1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,089 Dr. Lotte Valentin: Just a split second 2 00:00:01,129 --> 00:00:02,160 I'm outside my body. 3 00:00:02,649 --> 00:00:05,669 But this second experience is so different from the first. 4 00:00:06,249 --> 00:00:09,159 And now I'm just tumbling through darkness. 5 00:00:09,199 --> 00:00:10,879 So it's more like a Star Wars movie. 6 00:00:11,169 --> 00:00:15,069 Like I'm traveling through space as a soul. 7 00:00:15,805 --> 00:00:18,235 And I get to this place that I call the midstation 8 00:00:18,265 --> 00:00:21,904 only because I knew that there were levels. 9 00:00:25,194 --> 00:00:26,714 Rod Bland: My guest today is Dr. 10 00:00:26,754 --> 00:00:30,714 Lottie Valentin, a physician, a medical medium, an ancestral 11 00:00:30,714 --> 00:00:34,064 healer, and an author of Med School After Menopause. 12 00:00:34,094 --> 00:00:36,814 And she survived two near death experiences that 13 00:00:36,884 --> 00:00:38,504 gave her psychic abilities. 14 00:00:38,504 --> 00:00:40,524 And she's here to talk to us about that today. 15 00:00:41,044 --> 00:00:41,684 Welcome Dr. 16 00:00:41,684 --> 00:00:42,044 Lottie. 17 00:00:42,044 --> 00:00:42,734 Dr. Lotte Valentin: Well, thank you so 18 00:00:42,734 --> 00:00:43,574 much for having me. 19 00:00:44,044 --> 00:00:44,714 My pleasure. 20 00:00:45,649 --> 00:00:47,340 Rod Bland: So could you firstly, just give us a 21 00:00:47,340 --> 00:00:49,979 little bit of background about what it was like for 22 00:00:49,979 --> 00:00:53,934 you growing up and then why don't we jump into your NDE's? 23 00:00:54,028 --> 00:00:55,388 Dr. Lotte Valentin: Yeah, So I was actually born 24 00:00:55,398 --> 00:00:58,268 and raised in Sweden, which is in Scandinavia 25 00:00:58,268 --> 00:01:01,058 or Northern Europe, just underneath the Arctic pole. 26 00:01:01,588 --> 00:01:05,288 The reindeer lives in my country, Santa Claus, right? 27 00:01:05,788 --> 00:01:09,338 So growing up in, in Sweden was, uh, obviously different 28 00:01:09,338 --> 00:01:10,158 cause it's in Europe. 29 00:01:10,218 --> 00:01:11,848 Um, my father was a physician. 30 00:01:12,318 --> 00:01:15,708 I had three older brothers and, my mom went back to 31 00:01:15,708 --> 00:01:19,568 work when I was 12 and worked as, um, like a 32 00:01:19,568 --> 00:01:21,028 hospital floor administrator. 33 00:01:21,048 --> 00:01:23,588 So I was always surrounded by medicine growing up. 34 00:01:23,608 --> 00:01:25,958 All my parents, friends were. 35 00:01:26,203 --> 00:01:29,263 We're all back then in the, cause I'm born in the 1950s. 36 00:01:29,363 --> 00:01:34,353 So I grew up in the 1960s and back then it was unusual 37 00:01:34,353 --> 00:01:35,763 for women to be doctors. 38 00:01:35,843 --> 00:01:37,373 The women tended to be nurses. 39 00:01:37,843 --> 00:01:41,353 All my parents friends, the man was the physician and 40 00:01:41,523 --> 00:01:42,993 their wives were nurses. 41 00:01:43,293 --> 00:01:45,993 So it's such a classic setup, almost sounds like a movie. 42 00:01:46,533 --> 00:01:48,443 So I was always surrounded by medicine. 43 00:01:48,523 --> 00:01:50,713 It was always medicine was the number one 44 00:01:50,713 --> 00:01:51,983 conversation in my house. 45 00:01:52,893 --> 00:01:56,523 So growing up around that, um, I always knew 46 00:01:56,553 --> 00:01:57,783 I wanted to be a doctor. 47 00:01:57,843 --> 00:01:59,893 And I would tell my dad, when I grow up, I'm 48 00:01:59,893 --> 00:02:00,913 going to be a doctor. 49 00:02:01,343 --> 00:02:03,973 And he would look at me and say, no, don't be 50 00:02:03,973 --> 00:02:05,143 a doctor, be a nurse. 51 00:02:05,623 --> 00:02:09,303 And it was just a time period that I grew up in the 1960s. 52 00:02:09,483 --> 00:02:13,093 So anyway, then I grew up, went to high school, 53 00:02:13,133 --> 00:02:16,003 um, The advisors in school said, Oh, you're really good 54 00:02:16,003 --> 00:02:17,053 in the science subjects. 55 00:02:17,053 --> 00:02:18,533 You should do the science major. 56 00:02:18,533 --> 00:02:20,403 Cause we actually major in high school. 57 00:02:20,853 --> 00:02:22,963 So when you get out of high school, you go 58 00:02:23,003 --> 00:02:25,663 straight to medical school, straight to law school. 59 00:02:25,923 --> 00:02:28,473 There is no four year of college required 60 00:02:28,473 --> 00:02:29,193 before you go. 61 00:02:29,203 --> 00:02:31,533 We do a lot of those prereqs in high school. 62 00:02:31,933 --> 00:02:32,603 And so. 63 00:02:32,893 --> 00:02:34,853 When you go to high school in Sweden, you can 64 00:02:34,853 --> 00:02:38,003 come out of that being like a daycare provider 65 00:02:38,023 --> 00:02:41,143 or, um, an automobile, like, like a mechanic. 66 00:02:41,403 --> 00:02:45,133 So we, we get a lot of, um, we get a lot of training 67 00:02:45,133 --> 00:02:47,713 in high school compared to here in the United States. 68 00:02:47,813 --> 00:02:50,233 Everybody sort of requires you go, you, you know, go 69 00:02:50,233 --> 00:02:52,693 straight to college and then you get to decide what to do. 70 00:02:53,193 --> 00:02:55,923 So you're much younger when you go into, you 71 00:02:55,923 --> 00:02:57,493 know, starting med school over there. 72 00:02:58,293 --> 00:03:01,853 Anyway, I didn't, I didn't go the science line because. 73 00:03:02,438 --> 00:03:04,968 I looked at the other kids in my class and there were 74 00:03:05,438 --> 00:03:08,428 maybe two or three girls that are, you know, young 75 00:03:08,428 --> 00:03:10,118 ladies that were going to go the science line. 76 00:03:10,128 --> 00:03:12,518 And I said, I am not going to have any friends if I 77 00:03:12,518 --> 00:03:13,728 do that in high school. 78 00:03:14,228 --> 00:03:16,488 You know, being a teenager, boyfriends were much more 79 00:03:16,488 --> 00:03:19,258 important and having friends were much more important. 80 00:03:19,768 --> 00:03:22,618 So I majored in languages and business. 81 00:03:23,898 --> 00:03:26,798 And then I, then I met an American. 82 00:03:27,663 --> 00:03:29,773 Who was an exchange student in my high school. 83 00:03:30,283 --> 00:03:33,453 And I ended up marrying that man by three years later. 84 00:03:33,453 --> 00:03:36,523 So I moved to the United States when I was 21 and I 85 00:03:36,533 --> 00:03:40,933 had started at Stockholm's university and I was studying 86 00:03:40,933 --> 00:03:44,043 economics, which I thought was terribly boring because 87 00:03:44,063 --> 00:03:45,803 this wasn't who I was, right? 88 00:03:46,913 --> 00:03:50,203 So I studied economics and then I went to, um. 89 00:03:50,643 --> 00:03:53,073 To the United States and I worked my first year here 90 00:03:53,073 --> 00:03:57,173 in the United States and I worked as the secretary at 91 00:03:57,173 --> 00:04:00,173 the Biomedical engineering department at Boston 92 00:04:00,173 --> 00:04:03,833 University and I was typing research papers all day long 93 00:04:03,843 --> 00:04:06,123 for these professors that were doing research I had 94 00:04:06,133 --> 00:04:08,293 no idea what I was typing. 95 00:04:08,913 --> 00:04:10,293 It was just words, right? 96 00:04:10,293 --> 00:04:13,643 So I'm just typing along and I remember asking the professor 97 00:04:14,233 --> 00:04:18,578 what kind of pig is a guinea pig that has long hair because 98 00:04:18,578 --> 00:04:19,658 I thought it was a real pig. 99 00:04:19,678 --> 00:04:21,248 I had never heard the word guinea pig. 100 00:04:21,458 --> 00:04:24,138 It's not a word you learn in an English class, right? 101 00:04:24,618 --> 00:04:27,008 So, um, I mean, they had so many laughs because 102 00:04:27,008 --> 00:04:29,268 I never knew what it was I was actually typing. 103 00:04:30,028 --> 00:04:32,668 And, then I, They convinced me I should 104 00:04:32,668 --> 00:04:33,798 go to Boston University. 105 00:04:34,548 --> 00:04:36,258 They said, the professors there said, Oh, you're, 106 00:04:36,278 --> 00:04:38,458 you have such a good knack for computers. 107 00:04:38,458 --> 00:04:39,558 You should be an engineer. 108 00:04:39,758 --> 00:04:41,608 And I said, no, I don't want to be an engineer. 109 00:04:42,068 --> 00:04:44,928 And then again, I said, you know, maybe I should follow my 110 00:04:44,928 --> 00:04:46,528 dad's advice and be a nurse. 111 00:04:47,008 --> 00:04:49,288 But the language barrier was so great. 112 00:04:49,358 --> 00:04:51,818 I didn't think I could handle those science classes. 113 00:04:52,428 --> 00:04:54,188 So again, I majored in business. 114 00:04:54,318 --> 00:04:56,288 I majored in business and computer science. 115 00:04:56,448 --> 00:05:00,518 And then I graduate and I work for IBM as a programmer 116 00:05:00,538 --> 00:05:01,508 and systems analyst. 117 00:05:02,108 --> 00:05:04,258 So, And I was a complete atheist. 118 00:05:04,358 --> 00:05:05,608 I didn't believe in anything. 119 00:05:05,608 --> 00:05:07,468 I didn't believe in angels, the spirit 120 00:05:07,468 --> 00:05:09,508 world, life after death. 121 00:05:09,908 --> 00:05:12,258 That was just not even part of my vocabulary. 122 00:05:12,298 --> 00:05:15,518 I didn't, a mediumship, I would have laughed if somebody 123 00:05:15,518 --> 00:05:18,088 said, let's communicate with the spirit world. 124 00:05:18,098 --> 00:05:20,088 And you know, I'm going to connect, you know, 125 00:05:20,088 --> 00:05:22,908 with my, with my loved ones in the spirit world. 126 00:05:23,268 --> 00:05:26,448 I would have laughed at them and said, you're crazy. 127 00:05:26,498 --> 00:05:27,848 Like that is impossible. 128 00:05:27,858 --> 00:05:28,678 That can't be. 129 00:05:28,998 --> 00:05:32,083 So I was, Very scientific, very logical. 130 00:05:32,973 --> 00:05:37,313 And so here I am working as a programmer and then, um, 131 00:05:37,483 --> 00:05:40,563 I took a leave of absence because we got, my husband's 132 00:05:40,563 --> 00:05:44,323 job took us to California and we had our first child. 133 00:05:44,923 --> 00:05:47,483 And so then I was at home and then I had a second child 134 00:05:48,423 --> 00:05:49,603 and then I had a third child. 135 00:05:49,893 --> 00:05:51,293 That's when life really changed. 136 00:05:51,633 --> 00:05:53,403 And that's when I started to have the 137 00:05:53,403 --> 00:05:54,473 near death experience. 138 00:05:54,903 --> 00:05:56,793 So I can tell you that story. 139 00:05:57,063 --> 00:05:58,603 If you want me to continue, I don't know 140 00:05:58,603 --> 00:06:00,943 if you had any questions about anything so far. 141 00:06:01,518 --> 00:06:02,278 Rod Bland: no, that's that's good. 142 00:06:02,278 --> 00:06:03,718 Yeah, but go ahead. 143 00:06:03,738 --> 00:06:05,688 Let's hear about the the first NDE. 144 00:06:06,308 --> 00:06:09,028 Dr. Lotte Valentin: So, so then I had had two 145 00:06:09,028 --> 00:06:10,518 children, two boys already, 146 00:06:10,518 --> 00:06:13,078 so they were six and three and a half at this point. 147 00:06:13,508 --> 00:06:17,438 And I was pregnant again and I was, I gave birth to 148 00:06:17,988 --> 00:06:22,228 a baby girl, which was not a normal birth in itself. 149 00:06:22,268 --> 00:06:25,388 So we lived in California at the time in Huntington 150 00:06:25,388 --> 00:06:29,758 Beach and I gave birth in the Eastern part of, if people 151 00:06:29,758 --> 00:06:32,428 know where Disneyland is, it's in Anaheim, California. 152 00:06:34,113 --> 00:06:36,393 In the eastern part of that city, Anaheim, that kind 153 00:06:36,393 --> 00:06:38,813 of borders the desert and that's where the hospital 154 00:06:38,813 --> 00:06:40,043 was when I gave birth. 155 00:06:40,773 --> 00:06:43,043 So I'm contracting about three minutes apart. 156 00:06:43,513 --> 00:06:46,553 So the baby's right, you know, my, my second baby had 157 00:06:46,553 --> 00:06:47,943 been born in like two hours. 158 00:06:47,953 --> 00:06:50,153 So as soon as I had a contraction, we headed 159 00:06:50,153 --> 00:06:53,203 to the hospital and I was already, you know, close 160 00:06:53,203 --> 00:06:55,143 to delivering that baby. 161 00:06:55,658 --> 00:06:55,898 And a 7. 162 00:06:55,898 --> 00:06:57,708 4 earthquake hits. 163 00:06:58,418 --> 00:06:58,848 Rod Bland: Whoa, 164 00:06:59,108 --> 00:07:00,778 Dr. Lotte Valentin: I'm lying on this table. 165 00:07:01,598 --> 00:07:04,408 Luckily, the people, not many people have heard of 166 00:07:04,408 --> 00:07:06,158 this earthquake because it was centered in the 167 00:07:06,158 --> 00:07:09,548 desert, but this hospital was literally the last 168 00:07:09,588 --> 00:07:11,118 building before the desert. 169 00:07:11,558 --> 00:07:12,958 And it was a new hospital. 170 00:07:12,958 --> 00:07:14,418 So it was built on rollers. 171 00:07:14,918 --> 00:07:18,098 And so that building, I mean, it's just rolls right 172 00:07:18,098 --> 00:07:22,683 back and forth because to take the, the The, the 173 00:07:22,713 --> 00:07:24,183 impact of the earthquake. 174 00:07:24,703 --> 00:07:28,493 So I'm lying on this birthing table in the birthing unit 175 00:07:28,673 --> 00:07:31,723 and the midwife, the nurse, my husband, everybody's 176 00:07:31,723 --> 00:07:33,383 just leaning over me. 177 00:07:33,943 --> 00:07:36,183 I would have flown off the table because that's how 178 00:07:36,183 --> 00:07:37,353 much that building shook. 179 00:07:37,933 --> 00:07:42,403 And just, you know, we're just petrified that this is 180 00:07:42,403 --> 00:07:43,713 the moment I'm going to die. 181 00:07:43,733 --> 00:07:47,683 That's what I thought because there were these windows 182 00:07:47,723 --> 00:07:50,303 all the way from the floor to the ceiling and then 183 00:07:50,303 --> 00:07:52,763 all those ceiling tiles that, you know, are common. 184 00:07:52,813 --> 00:07:54,443 And I, I said, this is it. 185 00:07:54,533 --> 00:07:56,803 Like these windows are going to cave in or the ceiling 186 00:07:56,803 --> 00:07:58,713 tiles are going to cave in and we're just going to 187 00:07:58,743 --> 00:08:01,373 be buried in this rubble as everything collapses. 188 00:08:02,753 --> 00:08:04,823 So the building just rolled and rolled. 189 00:08:04,943 --> 00:08:09,813 We lose all the electricity and it's, and it stops and 190 00:08:09,813 --> 00:08:11,453 we're all just, oh my God. 191 00:08:11,688 --> 00:08:14,598 We're still here and it's just dead silence. 192 00:08:14,598 --> 00:08:18,218 We hear the generators kick in and we have the light of 193 00:08:18,218 --> 00:08:20,438 like a nightlight that you have in the bathroom at night. 194 00:08:20,988 --> 00:08:23,768 That was the lighting now because this was at, you 195 00:08:23,768 --> 00:08:26,218 know, early, early in the morning, maybe five o'clock 196 00:08:26,218 --> 00:08:27,148 in the morning or something. 197 00:08:27,638 --> 00:08:29,648 And so it was dark still outside. 198 00:08:30,288 --> 00:08:34,268 And, and then, uh, my contractions actually stopped 199 00:08:34,308 --> 00:08:37,878 because When you are, you know, if you're in the jungle 200 00:08:37,898 --> 00:08:40,828 and that lion is coming to eat you and you're giving, 201 00:08:40,838 --> 00:08:42,748 you're about ready to give birth, you're going to stop 202 00:08:42,748 --> 00:08:45,428 giving birth, get yourself to safety and then give birth. 203 00:08:45,448 --> 00:08:48,568 Cause it's just, you know, instincts where all animals 204 00:08:48,568 --> 00:08:50,308 will do that and things will just stop and you 205 00:08:50,308 --> 00:08:51,318 get yourself to safety. 206 00:08:52,058 --> 00:08:53,748 So my labor actually stopped. 207 00:08:53,888 --> 00:08:57,358 And then about half an hour later, it started back up 208 00:08:57,388 --> 00:08:59,348 as I started, you know, saying, okay, we're okay. 209 00:08:59,938 --> 00:09:02,168 Gave birth to my daughter and we had a 210 00:09:02,168 --> 00:09:03,368 second earthquake hit. 211 00:09:03,603 --> 00:09:04,183 And that was a 7. 212 00:09:04,183 --> 00:09:05,183 2. 213 00:09:05,953 --> 00:09:08,293 And now we're like, okay, well, this is really 214 00:09:08,293 --> 00:09:10,593 bad, but it's not as bad as the first one. 215 00:09:10,693 --> 00:09:11,953 So we know it's okay. 216 00:09:12,053 --> 00:09:13,763 You know, they can, it can get worse or it can 217 00:09:13,763 --> 00:09:14,423 get a little better. 218 00:09:14,423 --> 00:09:14,703 Right. 