1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,000 Oh, we're live. We are live. Poduty and the News at the Pittsburgh 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:08,000 Podcast Theater. Wait, it's not Pittsburgh Podcast, it's the Tarentum. I don't know 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:11,400 where I'm at. I'm just. I'm just kind of walking around the theater doing my 4 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:14,960 thing. We have a brand new episode, Poduty and the News. I've got a great 5 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:18,400 guest joining me. Jessica Sutton is here. Hi. 6 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:21,840 Hello. Hello. Happy to be here. 7 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:26,050 So glad to have you here. I got one question for you, Jessica. What time 8 00:00:26,050 --> 00:00:27,650 is it? It is ten o', 9 00:00:27,650 --> 00:00:51,070 clock, 10 00:00:51,300 --> 00:01:16,600 Sam. 11 00:01:18,910 --> 00:01:22,350 And we're back. We are on the stage now. Our last show of the 12 00:01:22,350 --> 00:01:26,110 Christmas stage. Jessica's here. Jessica Sutton, everybody. 13 00:01:26,350 --> 00:01:29,790 Jessica, welcome to the show. Thank you. I'm glad to be here. 14 00:01:29,950 --> 00:01:33,710 We first met, I think at a Pittsburgh podcast meetup maybe 15 00:01:33,710 --> 00:01:37,470 March, April of last year. Yes. And I was at a Phil Better 16 00:01:37,470 --> 00:01:40,030 show. That was the one I was at. Like, I think we were talking about 17 00:01:40,030 --> 00:01:43,190 that earlier before we got live on stage. That was the first time we met. 18 00:01:43,190 --> 00:01:46,960 Was Phil Better? Yes. Wow. Phil was just on the show last 19 00:01:46,960 --> 00:01:49,840 week. International speaker Phil Better himself. But 20 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:54,000 Jessica came to us, met some podcasters during that event, 21 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,800 and has a big show coming up in January. Tell us a little bit about 22 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:01,400 what you've been working on. So I've been working on an audio drama 23 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:05,160 primer class that's going to be here at the Poduty Podcast 24 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:08,800 Theater live 2:30. So if you're interested to learn more about audio 25 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:12,000 drama, come on down and I'll tell you about my experiences. 26 00:02:12,860 --> 00:02:16,244 Awesome. That is January 17th 27 00:02:16,516 --> 00:02:19,340 17th. Tickets at poduty.com P 28 00:02:19,340 --> 00:02:23,180 O-D-U-T-Y.com and you're also a showrunner for 29 00:02:23,180 --> 00:02:26,700 a podcast. Tell us a little about the show. So my podcast is called Fate 30 00:02:26,700 --> 00:02:30,420 of Korr. It is an audio drama. It is a fantasy set in a 31 00:02:30,420 --> 00:02:33,820 pseudo 1910s world, but it kind of has like 32 00:02:33,820 --> 00:02:37,460 fantasy creatures in it. So basically imagine like Lord of the 33 00:02:37,460 --> 00:02:41,270 Rings, but all the characters, time is like fast forwarded to like 34 00:02:41,430 --> 00:02:45,190 the 1910s kind of vibe. And it's like a different world. So it's not exactly 35 00:02:45,190 --> 00:02:48,990 Tolkien's world, but it takes some of those same creatures and puts them in the 36 00:02:48,990 --> 00:02:52,230 political sphere. That was like kind of going on in the 1910s, 37 00:02:52,230 --> 00:02:56,029 particularly in Russia, but it's not set in our Russia. It's 38 00:02:56,029 --> 00:02:59,590 kind of set in the pseudo what if world. And it's pretty 39 00:02:59,590 --> 00:03:03,230 fun. A couple of my friends have even said there's like this like little 40 00:03:03,230 --> 00:03:06,470 father son journey going on there. Too. So if you're into 41 00:03:06,710 --> 00:03:10,470 family kind of stories, there's a little bit 42 00:03:10,470 --> 00:03:13,110 of that, but there's a lot of factions and magic and 43 00:03:14,070 --> 00:03:17,830 I, I really, really think it's a good show and I hope 44 00:03:17,830 --> 00:03:21,110 you guys subscribe and listen to it. Fate of Korr, is that correct? 45 00:03:21,510 --> 00:03:25,110 Korr spelled K-O-R-R. R, A double R. So 46 00:03:25,510 --> 00:03:29,190 O-R-R. And is there a website or do you just recommend finding it 47 00:03:29,190 --> 00:03:32,630 on itunes? You can find it on iTunes, YouTube, Spotify, 48 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:37,320 I believe we have a transistor site but you can find 49 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,720 it easily on YouTube from Beta Core and on 50 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:44,520 wherever you find podcasts. Awesome. And season one has wrapped is 51 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:48,160 there. So we are going to be republishing, 52 00:03:49,039 --> 00:03:51,920 resuming, publishing episode eight of season one 53 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:56,280 early next year. So we're currently working through that. But the first 54 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,930 part of season one is out from for episodes one through seven and 55 00:03:59,930 --> 00:04:03,370 currently I'm drafting season two which 56 00:04:04,330 --> 00:04:06,810 see where things are left off in season one, which 57 00:04:08,090 --> 00:04:11,850 will be left off on a 14 episode basis. Then 58 00:04:11,850 --> 00:04:15,530 you'll know like I don't want to spoil anything. 59 00:04:15,530 --> 00:04:18,650 That's why I'm kind of being hesitant because it hasn't even been released yet. 60 00:04:19,210 --> 00:04:22,490 Well, that will have all the links and a description in the show notes. So 61 00:04:22,490 --> 00:04:25,650 when you're, when you, you know, go through these six stories. We're gonna go through 62 00:04:25,650 --> 00:04:29,270 six stories coming up. I'm going to have Jessica's bio links to connect with 63 00:04:29,270 --> 00:04:33,030 Jessica links to fate of core. So find all those links in the 64 00:04:33,030 --> 00:04:36,830 show notes. Are you ready for our first story? 