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<v 0>How are we doing? Hope. We need church.

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We are honored to have you both in person and online. Come with you.

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Stand up and sing with us. There's joy in the house today. Come on,

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put those hands together.

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Come on. This is the.

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<v 1>Day.

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<v 0>This is the day you made. Oh,

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so rejoice, Cindy, glad rejoice and be glad in it.

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Come on every hand together.

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Come on where I,

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that you're more than enough me.

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You are faithful, you unfaithful to your promise.

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You are strong. And I,

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when I'm standing in your presence, I,

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everything I you believe.

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<v 1>It.

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<v 0>Ing out the joy of the Lord. The joy of the Lord is my strength.

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The joy, the Lord, the joy of the Lord is my strength.

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Soul, bless name

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joy. The joy.

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<v 1>Is my strength.

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<v 0>Jesus,

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you are worthy of all my praise.

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You're faithful to your promise. You're

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The joy, the joy of the is strength.

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<v 1>The.

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<v 0>Joy, the joy of

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is me.

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<v 1>Oh, that.

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<v 0>Is say the joy.

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<v 1>The

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holy,

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holy,

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joy.

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<v 2>The joy of the.

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<v 1>Lord is ing my,

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oh my bless his name, that

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name that soul.

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<v 2>You see,

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<v 0>For

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fight has lifted

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God, the battle long to

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<v 1>Against me.

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<v 0>Jesus.

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<v 1>For

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<v 0>Ashe.

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<v 1>Re, you, us.

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<v 0>Nothing can stand.

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<v 1>Against the crown. You in the.

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<v 4>We've got a new song to introduce today.

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And I love this song because it declares the holiness and the true nature of the

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one living God. So Lord, right now, we just cry out, holy,

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holy are you.

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<v 3>God.

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<v 4>You are worthy Jesus.

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<v 3>Thousand generations falling down in

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to sing the song of.

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<v 1>And.

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<v 3>All

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and all who will believe,

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will sing the song of ages to the Lamb.

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Your name is the highest,

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your name is the greatest in your name

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is stands above

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thems powers. Position your name

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stands above them all. Cry.

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<v 1>Holy.

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<v 3>All creation cries.

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<v 1>Holy.

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<v 3>He'll, dead.

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<v 1>Holy.

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<v 3>Holy.

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<v 1>Forever.

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in freedom

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<v 1>Forever.

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<v 1>And.

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name is the highest.

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Your name is the greatest in.

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<v 1>Your name,

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the king.

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<v 5>Come on y'all. Let's give God some praise.

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Well, listen, welcome to Hope Community Church. My name's Dwayne.

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I'm one of the pastors here.

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And this has already been a wonderful opportunity for us to glorify God.

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And that's the goal tonight. Uh, if you are new to hope,

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I want to extend a special welcome, uh,

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to you and let you know that we're glad that you are here today. Uh, listen,

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we are excited about this time together.

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We've been in a series for the past few weeks that we've been calling verse by

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verse. And today you're gonna hear from Aaron Nelson. Now,

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Aaron is a part of our teaching team at Hope.

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It is gonna be a phenomenal message. I've had the privilege of hearing it,

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and we're gonna have you outta here in about an hour, uh,

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at the end of service today. If you're new, we'd love to meet you.

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We have an area called Next Steps. As you exit, please make sure you stop.

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Let us know that you were neither, you're new,

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and if there's any way that we can possibly serve you, uh,

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we will do everything that we can to help have you feel welcome,

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and also to help you to take steps of faith as you follow Jesus,

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maybe even some of you for the very first time. Now, last week, uh,

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if you were here,

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you know that we kicked off a whole slate of classes that are ahead. And so,

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uh, classes at Hope Community Church are a great way for people to grow in their

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relationship with Jesus Christ.

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And one of the best classes is a class called Hope for Parents.

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We have seen some phenomenal impact in that class,

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and God is clearly on the move. So in just a moment,

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I'm gonna have you greet your neighbor,

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take a seat and check out this story from Hope for Parents. Go ahead,

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greet your neighbor, take a seat, and then we'll watch this video.

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<v 6>All right. We are Rhonda and Brad Brower.

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We have been married for almost eight years,

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and we have two boys, Kayden, who is five, and Callen,

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who is two and a half.

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<v 7>Originally,

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when we started thinking about how to just improve our parenting,

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I think, um, we really felt that there was a,

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a war on the family, you know, that, that life was just,

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just seemed to be getting a little chaotic, a little out of control.

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As our kids began to get a little bit older,

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we noticed that they were getting their own personalities and they were,

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you know, starting to wanna make their own, uh, decisions.

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They were becoming more independent, and we just needed some help.

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We needed some assistance. We wanted people to speak into our lives.

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That had been where we had been. I think that was probably the,

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the main emphasis of why,

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what drew us to hope for parents as we started the Hope for Parents class. Um,

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some of the things that really stood out to us was just the idea that

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what our calling is as parents, what God calls us to really do as parents,

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how we're to, um, lead our kids, how we disciple our kids, and, and, and really,

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um, defining what that role is. And there's this concept of my me kingdom,

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which really just takes us back to our sin disposition right now.