219 00:09:15,493 --> 00:09:19,493 And then they finally gave me, you know, the baby to hold. 220 00:09:19,523 --> 00:09:22,193 And as soon as they gave me the baby, I'm just like 221 00:09:22,223 --> 00:09:24,553 leaning backwards, yelling for my husband, take 222 00:09:24,553 --> 00:09:25,613 the baby, take the baby. 223 00:09:25,613 --> 00:09:27,533 And I was in this excruciating pain. 224 00:09:28,253 --> 00:09:31,933 And then, um, there was all these, uh, blood clots 225 00:09:31,933 --> 00:09:34,573 that came out and they started massaging my uterus. 226 00:09:34,653 --> 00:09:37,563 And, you know, today I'm thinking, I mean, there's 227 00:09:37,613 --> 00:09:38,603 not much they could do. 228 00:09:38,613 --> 00:09:41,103 They were operating on generators at this point. 229 00:09:41,133 --> 00:09:44,623 So they put an IV in and that helped contract 230 00:09:44,623 --> 00:09:45,703 the uterus down. 231 00:09:46,293 --> 00:09:48,203 And then I stayed an extra day in the hospital. 232 00:09:49,018 --> 00:09:52,078 So after 48 hours, they said, well, it looks good. 233 00:09:52,088 --> 00:09:53,918 It looks like the bleeding has slowed way down. 234 00:09:53,928 --> 00:09:57,108 It looks like a normal flow, like postpartum and we're 235 00:09:57,108 --> 00:09:58,208 going to send you on your way. 236 00:09:58,768 --> 00:10:01,688 So they sent me home and then I had all these 237 00:10:01,698 --> 00:10:04,198 pain is, I mean, imagine swallowing a bowling 238 00:10:04,198 --> 00:10:05,688 ball and it's just this. 239 00:10:06,143 --> 00:10:09,293 It's very kind of heaviness and it would just hurt so 240 00:10:09,293 --> 00:10:10,713 much like down my legs. 241 00:10:11,133 --> 00:10:12,763 And I would constantly have to sit down. 242 00:10:12,763 --> 00:10:15,153 Anytime I picked up the baby, it was so much pain 243 00:10:15,153 --> 00:10:18,603 and I'm thinking, why is this birth so different? 244 00:10:18,653 --> 00:10:20,843 I mean, I did hemorrhage afterwards, but that 245 00:10:20,953 --> 00:10:23,273 stopped and I couldn't figure that out. 246 00:10:23,313 --> 00:10:26,183 Well, then about 10 days later. 247 00:10:26,643 --> 00:10:28,863 Uh, my friends are having a baby shower 248 00:10:28,863 --> 00:10:29,963 for me in the park. 249 00:10:29,973 --> 00:10:32,543 Cause I had a girl and I had two boys before and 250 00:10:32,543 --> 00:10:33,253 they were all excited. 251 00:10:33,253 --> 00:10:35,333 They weren't getting in me, give me all these girly 252 00:10:35,363 --> 00:10:36,343 clothes and everything. 253 00:10:36,823 --> 00:10:37,703 So I get there. 254 00:10:38,333 --> 00:10:40,613 And I feel like I have to use the restroom. 255 00:10:40,613 --> 00:10:44,293 So I take my kids with me, we go to the restroom and this 256 00:10:44,373 --> 00:10:46,043 enormous blood clot comes out. 257 00:10:46,083 --> 00:10:48,733 I mean, it's like the size of the baby's head. 258 00:10:48,753 --> 00:10:49,823 I mean, it's just huge. 259 00:10:50,343 --> 00:10:52,893 And I'm looking at that in the toilet going, 260 00:10:53,203 --> 00:10:54,043 this is not good. 261 00:10:55,503 --> 00:10:56,703 This is not normal. 262 00:10:57,193 --> 00:11:00,338 So I to take my kids, I run back, tell my friend, 263 00:11:01,078 --> 00:11:03,388 I have to leave right now, something really 264 00:11:03,388 --> 00:11:04,258 is really, really wrong. 265 00:11:04,728 --> 00:11:06,998 So I'll, I drove home, which was only about five 266 00:11:06,998 --> 00:11:08,328 minutes from this park. 267 00:11:08,778 --> 00:11:12,188 My parents were there from Sweden visiting, uh, to help 268 00:11:12,188 --> 00:11:13,308 with the kids and everything. 269 00:11:13,998 --> 00:11:16,618 So I tell them what happened and they call my husband. 270 00:11:16,618 --> 00:11:17,368 He comes home. 271 00:11:17,408 --> 00:11:18,318 We go to the ER. 272 00:11:19,128 --> 00:11:19,588 I get to the ER. 273 00:11:20,403 --> 00:11:22,563 They come in, they do a manual inspection, 274 00:11:22,573 --> 00:11:25,383 and they say, Well, everything seems fine now. 275 00:11:25,513 --> 00:11:26,913 There's not much blood coming out. 276 00:11:27,263 --> 00:11:28,953 Keep me there for two or three hours, and they 277 00:11:28,953 --> 00:11:30,083 say, Well, it looks good. 278 00:11:30,083 --> 00:11:31,213 We're going to send you on your way. 279 00:11:31,293 --> 00:11:33,283 Uh, could have been a second lining that came out. 280 00:11:34,253 --> 00:11:35,323 We're at home next day. 281 00:11:35,323 --> 00:11:36,353 I go to the bathroom. 282 00:11:36,788 --> 00:11:39,578 It's like five or six in the afternoon, same 283 00:11:39,578 --> 00:11:40,338 thing happens again. 284 00:11:40,948 --> 00:11:43,388 And my husband calls the hospital and I'm yelling 285 00:11:43,388 --> 00:11:44,208 at him, lying on the bed. 286 00:11:44,248 --> 00:11:45,358 I am not going. 287 00:11:45,378 --> 00:11:46,658 If the bleeding stopped, they're not 288 00:11:46,658 --> 00:11:47,608 going to do anything. 289 00:11:47,608 --> 00:11:48,428 It's pointless. 290 00:11:48,888 --> 00:11:52,088 So they decided I should see the doctor the next morning 291 00:11:52,158 --> 00:11:54,258 in Huntington Beach, where we lived in California. 292 00:11:55,358 --> 00:11:56,648 Next morning is Friday morning. 293 00:11:56,648 --> 00:11:57,388 I go to the doctor. 294 00:11:57,388 --> 00:11:59,828 It's like 10 o'clock in the morning, same thing. 295 00:12:00,108 --> 00:12:01,118 Manual inspection. 296 00:12:01,118 --> 00:12:02,838 Well, it doesn't look like you're bleeding that much 297 00:12:02,838 --> 00:12:06,338 now, but, uh, you know, no blood work, no ultrasound, 298 00:12:06,338 --> 00:12:09,558 nothing, just a visual inspection saying, doesn't 299 00:12:09,558 --> 00:12:10,878 look like much is happening. 300 00:12:11,328 --> 00:12:12,238 Send me on my way. 301 00:12:12,608 --> 00:12:13,348 I go home. 302 00:12:13,648 --> 00:12:15,458 Same thing happens again, four or five o'clock in 303 00:12:15,458 --> 00:12:17,788 the afternoon, another huge blood clot comes out. 304 00:12:18,368 --> 00:12:20,768 So we said, all right, well, this is the third 305 00:12:20,778 --> 00:12:22,028 day this is happening. 306 00:12:22,208 --> 00:12:23,528 Something is definitely wrong. 307 00:12:23,538 --> 00:12:24,948 So we went back to the ER. 308 00:12:26,183 --> 00:12:26,743 Same thing. 309 00:12:26,773 --> 00:12:29,613 Doctor comes in, says, well, nothing much seems to be 310 00:12:29,613 --> 00:12:32,963 happening now, and leaves me there for observation. 311 00:12:33,243 --> 00:12:34,963 We'll keep you here for two or three hours, we'll 312 00:12:34,963 --> 00:12:35,973 see if anything happens. 313 00:12:36,963 --> 00:12:40,043 So I'm just lying on this table, doors closed, I don't 314 00:12:40,043 --> 00:12:45,503 have a bell to ring, this is 1992, and I start bleeding. 315 00:12:45,503 --> 00:12:49,113 So I'm thinking, finally, I'm finally bleeding, I'm in the 316 00:12:49,113 --> 00:12:51,003 hospital, they're going to figure out something is wrong. 317 00:12:51,803 --> 00:12:53,913 So I'm lying there, not thinking much about it, I'm 318 00:12:53,913 --> 00:12:55,393 like, well, this is, you know, this is the fourth 319 00:12:55,393 --> 00:12:56,363 day I'm bleeding now. 320 00:12:56,363 --> 00:12:56,733 So. 321 00:12:57,343 --> 00:12:59,383 And then a nurse comes in to check on me. 322 00:12:59,523 --> 00:13:02,253 I swear the spirit world sent her because the timing 323 00:13:02,253 --> 00:13:05,583 is, you know, had she been there a minute or two later, 324 00:13:05,593 --> 00:13:06,763 I probably would have died. 325 00:13:06,763 --> 00:13:08,643 I mean, it's that it comes down to seconds. 326 00:13:09,213 --> 00:13:13,123 So she comes in, she opens the door and she has this 327 00:13:13,448 --> 00:13:16,828 you know, terror look on her face, like, Oh, you know, it's 328 00:13:16,828 --> 00:13:20,048 like her jaw is on the floor and she's just, Oh my gosh. 329 00:13:20,108 --> 00:13:22,528 And I can hear the call on the loudspeaker, you 330 00:13:22,528 --> 00:13:24,928 know, OBGYN stat to the ER. 331 00:13:25,838 --> 00:13:27,998 So I'm thinking, wow, this is good. 332 00:13:28,048 --> 00:13:29,748 Finally, they figured out something, you 333 00:13:29,748 --> 00:13:30,678 know, is wrong with me. 334 00:13:31,258 --> 00:13:33,728 So she cleans up everything, puts new paper down. 335 00:13:33,748 --> 00:13:37,238 The, this middle aged doctor comes literally running 336 00:13:37,238 --> 00:13:39,248 full speed with a younger physician in tow, which 337 00:13:39,248 --> 00:13:40,288 is probably the resident. 338 00:13:41,038 --> 00:13:42,018 And I'm thinking. 339 00:13:42,413 --> 00:13:44,743 I finally get a doctor that's middle aged. 340 00:13:44,753 --> 00:13:46,223 He's been around the block. 341 00:13:46,223 --> 00:13:47,413 He's going to know what to do. 342 00:13:47,493 --> 00:13:49,193 And he did because he saved my life. 343 00:13:49,843 --> 00:13:52,883 So again, we do another manual inspection. 344 00:13:53,153 --> 00:13:54,413 So they said, all right, let's take a look, 345 00:13:54,413 --> 00:13:55,153 see what's happening. 346 00:13:56,313 --> 00:13:59,213 Another huge blood clot comes out. 347 00:13:59,643 --> 00:14:01,463 So this is the fifth time I'm hemorrhaging 348 00:14:01,473 --> 00:14:02,523 in three days, right? 349 00:14:02,723 --> 00:14:04,393 I've lost so much blood now. 350 00:14:04,973 --> 00:14:07,663 So I try to sit up and tell this doctor, I 351 00:14:07,663 --> 00:14:08,543 don't feel too good. 352 00:14:09,323 --> 00:14:12,323 So He knew exactly what had happened because, you know, 353 00:14:12,403 --> 00:14:14,363 when he came in, he said, how much have you been bleeding? 354 00:14:14,363 --> 00:14:16,413 And I said, well, I've been bleeding since Wednesday. 355 00:14:16,613 --> 00:14:18,923 This is my third day that this is happening. 356 00:14:19,253 --> 00:14:20,923 So he knew I had lost a lot of blood. 357 00:14:21,383 --> 00:14:24,373 So as soon as I said, I don't feel good, he just 358 00:14:24,483 --> 00:14:25,913 pushed me down on the table. 359 00:14:26,213 --> 00:14:29,573 The whole room filled with staff, nurses, and he started 360 00:14:29,633 --> 00:14:30,863 tipping the table backwards. 361 00:14:30,883 --> 00:14:32,153 My head goes towards the floor. 362 00:14:32,153 --> 00:14:33,573 My feet goes up in the air. 363 00:14:34,383 --> 00:14:37,593 And, you know, I got a nurse on my right that's 364 00:14:37,593 --> 00:14:39,813 got the blood pressure cuff and she's quoting my blood 365 00:14:39,813 --> 00:14:40,963 pressure as it's dropping. 366 00:14:41,283 --> 00:14:45,333 And I got a nurse on my left trying to place the IV that is 367 00:14:45,333 --> 00:14:46,713 going to save my life, right? 368 00:14:47,423 --> 00:14:48,873 And I'm lying at this table. 369 00:14:48,923 --> 00:14:51,583 I feel like I jumped out of an airplane and I'm 370 00:14:51,583 --> 00:14:54,893 just doing a free fall and it's probably my blood 371 00:14:54,893 --> 00:14:55,813 pressure dropping, right? 372 00:14:55,813 --> 00:14:57,333 So I just feel like I'm falling through 373 00:14:57,333 --> 00:14:58,323 space at this point. 374 00:14:59,013 --> 00:15:02,173 And I'm thinking, Oh, what's taking her so long? 375 00:15:02,183 --> 00:15:03,593 Why can't she get that IV in? 376 00:15:04,698 --> 00:15:06,868 But the veins are collapsing because once you go into 377 00:15:06,868 --> 00:15:08,428 shock, your veins collapse. 378 00:15:08,478 --> 00:15:11,668 And when you go to the ER today, now, they often 379 00:15:11,668 --> 00:15:14,478 place an IV with just, you know, water, basically, 380 00:15:14,968 --> 00:15:15,748 you know, body water. 381 00:15:16,248 --> 00:15:18,438 And it's so they have, they have access 382 00:15:18,438 --> 00:15:19,348 to the vein, right? 383 00:15:19,348 --> 00:15:21,128 So they have, now they're already in your vein. 384 00:15:21,128 --> 00:15:23,238 If something goes south when you're in the ER, now they can 385 00:15:23,238 --> 00:15:25,968 just inject, because you have a port now, into your vein. 386 00:15:26,808 --> 00:15:30,728 But back in 92, they obviously didn't do that because they 387 00:15:30,728 --> 00:15:33,198 waited until you're almost dead to place that IV. 388 00:15:33,878 --> 00:15:36,213 So I'm lying on this bed going Wow, what's 389 00:15:36,223 --> 00:15:37,253 taking her so long? 390 00:15:37,653 --> 00:15:39,223 Why can't she get that IV? 391 00:15:40,153 --> 00:15:43,263 And as I'm thinking that, the nurse on my right yells, 392 00:15:43,653 --> 00:15:46,013 50 over 15, hurry. 393 00:15:46,323 --> 00:15:49,363 I mean, at this point, I barely have a pressure to 394 00:15:49,373 --> 00:15:50,253 support the heart, right? 395 00:15:50,673 --> 00:15:52,193 And then it just keeps falling. 396 00:15:52,203 --> 00:15:55,593 And it was shortly after she said that, that I 397 00:15:55,673 --> 00:15:57,293 knew that I was dying. 398 00:15:57,613 --> 00:16:00,273 And that was very different from that earthquake 399 00:16:00,273 --> 00:16:01,253 experience, right? 400 00:16:01,253 --> 00:16:03,773 Or I've been in an airplane that also fell out of the air. 401 00:16:04,913 --> 00:16:07,263 That is very different from the thought of thinking, 402 00:16:07,653 --> 00:16:08,943 Oh my gosh, this is it. 403 00:16:08,963 --> 00:16:10,363 I'm going to die, right? 404 00:16:10,593 --> 00:16:13,313 And a lot of people have been in these scenarios. 405 00:16:13,323 --> 00:16:16,443 You're almost in a car accident and you can somehow 406 00:16:16,463 --> 00:16:17,593 get out of it, right? 407 00:16:17,603 --> 00:16:19,813 You can almost see your life flashing before your eyes. 408 00:16:20,233 --> 00:16:22,543 This was very different because it was a knowing 409 00:16:22,543 --> 00:16:23,383 that I was dying. 410 00:16:23,403 --> 00:16:25,683 I knew that I was dying at that point. 411 00:16:26,373 --> 00:16:29,823 And the atheist that I was, what do I do? 412 00:16:30,213 --> 00:16:33,803 I said, well, if there is a God, this is my chance. 413 00:16:34,453 --> 00:16:35,173 So I said. 414 00:16:35,833 --> 00:16:36,793 God, please save me. 415 00:16:36,793 --> 00:16:38,743 I have three children under the age of six 416 00:16:38,743 --> 00:16:40,063 and they need a mother. 417 00:16:40,093 --> 00:16:42,523 I was thinking my husband, my husband can never do this 418 00:16:43,153 --> 00:16:45,523 Like there's no way he can raise three kids. 419 00:16:46,133 --> 00:16:48,743 So I just pleaded with God to save me. 420 00:16:48,743 --> 00:16:50,903 And it was shortly after that I just got 421 00:16:50,903 --> 00:16:51,953 pulled outta my body. 422 00:16:53,033 --> 00:16:55,583 So then I find myself floating, you know, like 423 00:16:55,583 --> 00:16:57,623 in the middle of the room, kind of above my body. 424 00:16:58,253 --> 00:16:59,724 And the first thing I'm thinking is. 425 00:17:00,958 --> 00:17:04,948 Wow, how can I be outside my body and still be me? 426 00:17:05,488 --> 00:17:05,698 Right? 427 00:17:05,738 --> 00:17:06,488 That's the first thing. 428 00:17:06,818 --> 00:17:10,378 So you are still you and you know that you belong 429 00:17:10,378 --> 00:17:11,378 to that body down there. 430 00:17:11,598 --> 00:17:12,658 That's me down there, right? 431 00:17:13,808 --> 00:17:16,258 I didn't, some people turn around and they see 432 00:17:16,258 --> 00:17:17,268 themselves on the table. 433 00:17:17,268 --> 00:17:18,438 I didn't see myself on the table. 434 00:17:18,438 --> 00:17:19,428 I'm just kind of like out there. 435 00:17:19,898 --> 00:17:22,498 And I, but I know I belong to the body. 436 00:17:22,538 --> 00:17:24,238 It's almost that people talk about the silver 437 00:17:24,238 --> 00:17:25,468 cord and things like that. 438 00:17:25,718 --> 00:17:27,348 It's almost like you're on a string, right? 439 00:17:27,663 --> 00:17:29,873 There is this knowing you belong to the body. 440 00:17:30,423 --> 00:17:32,703 But while I'm outside my body, first of all, 441 00:17:32,703 --> 00:17:34,423 it's this complete peace. 442 00:17:34,493 --> 00:17:37,613 And, you know, you just feel, wow, this is so nice. 443 00:17:37,663 --> 00:17:38,603 There's no pain. 444 00:17:38,603 --> 00:17:39,353 There's nothing. 445 00:17:39,363 --> 00:17:40,403 You're just kind of there. 446 00:17:41,063 --> 00:17:45,663 But also there was a knowing that there was no time in 447 00:17:45,663 --> 00:17:48,623 that state and that I could access any information 448 00:17:48,643 --> 00:17:49,723 past, present, and future. 449 00:17:49,733 --> 00:17:50,803 There was no time. 450 00:17:51,063 --> 00:17:53,613 And it drove me crazy for years trying to figure out why 451 00:17:53,613 --> 00:17:55,103 is there no time over there? 