WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.800 --> 00:00:04.879 You're listening to The Bible Guys, a podcast where a couple of friends talk 2 00:00:04.919 --> 00:00:12.400 about the Bible in fun in practical ways. Hey, welcome to the Bible 3 00:00:12.400 --> 00:00:15.480 Guys. My name is Chris and I'm Jeff. And here we are at 4 00:00:15.480 --> 00:00:20.199 a different location. That's right. So our regular studio wasn't available today, 5 00:00:20.320 --> 00:00:23.519 yes, and so we're sitting on the stage at Heritage Church, yes, 6 00:00:23.600 --> 00:00:26.719 and making it happen. And by the way, for those of you who 7 00:00:26.719 --> 00:00:31.120 are listening, which actually are most of our listeners, most of our listeners 8 00:00:31.160 --> 00:00:33.920 are listening, Yeah, yeah, instead of watching, because I guess they 9 00:00:34.000 --> 00:00:36.920 watch and listen, so they could be all listeners. Okay, yeah, 10 00:00:36.960 --> 00:00:41.280 sure, but only summer watchers. That's right. So what is the ratio, 11 00:00:41.359 --> 00:00:44.719 by the way, Almost fifty to fifty, is it? Yeah? 12 00:00:44.759 --> 00:00:47.439 Well, hey, we're on the stage at Heritage Church. For those of 13 00:00:47.479 --> 00:00:51.759 you who are watching and don't attend Heritage Now, we're filming this just a 14 00:00:51.840 --> 00:00:56.320 few days actually, after our Easter weekend services. That's right. So on 15 00:00:56.359 --> 00:01:00.640 the stage we had fourteen services. We had another five services at the other 16 00:01:00.679 --> 00:01:04.400 location. It's pretty intense. Yeah, it was amazing. I was pretty 17 00:01:04.400 --> 00:01:08.120 wiped out afterwards. Yeah, I would say so, but you know, 18 00:01:08.159 --> 00:01:12.359 you and I split the services. But like Trey saying all fourteenth, yeah, 19 00:01:12.439 --> 00:01:15.359 yeah, it was pretty crazy. And Rachel, well, if you 20 00:01:15.439 --> 00:01:17.599 got a good horse, ride it right, you know what I mean. 21 00:01:17.719 --> 00:01:19.120 So I can't believe his voice held up. He did a great job. 22 00:01:19.200 --> 00:01:22.560 Yeah, they did a great job. And by the way, just in 23 00:01:22.599 --> 00:01:25.959 case you're wondering, we had about eighty five hundred people show up in person 24 00:01:26.359 --> 00:01:30.959 about three thousand online for eleven five hundred dish give or take a few, 25 00:01:30.040 --> 00:01:34.120 which is pretty humbling and pretty incredible. Yeah, it was fantastic, just 26 00:01:34.120 --> 00:01:36.879 a fantastic weekend all the way around. So it's always fun when you get 27 00:01:36.879 --> 00:01:40.319 the whole family together and celebrate the resurrection. And yes, it was very 28 00:01:40.359 --> 00:01:42.920 powerful. We had a lot of people make first time professions of faith and 29 00:01:44.159 --> 00:01:47.599 it was just really incredible. So I agree. Well, hey, we 30 00:01:47.719 --> 00:01:53.799 are talking about the Eastern time slot or events. There's a really great question 31 00:01:53.840 --> 00:02:00.599 that came in online and so we have a segment called Stumped the pastor so 32 00:02:00.799 --> 00:02:02.400 this one is to stump you today. I think, yeah, do we 33 00:02:02.439 --> 00:02:07.759 need a jingle for that Stump the pastor how about like a sound effect there? 34 00:02:07.919 --> 00:02:13.319 Yes, something yeah, Okay, how about if I read it? 35 00:02:13.360 --> 00:02:15.919 Okay, you go ahead, So Cecilia, g thank you, Cecilia. 36 00:02:15.960 --> 00:02:20.520 It writes in this my question is about Judas is scariot since the betrayal was 37 00:02:20.560 --> 00:02:23.759 preordained in the Old Testament. Did Judas ever stand a chance of being saved? 38 00:02:24.120 --> 00:02:28.199 Did Jesus choose him knowing that his heart would ever be pure? Would 39 00:02:28.240 --> 00:02:32.120 never be pure? Or were all the disciples quote unquote available to fulfill the 40 00:02:32.159 --> 00:02:38.039 prophecy and Judas just happened to be the one whose heart never really really developed 41 00:02:38.120 --> 00:02:42.439 faith in Jesus. I saw Jesus Christ Superstar on Broadway, and I watched 42 00:02:42.439 --> 00:02:45.400 the movie The Passion every year at Easter, and I can't help to feel 43 00:02:45.439 --> 00:02:50.039 a little sorry for Judas. Can you guys speak into this, says Cecilia. 