Matt and Kyle take a deep dive into Kentucky folk artist Carl McKenzie (1905-1998), examining his colorful cut-wood sculptures that inspired a generation of collectors. From the Daniel Boone Trading Post to Larry Hackley's legendary collection, they explore how McKenzie's simple two-by-four constructions with movable arms captured the essence of Kentucky mountain life.
The episode takes a personal turn when Matt reveals his secret identity as the "Gibsonville Highway 61 Miniature Chair Maker," showcasing 24 Willie Massey-inspired chairs he created over three months before mysteriously losing the creative drive. The conversation explores the psychological challenges of folk art creation, from Charles Archer's inability to carve stone anymore to Matt's fear of trying to recreate his own work.
They compare McKenzie's $150-300 pieces to Edgar Tolson's $17,000 carvings, discuss the difference between cut wood and carved wood, and examine why collectors need multiple pieces to build a case for an artist's legitimacy. Plus: Benny Carter banjo poetry about the House of Blues, football hit sticks as contemporary folk art, and a heated basket controversy that's got one collector sending angry midnight texts.
What you'll learn:
Carl McKenzie's evolution from retirement to prolific Kentucky folk artist
Why cut-wood sculptures require different appreciation than carved pieces
The psychological "bite" that drives folk artists and when it disappears
How to distinguish 1940s paint from contemporary work
The House of Blues connection to folk art and Dan Aykroyd's vision
Why Edgar Tolson commands $17,000+ while McKenzie stays under $500
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Chapters:
00:00 | Carl McKenzie introduction and House of Folk Art t-shirts
02:25 | Kentucky Folk Art – Carl McKenzie's colorful cut-wood sculptures
04:39 | Cut vs Carved – understanding the difference in folk art construction
07:15 | Larry Hackley's Collection – seeing 80 McKenzie pieces together
09:24 | Artist Inspiration Sources – imagining McKenzie's creative process
14:22 | Discovery Stories – 1970s art dealers finding porch carvers
16:18 | Collection Building – why you need multiple pieces for legitimacy
19:01 | Edgar Tolson Comparison – $17,000 museum-quality vs $300 attainable
25:17 | The Creative Bite – how folk art inspiration strikes and disappears
31:09 | Living Artists Today – shake the right tree and find 20 artists
34:12 | Fearrington Folk Art Show– the next generation of self-taught artists
37:56 | Willie Massey Influence – miniature chairs and thick paint globs
41:51 | The Gibsonville Chair Maker Revealed – Matt's secret folk art identity
46:35 | Creative Struggles – why Matt stopped making chairs for 3 years
53:28 | Anonymous $30,000 Cane – high-relief carving and folk art pricing
56:58 | Football Hit Sticks – contemporary folk art meets youth sports
1:00:06 | Benny Carter Banjo Poetry – House of Blues tributes and misspellings
1:06:42 | House of Blues Tour – Dan Aykroyd's folk art restaurant empire
1:08:20 | Struggling Artist Reality – Benny's "last beer" dealer meeting
The next Carl McKenzie is out there right now, selling $15 pieces and waiting to be discovered.