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 Is this a private obligation?

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 Or do you allow spectators?

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 Get the fuck back in your car, old man.

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 Don't let me interrupt.

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 Watch it again and again.

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 So where by?

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 Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, amen.

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 He fights and runs away. He lives to fight another day.

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 But it's usually best to face one's destiny.

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 What you agree?

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 He was destined for the Olympics.

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 There's no one more in your national test.

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 Until his dreams were shattered by a twist of fate.

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 What happened was an accident.

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 It wasn't your fault.

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 That's supposed to make me feel better.

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 But one man is willing to give him another chance.

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 Alex, magic make it.

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 For price.

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 Our fight is a well paid and very well trained.

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 I'd like to join them.

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 The come one of the best.

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 And this is the ring of steel.

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 That's Jack.

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 I love Jacky.

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 It's very good.

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 So far he's the best.

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 I think Alex could do better.

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 Alex, welcome to the class.

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 You're just in time for your first lesson.

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 Number one, I decide who fights and wins.

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 Number two, there is no fighting outside

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 the ring of steel ever.

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 You can't make me fight.

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 Alex!

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 What have you done with Elena?

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 There is a lot of stake here, isn't there?

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 Is it dangerous, man, Alex?

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 Don't you ever disobey me again?

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 I never do you understand me!

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 Don't underestimate him what he's asking you to do.

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 If I do, I say and when I say.

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 Death has just become a spectator sport.

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 Ring of Steel.

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 Hello, folks.

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 It's another Sidby F. podcast, "Burntens."

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 But the fan's part about this one is this one's

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 going to be on your main feed, because I'm hoping

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 to show it in a something.

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 and be had a good time doing crippled theater.

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 So I brought him here.

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 It's like a twist in his arm, ever.

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 But Ricky Morgan, how are you doing, sir?

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 Well, it's happened, man.

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 I'm always glad to be back and hang out with my buddy.

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 it's always a shock to me, right?

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 and I expected some horror flick, and he picked neighbors.

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 I like you just bring something up that I'm like, never

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 I've listened to Was Krueganation.

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 I'm going to look right now and tell you, OK?

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 which come to work for his Joe Don Baker.

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 who shoot during an actress.

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 She was the IKD on that show.

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 Darling Vogel, who, as Elena Carter, who you may know,

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 She was in that movie, but didn't do a whole lot past that.

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 oh, here it is.

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 Alex Fryer is the guy in question who kills somebody.

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 because from starts an offencing tournament,

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 and after the adventurous soundtrack that ensues

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 in this movie, I would replace.

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 Like the way they're going to Swashbucklin.

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 I mean, this maybe just changes its mind

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 It's like insert saxophone interlude here.

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 And then insert the Swashbucklin music back in here again.

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 And of course, he's Mr. Joe Cool.

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 He's trying to hit on this girl.

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 He's trying to show how smart he is.

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 He's third time world champion, Fincer, Yada, Yada.

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 Because we know what that means.

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 I mean, saxophone saxophone music, brother.

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 and he gets up there and accidentally kills the guy.

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 because they're fencing in competition.

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 But that breaks off.

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 He stabs the guy in the eye hilariously,

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 because he had a right spot.

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 It's supposed to be an Italian movie,

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 because he hit the eye trauma right away.

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 because he didn't know.

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 I didn't ask it.

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 It's an integral to the plot of the movie.

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 So I give him that.

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 He hadn't quite hit it yet.

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 He's getting mugged in an alley.

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 Man in Black and the credits.

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 Our man, Joe Don Baker--

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 --who is also at the tournament.

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 You don't get to see him.

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 to happen, supposedly.

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 Very, very studious.

267
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 You know, with letting something's going down,

268
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 I missed that, actually.

269
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 So thank you for that.

270
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 Yeah.

271
00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,160
 But Joe Don Baker shows up in a hat.

272
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 And I think a cape or a duster, perhaps.

273
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 I don't know.

274
00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:06,320
 But he--

275
00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:07,320
 What is he saying?

276
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 What does he say?

277
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 Something when he gets out of the car is like a--

278
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 you don't have any prospectors here.

279
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 Something like that.

280
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 He pulls out a sword out of this cane.

281
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 You know what?

282
00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:22,920
 Him in this hat and this duster,

283
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 you kind of believe that shit for some reason.

284
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 I don't know why.

285
00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:28,320
 Yeah.

286
00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:29,920
 And you know, you get these thugs

287
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 or they're trying to beat up our main character.

288
00:12:31,680 --> 00:12:33,440
 Who's really kind of down and out, right?

289
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 Because he's accidentally killed somebody.

290
00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:37,640
 He hasn't really quite got over it.

291
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 Even though emotionally, he doesn't really show it.

292
00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,320
 But when he talks to the girls, like,

293
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 am I supposed to just get over that?

294
00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:45,400
 Well, you know, she's trying.

295
00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:47,080
 You know?

296
00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:50,800
 And so he's emotionally distraught.

297
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 And he gets mugged.

298
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 Joe Don Baker shows up and shows out.

299
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 And then you get, hey, if you ever need anything, look me up.

300
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 And he gives him this card.

301
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 It says, "Circle of steel."

302
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 [LAUGHS]

303
00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,720
 I think a rainbow steel.

304
00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:13,000
 And then our hero joins the men in black, you know?

305
00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:13,600
 Yeah.

306
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 Manel, man.

307
00:13:14,560 --> 00:13:15,960
 That's the end of the movie, by the way.

308
00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:17,120
 He joins the men in black.

309
00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:18,480
 But no, it's not the end of the movie.