44 00:02:50.199 --> 00:02:53.439 Well, there you go. It's a great thinking question question. So 45 00:02:53.520 --> 00:02:57.719 really it's a question about predestination. That's correct. Yeah, because because what 46 00:02:57.759 --> 00:03:00.479 you're really asking, Cecilia, is you're asking it's sort of the chicken or 47 00:03:00.520 --> 00:03:04.719 the egg kind of a thing, which is, you know, did God 48 00:03:04.840 --> 00:03:12.919 predict knowing Judas's choices or did or was Judas just had no other choice but 49 00:03:12.960 --> 00:03:16.639 to fulfill God's prediction? Yes, So did God choose Judas because God knew 50 00:03:16.719 --> 00:03:23.000 Judas would betray Jesus? Or was Judas made so that he would betray Jesus? 51 00:03:23.159 --> 00:03:27.120 Yeah, which, by the way, if you want to take that 52 00:03:27.159 --> 00:03:31.639 one, you know preordained prophecy in the Old Testament about somebody, you know, 53 00:03:31.759 --> 00:03:36.319 betraying him for thirty pieces of silver. Then the other questions are, 54 00:03:36.400 --> 00:03:38.680 you know, did the Roman soldiers have no choice but to crucify Jesus? 55 00:03:38.759 --> 00:03:44.680 Did you know, did Caiaphas have no free will but to condemn Jesus or 56 00:03:44.759 --> 00:03:47.439 Pilots or you know all of these guys, Or did God just know what 57 00:03:47.479 --> 00:03:51.960 was going to happen in advance? It really opens up the can of worms 58 00:03:52.000 --> 00:03:57.199 to not only all the events around surrounding Easter and his death, Baryl and 59 00:03:57.280 --> 00:04:01.240 resurrection, but it also opens it up to today in twenty twenty four. 60 00:04:01.319 --> 00:04:06.520 And so what's your answer, Well, you know, it's it's a funny 61 00:04:06.560 --> 00:04:12.639 thing. Here's actually my official answer. My official answer is I believe yes 62 00:04:12.719 --> 00:04:18.600 and no. I believe that just because I believe that God gives us free 63 00:04:18.720 --> 00:04:23.920 choice, I believe you and I have absolute free choice. And I believe 64 00:04:23.920 --> 00:04:30.199 that God absolutely knows that we are going to choose. So I know a 65 00:04:30.199 --> 00:04:34.040 lot of different people who've talked a lot about this free destination, Calvinism, 66 00:04:34.160 --> 00:04:39.040 right, or the Reformed Christianity. You know, there's a lot of debate 67 00:04:39.079 --> 00:04:43.519 about that. And you know, if we have absolute free will, then 68 00:04:43.519 --> 00:04:46.839 that means God knows all of our choices and he doesn't necessarily know what we're 69 00:04:46.879 --> 00:04:50.319 going to choose. Or maybe God knows all of our choices, but he 70 00:04:50.399 --> 00:04:54.279 knows which choice we're going to make. I believe that's the case. I 71 00:04:54.279 --> 00:04:57.680 believe that He knows all of our choices that we could make, but he 72 00:04:57.720 --> 00:05:00.360 also knows the choice that we will make. I believe we have free will. 73 00:05:00.519 --> 00:05:06.600 I believe Judas had free will just like everybody else. But God absolutely 74 00:05:06.680 --> 00:05:11.439 knew that it was going to be Judas. That's what I believe. Yeah. 75 00:05:12.079 --> 00:05:15.399 So, and then you're also very comfortable in saying we don't know, 76 00:05:16.079 --> 00:05:21.319 yeah very much, right, because the mystery of God is so I have 77 00:05:21.439 --> 00:05:26.519 on my phone all of the verses about predestination. Okay, So I pulled 78 00:05:26.600 --> 00:05:30.279 him up and I said, Okay, what are all the verses on predestination? 