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Every time I can see a situation where my kid is having,

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or my child's having this, uh, you know, sinful disposition,

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I can really relate it to my relationship with God.

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And I can start to relay that to my children.

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I can start to respond with grace and understanding and love and forgiveness.

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There was one particular, um, defining moment or even like come to Jesus moment,

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um, with our oldest Caden, Caden participates in soccer at XL Sports at Apex.

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And, um, it was Wednesday,

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which happens to be the day that I have my Mitten's group happens to be the day

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where, you know, I'm studying and I'm, I'm reading through, um,

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the Hope for Parents Study Guide and, uh, the coach comes off the field,

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taps me on the shoulder. I was not paying attention unfortunately, and says,

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Hey, Caden's not gonna be allowed to,

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to participate in practice for the rest of practice. Um,

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he's really had a challenge pushing other kids. And,

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and it was just having these, like physical altercations,

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wasn't listening to the coach and was asked repeatedly, um,

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to stop doing what he was doing. And so as I was driving home,

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I was texting with my, um, hope for Men's group, uh, or Hope for Parents Group.

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And, um, they were saying, Hey, see, this is an opportunity.

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This could be an opportunity to put, um, you know,

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what we've been learning into practice. Um, and I set Caden down. Um,

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and what that conversation sounded like was, you know, Hey bud, you know,

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let's talk through what really caused this. And he said, well,

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I was being pushed first. And his natural response was, I'm going to push back.

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I'm gonna defend myself, I'm gonna do this. We sat there and we prayed together.

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We asked for forgiveness, um, for both of us, right?

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And so one of the things that came out of this is it was probably the most joy

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I've had in disciplining my child. Um, there was no regret,

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there was no guilt or shame of like, did I do the right thing?

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Did I do the wrong thing?

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It was just an opportunity to show him that there's nothing he could do for me

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to love him anymore. There's nothing he could do for me to love him any less.

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And it was the same response that we get from our God and our father every

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single day. Some of the things that we've taken away from,

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from the Hope for Parents class is that we're not alone. Um,

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you know, in raising our children that the challenges that we see as parents,

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we're not on an island that,

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that other parents are going through these things as well.

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And we have a community that's bought into, um,

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really partnering with us to do the best job we can, we can, um,

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to raise our, our kids, um, in the light of the gospel.

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<v 8>That's, uh, that's such a beautiful story, man. I love that. Um, hey, look,

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we're gonna go ahead and hop right into things here. Uh,

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but I wanna start off really briefly, uh,

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by giving you a little bit of a peek behind the curtain,

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and I mean that literally, okay? Uh,

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normally right before I come out here to share, uh,

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behind that curtain right over there, uh,

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I stand there and I pray a prayer that says, uh, holy Spirit,

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even though I'm gonna have on a microphone,

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I pray that your voice will be louder than my own.

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Pray that every time before I get ready to walk out here.

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But then we come out here and we start talking and we get in the groove and

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maybe the confidence sets in and stuff. I'm like, yeah,

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I think the Holy Spirit spoke through that. Um,

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but what I wanna do is I actually wanna leave some space.

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I wanna leave some room for the Holy Spirit to speak for himself before you

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start to hear from me. So, uh, as you probably know,

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over the past couple of weeks, we've been in this series called verse by verse,

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and we've been walking through Romans chapter eight verse by verse.

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And so we're gonna continue to do that here today,

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but I actually wanna lead you, uh, through an exercise, uh,

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to try to help familiarize you with the text before we get into it. Uh,

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hopefully you've been reading along in this chapter with us.

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Maybe you've read ahead a little bit and so you kind of anticipate what we're

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gonna talk about today. But the passage we're gonna look at,

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it's so rich that there's no way I'm gonna be able to cover everything in there

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in the limited time that we have today. So, uh,

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we're just gonna leave a little bit of margin. I'm gonna lead some,

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leave some space for the Holy Spirit to speak. And so I'm gonna start, uh,

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by reading our passage and then we're gonna put it up on the screen.

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We're gonna let you read it silently to yourself,

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and then I'm gonna read it one more time. Okay? So let's go ahead and start.

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This is Romans chapter eight, verses 26 through 30. And it says this,

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it says, likewise,

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the Spirit helps us in our weakness for we do not know

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what to pray for as we ought,

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but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groanings too

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deep for words.

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And he who searches hearts knows what is the mind of the spirit because the

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spirit intercedes for the saints according to the will of God.

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And we know that for those who love God, all things work together for good,

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for those who are called according to his purpose, for those whom he for knew.

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He also predestined to be conformed to the image of his son in order that

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he might be the firstborn among many brothers and those whom he

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predestined, he also called,

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and those whom he called he also justified.

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And those whom he justified, he also glorified.

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Listen, as I mentioned, there's a ton in there. And so, uh,

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here's what we're gonna do.

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I'm just gonna pray for you really quick at all of our campuses. Uh,

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I'm gonna pray that over the next minute or so as you read through this passage

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on your own, just as the Holy Spirit will speak loudly and clearly to you,

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will you pray with me? Father, thank you.

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Thank you for the depths of the riches of your word.

