And a merry Christmas to you, Mr. Scrooge.
Come back.
Everything is ready, my darling. Do not be
afraid. Soon we'll be together again.
This sandwich tastes as dry and hail.
Hello, and welcome to hello, this is the Doomed Show. I am Richard. My name
is Brad. Folks, we thought it would be
fun as a little holiday treat to
drop some favorite,
absolute favorite Christmas horror gems
on you because we heard people like lists of
movies. It's true. I've heard that.
So we're gonna. We're gonna do a top 10. And we're
gonna do things not wildly differently, but, you know,
this is not a competition between the movies. These movies
aren't in a battle royale. To the death or to
the spoiled eggnog. Each movie,
as it ascends up, this list is
more and more Christmasy. Like it wouldn't be Christmas
if I didn't watch an insert film here. Degrees of
that. That's how I'm thinking of it. I like it.
Yeah, I think that's the way we should move forward. Perfect.
The main thing I want to stress is thank you so much to all the
listeners of hello, this is the Doom Show. Oh,
it sounds like I got choked up there.
Okay. Choking me up a little bit. Richard Klempt,
thank you guys for being there for me.
No, for real, I. Thank you guys. I don't know why my voice
cracked, but it's just that seasonal emotions.
Oh my gosh. What if we're the podcast version of Late Night with the Devil
and I'm the tubby sidekick? Hey,
can't I be the tubby sidekick? No, you're.
You're the lead guy. Oh,
okay. Well, I'm glad I get the face worse Fate. Worse than death.
Well, I did go to the Ed McMahon school of sidekicking.
Haha. Yes,
I went to the Johnny Carson school. So I. Well, that's weird.
Wild stuff. Weird and wild stuff.
And then you just, you, you. You knock the ball into the hole with your
imaginary driver. Yes. That was me doing
an impersonation of Dana Carvey doing an impersonation of Johnny
Carson. Spot on, if you ask me. Oh,
thank you. I loved it. I guess I can't take credit for Dana Carvey's performance.
Well, first question I have for you is,
why the hell isn't there a Christmas sequel of Halloween?
That's a great question. I've often thought that my
quote for this episode was going to be black Christmas is the Halloween
of Christmas. But that's
awesome. I love that. That's great.
Yeah. Supposedly.
Supposedly Carpenter called Clark and asked him if
he could make a sequel to Black Christmas. I. I've never believed
it. I don't know. That. That. Yeah. Veracity of that. Of that tale.
But obviously there are some similarities
as far as. Well, everybody,
everybody, everybody here seen Halloween and Black Christmas. Let's be
honest. Be weird. If they hadn't,
it would be. All right. So, Brad, would you please tell
me your number 10 Christmas horror
favorite? My number 10 Christmas horror
favorite would be an episode of the BBC's
A Ghost Story for Christmas, and that is Lost Hearts by
Mr. James, the master of the ghost story.
Man. Folks, I hope all of you out there
have seen at least a few, if not all, of the
BBC ghost stories for Christmas. Oh, my God.
Lost Hearts is absolutely a banger in that series.
It really is. It's Elizabeth's favorite. It's probably.
And this is just the 70s versions.
It is Elizabeth's favorite. It's probably my second favorite.
Nice. But we. I mean, you can't open gifts on Christmas morning,
like you said about this list, without us having seen Lost Hearts.
You know, I do the. We watch them
on the day after Christmas because
we often find ourselves way behind
schedule on watching our Christmas horror.
And so the BBC Ghost Stories for Christmas and related titles,
because there's a few that aren't official ones that we also include,
and we fire those up, like, right on the day after Christmas and
just keep them going, especially at night. It's perfect. Yeah.
Oh, man. Oh, I wish it would all last forever.
What's your number 10? My number 10. I'm just gonna make a guess that this
is gonna be way, way higher on your list. Just a guess.
The Legend of Hell House. Mm. Not way,
way, way higher, but. Yes. Okay. Okay. Yes.
Legend of Hell House, 1973.
It has been in my life since I was young.
I remember renting it when I was, like, 12 or
13 or maybe seeing it on TBS or something on a Saturday,
and just scared and intrigued.
And it gets scarier as I get to adulthood.
It's just so enveloping and just a wonderful movie.
And I enjoyed the book as well, which you gave me a copy.
Ah. I did not realize I'd done that. But I'm
glad I did because it's an excellent book. It's all real.
I'll say more when it comes up in my list. Alrighty.
Well, then, that case, what is your number nine?
My number nine is a newer. I think it's.
This is the newest on my 10
list. And that would be the BBC's recent adaptation
of Mr. James is the mezzotint.
Mezzotent. Yeah.
I find it to be extremely effective. There are
some changes made from the book, but they're not, they don't
really address the. The story is the same essentially.
It's got Greg Kinnear as the lead. I love Greg Kinnear
from Count Arthur Strong and from Bond.
But he does an excellent job in the lead and I do find
it legitimately hair raising. I think there are
a handful of the new ones that in my opinion match,
that are, that are, that are of quality that you could stack up against
the 70s versions. Nice. The Metzaten is definitely
one of them. Well, I'm going to add it to my playlist this
year because I, I'm struggling to remember
if I saw it because I watched a bunch of the newer ones at the
same time last year or the year before and I
hate to say it, they're, they're, you know, getting melded
in my mind. I will make sure to pay
attention to this one this year. Yeah, I don't think you'll be disappointed
or anyone else. I think it's an excellent adaptation. Mark Gaddis,
of course. Yes. I think you'll. I think everyone will enjoy the
Mets attempt. Nice, nice. Yeah,
I'm curious to see. I know I
watched, I might have.
Yeah, that's, that's the one I watched. I watched that one. And maybe
Count Magnus. God, I love Count Magnus.
Yeah, that's. It's probably my favorite Mr. James story is
Count Magnus. Nice. And I've definitely seen. It's very high.
I've definitely seen the new version of Whistling. I'll come to you.
Yes. Yeah, I do not, I do not care for that one myself.
It's different. Very different.
Yeah, I mean, yeah, they tried something different for me. It didn't work.
But there's those mid range ones. There's the Whislaw
come remake. There's the ash tree
number 13. Oh yeah. The ones out
of those that I like the most are. Oh, there's a.
With a pair of curse binoculars. Dank of
it. Anyway, I don't think those are as high quality as the 70s.