452 00:17:56,113 --> 00:17:59,308 And, and then as quickly as I had gotten sucked 453 00:17:59,308 --> 00:18:02,038 out of my body, I get sucked back in and I don't 454 00:18:02,038 --> 00:18:03,018 even have words for it. 455 00:18:04,278 --> 00:18:06,698 So then the next day, so then of course they keep 456 00:18:06,698 --> 00:18:08,588 me in the hospital and I'm hooked up to all this stuff. 457 00:18:09,018 --> 00:18:13,358 And the next morning the nurse comes in and she says, 458 00:18:13,358 --> 00:18:15,748 Oh, you know, did anything unusual happen yesterday? 459 00:18:16,288 --> 00:18:17,078 Uh, you know, in the ER. 460 00:18:17,718 --> 00:18:20,148 And I said, no, no, nothing at all. 461 00:18:20,468 --> 00:18:21,418 I was petrified. 462 00:18:21,418 --> 00:18:24,578 I figured if I tell her what I had experienced, 463 00:18:24,808 --> 00:18:26,558 they're going to lock me up in the psych ward. 464 00:18:26,558 --> 00:18:27,868 I'm never going to see my children. 465 00:18:28,258 --> 00:18:30,578 So I was just, no, no, because I didn't believe 466 00:18:30,578 --> 00:18:32,538 in any of it, but I still had that experience. 467 00:18:32,708 --> 00:18:34,648 I'm wondering, what is this? 468 00:18:34,748 --> 00:18:36,958 Was that my brain hallucinating? 469 00:18:36,958 --> 00:18:37,628 Or what was that? 470 00:18:38,078 --> 00:18:41,398 So I'm lying in this hospital bed and then I 471 00:18:41,398 --> 00:18:44,168 hear my sister in law who had passed away about 10 472 00:18:44,178 --> 00:18:47,418 days earlier and I hear her, she's in the left corner 473 00:18:47,418 --> 00:18:50,258 of my ceiling and she says, everything's going to be okay. 474 00:18:50,678 --> 00:18:53,398 And I'm just lying there thinking, okay, yesterday 475 00:18:53,398 --> 00:18:54,948 I thought I left my body and I had this whole 476 00:18:54,948 --> 00:18:57,338 experience and now I think I hear my sister in law, 477 00:18:57,738 --> 00:18:59,078 like what is happening? 478 00:18:59,528 --> 00:19:03,048 And it wasn't until my mother in law came to visit. 479 00:19:03,048 --> 00:19:04,168 I didn't even tell my parents. 480 00:19:04,168 --> 00:19:05,118 I didn't tell my husband. 481 00:19:05,158 --> 00:19:06,258 I figured everybody. 482 00:19:06,643 --> 00:19:07,793 They're going to think I'm crazy. 483 00:19:08,213 --> 00:19:09,593 So I couldn't even tell anyone. 484 00:19:09,613 --> 00:19:12,113 And then my parents kept changing their ticket. 485 00:19:12,113 --> 00:19:13,623 They stayed for another three or four weeks. 486 00:19:13,673 --> 00:19:17,133 I just slept because I, because of the shock and 487 00:19:17,133 --> 00:19:18,103 having too little blood. 488 00:19:18,103 --> 00:19:20,843 And then my mother in law came and I call her 489 00:19:20,843 --> 00:19:22,263 my earthly spirit guide. 490 00:19:22,663 --> 00:19:24,033 And she was very spiritual. 491 00:19:24,103 --> 00:19:26,533 And she said, what is going on with you? 492 00:19:26,533 --> 00:19:28,113 And I told her about the experience. 493 00:19:28,473 --> 00:19:30,343 And she said, Oh, what you had was, it's called 494 00:19:30,343 --> 00:19:31,553 a near death experience. 495 00:19:31,993 --> 00:19:35,033 And she went out and she got the book, uh, by Raymond 496 00:19:35,033 --> 00:19:36,443 Moody, Life After Life. 497 00:19:37,208 --> 00:19:39,388 And so then I started understanding that this 498 00:19:39,388 --> 00:19:42,228 was some kind of experience that other people had 499 00:19:42,228 --> 00:19:44,658 had, so at least I didn't feel as kooky now. 500 00:19:45,278 --> 00:19:48,218 And then, you know, over the years she helped me, 501 00:19:48,738 --> 00:19:51,088 you know, understand that there is life after death 502 00:19:51,088 --> 00:19:52,308 and all these other things. 503 00:19:52,968 --> 00:19:58,493 So then I got really sick and it took me Six months to, 504 00:19:58,493 --> 00:20:00,463 um, well, after six months. 505 00:20:00,463 --> 00:20:02,043 So my daughter was born in June. 506 00:20:02,283 --> 00:20:05,693 By that Christmas, we all got pneumonia and I didn't 507 00:20:05,693 --> 00:20:06,953 get a blood transfusion. 508 00:20:06,953 --> 00:20:08,373 So the first thing they wanted to do was give 509 00:20:08,373 --> 00:20:09,333 me a blood transfusion. 510 00:20:09,713 --> 00:20:12,373 And I'm looking at the doctor in the ER and I turned my 511 00:20:12,373 --> 00:20:14,733 head and he says, he just yells, don't move because 512 00:20:14,733 --> 00:20:16,573 he was so afraid I was going to go back into shock. 513 00:20:17,193 --> 00:20:18,653 And I'm, and he said, I'm going to have to give 514 00:20:18,653 --> 00:20:19,703 you a blood transfusion. 515 00:20:19,873 --> 00:20:22,468 And I look at him and I say, Do you have to give 516 00:20:22,468 --> 00:20:23,558 me a blood transfusion? 517 00:20:24,248 --> 00:20:26,868 And he said, why, why don't you want one? 518 00:20:26,868 --> 00:20:29,568 Do you have like a religious belief that prevents you from 519 00:20:29,658 --> 00:20:30,738 taking a blood transfusion? 520 00:20:30,738 --> 00:20:34,028 And I said, no, but everybody that gets a blood transfusion 521 00:20:34,048 --> 00:20:37,348 gets AIDS because it was that big AIDS epidemic. 522 00:20:37,348 --> 00:20:39,338 And we didn't have any way of testing the blood back then. 523 00:20:39,678 --> 00:20:41,908 I said, I have three kids under the age of six. 524 00:20:42,068 --> 00:20:42,698 I was young. 525 00:20:42,708 --> 00:20:44,408 I was, you know, 34 years old. 526 00:20:44,408 --> 00:20:45,718 I was in perfect health. 527 00:20:45,918 --> 00:20:48,398 Otherwise, I don't want to wake up, you know, 528 00:20:48,408 --> 00:20:49,458 six years from now. 529 00:20:49,668 --> 00:20:53,598 When my, with three kids say, having AIDS, so he said, okay, 530 00:20:53,918 --> 00:20:54,968 we'll see what we can do. 531 00:20:54,978 --> 00:20:56,498 You're young and very healthy. 532 00:20:56,498 --> 00:20:57,728 I just studied nutrition. 533 00:20:57,728 --> 00:20:58,818 I had a nutrition degree. 534 00:20:59,218 --> 00:21:00,908 So I was like super healthy. 535 00:21:00,908 --> 00:21:02,388 We didn't even have white sugar in the house. 536 00:21:02,388 --> 00:21:03,188 It was that crazy. 537 00:21:03,568 --> 00:21:07,143 So, So he said, all right, I'm going to give 538 00:21:07,143 --> 00:21:08,023 you some supplements. 539 00:21:08,023 --> 00:21:09,393 We're going to give you some medication, make sure 540 00:21:09,393 --> 00:21:12,703 the bleeding stops and inflammation or, you know, 541 00:21:12,703 --> 00:21:13,713 infection and all that. 542 00:21:14,263 --> 00:21:16,223 And so he said, it's going to take you a little bit 543 00:21:16,223 --> 00:21:19,413 of time, but you know, you're making blood quickly. 544 00:21:19,413 --> 00:21:21,033 They kept me an extra day in the hospital and 545 00:21:21,033 --> 00:21:23,353 said, you know, you're, it seems to be working. 546 00:21:23,353 --> 00:21:23,823 And. 547 00:21:24,003 --> 00:21:26,253 You're not going to feel too good for the 548 00:21:26,363 --> 00:21:27,603 next three months or so. 549 00:21:27,973 --> 00:21:29,333 And I basically just slept. 550 00:21:29,393 --> 00:21:30,523 I mean, that's what I'm told. 551 00:21:31,083 --> 00:21:33,303 I just slept a lot and I was freezing. 552 00:21:33,303 --> 00:21:36,463 I had my hands and feet for ice cold under a wool blanket 553 00:21:36,903 --> 00:21:38,923 in June, July in California. 554 00:21:38,943 --> 00:21:42,143 So, you know, I had like no blood and I couldn't keep 555 00:21:42,143 --> 00:21:45,743 my head on a pillow because my head would be pounding. 556 00:21:46,103 --> 00:21:47,973 Because there was so little blood in my body. 557 00:21:48,483 --> 00:21:50,323 And I was so dizzy, I couldn't walk from the 558 00:21:50,333 --> 00:21:52,093 bed to the living room without passing out. 559 00:21:52,093 --> 00:21:54,953 I would, you know, everything would just sort of blacken 560 00:21:54,953 --> 00:21:57,013 by, you know, taking 20 steps. 561 00:21:57,363 --> 00:22:00,033 Just throw myself on the sofa to get into the next 562 00:22:00,033 --> 00:22:02,203 room so I could at least talk to people now and then. 563 00:22:02,983 --> 00:22:05,883 So, after six months, we all, all the, 564 00:22:05,883 --> 00:22:06,773 everybody got the flu. 565 00:22:07,738 --> 00:22:10,748 And my husband was in a new job and here in the United 566 00:22:10,748 --> 00:22:13,408 States, we have to wait three months for the insurance 567 00:22:13,478 --> 00:22:16,488 and this we want to pay some astronomical amount, which 568 00:22:16,488 --> 00:22:19,088 you can't when you're young and you have three children, 569 00:22:19,088 --> 00:22:21,178 you're in your thirties, you can't afford that, right? 570 00:22:21,868 --> 00:22:23,368 So many times you just wait. 571 00:22:23,498 --> 00:22:25,608 And my husband kept saying, are you sure? 572 00:22:25,608 --> 00:22:26,298 Are you sure? 573 00:22:26,348 --> 00:22:28,678 Like I said, yes, I'm getting better. 574 00:22:28,778 --> 00:22:31,808 I'm sitting up now, like just take this new job. 575 00:22:32,278 --> 00:22:34,818 Well, he ended up taking three new jobs that year 576 00:22:35,028 --> 00:22:38,148 because right when this whole birth happened, his 577 00:22:38,148 --> 00:22:41,648 company got sold and he was like a regional manager. 578 00:22:41,768 --> 00:22:43,788 Everybody got laid off from top to bottom. 579 00:22:44,228 --> 00:22:46,748 And so he just had to take the first best job. 580 00:22:46,748 --> 00:22:48,308 It's not like you have a lot of savings when you're 581 00:22:48,308 --> 00:22:50,818 in your early thirties and have three young children. 582 00:22:51,638 --> 00:22:53,808 So he took the best job he could. 583 00:22:53,903 --> 00:22:56,773 And then three months later when we were just about to 584 00:22:56,773 --> 00:22:59,173 get insurance, he would get another job offer and then 585 00:22:59,173 --> 00:23:00,093 he would take that job. 586 00:23:00,413 --> 00:23:03,643 So that whole year, the entire year, we had no 587 00:23:03,643 --> 00:23:05,463 insurance that first year. 588 00:23:06,093 --> 00:23:07,903 So at Christmas, we all got sick. 589 00:23:07,903 --> 00:23:09,243 We went to a walk in clinic. 590 00:23:09,848 --> 00:23:12,918 Everybody had like pneumonia and the flu, ear infections, 591 00:23:12,958 --> 00:23:14,268 we all got antibiotics. 592 00:23:14,908 --> 00:23:17,618 And then eight days after being on antibiotics, 593 00:23:17,618 --> 00:23:19,378 everybody was well again. 594 00:23:20,058 --> 00:23:22,738 My boys, my husband, I was even sicker. 595 00:23:23,008 --> 00:23:25,918 So I go back to the walk-in clinic and they said, wow, 596 00:23:25,928 --> 00:23:26,938 weren't you just here? 597 00:23:27,108 --> 00:23:30,098 And I said, yeah, um, like eight days ago. 598 00:23:30,228 --> 00:23:31,498 And they said, all right, well, something 599 00:23:31,498 --> 00:23:32,398 is not right with you. 600 00:23:32,398 --> 00:23:33,698 So we're going to check your blood. 601 00:23:34,278 --> 00:23:36,338 So they come in, they do a blood test, they come 602 00:23:36,338 --> 00:23:38,678 back in, I'm just lying in this, I'm there forever. 603 00:23:38,908 --> 00:23:41,648 And they come back in and they say, all right, do 604 00:23:41,648 --> 00:23:43,148 you have leukemia or AIDS? 605 00:23:43,603 --> 00:23:45,653 You have like no immune system at all. 606 00:23:45,683 --> 00:23:47,643 Like it's not, you don't have any white blood cells. 607 00:23:48,633 --> 00:23:51,433 And I said, well, the good news is I don't have AIDS 608 00:23:51,433 --> 00:23:54,533 cause I refused the blood transfusion, but something 609 00:23:54,533 --> 00:23:55,863 happened with the bone marrow. 610 00:23:55,933 --> 00:23:57,963 And so I wasn't making blood. 611 00:23:59,173 --> 00:24:00,663 So people can get this thing. 612 00:24:00,663 --> 00:24:03,383 It's called a idiopathic aplastic anemia. 613 00:24:03,423 --> 00:24:05,363 And it's when the bone marrow gets suppressed and 614 00:24:05,363 --> 00:24:08,843 you're not making, you know, platelets or white blood 615 00:24:08,843 --> 00:24:10,943 cells, red blood cells, everything gets suppressed. 616 00:24:11,833 --> 00:24:13,803 So, They said, all right, well, you have 617 00:24:13,803 --> 00:24:14,403 no immune system. 618 00:24:14,403 --> 00:24:15,373 You have to go to the ER. 619 00:24:15,373 --> 00:24:17,623 And I said, I am not going to the ER. 620 00:24:18,123 --> 00:24:20,673 So they said, well, you can die if you don't go. 621 00:24:20,863 --> 00:24:23,703 And I said, okay, uh, I'll promise I will go if I get 622 00:24:23,703 --> 00:24:27,093 worse, any, any, any smidge of being worse, I will go. 623 00:24:27,793 --> 00:24:29,923 So they sent me home with, you know, steroids 624 00:24:29,923 --> 00:24:32,443 and they injected me with antibiotics and who knows 625 00:24:32,443 --> 00:24:34,123 what, and sent me home. 626 00:24:34,243 --> 00:24:36,503 They called the next day and said, how are you doing? 627 00:24:37,313 --> 00:24:38,623 And I said, I'm a little bit better. 628 00:24:39,023 --> 00:24:40,073 So they said, okay, good. 629 00:24:40,613 --> 00:24:42,403 And I managed to come out of that. 630 00:24:42,828 --> 00:24:45,208 And then two months later, now I start bruising. 631 00:24:45,208 --> 00:24:47,868 So I get, so now, now it's May. 632 00:24:48,258 --> 00:24:51,368 In May, so it's 11 months after I gave birth, I bump 633 00:24:51,368 --> 00:24:54,238 into the baby's changing table and something that 634 00:24:54,238 --> 00:24:56,578 would give you a bruise of like a small coin. 635 00:24:57,018 --> 00:24:59,278 I had a bruise that spanned my entire hip. 636 00:24:59,308 --> 00:25:00,218 It was purple. 637 00:25:00,218 --> 00:25:03,678 And so did I understand that something was wrong 638 00:25:03,688 --> 00:25:06,758 after growing up in a household of My father always 639 00:25:06,758 --> 00:25:07,718 talking about medicine. 640 00:25:07,728 --> 00:25:08,738 Yes, of course I did. 641 00:25:08,738 --> 00:25:09,888 I understood what was going on. 642 00:25:10,598 --> 00:25:13,708 And so I said, all right, I'm going to have, and 643 00:25:13,708 --> 00:25:15,678 I was getting pneumonia again, and it's May. 644 00:25:15,998 --> 00:25:18,008 Nobody gets pneumonia unless they have an 645 00:25:18,058 --> 00:25:19,168 underlying condition. 646 00:25:19,748 --> 00:25:21,808 So I, I get myself to this private doctor. 647 00:25:21,808 --> 00:25:25,308 We still didn't have insurance and I get there and he's 648 00:25:25,308 --> 00:25:26,368 listening to my lungs. 649 00:25:26,653 --> 00:25:29,333 And then he sees the big bruise and he 650 00:25:29,563 --> 00:25:30,563 jumps in front of me. 651 00:25:30,563 --> 00:25:32,773 He looks at me and he said, how did you get this bruise? 652 00:25:33,453 --> 00:25:35,663 And I said, I bumped into the baby's changing table. 653 00:25:36,373 --> 00:25:37,243 And he doesn't believe me. 654 00:25:37,243 --> 00:25:39,003 He thinks that my husband's beating me now. 655 00:25:39,023 --> 00:25:41,593 So luckily I had all my kids with me and he 656 00:25:41,593 --> 00:25:44,983 raises the shirt and all my kids and says, okay. 657 00:25:45,318 --> 00:25:45,958 I believe you. 658 00:25:45,958 --> 00:25:47,328 And I said, look, I'm telling you the truth. 659 00:25:47,358 --> 00:25:48,628 My father was a physician. 660 00:25:48,838 --> 00:25:51,458 This is what happened to me, but we're getting 661 00:25:51,468 --> 00:25:53,188 insurance July 1st. 662 00:25:53,248 --> 00:25:54,868 I only have six weeks to go. 663 00:25:54,868 --> 00:25:57,578 And I have, I said, I am so much better now than 664 00:25:57,578 --> 00:25:58,528 I was six months ago. 665 00:25:58,808 --> 00:26:01,698 Cause I put my children in the car and I drove myself 666 00:26:01,698 --> 00:26:03,748 here to get here to see you. 667 00:26:04,548 --> 00:26:06,528 So of course he gives me all the labs, which 668 00:26:06,568 --> 00:26:07,538 I don't do because. 669 00:26:07,813 --> 00:26:09,563 If I had done those labs, I would have had a 670 00:26:09,563 --> 00:26:11,423 pre existing condition, which means I wouldn't 671 00:26:11,423 --> 00:26:12,643 get insurance July 1st. 672 00:26:13,353 --> 00:26:16,803 And I said, all right, well, I have the labs and I just 673 00:26:16,803 --> 00:26:17,623 took all the medication. 