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When you talk about vibration, let's separate like the feeling that or can you separate
like the feeling that you get from somebody the vibe quote unquote that you get from I

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think this bigger idea that people are alluding to when they talk about vibration which I
think the bigger idea is an interview.

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conflictual today.

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What do mean by that?

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I think what I mean by that is a matrix of interconnectedness that we're all a part of and
that we all sense and it's another dimension.

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I think that, I mean, that is its own kind of topic in and of itself, but are we talking
about um another sense that we have that is intuitive?

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Now, I think you actually brought up a very interesting, unexpected word here.

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ah This whole intuition thing.

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Mm-hmm.

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Okay, then we talk a little bit about that.

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Absolutely, think it's part of what we're what we're talking about, but um, I guess Well,
okay because to me I I think that one thing that I want to tease out with the term

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vibration is are we talking about something like an intuition or are we talking about
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and thoughts and ideas

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Well, first of all, I guess I'm in my lawyer mode today because we talk about words here.

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You said something really interesting.

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Okay.

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And you were saying you're talking about vibration and you talk about intuition.

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But when you're talking about it, it's like this.

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If you were talking about intuition,

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As a person, now you're talking about a person's ability to perceive something that

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that may not.

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in physical reality be verifiable.

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All right.

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So that only infers on, but vibrations, when you talk about vibrational quality of things,
it's not my ability to perceive things.

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We're talking about the existence of something.

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It's like a little

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Well, think both.

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for my understanding of it, there's a mechanism, but then there's also the things that we
intuit from that mechanism.

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So there is a vibrational field, but vibrations themselves, maybe it's not, maybe that's
not the technical way to be talking about it.

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Different wavelengths, different frequencies have different meanings that we take from
them.

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Well, I think the whole thing, because there are a lot of kind of what would you call it?

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mean, parallel realities, things, not part of this, things that I like, like repeat
themselves.

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for instance, to me, uh like we're doing a radio.

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Well, we're doing an internet show, but let's say like, like the radio, like, like by, by
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Uh huh.

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To me, that's all that it is.

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It's just a radio.

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so, you know, there's a source of these waves.

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There's the waves and there has to be a receptor to both receive and to translate these
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oh so.

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Well, actually, if you get on like a spiritual viewpoint is that the radio

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The singer.

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Let's take this as an, I love analogies because there's so many.

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Me too.

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I love analogies because analogies are actually true.

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They're examples or repetitions of things that just show themselves in all different ways.

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Okay, so in the spiritual world, we'd say that.

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Let's say there's a country singer, know, they're in the studio, they sing in a song and
now you're a hundred miles away and you're listening to it on the radio, right?

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So the singer is God.

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Okay.

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And the medium is almost like

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what God's writing on.

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It's like it's in the form of waves.

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So there is the original source of everything.

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and it is being broadcast in the form of waves.

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That's what you call vibrations.

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But actually these are waves that are emanating from the origin of the universe.

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And there are also creatures that have been created by this

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primordial source, including me and you.

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And we are equipped to actually receive these vibrations because actually it's the same
vibrational quality of ourselves.

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Okay.

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And we also have the mechanism to bring in that just like if you have a radio at home,
your body is actually already hardwired.

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But your radio in most cases is broken.

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The radio in your mind?

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Well, mind, whatever, you know, it's a multi-level thing, but it's there and you don't see
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But they're there.

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So in other words, to kind of validate what you were saying in the beginning of our
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Everything has a frequency to it.

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thing has a resonance.

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Everything, even a rock, everything, I mean, it's a very slow resonance, everything has,
nothing is absolutely dead.

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Everything has a vibrational quality.

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This is, know, I think unknowingly you, because you're really great because you always
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into because

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You bring it up things, but these are like huge things.

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It's a huge thing, but it's a good topic.

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But it's like, again, with the people talking about parking karma, you know, and they're
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It's not like a little thing.

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this vibrate people told, Oh, I feel, you know, I feel good vibes.

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But actually everything has a vibrational quality, people aren't paying attention.

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Uh, they're not evolved enough.

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They're not.

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self aware enough, actually everything has a vibrational quality.

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And one of the purposes of your life is to be so aware that you pick up on the vibrational
quality of everything around you and inside of you.

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And so what happens even is when, and again, we've talked about this in other episodes,
when a person experienced enlightenment, know, or Satori or any of these things.

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It's actually at the point that they are vibrating the same resonance of the essence of
the universe.

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It's like a tuning fork.

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Yeah, I have to disagree with you though.

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feel like people are aware of the various vibrational frequencies around and that, I mean,
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bad vibe.

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mean, the fact that it's entered our speech in such a

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casual manner and it's so pervasive.

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think that really says something about the level of awareness and tacit acceptance.

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And that's the weird thing is that we all have experiences of this, no matter where we are
on the spectrum of accepting or denying them.

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And we also so casually use the language that we sort of tend to imply that among each
other that there's this existence.

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no, I don't disagree with you.

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think that actually everybody is aware of it.

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It's just as you said, it's a matter of degree.

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People do, no, people do.

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mean, even the fact that, as I said, we're talking about telephones or radio show.

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mean, they're actually living their life through vibrations and they do pick it up even,
you know, everybody's had this experience like somebody, they walk down a street and

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they're going, you know, I got to get out, this is not safe.

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or this person's, should be around this person or I shouldn't be around this person.

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They're picking up on something and that is what they're picking up on.

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And I was actually just kind of extending it all the way out and saying that actually what
we've all experienced and what you've described is that people, I agree with you, no,

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people are onto something.

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It's just to agree that they're onto it.

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And so ultimately they're so onto it, they actually realize that everything is vibrational
and it's second nature.

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And the power, once you start to acknowledge it and try to conceive of it in your rational
conscious mind, then I think the more access you have to it, maybe not necessarily the

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rationalization part, but the acceptance and understanding of, I think when you are
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It's that kind of self-awareness that we talk about.

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Well, yeah, and the thing is it's hard to have that self-awareness when you're like in the
middle of something because you you It's very hard to be objective because you're like in

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the middle of it.

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Okay, so you have You're not coming from the outside in you you're in the middle of it.

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So, know an example I think a very good example of this is just your mind so your mind
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is that the mind itself is extremely high frequency.

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Much more than, let's say, your animal instincts.

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So as a human being, you're multi-aspected.

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even within your body, there are things that are on different frequencies when you come
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So the human mind itself is

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very very high frequency.

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And most people aren't aware of this but you can actually hear your own mind.

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Yeah.

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So let's break that down for people.

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Cause I think that that's the first step here is most people, you know, they'll have an
experience of it.

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but they, and they hear people talk about vibration, but they still don't really
understand what we're talking about.

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So when you say a high vibration or a high frequency, that's literally a sound.

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It's a note.

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It's right.

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It's literally a sound.

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And so when you're talking about You can even hear the mind at work.

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I mean, that's the I think the way that that shows itself is that It's very hard to ever
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silent room, you'll hear the humming of your own body That's because your body is humming
It's humming.

