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Carol Cox:
This is an excellent roundtable discussion

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all about leading with story in your talks,

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both in your content and in your delivery.

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On this episode of the Speaking Your Brand

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podcast. More and more women are making an

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impact by starting businesses, running for

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office and speaking up for what matters.

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With my background as a TV political

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analyst, entrepreneur and speaker, I

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interview and coach purpose driven women to

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shape their brands, grow their companies,

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and become recognized as influencers in

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their field. This is speaking your brand,

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your place to learn how to persuasively

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communicate your message to your audience.

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Diane Diaz:
Hi there and welcome to backstage with

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Speaking of Brand, or I should say, welcome

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back to backstage with Speaking of Brand.

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I'm Diane Diaz and I am lead speaking coach

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at Speaking Your Brand.

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I am thrilled to bring you today three of

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the women who attended our live in-person

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speaking retreat here in Orlando back in

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February. And during these three days, they

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went through trainings, group activities and

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filming their speaking engagements or

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speaking segments on our stage.

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And they all really, really delivered.

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And it was amazing to see how much they grew

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over the three days to the final delivery of

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those segments of their talks.

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They did amazing.

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So today we are going to chat with them

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about why they decided to attend the

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retreat, how they used storytelling in their

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talks using the stage and body movement,

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which is part of active storytelling and

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engaging storytelling. And then what it was

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like to practice their talks and get filmed.

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So let me introduce you to these wonderful

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women that we have here today.

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So we have Darcy Foster, Danny Einsohn, and

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Terri Reuter.

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I think I'm saying that correctly, I hope

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so. Darci is an interior designer and a

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women's workshop facilitator for women who

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are making big life shifts, both

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professionally and personally.

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Dani is a certified women's empowerment Life

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coach who works with women to help them

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pursue their dreams and goals, and Teri is

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an executive coach, wellbeing counselor, and

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learning experience facilitator, and a

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former Jazzercise instructor, which is fun.

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So we'll talk a little bit about that later.

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Um, so let me get started first with you,

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Teri. Uh, we'll start by just talking about

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why you decided to attend the in-person

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retreat in February. What brought you to

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that decision, and what were you hoping to

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get from that?

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Teri Reuter:
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I really wanted to do something in 2024 that

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was going to be uncomfortable for me.

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development, especially being a coach, I

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feel like I have to walk the walk.

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I try to do something to pursue that.

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And I had done coaching with you and Carol a

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couple of years ago, and then this year I

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was looking for something and I wanted to,

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um, challenge myself.

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Carol and you had talked about the idea of

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how many women's voices we have in our

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lives. And I realized as a Jazzercise

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instructor, current, although actually, I

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found that my music library didn't have that

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many female artists.

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women who've written fiction that I've read,

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a lot of the business books weren't women,

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and I work primarily with men, and I really

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wanted to do something that I was going to

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be surrounded with women's voices.

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maybe helpful to get to learn from them and

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to feel good about something I was

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uncomfortable with and everyone delivered in

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such an amazing way.

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everybody else and hearing their stories.

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uncomfortable. So thank you to all of you.

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Diane Diaz:
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I love that idea of making yourself

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uncomfortable, getting outside your comfort

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zone and trying something that's new and

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different. And I think you probably got that

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too, with the improv that we did.

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outside my comfort zone every time I do it,

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because I'm not the biggest fan, but so

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thank you for sharing that.

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who's watching this live.

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LinkedIn, go ahead and pop your questions

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there into the comments, and we'll try to

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today, let us know.

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was interesting, what we worked on.

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but then you join the Thought Leader Academy

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and you were all in.

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What led that to that decision for you to

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come to the retreat? And what was your

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experience like at the retreat?

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Darci Foshay:
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reason for coming is all about like my

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personal enrichment.

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outside of your comfort zone.

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and thriving, especially in midlife.

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Leader Academy was just wonderful.

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I loved every minute of it, and so it was a

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natural progression for me to go to the

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retreat, and I wanted to be in person

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because the Thought Leader Academy was via

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zoom, and I loved it.

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women that are going through similar

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situations that I'm going through.

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personal enrichment.

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I just enjoyed every single minute of it.

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Enjoyed everybody that I met.

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We've now made this text ring called The

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Sisterhood, and I just feel so lucky, lucky

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to have been involved in that.

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Diane Diaz:
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in-person component because yes, we do a lot

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you know, since the pandemic, we've all

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become very virtual.

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in person and make those human connections,

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which as speakers, is why we're doing these

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speaking engagements on stages, in person,

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in front of people live, because there's

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definitely a deeper connection that can be

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made when you're in person and you can see

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facial expressions, you can react to what

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it's a it's a really good point.

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really powerful story at our retreat.

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everybody. It was I mean, it was incredibly

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powerful and meaningful.

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that in a bit. But what led to your decision

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to attend the retreat and what were you

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Dani Einsohn:
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coaching, um, in this third third of my

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life. Uh, you know, kind of at a late date.

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business coach and he heard my story and he

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said, you have to tell this story.

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Go out there and tell your story.

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women's networking groups here locally where

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I got to tell the story, and I connected so

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much with the audience, or they connected

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with me. And, um, it was such a powerful

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experience to be seen, to be heard, to have

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them recognize themselves in my story.

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coach after one of these experiences, and I

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said, I think I want to do this every day

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for the rest of my life.

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how are you going to make that happen?

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about the retreat, which was just coming up,

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and I already had the basis of the talk

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down. Um, but I wanted to polish it.

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an intimate, um, a little bit, there's some

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graphic stuff in there, a little bit.

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a way that doesn't put people off, but helps

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women identify and connect.

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amazing women, uh, and to have that support

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and camaraderie and learning together and

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having fun together and being wackadoodle

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crazy with each other.

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Courtesy of you.

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got so much out of it besides just learning

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how to polish my talk.

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Diane Diaz:
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resemble that remark.

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I said yes, crazy.

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Yes. Wackadoodle.

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of the stories are fun, but some of the

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stories are very serious.

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activities that break up all of that, you

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know, hard work and diving deep into those

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uncomfortable stories and the vulnerability.

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you know, you're telling that story with a

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vulnerable component to it.

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did you ever have what we call a

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vulnerability hangover from telling that

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story? Did you ever think maybe the next day

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that ever come up?

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Dani Einsohn:
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Diane Diaz:
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story, number one, it takes me back and I

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have to, you know, repeat the history that

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I'm talking about and the feelings that I

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felt. Um, but I also am wondering, you know,

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dismay or some other kind of discomfort, and

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uncomfortable, I want them to be inspired.

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like, oh, I shouldn't have said that.

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Oh, is this too much?

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Which is kind of what happened.

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Diane Diaz:
Yeah, it is a really great point.