674 00:26:17,623 --> 00:26:19,003 And again, I managed to come out of it. 675 00:26:19,623 --> 00:26:23,273 But what happened was that, you know, that whole bone 676 00:26:23,273 --> 00:26:25,093 marrow suppression that lasted for a couple of years. 677 00:26:25,093 --> 00:26:27,593 And this is how my second year death experience comes about. 678 00:26:28,083 --> 00:26:30,133 So during this whole time, I'm really sick. 679 00:26:30,173 --> 00:26:31,243 My watch has stopped. 680 00:26:31,353 --> 00:26:32,423 We can talk about that later. 681 00:26:32,423 --> 00:26:35,243 And, uh, how do you have this electrical interference? 682 00:26:35,243 --> 00:26:36,783 And I hear the spirit world talking. 683 00:26:37,413 --> 00:26:41,408 So two years later, Uh, I, every day I 684 00:26:41,408 --> 00:26:42,528 have this issue, right? 685 00:26:42,528 --> 00:26:45,028 I can't even stand up to cook for my kids. 686 00:26:45,058 --> 00:26:46,308 I have a stool in the kitchen. 687 00:26:46,308 --> 00:26:49,368 I remember my 90 year old grandmother had this stool 688 00:26:49,368 --> 00:26:51,168 in the kitchen so she wouldn't have to stand up. 689 00:26:51,798 --> 00:26:54,678 So, I, I got this stool so I could sit down because making 690 00:26:54,678 --> 00:26:55,828 pancakes would take too long. 691 00:26:55,828 --> 00:26:56,678 I would pass out. 692 00:26:57,028 --> 00:26:58,898 So, I could sit and flip the pancakes. 693 00:26:59,853 --> 00:27:04,103 So, and I had this feeling that the soul was always 694 00:27:04,103 --> 00:27:05,763 trying to leave, right, just like during my 695 00:27:05,763 --> 00:27:06,673 near death experience. 696 00:27:06,913 --> 00:27:08,953 Every day, several times a day, I would be, nope, 697 00:27:09,023 --> 00:27:11,053 we're not leaving, I'm going to hold on to you, 698 00:27:11,373 --> 00:27:12,643 like come back in the body. 699 00:27:13,133 --> 00:27:15,793 And I would sit down, put my head down, get some more 700 00:27:15,793 --> 00:27:17,753 blood flow, blood flow going. 701 00:27:18,843 --> 00:27:20,733 And many times in the middle of the night, I would wake 702 00:27:20,743 --> 00:27:24,573 up and Have that, you know, pounding head, take my head 703 00:27:24,573 --> 00:27:27,173 off the pillow because I was just blood deficient, right? 704 00:27:27,173 --> 00:27:29,363 I didn't have enough blood that going through my system. 705 00:27:30,323 --> 00:27:33,943 So two years later, same thing happens. 706 00:27:33,993 --> 00:27:37,693 And you know, it probably doesn't take much because when 707 00:27:37,693 --> 00:27:40,983 you already doesn't have any, that amount of blood, right? 708 00:27:40,983 --> 00:27:42,853 So your, your blood is, you know, keeping your 709 00:27:42,853 --> 00:27:43,773 blood pressure high. 710 00:27:44,183 --> 00:27:47,973 So people, uh, for example, who have POTS, that postural 711 00:27:48,233 --> 00:27:49,213 orthostatic tachycardia. 712 00:27:49,463 --> 00:27:51,253 So they bend over, they come up too quickly. 713 00:27:51,253 --> 00:27:51,953 They get dizzy. 714 00:27:51,953 --> 00:27:54,313 It's very common, especially after the pandemic. 715 00:27:54,343 --> 00:27:55,833 We see a lot of more people with that. 716 00:27:56,433 --> 00:27:58,473 And many times you just need more salt. 717 00:27:58,483 --> 00:28:00,053 You need more, more fluids. 718 00:28:00,053 --> 00:28:02,273 You need more electrolytes so that you can keep that 719 00:28:02,643 --> 00:28:04,033 blood pressure high too. 720 00:28:04,343 --> 00:28:05,493 So you don't pass out. 721 00:28:05,893 --> 00:28:07,533 Well, I didn't have any of knowledge about 722 00:28:07,563 --> 00:28:08,593 anything back then. 723 00:28:08,603 --> 00:28:11,453 So I was constantly, you know, on the verge 724 00:28:11,453 --> 00:28:13,633 of passing out and constantly had to sit down. 725 00:28:14,303 --> 00:28:17,723 So, I mean, all it would take is for me to be dehydrated 726 00:28:17,723 --> 00:28:20,593 that day to have another near death experience because 727 00:28:20,833 --> 00:28:22,853 I already was deficient in the blood because of 728 00:28:22,853 --> 00:28:23,823 the bone marrow issue. 729 00:28:24,443 --> 00:28:26,203 So here I am in the middle of the night. 730 00:28:26,628 --> 00:28:29,578 And I always joke that they saved me too quickly the 731 00:28:29,578 --> 00:28:32,448 first time, so I didn't get the full effect. 732 00:28:32,478 --> 00:28:35,228 It didn't, it didn't, I didn't have a course correction 733 00:28:35,388 --> 00:28:38,578 for my life path, so let's do it, let's have, let's 734 00:28:38,588 --> 00:28:40,688 have her have another near death experience so we can 735 00:28:40,688 --> 00:28:41,748 really get her on track. 736 00:28:42,458 --> 00:28:43,988 So here I am in the middle of the night, 737 00:28:44,108 --> 00:28:45,168 which happened often. 738 00:28:45,218 --> 00:28:46,948 I wake up, my head is pounding. 739 00:28:46,948 --> 00:28:49,238 I feel all lightheaded, feel like my soul is leaving. 740 00:28:49,738 --> 00:28:50,848 Take my head off the pillow. 741 00:28:51,918 --> 00:28:54,758 And I just, and it's just, I just, again, just a split 742 00:28:54,758 --> 00:28:56,318 second I'm outside my body. 743 00:28:56,808 --> 00:28:59,828 But this second experience is so different from the first. 744 00:29:00,408 --> 00:29:03,318 And now I'm just tumbling through darkness. 745 00:29:03,358 --> 00:29:05,038 So it's more like a Star Wars movie. 746 00:29:05,328 --> 00:29:09,228 Like I'm traveling through space as a soul. 747 00:29:09,963 --> 00:29:12,393 And I get to this place that I call the midstation 748 00:29:12,423 --> 00:29:16,063 only because I knew that there were levels. 749 00:29:16,353 --> 00:29:18,693 So there were levels above me and levels below me. 750 00:29:18,953 --> 00:29:21,893 It's like you go into a skyscraper that has a hundred 751 00:29:21,893 --> 00:29:24,793 floors and you say, Oh, I need to go to floor 50. 752 00:29:25,073 --> 00:29:26,383 You get off a floor 50. 753 00:29:26,718 --> 00:29:28,068 You know there are floors above you and 754 00:29:28,068 --> 00:29:28,758 floors below you. 755 00:29:28,758 --> 00:29:30,358 You're just, you're not seeing them. 756 00:29:30,368 --> 00:29:33,178 But it was that kind of a sensation that I was 757 00:29:33,178 --> 00:29:34,108 at this med station. 758 00:29:34,788 --> 00:29:37,588 And as I get to this place, I'm just in a 759 00:29:37,748 --> 00:29:40,618 soul, like a soul, like I don't have a body, right? 760 00:29:40,638 --> 00:29:41,518 I'm just in a soul. 761 00:29:42,418 --> 00:29:44,698 And I hear the most beautiful music. 762 00:29:45,683 --> 00:29:48,243 You can't make this music on earth. 763 00:29:48,273 --> 00:29:49,253 And I, I tried. 764 00:29:49,253 --> 00:29:52,543 I sat at a synthesizer for days with over 200 sounds. 765 00:29:52,543 --> 00:29:57,283 Is that any sound that sounds remotely similar to the sound 766 00:29:57,283 --> 00:30:01,113 I heard that you can't make this music on earth because 767 00:30:01,113 --> 00:30:02,363 it's more beautiful than that. 768 00:30:02,843 --> 00:30:06,133 So I hear this incredibly beautiful music and 769 00:30:06,133 --> 00:30:08,173 I'm thinking, where is this music coming from? 770 00:30:08,803 --> 00:30:11,913 And so I look to my right and I see this little log cabin. 771 00:30:12,743 --> 00:30:13,403 And I always laugh. 772 00:30:13,403 --> 00:30:15,633 It looks like a Swedish sauna, like the things we 773 00:30:15,633 --> 00:30:17,323 see, but that's what I see. 774 00:30:17,323 --> 00:30:18,573 I see this little log cabin. 775 00:30:19,093 --> 00:30:21,693 So I, I look at it and I open the door and I look 776 00:30:21,693 --> 00:30:23,253 inside, but it's empty. 777 00:30:23,993 --> 00:30:25,173 It's like, wow, that's so strange. 778 00:30:25,173 --> 00:30:27,553 So I look to my left and I see another log cabin 779 00:30:27,713 --> 00:30:29,433 and it looks just like the one on the right. 780 00:30:29,453 --> 00:30:30,573 It's like a mirror image. 781 00:30:30,943 --> 00:30:34,133 So I opened that cabin and I was like, wow, it's empty. 782 00:30:34,833 --> 00:30:37,203 And still hear the music, but then I become 783 00:30:37,203 --> 00:30:38,163 aware of the light. 784 00:30:38,313 --> 00:30:42,983 So this bright white light, the best description I have is 785 00:30:42,983 --> 00:30:47,243 if you take like a spotlight, like a stadium spotlight and 786 00:30:47,403 --> 00:30:49,033 shine it through fog, right? 787 00:30:49,053 --> 00:30:53,583 So it's this kind of, you're just immersed in 788 00:30:53,583 --> 00:30:56,173 this bright white light, but it's coming from behind me. 789 00:30:56,703 --> 00:31:00,463 So as I'm turning around now, I, and face the 790 00:31:00,463 --> 00:31:04,603 light, there is an outline of angels in this. 791 00:31:04,743 --> 00:31:06,963 Bright white light and the music is coming 792 00:31:06,963 --> 00:31:09,793 from the angels and I'm completely aware. 793 00:31:10,333 --> 00:31:12,333 I'm like, I'm looking at angels, but I don't 794 00:31:12,333 --> 00:31:13,883 believe in angels, right? 795 00:31:13,903 --> 00:31:15,083 So I'm very aware of it. 796 00:31:15,133 --> 00:31:18,003 So why am I seeing things that I don't even believe in? 797 00:31:18,163 --> 00:31:18,473 Right? 798 00:31:18,653 --> 00:31:22,053 So the music is coming from the angels, but then. 799 00:31:22,238 --> 00:31:26,238 There is this awareness, this, this light that is the 800 00:31:26,238 --> 00:31:29,098 divine source that we come from the, from the light. 801 00:31:29,148 --> 00:31:30,108 We are light. 802 00:31:30,658 --> 00:31:32,708 We are, we carry the light within us. 803 00:31:32,738 --> 00:31:36,318 We return to the light when we go on, you know, when we 804 00:31:36,318 --> 00:31:37,548 leave this earthly realm. 805 00:31:38,358 --> 00:31:40,608 But we come from that, that is the divine source. 806 00:31:40,608 --> 00:31:41,328 You can call it anything. 807 00:31:41,388 --> 00:31:43,258 I call it divine source because as soon as you 808 00:31:43,258 --> 00:31:47,398 label it, You know, God, you get stuck with a 809 00:31:47,398 --> 00:31:48,868 religious dogma, right? 810 00:31:49,038 --> 00:31:50,108 People wrote the Bible. 811 00:31:50,558 --> 00:31:52,718 God did not write the Bible or divine source 812 00:31:52,718 --> 00:31:53,728 did not write the Bible. 813 00:31:54,228 --> 00:31:56,638 There were people that decided what should be 814 00:31:56,638 --> 00:31:59,138 in the Bible or any other religious text on the earth. 815 00:31:59,818 --> 00:32:01,908 And, you know, if you go back in the day, we all had, 816 00:32:01,918 --> 00:32:05,108 we had all these goddesses and the divine feminine. 817 00:32:05,608 --> 00:32:08,508 Well, then we got Christianity and we got rid of all 818 00:32:08,518 --> 00:32:11,258 the goddesses and we all became, you know, men. 819 00:32:11,278 --> 00:32:13,368 So, depending, you know, if you do the research 820 00:32:13,368 --> 00:32:15,118 on that, I'm not an expert on that at all. 821 00:32:15,118 --> 00:32:19,838 But, uh, we really clearly, you can see that you can't 822 00:32:19,838 --> 00:32:22,388 call it, you can't label it with a religious name. 823 00:32:23,373 --> 00:32:24,803 So that is divine source. 824 00:32:25,293 --> 00:32:27,973 But then I become aware of two spirit, called 825 00:32:28,273 --> 00:32:29,083 the spirit guides. 826 00:32:29,083 --> 00:32:32,293 There's one on my right and one diagonally, diagonally 827 00:32:32,293 --> 00:32:33,283 to the left in front of me. 828 00:32:33,533 --> 00:32:35,663 And they're talking to each other, but I can hear them. 829 00:32:35,963 --> 00:32:38,223 So the one on my right says, Oh, what is she doing here? 830 00:32:38,223 --> 00:32:38,983 She can't be here. 831 00:32:38,983 --> 00:32:39,863 She has to go back. 832 00:32:40,683 --> 00:32:45,503 And I'm like, wait a second, it's been two years and I was 833 00:32:45,503 --> 00:32:47,813 still trying to process my first near death experience. 834 00:32:47,873 --> 00:32:48,173 Right. 835 00:32:48,423 --> 00:32:50,513 So I'm saying, no, no, no, wait a second. 836 00:32:50,713 --> 00:32:53,413 How can I be outside my body and still be me? 837 00:32:53,598 --> 00:32:54,678 You know, how does this work? 838 00:32:55,178 --> 00:32:58,018 And the spirit guide on my left says, well, if I showed 839 00:32:58,018 --> 00:33:00,248 you, right, you're not going to remember because 840 00:33:00,378 --> 00:33:04,008 there's something about what we get to remember. 841 00:33:04,028 --> 00:33:06,478 I think there's some kind of a mechanism, control mechanism. 842 00:33:06,988 --> 00:33:10,168 So then all of a sudden it's like I'm standing on the moon. 843 00:33:10,168 --> 00:33:12,178 It's, imagine just the movie screen just appear 844 00:33:12,178 --> 00:33:13,798 in front of you where you know, it's just all of a 845 00:33:13,798 --> 00:33:14,848 sudden you just see things. 846 00:33:15,458 --> 00:33:18,998 And I see the earth as if I'm standing on the moon 847 00:33:18,998 --> 00:33:19,898 looking down on earth. 848 00:33:20,438 --> 00:33:22,748 But then around the earth I called it. 849 00:33:22,748 --> 00:33:24,608 So this is, you know, 1994, we didn't have 850 00:33:24,613 --> 00:33:25,838 internet barely back then. 851 00:33:27,118 --> 00:33:30,118 I see it's, I call it the silvery, glittery, fishnet. 852 00:33:30,118 --> 00:33:32,458 So it was this kind of diamond shaped silvery. 853 00:33:33,803 --> 00:33:37,443 Sparkle, sparkly, glittery net around the earth. 854 00:33:37,983 --> 00:33:41,573 And I call it the fish net because I grew up in Sweden 855 00:33:41,633 --> 00:33:44,253 and there is, you know, the archipelago in Sweden 856 00:33:44,253 --> 00:33:45,713 with over 20, 000 islands. 857 00:33:46,053 --> 00:33:49,253 And so I spent my summers on an island in 858 00:33:49,263 --> 00:33:52,323 the archipelago with no electricity, no running water. 859 00:33:52,773 --> 00:33:53,303 And. 860 00:33:53,868 --> 00:33:56,118 I would row the boat for my grandmother as she 861 00:33:56,118 --> 00:33:58,428 laid fish nets in the ocean and would catch fish 862 00:33:58,428 --> 00:33:59,358 for the family to eat. 863 00:33:59,818 --> 00:34:02,528 So early in that early morning sun, as I'm rowing, you know, 864 00:34:02,528 --> 00:34:05,368 I'm like seven, eight years old rowing this boat and 865 00:34:05,388 --> 00:34:07,558 she lifted these fish nets out of the water, they're 866 00:34:07,558 --> 00:34:10,928 kind of diamond shaped, but when the, you have the water 867 00:34:10,928 --> 00:34:14,028 droplets on that, it's sort of shimmers and sparkles 868 00:34:14,028 --> 00:34:15,288 in this morning sunlight. 869 00:34:15,848 --> 00:34:18,708 So I'm looking at this and I feel like I'm standing on the 870 00:34:18,708 --> 00:34:19,698 moon looking down on earth. 871 00:34:19,948 --> 00:34:20,718 So to me, it. 872 00:34:20,973 --> 00:34:24,103 Looks like the sparkling fishnet because that's, you 873 00:34:24,103 --> 00:34:27,113 know, now you can Google it and say, grid around the earth 874 00:34:27,113 --> 00:34:29,413 and all these images come up, but we didn't have that then. 875 00:34:29,923 --> 00:34:32,363 I combed the San Francisco library for any information 876 00:34:32,363 --> 00:34:33,453 on this, could not find it. 877 00:34:33,973 --> 00:34:38,203 And so anyway, so here I am, and he says, Everything on 878 00:34:38,273 --> 00:34:42,133 earth is connected to each other, but everything on earth 879 00:34:42,293 --> 00:34:43,743 is connected up to this grid. 880 00:34:44,463 --> 00:34:46,813 And with that information, I got sent back. 881 00:34:47,683 --> 00:34:53,383 And so all these years later, so that was 1994, right? 882 00:34:53,853 --> 00:34:56,863 It's since the past three years, maybe like since about 883 00:34:56,863 --> 00:34:59,283 2020, it all makes sense. 884 00:34:59,493 --> 00:35:01,433 So that's how long. 885 00:35:01,668 --> 00:35:04,648 It's taken to put all those, that little 886 00:35:04,648 --> 00:35:07,108 message to understand what that really meant. 887 00:35:07,118 --> 00:35:07,968 What is the grid? 888 00:35:07,978 --> 00:35:08,758 How does it work? 889 00:35:08,798 --> 00:35:11,828 How are we interconnected to each other, right? 890 00:35:11,988 --> 00:35:14,248 Now we have more knowledge about that and quantum 891 00:35:14,248 --> 00:35:17,868 physics and, and how that all, and how we are actually 892 00:35:17,868 --> 00:35:18,978 all connected to each other. 