And then what came with Mark Gaddis. Right. Mark really knows
what makes, makes the ghost story tick. Of course
a few of his I think have been misfires, but it's
been a very high ratio of quality in the new ones.
Nice, nice. What is your number nine?
My number nine is Night of the Comet,
1984. A movie from my youth
that I remember Loving as a kid. Only ever watched it the
one time had no idea had Christmas in it.
Because it's in Los Angeles. Yeah. Until a couple years
ago, maybe. I don't know if it was the year before last
or last year that, like, I just felt like I rediscovered
Night of the Comet. And it's got tons of Christmas
in it. It's just one of those movies that gets
better every time. I love it. Absolutely. It does.
It is not on my list, I will say. But I'll also say
Nashville has the Belcourt Theater, which is where we went and saw x.
Maxine rather 35 millimeter.
So she sent me what they were playing for the holidays.
And it was a lot of stuff, a lot of good stuff, a lot of
holiday stuff. But the only thing that I was remotely interested in,
they were playing Night of the common in 35. But it
ended up being on a night we were having something to do or that we
couldn't go. But that was the only thing that really did interest me because
I do. I do dig Night of the comment. It's not one that I saw
as a kid at all. Picked up the Blu Ray
when it came out, really. And we really enjoy it.
It's just. It just didn't make my top, you know.
Yeah, it's hot stuff, but it's. No, it's really good.
It's got the Chakotay from Star Trek. Voyager,
and he is in rare form in that
he is absolutely, absolutely gorgeous.
Gorgeous man. All right, Mr. Brad, what is
your number eight? My number eight
is an episode of an HBO series
some folks might remember, called Tales from the Crypt. And it is their
adaptation of an EC comic titled and
all through the House. Nice. Nice.
The team of people involved in this episode
is unbelievable. You've got Dean Cundy of
Halloween fame, John Carpenter Films.
Sorry, Mabel just launched herself off my private parts.
But it's. It's the. It's the story about the killer
Santa Claus. It is absolutely on a par
with the story itself. And from another adaptation,
it's not Christmas. And see, this is one that we watch on Christmas
Eve. As I probably said on the show before, Christmas Eve
is my favorite day of the year. It outshines my birthday or
anything else, because Elizabeth and I are
at home watching Christmas horror films and episodes all
day long. We culminate in a certain film,
probably, even if you don't know me, you probably guess what that is.
But. But, yeah, but we,
we just. We have a wonderful time.
So I always love it when we get it in because it is. It is
an excellent adaptation of that story.
Cool. Yeah.
Yeah. I'm familiar with the film
from the 70s, early 70s, that adapted it.
Which one is that? Test and the Crypt. Thank you.
Speaking of genres, I mix up horror anthologies
from that era. Be the Amicus or not, I always get
everything mixed up. So, yes, I'm familiar with that one.
Definitely haven't seen the Tales from the Crypt that I recall.
You haven't? Really? I don't think so. First season.
First season. And it's one of the first couple of episodes.
I have to look now. I'm sorry. No, it's all right. No, I. I've.
I've just seen like,
definitely one of the mid seasons. I was
home enough in my youth to catch it,
but I never got to backtrack.
I've still never backtracked with that show, even though I
shamefully bought all of them used in
my early days of collecting horror. And then I never watched them
so bad. You should. It is the second episode
of the show. Oh, wow. Aired June 10,
1989. Robert Zemex.
Robert Zemeckis directed it. There's no. There's no
weird Polar Express going on. Fred Decker
of Night of the Creeps fame wrote it.
Damn. Mary Ellen Trainor. It stars
as the wife. You've got Dean Cundy. As I
mentioned on cinematography,
it's a very good adaptation. If you've not seen it, I highly.
I highly recommend you. You seek that out. I will. I absolutely
will. And please let me know what you think because I just absolutely
love it. Can do. All right.
My number eight is a little movie called Black Christmas.
The 2006 version. Well, well,
well. Yep, yep. So I
know it was funny. It took a lot of people a long time to come
around to this one, but some of us
loved the Black Christmas remake from the
jump from when it came out. Yep. It's just fantastic.
If you're gonna do a remake and you're not just doing in title
alone, then you must do something crazy.
And they went completely batshit crazy for the 2006
one they did. Oh, my God.
They swaying. They swung for the fences and they hit
a home run. Oh, my God.
Oh, that's so wonderful. I mean, I don't know what the deal is with
the eyeballs, the eye violence, but it's
not established, really. It just keeps happening. It's wonderful
and it's. The tone is so cozy.
Absolutely. It is. You can really feel the cold outside, I think,
in that film. Yes, yes.
Oh, man. What, pray tell, is your
number seven? My number seven is the
Legend of Hell House. Yay. Which.
Which, outside of the Ghost Story for Christmas,
is the least Christmassy of any of these films?
Yeah, same. That's right, we'll talk about that.
Starring Pamela Franklin, Roddy McDowell, Clive Revel and
David Hemings. His wife, Gail Honeycutt,
of course, based on Richard Matheson's story.
The very disturbing and effective music is
by Delia Derbyshire and Brian Hodgson of the BBC.
What do they call it? Radiophonic Experimental. I can't remember.
Yeah, man. But she. She was a pioneer in
electronic music and it really is.
She. She did an arrangement of the Doctor who theme that
used. She's influenced Apex Twin,
Blah, blah, blah. Sure, sure. People of that stature.
It's a wonderful film. Absolutely. It is
literally filled with atmosphere from start to finish.
I mean, John Hoff did a great, great, great job,
which he ended up going on to make.
Well, he'd made Twins of Evil already and
he directed the film that you and I both enjoy quite a bit from
1980 called the Witcher. The Witcher. The Watcher in the
Woods. Yes. So good.
So. No, absolutely. Love it. Love Pamela Franklin.
Love Roddy McDowell in anything. Roddy was just amazing.
Same. He. He looks really cool. It's 1973
and he's got big, big glasses on and. God,
he must have neck. And he. He must have been blind wearing those glasses.
Oh, my God. Heck,
they. They magnify his eyes like he was a freaking anime character.
It's great. Yeah. Absolutely wonderful
film. It's not Christmas if we don't see it.
Yep, yep. And that's the thing. Like, it. It ends on Christmas
Eve. The. The events in the movie take place
right up till Christmas Eve. And I just. Oh, my God. It's just.
What a way to start the season. It's one of the first things we watch
every year. It's so good.