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Um, but I will say that from the segment of

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your talk that you gave, you did a really

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great job of also, while it's a heavy topic,

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what you were talking about with that

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particular story, you did a great job of

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integrating little moments of humor.

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And I don't mean that in a to make light of

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what the situation that you were sharing,

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but little humorous things that you injected

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into it just to sort of break the tension,

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which was extremely effective.

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So good job on you for the way that you

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managed that, because I think it it let the

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audience know that you are okay.

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So if we know that you're okay, then we're

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okay hearing the story because we know

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you're you're okay now.

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So I think it accomplished that.

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So well done now.

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So um, let's talk a little bit about body

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movement using the stage.

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And so during the practice sessions, uh, you

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know, when we first everybody started, first

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started practicing, we noticed everybody's

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kind of stuck in the same spot or maybe

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moving around too much because they weren't

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quite sure what to do.

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So, um, Terry, maybe you can speak to how it

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felt trying to incorporate maybe a new way

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of moving that you hadn't tried before or

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just moving in general.

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What did that feel like as you were

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practicing? Did it feel comfortable?

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Uncomfortable? Strange?

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What was that like?

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Teri Reuter:
Uncomfortable. But, you know, I think what I

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got from it is that what we're looking for

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is movement with intention.

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So it's not just movement as many times as

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you ask participants or suggested that we

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try movements, you also suggested other

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people quiet those movements.

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And I think it seemed to be dependent on on

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two things. One, the personality of the

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person. So some people were quieter in their

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bodies, and that suited really well.

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And other people needed to have more

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movement. And so for myself, I was guided to

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block out various pieces, which I did and

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felt uncomfortable. When I was able to watch

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the recording, I realized that I had some

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natural movements that the next time I'm

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actually going to block those movements,

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which it showed me that the some of the

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intended movements looked a lot more natural

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than they felt, and some of the natural

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movements looked like I was fidgeting.

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And so that was a really interesting.

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At one point I referenced rowing, like

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rowing, and in the video I just sort of went

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like this, but you couldn't tell.

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And other points where I was instructed.

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I had a much more specific movement.

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So that that was interesting, that the plan

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actually looks more natural.

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So I continue with that.

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Diane Diaz:
That's so interesting.

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And I think I think that's where the video

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comes in handy, because to everybody

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watching this and listening later on the

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podcast, also, we had all the attendees

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record themselves on their phones during the

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practice sessions too, so they could even go

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back and watch those to get a little bit

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more comfortable with where it might, like

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Terry just said, where it might make sense

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to put in intentional movements versus maybe

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quieting movements where it made sense,

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maybe in a quieter part of the story.

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And so, you know, all of the feedback given

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was with that in mind.

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And so I think that's where the video does

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help, you know, you to see where it makes

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the most sense. And then hopefully over time

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and practice, all the movements just become

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natural. And they don't feel like they're

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being kind of wedged in or something that

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you're not naturally doing or comfortable

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with.

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Teri Reuter:
Um, I think it's also trust in who you're

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watching because you can't know what your

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impact is on a listener when you're the

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deliverer. And so really, I felt like we all

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just trusted and we did what you said and

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that. So Darcy and Danny, you would know

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just to lean into that.

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It sort of relieves you.

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So having someone to practice with is super

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helpful.

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Diane Diaz:
That is such a great, such a great point.

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And so to that point about stage movement

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and practice, I'll, I'll ask you, Darcy, how

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did it feel to do the improv exercises to

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get you kind of more comfortable with moving

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around, get you out of your out of your

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head, out of your body and feeling a little

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bit more free.

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What was that like?

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Darci Foshay:
I loved it, um, I loved it.

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I was so surprised that I did love it, but

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I, like Terry was saying, I think that we

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all just felt so comfortable with each other

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immediately that I just felt like, all

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right, whatever is going to come to mind,

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I'm just going to do it, say it, act it out.

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Um, now, when I was on stage, I felt like it

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surprising how much you have to think about

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what your movement is going to be.

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I was surprised at that.

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How? Like.

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All right. I'm. I'm working on my speech.

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I'm delivering my speech.

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Now. I got to think about how I'm going to

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move. And so sometimes it just fell a little

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disconnected. Um, but the improv was so

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good. Um, because it got you out of your

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comfort zone, got you to say and do things

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that you wouldn't normally do.

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And dancing, you know, just dancing to fun

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music. Like whenever you girls would just

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throw the music on, we'd have to get up and

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dance, you know, and it was just.

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And you look over at other people and you

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go, if they're doing it, I'm going to do it.

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You know, I love it.

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I thought the improv was hysterical.

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And when I came home and told my husband

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about it, he's like, he just rolled his

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eyes.

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Diane Diaz:
Well, interestingly, um, so I'm glad you

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enjoyed it first of all.

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Now I will say and carols.

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Carols here. I saw her in the comments so

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she knows she and I have a love hate

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relationship with improv, but what we do

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love about it is that it does.

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It does get you out of your head, and it

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does make you better able to think on your

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feet because you that is going to come up

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when you're speaking right.

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And then it makes the thinking on your feet

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feel more natural, so that it doesn't feel

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so much like you're thinking about it,

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because it just sort of comes to you now.

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So, Darcy, you because you used props, you

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had printed out props for the tarot cards

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that were part of the segment of your talk

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that you were filming. And so there was

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movement involved in going to get those how

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to show them. And so I think maybe doing

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improv and of course, practicing that really

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helped you because that when you got to the

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filming portion, it was seamless and smooth.

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Oh, it worked out.

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It worked out so beautifully.

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So, yes.

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So I do think that the improv, it helps with

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things like that, where you need to know how

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to move around on the stage in a way, like

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Terry was saying, that's intentional.

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And that doesn't take away from what you're

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talking about. So so kudos to you for loving

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improv. I still do not, but but I do know

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the value of it to everybody.

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Um, let's talk a little bit about practicing

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then. And then we'll also talk about what it

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was like getting filmed.

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So. You know, Carol and I are looking at

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this from the outside, as you know, the

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speaking coaches. And we're seeing you on

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day one and then all the way through to day

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three. And so we can see huge

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transformations in everybody.

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So many things about how you deliver your

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talk comfort level using the stage, just

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just confidence all of it.

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But I'm curious.

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And so we'll go to you, Danny.

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How did those practice sessions feel.

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And also because for you, you're repeating

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that same story over and over again.

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But how how did the practice sessions feel

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for you?

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Dani Einsohn:
I. They felt good.

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The first one was so awkward because it was

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almost like we were introducing ourselves to

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each other. In fact, that was the exercise,

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right? Tell us your story.

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So. And then we had some time to craft it a

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little bit and some time to talk to you or

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to Carol. And I think that really helped me

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because I had the whole thing written.

