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Once the world was green and livin, then was the great nuke.

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Death lived everywhere.

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All were born sick and unclean, a livin curse from the Americans and commies.

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Then one day, a baby was born, clean and clear, and the livin curse was over.

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The child grew strong and beautiful, and she was called...

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Woman taught her children to follow the tiara and obey the regs, and the earth lived again, but some disobeyed the regs, and from them came the children of darkness and disease.

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Blow guts to be hunted and nuked till Negi are left!

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Hello, folks, and welcome back again.

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It's been a while.

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This is The Cinema Beef Podcast.

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I am one of your hosts, Gary Hill.

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With me tonight is not the usual people, but people you know, I would hope by now, but some support from this show and other shows that I'm on.

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They are the hosts with the mostest of The They Must Be Destroyed On Sight Podcast.

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Lee Russell, how are you doing, sir?

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I am doing fine.

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How are you, Gary?

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Oh, I am here.

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Spring is sprung, so seasonal allergies are, you know, being a fucking asshole, but I'm alive, you know.

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Man, oh man.

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With us also is the lovely Lady Lee.

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How are you doing, babe?

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I am doing great.

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I'm doing as good as I can be right now.

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I am happy.

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That's all that matters.

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That's good.

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Happiness is good.

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And I'm glad you're with us and maybe very busy with school and, you know, moving or whatnot.

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If you want to lay his address, just hit us up.

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We'll tell you what it is, you know, for all the good news and good tomorrow.

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Not really, but, you know, Oh, my gosh.

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It's been so long, guys, but, you know, I'm going to kick it out the same way.

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We always kick it off and say to the lady, what's she been watching lately?

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Okay, so I've been in the middle of a move, so I haven't been watching much, but I've been binge watching Bob's Burgers, the series, because I'm absolutely obsessed with it.

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And it's probably my favorite go-to, like, feel good, just put in the background TV series.

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So for like the sixth or seventh time I watched the series, I've watched it so many times.

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I finish it off and I'm like, okay, cool.

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Let's start it again.

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Yeah, they're in the wrong with that.

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I enjoy Bob's Burgers as well, and I enjoy what it does sometimes, is it throws stuff out there that genre cinema fans may know through the references of.

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I love the Hawk and Chick episode, and the almost shibita freaking sorcerer in one of the Christmas episodes.

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It's the little stuff in there, you know.

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Well, I may have to watch them.

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Yeah, oh yeah.

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Look, what's he in?

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They have a lot of pop culture references, like surprisingly so many, like there's some that I catch on to and there's others that I don't, but I know they make reference to a lot of like just unusual things where you're like, oh, hey, I know that.

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Oh, and the whole Italian western genre, when Bob has the episode where he's obsessed with a character called Banjo, instead of Django, it's Banjo, you know?

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I think that, I think doesn't Sabata have a Banjo character in it though?

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Yeah, Banjo is in Sabata.

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Played by William Berger.

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So it's like a whole, yeah, it's like a whole thing.

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And there's a lot of little shit in Bob Berger's.

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And again, like she says, the rewatchability is there.

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And I think it has a lot to do with the writing and the voice actors, which she's also an archer, which I enjoy.

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And apparently Bill Skarsgård's inner monologue in that boy kills everybody movie or whatever it's called, that action movie.

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So I haven't seen it yet, but I'm there for it.

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I'm there for it that way, you know, because he doesn't talk.

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I guess the H.

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John Benjamin doesn't talk for him throughout the whole film.

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It's like his inner monologue.

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I'm there for it.

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But Mr.

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Lee, what's your watch line, brother?

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I'll just mention one thing, really.

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I just watched this the other day.

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It just popped up on Shutter.

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It's Infested from 2023, directed by Sebastian Vanecek.

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French language horror film, creature feature movie.

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If people don't know the story of it, it's set in this tenement apartment in France.

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And it's run down, and it's like, oh, lower class, poor people live there kind of thing.

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Very much like the blocks in Attack the Block and stuff.

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But instead of Britain, it's set in France.

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So there's this one guy who's into rare bugs and stuff.

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He lives in the apartment, and he's got dreams of being more and doing well by his family and his neighbors and stuff.

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But he's just basically a petty criminal who sells stolen sneakers and shit like that to people.

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But he's got a real thing for bugs and exotic animals and stuff like that.

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He's got this whole vivarium kind of thing set up in his bedroom with all these rare creatures and shit in it.

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He's going to buy a present for somebody, and it's from this shady guy who sells him a rare spider.

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So he takes it home, but he doesn't keep it in a proper box.

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The spider escapes, and it happens to be an incredibly aggressive, deadly version of like a species of recluse spider.

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And the thing about the spider is the way it defends itself is it evolves and gets bigger and meaner.

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So it starts multiplying immediately, starts having babies, and they infest the entire apartment building very quickly and start picking people off.

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And then we get like a wreck situation where the police show up and basically quarantine the whole building and keep the people in.

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And there's a sort of juxtaposition kind of thing.

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There's this sort of allusion to, oh, he keeps bugs in his varvarium or whatever, and now the police are keeping people they consider pretty much bugs because they're lower class in sort of a similar situation.

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And while that's happening, these spiders, some of them get bigger, but they don't get so big that it's completely unbelievable because you see something like eight-legged freaks or something like that.

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And it's like there's no spider that can get that big because its exoskeleton would crush under the weight of it.

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But these ones get about as big as spiders would have gotten in like prehistoric times with like more oxygen in the air and stuff like that.

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They get pretty fucking big.

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They get bigger than any spider you see in real life.

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And it's a combination of CGI and some practical effects, I do believe.

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It's very effectively done.

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There's incredibly tense fucking sequences here set up, like foreshadowed beforehand because this cheap ass tenement building, it has like limited lighting in it.

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So like if you go to a certain hallway where there's like, they usually keep the lights off.

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There's like automatic lights, of course, where you have to like clap your hands, wave your arms, whatever to turn them on and then walk down the hallway kind of thing.

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I think they just sent you.

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I think the clap is a bit different.

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Well, yeah, whatever.

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I think the clapper because, you know, I grew up with the clapper, not the clap.

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But there's also like, I don't know how these people don't have like flashlights with batteries and stuff like that.

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Everyone in the building who has a flashlight seems to have one that's like a wind up one that has a charge.

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And then the charge, you have to keep winding it to keep it lit.

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And they also have like these light switches on the fucking walls that you wind it up and it gives you like a minute of light.

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So there's a sequence where they have to go down this long corridor that's just infested with these fucking aggressive spiders.

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And they got to keep the fucking light on and get down the corridor while the light's still on.

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And it's really, really well done.

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I won't spoil anything else, but I think it's probably, in my mind, the best horror movie of the year so far.

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So it's really good.

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It's like the lights in my old hallway.

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Probably slightly better than the lights in your old hallway, but yeah.

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Yeah, at least theirs worked.

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Yeah, they at least turn on sometimes.

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But yeah, that's the only thing I'll mention, I think.

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Cool.

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I watched a few things.

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I'll mention a few.

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I haven't been recording a long time about watching things since then.

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Two things, Elwa Harold, one thing you guys talked about your show on great length was the Fallout series.

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It's excellent.

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Excellently casted.

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Walton Goggins could do no wrong, in my opinion.

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He was excellent on the show.

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No surprise there of me.

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Never played a video game in my life of this, but I went in blind and I said, I'm going to watch this because Walton Goggins and I enjoyed the whole thing.

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You know, all the characters in the thing, even like random character actors show up in this.

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I forget the actress's name, but she's been in tons of things.

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She's the one that replaced the guy's leg when the guy lost his leg.

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She plays Patty the daytime hooker.

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My name is Earl, plus many, many other things, but you know, it's heartwarming.

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I love when folks like that show up in things.

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There's a lot of that going on here.

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Chris Parnell shows up as a one-eyed person in this, and I just got to meet him, which was spectacular.

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Yeah, just good.

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It's a good watch, and I'm much like you guys looking forward to the next season, because it means it opened for something pretty big, and that and another Amazon product that I'll push because it's such a fucking cartoon.

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The Roadhouse Redux, I will push people because don't go in the eyes of saying, I'm looking for a spiritual remake of the Patrick Swayze one, which is a film I love.

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I'm wearing a sock clasp, and I'm out to some people, but I have to film my love.

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This is like a cartoon version of that.

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Sam Elliott, but with Conor McGregor, who rolls in there like a juggernaut, just knocks in the people and shit.

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You get to about an hour in the movie, he shows up, and it's not a slog to get through, but once Conor shows up just to show you, hey, this is this unstoppable enemy, you're like, no, I've been doing it all the way now.

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You know, that's the best way I could put it.

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Didn't need to be two hours.

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I will say that about the film, so nothing needs to be two hours.

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I heard Jake Gyllenhaal was actually kind of like the weakest part of that entire film, that otherwise it was like...

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It's a shame too, because I really like him as an actor in a lot of things, even not so much Donnie Darko.

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People subscribe to Donnie Darko.

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I'm not one of those people, but Nightcrawler, even something as heartwarming as Bubble Boy.

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Because I haven't seen him forever.

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I'm a Joe Johnston fan though, so I should really revisit October Sky.

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That's why I missed him and I loved him.

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I liked that.

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No, it was good.

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Yeah, I liked that time travel movie he did, the one where he's on the train or whatever, and he keeps, it's like Groundhog Day, but he keeps popping back in time and he's got to stop a terrorist on a train or something like that.

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I can't remember the fucking name of it.

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I don't know this.

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I probably just stepped out.

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Am I thinking the wrong goddamn thing?

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No, no, I'm sure it's a thing.

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I haven't seen everything.

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You know, it's just, you got one that I follow.

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I'm sorry.

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I'm just gonna check this because I need to know.

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No, you got it.

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You got it, man.

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Self Paws, another one that's underrated, I think, as far as he's, he got pretty ripped for that movie.

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I think he got less ripped for Roadhouse, which is surprising.

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And I mean, he was like super ripped for Self Paws.

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Yeah, that's another one.

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Prisoners.

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I've never seen Brokeback Mountain.

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It's just, Oh my God, I love it.

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At the time, the actors did not appeal to me.

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Zodiac.

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So one day, one day, lady, I will say again.

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Zodiac, of course, as well.

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Oh yeah.

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I keep mentioning things.

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Source code, source code.

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That's it.

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From 20.

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I've always seen the box.

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I never picked it up.

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It's one of those things.

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It's just to watch it.

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Yeah, like he.

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I may have owned it before.

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I don't know.

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It's like they they time jump like his consciousness and other people's bodies on this train.

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They keep like having to repeat it as he tries to like sort of suss out who the bomber is in this train.

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He's got like eight minutes every time to try to figure it out.

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It's a pretty neat little like Twilight Zoney kind of premise.

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It's pretty cool.

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Put that together with the Tom Cruise joints.

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Oh, yeah.

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I'm excited to and the edge of tomorrow, yes.

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The women on my podcast hate Tom Cruise, but the last time I was at Suzanne's house, I made her watch Rock of Ages.

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I said, I'm going to make you watch something really stupid that you're going to enjoy.

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You know, at the end of the movie, she really enjoyed it.

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So there's that.

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It's hard to watch anything with him in it.

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So I get it.

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I mean, I'll watch I'll watch it just I have a hard time watching it in Rock of Ages.

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He wears leather pants with a cod piece with a demon's tongue.

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I'm guessing he made out some kind of Ruby coming out of his crotch area.

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So there's that, you know, that kind of thing.

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You just got to separate the crazy Scientologist from the actual actor who like who's in the sixties and still does crazy stunt work because he's a crazy person and no one can tell him no because he's so powerful in Hollywood.

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Well, other actors who are older do their own stunt work.

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So I'd rather watch them than him.

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So I don't care whatever he wants to do.

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X, I'm sorry, X, X-Men 97.

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If you haven't yet, please do.

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I never watched something that made me so excited and feel so tragic all at the same time in the parts of it, man.

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The last episode they had, they dropped some pretty big bombs of things to come.

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So yeah, that's my Wednesday, X-Men 97, watching it work.

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So I'm looking forward to that.

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I watched the first two episodes when they dropped, and then I had like, yeah, you know what?

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I don't really have much nostalgia for this.

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I'm probably not going to continue.

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Well, I'll tell you, they get a lot right, what these big productions got wrong.

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They got the bloodlines right, finally.

220
00:16:26,780 --> 00:16:35,640
They haven't mentioned that Magneto and Juggernaut, they're brothers, I think, in the comic, I think, right?

221
00:16:36,220 --> 00:16:41,880
No, it's Professor Xavier and Juggernaut are brothers in the comic, if I remember correctly.

222
00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:48,420
Yeah, because he just shows up in this last episode, and this is spoilers, of course.

223
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Magneto escapes and lets out a giant EMP, which frees a bunch of delightful villains that we all know and love.

224
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And one of them is Dr.

225
00:16:59,960 --> 00:17:06,260
Doom, so I'm getting ready for a shit storm to happen real soon.

226
00:17:06,660 --> 00:17:07,940
I'd be so happy watching it.

227
00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:09,560
That's all I'm saying about it.

228
00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:11,500
I might get back into it.

229
00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:12,200
It's excellent.

230
00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:14,920
Oh, yeah, I recommend it.

231
00:17:15,540 --> 00:17:23,040
And the usual TV shit, Dark Side of the Ring, if you haven't watched it, it's sensational.

232
00:17:24,540 --> 00:17:28,240
I was just going to say very hit or miss season because there's a couple of people there.

233
00:17:28,260 --> 00:17:33,480
It's like not really tragic lives like John Tinta didn't really like other than the fact that he died of cancer.

234
00:17:33,500 --> 00:17:36,680
It's like, where's the Dark Side of the Ring part of that, though?

235
00:17:36,700 --> 00:17:40,700
It's like he was a well loved performer who was like really good.

236
00:17:41,020 --> 00:17:41,360
Yep.

237
00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:42,760
Yeah.

238
00:17:42,780 --> 00:17:51,980
It should have been biography material with that one, I think, because all the Russians I've met over the years and they all want to talk to me because I'm full.

239
00:17:52,460 --> 00:17:54,680
You know, skullets with the long beard.

240
00:17:54,700 --> 00:17:58,540
I don't know if you guys noticed, but I look a lot like the earthquake.

241
00:17:58,860 --> 00:17:59,760
Oh, no, you don't say?

242
00:17:59,780 --> 00:18:02,460
They tend to, no, I don't say.

243
00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:04,340
So they tend to pull me aside.

244
00:18:04,360 --> 00:18:06,540
Roddy was the best.

245
00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,560
See, he's been Roddy Piper before.

246
00:18:10,060 --> 00:18:13,140
He was full on, you know, a loving guy.

247
00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,620
He would hug you with his whole body.

248
00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:30,460
His whole body he would hug you with and, you know, he, and again, they all want to tell me earthquake stories, him, Ted DiBiase, anybody you can think of under the sun that I've met, they all want to tell me earthquake stories of what a nice guy he was.

249
00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:43,520
So when that came out and it confirmed that he was this great family man and that he was, it was very loving and respectful to his coworkers, it was not a surprise to me at all that John Tendo was a great man that died too soon.

250
00:18:43,540 --> 00:18:47,740
You know, it was, I was BS'ed certain ones.

251
00:18:49,380 --> 00:18:54,300
I was just going to say like, and he's one of the ones who died too soon just from like cancer.

252
00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:55,920
Oh, excuse me, from cancer.

253
00:18:55,980 --> 00:19:02,920
Like it's, he's not like these other guys, like, you know, like Davey Boy Smith, who dies at like fucking 40, like at 40.

254
00:19:02,940 --> 00:19:15,100
It's like I'm 46 now, I've lived six years longer than that fucker who is like in amazing shape otherwise, other than like all the steroids and drugs he did that fucking blew his heart out or whatever, you know.

255
00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:19,800
But the fucking, yeah, it's crazy to think that like he died at 40, like Mr.

256
00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:28,380
Perfect died at like 44 or something like that, like not much older and like all those guys kind of like popped off in their thirties and forties.

257
00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:29,560
It's crazy.

258
00:19:29,940 --> 00:19:51,720
Well, they are much rougher road schedule, much rougher road schedule back in those days than they did, you know, now, whereas those guys wrestle two times in a day and they go to the next city and wrestle two times again another day, you know, and it's a much rigorous work schedule back in those days because if you did work, you didn't eat.