79 00:05:30.879 --> 00:05:40.480 And there are Ephesians one, Romans eight, Acts thirteen, Romans nine, 80 00:05:40.720 --> 00:05:45.839 and then a few Old Testament obscurities, and then one Peter one sort 81 00:05:45.879 --> 00:05:50.199 of does. And then there's a couple predictions and prophecies. Oh, you 82 00:05:50.240 --> 00:05:53.600 know, the son of Man is going to be betrayed, that kind of 83 00:05:53.639 --> 00:05:59.560 thing. So in every case, so you only have maybe you know less 84 00:05:59.600 --> 00:06:02.040 than a does, and scriptures about it. And in every case the only 85 00:06:03.040 --> 00:06:08.800 quite honestly this I don't want to insult anybody or step on anybody's toes, 86 00:06:09.879 --> 00:06:15.680 but the only thing it says in any of these verses is that God knows 87 00:06:15.360 --> 00:06:20.319 right like like like he is chosen, uses phrases like forull ordained yep or 88 00:06:20.360 --> 00:06:27.600 predestined or chose yep, and and uh and and so again. In my 89 00:06:27.680 --> 00:06:30.600 mind, I believe it's both. I believe that God knows because so for 90 00:06:30.639 --> 00:06:34.160 every verse, and you know, I love doing this. I make my 91 00:06:34.240 --> 00:06:38.879 Calvinist friends upset. I make my Armenian friends upset, you know, because 92 00:06:38.879 --> 00:06:41.680 I never will land on one side or the other. I'm content to live 93 00:06:41.720 --> 00:06:46.959 in the tension between these two things too. But for every verse, where 94 00:06:46.000 --> 00:06:50.480 you can you know, identify predestination, you can also find whosoever will may 95 00:06:50.480 --> 00:06:56.720 come kind of idea right where God talks about free will and more verses. 96 00:06:56.839 --> 00:07:01.480 So it's pretty close to equal. But the here's my response to this. 97 00:07:01.560 --> 00:07:04.279 So this is really really a great question, and we've him hard around this 98 00:07:04.319 --> 00:07:11.319 for a little bit. So here's the thing. God is not inside time. 99 00:07:12.680 --> 00:07:16.639 So when you use a phrase like predestined, what you're talking about is 100 00:07:16.639 --> 00:07:21.279 is minutes and days, you know, minutes and hours and days and years. 101 00:07:21.680 --> 00:07:27.199 That's that's it's it's predestined in time. But because I believe God's not 102 00:07:27.319 --> 00:07:31.680 in time, time is inconsequential to him. It's all now right, And 103 00:07:31.759 --> 00:07:38.639 so in that context, then he could he could look into Judas's life and 104 00:07:38.759 --> 00:07:44.120 know that's the decision Judas made. Thus Judas was there, and so yeah, 105 00:07:44.120 --> 00:07:46.279 it is kind of a chicken and egg kind of a thing which came 106 00:07:46.360 --> 00:07:53.279 first. I don't know that any sinner deserves any more compassion than any other. 107 00:07:53.639 --> 00:07:56.800 None of us deserve compassion, but God gives grace anyways. And what 108 00:07:56.839 --> 00:08:01.120 we do know is that Judas did not repent, So so Judas being is 109 00:08:01.160 --> 00:08:07.360 so the prophecy in the Old Testament was not that Jesus would be betrayed for 110 00:08:07.399 --> 00:08:11.360 thirty pieces of silver, and that the betrayer must go to hell. Right, 111 00:08:13.480 --> 00:08:18.839 so Judas all sin is forgivable. Right, But the Bible does say 112 00:08:18.839 --> 00:08:20.399 that, you know, Judas went to his own place and kind of implies 113 00:08:22.199 --> 00:08:26.519 the eternal destruction that he didn't repent, and that's the issue. So repentance 114 00:08:26.720 --> 00:08:30.160 was one of those things that is always available, whether he was Jesus did 115 00:08:30.160 --> 00:08:33.120 say the ordained that he would give, you know, give Jesus up, 116 00:08:33.399 --> 00:08:37.840 well, Jesus. Jesus did say it's better for that man who's going to 117 00:08:37.840 --> 00:08:41.000 betray me, better for him not to be born, and he also said 118 00:08:41.039 --> 00:08:46.559 headed for destruction. Yeah, so before Jesus even betrayed him. But again 119 00:08:46.559 --> 00:08:48.559 that's what I'm saying is there's no time, so the decision was already known 120 00:08:48.720 --> 00:08:52.639 before it happened, right, Yeah, I believe that as well. You 121 00:08:52.639 --> 00:08:58.159 know, the Bible indicates in so many places that a day is like a 122 00:08:58.240 --> 00:09:01.360 thousand years, which is like wow, and but then the opposite of that 