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And of course, I wasn't working from a

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script. I was inhabiting it.

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I don't know how else to put it.

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It was just becoming part of me.

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I wrote the words, but seeing the words came

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from my heart, from my soul.

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Um, but there were things that I knew I had

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to tweak, and I got to talk to Carol.

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And so then getting up and doing it over and

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over again, um, each time it was easier and

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easier. I did not like filming it, though.

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I, I hated it, made me so nervous, even with

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my own camera.

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Yeah.

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Diane Diaz:
To really?

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And why? I'm curious.

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Why do you think that is?

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Um.

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Dani Einsohn:
Just my own feelings about, you know, how I

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would look, how I would sound.

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Diane Diaz:
Yes, yes.

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And so I will say I'm glad you mentioned

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that, Danny, because.

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We can have all the confidence in the world

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and the words that we are saying.

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But I think, and this isn't just you, this

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is all almost all of us.

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I don't know a woman on earth that isn't

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being filmed. And then thinking, never mind

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the message, like, how am I going to look?

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What do I sound like?

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None of us like to hear the sound of our own

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voice. But what I can say too, is that over

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time, I used to hate watching myself on

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video or listening to myself.

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Like if I go back and listen to a podcast

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that I'm on, I just. I used to hate it.

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But over time that goes away and we become

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more. I have become more interested in how

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did my message come across and less

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thoughtful about, like, what did I look

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like? What did I sound like? But it's so

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normal to feel that way so I can completely.

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I was just curious, you know why?

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Because of course, I don't think about it as

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much now, but I can see where that would be

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the case. And also, you're in a small group.

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It's not. It's not like you're in front of

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500 people. You're in a small group and all

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eyes, including the camera, are on you.

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Yes.

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Dani Einsohn:
And as far as the small group went, I felt

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totally safe with the other.

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Diane Diaz:
Are.

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Dani Einsohn:
I really, really did.

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And that happened very early, like within

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the first day. Um, there was that that sense

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of we are in this together.

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We are here for each other.

526
00:21:48,180 --> 00:21:53,580
And so every time I got up, I was not afraid

527
00:21:53,580 --> 00:21:56,040
of the audience. I was just afraid of me.

528
00:21:59,670 --> 00:22:01,110
Diane Diaz:
You know, that's so interesting.

529
00:22:01,110 --> 00:22:02,610
Maybe that is our biggest.

530
00:22:02,610 --> 00:22:04,770
Our biggest nemesis is ourselves.

531
00:22:04,770 --> 00:22:06,750
Dani Einsohn:
And that's kind of what my talk was about

532
00:22:06,750 --> 00:22:08,310
also. Yeah.

533
00:22:08,340 --> 00:22:09,390
Yes.

534
00:22:09,390 --> 00:22:11,520
Diane Diaz:
Interestingly, I think it all comes full

535
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:12,030
circle.

536
00:22:12,030 --> 00:22:13,260
Dani Einsohn:
Thing, you know.

537
00:22:13,260 --> 00:22:14,940
Diane Diaz:
Yes, yes.

538
00:22:14,940 --> 00:22:17,520
Well, and so we touched a little bit on the

539
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:18,720
idea of getting feedback.

540
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:22,140
And so each of you throughout the three days

541
00:22:22,140 --> 00:22:24,120
and just the two days of practice, got

542
00:22:24,120 --> 00:22:26,280
feedback on the delivery of your talk,

543
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:27,900
feedback on a variety of things, stage

544
00:22:27,900 --> 00:22:30,420
movement, saying things, or maybe say it

545
00:22:30,420 --> 00:22:31,830
this way, maybe that would be better.

546
00:22:31,830 --> 00:22:33,720
Maybe shorten this part, maybe focus more

547
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:37,230
here. So Terry, how did it feel for you?

548
00:22:37,230 --> 00:22:38,310
Because you speak a lot.

549
00:22:38,340 --> 00:22:40,680
You do already do a lot of training

550
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,140
workshops, all sorts of speaking.

551
00:22:43,140 --> 00:22:46,050
How did it feel to get that feedback during

552
00:22:46,050 --> 00:22:48,510
the practice sessions and then incorporate

553
00:22:48,510 --> 00:22:51,660
it sometimes on the fly, but also into your

554
00:22:51,660 --> 00:22:53,220
final delivery that was filmed?

555
00:22:53,220 --> 00:22:54,780
How did what was that like?

556
00:22:55,570 --> 00:22:57,250
Teri Reuter:
Oh, it was fantastic.

557
00:22:57,250 --> 00:22:59,830
I think because of the kind of work I do,

558
00:22:59,830 --> 00:23:03,130
I'm often my role is to focus on someone

559
00:23:03,130 --> 00:23:07,360
else, to really lean in, and I lose myself

560
00:23:07,360 --> 00:23:08,800
in what my clients are doing.

561
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,260
I help people prepare sometimes for

562
00:23:11,260 --> 00:23:14,080
presentations they're making, and at first

563
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,180
it was weird to have someone focus on me.

564
00:23:16,180 --> 00:23:19,780
That's not usually my role, and it was

565
00:23:19,780 --> 00:23:23,380
really nice to hear, you know, both the

566
00:23:23,380 --> 00:23:25,240
praise of things that were working, but also

567
00:23:25,270 --> 00:23:27,010
the redirection of things that could be

568
00:23:27,010 --> 00:23:28,120
different or better.

569
00:23:28,120 --> 00:23:32,380
And I, I really I was really appreciative of

570
00:23:32,380 --> 00:23:34,120
every little piece that I got so that you

571
00:23:34,120 --> 00:23:35,770
could try out something different.

572
00:23:35,770 --> 00:23:38,110
And, and I think it was and it was

573
00:23:38,110 --> 00:23:40,390
interesting too, because we all got to do

574
00:23:40,390 --> 00:23:42,640
it, not in a vacuum with ourselves, but we

575
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,160
got to hear the feedback that each of us,

576
00:23:45,190 --> 00:23:47,200
that that were for each of us.

577
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,140
And I think that while maybe we were saying

578
00:23:50,140 --> 00:23:52,510
something to Darcy, you can look at yourself

579
00:23:52,510 --> 00:23:54,820
and say, oh, I could incorporate that too.

580
00:23:54,820 --> 00:23:57,520
Or, you know, so it was just such a

581
00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,170
multidimensional experience.

582
00:23:59,170 --> 00:24:03,490
I think the environment of the feedback was

583
00:24:03,490 --> 00:24:04,930
exactly what you would hope.

584
00:24:04,930 --> 00:24:06,790
You know that expression, all feedback is a

585
00:24:06,790 --> 00:24:08,200
gift. It really felt like that the whole

586
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:09,310
time we were together.