259
00:19:51,900 --> 00:20:01,300
It's not like these guys now where you see them and like Seth Rollins on Instagram taking his kid to Disneyland and shit, you know, you didn't see that stuff back in those days, you know.

260
00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:02,060
Yeah.

261
00:20:02,460 --> 00:20:07,580
Those sorts of things like time off if you're hot on TV, there's those sorts of things back in those days.

262
00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:10,840
Oh, my gosh.

263
00:20:11,660 --> 00:20:13,900
Yeah, the Sherry one was especially good.

264
00:20:14,180 --> 00:20:21,420
I always enjoyed Sherry as a performer and as a ballet and I never knew a whole lot about her.

265
00:20:22,380 --> 00:20:24,520
My, we talked about her friend Virgil off the air.

266
00:20:24,900 --> 00:20:33,020
His mom was a wrestler and he was, my buddy Virgil was a second generation wrestler and she worked with Sherry, you know, stuff like that.

267
00:20:33,020 --> 00:20:40,640
And they got into, you know, everybody talks about Moola because you kind of have to because she was the queen pin of women's wrestling for a long time.

268
00:20:40,660 --> 00:20:44,320
She was the authority and Moola got paid.

269
00:20:44,340 --> 00:20:46,440
So there's that, you know.

270
00:20:46,500 --> 00:20:48,800
She was an abusive pimp is what she was, but.

271
00:20:50,340 --> 00:20:52,840
Pretty much, you know, but without her, they didn't get booked.

272
00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:59,740
So it's like, you know, you take the abuse, take the abuse of Moola or else she's at work, you know, especially.

273
00:21:00,860 --> 00:21:01,700
Oh my gosh.

274
00:21:03,220 --> 00:21:04,600
Nasty woman, you know, but.

275
00:21:05,540 --> 00:21:06,360
Absolutely terrible.

276
00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:07,280
Oh my gosh.

277
00:21:07,740 --> 00:21:11,680
That's, that's about it for me, though, I'm sure that I'm forgetting, you know.

278
00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,400
Lee's just like, I don't know, rewatches, I'm sure.

279
00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:16,820
Lee's just like, what?

280
00:21:17,340 --> 00:21:18,000
Say it again?

281
00:21:18,420 --> 00:21:19,200
Lee's just like.

282
00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:27,580
Well, if you want to watch it, go find a tough, go look up Moola and some Moola stories and it'll surprise the hell out of you.

283
00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:34,960
You know, how tenacious she was there lately, well, smart businesswoman, I'll give it that.

284
00:21:37,740 --> 00:21:46,160
But here, here, here today, tonight, we're treating the lady here to a feature that many leaders do together.

285
00:21:46,180 --> 00:21:56,620
It's a beef out of the can episode, where we take two films in the studio that those crazy Israelis built, don't hold us politically correct to that.

286
00:21:56,660 --> 00:21:59,280
I know there's a crisis going on in that area.

287
00:21:59,300 --> 00:22:10,940
So just I'm just saying, guys, but they were two Israeli brothers who built a studio and built an empire really on trash and made a lot of money doing it.

288
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And these two films we're gonna do tonight are post apocalyptic in nature.

289
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One's a little more clear than the other one, America 3000, and we're doing The Apple, which I'm very excited about both these movies because I should be told I didn't have a bad time with them.

290
00:22:30,420 --> 00:22:42,760
So I'm curious about what my co-hosts have to say about this and yeah, we'll get to that uh right now with America 3000 from 1986 after the trailer.

291
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It is 900 years after the great nuke, and the roles of women have changed dramatically.

292
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Much to the displeasure of men and mutants, for it's a new kind of war being fought, with a certain kick to it.

293
00:23:08,467 --> 00:23:10,687
Meet Corvus, he's a scholar.

294
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Horse.

295
00:23:12,207 --> 00:23:14,147
He's a spy.

296
00:23:14,167 --> 00:23:20,667
He's a man who falls back into the 20th century and lands the most important job in America.

297
00:23:20,927 --> 00:23:21,227
Mr.

298
00:23:21,247 --> 00:23:21,727
President.

299
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Me for president.

300
00:23:27,367 --> 00:23:30,767
Meet Vena, the virginal queen of the Thunder Warrior.

301
00:23:32,367 --> 00:23:38,887
It is up to Corvus and Vena to bring a little civilization back into the world.

302
00:23:48,700 --> 00:23:49,380
I'm a man.

303
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,000
Corvus and Vena.

304
00:23:51,940 --> 00:23:57,540
Two love birds out to prove that love is the only thing worth nuking for.

305
00:24:01,360 --> 00:24:06,600
America 3000, an outrageous post-nuke adventure.

306
00:24:08,980 --> 00:24:11,660
America 3000 from 1986.

307
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:15,500
Yeah, this is a canon film.

308
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,840
So of course, plot synopsis is this.

309
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:31,120
In a post-apocalyptic wasteland where a tribe of women rule and all men are either ferals or slaves, one man, one, this is one man here, one man rises up to free the men.

310
00:24:31,660 --> 00:24:34,900
Can they coexist in peace or will they have to die in war?

311
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:41,980
This is written and directed by David Engelbach, whose Canon credit is pretty much all Canon.

312
00:24:42,360 --> 00:24:49,460
He was a writer on Death Wish 2, has a story credit on Over The Top, and I think not much more past that.

313
00:24:49,540 --> 00:24:54,460
He did an episode of MacGyver and he also acted in Jaws.

314
00:24:56,360 --> 00:24:58,180
He was just like a lab assistant.

315
00:24:58,420 --> 00:25:01,200
Yeah, he was just like a lab assistant or something on Jaws.

316
00:25:01,220 --> 00:25:04,020
And I think that was like the first thing he did in the industry.

317
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:10,120
And then he went on to work with Canon basically, that was it.

318
00:25:10,140 --> 00:25:10,780
Well, it was good.

319
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,940
It was good employment there for a little while.

320
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:15,520
Oh yeah.

321
00:25:15,900 --> 00:25:17,420
Till the empire kind of fell.

322
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:23,260
If you didn't blow all your money on cocaine and you saved a few bucks and you're fine.

323
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:24,160
There you go.

324
00:25:24,180 --> 00:25:24,920
There you go.

325
00:25:24,940 --> 00:25:27,960
This starts Chuck Wagner as Corpus.

326
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,660
You may know him if you watched the early 80s series Auto Man.

327
00:25:36,300 --> 00:25:38,820
I saw those on bootleg tapes a long ago.

328
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,740
And it is a reason why we're away so fast, but it is what it is.

329
00:25:44,500 --> 00:25:52,160
Laureen Landon as Berna, William Wallace as Gruss, Sue Gloss as Maura.

330
00:25:52,180 --> 00:25:54,980
I don't know all these names.

331
00:25:55,180 --> 00:26:04,920
There's a lot of names here, but one of the most important characters in the whole film, Steve Malavick is already the awful because I love a guy in a goddamn suit.

332
00:26:04,980 --> 00:26:06,440
So there's that, you know.

333
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,360
I should mention Laureen Landon.

334
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:14,460
So she's the big star in this basically other than Chuck Wagner.

335
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:20,180
She was in Hundra, and she actually had a couple other interesting credits.

336
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:25,380
She was in The Stuff and It's Alive 3 and Maniac Cop 1 and 2 as well.

337
00:26:25,420 --> 00:26:27,660
So she had a little bit of a-

338
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:28,860
She worked with Larry Cohen, man.

339
00:26:29,260 --> 00:26:32,360
Yeah, she had a little bit of a B-movie career going on there for a while.

340
00:26:35,220 --> 00:26:35,880
Cool, brother.

341
00:26:35,900 --> 00:26:37,880
I'm gonna get down to the meat and bones.

342
00:26:37,900 --> 00:26:40,600
This is a post-apocalyptic joint.

343
00:26:41,140 --> 00:26:44,840
I dug it more than some of these.

344
00:26:45,180 --> 00:26:51,000
I'm gonna kick it to our male lead of the bunch here, Mr.

345
00:26:51,020 --> 00:26:51,620
Lee Russell.

346
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,140
What do you think of America 3000, sir?

347
00:26:54,620 --> 00:27:03,860
I'm glad we finally have a movie that talks about the real problem in society today, the matriarchy and all this wokeness that is ruining what real men are.

348
00:27:04,500 --> 00:27:19,720
No, this is a movie where I think honestly, both the movies that we're gonna be talking about tonight are a perfect example of why Golan Globus should have stuck to their wheelhouse more often than not.

349
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,600
And they kind of did usually with Canon stuff.

350
00:27:22,620 --> 00:27:24,000
And that's where they were most successful.

351
00:27:24,020 --> 00:27:35,800
Whenever they tried to branch out from crime and action movies, they usually misread what brought people to those movies, I think, in some respects.

352
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:37,880
I will give them credit for this though.

353
00:27:38,020 --> 00:27:44,780
This movie tries to do a little bit of everything that these sort of post-apocalyptic movies were doing at the time.

354
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:57,240
And they try to do a couple different things too, namely stuff like the soundtrack, which is very like 80s butt metal stuff, like stuff you'd hear in heavy metal parking lot and shit like that.

355
00:27:57,300 --> 00:28:00,440
I was very surprised by that because you usually don't hear that.

356
00:28:00,460 --> 00:28:04,700
You usually hear cheap synthesizer music in all these kind of thing.

357
00:28:06,120 --> 00:28:17,660
But for the most part, a lot of this obviously was rewritten because I know this is a script that David Engelbach had kicking around since the 1970s that he'd wanted to get produced.

358
00:28:17,980 --> 00:28:25,540
And so he obviously did some work for Golden Globus for a while until they gave him a deal like, we'll let you direct the film.

359
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,720
You've done some good work for us with like Death Wish and stuff like that.

360
00:28:28,740 --> 00:28:29,760
We'll let you direct the film.

361
00:28:30,260 --> 00:28:47,940
And then he directs this, but it's pretty obvious that Golden Globus or somebody under them had some input into what this eventually became, because a lot of this stuff feels like we've seen the Mad Max films now, and now we have to rewrite a bunch of shit.

362
00:28:47,960 --> 00:29:09,660
Like this feels like it was probably a way different film in the 1970s if it had been made then as opposed to post Mad Max, where now it's like trying to do everything Mad Max was doing and throw in a guy in an ape costume and throw in a secret bomb shelter with the president's shit and his tin foil suit in it.

363
00:29:09,940 --> 00:29:13,100
And this weird...

364
00:29:14,220 --> 00:29:19,020
Lady Lee and I saw this really shitty Italian movie last year.

365
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,520
I can't remember the fucking...

366
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,360
When men were something and women were this.

367
00:29:26,700 --> 00:29:31,600
Yeah, and it was like battle the sexes between male and female cavemen.

368
00:29:31,620 --> 00:29:34,200
It feels like a lot of that in this fucking film too.

369
00:29:35,540 --> 00:29:37,300
A lot of humor that really doesn't land.

370
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,600
But I didn't hate this.

371
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,840
It was an easy watch for the most part.

372
00:29:43,860 --> 00:29:46,080
There was definitely some interesting stuff in it.

373
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:54,540
I just will get into it as we talk about it more in general, but I don't feel like it necessarily came together all that well, honestly.

374
00:29:57,980 --> 00:30:05,120
I will say when we get into more discussion, but I do have some major problems with this that were really irritated the fuck out of me.

375
00:30:05,380 --> 00:30:07,240
But that being said, I did not hate the film.

376
00:30:07,260 --> 00:30:10,680
I was just kind of disappointed that it went certain directions.

377
00:30:15,420 --> 00:30:20,260
I think I know what you're talking about there, at least one of those scenes.

378
00:30:21,100 --> 00:30:28,500
I was going to call my, what was I going to call, if this was a They Must Be Destroyed On Sight Podcast, and I forget now.

379
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:30,900
It was certainly disgusting.

380
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,060
Oh yeah, it was about semen.

381
00:30:33,340 --> 00:30:37,140
Lady Lee, it was about semen, yes it was.

382
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:44,100
Oh, something about a phrase they used being seated in this movie.

383
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:44,660
Oh yeah.

384
00:30:44,700 --> 00:30:45,700
Yeah, that's what it was about.

385
00:30:48,820 --> 00:30:49,800
I don't mean to laugh about that.

386
00:30:49,820 --> 00:30:50,520
I'm sorry guys.

387
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:58,760
Lady Lee, what is your thoughts on America 3000?

388
00:30:58,780 --> 00:31:03,940
I may have fallen asleep a couple of times trying to watch this movie.

389
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:09,040
I was tired though because I had just come after a shift and I didn't sleep well the night before.

390
00:31:09,060 --> 00:31:17,520
So the problem is I was like, I had to watch on my bed because I had already packed up my TV and my laptop, so I only had the small TV in my bedroom.

391
00:31:17,900 --> 00:31:20,520
So I was all cozy and comfy under my blanket with my cat.

392
00:31:20,940 --> 00:31:22,720
So I fell asleep a couple of times trying to watch it.

393
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,440
But it was a little dry.

394
00:31:28,460 --> 00:31:33,920
It seemed like it had this fun idea, but they tried too hard.

395
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,460
It was just, hey, we're going to try and be cool.

396
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:50,180
We want to be like this weird, initially seems like dystopian future that turns into like a utopia when women work together.

397
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,980
So it was very okay.

398
00:31:54,740 --> 00:31:56,640
I think there was some really cool fight scenes.

399
00:31:57,340 --> 00:32:01,780
And there was some really cool fight scenes.

400
00:32:02,220 --> 00:32:06,220
But like, I don't know, I think it was a little bit, it was just too much.

401
00:32:06,300 --> 00:32:12,120
It was like, it's like one of those parents that try to be hip using the lingo.

402
00:32:12,140 --> 00:32:13,060
That's what it felt like.

403
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:20,280
Like as someone who's like trying to or going to school to be a teacher, they always talk about like, oh yeah, the kids coming up with the language.

404
00:32:20,300 --> 00:32:21,780
I'm like, I just admit that I don't understand.

405
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:27,220
I don't force myself and try to make, to like sound like I understand it or I'm hip.

406
00:32:27,580 --> 00:32:28,520
But that's exactly it.

407
00:32:28,540 --> 00:32:31,280
It sounds like an adult who's trying to be hip with children.

408
00:32:31,740 --> 00:32:33,680
Like that's, this whole movie, that's how it felt.

409
00:32:34,020 --> 00:32:36,580
So it was like that cringy every time he used the word plastic.

410
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,100
Oh my God, stop now.

411
00:32:40,940 --> 00:32:43,460
Are you saying you don't have the Riz?

412
00:32:43,780 --> 00:32:44,980
I don't even know what the fuck that means.

413
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:45,880
No cap?

414
00:32:46,220 --> 00:32:49,160
No, you don't know any of that Zoom or Alpha lingo shit?

415
00:32:49,220 --> 00:32:49,520
No?

416
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,120
They said Sigma a lot.

417
00:32:52,140 --> 00:32:53,220
I was like, that's so Sigma.

418
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,160
And I just wanted to be like, hey, that's a character that I played.

419
00:32:55,180 --> 00:32:57,780
That's all I know.

420
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:02,680
I know Sigma was a name of a character in a movie that I did.

421
00:33:02,700 --> 00:33:04,360
As far as my lingo goes.

422
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:13,820
Yeah, I get, you know, you know, there's not a whole lot to say about this film, but I think that as a whole, it's kind of like, it turns into like this battle of the sexes kind of thing.

423
00:33:14,260 --> 00:33:17,580
Like we have a society of men here, because they're all men.

424
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,760
And we have a society of women here.

425
00:33:19,780 --> 00:33:20,560
They're all women.

426
00:33:20,580 --> 00:33:23,780
So, so, but one of us is right, one of us is wrong.

427
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,120
You know, one of us is going to be new with the other one.

428
00:33:26,140 --> 00:33:34,860
And the whole idea of them playing, you know, communism in the play here, and you are in 1986, I'd imagine.

429
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:43,500
They think that communism is going to stick around for a very long time and, you know, be scared of Russia and all those other stuff and whatever.

430
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,300
It's America 3000.