Yes. Yes. All right.
My number seven is your number. Oh,
it's. It's the OG Black Christmas.
Well, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, just for the
fellatio joke alone.
That's the only scene I watch. No,
speaking of movies where you can feel the cold. Black Christmas.
Just great. Yes. I don't. I don't know what else to say about
it. It and Legend of Hell House, I will say at this point,
are the classy movies on my list.
So anything classy for me is now over.
I have a lot of great. We'll say it's
trash, but written in cursive trash for the rest of this list
and I have. I suspect you might have more to say about the movie later.
I will, absolutely. I will.
You're right. What can you say about it at this point?
Yeah, but. Yeah, all right.
I would like to know your number six.
My number six is another ghost story
for Christmas. But this one is not by Mr. James. This one
is by Charles Dickens. And this is the Signalman.
Yes. Starring Denholm Elliott,
which most people will know from the Indiana Jones series,
but just a great British actor.
This one's haunting. It is directed superbly.
You know, they made, they made so much with so little and
they're all very even. This one is even much like
Mr. James's stories is to where it just kind of sneaks up behind you and
then clunks you over the head. Yeah.
But it's just an excellent, excellent character piece.
Charles Dickens had been in a train wreck and
it did haunt him late in life and that is when he,
from what I remember reading is when he wrote this excellent
story. If you've not, if you've not read or seen
the Signalman, I highly recommend it. Yeah, every, every frame
is a painting in that one. It is so beautiful.
Just. My God. Yeah,
the. Yeah,
I, I just, I'm in awe of that one.
It's very good. Yeah.
What is your number? Are we five or six? We're on six.
So news on sixes. I can do it. Silent night,
deadly night four. Initiation from 1990.
This is a. A very special film that,
you know, made for cable slash VHS market
and really, really slimy.
Gory and demented
in the best way possible, but also really
stupid. I love it.
It's witchcraft and slime and little
creatures and some of those wonderful
mind bending effects by good old screaming Mad George.
It's like. I normally don't even focus on like who the
effects artists are, but you know, out of all the.
The Tom Savinis and Rick Bakers of the world, you know,
and Stan Winston's of course screaming at George. His name should,
you know, stay in the conversation as well. He's, you know, he was wonderful
and a character to boot. This is the first
on the list that I have not seen. Oh baby,
you're in for a very strange treat.
That sounds like it. It sounds like it.
Oh boy. What is, what is your number five?
Number five is a little film called Black Christmas 2006.
Yes. It's got Katie Cassidy
in it, which is one of my favorite actresses.
She actually held a tiny paper representation
of myself flat.
Brad. I have a picture if anyone wants to
DM me, I'll send it to them. Nice. No,
it's got all kinds of actresses from that period that I enjoy. It's got
dawn from Buffy, Michelle Trachtenberg. It's got the girl from
Party of Five. It's got Mary
Elizabeth Winstead. Yes, she's in it.
Yes. Goldie Hawn's
less famous son is in it. What's his name?
Sure, sure, brother. Oliver Hudson. I think that's
his name. He's in it. But it is. It's a great. I remember.
Seems like it was fairly early on, listening to Nashie cast.
I can't remember if he brought it up or if I brought it up,
but Rod agreed that this was an excellent little film. And I thought,
okay, I can trust Rod.
Yeah. Yeah. This is. Was a shibboleth of some.
Of some kind. Dude, that's a great. That's a great way to put
it. Nice. Yeah. Because it's a. It's an excellent film.
It builds on the original while being very
faithful to it. It's beautiful. It's just a beautiful,
beautiful film. And it's got some gore in it,
if you're lucky, like I am. You own the DVD with the
extended with the other alternate ending,
merely because it's not been on Blu Ray in America yet, which I
don't understand, but whatever. And it's Glenn Wong and
what's the other dude's name? They were.
No, James Wong and Glenn Morgan. They worked on the X Files together.
So I thought it was gonna be good. And it was totally.
So it's not Christmas. We watch it every day. Every Christmas Eve.
This is one of the ones we watch. Yeah, the. The only
thing. The only thing that I would say is a criticism is
it pushes the unlikable characters not
over the top for me, but close to it, where it's
like, is there something wrong with this house?
Like, is the plumbing backed up? Is the laundry room broken?
Are people stealing each other's food during the. During the
week? Because everyone's already at each other's
throats, like, they need this Christmas break so desperately.
But it's. It's not like, you know,
some modern horror movie. People making slashers nowadays
confuse the idea that slasher
movie victims have to be unlikable. Right.
They're not going that far. It's just riding that line because,
you know what modern filmmakers should remember is
that characters in old
slasher movies from the 80s usually are lovable.
Even the shitheads are kind of lovable.
Yeah. Yeah. Well, I kind of think that follows along
with the original film because the original film is not
filled with love for people. That is true. That is true.
You've got the. The final girl. She is not
overly friendly. And then of course, you've got.
You've got Margaret Kidder.
She's just. She's like Katharine Hepburn just for the 70s.
She's a. She's a mess. Yeah,
she's a mess. But she's like a body drinking
gal abroad, you know?
I love it. So my number five is actually
a part five. And well,
that is Silent Night, Deadly Night Five. The Toy Maker
from 1991. The Toy Maker.
Oh, my God. Infamous one with a famous star.
Yep. This is Mickey Rooney.
Wow. This movie is a.
It's a sequel to Part four, but it's a
spiritual sequel in that it has very little
to do with the number four. There's just little nods to the.
To the part, to part four in it. It's very silly.
It has too much stuff packed into it. It is like.
It would be like a fruitcake with a Christmas
goose on top of it inside of a candy cane. Like it's
so much. But yeah,
it is. It's crazy. And I don't want to spoil anything
for anyone who hasn't seen five. Not gonna say anything
more. You need to see it. It's wild.
I don't know if you should. Even if you just watch it by itself without
seeing the other four movies before it,
you'd be fine because it's just. It's just so weird.
So I have not seen it. Oh, boy.
You're in for another treat. Very different treat from part four.
And that's what's great about this series is they're all so
different from each other. Except for two, which is just one
again with some funny scenes in it.
But you know. Wow. Yeah.
Brad, tell me your 50 number five.
I'm ready for four, I think. Oh, I'm sorry.
Your number four, please. My number four is
a film that was on television in 1972.