587
00:24:09,310 --> 00:24:12,160
Diane Diaz:
Oh, I'm so thrilled to hear that because, you

588
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,410
know, I do love, of course, you know, Carol

589
00:24:14,410 --> 00:24:16,090
and I are giving feedback, but I love that

590
00:24:16,090 --> 00:24:18,670
the other women feel comfortable giving

591
00:24:18,670 --> 00:24:21,580
feedback as well to whoever's practicing,

592
00:24:21,580 --> 00:24:23,440
because everybody's receiving it a little

593
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,570
bit differently. Everybody keys in on

594
00:24:25,570 --> 00:24:27,160
something different based on whatever, you

595
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:28,810
know, maybe what they speak about, what

596
00:24:28,810 --> 00:24:30,520
their industry is or what their experience

597
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,950
is. And so all of the feedback that

598
00:24:32,950 --> 00:24:35,860
everybody gave was so good.

599
00:24:35,860 --> 00:24:39,400
I felt and a number of you kind of worked on

600
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,400
your frameworks kind of on the fly like,

601
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,260
well, I don't have a framework like help me,

602
00:24:44,260 --> 00:24:45,280
help me with this framework.

603
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,070
And so during during the practice time and

604
00:24:48,070 --> 00:24:50,680
the working on your segments time, some of

605
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,570
us like I pulled out my laptop, let's pull

606
00:24:52,570 --> 00:24:54,580
up, you know, let's try look for a word for

607
00:24:54,580 --> 00:24:57,730
this or you know, we'd go around the room

608
00:24:57,730 --> 00:24:58,780
and just give feedback.

609
00:24:58,780 --> 00:25:01,150
And then I think other women were giving

610
00:25:01,150 --> 00:25:02,950
each other feedback and working together on

611
00:25:02,950 --> 00:25:07,090
things. So it was I agree, like the feedback

612
00:25:07,090 --> 00:25:10,240
in a setting like that, it all is a gift,

613
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,820
right? Because it's really when we got to

614
00:25:12,820 --> 00:25:15,520
the filming day, which we'll talk about now,

615
00:25:15,700 --> 00:25:19,300
the I wish that we had like a full day

616
00:25:19,300 --> 00:25:21,100
filming of day one and then a full day

617
00:25:21,100 --> 00:25:23,380
filming of day three, just to see Side by

618
00:25:23,380 --> 00:25:28,000
Side the difference, because in my brain,

619
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,120
when I think about it, it always blows me

620
00:25:31,120 --> 00:25:34,450
away. I don't know if I could make that much

621
00:25:34,450 --> 00:25:38,440
improvement, but you guys, not that you were

622
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,650
bad on day one, but just the the polish that

623
00:25:41,650 --> 00:25:44,110
you had on day three was just mind blowing

624
00:25:44,110 --> 00:25:47,530
because it's just the delivery was

625
00:25:47,530 --> 00:25:50,530
incredible. The stories were incredible, the

626
00:25:50,530 --> 00:25:52,210
impact was incredible.

627
00:25:52,210 --> 00:25:55,810
It was just a beautiful everybody's delivery

628
00:25:55,810 --> 00:25:57,160
was beautiful.

629
00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,980
So Danny, maybe you could talk a little bit.

630
00:25:59,980 --> 00:26:01,120
Well you talked a little bit about the

631
00:26:01,120 --> 00:26:03,040
filming being uncomfortable but.

632
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,440
What did it feel like once you finished your

633
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,470
filming? How did you feel once you were done

634
00:26:09,470 --> 00:26:09,830
with that?

635
00:26:09,860 --> 00:26:13,220
Dani Einsohn:
Um, I was relieved that that was over.

636
00:26:13,220 --> 00:26:16,070
It had been a lot of, you know, is it going

637
00:26:16,070 --> 00:26:17,990
to be okay? Am I going to be okay?

638
00:26:17,990 --> 00:26:20,240
And then as I'm walking off the stage, I'm

639
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,250
like, damn, I missed.

640
00:26:22,250 --> 00:26:25,670
I forgot to say, I didn't say that.

641
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,140
So it was I mean, it was fine when it was

642
00:26:30,140 --> 00:26:33,320
happening. Like it wasn't obtrusive in any

643
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:37,850
way. Like, I, I enjoyed the the little zing

644
00:26:37,850 --> 00:26:39,140
of adrenaline.

645
00:26:40,190 --> 00:26:43,100
Um, and I think that it helped.

646
00:26:43,740 --> 00:26:46,410
It helped me enjoy the experience more

647
00:26:46,410 --> 00:26:49,020
because I felt like I was really performing.

648
00:26:49,020 --> 00:26:52,410
And I think for many of us, yes, we learned

649
00:26:52,410 --> 00:26:55,140
that speaking is performing and.

650
00:26:56,830 --> 00:26:58,600
Diane Diaz:
Absolutely. Darcy.

651
00:26:58,600 --> 00:26:59,710
For you.

652
00:26:59,740 --> 00:27:02,200
You. Of course, I mentioned that you used

653
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:07,540
props and, you know, that can cause

654
00:27:07,540 --> 00:27:09,190
sometimes discomfort.

655
00:27:09,190 --> 00:27:11,380
You seemed totally natural at it.

656
00:27:11,380 --> 00:27:14,650
So how was your filming experience?

657
00:27:14,650 --> 00:27:15,820
What was that like?

658
00:27:15,820 --> 00:27:17,950
How did you did you have any nerves?

659
00:27:17,950 --> 00:27:20,170
If you did, how did you handle those?

660
00:27:20,740 --> 00:27:23,890
Darci Foshay:
Well, it's so funny that when you when we

661
00:27:23,890 --> 00:27:25,960
were talking earlier, I was thinking about

662
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,800
how, um, there is a lot of improvement from

663
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,710
the first day to the last, but in my

664
00:27:32,710 --> 00:27:36,100
situation, I have to get over the fact that

665
00:27:36,100 --> 00:27:39,610
the first time I deliver my my talk, I'm

666
00:27:39,610 --> 00:27:42,670
looking for that shock value.

667
00:27:42,670 --> 00:27:46,960
And I'm looking for that laughter because, I

668
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,620
mean, my my talk has a specific meaning to

669
00:27:50,620 --> 00:27:54,100
encourage women to embrace change, but it is

670
00:27:54,100 --> 00:27:56,950
the whole talk is taking stories from

671
00:27:56,950 --> 00:28:00,610
ordinary life and and mixing it up and

672
00:28:00,610 --> 00:28:02,770
turning around, turning it around on its

673
00:28:02,770 --> 00:28:05,200
head and making it fun and funny.