431
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:46,520
I don't take it too seriously.

432
00:33:46,540 --> 00:33:51,640
The stuff we'll take seriously, though, is it's not the acting that kept me in the movie.

433
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,500
It's the way it was filmed.

434
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:54,580
I think it was filmed very well.

435
00:33:56,940 --> 00:34:04,920
I think it contributed to the stunt coordinator, and the fight coordinator, who I know his name, because he's Ernie Reyes Sr.

436
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:12,360
So a lot of the hand-to-hand stuff and the kicks and stuff looked very good.

437
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:19,940
And I think he had a big hand in that because he's a great martial artist, who's of course father of Ernie Reyes Jr.

438
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:23,200
who we may know from many more things besides his father.

439
00:34:25,300 --> 00:34:30,280
But this is why I watch Serpent Ninja so much because you get to see Ernie Reyes Sr.

440
00:34:30,300 --> 00:34:31,780
fight with his son in the movie.

441
00:34:31,940 --> 00:34:32,600
And that's...

442
00:34:32,980 --> 00:34:34,300
Oh, didn't Junior do all...

443
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:35,640
You don't get to see that in any other movie.

444
00:34:35,720 --> 00:34:40,560
Didn't Junior work with all the PM Entertainment stuff?

445
00:34:40,580 --> 00:34:41,260
I think so.

446
00:34:42,220 --> 00:34:44,580
He was in Red Sonja, I know.

447
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,620
He was in Last Dragon when he was very young.

448
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:51,760
He did that TV show, I think, with Lee Van Cleef.

449
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:53,040
He was on that show.

450
00:34:53,100 --> 00:34:53,780
Oh, The Master?

451
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:55,180
Maybe it was another show.

452
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,240
Yeah, I think it was another show.

453
00:34:57,540 --> 00:34:59,140
He was on some TV show when he was very young.

454
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,340
It was his last show, right?

455
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,040
Lee Van Cleef's last thing he did before he died, The Master?

456
00:35:04,060 --> 00:35:05,820
I think so.

457
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,020
I think he may have been on that show.

458
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:08,640
I'm not 100% sure, but he was on some other...

459
00:35:08,780 --> 00:35:12,580
some show where he was a karate kicking kid on a show.

460
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,560
But it was always fun to watch him do things.

461
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:21,020
And again, I always go back to Serpent Ages because I get to see him and his father fight together.

462
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:21,920
And that's...

463
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,420
it's fun to watch where all that...

464
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:26,460
all those kicks came from.

465
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:27,300
And, you know...

466
00:35:28,420 --> 00:35:29,960
But this film itself, you know...

467
00:35:31,180 --> 00:35:32,580
You're right, though.

468
00:35:32,940 --> 00:35:38,280
All the fights and the action stuff is actually pretty top notch.

469
00:35:38,300 --> 00:35:47,400
It all looks really, really good, which makes it really stick out when comparing it to everything else that's going on in the film.

470
00:35:47,420 --> 00:35:53,640
Especially when during the action scenes, everything gets very violent, like super violent.

471
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:59,620
And then the rest of the movie is played like a comedy, which I was kind of weirded out by.

472
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,840
I was like, totally, I felt like the film was kind of everywhere.

473
00:36:02,860 --> 00:36:15,280
And also my biggest objection to this film is it's a film about sexy Amazon women who, you know, again, in the post-apocalypse have an endless supply, apparently.

474
00:36:15,300 --> 00:36:26,620
Like they found some catch of like hairspray and makeup products because they're all done up like fucking hot chicks in like a 1980s music video.

475
00:36:27,100 --> 00:36:31,400
And not at any time in this movie, do any of them get naked.

476
00:36:31,860 --> 00:36:33,880
There was no nudity that I saw.

477
00:36:34,180 --> 00:36:38,640
And I was watching pretty closely for that because I was like, come on, it's a canon film.

478
00:36:38,940 --> 00:36:40,480
It's got sexy cave women.

479
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:42,380
Well, basically cave women.

480
00:36:42,720 --> 00:36:50,580
I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if like this originally was like a caveman, cavewoman, like fucking movie that got turned into a post-apocalyptic.

481
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:56,600
But sexy fucking Amazon women tribe who keep men as sex slaves.

482
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:58,500
And yet we don't see a bit of sex.

483
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:10,560
We see a little bit of sexual tension where it's like maybe hinted that the rival Amazon tribe, you know, there's like this Amazon political thing going on that's like really boring.

484
00:37:10,940 --> 00:37:16,920
But like the bad Amazon tribe is like it's hinted that like they're all like lesbians basically or whatever.

485
00:37:16,940 --> 00:37:23,400
Because like there's some like little bit of flirtatious like, oh, the bad guys are making their plans.

486
00:37:23,420 --> 00:37:27,880
And it's like hinted like after we take over, then we'll fuck and stuff like that.

487
00:37:28,300 --> 00:37:30,280
But then they never fuck.

488
00:37:30,300 --> 00:37:32,120
So it's like no payoff.

489
00:37:33,940 --> 00:37:34,940
Lee wanted boobies.

490
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:44,420
Well, according to that one scene though, where they're like about to make out, but he doesn't know quite how to do it.

491
00:37:44,820 --> 00:37:54,640
Yeah, it's like you can tell they have been together for a long time, men and women in that way, except for of course, you know, the seeding that happens in this movie.

492
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,880
We were talking about that though.

493
00:37:58,900 --> 00:37:59,460
It's bad.

494
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:17,720
Yeah, basically we're breeding with each other forcefully and that's rape in every country, but it's in post-apocalyptic barbarian times, I guess it's just repopulating the earth, I guess.

495
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:18,460
I don't know.

496
00:38:18,540 --> 00:38:20,180
I mean, that's a canon.

497
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,120
It's gross nonetheless.

498
00:38:22,140 --> 00:38:32,720
I'm pretty sure that's like when like canon, if they had like a Bible for their films, like here's our filmmaking ethos, and this is what we think about certain subjects and certain topics.

499
00:38:33,020 --> 00:38:40,040
I'm pretty sure that like, hey, if we're going to make a feminist movie, if women force men to have sex, that's just feminism and it's not rape.

500
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:41,800
That's probably what their stance was.

501
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:48,100
I mean, I'm not going to sit here and say that Golden Globes were the most enlightened people in the world, honestly.

502
00:38:49,740 --> 00:38:55,640
Their movies, quite honestly, for the most part, pretty bad when it comes to stuff like that.

503
00:38:56,620 --> 00:39:09,100
Well, if you think of a plot in which, in Hell Comes the Frog Town, they just take old Roddy Piper back to their camp and they just fucking milk him for all of his semen until he's tired and he can't give no more.

504
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,800
Because that's not really why before was this fucking semen.

505
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:13,640
Yeah.

506
00:39:13,820 --> 00:39:17,060
You know, feminism in its finest.

507
00:39:18,660 --> 00:39:21,500
Hey, what year was Hell Comes the Frog Town?

508
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:25,240
Wasn't that like a couple years later, pretty sure?

509
00:39:27,500 --> 00:39:29,500
Right around the same time, I'd say.

510
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,560
I looked that up, you know.

511
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:35,400
I'm just going to say, I'm just going to say Hell Comes the Frog Town, you hack.

512
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,720
You ripped off America 3000.

513
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,340
All you added was giant frog people.

514
00:39:42,380 --> 00:39:55,360
Yeah, so they are delightful and out of place in that movie, but he did go to Frog Town and Rory Calhoun is there and Sandal Birdman is there.

515
00:39:56,100 --> 00:39:58,320
I will say there's no movie.

516
00:39:58,340 --> 00:39:59,040
Yes, indeed.

517
00:39:59,060 --> 00:40:01,280
There's no nudity in that movie either, is there?

518
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:02,420
I seem to recall.

519
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:13,040
No, but she was trying to get it, you know, in her undies, but, you know, he wasn't willing because he was kidnapped, you know, and was under false pretenses.

520
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:15,160
Yeah.

521
00:40:15,180 --> 00:40:16,640
So this is given.

522
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,780
Yeah, these are just examples of like movie makers not reading their audience.

523
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:24,420
You know, more nudity in this movie, it probably would have been way better.

524
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:31,900
Sure, because that movie that we watched totally proved otherwise, by the way, just saying.

525
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:37,960
The men who play, men who play whatever, men who play ding-dongs and then something, something.

526
00:40:37,980 --> 00:40:43,380
Well, that was an example of a movie being so bad that the nudity couldn't save it.

527
00:40:46,500 --> 00:40:53,660
Plus the nudity and that one was like mostly a far away shot of like the women bathing on the mountainside or whatever the fuck it was.

528
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,680
It wasn't even like any close up or any sex scenes or anything like that.

529
00:40:57,700 --> 00:41:01,400
So it's like a sex comedy without any close up nudity.

530
00:41:01,420 --> 00:41:02,180
What's the point?

531
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,540
What is the point?

532
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:08,080
This was fun enough for me.

533
00:41:08,100 --> 00:41:14,940
Like I said, the action held together, the stuff in between like you guys mentioned that didn't work so well.

534
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:30,000
I think America 3000 with better actors, I think a tighter script would work a lot better because they had a lot of the right key points in there.

535
00:41:30,020 --> 00:41:30,800
I'm looking for the word.

536
00:41:30,820 --> 00:41:31,660
I can't find the word.

537
00:41:32,060 --> 00:41:35,780
But it held together.

538
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,960
I would say it has a beginning and a middle and an end.

539
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,060
I can say I have watched.

540
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:47,440
It was.

541
00:41:48,020 --> 00:41:49,000
I'll say this for it.

542
00:41:49,020 --> 00:41:52,380
It was a series of moving pictures at 24 frames a second.

543
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,920
So in that regard, it was definitely a movie.

544
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:06,600
You could watch other ones of these though and say, I didn't have a good time with it because the plot is literally worse in the fact that it's all over the place.

545
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:10,500
And the fight looks really shitty.

546
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:19,820
I mean, I love Lance Henriksen, but there's a film called Savage Dawn that features him, George Kennedy and Karen Black.

547
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:26,280
I forget who else, but he is doing some terrible white guy kung fu in that movie that these go away somewhere.

548
00:42:26,300 --> 00:42:28,260
It's just locked in the vault somewhere.

549
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:36,420
And it looks real bad, but this film, I was going to say, I could appreciate a boombox that just never loses its energy.

550
00:42:41,240 --> 00:42:43,420
And there's some good batteries.

551
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:51,280
And a variety of cassettes that they had that somehow had a crazy variety of music.

552
00:42:54,240 --> 00:43:06,280
But I mean, honestly, I was just going to say, honestly, the biggest problem with this film is, aside from the lack of nudity, it is that slang.

553
00:43:06,780 --> 00:43:09,200
It is that fucking narration.

554
00:43:09,380 --> 00:43:10,960
It is that fucking narration, too.

555
00:43:11,140 --> 00:43:12,340
Did not need the narration.

556
00:43:12,820 --> 00:43:14,400
The narration I thought was really boring.

557
00:43:14,700 --> 00:43:20,980
I thought it took away because I thought the person who was doing the narrating read it at a very lackluster level.

558
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:26,860
I thought I was watching like post-apocalyptic wonder years or some bullshit.

559
00:43:28,460 --> 00:43:31,600
I was expecting it to be like Daniel Stern.

560
00:43:32,100 --> 00:43:35,040
That's when I met Winnie Cooper and she was in Amazon.

561
00:43:36,540 --> 00:43:39,340
I did not need that in this film.

562
00:43:40,180 --> 00:43:42,280
That's a big problem with a lot of these films.

563
00:43:42,660 --> 00:43:48,020
If you go into a post-apocalyptic movie, you know what the situation is.

564
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:54,320
You can organically do any story beats with the characters as they go through the script, as they act.

565
00:43:54,340 --> 00:43:56,580
You don't need to set up a narration.

566
00:43:56,600 --> 00:44:00,420
You don't need to talk about the oil wars or whatever bullshit.

567
00:44:00,860 --> 00:44:01,820
You already know.

568
00:44:05,240 --> 00:44:05,680
Shut up.

569
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:10,520
Everyone knows what fucking these movies are.

570
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:12,220
You don't need to explain them.

571
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,840
I think Cannon was trying too hard, like Lee was saying.

572
00:44:17,740 --> 00:44:26,420
Like they were just like too over-zoomer, too ambitious, a little too like, we need to explain everything when you didn't.

573
00:44:26,780 --> 00:44:28,100
You just need to put boobies in it.

574
00:44:28,100 --> 00:44:29,140
That's all you need to do.

575
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,100
You could have cut all this other unnecessary shit out of it.

576
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:35,180
But Lee, I am man.

577
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,080
I am man.

578
00:44:37,860 --> 00:44:38,700
You are woman.

579
00:44:41,060 --> 00:44:41,420
Sure.

580
00:44:42,620 --> 00:44:44,000
That's how peace is created.

581
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:49,780
Because the end is an ABC alphabet book that you find in the post-apocalyptic world.

582
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:50,920
It will bring peace.

583
00:44:51,420 --> 00:44:55,000
That's the end.

584
00:44:55,260 --> 00:44:56,700
Me, Carza, and you, Jane?

585
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:57,680
Yeah.

586
00:44:58,220 --> 00:45:00,880
Oh, Lee, you know what the fuck?

587
00:45:00,900 --> 00:45:03,120
And Gary won't get this because he hasn't played the games.

588
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,200
But you know what that book reminded me of?

589
00:45:06,060 --> 00:45:09,760
It reminds me of like Fallout New Vegas where...

590
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,800
Or actually, it's in Fallout 3, too, I believe, and Fallout 4.

591
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:19,060
Like, where you read the little book, the little kid's book, and it gives you your skills.

592
00:45:20,100 --> 00:45:21,360
It levels up your skills.

593
00:45:21,380 --> 00:45:23,520
It miraculously levels up your skills.

594
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:29,240
It miraculously levels up this dude's speech, where he can now speak perfect English and like...

595
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,340
Totally understand everything.

596
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,340
He understands how to use a gun.

597
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,120
He's like, oh yeah, I read that ABC book.

598
00:45:37,260 --> 00:45:44,200
I can read this incredibly complicated manual that has different languages, and I don't understand that there's such thing as different languages.

599
00:45:44,980 --> 00:45:45,300
Yeah.

600
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,960
And it sounds like I'm like really shitting on this movie.

601
00:45:49,020 --> 00:45:50,240
I'm just kind of like...

602
00:45:50,260 --> 00:45:56,680
I'm kind of like puffing it up a little bit for entertainment value, but...

603
00:45:56,700 --> 00:45:58,360
The dialogue has to...

604
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:00,620
No, go ahead, go ahead.

605
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,700
No, I said dialogue has got to go, like you guys mentioned before.

606
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:08,360
It's not like Clockwork Orange to where they created their own language.

607
00:46:08,740 --> 00:46:10,980
He created the language in the book actually that the author.

608
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:11,640
Yes.

609
00:46:11,780 --> 00:46:15,460
And you know, it works because of the visuals you have on screen.

610
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:20,820
It doesn't matter if you don't know what the fuck Alex DeLarge is saying to his friends.

611
00:46:21,900 --> 00:46:31,700
With the visuals, you get the idea when he goes to two young new bottle girls in the record store and he says, hey, what do you got to play your fuzzy warbles on?

612
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,780
That's his way of saying, hey, go back to my place and fuck.

613
00:46:35,180 --> 00:46:36,100
You get that.

614
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:36,780
Yes.

615
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:38,560
That's by the way he's acting in that movie.

616
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:43,820
And also, also Clockwork Orange, there's way more world building in that.

617
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:52,820
And that's why the language stuff and the slang and the gang culture and all that shit works better in Clockwork Orange because there's world building there.

618
00:46:53,020 --> 00:46:55,060
There's no world building in this movie.

619
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,080
The world is already pre-built.

620
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,920
Like I said, everyone knows what these movies are.

621
00:47:00,020 --> 00:47:02,460
Everyone knows exactly what they're getting into.

622
00:47:02,820 --> 00:47:05,860
You add extra shit like slang and crap like that.

623
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:07,780
It just confuses the audience.

624
00:47:08,500 --> 00:47:09,180
You don't need it.

625
00:47:09,180 --> 00:47:10,240
It's so plastic.