It is. It was written by Joseph Stefano,
the screenwriter of Psycho. It was directed by John Llewellyn Moxie,
who directed the City of the Dead or. Or Horror
Hotel as well as a lot of TV stuff. Stars Sally Field,
Jessica Walter, Eleanor Parker, Julie Harris, Jill Hayworth,
Walter Brennan was produced by Aaron Spelling and Paul
Junger Witt. This film is home for
the holidays. It is a made for television slasher
film from 1972 and
it predates a lot of things. There is a
lot here There is a lot here that is straight slasher
film. It has not had an
official release other than on an echo bridge
set, which, as we all know, is not a real release of anything.
Sure. But it is a fantastic
slasher film that takes place at Christmas just
everywhere you turn is quality.
Yeah. You know, ABC produced it along with Aaron Spelling and
Leonard Goldberg, Paul Drunker Witt, who of course produced
Partridge Family, the Golden Girls soap, Benson. It's a living emptiness
and blossom. So, I mean, there's a lot of talent and it's such a fun
movie. And it is over in
74 minutes. You can find it on
YouTube. It's the first one we watch every Christmas Eve morning.
Gets us in the spirit of things.
Somebody is killing these sisters. They are dressed in a
yellow rain slicker and there is a
pitchfork involved. I've always found it
very interesting that they're apocryphal
or not. There's talk that Sally Field could have been Alice
in Friday the 13th. Wow. I think that's always.
I've always thought that was crazy because she was already very famous.
Smokey and the Bandit, this, that and the other. Yeah. But she had already
starred as a final girl in a
slasher film, so I think this one's pretty cool.
I love it. Yeah, That's a great one. You know what's funny is I always
forget about it every Christmas because I think it's on Thanksgiving.
And I don't know why I don't remember it as a Christmas thing.
I have no idea why it'd be. Cool if it was Thanksgiving because we don't
have enough Thanksgiving horror films. Well, I'm gonna make sure I watch
freaking Home for the Holidays this year because I was gonna skip it. So thank
you. You're welcome. But you know what's
funny? Aaron Spelling, the. The man who touched everything,
became gold. Like King Minus.
King Minus. That's his name. Huh.
The Christmas episode of TJ Hooker I watched today was
his exec executive produced by Aaron Spelling, and it
was garbage. So we need
him to be the producer. We need his producers touch, not his executive
producers touch. That's right.
That is right. Oh, boy.
It was the movie of the week.
ABC movie of the week. Was the slasher film awesome.
Is it so cool? Just. Just that. It's just crazy.
It's just crazy. Yeah, they were.
They were like, just seeing what works, and I think that's beautiful.
What is your number four? My number four is a number three.
And that is Silent Night, Deadly Night. Are you sensing a pattern?
Here, part three, I am better
watch out from 1989.
Unlike the rest of this franchise, I absolutely
love this movie for putting me in
the Christmas spirit. It is.
I don't blame anyone for not liking it.
It's very slow.
It moves at a. They call it a glacial pace,
which is. It's. It's. It just doesn't go fast.
But all of the dialogue is crazy.
The situations are just stupid and bizarre.
You've got two people from Twin Peaks in it.
You've got. Speaking of unlikable characters,
the main. The final girl in this is such a dick.
It's hilarious. She has this disaffected
scream that she does, and it's horrid.
She screams the same way every time with the same
bored kind of scream that she could have recorded
it at the beginning of the movie and
then they just could have played that same audio clip over and over again because
she does the same scream over and over. It's so funny.
But she. It's. It's just. She's just.
Part of what makes it so great is her being such an unlikable
character. I can't remember if it was last year or the year
before, but Amazon had a stellar deal on Silent Night,
Deadly Night two and three together. Oh, wow. I bought
it. And I want to say we watched three,
but right now I'm having trouble recalling it.
Yeah, we didn't watch two because I know two is mostly one.
Ugh. Yeah. I love the parts of
two that are new, but it's. I never watch it.
That clip shows pisses me off.
Yeah. Is the boogeyman too? It's. It's kind of.
Yeah, it's brutal. I think. I think. I feel like those two films compete for
using the most clips from the original. It's shameless.
Yeah. I've never seen a Boogeyman 2, but I remember you saying
that it has. Some fun stuff in it. It's.
Honestly, I. I'm glad I've seen
both of those sequels because the stuff that's new in them
is wonderful, but it's just so frustrating. What could have been
had they actually made a film instead of just making,
you know, two thirds of a film or less. I recommend that Vestron
set, the Vestron Blu Ray triple feature of 3,
4 and 5. Highly recommend that.
I should. Should. It's good stuff. All right, man.
I want to. I want to hear your number three.
My number three is the all through the house segment of
Tales from the Crypt from Amicus from 1972.
Sweet. Starring Joan Collins as the wife.
Every year I pause it on the
really nice stereo they have in their house and we Google to see if
we could find one to buy. Oh, wow, no luck
so far. It's perfect in
every way. It's your classic demented,
demented serial killer loose from an insane Salem wearing
a Santa Claus costume.
It's just really good. I highly recommend it to anyone.
I place it so high because I've just. That was an early
part of our Christmas horror. Sure. Because I knew that it was
a Christmas horror. I'm like, ah, Tales. And the Crips got that really good segment.
I used to watch it on cable at my grandmother's house when I was a
kid. That's the first place I saw it.
But, yeah, all through the house. Tales from the Crypt.
Sadly, the rest of the movie, Tales from the Crypt, does not get
watched like it should because we watched the Christmas segment and
then pull it out and then, honestly, at Halloween,
what we ought to do is just do the reverse and just skip the Christmas
segment. That's a part. Great idea. That's a great idea.
Yeah. But. Yeah, that's my. That is my number three.
Well, you know how I feel about good old Joan Collins, man. I love
her. Oh, yes. I knew who she was from
popular culture, but I didn't know she'd done horror movies.
So when I was getting into horror movies, I was richly
rewarded with I Don't Want To Be Born,
AKA the Devil Within Her.
Absolutely loved her in her double
feature of the Stud and the Bitch.
Two of the tackiest films you'll ever watch. Oh, my God. They're not horror,
by the way. They're horrifying. They're very horrifying,
but in a different way.
All right, my number three. Here is a
little movie from 1980 called Christmas Evil.
Well, and I'm telling you now, I know I said these movies
aren't fighting, but when we get to my number two, I just want people to
know this was the hardest.