65 00:04:37,150 --> 00:04:40,870 I am ready. We have Radiolab 66 00:04:40,870 --> 00:04:44,270 took science live in Little Rock and this happened on December 67 00:04:44,270 --> 00:04:48,030 11th. Radiolab headed to the Ron Robinson Theater for a 68 00:04:48,030 --> 00:04:51,750 sold out live recording that doubled as a major fundraiser 69 00:04:51,750 --> 00:04:55,110 for Little Rock Public Radio. The event, part of 70 00:04:55,110 --> 00:04:58,830 Radiolab Presents Vascara, focused on the urgent 71 00:04:58,830 --> 00:05:02,510 and very human science behind antibiotic resistant 72 00:05:02,510 --> 00:05:06,350 bacteria blending immersive sound design with expert 73 00:05:06,350 --> 00:05:10,030 conversation. Led by host Soren Wheeler and Dr. 74 00:05:10,030 --> 00:05:13,750 Aver Mitra, joined on stage by leading voices 75 00:05:13,750 --> 00:05:17,390 from epidemiology and agriculture, the show brought 76 00:05:17,390 --> 00:05:20,990 together researchers, medical professionals, students and public 77 00:05:21,470 --> 00:05:24,880 radio supporters for an evening that proved live 78 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:28,400 podcasting can tackle complex topics while driving 79 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:32,080 real community support. Complete with a silent auction, 80 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:35,680 VIP reception and a clear reminder that live 81 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:39,240 audio storytelling can educate, engage and 82 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:42,840 fund public media all at once. Now it's so obvious 83 00:05:42,840 --> 00:05:46,600 after meeting Jessica, everybody watching at home, why I chose this 84 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,730 as the first article. And you even mentioned, I think when we were talking earlier 85 00:05:49,730 --> 00:05:53,450 how much Radio Lab was influential, how much you love listening to Radio lab. 86 00:05:53,450 --> 00:05:56,930 Exactly. Like. Like, around the time I was getting in the podcast, I was also 87 00:05:56,930 --> 00:06:00,770 seeing the Radiolab, like, very heavily, like, because at the time, I was working as 88 00:06:00,770 --> 00:06:04,569 a temp, filing and, like, scanning documents, so it was like something 89 00:06:04,569 --> 00:06:08,250 I could listen to while I'm going. And I really like Radiolab because, like, 90 00:06:08,250 --> 00:06:12,010 even though it is very much a talk show versus a, like, audio drama, 91 00:06:12,410 --> 00:06:16,090 they use Foley. They use audio and sound design to 92 00:06:16,090 --> 00:06:19,540 tell their stories and kind of, like, talk about, like, what 93 00:06:19,620 --> 00:06:23,380 their concepts are. Like, I remember there was this particular one where they used, like, 94 00:06:23,700 --> 00:06:27,420 these singers kind of, like, to represent, like, what 95 00:06:27,420 --> 00:06:31,180 biodiversity is. And, like, they were, like, using the notes and 96 00:06:31,180 --> 00:06:34,900 describing, like, here's this whole cacophony of sound in this music. 97 00:06:34,979 --> 00:06:38,100 But as biodiversity, like, got more and more, like, 98 00:06:38,100 --> 00:06:41,940 restricted, less and less sound, and then it became quiet. And, like, 99 00:06:41,940 --> 00:06:45,580 that is a very powerful way to use audio to explain a scientific 100 00:06:45,580 --> 00:06:49,350 concept. And after I. When I first met Jessica, she 101 00:06:49,350 --> 00:06:52,870 was telling me about audio dramas, and it wasn't really a world I was 102 00:06:52,870 --> 00:06:56,350 familiar with. And you start telling me all these great stories and sharing these great 103 00:06:56,350 --> 00:06:59,870 podcasts with me, and then when I see a story like this about 104 00:07:00,430 --> 00:07:04,190 all the things that Jessica's working on, you can take to a live 105 00:07:04,190 --> 00:07:07,950 environment. You can do a live show with sound effects, 106 00:07:07,950 --> 00:07:11,150 with Foley, with this great storytelling, 107 00:07:11,630 --> 00:07:15,420 and have this immersive event for the spectators to. To really, 108 00:07:15,420 --> 00:07:18,940 you know, be pulled into that story. And. And I didn't even know this 109 00:07:18,940 --> 00:07:22,340 existed until we had connected. And it's just a whole new world of 110 00:07:22,340 --> 00:07:25,220 podcasting. Oh, yeah, no, 100%. It's a very, like, 111 00:07:25,940 --> 00:07:29,780 interesting. Like, I've seen a couple podcast live shows. Of course. 112 00:07:29,780 --> 00:07:33,500 I've seen the. The juggernaut of welcome the Night Bill. I saw that in Seattle 113 00:07:33,500 --> 00:07:37,180 when I went to podcon back in. Oh, I think that was. 114 00:07:37,180 --> 00:07:40,980 Was that 2000. That might have been 2016. I had to double check because they. 115 00:07:41,090 --> 00:07:44,370 Podcon only went for, like, two years, and then they kind of fell off. 116 00:07:45,810 --> 00:07:49,490 But I remember going to the live show 117 00:07:49,490 --> 00:07:53,050 of, like, welcome the Night Vale that they had there, and, like, it was a 118 00:07:53,050 --> 00:07:56,290 very much like the. The. 119 00:07:57,250 --> 00:08:00,850 The speaker, Cecil Palmer, was, like, talking to the audience, but, like, there was, like, 120 00:08:00,850 --> 00:08:03,730 stuff going on in the background and a lot of, like, talking back and forth. 121 00:08:04,450 --> 00:08:08,250 It kind of had, like, a similar setup to. Have you ever heard of Prairie 122 00:08:08,250 --> 00:08:12,090 Home Companion? No. Yeah, so that's something that NPR did 123 00:08:12,090 --> 00:08:15,910 for. And it was a. I would consider it an 124 00:08:15,910 --> 00:08:19,670 audio drama talk show where it was, like, this panel of 125 00:08:19,670 --> 00:08:23,390 People talking. That was like a long time ago when I saw it. So 126 00:08:23,390 --> 00:08:26,710 I'm kind of talking a little out of my depth here. But like they would 127 00:08:26,710 --> 00:08:30,270 be performing and talking about the world and the 128 00:08:30,270 --> 00:08:34,070 story as if they were like a radio program hosts and 129 00:08:34,070 --> 00:08:37,910 just discussing their world together. So a big part of 130 00:08:37,910 --> 00:08:41,720 that I took away from this is what I think can be a live podcast 131 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:45,880 is expanded. It certainly goes into the world 132 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:49,240 where Jessica's creating content and you're able to 133 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:53,280 really have the old time, almost like before television, before 134 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,680 radio, have this storytelling, close your eyes and 135 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:00,640 pretend that you're in this world, this environment and do all that. 136 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:04,440 And there's podcasts out there that are doing it on a recorded level. But I 137 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:08,120 think the next level is can you perform those in front of an audience. 138 00:09:08,950 --> 00:09:12,070 This really just one of those things that just opens your mind to the possibilities. 139 00:09:12,310 --> 00:09:15,670 Exactly. And there's like table reads and also a lot of 140 00:09:15,830 --> 00:09:19,510 the audio drama field does overlap into the video 141 00:09:19,510 --> 00:09:23,270 gaming live show aspect as well, because there's a lot 142 00:09:23,270 --> 00:09:27,070 of TTRPGs that use live shows as 143 00:09:27,070 --> 00:09:30,430 a way to show the story. And like a lot of the characters will dress 144 00:09:30,430 --> 00:09:33,310 up, a lot of the actors will dress up as their characters that they're playing 145 00:09:33,310 --> 00:09:36,950 as to kind of add to the app atmosphere while 146 00:09:36,950 --> 00:09:40,070 they're playing. And we talk about, you know, showing the story. 