626
00:47:10,620 --> 00:47:11,500
You're plastic.

627
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:17,520
They saw those kids doing it in Mad Max Beyond Thunderdomes.

628
00:47:17,540 --> 00:47:18,940
I guess they figured it was okay.

629
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:21,860
Yeah, that's the thing.

630
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:33,400
I feel like Thunderdome came out just before this, it must have, because that shit's obviously written into that after Mad Max Thunderdome.

631
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:34,360
It had to have been.

632
00:47:34,660 --> 00:47:35,480
When was Thunderdome?

633
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:37,240
Thunderdome was 85?

634
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:38,580
Sure.

635
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:40,280
Sounds right, yeah.

636
00:47:41,620 --> 00:47:44,380
I got to double check this shit.

637
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,840
You have to watch Thunderdome now, Lady Lee, because it's wonderful.

638
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:50,200
You've seen Thunderdome, haven't you, Lee?

639
00:47:50,220 --> 00:47:51,680
I've seen Thunderdome.

640
00:47:51,700 --> 00:47:53,940
I'm pretty sure I've seen Thunderdome.

641
00:47:54,220 --> 00:47:56,320
I'm pretty sure I have seen Thunderdome.

642
00:47:56,340 --> 00:47:56,860
There you go.

643
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:58,460
Yeah, 85.

644
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:08,920
So, yes, obviously, Golden Globe is like, hey, Engel Dink or whatever this guy's name is who directed this, Engel Bach, do you have any scripts that we can make into a movie?

645
00:48:09,020 --> 00:48:13,080
I have this one that's like Stone Age Cave people, Battle of the Sexes.

646
00:48:13,100 --> 00:48:13,780
Oh, that's fun.

647
00:48:14,140 --> 00:48:15,520
Let's put Mad Max into that.

648
00:48:15,540 --> 00:48:18,620
Let's put Thunderdome because I just saw Thunderdome and Thunderdome is popular.

649
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,180
So that feels like exactly what this is.

650
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:22,000
And oh, yeah.

651
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:25,080
And a guy in an ape suit.

652
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:32,600
Hey, the part where R was deodorant is one of the funniest things I've seen in a movie in my life.

653
00:48:33,060 --> 00:48:34,980
He's just so happy, you know.

654
00:48:35,380 --> 00:48:36,640
He definitely loved that boombox.

655
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:37,420
Yeah.

656
00:48:37,540 --> 00:48:42,460
Well, if you put a random guy in an ape suit in a movie, I'm probably going to be there for it.

657
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:43,600
I'm just going to say it.

658
00:48:43,720 --> 00:48:45,720
You know, it wasn't a bad ape suit.

659
00:48:45,740 --> 00:48:47,200
I watched what I watched.

660
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:49,320
It was a Frank internet movie.

661
00:48:49,780 --> 00:48:50,820
Was it Bikini Beach?

662
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:59,040
Bikini Beach, I think it was, where Keenan Wynn was trying to prove that a learned gorilla is smarter than the teenagers.

663
00:48:59,620 --> 00:49:03,240
So you had a guy in a gorilla suit surfing.

664
00:49:04,060 --> 00:49:04,680
You know what?

665
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:06,300
I was there for it, man.

666
00:49:08,860 --> 00:49:13,080
But the beach party movies have something going on that this movie doesn't have.

667
00:49:13,100 --> 00:49:13,600
They're fun.

668
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,580
That's the big difference.

669
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:18,940
The gorilla?

670
00:49:19,980 --> 00:49:24,800
The man kind of made me laugh because he found the deodorant and knew what to do with it.

671
00:49:25,240 --> 00:49:27,120
He's like, I understand that I'm stinky.

672
00:49:27,140 --> 00:49:28,860
I need to put this under my armpits.

673
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:29,440
Yeah.

674
00:49:29,460 --> 00:49:33,620
Even though he's like, asks what they're doing is covering up his style, not washing, but whatever.

675
00:49:35,660 --> 00:49:37,520
I don't think anyone's going to notice.

676
00:49:37,540 --> 00:49:41,540
Showering does not, I mean, deodorant does not replace showering.

677
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:43,960
It's a very important message to everybody out there.

678
00:49:44,460 --> 00:49:46,900
Yeah, I'll use Zoomers out there to say it.

679
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:51,500
And millennials and whatever else, every fucking human being out there.

680
00:49:51,980 --> 00:49:54,780
Not just the generations that have come after my generation.

681
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:55,860
You kidding me?

682
00:49:56,300 --> 00:49:56,580
No.

683
00:49:57,260 --> 00:49:59,420
Gen X cleanest generation.

684
00:50:00,860 --> 00:50:02,420
Aquin is real too, people.

685
00:50:02,780 --> 00:50:05,720
Even in a post-apocalyptic world.

686
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:07,920
Oh my God.

687
00:50:07,940 --> 00:50:10,900
A fucking nuclear blast couldn't knock those hairdos down, dude.

688
00:50:11,580 --> 00:50:32,680
Okay, I do have to say though, their hairdos are somewhat realistic, it's easier to elevate, so truthfully, that was more messy, post-apocalyptic hair looks than the long hair that looks sleek and perfect.

689
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:44,260
So I can leave those hairdos because when your hair is all gross and disgusting and whatever, it's so much easier to style and work with.

690
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:57,540
When the bombs fell, finally fall, Lee, and we both survive, I'm looking forward to about three months in the post-apocalypse when your hair looks like you're a backup dancer for a Motley Crue video in the 80s.

691
00:50:58,140 --> 00:51:03,300
Most likely, versus the usual you see with the hair that's just down and looks really pretty.

692
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,860
Yeah, it's a lot more believable.

693
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:18,600
I'm not saying we'd be perfectly up like that, but definitely a lot more believable, like just realistically be entirely matted and disgusting, which agreed, I mean accepted that I will not survive.

694
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:29,520
I am a nearsighted person who's almost passing my prime as a female, so my ovaries are useless and my genetics are useless.

695
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:32,300
So why would people want to reproduce with me anyway?

696
00:51:35,740 --> 00:51:38,720
Survivalistically, if you're joined by genes, it would be a dumb choice.

697
00:51:39,340 --> 00:51:47,620
Well, ovaries aside, I'm sure, you know, I don't want to talk about how fertile.

698
00:52:02,300 --> 00:52:03,280
Only if it's post-pocalyptic.

699
00:52:03,300 --> 00:52:04,400
I love the things that I have.

700
00:52:04,420 --> 00:52:06,100
I don't want to re-learn how to live.

701
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:12,940
So I think I would just enjoy the rest of my life as much as I could and be like, I'm good, I'm not going to try and survive.

702
00:52:14,940 --> 00:52:18,040
I've watched Survivor Man, I know how to boil my own pee and drink it.

703
00:52:18,460 --> 00:52:20,120
I watched it too and I had no interest.

704
00:52:20,660 --> 00:52:24,380
None of those people looked happy during the process of trying to survive.

705
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:30,580
So I'm very happy with just enjoying what little life I would have left instead of being miserable and the rest of my life.

706
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:32,020
Yeah, no, you're right.

707
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:35,040
I'd leave the world to, I'd hope I'd die right away.

708
00:52:35,060 --> 00:52:40,500
So we can just leave the world to the preppers and have them die within about three or four months because they're all failures too.

709
00:52:40,980 --> 00:52:41,640
Exactly.

710
00:52:41,660 --> 00:52:50,540
All right, I'm going to wrap this here and I'm going to ask the lady, anything else you'd like to say about America 3000?

711
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,020
I think I said what I need to say.

712
00:52:54,040 --> 00:53:01,940
I guess I saw it as like, I don't know, it's one of those movies where they always like tell you like, oh, but you do need men.

713
00:53:02,420 --> 00:53:03,540
You can't hate men.

714
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:05,280
How dare you hate men?

715
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:07,280
And that's just kind of how I felt with this one.

716
00:53:07,420 --> 00:53:12,860
It just, like, just, they seem to just, I don't know.

717
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:18,840
It was like this show of like, why feminists are bad, because you have to have men.

718
00:53:19,380 --> 00:53:24,300
And if you have women that are anti-men, they just go against each other and go against men.

719
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:25,020
Anyway, it doesn't matter.

720
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:26,600
Either way, wasn't a huge fan.

721
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:27,760
Fair enough.

722
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:30,960
Surely, my brother, we think.

723
00:53:33,500 --> 00:54:14,480
If you're interested in endless narration, if you're interested in a bunch of hapless men building the worst base they could hope to build out of like, old ammo boxes and pipes stacked in a way that are made to obviously fall over instantly if the female tribe attacks, if you like post-apocalyptic women with really teased up hairsprayed hair and makeup without a smudge of dirt on them, who don't get naked at all in the film when they should, this might be the movie for you.

724
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:16,280
It was not for me.

725
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:35,520
I didn't hate it, but it was just like when you're rating this as far as like the post-apocalyptic stuff that came out in the 80s, this is like a sub tier, like Mad Max ripoff that's been kind of, you know, something else that's been recycled into a Mad Max ripoff and it's not a great one.

726
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:41,140
It doesn't know whether it wants to be a comedy or wants to be a serious movie because the action stuff is really good.

727
00:54:41,300 --> 00:54:56,060
Like honestly, it is really, really good and it needed more of that but the tone of the rest of the movie is like dynamically opposed to the viciousness and the actual action scenes but it's not a terrible watch.

728
00:54:56,080 --> 00:55:13,680
It's just like one that's so scatterbrained and weird narration and bad slang and the guy in the ape suit doesn't get to do anything really cool other than hold a boombox and throw a person around into like a pit at one point and that was kind of funny but yeah, no I can't recommend it.

729
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:23,720
I'd say it's like if you're completest of like these 1980s post-apocalyptic stuff, then definitely see it but otherwise you could skip it, honestly.

730
00:55:23,740 --> 00:55:25,580
Yeah, I liked it for what it was.

731
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:27,340
It wasn't the best thing to watch all week.

732
00:55:27,720 --> 00:55:29,640
Like I said, yeah, there's been worse ones of these.

733
00:55:29,660 --> 00:55:31,360
I think we kept you in it.

734
00:55:31,580 --> 00:55:37,780
It was the great fight choreography in the action scenes, right down to the horse, the way they're riding the horses.

735
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:41,020
You can tell they're properly trained how to ride these horses.

736
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:43,120
They look like, you know, look like shit.

737
00:55:43,460 --> 00:55:50,560
But yeah, as a whole in the film, you know, guy in Ape Suicide, it was, it wasn't the best one of these.

738
00:55:50,580 --> 00:55:53,180
It borrowed a lot from other things, like Lee said.

739
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:57,560
But I would give it a recommend for a Tubi watch.

740
00:55:57,580 --> 00:55:59,920
It's on Tubi right now to check out.

741
00:55:59,940 --> 00:56:05,980
Does it deserve all the slander it got in the Electric Boogaloo documentary?

742
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:07,080
I don't think so.

743
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:11,120
It's just not, it's just not good.

744
00:56:11,140 --> 00:56:12,860
And the parts needs to be really, really good.

745
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:18,120
Like we mentioned, didn't know if it wanted to be a comedy or not.

746
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:19,540
There's a way to do that.

747
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:28,960
And they did another canon film, the Alan Corman movies, to where you were able to have this action adventure movie and with some comedy thrown in.

748
00:56:28,980 --> 00:56:31,820
And it worked a lot better than this movie.

749
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:34,280
But yeah, that's about it for this.

750
00:56:35,180 --> 00:56:39,000
Next up, we're going to join the Bim Revolution people.

751
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:44,220
And we're going to discuss The Apple from the Year of My Birth 1980 right after this trailer.

752
00:56:51,420 --> 00:56:55,320
In 1994, the world is controlled by one power.

753
00:57:10,140 --> 00:57:12,160
The Apple is success.

754
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:38,900
I want you to release Bibi from her contract.

755
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:42,840
Where is she?

756
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:00,340
The apple is the temptation.

757
00:58:04,140 --> 00:58:06,320
The apple is the experience.

758
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:22,940
The apple is the forbidden fruit.

759
00:59:19,559 --> 00:59:23,759
Now, a special experience in movie-going entertainment, The Apple.

760
00:59:31,013 --> 00:59:32,953
The Apple, from 1980.

761
00:59:33,613 --> 00:59:35,213
Your plot synopsis is this.

762
00:59:35,813 --> 00:59:41,933
In 1994, a young couple enters the world of music, of the music industry, and subsequently the world of drugs.

763
00:59:42,393 --> 00:59:46,833
That's not really fair, but yeah.

764
00:59:46,973 --> 01:00:09,213
This is written and mostly, it's directed and mostly written by Menachem Golan, the man himself, the stars, the still beautiful Catherine Mary Stewart as Bibi, George Gilmore, I'm sorry, you may know her from None of the Comet, the underrated punk comedy, Western Dudes, if you check that out, but maybe one day.

765
01:00:10,453 --> 01:00:13,053
She's in a bunch of, Last Starfighter, she's in some good stuff.

766
01:00:13,393 --> 01:00:14,733
Yeah, Beach Girl, Weekend of the Mornings.

767
01:00:14,753 --> 01:00:18,753
George Gilmore as her, yes, there's a lot of good stuff.

768
01:00:19,573 --> 01:00:20,993
George Gilmore as Alfie.

769
01:00:22,453 --> 01:00:25,733
I should say that a lot of these guys didn't do anything much past The Apple.

770
01:00:26,173 --> 01:00:29,413
And he's one of those folks that didn't do anything past The Apple.

771
01:00:29,593 --> 01:00:39,513
Yeah, Gilmore was, he was in a Scottish rock group, the Bow Weevils, like he was just brought in because he was a singer, I guess, more than anything else.

772
01:00:39,533 --> 01:00:43,033
Like he did theater work, but he didn't really have a movie career.

773
01:00:44,213 --> 01:00:47,653
Yeah, Grace Kennedy as Pandy.

774
01:00:47,673 --> 01:00:51,633
I like that character quite a bit because she, y'all get into it.

775
01:00:57,853 --> 01:00:58,573
I'm sorry to interrupt.

776
01:00:58,593 --> 01:00:58,933
Did you?

777
01:00:58,953 --> 01:00:59,453
I did not.

778
01:00:59,633 --> 01:01:00,273
Do you recognize?

779
01:01:00,353 --> 01:01:01,413
Okay, Alan Love.

780
01:01:01,813 --> 01:01:04,893
I was looking at him and it's like, I know this guy from somewhere.

781
01:01:05,333 --> 01:01:09,613
And so then I checked his IMDB and it's like, oh, I know where I know him from.

782
01:01:09,613 --> 01:01:18,273
He was in an episode of Kitchen Nightmares because he went on to open a restaurant that was failing called Love's Fish Restaurant.

783
01:01:18,633 --> 01:01:22,973
And Gordon Ramsay quote unquote saved it until of course it went out of business a few years later.

784
01:01:22,993 --> 01:01:24,893
But he was this-

785
01:01:25,093 --> 01:01:26,093
Oh yeah.

786
01:01:26,193 --> 01:01:32,093
At the point of his restaurant, he was this like out of touch guy who owned a fish restaurant who didn't eat fish.

787
01:01:32,773 --> 01:01:35,313
So that tells you right there how good that was gonna go.

788
01:01:35,693 --> 01:01:38,013
But yeah.

789
01:01:40,573 --> 01:01:42,573
Apparently he played himself in Rockula.

790
01:01:43,313 --> 01:01:44,033
Oh really, okay.

791
01:01:44,173 --> 01:01:49,693
So yeah, starting to grow the great Dean Cameron in Rockula.

792
01:01:50,853 --> 01:01:57,313
Vladik Shabal as Bugolo, the evil record producer.

793
01:01:57,333 --> 01:02:02,993
Wasn't some stuff, some stuff, please probably seen from Russia With Love.

794
01:02:03,013 --> 01:02:05,193
He was in that for a hot second.

795
01:02:05,533 --> 01:02:11,053
Yeah, he's the chess master from Russia With Love.

796
01:02:12,933 --> 01:02:14,413
Yeah, the Russian chess guy.

797
01:02:14,813 --> 01:02:16,673
He's in a shit ton.

798
01:02:16,693 --> 01:02:21,693
He's probably the most like seasoned actor in this because he's in that.

