[MUSIC]
Straight into it.
I'll go straight in.
Such like a softball there.
I mean, you just threw
it up, knock it right out.
You know, a little
Austin Powers throwback.
It's not.
In my belly.
Of course I know that one.
That's not my bag, baby.
It's not my bag, baby.
Okay, so yeah, no.
Yeah, this is uncomfortable.
Comfortable.
You can't shoot, you can't
make free throw, win game.
Yep.
And you know, it's more fun when you win.
Everything in life is
way more fun when you win.
Winning.
Wow, you took us deep on that one.
Wow.
Right, and I don't
know anything about it.
Yeah.
I'm so behind the eight ball.
That's the one.
I think some of that was to make sure I
wasn't the crazy one.
Like I said, it's your date night topics.
It's interesting.
We're chewing on it.
Chewing on it.
But what I was not chewing on was food.
Oh, that was a great transition.
I love the high, I love a good high five.
You should probably work one in like
every couple of episodes.
We should.
It tastes so good in my mouth.
And I was dreaming about eating.
[LAUGHTER]
Like your beautiful blue eyes.
Yeah, my beautiful blue eyes.
And I mean, I am this
doppelganger, basically.
You're this doppelganger.
Coincidence?
Yeah.
I think that you just smell so good.
He beats you by an hour.
Yes, I know he's lying about this.
You're excited for it.
I am, yeah.
That's a little masochistic, but OK.
I mean, question mark?
Question mark.
For the next three years.
Yeah, so I'm--
Not the world I grew up in.
I mean, is that just a Texas
thing, or is that everywhere?
Obviously.
We performed at the Grand Ole Opry.
I mean, it was so bad for them.
You go out on a loss.
That's heartbreaking to me.
As long as you did your best.
Yes.
And if that's last place, that's great.
I was like, that girl will
lie, cheat, and steal to win.
But that's when that competitive nature
is on your shoulders, yours alone.
I mean, my palms were sweaty.
I was so nervous for her.
And she was like, I
don't think that goes away.
There's a weight.
Heavy as the crown.
Yeah, the pastor says this.
There's no hurt like kid hurt.
Some things have to be learned in the
school of hard knocks.
We do kudos to the listener
out there who knows what--
That bad, but we just don't
know what to do with down-hut.
I don't know how to relax.
But we're forcing you to go outside.
That's where it's like,
I'm just feeling as a parent.
I need to let you get over
your bad mood by yourself.
You're at 77 degrees.
How old am I?
OK, so for 30 years.
You're 30?
No.
I've been--
Well, sooner than later,
you'll be able to drive.
And you can finish your own--
Purple.
That work, kind of?
Not really.
Working really hard on that one.
That was really bad.
Got to come up.
We're trying so hard for
this terrible ending every time.
Podcasts.
Well, you finished it yourself.
That's it. That's a wrap.
Welcome to the "Mr. and
Mrs. English Podcast."
I'm Meghan.
And I'm Sean.
We're here to talk about
the wild ride of raising kids
and growing careers,
keeping life together
in the middle of all the chaos.
So buckle up, because we're all in this
crazy journey together.
That is crazy.
Episode 12 into April.
I knew it was episode 12.
Oh, I got to move this.
This little back thing
right here, I realized,
leaned me forward so much.
Because these are very deep.
They're very deep chairs.
Chairs that we are in.
You actually have one,
but I felt like for me--
I know.
I felt like for me
when I was sitting in it,
like it punched me and I was like,
"I look like I've got a
belly the way it sits me."
And you do not have a belly.
I don't have a huge belly
up, but I'm not bellyless.
Well, especially after this week.
And you're fast.
Oh, straight into it.
I'll go straight into it.
Well, you mean you gave me
such, like, a softball there.
I mean, you just threw it up.
Knock it right out.
I didn't mean to do that, but yeah,
I fasted this week
for the first time ever.
Really, that I tried.
Yeah. Right?
Do we want to go into that right now?
I do want to hit that, but gosh,
I was like going to
softball this into like,
"Here's what we did this week.
We're outside today.
Beautiful day. Cleaned up the--"
It is a beautiful day.
Yeah. Let's do general.
Let's just talk about
how nice of a day it is.
I mean, sun's out where we're at.
Yeah.
I wonder if it'll be out when this airs.
I wonder if the listeners can, you know,
if they can
sympathize with our sunny days.
Yeah. Well, I don't know.
I haven't really paid too much attention
to the weather this week.
All right. Well, I
mean, the biggest thing was,
I was going to talk about just the
disappointment of my Jayhawks slightly,
right? Just kind of what
happened back this week.
Wah, wah.
Yeah, I knew it.
I actually picked them in my
bracket to lose to Arkansas.
You did.
You had them going
out in the first round.
This is old news for
everybody at this point in time,
because now we're into the
Sweet 16-ish Elite Eight.
Yeah, we're Sweet 16 and Elite Eight.
By the time this comes out, by the time
people listen to it.
So, yeah, that was frustrating.
Yeah.
But I knew it was coming.
We just--we can't box
out. We can't rebound.
We can't shoot. We can't
make free throw, win game.
Yep. Yep.
There's a lot of things we can't do.
Our fifth-year senior,
who won a championship?
Yeah, Ed.
And, you know, he kind of peaked last
year, maybe, in his career,
and this year he turned the ball over.
Yeah, yeah. He just--he wasn't the same
player that we've seen, I think.
It's funny.
This is one of those
things that's funny to me.
Like, I know enough about the Jayhawks,
because we watched the Jayhawks men's
basketball team quite a bit,
as much as we can.
And the kids don't
watch it that much anymore.
Maybe because it was a boring year.
Maybe.
And, you know, it's
more fun when you win.
It always is.
Everything is in life.
Everything in life is
way more fun when you win.
Winning.
Yeah, yeah.
You know, but what was I
going to say about that?
I don't remember now.
Oh, I know what it was.
Is the fact that--I
don't watch a lot of other.
No, no.
Other than the teams like where we went.
You know, we watched Iowa football.
We watched Jayhawk
football now, too, because--
Yeah, we did.
Jayhawks have been okay lately.
But I am not the dad,
and you're not the mom.
Some moms are good at this, but a lot of
dads are really good at this.
