Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.
Today’s episode is one of evergreen importance. We talk with one of the pioneers in the evergreen fund space.
Rob Collins, a Partner, Co-Head of Private Wealth, and Head of the New York office and a member of the Global Executive Board at
Partners Group, a $147B+ AUM alternative asset manager, joins the podcast to discuss how Partners Group started the evergreen fund space in the early 2000s.
Rob has deeply evolved perspectives on both evergreen funds and working with the wealth channel. He leads Partners Group’s US private wealth and defined contribution practice and is President, Portfolio Manager, and Member of the Board of Managers of Partners Group Private Equity (Master Fund), LLC. He also chairs Partners Group USA’s Investment Committee. He joined the firm in 2005, only 4 years after Partners Group was the first firm to launch an evergreen private equity structure.
Rob and I had a fascinating conversation about what evergreen funds are, the mechanics of how they work, and why they can make sense for investors – both individual and institutions. We discussed:
- What Partners Group saw in the early 2000s that made them decide to create the evergreen private equity fund structure.
- Why it’s taken the industry time to adopt evergreen funds.
- How to think about returns with evergreen funds.
- Why institutions — in addition to wealth advisors — have used evergreen funds.
- Why the time, money, and liability questions of private equity fund investments make evergreens a fit for many advisors.
- The importance of compounding and how it relates to evergreen funds.
- The challenges and nuances with managing evergreen funds.
- Why “life is too short for capital calls.”
- How does private equity go from being sold to being bought?
- What can the industry do to continue to remove pain points for the wealth channel?
Thanks Rob for coming on the show to share your thoughts and wisdom on private markets and the importance of one of the biggest trends in private markets, evergreen funds. We hope you enjoy.
Show Notes00:00 Introduction to Ultimus Fund Solutions
01:18 Podcast Opening and Theme Song
01:52 Welcome to Alt Goes Mainstream
01:59 Introducing Rob Collins and Evergreen Funds
02:24 Rob Collins' Background and Role at Partners Group
04:18 Growth and Innovation at Partners Group
05:46 Evergreen Solutions for Clients
07:02 The Importance of Flexibility in Evergreen Funds
09:56 Evergreen Funds vs. Traditional Structures
11:38 The Rise of Evergreen Funds
29:48 Challenges and Risks of Evergreen Structures
30:01 Balancing Growth and Performance in Evergreen Funds
34:57 Challenges for General Partners
35:40 Expanding with New Products
36:23 Trends in Private Markets
36:56 Evergreen Funds and Private Companies
37:27 Life is Too Short for Capital Calls
38:52 Shift from Public to Private Markets
40:24 Liquidity in Evergreen Funds
41:50 Building a Resilient Diversified Portfolio
43:05 Managing Investor Expectations
44:26 Control in Portfolio Construction
46:48 Positioning Evergreen Funds
52:13 Evergreen vs. Closed-End Funds
54:43 Innovating Asset Allocation Frameworks
57:12 Educating Distribution Professionals
01:00:26 Consultative Sales Approach for Evergreen Sales Professionals
01:02:03 Future Growth in Private Markets
01:03:47 Rob’s Favorite Alternative Investment
A word from AGM podcast sponsor, Ultimus Fund Solutions
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