799
01:02:21,713 --> 01:02:28,653
He's in the original Shogun mini series with Richard Chamberlain.

800
01:02:28,793 --> 01:02:29,853
He's in Red Dawn.

801
01:02:31,013 --> 01:02:33,033
He was in stuff like The Fearless Vampire Killers.

802
01:02:33,053 --> 01:02:34,133
Like look at his credits.

803
01:02:34,153 --> 01:02:34,873
It's crazy.

804
01:02:34,893 --> 01:02:36,193
There's tons of shit he was in.

805
01:02:39,213 --> 01:02:40,793
Yeah, Josh Ackland is Mr.

806
01:02:40,813 --> 01:02:41,253
Topps.

807
01:02:41,813 --> 01:02:43,133
You know who Josh Ackland is.

808
01:02:43,573 --> 01:02:44,493
You probably do.

809
01:02:44,693 --> 01:02:53,933
He introduced to me as Hans from The Mighty Ducks, the guy that was a skate shop, but also played the bad guy in The Weapon 2.

810
01:02:54,633 --> 01:02:57,393
Diplomatic community, that guy.

811
01:02:57,413 --> 01:03:04,273
And Denomalous, the evil bad, gym teacher bad guy from Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey.

812
01:03:04,853 --> 01:03:06,393
He's hunt for red October.

813
01:03:06,413 --> 01:03:09,233
He's been tons of stuff over the years, Josh Ackerman.

814
01:03:09,253 --> 01:03:10,933
Just lost him recently, I think.

815
01:03:11,253 --> 01:03:12,693
Not many years ago.

816
01:03:12,713 --> 01:03:17,133
Ray Shell, who is an actor.

817
01:03:17,153 --> 01:03:18,513
I like to find more stuff that he's in.

818
01:03:18,673 --> 01:03:20,413
He's in Velvet Goldmine, apparently.

819
01:03:20,433 --> 01:03:21,393
I've seen that film.

820
01:03:22,813 --> 01:03:23,973
Didn't do a ton.

821
01:03:25,233 --> 01:03:31,653
Last thing he did was in 2021, the United States versus Billie Holiday, which I've seen that before.

822
01:03:31,673 --> 01:03:38,313
I did look for this person though, but he plays like the number two to Boogaloo, a man called Shake.

823
01:03:39,173 --> 01:03:45,093
Miriam Margolis, who's been in tons of stuff over the years, plays Alfie's landlady in this movie.

824
01:03:45,113 --> 01:03:46,613
She shows up in different parts.

825
01:03:48,473 --> 01:03:53,693
I love the fact that there's these dog face people in this movie that are like the muscle for Boogaloo.

826
01:03:54,413 --> 01:04:02,733
Dared Dead Man playing Bulldog, and Gunther Notham as Fat Dog, our fanged muscle in this movie.

827
01:04:06,073 --> 01:04:08,193
There's more, there's a lot to unpack in this movie.

828
01:04:08,213 --> 01:04:16,533
The story goes that Menachem wanted to make his version of Ken Russell's Tommy, and this is what he got.

829
01:04:17,113 --> 01:04:21,613
And I'm not too mad at this movie in most ways.

830
01:04:21,973 --> 01:04:34,573
So first time watch for me, I will say that, because I've always had the reputation, never watched a movie, but I'm gonna kick it to our male friendly first and say, Lee, what do you think of The Apple?

831
01:04:35,413 --> 01:04:41,273
I think it was a valiant try by Golan Globus.

832
01:04:41,653 --> 01:05:02,153
This is what, like, you hear stories like how, I don't know how much truth there is to this, but like initially when this was first released and it was kind of laughed out at theaters and stuff like that, that Globus was almost like ready to kill himself over what a failure this ended up being.

833
01:05:02,553 --> 01:05:10,233
Like it does feel like it was a legit passion project for him because there's a lot of really good work in this film.

834
01:05:10,253 --> 01:05:14,873
Like there's a lot to this film that you don't expect from a canon produced thing.

835
01:05:16,373 --> 01:05:23,913
It's very, I think on the downside of this, it's very derivative of better films that do the same thing.

836
01:05:23,933 --> 01:05:33,073
I find this way more enjoyable than like say, Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Heart Club Band, which I feel is also quite similar to this.

837
01:05:33,413 --> 01:05:35,053
It's definitely not better than Tommy.

838
01:05:35,073 --> 01:05:38,613
Tommy is probably the king of these sort of things at this period.

839
01:05:39,673 --> 01:05:46,273
But this feels like more of a mashup of Phantom of the Paradise and Rock and Rule to me.

840
01:05:47,153 --> 01:05:56,453
Just the way it looks, the way it flows, feels very much like those two stories, like elements of those two stories is put together in one movie.

841
01:05:58,053 --> 01:06:06,193
I feel like Phantom of the Paradise and Rock and Rule do it way better, but I think this is pretty fun for what it is.

842
01:06:06,353 --> 01:06:09,393
It's the story is all over the fucking place.

843
01:06:09,413 --> 01:06:17,273
Like I think the biggest problem is our leads are just fucking sad sacks that are not interesting.

844
01:06:18,113 --> 01:06:26,673
Like as much as I like Katherine Mary Stewart, I don't think she does much in this film to endear herself as an interesting lead.

845
01:06:27,253 --> 01:06:34,173
I feel like fucking George Gilmore is just a cute guy of an accent.

846
01:06:34,233 --> 01:06:37,053
That's more likely than he is.

847
01:06:37,533 --> 01:06:38,813
And their music sucks.

848
01:06:39,113 --> 01:06:41,213
Like their music sucks.

849
01:06:41,473 --> 01:06:48,793
And this whole story is about like them like changing and you know, selling out basically.

850
01:06:48,813 --> 01:06:55,953
Like the whole story is like she sells out to become popular and he stays true to his sappy love ballots that are really terrible.

851
01:06:57,393 --> 01:07:05,273
And you know, if he was actually a good musician and the songs were good, that would make this story a lot stronger, but he is terrible.

852
01:07:05,273 --> 01:07:07,193
His songs are terrible.

853
01:07:07,673 --> 01:07:18,393
And even when fucking Catherine Mary Stewart switches to like this more slutty ish pop star, her songs still aren't all that much better, honestly.

854
01:07:18,413 --> 01:07:29,553
They're kind of like subpar, like rock stuff from Phantom of the Paradise, like something that one of the bands in Phantom of the Paradise would do as a B-side and not mention ever again.

855
01:07:30,893 --> 01:07:37,513
But the real joy here is Vladik Shabal as Mr.

856
01:07:37,553 --> 01:07:38,193
Boogaloo.

857
01:07:38,213 --> 01:07:41,173
His fucking character is great.

858
01:07:41,193 --> 01:07:47,033
And he just acts up a storm and he just acts like around everybody and like steals every scene he's in.

859
01:07:47,793 --> 01:07:56,293
And that kind of saves the movie for me because I don't like musicals where like they just break in the song without any real reason.

860
01:07:56,793 --> 01:07:58,913
And they do that quite often in this.

861
01:07:58,913 --> 01:08:03,993
And a lot of the songs aren't all that good, even though they do like every style available.

862
01:08:04,013 --> 01:08:20,533
Like there's like fucking, there's like ballads, there's rock, there's disco, there's tap dancing, there's reggae at one point, not all of it fucking lands, but like the good performances in this kind of save it.

863
01:08:21,133 --> 01:08:25,173
And also I kind of appreciate how fucking gay this movie is.

864
01:08:25,533 --> 01:08:31,013
Like it's so incredibly flamboyantly gay and it's not a shame to be that way.

865
01:08:31,453 --> 01:08:39,093
Like it's just very openly, like we're vibing on like how fucking spectacular we are.

866
01:08:39,353 --> 01:08:43,493
Like there's the like the sidekick, the Mr.

867
01:08:43,513 --> 01:08:49,393
Boogaloo, who's got like the fucking glitter lipstick and glitter eye shadow and shit like that.

868
01:08:49,413 --> 01:08:53,253
And just running around with that shit on, it's like gay or straight.

869
01:08:53,513 --> 01:09:03,153
If you're that dedicated to wearing glitter, I got to like that, I got to give you some credit because that must have been terrible to like out of your clothes and off your body, like months and-

870
01:09:06,253 --> 01:09:08,193
That's just fucking-

871
01:09:08,213 --> 01:09:09,113
It's not that difficult.

872
01:09:09,993 --> 01:09:10,813
It wasn't that much.

873
01:09:11,873 --> 01:09:16,473
I don't know, this guy was like 50% glitter in this movie.

874
01:09:16,933 --> 01:09:19,013
I think I wear more on a Saturday night than he did.

875
01:09:20,693 --> 01:09:23,373
Okay, stop bragging, enough Lee.

876
01:09:23,873 --> 01:09:29,373
But yeah, no, I kind of really enjoyed a lot of this.

877
01:09:29,633 --> 01:09:42,053
I feel like maybe it could have cut a few musical numbers and it needed better leads, but for the most part, this does not match the reputation it gets as like one of the worst movies of all time.

878
01:09:42,453 --> 01:09:46,733
It's like, brother, I just saw America 3000 and that was way worse than The Apple.

879
01:09:47,153 --> 01:09:53,073
So like, let's just like slow your roll a little bit before you start mouthing off about The Apple, okay?

880
01:09:53,993 --> 01:09:54,433
That's it.

881
01:09:55,173 --> 01:09:57,113
Let's go to your initial thoughts there.

882
01:10:00,033 --> 01:10:03,193
I think Lee enjoyed it a lot more than I did.

883
01:10:04,093 --> 01:10:05,393
I gotta say, it was really boring.

884
01:10:06,173 --> 01:10:11,773
The first 10 minutes, the first 10 minutes I was like, oh, hey, I kinda like this.

885
01:10:11,793 --> 01:10:17,853
It's got this whole weird, like, what's the word for it?

886
01:10:19,033 --> 01:10:20,453
Oh my God, I can't think of the word now.

887
01:10:20,473 --> 01:10:25,893
Anyways, it has this play on with the not caring about gender.

888
01:10:25,913 --> 01:10:28,093
You just do what you want and you really don't care.

889
01:10:28,113 --> 01:10:29,953
And I always love that.

890
01:10:30,013 --> 01:10:31,033
That's a big thing.

891
01:10:31,053 --> 01:10:34,513
And I was joking, I messaged Lee, I'd be like, total recall you have.

892
01:10:34,733 --> 01:10:38,693
Because the main guy totally reminded me of the main guy in total recall.

893
01:10:38,713 --> 01:10:51,213
Yeah, so when I was watching it, I kind of got the sense, for whatever reason, I don't know if it was the songs, I don't know how it was, but it felt to me like it was trying too hard.

894
01:10:51,233 --> 01:10:57,033
Because yeah, I was trying too hard because it reminded me of androgynous.

895
01:10:57,053 --> 01:10:59,273
My God, that's what I was thinking of androgynous.

896
01:10:59,513 --> 01:11:01,573
There was a lot of androgyny in this movie and I enjoyed that.

897
01:11:02,993 --> 01:11:05,533
Anyways, it reminded me of Rocky Horror Picture Show for whatever reason.

898
01:11:05,633 --> 01:11:06,373
I don't know why.

899
01:11:06,393 --> 01:11:07,353
Oh no, yeah.

900
01:11:07,373 --> 01:11:10,133
It's also very much in the same vein as that.

901
01:11:10,493 --> 01:11:13,493
But the problem is like Rocky Horror Picture Show was very much classic.

902
01:11:15,133 --> 01:11:17,493
Say when you mentioned Tommy was very much classic.

903
01:11:17,513 --> 01:11:25,993
I think this one was just trying to run on the coattails of some other amazing musicals, while this one just, I don't know.

904
01:11:26,833 --> 01:11:31,253
I think they tried to have an idea about the god and the devil fighting against each other.

905
01:11:31,513 --> 01:11:35,253
But my issue was that there was no plot against the devil.

906
01:11:35,753 --> 01:11:38,173
There was no real reason why you should hate the devil.

907
01:11:38,193 --> 01:11:44,793
Yeah, he was, and I don't understand why people, there wasn't a reason for them to be miserable, right?

908
01:11:44,853 --> 01:11:45,753
It wasn't a forced haunt.

909
01:11:45,893 --> 01:11:48,153
There wasn't anything that was built on that.

910
01:11:48,673 --> 01:11:52,073
This almost reminds me of the documentary Wild Wild Country.

911
01:11:52,093 --> 01:11:56,073
The whole town was against the Russianish, even though they worked very well together.

912
01:11:56,333 --> 01:11:57,513
Yes, they knew it was a cult.

913
01:11:57,533 --> 01:11:58,773
Yes, they knew all that kind of stuff.

914
01:11:58,953 --> 01:12:03,413
But the thing is, they actually worked really well together to create this community that helped each other out.

915
01:12:04,053 --> 01:12:07,253
And they got hated on because it was a mockery of God, essentially.

916
01:12:07,693 --> 01:12:14,393
This is kind of that side it reminds me of, where God comes to save the day to bring the modern thing, but there was, I don't know what he was being saved from.

917
01:12:14,813 --> 01:12:16,453
I don't see...

918
01:12:17,233 --> 01:12:17,733
You're right.

919
01:12:17,753 --> 01:12:24,933
He's not, I mean, he's supposed to represent the devil, but he's not depicted as being like super evil.

920
01:12:24,953 --> 01:12:32,373
He's kind of a shrewd businessman, and he's kind of like, you know, as about as crooked as any like record producer of the time.

921
01:12:32,873 --> 01:12:52,493
But that's about it, other than the fact that like, this is a dystopian future where for some reason, the record company is the government, and they have like, kind of like thought moral police that like go around policing people and making sure they have a BIM sticker on their face or whatever the fuck, but otherwise...

922
01:12:52,513 --> 01:12:54,373
Which by the way is a sticker.

923
01:12:56,153 --> 01:13:08,173
Yeah, but you know, otherwise not necessarily the super oppressive evil regime that you would think it would be if he was like, really a bad guy.

924
01:13:08,193 --> 01:13:10,553
But that's, I think that's what bothered me.

925
01:13:10,573 --> 01:13:14,033
There wasn't enough to make the devil quotations.

926
01:13:14,893 --> 01:13:16,993
The bad guy seemed like the devil.

927
01:13:17,093 --> 01:13:22,013
It didn't push on those elements of her falling into any sort of...

928
01:13:22,033 --> 01:13:27,673
I don't know, hitting any sort of wall or anything.

929
01:13:27,713 --> 01:13:30,493
It just seemed like she had a good life.

930
01:13:30,513 --> 01:13:32,433
She was celebrated.

931
01:13:32,453 --> 01:13:33,693
She got lots of attention.

932
01:13:33,713 --> 01:13:35,353
She was a fucking handsome guy.

933
01:13:35,373 --> 01:13:44,493
Oh, and once we get past, once we get to Gary and his thoughts and we get into talking about this, I'll go into another point with her.

934
01:13:44,893 --> 01:13:49,433
But also, God in this, he's a fucking hippie.

935
01:13:50,393 --> 01:13:53,053
And it's like, are we supposed to...

936
01:13:53,393 --> 01:13:58,053
This is like the point when people are starting to turn against hippies and shit in the culture.

937
01:13:58,073 --> 01:14:07,533
It's like, oh, hippies are starting to grow up to become like fucking accountants and save up for their 401Ks and vote for Reagan and shit.

938
01:14:13,033 --> 01:14:15,853
Are we gonna throw some love towards the hippies at this point?

939
01:14:15,873 --> 01:14:16,613
I don't think so.

940
01:14:17,013 --> 01:14:30,793
These disco hippies, it just seems like a globus misreading of what that culture was and what it represented, I think.

941
01:14:30,813 --> 01:14:47,093
And also, I feel like it's kind of like Golan, he's putting a little bit, he's writing a little bit into this, but this is like from a previously written, like it was supposed to be like a stage performance thing from the other two co-writers.

942
01:14:47,493 --> 01:14:51,073
And they actually star in this in bit parts too.

943
01:14:51,833 --> 01:14:55,513
Who are they here?

944
01:14:55,533 --> 01:15:00,433
Kobe and Iris, Wrecked or Rich, maybe Wrecked, whatever.