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I just pray right now that as my friends, uh, read slowly through this passage,

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and as we get ready to dive into this together,

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that your Holy Spirit would begin to reveal to us the truths that you have for

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us, uh, in this passage. It's in Jesus' name we pray. Amen.

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Go ahead and read this passage to yourself.

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I'll go ahead and, and read it one more time, and again,

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just kind of sit under it. I want you to listen. I've,

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and they're kind of in there and I've been thinking about them.

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I've literally been losing sleep over them,

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thinking about all the stuff that's in here. And so I just want you for,

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for the moment, uh, don't think about the weather,

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don't think about the drive here,

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don't think about the argument you got in with your kids.

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Just focus in on these few verses. I'm gonna read it one more time. Likewise,

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the Spirit helps us in our weakness for we do not know what to

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pray for as we ought,

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but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words.

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And he who searches hearts knows what is the mind of the spirit because the

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spirit intercedes for the saints according to the will of God.

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And we know that for those who love God, all things work together for good,

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for those who were called according to his purpose, for those whom he for knew.

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He also predestined to be conformed to the image of his son in order that he

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might be the first born among many brothers and those whom he

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predestined, he also called. And those whom he called, he also justified.

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And those whom he justified, he also glorified.

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Listen, the Bible tells us that the word of God is living and active.

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And I think there's a reality that there may be some things you recognize on the

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second reading that you didn't catch in the first,

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and there's probably some things you picked up on in the third reading that you

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didn't notice in the first or in the second. Uh, and as we go through that, man,

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there's just so much.

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So I just wanna take a quick poll of the room at all of our campuses,

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wherever you are, you can play along with this. Uh,

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raise your hand if you are familiar with that passage before today.

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raise your hand if you are like familiar with some of that passage before today.

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Okay. Probably Romans 8 28, right? The all things work together for good.

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That's the one that I think a lot of us are really common with. Uh,

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how many of you, during that time of reading, uh, by show of hands, um,

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how many of you had something you noticed in there that maybe you didn't notice

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before? Or maybe that the,

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the Holy Spirit just kind of pointed out to you and said, Hey,

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did you ever catch this part? If that was you, go ahead and raise your hand.

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I think that's really cool. Alright, now, how many of us, um,

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had a moment somewhere in there through reading these five verses where you say,

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yep, that's confusing. I don't really know what that means.

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And that word's too big. Anybody? Yes, those are my people, .

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That's right. Listen,

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these five verses are really tough to wrap our minds around.

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As a matter of fact, they are five of the most, uh, controversial, uh,

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most debated verses in all of scripture. Uh, Romans eight,

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we've talked about how it's kind of the pinnacle of this letter to the Romans.

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However, uh, there's these few verses,

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it's kind of a spot that a lot of people don't really know what to do with them.

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So what happens? Well,

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the first part's a little bit confusing and the back part's a little bit

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confusing. So we just kinda move both of those to the side.

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We pull out that one in the middle verse 28, and we say, yo,

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let's stitch that one on a pillow and send it to grandma. Right?

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All things work together.

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That's the part that we really like and we find ourselves kind of bogged down

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and confused in these other words,

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like called and glorified and justified and predestined and all this stuff.

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argument that has come out of this passage about, well,

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what is the heart of God really? Like, what's my life really like?

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Has everything been predetermined for me or is there free will? Let me tell you,

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I'm glad you came this weekend,

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but we're not gonna answer all of those questions .

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We can't possibly do it in the amount of time that we have together.

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But what I do wanna do is I wanna hone in on one word that's in there that I

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think offers, uh, so much richness and so much meaning

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that our understanding of that word actually changes the way we view the five

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verses in totality. And it's not one of the big ones,

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it's actually one of the smaller ones that's in there. It's the word. Good,

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good. It's, it's probably the least complex word in the entire passage. However,

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I think it's the one that leads us down the path that complicates everything

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else that we read here. Lemme tell you what I mean.

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I have a group chat with a group of friends of mine, uh,

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five guys who I love dearly. And this thing is going off all day,

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every day. Like I, I wish I could,

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like my phone is on do not disturb mode right now because I guarantee you it's

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blowing up. And so, uh, I've put this chat in mute because,

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uh, I could walk away from my phone for five or 10 minutes and I come back and

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there's 90 notifications. I'm not kidding you.

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And I'll go back and I'll start to see, man, what are these guys talking about?

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I bet you they're just sharing bible verses and praying for one another and

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being super encouraging.

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And actually I opened up the chat and they are going at each other's throats

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because someone somewhere has used the word good in a

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statement. Lemme tell you what I mean.

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A few days ago somebody commented and said, man, just saw this movie.

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It was really good.

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We have been arguing for the last three weeks about what makes a movie good

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. Somebody else I'll tell it's me will put in a statement like, man,

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y'all wanna drive to Chapel Hill and go to raising cans? That place is so good.

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And somebody will say, yeah, it's good,

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but it's not as good as this other place.

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We have one guy who was convinced that Carson Wince is a good quarterback.

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That was enough to erupt friend groups. Okay?

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We  we started little side conversations like,

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can you believe he said this? And yeah,

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I knew we couldn't trust him to begin with. Like it,

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it's crazy what this word good does and why is that?