674
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,780
So the first time that I did it, of course

675
00:28:07,780 --> 00:28:09,340
no one knows what you're going to say.

676
00:28:09,340 --> 00:28:11,050
So it is fun and funny.

677
00:28:11,050 --> 00:28:13,570
And then after you do it twice a day for

678
00:28:13,570 --> 00:28:16,330
three days on that third day, when it comes

679
00:28:16,330 --> 00:28:19,420
to filming, I have to try to remind myself

680
00:28:19,420 --> 00:28:21,340
that they're not going to think it's as

681
00:28:21,340 --> 00:28:23,860
funny when they they've heard it for the

682
00:28:23,860 --> 00:28:25,750
eighth time, you know?

683
00:28:25,750 --> 00:28:26,350
Yeah.

684
00:28:26,830 --> 00:28:29,020
Teri Reuter:
You were funny on the eighth time to Darcy.

685
00:28:29,050 --> 00:28:29,560
Thank you.

686
00:28:29,950 --> 00:28:31,510
Dani Einsohn:
Every minute Darcy.

687
00:28:31,750 --> 00:28:33,880
Diane Diaz:
Kitten chops never gets old.

688
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:34,990
Darci Foshay:
Never gets old.

689
00:28:34,990 --> 00:28:38,620
No she doesn't, but I think that I have to

690
00:28:38,620 --> 00:28:42,250
remember that that it is a performance.

691
00:28:42,250 --> 00:28:45,790
And you do have to, um, bring up that

692
00:28:45,790 --> 00:28:49,030
excitement and enthusiasm to tell that story

693
00:28:49,030 --> 00:28:50,890
again, even though, you know, people have

694
00:28:50,890 --> 00:28:53,050
heard it several times, like, you still have

695
00:28:53,050 --> 00:28:55,870
to say it in a really fresh way so that

696
00:28:55,870 --> 00:28:58,450
people really enjoy it, because I really

697
00:28:58,450 --> 00:29:01,360
enjoy telling it, and I don't want to look

698
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,550
at the audience and think that they're not

699
00:29:03,550 --> 00:29:06,280
enjoying it, you know, as much as they could

700
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:07,810
be because they'd already heard it or

701
00:29:07,810 --> 00:29:10,060
whatever. Yes. So I think that just takes

702
00:29:10,060 --> 00:29:13,300
practice. And we got a lot of practice.

703
00:29:13,300 --> 00:29:16,000
And, you know, I just again, I just loved

704
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:17,470
every single minute of it.

705
00:29:17,710 --> 00:29:18,730
Diane Diaz:
Good, good.

706
00:29:18,730 --> 00:29:20,650
I'm so glad to hear that. And so if you like

707
00:29:20,650 --> 00:29:22,600
to get laughs, you might need to do a stand

708
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,030
up comedy set because then you will get the

709
00:29:25,030 --> 00:29:26,560
laughs you were looking for.

710
00:29:26,980 --> 00:29:29,500
Well, so much more fun than improv.

711
00:29:29,500 --> 00:29:30,790
So much more fun.

712
00:29:31,570 --> 00:29:34,600
Darci Foshay:
I'm thinking maybe I might I might want to do

713
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,010
it. I have a little inner.

714
00:29:36,010 --> 00:29:39,280
It's either a little Lucille Ball or Rodney

715
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,160
Dangerfield. I don't know what it is, but I

716
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:42,370
have.

717
00:29:42,370 --> 00:29:42,760
Dani Einsohn:
A little.

718
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:48,310
Diane Diaz:
Dangerfield. Definitely do that.

719
00:29:48,310 --> 00:29:52,330
Well, okay, so, um, Terry, now you led us

720
00:29:52,330 --> 00:29:56,440
through a really fun dance segment in your

721
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,920
talk, which I loved, and I, I can really see

722
00:29:59,920 --> 00:30:04,210
you doing that talk and that bit with the

723
00:30:04,210 --> 00:30:07,120
dance part in a large group, because imagine

724
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,550
a huge audience standing up and doing that

725
00:30:09,550 --> 00:30:13,000
would be so incredibly powerful.

726
00:30:13,330 --> 00:30:17,620
Um, how do you feel about your confidence in

727
00:30:17,620 --> 00:30:20,080
leading an audience in an exercise like

728
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,660
that? Maybe a big audience and getting them

729
00:30:22,660 --> 00:30:24,310
involved and really getting them into the

730
00:30:24,310 --> 00:30:25,210
message?

731
00:30:25,780 --> 00:30:28,750
Teri Reuter:
Um, well, I will say I feel very comfortable.

732
00:30:28,750 --> 00:30:30,190
I've done that before.

733
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:35,800
Uh, in so speaking, I do sometimes as a

734
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,530
speech, like what we worked on, but speaking

735
00:30:38,530 --> 00:30:40,750
in front of groups, I do on a very regular

736
00:30:40,750 --> 00:30:43,210
basis, and sometimes people are surprised

737
00:30:43,210 --> 00:30:46,300
who I can get up to move.

738
00:30:46,300 --> 00:30:49,690
But so far I've never had an audience, uh,

739
00:30:49,690 --> 00:30:51,190
that has not gotten up.

740
00:30:51,190 --> 00:30:52,930
I think the most reluctant.

741
00:30:52,930 --> 00:30:55,240
I was in Dallas last week, and I worked with

742
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,850
a group of about 40 people over two days

743
00:30:57,850 --> 00:31:00,850
that were in their late 20s, early 30s.

744
00:31:00,850 --> 00:31:04,000
It's the only group that I work with that I

745
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,280
think of as like sort of my kids.

746
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,950
Everybody else is more sort of my cohort

747
00:31:08,950 --> 00:31:12,460
anyway. They were the most reluctant, but I

748
00:31:12,460 --> 00:31:14,710
got them. I have a couple of different

749
00:31:14,710 --> 00:31:17,470
things we do a thing that I bring out the

750
00:31:17,470 --> 00:31:22,660
song bust a move to, and um, so we use a

751
00:31:22,660 --> 00:31:27,370
particular personality, uh, assessment and

752
00:31:27,370 --> 00:31:30,970
to help them remember the, the quadrants of

753
00:31:30,970 --> 00:31:33,880
the assessment, we do a dance and, uh, the

754
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,250
first go round, they were like, we came back

755
00:31:36,250 --> 00:31:38,140
after the second break and somebody actually

756
00:31:38,140 --> 00:31:39,700
said, can we dance again?

757
00:31:39,700 --> 00:31:40,240
Oh.

758
00:31:41,020 --> 00:31:42,670
Diane Diaz:
That's a rousing endorsement.