147 00:09:40,550 --> 00:09:44,310 We go to our next story. We've got 148 00:09:44,550 --> 00:09:47,830 Netflix committing to video 149 00:09:47,990 --> 00:09:51,110 podcasts. What is going on here? Let's see if we can find out. 150 00:09:51,509 --> 00:09:55,350 I. Yeah, well, we'll look at this. I know when I was 151 00:09:55,350 --> 00:09:59,110 reading this story before coming onto the Poduty and the News, like I was 152 00:09:59,110 --> 00:10:02,910 mixed about this, honestly, but like, I'll let you. Say what your 153 00:10:02,910 --> 00:10:06,490 piece, yeah, Netflix eyes video podcast to take 154 00:10:06,490 --> 00:10:10,170 on YouTube. Another point of contention for some podcasters. 155 00:10:10,250 --> 00:10:14,010 Netflix revealed plans to aggressively enter the video podcast 156 00:10:14,010 --> 00:10:17,450 space in early 2026, telling potential 157 00:10:17,450 --> 00:10:21,050 partners it wanted 50 to 75 shows ready at launch, 158 00:10:21,450 --> 00:10:25,050 with ambitions to scale to as many as 200 over time. 159 00:10:25,690 --> 00:10:29,490 According to reports, Netflix had already begun approaching major talent 160 00:10:29,490 --> 00:10:32,970 agencies, podcast networks and creators to license existing 161 00:10:32,970 --> 00:10:36,540 shows and develop originals across genres like 162 00:10:36,780 --> 00:10:40,420 comedy, sports, true crime and pop culture. The 163 00:10:40,420 --> 00:10:43,940 move positioned Netflix directly against YouTube, now the 164 00:10:43,940 --> 00:10:47,540 leading platform for podcast consumption, and 165 00:10:47,540 --> 00:10:51,300 followed a deal with Spotify to carry popular shows like the Bill 166 00:10:51,300 --> 00:10:55,060 Simmons podcast. While Netflix dangled competitive licensing 167 00:10:55,060 --> 00:10:58,140 offers and major marketing support, it's 168 00:10:58,380 --> 00:11:02,010 insistence that creators remove video from YouTube versions from 169 00:11:02,010 --> 00:11:05,490 YouTube raise questions about data access, audience 170 00:11:05,490 --> 00:11:09,250 ownership, ad formats, and whether podcasters would 171 00:11:09,250 --> 00:11:13,090 trade long term platform control for Short term 172 00:11:13,090 --> 00:11:16,890 exclusivity. So my mixed feelings on this 173 00:11:16,890 --> 00:11:20,570 is like, so if you're a creator and you're approached by Netflix, like, 174 00:11:20,650 --> 00:11:24,010 the deal and the money is probably going to be a lot more 175 00:11:24,170 --> 00:11:27,850 fruitful because, like, a lot of times when, like, you're approached by a bigger studio, 176 00:11:28,010 --> 00:11:30,700 you get the money and that's kind of going to help you produce, do so 177 00:11:30,700 --> 00:11:34,460 I can kind of see why this might be appealing. But as also 178 00:11:34,540 --> 00:11:37,500 somebody that, like, is an independent podcaster, 179 00:11:37,980 --> 00:11:41,500 knowing that there might be a loss of control because now that person 180 00:11:41,580 --> 00:11:44,700 has a say in what you are creating. 181 00:11:45,260 --> 00:11:48,340 So it kind of creates a little bit of a too many cooks in the 182 00:11:48,340 --> 00:11:51,740 kitchen situation. So, like. But I can see why people would find 183 00:11:51,740 --> 00:11:55,540 attractive the other issue that the article doesn't cover. 184 00:11:55,540 --> 00:11:59,170 That was the first thing I thought about when I listened to this. If this 185 00:11:59,170 --> 00:12:02,970 tanks because they don't market it well, or people don't understand 186 00:12:03,050 --> 00:12:06,090 why they're moving to podcasts, this might 187 00:12:06,730 --> 00:12:10,450 make it harder to do something like this again for other. For other groups 188 00:12:10,450 --> 00:12:14,250 that are, like, in the business of podcasting, because someone's gonna be like, well, 189 00:12:14,250 --> 00:12:17,690 Netflix tried that. It didn't work. It's like, it didn't work because they didn't do 190 00:12:17,690 --> 00:12:21,410 it right and they didn't understand what they were getting into. So I'm 191 00:12:21,410 --> 00:12:25,090 a little. I'm looking at this article with trepidation because it could either work 192 00:12:25,090 --> 00:12:28,530 out really well or it could become something that's going to 193 00:12:29,170 --> 00:12:32,770 turn out bad for everybody else if it fails, because it's going to not 194 00:12:32,770 --> 00:12:36,330 look. So that's where I'm kind of standing with what I read here. Yeah. For 195 00:12:36,330 --> 00:12:40,130 Netflix, it's advantageous for them to go after podcasting. I'm 196 00:12:40,130 --> 00:12:43,850 sure the cost to produce one episode of Stranger Things is millions 197 00:12:43,850 --> 00:12:47,090 of dollars. Oh, yeah. The cost to produce one episode of the Bill 198 00:12:47,250 --> 00:12:50,770 Simmons show might be $100,000. Exactly. And that's a big 199 00:12:50,770 --> 00:12:54,610 positive to podcasting. It has that low barrier to entry and you can produce 200 00:12:54,610 --> 00:12:57,410 and it's like, really, it's accessible to people 201 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:02,120 across all genres, across all, like, walks of life. If you're 202 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:05,640 in rural Pennsylvania, you can, like, create a 203 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:08,720 podcast that can create a following and create, like, 204 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:13,000 inspiration in your. Your audience and stuff. But, 205 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:16,560 like, and, like, I don't know, I felt very 206 00:13:16,560 --> 00:13:20,080 mixed when I was reading this because I saw, like, also the ad revenue going 207 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:23,360 away because, like, that's how a lot of people make their money. So they don't 208 00:13:23,710 --> 00:13:27,110 have that ad revenue and they're waiting on the bill from 209 00:13:27,110 --> 00:13:30,870 Netflix. There's just like a lot of moving pieces that I'm curious to see what 210 00:13:30,870 --> 00:13:34,630 will happen. Yeah, and I get the exclusive deals and I get what you're 211 00:13:34,630 --> 00:13:38,350 saying. If somebody offered us money for duty and the News to be on 212 00:13:38,350 --> 00:13:42,190 Netflix, it's probably going to be a better deal for me to take that 213 00:13:42,190 --> 00:13:45,070 than to not take it. So it's hard to turn that kind of money down, 214 00:13:45,470 --> 00:13:49,230 which I get. Where I have issue with this is, you know, podcasting 215 00:13:49,230 --> 00:13:52,470 is an open format. I can listen to it on the device I want. I 216 00:13:52,470 --> 00:13:56,270 can stream it. Whether on itunes, whether on Pocket Cast or, 217 00:13:56,270 --> 00:13:59,990 you know, whatever app I'm using, these sites want 218 00:13:59,990 --> 00:14:03,590 to lock down the content. And to me, that's not in the 219 00:14:03,590 --> 00:14:07,390 spirit of podcasting. That's not distribution like I would expect from 220 00:14:07,390 --> 00:14:10,990 podcasting. And I get their pay money. They want return on that, 221 00:14:11,230 --> 00:14:14,750 but they should also still, they could still release that on 222 00:14:14,750 --> 00:14:18,590 Spotify and branded as a Netflix show. There's a couple 223 00:14:18,590 --> 00:14:22,030 of ways they could approach this that could avoid that problem. 