1 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:17,520 Welcome Back to episode 39 of Working Towards Our 2 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:21,360 Purpose and got another episode for you today. 3 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,600 Want to talk about me actually quitting? 4 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,960 But first I want to thank everybody for the 5 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:33,740 positive feedback on the first episode. It was helpful and 6 00:00:33,820 --> 00:00:37,540 encouraging to me because like I alluded to in the first 7 00:00:37,540 --> 00:00:39,900 episode, these are kind of unedited and 8 00:00:41,180 --> 00:00:44,780 you know, well, they are unedited and just completely raw. So 9 00:00:45,100 --> 00:00:47,260 I did listen back to a little bit of it and I heard a lot 10 00:00:47,260 --> 00:00:50,940 of ums. So I will try to get better with that as time 11 00:00:50,940 --> 00:00:54,620 goes on. But I just did one. 12 00:00:56,700 --> 00:01:00,500 But anyways, yeah, I want to thank you for the support and then also 13 00:01:00,500 --> 00:01:04,340 for the support of my single that came out about a week 14 00:01:04,340 --> 00:01:08,060 ago. And I think that the topic of 15 00:01:08,060 --> 00:01:10,660 the last episode of being more 16 00:01:11,780 --> 00:01:15,140 sort of upfront with what I'm doing and sharing it 17 00:01:15,860 --> 00:01:19,700 has actually led to some results. And I 18 00:01:19,700 --> 00:01:23,140 think, you know, out of the six singles that I've released this year, 19 00:01:23,460 --> 00:01:27,100 that one had the most listened. So kind of an obvious thing, 20 00:01:27,100 --> 00:01:30,520 but I think a difficult thing to do 21 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:34,400 when you're trying to share something that you created and you can 22 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:38,120 feel a little self conscious about it or, you know, maybe feel like 23 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:41,160 you're not good enough. So I do appreciate all that. And if you haven't listened 24 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:45,000 to it, I'll leave the link in the show notes for this episode. 25 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:49,720 But little update. I have quit since the 26 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:53,520 last episode. I did put in my two weeks and I have a handful 27 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:56,850 of days left. So I 28 00:01:57,890 --> 00:02:01,490 did want to talk a little bit about the process of that because it was 29 00:02:01,490 --> 00:02:05,290 still difficult and it was still hard and I knew that 30 00:02:05,290 --> 00:02:08,610 it was something that I needed to do and I wanted to do. 31 00:02:08,930 --> 00:02:12,690 But it's still just always difficult to quit something 32 00:02:12,690 --> 00:02:16,490 and to sort of make it permanent. Because once 33 00:02:16,490 --> 00:02:20,090 you send your two weeks or once you say you're quitting, you can't really take 34 00:02:20,090 --> 00:02:23,890 that back. So it's kind of the ultimate test of 35 00:02:24,710 --> 00:02:28,230 your decision and what you're believing in. So 36 00:02:29,270 --> 00:02:32,950 to take you back, I think it was two weeks ago 37 00:02:32,950 --> 00:02:36,710 at this point, Friday or something, I don't know, not important. But 38 00:02:36,790 --> 00:02:40,230 I log in in the morning and I request for a meeting 39 00:02:40,389 --> 00:02:44,230 from two of my superiors. And I 40 00:02:44,230 --> 00:02:47,870 waited all day to get a response and nobody 41 00:02:47,870 --> 00:02:51,570 responded to me. And I was kind of getting worried 42 00:02:51,570 --> 00:02:54,570 and being like, oh, maybe I should just do it another week or maybe I 43 00:02:54,570 --> 00:02:58,410 should postpone it. But I didn't do that 44 00:02:58,730 --> 00:03:02,250 and instead I quit via email, which 45 00:03:02,410 --> 00:03:06,130 I didn't really want to do, but I kind of had 46 00:03:06,130 --> 00:03:09,930 no other option because my day was coming to an end 47 00:03:09,930 --> 00:03:13,730 and I hadn't heard any response. So that was the only way 48 00:03:13,730 --> 00:03:17,410 that I saw was the possibility of me putting in my two 49 00:03:17,410 --> 00:03:20,780 weeks. Um, and it was on a Friday. And I was 50 00:03:21,500 --> 00:03:25,100 kind of worried about it all weekend because, you know, you say 51 00:03:25,100 --> 00:03:28,900 something, you, you quit your job, you change, you 52 00:03:28,900 --> 00:03:32,620 know how you're going to move forward, and then there's just no reaction. And 53 00:03:32,780 --> 00:03:36,420 I don't know, you know, what their response is or if they were upset or 54 00:03:36,420 --> 00:03:40,220 not upset. And none of that should care, but. Or none of that 55 00:03:40,220 --> 00:03:43,740 should matter. But I did care. I didn't want to. 56 00:03:45,690 --> 00:03:49,530 I don't know, I guess it's just always sort of maybe old people 57 00:03:49,610 --> 00:03:53,330 pleasing tendencies, but you don't want to make anybody, like, upset 58 00:03:53,330 --> 00:03:57,170 or like, mad at what you're doing. And I think part 59 00:03:57,170 --> 00:04:00,970 of me was looking for a little bit of the approval of, you know, it's 60 00:04:00,970 --> 00:04:04,730 okay that you're doing that. Not sure, but either way, 61 00:04:04,810 --> 00:04:07,290 I went through the whole weekend kind of nervous to log in on Monday. 62 00:04:08,570 --> 00:04:11,960 And then when I did finally log in on Monday, all this 63 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:15,560 anticipation had built and I was like, really not looking forward to 64 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:19,360 it. And I log in and the email that 65 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,880 I sent wasn't even responded to. And I just got a simple DM that said 66 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:26,480 like, or a simple IM that said like, 67 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:30,000 thanks for all your hard work, we look forward to a smooth 68 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:33,200 transition, or something like that. And I was like, oh, all right. Well, 69 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:37,320 that wasn't that bad. So it just kind of this 70 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:40,900 thing, I guess I built up all weekend. Oh, and I left 71 00:04:40,900 --> 00:04:44,740 one crucial detail out of quitting. So I 72 00:04:44,740 --> 00:04:48,500 said that I sent an IM to try to set 73 00:04:48,500 --> 00:04:52,180 up a meeting. Well, when I first logged in, I was like, really 74 00:04:52,180 --> 00:04:55,819 nervous and I had the IM typed and it took me like an hour and 75 00:04:55,819 --> 00:04:59,500 a half to actually send it. And again, this is something I 76 00:04:59,500 --> 00:05:03,340 knew I wanted to do and I was ready to do 77 00:05:03,340 --> 00:05:06,380 it. But it was just so hard to click the IM because 78 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,800 I guess that felt like the turning point. Like, once I click that I ask 79 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,840 for a meeting, then there's no turning back. And 80 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:18,200 so I was literally just like sitting, staring at my computer, 81 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:21,360 like, thinking through, yes, this is what I want to do, 82 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:26,640 just trying to convince myself. And I was kind of like pacing 83 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:30,440 and going into the other room and stuff. And I 84 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:34,050 remember, like, sort of like vaguely asking 85 00:05:34,050 --> 00:05:37,490 for like a sign from the universe or something like that, but then just like 86 00:05:37,490 --> 00:05:41,290 forgetting about it. And then literally, like five minutes later, my 87 00:05:41,530 --> 00:05:45,370 close friend Texted me and was like, hey, like, how's it going? 88 00:05:45,450 --> 00:05:49,210 Are you doing it today? And then to me, that was like, oh, 89 00:05:49,210 --> 00:05:52,930 there's that. Like, okay, this is the right direction. I need to be doing 90 00:05:52,930 --> 00:05:56,250 this. And then as soon as I got that text, I clicked it and sent 91 00:05:56,250 --> 00:05:59,930 the IM and proceeded to not hear back for the rest of the day. 92 00:06:01,430 --> 00:06:05,270 But I don't know, it was a little bit of. I 93 00:06:05,270 --> 00:06:08,950 think that was important because I sort of asked for 94 00:06:09,590 --> 00:06:12,710 something and then got something 95 00:06:13,750 --> 00:06:17,030 as a sign or an indication 96 00:06:17,990 --> 00:06:20,950 that I was moving in the right direction. I do believe 97 00:06:21,510 --> 00:06:24,710 that there's lots of signs out there, and 98 00:06:25,190 --> 00:06:28,910 if you can kind of tune into your intuition, I think there's. 99 00:06:28,910 --> 00:06:31,990 There's always these kind of subtle things that kind of can point you in the 100 00:06:31,990 --> 00:06:35,030 right direction. Um, but I did just want to say that because I think that 101 00:06:35,350 --> 00:06:39,150 that was