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Yeah, your body is a machine your body has energy running through it and

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Your mind is especially energetic.

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Sure.

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And I'm very familiar with that sound even when I was from very young.

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It's very kind of high pitched sound and it's very etheric, but it's definitely a sound.

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so it's a high buzz.

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It's a high buzz, but I think we're conditioned to just kind of ignore it for so long we
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It's like white noise.

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you hear it your whole life?

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I mean, I think that taking the time to slow down to be able to hear it is one thing, but
you also, you're trapped inside your own skull.

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You know, kind of have to move a lot of things out of the way in your mind in order to
hear it.

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it's one of the great values of meditation.

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know, you're actually, you know, the uh spiritual, etheric part aside, you're starting to
just listen to yourself.

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It's very valuable.

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And uh you're actually emanating uh vibrational quality.

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so, no, people can pick up on other people.

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They can pick up whether they're

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And actually, you you've heard about the chakras, for instance.

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is very, very much so.

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So this is very interesting.

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you know, if you read about this, you know that in the Eastern philosophy, we talk about
there being seven chakras, right?

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From the bottom to the top and beyond.

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But they all, they all have their own frequency.

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So the chakra, let's say, you know, very quickly, this isn't a course on chakras, but just
very, very quickly, you know, we have the first chakras more or less at your rectum, the

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second chakra is at your sex organ, third chakra is at, and the first, you know, at the
bottom, that's kind of survival.

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And the second one is at your sex organs, that has to do with sexuality and creativity.

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And the third one's at your navel point more or less, and that has to do with ego and
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And the fourth one is at your heart center.

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that has to do with human love.

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And then the fifth one has to do, it's at your throat center and it has to do with uh
speaking the truth and communication.

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And six chakra is more or less where we call third eye between the two eyebrows, right?

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And that has to do with uh knowledge and wisdom.

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And then the very one at the top of the crown in the center, here at the top of your
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That has to do with kind of like uh more of like an all knowingness, not like an
intellectual.

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But for instance, we would just talk about the mind and the mind really is about that
sixth chakra.

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That's where we feel it.

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You feel it right, you know, in the forehead.

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Yeah, more or less that area.

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that's a very, um that's vibrating at a much higher frequency than let's say the second or
third chakra is.

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higher that means a higher pitch if you were if you could hear it sure it would be high a
higher note

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It's a higher note and it's more refined.

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it's more and it's vibrating faster.

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Right, right.

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Cause if you look at a wave form, the peaks and valleys, it's all scrunched up.

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It's closer together.

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It happens a lot quicker.

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It moves faster.

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The actual wave form, which I think is interesting because there's, there's a sound
component, which we can understand, but there's also a physical component to these waves.

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Well, they they have, they exist.

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Right.

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Exactly.

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So they're the different vibrational qualities.

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if I'm in some, so a lot of people say, this brings back this whole thing intuition you
were talking about, right?

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So people, for instance, are going, Oh, know, Hari Nam, you're so intuitive.

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Like, what does that actually mean?

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But they just, they're, they're, they're, uh, just guessing what it means because they're
not sure.

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But all it really means is, is that if there's a human being and they're open.

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So let's say for argument's sake that I'm an open guy and I'm in the presence of another
person and learned this from my teacher and it's not that complicated.

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You can't learn how to be intuitive.

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You have to, and this is what saying, there's no like tools.

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There's all these, I laugh, there's all these courses on how you could be more intuitive.

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But it's all fraudulent, I can tell you, because there's only one way to be truly
intuitive, what intuitive really means, and that is for you to be in touch with yourself.

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Because when you're in touch with yourself, you can feel yourself, you're open, and you
can feel yourself on all these different levels simultaneously.

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So now, somebody walks in the room, and I'm...

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in touch with my vibrational quality.

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There's no shortcut.

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can't get around this because intuition is not felt either in the head or the heart.

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Intuition is a holistic experience of recognizing what's happening without even having to
think about it.

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just know.

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It's a full being, not even body experience, it's a full being experience.

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What happens is that as you get to know yourself better and you're open and you're in
harmony with your own vibration, what happens, somebody walks into the room, they don't

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even have to open their mouth.

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And you know 90 % you need to know about them.

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And how could that be?

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Okay, because you didn't try to figure out anything.

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You didn't try to analyze them.

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You're not sitting there, okay, here's a checklist.

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It's, they walk in the room and they match up with your vibration.

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So you can feel where they're coming from.

214
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like, I'll give you an example.

215
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This is like where all the shockers and vibration that you're talking about.

216
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Okay.

217
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Let's cause we, you know, we've talked about like sex in other shows.

218
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let's talk about like somebody who's a sexy person.

219
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Cause they're people are really are sexy people and in sexy people often are very creative
people also.

220
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So I'm not saying it in just that obvious way, but for instance, is that if somebody is a
very

221
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sexually charged person.

222
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What it means is that they're very strong vibrationally coming out of that second chakra.

223
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Okay.

224
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And they're vibrating very strong there and perhaps even at a balance with the vibrational
quality of the rest of their being.

225
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So this is like accentuated.

226
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Okay, so this kind of like, it's just kind of like not an even vibrational quality.

227
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So somebody comes in and I can feel it in my second chakra because that's where I'm
getting hit at.

228
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They're hitting me at that vibrational quality.

229
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And you, you've experienced it because a lot of times you'll come, you'll meet somebody
for the first time and your first experiences that you don't know anything about them.

230
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It doesn't matter how they dress.

231
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It doesn't matter how they look.

232
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It doesn't matter.

233
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They walk.

234
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You look at them.

235
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And the first thing is,

236
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that's a really smart guy.

237
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That woman's really smart.

238
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And you're almost never wrong because they're hitting you right here.

239
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It's like where they're coming from.

240
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Even if you look at pictures of like National Geographic's different animals and you see
the primates and they just like look intelligent.

241
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But there's like this vibrational quality that's coming out of their head.

242
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Yeah.

243
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And you've that's where you feel it.

244
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It's like for instance, check this out if somebody's very intelligent and You immediately
recognize that You are acknowledging that mentally you don't feel it in your stomach you

245
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feel it in your head Similarly, let's say you're around somebody who's a very

246
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You know, very, very, a person with a very lot of personal power, ego,
self-identification, you know, a politician type.

247
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And you're around them, and they could be smart too, so you could feel it up here, but you
kind of feel it in your abdomen.

248
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Or let's say you're around somebody who's a very saintly person, very selfless kind, you
you feel it right, you actually feel warm here.

249
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Because...

250
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it's hitting you where you're vibrating as well.

251
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And to the extent that you are open in that area, you'll be able to actually even connect
more.

252
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So the way that I interact with people is I don't try to figure anybody out.

253
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There's nothing to figure out.

254
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I know where they're coming from.

255
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They don't have it.

256
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And they're always trying to convince me that this...

257
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It's funny with when I deal with people, they're always trying to convince me what they
think I want to hear.