They know everything
about, like, every team.
Like, I don't know
where they have the time
or what they substitute
to listen to talk radio.
Maybe they listen to talk--I know they
listen to talk radio.
Yeah, they must.
They don't really get a lot of it from--
if it's on the way of
commuting or what it is.
But I have got to
be--when it comes to sports--
and I'm a sports guy.
I love sports.
Oh, yeah.
I played all the sports.
Exactly.
But, I mean, I'm the most boring person
in the world to talk to about sports
because people are all, you
know, like, "Oh, the Big 12."
Like, they'll be talking
about things that are happening
that I should probably know about.
Like, I don't know if some of the
conferences are changing
or the portal and all that kind of stuff.
Like, all these big topics.
Yeah.
Right?
And I don't know anything about it.
Yeah.
Not to mention, they can pick out a
player at some college
that they didn't go to, and you're kind
of surprised they follow,
and then name the
stats of that one player.
And it's like, "Wow, that's--that is--"
In detail.
Yeah, it's impressive.
It is.
I don't know.
Isn't it just time of life
for us that we don't have that?
No, because most of our peers
are in the same time of life.
So, I mean, they're
literally, A, smarter than me by far,
which I probably say.
I don't think so.
But B, they're substituting time that I
use for something else
to learn about that.
Right.
You know?
It's not like I listen
to a lot of podcasts.
Like, I do listen to Smart List.
Yes.
But I haven't done that.
I mean, like, this week was one of the
first weeks I listened to it
in probably three months.
Right.
Because I've just been busy.
Right.
So, it's not like I'm listening to just,
you know, entertaining type things
or, you know, I don't take in a lot of
television and stuff like that.
No.
But somehow they're spending time
learning that stuff.
Yeah.
And I'm not.
Sometimes I just feel like
I'm so behind the eight ball.
Well, I don't know.
I think you're not behind the eight ball
in a lot of other things.
Of course.
And you are ahead of the eight ball in
all of the things that,
at least for me, count, right?
Yeah.
With family, career.
You're ahead of the
eight ball on all of those.
Yeah.
I'm up to speed on most, you know,
domestic issues, things you'll find
on, you know, in the news, the newspaper.
Absolutely.
I'm fairly educated when
it comes to those things.
But as we all know nowadays, those aren't
really safe topics to talk about
as much these days.
We're not going to have a podcast around those things.
We're not going to have, yeah.
And people who are on the sidelines don't
talk about it that much anymore.
No.
It's just everybody's known it's been
divisive for eight years or so.
Yeah.
Even if we kind of know where we're at,
people don't really, they've learned.
Early on, I think people are like hit you
in the head, like hit you in the face
with this is how I feel about this.
And, you know, I'm standing by this or
I'm totally against this, whatever it
might have been.
Thank goodness.
Most of that I feel like other than some
of the diehards on Facebook or the
diehards and other, you know, social
media where it's not as in your face.
Yeah.
It's definitely not face to face.
No, no.
That's been nice that that's not as much of an issue anymore.
We've all learned to just kind of ignore
and keep it in real life, which is
very small circles.
Probably not great, but anyways, so.
Okay.
Well, you took us deep on that one.
Wow.
We went into political issues like, not
really like some of the current events,
not really, but talking about how people
don't talk about them nowadays.
Because it's just too.
Well, you know, as I mentioned to you
earlier today, we're outside doing some
of the cleanup in the backyard.
And I've got there's three podcasts that
I just I have I have a passion for.
Right.
One is just the lighthearted.
Let's get your day off to a good start.
You know, stay positive in life, you
know, and you know, I
am someone that I I'm not
a guy that has to
have a saying every day.
Like I need someone to
inspire me today to get out of bed.
I don't need that.
But I enjoy.
Yeah.
I mean, it's a good story, a good
inspiring quote or something like that.
You know, they just they can sometimes
really resonate with you like.
Yeah.
And it's not every time that you hear one
that you're like, oh,
that that's the one,
you know, but every now and again, you
get those that are really that resonate.
But I mean, your podcast, you know, your
morning serial podcast is
such a great way to start
the day on a positive note.
It's funny.
It's quippy.
And yet you also talk about how to get
better as you read through
self-motivation books.
Yeah.
And my original degree was in psychology.
Yeah.
Right.
So I had a little bit of a interest in
that because I got my initial
undergraduate degrees
in that.
I think some of that was to make sure I
wasn't the crazy one.
Knowing the family I grew up in and
again, not trying to dig
up any old ghosts there
or whatever.
But but yeah, there
was a little bit of that.
Yeah.
And obviously you're not going to make
any money with a
psychology degree unless you
continue on in it.
Right.
You're going to be a doctorate.
But my point was, so I've
got that one lighthearted.
Yeah.
You know, you're not
digging into anything.
You know, it's not
super, super sophisticated.
You know, it's not overly educational
from, you know, I mean,
I've been in finance for
25 years.
So, you know, I don't it's not like I'm
having a finance talk show.
Right.
I'm talking about leverage and debt
ratios and, you know,
syndicated deals and, you know,
where the markets are at.
None of that.
Right.
And then we have this podcast, which I
think is great for just
kind of it's kind of light
levity.
Yeah.
This is more of like the
domestic type things, right?
This is about family life stories.
Yeah.
You know, like I said,
it's your date night topics.
Yeah.
You know, what did you do this week?
And sometimes you do have a serious topic
or two in which we have got it.
Like last week, we talked a little bit
about, you know, code
reds and, you know, the kids,
you know, being locked down in school.
But I've got the third podcast, which is
called Life Happens.
Yes.
And I haven't done anything with it
because my initial thought of
that was I want to interview
people that have had like a really good
story of overcoming an
obstacle and continue on
to persevere and be successful.
And I haven't pursued it greatly.
I did put some things out there just to
see if anybody, you
know, wanted to be on that
show and talk through some of those.
Because the intent of that show is that
that's a show I want to dig in on.
Yeah.
I want to have that show has teeth, like
to talk about real
subjects, you know, or I could
unpack Maya bringing a little bit more.
Right.
You know, unpack some of these other
issues a little bit more
in there, but still in a
positive direction and personal growth.
Right.
And if you look at the website, you know,
that's what it talks about.