759
00:31:42,940 --> 00:31:46,150
Teri Reuter:
But I have to say, people, you know, we spend

760
00:31:46,150 --> 00:31:48,460
more time at work than we do doing anything

761
00:31:48,460 --> 00:31:51,580
else. And so if you can just bring a little

762
00:31:51,580 --> 00:31:54,010
bit of a lightness to work, I think people

763
00:31:54,010 --> 00:31:55,450
welcome it. So.

764
00:31:55,830 --> 00:31:58,860
I do feel really comfortable doing that, but

765
00:31:58,860 --> 00:32:00,930
I think it's a little bit like what Danny

766
00:32:00,930 --> 00:32:02,550
said or what you were saying to Danny about

767
00:32:02,550 --> 00:32:04,380
the filming. It's something you have to get

768
00:32:04,380 --> 00:32:06,180
used to. It's practice.

769
00:32:06,180 --> 00:32:07,680
I mean, I've been doing this for 20

770
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,140
something years and incorporating movement,

771
00:32:10,140 --> 00:32:12,960
and so now I don't care if people think it's

772
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,380
silly. Where before I might have wondered,

773
00:32:16,890 --> 00:32:20,040
uh, so it's an invitation to people to join

774
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:21,180
me if they'd like.

775
00:32:21,180 --> 00:32:23,070
Diane Diaz:
Yeah. No, it's a really good point, because I

776
00:32:23,070 --> 00:32:25,530
think if you do anything enough times, it's

777
00:32:25,530 --> 00:32:26,760
going to start to feel natural and

778
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,430
comfortable. And so really and that's why

779
00:32:29,430 --> 00:32:31,320
the practice that we did at the retreat,

780
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,170
right, was so important is to just repeat it

781
00:32:34,170 --> 00:32:36,060
and repeat it so that it starts to feel more

782
00:32:36,060 --> 00:32:39,000
comfortable. So on filming day, everybody

783
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,130
seemed natural that everybody seemed like

784
00:32:41,130 --> 00:32:42,690
they had been giving this talk for a long

785
00:32:42,690 --> 00:32:45,660
time. The nobody looked uncomfortable,

786
00:32:45,660 --> 00:32:46,890
nobody looked like they didn't have

787
00:32:46,890 --> 00:32:48,600
confidence. So even if they were faking the

788
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,240
confidence, it came through and it felt

789
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,630
real. And so everybody I thought just really

790
00:32:54,630 --> 00:32:55,890
knocked it out of the park.

791
00:32:55,890 --> 00:32:58,350
So kudos to to you three.

792
00:32:58,350 --> 00:33:00,030
But to everybody at the retreat for

793
00:33:00,030 --> 00:33:02,490
delivering, you know, for growing so much

794
00:33:02,490 --> 00:33:04,620
and just building that confidence and

795
00:33:04,620 --> 00:33:06,240
learning how to use the stage and telling

796
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,070
stories and making that audience engagement.

797
00:33:08,070 --> 00:33:11,400
It was beautiful, such a wonder to behold.

798
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,650
I love the retreat so much.

799
00:33:13,650 --> 00:33:16,530
So it was really just incredible watching

800
00:33:16,530 --> 00:33:17,610
everybody grow.

801
00:33:17,610 --> 00:33:20,670
And so now I want to know what is next.

802
00:33:20,670 --> 00:33:22,860
So I'll start with you, Darcy, why don't you

803
00:33:22,860 --> 00:33:25,650
tell us what you're speaking topics are

804
00:33:25,650 --> 00:33:28,110
about, and then tell us what your plans are

805
00:33:28,110 --> 00:33:30,600
for your next speaking endeavors.

806
00:33:31,770 --> 00:33:34,260
Darci Foshay:
Oh, boy. You know, I do have to say, as soon

807
00:33:34,260 --> 00:33:37,920
as I got home from the the retreat, I wrote

808
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,530
down a little snippet of what everybody had

809
00:33:40,530 --> 00:33:43,950
talked about in their in their speech and

810
00:33:43,950 --> 00:33:48,030
then like little fun things that we had, you

811
00:33:48,030 --> 00:33:50,580
know, chatted about in between, you know,

812
00:33:50,580 --> 00:33:52,230
just getting to know each other a little bit

813
00:33:52,230 --> 00:33:54,840
more. And I think I sent it out to everybody

814
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:56,370
and just said, you know, we could make a

815
00:33:56,370 --> 00:33:58,650
play about this and it could be really

816
00:33:58,650 --> 00:34:01,050
funny. It really could be.

817
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:02,910
It could be really good.

818
00:34:03,090 --> 00:34:04,740
Um, I have a couple things that I'm going to

819
00:34:04,740 --> 00:34:08,310
do. I just had another workshop recently and

820
00:34:08,310 --> 00:34:09,630
it went very, very well.

821
00:34:09,630 --> 00:34:11,670
I did a little recap about what we had done

822
00:34:11,670 --> 00:34:14,490
in the first workshop, and so just really

823
00:34:14,490 --> 00:34:16,860
fun. And a lot of women are making

824
00:34:16,860 --> 00:34:19,320
connections. The the next thing I'm going to

825
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,660
do is in June and it's going to be called

826
00:34:21,690 --> 00:34:22,950
Talk and SIP.

827
00:34:22,950 --> 00:34:25,440
And people are coming out to Peaks Island.

828
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,360
We're going to do a wine tasting in

829
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,780
different parts of the island and um, and

830
00:34:30,780 --> 00:34:32,820
recap what we've been talking about in these

831
00:34:32,820 --> 00:34:36,780
last few workshops and, um, yeah, a couple

832
00:34:36,780 --> 00:34:39,240
things. There's there's one big idea that I

833
00:34:39,240 --> 00:34:42,570
have brewing that I'd like to bring to

834
00:34:42,570 --> 00:34:44,130
fruition. I have to figure out how I'm going

835
00:34:44,130 --> 00:34:47,550
to do it. But there was a video made a while

836
00:34:47,580 --> 00:34:49,680
back called The Empowerment Project.

837
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:50,970
I don't know if you've heard of it, but it

838
00:34:50,970 --> 00:34:53,070
was wonderful and it was about women in

839
00:34:53,070 --> 00:34:55,770
their journey, and I would like to do that.

840
00:34:55,770 --> 00:34:59,430
I'd like to create a film and talk to all of

841
00:34:59,430 --> 00:35:02,670
us and and other women that have made these

842
00:35:02,670 --> 00:35:05,760
big shifts in their life and taking chances

843
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:10,530
and, and just done some self empowerment of

844
00:35:10,530 --> 00:35:11,580
their own.

845
00:35:11,580 --> 00:35:14,550
And so I'd like to I'd like to interview

846
00:35:14,550 --> 00:35:16,380
women that have done that and make a little

847
00:35:16,380 --> 00:35:18,150
empowering film about it.