123 00:09:01.480 --> 00:09:05.159 is in a thousand years is like a day, and so it's like what, 124 00:09:05.519 --> 00:09:09.279 how does that even make any sense? So so yeah, I believe 125 00:09:09.360 --> 00:09:15.360 that as well. In fact, uh, somebody I read something online the 126 00:09:15.440 --> 00:09:20.360 other day. I shouldn't even bring it up, but remember the transfiguration right 127 00:09:20.600 --> 00:09:22.600 where Jesus, you know, his face shone like the sun, and then 128 00:09:24.399 --> 00:09:26.279 Peter, James and John were up there, and then they saw Moses and 129 00:09:26.279 --> 00:09:31.639 Elijah. Somebody proposed I read this thing where it said I wonder if, 130 00:09:31.720 --> 00:09:37.279 because God doesn't exist outside of time, I wonder if Moses and Elijah. 131 00:09:37.799 --> 00:09:41.080 Oh excuse me, that's what I meant, but because men don't, I 132 00:09:41.120 --> 00:09:46.600 wonder if in that moment, Elijah and Moses were called to that moment in 133 00:09:46.759 --> 00:09:50.919 their lifetime, which which could mean that they had this experience. That's another 134 00:09:52.120 --> 00:09:56.440 that'll be another stump. But you know, it's kind of it's kind of 135 00:09:56.440 --> 00:09:58.200 like those kind of thoughts, right well, when you start talking about time, 136 00:09:58.639 --> 00:10:03.200 it's a confusing thing, right even for the best scientists. Science Stein 137 00:10:03.200 --> 00:10:07.080 and a bunch of others struggled with that, and it's it's really fascinating stuff 138 00:10:07.120 --> 00:10:11.720 makes for interesting movies, yeah, But ultimately, you know, what it 139 00:10:11.720 --> 00:10:15.879 comes down to is God knows and at the same time, people are free, 140 00:10:16.440 --> 00:10:18.799 and there's a tension between those two issues. And so when I say 141 00:10:18.799 --> 00:10:22.720 it, you know, Judas doesn't deserve any more compassion than anybody else. 142 00:10:22.440 --> 00:10:26.840 We all can have compassion one towards another fact that we're sinners, but at 143 00:10:26.879 --> 00:10:30.120 the same time we all made our choices, and so there's there's a struggle 144 00:10:30.120 --> 00:10:33.039 there. Yeah. So anyways, great questions to see you. Yes, 145 00:10:33.519 --> 00:10:37.840 man alive, good thinking, And ultimately that was a ten minute answer to 146 00:10:37.879 --> 00:10:43.519 say, we're not sure that's exactly correct, that's exactly correct, but at 147 00:10:43.519 --> 00:10:46.519 the same time downloading all the thoughts. Yeah, yeah, Well I think 148 00:10:46.559 --> 00:10:48.600 it's fun. I think there's value in this. And this is what I 149 00:10:48.600 --> 00:10:52.080 wanted to say earlier is sometimes you're very comfortable to say we don't know, 150 00:10:52.759 --> 00:10:54.919 and I'm comfortable to accept that from you, And at the same time I'm 151 00:10:56.000 --> 00:11:01.720 uncomfortable because I think that it's important to work through plausible answers. What's the 152 00:11:01.759 --> 00:11:03.720 evidences in scripture even though there's not a direct reference, and go, hey, 153 00:11:03.720 --> 00:11:07.159 here's a plausible response. Right. I'm not content to just leave things 154 00:11:07.159 --> 00:11:11.279 with I don't know. I want to always say what is a plausible And 155 00:11:11.679 --> 00:11:16.000 I feel the exact same way about ever about everything. I prefer somebody to 156 00:11:16.039 --> 00:11:20.080 say, even though we don't know, Kama, what I believe. Is 157 00:11:20.120 --> 00:11:26.000 this based on this evidence? That's correct? Yeah, all right, okay, 158 00:11:26.159 --> 00:11:31.200 So we have two passages, two short passages Luke chapter twenty four, 159 00:11:31.679 --> 00:11:37.200 forty four through forty nine, and then also Acts one four through five here 160 00:11:37.240 --> 00:11:43.600 and this is where Jesus appears to the disciples in Jerusalem. And you know 161 00:11:43.639 --> 00:11:46.440 these are there's several appearances after the resurrection, and this is one of them. 162 00:11:46.679 --> 00:11:48.679 So here's what it says in Luke