You know, it's just this hierarchy of,
you know, kind of where you
are in this self-improvement
journey.
Right.
Until you get to a point
that's a very healthy individual.
And we're all in there somewhere.
Yeah.
And I think it's fluid to some degree.
Sometimes you make it up there and it's
like sliding and then
you have some slide back.
Right.
Life's like that.
But I talked about maybe you and I may be
doing some of that and
taking on some bigger
issues and we're just,
they were chewing on it.
Right.
And it's not that anybody needs more or
wants more of us, but I
do think there's room.
And even if it's just for
us, like this is fun for us.
Yeah.
But maybe that's also for us to, you
know, get some of those
bigger issue, deeper issue.
Yeah.
Type items out there.
I don't know.
Yeah.
It's interesting.
We're chewing on it.
Chewing on it.
But what I was not chewing on was food.
You were not chewing on food.
Oh, that was a great transition.
That's a high five.
That's like a third or fourth high five.
I know.
I did feel I love the,
I love a good high five.
You should probably work one in like
every couple episodes
we should, you know, high
five.
But that was a great transition because
you, you were, I was, I
did tell you how proud
I was of you that the morning when, when
you actually broke
your fast at breakfast.
But yeah, you went on a, was it 60 hours?
It ended up being 60.
Yep.
60.
Wow.
I've been thinking
about this for a while.
Yeah.
But you did not tell me you were on a
fast until like, well
until that evening and I
was like, Hey, do you want me to get you
something for dinner?
Cause you were running out of the house
with one of the kids.
Right.
And I was like, what do you want me to
make you so that you
can take it with you?
Right.
You're like, I'm fasting today.
You didn't even tell me about it.
So what made you pick that day?
I have to know.
I knew I'd done it before to some degree
for, you know, 18
hours at a time or whatnot.
And it's fine if I'm
not thinking about it.
And then I've heard, and I did some
research that there's some
really great health benefits
from it.
Yeah.
Right.
So plus you and I have always talked.
I mean, I talked to you a lot about like,
I just, you need to
help me watch my portions.
I love eating.
You know, you're a great cook.
We eat very well, you
know, and it's hard.
It tastes so good in my mouth.
So I want to put more.
I want more in my mouth.
Right.
Exactly.
So this time I did it and I didn't tell
you because I don't know.
I mean, I don't know that you're someone
that would get on board with doing fast.
And I didn't want to make you feel bad
about eating around me
because I was on a fast.
You know, so the longer I could hold off
telling you, like, I didn't
want you to feel bad eating
around me because I don't think a fast,
correct me if I'm wrong,
but maybe you will do it
in the future with me.
But you're not.
You like eating too.
All 105 pounds of you prove that.
Right.
I mean, you're lucky.
Some of us are not as lucky, right, to be
able to eat whatever
we want and still stay
small.
Well, I mean, you are not by any means
like roly poly, honey.
So I think it's OK.
I mean, I think you actually did it more
for health benefits.
I mean, yeah, there's a nice side effect
of you could lose weight.
And I mean, you were saying like water
weight even just like.
Yeah.
Well, it's not about losing weight.
Actually, it's about once you get past a
certain point and I
it's not exactly specific
and I didn't do enough research.
I didn't take the time because there's a
lot of other stuff going on.
But I think once you get past a certain
point, 24 hours or so,
the body at that point has
already burned off all the calories that
you ate from your previous meal.
Right.
And then it starts, I think, burning
glucose that's stored up
in muscles and protein and
whatnot.
And then but that only lasts for a short
period of time after that point.
Your body then starts burning, looking
for fuel in store fat.
Yeah, which is good.
So then it starts eating
store fat, which is good.
And that's one good side ones because
then so the body, you
know, there's something with
like insulin receptors and
uptake and all this kind of stuff.
So those either turn
off, turn on or turn off.
I can't remember what it is right now.
So there's like these two benefits.
But one of the big benefits is that at
some point, researchers
believe after that 24 hour
to 48 and further, because the body is no
longer focusing on
digestion, it turns its
focus elsewhere and it turns its focus to
cleaning up unhealthy
cells, you know, cells
that should be cleaned out of the body.
So the benefits of like regeneration and
clearing out dead cells.
So there's been some, I think, research
that shows like for it's
helpful for like helping
to prevent Alzheimer's.
And, you know, that's one of those
indicators that I have when
we took our blood tests and,
you know, 23 and me and whatnot, you
know, so I mean, like,
those are one of those things
that I'm thinking about.
Is there anything I can
do with living healthy?
Yeah, to maybe prevent that, you know,
because I don't want to
be 74, you know, or 64, 54,
you know, and have a disease catch me off
guard if I if there's something I can do.
That's relatively easy.
So I went 60 hours, it was hard the last
12 or overnight, and I
was dreaming about eating.
I was up a lot that night.
I was hungry that night.
And then I had that breakfast in the
morning, I put it on
Instagram, but I probably could
have gone further that day.
I feel like I'm
talking, I am talking a lot.
I've talked 80% of the
time on this podcast.
I'm sorry, everybody.
But you know, but I think 48 hours is
good, especially if you do it.
A true I was on a liquid coffee.
Yeah, one.
Yeah.
And halfway through it, I figured out I
was topping my coffee off
with cream that I thought
was non caloric.
It's no sugar, but it
does have some calories.
So the fact that I probably had 80
calories in the first 24 or 30 hours.
And don't get me wrong, that's a lot less
than I normally eat.
I was like, that's not enough to.
But that allows the body it doesn't
trigger some of those
health benefit triggers if you
have that.
I think I'm going to try to do 48 hour.
A 40 hour fast every month is what I
think I'm going to do,
which was pretty easy.
The first day was hard.
Yeah.
If you get to the first
day, the second day was cake.
Didn't even think about it.
Wasn't hungry at all.
See, that's crazy to me that by the
second day, you're like, yeah, it's fine.
That's what most people say.
I mean, from what I've researched.
Well, we watched that show.
It was really interesting.
So I'm just going to start calling you
Chris Hemsworth, right?
Well, for a lot of reasons.
For a lot of reasons.
Yeah.
You look just like him.
Like your beautiful blue eyes.
Yeah, my beautiful
blue eyes, my blonde hair.