224 00:14:22,190 --> 00:14:25,530 Like, I know on YouTube, there's a lot of creators that 225 00:14:25,690 --> 00:14:29,250 produce like censored versions on YouTube but then have uncensored 226 00:14:29,250 --> 00:14:32,850 versions on platforms like Nebula. So they, they have two 227 00:14:32,850 --> 00:14:36,250 versions. So they could do something like that where they have the censored 228 00:14:36,250 --> 00:14:39,810 version on YouTube but then carry it over to Netflix, the non 229 00:14:39,810 --> 00:14:43,610 censored version. But the other issue that, to go to 230 00:14:43,610 --> 00:14:47,370 what you're saying, like the free access, there was a group called 231 00:14:47,370 --> 00:14:50,810 Watcher that launched their streaming service too early 232 00:14:51,260 --> 00:14:55,020 and it caused a lot of pushback with their fans. So if a lot of 233 00:14:55,020 --> 00:14:58,660 these podcasts have already been on the air for free, they might get 234 00:14:58,660 --> 00:15:02,300 pushback from their fans who are used to that because now they have to buy 235 00:15:02,300 --> 00:15:06,020 Netflix to listen to the shows. Yeah, I have a beef 236 00:15:06,020 --> 00:15:09,540 with Amazon over that. I used to get Amazon prime with no ads. Now I 237 00:15:09,540 --> 00:15:12,940 got to pay $3 a month to get rid of the ads. So you're right. 238 00:15:12,940 --> 00:15:16,780 If, if I am used to a certain way, if you built a relationship with 239 00:15:16,780 --> 00:15:20,480 me by delivering content in exchange for, you know, I'll listen to your 240 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:23,680 ads, but I'm not, I'm not going to pay for the content. That's the arrangement 241 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,720 that we have. When you turn that around, say, oh, now you have to subscribe 242 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:30,040 to Netflix to listen to the show, that becomes a problem. 243 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,559 Exactly. And that, that's part of one of the reasons why I'm watching with trepidation 244 00:15:33,559 --> 00:15:37,080 as well, because I, we don't know how the audience is going to react, 245 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:40,720 and hopefully not to the detriment. You mentioned you're 246 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:44,530 watching, but do you know who's watching us? It's the 247 00:15:44,530 --> 00:15:48,330 UFOs. When Ufology met remote 248 00:15:48,330 --> 00:15:51,810 viewing live on stage this special 249 00:15:51,810 --> 00:15:55,210 episode was recorded live during the International Remote Viewing 250 00:15:55,210 --> 00:15:58,970 association conference where hosts Kelly and Jay sat down 251 00:15:58,970 --> 00:16:02,610 for an intimate fireside style conversation exploring the 252 00:16:02,610 --> 00:16:05,970 intersection of ufology, psi, 253 00:16:06,290 --> 00:16:10,140 I don't even know the phenomena. Psychological 254 00:16:10,370 --> 00:16:13,730 psi phenomenon, psi phenomena and remote viewing. 255 00:16:13,970 --> 00:16:17,570 Bringing together two communities that rarely share the same stage, the 256 00:16:17,570 --> 00:16:20,850 discussion examined how both disciplines challenge 257 00:16:20,850 --> 00:16:24,090 consensus reality and push deeper questions about 258 00:16:24,090 --> 00:16:27,730 perception and consciousness. Rather than focusing 259 00:16:27,730 --> 00:16:30,930 solely on external phenomena, the conversation 260 00:16:31,090 --> 00:16:34,210 turned inward, touching on imagination, 261 00:16:34,610 --> 00:16:37,970 creative integrity and anonymous storytelling. 262 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:42,280 And the idea that remote viewing may be 263 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:46,280 one of the most grounded ways to approach the unknown. That was a 264 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:49,920 tough one for me to get through, but I did it. And 265 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:52,760 this is one of those examples that we love to give on this show. This 266 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:56,520 is not necessarily something that I would think about. I don't 267 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,640 think about UFOs or remote viewing all that often, 268 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,480 but if that's what you're interested in, guess what? 269 00:17:03,810 --> 00:17:06,770 There's opportunity to see events like that live. 270 00:17:07,490 --> 00:17:11,290 They're on a nice stage, they had some nice production. Jessica was complimenting them on 271 00:17:11,290 --> 00:17:15,130 their, their production value and they're able to get in front of a group of 272 00:17:15,130 --> 00:17:18,810 people who love remote viewing UFOs and, 273 00:17:18,810 --> 00:17:22,450 and share some of their experiences, their stories and just 274 00:17:22,610 --> 00:17:26,450 kind of bring that community together. Exactly. And like I like when I 275 00:17:26,450 --> 00:17:30,130 was like doing my pre research for today's newscast because 276 00:17:30,300 --> 00:17:32,900 I like to like look at things before I sit down so I can get 277 00:17:32,900 --> 00:17:36,100 settled and comforting. I didn't even realize this was about UFOs until I was like 278 00:17:36,100 --> 00:17:39,820 10 minutes. I was like, wait a second, what? Like that is like how 279 00:17:39,820 --> 00:17:43,460 well the production value and how professional it was and like 280 00:17:43,460 --> 00:17:47,140 it kind of like kept me watching a little bit longer than I would 281 00:17:47,140 --> 00:17:50,420 have because of the fact that they were able to produce it in like an 282 00:17:50,420 --> 00:17:54,100 environment. I wasn't normally used to hearing those 283 00:17:54,100 --> 00:17:57,850 kind of stories. So like, it does matter to like be 284 00:17:57,850 --> 00:18:01,010 able to have a space to talk and a platform to talk more than just 285 00:18:01,650 --> 00:18:05,090 where you were currently at. Although if you are currently at a similar 286 00:18:05,090 --> 00:18:08,810 stage, like welcome. We 287 00:18:08,810 --> 00:18:12,290 see you if you're watching us from afar. 288 00:18:12,290 --> 00:18:15,930 Yes, yeah, we do. We stream on Facebook, LinkedIn 289 00:18:15,930 --> 00:18:19,570 and free through remote viewing. Yes, 290 00:18:20,050 --> 00:18:23,490 but again, just a great way to bring a community together. 