310
00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,600
 Yeah.

311
00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:21,400
 Yeah, yeah.

312
00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:22,360
 What do I do next?

313
00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:24,040
 I'm a fresh little sword fighter.

314
00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,040
 You know, how about to get a job, buddy?

315
00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:27,040
 But no.

316
00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:29,080
 Or I'll just go upstairs and have sex with this woman

317
00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:30,960
 that I just met a little while ago, you know?

318
00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:31,960
 She's ended with that one.

319
00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:32,960
 So she's--

320
00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:33,460
 Sure.

321
00:13:33,460 --> 00:13:33,960
 Oh, yeah.

322
00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:34,960
 I guess it's consensual.

323
00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:35,960
 Yeah.

324
00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,120
 Like you said, you get the cinema sex

325
00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:39,120
 I phone going on.

326
00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:40,920
 You get the light--

327
00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:42,920
 real light blue lighting going on.

328
00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:43,680
 Yeah, man.

329
00:13:43,680 --> 00:13:44,760
 It's happening.

330
00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,080
 You can see some nip, but not a lot of nip, you know?

331
00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:50,520
 Because this is why this is right at our.

332
00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,880
 This is, I guess, what you come for, but not really.

333
00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:54,880
 Yeah.

334
00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:55,880
 Yeah.

335
00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:57,240
 I mean, you know it's going to happen,

336
00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,400
 because it's just a requirement in these kind of movies.

337
00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:01,240
 But it's really not what you show up for.

338
00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:06,120
 What you show up for is Joe Don Baker acting like Joe Don King.

339
00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,440
 Yes.

340
00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:11,160
 That should have been his temporary name for this movie, Joe Don King.

341
00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:12,480
 Yeah.

342
00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:15,960
 And this is right in the action of '94, where

343
00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:21,440
 Joe Don King was doing this thing, making all stupid money

344
00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:22,440
 with the boxing.

345
00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:23,040
 Yeah.

346
00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:24,040
 Yeah.

347
00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:25,040
 Yeah.

348
00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:29,480
 So you've got an underground tournament of people sword fighting.

349
00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:34,120
 So you're basically taking in or the dragon and blood

350
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 sport and fencing.

351
00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:37,400
 [LAUGHS]

352
00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:41,720
 Cape Rian Fencing is very important to the plot, you know?

353
00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:43,560
 And this is what you get.

354
00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:48,000
 I mean, it's an underground kumatay with swords, you know?

355
00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:51,680
 We're sometimes-- well, one guy that we'll talk about,

356
00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:55,840
 you know, who's their champion, Jack, played by Gary Casper

357
00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:57,800
 in this movie, who's done--

358
00:14:57,800 --> 00:14:58,600
 who's working on the base.

359
00:14:58,600 --> 00:14:59,440
 It still works today.

360
00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,840
 He was just unsupergirled a long go.

361
00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,760
 So yeah.

362
00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:09,280
 This is the tough man that the champion of the Ring of Steel.

363
00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:13,720
 So he's all in for killing people and destroying them

364
00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:15,000
 in any spot.

365
00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,520
 And he's got a buddy he makes, because he's just

366
00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:18,360
 the bigger bandit.

367
00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:21,600
 He is Brian, played by Jim Peary.

368
00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:26,520
 Their fight is spectacular.

369
00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:31,880
 But what differs this from other tournament fighting movies

370
00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,920
 is the stupidity, but you're really all

371
00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:39,600
 in to what's going on here, because you have one fight,

372
00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:45,160
 where it's like a brutal high kicking martial arts

373
00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:49,200
 with a sword and a shield moment.

374
00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:52,720
 And they have Alex and Brian's fight, which

375
00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:56,400
 is this big old pirate musical thing.

376
00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,080
 Where Brian's jumping into the crowd,

377
00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:02,320
 like taking drinks from women and stuff like that.

378
00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:02,920
 Yeah.

379
00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:03,920
 It's showboat, man.

380
00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:05,080
 It's showboat.

381
00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:06,040
 Yeah.

382
00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,880
 Yeah, I mean, of course, that's that setup, too,

383
00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:12,400
 that you get from, well, enter the dragon, Mortal Kombat.

384
00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:16,080
 And take your pick of any tournament movie where you

385
00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,160
 and another guy become pals, but eventually,

386
00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:19,720
 you're going to have to fight each other, right?

387
00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:21,560
 Same thing in killer, be killed.

388
00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:23,600
 Like I said, pick a tournament movie.

389
00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:24,600
 This is going to happen.

390
00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:26,360
 You're going to end up having to fight when your buddies.

391
00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:29,840
 And they're going to force you, oh, need to fight to the death.

392
00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:31,200
 These other fights, it didn't matter.

393
00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,200
 But this one, you got to fight to the death, you know?

394
00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:36,880
 So, but they don't really fight to the death.

395
00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:37,720
 So--

396
00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:41,760
 Because their fights are breaded for the theatrics

397
00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:42,760
 and the entertainment.

398
00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:44,880
 And with this crowd of people, I

399
00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:47,880
 to mention this is your classic, you know,

400
00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:51,720
 The Man in Black, Joe Don Baker has a dance club

401
00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,160
 with the elevator that goes all the way down

402
00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,480
 to go fight this tournament ring.

403
00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:59,520
 And the people that are watching this,

404
00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:01,080
 you know, they think they'd be out of for blood.

405
00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:02,560
 But they're really into this.

406
00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:04,360
 These two dandies fighting each other

407
00:17:04,360 --> 00:17:06,320
 with a sword and puppy shirts.

