They showcase their show for about 10

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minutes and you, the audience at home, gets to

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vote, critique and talk about what you just experienced.

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So on your phone, you can pull up this link menti.com and

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type in that code or use your phone and scan

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that QR code. There'll be different criteria. You can grade

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on audio quality and the host, engaging

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host. The quality of the content, does the content match the expectation?

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So while you're doing that at home, I'm going to bring my co host and

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introduce you to Maria Daniels. Maria, welcome.

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Hello. I am excited to be here. Hello.

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Hello. Maria and Wise have been taking turns filling in

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as co hosts because we are ramping up towards a big event,

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September 2025, where we did it last year and

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we've done it for a few years virtually. But now that we have the podcast

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theater, we're going to bring back the shows that score the best

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over this year and bring them to Pittsburgh and

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host them live on our main stage at our Paduti Podcast

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theater. So, Maria,

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I guess. I guess you weren't here last week. So you're back this week. I

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am back this week. I don't remember what weeks I was here, I'll be honest.

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And I didn't realize until just now that we're taking turns. I guess

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we have been taking turns. That wasn't a plan, I don't think, though. No. I

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don't know if you two are working together. No, I think it just

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worked out that way. But, yeah, I'm excited. I'm excited about the show. I've

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liked this show ever since it was first introduced to me and I'm

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excited to be ramping up for the big

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reveal in September, which is basically where Wise drags

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everyone to your studio in Pittsburgh.

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Sounds good. We'll have all the dates and details. Coming up for the big event,

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we have the Flat Earth podcast with Flat Earth Dave coming up next.

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Let's hear that theme song. We're asking the experts.

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We're all on a mission to rise. In the rankings and

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outshine the competition. Welcome

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to Rise and Outshine.

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And Dave, officially welcome to the show Flat Earth Dave from

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Flat Earth. Dave.com, the Flat Earth podcast. Is there a theme coming

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up for the next 10 minutes? It's. Yes, a little bit. A little bit of

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a theme. And it's. The theme is Everything you know is a lie,

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whether you want to believe it or not. So thanks for having me on Maria

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and Jeff. And this is going to be a little different show than you

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maybe used to. Yeah, we're really excited about this. And, and

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again, the content is going to be the fun part, I think, tonight, and learning

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something and expanding our minds. But part of what we're doing on this show

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podcasters. So, you know, as we learn about new things over the next 10

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minutes, folks at home, you know, you'll pull up your phone and as you can

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see on my phone, you're able to score and give

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points to Dave on audio quality, the engaging host, the

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quality of the content, does that content match the expectation

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and production quality? How did it do overall? And after

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that, you're able to fill out a word cloud. And what we want you to

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do is type in anything that you hear,

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feel, if you're inspired, engaged,

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motivated, any kind of words that you associate. Maybe it's a

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quote from the show tonight or, you know, I ask a silly question,

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you know, something you've felt or wanted to

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share, type that into the word cloud. It's really a cool feature because at the

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end of the show, at the end of the 10 minutes, what we'll do is

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give back that word cloud in the scoring to Dave and just kind of

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review, like, how did it go? What was it like? It's probably the most nerve

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wracking part of the show is the scoring at the end, but it's always done

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with love and respect. We're only doing this to lift each other up

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and showcase our talents as podcasters and help each other

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grow in different ways. We can all learn and take a new tip here and

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there. So I don't have any other

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is going to walk us through, just kind of helping us figure out

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what we think we know and you know, and go from there.

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But before we get started and start the timer, Dave, tell us a little

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bit about how did you get started in the podcasting and even on

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this whole track that you're on. So I was working in corporate

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America and my buddy and I in the lunchroom, we were talking about some

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conspiracy stuff like the Federal Reserve, the irs. And every

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conspiracies. Open minded. Flat Earth, one step too far.

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I'm not watching your one minute video. You're banned for life. Banned for life. Banned

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for life. Banned for life. Just for even suggesting that we look. But then

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another researcher forced me to look. I went in with a closed

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attitude saying, flat Earth is stupid. I'm gonna disprove it, prove the globe,

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and be done with all of this nonsense. And for two weeks, I didn't sleep.

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Excuse me, two weeks I didn't sleep because everything that

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I thought I knew, I didn't know. So before you tune out, before you

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say, this guy's nuts, and maybe I am not, because I'm offering

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three bitcoins. You guys know what a bitcoin is, right? Bitcoin?

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$300,000 for one globe proof.

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If you think I'm nuts, that's because you think the Earth is a globe. If

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you think the Earth is a globe, you probably or should

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have a reason for that. And if you can give me that legitimate

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reason, you win. Three bitcoins. It's that simple.

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All right, very nice. What did you buy the bitcoin at?