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It's because good is probably the most relative term in the English language

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and we use it all the time, right? That taco was good.

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I hope we get good weather this weekend. I know my kids are good,

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she has a good sense of humor.

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We use it all the time and it can always mean different things in our

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vernacular. The word goods mean good means so many different things.

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The problem is we take our vernacular and we bring it to the Bible and now we

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start misinterpreting stuff in here.

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I think one of the issues that we have when we look at this,

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this passage is our misunderstanding of the word

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good. And that verse in particular, Romans 8 28,

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that God works all things together for good. Well,

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when we bring our presuppositions to that verse,

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we end up with some problems because a lot of us have lived life and a lot of us

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know it's not all good. Lemme tell you, as a matter of fact,

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while I was working on this, this, um, this, this passage,

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I was reading through it and studying on it and all this other stuff.

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I got a notification from Apple News and it was a headline, uh,

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about something called a hammerhead worm that's popped up in Texas.

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A foot long worm from hell is invading Texas, and it's really hard to kill.

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And I see that headline and I see that nightmare fuel of a picture.

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And I look at the text and I say all things , like God created that.

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Is that good? Is that possible that even that thing can be good?

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And and here's what I started to realize, and here's what this,

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what this picture and this headline taught me

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is that it's not saying that that thing is good.

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And I learned in that moment this truth that I hope you carry with you as you

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continue to study through the book of Romans.

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Proper interpretation requires a proper reading.

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If you read the passage wrong,

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you're gonna come to a conclusion about what it means in a wrong way.

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So the passage does not say that everything that happens in our life will be

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good.

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The passage does not say that God will only do things that are good in our

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lives. What does it say? It says,

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and we know that for those who love God,

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all things work together for good,

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for those who are called according to his purpose.

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We've been going through this series verse by verse,

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but I want to go through this verse word by word, okay?

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Because there's so much richness in this alone. The first thing is we know,

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well, how can we know? How can we know this?

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How do we know this? How can we be sure of this? Well,

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we're gonna talk about that in just a little bit, but what is it that we know?

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We know that for those who love God,

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and that part's really important because it doesn't say that

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all things work together for all people.

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It says that all things work together for those who love God.

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And so I just wanna tell you that if you're here,

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if you're at any of our campuses, if you're watching online, uh,

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I know that in a room this big,

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there's a chance that there's someone who does not have an active relationship

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with God, who would say, yeah, I don't love God.

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Lemme tell you what we're gonna talk about for the next few minutes.

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It's a promise that we get from scripture,

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but it's a promise for a particular group of people that there's something that

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happens when we are grafted into the family of God,

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of every circumstance that we've ever talked about or that we've ever been

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through,

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those who love God. It says that God such a simple,

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it's a three letter word, but it means everything.

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There's only one who is capable of fulfilling the promise that we're about to

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read. There's only one.

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It says that God will work all things together for

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good. And here's our problem portion,

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because we think all things really  even that hell

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worm that we looked at . Listen, that's,

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that's not what this verse is talking about.

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And I'm not saying that God can't use the hell worm to do whatever it is that he

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wants to do,

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but we're specifically talking about the lives of those who love him and those

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who are. The next word is called.

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And that word called it means personally invited by him

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according to his purpose.

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And what is his purpose for those who love him.

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It's good that word that we haven't defined yet,

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but keep reading because the next verse is going to,

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I believe that scripture interprets scripture.

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We let God speak for himself through his word. Because here's the problem,

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back in the beginning of time, right? God creates everything.

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He looks back on it, he says it's good,

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but then we reach Genesis three and it says that Eve saw the fruit that was on

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the tree and thought that it was good for food.

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So how does humanity get into the issue of good and evil to begin with?

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God defines something as good, and then Eve defines something else as good.

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Our misinterpretation of the idea of good is what leads us to sin.

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It's us thinking that we know in some way what's better than God.

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So let's let God define what good is for us. Romans 8 29 says,

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for those whom he for knew,

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he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his son in order that he

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might be the first born among many brothers. Now,

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before we get into the foreknowledge and the predestination and all that sort of

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stuff, all the stuff that leads to debates like we talked about earlier,

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God defines good in this verse. And if you're not careful, you may miss it.

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You might just skim right over it.

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Romans 8 28 is not saying that everything will be easy.

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It's not saying that everything will make sense to us.

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It's not saying that everything will be great and extravagant and lavish,

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but somehow the God of the universe can take every circumstance of your life,

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all of them, every single thing you've ever experienced.

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He can take all of those things and work them out for good sub in right here,

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you being conformed to the image of Jesus.

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That's what the good is that Romans 8 28 talks about. Now, I don't know,

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maybe we just can't fit that on grandma's pillow,

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but  God can take every aspect of your

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life and use it to conform you, to make you more into the image of Jesus,

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which is his number one concern for you. It's not about getting a bigger house,

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it's not about getting a promotion, it's not about getting more money.

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It's not about having red or well-behaved kids.

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It's not about any of those things. While it might be included,

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his ultimate purpose, the ultimate good for your life is that you

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fill in the blank here, use your name.