408
00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:07,480
 Yeah.

409
00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:08,600
 Yep.

410
00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:10,960
 It was like they went back and captured some pirates

411
00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:14,240
 and said, all right, let's put them into a ring, let them go.

412
00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:18,000
 And, you know, the other guy is probably

413
00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:19,240
 my favorite character in the whole movie,

414
00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,040
 because he's having fun, right?

415
00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:25,080
 He said it's the whole thing where Jack is supposed to fight.

416
00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:26,840
 And he sends the chicken out there instead.

417
00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:30,880
 And, you know, there's a lot of fun stuff like that that

418
00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:31,800
 happens in this, too.

419
00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:33,800
 And again, like I said, that creates that friendship

420
00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:35,520
 between our main character and him.

421
00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:38,360
 And eventually, you got to bring that to halt, right?

422
00:17:38,360 --> 00:17:41,240
 Because Joe Don King Baker can't have that.

423
00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:43,360
 He's got control, everything including it, which

424
00:17:43,360 --> 00:17:45,080
 is a goofy aspect.

425
00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:49,560
 I love about this movie, you know, to keep Alex our hero

426
00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:51,080
 into the tournament.

427
00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,440
 He kidapses a girl for no reason.

428
00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:56,560
 And puts her up in the penthouse, you know?

429
00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:59,320
 Yeah, you could have just paid him like a lot of money.

430
00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:03,040
 And he would have just probably stayed, you know?

431
00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:04,600
 But no, we got to take--

432
00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:06,040
 we got to do it by force, you know,

433
00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:07,880
 because that's kind of people we are here.

434
00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:08,880
 So--

435
00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,000
 See, another fighting movie like this,

436
00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,560
 she should have been possibly sexually assaulted or tied

437
00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:15,040
 to a chair or something.

438
00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:16,040
 Right.

439
00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,000
 No, she just lived in an up-and-up care-all department, you know?

440
00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:19,120
 Yeah, she's just hanging out.

441
00:18:19,120 --> 00:18:21,440
 What's the order of some Chinese food, you know?

442
00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,600
 Even like when they meet each other, she's like,

443
00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:25,240
 I'm not that much distress, actually.

444
00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,200
 I'm kind of having a good time, you know?

445
00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:31,040
 [LAUGHTER]

446
00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,280
 But dude, when we get to get to this mess with this fighting

447
00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:35,720
 stuff, he says, two more matches.

448
00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,680
 Sure you do, guy. Sure you do, you know?

449
00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:41,720
 [LAUGHTER]

450
00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:43,880
 And of course, when it's all said and done,

451
00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:44,960
 I mean, and that's the thing.

452
00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,960
 Joe Don Baker is pretty much playing all these guys, right?

453
00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:53,000
 And what he says goes, and the rules for this are kind of like

454
00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:53,960
 fight club.

455
00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:58,040
 I mean, there are no rules.

456
00:18:58,040 --> 00:18:59,120
 He basically tells of that.

457
00:18:59,120 --> 00:19:00,560
 Yeah, there's no rules for this.

458
00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:02,960
 You're in there and you fight to win.

459
00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,560
 And you fight to the other one's ceases.

460
00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,840
 And in some cases, it's going to be to the death.

461
00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,920
 And that's kind of how this thing rolls.

462
00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:13,920
 And obviously, when you see them teamed up

463
00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:15,040
 and who they're fighting each other,

464
00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:18,840
 you know if it's going to be to the death or not.

465
00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:25,560
 And of course, Jake, Jack, can't stand him because he's

466
00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:27,160
 the main guy, right?

467
00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:28,280
 Nobody takes my spot.

468
00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:31,480
 So you've got that bad blood already there.

469
00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:33,920
 And that gets escalated as we go along.

470
00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:38,360
 So, you know, Jack wants to be Joe Don Baker's number one man,

471
00:19:38,360 --> 00:19:40,360
 which he is, but he wants to stay there.

472
00:19:40,360 --> 00:19:43,240
 He doesn't want this new guy cutting in on his action.

473
00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,680
 And it just goes bonkers, man.

474
00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,080
 I mean, to lead up to, you know, it's going

475
00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:52,240
 to be the big fight between those two.

476
00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:54,320
 But they don't really stay in the ring.

477
00:19:54,320 --> 00:20:01,320
 No, they get out of the ring and go fight once

478
00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:04,880
 the building catches on fire and fight in the flaming building.

479
00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:08,120
 And I was one of those things where everything happens

480
00:20:08,120 --> 00:20:09,000
 at the right time, right?

481
00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:10,040
 Because the cops show up.

482
00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:11,320
 They start busting the place.

483
00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,120
 They're trying to arrest everybody.

484
00:20:13,120 --> 00:20:16,600
 But, you know, Jack's got dude's girlfriend by the neck.

485
00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:18,080
 And he's taken off with her.

486
00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,360
 And he's taking a chase in after him.

487
00:20:20,360 --> 00:20:22,400
 And then they go to this other part of the building

488
00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,800
 and it ends up being, I don't know,

489
00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,680
 whether making metal or something.

490
00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:29,800
 I don't know, because there's a lot of fire and lava.

491
00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:34,040
 And that's the sword smell right there.

492
00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:38,800
 I'm sure the weighted scene that we did not see, you know.

493
00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:41,200
 He just happens to be attached to this nightclub.

494
00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,680
 It has a fighting ring underneath it.

495
00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:45,520
 So I don't know, man.

496
00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:49,720
 Maybe Joe Don Baker, his character, the man in black,

497
00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,160
 had a little more action going on just that he just did

498
00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:53,440
 this stuff for fun.