258
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They're trying to show me it doesn't matter because I already know because your your
vibrational quality never lies that's how you get to the point that you get to point that

259
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people can't really lie to you or manipulate you because you do because you just you feel
it

260
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Right, it's just where you're coming from.

261
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And as you said, people are kind of on to it, but it's just not totally developed because
people have these, you know, they feel these vibes coming.

262
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And, you, and you know, for instance, um you know, I think the first time I ever kind of
acknowledged this, I think I was much younger, even when I was before into this thing,

263
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there was a friend of mine, I hadn't seen him.

264
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for probably 10, 15 years.

265
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I'm thinking about it.

266
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Everybody's had these stories.

267
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I hadn't seen them in 10 or 15 years, and I'm thinking about them.

268
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And as soon as I think about it and the phone rings, I pick it up and it's him.

269
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How could that be?

270
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And you could say, well, it's a coincidence.

271
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But actually, these higher vibrational qualities can actually travel.

272
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It's very hard to even contain them in time and space.

273
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So, for instance, I could be in China and my wife will be in New York and I'll just pick
up the phone and going, yeah, I know.

274
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I'm sorry.

275
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I mean, she's like thinking I can pick this up from like 6,000 miles away.

276
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How could that be?

277
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Nobody sent me a message.

278
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It's that there's something there and you're receptive to it.

279
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But you're receptive to it because you're vibrating with it.

280
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And so, yeah, so as we've talked about many things over the weeks, to me, this is just
another aspect of what it is to be a human being, is that part of being a human being or

281
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being in existence and reality is this fact that you are vibrational in quality.

282
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And to the extent that you can actually perceive that in yourself, you

283
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have a greater self-knowledge, you have knowledge of others and you're just ahead of the
game.

284
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m

285
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You have no choice whether you like it or not.

286
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You're putting something out there.

287
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Literally.

288
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You've got their parts of your body that have a resonance that have a tone that emit
essentially a sound through vibrate through vibration, but everybody does that.

289
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So.

290
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And I always tell people, you know, because a lot of people come and talk to me as
counselor.

291
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And one of the things that trips them up is they say, oh, you know, I'm gullible, I'm
vulnerable, you know, people take advantage of me, people lie to me, you know, I've been

292
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deceived, I've been betrayed.

293
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No, you haven't.

294
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You betrayed yourself.

295
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Who's lying to you?

296
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Who's betraying you?

297
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It was all there.

298
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You didn't pay attention, but really you were not paying attention to yourself.

299
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Because if you were paying attention to yourself, you would have known.

300
00:26:00,949 --> 00:26:04,221
And you weren't paying attention to yourself because the answer was not outside.

301
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The answer was inside of yourself.

302
00:26:06,492 --> 00:26:10,594
You weren't just feeling yourself.

303
00:26:10,638 --> 00:26:12,298
And you should trust yourself.

304
00:26:12,298 --> 00:26:15,118
I believe very, very strong in first impressions.

305
00:26:15,118 --> 00:26:17,918
People say you can't judge a book by its cover.

306
00:26:17,918 --> 00:26:18,938
I totally disagree.

307
00:26:18,938 --> 00:26:21,398
I think you totally judge a book by its cover.

308
00:26:21,398 --> 00:26:30,598
I totally trust my first impression with somebody and I don't trust anything afterwards
because then I'm trying to talk myself out of it because I have found that my first

309
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impression of people is always right.

310
00:26:32,638 --> 00:26:40,590
And I always get wrong when I have some personal interest because I want them to be
something other than what I know is true.

311
00:26:40,590 --> 00:26:49,019
But that first hit when I had no personal interest and no agenda, the first hit is always
the right hit.

312
00:26:49,941 --> 00:26:50,861
Yeah.

313
00:26:50,922 --> 00:26:53,264
So we do have this.

314
00:26:53,264 --> 00:26:58,770
We do have this uh capability to perceive that and we should trust it.

315
00:26:59,062 --> 00:27:00,043
Right.

316
00:27:00,405 --> 00:27:00,886
Yeah.

317
00:27:00,886 --> 00:27:09,585
mean, do you, in all of your travels, are there other cultures that, where this is more
kind of out in open?

318
00:27:12,541 --> 00:27:14,962
Yeah, in different ways.

319
00:27:15,102 --> 00:27:29,862
think that, like in this culture for instance, when I was saying, it was interesting we
were, I talking today, I was meeting a woman from Turkey today and we were talking about

320
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different cultures and we were talking about the people in New York and she was saying, I
thought it was true though, she was saying that on the one hand,

321
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She felt a lot of freedom here.

322
00:27:42,801 --> 00:27:45,926
But in New York, it's about how much money you have.

323
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And so I think there's some truth and some untruth to that, but I think the truth is, that
it's very hard in a place like this ah to totally feel yourself because everything is

324
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pushing you to measure yourself and what's going on outside of yourself.

325
00:28:13,057 --> 00:28:17,458
very hard to, it's challenging to be a reflective person here.

326
00:28:17,602 --> 00:28:18,763
I'll say that.

327
00:28:19,987 --> 00:28:21,824
You can be, but it's challenging.

328
00:28:21,824 --> 00:28:22,654
Right.

329
00:28:22,654 --> 00:28:33,317
I think on the whole, our culture is designed to be outside of yourself, to keep working,
to please other people.

330
00:28:33,317 --> 00:28:47,521
um Even though that sounds kind of counterintuitive with the whole capitalist idea, but I
think that maybe as a result of that, because not everybody in our society is their own

331
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boss.

332
00:28:48,201 --> 00:28:51,422
A lot of people in our society are employees.

333
00:28:51,700 --> 00:28:56,398
or um on the other end of the deal.

334
00:28:57,198 --> 00:29:05,545
Well, you know, like today, this woman I was telling you about, was telling me there's a
place in Turkey, in certain people, a certain place where they live.

335
00:29:05,565 --> 00:29:10,088
And she goes, they kiss the plants and the trees.

336
00:29:11,850 --> 00:29:23,951
And I'm going, but that's really an example of people being in touch with the vibrational
quality of things is that here the plants and trees are something that people always in

337
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that beautiful and all, but

338
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They're not in touch with themselves to understand that the plants and the trees are their
friends.

339
00:29:33,902 --> 00:29:38,822
I mean, that's a whole different level of interaction and understanding.

340
00:29:38,822 --> 00:29:52,362
mean, that's like beyond, I think even people who environmentalists aren't, I mean, some
environmentalists are, but, you know, that has to, it's still kind of a separate

341
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relationship.

342
00:29:54,322 --> 00:29:59,382
It's not really about integration and appreciation.

343
00:30:00,862 --> 00:30:02,222
It's sad.

344
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,591
You know, I think that we have to...

345
00:30:06,711 --> 00:30:08,472
It's not an emotional thing.

346
00:30:08,472 --> 00:30:10,272
It's a vibrational thing.

347
00:30:10,272 --> 00:30:12,873
I was on the subway the other day.

348
00:30:12,953 --> 00:30:14,553
I saw this woman there.

349
00:30:15,010 --> 00:30:16,994
I have seen this woman in my life.