291 00:18:23,650 --> 00:18:27,260 It's simple. And I love the wood paneling. It's like they're in a lodge 292 00:18:27,260 --> 00:18:31,100 environment and it's just cozy and comfy, like a safe space. 293 00:18:31,100 --> 00:18:34,540 They can talk about what they love, what they're interested in, and they're going to 294 00:18:34,540 --> 00:18:38,180 meet people who have the same ideas, maybe the same experiences, and 295 00:18:38,420 --> 00:18:42,140 just congratulations on putting a show together and being able 296 00:18:42,140 --> 00:18:45,100 to record it and share it with the world. Exactly. And like, as I said, 297 00:18:45,100 --> 00:18:47,940 they, like, they definitely had their presentation together, 298 00:18:48,740 --> 00:18:52,030 which was impressive. But yeah, 299 00:18:52,590 --> 00:18:56,390 oh, we're going back in time. Not 1910s in pseudo 300 00:18:56,390 --> 00:18:58,670 Russia, but we're going to 301 00:18:59,950 --> 00:19:03,510 Victorian history got naughty. Oh. Live on 302 00:19:03,510 --> 00:19:06,910 stage on December 12, 2025, 303 00:19:07,150 --> 00:19:10,990 a special holiday edition of Bowery Boys Podcast dropped into 304 00:19:10,990 --> 00:19:14,630 podcast feeds after being recorded live at City 305 00:19:14,630 --> 00:19:18,320 Winery as Bowery Boys History Live. Hosted 306 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:22,160 by Greg Young, the hot Victorian holiday show leaned 307 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:25,960 into a looser, more irrelevant live format than the standard 308 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:29,680 podcast, blending history, humor and onstage visuals 309 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:33,520 with unmistakable Bridgerton era flair. Featuring an 310 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:36,280 all star lineup of historians and creators, including 311 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:40,080 Aaron Radford Whatley, author of Hot 312 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:43,690 Victorians Meet yout Dream man from the past, the performance 313 00:19:43,850 --> 00:19:47,370 showed how history podcasts can thrive as a live variety 314 00:19:47,370 --> 00:19:51,050 show, then seamlessly transition into evergreen podcast 315 00:19:51,050 --> 00:19:54,490 episodes packed with personality comedy and 316 00:19:54,570 --> 00:19:58,290 festive storytelling. This had to be a blast to be 317 00:19:58,290 --> 00:20:01,850 in the audience and watch them bring this history to life and 318 00:20:03,450 --> 00:20:07,130 pair people together. Like, who would you have dated in the Victorian era? 319 00:20:07,130 --> 00:20:10,570 No, exactly. And this is kind of a fun thing. As 320 00:20:10,570 --> 00:20:14,220 somebody who, I mean, I wrote something that's pseudo set in 321 00:20:14,220 --> 00:20:17,860 pseudo Russia and I've like read a couple books in order to inform my mind 322 00:20:17,860 --> 00:20:21,300 of the tone. But like, I'm also. Two of my best friends 323 00:20:21,460 --> 00:20:24,820 are history buffs. One of them is an ex history major. 324 00:20:25,540 --> 00:20:29,100 History comes up all the time. And these conversations that these guys talked about is 325 00:20:29,100 --> 00:20:31,540 just like, this is why history majors are fun. 326 00:20:33,380 --> 00:20:35,940 Make yourself from history major friends. You won't regret it. 327 00:20:37,060 --> 00:20:40,820 And they do reference the live performance was a little bit different of 328 00:20:40,820 --> 00:20:44,620 a variation than the regularly recorded podcast. So, you know, they're creating 329 00:20:44,620 --> 00:20:48,420 this event where they're bringing their fans together and they're 330 00:20:48,420 --> 00:20:51,780 performing live, you know, on a whim. Whatever happens, happens. It's live. 331 00:20:52,260 --> 00:20:55,980 We're gonna act this out and just have a good time. Exactly. You can 332 00:20:55,980 --> 00:20:59,140 see some of that camaraderie as well. Like whenever you're on the live stage and 333 00:20:59,140 --> 00:21:02,500 you invite your audience to take part in your personal 334 00:21:03,060 --> 00:21:06,620 journey and your personal episodes, it's like you see the person's 335 00:21:06,620 --> 00:21:10,470 reactions. Like if you're listening to a podcast from home, that's great. You can 336 00:21:10,470 --> 00:21:13,670 imagine what the interactions are. But sometimes it's fun to be like, oh, my God, 337 00:21:13,670 --> 00:21:16,910 he gave him a shoulder bump. That's cool. Or like, oh, my God, I felt 338 00:21:16,910 --> 00:21:20,350 like I saw that look between them. There's something more to that statement than I 339 00:21:20,350 --> 00:21:24,150 realized. And live environments can bring that. Yeah. Well, 340 00:21:24,150 --> 00:21:27,390 I always joke at home. If you're listening to a podcast at home and you've 341 00:21:27,390 --> 00:21:31,190 never seen the host or the guests, and you probably picture yourself in 342 00:21:31,190 --> 00:21:35,030 the room, maybe you picture the host, you picture the guest, and you think 343 00:21:35,270 --> 00:21:38,910 what they look like based off of how they sound. And you're never 344 00:21:38,910 --> 00:21:42,550 right. Oh. As somebody who's listening to a lot of audio dramas, 345 00:21:42,550 --> 00:21:46,350 and a lot of audio dramas have, like, news based formats or even 346 00:21:46,350 --> 00:21:49,990 narration based. It's so funny to, like, see people do fan art 347 00:21:49,990 --> 00:21:53,790 of the protagonist. It's usually the narrator. And just like, they don't even look 348 00:21:53,790 --> 00:21:57,230 the same. Like, they don't even look the same at all. Like, with Cecil 349 00:21:57,230 --> 00:22:00,870 Palmer. Like, a lot of the people drew Cecil Palmer as, like, this 350 00:22:00,870 --> 00:22:04,530 blind. Not blind, this blonde guy with glasses and, 351 00:22:04,530 --> 00:22:08,130 like, in like, a purple waistcoat. Whereas the actual Cecil 352 00:22:08,130 --> 00:22:11,850 Palmer is, like, white, but he doesn't have any hair and he has, like, blue 353 00:22:11,850 --> 00:22:15,530 eyes. And he doesn't always wear glasses. He sometimes does, but it's just like, 354 00:22:15,530 --> 00:22:18,930 funny being like, you can see, like, what people thought they saw versus, like, what 355 00:22:18,930 --> 00:22:22,410 the actual person looks like. Yeah. And like you referenced, when you're there in the 356 00:22:22,410 --> 00:22:25,970 live environment, you can see how the host reacts in real 357 00:22:25,970 --> 00:22:29,810 time, how they react with questions, how they make eye contact with the audience, how 358 00:22:29,810 --> 00:22:33,310 they engage the audience. Yeah, you don't get any of that from a recorded show, 359 00:22:33,550 --> 00:22:37,070 but you get a whole nother level of. If you're a fan of a podcast, 360 00:22:37,150 --> 00:22:40,670 you get this whole new look at who these people are and 361 00:22:40,750 --> 00:22:44,430 shake hands with them, thank them for, you know, creating the podcast. Well, 362 00:22:44,430 --> 00:22:48,030 it's just a great way to connect that you don't get from an MP3 file. 363 00:22:48,030 --> 00:22:51,710 Exactly. And like, it kind of like bridges that gap between, like, theater 364 00:22:51,710 --> 00:22:55,510 and, like, stand up. Not always stand up comedy, but there's like a format for 365 00:22:55,510 --> 00:22:59,010 stand up comedy that, like, usually a lot of these live shows 366 00:22:59,170 --> 00:23:03,010 mimic because it's like, person, Mike and you in the audience. But it's like, 367 00:23:03,010 --> 00:23:06,410 there's that element of theater with, like, the lights and the presentation. Yeah. One thing 368 00:23:06,410 --> 00:23:09,850 that I like to say in, you know, the model that I built here for 369 00:23:09,850 --> 00:23:13,650 this podcast, it's very similar to a comedy club. It's not Much a stage, there's 370 00:23:13,650 --> 00:23:17,250 chairs, people perform, people react. Right. Yeah, it's not different. 