I almost switched these so many times, but I just left it. I gave up.
But yes, Christmas Evil. I show this to an
audience who doesn't watch a lot of horror. If you have friends
that don't watch a lot of horror movies, I strongly recommend you dropping
this on there with no preamble. I did this by accident one
year, just threw it on. It was my first time
seeing it, I think, showing it to a group
of friends and we were cheering, cheering. This movie.
Love it. Just. It just captures
the madness of. It's like maniac
light or something, you know, or like,
like ho ho ho. It's the taxi Driver but
without the grimy. Without the grimy New York. It's like the
grimy Canadian or something.
Uhhuh. Y Yeah. I. I can't recommend Christmas
Evil enough. I Hopefully everyone's already knows how magical it
is, literally and figuratively. That is fantastic.
Thank you. Thank you. I want to know your number.
Ooh. Number two is Solid
Night Bloody Night, a 1972 slasher
film that features POV of the killer and
calls coming from inside the house.
Long before. Not long before, but before
Black Christmas, Before Halloween.
It is. It stars Mary Warrenov and
Luigi Pistilli's ugly American cousin,
James Patterson. Yep.
This movie is amazing. There's sepia
tone, is giallo aspects.
Black love killer. There's a guy that was in Star Trek.
It was produced in part by Lloyd Kaufman, in part
by Canon productions. Yes, the Canon Film Group.
Dude. I'm telling you. Directed by Theodore
Gersheny but also among the cast.
You get a lot of the Warhol factory gang.
John Carradine agreed to play a
part as long as he didn't have any dialogue. They granted his wish.
It is a slasher film. It is a proto slasher. It is
a Giallo inspired film. It is
never been released on any kind of good.
Really, really good transfer because
it is in the public domain. It fell
into the public domain. So I don't know why somebody doesn't just
clean it up and put it out. I'd buy it in a heartbeat. Blu Ray.
We typically. There's. You could find it in Mill Creek packs.
It was one of the. It's one of the real gems of
like the entire Mill Creek catalog.
Yeah, yeah. This movie that you could
tell was beautiful underneath all the scratches. I can
remember having someone over at Christmas time to watch it and
all of us just really enjoying it. This is our penultimate
viewing of Christmas, typically Christmas Eve.
Nice. Kind of all towards. Builds up towards this.
Highly recommended. Highly recommended.
83 minutes. It's a good time.
It's. It's kind of been accused of being meandery. No,
but yeah,
no, I agree. And folks, if you can find it, find that
download. So the version
on Prime, Amazon prime is dog.
Somebody has shared the widescreen print
of it on YouTube. Grab that one and save it.
Download whatever you need to do. I want to say it was Vinegar
syndrome that put it out for like
a hot minute. They're like, hey, we can't release this movie
for reasons. But here's A nice download.
We didn't restore it. We just found a print, ripped it
and released it. That's the copy you.
That's what you hooked me up with. Because I didn't get it in time.
And so it is.
Every year. It needs to be in widescreen, people. I am a big fan
of. It really does. It's masterful.
I will say real quickly that this was Lloyd Kaufman's first
production credit. Nice. And James Patterson
died the same year. He's the guy always call
the Luigi Pistilli's ugly American cousin.
So I feel bad about it. But now is that
it's all in love. It's all in love. He's. He's a great.
It's a great performance. It's very sad that he was not
well at the time and didn't make it. It really is.
But he lives forever now on Christmas Day, so. That's right.
That's right. But yes, that is my number
two Christmas horror film. Well, my number
two is the movie that
somehow beat out number three. I don't know how. It just happened.
Don't open till Christmas, 1984.
The British Christmas slasher that flips
the script. And instead of a killer Santa,
you got someone killing Santas.
That's right. This is tacky
and stupid and that awful
British. Know what I mean? Know what I mean?
Elbowing you in the ribs kind
of movie. All the characters kind of suck
in it. It's. But in a good way. It's just.
I've never seen anything like it. Good old Edmund Purdom
was supposed to be the director. He's going to direct and star.
And he was so bad at directing that they quickly
hired someone to actually direct it. Well, I think
that really he wanted to focus more on his acting. Yes.
Which. Yes, it happens. It's. It's a
good. I mean, he didn't focus on his acting for this film,
but.
It'S a confusing mess and it's all wonderful.
It's. This was also almost my number one. I think
this one's just a scrappy little movie. Wants to fight everybody see.
And let me. Let me share with you.
This is what's missing from my list that I made. Aha.
Aha. So there was something.
There was something. This movie, okay?
So you just find a guy that says he's a screenwriter and
you say, I need you to write the opening scene
of a slasher film where somebody
mysteriously kills someone dressed as Santa. And they write that
scene. Then you go to another person, you're like, hey, I need
you to write this next scene about a
slasher film. We're going to meet the. Meet the main characters a little
bit and so kind of do some of that. And then you go to the
third guy or girl and you're like, okay, I need
to write you a scene in a slasher film where somebody's
murdering someone dressed as Santa. That's the way
the film feels. It feels like. It's like every scene
like they filmed seven films and then took those
seven films, disassembled them, and then made one film out
of different parts. Yep. And it's a. It's a glorious.
It's magical. It's. It's. Edmund. Heard him.
It's the girl there at the end that I really.
I really, really, really like her. She's very likable.
Totally. Totally. Her mom owns the strip club or whatever.
He's like. He's like, maybe you can come with me and we can
spend some time together. She's like, oh, I can't. My mom owns this place.
Place. She's making me take my cop off already. What's great,
it's got two final girls. She's the likable,
likable one. Yes. The other one looks like somebody
farted. She always. She's just offended.
Thank you. That's so good. She's. She's definitely smelling
something bad. Yeah. And her boyfriend's.
He does suck. I mean, looks.
But this movie is held together by. It's held together by
whatever, the British. A cellophane tape. I guess maybe that's.
They call it cellophane. But yeah, this is the one that I sadly,
I wrote. I'll tell the audience, our friends here, that I wrote
the list earlier and then came home without it. And then I had to quickly
reassemble from memory my list.
This. This one gets played on Christmas Eve. It's just.
It's just so much fun and it's. It's stupid.
It. It's crazy. It's just a lot of fun.
And like that ending, that last scene, you just.
You're just like, wow.
Oh, my God. Yes. So before
we get to our number one, before we share the topity,
top of the most of the most, Brad and I are
going to do a quick, rapid fire. Freaking runners up.