499
00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:57,320
 His real money was the metal plant next door.

500
00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:00,040
 Well, you know, you had to make those fancy swords,

501
00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,000
 you claim belong to Charles II and stuff like that.

502
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:03,840
 Right.

503
00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,360
 Yeah, he's got the collection to try to woo our hero.

504
00:21:06,360 --> 00:21:10,760
 And hey, this is how cool what you're getting involved in is.

505
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:12,520
 It's not just killing people.

506
00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,320
 It's, hey, we get these cool swords.

507
00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:18,920
 You could use my fancy swords from the 18th century,

508
00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,120
 which you know, if you're going to have guys killing each other,

509
00:21:21,120 --> 00:21:23,560
 you know, I was very fighting to the death.

510
00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,640
 Why would you let me use like these priceless swords?

511
00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:26,680
 I have no idea.

512
00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:30,600
 I just, I'm sorry.

513
00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,240
 No, he's going to ruin the swords, man.

514
00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:34,680
 You're going to ruin the swords.

515
00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:38,320
 Yeah, use this $15 one that I just made, you know.

516
00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,200
 I will say, you know, one guy in this movie

517
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,240
 you had a pretty fast and career besides Joe Don Baker.

518
00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,200
 It is the big guy that the front that comes in from the Renaissance

519
00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:48,440
 fair to be a sword fighter.

520
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:52,040
 And that's one scene.

521
00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,560
 Travis Buchana is the actor's name.

522
00:21:54,560 --> 00:22:00,720
 And he's been all over the special in John Rostov.

523
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,920
 He played the clown, the fatter clown character

524
00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:05,840
 and bad memory churns.

525
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,000
 He was in Roadhouse.

526
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,800
 He played the big hairy gang Roadhouse.

527
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,720
 Well, twice dead, which is a fun horror film.

528
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:15,200
 It's pretty stupid.

529
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:16,560
 That's all my list to do.

530
00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,160
 It's cheerleader camp, which is a stupid fun horror film

531
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,480
 to do.

532
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,320
 Hamburger the motion picture, people.

533
00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:23,920
 Come on.

534
00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:25,480
 Yeah.

535
00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:29,360
 Yeah, he's in some stuff.

536
00:22:29,360 --> 00:22:34,120
 But that guy, he makes the mistake of saying, well,

537
00:22:34,120 --> 00:22:36,280
 I'm just going to go fucking tell all about this place.

538
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:40,000
 It's a room full of tough guys.

539
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,640
 Yeah, I don't go over where I get this butt kick because he

540
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:46,280
 thinks he can compete with these guys that are real swordsman

541
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:50,320
 against a guy that pretends to be a swordsman.

542
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:51,480
 Yes, quite comical.

543
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:52,560
 He gets spanked by that.

544
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:56,320
 To put it in perspective, if you watch any of the cobra

545
00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,000
 cast off, he's basically stingray, except stingray

546
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:03,120
 is a lot much much cooler than this guy is.

547
00:23:03,120 --> 00:23:06,280
 He gets spanked by a bar, a bar, a jack, our, our, our foil

548
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:10,240
 in this movie with this, I guess, and like bamboo sword or

549
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:10,760
 something.

550
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:11,760
 It's pranks the swords.

551
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:12,760
 Yeah.

552
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:13,760
 So it had to hurt like a motherfucker.

553
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:14,760
 Oh, yeah.

554
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:15,760
 Those things still hurt.

555
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:16,760
 Yeah.

556
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:17,760
 Here comes Alex.

557
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:18,760
 Get our hero room.

558
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:19,760
 It's a good time.

559
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:21,000
 You know, just more reason than want to kill Alex.

560
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:25,280
 And just building that tension, which is one thing this movie

561
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,600
 does as well is building the tension between those two.

562
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,680
 Because he's just taken away jacks.

563
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:31,000
 So a thirst for blood there.

564
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,080
 And he did it as a jacked or like that, man.

565
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:35,080
 Right.

566
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:39,240
 And that's, again, that's, that's the setup, right?

567
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:43,760
 There's for the most of the story, it's pretty predictable,

568
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:44,080
 right?

569
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,320
 Because like I said, we've had all the tournament movies

570
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,360
 and it's pretty much the same setup.

571
00:23:49,360 --> 00:23:51,600
 It's just that got some weird little quirky things that

572
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,960
 happen in it that really sets it apart.

573
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,320
 And the fact you got Joe down making it here that's supposed to be

574
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,440
 the puppet master of all of it.

575
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:02,000
 Yeah, that's that's what makes it kind of unique.

576
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:03,360
 But the story is the story.

577
00:24:03,360 --> 00:24:08,160
 And by the end of it, instead of it being like this big sword

578
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,000
 fight thing at the end, which you still kind of get, it almost

579
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:12,960
 becomes more a arrow fling.

580
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,480
 It becomes more swashbuckling for some reason.

581
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:17,800
 And then it turns into die hard.

582
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,360
 [LAUGHS]

583
00:24:20,360 --> 00:24:24,040
 I mean, that goes to our star here, who was also the writer

584
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:30,120
 of this movie, Robert Chapin, who, if he read into his career,

585
00:24:30,120 --> 00:24:34,480
 before this, he was like a professional Renaissance

586
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:35,800
 fair person.

587
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,880
 They had a jousting team and everything.

588
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:41,920
 So he was all in with the sword fighting stuff.

589
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,560
 So if anything, it's choreographed very well.

590
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,040
 And I think he had a lot to do with that.

591
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:49,040
 Yeah, probably so.