371 00:23:17,490 --> 00:23:21,050 But a comedian is mostly very protective of their 372 00:23:21,050 --> 00:23:24,370 content. They're. They're performing it over and over in different 373 00:23:24,370 --> 00:23:28,180 iterations, they're working on different things. But that content may be 374 00:23:28,180 --> 00:23:31,700 seen multiple times in multiple stages. When you go to a live 375 00:23:31,700 --> 00:23:35,300 podcast, and this is a great, you will never see this 376 00:23:35,300 --> 00:23:38,860 performance again. So when you were there for that recording, 377 00:23:39,180 --> 00:23:42,860 when you took in that show, that's the only time 378 00:23:42,940 --> 00:23:46,780 in the history of the world that that show will happen. So that's why live 379 00:23:46,780 --> 00:23:50,220 podcasting is so much more unique than comedy 380 00:23:50,300 --> 00:23:53,500 and music, because the musicians play the same songs in every town. 381 00:23:54,110 --> 00:23:57,830 Podcasts, when you see a podcast episode live, they can't record 382 00:23:57,830 --> 00:24:01,630 that episode live again next week. That. That episode's done. Exactly. 383 00:24:01,630 --> 00:24:05,150 They've already discussed it. You get one chance and to be there in that 384 00:24:05,150 --> 00:24:08,870 moment and experience what they're performing, it's. It's 385 00:24:08,870 --> 00:24:12,430 unlike any other industry out there. Exactly. And like, it's 386 00:24:12,830 --> 00:24:16,590 very, it's very good to have moments that you can say like, I saw this 387 00:24:16,670 --> 00:24:20,260 and this particular moment I, I can like live with, which is, 388 00:24:20,820 --> 00:24:24,500 I could compare it to a couple 389 00:24:25,060 --> 00:24:28,260 theater productions that I've been to, but I 390 00:24:28,900 --> 00:24:32,580 feel like I wouldn't quite do that justice. So I, and I feel like 391 00:24:32,820 --> 00:24:36,580 the next one can like also talk to this 392 00:24:37,380 --> 00:24:41,140 ability to see it once live because there's people even bringing it to the broader 393 00:24:41,140 --> 00:24:44,420 stage. Well, musicians, comedians. Yeah, 394 00:24:44,660 --> 00:24:48,480 they fill up arenas and stadiums. Why 395 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:52,240 not podcast? How about this one? Look at the picture for this 396 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,680 one. A podcast turned Christmas into a stadium 397 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,920 size give back. On December 19, the German 398 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,720 podcast fest Enflow, I guess marked a decade 399 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:06,320 of its annual Christmas circus with a record breaking 400 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:10,080 live charity event fest and flaush. They're going to make me say this 401 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,070 a couple of times. Flashing live 10 von 10 402 00:25:13,470 --> 00:25:16,190 anniversary Christmas with Jan and Ollie 403 00:25:16,830 --> 00:25:20,110 celebrated by Spotify. The sold out show drew more than 404 00:25:20,110 --> 00:25:23,830 12,000 fans to Barclays arena, raising 405 00:25:23,830 --> 00:25:27,190 over 1.1 million for charitable causes with 406 00:25:27,190 --> 00:25:30,830 donations continuing into January 2026. 407 00:25:31,390 --> 00:25:35,110 Hosted by Jan Bonnerman and Ollie 408 00:25:35,110 --> 00:25:38,830 Schultz, the night blended comedy, music, surprise 409 00:25:38,830 --> 00:25:42,550 guests and live performances, proving that podcasts, when 410 00:25:42,550 --> 00:25:46,350 taken to the arena scale, can rival traditional 411 00:25:46,350 --> 00:25:49,310 benefit concerts in both impact and 412 00:25:49,310 --> 00:25:52,590 generosity. And two things here. One, 413 00:25:53,310 --> 00:25:56,830 here's a podcast doing good. This is a fundraising event. 414 00:25:56,990 --> 00:26:00,710 Exactly. Exactly. And two, look at the scale at 415 00:26:00,710 --> 00:26:04,390 which they're doing it at. Would you have thought 10 years ago doing a 416 00:26:04,390 --> 00:26:08,150 podcast and you're your basement or your home Studio that it could grow 417 00:26:08,550 --> 00:26:12,390 to be something like this where you're doing a charity event for the community, 418 00:26:12,790 --> 00:26:16,470 you're bringing the community together, and you raise 1.1 million. 419 00:26:17,590 --> 00:26:21,229 Yeah, these. These kind of events are like, this 420 00:26:21,229 --> 00:26:24,830 is like, definitely breaking new ground for this type of medium 421 00:26:24,830 --> 00:26:28,630 because, like, I never would have thought about this myself if I was 422 00:26:28,630 --> 00:26:31,920 back in 2012 getting into podcasts. 423 00:26:32,310 --> 00:26:35,670 And I have seen a lot of these 424 00:26:35,830 --> 00:26:39,670 stadium type works done for, like, TTR TBG podcasts, where, like, the 425 00:26:39,670 --> 00:26:43,150 audience will come to see them play, like a video. Like, not a video game, 426 00:26:43,150 --> 00:26:46,670 but a board board game. And, like, they bring in lots of people and they 427 00:26:46,670 --> 00:26:49,830 have, like, as you can see in the picture here, like, they have bigger screens 428 00:26:49,830 --> 00:26:52,990 for people that are in the back that need to see what's going on. Like, 429 00:26:52,990 --> 00:26:56,710 there's a lot of different, like, acoustics. Like, it's definitely a different experience. 430 00:26:56,710 --> 00:27:00,560 I think it's good to see more of that because it exposes people to 431 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,920 different mediums and it kind of breaks and 432 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:08,240 redefines what you can do as a performance. Yeah, 433 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:12,000 podcasting, pushing the boundaries, that's the core of our belief here. 434 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,840 And this is just next level on every scale. We've done 435 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,640 stories about podcasts that have done fundraisers. We've done stories about 436 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,720 podcasts who have filled arenas and theaters and 437 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,920 auditoriums. But be able to put together a 438 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,640 fundraiser with an arena show for the holiday season. 