pretty. It seems almost, like, silly at this point now to talk about 102 00:06:39,150 --> 00:06:42,630 it, but in the moment when it was happening and I was, like, super nervous, 103 00:06:43,510 --> 00:06:46,870 I sort of, like, put that out there and then got a text. And, like, 104 00:06:46,870 --> 00:06:50,550 it was very prominent that, like, I was making the right decision. So 105 00:06:51,030 --> 00:06:54,680 it gave me a lot of ease to be able to, like, actually go through 106 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:58,440 with the quitting. Um, and, yeah, hopefully that wasn't all 107 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:02,200 over the place, but. And you followed that. But I also did want to 108 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:06,040 talk about, like, previous quittings that I've had. Um, I've 109 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:09,760 gone through a couple quits, I guess, in my career. 110 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:14,320 Um, notably, the biggest ones were at my 111 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:18,240 engineering jobs. My first big engineering job. 112 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:22,820 I remember I wanted to quit because, again, I just. I felt like 113 00:07:22,820 --> 00:07:26,660 I wasn't really being valued. I was more so, like, 114 00:07:26,660 --> 00:07:29,620 kind of bitter at that time. And I, like, I wanted to stick it to 115 00:07:29,620 --> 00:07:33,420 my boss and, like, you know, the sort of I'm going to leave and 116 00:07:33,420 --> 00:07:37,220 they're not going to know what to do sort of attitude. And when 117 00:07:37,220 --> 00:07:40,820 I did actually quit, I learned, like, a really big lesson in 118 00:07:40,820 --> 00:07:44,300 that. And, like, I went to go to my boss office, 119 00:07:44,460 --> 00:07:47,890 I sat down at his desk, I gave him my. This little letter I typed 120 00:07:47,890 --> 00:07:51,530 up, and there was just, like, no response from him. He was just like, 121 00:07:51,530 --> 00:07:55,290 okay, great. And I think 122 00:07:55,290 --> 00:07:58,970 that was very disappointing for me because I 123 00:07:58,970 --> 00:08:02,770 wanted him to, you know, be, like, upset 124 00:08:02,930 --> 00:08:06,290 that I was leaving or something. And, 125 00:08:06,610 --> 00:08:10,330 yeah, it just kind of was not what I was looking for. 126 00:08:10,330 --> 00:08:14,130 But then I kind of learned the lesson of, um, you 127 00:08:14,130 --> 00:08:17,890 can't be quitting to, like, you know, get back at 128 00:08:17,890 --> 00:08:21,610 somebody who didn't treat you well or to make them sort 129 00:08:21,610 --> 00:08:25,130 of like uncomfortable because it's not, it's not going to work like that. Especially with 130 00:08:25,130 --> 00:08:28,810 a big corporation where, you know, they could just fill you 131 00:08:28,810 --> 00:08:31,450 in with another person who's graduating from college. 132 00:08:32,410 --> 00:08:35,210 It wasn't really something that like, probably 133 00:08:36,170 --> 00:08:39,749 cared to him at all. And, you know, just bigger picture, I 134 00:08:39,749 --> 00:08:43,469 shouldn't be acting based off of how I want others to feel. 135 00:08:44,669 --> 00:08:48,029 So luckily for me, I was quitting also for myself. But 136 00:08:48,829 --> 00:08:52,109 that was kind of eye opening that it's never really fun to quit. It's never 137 00:08:52,109 --> 00:08:55,749 really a good feeling. I don't think, at least in my 138 00:08:55,749 --> 00:08:58,829 experience. I've never quit and then felt 139 00:08:59,949 --> 00:09:03,309 good as far as getting back. 140 00:09:04,269 --> 00:09:07,820 I felt good as far as me moving forward and the direction that I meant 141 00:09:07,820 --> 00:09:11,180 to, but not so much as far as like getting back at someone. And I 142 00:09:11,180 --> 00:09:13,980 don't think that's like ever a really good reason to quit. 143 00:09:14,940 --> 00:09:18,740 But the second quit, bigger quit that I had was the 144 00:09:18,740 --> 00:09:22,300 second engineering firm that I worked at. And this was during COVID And 145 00:09:22,860 --> 00:09:26,540 I didn't know how to quit at all because we were working from 146 00:09:26,540 --> 00:09:30,220 home and now it's normal. But like, 147 00:09:30,220 --> 00:09:34,020 at that point I had never, like quit virtually before and I, like, hadn't seen 148 00:09:34,020 --> 00:09:37,670 my boss in months. And I remember 149 00:09:38,070 --> 00:09:41,190 also sending him an IM and being like, hey, can you. Can I call you 150 00:09:41,190 --> 00:09:44,790 real quick about something? And that was super nerve 151 00:09:44,790 --> 00:09:48,430 wracking. I remember like, literally like shaking my hands were 152 00:09:48,430 --> 00:09:52,230 shaking a little bit because I was like so nervous to quit. But 153 00:09:52,230 --> 00:09:55,110 in that instance, it was actually kind of a really nice, 154 00:09:56,070 --> 00:09:59,830 A nice quit because he was very receptive and he was supportive. 