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God's goal is for Aaron to be conformed into the image of Jesus.

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And when I put my faith in him, all of the things,

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the good and the bad,

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he uses as a tool to shape me into the image of Jesus.

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And if you have a hard time believing in this, I just,

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I just want you to think about like the people who you know who follow Jesus.

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00:37:28.395 --> 00:37:31.465
Maybe even it's your own story. Can I tell you, I've, I, I,

473
00:37:31.745 --> 00:37:33.465
I think I've almost never, I'm,

474
00:37:33.725 --> 00:37:37.305
I'm pretty sure I think I've almost never met someone and said, Hey man,

475
00:37:37.445 --> 00:37:40.145
can you tell me your story about how you came to know Jesus? And they were like,

476
00:37:40.165 --> 00:37:42.425
man, life was going good. I didn't have a care in the world.

477
00:37:42.426 --> 00:37:43.905
All my bills were paid, everything was fine.

478
00:37:43.906 --> 00:37:46.145
And then I just woke up one day and said, yeah, Jesus is it.

479
00:37:47.565 --> 00:37:51.905
That's almost never how it goes. You know how it usually goes, man,

480
00:37:51.945 --> 00:37:53.505
I was in the darkest place in my entire life.

481
00:37:56.545 --> 00:37:59.485
She just broke up with me. I just got laid off.

482
00:38:00.605 --> 00:38:03.525
I got this cancer diagnosis and

483
00:38:05.415 --> 00:38:08.175
man just there, it was in the middle of all my brokenness. I,

484
00:38:08.215 --> 00:38:10.335
I had my face to the ground. And when I looked up,

485
00:38:10.735 --> 00:38:14.655
I saw Jesus standing there inviting me to himself,

486
00:38:15.055 --> 00:38:17.455
beckoning me to himself. I hit rock bottom.

487
00:38:17.875 --> 00:38:20.055
And that's actually what led me to the Lord.

488
00:38:20.375 --> 00:38:25.175
It could it be that in that moment God was working

489
00:38:25.395 --> 00:38:29.175
all things together, even the worst season of your life to call you to him.

490
00:38:29.335 --> 00:38:30.775
I mean, think about our faith.

491
00:38:31.864 --> 00:38:34.655
Every year we celebrate a day and call it Good Friday.

492
00:38:34.795 --> 00:38:36.525
You know what happened on that good day?

493
00:38:36.905 --> 00:38:40.285
An innocent man was brutally murdered for the entire world to see.

494
00:38:41.225 --> 00:38:42.325
But why do we celebrate it?

495
00:38:43.645 --> 00:38:48.565
Because somehow God took that and he used it for

496
00:38:48.585 --> 00:38:52.445
the purpose of conforming us into the image of that man,

497
00:38:52.475 --> 00:38:56.605
that sacrificial man who hung on a tree and had a perfect relationship with God.

498
00:38:59.705 --> 00:39:04.435
That is what our God does with everything that happens in our

499
00:39:04.436 --> 00:39:07.515
lives when we put our faith in him.

500
00:39:10.315 --> 00:39:15.015
And what a beautiful gift that is, right? I think that's actually the good news.

501
00:39:15.675 --> 00:39:18.735
The good news is not that only good things will happen.

502
00:39:19.235 --> 00:39:23.055
The good news is that in spite of the bad things, that's not the end.

503
00:39:26.355 --> 00:39:29.075
I love this verse. I think there's so much truth in this verse,

504
00:39:29.575 --> 00:39:32.435
but you know what I've learned specifically about Romans 8 28,

505
00:39:33.585 --> 00:39:36.075
I've learned that there are people who love it and there's people who hate it.

506
00:39:37.465 --> 00:39:40.965
The people who love it are usually pain adjacent

507
00:39:42.864 --> 00:39:46.945
, right? You see somebody else going through something, amen.

508
00:39:47.525 --> 00:39:51.505
All things work together. Jesus loves you don't give up yet.

509
00:39:52.445 --> 00:39:56.025
You know who hates that verse, the person that's going through it. I mean,

510
00:39:56.026 --> 00:39:59.344
just imagine right now that me and you were both up here standing on the stage

511
00:39:59.345 --> 00:40:02.545
and somebody ran up and punched one of us in the nose. Okay?

512
00:40:03.475 --> 00:40:06.305
Let's say I'm the one that gets punched. If you look at me and say,

513
00:40:06.364 --> 00:40:10.685
all things work together, you gonna be bleeding with me? Okay, ,

514
00:40:13.195 --> 00:40:14.605
because I've learned something,

515
00:40:14.635 --> 00:40:18.285
I've learned that pain distorts perspective,

516
00:40:20.114 --> 00:40:24.655
the person who's standing here with a bloody nose doesn't want to hear all

517
00:40:24.656 --> 00:40:26.295
things work together. But can I,

518
00:40:26.315 --> 00:40:31.175
can I just like for a moment remind you that the truth doesn't change despite

519
00:40:31.176 --> 00:40:32.009
what you're going through?