Actually, I don't even
know if he has blue eyes.
My Thor physique.
Thor physique.
I mean, I am 6'4", just like he is too.
I mean, I am his doppelganger, basically.
You're his doppelganger.
Actually, we are friends with a guy
that's close to his doppelganger.
Yeah.
But it's, yeah.
You get stopped all the time.
Is his name Chris also?
Yeah.
I just put that together.
Coincidence?
Yeah.
I think not.
Dun, dun, dun.
No, I'm just kidding.
Anyway.
But he did a whole show, Limitless.
And it's these things that are, yeah,
they were to help him
live longer and stuff like
that.
And one of the things.
I think he had the same thing though.
He saw that he had this like Alzheimer's
flag or something like that.
He did, yeah.
In fact, they made kind
of a bigger deal of it.
Like he's coming down with Alzheimer's.
He's not.
I know.
It's true.
We aren't friends
with him, nor his doctor.
So we don't know.
But he was talking about the fast and he
did say that first day was really hard.
I remember there's actually a scene.
He's like cooking bacon for his kids and
he's like, I hate this.
You know?
Yeah.
Which, you know, at least I didn't cook
bacon while you are on
your fast because that's
one of those things that.
Yeah.
It just smells so good.
Yeah.
That dinner that night was
really good that you cooked.
So anyways, yeah.
That was interesting.
That was my first one, really.
It was funny because I've got a cousin
that I sent an Instagram out to.
Yeah.
Or I sent an
Instagram out saying 60 hours.
I made it.
Anybody up for the next one?
Well, he texted me back almost
immediately later that day.
He was like, I just
finished a 61 hour fast.
He beat you by an hour.
Yes, I know he's lying about that.
I mean, oh, it just so happened.
61.
60 hours in five minutes.
Yeah, exactly.
That's five minutes more.
Excuse me.
Anyways, but he's trying
to do a hundred hour fast.
Whoo.
Which seems crazy.
I mean, that seems too much to me.
48 seems about right.
Yeah.
And I'll be curious if on the next one,
if it's different
because I can't cheat on that.
That first 30 hours I had that creamer
and I didn't realize it.
Yeah.
So maybe that maybe I would have felt a
lot more hungry the first
or second day if I hadn't
done that.
Maybe easier because you
know what to expect more now.
I don't know.
I'm not sure.
Yeah, I'm excited for it.
So I'll do one in April.
You're excited for it.
I am.
Yeah.
That's a little masochistic, but okay.
Well, I mean, I always, I mean, as you
get older, you want to
take care of your body.
Yeah.
And we are not getting younger.
You know, and I think that's one of the
things that, you know, a
lot of people, I think that
listen to her in the same age group or
they've been through this before.
And if you're even, even if you're at an
older age, it's even
more important probably
to take care of your body and making
healthy decisions, you
know, just to try and make
sure that those, you know, older years
are healthy and enjoyable.
Right.
You know?
Yeah.
All right.
Well, I just talked for 20 minutes.
So it's your turn to talk.
I don't know.
I told you that morning.
I was like, I'm really proud of you.
I didn't want to say too much at the time
because it's one of those things.
Like if I keep bringing it up, like, oh
my gosh, it's so cool.
You're on this faster.
I'm so proud of you.
You're so great.
Part of it's like, I didn't want to bring
up food in front of you because I'm like,
I don't want to remind
you that you're not eating.
Yeah.
That's what I did afterward.
Yeah, it was fine.
No, it was fine.
It was interesting.
So I'm excited.
You know, I am excited to try it again.
Yeah.
And hopefully some of those benefits
that, I mean, the
benefits are all on paper, right?
It's nothing that really can measure.
I didn't, I didn't, I didn't even weigh
myself before or after.
Right.
So it's not like I was like, oh, I lost
10 pounds of water weight.
That wasn't the point of it.
Points just to be more healthy.
I do need to eat less.
Portions are way too much for me.
Like even since then, my portions on
those last, these last two
days have just felt higher.
And maybe I didn't eat that much more
than usual, but maybe I
shrunk my stomach a little
bit.
Right.
And it felt like way more because right
now I feel like my
belly is way out there.
My belly.
Your belly?
Well, it's not.
Get in my belly.
You know that one?
Oh yeah.
I know you know that one.
Of course I know that one.
I think most people are a
generation know that one.
I think so.
You know, little Austin Powers throwback.
That's right.
Such a funny movie.
I wonder if that's appropriate for kids.
That's one family.
That's movie we have
not watched with a family.
I wonder if it'd be
appropriate for the kids.
That's not my bag, baby.
Okay.
So yeah, no.
Might not yet be.
There's a lot of scenes coming back right now that are just.
It might not yet be. It's not mine.
It's not my bag, baby.
Okay.
Not probably
appropriate for our kids yet.
Great movie.
But yeah, there's a couple of scenes in
that that aren't ready for it.
You know, movies I think have changed
over the last few years.
Like what we watched in the 80s.
I mean, PG 13 in the 80s.
Holy cow.
Not appropriate.
I mean, that's easy and
our rated our movie nowadays.
Yeah.
Easy ours.
I mean, we've made that
mistake a couple of times.
Footloose was one like I do.
I did not remember some of those scenes
and I was like, Oh my.
Like, cause we're
like, Oh, it's a classic.
You kids will love it.
We're like, close your eyes, everyone.
Close your eyes.
Mm hmm.
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
There's a lot like that.
If you haven't watched yet some classics,
but they might, they
might just have to watch
those on their own.
There are some things as a parent.
Yeah.
I don't want to be sitting there with my
kid when they see it.
Yeah.
I mean, even as an adult, I remember one
time watching Saturday
Night Live with your mom
or something like that in the room.
And I was just like,
yeah, this is uncomfortable.
Uncomfortable.
We watched.
Remember there was that one time we
watched The Notebook and
your stepdad was there.
Yeah.
And there was that one
scene where it's like, yeah.
Yeah.
Cause I completely thought
that was an innocent movie too.
There is one scene in that.
It's like, is your bed
comfortable down there?
I mean, are you saying warm enough?
I get you anything like a water.
Yeah.
Do you want to get it?
I'll call you back up when we're ready.
Oh, it's funny.
