Europe feels stuck in a loop: welfare strain, bureaucracy, and a growing sense that the system is becoming unsustainable. The conversation kicks into “peak chaos week” after the EU’s fine on X and what the crew see as speech being regulated based on what institutions “don’t like.”
From there, they zoom out into geopolitics and incentives: why alignment between the EU and US is fraying, what that signals about long-term strategy, and who gets to build the next economic order. 
Then the lens shifts to the actual constraint underneath everything: cheap energy and fast-growing compute. “Misconomy 2.0” becomes the frame—capital, regulators, and companies either solving the bottleneck together, or losing the decade.
Finally, they connect Starship scale to a wild but logical endpoint: cloud computing and AI infrastructure moving into orbit and beyond. 
In this episode
🇪🇺 Europe’s pressure cooker — welfare strain, bureaucracy & why the system feels unsustainable
❌ EU vs X — fines, speech regulation & the Streisand effect in action
📈 #1 app in Europe — why suppression backfires faster than ever
🤝 EU–US alignment — trade, defense & why strategic cooperation is fracturing
⚡ Energy as the real bottleneck — cheap power, compute & productivity as destiny
📉 “Misconomy 2.0” — how Europe misses the capital–energy–innovation triangle
🔺 From triangle to pyramid — energy, consciousness & Maslow in economic form
🚀 Starship scale — why cheaper launches change cloud computing forever
🖥️ Space-based compute — AI infrastructure leaving Earth as the logical next step
🧠 Media & AI races — incentives, narratives & why speed now beats control
Creators and Guests
Demian Beenakker
Co-Host Tesla to Mars
Florian Minderop
Co-Host Tesla to Mars
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