520
00:40:34.295 --> 00:40:39.065
Just because you don't want to hear Romans 8 28 doesn't mean that you don't

521
00:40:39.175 --> 00:40:44.094
need to hear Romans 8 28 just because you're looking through the lens of

522
00:40:44.095 --> 00:40:48.945
some sort of suffering or some sort of pain that doesn't negate this

523
00:40:49.175 --> 00:40:50.625
eternal truth from scripture.

524
00:40:51.485 --> 00:40:54.055
This is why it's so important to surround yourself with community,

525
00:40:54.056 --> 00:40:59.015
because in those moments when life hits you so hard that you don't have a way to

526
00:40:59.016 --> 00:41:02.055
think straight and you're just questioning, man, where is God in this?

527
00:41:02.275 --> 00:41:06.335
You need someone with a right perspective to be able to say, listen,

528
00:41:06.535 --> 00:41:07.735
I know you don't want to hear this,

529
00:41:08.925 --> 00:41:13.344
but could it possibly be a reality that God who knows,

530
00:41:13.525 --> 00:41:16.105
all sees all cares about all,

531
00:41:17.335 --> 00:41:21.114
can somehow take this thing that maybe he didn't even want to happen to you in

532
00:41:21.115 --> 00:41:21.948
the first place?

533
00:41:23.515 --> 00:41:28.385
Could he take that pain and still somehow use it to fashion you

534
00:41:28.655 --> 00:41:31.025
into the image of Jesus? And now, listen,

535
00:41:31.205 --> 00:41:33.025
I'm not saying this gives you a license,

536
00:41:33.045 --> 00:41:35.005
license to just start throwing Bible verses at people.

537
00:41:35.344 --> 00:41:37.725
I'm not saying that as soon as you see somebody hurt, you just say, oh,

538
00:41:37.825 --> 00:41:40.125
Romans 8 28. And they're like, I don't wanna hear it right now. You don't say,

539
00:41:40.245 --> 00:41:42.805
ah, well believe it anyway. Like that's not what I'm telling you to do.

540
00:41:43.665 --> 00:41:44.725
But what I am saying is,

541
00:41:44.785 --> 00:41:48.005
if you're the person who's going through that painful thing,

542
00:41:48.285 --> 00:41:51.645
I want you to know this verse isn't about suffering.

543
00:41:53.364 --> 00:41:56.455
It's not see in our humanity,

544
00:41:56.594 --> 00:42:01.055
we think the all things we think that means, like just the bad stuff. But no,

545
00:42:01.056 --> 00:42:04.775
it's the bad stuff. It's the good stuff, it's the great days, it's the bad days.

546
00:42:04.915 --> 00:42:09.415
And that's a whole other series that we don't have time to get into. You get it?

547
00:42:09.685 --> 00:42:11.975
This verse isn't just about suffering,

548
00:42:12.125 --> 00:42:17.094
it's about the faithfulness of the God that we serve. Last week,

549
00:42:18.215 --> 00:42:21.735
Dwayne talked to us about the importance of having eternal perspective, right?

550
00:42:22.235 --> 00:42:25.175
And, uh, uh, if you weren't here last week,

551
00:42:25.176 --> 00:42:27.935
there's a passage of scripture I wanna read to you that I think, um,

552
00:42:28.005 --> 00:42:32.335
will help you wrap your mind around this idea about what eternal perspective is.

553
00:42:32.405 --> 00:42:36.335
Okay? Second Corinthians four 16 through 18. It says this, it says,

554
00:42:36.336 --> 00:42:39.614
so we do not lose heart, though our outer self is wasting away.

555
00:42:40.155 --> 00:42:43.935
Our inner self is being renewed day by day for this light,

556
00:42:44.125 --> 00:42:48.975
momentary affliction is preparing us for an eternal weight of glory beyond all

557
00:42:48.976 --> 00:42:52.015
comparison as we look, not to the things that are seen,

558
00:42:52.795 --> 00:42:57.344
but to the things that are unseen for the things that are seen are transient,

559
00:42:57.725 --> 00:43:00.864
but the things that are unseen are eternal. Now, Aaron,

560
00:43:01.565 --> 00:43:03.465
why do you go bringing in more confusing verses?

561
00:43:03.485 --> 00:43:05.905
Are you really telling me that the stuff I can see,

562
00:43:06.715 --> 00:43:10.585
don't look at it , but the stuff I can't see,

563
00:43:11.045 --> 00:43:12.905
I'm supposed to fix my eyes on that.

564
00:43:14.955 --> 00:43:19.455
Can I just paraphrase that quickly for you that what this verse is calling us to

565
00:43:19.456 --> 00:43:22.575
is to fix our eyes on God? Because, uh,

566
00:43:22.576 --> 00:43:26.575
eternal perspective is not knowing what's waiting for you around every corner.

567
00:43:26.955 --> 00:43:27.788
That's not it.

568
00:43:28.725 --> 00:43:33.455
Eternal perspective is fixing our eyes on the one who actually does know

569
00:43:33.555 --> 00:43:37.175
all and who has actually seen all and who marks the end from the beginning.

570
00:43:38.125 --> 00:43:39.265
That's eternal perspective.

571
00:43:40.645 --> 00:43:43.375
It's not being prepared for everything that comes your way.