848
00:35:18,150 --> 00:35:20,580
Dani Einsohn:
So anyway, Darcy.

849
00:35:20,580 --> 00:35:22,380
Diane Diaz:
If there's anything that I know about you,

850
00:35:22,380 --> 00:35:23,880
it's that you will do that.

851
00:35:24,150 --> 00:35:29,760
I feel I 100% believe that in six months a

852
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,380
year you will contact me and say, guess

853
00:35:31,380 --> 00:35:32,910
what? My film's coming out.

854
00:35:33,510 --> 00:35:36,000
I'm doing it. I have a distinct feeling

855
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,670
about that. So we will definitely look for

856
00:35:38,670 --> 00:35:39,630
that. Either that or we're.

857
00:35:39,630 --> 00:35:41,010
Dani Einsohn:
All going to Broadway.

858
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:43,340
Oh, exactly.

859
00:35:43,340 --> 00:35:45,110
It's something we might be doing.

860
00:35:45,110 --> 00:35:46,760
Darci Foshay:
Both might be doing both.

861
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,170
Dani Einsohn:
Because I think that play would.

862
00:35:48,170 --> 00:35:51,050
Darci Foshay:
Be so fun. I can already see the opening act.

863
00:35:51,050 --> 00:35:52,400
I can already.

864
00:35:52,460 --> 00:35:54,320
Diane Diaz:
See. I told you, she's already got the

865
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:55,610
opening act planned out. It's going to

866
00:35:55,610 --> 00:35:57,740
happen, you guys. It's only going to happen.

867
00:35:57,740 --> 00:35:59,870
Okay. So then, Danny, what about you?

868
00:35:59,870 --> 00:36:02,120
What are your topics that you speak on and

869
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,580
what's on the horizon for you speaking wise

870
00:36:04,610 --> 00:36:05,300
or anything?

871
00:36:05,450 --> 00:36:10,640
Dani Einsohn:
Yeah, I came home just jumping out of my skin

872
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:14,270
wanting to or find other places to speak.

873
00:36:14,270 --> 00:36:18,050
So while I'm doing that, I'm creating sort

874
00:36:18,050 --> 00:36:24,530
of a list of ways that I can craft the the

875
00:36:24,530 --> 00:36:27,800
basic message of my talk about women feeling

876
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:28,970
good enough.

877
00:36:28,970 --> 00:36:32,690
And no matter what happens to you, you can.

878
00:36:32,690 --> 00:36:34,940
You are resilient and you're powerful and

879
00:36:34,940 --> 00:36:36,050
you're good enough.

880
00:36:36,530 --> 00:36:41,060
Um, so I'm, I'm sort of crafting different

881
00:36:41,060 --> 00:36:43,250
messages for different types of groups that

882
00:36:43,250 --> 00:36:44,750
I might approach.

883
00:36:45,050 --> 00:36:47,480
I'm also going to take the wonderful video,

884
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,480
thank you very much and sort of edit that

885
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,120
and create a speaker reel to help me launch

886
00:36:53,150 --> 00:36:55,010
that part of my business.

887
00:36:55,010 --> 00:36:58,520
And I'm working on a coach, um, on a

888
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:02,480
coaching class workshop for, again, midlife

889
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:06,770
women just like Darcy, uh, on similar topics

890
00:37:06,770 --> 00:37:11,120
about the transition and not letting your,

891
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:14,750
your, your limiting beliefs stop you from

892
00:37:14,750 --> 00:37:15,980
going where you want to go.

893
00:37:17,380 --> 00:37:19,690
Diane Diaz:
Oh, wonderful. Well, that's very needed.

894
00:37:19,690 --> 00:37:22,720
This. As we all know, this midlife area can

895
00:37:22,720 --> 00:37:25,720
be challenging, so I think that's something

896
00:37:25,720 --> 00:37:27,580
that's definitely needed.

897
00:37:27,580 --> 00:37:30,520
So, Terri, then what about you?

898
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:34,150
What are your speaking topics and what is on

899
00:37:34,150 --> 00:37:36,220
the horizon for you for speaking?

900
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:40,120
Teri Reuter:
So, uh, last year, the year before, I had

901
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,550
focused more on speaking and had ended up

902
00:37:42,550 --> 00:37:45,370
doing more speaking on mental health at

903
00:37:45,370 --> 00:37:48,550
work, which I find very important.

904
00:37:48,700 --> 00:37:51,250
Uh, and I was brought into that because I

905
00:37:51,250 --> 00:37:52,660
have a background in psychology.

906
00:37:52,660 --> 00:37:57,490
And somehow when we did the retreat, I

907
00:37:57,490 --> 00:38:00,040
decided to come without a topic because I

908
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,020
really wasn't interested in furthering

909
00:38:02,020 --> 00:38:04,480
speaking. Each one of those presentations or

910
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:05,530
speeches that I had done before.

911
00:38:05,530 --> 00:38:07,450
They gave me so much anxiety before I did

912
00:38:07,450 --> 00:38:09,430
them that I decided I didn't want to do that

913
00:38:09,430 --> 00:38:11,740
anymore, and I only came to the retreat to

914
00:38:11,740 --> 00:38:14,980
be with you all. And then as we got through,

915
00:38:14,980 --> 00:38:17,110
I mean, Diane sitting with you that very

916
00:38:17,110 --> 00:38:20,170
first day, it you helped me put together a

917
00:38:20,170 --> 00:38:23,380
framework that frames a lot of what I do

918
00:38:23,380 --> 00:38:27,310
completely. And so it renewed an interest in

919
00:38:27,310 --> 00:38:29,560
even wanting to be on the stage, you know,

920
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,060
working with groups of people as a

921
00:38:31,060 --> 00:38:32,710
facilitator and facilitating their

922
00:38:32,710 --> 00:38:35,350
experience is something that I will continue

923
00:38:35,350 --> 00:38:36,370
to do.

924
00:38:36,370 --> 00:38:38,860
So now I'm contemplating whether or not I

925
00:38:38,860 --> 00:38:42,130
want to try to build out that part of my

926
00:38:42,130 --> 00:38:43,540
business of being a speaker.

927
00:38:43,540 --> 00:38:47,110
I will say I'm still undecided, but from the

928
00:38:47,110 --> 00:38:49,120
framework, I've already started putting

929
00:38:49,150 --> 00:38:51,820
together a multi-day course that would take

930
00:38:51,820 --> 00:38:55,000
people through this idea and perhaps

931
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,040
primarily women for some groups, but for

932
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,620
people in general who feel overwhelmed by

933
00:38:59,620 --> 00:39:02,380
their self-doubt, uh, how they can really

934
00:39:02,380 --> 00:39:04,780
show up to, like, what Danny was talking

935
00:39:04,780 --> 00:39:07,900
about, you know, being able to, even in

936
00:39:07,900 --> 00:39:11,080
uncertainty, lean into their potential.