893 00:35:19,918 --> 00:35:21,308 So that was my, that was my near death 894 00:35:21,308 --> 00:35:22,428 experience in a nutshell. 895 00:35:24,508 --> 00:35:25,488 I know it's a long story. 896 00:35:26,513 --> 00:35:30,283 Rod Bland: In your first NDE, your deceased sister 897 00:35:30,283 --> 00:35:34,323 in law spoke to you, who had died 10 days before. 898 00:35:34,973 --> 00:35:37,543 Was that when you started hearing other voices from 899 00:35:37,543 --> 00:35:39,513 the spirit world as well, or did that not come till later? 900 00:35:39,513 --> 00:35:40,473 Was it just a one off? 901 00:35:40,928 --> 00:35:41,308 Dr. Lotte Valentin: Yeah. 902 00:35:41,408 --> 00:35:43,538 So it started the day after. 903 00:35:43,893 --> 00:35:48,673 And a year later, before my second NDE, uh, I was 904 00:35:48,673 --> 00:35:51,003 lying in bed in the middle of the night and all of 905 00:35:51,003 --> 00:35:52,133 a sudden I become aware. 906 00:35:52,143 --> 00:35:53,143 I couldn't see him then. 907 00:35:53,453 --> 00:35:56,793 Now I see, often see the spirit world mostly, but then 908 00:35:56,793 --> 00:35:58,383 I didn't, I didn't see them. 909 00:35:58,383 --> 00:35:59,493 I just knew. 910 00:35:59,933 --> 00:36:02,358 And I was like, wow, my uncle is here. 911 00:36:02,518 --> 00:36:05,528 And he said, I have passed on, I've gone to the other side 912 00:36:05,528 --> 00:36:06,558 of, you know, I'm leaving. 913 00:36:06,558 --> 00:36:08,268 I'm just here to say goodbye and checking in. 914 00:36:08,938 --> 00:36:10,658 And it was my mom's brother. 915 00:36:10,958 --> 00:36:15,078 And I knew he had had lung cancer, but not that he 916 00:36:15,078 --> 00:36:16,598 would be passing away. 917 00:36:16,608 --> 00:36:18,288 Nobody had said anything. 918 00:36:18,808 --> 00:36:21,478 I think it was kind of a surprise that he 919 00:36:21,478 --> 00:36:22,538 did go at that time. 920 00:36:23,108 --> 00:36:25,858 And so the next day I'm thinking, okay, my mom's going 921 00:36:25,858 --> 00:36:28,258 to call me and let me know her, her brother passed away. 922 00:36:28,638 --> 00:36:29,328 Nobody called. 923 00:36:29,768 --> 00:36:31,048 I was like, wow, this is so strange. 924 00:36:31,798 --> 00:36:32,918 Another day goes by. 925 00:36:33,268 --> 00:36:35,608 So this was the night from Sunday to Monday. 926 00:36:35,608 --> 00:36:36,588 Nobody called Monday. 927 00:36:36,738 --> 00:36:37,808 Nobody called Tuesday. 928 00:36:38,178 --> 00:36:39,948 Wednesday, my mom finally calls. 929 00:36:40,618 --> 00:36:42,188 So she's, you know, doing the chitchat. 930 00:36:42,188 --> 00:36:43,008 How are you doing? 931 00:36:43,018 --> 00:36:43,808 How are the kids? 932 00:36:43,818 --> 00:36:44,358 Blah, blah, blah. 933 00:36:44,698 --> 00:36:47,778 And then she finally says, well, I have, you know, 934 00:36:47,778 --> 00:36:48,938 some sad news to share. 935 00:36:48,938 --> 00:36:52,678 And I said, yes, your brother passed away three days ago. 936 00:36:53,298 --> 00:36:53,638 And. 937 00:36:54,083 --> 00:36:56,043 It was just dead silence on the other side. 938 00:36:56,453 --> 00:36:58,153 She was like, how did you know that? 939 00:36:58,433 --> 00:36:59,753 And I said, he was here. 940 00:37:00,263 --> 00:37:02,643 So then she said, Oh, wow. 941 00:37:02,643 --> 00:37:03,963 You're just like my mom. 942 00:37:03,973 --> 00:37:04,973 You're just like grandma. 943 00:37:05,383 --> 00:37:07,843 Cause grandma always knew when people passed away. 944 00:37:08,253 --> 00:37:10,963 So, and I have memories too of my grandma. 945 00:37:11,518 --> 00:37:14,748 When we were on this island, and she was so upset one day, 946 00:37:14,778 --> 00:37:17,738 I was probably only about seven, and she said, you 947 00:37:17,738 --> 00:37:20,768 know, my friend, so and so, I don't remember who it was, 948 00:37:21,228 --> 00:37:23,998 uh, passed away at 2 a m, because this bird flew into 949 00:37:23,998 --> 00:37:25,438 my window and, and told me. 950 00:37:25,938 --> 00:37:27,068 And I said, okay. 951 00:37:27,118 --> 00:37:29,468 And so we have to, we had to get in this little boat, 952 00:37:29,488 --> 00:37:32,428 this little rowboat with an outboarder motor and drive 953 00:37:32,438 --> 00:37:34,008 15 minutes to an island. 954 00:37:34,728 --> 00:37:37,308 Another island that actually had a pay phone on it, and 955 00:37:37,308 --> 00:37:40,128 so that she could call her friend and get confirmation. 956 00:37:40,358 --> 00:37:43,178 And sure enough, she was absolutely right, but I 957 00:37:43,188 --> 00:37:45,708 think there was also more experiences that I never knew 958 00:37:45,708 --> 00:37:46,758 about because I was so little. 959 00:37:46,778 --> 00:37:48,398 My mom probably knew a lot more. 960 00:37:49,448 --> 00:37:51,698 There's something in the family about that. 961 00:37:52,168 --> 00:37:56,188 But, um, so the spirit world, you know, was, came in. 962 00:37:56,198 --> 00:37:58,968 It started, that mediumship started literally the 963 00:37:58,968 --> 00:38:00,418 day after my first NDE. 964 00:38:00,418 --> 00:38:01,488 I started here in the spirit world. 965 00:38:02,393 --> 00:38:04,143 Rod Bland: And you mentioned there was, there's electrical 966 00:38:04,143 --> 00:38:07,333 disturbances that occur, is that when they're nearby? 967 00:38:08,198 --> 00:38:10,588 Dr. Lotte Valentin: So the watch story, so 968 00:38:11,278 --> 00:38:12,638 it was, let me think. 969 00:38:12,648 --> 00:38:14,268 So it was nine months later. 970 00:38:14,268 --> 00:38:18,283 So my watch, I had put my watch on, um, You know, 971 00:38:18,283 --> 00:38:20,463 during the fall, I think it was September or so. 972 00:38:20,893 --> 00:38:24,623 And it, it died after like five or seven 973 00:38:24,623 --> 00:38:25,993 days, my watch stopped. 974 00:38:26,073 --> 00:38:29,153 And I was so, I was so mad because it's a watch. 975 00:38:29,173 --> 00:38:30,043 Now I don't have time. 976 00:38:30,043 --> 00:38:31,833 And we didn't have cell phones back then. 977 00:38:32,443 --> 00:38:34,683 So now I didn't have a watch, but I also wasn't well enough 978 00:38:34,683 --> 00:38:35,583 to go get another watch. 979 00:38:35,583 --> 00:38:36,133 And I was like, well. 980 00:38:36,428 --> 00:38:38,288 I'll just wait, you know, until I get well enough. 981 00:38:38,358 --> 00:38:42,498 Well, it was nine months later in March, I finally 982 00:38:42,508 --> 00:38:45,788 had the energy to put the kids in the car, drive to 983 00:38:45,918 --> 00:38:47,598 like the store, go inside. 984 00:38:47,628 --> 00:38:49,138 The watches were right inside. 985 00:38:49,453 --> 00:38:52,673 The, the entrance, picked out a watch, paid and left. 986 00:38:53,363 --> 00:38:56,893 So I wore that watch for about five days and it stopped. 987 00:38:57,223 --> 00:38:59,983 I said, wow, it was so much work to get that 988 00:38:59,983 --> 00:39:02,583 watch, you know, because I was not well at all. 989 00:39:02,593 --> 00:39:04,563 It was when the bone marrow suppression kit was coming on. 990 00:39:05,373 --> 00:39:08,573 So I said, all right, I'm going to wait a week or two. 991 00:39:08,573 --> 00:39:11,663 Then I returned, went back, returned the watch and the 992 00:39:11,663 --> 00:39:14,853 ladies, you know, at the, that desk where you return things 993 00:39:14,853 --> 00:39:16,043 said, Oh, that's so strange. 994 00:39:16,043 --> 00:39:18,323 We haven't gotten any other watches, but go ahead, 995 00:39:18,323 --> 00:39:19,203 pick out another watch. 996 00:39:19,573 --> 00:39:22,173 So I got the same watch, worked for five 997 00:39:22,173 --> 00:39:23,443 days and it stopped. 998 00:39:23,453 --> 00:39:25,413 It's like, wow. 999 00:39:25,863 --> 00:39:29,123 Bad luck must be some problem with quality control with 1000 00:39:29,123 --> 00:39:30,853 this particular manufacturer. 1001 00:39:31,563 --> 00:39:35,343 So went back a third time and again, the ladies at the 1002 00:39:35,343 --> 00:39:38,863 desk were, well, we haven't gotten any other watches back. 1003 00:39:38,893 --> 00:39:40,523 That's really strange, but go ahead and pick 1004 00:39:40,523 --> 00:39:41,293 out another watch. 1005 00:39:41,683 --> 00:39:45,583 So I picked out a different brand this time because I 1006 00:39:45,593 --> 00:39:47,643 thought there was definitely a manufacturing issue. 1007 00:39:48,153 --> 00:39:50,853 So I picked out a different watch, different brand, 1008 00:39:51,173 --> 00:39:52,253 wear it for five days. 1009 00:39:53,788 --> 00:39:55,728 So then I tell my friend, my friend comes 1010 00:39:55,728 --> 00:39:56,838 over with her kids. 1011 00:39:56,838 --> 00:39:59,158 So my kids could have some playmates and I 1012 00:39:59,158 --> 00:40:00,448 tell her about the watch. 1013 00:40:00,758 --> 00:40:01,998 And she looks at me and she goes. 1014 00:40:02,753 --> 00:40:04,523 It's not the watch, it's you, honey. 1015 00:40:05,793 --> 00:40:06,773 I was like, what do you mean? 1016 00:40:06,773 --> 00:40:07,343 It's me. 1017 00:40:07,633 --> 00:40:09,463 So she says, well, you're the one that's doing, 1018 00:40:09,593 --> 00:40:10,663 killing the watches. 1019 00:40:11,303 --> 00:40:14,243 So, but now, you know, we know if you, you know, go 1020 00:40:14,243 --> 00:40:16,953 to IANDS, International Association of Near Death 1021 00:40:16,953 --> 00:40:20,093 Studies, there is a lot of research that has been done. 1022 00:40:20,328 --> 00:40:22,668 Uh, for a long time and probably 50, 60 years. 1023 00:40:23,008 --> 00:40:25,368 And a common problem is actually that the watches 1024 00:40:25,378 --> 00:40:27,568 stop and people get sick. 1025 00:40:27,618 --> 00:40:29,878 Uh, people get divorced within seven years. 1026 00:40:30,278 --> 00:40:33,238 Um, people have a hard time with loud noises and 1027 00:40:33,238 --> 00:40:34,998 all these different things that have physiological 1028 00:40:34,998 --> 00:40:38,488 and psychological issues that come, um, after 1029 00:40:38,488 --> 00:40:40,788 somebody else had a near death experience and the 1030 00:40:40,788 --> 00:40:41,918 watches is one of them. 1031 00:40:42,568 --> 00:40:44,238 So it took me. 1032 00:40:44,613 --> 00:40:45,703 12 years. 1033 00:40:46,433 --> 00:40:49,853 So when my daughter was about three, I had 16 or 1034 00:40:49,863 --> 00:40:51,503 17 watches in my drawer. 1035 00:40:52,153 --> 00:40:52,253 Rod Bland: Huh. 1036 00:40:52,303 --> 00:40:53,313 Dr. Lotte Valentin: I would just get a new watch. 1037 00:40:54,193 --> 00:40:55,923 And then, so I started saving the watches. 1038 00:40:55,923 --> 00:40:56,763 I said, well, you never know. 1039 00:40:56,763 --> 00:40:57,933 They might start ticking again. 1040 00:40:58,493 --> 00:41:01,263 So after a while, so when the watch died, I would 1041 00:41:01,263 --> 00:41:02,953 put in a drawer and I would, I would always get 1042 00:41:02,953 --> 00:41:04,253 a watch with a second hand. 1043 00:41:04,633 --> 00:41:05,883 So I knew if it was working. 1044 00:41:06,343 --> 00:41:07,913 So, wow, this one is ticking. 1045 00:41:07,913 --> 00:41:08,433 Look at that. 1046 00:41:08,463 --> 00:41:10,043 The second hand is moving again. 1047 00:41:10,043 --> 00:41:11,853 So I would wear that and I could wear it for 1048 00:41:11,853 --> 00:41:12,693 about a week or two. 1049 00:41:13,253 --> 00:41:17,073 So, After, after about one year, my watch 1050 00:41:17,103 --> 00:41:18,153 lasted about a month. 1051 00:41:18,183 --> 00:41:20,053 After two years, it lasted about two months. 1052 00:41:20,103 --> 00:41:21,773 After three years, it lasted three months. 1053 00:41:22,343 --> 00:41:26,463 And so it took me 12 years for my watch to take almost 1054 00:41:26,463 --> 00:41:28,543 to the day, 12 months. 1055 00:41:28,923 --> 00:41:30,813 And at that point I said, 12 years, that's it. 1056 00:41:30,833 --> 00:41:32,283 My watch worked for a year. 1057 00:41:32,283 --> 00:41:32,883 I'm healed. 1058 00:41:33,643 --> 00:41:37,173 So, and that's when, now I've heard. 1059 00:41:37,688 --> 00:41:39,428 The spirit world for 12 years. 1060 00:41:39,458 --> 00:41:42,398 And I would get warnings about accidents. 1061 00:41:42,498 --> 00:41:45,678 I saw my kids, I remotely had remote, you know, 1062 00:41:45,718 --> 00:41:49,278 remote, um, my kids almost got run over by a truck and 1063 00:41:49,278 --> 00:41:53,358 I saw it even though I was a half hour car ride away. 1064 00:41:53,358 --> 00:41:55,598 So they were in San Francisco and I was in East Bay, 1065 00:41:55,598 --> 00:41:57,838 San Francisco, where we're at home in the house. 1066 00:41:58,338 --> 00:41:58,828 And. 1067 00:41:59,553 --> 00:42:01,403 All of a sudden, I'm thinking, okay, well, the 1068 00:42:01,403 --> 00:42:02,893 kids are going to be home in an hour or two, I should 1069 00:42:02,893 --> 00:42:03,903 start prepping dinner. 1070 00:42:04,973 --> 00:42:08,513 So, my middle son was, uh, about 17, and my 1071 00:42:08,513 --> 00:42:10,783 daughter was like 14, so he was driving now. 1072 00:42:11,333 --> 00:42:14,773 And, so, he's in the car, he's driving, his girlfriend 1073 00:42:14,773 --> 00:42:17,763 is in the front seat, and my daughter's in the back seat. 1074 00:42:18,343 --> 00:42:20,483 So, I'm walking to the kitchen, and all of a sudden, 1075 00:42:20,503 --> 00:42:23,103 it's like I'm standing on the street in San Francisco. 1076 00:42:23,103 --> 00:42:27,793 I see Our car, I see my son waiting at a red light. 1077 00:42:27,863 --> 00:42:30,613 He's trying to make a U turn and he's waiting 1078 00:42:30,613 --> 00:42:31,363 for the light to go. 1079 00:42:31,383 --> 00:42:33,983 He's going from yellow to red and he's going to 1080 00:42:34,023 --> 00:42:36,013 whip the car around before the other cars come. 1081 00:42:36,503 --> 00:42:39,853 Well, he's waiting for that yellow red and he says, okay, 1082 00:42:39,853 --> 00:42:41,663 now I'm going to go because the other cars are stopping. 1083 00:42:41,883 --> 00:42:43,003 Well, there's a truck that's. 1084 00:42:43,228 --> 00:42:44,758 Coming in the opposite direction 1085 00:42:44,768 --> 00:42:46,008 and he's not stopping. 1086 00:42:46,538 --> 00:42:49,538 So the truck is accelerating to get through the light 1087 00:42:49,578 --> 00:42:51,638 before it turns red, instead of slowing down. 1088 00:42:51,888 --> 00:42:53,108 My son is counting on that. 1089 00:42:53,108 --> 00:42:54,158 The truck's going to stop. 1090 00:42:54,178 --> 00:42:56,098 So he whips the car around, but the truck 1091 00:42:56,098 --> 00:42:57,418 isn't accelerating. 1092 00:42:58,118 --> 00:43:00,118 So I see them turning around. 1093 00:43:00,118 --> 00:43:02,328 I see my daughter getting flung in the backseat 1094 00:43:02,328 --> 00:43:04,958 as he's just stepping on the gas pedal. 1095 00:43:05,308 --> 00:43:07,198 And I, I mean, it's like an inch away. 1096 00:43:07,248 --> 00:43:10,198 I see the truck like right behind our car. 1097 00:43:10,758 --> 00:43:15,603 And I see them speeding down the street and my heart is 1098 00:43:15,723 --> 00:43:19,183 pounding and I'm just sitting down, you know, at the kitchen 1099 00:43:19,183 --> 00:43:21,753 counter saying, Oh my gosh, thank you, spirit world. 1100 00:43:22,063 --> 00:43:23,193 Thank you for saving them. 1101 00:43:23,733 --> 00:43:26,933 And I did, it took me like 10 minutes to, before I could 1102 00:43:26,933 --> 00:43:28,428 even start prepping dinner. 1103 00:43:28,428 --> 00:43:29,268 I knew they were safe. 1104 00:43:29,268 --> 00:43:30,478 I saw them speed off. 1105 00:43:31,128 --> 00:43:34,658 And then, you know, two hours later they come home and I 1106 00:43:34,658 --> 00:43:36,808 knew they were really hungry, so I let them eat first. 1107 00:43:37,318 --> 00:43:39,868 And as they finished their food, my daughter looks up 1108 00:43:39,898 --> 00:43:43,368 at me and she says, mom, we almost got hit by a truck. 1109 00:43:43,768 --> 00:43:46,028 And I look at them and I say, yeah, I know. 1110 00:43:46,028 --> 00:43:47,458 I saw you on Embarcadero. 1111 00:43:47,468 --> 00:43:49,448 You made a U turn at a red light, at the red light. 1112 00:43:49,768 --> 00:43:51,408 And the kid's jaws just, 1113 00:43:52,053 --> 00:43:53,133 Rod Bland: Ha ha. 1114 00:43:53,513 --> 00:43:55,373 Because they were making up a story that they thought would 1115 00:43:55,373 --> 00:43:56,913 be palatable to you, no doubt. 1116 00:43:57,633 --> 00:43:58,553 Being teenagers. 