Brad, why don't you read off your runners up? I want to hear what
didn't make the cut. Even though they're totally wonderful.
So I've got two that are ghost stories for Christmas. They're two newer ones,
Count Magnus, which I think is excellent.
And the one that kicked off the new Ghost Story for Christmas with
Mark Gaddis if I'm not mistaken. And that's the track tape met off.
That's an excellent episode as well. Oh yeah, you could find those.
You could find the tractate made off on YouTube for sure. I'm not sure about
Cat Madness. My other honorable mention is
a very entertaining film. One that I know my. Our friend Ted
is a fan of and that's whoever Slew Auntie Rue. Oh yes, I forgot.
Which is an awesome.
It probably fits in the. The.
The psycho bitty genre that
started with Whatever Happened to Baby Jane. But it is. It's a very
entertaining movie. It's got a great, great cast, it's got a
great set.
And you really don't quite know what. What's actually
happened until the very end. Curtis Harrington directed it.
1972. Of course it's. It's psycho bitty.
In particular is Shelley Winters. I should
have said that already. But all right. Excellent,
excellent film. I highly recommend anybody. It takes place over Christmas.
I really wanted to find a way to make it into my top 10,
but it just. It got crowded out and then I also crowded
out Devin open till Christmas because I forgot about it.
But. But yeah, no, those are my honorable
missions. Nice. Daisy from the
actress who played Daisy in Keeping up
Appearances. Very, very young and very cute in that movie.
She's great. It was only like 100%
20 odd years before Daisy.
Oh my God. So fun. Yeah,
absolutely. No, she's in it. She's cute as a button.
Nice. Well, I have got a ton of
freaking. A Santa ton. Oh.
Oh, I'm sorry runners. Let me throw in one more. Oh please.
Sorry. No. Go, go, go. Casting the runes from
79. Yeah. Oh, which. Which.
Yes, it started. Hold on, let me pull that stars the
lady that starred the same year as Lucy
in Dracula with Frank Langella.
Oh, that's right. I've got a thing. Jan Francis.
Yeah, Jan Francis. So she's in
a 1979. Which means it's updated. It is the.
The only one of these Mr. James stories that are
set in present day.
But it is an extremely good episode.
It's a great adaptation. It's on YouTube. That's where I watch it every
year. Sorry. And I. I cut you off there.
I just. Sure that I got. And now I'm. I'm done
now. Okay. Well I. I brought way too many.
So here's. Here's my. My. My Santa's.
Santa's sack full of freaking runners. Up. We have
the brain.
All right, let me start my runner. I have to start my runners up.
All over. I it up. Did I mention I'm totally exhausted?
I took okay allergy pill last night and I am still recovering
from it. Oh, I'm still tired. So anyway. No,
it's fine. It's fine. I'm. I'm having a good time.
So. I forgot one of my rewind already again too.
So. Yes, so rewind all this.
So I have too many runners up. I'm gonna run through them real
quick, which is a lie since I've had to start over already.
The Brain from 1988. It's about a killer brain
and it takes place in Canada and there's lots of Christmas in it. It's really
funny. Do they. They have Christmas in
Canada? No, I mean now they do.
They do. It was. This movie was so popular, they decided to
start doing. Okay, I.
Madman is from 1989 is absolutely
essential viewing. You need to see that, folks at
home. Yeah, it's good stuff.
You. You'll blink. If you blink, you'll miss the Christmas in it.
But I swear it's there. I promise it's in there. There. Next up
is P2 from 2007.
It's P2. A new level of terror. If you want to be specific.
The subtitle there just. Just really,
really good. Two or three characters.
Intense and scary.
I think it's a scary one. See, I haven't seen it.
Oh, you're in for a treat, man. Yeah,
and. And you're not the only one. Ted. I think Ted was watching the
other day. And I'm like, yep,
Richard likes that. And I need to see it. You'll like it.
You'll like it. I bet I will. From. From 2003,
we have dead End. Good old Ray
Wise and Lin Shea.
Next up is elves from 1989. Which vinegar
syndrome. What are you doing? Can you please Massacre video?
Anybody? Somebody rescue.
Everyone has the same copy of Elves. Everyone has
the same download that has the same tracking problems. And it looks
like shit. I've seen it once. It's a
staple in this house. It's offensive and awful and wonderful.
Cannot Recommend elves from 1989.
Great stuff. Yep.
Next up is a little movie. I know. Brad, you were.
You want to see this when you haven't seen it yet? It's called deep red
from 1975. Bloody hell, man.
How did that not make my list? Of course it's Christmas. We even talked about
watching it, me and Elizabeth. I'm so stupid. Why am
I on a show? How did you allow me on a show? Like, I don't
know what our.
No, I feel really stupid. Don't cut
any of this out. Brad's an idiot. No way.
All I know is that the pivotal flashback has the
Christmas in it, so we. We tend to start the
season with that one, too. So we'll watch that.
The greatest giallo ever made. Yeah. You knew. You knew you
were forgetting something. But it wasn't. Don't open till Christmas.
No, it didn't make any of my lists.
Oh, it's my favorite. And the best yellow
ever, in my opinion. There you go. I can't. It's got freaking Christmas in it.
You're not stupid.
Next up is the original Silent Night, Deadly Night. I just want to give it
a shout out for being so original.
And nobody saw it come in. Even though, you know,
Christmas Evil beat it by four years. The marketing,
like the juggernaut of marketing
hasn't even has a funny effect on my number one,
which we'll get back to in a moment. Just love it.
Interesting. The Silent Night remake that they put out
in. That's. Yeah. So 2012.
Yeah, I like that. A lot like that.
Speaking of doing a sequel. Yeah. Speaking of doing a sequel.
Different. Doing something different with it. Wonderful movie. Yeah, they did.
And my last two. I'm gonna say you have to watch these back
to back, because we did, and it's wonderful.
I'm talking about The Oracle from 1985
and Prime Prime Evil from 1988,
both directed by Roberta Findlay.
Nice. A. One of the
most important figures in the grindhouse circuit.
She's, you know, she, like, helped shape what the roughy became.
She made a lot of porn. Her and her husband made a lot of porn.
And then she found that
horror movie was. Horror movies were lucrative.
So she made like five horror movies back to
back almost. And they're all
really silly. But the Oracle is very
Christmassy and Primeval is also almost
as Christmassy. But, yeah, recommend both
of those. What's the film that I've seen of hers?