572
00:43:43.725 --> 00:43:45.935
It's trusting God regardless.

573
00:43:47.475 --> 00:43:51.125
There's a story that I heard a while ago that I, I I know this is,

574
00:43:51.126 --> 00:43:55.285
this is like heady stuff, I get it. But I think this kind of helped me,

575
00:43:55.425 --> 00:43:55.825
you know,

576
00:43:55.825 --> 00:43:59.245
put myself in perspective a little bit more here and try to help me understand

577
00:43:59.246 --> 00:44:01.005
what this verse is about. There's a story, uh,

578
00:44:01.006 --> 00:44:05.525
about a village farmer and his son. And, uh, they were pretty poor.

579
00:44:05.526 --> 00:44:07.285
They worked on a farm, but they had a horse.

580
00:44:08.065 --> 00:44:11.525
And one day that horse runs away and his neighbors hear about the horse that ran

581
00:44:11.526 --> 00:44:14.085
away. And they come to him and they say, Hey man, that's unfortunate that your,

582
00:44:14.114 --> 00:44:16.805
your horse ran away. And this village farmer looks at them and says,

583
00:44:17.135 --> 00:44:20.915
maybe it is and maybe it's not. I'm like, what do you mean, dude, you,

584
00:44:20.935 --> 00:44:25.395
you have your horse and your son and the horse is gone. Well, the next day,

585
00:44:25.955 --> 00:44:30.635
uh, that horse that ran away brought a whole crop of wild horses back with it,

586
00:44:30.775 --> 00:44:33.725
and they go, man, you're so lucky. Like, yeah, you lost that horse,

587
00:44:33.726 --> 00:44:35.245
but then a group of wild horses came back.

588
00:44:35.246 --> 00:44:37.445
Now you have more horses than you had before. And he goes, yeah, maybe,

589
00:44:38.185 --> 00:44:42.855
or maybe not. Like, what's wrong with this dude? ? Well,

590
00:44:42.856 --> 00:44:45.575
the next day his son was trying to break one of these horses,

591
00:44:45.755 --> 00:44:47.135
and while doing so,

592
00:44:47.136 --> 00:44:51.855
the horse bucks him off and comes down on top of him and breaks his leg and they

593
00:44:51.856 --> 00:44:54.535
go, man, what's up with this guy? Man,

594
00:44:54.735 --> 00:44:57.895
you  feel like you're going up and down and up and down. It's like, man,

595
00:44:57.955 --> 00:45:01.255
how bad that one of these wild horses broke your son's leg? And he goes,

596
00:45:01.335 --> 00:45:03.335
I don't know, maybe yes, maybe no.

597
00:45:05.125 --> 00:45:07.105
The next day there were rumors, uh,

598
00:45:07.106 --> 00:45:10.465
about a neighboring village that was going to attack his village.

599
00:45:11.364 --> 00:45:14.025
And so they went around and started drafting people for the military.

600
00:45:14.026 --> 00:45:16.265
And when they came to get the man's son, they go, oh wait,

601
00:45:16.285 --> 00:45:20.225
we can't take him because his leg is broken. They go, man,

602
00:45:20.226 --> 00:45:22.545
you're so lucky that your son's leg was broken. And the man just goes,

603
00:45:22.546 --> 00:45:25.985
you probably know it by now, maybe yes, maybe no.

604
00:45:27.575 --> 00:45:31.555
Listen, this parable is said and it's given kind of this way to say, man,

605
00:45:31.556 --> 00:45:34.155
listen, you never really know how your luck is gonna work out,

606
00:45:34.885 --> 00:45:37.864
so just don't trip yet. Don't, don't freak out about it. But, but listen,

607
00:45:37.985 --> 00:45:41.145
I I don't think it's a perfect example because we think, like in my brain,

608
00:45:41.165 --> 00:45:42.905
I'm like, well, what if the story keeps going? Like, yeah,

609
00:45:42.906 --> 00:45:43.745
something's gonna be bad,

610
00:45:43.945 --> 00:45:45.585
but then it's gonna end up good and then something's gonna be bad,

611
00:45:45.586 --> 00:45:49.385
and then it's gonna end up good again. But the reality is, is man,

612
00:45:49.525 --> 00:45:52.265
the difference between that story and what we're reading about in this passage

613
00:45:52.405 --> 00:45:56.505
is there's not always a guarantee that something good is gonna happen next.

614
00:45:58.965 --> 00:45:59.798
People die.

615
00:46:02.445 --> 00:46:04.505
People get sick and don't get better.

616
00:46:06.245 --> 00:46:09.265
You lose your dream job, you, you get in the car accident.

617
00:46:12.045 --> 00:46:15.825
But the beauty about this eternal perspective is that even if I have bad day

618
00:46:15.826 --> 00:46:17.945
after bad day after bad day after bad day,

619
00:46:17.946 --> 00:46:21.185
there is an eternity that God's already secured for me.

620
00:46:23.525 --> 00:46:26.655
Even if I die on my worst day,

621
00:46:27.715 --> 00:46:30.055
it is a gateway to what's next for me.