155 00:10:00,390 --> 00:10:03,430 And I really did not expect that from him because 156 00:10:04,150 --> 00:10:07,310 I kind of like put him in a box of like, who he was as 157 00:10:07,310 --> 00:10:10,710 a person and just thought he wouldn't understand. And 158 00:10:11,110 --> 00:10:14,310 I was quitting to like go pursue a business and stuff. And I thought he 159 00:10:14,790 --> 00:10:18,430 would have negative, you know, input for that, but. But he was actually really 160 00:10:18,430 --> 00:10:22,030 positive and supportive and. And that was really kind 161 00:10:22,030 --> 00:10:25,430 of surprising to me at the time. But 162 00:10:26,150 --> 00:10:29,910 yeah, just. And again, similar to the quit that I just had. 163 00:10:29,910 --> 00:10:33,130 It was like just complete non. 164 00:10:35,850 --> 00:10:39,450 What's the word? Just like non engaging 165 00:10:39,610 --> 00:10:43,130 that I feel like it's just been like kind of ignored 166 00:10:43,210 --> 00:10:46,929 and acting like maybe it's not happening or something, which is 167 00:10:46,929 --> 00:10:50,250 strange to me. But nonetheless 168 00:10:50,570 --> 00:10:54,090 quitting for my own reasons and not to 169 00:10:54,250 --> 00:10:56,410 get back anybody or anything like that. 170 00:10:58,010 --> 00:11:01,610 Let me just plug my computer in. It's dying. Okay. 171 00:11:03,610 --> 00:11:07,330 So, yeah, I think the moral of 172 00:11:07,330 --> 00:11:10,890 the story is that it's never for me, it's never been 173 00:11:10,890 --> 00:11:14,650 easy to quit or never been fun to quit because I 174 00:11:14,650 --> 00:11:17,610 guess you're always kind of putting somebody at an inconvenience they have to fill your 175 00:11:17,610 --> 00:11:19,290 position and this and that. But 176 00:11:21,770 --> 00:11:25,540 no matter what the reasons are, I think the most important thing is 177 00:11:25,940 --> 00:11:29,660 following the thing that you believe 178 00:11:29,660 --> 00:11:33,260 in and what you think is best for you. And I think it can be 179 00:11:33,260 --> 00:11:36,940 really easy to get stuck in a job. I think this job that I just 180 00:11:36,940 --> 00:11:40,740 quit, I was probably doing for too long after I knew that I 181 00:11:40,740 --> 00:11:44,100 didn't really need to be there 182 00:11:44,420 --> 00:11:48,220 or want to be there or wasn't being helpful for me in my life 183 00:11:48,220 --> 00:11:51,840 anymore. So, yeah, it's never 184 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:55,200 really easy to quit. And I think that's why it always 185 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:59,280 seems like such a daunting task. And I've known people 186 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:04,120 that I've worked with in the past that just felt like they couldn't make 187 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:07,680 a change at all because they had been there for so long. And 188 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:11,040 I think that's a part of it, too. Like, the longer that you're there, the 189 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:14,560 more it's within your routine, and it seems like it's 190 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:17,850 harder to make a change. But 191 00:12:18,890 --> 00:12:20,890 I don't know. Not sure where I'm going with that. But. 192 00:12:23,050 --> 00:12:25,930 So, yeah, the next thing that I want to talk about, too, is, like, I 193 00:12:25,930 --> 00:12:29,650 was thinking about, like, well, what allowed me to quit this time? Like, what did 194 00:12:29,650 --> 00:12:33,410 I do to make myself quit or to 195 00:12:33,410 --> 00:12:37,090 realize that I did want to quit? And I think it had a lot to 196 00:12:37,090 --> 00:12:40,730 do with the three books that I was reading at the time. And 197 00:12:40,810 --> 00:12:44,510 I was reading these. These three books kind of about various 198 00:12:44,510 --> 00:12:48,350 different topics. The first one here is by an author, Graham 199 00:12:48,350 --> 00:12:52,150 Cochran. It's called Rebel Find Yourself by Not following the 200 00:12:52,150 --> 00:12:55,630 Crowd. And that was a really 201 00:12:56,510 --> 00:12:58,830 great book as far as, like, 202 00:13:00,350 --> 00:13:03,870 talking about, like, not doing things just to kind of fit in with society 203 00:13:04,270 --> 00:13:07,990 and thinking about what it is that you actually want in your 204 00:13:07,990 --> 00:13:11,690 life and how you want to live your life and how to make that 205 00:13:11,690 --> 00:13:15,130 happen. And he had a lot of kind of quick 206 00:13:15,130 --> 00:13:18,850 exercises at the end of the chapter to try to, like, think about 207 00:13:19,010 --> 00:13:22,730 your future life and how you want to be living it. And it 208 00:13:22,730 --> 00:13:26,450 was really helpful for me to, alongside these other two books, to 209 00:13:26,450 --> 00:13:30,170 really know, like, for sure that I 210 00:13:30,170 --> 00:13:32,930 didn't want to be doing this anymore and I need to make a change now. 211 00:13:34,290 --> 00:13:36,610 The second book was the Artist's Way, which is 212 00:13:38,110 --> 00:13:41,710 a book about creativity and how you can get 213 00:13:41,710 --> 00:13:44,910 back to your creativity if you're someone who was 214 00:13:44,910 --> 00:13:48,430 creative. Maybe when you were younger and kind of decided 215 00:13:48,590 --> 00:13:52,390 that artistic endeavors weren't important or maybe they 216 00:13:52,390 --> 00:13:56,030 don't pay you. So you kind of stopped doing them. And it was 217 00:13:56,030 --> 00:13:59,750 really, it's kind of a like a set UP 218 00:13:59,750 --> 00:14:02,870 as a 12 week program. You're supposed to like read a chapter a week for 219 00:14:02,870 --> 00:14:06,640 12 weeks and by the end of it you're supposed to sort of be 220 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:10,400 transformed into thinking of yourself as an artist again 221 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:13,920 and being able to do creative things. And 222 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,920 there's a lot of exercises in that book too. I did not do all of 223 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:21,640 them, but the ones that I did do were 224 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:25,440 super helpful. And there was two sort of 225 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:29,760 exercises that, that I'm going to continue to keep doing. 226 00:14:31,310 --> 00:14:34,550 One of them is called Morning Pages, which is kind of just journaling when you 227 00:14:34,550 --> 00:14:38,230 get up to kind of get everything out of your head and all the negativity 228 00:14:38,230 --> 00:14:42,030 out of your head and to start to hear what your 229 00:14:42,030 --> 00:14:45,230 subconscious is saying by just. 230 00:14:45,710 --> 00:14:48,830 They basically want you to write three full pages every morning, 231 00:14:49,550 --> 00:14:53,350 which is a lot handwriting. But I found 232 00:14:53,350 --> 00:14:56,950 it really helpful to like get through the negative stuff and 233 00:14:56,950 --> 00:15:00,800 like discard all the stuff that's negative and not helpful. And then to 234 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:04,640 start to think about like, well, what do I want? Or what are these 235 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:07,400 inklings that I maybe ignore a lot of the times. 236 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:11,960 So that is been really helpful as far as like thinking about 237 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:15,600 how I wanted to quit and you know, I would like be a 238 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:18,360 page in and then I would start to think about like well what, what is 239 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:21,920 it that I want to do? What do I want to use with my energy 240 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:25,760 and time? And is this job that I'm working now supportive 241 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:29,180 of that or not? Um, so it, it was really helpful in that. 242 00:15:29,500 --> 00:15:33,100 Um, and then the other helpful thing was 243 00:15:33,660 --> 00:15:37,300 called the artist date, which is basically like you take 244 00:15:37,300 --> 00:15:41,100 yourself on a date somewhere once a week and kind of just allow yourself to 245 00:15:41,100 --> 00:15:44,940 be playful and like free 246 00:15:45,180 --> 00:15:48,620 and to, you know, the, the point of it is to try to like 247 00:15:49,260 --> 00:15:51,900 allow yourself to have fun and be 248 00:15:53,190 --> 00:15:56,950 enjoying of the moment. So then you can be used to doing 249 00:15:56,950 --> 00:16:00,710 that. Because I think, well, you know, as Julia the author says, 250 00:16:01,750 --> 00:16:05,510 yeah, the Artist Ways is by Julia Cameron and 251 00:16:06,150 --> 00:16:09,190 she mentioned that like a lot of times you just don't even think that like 252 00:16:09,190 --> 00:16:13,030 you can kind of deserve that. So just taking like a 253 00:16:13,030 --> 00:16:15,550 short and it doesn't have to be like a restaurant or anything, it could just 254 00:16:15,550 --> 00:16:19,150 be like in the park, something that's free, a coffee 255 00:16:19,150 --> 00:16:22,830 shop, but, but going and kind of like having some time for 256 00:16:22,830 --> 00:16:26,590 yourself to really again bring out who you are as 257 00:16:26,590 --> 00:16:29,270 A person and where you want to go and spend your time and energy. 