945
01:15:01,853 --> 01:15:09,353
They're trying to get this off and running for years is like a stage performance, like Broadway kind of thing, musical or whatever.

946
01:15:09,933 --> 01:15:13,233
And they never came to fruition, so they made it into a film.

947
01:15:13,693 --> 01:15:22,733
And it's obviously that there's some more, you know, in and rewrites going on in here and it feels like it made it more of a mess than it probably was originally.

948
01:15:23,413 --> 01:15:34,173
It didn't, the movie to me didn't feel very genuine, like first a musical, like it just felt like somebody who had the opportunity to do something did it versus like taking the opinions on anybody.

949
01:15:34,493 --> 01:15:41,893
Like it just seemed like there was an idea here and people probably were like trying to give them feedback, but they're like, no, no, it's my idea, fuck you.

950
01:15:42,553 --> 01:15:45,813
Because I just feel like there's a lot missing to make it something.

951
01:15:46,253 --> 01:15:47,973
Like you were saying, the music's not that great.

952
01:15:48,373 --> 01:15:49,953
I love musicals.

953
01:15:50,413 --> 01:15:51,893
Actually, it's funny, I just thought of it.

954
01:15:51,913 --> 01:15:54,073
I just watched Mamma Mia the other day or yesterday.

955
01:15:54,093 --> 01:15:59,613
And while it is a stupid, silly movie, some of the songs are extremely catchy and how they do them.

956
01:15:59,633 --> 01:16:01,773
And that's what gets you hooked on musicals.

957
01:16:02,073 --> 01:16:06,353
Like there's always that one or two songs that like gets stuck in your head and you're singing them.

958
01:16:06,713 --> 01:16:08,453
This one, I don't remember any of the songs.

959
01:16:08,473 --> 01:16:11,073
Like it's just a very mediocre music.

960
01:16:12,833 --> 01:16:20,753
Even the dancing elements, there were some good times, like some parts where there was some good dancing, but for a musical, like it kind of lacked that choreography feel too.

961
01:16:22,613 --> 01:16:29,013
And yeah, like I didn't, I just didn't care for the fight, like the fight against what?

962
01:16:29,033 --> 01:16:31,393
Like I didn't get that rage, I didn't get that anger.

963
01:16:31,413 --> 01:16:34,033
Like I wanted something more for like the climax.

964
01:16:34,053 --> 01:16:35,713
Like I just kind of then left disappointed.

965
01:16:36,153 --> 01:16:41,313
It was just a little lackluster storytelling in general.

966
01:16:43,313 --> 01:16:45,773
I think it just missed the mark on so many different levels.

967
01:16:46,753 --> 01:16:55,893
I did find it funny that the maximum heart rate for people of excitement is 151, which means that like they're right, all 69 in the crowd.

968
01:16:56,033 --> 01:16:57,533
I think that's the math, if you do it correctly.

969
01:16:58,393 --> 01:17:00,633
Anyway, kind of funny.

970
01:17:01,073 --> 01:17:04,453
Like, oh my God, their heart rates are reaching 151.

971
01:17:04,473 --> 01:17:06,393
Okay, is that supposed to be intense?

972
01:17:06,413 --> 01:17:06,933
I don't know.

973
01:17:07,233 --> 01:17:14,213
Like, if you want them peaking, pretty sure like 20 year olds should be peaking at 200, but okay, 150 sounds exciting.

974
01:17:14,913 --> 01:17:15,333
Yeah.

975
01:17:16,993 --> 01:17:17,473
Oh, boy.

976
01:17:17,493 --> 01:17:18,673
Yeah, this is The Apple.

977
01:17:18,693 --> 01:17:20,393
This is the first time watching me.

978
01:17:22,313 --> 01:17:29,813
It's like what you mentioned, I was going to mention this too, but Lee, the punch there about this feeling, like things are better than it is.

979
01:17:30,273 --> 01:17:32,573
Like it feels like Phantom Paradise.

980
01:17:32,593 --> 01:17:44,073
It feels like rock and roll, like a mash together, where if you ever see these films, my lady, you should watch these films, especially Phantom and rock and roll is animated.

981
01:17:44,093 --> 01:17:52,913
It's just still very, very fun, but they had a lot more thunder behind the lyrics and the voices behind it.

982
01:17:53,413 --> 01:18:09,873
And this film, I don't want to call it an excuse, but they tried to play this thing and imagine it's a playoff of the Eurovision contest that happens every year to where, I think where ABBA got discovered and all this other stuff.

983
01:18:11,053 --> 01:18:13,713
We just started to watch it in this country.

984
01:18:14,513 --> 01:18:22,273
Like last year, I think, we started watching, not voting, but actually watching the Eurovision contest and wanted to watch it.

985
01:18:22,293 --> 01:18:28,853
But apparently it's a very big deal in a lot of countries to know what they're playing off for this movie.

986
01:18:29,413 --> 01:18:38,093
But it doesn't matter because they kind of say, hey, we found this act that we're going to exploit because they surprisingly sang this somber love song and people were digging it.

987
01:18:39,033 --> 01:18:43,773
We'll make her a star and we'll dump this dude other places, I guess.

988
01:18:44,553 --> 01:18:46,093
That's what they do.

989
01:18:46,113 --> 01:19:03,693
They turn BB into a star, because one line, I'd have to find it, or something along the lines of it, which basically is the whole canon model of, you know, you sell the idea, and then you make the music, or you make the song.

990
01:19:04,433 --> 01:19:08,993
Yeah, you sell the album, and then you make it, is what they said.

991
01:19:09,013 --> 01:19:14,373
It's like, yeah, we're going into the studio next week to record the album, but we've already sold it or whatever.

992
01:19:14,393 --> 01:19:14,913
It's like, what?

993
01:19:15,333 --> 01:19:16,373
Oh, yeah.

994
01:19:16,393 --> 01:19:23,233
It's the same thing as what Canon would make the poster for the movie first to sell it to people before they even made the movie.

995
01:19:25,793 --> 01:19:26,693
Well, not just him.

996
01:19:26,713 --> 01:19:28,973
Charlie Band did that to a lot of those guys.

997
01:19:28,993 --> 01:19:32,393
They made the poster first to sell the movie.

998
01:19:32,513 --> 01:19:33,353
Roger Corman.

999
01:19:33,773 --> 01:19:35,253
They made the movie.

1000
01:19:35,773 --> 01:19:36,553
Roger Corman, too.

1001
01:19:36,613 --> 01:19:40,253
Yeah, it was a big, big, big sell amongst independent filmmakers.

1002
01:19:40,393 --> 01:19:42,493
Make the poster first and sell the movie.

1003
01:19:42,913 --> 01:19:44,033
I said it was very interesting.

1004
01:19:44,053 --> 01:19:47,813
They threw that in there to say, hey, yeah, that is the Canon Business Model land.

1005
01:19:47,833 --> 01:19:52,613
And just say, hey, we'll make this promotional material and say, let's sell, sell, sell the movie.

1006
01:19:53,693 --> 01:19:55,773
And that that was all the Apple.

1007
01:19:56,353 --> 01:19:56,713
Yeah.

1008
01:19:56,933 --> 01:20:15,293
And that and that prevailed into the VHS market when that became prominent in the mid to late 80s, where it's like you go into a VHS rental place and you see all these enticing covers for movies, you know, that were the where the movie art on the cover looks amazing.

1009
01:20:15,533 --> 01:20:18,513
And you buy that movie and it's like it's promising so much.

1010
01:20:18,533 --> 01:20:22,873
And then like nine times out of 10, it's just incredibly disappointing.

1011
01:20:24,973 --> 01:20:27,553
If this is fine, like you guys said, okay, I'm sorry.

1012
01:20:27,573 --> 01:20:29,113
I was going to say.

1013
01:20:29,273 --> 01:20:30,153
But Lee, I'm sorry.

1014
01:20:30,173 --> 01:20:36,813
For Lee, there used to be places called rental shops where you could rent VHS tapes.

1015
01:20:39,113 --> 01:20:45,713
No, VHS tapes, you don't realize they were analog, not digital, and you had to rent them.

1016
01:20:46,153 --> 01:20:48,973
Because I know I did that on the weekend with my family and friends.

1017
01:20:48,993 --> 01:20:50,533
They were made out of plastic.

1018
01:20:50,553 --> 01:20:52,553
Thank you for answering VHS for me.

1019
01:20:53,393 --> 01:21:02,393
Like you guys said, though, the songs weren't all that great.

1020
01:21:03,013 --> 01:21:04,793
You know, they were what they were.

1021
01:21:06,233 --> 01:21:10,973
I could see why, how these guys were trying to turn into a stage play, because that's what I was thinking the whole time.

1022
01:21:11,393 --> 01:21:15,493
Like, you know, with the proper tweaking, this could become a stage play.

1023
01:21:16,213 --> 01:21:18,753
But it definitely needs some work.

1024
01:21:19,233 --> 01:21:28,233
I love the fact you live in a world that at four o'clock, you're mandatorily supposed to dance and exercise, no matter what you're doing.

1025
01:21:28,253 --> 01:21:32,413
So they're stopping a fire they're trying to put out.

1026
01:21:32,813 --> 01:21:37,713
They take the guy off a life support because it's four o'clock and they got to dance for the bim.

1027
01:21:37,733 --> 01:21:39,633
You know, I love the fact.

1028
01:21:40,913 --> 01:21:43,693
That was probably the one good joke in the film, honestly.

1029
01:21:43,713 --> 01:21:46,853
Like I was like, okay, that's like a Monty Python sketch there.

1030
01:21:47,033 --> 01:21:49,273
Like there's something going on there that's funny.

1031
01:21:50,573 --> 01:21:52,413
A lot of stuff was out of place.

1032
01:21:52,433 --> 01:21:55,273
Oh, no, no, that's like the big thing.

1033
01:21:55,293 --> 01:21:57,813
And the only thing I really liked was the Oogalo.

1034
01:21:58,153 --> 01:22:02,553
Like Vicki said, that kind of was the same grace because his performance was just phenomenal.

1035
01:22:02,613 --> 01:22:04,913
Like he was fucking hilarious the whole time.

1036
01:22:04,933 --> 01:22:07,413
He was on point from beginning to end.

1037
01:22:07,813 --> 01:22:16,733
Like he never lost character even at the end when like they had this such a, like, I don't know, most disappointing ending ever.

1038
01:22:17,313 --> 01:22:26,273
Like it was just so drab and like, oh, here, we're just gonna end with a sad song where she comes back and they're gonna see her a year later.

1039
01:22:26,293 --> 01:22:35,253
She has a kid, the boyfriend has a beard now and she owes money to Bugalo and God says no.

1040
01:22:36,853 --> 01:22:39,413
Oh shit, his face the whole entire time.

1041
01:22:39,693 --> 01:22:41,733
Well, this scene was extremely boring to watch.

1042
01:22:41,773 --> 01:22:45,473
I was looking for him because he still made the funniest fucking faces.

1043
01:22:45,493 --> 01:22:48,953
He was still background acting and he was fucking awesome.

1044
01:22:49,413 --> 01:22:51,373
And God's the real shit here.

1045
01:22:51,393 --> 01:22:56,733
Just saying, every instance, God's kind of shitty.

1046
01:22:57,973 --> 01:23:09,333
But in this movie, he fucking interferes with a legit contract that she had with Bugalo that was doing very well for both of them.

1047
01:23:09,853 --> 01:23:11,673
And she skipped out of her contract.

1048
01:23:11,693 --> 01:23:17,013
Legally, Bugalo, as head of state basically, has every right to go after her.

1049
01:23:17,473 --> 01:23:21,273
It's not like they were beating these hippies or shooting them or anything like that.

1050
01:23:21,293 --> 01:23:27,813
They were just like, hey, we're coming to take her away because she didn't live up to her side of the contract.

1051
01:23:28,133 --> 01:23:29,673
I'm sorry, a contract is a contract.

1052
01:23:30,373 --> 01:23:35,613
Unless she's going to pay out, then she can't get out of the contract.

1053
01:23:37,013 --> 01:23:39,153
I'm kind of on the devil's side in this.

1054
01:23:39,333 --> 01:23:40,653
He kind of got screwed.

1055
01:23:41,373 --> 01:23:46,193
I think the devil's life was a lot more entertaining than the baby making side.

1056
01:23:46,213 --> 01:23:50,593
I don't know, if you're supposed to make me turn to God in this movie, I definitely turn to the devil.

1057
01:23:54,193 --> 01:23:57,653
Also, what's with this ending where everyone gets raptured?

1058
01:23:57,673 --> 01:24:01,093
That's the ending, the good guys get raptured and go to heaven?

1059
01:24:01,713 --> 01:24:02,133
What?

1060
01:24:09,653 --> 01:24:10,513
It becomes like...

1061
01:24:10,533 --> 01:24:19,833
Joss Ackland, Jesus, rolls up in his pimp car out of the clouds and then says, Hey, all are welcome in my pimp car.

1062
01:24:24,413 --> 01:24:28,313
I'm waiting for fucking Kevin Sorbo to remake this because it's got a rapture in it.

1063
01:24:28,333 --> 01:24:32,233
So it would interest him to fucking...

1064
01:24:32,373 --> 01:24:34,213
Let's get the wokeness out of Hollywood.

1065
01:24:34,233 --> 01:24:37,973
We'll make the really straight version of The Apple with none of that gay stuff in it.

1066
01:24:38,413 --> 01:24:40,113
And we'll rapture all the...

1067
01:24:40,573 --> 01:24:42,713
In this case, we'll rapture all the fascists.

1068
01:24:43,213 --> 01:24:47,033
The gay stuff was supposed to be bad because that was part of the devil.

1069
01:24:47,513 --> 01:24:50,493
All the normal nuclear family shit was...

1070
01:24:50,533 --> 01:24:51,753
Oh, yeah, they were all hippies.

1071
01:24:51,913 --> 01:24:53,913
They were all hippies, yeah.

1072
01:24:53,933 --> 01:25:02,133
So realistically, when you think about the whole movie, they were supposed to be anti-the-gay stuff and anti-the-androgynous stuff and all that stuff, whatever.

1073
01:25:02,153 --> 01:25:08,753
And you're supposed to be, yes, man, woman, fall in love, have baby, live in harmony and peace.

1074
01:25:09,713 --> 01:25:17,173
Are we going to look past the fact that our male lead, and this gets date-raped basically in this movie?

1075
01:25:17,193 --> 01:25:18,573
He gets drugged and raped.

1076
01:25:18,873 --> 01:25:25,713
Well, I was going to bring up the plot point there that Alfie's dick can save the world because you know what?

1077
01:25:26,273 --> 01:25:28,373
He went into an orgy under false pretense.

1078
01:25:28,393 --> 01:25:36,253
He was drugged, yes, but he plowed peony, you know, in the I'm Coming number in the movie.

1079
01:25:36,273 --> 01:25:37,273
Not obvious at all.

1080
01:25:37,893 --> 01:25:42,433
And she had a change of heart, you know, just by getting some Alfie dick there.

1081
01:25:42,973 --> 01:25:44,013
Oh, yeah, that's how it is.

1082
01:25:44,213 --> 01:25:49,853
Women just lives are changed by men's penises yet again in another fucking movie.

1083
01:25:51,253 --> 01:25:52,133
I still don't know.

1084
01:25:52,573 --> 01:25:53,413
Here's the thing, though.

1085
01:25:53,933 --> 01:26:00,493
I still don't understand why BB does a face turn all of a sudden and goes back to Alfie just because Pansy.

1086
01:26:00,513 --> 01:26:01,713
I dream about him.

1087
01:26:01,733 --> 01:26:03,733
I dream about him.

1088
01:26:03,793 --> 01:26:05,593
That's where it's like really weak, right?

1089
01:26:05,613 --> 01:26:11,793
Like that's where it's just like it rushes to an ending that makes no sense because there's no reason.

1090
01:26:11,813 --> 01:26:13,253
There's no reason for her to turn.

1091
01:26:13,673 --> 01:26:19,373
She's got a good thing going with the with the with Boogaloo and BM music and all that shit.

1092
01:26:19,813 --> 01:26:22,773
So it's like and like Andy sucks.

1093
01:26:23,073 --> 01:26:26,093
Like he writes bad songs.

