Napkin Math

Saba and Charlie do napkin math on the Cal AI acquisition by MyFitnessPal, share two must-do growth strategies for 2026 (API-first and Social SEO), and break down how Intercom bet the whole company on AI and won.

Timecodes:
00:00 – Intro
00:33 – Cal AI Acquisition Breakdown
19:20 – Growth Strategy #1: Go API-First
29:33 – Growth Strategy #2: Social SEO
36:46 – How Intercom Saved Itself with AI
44:27 – The Future of Outcome-Based Pricing
49:28 – Wrap up

Creators and Guests

Host
Charlie Ward
Founder: Ramen Club, Ramen Space & Cosy
Host
Sabba Keynejad
Co-founder, VEED.IO

What is Napkin Math?

Join Sabba Keynejad (co-founder of VEED.io) and Charlie Ward (founder of Ramen Club, Ramen Space & Cosy) as they dive deep into the world of startups, AI, and the latest tech trends. These two legends of the London indie scene bring their no-nonsense, real-world insights to help founders, builders, and indie hackers navigate the highs and lows of entrepreneurship. Expect candid conversations, actionable takeaways, and the occasional hot take on where the future of business is headed.

Whether you're bootstrapping your way to success or scaling your next big idea, Napkin Math is your go-to podcast for unfiltered discussions on what it really takes to win in the startup game.