chapter twenty four. It says, 163 00:11:48.840 --> 00:11:52.120 then he said, when I was with you before, I told you that 164 00:11:52.200 --> 00:11:54.159 everything written about me in the Law Moses, and the Prophets and the Psalms 165 00:11:54.480 --> 00:11:58.480 must be fulfilled. And then he opened their minds to understand the scriptures, 166 00:11:58.480 --> 00:12:01.480 and he said, yes, it was written long ago that the Messiah would 167 00:12:01.480 --> 00:12:05.840 suffer and die and rise from the dead on the third day. And it 168 00:12:05.879 --> 00:12:07.960 was also written that this message would be proclaimed in the authority of my name 169 00:12:09.639 --> 00:12:13.600 to all nations beginning in Jerusalem. There is forgiveness of sins for all who 170 00:12:13.639 --> 00:12:16.840 repent. And you are witnesses of all these things. And now I will 171 00:12:16.840 --> 00:12:20.440 send the Holy Spirit, just as my father promised. But stay here in 172 00:12:20.480 --> 00:12:24.039 the city until the Holy Spirit comes, and fills you with power from heaven. 173 00:12:24.799 --> 00:12:26.600 And then it Acts Chapter one, four and five, it says once 174 00:12:26.679 --> 00:12:30.480 when he was eating with them, he commanded them to not leave Jerusalem until 175 00:12:30.519 --> 00:12:33.840 the Father sends you the gifty promise. As I told you before, John 176 00:12:33.879 --> 00:12:35.919 baptized with water. But in just a few days, you'll be baptized with 177 00:12:35.960 --> 00:12:43.200 the Holy Spirit. Yeah, you'll be baptized with the Holy Spirit. Now. 178 00:12:43.600 --> 00:12:50.440 It's interesting too, because earlier a couple of podcasts ago, we read 179 00:12:50.840 --> 00:12:54.360 that Jesus breathed on them, they received the Holy Spirit. But at the 180 00:12:54.399 --> 00:12:58.279 same time, he's not necessarily saying that he only met with the twelve here 181 00:12:58.080 --> 00:13:03.159 right, once he was eating with them, he commanded them, do not 182 00:13:03.240 --> 00:13:05.919 lead Jerusalem until the Father sends you the gift. It's not specifying an Acts 183 00:13:05.919 --> 00:13:11.639 one that he's only talking to the eleven. That's correct. So he's probably, 184 00:13:11.120 --> 00:13:16.399 you know, announcing to those who have not yet received the Holy Spirit 185 00:13:16.399 --> 00:13:22.840 that they're going to Yeah, and it doesn't say that they received the Holy 186 00:13:22.879 --> 00:13:26.159 Spirit. There's no indication that when Jesus briefed on them and said, oh, 187 00:13:26.480 --> 00:13:28.200 received the Holy Spirit, that they end that moment received the Holy Spirit. 188 00:13:28.360 --> 00:13:31.960 As much as you're saying you're going to receive the Holy Spirit, because 189 00:13:31.039 --> 00:13:37.960 he keeps referencing this idea, and traditionally, historically we would view Acts chapter 190 00:13:37.279 --> 00:13:45.120 one two as the Holy Spirit coming upon people at Pentecost. So anyways, 191 00:13:45.759 --> 00:13:50.399 here you go, Jesus is talking and he says, hey, I've already 192 00:13:50.399 --> 00:13:56.000 told you this that every single prophecy about me has to be fulfilled, every 193 00:13:56.000 --> 00:14:00.360 single one. And this is one of the indicators of for us to be 194 00:14:00.360 --> 00:14:03.360 able to go through scripture and look at all the different prophecies of the Messiah 195 00:14:03.840 --> 00:14:09.480 and then measure Jesus by He invites you to measure him and his authenticity by 196 00:14:09.519 --> 00:14:13.519 whether or not every single prophecy was fulfilled. Yeah, well you know that. 197 00:14:13.559 --> 00:14:18.480 You know, this reminds me of is on Palm Sunday here at Heritage, 198 00:14:20.559 --> 00:14:26.879 I was diving into just the scriptures that were fulfilled even in that last 199 00:14:26.919 --> 00:14:31.879 week of Holy Week when Jesus entered into Jerusalem, you know, Triumphlantry and 200 00:14:31.879 --> 00:14:37.279 then fulfilled dozens and dozens and dozens of scriptures. In fact, I referenced 201 00:14:37.279 --> 00:14:39.840 some of them and when I looked them up, and