350
00:30:18,154 --> 00:30:19,835
And I just looked at her.

351
00:30:20,270 --> 00:30:22,112
And thank God, I didn't even think about it.

352
00:30:22,112 --> 00:30:24,656
mean, nothing actually came into my head.

353
00:30:24,656 --> 00:30:26,717
It was just in the moment.

354
00:30:26,717 --> 00:30:28,897
I'm there and she just was sitting there.

355
00:30:28,897 --> 00:30:30,694
There's no apparent evidence of anything.

356
00:30:30,694 --> 00:30:31,958
She's just sitting there.

357
00:30:31,958 --> 00:30:35,764
I just looked at it said, it's going to be okay.

358
00:30:38,644 --> 00:30:42,837
And she was like stunned that I would say that to her.

359
00:30:43,398 --> 00:30:47,040
And she kind of was like, like, whoa.

360
00:30:47,501 --> 00:30:51,224
And she goes, uh thank you.

361
00:30:51,224 --> 00:30:53,726
needed somebody to remind me that.

362
00:30:54,347 --> 00:30:57,894
And there wasn't any iota of thought.

363
00:30:57,894 --> 00:31:03,778
It was kind of like, I just felt her.

364
00:31:03,778 --> 00:31:05,099
It just happened.

365
00:31:05,239 --> 00:31:06,180
Yeah.

366
00:31:06,180 --> 00:31:14,606
I've totally had experiences like that too, where it's like, I'll say something and then a
second later I'll catch up to what I've just said.

367
00:31:14,606 --> 00:31:16,918
And I'm like, where did that come from?

368
00:31:16,918 --> 00:31:18,308
I mean, for better or worse.

369
00:31:18,308 --> 00:31:28,138
Um, but we all have those moments where you just start kind of just in the flow and it's
not, it's not really a feeling of being overpowered either.

370
00:31:28,138 --> 00:31:32,034
Just sort of a feeling of like losing control for a second.

371
00:31:32,034 --> 00:31:41,652
But I thought you just said something like really important because again, these are like
cultural terms that get thrown around but are not highly developed.

372
00:31:41,652 --> 00:31:44,303
said about being in the flow.

373
00:31:44,985 --> 00:31:47,686
But actually what does that mean?

374
00:31:47,967 --> 00:31:53,131
Because what we're talking about today I think really gets the heart of it.

375
00:31:53,131 --> 00:31:57,564
You're in the flow when you're in harmony with vibrational.

376
00:31:58,570 --> 00:32:00,952
So there's a vibration to how things are.

377
00:32:00,952 --> 00:32:03,835
You're in the flow when you just kind of going with it.

378
00:32:03,835 --> 00:32:05,717
And then life is carefree.

379
00:32:05,717 --> 00:32:09,980
When you're fighting, you're not quite resonating in the flow.

380
00:32:09,980 --> 00:32:12,162
You're always a step ahead or behind.

381
00:32:12,162 --> 00:32:15,072
Yeah, you're creating dissonance.

382
00:32:15,276 --> 00:32:16,380
It doesn't sound good.

383
00:32:16,380 --> 00:32:18,246
m

384
00:32:18,446 --> 00:32:19,087
you know, it's funny.

385
00:32:19,087 --> 00:32:20,409
I'll give you an example of this.

386
00:32:20,409 --> 00:32:25,112
This was so many life stories about flowing and vibration.

387
00:32:25,193 --> 00:32:29,927
So again, I was, this is like a mom story, right?

388
00:32:29,927 --> 00:32:31,068
So I'm in Florida.

389
00:32:31,068 --> 00:32:32,639
Yeah.

390
00:32:32,639 --> 00:32:34,130
vibrational story about mom.

391
00:32:34,130 --> 00:32:34,520
Okay.

392
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:40,606
So I'm in Florida and she's, she's got a, she's got a new male friend, right?

393
00:32:40,606 --> 00:32:44,048
And so he's very smart guy.

394
00:32:44,129 --> 00:32:46,260
And she tells him that

395
00:32:49,057 --> 00:33:01,718
I was being interviewed for this law job and I didn't get the job, even though it's clear
that I have all the qualifications to do it.

396
00:33:01,718 --> 00:33:05,018
This guy was in the academic field and this really was bugging him.

397
00:33:05,018 --> 00:33:11,358
So he's trying to figure out, you know, why I didn't get the job, I get the job where I'm
a turban or I didn't have the qualifications.

398
00:33:11,358 --> 00:33:13,758
This was like keeping this guy up at night.

399
00:33:13,758 --> 00:33:16,478
So the guy, you know, he's trying to figure it out.

400
00:33:16,478 --> 00:33:19,379
as if it's like a problem to be solved.

401
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,341
So, you know, I think he was waiting to see me.

402
00:33:22,341 --> 00:33:26,114
So finally he sees me and he says, you know, I heard about this thing.

403
00:33:26,114 --> 00:33:27,074
You're not getting this job.

404
00:33:27,074 --> 00:33:28,695
I was trying to figure it out.

405
00:33:28,695 --> 00:33:30,226
didn't understand this.

406
00:33:30,226 --> 00:33:37,378
So, um, you know, he says, I have a theory and this is this, he's making this big
production out of it.

407
00:33:37,378 --> 00:33:44,114
And then he said, I said to him, said to him, you know, uh, I actually know why I didn't
get that job.

408
00:33:45,674 --> 00:33:48,462
I go, guy goes, really?

409
00:33:48,746 --> 00:33:49,727
Why?

410
00:33:50,054 --> 00:33:52,638
I said because it wasn't supposed to happen.

411
00:33:53,867 --> 00:33:54,592
Ha!

412
00:33:54,592 --> 00:34:01,825
And now he's like really confused because this is way out of his uh thinking pattern.

413
00:34:02,465 --> 00:34:09,168
But it's like the vibration of the universe is taking me in whatever direction it chooses.

414
00:34:09,608 --> 00:34:11,689
And I have to, I'll do my thing.

415
00:34:11,689 --> 00:34:20,033
By the end of the day, I have to trust that it's taking me where I need to go and not try
to swim upstream here.

416
00:34:20,033 --> 00:34:23,134
So if I was supposed to be there, I would have been there.

417
00:34:23,276 --> 00:34:26,098
And if I wasn't supposed to be there, I'm not there.

418
00:34:26,892 --> 00:34:27,842
Yeah.

419
00:34:27,902 --> 00:34:37,846
I mean, that's, that's a funny story because that guy thought he was doing such a mitzvah
worrying over you.

420
00:34:38,486 --> 00:34:43,888
And it's a totally, I mean, about going with the flow.

421
00:34:45,669 --> 00:34:55,473
I think you, you don't necessarily have to think that you're moving towards a destiny or
that the universe has something in mind for you.

422
00:34:55,473 --> 00:34:55,918
it's

423
00:34:55,918 --> 00:34:58,338
the quote unquote right direction.

424
00:34:58,598 --> 00:35:06,406
I think it's, I think it's okay to, to just understand it as one of the easiest paths to
take and live.