1094
01:26:26,433 --> 01:26:27,893
He's a bum living on the street now.

1095
01:26:27,913 --> 01:26:28,473
He sucks.

1096
01:26:28,793 --> 01:26:29,713
I mean, he really doesn't.

1097
01:26:29,733 --> 01:26:31,853
He doesn't even have the decency to become a drug.

1098
01:26:31,873 --> 01:26:34,053
He grabbed his landlady boobies.

1099
01:26:35,993 --> 01:26:37,833
I don't even see the purpose of that.

1100
01:26:37,913 --> 01:26:39,173
I don't understand why he did it.

1101
01:26:39,193 --> 01:26:40,393
I don't understand why it was in the movie.

1102
01:26:40,793 --> 01:26:42,013
Like, why?

1103
01:26:42,493 --> 01:26:44,553
Everyone loves Mariam Margolis.

1104
01:26:44,573 --> 01:26:45,153
That's why.

1105
01:26:45,533 --> 01:26:46,673
It doesn't matter.

1106
01:26:47,073 --> 01:26:50,473
You don't just randomly grab a lady's boobies.

1107
01:26:50,473 --> 01:26:52,933
She put lavender in her bra like that lady in the movie.

1108
01:26:54,493 --> 01:26:55,853
Yes, she smelled so good.

1109
01:26:56,093 --> 01:26:57,193
And they were firm.

1110
01:26:57,213 --> 01:27:02,453
She does not give consent to grab a person's boobies, even if they smell good.

1111
01:27:02,893 --> 01:27:05,273
It does in the dystopian future of The Apple.

1112
01:27:07,573 --> 01:27:14,453
I do enjoy how we had a post-apocalyptic kind of dystopian movie.

1113
01:27:15,213 --> 01:27:16,493
This is more of a totalitarian.

1114
01:27:16,993 --> 01:27:22,073
Well, I mean, technically this, so like the first movie is just post-apocalyptic.

1115
01:27:22,413 --> 01:27:27,213
This is technically dystopian because it's like a police state, right?

1116
01:27:27,233 --> 01:27:29,633
It's like a totalitarian dystopian.

1117
01:27:29,873 --> 01:27:30,973
Yeah, exactly.

1118
01:27:31,373 --> 01:27:33,133
That is what I was saying, Lee.

1119
01:27:34,973 --> 01:27:35,873
You're so plastic.

1120
01:27:36,173 --> 01:27:37,413
Is it really that bad though?

1121
01:27:37,433 --> 01:27:46,413
Because Boogaloo really wants to be distracted, but not by much at the fact that, you know, hey, you're going to get some entertainment.

1122
01:27:47,013 --> 01:27:47,453
You know what?

1123
01:27:47,473 --> 01:27:49,513
You're going to get exercise every day at four o'clock.

1124
01:27:49,933 --> 01:27:53,673
So in a way, he's helping with the cardio up.

1125
01:27:53,693 --> 01:27:55,713
He's helping them be more outstanding citizens.

1126
01:27:55,733 --> 01:27:56,433
That was funny.

1127
01:27:56,453 --> 01:27:58,493
Supposed to be a little more docile, enjoying some food.

1128
01:28:00,313 --> 01:28:02,573
I mean, I would ask you this, Gary.

1129
01:28:03,673 --> 01:28:08,633
Does this society look better or worse than the one in Demolition Man?

1130
01:28:09,013 --> 01:28:16,613
And you know how much I dislike Demolition Man and how I thought the politics and that were so fucked up.

1131
01:28:16,933 --> 01:28:22,313
Here it seems like, yes, it's kind of a police state, but it's a super soft one.

1132
01:28:22,773 --> 01:28:35,593
And it seems like people can kind of just be themselves and do whatever the fuck they want because Boogaloo doesn't seem like he enforces much of anything other than the four o'clock BMI moment or whatever the fuck it is.

1133
01:28:37,193 --> 01:28:39,353
IM whatever, BMI, bell moment.

1134
01:28:40,913 --> 01:28:41,253
Sure.

1135
01:28:41,273 --> 01:28:43,253
I mean, that's part of it.

1136
01:28:43,273 --> 01:28:44,693
It's an exercise thing.

1137
01:28:44,713 --> 01:28:46,293
You got to keep on that.

1138
01:28:47,793 --> 01:28:55,013
But yeah, no, it's just the movie doesn't push into that political stuff to any serious degree.

1139
01:28:55,433 --> 01:28:58,613
And it has no need to in the first place.

1140
01:28:58,673 --> 01:29:04,653
It feels like that that kind of stuff is written in maybe by by Golden Globus.

1141
01:29:05,173 --> 01:29:08,993
And it's just it doesn't match with the rest of it.

1142
01:29:09,453 --> 01:29:10,753
Even then, he's not really a villain.

1143
01:29:10,773 --> 01:29:15,993
He's kind of like saying, you know, hey, I'm entertaining people and distract them from all this other shit that's going on.

1144
01:29:16,013 --> 01:29:24,393
Because even when they move in on the hippies camp, they basically tell them, hey, you've been told before, you can't stay here between this time and this time.

1145
01:29:24,413 --> 01:29:30,913
Like any other time, they're welcome to stay there, but go back to your hippie cave, you know, like Jesus Christ Superstar intended.

1146
01:29:30,933 --> 01:29:35,313
And, you know, stay there until you come out again, you know.

1147
01:29:35,813 --> 01:29:37,473
Another musical that was better than this one.

1148
01:29:40,113 --> 01:29:44,353
I'm not even a huge person on the Jesus thing, but I love Jesus Christ Superstar.

1149
01:29:44,513 --> 01:29:45,713
It's definitely a better musical.

1150
01:29:45,733 --> 01:29:54,893
But, you know, again, I don't want to damn this movie because I feel like it's unfairly shit upon.

1151
01:29:55,333 --> 01:29:57,233
I think there's a lot of fun stuff in it.

1152
01:29:57,253 --> 01:30:02,253
I think in general, there's so many...

1153
01:30:02,273 --> 01:30:07,293
Yeah, but there's so many people in this, like, actually doing their best and, like, really trying.

1154
01:30:07,833 --> 01:30:11,193
And, you know, the material's just not there to bring it all together.

1155
01:30:11,793 --> 01:30:16,233
But it's a valiant effort, and it's definitely not one of the worst movies of all time.

1156
01:30:16,253 --> 01:30:22,673
Like, that's just fucking hyperbole beyond any reasonable fucking take from anybody.

1157
01:30:22,693 --> 01:30:25,853
Like, that's a take from people who don't watch a lot of movies.

1158
01:30:27,253 --> 01:30:30,613
Because I have seen way fucking worse than this.

1159
01:30:31,013 --> 01:30:31,733
There are...

1160
01:30:31,753 --> 01:30:36,013
Okay, but there's the argument of, like, way worse and still saying that this one's bad.

1161
01:30:36,033 --> 01:30:37,493
Like, I get that there's worse.

1162
01:30:38,133 --> 01:30:42,853
I'm just saying, like, I've seen a lot worse, too, but this one's still bad.

1163
01:30:43,013 --> 01:30:46,533
But there's enough in this that's fun that I can enjoy.

1164
01:30:47,593 --> 01:30:54,713
As a complete package, it doesn't work, but there's still fun stuff, whereas I've seen movies where everything is across the board is fucking terrible.

1165
01:30:54,733 --> 01:30:55,553
Would you watch this again?

1166
01:30:55,573 --> 01:30:57,313
I would watch this again, yeah.

1167
01:30:58,813 --> 01:31:02,933
I would definitely watch this again just to, like, talk on someone else's podcast about it, for sure.

1168
01:31:03,353 --> 01:31:04,653
No, without reason.

1169
01:31:04,673 --> 01:31:05,453
Just watch it again.

1170
01:31:05,613 --> 01:31:11,293
Oh, no, probably not, but I'd say that about, like, 99% of the movies I watch, even if I like them.

1171
01:31:11,573 --> 01:31:18,553
So that just throws your theory right out the window, Miss Thing, and take your phone call unprofessionally, live on the air.

1172
01:31:20,413 --> 01:31:24,593
I will kick it to the lady and ask her who's not.

1173
01:31:25,073 --> 01:31:29,573
I forgot to mention our lead characters are from Boosterhaw, Saskatchewan.

1174
01:31:29,753 --> 01:31:30,513
Oh, yeah.

1175
01:31:30,993 --> 01:31:36,213
So they're like fucking, they must be fucking some real yokels coming in to play this fucking music festival thing.

1176
01:31:36,913 --> 01:31:40,933
Anyway, Lady Lee, what are your final thoughts on this movie, please?

1177
01:31:41,613 --> 01:31:42,193
My final move?

1178
01:31:42,213 --> 01:31:46,813
Okay, so I didn't like it.

1179
01:31:48,053 --> 01:31:51,033
There were like the, like you said, the devil.

1180
01:31:51,053 --> 01:31:53,493
He did an amazing job.

1181
01:31:53,513 --> 01:31:59,693
He was like the key component to this movie that made it like somewhat entertaining.

1182
01:32:00,113 --> 01:32:08,433
But I got to the point where a lot of the songs were so boring that I was like skipping through them because I'm like, oh my fucking God, this song is taking way too long.

1183
01:32:08,893 --> 01:32:17,693
I couldn't sit down and watch this from beginning to end without wanting to just go do something else.

1184
01:32:17,713 --> 01:32:19,613
It just did not keep me interested.

1185
01:32:19,633 --> 01:32:20,753
It did not keep me entertained.

1186
01:32:22,253 --> 01:32:29,753
And like I said, it just lacked any sort of like real kind of conflict.

1187
01:32:30,093 --> 01:32:31,413
There was no real conflict.

1188
01:32:31,473 --> 01:32:35,253
It just seemed like just because it was the devil, he's bad.

1189
01:32:35,273 --> 01:32:38,673
I get that it's supposed to be like, oh, well, he's taking over everything.

1190
01:32:38,693 --> 01:32:42,713
I'm like, OK, but if everything else is better, then everyone's happy.

1191
01:32:43,273 --> 01:32:45,733
I don't see it as being as much of a problem.

1192
01:32:45,753 --> 01:32:47,933
Like I really wanted to, you hate him.

1193
01:32:48,393 --> 01:32:50,473
You got to hate the bad guy.

1194
01:32:50,753 --> 01:32:54,133
But I was rooting for him because he was the only good part of the movie.

1195
01:32:54,713 --> 01:32:55,193
Yeah, good.

1196
01:32:55,753 --> 01:32:55,893
Mr.

1197
01:32:55,913 --> 01:32:57,253
Lee, what do you think, sir?

1198
01:32:58,693 --> 01:33:05,653
Like I said, I feel like there's a lot of hyperbole going around that kind of damns this movie right at the gate.

1199
01:33:05,753 --> 01:33:09,513
And a lot of people just hear it from its reputation and go, well, I'll skip it.

1200
01:33:09,873 --> 01:33:11,113
I'd say watch this one.

1201
01:33:11,573 --> 01:33:16,553
I'm not going to tell you it's the greatest movie ever or anything like that because it's definitely not.

1202
01:33:16,893 --> 01:33:23,473
Like I said, Phantom of the Paradise, Rock and Rule, both way better versions kind of this to watch.

1203
01:33:24,233 --> 01:33:29,693
But if you like that kind of stuff and you kind of want to watch something that has some of those elements and it's still kind of fun.

1204
01:33:30,633 --> 01:33:45,193
And there's, like I said, if you're a person who likes going into a movie and finding like fun performances and fun elements and even bad movies, then there's a lot of that stuff in here that you can dig into and have fun, at least for one watch.

1205
01:33:45,213 --> 01:33:49,893
I'm not saying this is going to become an all time classic on your shelf or anything like that because it probably won't.

1206
01:33:50,273 --> 01:33:57,473
But I think, you know, there's enough in this to give sort of a base recommendation of, hey, this isn't terrible.

1207
01:33:57,933 --> 01:34:01,813
This is not the failure that everyone says it is.

1208
01:34:04,073 --> 01:34:04,873
It is not.

1209
01:34:05,293 --> 01:34:05,953
It's fine.

1210
01:34:06,453 --> 01:34:07,333
It's totally fine.

1211
01:34:07,453 --> 01:34:08,633
It's totally harmless.

1212
01:34:09,013 --> 01:34:09,673
It's fine.

1213
01:34:11,173 --> 01:34:12,033
It's just boring.

1214
01:34:12,133 --> 01:34:13,153
It's pointless.

1215
01:34:13,173 --> 01:34:19,153
There's nothing about it that's giving any excitement or reason to watch it.

1216
01:34:21,493 --> 01:34:21,913
All right.

1217
01:34:22,593 --> 01:34:23,773
I dug the future clothes.

1218
01:34:23,793 --> 01:34:30,153
I dug the Battlestar Galactica fall collection that everyone was wearing.

1219
01:34:30,173 --> 01:34:32,973
I like the hippie disco glam concert.

1220
01:34:33,433 --> 01:34:34,653
I like a lot of stuff in this.

1221
01:34:34,673 --> 01:34:35,413
I like Mr.

1222
01:34:35,433 --> 01:34:35,933
Boogaloo.

1223
01:34:36,393 --> 01:34:38,053
He's great.

1224
01:34:38,333 --> 01:34:40,453
I like that this is set in 1994.

1225
01:34:41,953 --> 01:34:44,193
The distant future of 1994.

1226
01:34:44,213 --> 01:34:49,813
If this had better leads, I think it would be a whole different story too.

1227
01:34:49,933 --> 01:34:57,153
If you had really good lead heroes that could really carry a movie, I think this would be a much different movie.

1228
01:34:57,573 --> 01:35:00,373
But they're both not good.

1229
01:35:00,633 --> 01:35:03,353
Their characters are bad and they're miscast.

1230
01:35:03,933 --> 01:35:05,093
The story is also...

1231
01:35:05,893 --> 01:35:07,753
Yeah, this is the thing, right?

1232
01:35:07,773 --> 01:35:09,233
There's no story there to like...

1233
01:35:09,653 --> 01:35:10,853
And the music's bad.

1234
01:35:11,273 --> 01:35:12,313
Some of the music's bad.

1235
01:35:13,053 --> 01:35:15,633
Some of it's okay, but there's a lot of bad too.

1236
01:35:15,653 --> 01:35:17,673
And it pops up in weird places.

1237
01:35:17,693 --> 01:35:19,193
That's the big problem.

1238
01:35:19,593 --> 01:35:19,993
But yeah.

1239
01:35:20,393 --> 01:35:21,813
And the ending is very meh.

1240
01:35:22,393 --> 01:35:25,633
Well, yeah, they have no ending.

1241
01:35:25,673 --> 01:35:27,913
I'm still not going to change my opinion as much as you...

1242
01:35:28,373 --> 01:35:28,993
You don't have to.

1243
01:35:29,013 --> 01:35:35,313
I'm just making sure whoever listens, if they decide to watch, that they had someone who did, and recommended to watch it.

1244
01:35:35,493 --> 01:35:36,853
And on the other side, who didn't.

1245
01:35:37,273 --> 01:35:38,033
I know what you're doing.

1246
01:35:38,513 --> 01:35:39,353
No, I'm just...

1247
01:35:39,733 --> 01:35:42,533
You're trying to lead me across the fence to you negatively.

1248
01:35:42,553 --> 01:35:43,453
No, you can enjoy it.

1249
01:35:43,473 --> 01:35:50,793
I just want to make sure that our listeners, for this episode, have a good understanding of someone who does say watch it, and someone who doesn't.

1250
01:35:51,053 --> 01:35:51,973
And they can make their own.

1251
01:35:51,993 --> 01:35:53,633
Let's just say this.

1252
01:35:53,653 --> 01:35:55,473
This movie was no America 3000.

1253
01:35:55,993 --> 01:35:57,213
Thankfully.

1254
01:35:57,233 --> 01:36:02,233
Because that was really hard to watch two of those in a row.

1255
01:36:02,253 --> 01:36:06,953
Like I said, this is the first time watching me, and it was a good watch.

1256
01:36:09,153 --> 01:36:17,973
I will say that as far as like it did what I guess was set out to do, you know, to do those movies you mentioned on a budget.

1257
01:36:18,373 --> 01:36:22,253
And it just, it's not as good as other movies.