439 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:34,360 Everybody's in a good mood. It's Christmas time. We're having a good time and we're 440 00:27:34,360 --> 00:27:38,000 doing good. Like, we're giving back more than we're taking in this case. 441 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,520 And I love that, you know, podcasters who do it for the passion, 442 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:45,440 these people probably love being on stage. They love seeing their fans, 443 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:49,200 they love doing this event for the community. And I just think it's a 444 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,890 win. Win all around. Yeah, exactly. As you can see, like, they have 445 00:27:52,890 --> 00:27:56,730 some time to, like, put some set decorations to kind of set the tone. And 446 00:27:56,730 --> 00:28:00,370 it's like, there's a lot of this is. There's a lot that 447 00:28:00,370 --> 00:28:04,090 this type of medium can bring back to the audience. Not only just the 448 00:28:04,090 --> 00:28:07,690 reaction of the host, but kind of like this is what the host envisions 449 00:28:07,690 --> 00:28:11,250 whenever they are in their element and it's bringing it to you. 450 00:28:11,490 --> 00:28:14,690 I don't know if anybody can tell watching at home or watching the replay on 451 00:28:14,690 --> 00:28:18,390 the video, but I modeled this stage after that. So, I 452 00:28:18,390 --> 00:28:22,230 mean, it should look the same. Our stage is decorated just like 453 00:28:22,230 --> 00:28:25,030 their stage. It's pretty close. Yeah, no, exactly. 454 00:28:26,230 --> 00:28:29,910 And our last Story tonight. We don't always do live podcast stories, 455 00:28:30,470 --> 00:28:33,669 but this one has the potential to have a great live 456 00:28:34,470 --> 00:28:38,270 presence in their school, in the community. And this is. School districts 457 00:28:38,270 --> 00:28:41,750 are finding their voice on the mic, and I'll talk about my 458 00:28:41,750 --> 00:28:45,300 perspective and where I think the future of the story is. North 459 00:28:45,300 --> 00:28:48,500 Olmsted City Schools recently launched a new podcast, 460 00:28:48,820 --> 00:28:52,300 Voices of the Nest, using the medium as a way to spotlight 461 00:28:52,300 --> 00:28:55,580 positive stories across the district. Co hosted by 462 00:28:55,580 --> 00:28:58,780 superintendent Chris Caleris and communications 463 00:28:58,780 --> 00:29:02,580 coordinator Amy Rutledge, the show was designed as 464 00:29:02,580 --> 00:29:06,020 a short monthly podcast, about 15 minutes per episode, 465 00:29:06,340 --> 00:29:09,940 featuring staff, students, coaches, events, 466 00:29:09,940 --> 00:29:13,360 and community members. The debut episode highlighted North 467 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,720 Olmsted High School boys basketball coach Matt Joseph 468 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,520 and focused on the district's core values, signaling that the 469 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,760 podcast isn't about announcements, but about connection. 470 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,840 Built to grow organically and serve its local audience, the show 471 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,440 reflects a broader trend of schools and public 472 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:35,040 institutions using podcasting as a modern storytelling 473 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,720 tool rather than a traditional broadcast channel. 474 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,340 And, you know, they're hitting every single note of 475 00:29:42,340 --> 00:29:45,860 the foundation that will build great live community 476 00:29:45,860 --> 00:29:49,220 events. Think of how this podcast is 10 months from now, 477 00:29:49,460 --> 00:29:53,300 or as the juniors become the seniors and they're into their second year, 478 00:29:53,780 --> 00:29:57,620 and there's a fair, there's a community event. You know, 479 00:29:57,620 --> 00:30:01,140 pierogi day at the local parish. You know, those are 480 00:30:01,140 --> 00:30:04,900 places where the community's getting introduced to the people 481 00:30:04,900 --> 00:30:08,620 of the school district, to the members of the community. This is 482 00:30:08,620 --> 00:30:11,940 the groundwork for building live shows in that area. 483 00:30:12,340 --> 00:30:16,100 And as this thing grows and becomes more immersed in 484 00:30:16,100 --> 00:30:19,780 the community, imagine how it'll be at the festivals and the fairs when. 485 00:30:19,860 --> 00:30:23,500 Hey. Our main event tonight is the North Olmsted City 486 00:30:23,500 --> 00:30:25,620 Schools podcast with Superintendent 487 00:30:27,060 --> 00:30:30,900 Chris. No, 100%. And I. Because this can kind 488 00:30:30,900 --> 00:30:34,180 of be, like, a way to bring the community together. And like. 489 00:30:34,740 --> 00:30:37,940 So I have, like, a couple layers to this one. Like, the first layer is, 490 00:30:37,940 --> 00:30:41,580 like, a lot of schools, like, in especially rural 491 00:30:41,580 --> 00:30:45,420 communities, the school is the lifeblood. And what, like, 492 00:30:45,420 --> 00:30:48,820 pumps the community up. Like, everybody goes to the high school football games. Like, it 493 00:30:48,820 --> 00:30:52,500 is the. It is what keeps the community together because they're gathering together to make 494 00:30:52,500 --> 00:30:56,260 sure the next generation is taken care of. So my school that I 495 00:30:56,260 --> 00:30:59,780 grew up in, because I grew up in rural Pennsylvania, had, like, a morning 496 00:30:59,780 --> 00:31:03,580 news program that they would put on, and they. So this reminded me 497 00:31:03,580 --> 00:31:07,160 of that kind of program a little bit like it. The students involved in exploring 498 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,600 media. But the other thing this reminded me of, there's 499 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:14,240 NPR does a feature where they have contests for the students 500 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:18,320 to submit, and then they'll publish their show live on npr. 501 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,800 So it also has a way to engage their community in, like, telling 502 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:26,080 not only their local stories, but maybe, like, what are some stories that 503 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,680 Joe in Class A wants to share with the world? And, like, 504 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,980 