425
00:35:06,406 --> 00:35:16,352
Well, you know, you know what I think it is it's like I agree with you and we've talked
about this in other shows that I don't think it's that important really what your theory

426
00:35:16,352 --> 00:35:28,282
or your belief is about it in this case what I think you have to be is an excellent
boatsman You know I'm saying is like it's like okay who cares what the theory is It

427
00:35:28,282 --> 00:35:29,939
doesn't matter at the end.

428
00:35:29,939 --> 00:35:32,351
All that matters is is you're going down the stream.

429
00:35:32,351 --> 00:35:33,972
So you got to know how to navigate the river.

430
00:35:33,972 --> 00:35:34,922
Yeah

431
00:35:34,958 --> 00:35:46,638
I think it's knowing that it's a river, it's understanding what happened to you, it's
understanding what this world is, what this level is.

432
00:35:46,658 --> 00:35:53,258
mean, this is temporary and you can do what you want with it.

433
00:35:53,258 --> 00:36:00,998
But I think that people need to, they have a right to understand where they are and what
the...

434
00:36:01,248 --> 00:36:12,327
what the game is, what the, I keep saying game, I guess what I really mean is like, what
the rules are, like what the laws are, what the universe is, what is possible, what we

435
00:36:12,327 --> 00:36:12,850
are.

436
00:36:12,850 --> 00:36:30,697
Well, I think one of the rules and things that you mentioned is that a very important
aspect of what we are is our vibrational quality and that once you actually feel it and

437
00:36:30,697 --> 00:36:41,998
understand it is yet another reason not to be afraid to die because once you realize that
you are you are

438
00:36:41,998 --> 00:36:52,078
in that whole waveform, you can't destroy energy, can't destroy vibration.

439
00:36:52,218 --> 00:36:54,518
It just doesn't get destroyed.

440
00:36:55,858 --> 00:37:03,718
It manifests, it multiplies, it permeates, you can't kill it.

441
00:37:03,718 --> 00:37:10,198
You can kill many things, but you can't kill life.

442
00:37:11,370 --> 00:37:14,248
In the yogis talk about prana.

443
00:37:15,436 --> 00:37:16,194
What is porn?

444
00:37:16,194 --> 00:37:18,095
Now prana is life force.

445
00:37:19,036 --> 00:37:19,807
That's your life.

446
00:37:19,807 --> 00:37:27,482
So actually that is the difference between you being a human being and you ceasing
existing as a human being.

447
00:37:27,482 --> 00:37:31,384
It is just your pranic force.

448
00:37:31,465 --> 00:37:38,430
So there's something that would be called life force that is inhabiting the shell of your
body.

449
00:37:38,730 --> 00:37:43,153
The very second that that exits, you no longer are alive.

450
00:37:43,654 --> 00:37:44,564
But

451
00:37:44,770 --> 00:37:47,172
that energy doesn't disappear.

452
00:37:47,933 --> 00:37:52,136
That's why you can't die because your body can die.

453
00:37:52,136 --> 00:37:58,001
Basically the used car that you're inhabiting, that will be discarded.

454
00:37:58,001 --> 00:38:06,549
But the prana is still vibrational in quality and it will no longer inhabit this vehicle.

455
00:38:06,549 --> 00:38:12,933
But you can't destroy it because it's vibrational.

456
00:38:13,354 --> 00:38:15,754
It goes back to the original vibration.

457
00:38:15,754 --> 00:38:23,662
this again, this has to all goes back to people having a deeper appreciation of who they
are, that they're just not some lug.

458
00:38:24,163 --> 00:38:26,425
You you're just not taking up space.

459
00:38:26,425 --> 00:38:38,414
Although it would appear that many are doing very well at that, that there's something
very, uh very, uh very sparkly.

460
00:38:38,846 --> 00:38:43,692
very vibrational that accompanies you through everything.

461
00:38:43,692 --> 00:38:47,918
you can't, the thing is you can't disassociate from it.

462
00:38:47,918 --> 00:38:51,712
If you disassociate from it, then you feel empty.

463
00:38:51,990 --> 00:38:52,370
Right.

464
00:38:52,370 --> 00:39:05,898
Well, I think that a lot of it is that I think I had a breakthrough moment where I kind of
went through the looking glass and I started to understand that when people talk about

465
00:39:05,898 --> 00:39:18,455
vibration and everything that we're talking about, the really big picture of what we're
saying here about our being and infinity, that that wasn't metaphor, that that was talking

466
00:39:18,455 --> 00:39:19,846
about a

467
00:39:20,224 --> 00:39:24,236
Re a sense of reality, a certain physical reality, let's say.

468
00:39:24,236 --> 00:39:27,668
Um, I really didn't understand that.

469
00:39:27,668 --> 00:39:37,924
And I think even if somebody had, maybe even if somebody had spelled it out for me, the
way that I'm spelling it out right now, I don't know if I, if I even would be able to

470
00:39:37,924 --> 00:39:43,707
grasp that without having an experience of that.

471
00:39:43,707 --> 00:39:46,408
And for me, that was taking mushrooms.

472
00:39:46,408 --> 00:39:48,139
That was a psychedelic experience.

473
00:39:48,139 --> 00:39:49,910
And even though.

474
00:39:50,574 --> 00:40:02,709
you know, it's funny, I, before I took them and people would explain what tripping was
like, I would kind of think to myself, gosh, I kind of feel like I'm tripping all the time

475
00:40:02,709 --> 00:40:07,534
or I feel like that's something I just do or I can do or I used to do.

476
00:40:08,062 --> 00:40:16,965
And I thought that I also at the same time thought, wow, that must be a really naive
perspective on, um, psychedelic experiences.

477
00:40:16,965 --> 00:40:19,566
So, but that was funny, but now that I've.

478
00:40:19,566 --> 00:40:26,826
had a psychedelic experience, do think that I could say, I have been here before.

479
00:40:26,826 --> 00:40:31,146
This isn't totally, totally a new sensation.

480
00:40:31,146 --> 00:40:33,786
was way more intense.

481
00:40:33,786 --> 00:40:47,406
You know, I mean, it was a full, full on experience and not just like, you know, vibing in
the park on a Sunday afternoon, but, um, it was part of the same arena.

482
00:40:47,406 --> 00:40:48,366
I mean, it was the same.

483
00:40:48,366 --> 00:40:49,352
It was.

484
00:40:49,352 --> 00:40:52,784
access through the same kind of points.

485
00:40:53,045 --> 00:41:07,337
And I think that it was an important experience to bring back to the regular world and to
try to connect what you feel on just an average day to that kind of out of body

486
00:41:07,337 --> 00:41:08,658
experience.

487
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:18,875
Yeah, I think when you're talking about tripping, for instance, and I'm going now, I'm
stretching way, way back here because I used to like to do that another time in my life.

488
00:41:18,875 --> 00:41:27,560
ah But I think the thing that hooked me with the tripping was this.

489
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:36,325
And again, it gets back to what we're talking about today is that as a human being, you
have five doors of perception.