258 00:16:30,230 --> 00:16:33,990 And then the last book, which was like, life changing 259 00:16:33,990 --> 00:16:37,830 for me almost. And I don't mean to 260 00:16:37,830 --> 00:16:41,230 sound dramatic, but it was like, a really awesome book for me. It's called the 261 00:16:41,230 --> 00:16:44,310 Big Leap by Gay Hendricks. And 262 00:16:45,030 --> 00:16:48,230 there's just some really powerful ideas in there 263 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:53,480 that I won't talk about. All the ones in this episode, I 264 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:55,880 think I'll probably have specific episodes on those topics. 265 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:00,520 But yeah, it was a really, really good book about, like, 266 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:04,240 envisioning who I am as a person, who I 267 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:08,080 want to be, what I'm good at, what I want to 268 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:11,480 be contributing to society and to others, and 269 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,600 how I can use my talents and 270 00:17:15,419 --> 00:17:19,179 excel in that instead of, like, fighting against the things that 271 00:17:20,299 --> 00:17:23,499 maybe I think I should be doing. So in combination 272 00:17:24,219 --> 00:17:27,499 to. To bring all those three books together, I was reading them all at once 273 00:17:27,499 --> 00:17:31,019 and kind of doing these exercises and thinking about, like, what I want to be 274 00:17:31,019 --> 00:17:34,299 doing. And it kind of gave me this 275 00:17:34,299 --> 00:17:37,739 idea or path or direction of 276 00:17:38,059 --> 00:17:41,780 what I want to be doing and where I 277 00:17:41,780 --> 00:17:44,300 want to go and who I want to help. And 278 00:17:45,340 --> 00:17:49,100 slowly but surely I'm kind of like forming this idea and I'm not going to 279 00:17:49,820 --> 00:17:52,540 share at this second, but. 280 00:17:54,700 --> 00:17:57,100 Well, maybe I will. What the heck? I think 281 00:17:59,500 --> 00:18:02,940 articulating it and talking about it probably will help to formulize. To 282 00:18:02,940 --> 00:18:06,700 formula. Formula. Formulate. That's the word, Formulate 283 00:18:06,700 --> 00:18:10,360 it a little bit better. But, yeah, I think 284 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:15,000 finding my past experiences and 285 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,840 the things that maybe I'm good at and being 286 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,880 creative and thinking about how I want to 287 00:18:22,360 --> 00:18:26,160 work in the future and how I want to help people. I 288 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:29,960 think the direction that I'm moving in is kind of the idea of 289 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:32,440 this podcast really is to 290 00:18:34,450 --> 00:18:38,210 help people move in a direction 291 00:18:38,290 --> 00:18:41,810 that they're kind of called to or are meant to do, or, 292 00:18:41,970 --> 00:18:44,930 you know, their purpose in life 293 00:18:46,130 --> 00:18:49,970 and to think about, like, basically helping a previous 294 00:18:49,970 --> 00:18:53,530 version of myself. Like when I was in my 295 00:18:53,530 --> 00:18:57,210 engineering career, I was just confused and I had this feeling of I 296 00:18:57,210 --> 00:19:00,170 wanted to do more, but I didn't know what to do with it and I 297 00:19:00,170 --> 00:19:02,730 didn't know what it meant. And I was just 298 00:19:03,930 --> 00:19:07,730 really frustrated all the time. And then I found this business 299 00:19:07,730 --> 00:19:11,290 idea and I put everything into that and it didn't quite work out. 300 00:19:11,370 --> 00:19:15,050 And just a lot of learning lessons along the way. And I think that, like, 301 00:19:15,050 --> 00:19:17,770 if I. If I were to, like, choose who I want to help, I want 302 00:19:17,770 --> 00:19:20,890 to help people who are in that situation where they're 303 00:19:21,210 --> 00:19:24,930 confused, but they want more, but they aren't quite sure how to get 304 00:19:24,930 --> 00:19:28,610 there. I think I want to help people to be able to live in 305 00:19:28,610 --> 00:19:32,210 their purpose, because to me, that's purposeful. If I can 306 00:19:32,450 --> 00:19:36,250 help somebody do what they're meant to do. And I think that just has, 307 00:19:36,250 --> 00:19:39,970 like, a butterfly effect on positively impacting the world. 