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You might not want to turn them over. Yeah, well, it doesn't matter. It doesn't.

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It doesn't matter. What you bought them at turning them over. It's turning them over.

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So when you think flat earth, you think this. Whoops, that's not what I want

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to show you. But you think a disc in space because

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that's what they, that's what they give you, Right? This, this is two

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false models in one. No flat Earther believes that. Right.

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And people say we're all programmed to say, oh, what are we, the only pancake

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planet or the other planet's pancakes? Right. This is called a false

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binary. You got two false models, a false heliocentric model,

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and a false flat Earth model. Right.

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So what is the flat Earth? Well, the flat Earth is where we live.

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We live on a flat, non rotating topographical plane.

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Right here is the Earth at 120,000ft. We

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sent this balloon up. It was up for three and a half hours. Now the

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Earth is spinning east to west at 1,000

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miles an hour at the equator, 1,000 miles an hour because it's just over

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24,000 miles around. It spins once a day. 1,000 miles an

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hour, right? It's spinning to the east. So this

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balloon should have landed west maybe 3,000 miles to the

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west, but it landed 80 miles to the east. So not only

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did it rise up, it outran the Earth because it has to

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go faster to just to keep up to where it took off from because it's

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making a bigger circle. So there's one problem, and

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there's a million other problems. We only have 10 minutes. Normally, I've

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done over 1200 interviews since 2021. And every single time we

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go an hour, two hours, and they all invite me back because they want more

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information. So an example I'll just jump right

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to it is we can see. Too

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far right here is in

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Malibu, California. We can see Mount

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San Jacinto. I finally got that right. And

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at this distance 123 miles, there should be over

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7,000ft of curvature. That's what the

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globe math says. So we should only see the very tip of this mountain. Now,

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this is with infrared, right? An infrared camera, so

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we can cut through the haze. If you took off that, if you turned off

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the infrared, this is just blue sky and there's no mountain. Then you

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say, well, of course you can't see the mountain because the Earth is curved, right?

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Another quick one. Here's a frozen lake,

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lie flat. We all know that we need containment. Water needs containment. You

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can't take a bath if the side of the bathtub isn't there. You can't have

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a pond if the side of the pond isn't there. You don't have a lake

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without the side of the lake, and you don't have a pond. The world oceans

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without the sides of the oceans. So here's a canal, a lake,

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whatever you want to call it. We got a camera six inches off the ice.

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six miles and five miles. And according to globe

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math. Globe math, not flat earth math, right? This should

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be 30ft below that curve. You can't see my

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mouth because it's below this curve, right? A physical

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curve. A globe is required to have a physical curve at a certain

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distance, 22ft, 15 and 9ft. So

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you have to believe one of two things, that the Earth is

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flat and we're just Seeing these along the flat ice,

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or we're seeing a tangent to the Earth. And then each one of

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these is refracting a word that globe believers like to

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use, which means it's. It's miraging up and stopping at eye

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level. This one's going up, you know, 9ft, 15ft,

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you know, 30ft, right. And they all stop right at eye

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level to trick you into thinking that the Earth

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is flat. Or maybe that's. The Earth is

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you have a question at this point? All right, I can

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keep going. Yeah, no, go ahead. Yeah, no, no, no

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problem. No problem here is I'm going to put my hand

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up here so you don't see this. So. Whoops. That's again, the second

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time I did that. So here is a. Looking across

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Chicago. Looking. Looking across,

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like, Lake Michigan to Chicago. And you can't see

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Chicago because it's over 50 miles away. And at that distance. Oh, I'm

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not. I'm not showing you. I'm sorry. There we go. At that

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distance, I'm probably gonna get a bad rating for that, but here we go. It's

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okay. You can't see Chicago because

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the tops of the buildings would be 100 or more

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you can see it. It's there. It's just you can't see the light that's

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bouncing off of it. So once you learn things like the

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angular resolution limits of our eyes perspective, how

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what the horizon is, what the atmospheric horizon is, what land horizons

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I zone or your horizon, then

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you start understanding why. Why the.

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Why we see the world the way we see it. Boats over the

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horizon is always a big one. People say, you know, I've

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seen. I've seen boats go over the horizon, because that's the one that got me.

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like, I've seen boats go over the horizon. And

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you think you do. You can see a boat disappear. And so when you look

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at the horizon, when you look at the sky, the sky and the land come

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together to the point where you can't see the difference anymore. And then you

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think, that's Earth curve. But here is a horizon.

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And as we're zooming in, there's no boat out here, right? There's no boat. But

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as we increase our angular size, all of a sudden our eye

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realizes, look, there is a boat there. It's just our ability

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to see it. Now, my finger can't hide that boat unless

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my finger was a wave in the foreground. And that finger

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then will hide the entire boat as these little waves are making

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the boat look like it's going below the horizon.