490
00:41:36,545 --> 00:41:38,478
So you basically see in the world

491
00:41:38,478 --> 00:41:42,509
through five windows, your senses.

492
00:41:42,509 --> 00:41:47,592
That's how you communicate with the outside world and take in information.

493
00:41:49,710 --> 00:41:52,551
That doesn't mean there's not lot more information out there.

494
00:41:52,751 --> 00:41:56,713
know, somebody who's blind has four, but maybe they have, you know, it's really
interesting.

495
00:41:56,713 --> 00:41:58,142
mean, I'm diverging a little bit.

496
00:41:58,142 --> 00:42:01,035
It reminds me, you're talking about the five doors of perception.

497
00:42:01,035 --> 00:42:03,776
In India, there is a tradition.

498
00:42:03,776 --> 00:42:15,761
It's really interesting that it's much different than this society is that if you're born
into this culture in India and you're born blind, it's considered to be a great blessing.

499
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:30,076
stigma it's considered to be a blessing because if you're born blind it means that you
were born with inner vision okay because because you're not distracted because the out of

500
00:42:30,076 --> 00:42:40,651
vision can be very beautiful but it actually could be very distracting so because you
don't have to deal with the stuff that's so distracting the outside you actually have

501
00:42:40,651 --> 00:42:42,648
inner vision and

502
00:42:42,648 --> 00:42:50,060
These people are immediately trained from the time they're born to be Ragis, which are
basically people who play Kirtan.

503
00:42:50,060 --> 00:43:04,364
They play devotional music because since they don't have um the outer vision, they have
inner vision and an enhanced sense of touch and of healing.

504
00:43:04,364 --> 00:43:12,326
So their other senses kind of are enhanced and now they become these great singers to
bring people into another space.

505
00:43:12,812 --> 00:43:14,484
It's very, very, it's very interesting.

506
00:43:14,484 --> 00:43:23,071
So, so this thing is, is that you talk about tripping is that, and I mean, I remember this
myself.

507
00:43:23,071 --> 00:43:32,218
I think what I learned from that myself when I was younger, I'm not, again, I'm saying I'm
not encouraging anybody to do this because I don't really don't think it's a good idea.

508
00:43:32,218 --> 00:43:41,526
But what I did get is that I found very intriguing was that it clearly

509
00:43:42,230 --> 00:43:51,738
I clearly had the experience of experiencing something that for the first time in my life,
I actually experienced something that was outside of my five senses.

510
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,662
So now we're talking about like a sixth sense.

511
00:43:56,103 --> 00:44:05,150
And so to me, this sixth sense is the ability to take in information vibrationally.

512
00:44:09,378 --> 00:44:11,849
That's not one of your like physical senses.

513
00:44:11,849 --> 00:44:20,874
So you, you have to have a very highly developed tuning fork inside because it's not
something that's, it's not like your nose, your ears.

514
00:44:20,874 --> 00:44:25,985
It's, it's like a full body experience of being able to, resonate.

515
00:44:26,386 --> 00:44:34,150
It needs you to resonate, it takes, it takes some skill to be able to actually use your
own being as a tuning fork.

516
00:44:34,262 --> 00:44:44,969
And this is really what I think that six senses, so people have just like, they talk about
the six sense, they just know, but there's no physical evidence, but actually they're

517
00:44:44,969 --> 00:44:50,312
vibrating something, something sensitive in their body that's vibrating the same frequency
with what's around them.

518
00:44:50,312 --> 00:44:54,054
So they just know and they just immediately act accordingly.

519
00:44:54,508 --> 00:44:55,418
Yes.

520
00:44:55,939 --> 00:44:59,442
Yeah, I think that's a great way of describing it.

521
00:44:59,442 --> 00:45:13,433
um I think that, I mean, it just sort of exemplifies and brings to life that there are
things that are unseen.

522
00:45:13,433 --> 00:45:17,577
And I mean, it makes you feel very much in communion.

523
00:45:17,577 --> 00:45:22,551
um But I think that that experience, it extends to all things.

524
00:45:22,551 --> 00:45:24,021
It extends to.

525
00:45:24,172 --> 00:45:28,985
the world, extends to people you're with in the moment.

526
00:45:30,026 --> 00:45:37,210
I mean, there's reported cases of um telepathy between people.

527
00:45:37,210 --> 00:45:39,511
And I think that that's real.

528
00:45:39,571 --> 00:45:49,197
And I think that um for whatever reason, that experience opens up that door, but I don't
think that it's closed.

529
00:45:49,237 --> 00:45:51,276
It's not closed without

530
00:45:51,276 --> 00:45:59,569
Psychedelics you can get there with meditation mindfulness, but for whatever reason
psychedelics just kick that door open

531
00:45:59,798 --> 00:46:11,084
Yeah, although the problem with psychedelics isn't a show on drugs necessarily, I just was
going to comment, even from my own experience, that the problem, okay, the helpful thing

532
00:46:11,084 --> 00:46:23,982
about psychedelics is what we just talked about, is that it introduces you to the
possibility that there's more than meets the eye and your life may be far more expansive

533
00:46:23,982 --> 00:46:25,872
than on first glance.

534
00:46:25,893 --> 00:46:27,133
Okay, and...

535
00:46:29,622 --> 00:46:31,323
and it opens the possibilities.

536
00:46:31,323 --> 00:46:33,543
Okay, so that's very valuable.

537
00:46:33,723 --> 00:46:41,765
The thing that's more problematic is that in and of itself, it is not a lasting
experience.

538
00:46:42,045 --> 00:46:51,628
Okay, so it can't sustain itself, which puts a person back into the state of not having
it, which could be very frustrating unless a person's very comfortable with themselves,

539
00:46:51,628 --> 00:46:52,898
but a lot of people are frustrated.

540
00:46:52,898 --> 00:46:57,029
Okay, because now they've tasted something that's really

541
00:46:58,678 --> 00:47:05,201
incredible and now they go back in there, you know, going back to the accountant for nine
to five minutes, another reality.

542
00:47:06,402 --> 00:47:07,663
It's too much too soon.

543
00:47:07,663 --> 00:47:18,033
So that's exactly what it is, is that to me there, this is what spiritual development and
yoga and things like this do is that it kind of like gives you this bigger experience, but

544
00:47:18,033 --> 00:47:25,893
it kind of like brings you along and develops you as a person so that you can integrate it
into your life in a productive way.

545
00:47:25,893 --> 00:47:27,896
So just taking a pill.

546
00:47:27,896 --> 00:47:34,205
does and you have an experience doesn't mean that you can actually integrate that
experience into your life.

547
00:47:34,205 --> 00:47:37,950
That's very, very problematic.

548
00:47:37,950 --> 00:47:42,566
that's what really causes some people tremendous difficulties with this.

549
00:47:42,630 --> 00:47:44,830
I can, I think I can relate to that.

550
00:47:44,830 --> 00:47:53,030
think that I've, I've seen people who have used the experience.