308 00:19:40,050 --> 00:19:42,770 And I think positivity is a big thing for me, like, 309 00:19:43,970 --> 00:19:47,249 trying not to play into negativity and creating 310 00:19:47,249 --> 00:19:51,090 positivity and encouragement and, yeah, I don't 311 00:19:51,090 --> 00:19:54,930 know, I think moving in that direction. Not quite 312 00:19:54,930 --> 00:19:57,970 sure how that's going to work out as far as, like, 313 00:19:58,420 --> 00:20:01,540 logistically or, like, how to monetize or whatever. 314 00:20:02,580 --> 00:20:05,580 I guess coaching is, like, the first thing that comes to mind, but I kind 315 00:20:05,580 --> 00:20:08,980 of have a weird feeling about that word, coaching, 316 00:20:09,780 --> 00:20:12,780 because I don't think that, like, I know better than anybody, but I would like 317 00:20:12,780 --> 00:20:16,540 to be able to encourage people to believe in themselves. That's. That's, like, the thing 318 00:20:16,540 --> 00:20:20,020 that I want to do. So not quite sure 319 00:20:20,020 --> 00:20:22,180 what that is yet, but 320 00:20:24,350 --> 00:20:27,470 investing into learning more about 321 00:20:28,350 --> 00:20:31,830 these topics and reading these kinds of books and investing into this 322 00:20:31,830 --> 00:20:35,470 podcast. I have committed, or yeah, I guess I have committed to 323 00:20:36,750 --> 00:20:40,350 releasing an episode a week and just fully investing into 324 00:20:40,350 --> 00:20:42,910 that and seeing where it goes. And, 325 00:20:44,190 --> 00:20:47,390 yeah, if that made any sense, if you're still following along with me, 326 00:20:48,910 --> 00:20:52,660 that's kind of the idea that I'm chasing at this point. And 327 00:20:53,460 --> 00:20:57,180 with also, you know, there's other endeavors that I'm investing into, like my 328 00:20:57,180 --> 00:21:00,900 music. I also have a business, a farmer's 329 00:21:00,900 --> 00:21:04,260 market business that maybe I'll talk about that I'm doing with a friend. 330 00:21:04,820 --> 00:21:08,660 And yeah, all right, now I 331 00:21:08,660 --> 00:21:12,500 got to conclude this episode, so didn't expect to go there, but I did 332 00:21:12,500 --> 00:21:16,220 anyways, and in the sake of 333 00:21:16,220 --> 00:21:19,940 being forthcoming and vulnerable. 334 00:21:22,020 --> 00:21:24,940 So, yeah, I think getting back to what I was trying to say was like, 335 00:21:24,940 --> 00:21:28,740 what got me to quit, because I think, you know, that's an important 336 00:21:28,740 --> 00:21:31,300 thing. Like, people maybe know they want to quit, but how do you do it? 337 00:21:31,300 --> 00:21:35,100 And I think these. These three books were just really encouraging 338 00:21:35,100 --> 00:21:38,100 for me to be able to think of what my life. 339 00:21:38,900 --> 00:21:42,260 What I want my life to be, and knowing that this thing that I'm doing 340 00:21:42,260 --> 00:21:45,900 right now is not supporting that. So then it becomes 341 00:21:45,900 --> 00:21:49,500 easier to do it. It's like, okay, this isn't supporting future 342 00:21:49,500 --> 00:21:52,740 me. So future me is not really going to care about this, you know, in 343 00:21:52,740 --> 00:21:56,540 a couple months from now. So I need to just separate myself and 344 00:21:56,540 --> 00:21:59,100 free up all that energy that I'm putting towards it. 345 00:22:00,700 --> 00:22:04,420 And then the biggest thing, too, I think, to put a 346 00:22:04,420 --> 00:22:07,740 little bit more tangible, you know, 347 00:22:08,140 --> 00:22:11,780 reasoning behind this, I think, too. Another thing that I've been thinking a lot about 348 00:22:11,780 --> 00:22:15,580 is values. And, like, what 349 00:22:15,580 --> 00:22:19,300 are my values? What values do 350 00:22:19,300 --> 00:22:23,060 I want to live by? And it came 351 00:22:23,060 --> 00:22:25,500 from one of the books. I can't remember quite which one yet, but. 352 00:22:28,060 --> 00:22:30,780 And that's kind of what. What the. 353 00:22:32,540 --> 00:22:36,220 The reason is that, like, I'm not fitting in at this job, 354 00:22:36,380 --> 00:22:40,220 right? It's not like they're. It's not like the company's 355 00:22:40,220 --> 00:22:43,580 a bad company or there's bad people. It's just a 356 00:22:43,580 --> 00:22:47,420 misalignment of values. The values that they have and the values that I 357 00:22:47,420 --> 00:22:51,140 have are completely different. So we're never going to be happy. 358 00:22:51,140 --> 00:22:54,620 We're never going to be able to really get along 359 00:22:54,780 --> 00:22:58,060 without butting heads or have the resistance. 