We'll call you back up
when the scene's done.
Yeah.
Oh, well.
Yeah.
Well, the other big thing that happened
this week was our oldest
was in his second varsity
game.
Yes.
Yeah.
It was really cool.
Um, they were in the playoffs.
Yeah.
It's playoff time now, which by the way,
the first game of the
playoffs is during spring
break.
I mean, question mark, question mark for
the next three years.
Yeah.
So I guess no spring break trips for us
for the next three years.
I guess not.
I guess we know that now.
Yeah.
And so we can plan accordingly.
Yeah.
We should probably remind all the kids
that, you know, spring
break is not going to be
like what it used to be.
Although did you have that?
Because I mean, you played all the
sports, um, at least where
I was from basketball was
a winter sport.
And so there was always basketball, like
practices and games over Christmas break.
And so, you know, the basketball, if you
skipped one over
Christmas break, you didn't play.
Did you have that?
Yeah, definitely over Christmas break.
Yeah.
So you couldn't go anywhere at Christmas.
It was never thought.
Okay.
Over Christmas.
Got it.
Maybe it was the thought.
Oh, you guys did.
You guys did some traveling.
We never, yeah, we never had.
We've always spent
Christmas at my grandparents house.
Yeah.
So no, that was not a thing for us.
I think maybe twice we went out, but we
had one grandparents in town.
Yeah.
We did Christmas away twice, I think way
before I ever played sports.
I mean, okay.
I think I was eight the
last time we did it, maybe.
Got it.
Well, and you did have family.
You had quite a bit of
family that was like in the area.
We didn't have any family in the area.
So to see family at Christmas time.
Yeah, we did.
We went to them.
That's right.
Yeah.
Okay.
So you never went out
anywhere over Christmas because.
Well, Christmas break is not at least the
way I grew up is not a
time when most people
are like Christmas break.
Let's go on holiday or
let's go on vacation.
Right.
Yeah.
That's just not the world I grew up in.
I mean, spring break was
definitely a time to go.
I think most people think
about that now or over the summer.
Right.
Now we have fall break.
Which is weird to me.
I'm going to be honest.
I don't know why all of a sudden this
year we decided to give
kids a week off in the
middle of the fall.
A whole another week off.
I get a long weekend,
but in October, right?
I think it's October.
Yeah.
And then you get another week off
basically in November.
Yeah.
For Thanksgiving.
Two weeks.
Is that just a Texas
thing or is that everywhere?
I don't know.
We always had like a long weekend.
Like when I grew up, we had a long
weekend in the middle of
October and our kids up
until this past year always had like a
long weekend, right?
You got two days off.
You got that Thursday, Friday, and then
the weekend that was
usually that was considered
the fall break up until this year.
Now it's a full week.
And I think working parents are all like,
Oh, why are we doing this?
I just, again, I will
say on this, I do not know.
Kudos to those of you that work in an
office or have to go or
to, you know, I don't know
how people, if you don't work from home,
I don't know, and
have a flexible schedule.
I don't know how you do it.
How you do anything.
Especially the age our kids are.
Yeah.
You know, like I think people who have
little kids, they still
have to take them to daycare.
Right?
Because you can't work at
home and have a toddler, right?
You got to actually watch your toddler.
They can get into trouble.
Whereas like I trust that our 13 year old
is not going to stick
her finger in a light
socket.
Right.
So, but yeah, I don't, but
the, but we're gone so much.
We have to get them here and there.
I don't know how we would do that if we
had to go to an office.
I have no idea.
It's a different world now.
It's a different animal.
Totally different.
But back to the game,
that was another thing.
Yeah.
Cause we had to leave it like five
o'clock to get all the way, way far away.
I mean, what we had to drive an hour to
get to this game or something.
It was felt like that.
Well, I mean, yeah, it was a long ways.
We drive forever.
I mean, anybody that
lives in the DFW area.
So I grew up in Colorado Springs, which
is an hour south of Denver.
And anytime we had to play in Denver,
whether it was soccer or
basketball or whatever the
support was, that was like a
long ways to go to go to Denver.
It was a big deal.
It's like, we got to go to Denver.
I had an uncle that lived in there.
We have to go to Denver.
Yeah.
It was like a trip.
Yeah.
Well, that's actually shorter than
basically where we go
every night to practice almost.
Almost.
For soccer.
Mm-hmm.
And then almost, what, 90%
of our games are that far.
Are that far.
So when you say we drove an hour, I mean,
it was probably not
that much further than
we usually go, what, we go northeast a
little bit or just more east.
This time we went south of Fort Worth,
which is just a way worse highway.
It's a way worse community.
Yeah.
Community is terrible.
It's just a lot worse, I think.
Yeah.
But I mean, overall, it
was super cool to see.
And I was really proud.
I think the whole team played so well.
But it was one of those games that it
just, it broke your
heart because you know that
that could be the last
game for those seniors.
Yeah.
And you're like, I just, my heart went
out and I remember
telling you in the middle of
the game, I was like, I'm going to
remember sitting here
with my kid as a, how do you
remember, as a freshman, feeling like,
Hey, at least I still
have three more years of
this, like win, lose or otherwise.
Like I still have another few years of
this, but when that's when
I'm sitting here in three
years, I'm going to be a wreck.
I think it's a different, yeah, I think
it's a different
feeling when, because I'm not
aware that any of those
seniors are playing in college.
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't think so.
Our oldest didn't tell us
that any of them worked.
I don't think any of them are.
So yeah, I think, you know, that's a
closing of an era for
someone that, you know, they've
probably played soccer the whole
childhood life through high school.
And a lot of people play high school
sports, but I mean, you
know, if you're not going
to, if you're not kind of that next
echelon athlete playing
in college, that's it for
you.
You're, you're done.
And that's, that's gotta be
a big deal to some people.
I know you feel bad.
Yeah.
It's a closing of the chapter.
And well, even without that, right.
I mean, like you, you were a
dancer your whole life, right?
So you danced and I mean, I don't think
you danced in college that I'm aware of.
No, I don't know that.
I don't know.
I mean, I just don't
even know if that existed.
It was my, my point.
Yeah.
My point to that was, um, but I mean,
like, how did you feel
when you knew it was kind
of your last performance?
Yeah, I, it was sad.