551
00:47:53,030 --> 00:48:02,170
mean, they, they've, they have the experience and it's not, it's not a frivolous, uh,
recreational experience.

552
00:48:02,170 --> 00:48:08,890
They do treat it as a genuine spiritual experience and something that they, changes their
life forever.

553
00:48:08,970 --> 00:48:12,192
But, um, I've also seen.

554
00:48:12,192 --> 00:48:26,262
Instances where it does not work out well for people and it I I mean I totally agree with
you but I think that for people who Who choose it as a path or choose it as a method and

555
00:48:26,262 --> 00:48:29,154
are Developed enough to handle it.

556
00:48:29,154 --> 00:48:37,149
I think it's a very powerful one because For me, it hasn't brought I mean, it's definitely
a high high.

557
00:48:37,149 --> 00:48:41,366
It's definitely not something that I've been able to um

558
00:48:41,366 --> 00:48:53,576
Conjure up on my own since but the door is Not totally closed and I think it shows you at
least it showed me that the door is never totally closed.

559
00:48:53,576 --> 00:49:06,507
It was more about me Understanding what these things were, you know, I never understood
for instance And I think this is a I think this is a real this is an example of vibration

560
00:49:06,507 --> 00:49:10,730
existing It like when you close your eyes at night

561
00:49:10,784 --> 00:49:20,587
You see geometric patterns and you see them, you know, mean, you essentially see them all
the time, but your brain just filters them out.

562
00:49:20,587 --> 00:49:31,921
And I mean, I think it's really interesting that in terms of your perception, you're the
information that your eye is sending to your brain is only a fraction of what your brain

563
00:49:31,921 --> 00:49:35,102
cobbles together as the image that you're seeing.

564
00:49:35,182 --> 00:49:36,842
That's right, it cobbles it together.

565
00:49:36,842 --> 00:49:37,814
That's exactly it.

566
00:49:37,814 --> 00:49:39,854
just, happens very quickly.

567
00:49:39,854 --> 00:49:43,134
And, um, I mean, it's, it's, it's creepy.

568
00:49:43,134 --> 00:49:44,114
It's tricky.

569
00:49:44,114 --> 00:49:46,814
mean, I definitely, I, yes.

570
00:49:46,814 --> 00:49:51,074
And your memory is producing itself in your mind.

571
00:49:51,154 --> 00:49:57,714
So anyway, I think that, um, the geometric patterns that you see when you close your eyes
are a real example of this thing.

572
00:49:57,714 --> 00:50:04,394
And when you, mean, when you're tripping the, it's, it's very pronounced.

573
00:50:04,394 --> 00:50:07,328
I mean, to the point that you'll be looking at a wall, but

574
00:50:07,328 --> 00:50:10,660
And, know, on a regular day, it's just a plain white wall.

575
00:50:10,660 --> 00:50:21,026
But when you're tripping, you're seeing the cathedrals of Paris, you know, I mean, you're
seeing these insane, these very complex patterns.

576
00:50:21,026 --> 00:50:26,909
And I think that that's just because that part of your brain is, is more open.

577
00:50:26,909 --> 00:50:28,710
You're making those connections.

578
00:50:28,710 --> 00:50:36,414
I think you could argue whether like what it is you're actually seeing, whether you're
seeing something that inside of your own head or whether.

579
00:50:36,430 --> 00:50:44,110
You, your senses are really heightened and you're looking at the, um, the golden ratio.

580
00:50:44,110 --> 00:50:51,350
You're looking at the fractal geometry that exists in nature is the way that things are.

581
00:50:51,350 --> 00:50:54,870
It's just how things are made around here in this universe.

582
00:50:54,870 --> 00:51:05,902
Um, so I think that's the question, but, um, yeah, for me, it, it revealed and almost like
fortified something that

583
00:51:05,902 --> 00:51:16,162
I had been experiencing my whole life and that everybody experiences, you know, and to a
greater or lesser extent you wonder about it, you think about it, you use it, you know,

584
00:51:16,162 --> 00:51:20,902
and I think that those senses are there to guide you.

585
00:51:20,902 --> 00:51:31,078
So the more experiences you have of those senses, the more real they become and the more
that you inhabit them, the more that you use them in your daily life.

586
00:51:33,073 --> 00:51:42,554
So I just think that this whole vibrational thing, you know, even mentally, you know,
this, I don't know if you ever heard of Napoleon Hill.

587
00:51:42,554 --> 00:51:46,434
I I mentioned to you, but a very, very influential writer.

588
00:51:47,094 --> 00:51:56,654
And I would recommend anybody in the audience to read his, he's written some very famous
books, like a hundred years ago, like Think and Grow Rich, The Laws of Success, very

589
00:51:56,654 --> 00:51:58,134
influential guy.

590
00:51:58,194 --> 00:52:00,714
And he had this idea.

591
00:52:00,906 --> 00:52:09,150
One of the major foundations of his teachings were this idea of the mastermind.

592
00:52:09,711 --> 00:52:17,255
He said that just about every successful man and woman in the world have used what he
called to be the mastermind.

593
00:52:17,255 --> 00:52:30,982
What the mastermind is the conscious uh combination of more than one person to actually
take the vibrational

594
00:52:31,246 --> 00:52:42,246
qualities of their minds and actually put them together to create something that's more
powerful than the vibration of their own individual mind.

595
00:52:43,542 --> 00:52:44,142
Wow.

596
00:52:44,142 --> 00:52:49,866
So they would visualize this and this is the vibration that they.

597
00:52:49,866 --> 00:52:56,226
they just actually just choose to collectively put their vibrations together.

598
00:52:56,226 --> 00:53:08,406
And actually it's a really interesting story and he claims that when the United States
transformed itself into industrial society, that the people we even know to this day,

599
00:53:08,406 --> 00:53:13,666
Rockefeller, Flagler, Carnegie,

600
00:53:13,940 --> 00:53:28,018
Melon those guys these big, you know, they owned all the yeah, they were all friends Yeah,
but it wasn't just that they were friends who kind of kind of plotted together to jointly

601
00:53:28,018 --> 00:53:36,303
do it they actually had the conscious intent that We are going to this small group of
people.

602
00:53:36,303 --> 00:53:42,646
We are going to collectively join our energies and our mental vibration

603
00:53:43,103 --> 00:53:47,310
to to actually run the United States

604
00:53:47,704 --> 00:53:51,840
So are you talking about the Illuminati right now?

605
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:53,421
Are you talking about...

606
00:53:54,382 --> 00:54:09,882
Any group, any group, any group of people, it's like any church, anything, it's this, so
when people pull, pull their vibrational quality, gets, you, anywhere from, you know, I go

607
00:54:09,882 --> 00:54:14,282
to India and go to the Golden Temple, and there's this energy there.

608
00:54:14,282 --> 00:54:24,364
So you think that, okay, it's 300 years, for 24 hours a day, for 300 years, thousands of
people have been in this very small place.

609
00:54:24,364 --> 00:54:25,584
and all I've done is pray.

610
00:54:25,584 --> 00:54:27,355
Okay.