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So to somebody that was indoctrinated by Bill Nye,

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the lying guy with the bow tie, we would think that that is

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Earth curve. But that is just the way our eyes see and

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way perspective works. There are a million

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other proofs that the Earth is flat. Some people

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like seasons. Seasons is one of my favorite

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ones. Now, you guys know it is

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our summer when we are tilted towards the sun,

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right? You with me? Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yes. When we are

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tilted towards the sun and when we are tilted away, it's the

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angle the rays come in that give us our

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winter, right? But seasons actually prove

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flat Earth. So let me show you real quick. What if you and

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I were. Where is it? Okay,

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so we're outside and it's freezing cold,

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and somebody comes over with a heat lamp and is holding it right above one

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of us, right? So if I said to

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you. I said, all right, this is me and this is one of

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you, right? And I said, okay, where's your. Where do

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you see that heat lamp? The sun. And you're like. It's right up there. It's

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high in the sky and you're warm because it's close to

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you. I see it from over here. And it's at

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like a 40 degree angle. It's low in the sky. So

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that's my winter sun. So our sun travels between

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the Tropic of Cancer. I'll show you that in a second. And the Tropic of

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Capricorn every six months. So keeping it at the same

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height, if I bring it over, it's getting lower

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in the sky for you. It's getting higher in the sky for me.

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I'm warm, you're cold. My winter, your

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summer. That's simply how it works.

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Seasons are not because of the angle of the sun. It's

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because of the distance of the sun on a

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globe. It's cold in the morning with a

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93 million mile away sun.

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It's warm in the afternoon with a 93

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million mile away sun. And it's colder in the

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evening with a 93 million mile away sun. Because this

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little distance of a couple hundred or a thousand miles is nothing. It's

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point zero zero, whatever percentage of that distance. So there's no

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difference there. But on a flat Earth, we have a

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small local sun, we have a distant sun in the morning, not that

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far, but farther, colder. We have a

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warmer sun in the afternoon because it's closer. And then

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it gets cooler as it moves away. The sun circles around

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the Earth very easily

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within the Earth system. Here's my app. It's called the Flat Earth, Sun, Moon

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and Zodiac Clock app. And the sky is a perfect clock. Wherever

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the sun is, it's noon. The sun keeps track of the hours and the

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days. It goes around once a day. This is the moon. If

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I speed it up, you'll see that the sun is going to outrun the moon.

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And the moon's getting. It's waxing, so it'll lap the

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moon every 28, 29 days.

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And so the moon keeps track of the weeks and the

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months. There used to be 13 months of

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28 days plus one day to reset the year. That's

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365. But now we have 30, 29,

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28, 31. Right. And they make our clocks go around

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twice a day instead of once a day, so we never figure out where we

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are. And then on top of that, if you add the stars,

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the stars are going slightly faster than the sun,

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but they lap the sun once every 365 times

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around. The stars keep track of the seasons and the years, so the sun

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will drift back into each zodiac for about a

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month. And that's how we keep time. The sky

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clock is more accurate than any Swiss watch or anything

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because the sky clock is what time is

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that? There's no way to measure time other than with the. With the sky clock.

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So we live in this intelligently designed world

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where we're told nonsense, but we're born

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with God given common sense. But schooling

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teaches us to memorize and regurgitate what the controllers

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want us to know, right? The Rockefeller textbooks. If you want to

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become a teacher, get straight A's, get honors, get a degree. All

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you have to do is memorize and regurgitate and not

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question, even if you disagree. If you disagree, you're going to end

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up not getting the A. So we live in

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this world of a belief system. For example, where do

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I live? I

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remember Connecticut. So do you believe it or do you

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know it? I believe because you told me. Right?

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So we all have to take information and we have to store it

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as true or false, and we can't go verify everything.

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So you looked at me, you're like, hey, he's a good guy. He sounds like.

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I hear a little bit of a New York accent. Connecticut is next to New

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York. Why would he lie? And you did all this processing in a split second,

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and you stored it as truthful information. But gun to your head, do I live

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in Connecticut? You'd be like, I don't know. I don't know. I'm not sure.

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Right. So we live in a world where people

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believe what other people say because we're trusting,

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loving beings. But there's a lot of evil in this world that is out here

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to dissuade us. So the question that you're going to jump to, which I normally

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get to after about an hour, is why would they lie? What's the purpose?

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Why? How is everybody in on it? And the answer is no, not

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everyone's in on it. Very few people are in on it. But we've been indoctrinated

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since we were babies. Right? What happens when you try to take a ball away

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from a baby? Doesn't go well. Right. Well, try taking a ball away

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from a big baby whose entire life is wrapped around a ball.