360 00:22:58,300 --> 00:23:01,980 And I think that thinking about that really 361 00:23:01,980 --> 00:23:05,450 made it make sense to me in my head 362 00:23:06,090 --> 00:23:09,810 to think about what my values are and to be like, okay, these values are 363 00:23:09,810 --> 00:23:13,450 very different from the values of this person that I'm working for. So 364 00:23:14,410 --> 00:23:17,530 that kind of helped make it a little bit easier for me to quit, too. 365 00:23:19,930 --> 00:23:22,810 So, yeah, I just wanted to state that and to 366 00:23:23,290 --> 00:23:27,130 maybe encourage you to think about your values and what are your values, 367 00:23:27,130 --> 00:23:30,820 and I think it's really important to think about 368 00:23:30,820 --> 00:23:34,500 those. And it's really hard. Like, I tried writing my 369 00:23:34,500 --> 00:23:37,900 values down, what they were, and it's hard to just, like, 370 00:23:38,620 --> 00:23:41,220 say what they are like, because you have them in your head, but it's hard 371 00:23:41,220 --> 00:23:44,780 to actually do that. So I think 372 00:23:45,340 --> 00:23:48,940 I'll keep working on mine and try to refine them more. 373 00:23:49,980 --> 00:23:53,100 And to just be thinking about them, I think, is also a positive thing 374 00:23:53,580 --> 00:23:57,110 as far as, like, living a life that's aligned with your values. Um, 375 00:23:57,190 --> 00:24:01,030 but. But yeah, hopefully. Hopefully that all made 376 00:24:01,030 --> 00:24:03,510 sense, and maybe that was helpful for some of you. 377 00:24:04,710 --> 00:24:07,510 But in conclusion, for this episode, 378 00:24:08,710 --> 00:24:12,429 I did just want to talk about the quitting 379 00:24:12,429 --> 00:24:16,110 process and mostly say that it was also. It was 380 00:24:16,110 --> 00:24:18,550 still. It was, like, hard. It was not easy to do, 381 00:24:19,590 --> 00:24:23,270 to try to empathize with maybe somebody who's 382 00:24:23,270 --> 00:24:26,880 been. Who wants to quit a job and feels like it's impossible. 383 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,720 I think it's always gonna be hard, a hard thing, but in the 384 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:34,200 end, it's always a good feeling. Like, I've gotten a lot of 385 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:35,600 signs that have 386 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:41,640 kind of shown me that, like, this was the right decision. So that's been helpful 387 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,400 and encouraging and, yeah, just really excited to keep 388 00:24:45,120 --> 00:24:48,560 doing more of what I want to be doing and 389 00:24:49,300 --> 00:24:52,660 investing into this new idea and investing into this podcast. 390 00:24:53,860 --> 00:24:57,500 So, yeah, I will 391 00:24:57,500 --> 00:25:00,900 be writing reviews about these three books because I think that they're really 392 00:25:00,900 --> 00:25:04,500 helpful. And I will be posting them on the website and 393 00:25:04,740 --> 00:25:08,500 workingtowardsthurpurpose.com and I will also be posting them on Substack, 394 00:25:09,300 --> 00:25:12,500 also investing more into my writing these days. And 395 00:25:13,220 --> 00:25:16,910 you can find that on substack. Com 396 00:25:16,910 --> 00:25:20,750 if you've never used the platform before. It's kind of like a 397 00:25:20,830 --> 00:25:24,550 blogging site that's also like a newsletter. So you can, like subscribe to 398 00:25:24,550 --> 00:25:27,550 people and when they write a new blog, you get a newsletter email. 399 00:25:28,430 --> 00:25:31,390 So I think I'll be doing some book reviews on that too, 400 00:25:32,590 --> 00:25:36,350 for books that, like, are really impactful for me. And I'm working on those 401 00:25:36,350 --> 00:25:40,190 three right now. And when they're posted, you can find them there. 402 00:25:40,190 --> 00:25:43,960 And I will leave a link for my substack in the show 403 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,800 notes also, so if you're interested, you can click it and 404 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,760 yeah, I think that's all I got for today. Did feel a little all over 405 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:55,560 the place and chaotic, but hopefully it makes sense 406 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:59,640 because once again, I will not be editing. So I will see 407 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:03,440 you on a next episode real soon. I hope you all 408 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:04,440 have a great week. Thanks, 409 00:26:10,060 --> 00:26:20,010 Sam.