1117 00:44:00,528 --> 00:44:02,278 Dr. Lotte Valentin: is, you know, really fascinating how. 1118 00:44:02,828 --> 00:44:04,868 You know, we have so many abilities that, and you 1119 00:44:04,868 --> 00:44:07,078 know, there's so many stories like that, especially 1120 00:44:07,088 --> 00:44:09,348 moms seeing their, knowing that their kids are going 1121 00:44:09,348 --> 00:44:10,478 to be in danger, right? 1122 00:44:10,508 --> 00:44:12,438 They see them in danger or they know they're 1123 00:44:12,438 --> 00:44:13,358 going to be in danger. 1124 00:44:13,418 --> 00:44:17,378 So that interconnectedness, that, that grid that I saw 1125 00:44:17,378 --> 00:44:19,278 and how we are all connected to each other and we're 1126 00:44:19,278 --> 00:44:20,318 all connected up and out. 1127 00:44:21,118 --> 00:44:24,288 I could not, you know, that is exactly how 1128 00:44:24,288 --> 00:44:25,018 things are working. 1129 00:44:25,018 --> 00:44:28,538 And that's my work today is, you know, to help people heal. 1130 00:44:29,223 --> 00:44:31,363 Uh, help them understand why it is they're sick 1131 00:44:31,363 --> 00:44:33,733 and how they're connected to their ancestors. 1132 00:44:34,013 --> 00:44:36,803 As much as I would like to say we are individuals, 1133 00:44:37,253 --> 00:44:38,373 uh, and we're not. 1134 00:44:38,823 --> 00:44:42,723 Affected by our ancestors, and I'm not talking about DNA. 1135 00:44:42,723 --> 00:44:45,213 I'm talking about their actions, reactions, and 1136 00:44:45,213 --> 00:44:47,303 interactions with other people, their own trauma, 1137 00:44:47,303 --> 00:44:48,933 their own emotional trauma. 1138 00:44:49,623 --> 00:44:51,413 We are absolutely connected to that. 1139 00:44:51,853 --> 00:44:55,933 And they actually even know that, um, they see the DNA. 1140 00:44:55,933 --> 00:44:58,453 They have done, um, research on Holocaust 1141 00:44:58,453 --> 00:45:01,213 survivors and they can see now into the third. 1142 00:45:01,408 --> 00:45:03,188 the next generation, the grandchildren of those 1143 00:45:03,188 --> 00:45:06,208 Holocaust survivors, that there's a changes in the 1144 00:45:06,208 --> 00:45:09,508 DNA and they've identified some genes like the FKBP5 1145 00:45:09,508 --> 00:45:10,478 gene and some other genes. 1146 00:45:10,938 --> 00:45:14,018 So they can see, we actually transfer trauma via the 1147 00:45:14,018 --> 00:45:16,188 DNA to our offspring. 1148 00:45:16,728 --> 00:45:19,438 So those emotion, those emotional issues that our 1149 00:45:19,438 --> 00:45:22,558 grandparents had, you know, grandfather served in the war. 1150 00:45:22,778 --> 00:45:24,798 He thought it was going to die, all that. 1151 00:45:25,078 --> 00:45:28,363 You're carrying that on your DNA, but also, We 1152 00:45:28,363 --> 00:45:30,543 are connected through quantum physics because 1153 00:45:30,543 --> 00:45:32,813 we are entangled through quantum physics. 1154 00:45:32,823 --> 00:45:36,173 So the people that won the, got the physics Nobel 1155 00:45:36,173 --> 00:45:39,583 prize last year, the three physicists that proved that 1156 00:45:39,583 --> 00:45:42,573 two atoms meet and then whatever, then they separate 1157 00:45:42,593 --> 00:45:45,283 the atoms, whatever happens to atom A affects atom B. 1158 00:45:45,648 --> 00:45:47,368 Even though they're separated, right? 1159 00:45:47,368 --> 00:45:49,998 So, like, think of this, and then if the items have babies, 1160 00:45:49,998 --> 00:45:51,248 they're also entangled. 1161 00:45:51,528 --> 00:45:54,078 So, if you have an apple, they meet the other apple, you 1162 00:45:54,078 --> 00:45:56,948 put one apple in Australia, the other apple in Sweden, 1163 00:45:57,198 --> 00:45:59,418 whatever happens, the apple A in Australia is going to 1164 00:45:59,418 --> 00:46:01,128 affect apple B in Sweden. 1165 00:46:01,508 --> 00:46:02,388 And that's how it is. 1166 00:46:02,618 --> 00:46:06,168 We know that from All the intention experiments, like 1167 00:46:06,178 --> 00:46:09,628 Lynn McTaggart's work, that started back in 1980 or 1990. 1168 00:46:09,998 --> 00:46:12,948 So we can see this, I mean, we can prove it scientifically. 1169 00:46:13,958 --> 00:46:16,868 What I'm doing as I work with that, uh, with people 1170 00:46:16,878 --> 00:46:19,348 with ancestral healing and the entanglement that we 1171 00:46:19,348 --> 00:46:20,858 have with our ancestors. 1172 00:46:21,368 --> 00:46:24,863 So It's fascinating because this happened in 1992 and 1173 00:46:24,863 --> 00:46:29,643 94, but it wasn't until basically, you know, 2020 or 1174 00:46:29,753 --> 00:46:32,873 2018 or something that things finally started to make sense. 1175 00:46:33,453 --> 00:46:36,673 So it always takes a long time for things to fall into place. 1176 00:46:36,703 --> 00:46:39,733 You don't become a medium overnight, right? 1177 00:46:39,733 --> 00:46:43,513 It takes years to develop it takes years of meditation 1178 00:46:43,533 --> 00:46:45,953 takes years of listening to the spirit world. 1179 00:46:46,993 --> 00:46:48,983 Rod Bland: You mentioned something about, uh, when 1180 00:46:48,983 --> 00:46:51,403 you were in the, when you crossed over into the spirit 1181 00:46:51,403 --> 00:46:54,133 world after your NDE, that there was no time, but it 1182 00:46:54,133 --> 00:46:56,313 took you many years to kind of wrap your head around that. 1183 00:46:56,963 --> 00:46:57,793 What did you work out? 1184 00:46:58,673 --> 00:46:59,683 Dr. Lotte Valentin: You're right So, oh my 1185 00:46:59,683 --> 00:47:01,053 gosh, you drove me crazy. 1186 00:47:01,053 --> 00:47:04,943 So I had the experience 1992 or 1994, right? 1187 00:47:05,153 --> 00:47:08,623 And then we moved to San Francisco year 2000. 1188 00:47:08,883 --> 00:47:13,593 And so it was in the early 2000s Between 2000 and 2004, 1189 00:47:14,073 --> 00:47:16,283 and my kids were going to school in the city, so I 1190 00:47:16,283 --> 00:47:17,313 was in the city every day. 1191 00:47:17,323 --> 00:47:20,503 I had drove them to the city and the San Francisco 1192 00:47:20,503 --> 00:47:23,493 Public Library, which is a huge library, was five 1193 00:47:23,493 --> 00:47:24,483 minutes from their school. 1194 00:47:24,593 --> 00:47:28,363 So I would go to that library and look for anything, 1195 00:47:28,883 --> 00:47:31,343 any information on that grid that I had seen. 1196 00:47:31,618 --> 00:47:34,378 Any information on time, I would read Stephen 1197 00:47:34,378 --> 00:47:36,968 Hawking books on time. 1198 00:47:37,628 --> 00:47:41,348 I would skip those crazy math calculations. 1199 00:47:41,638 --> 00:47:43,308 It's like, I have no idea what you're talking about here. 1200 00:47:43,308 --> 00:47:43,818 Skip that. 1201 00:47:43,858 --> 00:47:45,428 Just give me the English text, please. 1202 00:47:46,158 --> 00:47:48,918 Could not figure out, you know, why is it that there's 1203 00:47:48,918 --> 00:47:50,438 no time on the other side? 1204 00:47:50,438 --> 00:47:53,118 But now, I mean, if you listen to the physicists, 1205 00:47:53,118 --> 00:47:54,868 they're like, oh, there's no time on the other side. 1206 00:47:55,128 --> 00:47:57,038 It's just an illusion, right? 1207 00:47:57,038 --> 00:47:59,448 We have the illusion, just like we have an illusion 1208 00:47:59,863 --> 00:48:00,923 That we are separate. 1209 00:48:01,463 --> 00:48:04,473 We, when we come here to have this earthly experience, 1210 00:48:04,483 --> 00:48:07,703 we're under the illusion that we're separate from our 1211 00:48:07,703 --> 00:48:10,553 ancestors and what they did, all the things they did wrong 1212 00:48:10,553 --> 00:48:13,333 and treated people wrong has nothing to do with us. 1213 00:48:13,443 --> 00:48:14,523 I'm separate from them. 1214 00:48:15,253 --> 00:48:15,983 No, we're not. 1215 00:48:16,573 --> 00:48:19,773 And I work with, I work with a lot of, I work with 1216 00:48:19,813 --> 00:48:23,303 people all over the world, but I think it's especially 1217 00:48:23,803 --> 00:48:26,733 fun, uh, you know, when you work with somebody who's a 1218 00:48:26,733 --> 00:48:31,363 psychotherapist, a physician, counsellor, and And then they 1219 00:48:31,363 --> 00:48:33,543 said, like, I don't understand why I have this issue. 1220 00:48:33,963 --> 00:48:36,093 And then you point something out and put all the 1221 00:48:36,093 --> 00:48:37,193 pieces together for them. 1222 00:48:37,483 --> 00:48:39,833 And they say, wow, I do this for other 1223 00:48:39,833 --> 00:48:41,893 people, but I couldn't see it in my own life. 1224 00:48:42,253 --> 00:48:44,813 But we're so entangled with, you know, first of all, we 1225 00:48:44,813 --> 00:48:48,193 have so many emotions about, you know, our parents or 1226 00:48:48,243 --> 00:48:51,213 siblings or however, you know, raised us and the environment 1227 00:48:51,213 --> 00:48:54,453 we're in and school issues growing up that we can't. 1228 00:48:54,583 --> 00:48:56,703 We can't quite see it and we can't put the things together. 1229 00:48:56,933 --> 00:48:58,913 And it's not until you start looking at the whole family. 1230 00:48:58,913 --> 00:49:00,553 Well, tell me about your grandparents. 1231 00:49:00,563 --> 00:49:02,853 Tell me about your aunts and uncle and who ran a 1232 00:49:02,863 --> 00:49:04,803 business, who didn't treat their employees right. 1233 00:49:04,833 --> 00:49:05,503 Oh, there it is. 1234 00:49:05,863 --> 00:49:10,233 And you can see how these patterns of how other people 1235 00:49:10,233 --> 00:49:13,073 were treated by somebody else in their family. 1236 00:49:13,073 --> 00:49:14,783 But that is the burden they're carrying. 1237 00:49:15,203 --> 00:49:15,913 It's, it's fast. 1238 00:49:15,943 --> 00:49:18,263 It's absolutely fascinating because we, we're under, 1239 00:49:18,363 --> 00:49:20,333 we're under the impression that we're completely 1240 00:49:20,333 --> 00:49:23,673 separate and independent and we're not related to these 1241 00:49:23,873 --> 00:49:25,233 crazy relatives of ours. 1242 00:49:25,243 --> 00:49:26,613 Everybody has crazy relatives. 1243 00:49:27,003 --> 00:49:29,643 I don't, I have, there is no such thing as 1244 00:49:29,643 --> 00:49:30,613 a perfect family. 1245 00:49:30,923 --> 00:49:32,493 Everybody has a crazy relative. 1246 00:49:32,803 --> 00:49:36,683 Everybody has somebody in their family that when 1247 00:49:36,683 --> 00:49:39,753 you were a little kid and you said, you know, 1248 00:49:40,293 --> 00:49:41,803 what about Uncle Billy? 1249 00:49:42,323 --> 00:49:43,833 Your mom turns to you and says, we don't 1250 00:49:43,863 --> 00:49:45,043 talk about Uncle Billy. 1251 00:49:45,043 --> 00:49:49,263 It's like, oh no, no, we're not bringing that up. 1252 00:49:49,293 --> 00:49:50,213 Grandma's here now. 1253 00:49:50,443 --> 00:49:50,713 Right. 1254 00:49:50,743 --> 00:49:52,743 And we sweep all those things under the carpet. 1255 00:49:53,083 --> 00:49:56,803 And it's those unresolved issues of our ancestors 1256 00:49:57,113 --> 00:49:59,453 that were swept under the carpet, the wrongdoings, 1257 00:49:59,853 --> 00:50:01,143 the traumatic events. 1258 00:50:01,503 --> 00:50:03,463 That gets swept under the carpet that nobody ever 1259 00:50:03,463 --> 00:50:06,923 resolves, that's what gets passed down, but it doesn't 1260 00:50:06,923 --> 00:50:10,533 mean You know, if you have a crazy family, there's a lot of 1261 00:50:10,543 --> 00:50:13,923 trauma in your whole, like all your family, it doesn't mean 1262 00:50:13,933 --> 00:50:15,003 you're carrying all of that. 1263 00:50:15,023 --> 00:50:16,713 No, you, you picked like maybe three or 1264 00:50:16,713 --> 00:50:17,833 four things out of that. 1265 00:50:17,843 --> 00:50:19,803 Somebody else got another three or four things. 1266 00:50:20,333 --> 00:50:21,533 I feel like it's a division. 1267 00:50:21,533 --> 00:50:25,323 You're up there in the spirit world and it's, we say, all 1268 00:50:25,323 --> 00:50:28,293 right, well, you know, I need a life where I'm going 1269 00:50:28,293 --> 00:50:31,803 to learn about these things and you need a life where 1270 00:50:31,813 --> 00:50:33,933 you need to have a mom like this, and I could be your 1271 00:50:33,933 --> 00:50:35,213 mom and do that for you. 1272 00:50:35,593 --> 00:50:37,453 And we write these soul contracts and then we 1273 00:50:37,453 --> 00:50:39,803 come down to earth and we have no memory of that. 1274 00:50:40,083 --> 00:50:40,973 It's all gone. 1275 00:50:41,323 --> 00:50:45,253 And then we just go through life and try to jump over the 1276 00:50:45,253 --> 00:50:46,463 hurdles as they come along. 1277 00:50:46,993 --> 00:50:51,973 But we're so connected to our ancestors, but we 1278 00:50:51,973 --> 00:50:53,433 think, but it's an illusion. 1279 00:50:53,433 --> 00:50:53,903 We're not. 1280 00:50:54,953 --> 00:50:57,393 Rod Bland: Now, at some point after your second NDE, 1281 00:50:57,613 --> 00:50:59,873 something, you must have decided that you were going 1282 00:50:59,873 --> 00:51:01,073 to go to medical school. 1283 00:51:01,393 --> 00:51:02,113 Tell us about that. 1284 00:51:02,788 --> 00:51:04,908 Dr. Lotte Valentin: Yeah, so it was so 1285 00:51:04,908 --> 00:51:05,948 after 12 years, right? 1286 00:51:05,948 --> 00:51:08,398 My watch ticked for an entire 12 months. 1287 00:51:08,518 --> 00:51:09,518 I'm like, that's it. 1288 00:51:09,548 --> 00:51:10,288 I'm healed. 1289 00:51:10,638 --> 00:51:13,438 And I knew that I was now it was well enough. 1290 00:51:13,438 --> 00:51:15,118 I could actually move on with my life. 1291 00:51:15,118 --> 00:51:17,698 It had been a long, long time. 1292 00:51:17,698 --> 00:51:22,038 So I started like a kids quality toys business 1293 00:51:22,048 --> 00:51:24,028 online back when there was no templates for 1294 00:51:24,028 --> 00:51:24,938 making a website. 1295 00:51:25,238 --> 00:51:27,618 You literally had to be a programmer to, you know, 1296 00:51:27,618 --> 00:51:29,938 I just read an HTML for dummies and then put it 1297 00:51:29,938 --> 00:51:31,448 together in like a day, right? 1298 00:51:31,448 --> 00:51:33,078 Because I had the coding experience. 1299 00:51:33,158 --> 00:51:35,238 So it was easy for me to make that work. 1300 00:51:35,568 --> 00:51:37,748 I literally started my business on a 1301 00:51:38,078 --> 00:51:40,068 sample floppy drive. 1302 00:51:40,993 --> 00:51:41,473 Rod Bland: Wow. 1303 00:51:42,963 --> 00:51:44,493 Dr. Lotte Valentin: And that's how I just, you know, use 1304 00:51:44,493 --> 00:51:45,843 that and started my business. 1305 00:51:46,493 --> 00:51:48,153 Cause I thought I was never going to be well. 1306 00:51:48,233 --> 00:51:52,373 And then, and in 2004, I was like, wow, I made 1307 00:51:52,373 --> 00:51:53,673 it like I'm healed. 1308 00:51:54,233 --> 00:51:57,873 And I, my kids were in the city at school and 1309 00:51:57,873 --> 00:51:59,353 I got on the computer and I said, you know. 1310 00:51:59,723 --> 00:52:02,563 When I go back to work, I can't go back to being 1311 00:52:02,563 --> 00:52:05,203 a Programmer Systems Analyst because now I was a 1312 00:52:05,203 --> 00:52:06,293 completely different person. 1313 00:52:06,773 --> 00:52:10,083 And I knew I had to work with healing people and that was 1314 00:52:10,133 --> 00:52:12,353 really my calling and I had always wanted to do that. 1315 00:52:12,973 --> 00:52:18,063 So I'm thinking, well, maybe there is some online degree 1316 00:52:18,063 --> 00:52:20,733 I can do, you know, build on my nutrition degree that I 1317 00:52:20,733 --> 00:52:22,133 had gotten back in the 1980s. 1318 00:52:22,878 --> 00:52:26,518 So, I stumbled across this website and it says 1319 00:52:26,978 --> 00:52:30,338 Naturopathic Medical School, become a naturopathic doctor. 1320 00:52:30,788 --> 00:52:33,468 They get trained in pharmaceuticals, they get 1321 00:52:33,468 --> 00:52:37,878 trained in botanical medicine, acupuncture, homeopathy, 1322 00:52:38,128 --> 00:52:40,338 you know, supplements, nutrition, and it's like 1323 00:52:40,338 --> 00:52:41,948 the whole holistic package. 1324 00:52:41,948 --> 00:52:44,898 Then I realized it's a real medical school. 1325 00:52:45,758 --> 00:52:46,438 I'm like, wow. 1326 00:52:46,923 --> 00:52:49,653 That sounds really cool, but I can't do that. 1327 00:52:49,733 --> 00:52:51,923 And there's only five of those medical schools in 1328 00:52:51,923 --> 00:52:52,813 all of the United States. 1329 00:52:53,823 --> 00:52:57,083 As I said, four year degree is a real medical school. 1330 00:52:57,083 --> 00:52:58,433 You become a real doctor. 1331 00:52:58,623 --> 00:53:02,943 And I mean, if I did it, I'm in my forties now, right? 