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Space. Everything, everything is

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about this globe that we live on. We dream of outer

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space and all sorts of stuff and. But

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that's our whole foundation. So if you can

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believe that, you're on a speck of dust that came from

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nothing. Once upon a time, there was nothing. It exploded. It became everything. And then

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all the rocks turned into planets and all the gases, instead of violently filling

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the available space, like thermodynamics tell us, the gases

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collapse and turn into burning balls of gas in a space

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vacuum. All of this is impossible if you think about it.

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It's all. Breaks every law of physics, but they tell us, oh, that's what

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it is, you know, just all the gas in space, it just. There's so much

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of it. It collapses and burns for billions of years, you know, and the

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sun is made of 99% helium and hydrogen. It could hold on to

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Pluto, but it doesn't tug on our moon. Okay, What?

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Where? This is all complete and total

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nonsense. And we're all. We're all lost in space.

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We are at the center of creation. We are powerful. God

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created beings in a. In a. In a divinely created

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world. And the controllers of this world want us living in fear

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and doubt and want us to willingly give away our free

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will. And they don't want, you know, they don't want you knowing that

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your thoughts create reality, and they don't want you even thinking. It's like Truman in

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the Truman Show. He said, you know, I want to be an explorer,

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you know, and they're like, oh, there's nothing left to explore, Truman. You know, everything's

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been. Everything's been taken care of. How much time do I have? I have

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three minutes left. That was the 30 second timer just popped up.

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30 seconds. I have something cool to show you,

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but it's all right. We'll get there later.

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We'll keep it going. 30 seconds. Two minutes. Two minutes. All

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right. So we don't need to speculate

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what's beyond where we're allowed to go, but I want to point out something. We're

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not allowed to explore Antarctica independently. We're not allowed to go

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there independently and explore, but we saw some.

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We have a ship tracking site, and we saw a ship that was

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way, way out here, okay? And we're like, how does a

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ship get that far into Antarctica? And that's like

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730 miles. And we saw another one which

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was 905 miles in. And when we click on any one of these

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ships out here, tells us all the information, who the captain is, where it's going,

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what cargo that's on. It gives us tons of information. This one said, register to

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the nation of Kiribati, or Kiribati, spelled

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Kiribati. And it's

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850 meters long, 80 meters wide, which is a gigantic

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ship. So this is a map. This is a

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map that was found in a Buddhist

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temple and published in a Hawaiian newspaper in

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1907. And it showed all of these extra continents out here.

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We're like, what is that? Well, America says that

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Kiribati is a very important trade route. Where is

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it? This is the Indian Ocean in the middle of nowhere. I had to put

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a pin on it because you can't even see it is a sandbar. And they're

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like, this is an important trade route. Right? China gave

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them $10 billion. We gave them $10 billion recently. And we're like, what

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the heck is going on out there? Right? And

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on the island is a Captain Cook Hotel. If you don't know what

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Captain Cook is, he's the guy that tried to circumnate, circumnavigate Antarctica, which should

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have been 10 to 13,000 miles, but he ended up going

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68,000 miles. And it took him three and a half

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years just to go around Antarctica. That doesn't make any sense.

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So I'm wrapping this up in a couple seconds. So where is

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Kiribati? Well, first, if you break the Earth up at the

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globe into time zones, you got from the North Pole to the south pole, you

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got 24 lines. Those are your time zones. Sections like

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an orange, right? And as it spins, wherever it's facing the sun, it's

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noon there. Those are time zones. But there's one time zone that does this crazy

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jig jag. And it never made any sense to me. But at this, which I

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call the most suspicious spot is Kiribati, which

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is bizarre. Why is it there? And check this out. There's

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only 19 time zones in the inner north, 24 time zones

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in between the two tropics, and 32 time zones in the south. They

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never taught us that in school. That makes no sense. But if you took that

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map and wrapped it around a basketball, those 32 would get

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crunched together. And there's your globe. So

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what. What is. So what is those? What

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is why Is an important trade route. And this is why. This is what I'm

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saying. Where to go?

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So this is. This is that map I was telling you. What

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if there was a trade route that went like

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this from Kiribati out

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here to these outer lands? What if there was people out

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here on this extraterritory? What might you consider

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them? Extraterraxtra.

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Terrestrials from the outer space right here on

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flat Earth. The idea of aliens from outer space in a

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heliocentric system is ridiculous. The

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closest star is 25 trillion miles away. And I'll end it with

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this. The closest star is 25 trillion.

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The other ones are massively farther away. So my

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question to you is, how far is 25 trillion?

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How long is 1 trillion seconds? You guys can both guess.

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And if you guess it within one week, you win a Bitcoin.