592
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,960
 Because you could watch a film where guys are swinging swords

593
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:52,480
 at each other.

594
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,280
 They're going to be real sloppy.

595
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,480
 This looked like it has some thought

596
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,720
 behind it that the fight scenes with the churns.

597
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:00,720
 Yeah.

598
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,520
 That's probably where they spent the money, right?

599
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:06,640
 Because the rest of it's just the typical tournament setup.

600
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:11,520
 Not near as many people as in a normal tournament-type movie.

601
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:16,120
 But at the same time, these guys do a pretty good job

602
00:25:16,120 --> 00:25:21,800
 with handling the swords and the choreographie, like you said.

603
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,760
 But yeah, when you get to the big finale,

604
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:27,840
 it just kind of--

605
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,640
 it changes gears a few times because they

606
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:34,120
 fight on that kind of catwalk-suspended walkway

607
00:25:34,120 --> 00:25:36,280
 that they've got over the flames that

608
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,840
 are burning for some reason in this building.

609
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:40,800
 Yeah, it's on fire, for sure.

610
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,960
 So they're fighting, and then he kicks Jack off of there,

611
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,320
 and you think, OK, he fell to his death.

612
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:47,520
 I mean, it's a long way down.

613
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:49,800
 It looks like a good, what, 30, 40-foot drop.

614
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:54,560
 And you think, OK, he fell into flames.

615
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:55,680
 He's dead.

616
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,480
 Well, no.

617
00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,280
 So now the flames are getting higher for some reason.

618
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:04,760
 So we've got to do a swashbuckling Luke Skywalker--

619
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:08,280
 rep my belt around this cable.

620
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,080
 And we're going to slide down it to the other side,

621
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:12,120
 go on top of the roof.

622
00:26:12,120 --> 00:26:13,320
 Guess who was there?

623
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:14,320
 That's right.

624
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:15,000
 Jack.

625
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,400
 Jack's still alive.

626
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,760
 But the hevery-dewel-go-way is still alive

627
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:19,600
 and on this bridge over here.

628
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,000
 Jack is back, baby.

629
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,120
 Which is a great part of that movie.

630
00:26:23,120 --> 00:26:24,640
 It's something to do about.

631
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,440
 Didn't you always want to be a pirate or something?

632
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:30,240
 You're like five minutes, and he wraps that chain around

633
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,120
 that cable, and it looks good.

634
00:26:32,120 --> 00:26:35,640
 The slide down the cable with the chain.

635
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:36,520
 Yeah, it works.

636
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,360
 And that's what I mean.

637
00:26:38,360 --> 00:26:40,440
 Everything works in this movie.

638
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,000
 It's almost not-- you can tell it wouldn't

639
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:44,920
 tend to be a bad movie.

640
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,760
 Which no real bad movie is intended to be a bad movie.

641
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,240
 It just turns out that way.

642
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,760
 But it's a slotted flick.

643
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,160
 And but it's just got these quirky things.

644
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,720
 Like I said, you get the big finale fight scene, I guess,

645
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:00,320
 on the roof of the building and the cops.

646
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,520
 Everybody are down at the bottom looking up

647
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:03,640
 and seeing what's going on.

648
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,280
 And then all of a sudden, things change gear.

649
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,840
 And the building's going to explode for some reason.

650
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:13,320
 And they jump off like it's die hard in land on a--

651
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:17,360
 they've got a catching platform there for them.

652
00:27:17,360 --> 00:27:21,680
 You know, how did they know those people were going to be on the roof

653
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,440
 and were going to jump off and have that thing blown up in time?

654
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:25,640
 Well, the cops were there.

655
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,480
 And the fire was flaming.

656
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,120
 So I imagine the firefighters had something for them

657
00:27:31,120 --> 00:27:33,880
 to either climb on or jump down on.

658
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:38,400
 I don't know what the budget was for their giant poofy

659
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:39,760
 inflatable thing.

660
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,160
 It's a legit one.

661
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,000
 I mean, it's the one that they kind of use.

662
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,320
 So I imagine the firefighters knew

663
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,680
 they'd be folks trying to get out through windows or whatnot.

664
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:54,760
 And so I'll give them the placement of this giant poofy air

665
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,160
 thing.

666
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,320
 But what happens before this is spectacular

667
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,120
 because one of the rules, the man of black

668
00:28:02,120 --> 00:28:05,920
 has-- nobody fights outside the ring of steel.

669
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,160
 So he finally shows up in the end of this movie.

670
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,760
 Stix is his sword came through Jack and says, I told you

671
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:16,200
 I don't know fighting outside the ring of steel.

672
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,600
 So he's living by his convictions.

673
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:22,400
 And he wants Alex to be his champion.

674
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,800
 And Alex isn't going for it, of course.

675
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,520
 So one of the biggest baller moves of this movie is like,

676
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:28,600
 I don't know how to weigh out.

677
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,600
 He walks through the door.

678
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:34,440
 Is it the flame shoot up behind him like he's the devil?

679
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,560
 It's a great shot of this movie.

680
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,920
 And then after the building has burned down

681
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,120
 the stuff, you get that flash Gordon ending, right?

682
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:43,720
 Yes.

683
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:47,800
 The sequel they never showed up because out of the ashes,

684
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:51,200
 you see this rapier or long sort of something.

685
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,880
 And somebody's hand-- somebody's glove hand picks it up.

686
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,120
 It's like, yep, we're talking the sequel to the ring of steel.

687
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,200
 And I probably would have been there for it.

688
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,400
 I'm not going to lie to you.