It was really sad.
Yeah.
And it helped that we, that last
performance we did really
well, at least, you know, for
high school, we did really well.
And so that helped that.
But I mean, it's still just like, that's
the last time I'm going to step onto that
floor or that stage or.
Were you thinking of it
when you stepped onto it?
No.
Okay.
No.
After you were stepping off.
Mm hmm.
Yeah.
And then it, then it's just kind of sad.
Is that the swing choir?
No.
So we were, we did have show choir.
That one was different.
That one night we did know.
I don't think that
actually was our last performance.
I was the last
competition, but we went to nationals.
We were number two in the nation.
Yeah.
Um, and we honestly, the,
the one that one should have.
So I don't think, like, I remember being
like, I'm super proud of that.
We did really, really well.
Do they base Glee off of your?
Obviously.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
Love Glee though.
It was a really cool show.
Yeah.
I mean, that was super fun.
It was so different.
And yeah, but that was a
really close knit group.
And yeah, it was
really, it was pretty cool.
Like I think we're all pretty proud of
the fact that we did that.
And sure.
Second in the nation.
It's nothing to snub.
Not that all high schools have one and
stuff like that, but it was for total.
We performed at the grand old Opry.
I mean, how many people can say that
they've performed on that stage?
Like that's pretty cool.
Yeah.
It's an awesome experience.
I don't know.
How did you feel like when
you knew it was your last game?
I mean, I was aware of it for sure.
You know, my, I remember this, I'm
talking about basketball right now.
I mean, I was aware of it, you know, but
I was, I already knew
I was going to college.
So I knew I'd play more.
But I was aware of, you know, like he, it
was in a way game and
coach pulled me out,
you know, so that I could get innovation.
Yeah.
Innovation.
So people could clap for me.
Yeah, of course.
They could clap out.
Yeah.
So I did get, you know, a
nice, you know, send off.
For that, you know, and so I remember
tears came into my eyes
because I got a good send
off.
Yeah.
You know, and that felt good that I was
appreciated at that point in time.
But I don't, I don't remember being sad
that it was like, Oh,
I'll never play, you know,
high school basketball because I was
going on to play college ball.
So I wasn't, I wasn't sad about that.
I was excited for the
next level, I think.
Yeah.
At that point in time.
But, you know, I can, I can see how, you
know, I mean, I never,
I never really had that.
So I mean, it's tough to, yeah.
You know, if, if, if for my, for my
basketball, quote unquote,
you know, career, if, if I
had known the last time I was playing was
the last time I was
playing, it would have
been really emotional.
Yeah.
Because I was never there.
I have no, I was never going in
professional, you know, I
was, I would have been a solid
collegiate player.
Player, yeah.
Likely would have gone whatever.
But yeah, if I would have known, I think
it would have been really sad.
Yeah.
And I'm sure that's how it is for these,
these people that you're
talking about and their
parents and whatnot.
And maybe it's more sad
for the parents too, right?
Probably the parents.
It's a lot into one.
It's a lot of stuff being wrapped into
one, you know, it's this
childhood for 18 years.
It is slowly but surely wrapping up.
That's wrapping up.
And, you know, and most
people don't close on a win.
Like I think that's, that's why it's like
everyone wanted like
Michael Jordan to retire
after he won, you know,
the last championship.
Everyone wanted Tom Brady after he won
his last Super Bowl.
It's like, because you want him to go out
on a win, but most people don't.
And obviously because we didn't go on, it
was their last game.
It was kind of a winter go home situation
for this particular playoff game.
And went to penalty shootouts.
And it's like that kid who, you know, if
it was blocked or
missed, it's just like, oh,
it feels so bad for them.
You go out on a loss.
That's heartbreaking to me.
And we talked about on the way home that
almost everybody goes out on a loss.
Almost everyone goes out on a loss.
Most people don't.
I mean, my senior year, we went out on a
loss for soccer too.
We were favored in state
that year and we lost first run.
And that was like, whoa.
Yeah.
I think we were shocked.
So you didn't even
have a chance to enjoy it.
Yeah.
Oh my God.
We were just kind of shocked
at the, I had a quick upset.
Yeah.
So that was one, but, you know, soccer, I
played for 13 years,
whatnot, but it was not
my love.
Yeah.
I played soccer because I was athletic.
Yeah.
You know, but so I
wasn't like sad about that.
I don't think.
And so most people do, most people go out
on an L unfortunately.
And that's what's,
that's really sad to me.
I don't know.
Maybe I'm just really
emotional this week for some reason.
I don't know why I would be, but you
know, it hit me as kind
of hard because I just,
I will always remember sitting back
there, you know,
especially when our oldest is or
any of our kids are seniors wrapping it
up, at least for
their high school career.
And maybe, you know, there's, there's
chance they go on and
play more, but, or run more
if it's, you know,
our daughter, who knows.
But how, how, I mean, it was just a
really cool experience
for our oldest though.
Right.
It was, he was, if anybody saw the
Instagram thing, they,
they have a program for it and
they listed all the players and their
ages and their, their,
their year in school and
whatnot.
And he was the, our
oldest was the only freshmen.
There was no, there's not
even a sophomore, right?
He was the only freshmen
on both team that was there.
Yep.
So he got to partake in and he got his
name called out when they went out.
He didn't play.
He did not know.
But, but I mean, just what a cool
experience for him to see it.
He's got three years
that he will play in.
He will.
Yeah.
You know what I thought was really cool.
I think we've talked about this before.
You know, he's more of
our introverted kid, right?
Like the other two will have friends over
and he's like, no, I'm good.
I'll just hang out with, you know, you
guys or, or whatever.
But it was really cool to watch him
interact on the sidelines with everyone.
Yeah.
And I mean, he's younger than the next
person on the team by two years.
Yeah.
And he, he acted like he had been a part
of the team forever.
Yeah.
And he was kind of joking with them.
And he was one of the first people to go
over to the kid who
missed the shot, which is what
was kind of that nail in the coffin in
the penalty shootout.
And our son was the
first to go over to him.
Yeah.
I took note of that and
it was, it was pretty cool.
Yeah.
But he did that.
It's like he knew.
So it was good.
It was a proud parent moment.
Yeah.
So.
Yeah.