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Okay, one trillion seconds is. Yeah, one trillion seconds. You guess it within one week,

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you win A Bitcoin. 24,000 years.

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Wow. That you're close to anyone else. 31,000

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years. Okay, 31,000 years.

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25. So if we're going a mile per second for

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31,000 years, we're only 1 25th of the way

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to the closest star in a space vacuum, which is impossible

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to. It's a. Nature abhors a vacuum.

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And then when we get there, there's nothing there. We got to go to the

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next star. It's a hundred times farther. Crazy. It's

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crazy. So I tell people, go

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to my website, flatter dave.com, check out there's a thing called the

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crash course there. Watch those videos,

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and then you two will know where you don't live. And that's on

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a crazy globe. How's that? Awesome.

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I don't remind everybody to start casting your votes. We're going to review all that

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data in a second. And preparing for this show, I did a little research.

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I, I came across the boats on the horizon. I was like, okay, there's,

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there's something there that those boats thing. Then I was like, oh. Then I was,

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I was like, oh. I remember somebody telling me once about cities, that

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how come cities, you know, even in China you have these 10 mile long

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cities of just skyscrapers after skyscraper after skyscrapers, yet they're all

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parallel to each other. Whereas the one on the one

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end and the one on the other one, why aren't they pointing away from each

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other? If they're 10 miles apart, there wouldn't be any

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variance in how upright that

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skyscraper is. The globe argument of that is the amount of

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degree tilt is very shallow, is very little,

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and, and you might not see it. And I kind of agree with that. I'll

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steel man that for the globe. You know, you can tell

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if something is leaning backwards a little bit when you're looking at it. So

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that's not the greatest argument, but yeah, it's a true argument if you had a

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real way to measure it. And then the one

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that on the map you showed us with the sun and the moon, I saw

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some people put comments about day and night, but I was like, how about

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a lunar eclipse where the earth blocks the moon?

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How does that light, how would that work? Yes, where the

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Earth gets between the moon and the sun. Yeah, so that's what we're told.

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So you're assuming that the Earth gets in between

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the sun and the moon.

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The lunar eclipse, the earth gets in between the sun and the moon and we

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have a lunar eclipse. So I'm just trying to pull up my eclipse. So

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there's an eclipse called the selenillion

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eclipse. Right. And let me explain what the selen eclipse is.

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So when we have a lunar eclipse, you got the

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sun, you got the moon, and then the Earth works its way

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up and starts eclipsing. This is what we're

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told is happening. And we see this beautiful curved shadow go

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across and it goes like that. But there's a thing called

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the selen eclipse which happens quite often. Over 50 documented

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ones in recent history. And if you're standing here,

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you're always at the top of the earth from your point of view. You got

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the moon above the horizon on your left, you got the sun above the horizon

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on your right, or vice versa. And if you can see

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both of them, the eclipse can't start. Hasn't

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started yet. But the eclipse does start and the

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shadow comes in from the top. So what that

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tells you is that it's not the earth doing it. Right. And you

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know what scientists call a selenium eclipse? They call it the

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impossible eclipse because it's impossible in this

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model, but it happens. Therefore it doesn't happen.

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00:27:37,267 --> 00:27:40,851
Also, a sphere casting a shadow

454
00:27:40,883 --> 00:27:44,531
onto another sphere. It comes in as an ellipse, it spreads

455
00:27:44,563 --> 00:27:48,211
out and then it leaves as an ellipse. A sphere

456
00:27:48,243 --> 00:27:51,659
onto another sphere doesn't come in with that perfect cookie cutter

457
00:27:51,707 --> 00:27:55,135
shape. So there you go. There.

458
00:27:56,355 --> 00:27:59,963
Awesome. Awesome. We, we went a little bit long. I wanted to let this,

459
00:28:00,059 --> 00:28:03,715
the topic unfold. I know you said you would normally take a little bit more,

460
00:28:03,755 --> 00:28:07,579
and for most podcasters who come on the show, 10 minutes really isn't enough.

461
00:28:07,627 --> 00:28:10,723
But what we're trying to do is just get a taste, get a feel for

462
00:28:10,739 --> 00:28:14,355
what you offer and what the show's about. One last

463
00:28:14,395 --> 00:28:17,867
time. We got votes coming in already. Go ahead.

464
00:28:17,971 --> 00:28:21,723
Everybody watching. We got 20 watching right now live. We can go

465
00:28:21,779 --> 00:28:25,411
to those scores, but we'll give you a second. You can scan that

466
00:28:25,443 --> 00:28:29,167
QR code on your screen using your phone or just open up another browser

467
00:28:29,191 --> 00:28:32,543
and type in mentee.com and type in that eight digit

468
00:28:32,599 --> 00:28:36,207
code. While you're doing it, you can go ahead and give

469
00:28:36,231 --> 00:28:39,943
Dave some feedback. How'd things go tonight? Because I would say for.

