The State Between Us

TSBU begins their study on the early-1980s information clearinghouse and private surveillance organization, Western Goals, focusing on two of its founders: the English scam-artist John Rees and martyred John Birch Society luminary, congressman Larry McDonald. The edgiest kids in the capitol, the threads of Western Goals weave their way from McCarthyists like Roy Cohn through Nazi intelligence agents around Gehlen to Cold War hawks and all the way up to present day American fascism under Trump.


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Reading:
Dorfman, Zach. "The Congressman Who Created His Own Deep State. Really." Politico. 2018.
Gelbspan, Ross. Break-Ins, Death Threats and the FBI: The Covert War Against the Central America Movement. South End Press, 1991.
Manzione, Elton. "The Private Spy Agency". The National Reporter. 1985.
Recluse. A Vast Right Wing Conspiracy: The Secret Origins of the Patriot Movement Part IV. VISUP blog. Link here. (Also check out "WACL VII: Eighties Part I w/John Brisson, Keith Allen Dennis, Moss Robeson, Don Diligent, & Recluse". Podcast. The Farm Mach II. 2022. Link here.)
Simpson, Christopher. Blowback: America's Recruitment of Nazis and Its Effects on the Cold War. Weidenfeld & Nicolson, 1988.

This episode also used documents from the Larry McDonald archives from Emory University and the online Ernie Lazar FOIA collection of FBI files.


Music:
Slime - "Polizei SA SS", 1980.
CCCP Fedeli Alla Linea. "Spara Jurij", 1983.
Also featuring compositions by Koleso Nešťastia and Ramona
Other music from youtube.com, pixabay.com, and fesliyanmusic.com

What is The State Between Us?

My name is Fritz McAlinden and this is The State Between Us, the anti-fascist podcast for dark dives into the ruling class insanity and fashy political cultures as well as our defenses against them through mutual aid and building each other up, sharing knowledge, and connecting the disparate voices in our overlapping struggles. Also TTRPGs, Sci-Fi, and other nerd shit. Let's get weird with it!