And it was, it's like, you know, we can
be proud of him even
though he didn't play.
Right.
I mean, it's just like the experience,
just getting the call up
on it, you know, and it's
not that he's the only one that is cool,
but I just, you know,
it's, I keep trying to hammer
to the kid, you know, win our love or our
approval for us to be
proud of you, you know?
Right.
It's great when you are like when I was,
it's great when you are,
when, you know, our, our
daughter's destroying people, you know,
but she's going to be,
we're going to have the
state champ or not this champ.
The city champ.
Yeah.
The city champion meet this week.
This week.
And she's going to go
against the best of the best.
And there's another girl
that's close to her time.
Yeah.
So, you know, she, and
she's been blowing people out.
She has.
But she may not, you know,
and it's like, it's okay.
That's okay.
Don't, you know, you've got more time.
You're going to race against the same
girl for the next probably six years.
Yeah.
You know, you might race against her
because she's also on club track.
Yeah.
This girl might be in club track too.
And you might go against her at all the
national champ, you
know, so get used to it.
I remember the first guy that beat me.
I told her that.
I don't know if I mentioned it on here,
but I mean, yeah, I was, I did.
No, I don't think you did, but like, I
was gonna say, yeah, I
mean like I was, I was
also very, I feel like a braggy docious
now in my stuff here.
I'm not trying to be, but
I was being very factual.
You were very fast.
Actually, I had never lost a race until I
remember the first race I lost.
I was in ninth grade because I was fast.
I, you know, I held
records and, you know, stuff too.
But I remember the guy that first got a
beat me and he and I
were head to head and toe
to toe, you know, in high school.
And he went on to play, you know, at the
Oregon Ducks as a running back.
His sister won an Olympic medal, you
know, so it's like, you
know, again, I'm not going
to go professional at being a track
athlete either, but it's,
you know, it's one of those
things where it's like, be proud of what
you were good at as
long as you did your best.
Yes.
Right.
And if that's last
place, you know, that's great.
You do your best and
that's where you placed.
I will take that all day.
Yeah.
I'm actually, I've started like trying to
help our daughter
because she is prepared for
the fact that like, this is going to be
the toughest meet that she's had.
I just want her to do her best.
She's the first time
she's been pushed to.
So I'll be curious to
see how she reacts to that.
She's super competitive as well.
Like I, you, I thought our boys were
competitive, which they are.
She far and away beats them.
Like even though the games, the around
the world game that
you all were playing last
night, I was like, that girl will lie,
cheat and steal to win.
She will manipulate the, manipulate all
of the components to
make sure that she comes
out on top.
Yeah.
It's just a, it's a
different factor though.
When it's like board games or like that
game we were playing,
opposed to when you're sitting
there it's you because track and field is
an individual sport
for the most part, you
know, and that's a different feeling.
I mean, that is one I do get nervous
about because I
remember being in the blocks.
I remember waiting for that starting gun.
And you know, I feel that for, but that's
one where that
competitive nature is on your
shoulders and yours alone, yours alone.
Yeah.
You're ready in, you know, tracks one
that you just, you just never know.
Some days you're ready for that race.
And some days you're like, I don't know.
I don't know what didn't
click, but I didn't run as fast.
I've run, you know, so
much faster than that before.
Yeah.
It just didn't click tonight.
Yeah.
It honestly, so in the last track meet, I
was sitting, well, we
were sitting, you had
happened to walk away, um,
to film at that point in time.
And I was like, I was talking to our
friend who, she actually
was a college track athlete
and I was like, is it nervous that I, I
mean, is it bad that, I
mean, my pole, my pole,
my poles were sweaty.
I was so nervous for her.
And she was like, I
don't think that goes away.
And I was like, dang it.
Yeah.
Cause it's different when they're part of
a team and okay, if
they mess up, there's other
players on that team that could help fix
that error some somewhere, right?
Before it goes against you, there's
nothing else out there, but
you know, the track athlete.
Yeah.
You know, I was just sitting here
thinking to what it is
for me is it has nothing to
do with winning or losing.
I'm nervous for how they hurt if they
don't win because we're,
we're blessed that we have
athletic children and generally speaking,
it's mostly blue ribbons in this house.
And again, we're blessed and I'm not
trying to be
braggadocious about that, but because
of that, there's a weight,
heavy as the crown, right?
There's a weight to that, that if you
were to consider and it will happen.
There's always going to be somebody
bigger, better, faster at
some point as you get further
along in this, but that's a, you know,
that's a sour pill to take.
I know there's a saying, but it is.
And they're, our pastor says this,
there's no hurt like kid hurt.
And when your kid hurts, exactly.
That's what it is.
I just, I get nervous for them hurting.
I know.
You know, I celebrate them
feeling cloud nine when they win.
You know what I mean?
Cause I'm so happy that they are having
that feeling and that experience.
Yes.
And it is devastating.
And something that I didn't appreciate
until I became a parent.
Yeah.
How much you hurt when your kid hurts.
Yeah.
Whether it's a loss, whether it's, you
know, they feel sad about something.
I mean, it doesn't matter what it is.
And everything you do is to protect them
from it, which is so funny.
It's a whole nother.
I mean, we're getting long now because
we're trying to keep it
short on this shorter on
this one.
Everything you do as a parent
is to stop them from hurting.
Right.
Prepare, like get good grades and in
school so you can go to
a good college and get a
good job.
So you don't have to hurt, you know, not
making enough money to buy
groceries or I mean, that's
all these are everything builds.
You don't have to hurt some way.
You don't have to feel the pain some way.
And that's the ultimate letdown for a
parent is that some
things have to be learned in
the School of Hard Knocks.
They do.
Despite the fact that we
could tell you the way to do it.
Yes.
But they wouldn't
necessarily learn how to deal with it.
Right.
If they never hurt.
Right.
And so it's just, I don't
know how to balance that.
I mean, that's something that I think I
struggle with because it's
like, I know I need to let
them deal with that.
You know, I need to give them space or
whatever it is to deal
with it in the way that they
want to deal with it.
But I don't want, I
don't want the consequence.
Like I don't want them
even though they need it.
And it's, I don't know.
I wasn't expecting that.
Yeah.
But neither was Jamie Lawson.