470
00:28:40,039 --> 00:28:43,567
We went about 15 minutes nonstop. You kept the

471
00:28:43,631 --> 00:28:46,315
show moving, you kept us entertained,

472
00:28:48,015 --> 00:28:51,759
you kept going. And I'll turn it over to Maria, too. Maria, what

473
00:28:51,767 --> 00:28:55,095
were some of your take backs from? Well, you kept me awake, which is

474
00:28:55,135 --> 00:28:58,935
huge. But no, I mean, I am a conspiracy

475
00:28:58,975 --> 00:29:01,723
theory nut. I will admit it. That is a guilty pleasure that I have. So

476
00:29:01,739 --> 00:29:05,547
I like, I love this stuff. I haven't decided

477
00:29:05,651 --> 00:29:09,475
how I feel about flat earth because again, I'm a conspiracy theory

478
00:29:09,515 --> 00:29:13,155
nut. But I can't 100% make it make sense in my mind. So I was,

479
00:29:13,195 --> 00:29:16,283
yeah, I was engaged the whole time. I thought it was a great show. And

480
00:29:16,299 --> 00:29:19,771
I like that you have the presentation and the visuals

481
00:29:19,883 --> 00:29:23,539
that, you know, you know, you're able to kind of give in the live

482
00:29:23,627 --> 00:29:27,319
broadcast, which really kind of helps with what, you know, what you're

483
00:29:27,367 --> 00:29:30,395
saying. And you're engaging. You're very engaging. So

484
00:29:31,055 --> 00:29:34,275
I enjoyed it. I thought it was great. Thanks.

485
00:29:34,895 --> 00:29:38,327
I want to just give you a little. You're a

486
00:29:38,351 --> 00:29:41,711
conspiracy theorist. But you know the difference between a conspiracy theorist and a

487
00:29:41,743 --> 00:29:45,287
fact? It's like three to six. Three to six months. Okay.

488
00:29:45,391 --> 00:29:49,087
Because all of the conspiracy theories are Becoming facts. I've been

489
00:29:49,111 --> 00:29:52,679
doing this for 20 years, and everything I've done has come true.

490
00:29:52,767 --> 00:29:56,057
Everything unfortunately, or, you know, some of them. Fortunately, but a lot of

491
00:29:56,081 --> 00:29:59,905
unfortunately. On my app, I have the frequently

492
00:29:59,945 --> 00:30:03,209
asked questions, Mark, and these are the frequently asked

493
00:30:03,257 --> 00:30:06,977
questions. And I encourage people, if you're interested

494
00:30:07,001 --> 00:30:10,801
in this, get the app and, you know, why the lie.

495
00:30:10,873 --> 00:30:14,705
Great section. Where does the sun go? What about gravity? What about Coriolis?

496
00:30:14,825 --> 00:30:18,353
This is hours and hours and days and days of

497
00:30:18,409 --> 00:30:22,081
information, but you can narrow it down and find it. And all of this is

498
00:30:22,113 --> 00:30:25,887
being hidden by Google. Right? There's a homeschool section, There's

499
00:30:25,911 --> 00:30:29,583
a. There's a matchmaker, there's a friend

500
00:30:29,639 --> 00:30:32,955
finder. There's all sorts of stuff on here. Social media,

501
00:30:33,375 --> 00:30:37,167
it does everything. And here's the challenge for the three bitcoin. So you don't

502
00:30:37,191 --> 00:30:40,927
waste my time and don't waste your own time every day. There's a featured video

503
00:30:40,991 --> 00:30:43,943
right here. And just watch it while you're having your coffee in the morning or

504
00:30:43,959 --> 00:30:47,599
your tea or do your breakfast. And for two weeks. At the end of that

505
00:30:47,647 --> 00:30:51,305
two weeks, check the FAQs if you have a question.

506
00:30:51,805 --> 00:30:55,653
And gotta warn you, if you do that, you're gonna end up

507
00:30:55,669 --> 00:30:58,065
being a Flat Earther, so prepare yourself.

508
00:31:00,245 --> 00:31:03,669
Awesome. Well, Dave, this is the part of the show. This is a podcast

509
00:31:03,717 --> 00:31:07,173
showcase we went through and let the audience

510
00:31:07,269 --> 00:31:11,013
judge and leave feedback for you. We have some great

511
00:31:11,069 --> 00:31:14,653
votes coming in already. Are you ready to see the scores?

512
00:31:14,829 --> 00:31:18,639
Yes. All right, here we go, everybody.