There's Lurkers and then there's. She.
Do I just. I dis. I dismember Mama? No,
that's. I don't know who did. I just remember Mama.
Actually, she also did one called Blood Sisters.
Are you thinking of a night. Are you thinking of a night to.
Dismember a knight to dismember? Yeah,
that's. What is her name?
That's a different direct dress.
Doris Wishman. Yes. I have still
never seen that. That's what I've seen. I've seen an I dismember.
That movie apparently is completely wild. I guess it's.
I guess it's excusable to confuse Doris Wishman with Roberta Finlay
and the light in the 80s 80s slasher horror.
I think honestly they had similar careers.
Doris Wishman might be more artsy, I think.
I'm not sure. I have to explore that. But yeah, Roberta Finlay
is. She's just a joy. She's so fun. Those are all my runners up.
I. I apologize, I had like 20 of them.
No, I'm glad, I'm glad you did. Hey there folks,
it's Richard. I'm just cutting in real quick because you know,
despite our long lists, we forgot stuff. Brad wanted me to
mention one of his other favorite things to watch every year
is the stone tape from 1972.
I have two. One belongs in my honorable mentions and that
is Trancers from 1984.
I love Trancers, but the one that annoys me the most
is I forgot to mention frickin to all.
A Good Night from 1980. I love this film, it would have been
in my top 10, but duh, I forgot it.
So there you go. Shout out to Simon who's a big fan of that film
as well. Okay, that's it. I go back to
being jolly by. All right Brad,
we're down, we're down to the wire here. I need to
know your number one Christmas horror movie
or show. No surprise here,
It's Black Christmas 1974,
one of Bob Clark's two Christmas masterpieces
along with the Christmas Story. It's amazing that this man
did two such disparate films so well.
I can't say anything about Black Christmas that I haven't already.
Many years ago I had a blog. I don't know if folks remember what those
were, but I interviewed some people
and one of the people peoples that I
interviewed was, hello, this is the Dune
show co host Jeffrey.
And one of my stock questions
was Halloween or Black Christmas?
And Jeffrey went Black Christmas.
And so I messaged him to see if I could to see
a. Ascertain if that was still true, which I assumed it was,
but I wanted to check it too. If I. If he didn't mind if I
mentioned it, of course he said yes.
He said I absolutely still rate Black Christmas over Halloween.
Much love for both, of course, but Black Christmas has the
intangible vibe for me that Halloween
lacks. It's the apple of my slasher.
Quote me on that. And so therefore I have.
Nice. Then that. That was what I
was thinking about way back when, when I said, black Christmas
is the Halloween of Christmas. Because it is.
Also, I asked Ted, I'm like, what's your favorite Christmas horror film?
And he's like, well, it's Black Christmas, isn't it? And I'm like,
yeah. I mean, if you're leaving it up to me, of course.
So. So, yeah,
those are my quotes. I wanted to quote Jeffrey.
It was good to hear from him. I hadn't heard from him in a
while, and we just don't talk a lot.
Yeah, he. He. He has built
a John Dixon car collection that makes mine a
mere pittance, which is fine. I'm so glad
he says I'm not. You think I'd be jealous?
Hate his guts, but I don't. I'm so. I'm thankful because
he's. He's living the dream. I don't know where he puts these books.
I asked him. I was like, are you opening a bookstore? He's like,
no, these are mine.
Hey, more power. I mean, we got way
too many books ourselves. Same big thing.
Not saying he's got too many. I'm just saying.
But he has built a beautiful collection of cars.
And it was. And he likes him. Yeah, that was so.
Because I think I introduced him to Takar. I have a lot of
people. Nice, Nice. But yeah,
I wanted to quote him on that. Gosh.
That. My blog is like a decade ago or
somewhere around there. Oh, man. I don't even. I don't even have the
password to get in.
It's just. It's just. It's. It's where it is
on the Internet. And that's where it'll be until they wipe
it off there. When they need some room. Yep. When they
need to clear that server space. That's right.
It's gone. So Yellow Razor.
Yep. Yep. Yellow Razor blog spot. Love it.
Yeah. Because Yellow Gallo Razor
murder. I mean, I think you're getting what I'm laying down
here.
God have mercy. What's your number one? God have mercy.
My number one is Silent Night, Bloody Night, as we talked about
1972. Oh, dang. Oh, yeah.
Yes. I really didn't know what it was going to be because I'm
stupid. We established that earlier. No way. I'm just. I'm just
zigging and zagging over here. No, the thing with this
movie that I wanted to mention is its title.
Its original title was Death House.
That's what is filmed under. And then
what happened was in 1984,
when Silent Night Deadly Night became such a huge hit,
the producers of Silent Night Bloody Night said, hey, wait a minute. We did
this first. We did this before Christmas. Evil. We did this
before Silent Night Deadly Night. So they re released it as Silent
Night Bloody Night. Now it says on IMDb original title,
but I don't believe that for a second.
Unless. Unless I'm mixing it up. And Silent Night Bloody Night didn't strike a fire
because they didn't have the. The legendary marketing
team that made Silent Night
Deadly Night such a freaking hilarious force to be reckoned
with. I mean, has a pic, has a picture,
sold a movie. More ever than just the rooftop
Santa coming out of the chimney or getting in the chimney.
Yes. Or the freaking. Yeah, that him just holding
that freaking 9 millimeter pistol. Oh my God.
Scary. Love it. But this one,
I have the promotional poster from
1980 on yet another re release
that was under the Death House title. I actually have a Death House magazine
ad that I bought off somebody or like a trade ad or something
like that that tells you like a little bit about the movie to see if
any distributors want to pick it up. And I don't think it
even mentions Christmas at all in it. So they really didn't know.
Wow. What they had. But yeah, it's friends
that's in the will. Yeah, Right. Yes,
exactly. Yep. It's gonna be part of my estate.
It's coming to me. It's all yours,
baby. So yeah. The coziness of
that movie that, the. The weird pacing.
We watched it for Movie Party Crew recently.
When I asked Scott about it, Scott was like, isn't that one gonna
put everybody asleep? And I'm like, nah, dude, everyone's gonna have a blast.
And yeah. You know, as far as like
the most successful,
like, you know, Internet watch parties of movies go,
I think our numbers speak for themselves with three to four
people may sometimes just me and Scott.