1332 00:53:02,973 --> 00:53:05,333 So if I did it, there's no guarantee they 1333 00:53:05,333 --> 00:53:06,143 would even accept me. 1334 00:53:06,143 --> 00:53:08,793 And I got to do all the prereqs biochemistry, like 1335 00:53:09,033 --> 00:53:12,273 the chemistry, biology, physics, math, just to 1336 00:53:12,273 --> 00:53:13,673 do the prereqs, right? 1337 00:53:13,673 --> 00:53:14,673 So I can even apply. 1338 00:53:15,483 --> 00:53:18,453 So I'm like, okay, fine, I'm closing the computer. 1339 00:53:18,523 --> 00:53:21,103 I'll go start dinner and I'll look tomorrow. 1340 00:53:21,103 --> 00:53:22,313 There's got to be something out there. 1341 00:53:22,813 --> 00:53:26,383 So as I'm walking towards the kitchen, I become 1342 00:53:26,383 --> 00:53:28,063 aware of the spirit world dropping in on me. 1343 00:53:28,723 --> 00:53:31,963 So the spirit world says you have to go to medical 1344 00:53:31,963 --> 00:53:34,443 school and you have to be a doctor and you have 1345 00:53:34,443 --> 00:53:36,033 to combine East and West. 1346 00:53:36,053 --> 00:53:37,133 I'm like, okay, East and West. 1347 00:53:37,143 --> 00:53:38,713 That's kind of naturopathic medicine, 1348 00:53:38,843 --> 00:53:40,323 like old and new kind of. 1349 00:53:40,853 --> 00:53:43,023 And, uh, you're to write two books. 1350 00:53:43,403 --> 00:53:44,293 No, wait, three. 1351 00:53:45,048 --> 00:53:50,308 And, and I also knew that, um, how am I supposed to do this? 1352 00:53:50,778 --> 00:53:52,968 And they said, you're also, so they also said, you have to 1353 00:53:52,968 --> 00:53:54,248 bring messages to the people. 1354 00:53:54,458 --> 00:53:55,808 I'm like, Matt, what are you talking about? 1355 00:53:55,818 --> 00:53:57,318 What am I supposed to write about? 1356 00:53:57,618 --> 00:53:59,378 Like, I'm not thinking of myself as an author 1357 00:53:59,388 --> 00:54:00,688 or a writer, never have. 1358 00:54:01,118 --> 00:54:03,618 And, and then they say, no bringing messages. 1359 00:54:03,618 --> 00:54:04,578 I'm like, what messages? 1360 00:54:04,578 --> 00:54:05,838 And they're like, don't worry about it. 1361 00:54:05,868 --> 00:54:08,298 When the time is right, we will tell you for now, 1362 00:54:08,328 --> 00:54:11,018 just focus on getting your doctorate degree because 1363 00:54:11,018 --> 00:54:12,978 you need that degree for the work you're here to do. 1364 00:54:13,703 --> 00:54:16,343 So after listening to the spirit world for 12 years, 1365 00:54:16,343 --> 00:54:18,953 having gotten warned about accidents and people dying 1366 00:54:18,953 --> 00:54:22,108 and people being sick, I mean, I could talk for hours, 1367 00:54:22,108 --> 00:54:23,738 right, about all the different things that happened. 1368 00:54:24,338 --> 00:54:26,208 And I said, okay. 1369 00:54:26,708 --> 00:54:29,388 And within two weeks I was enrolled. 1370 00:54:29,408 --> 00:54:31,988 I, it was right before, it was two weeks before the community 1371 00:54:31,988 --> 00:54:33,168 college started, started. 1372 00:54:33,568 --> 00:54:35,788 So I was enrolled within two weeks and I had to 1373 00:54:35,788 --> 00:54:38,208 start from the beginning because I was a business 1374 00:54:38,208 --> 00:54:39,408 major as an undergraduate. 1375 00:54:39,408 --> 00:54:40,948 So I didn't even have the biology. 1376 00:54:41,308 --> 00:54:42,228 So I had to take high. 1377 00:54:42,533 --> 00:54:45,913 Advanced Placement High School Biology to get into 1378 00:54:45,913 --> 00:54:47,593 the biology pre rec class. 1379 00:54:47,913 --> 00:54:49,163 So, really, let's start from the beginning. 1380 00:54:49,833 --> 00:54:53,003 So, I did all those classes and, uh, then applied 1381 00:54:53,003 --> 00:54:55,583 to medic, only applied to two schools and was 1382 00:54:55,583 --> 00:54:56,673 accepted to both of them. 1383 00:54:57,753 --> 00:54:58,493 And then I went to, 1384 00:54:58,493 --> 00:55:01,573 started medical school when I was 54 and 1385 00:55:01,573 --> 00:55:02,973 graduated when I was 58. 1386 00:55:02,993 --> 00:55:04,613 And that, oh, that is a journey. 1387 00:55:05,143 --> 00:55:09,993 Um, and then as soon as I graduated, Um, I went to, 1388 00:55:10,283 --> 00:55:11,213 so it takes you two months. 1389 00:55:11,213 --> 00:55:12,013 You take the board. 1390 00:55:12,063 --> 00:55:14,843 You take, first you take the science, um, the science 1391 00:55:14,843 --> 00:55:18,243 boards two years after med school and pretty much 1392 00:55:18,243 --> 00:55:20,673 the same as the boards that the regular MDs take. 1393 00:55:20,943 --> 00:55:21,873 It's all about the science. 1394 00:55:21,873 --> 00:55:23,573 It's all about anatomy, biochemistry and 1395 00:55:23,573 --> 00:55:24,893 all that physiology. 1396 00:55:25,473 --> 00:55:27,903 And then when you graduate, you take the clinical boards 1397 00:55:27,943 --> 00:55:31,353 and it's three days of exams and you know, it's just. 1398 00:55:32,118 --> 00:55:35,058 Hours and hours of testing and reading cases. 1399 00:55:35,058 --> 00:55:36,178 And what are you going to do? 1400 00:55:36,458 --> 00:55:38,548 You can, you, you arrive at the scene and you still have 1401 00:55:38,548 --> 00:55:41,438 the four patients, you know, this is upon is doing that. 1402 00:55:41,448 --> 00:55:43,308 You have a child that's vomiting and you know, 1403 00:55:43,308 --> 00:55:43,738 blah, blah, blah. 1404 00:55:43,738 --> 00:55:44,458 It's dehydrated. 1405 00:55:44,468 --> 00:55:46,338 You got a woman that's screaming, she's going to 1406 00:55:46,338 --> 00:55:48,208 commit suicide and you got somebody else who's doing 1407 00:55:48,258 --> 00:55:50,538 something else and you have to then, you know, 1408 00:55:50,578 --> 00:55:53,298 and you can only read the question, look at the quest, 1409 00:55:53,328 --> 00:55:54,878 look at the answer, look at the multiple choice 1410 00:55:54,878 --> 00:55:56,458 answers, select the ones. 1411 00:55:56,468 --> 00:55:58,818 You basically only have time to read the question 1412 00:55:58,818 --> 00:56:00,488 once because there's too many questions. 1413 00:56:00,718 --> 00:56:01,348 You read it. 1414 00:56:01,418 --> 00:56:03,878 You answer, you read it, you answer, and it's hours of 1415 00:56:03,878 --> 00:56:07,318 testing and so that they can see that you're using your 1416 00:56:07,318 --> 00:56:10,148 knowledge and you're using your, your wisdom, right? 1417 00:56:10,148 --> 00:56:11,998 So you're going to give that child the IV because 1418 00:56:11,998 --> 00:56:17,068 that's the craziest, the most vulnerable, the young child, 1419 00:56:17,078 --> 00:56:19,708 the seven year old that's dehydrated and vomited and had 1420 00:56:19,708 --> 00:56:20,858 diarrhea in a car all night. 1421 00:56:21,278 --> 00:56:22,528 So you know that that child is going to go 1422 00:56:22,528 --> 00:56:23,478 into shock in a second. 1423 00:56:23,868 --> 00:56:25,268 So you're going to go with the child. 1424 00:56:25,298 --> 00:56:29,078 So they check to make sure you can triage a 1425 00:56:29,078 --> 00:56:33,393 situation and know which, which person needs So you 1426 00:56:33,393 --> 00:56:34,533 can save the most lives. 1427 00:56:35,073 --> 00:56:36,563 So you do exams for three days. 1428 00:56:37,353 --> 00:56:38,293 So I did all that. 1429 00:56:38,413 --> 00:56:40,963 And then it literally takes, so the exams were the 1430 00:56:40,973 --> 00:56:43,753 first week of August, and it's not the first week of 1431 00:56:43,753 --> 00:56:47,673 October that you find out if you passed, because all 1432 00:56:47,683 --> 00:56:50,713 the tests are given at the exact same time across all 1433 00:56:50,713 --> 00:56:53,493 of the United States so that there can be no cheating, 1434 00:56:53,803 --> 00:56:55,493 and then they have to 1435 00:56:56,008 --> 00:56:58,538 coordinate the, when they correct the test. 1436 00:56:58,548 --> 00:57:01,688 So, you know, all the, all different doctors that sit on 1437 00:57:01,688 --> 00:57:05,448 these boards and write these questions, but sometimes it 1438 00:57:05,448 --> 00:57:09,038 could be two answers that might be correct, right? 1439 00:57:09,038 --> 00:57:10,768 And so then they have to throw that question out 1440 00:57:10,768 --> 00:57:13,808 because they realize half of us answered A and the other 1441 00:57:13,808 --> 00:57:16,448 half answered B, but both of those answers are actually 1442 00:57:16,448 --> 00:57:18,328 correct, depending on how you look at that situation. 1443 00:57:18,848 --> 00:57:20,168 So then they have to throw those questions 1444 00:57:20,168 --> 00:57:21,828 out, but they have to do it for the whole country. 1445 00:57:21,998 --> 00:57:22,328 Right. 1446 00:57:22,378 --> 00:57:24,778 So it has to be graded exactly the same. 1447 00:57:25,148 --> 00:57:26,318 So that's why it takes so long. 1448 00:57:26,778 --> 00:57:29,328 So while I was waiting on getting my license, and 1449 00:57:29,328 --> 00:57:32,048 I didn't even know if I'd passed my boards yet, I 1450 00:57:32,048 --> 00:57:33,628 studied craniosacral therapy. 1451 00:57:34,388 --> 00:57:38,268 And I meet this woman and, and the class is in San Francisco, 1452 00:57:38,268 --> 00:57:39,398 but I'm living in Arizona. 1453 00:57:39,808 --> 00:57:42,388 And she says, we never got to work with each other, but we 1454 00:57:42,388 --> 00:57:43,768 knew we both lived in Arizona. 1455 00:57:44,408 --> 00:57:47,428 So I said, well, you know, I'm, I'm like two hours 1456 00:57:47,458 --> 00:57:50,458 outside, uh, Phoenix right now, uh, working in a 1457 00:57:50,458 --> 00:57:53,128 clinic, but I'm come down to Phoenix a lot for like 1458 00:57:53,138 --> 00:57:54,058 conferences and stuff. 1459 00:57:54,058 --> 00:57:56,308 So when I'm down there, uh, let's have dinner. 1460 00:57:56,878 --> 00:57:59,828 So we made up for dinner and it's September, so I'm 1461 00:57:59,828 --> 00:58:00,898 still waiting for my license. 1462 00:58:01,308 --> 00:58:05,788 And she says, you know, um, and she's like a 1463 00:58:05,788 --> 00:58:08,618 high position, like she's very well, super 1464 00:58:08,618 --> 00:58:09,608 educated, this woman. 1465 00:58:10,118 --> 00:58:14,568 And she says, amongst other things, I'm a medium and I 1466 00:58:14,568 --> 00:58:18,538 have somebody here who wants to like speak to you and are 1467 00:58:18,538 --> 00:58:19,898 you open to receive messages? 1468 00:58:20,708 --> 00:58:23,368 And she says, all right. 1469 00:58:23,828 --> 00:58:24,548 I said, okay. 1470 00:58:24,588 --> 00:58:26,508 And I'm thinking, oh, this will be good. 1471 00:58:26,968 --> 00:58:29,348 Like she's, there's no way she's going to be able to 1472 00:58:29,348 --> 00:58:30,468 know anything about me. 1473 00:58:30,718 --> 00:58:32,328 I grew up in Europe, like. 1474 00:58:32,683 --> 00:58:33,693 You know, it's so different. 1475 00:58:34,283 --> 00:58:38,188 Well, sure enough, she has my mom and All these 1476 00:58:38,198 --> 00:58:40,688 messages come through and she says, you have to go 1477 00:58:40,688 --> 00:58:41,948 to Arthur Finley College. 1478 00:58:42,328 --> 00:58:43,288 And I'm like, I can't go. 1479 00:58:43,308 --> 00:58:45,198 I don't, I don't even know my, I don't even 1480 00:58:45,198 --> 00:58:46,138 have my license yet. 1481 00:58:46,138 --> 00:58:46,918 I have to work. 1482 00:58:46,918 --> 00:58:47,998 I just graduated. 1483 00:58:47,998 --> 00:58:48,838 I need money. 1484 00:58:49,068 --> 00:58:49,378 Right. 1485 00:58:49,408 --> 00:58:51,718 I'm like living on nothing at this point. 1486 00:58:51,718 --> 00:58:54,968 I just came out of med school and she says, no, she 1487 00:58:54,968 --> 00:58:56,568 keeps saying you have to go to Arthur Finley College. 1488 00:58:56,578 --> 00:58:59,478 So after the third time I said. 1489 00:58:59,748 --> 00:59:00,498 Okay, fine. 1490 00:59:00,828 --> 00:59:01,638 I will go. 1491 00:59:01,698 --> 00:59:03,198 I will figure out a way. 1492 00:59:03,238 --> 00:59:04,328 I will get over there. 1493 00:59:04,448 --> 00:59:07,478 Well, six months later, I was at Arthur Findlay College in 1494 00:59:07,488 --> 00:59:09,028 England, studying mediumship. 1495 00:59:09,923 --> 00:59:10,283 Rod Bland: Wow. 1496 00:59:10,298 --> 00:59:11,368 Dr. Lotte Valentin: And I had a reading with 1497 00:59:11,458 --> 00:59:12,598 one of my teachers. 1498 00:59:12,668 --> 00:59:15,958 And my teacher says, Oh, you know, your mother is here. 1499 00:59:16,358 --> 00:59:18,828 And da da da da da, she knows everything about me. 1500 00:59:19,168 --> 00:59:20,978 And I know it's my mom because, you know, we're 1501 00:59:20,978 --> 00:59:23,268 talking about fishing and the rowboats. 1502 00:59:23,688 --> 00:59:25,428 So I knew it was my mom. 1503 00:59:25,838 --> 00:59:28,328 And She said, Oh, your mom tells me 1504 00:59:28,338 --> 00:59:29,468 you're writing a book. 1505 00:59:29,548 --> 00:59:32,468 And I had, all I had was literally an outline of 1506 00:59:32,468 --> 00:59:33,968 the chapters at that point. 1507 00:59:34,008 --> 00:59:36,138 I was kind of trying to figure out what to write about 1508 00:59:36,138 --> 00:59:38,768 and how to, you know, write the structure of the book. 1509 00:59:39,438 --> 00:59:42,088 And she said, Oh, your mom says that you're 1510 00:59:42,088 --> 00:59:43,348 to write two books. 1511 00:59:44,058 --> 00:59:45,198 No, wait, three. 1512 00:59:45,948 --> 00:59:48,918 And so that was the exact same message that I had gotten 1513 00:59:48,918 --> 00:59:49,998 in my living room, right? 1514 00:59:50,038 --> 00:59:53,018 Walk into the kitchen in 2004 and I have gotten 1515 00:59:53,018 --> 00:59:56,018 that message also from that friend that sent me to Arthur 1516 00:59:56,018 --> 00:59:58,518 Findlay College She also said your mom is telling 1517 00:59:58,518 --> 00:59:59,468 me you're writing a book. 1518 00:59:59,868 --> 01:00:01,038 Oh, no, wait, two. 1519 01:00:01,068 --> 01:00:02,088 No, no, wait three. 1520 01:00:02,088 --> 01:00:04,298 You're writing two books No, wait three that message 1521 01:00:04,298 --> 01:00:05,308 it keeps coming through. 1522 01:00:05,308 --> 01:00:08,323 So I've gotten that message Four times from four different 1523 01:00:08,333 --> 01:00:10,553 mediums that didn't know anything about me and it's 1524 01:00:10,573 --> 01:00:14,383 always the same message Yeah, yeah, you're to write a book. 1525 01:00:14,583 --> 01:00:16,723 No wait, you know, you're writing two books No, wait 1526 01:00:16,733 --> 01:00:19,703 three and it's always the same wording every single time. 1527 01:00:20,223 --> 01:00:21,843 So I'm like, okay, I've written one book 1528 01:00:21,883 --> 01:00:22,873 So I got two more. 1529 01:00:23,073 --> 01:00:27,348 So the next one Kind of, it's, it's brewing in my head. 1530 01:00:27,478 --> 01:00:30,258 And so I think that's going to probably start this year. 1531 01:00:30,698 --> 01:00:32,748 And I had a, I had a reading with one of my teachers, 1532 01:00:32,758 --> 01:00:35,218 Arthur Finley, somebody who doesn't know me. 1533 01:00:35,268 --> 01:00:37,068 I love having readings with people who don't know me. 1534 01:00:37,978 --> 01:00:40,018 And it was right before Christmas and she said, 1535 01:00:41,768 --> 01:00:42,578 you're writing a book. 1536 01:00:43,448 --> 01:00:44,928 And I said, well, not yet. 1537 01:00:44,928 --> 01:00:45,808 I haven't started yet. 1538 01:00:45,878 --> 01:00:46,828 And she goes, same thing. 1539 01:00:47,058 --> 01:00:47,678 It's in your head. 1540 01:00:48,758 --> 01:00:50,078 So it's brew. 1541 01:00:50,108 --> 01:00:51,858 So that second book is brewing, but it's going 1542 01:00:51,858 --> 01:00:54,638 to be very It's going to build on the first book. 1543 01:00:54,958 --> 01:00:57,658 The first book is, uh, is about my near 1544 01:00:57,658 --> 01:00:58,458 death experiences. 1545 01:00:58,458 --> 01:01:02,118 It's about, uh, the most embarrassing moment in my 1546 01:01:02,138 --> 01:01:03,448 life, which is really funny. 1547 01:01:04,098 --> 01:01:07,238 Um, and then the, being on the airplane that 1548 01:01:07,238 --> 01:01:08,308 fell out of the sky. 1549 01:01:08,628 --> 01:01:11,078 Um, it's one of those, you know, like a airplane 1550 01:01:11,088 --> 01:01:13,388 horror movie when everything flies through the cabin. 1551 01:01:13,428 --> 01:01:15,068 I was on one of those flights. 1552 01:01:15,458 --> 01:01:17,388 It was another moment when I thought I was going to die. 1553 01:01:17,948 --> 01:01:20,958 and then it has just a lot of things that I 1554 01:01:20,958 --> 01:01:22,388 learned, stories about. 