Neither was Jamie Lawson.
Okay.
Kudos to the listener out there who knows
what we that inside
joke that we just said.
Jamie Lawson.
So anyway, well, we are getting long, but
we kind of talked
about what's coming up next
week.
I mean, we have the meat of champs.
You have champs.
It'll be a big one.
Yep.
It'll be a big one.
And the kids are going back to school.
The kids are going back to school.
Yeah.
Hallelujah.
It hasn't been that bad, but they just,
we just don't know
what to do with downtime.
It's like me.
I don't know how to relax because I've
always got so much to do.
I just, I don't know what to, I don't
know how to relax, but
our kids don't know what
to do when we don't have soccer practice
and we don't have somewhere to go.
No, they don't.
I mean, they, video games, unfortunately
take a lot of that time.
One of our kids was mad today because
we're like, it's super nice.
Get outside.
You're forcing me to go outside.
That's where it's like, I'm just failing
as a, you know, a parent.
No, because I think that's pretty common.
Like, I don't know.
They don't get a whole
lot of downtime to do that.
Although he did go outside and then like
the second time he went
out, he actually was in
a good mood.
So again, this is one of those things
where it's like, I need
to let you get over your
bad mood by yourself.
Right.
Um, so I don't know.
Yeah.
That's the big thing this week.
Yeah.
I mean, it's, it's, we're
finally turning a corner.
It is getting nice out.
Yeah.
It feels like it's been a long winter.
I'm eating every meal this week.
Your back is better.
My back's better.
Your knee is healing.
It's healing.
You're at 77 degrees.
77 degrees.
So, um, you know, I'm
starting to bend it and.
You're walking around everywhere without
crutches, which is fantastic.
Which is like, that's a
whole new lease on life.
Yeah.
You're probably two weeks away from
driving, which will be
another whole new lease on life.
Oh, it really will.
I, it's such a burden or not a burden
that you don't want to
take, but like it's a lot
for you.
There's a lot of driving in our household
and I am excited to
actually be able to drive
because for, uh, how old am I?
But okay.
So for 30 years, you're 30.
I've been driving for.
Wow.
You're going to sell
that one to the team.
I've been driving for 30 years.
And so it's, there is
something that's like, I don't know.
You just feel handcuffed when you're
like, I can't just run
to the store because I, I
need to get something.
Yeah.
So now I need to ask you to go to the
store to get something that I forgot.
You're very homebound to
now that's getting nicer out.
It's just like, you want to go outside.
I kind of just, yeah, I really just kind
of want to drive to CVS
and like, I don't know.
I'll pick up some deodorant.
I don't know.
I don't care, but I
want to be able to do it.
Right.
Well, sooner than later you'll be able to
drive and you can
finish your own carpools.
Carpools.
Does that work kind of?
Not really.
Working really hard on that one.
That was really bad.
Yeah.
I was trying to, you
know, finish your own.
Yeah.
I mean, we've got to come up.
I'm just saying we've got to come up.
We're trying so hard for this terrible
ending every time and it's terrible.
We got to find a better one.
I think.
I, you know, people should comment.
Listeners, I was just
going to say, have this.
Let's comment and, and, and come up with
a better ending because closing.
Yeah.
We want to be able to
finish each other's podcasts.
Well, you can finish it yourself.
That's it.
That's a wrap.
Sign off, sign off on it.
All right.
Well, I think we should let it go, right?
All right.
We should, but have a great week everyone
and we will see you back next week.
See you.
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Straight into it.
I'll go straight in.
Such like a softball there.
I mean, you just threw
it up, knock it right out.
You know, a little
Austin Powers throwback.
It's not.
In my belly.
Of course I know that one.
That's not my bag, baby.
It's not my bag, baby.
Okay, so yeah, no.
Yeah, this is uncomfortable.
Uncomfortable.
You can't shoot, you can't
make free throw, win game.
Yep.
And you know, it's more fun when you win.
Everything in life is
way more fun when you win.
Winning.
Wow, you took us deep on that one.
Wow.
Right, and I don't
know anything about it.
Yeah.
I'm so behind the eight ball.
That's the one.
I think some of that was to make sure I
wasn't the crazy one.
Like I said, it's your date night topics.
It's interesting.
We're chewing on it.
Chewing on it.
But what I was not chewing on was food.
Oh, that was a great transition.
I love the high, I love a good high five.
You should probably work one in like
every couple of episodes.
We should.
It tastes so good in my mouth.
And I was dreaming about eating.
[LAUGHTER]
Like your beautiful blue eyes.
Yeah, my beautiful blue eyes.
And I mean, I am this
doppelganger, basically.
You're this doppelganger.
Coincidence?
Yeah.
I think not.
You just smell so good.
He beats you by an hour.
Yes, I know he's lying about this.
You're excited for it.
I am, yeah.
That's a little masochistic, but OK.
I mean, question mark?
Question mark.
For the next three years.
Yeah, so I'm--
Not the world I grew up in.
I mean, is that just a Texas
thing, or is that everywhere?
Obviously.
We performed at the Crandall Offrey.
I mean, it was so bad for them.
You go out on a loss.
That's heartbreaking to me.
As long as you did your best.
Yes.
And if that's last place, that's great.
I was like, that girl will
lie, cheat, and steal to win.
But that's when that competitive nature
is on your shoulders
and yours alone.
I mean, my palms were sweaty.
I was so nervous for her.
And she was like, I
don't think that goes away.
There's a weight.
Heavy as the crown.
Yeah, the pastor says this.
There's no hurt like kid hurt.
Some things have to be learned in the
school of hard knocks.
We did kudos to the
listener out there who knows what--
That bad, but we just don't
know what to do with downtime.
I don't know how to relax.
They're forcing me to go outside.
That's where it's like,
I'm just feeling as a parent.
I need to let you get over
your bad mood by yourself.
Your knee is healing.
It's healing.
You're at 77 degrees.
How old am I?
OK, so for 30 years.
You're 30?
Well, sooner than later,
you'll be able to drive
and you can finish your own--
That work, kind of?
Not really.
Working really hard on the toy.
That was really bad.
Got to come up.
We're trying so hard for
this terrible ending every time.
Podcasts.
But you should finish it yourself.
That's it.
That's a wrap.