611
00:54:27,355 --> 00:54:29,315
That's very vibrational.

612
00:54:29,315 --> 00:54:34,957
So when you there, you feel this vibrational quality that's startling.

613
00:54:35,177 --> 00:54:35,537
Okay.

614
00:54:35,537 --> 00:54:41,059
Then I could be watching a propaganda film of the Nazis in the thirties.

615
00:54:41,059 --> 00:54:44,006
You have Hitler up there and you've got tens of thousands.

616
00:54:44,006 --> 00:54:45,560
It's powerful stuff.

617
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:54,092
Not so enlightening, but everybody's kind of pulling their vibrational quality.

618
00:54:54,188 --> 00:54:59,501
but it's not really coming from a very high place, but it's very powerful.

619
00:54:59,962 --> 00:55:02,763
So powerful that we all know what they did.

620
00:55:04,364 --> 00:55:09,987
But it's actually, it's not so much that it's just people working together towards a
common goal.

621
00:55:09,987 --> 00:55:15,331
It's actually that as human beings, they all have a vibrational quality.

622
00:55:15,331 --> 00:55:20,193
They all pool their vibrational quality and now there's an ocean of it.

623
00:55:20,450 --> 00:55:21,262
Yes.

624
00:55:21,262 --> 00:55:29,142
All right, so this is any this you go to football stadium and go to a bowling game, you
know, it's like I've actually seen this.

625
00:55:29,142 --> 00:55:29,842
I've been in a sport.

626
00:55:29,842 --> 00:55:31,202
I'm a big sports fan.

627
00:55:31,202 --> 00:55:37,442
I've seen this and I've actually seen a crowd will a team to win.

628
00:55:37,622 --> 00:55:38,522
You see it all.

629
00:55:38,522 --> 00:55:40,502
And why is it you ever watch the Olympics?

630
00:55:40,502 --> 00:55:41,322
Really interesting.

631
00:55:41,322 --> 00:55:43,082
You watch the Olympics every four years.

632
00:55:43,082 --> 00:55:50,362
And how is it that a team like from England that never wins a medal now is winning medals?

633
00:55:50,398 --> 00:55:58,160
Every time uh a country hosts the Olympics, you haven't noticed that even if they've never
won a medal, now they're winning medals.

634
00:55:58,160 --> 00:55:59,720
How are they winning medals?

635
00:55:59,741 --> 00:56:03,602
It's not like somebody is throwing the games there.

636
00:56:03,602 --> 00:56:09,723
It's kind of like the athletes are like being willed to win.

637
00:56:09,843 --> 00:56:17,945
But the energy around them is like so intense that they actually will this person to win
that never should be winning.

638
00:56:18,606 --> 00:56:20,246
You see it all the time.

639
00:56:20,364 --> 00:56:26,798
Yeah, that's, I mean, that's what people talk about the power of prayer, but I also.

640
00:56:27,774 --> 00:56:32,883
Our vibration power, positive thinking, the secret.

641
00:56:33,104 --> 00:56:34,174
It's all the same thing.

642
00:56:34,174 --> 00:56:45,643
And I, you know, it's really actually one of the most, it's very, it's, see it kind of in
lots of religions too, or, or basic ethics.

643
00:56:45,643 --> 00:56:47,734
And I mean, it really says that.

644
00:56:47,734 --> 00:56:52,835
your thoughts and feelings about a certain thing become manifest.

645
00:56:52,835 --> 00:57:02,518
know, so whether you look at that from a very personal perspective, like if you have bad
feelings about yourself, those things will start to take root and become true.

646
00:57:02,518 --> 00:57:07,180
It's true with your family, your friends, your community, your world.

647
00:57:07,180 --> 00:57:15,520
And that's really, I mean, so whatever your thoughts are become manifest so they can be
positive, they can be negative.

648
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:17,911
And the thoughts are vibrational.

649
00:57:18,331 --> 00:57:22,893
And it's just, and even some thing that's more about kindness.

650
00:57:22,893 --> 00:57:23,183
Yeah.

651
00:57:23,183 --> 00:57:28,985
How many, mean, how many times has anybody said in their life, you know, that really
touched me.

652
00:57:28,985 --> 00:57:31,306
You touched me, but they actually did.

653
00:57:31,306 --> 00:57:34,377
I mean, it's not just saying they actually felt.

654
00:57:35,098 --> 00:57:36,709
It might, it's not a metaphor.

655
00:57:36,709 --> 00:57:45,166
You actually were touched because like, for instance, a human being, the place that you
normally.

656
00:57:45,166 --> 00:57:51,626
get the strongest feeling as a human being, because it's like where everything intersects.

657
00:57:51,626 --> 00:57:53,566
As a human being is at your heart.

658
00:57:54,306 --> 00:57:54,826
That's the inter...

659
00:57:54,826 --> 00:58:01,706
as a human being, the thing that really makes you human being is your heart, because
that's where all the other things kind of intersect.

660
00:58:01,706 --> 00:58:03,126
It's right in the middle.

661
00:58:03,206 --> 00:58:04,606
And it's right here.

662
00:58:04,606 --> 00:58:10,166
And so something touches you, you actually feel it in your chest.

663
00:58:10,746 --> 00:58:13,510
And what you're feeling is...

664
00:58:13,580 --> 00:58:26,217
that same thing coming, you're resonating with somebody else who has exactly the same,
he's a brother, a sister in the world and there's another human being, there's something

665
00:58:26,217 --> 00:58:35,162
that happened and you're touched because it actually resonates at the exact same frequency
that your heart chakra resonates.

666
00:58:35,162 --> 00:58:41,365
So you feel it at this very, very infinite deep level right in the chest.

667
00:58:41,365 --> 00:58:43,356
So you go, wow, that really touched me.

668
00:58:44,886 --> 00:58:48,718
And so people don't, it doesn't change anything because you know, it's fine.

669
00:58:48,718 --> 00:59:02,056
You don't need an explanation for everything, but ah it's just good to know that your,
your whole body is like a tuning fork and you, there is these vibrational qualities.

670
00:59:02,056 --> 00:59:11,902
And to the extent that you devote your life to opening yourself up and being conscious,
you're able to be in touch with yourself, with others.

671
00:59:12,539 --> 00:59:17,194
and really experience the vibrational quality of your true being.

672
00:59:18,408 --> 00:59:19,998
Vibrations are real.

673
00:59:20,258 --> 00:59:21,707
Vibrations are real.

674
00:59:25,391 --> 00:59:27,552
Thanks for listening to Warrior Saint.

675
00:59:27,552 --> 00:59:32,294
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676
00:59:32,494 --> 00:59:34,055
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677
00:59:34,055 --> 00:59:38,497
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678
00:59:38,497 --> 00:59:40,398
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679
00:59:40,398 --> 00:59:45,001
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680
00:59:45,001 --> 00:59:46,141
I'm Fanny Cohen.

681
00:59:46,141 --> 00:59:47,622
Thanks for listening.

682
01:00:17,947 --> 01:00:19,028
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