I really dove into 202 00:14:39.919 --> 00:14:43.360 him even Psalm twenty two. The details about his crucifixion. I was reading 203 00:14:43.440 --> 00:14:48.200 those things, and I was like, holy cow, there's over a dozen 204 00:14:48.480 --> 00:14:52.919 details about his crucifixion just in Psalm twenty two, right, right. And 205 00:14:52.960 --> 00:14:58.039 so it's interesting also because he makes a comment and says it was written that 206 00:14:58.080 --> 00:15:01.919 he was suffer and rising in on the third day. And I've met people 207 00:15:03.039 --> 00:15:07.879 my entire life who think that Jesus had to bake in the tomb for at 208 00:15:07.960 --> 00:15:11.360 least seventy two hours in order to qualify that statement. Right, So, 209 00:15:11.399 --> 00:15:15.600 in other words, he has to be in the tomb for three full days. 210 00:15:16.039 --> 00:15:20.440 I didn't literally mean bake. No, you're talking kidding. I was 211 00:15:20.480 --> 00:15:22.000 kidding, yeah, yeah, yeah, like a dean. You know, 212 00:15:22.240 --> 00:15:24.440 I've been in seventy two hours. No, of course, not bake. 213 00:15:24.919 --> 00:15:30.600 But and you're content with the idea that he was in there for parts of 214 00:15:30.639 --> 00:15:33.159 each of those Well, I mean, the scripture is really clear, super 215 00:15:33.200 --> 00:15:41.879 clear, exactly when he died on Friday. Because there's indications that the Pharisees 216 00:15:41.960 --> 00:15:46.320 wanted to hurry the crucifixion or the or the sentencing before the Sabbath came because 217 00:15:46.360 --> 00:15:50.600 they said, we have to do this quickly because it's unlawful. To somebody 218 00:15:50.639 --> 00:15:52.679 of the Sabbath, so they had to hang them on the cross on Friday. 219 00:15:54.080 --> 00:15:58.000 And it tells us very specifically that at three o'clock he breathes. Last. 220 00:15:58.320 --> 00:16:00.360 The next day started at six pm. We know that, so we 221 00:16:00.480 --> 00:16:07.879 know for a fact that he died at three pm. And so even though 222 00:16:07.919 --> 00:16:11.519 he three pm on Friday, three pm on Friday, again, that is 223 00:16:11.559 --> 00:16:17.159 three hours before Saturday, because their Jewish calendar ran from six pm to six 224 00:16:17.159 --> 00:16:21.559 pm, sundown to sundown, and so so therefore, I don't know how 225 00:16:21.600 --> 00:16:25.279 long it takes somebody to take a body and place him in the tomb. 226 00:16:26.480 --> 00:16:30.279 But clearly he was in the tomb before, before the sabbath, the sabbath, 227 00:16:32.000 --> 00:16:33.480 right, because you know, you could sing a time frame between three 228 00:16:33.519 --> 00:16:37.200 o'clock and six pm, right, he was in the tomb. He was 229 00:16:37.200 --> 00:16:40.759 in the tomb. That counts as one day. That counts as on well, 230 00:16:40.840 --> 00:16:45.679 because it counts as the day of Friday, because he didn't say I'll 231 00:16:45.720 --> 00:16:48.519 be in the tomb for three days, that's my point. He said on 232 00:16:48.600 --> 00:16:52.679 the third day, so that counts as day one, but not one full 233 00:16:52.759 --> 00:16:56.600 day. And then I referenced it with Jonah. He said, as Jonah 234 00:16:56.639 --> 00:16:57.799 was in the whale for three days and three nights. So yeah, yah, 235 00:16:57.879 --> 00:17:00.759 yeah, yeah, he did say three days. Yeah he did. 236 00:17:00.840 --> 00:17:04.279 Yeah, that's right. But what you're saying is, according to the evidences 237 00:17:04.279 --> 00:17:11.519 in scripture, the fact that he was in the tomb on Friday at any 238 00:17:11.559 --> 00:17:15.079 point counts as a day. Yes, he was there that day on Friday, 239 00:17:15.160 --> 00:17:18.079 he was there that day on Saturday, and then after the day started 240 00:17:18.119 --> 00:17:23.720 on Sunday. Yes, and we know that it's really clear that they went 241 00:17:23.720 --> 00:17:27.359 to the tomb while it was dark the scripture says, and then the other 242 00:17:27.400 --> 00:17:33.880 gospel say just at sunrise the earthquake, so it was just at that moment. 