1555 01:01:23,123 --> 01:01:26,623 how the spirituality came about, how shamanism came 1556 01:01:26,623 --> 01:01:30,803 about, you know, how do we tune into that other reality? 1557 01:01:30,803 --> 01:01:33,093 How do we become more intuitive ourselves? 1558 01:01:33,093 --> 01:01:36,513 So we can tune into all this, all this information that 1559 01:01:36,513 --> 01:01:39,153 is readily available for us, but we don't know how to 1560 01:01:39,153 --> 01:01:40,733 use that intuitive ability. 1561 01:01:41,103 --> 01:01:43,083 So that's what I do in the book. 1562 01:01:43,083 --> 01:01:45,643 I, I try to give a lot of examples of things and 1563 01:01:45,643 --> 01:01:46,823 how it happened for me. 1564 01:01:47,253 --> 01:01:47,793 And then. 1565 01:01:48,163 --> 01:01:51,013 Each chapter has a little lesson at the end, so to 1566 01:01:51,043 --> 01:01:53,593 easily incorporate into everybody's life and 1567 01:01:53,593 --> 01:01:54,403 say, Oh, I could do that. 1568 01:01:54,423 --> 01:01:54,953 That's easy. 1569 01:01:55,243 --> 01:01:55,693 Right. 1570 01:01:55,803 --> 01:01:59,203 And sort of take them on that journey so that they can 1571 01:01:59,203 --> 01:02:02,383 develop their own intuitive abilities and sort of tune 1572 01:02:02,383 --> 01:02:05,613 into the spirit world by just kind of going through 1573 01:02:05,613 --> 01:02:06,713 and how it happened for me. 1574 01:02:06,923 --> 01:02:08,653 So the second book will be more about. 1575 01:02:09,673 --> 01:02:13,813 will be a deeper level of spirituality and healing and, 1576 01:02:13,813 --> 01:02:16,813 uh, how we're all connected through time and space. 1577 01:02:18,013 --> 01:02:19,773 Rod Bland: And if people want to ask you questions, Dr. 1578 01:02:19,773 --> 01:02:21,823 Lottie, are you open to that and what's the best 1579 01:02:21,823 --> 01:02:22,713 way for them to do that? 1580 01:02:23,603 --> 01:02:25,293 So the best way to work with me 1581 01:02:25,313 --> 01:02:26,493 Dr. Lotte Valentin: is you go to drlotte. 1582 01:02:26,683 --> 01:02:29,443 com, d r l o t t e. 1583 01:02:29,773 --> 01:02:30,853 com, drlotte. 1584 01:02:30,853 --> 01:02:31,153 com. 1585 01:02:31,773 --> 01:02:34,343 And so I offer a lot of different sessions. 1586 01:02:34,473 --> 01:02:36,813 I work as a medical medium or medical intuitive. 1587 01:02:37,163 --> 01:02:39,473 I mean, I use my intuitive abilities, but I work with 1588 01:02:39,483 --> 01:02:40,893 the spirit world all the time. 1589 01:02:41,443 --> 01:02:44,423 Uh, it's not something that I can shut off at this point. 1590 01:02:44,443 --> 01:02:45,943 You know, I work with somebody, the 1591 01:02:45,943 --> 01:02:46,863 spirit world is there. 1592 01:02:47,223 --> 01:02:48,733 And so they work with me. 1593 01:02:49,433 --> 01:02:51,723 Uh, so I work as a medical medium or medical intuitive, 1594 01:02:51,723 --> 01:02:56,433 whatever you want to call it, and, uh, I work as a 1595 01:02:56,453 --> 01:03:00,443 remote, like remote health consultations to help people 1596 01:03:00,833 --> 01:03:03,463 because I get a lot of people that they've been to the 1597 01:03:03,463 --> 01:03:05,413 doctor They've been around the block and they tell them 1598 01:03:05,413 --> 01:03:07,823 there's nothing wrong with you And then they finally 1599 01:03:07,913 --> 01:03:10,733 land on my screen and I'll say no, I know what you have. 1600 01:03:11,043 --> 01:03:13,393 This is your problem This is how you're gonna fix it. 1601 01:03:13,493 --> 01:03:15,613 So it's kind of fascinating because I feel like the 1602 01:03:15,613 --> 01:03:18,843 spirit world sort of guides people Like go over here. 1603 01:03:18,843 --> 01:03:22,683 She'll know how to help you and then I do Uh, a 1604 01:03:22,683 --> 01:03:25,033 fun session, a really fun session that's called messages 1605 01:03:25,033 --> 01:03:26,163 from your spirit guides. 1606 01:03:26,843 --> 01:03:30,553 So I could, I have not been able to draw my whole life. 1607 01:03:30,613 --> 01:03:33,033 And so I'm at Arthur Finley College and they 1608 01:03:33,033 --> 01:03:34,743 say, Oh, you know, you should take an art class. 1609 01:03:34,763 --> 01:03:35,443 You can draw. 1610 01:03:35,453 --> 01:03:37,353 And I'm like, no, you don't understand. 1611 01:03:37,363 --> 01:03:38,093 I can't draw. 1612 01:03:38,123 --> 01:03:39,703 I've always wanted to know how to draw. 1613 01:03:39,733 --> 01:03:42,143 I draw stick figures like I cannot draw. 1614 01:03:42,173 --> 01:03:45,003 I can't draw a dog or a bunny or a face. 1615 01:03:45,193 --> 01:03:46,343 I don't know how to draw. 1616 01:03:46,853 --> 01:03:48,483 And they're just, no, you know how to draw. 1617 01:03:49,393 --> 01:03:49,833 I don't know. 1618 01:03:50,483 --> 01:03:53,653 So during the pandemic, Arthur Finley College has 1619 01:03:54,203 --> 01:03:56,933 an, a drawing class, like how to draw faces throughout 1620 01:03:56,933 --> 01:03:58,723 the spirit world online. 1621 01:03:59,423 --> 01:04:02,153 So I take this class during the pandemic, so she draws 1622 01:04:02,153 --> 01:04:04,753 one face and we're trying to follow along and she's 1623 01:04:04,753 --> 01:04:05,523 like, all right, that's it. 1624 01:04:05,533 --> 01:04:06,693 Now I'm going to put you like. 1625 01:04:06,973 --> 01:04:11,083 Work with somebody else and you're gonna draw one face. 1626 01:04:11,083 --> 01:04:12,373 Now I'm supposed to draw a face. 1627 01:04:12,373 --> 01:04:14,683 Well of course you draw a face like five in five minutes. 1628 01:04:14,683 --> 01:04:15,983 You've sketched out this face. 1629 01:04:16,003 --> 01:04:17,053 You see what it looks like. 1630 01:04:17,713 --> 01:04:18,163 It is. 1631 01:04:18,163 --> 01:04:18,793 It is just amazing. 1632 01:04:18,793 --> 01:04:20,533 But that's the spirit world that's kind 1633 01:04:20,533 --> 01:04:21,223 of working with you. 1634 01:04:21,223 --> 01:04:23,863 Once you open your channels, you have all so much more 1635 01:04:23,868 --> 01:04:24,853 information available. 1636 01:04:25,413 --> 01:04:26,553 Uh, then you think you do. 1637 01:04:26,913 --> 01:04:29,013 So I do this thing called messages from 1638 01:04:29,013 --> 01:04:30,393 your Spirit guides and. 1639 01:04:30,988 --> 01:04:34,218 So I see this, I see the spirit guide, uh, and so 1640 01:04:34,218 --> 01:04:36,898 I sketch it and it usually takes five or six minutes to 1641 01:04:36,898 --> 01:04:38,138 get a sketch of that spirit. 1642 01:04:38,733 --> 01:04:39,773 Guide on paper. 1643 01:04:40,163 --> 01:04:43,963 And once I see the spirit guide, I know a lot about 1644 01:04:43,973 --> 01:04:47,403 the client on the screen because you're like a 1645 01:04:47,403 --> 01:04:49,743 mirror image or a reflection of your spirit guide. 1646 01:04:50,163 --> 01:04:52,943 So whatever the spirit guide tells me, okay, you have 1647 01:04:52,943 --> 01:04:54,053 this kind of a spirit guide. 1648 01:04:54,103 --> 01:04:58,703 I know you have, um, uh, you know, let's say, well, the 1649 01:04:58,703 --> 01:05:02,623 funniest one I think is, I had a warrior once, I asked 1650 01:05:02,623 --> 01:05:03,983 them, it's three times I said. 1651 01:05:04,633 --> 01:05:05,393 A warrior? 1652 01:05:05,393 --> 01:05:07,253 You're a spirit guide and you're a warrior. 1653 01:05:07,523 --> 01:05:08,683 Am I hearing you correctly? 1654 01:05:08,683 --> 01:05:09,813 Yes, I'm a warrior. 1655 01:05:09,813 --> 01:05:10,643 I'm like, okay. 1656 01:05:10,903 --> 01:05:13,423 And I'm looking at the screen and I have this petite 1657 01:05:13,463 --> 01:05:16,083 looking man and I'm thinking he's probably an accountant. 1658 01:05:16,713 --> 01:05:18,183 He's got a warrior spirit guide. 1659 01:05:18,183 --> 01:05:18,703 What is this? 1660 01:05:19,323 --> 01:05:23,538 So I tell him, okay, well, you're The spirit 1661 01:05:23,538 --> 01:05:26,138 guide says, you know, he fights for justice. 1662 01:05:26,178 --> 01:05:30,158 He fights for, you know, protecting people and he's 1663 01:05:30,188 --> 01:05:32,698 like, he's a warrior, but he's a good intentions because 1664 01:05:32,698 --> 01:05:34,098 he's doing the right thing. 1665 01:05:34,538 --> 01:05:36,698 Uh, he can live in the woods for a week with 1666 01:05:36,698 --> 01:05:39,888 just a knife and he is a survival, blah, blah, blah. 1667 01:05:40,298 --> 01:05:41,498 And he starts laughing. 1668 01:05:41,708 --> 01:05:42,238 And the guy says, 1669 01:05:42,288 --> 01:05:47,828 I'm a retired police officer and I still work like for 1670 01:05:47,828 --> 01:05:49,718 justice and corruption and things like that. 1671 01:05:49,728 --> 01:05:50,558 So it was really funny. 1672 01:05:50,808 --> 01:05:51,938 I think that's the funniest one. 1673 01:05:52,358 --> 01:05:55,588 Uh, you know, somebody has a monk, for example, I know if I 1674 01:05:55,588 --> 01:05:58,908 see a monk, I know this person is on a spiritual journey, 1675 01:05:59,308 --> 01:06:02,588 so I already know, okay, so you are very spiritual. 1676 01:06:02,588 --> 01:06:03,778 You meditate all the time. 1677 01:06:03,788 --> 01:06:05,098 You're trying to connect with the spirit world. 1678 01:06:05,098 --> 01:06:06,558 Like it just comes because. 1679 01:06:06,823 --> 01:06:10,003 If I see a monk, I know that that's a reflection of them. 1680 01:06:10,303 --> 01:06:12,113 So it could be anything, right? 1681 01:06:12,113 --> 01:06:15,663 It was whatever comes in that spirit guide. 1682 01:06:15,983 --> 01:06:18,383 That is, you have a lot of spirit guides that come and 1683 01:06:18,383 --> 01:06:20,543 go all the time, but you also have a main spirit guide 1684 01:06:20,543 --> 01:06:21,453 that's with you all the time. 1685 01:06:21,843 --> 01:06:23,913 And that main spirit guide is the one that comes 1686 01:06:23,913 --> 01:06:24,983 in during that session. 1687 01:06:25,343 --> 01:06:28,063 And it's always a reflection, the deeper reflection 1688 01:06:28,113 --> 01:06:31,613 of what that person is here to do, right? 1689 01:06:31,643 --> 01:06:33,783 So, um, they show me things. 1690 01:06:34,183 --> 01:06:36,553 Sometimes people come to a crossroad and they, they 1691 01:06:36,553 --> 01:06:39,663 don't know what, you know, I'm tired of what I'm 1692 01:06:39,663 --> 01:06:41,833 doing, but I don't know what I'm supposed to be doing. 1693 01:06:41,833 --> 01:06:43,223 Am I even doing the right thing? 1694 01:06:43,623 --> 01:06:46,263 And then the spirit guide might show me, you know, 1695 01:06:46,283 --> 01:06:48,263 like, Oh, I see you, you're teaching people, you're 1696 01:06:48,263 --> 01:06:50,533 guiding people, or you're counseling people, or you're 1697 01:06:50,533 --> 01:06:53,303 healing people, or, you know, whatever comes through. 1698 01:06:53,633 --> 01:06:55,963 And then sure enough, that's exactly who they are. 1699 01:06:55,963 --> 01:06:57,443 And that's exactly what they're drawn to. 1700 01:06:57,693 --> 01:06:58,833 And so it sort of helps 1701 01:06:59,458 --> 01:07:03,068 people get on the right track of what they incarnated to do. 1702 01:07:03,608 --> 01:07:06,568 It's absolutely fascinating because, you know, it's just, 1703 01:07:06,608 --> 01:07:07,678 it's their spirit guide. 1704 01:07:08,008 --> 01:07:09,938 But then we have spirit guides that come and go, 1705 01:07:09,968 --> 01:07:12,028 you know, if you're fixing your car, let's say you've 1706 01:07:12,028 --> 01:07:14,838 never fixed a car before, you might have a spirit guide or 1707 01:07:14,838 --> 01:07:17,228 a relative that was really good at fixing cars and they 1708 01:07:17,228 --> 01:07:19,728 come in and sort of gives you these little nudges and 1709 01:07:19,728 --> 01:07:22,558 you feel really smart because you're saying, now I know, 1710 01:07:22,558 --> 01:07:26,168 I remember, I should do this or I should try that, right? 1711 01:07:26,248 --> 01:07:28,743 But many times it's It comes from somewhere else. 1712 01:07:28,743 --> 01:07:32,463 And when I wrote my book, I knew somebody was helping me. 1713 01:07:32,883 --> 01:07:35,133 And cause English is my second language. 1714 01:07:35,143 --> 01:07:36,373 And sometimes that would be, how do you 1715 01:07:36,373 --> 01:07:37,243 say this in English? 1716 01:07:37,733 --> 01:07:38,193 And. 1717 01:07:38,603 --> 01:07:40,643 Somebody was like downloading information. 1718 01:07:40,643 --> 01:07:41,853 I didn't know who it was. 1719 01:07:42,293 --> 01:07:45,143 And it was before, um, I had only been to Arthur 1720 01:07:45,143 --> 01:07:46,133 Finde College once. 1721 01:07:46,153 --> 01:07:50,573 So that whole mediumship was opening up and understanding 1722 01:07:50,583 --> 01:07:51,853 who I was communicating with. 1723 01:07:52,363 --> 01:07:54,673 And so I get to the Arthur Finde College and this, 1724 01:07:54,733 --> 01:07:57,453 the teacher is reading me and she says, Oh, you 1725 01:07:57,453 --> 01:07:59,203 know, the spirit world says you're writing a book. 1726 01:07:59,393 --> 01:08:00,103 And I said, yeah. 1727 01:08:00,823 --> 01:08:02,313 And she says, somebody is helping you with that 1728 01:08:02,313 --> 01:08:03,173 book in the spirit world. 1729 01:08:03,333 --> 01:08:04,033 And I said, yes. 1730 01:08:04,393 --> 01:08:05,143 I don't know who it is. 1731 01:08:05,303 --> 01:08:08,183 And she said, well, the person that's helping you is. 1732 01:08:08,788 --> 01:08:12,818 Somebody, he says, is a man, he says he passed away too 1733 01:08:12,818 --> 01:08:17,048 young and he studied English in college but he never 1734 01:08:17,048 --> 01:08:19,398 worked with English and I said, I know who it is, it's 1735 01:08:19,398 --> 01:08:21,648 my brother in law, he passed away in a car accident. 1736 01:08:22,198 --> 01:08:25,238 And so I told his, you know, his kid, my nieces, 1737 01:08:25,238 --> 01:08:27,728 I said, hey, guess who helped me write my book, 1738 01:08:27,898 --> 01:08:30,868 your dad, in the spirit world, and he is the one. 1739 01:08:31,398 --> 01:08:34,098 Because he knew English so well and he, you 1740 01:08:34,098 --> 01:08:34,958 know, and it was close. 1741 01:08:34,968 --> 01:08:35,858 He was family members. 1742 01:08:35,858 --> 01:08:38,648 It was easy maybe for him to connect, uh, and 1743 01:08:38,658 --> 01:08:40,058 downloaded that information. 1744 01:08:40,418 --> 01:08:42,598 So I would say, Oh, that's how you express it. 1745 01:08:42,608 --> 01:08:45,138 And I was like, he would give me the words 1746 01:08:45,198 --> 01:08:46,588 like, no, use this word. 1747 01:08:46,988 --> 01:08:48,028 That's how you express it. 1748 01:08:48,308 --> 01:08:49,348 So it's really fascinating. 1749 01:08:49,358 --> 01:08:51,578 We get help like this all the time, but we think. 1750 01:08:52,238 --> 01:08:54,418 Oh, you know, that's just coming from somewhere, 1751 01:08:54,758 --> 01:08:57,268 but maybe it's your spirit guide, or maybe it's a 1752 01:08:57,268 --> 01:08:59,658 relative of yours that is actually helping you. 1753 01:09:00,188 --> 01:09:01,828 But we don't, we don't see that because we 1754 01:09:01,828 --> 01:09:02,708 don't believe in it. 1755 01:09:02,728 --> 01:09:03,788 Like I didn't believe in it. 1756 01:09:03,908 --> 01:09:06,438 And so we, we sort of tune out and we think it's just 1757 01:09:06,438 --> 01:09:09,588 us, but they're very actively helping us all the time. 1758 01:09:10,728 --> 01:09:12,038 Rod Bland: Do you have a final message that you'd 1759 01:09:12,038 --> 01:09:13,668 like to leave people with before we wrap up 1760 01:09:13,858 --> 01:09:14,898 our conversation today? 1761 01:09:15,873 --> 01:09:18,273 Dr. Lotte Valentin: Yes, I would say, you know, 1762 01:09:18,273 --> 01:09:19,233 we're all connected. 1763 01:09:20,003 --> 01:09:22,293 We're all one, we're one human race. 1764 01:09:22,543 --> 01:09:25,043 We're all in the same boat, riding this boat together. 1765 01:09:26,723 --> 01:09:31,313 Everything is divine and so is every listener on this show. 1766 01:09:31,443 --> 01:09:35,253 We are a part of that divine grid and a divine 1767 01:09:35,263 --> 01:09:36,313 experience that we have. 1768 01:09:37,458 --> 01:09:38,098 Rod Bland: Thank you for that. 1769 01:09:38,158 --> 01:09:40,478 It's been my absolute privilege and pleasure 1770 01:09:40,508 --> 01:09:41,658 to have you today. 1771 01:09:41,688 --> 01:09:42,918 Thanks very much for coming on the show. 1772 01:09:43,743 --> 01:09:44,473 Dr. Lotte Valentin: Well, thank you so 1773 01:09:44,473 --> 01:09:45,093 much for having me. 1774 01:09:45,093 --> 01:09:45,763 It was a pleasure.