But no, you know, it's just the testament of that movie is.
Yes, it's slowly paced, but it just
is so much interesting shit happening. And then the
sepia tone is. It's not just in sepia tone,
it's in sepia tone plus some creepy filter
that makes things look like it makes it look like you're in like this weird
yellow hell. Like the.
The contrast is too high. Very strange.
Very strange movie. Oh, and of course,
Mary Warrenov. Oh my God.
Speaking of Night of the Comet. Oh, man.
Yeah. Would you have ever imagined Mary Warrenov would
have been a doubleheader in the Christmas horror classic section.
No, never. Never in a billion years.
And this movie, solid Night Bloody Night is the best, I think
probably the best of what I call the late night Saturday night horror films.
Yeah. My dream starts at 10:00.
Oh yes. Or 11, you know.
Yeah. My dream would be to that Radiance just says
it. Let's do it. If Radiance films I wish did
Silent Night Bloody Night, that would be a Christmas present for everybody.
Oh my God. I just want more information. Like that's the other thing
is. I mean you can look up all this stuff about it. But I
mean, while you know, Mary Warrenov
still around, they should really just. Just be like, do you remember
making this? Right. That'd be the
first question. Because I
mean she's so good in it. I mean that's. That's the thing. It's like there's
this nihilism between both like between that and
Night of the Comet with her character. Like her character
is like these extremes and they're totally different
characters. But it's just there's something about them.
And I find it funny that she ended up in this.
My list twice as you
did. Yes. And I'm looking at a poster with her
name on it. And actually we're
broadcasting from the living room for the first time
ever because the library is filled with boxes
for Christmas. Nice. Elizabeth's currently gone
to eat Indian food. And so Jack
is here beside me. Hey, pal.
And I don't know where Mabel went,
but anyway, House of the Devil. She's in it. And I've
got this giant poster. That's right. I see her name all the
time. My brain was reeling, trying to remember what it would be.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right. You're eating Raul poster.
Yeah, sure. Yeah. Actually there's one directly to
my left. I've got two hanging. That's how
much. Right. The house, the devil. I've got two pictures hanging in
the living room. If only it was a Christmas movie.
I'm telling you, Elizabeth, when we moved in here, she's like now I'm not
going to allow you to put all your. Our movie posters up in the living
room. And I said, okay, we'll do whatever you want.
She's like, we need. She's like, we need to put some horror film posters up
in the living room. And I'm like, what you want?
I'm here for you. I'm here to make you happy.
That's right. I am a good husband and merely
doing what what you're laying down.
That's right. Lietta gave me the horror hallway.
So I put all, I put all the horror movie posters in one hallway.
Yeah, I've got, I took pictures of everything in those hallways and now it
plays the slideshow and it's very disorienting, but I like to watch it.
That's awesome. I'm haunting you. Uh huh.
Yeah. Lots of. I. Hey, you should charge people
just to come through there. People would enjoy it. Richard's got a lot of
nice stuff. He's got a lot of nice posters and press
kits and stuff. I'll make it a dark ride.
You make it a dark ride. Then where they're done, they have
to pay extra to go through with the lights on. That's right. You enjoy that.
How would you like to see them now?
We're in Florida theme park, right? Dude, I'm telling
you, that's what it brought you guys here. You guys got to ride
our ride of our house. Yeah, that's right. We went to
Tampa's premiere horror hallway of
seventies horror films. That's right. Some eighties. You were,
you were here pre Cheese. Pre Cheese.
Yep. We hate it. We miss Cheese. But we missed the
other two as well because they hid the entire time. Yeah, I don't think that's
gonna change. But she. Next time you're not, next time
you're here, Cheese will absolutely come and hang out because Cheese loves,
she loves hanging with people. Yeah, she's the. I call her the
emissary of the cats. The cats emissary. Yep.
Yep. Yeah, we didn't know they were there. We really didn't.
I know. It was very funny how traumatized our cats were by
house guests. We had. They'd never experienced house guests that spend
the night before, so it was totally insane. Yeah.
We certainly did not mean to be threatening.
It's their fault. It's their problem. They missed out on all those pets. That's their
fucking problem. Well, they missed out on love.
They missed out on pure hog love.
Yeah, they did. We have cats of our own. We know how
to love a cat. That's right. Well man,
we did it. We taught Christmas. We did. Oh hey,
everybody should go to YouTube and put it throw in
there. W.F. harvey the clock.
It is like a 12, 13 minute ghost story. It's from the classic era.
Very unassuming and also terrifying.
If you're needing a ghost story for Christmas, throw that in there. I think bite
sized audio classics is your best bet.
I really like him and the way he reads.
Practically Anything British guy, you know, they could read
the phone book. But yeah, W.F. harvey Le
Clock. It's a great little ghost story out
of nowhere. Nice. Very cool.
And folks, thanks so much for listening 2024.
Thank you. This was a big year for the show. You know, we. We took
2023 off and we tried to come back with a vengeance.
And I hope you guys have enjoyed the. The comeback of
the show. Hope. I hope we brought it. Heck yeah.
I hope your 2024 was better than mine. It sucked.
Yeah. January. No. No, it wasn't.
No. This. This yet sucked here too.
Yeah. Don't cry for me, Argento.
I don't know what I'm doing anymore. I. I hope so. Few,
few. It's like I get nervous. Like it's 2011.
Yeah. You know, you. You want that first time feeling. I love
it. You do. You know what I hear?
And that's what you get. My favorite thing about the old
episodes, as far as I go, is my
voice was like almost an octave higher.
Did my balls drop from podcasting? I don't know
why my voice is so much deeper now. Maybe I hurt myself talking
so many years. I don't know. We can't confirm.
Yeah, well, you can if you want. I still
sound like a slight jawed yokel, but I don't mind. Your jaw's
pretty tight now. You're. I think your jaw's gotten tighter.
Well, I appreciate it. I've been doing all those exercises constantly.
You're a tight jawed yodel.
Yes. That's it. Yes. That's what you were gonna say.
Ugly who? You're like, hey, won't we do a Christmas horror?
I'm like, yeah, let's do it. And we did it. It's happened,
like, within a relatively short amount of time.
Yep. It's exciting. I'm glad you suggested it.
I've enjoyed it. I said ho, ho, ho when you said bro,
bro, bro. Let's do it. I did. Bro, bro,
bro. Yo, yo, yo.
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