937
00:39:11,470 --> 00:39:14,470
And so, uh, this course is being built out

938
00:39:14,470 --> 00:39:17,590
to be a couple of day experience to move

939
00:39:17,590 --> 00:39:20,320
through, understanding themselves to how

940
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,420
they can use their language for their inner

941
00:39:22,420 --> 00:39:23,950
voice and an outer voice.

942
00:39:24,910 --> 00:39:26,440
Diane Diaz:
I love to hear that.

943
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,410
So to everybody listening and watching, that

944
00:39:29,410 --> 00:39:31,630
is the power of having a framework that you

945
00:39:31,630 --> 00:39:36,190
can take it from a part of your talk to a

946
00:39:36,190 --> 00:39:40,210
workshop, a course, even bigger content, a

947
00:39:40,210 --> 00:39:41,350
whole program.

948
00:39:41,350 --> 00:39:43,180
That's what a framework can turn into.

949
00:39:43,180 --> 00:39:45,940
So having that framework, whatever it is,

950
00:39:45,970 --> 00:39:47,620
and however you incorporate it into your

951
00:39:47,620 --> 00:39:49,900
message and your talk can become so much

952
00:39:49,900 --> 00:39:51,790
more. So it has legs, right?

953
00:39:51,790 --> 00:39:54,130
It grows. I love to hear that you're doing

954
00:39:54,130 --> 00:39:55,510
that. So yay!

955
00:39:55,900 --> 00:39:57,580
Um, good for you.

956
00:39:57,580 --> 00:39:59,890
All right. Well, as you all know,

957
00:39:59,890 --> 00:40:02,560
storytelling and vulnerability are super

958
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:04,660
important and powerful in a talk.

959
00:40:04,660 --> 00:40:06,130
And that's what connects with the audience.

960
00:40:06,130 --> 00:40:08,350
And you, you all have such amazing stories,

961
00:40:08,350 --> 00:40:10,510
and you did such a great job at the retreat,

962
00:40:10,510 --> 00:40:12,730
incorporating those stories, telling them,

963
00:40:12,730 --> 00:40:14,530
being vulnerable with everybody at the

964
00:40:14,530 --> 00:40:16,420
retreat, but also getting filmed.

965
00:40:16,420 --> 00:40:18,460
Right. And then now you've got that on film.

966
00:40:18,460 --> 00:40:20,950
And so being vulnerable can be hard and

967
00:40:20,950 --> 00:40:23,530
challenging. But that is the the beautiful

968
00:40:23,530 --> 00:40:25,330
part of someone's message is the

969
00:40:25,330 --> 00:40:27,670
vulnerability and how that connects with

970
00:40:27,670 --> 00:40:30,550
everybody else. So thank you to all of you

971
00:40:30,550 --> 00:40:32,320
for coming to the retreat and spending your

972
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,240
time with us, and for being vulnerable and

973
00:40:34,240 --> 00:40:36,610
for supporting the other women as they were

974
00:40:36,610 --> 00:40:37,720
doing the same.

975
00:40:37,720 --> 00:40:40,270
And so for those of you who are watching and

976
00:40:40,450 --> 00:40:43,150
listening and or listening, be sure to

977
00:40:43,150 --> 00:40:45,640
connect with Danny, Darcy and Terry on

978
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:47,260
LinkedIn. If you're listening to this on the

979
00:40:47,260 --> 00:40:49,090
podcast, you can go to the show notes page

980
00:40:49,090 --> 00:40:51,100
and get their connection information there.

981
00:40:51,100 --> 00:40:52,690
But go to LinkedIn, make sure you connect

982
00:40:52,690 --> 00:40:56,110
with them, comment to them, and just let

983
00:40:56,110 --> 00:40:57,340
them know that you appreciate the work that

984
00:40:57,340 --> 00:41:00,250
they're doing. Um, and so again, thank you

985
00:41:00,250 --> 00:41:02,020
to all of you for being here.

986
00:41:02,020 --> 00:41:05,260
Now, for everybody else, if you want to work

987
00:41:05,260 --> 00:41:07,180
with us to develop your thought leadership

988
00:41:07,180 --> 00:41:10,120
message, create your signature talk and

989
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:11,290
learn the business of speaking.

990
00:41:11,290 --> 00:41:12,610
That's exactly what we do in the Thought

991
00:41:12,610 --> 00:41:15,400
Leader Academy. So make sure that you reach

992
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:16,450
out to us. You can.

993
00:41:16,450 --> 00:41:18,190
The next Thought Leader Academy starts on

994
00:41:18,190 --> 00:41:19,690
April 2nd. So if you want to learn more

995
00:41:19,690 --> 00:41:21,550
about that, you can go to speaking your

996
00:41:21,550 --> 00:41:24,400
brand.com/academy. Again that's speaking

997
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,500
your brand.com/academy.

998
00:41:26,500 --> 00:41:28,480
And then of course the best way to stay up

999
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,850
to date on all things speaking your brand is

1000
00:41:30,850 --> 00:41:33,010
to go to speaking your brand.com/join and

1001
00:41:33,010 --> 00:41:34,960
you can get on the email list.

1002
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,020
So once again thank you Danny, Darcy and

1003
00:41:38,020 --> 00:41:40,570
Terry for taking the time to come on

1004
00:41:40,570 --> 00:41:42,430
backstage to share with everybody who is

1005
00:41:42,430 --> 00:41:45,340
watching and just for being so generous and

1006
00:41:45,340 --> 00:41:46,990
vulnerable with all of us.

1007
00:41:46,990 --> 00:41:48,220
We appreciate you.

1008
00:41:48,220 --> 00:41:50,230
So thank you for your time today.

1009
00:41:50,860 --> 00:41:51,370
Dani Einsohn:
You're welcome.

1010
00:41:51,370 --> 00:41:52,510
Darci Foshay:
Thank you so much.

1011
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:54,430
Dani Einsohn:
We appreciate you.

1012
00:41:55,300 --> 00:41:56,890
Diane Diaz:
Oh, thank you so much.

1013
00:41:56,890 --> 00:41:58,960
All right. Well have a great rest of your

1014
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:00,010
day. Bye.

1015
00:42:00,430 --> 00:42:02,530
Carol Cox:
That was so much fun and so many useful

1016
00:42:02,530 --> 00:42:04,420
insights that they shared that you can start

1017
00:42:04,420 --> 00:42:06,580
using in your own presentations.

1018
00:42:06,580 --> 00:42:08,740
Until next time, thanks for listening.