1258
01:36:22,273 --> 01:36:25,913
So if we weren't to mention, you're still watching those.

1259
01:36:25,933 --> 01:36:26,813
I still watch those.

1260
01:36:26,833 --> 01:36:35,133
I think we covered them all on one show where another rock and roll fan of The Paradise and Tommy at some point in time.

1261
01:36:37,093 --> 01:36:38,593
But yeah, the songs were okay.

1262
01:36:38,633 --> 01:36:44,033
But like Lee said, the leads, they needed to sell a lot more than they did.

1263
01:36:44,053 --> 01:36:45,873
And they really didn't.

1264
01:36:46,233 --> 01:36:52,933
But I will say that Captain Mary Stewart found her teeth not long after this.

1265
01:36:52,953 --> 01:36:57,513
So she must have really took some acting lessons and perk herself up.

1266
01:36:57,533 --> 01:37:01,413
And she would go and make some pretty decent genre stuff.

1267
01:37:01,433 --> 01:37:06,353
And I think that Dudes is one of the most underrated things she's ever done.

1268
01:37:06,393 --> 01:37:08,753
So maybe I'll come on your show.

1269
01:37:08,773 --> 01:37:09,913
We'll do Dudes one time.

1270
01:37:09,993 --> 01:37:11,333
I think the lady would enjoy it.

1271
01:37:11,453 --> 01:37:12,213
I think she would.

1272
01:37:13,353 --> 01:37:14,493
That might be a good idea, yeah.

1273
01:37:15,193 --> 01:37:17,613
It's a punk rock western there lately.

1274
01:37:19,713 --> 01:37:21,233
Yeah, this is fine.

1275
01:37:21,253 --> 01:37:23,833
It's not like what you said.

1276
01:37:23,853 --> 01:37:28,493
It's not something to be dumped on automatically because other folks say you should dump on it.

1277
01:37:28,573 --> 01:37:31,073
I think you should go check it out for yourself.

1278
01:37:32,993 --> 01:37:41,533
And yeah, make your own decision on The Apple because I hear folks saying, you know, comments saying, oh, it's like the best worst movie there ever was.

1279
01:37:41,553 --> 01:37:44,153
I can't say that with confidence.

1280
01:37:44,693 --> 01:37:53,093
But, you know, as far as like, I want to like, you know, go smoke a blunt or something and share on something random.

1281
01:37:53,993 --> 01:37:55,973
I think The Apple Festival, you know.

1282
01:38:00,613 --> 01:38:02,093
It's available in many places, though.

1283
01:38:02,493 --> 01:38:04,013
Pluto TV for free, though.

1284
01:38:04,033 --> 01:38:05,593
I want to watch this for free.

1285
01:38:05,713 --> 01:38:07,653
Pluto TV has it for free.

1286
01:38:08,113 --> 01:38:09,253
I imagine on demand.

1287
01:38:09,273 --> 01:38:19,213
Yeah, there's a there's a site I use a lot called F movies that there's a lot of stuff on there, and that's where I grabbed the apple from.

1288
01:38:19,233 --> 01:38:21,773
That's where you got the apple from?

1289
01:38:21,973 --> 01:38:22,593
A bite to it?

1290
01:38:23,233 --> 01:38:23,613
I did.

1291
01:38:23,933 --> 01:38:26,653
I wanted knowledge.

1292
01:38:27,053 --> 01:38:30,133
The apple that God didn't want me to have.

1293
01:38:30,713 --> 01:38:31,673
I enjoyed that though.

1294
01:38:31,953 --> 01:38:32,733
I thought that was fun.

1295
01:38:33,113 --> 01:38:34,453
Yeah, the song where they're in hell.

1296
01:38:34,473 --> 01:38:35,073
That was good.

1297
01:38:35,093 --> 01:38:36,213
I like that one.

1298
01:38:36,733 --> 01:38:40,533
And the first song, the coming song, the coming song was fun.

1299
01:38:40,993 --> 01:38:48,673
The apple and the first song that had nothing to do with the actual movie, except for like showing or sorry, winning the concert.

1300
01:38:49,673 --> 01:38:50,213
You need to calm.

1301
01:38:58,113 --> 01:38:59,953
Every movie has like a good thing about it.

1302
01:38:59,973 --> 01:39:02,953
So I can't say it's not trash.

1303
01:39:03,333 --> 01:39:04,493
Yeah, every movie has one thing.

1304
01:39:04,633 --> 01:39:05,813
One thing that I'll compliment.

1305
01:39:06,253 --> 01:39:06,633
All right.

1306
01:39:06,653 --> 01:39:07,553
All right.

1307
01:39:07,573 --> 01:39:08,333
She said enough.

1308
01:39:08,353 --> 01:39:12,053
She's not running an Amazonian tribe in the future wasteland.

1309
01:39:12,073 --> 01:39:13,473
Let's cut this show off, Gary.

1310
01:39:13,493 --> 01:39:14,813
Let's get this done.

1311
01:39:19,093 --> 01:39:19,853
Thank you, everybody.

1312
01:39:19,873 --> 01:39:20,553
Good night.

1313
01:39:20,973 --> 01:39:22,333
No, we'll come back.

1314
01:39:22,353 --> 01:39:23,433
We'll close out the show.

1315
01:39:26,713 --> 01:39:28,133
Hello, this is the Doom Show.

1316
01:39:28,153 --> 01:39:30,753
Keep on keeping on and keep on trucking, America.

1317
01:39:31,093 --> 01:39:33,833
We don't listen to our feedback because we don't get any.

1318
01:39:35,193 --> 01:39:36,113
The truth hurts.

1319
01:39:36,273 --> 01:39:39,453
I just alienated the two people that give us constant feedback.

1320
01:39:39,473 --> 01:39:40,093
Sorry, guys.

1321
01:39:40,513 --> 01:39:41,793
That's got to go.

1322
01:39:41,833 --> 01:39:42,993
That's got to go in there.

1323
01:39:43,813 --> 01:39:50,193
So, on the show, we talk about Giallo movies and slasher movies and cult movies.

1324
01:39:50,513 --> 01:39:55,513
Sometimes we even talk about Cameron Mitchell and his movies.

1325
01:39:56,093 --> 01:39:57,113
I am Richard.

1326
01:39:57,233 --> 01:39:57,933
Who are you?

1327
01:39:57,953 --> 01:40:02,233
I am Brad, the guy that's not Richard or Jeffrey or Simon.

1328
01:40:02,333 --> 01:40:02,953
That's right.

1329
01:40:03,013 --> 01:40:08,193
We have four people and we always talk at once, except to each other.

1330
01:40:08,453 --> 01:40:09,773
Jeffrey lives up north.

1331
01:40:09,953 --> 01:40:11,393
Simon lives across the world.

1332
01:40:11,653 --> 01:40:13,433
Richard lives in Penis, Alabama.

1333
01:40:13,813 --> 01:40:18,053
Hello, This Is The Doom Show is a proud member of the Legion Podcast Network.

1334
01:40:18,173 --> 01:40:21,633
Check out the other shows on legionpodcasts.com.

1335
01:40:21,713 --> 01:40:29,953
You can check out more Hello, This Is The Doom Show at hellodoomshow.podomatic.com or at doommovethon.com.

1336
01:40:30,253 --> 01:40:34,053
Check for our Amazon exclusive Hello, This Is The Doom Show cookbook.

1337
01:40:34,253 --> 01:40:35,413
Do you like hot dogs?

1338
01:40:36,093 --> 01:40:36,693
We got them.

1339
01:40:36,873 --> 01:40:38,573
Do you like mac and cheese?

1340
01:40:38,753 --> 01:40:39,333
We got it.

1341
01:40:39,353 --> 01:40:40,513
Do you like cheddar?

1342
01:40:40,813 --> 01:40:41,413
We have it.

1343
01:40:41,753 --> 01:40:42,393
Actually, we don't.

1344
01:40:42,573 --> 01:40:43,413
No, no cheddar.

1345
01:40:43,473 --> 01:40:44,333
Just Colby.

1346
01:40:44,353 --> 01:40:45,053
Colby Jack.

1347
01:40:45,273 --> 01:40:46,653
Hello, This Is The Doom Show.

1348
01:40:46,813 --> 01:40:49,933
We never gave up on you because you never gave up on us.

1349
01:40:50,533 --> 01:40:50,993
Wow.

1350
01:40:52,873 --> 01:40:53,593
All right, folks.

1351
01:40:53,613 --> 01:40:57,253
That's the end of this journey into the Canada Universe.

1352
01:40:57,873 --> 01:40:58,433
Not the end.

1353
01:40:58,453 --> 01:41:02,313
I'm sure we'll do more of these because there's lots, lots more to choose from.

1354
01:41:04,013 --> 01:41:05,713
Thank you guys for coming on.

1355
01:41:06,053 --> 01:41:08,753
And I'm not sure what you guys have coming up on.

1356
01:41:08,833 --> 01:41:10,153
They Must Be Destroyed On Sight.

1357
01:41:10,173 --> 01:41:19,613
If you're not a subscriber, go to your local pod catcher and please hit that subscribe button and check out these two, these two and their bander.

1358
01:41:19,633 --> 01:41:24,833
And Daniel sometime comes on the show and he'll leave by himself.

1359
01:41:24,873 --> 01:41:31,373
And Lee puts on funky soundtrack playlists, you know, and yeah, all that good shit.

1360
01:41:31,673 --> 01:41:32,873
Yeah, that's exactly it.

1361
01:41:34,853 --> 01:41:35,233
Yeah.

1362
01:41:35,973 --> 01:41:37,793
There's a lot of Gary on that show, too.

1363
01:41:37,893 --> 01:41:49,113
But sometimes when I can show up, when I say I'm going to show up and then I cancel because, you know, I'm a terrible person, you know, but that's a no.

1364
01:41:49,133 --> 01:41:50,413
We missed the two good episodes.

1365
01:41:50,773 --> 01:41:53,113
Yeah, no, there's, yeah, true.

1366
01:41:53,133 --> 01:42:00,633
But I mean, there's three people right now in this hangout who have had like the worst personal schedules in the like last year and a half or so anyway.

1367
01:42:00,653 --> 01:42:03,133
So it's like, you know, shit happens.

1368
01:42:03,253 --> 01:42:06,193
We've all we all had stuff going on in my real lives.

1369
01:42:06,213 --> 01:42:10,333
I'm actually surprised I get any podcasts out right now.

1370
01:42:10,333 --> 01:42:12,513
So my schedule was crazy.

1371
01:42:12,513 --> 01:42:13,993
Are you kidding me?

1372
01:42:14,353 --> 01:42:16,173
No, I was the easiest to work with.

1373
01:42:19,753 --> 01:42:32,693
But I'm hoping to get more content out to you guys at a faster pace because my little buddy, my little brother Lee, I have to mention right now, has a movie that's coming out soon.

1374
01:42:32,713 --> 01:42:37,693
He's going to be the killer known as Meathead in a film called Slasher Size.

1375
01:42:37,713 --> 01:42:41,193
It's had its premiere this month actually.

1376
01:42:41,533 --> 01:42:43,133
So look for that.

1377
01:42:43,153 --> 01:42:45,113
That stars him as the killer.

1378
01:42:45,133 --> 01:42:52,793
He gets to kill Joe Bob Briggs in Darts and the Mail Girl and Tiffany Shepis is in that movie, getting killed, Felicia Rose.

1379
01:42:53,393 --> 01:42:54,613
A lot of horror names you know.

1380
01:42:55,633 --> 01:43:07,713
My friend Phil did this job and he worked at a haunted house for like 10 years and he's excited to be in this movie and excited to, he's a bass player.

1381
01:43:07,733 --> 01:43:18,853
He's been a bass player for a long time and he may be, may or may not be, and I want to announce that it's for sure the permanent bass player for a band called Bisto Blanco.

1382
01:43:18,873 --> 01:43:26,293
If you want to know who that is, that includes Alice Cooper's daughter Calico as the singer in that band.

1383
01:43:26,593 --> 01:43:37,513
So go download some Bisto Blanco and enjoy that shit because go support fledgling bands or whatnot too, as well as us.

1384
01:43:37,993 --> 01:43:41,593
Oh yeah, if you want to support a cool metal band right now, Castle Rat.

1385
01:43:42,313 --> 01:43:43,833
Hey, that sounds amazing.

1386
01:43:44,433 --> 01:43:45,353
It's great.

1387
01:43:45,373 --> 01:43:46,553
I don't know how good the music is.

1388
01:43:47,013 --> 01:43:47,733
It's very good.

1389
01:43:47,753 --> 01:43:50,513
It's fucking, it's all D&D kind of stuff.

1390
01:43:50,513 --> 01:43:59,553
It's fucking like Black Sabbath meets Coven, or Coven from the 1970s.

1391
01:43:59,573 --> 01:44:00,293
Beats Coven.

1392
01:44:00,573 --> 01:44:02,213
Yeah.

1393
01:44:02,233 --> 01:44:03,193
But no, it's really good.

1394
01:44:03,313 --> 01:44:08,033
Hot, hot, redhead female lead singer, which was the immediate draw for me.

1395
01:44:08,353 --> 01:44:10,413
But you know, music's really good.

1396
01:44:10,413 --> 01:44:10,853
Nice.

1397
01:44:12,833 --> 01:44:14,173
Yeah, more content, I hope.

1398
01:44:14,373 --> 01:44:19,013
You know, we may or may not be recording a new last call, Tortoises, next week.

1399
01:44:20,773 --> 01:44:22,693
This is all going to be released out of order.

1400
01:44:22,713 --> 01:44:26,893
Yeah, I have stuff in the can that needs to be edited.

1401
01:44:27,493 --> 01:44:34,773
The next week, we're going to record, me and the ladies doing, what do we call it?

1402
01:44:35,333 --> 01:44:35,833
Damn.

1403
01:44:38,273 --> 01:44:38,953
I forget now.

1404
01:44:39,353 --> 01:44:42,753
But it involves undead people in California coastal towns.

1405
01:44:42,933 --> 01:44:48,593
We're doing Dead and Buried in another film that I cannot remember the name of right now.

1406
01:44:48,613 --> 01:44:50,813
Dead and Buried is one of those movies.

1407
01:44:50,833 --> 01:44:55,753
Dead and Buried and, oh, and I'm blanking, but I think I know.

1408
01:44:57,493 --> 01:44:58,773
Oh, it's an Italian movie?

1409
01:44:59,953 --> 01:45:00,713
I just watched.

1410
01:45:02,533 --> 01:45:08,993
I just watched the episode on Bob's Burgers where Tina starts writing her zombie erotic fiction.

1411
01:45:15,733 --> 01:45:16,993
It always involves butts.

1412
01:45:17,193 --> 01:45:17,633
Okay.

1413
01:45:17,653 --> 01:45:21,013
I think that's not how the duplications pass with butts.

1414
01:45:26,233 --> 01:45:37,533
I'll figure it later, but it's that movie, another movie that are going to go together and the ladies are very excited to do it and get back together again, do something.

1415
01:45:39,253 --> 01:45:43,753
And again, more content for you guys and more personal therapy for myself.

1416
01:45:44,113 --> 01:45:47,273
That's all those people, is therapy for myself.

1417
01:45:47,913 --> 01:45:49,793
Is it Messiah of Evil you're doing?

1418
01:45:50,333 --> 01:45:51,833
Yes, that is the other one.

1419
01:45:52,693 --> 01:45:54,773
Two great movies you're doing on that podcast.

1420
01:45:56,833 --> 01:45:57,333
Yeah.

1421
01:45:58,213 --> 01:46:01,673
But thank you, thank you all for coming on and joining me.

1422
01:46:01,693 --> 01:46:03,533
It felt good.

1423
01:46:03,773 --> 01:46:04,933
And it's not just the beer talking.

1424
01:46:06,213 --> 01:46:07,013
It feels good.

1425
01:46:07,713 --> 01:46:09,753
But that is the end.

1426
01:46:09,773 --> 01:46:15,273
This has been The Sin of Beef Podcast, where if you've got beef, we've got the grinder.

1427
01:46:15,753 --> 01:46:16,693
See you all next time.

1428
01:46:17,133 --> 01:46:17,473
Cheers.

1429
01:46:17,493 --> 01:46:17,513
Bye.