243 00:17:33.039 --> 00:17:37.279 So that's pretty specific, although it doesn't lean the hour. So if 244 00:17:37.279 --> 00:17:42.480 you're assuming that the sunrise happened at six am, then he was in the 245 00:17:42.480 --> 00:17:48.079 tomb approximately thirty eight or thirty nine hours. If it was later than that, 246 00:17:48.839 --> 00:17:52.480 or if it took them longer to bury him, that's the give and 247 00:17:52.519 --> 00:17:56.200 take. So there you go. Anyways, but you're talking about the specificity 248 00:17:56.359 --> 00:18:03.480 of prophecies. Yeah, and just keeping mind that that again he had fulfilled 249 00:18:03.039 --> 00:18:08.799 prophecy with every single action, you know, And so that's all I'm trying 250 00:18:08.799 --> 00:18:14.119 to point out is it wasn't a violation because he said on the third day. 251 00:18:14.319 --> 00:18:18.519 Yeah, So he says everything that was written about me in the Law 252 00:18:18.519 --> 00:18:21.599 of Moses, everything that was written about me in all of the prophets, 253 00:18:21.839 --> 00:18:25.319 everything that was written about me in the Psalms, right, So basically he's 254 00:18:25.359 --> 00:18:29.599 referring to everything that had all of the Bible that had been written up to 255 00:18:29.640 --> 00:18:33.160 his point. Right, So everything in the Old Testament YEP Old Testament, 256 00:18:33.319 --> 00:18:37.279 and so his in the Life Application Study Bible notes, it mentions his role 257 00:18:37.319 --> 00:18:41.920 as prophet was foretold in Deuteronomy chapter eighteen, his sufferings were prophesied and Psalms 258 00:18:41.960 --> 00:18:48.039 twenty two in Isaiah fifty three. His resurrection was predicted in Psalm sixteen in 259 00:18:48.079 --> 00:18:51.160 Isaiah fifty three. And you can go on and on and on and on 260 00:18:51.200 --> 00:18:56.440 and on. So Jesus is inviting you to investigate him based on all of 261 00:18:56.480 --> 00:19:00.240 the prophecies and claims of the Messiah, and that where he was born, 262 00:19:00.759 --> 00:19:03.200 how he lived his life, the things that he said and that he did, 263 00:19:03.279 --> 00:19:07.680 and then ultimately all of those that lead up to his death, burial, 264 00:19:07.720 --> 00:19:11.240 and resurrection. And if you can disprove one of them, then Jesus 265 00:19:11.319 --> 00:19:17.200 isn't the Messiah. That's correct, that's his claim. So you're talking about 266 00:19:17.200 --> 00:19:22.720 confidence in the Word of God and talking about confidence in what he actually fulfilled. 267 00:19:22.119 --> 00:19:26.480 He's saying, if you can disprove one and this is why so many 268 00:19:26.559 --> 00:19:30.839 people, you know, atheists in particular, really reject miracles or they really 269 00:19:30.880 --> 00:19:34.200 reject the resurrection. If they can try to disassemble one of those two things, 270 00:19:34.599 --> 00:19:38.400 then Jesus isn't really who he says he was. And so he's inviting 271 00:19:38.400 --> 00:19:41.039 them to say that or to study that, to investigate it. And I 272 00:19:41.079 --> 00:19:44.880 would too. If you're struggling with faith, if you're trying to figure out 273 00:19:45.200 --> 00:19:48.799 what to believe about Jesus, now dig in. There are so many resources 274 00:19:49.200 --> 00:19:55.240 about whether or not we can trust the resurrection. I really like Lee Strobel 275 00:19:55.720 --> 00:19:57.440 has written a lot of good books, you know, the Case for Christ, 276 00:19:57.480 --> 00:20:00.559 the Case for the real Jesus, the Case for a Creator. You 277 00:20:00.599 --> 00:20:06.960 can go on. And so Lee Strobel has a degree, a law degree 278 00:20:06.960 --> 00:20:11.279 from Yale and then became he was I think the youngest editor for law editor 279 00:20:11.440 --> 00:20:15.640 for Chicago Sun Times, and his wife became a Christian and he was a 280 00:20:15.640 --> 00:20:18.880 little bit mad about it because they were committed atheists, and so he decided 281 00:20:18.920 --> 00:20:23.359 to do an investigation to try to disprove Christianity. And that's what he decided 282 00:20:23.480 --> 00:20:27.480 was Jesus makes this claim and says, hey, everything