513
00:31:18,767 --> 00:31:22,303
Here is the Flat Earth podcast and looks, oh,

514
00:31:22,399 --> 00:31:25,515
9.1 overall, which is really strong.

515
00:31:26,095 --> 00:31:29,695
Most of your scores are in the nines, which. Anything. Anything between

516
00:31:29,775 --> 00:31:33,439
8 and, like, 9.5 is pretty, pretty good. That's. You're

517
00:31:33,487 --> 00:31:37,311
hitting all the targets and you can see the background of each of

518
00:31:37,343 --> 00:31:40,935
these. Gives you, like, a little plot, a little layout of where

519
00:31:40,975 --> 00:31:44,637
people were falling in. So a lot of people in the nines

520
00:31:44,741 --> 00:31:48,477
really felt the audio quality was great. You were doing great. You were

521
00:31:48,501 --> 00:31:52,037
an engaging host with an 8.8. People liked you. They

522
00:31:52,061 --> 00:31:55,661
resonated with you. The quality of the content was probably skewed the

523
00:31:55,693 --> 00:31:58,957
highest. Right? You skewed. You had four tens coming in

524
00:31:58,981 --> 00:32:02,173
there. Very nice. The content matches

525
00:32:02,229 --> 00:32:05,661
expectations. Yeah. You told us what you're going to give us, and you gave us

526
00:32:05,693 --> 00:32:09,237
that exactly. A lot of times people tell us they have a podcast and then

527
00:32:09,261 --> 00:32:12,737
they spend 10 minutes talking about their trip to the grocery store. So

528
00:32:12,881 --> 00:32:16,201
we want to reward that. That's something that's important that you get to the point.

529
00:32:16,233 --> 00:32:19,777
Like Bon Jovi says, don't bore us. Get to the chorus. Right?

530
00:32:19,881 --> 00:32:22,721
And you did that right off the bat. You were right in it. And the

531
00:32:22,753 --> 00:32:26,361
production quality, great. Skewing 9.0 over

532
00:32:26,433 --> 00:32:29,969
overall, 9.1 with all the criteria added

533
00:32:30,017 --> 00:32:33,657
in. That's just as feedback from the people watching right

534
00:32:33,681 --> 00:32:37,261
now, live. After seeing that, how do you feel,

535
00:32:37,373 --> 00:32:41,037
you know, seeing those scores? I. That's awesome. Thanks so much. You know,

536
00:32:41,061 --> 00:32:44,877
I've. I've done 1200 interviews since 2021. And by the way, Bon Jovi played

537
00:32:44,901 --> 00:32:48,629
at my high school senior prom. That's how old I am.

538
00:32:48,797 --> 00:32:52,453
That's awesome. I saw Bon Jovi with Cinderella

539
00:32:52,509 --> 00:32:56,325
in 1988 at the Civic arena in Pittsburgh. All right,

540
00:32:56,445 --> 00:32:59,573
there you go. That's all the best I can do. I. Not in a high

541
00:32:59,589 --> 00:33:03,085
school prom. Yeah. So let's go.

542
00:33:03,165 --> 00:33:06,523
Okay, good. No, go ahead, go ahead. So, yeah, so

543
00:33:06,579 --> 00:33:10,115
overall, everything was there. You're hitting on all cylinders. Those are

544
00:33:10,195 --> 00:33:14,027
good scores the whole way down. And this is a. This is a showcase to

545
00:33:14,131 --> 00:33:17,979
elevate and lift and give good feedback to. And the audience

546
00:33:18,027 --> 00:33:21,691
who was watching felt you were delivering on all those things. That's a

547
00:33:21,723 --> 00:33:25,347
very strong score. Let's go to the word cloud. This is the one that

548
00:33:25,371 --> 00:33:29,139
gets interesting. The one thing I want to say is, you

549
00:33:29,147 --> 00:33:32,769
know, the way to engage with the crowd is just to be authentic to yourself.

550
00:33:32,907 --> 00:33:36,725
I think we're all perfect souls. We're all literally angelic

551
00:33:36,765 --> 00:33:40,421
souls in us. And if you're authentic to yourself, authentic to your

552
00:33:40,453 --> 00:33:42,825
soul, everybody will love you.

553
00:33:44,165 --> 00:33:47,973
And let's go to the word cloud, which we

554
00:33:47,989 --> 00:33:51,221
don't censor. I have no idea. Some people figured out you can use

555
00:33:51,253 --> 00:33:54,605
emojis. Let's see. How did people go? We got

556
00:33:54,645 --> 00:33:58,341
35 responses popping in here. And the bigger that

557
00:33:58,373 --> 00:34:02,161
the words are in the word cloud, that's the more times they were used. So.