689
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:03,520
 Rings of steel.

690
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:04,440
 Rings of steel.

691
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,000
 The follow-up, yeah.

692
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,600
 I probably would have been there for it.

693
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,680
 I'm not going to lie to you.

694
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,440
 I can't say this is high class cinema.

695
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,600
 But I did enjoy my time with it.

696
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,840
 Because when I said we're going to do this Ricky,

697
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,760
 I said, what is it?

698
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,480
 I think it's definitely unique.

699
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,120
 You know, it was for this kind of movie.

700
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,840
 It's taking something that you've seen several times.

701
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:30,920
 And it's pretty predictable.

702
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:32,760
 But at the same time, like I said, it just

703
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,320
 does these little things that just make you OK?

704
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:36,160
 All right.

705
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:37,360
 I'll give you that.

706
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:38,400
 Yeah, that's for sure.

707
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,880
 I mean, this is made--

708
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,840
 I guess post those kind of movies.

709
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:47,920
 And sorry if my cat's making noise, she's in the room with me.

710
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:52,160
 I'll blame it on Dutch acid in post-production.

711
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,400
 But yeah, this is made a bunch of times.

712
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,800
 You can watch death warrant and lion heart,

713
00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:00,920
 or pick your Jean-Claude Van Damme, Turner movie,

714
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,160
 The Quest, Kickboxer, Blood Support.

715
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:05,120
 There's more than that.

716
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:06,760
 King of the Kickboxers.

717
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:10,360
 They made a bunch of these in the '90s and late '80s.

718
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,440
 But this is like on the back end of those.

719
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:17,560
 And I think that this guy's passion for first sword play

720
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,760
 and run us on shit.

721
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,400
 It sort of translates a well to this kind of movie.

722
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,040
 But it didn't go all in.

723
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:25,760
 Right.

724
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:26,280
 Yeah.

725
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:31,160
 But it went all in enough for me to say, hey, I enjoy my time with it.

726
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,760
 And I'm all there for the Joe Don Baker,

727
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:38,280
 the rise of the man in black top.

728
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,720
 Do you have to give credit to the cast here?

729
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:44,200
 Because if the cast wasn't solid enough,

730
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,040
 this could have been a very low grade movie.

731
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:48,920
 So you kind of have to hand it to that.

732
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:50,640
 It's a solid group.

733
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,280
 It's like you did a masters with our friend Dan Bone.

734
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,880
 And one major fascinating thing I found out about it

735
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:01,760
 was the reason why the sword play looked sort of decent

736
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,200
 is because the guy that played Blade

737
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:08,680
 was like a professional horse master and swords master.

738
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:12,080
 You didn't see a lot of horse play in that movie.

739
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:13,800
 Not only do you like the goofy stuff,

740
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,640
 but like any horse is at all in that movie.

741
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,920
 But the fact this guy has some kind of two-dowage,

742
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,880
 and that sense, that's kind of--

743
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,920
 I'm sure it made those scenes a little bit better.

744
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:24,240
 I'm sure he helped out with that.

745
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:25,240
 Yeah.

746
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:31,240
 This guy being what he was, I think that it

747
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,160
 had to be better than it would have been.

748
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:38,880
 And it's also a look at the different styles of fighting

749
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,040
 to, especially with the sword, because you got the samurai sword,

750
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,760
 you've got the swashbuckling thing,

751
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:50,080
 you've got the strict fencing approach to that you have.

752
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:54,120
 So it's almost that the whole idea of what Bruce Lee was doing

753
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,960
 with the end of the dragon was exposing all the different styles.

754
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,440
 And the best style is the culmination

755
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,840
 of all of them together into one style.

756
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,160
 You're still getting that thing, even though it's not

757
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:06,640
 heavy-handed in it.

758
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,160
 You still see it, because when Alex first gets in there

759
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,160
 and starts fighting, Joe Dott and I were going to say,

760
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:13,800
 just do what you do.

761
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,640
 Don't try to change your style.

762
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,640
 Do what you know works for you in the fencing world.

763
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,400
 And when he starts doing that, then obviously,

764
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:21,440
 it starts working for him.

765
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:25,840
 So you get that speed on it as well.

766
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:27,200
 I have to mention this clip.

767
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,720
 Look for him this time around.

768
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:35,120
 Judo Jean Lebel, the legendary fighter and trainer

769
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,840
 who trained many, many people for anywhere

770
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:44,240
 from Roddy Roddy Piper to Raudy Ronda Rousy to so many people.

771
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,840
 He shows up at this movie with some kind of bodyguard or something.

772
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,840
 If you don't know who Judo Jean Lebel is,

773
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:54,280
 this guy was stretching people into his 80s.

774
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,360
 And he was a real tough dude.

775
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:01,120
 I think he died last year, which is--

776
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:02,040
 He lived a good life.

777
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:03,200
 So there's that.

778
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,680
 And that's pretty cool.

779
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:09,040
 It's like when Frank Duke's shows up in Highlander for no reason.

780
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,640
 Hey, that's Frank Duke's in the car.

781
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,840
 That's an tournament to action other movies.

782
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:18,200
 But I don't know if it was a nice touch to throw a true blue

783
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:19,640
 tough guy in this movie.

784
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,760
 You know, just kind of slumbered in this movie if you will.

785
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:28,040
 But I have to ask you any final thoughts

786
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,480
 that you have on this movie.

787
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,960
 What would you give it one to 10?

788
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:34,840
 One to 10?

789
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,080
 I'll probably give this a six.

790
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,800
 It's a little better than just average to me.