they can do, like, featurettes and stuff to express that. 505 00:31:34,380 --> 00:31:37,380 Yeah, that's a great NPR program. It comes up every once in a while, I 506 00:31:37,380 --> 00:31:40,740 think we did a story about it. And when it comes up, you know kids 507 00:31:40,740 --> 00:31:43,660 from all over the country. And here you have a group, a. 508 00:31:44,700 --> 00:31:48,220 What do they call it? Not a committee. Whenever you join a. 509 00:31:48,700 --> 00:31:52,300 Something at school. Yeah, like a. I guess a club or a fun. You join 510 00:31:52,300 --> 00:31:56,060 a club. Podcast club. So they're building, like, a podcast club. Each 511 00:31:56,060 --> 00:31:59,660 of those kids, theoretically, are getting this experience, getting the 512 00:31:59,660 --> 00:32:03,220 skill set, and they could be able to enter that. This. 513 00:32:03,220 --> 00:32:06,860 This school might have four or five finalists on that NPR 514 00:32:06,860 --> 00:32:09,940 contest. Yeah, you could build it that way. Like, you could sit there and say, 515 00:32:09,940 --> 00:32:12,980 like, hey, like, if you're a part of this club, some of the stories you 516 00:32:12,980 --> 00:32:15,820 feature, we're going to have a committee vote on which ones we're going to submit 517 00:32:15,820 --> 00:32:19,340 to npr. So then that way, like, because I do 518 00:32:19,340 --> 00:32:22,980 stuff on the. During the year called the 48 Hour Film Festival. So a lot. 519 00:32:22,980 --> 00:32:26,780 Some groups will even organize that, where they have a group of writers 520 00:32:26,940 --> 00:32:30,510 write the script for the 48 Hour Film Festival, and then they 521 00:32:30,510 --> 00:32:34,150 choose from that group, and then that's the film they produce versus some other groups. 522 00:32:34,150 --> 00:32:37,830 It's like one script, one thing, one production. So 523 00:32:37,830 --> 00:32:41,670 it's, It's. It's another way to get those stories and more diverse stories 524 00:32:41,670 --> 00:32:45,230 and give people more of a chance to like, share themselves rather 525 00:32:45,230 --> 00:32:49,030 than that one shot. Yeah, we've had a couple stories back 526 00:32:49,030 --> 00:32:52,670 to back weeks about schools, universities, building these podcast 527 00:32:52,670 --> 00:32:56,340 clubs, building podcasts internally. If it's something that your school is 528 00:32:56,340 --> 00:33:00,100 thinking of, explore it. See if you can find a sponsor, a teacher, a 529 00:33:00,100 --> 00:33:03,860 professor who will sponsor the club and get this started. Because the 530 00:33:03,860 --> 00:33:07,700 skills that you'll learn, even though this is a high school, those kids 531 00:33:07,700 --> 00:33:10,860 have to be there. That's the law. You got to go to school. But if 532 00:33:10,860 --> 00:33:14,460 they join this club, they're getting a skill set that they 533 00:33:14,460 --> 00:33:18,060 wouldn't get for years. They wouldn't get. 534 00:33:18,300 --> 00:33:21,750 They're accelerating their public speaking. They're accelerating being 535 00:33:21,750 --> 00:33:25,310 comfortable talking on the microphone in front of an audience. Those are 536 00:33:25,310 --> 00:33:28,910 skills that will carry with you throughout your life. And if you have that club 537 00:33:28,910 --> 00:33:32,430 or if you have an opportunity like this, jump on it, take advantage of it. 538 00:33:32,590 --> 00:33:36,110 You will be better long term. I promise you. These 539 00:33:36,110 --> 00:33:39,910 skill sets come back and assist you 540 00:33:39,910 --> 00:33:43,390 in ways that you never would have guessed. Exactly. And even if, like, you 541 00:33:43,550 --> 00:33:47,270 don't necessarily, like, learn those skills, when you're in 542 00:33:47,270 --> 00:33:51,060 there, it's exposing you to the ideas so that when you are ready 543 00:33:51,060 --> 00:33:54,820 to learn those skills, you're already that first wall is down because 544 00:33:54,820 --> 00:33:58,660 you've gotten yourself comfortable with the medium and 545 00:33:58,660 --> 00:34:02,340 the idea. Because sometimes you need to get comfortable with the idea 546 00:34:02,340 --> 00:34:05,380 before you even get to that next step. So it's always beneficial, even in the 547 00:34:05,380 --> 00:34:09,140 small ways. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you to the school district. For those 548 00:34:09,140 --> 00:34:12,900 of you who are putting it on, this is a great story to share in 549 00:34:12,900 --> 00:34:16,500 the future. I'm trying to reach out to these schools ahead of time and try 550 00:34:16,500 --> 00:34:20,100 to, like, book little interview vignettes for the show. So. Vignettes, 551 00:34:20,100 --> 00:34:23,900 vignettes, vignettes for the show. So hopefully in the future I'll be 552 00:34:23,900 --> 00:34:27,500 able to, like, hey, let's go to Chris at the superintendent and let's get, why 553 00:34:27,500 --> 00:34:31,100 did he start this? And then we'll play Chris's video. But all the 554 00:34:31,100 --> 00:34:34,340 stories, all the links are in the show notes, including 555 00:34:34,500 --> 00:34:38,020 links to Jessica Sutton and the Fate of Korr with two 556 00:34:38,020 --> 00:34:41,820 Rs. Jessica, one last time, tell people how they can connect with 557 00:34:41,820 --> 00:34:45,270 you or listen. To your podcast so you can find the Fate of Korr on 558 00:34:45,270 --> 00:34:48,430 YouTube or wherever you subscribe to podcasts. We're also on 559 00:34:48,430 --> 00:34:52,270 transistor and just type Fate of Korr K O 560 00:34:52,270 --> 00:34:56,110 R R and tune in. Listen, and when you're there, please leave a 561 00:34:56,110 --> 00:34:59,070 comment. I want to know what you think of the story. My team has done 562 00:34:59,070 --> 00:35:02,590 a lot of great work and I'm proud of every single member. And if there's 563 00:35:02,590 --> 00:35:05,710 a particular member that you want to give a compliment to, please leave it in 564 00:35:05,710 --> 00:35:09,510 the comments. I always tell them about their compliments. Awesome. All 565 00:35:09,510 --> 00:35:12,640 those links along with our stories will be in the show notes. 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No, it's great. And like, also, like, as somebody 594 00:36:55,410 --> 00:36:59,010 that does audio drama, that's the same thing whenever you're doing in person. Recording versus 595 00:36:59,010 --> 00:37:02,830 remote. Both can work for productions, but, like, in person, it 596 00:37:02,830 --> 00:37:06,550 just. There's a groundedness that you don't normally get. And that's why live 597 00:37:06,550 --> 00:37:10,390 events are important, too, because there's a groundedness you don't always get when you're 598 00:37:10,390 --> 00:37:13,590 just listening to it in your car, even though both experiences are valid. 599 00:37:14,150 --> 00:37:17,190 So that means I only have one more question for you, Jessica. All right, 600 00:37:18,950 --> 00:37:22,150 what's the question? What time is. Is 601 00:37:23,110 --> 00:37:26,070 10:37. 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