558
00:34:02,293 --> 00:34:05,769
So, Dave, you hit an interesting, engaging flat

559
00:34:05,817 --> 00:34:09,305
earth. People were referencing some of your, like, the 123 miles of

560
00:34:09,345 --> 00:34:12,937
visibility. I think that was with the mountain in the

561
00:34:12,961 --> 00:34:16,697
background. Maybe San Jacinto. Yeah,

562
00:34:16,801 --> 00:34:20,473
we have. I can't see because my eyes are. I got my night eyes on.

563
00:34:20,649 --> 00:34:24,405
You know, fun new sense, truthful, truth. Awesome.

564
00:34:25,025 --> 00:34:27,645
Everything I know is a lie. Somebody wrote that.

565
00:34:28,395 --> 00:34:31,931
Loud, flat world. Sun circles, earth,

566
00:34:32,003 --> 00:34:35,771
moon. Passionate. Passionate was a word that resonated there.

567
00:34:35,963 --> 00:34:39,803
The heat lamp. Somebody referenced the heat lamp that you mentioned, too. So the

568
00:34:39,819 --> 00:34:43,083
point of this is to get, like, just, you know, what were people feeling in

569
00:34:43,099 --> 00:34:46,775
the moment while you were speaking? And 35 responses here.

570
00:34:47,315 --> 00:34:50,691
What do you think about those ones? Anything resonate with you, Dave? I love it.

571
00:34:50,723 --> 00:34:54,267
I love the whole thing. I love the word cloud, the just putting it all

572
00:34:54,291 --> 00:34:58,059
together. It reminds me of the hive mind. Like if you have a

573
00:34:58,067 --> 00:35:01,915
jar of jelly beans and you have 500 people guess and you

574
00:35:01,955 --> 00:35:05,095
take the mean number, it's usually within one or two jelly beans.

575
00:35:06,195 --> 00:35:09,987
Very nice. Anything else you'd like to talk about before we wrap it up

576
00:35:10,011 --> 00:35:13,339
here tonight, Dave? I just want to tell people, don't believe anything I

577
00:35:13,387 --> 00:35:17,227
say. Go do your homework. Everything is being hidden from you.

578
00:35:17,291 --> 00:35:21,055
But you can find it all@flatteredave.com I want you to watch two

579
00:35:21,095 --> 00:35:24,855
things there. One, you're going to see a video called Old World

580
00:35:24,895 --> 00:35:28,511
Order. There's a nice big banner, old World Order.

581
00:35:28,663 --> 00:35:32,295
Turn off Netflix for a night or forever and watch Old

582
00:35:32,335 --> 00:35:35,471
World Order. It's going to change the way you're going to walk out in your

583
00:35:35,503 --> 00:35:38,127
hometown. You're going to look around, you're going to go, how did I miss this?

584
00:35:38,231 --> 00:35:41,663
How did I miss this? My whole life I never even thought about it, right?

585
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:45,351
You're going to find out that the reason you hated history in school is because

586
00:35:45,383 --> 00:35:49,125
it's all lies. All of it. Right? And then the other thing is on my

587
00:35:49,165 --> 00:35:52,501
website, you're going to see a button that says, big picture of me and it

588
00:35:52,533 --> 00:35:55,829
says crash course. There's a list of videos

589
00:35:55,877 --> 00:35:59,637
there that are being hidden from you. Google doesn't want you to see

590
00:35:59,661 --> 00:36:03,325
them. Watch the first five videos and I guarantee your

591
00:36:03,365 --> 00:36:05,265
life will be changed forever.

592
00:36:07,045 --> 00:36:10,621
Very nice. Flat earth dave.com. thank you so much, Flat Earth

593
00:36:10,653 --> 00:36:14,223
Dave. Maria, anything you'd like to plug, promote before we get out of

594
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,263
here? Not at all. I mean, just you can find me

595
00:36:17,319 --> 00:36:21,103
successfullychaotic.com or, yeah, Maria

596
00:36:21,159 --> 00:36:24,783
Daniels on Facebook. That's about it. Awesome. This has been the

597
00:36:24,799 --> 00:36:28,495
Rise and Outshine podcast showcase with the Flat Earth podcast with Flat

598
00:36:28,535 --> 00:36:32,175
Earth Dave. You can find more at Rise andoutshine.com or our

599
00:36:32,215 --> 00:36:34,183
podcast theater, PIDUTI.com P

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O-U-T-Y.com let's hear that theme music.

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We're asking the experts. We're all on a mission to

602
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rise. In the rankings and outshine the

603
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competition. Welcome to Rise and

604
00:36:48,085 --> 00:36:51,025
Outshine. Yeah,

605
00:36:51,725 --> 00:36:55,165
so much better, I'm telling you. Beautiful. Thank you.