791
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:44,920
 I mean, it is entertaining, even though, like I said,

792
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:46,120
 it's very predictable.

793
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,120
 And I think that's something that kind of keeps it from getting

794
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:49,080
 in the higher.

795
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,960
 And it just kind of ramped things up towards the end.

796
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,160
 You knew that somebody was going to come up and stab Jake,

797
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,640
 but you just weren't sure who it was going to be.

798
00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,720
 So when it happens, and you see his Joe Downback,

799
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:01,960
 he's like, all right, I'll take that, right?

800
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,000
 Because he's Joe King.

801
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:05,040
 I mean, Joe King.

802
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,400
 Don King.

803
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:08,960
 That's his character in this.

804
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:12,360
 And nobody's going to mess up his game.

805
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,480
 You're just the parts that play in the game.

806
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,000
 He's running this thing.

807
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,640
 He'll care if it has to.

808
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,560
 And I think that's really what drives this thing

809
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:21,600
 more than anything else.

810
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,320
 And the fact that, you know, would he actually let Alex go?

811
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,160
 That's where you need the part, too, right?

812
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:28,800
 So I don't know.

813
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,160
 I'd say it's a six.

814
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:31,960
 Yeah, I'm right there with you within six.

815
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:33,440
 It's better than I-- it's better than, you know,

816
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:34,960
 middle of the road.

817
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,280
 I had a good time with it, you know?

818
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,040
 I'm not like an ironic way.

819
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,240
 I mean, I love goofy films like this.

820
00:34:43,240 --> 00:34:48,440
 And this one, it was not your average, you know, kick and punch.

821
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,000
 You know, I'm going to rape your girl.

822
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,320
 Hell, they put up a nice apartment, you know, for Christ's sake.

823
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:54,320
 Yeah.

824
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,520
 It's like, dude, we're not going to hurt your girl.

825
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,200
 We're just going to put her up for a while.

826
00:34:58,200 --> 00:34:59,200
 Yeah.

827
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:00,200
 It's just to keep her.

828
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:01,200
 You heard her arms length.

829
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,480
 And so you'll fight for me, you know?

830
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:07,000
 And it's just, yeah.

831
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,000
 Because he was really excited about doing this whole thing.

832
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:10,480
 This whole ring is the old thing.

833
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:11,480
 Right.

834
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:16,480
 This murder that happens in the opening fight scene.

835
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,200
 Yeah, six out of ten, I recommend it.

836
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:20,860
 I want to say, and I'm going to look right now,

837
00:35:20,860 --> 00:35:22,160
 real fast while I'm recording this.

838
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,400
 I should just support this might be on YouTube.

839
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:26,400
 I-- I watched it.

840
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:27,240
 It's on YouTube.

841
00:35:27,240 --> 00:35:28,240
 That's where I watched it.

842
00:35:28,240 --> 00:35:30,320
 I watched our friend's video service.

843
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:31,400
 He has it on there.

844
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:32,880
 But you can find this on YouTube.

845
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,320
 And I recommend going to check it out.

846
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:39,280
 Because it says that kind of, you know, early '90s,

847
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,800
 left over from the late '80s action movie.

848
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,280
 That's got a unique change to it.

849
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,920
 And yeah, check it out, man.

850
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:49,040
 Show enough.

851
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:50,840
 I don't know how often we're going to do these.

852
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,760
 I would hope I get together with Ricky Lee's couple weeks.

853
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,360
 There were a couple weeks, uh, do we do what are these?

854
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:57,160
 Or however--

855
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:58,000
 You're going to shot.

856
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,000
 However often he wants to do these.

857
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,640
 Say it because I'm always down.

858
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,560
 But I would let him pick the next one, which he don't know

859
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:05,400
 if that's going to be yet.

860
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,120
 But we'll let you guys know.

861
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,040
 Something he'll be able to discover.

862
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,080
 I'm sure he's been Jones and the Dew on a show like this.

863
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:15,280
 And--

864
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:19,280
 Which you're coming up, man, you're always rolling, you know,

865
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:23,840
 in your car recording episode of Dr. Movie.

866
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:27,640
 What fun greatness is coming up on that, brother?

867
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:31,600
 Well, as far as Dr. Movie goes, of course,

868
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,880
 it depends on when this one actually comes out.

869
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:35,880
 But I just finished.

870
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,000
 I've got a whole week that's going

871
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:42,000
 to be called Batcrap Crazy, which is just a group of five movies

872
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:47,440
 that are very, very hard to even explain, which is like Demon

873
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:53,520
 Wind, the visitor, shocking dark, the boxer's omen,

874
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,280
 and then Court-Syhouse joins me in.

875
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,320
 We do a phenomenon together.

876
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:04,760
 And outside of that, I'm looking at the entire list of movies

877
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,200
 that are considered the demons.

878
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,200
 I call it the Demon Saga, right?

879
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,520
 Because it's not really a series.

880
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,640
 It's just a group of movies that people decided, hey,

881
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,440
 these first two are really popular.

882
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,760
 We'll just call this part three.

883
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,480
 And people will go see it, because the other ones

884
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:20,240
 are so popular.

885
00:37:20,240 --> 00:37:21,880
 And that just got way out of hand.

886
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,000
 And you got all the way down to 10 movies,

887
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:31,480
 even though there's actually 15 movies, something like that.

888
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:32,960
 There's three part threes.

889
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,120
 That's the problem.

890
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:34,960
 Yeah.

891
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:39,560
 I rewatch demons too recently, because I love the whole switch

892
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,360
 of that from the first one.