I already told you, 283 00:20:27.599 --> 00:20:30.400 everything that was said about the Messiah, I had to fulfill. And 284 00:20:30.440 --> 00:20:33.880 so he decided, okay, if I can disprove anything, and he decided 285 00:20:33.920 --> 00:20:37.279 to particularly go after the resurrection, and in the meantime, as he begun 286 00:20:37.519 --> 00:20:41.000 doing this study with experts all around the country, doing all kinds of interviews, 287 00:20:41.160 --> 00:20:47.480 he winds up becoming a Christian because he couldn't disprove Jesus' claims. And 288 00:20:47.519 --> 00:20:51.680 then he writes all these really great books, and he writes them investigatively, 289 00:20:51.960 --> 00:20:57.519 having interviewed in the books some of the greatest thinkers and greatest minds on these 290 00:20:57.559 --> 00:21:00.000 things. And so, hey, there's a lot of good resource out there. 291 00:21:00.000 --> 00:21:03.240 Go out and read the Case for Christ if you're struggling with this, 292 00:21:03.400 --> 00:21:06.359 because these are the claims Jesus made, and he invites you to test him 293 00:21:06.359 --> 00:21:08.839 on it. And it reminds me also of Louis Giglio. So Louis, 294 00:21:10.440 --> 00:21:12.519 and as matter of fact, we're starting small group tonight when we're recording this, 295 00:21:14.559 --> 00:21:17.920 and tonight is our first session with our small group with Louis studies a 296 00:21:17.960 --> 00:21:19.200 couple of weeks ago. Yeah, a couple of weeks ago for the listener, 297 00:21:19.279 --> 00:21:23.480 right, but anyway, it's incidental information they didn't need. Yeah, 298 00:21:23.519 --> 00:21:30.319 well, Louis Giglio basically did the same thing that Lee s Trouble did. 299 00:21:30.799 --> 00:21:37.200 So he has two sort of major themes in his messages proving, you know, 300 00:21:37.240 --> 00:21:40.599 the case for the Creator and the case for Christ and everything else. 301 00:21:41.119 --> 00:21:44.119 But basically he goes large into the universe, talking about the precision of the 302 00:21:44.160 --> 00:21:48.240 universe that's one angle, and he does this tremendous thing, and then he 303 00:21:48.319 --> 00:21:52.000 goes inward and he looks at biology and then he just goes inward, which 304 00:21:52.039 --> 00:21:53.440 is what Lee Struble does too. Right on the case of the Creator. 305 00:21:53.759 --> 00:21:56.799 He goes inward and he talks, he looks at the human DNA and how 306 00:21:56.839 --> 00:22:03.720 God's designed the body and things like that, And it's remarkable how when you're 307 00:22:03.720 --> 00:22:06.880 presented with all that evidence and you're like, okay, you know, even 308 00:22:06.920 --> 00:22:11.400 even basic logic and basic design, you know, I thought that that was 309 00:22:11.440 --> 00:22:15.319 pretty pretty incredible. So I thought Lee did a great job. So Jesus 310 00:22:15.319 --> 00:22:18.599 then says, Hey, the Holy Spirit's going to come just as God promised, 311 00:22:18.759 --> 00:22:22.599 and so go wait for me in Galilee or in Jerusalem. I'm sorry. 312 00:22:23.039 --> 00:22:27.400 And so this is about forty days what we know in the Book of 313 00:22:27.440 --> 00:22:30.880 Acts. It doesn't mention it in these other passages, but in the Book 314 00:22:30.880 --> 00:22:36.960 of Acts, the Bible says that it was forty days from the resurrection until 315 00:22:37.759 --> 00:22:41.359 the ascension, and then after that, you know, or they waited, 316 00:22:41.359 --> 00:22:45.319 I'm sorry, not from the resurrection. They waited for forty days and then 317 00:22:45.359 --> 00:22:48.480 Pentecost came and that's when the Holy Spirit came. So well, Jesus is 318 00:22:48.480 --> 00:22:52.839 about to ascend on tomorrow's podcast. That's correct. So and that will complete 319 00:22:52.960 --> 00:22:56.720 this whole series that we've been in. Yeah, isn't that neat? Which 320 00:22:56.759 --> 00:23:00.039 is pretty crazy? Sureous. So well, that's about our time, and 321 00:23:00.160 --> 00:23:03.200 so we will see you hopefully as we wrap up this series next time on 322 00:23:03.319 --> 00:23:07.680 the Bible. Guys. H