893
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:45,680
 And I come to realize that I've talked about this for not,

894
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:50,560
 that the girl and demons too becomes the initial demon.

895
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,200
 All those folks had the reason to die,

896
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,640
 because they played the classic age old tale

897
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,040
 of we have relatives over, and they don't

898
00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:00,840
 fluck them leave their house at the time you want to leave.

899
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:02,760
 She didn't want those people in her apartment.

900
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,000
 They died for that reason.

901
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,800
 So if you're that person that sticks around to 11 o'clock

902
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,200
 a night at a house party, the company, your company,

903
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,120
 and they want you to go home, you're

904
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:14,960
 hosting my trip to demon and kill you.

905
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:16,000
 Just think about that next time.

906
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:17,000
 OK?

907
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:18,000
 You know?

908
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,640
 And the thing about Dr.

909
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,960
 Movie is it's genre free.

910
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:26,280
 I mean, I'm jumping from that to old classic exploitation

911
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:30,520
 flicks, just did vanishing point.

912
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,920
 And the next movie was battle beyond the stars.

913
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:36,760
 I mean, it's all over the place, just like me.

914
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:38,480
 And so that's going on.

915
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,800
 Hell, me and we're still going.

916
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:42,360
 It's just hard to get together and do anything.

917
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,120
 We're supposed to be doing Logan's run really soon.

918
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,640
 And it's just kind of hard for Danny and I to get together.

919
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,320
 And he's got a lot going on.

920
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,760
 So we'll get it when we get it.

921
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:53,960
 Well, I can't wait to hear you talk about Jenny Aguider

922
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:55,000
 and bot.

923
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,360
 OK, I can't wait to hear about this.

924
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,040
 I've been talking about Jenny a lot here lately.

925
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,840
 She's been in two or three movies that's just popped up recently

926
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:02,520
 on Dr. Movie.

927
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,640
 I'm like, wow, she just keeps showing up.

928
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:06,400
 And that's not a bad thing.

929
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,960
 I've never seen walk about, but she's naked throughout most

930
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:09,960
 of it.

931
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:11,720
 So maybe I should fix that problem.

932
00:39:11,720 --> 00:39:13,240
 Do you ever see Equus?

933
00:39:13,240 --> 00:39:14,160
 No.

934
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:15,160
 Oh, man.

935
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,320
 Is it like a horse thing or something?

936
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,240
 Man, you want to talk about a messed up movie.

937
00:39:19,240 --> 00:39:20,640
 He's based on a play.

938
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:21,640
 OK.

939
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,160
 That movie is messed up, man.

940
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:28,480
 Equus, you know, I want to say I want to say I would recommend it.

941
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:29,840
 But it's a one time watch.

942
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,600
 You probably won't ever want to watch it again.

943
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,600
 Not because it's bad, just because it's like you just kind

944
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,600
 of have to shake it off.

945
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:38,920
 The soap is our--

946
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:40,280
 You know, that's what I love to do.

947
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,440
 What shows with you is that you'd

948
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,000
 ever been about just horror films.

949
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,160
 And I always told folks, you know, I admire my friends

950
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:48,880
 that you just horror podcasts.

951
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:50,920
 But I might hate myself and the bad for being

952
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:52,000
 a sticker one genre.

953
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:53,280
 And I can never do that.

954
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:53,800
 Yeah.

955
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:54,800
 You can't do it.

956
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:55,800
 You can't do it.

957
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,400
 There's many sides to all of us.

958
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:58,960
 It's just like music.

959
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:00,840
 I mean, you can't just like--

960
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:04,160
 I mean, we gravitate towards one style of music.

961
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,120
 But it's all influential.

962
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,280
 It all affects each other.

963
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:09,960
 And it's all building blocks.

964
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:13,480
 And I love how things go together, right?

965
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,240
 It's just like you recognize people even

966
00:40:15,240 --> 00:40:22,160
 in going back to Bob from this one that was in Switch Play

967
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:22,480
 and Sister.

968
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,760
 I mean, it's all relative.

969
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,560
 And there's no reason.

970
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:31,000
 You can't like steak and cheesecake.

971
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,600
 Yeah.

972
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,440
 I always tell folks that three ninjas

973
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,640
 knuckle up is one of the greatest genre cast--

974
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:39,760
 I should have been a genre cast, ever.

975
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,320
 Because Don Stark is in that too.

976
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,680
 With Charles Napier and a couple other folks

977
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:46,200
 that you see in genre stuff like, oh,

978
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,520
 who's in this movie again?

979
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,560
 That's wild.

980
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,240
 That's really wild.

981
00:40:52,240 --> 00:40:54,080
 But yeah, we'll end this now here.

982
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,840
 We're going to hang up our puffy shirts for the day

983
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,720
 and our fancy pirate swords.

984
00:40:59,720 --> 00:41:01,680
 And we'll see you all again next time.

985
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:06,200
 Hopefully we'll soon with another burnt ends episode.

986
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,000
 We might call something else labor.

987
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,760
 But right now, it's a free burnt ends episode on the Legion

988
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:12,600
 feed.

989
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:14,640
 The other ones are on Patreon, obviously.

990
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,920
 So if you haven't done that, they--

991
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:17,760
 They--

992
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:18,760
 They--

993
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:19,760
 They--

994
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,280
 They go spend your two bucks a month

995
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,320
 and go support our great--

996
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,320
 a group of entrepreneurs, our great--

997
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,400
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998
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:34,080
 lead-- Patreon.com/legionpodcasts please.

999
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:35,800
 Yeah.

1000
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:37,200
 They'll write this one up.

1001
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,640
 And we'll see you all next time.