622
00:46:30.075 --> 00:46:34.295
And the beauty of this is that we have a God who has been working on this since

623
00:46:34.296 --> 00:46:38.395
the beginning of time. I wanna look at our,

624
00:46:38.735 --> 00:46:40.594
the last two verses of this passage here.

625
00:46:40.595 --> 00:46:44.555
This is verse 29 and 30 talking about God.

626
00:46:44.655 --> 00:46:47.555
It says that for those whom God for knew,

627
00:46:48.255 --> 00:46:53.155
he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his son in order that

628
00:46:53.415 --> 00:46:56.555
he might be the first born among many brothers.

629
00:46:56.556 --> 00:46:58.195
That's just another way of saying, listen,

630
00:46:58.205 --> 00:47:00.915
Jesus is going to be the first one like Jesus,

631
00:47:02.614 --> 00:47:05.915
but God is working to make sure he's not the only one .

632
00:47:06.585 --> 00:47:10.075
That there are gonna be people who come after him who resemble him and live like

633
00:47:10.076 --> 00:47:13.995
him and love like Him. Jesus will be the firstborn among many brothers,

634
00:47:15.255 --> 00:47:18.835
and those whom he predestined, he also called. And those whom he called,

635
00:47:18.836 --> 00:47:22.955
he also justified. And those whom he justified, he also glorified. And Aaron,

636
00:47:23.015 --> 00:47:26.275
you got three minutes. How are you gonna unpack all that? I'm not ,

637
00:47:28.815 --> 00:47:31.285
but I do wanna give you this tool that I hope is helpful for you,

638
00:47:31.286 --> 00:47:34.885
that as you start to, um, work through this on your own, uh,

639
00:47:34.886 --> 00:47:35.885
hopefully this is wet,

640
00:47:35.886 --> 00:47:39.645
your appetite to dive back into the scriptures a little bit more. Uh, here are,

641
00:47:40.045 --> 00:47:40.486
uh, what the,

642
00:47:40.486 --> 00:47:45.485
what these verses give us is five attributes of God that remind us that

643
00:47:45.486 --> 00:47:49.675
he's trustworthy and that everything is gonna be okay.

644
00:47:50.545 --> 00:47:52.355
Here they are. We're gonna throw 'em up on the screen for you.

645
00:47:54.114 --> 00:47:57.905
These attributes of God he has for knowledge,

646
00:47:58.965 --> 00:48:03.305
he predestined, he's called, he justified,

647
00:48:03.844 --> 00:48:06.465
and he glorified to break these down for you.

648
00:48:06.605 --> 00:48:10.465
The idea that God has foreknowledge, it just means that he knows all,

649
00:48:12.445 --> 00:48:16.385
all, there's nothing that ever catches him off guard.

650
00:48:18.165 --> 00:48:22.105
He predestined. It means he, he has orchestrated all things.

651
00:48:22.175 --> 00:48:26.785
This is that working together that we're talking about called He has invited us

652
00:48:27.215 --> 00:48:29.905
into his family. He's justified us,

653
00:48:29.906 --> 00:48:34.025
which means he forgives all of our sin and then he glorifies us,

654
00:48:34.555 --> 00:48:38.225
which means that he's going to perfect everyone who loves him.

655
00:48:39.165 --> 00:48:44.065
And I love this list because this passage brings us through a timeline

656
00:48:44.445 --> 00:48:47.025
of that for, I'm trying to point here that foreknowledge,

657
00:48:47.385 --> 00:48:49.745
 that happened before the beginning of time,

658
00:48:51.005 --> 00:48:54.945
before the beginning of the universe and that glorification part down there that

659
00:48:54.946 --> 00:48:56.864
happens way past what you could ever imagine.

660
00:48:56.864 --> 00:48:58.825
That's the day when we're in the new heaven, the new Earth.

661
00:48:58.875 --> 00:49:01.825
We're spending time with Jesus and he's making all things right.

662
00:49:03.775 --> 00:49:05.705
He's got it all covered.

663
00:49:06.535 --> 00:49:09.105
He's been thinking about it before you got here and he finished.

664
00:49:09.385 --> 00:49:12.344
Whatever's gonna happen after you get here or after you leave here,

665
00:49:12.465 --> 00:49:15.425
I want to read, um, revelation 21

666
00:49:17.185 --> 00:49:22.065
verses one through six because these verses show

667
00:49:22.165 --> 00:49:25.745
us what all things are working towards.

668
00:49:27.575 --> 00:49:31.265
This is John talking, and then he says,

669
00:49:31.775 --> 00:49:35.945
then I saw a new heaven and a new earth for the first heaven,

670
00:49:36.045 --> 00:49:38.864
and the first earth had passed away and the sea was no more.

671
00:49:39.125 --> 00:49:40.905
And I saw the holy city,

672
00:49:41.685 --> 00:49:46.665
new Jerusalem coming down out of heaven from God prepared as

673
00:49:46.705 --> 00:49:48.185
a bride adorned for her husband.

674
00:49:48.565 --> 00:49:50.985
And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying,

675
00:49:51.285 --> 00:49:54.425
behold the dwelling place of God is with man.

676
00:49:55.085 --> 00:49:59.344
He will dwell with them and they will be his people and God himself will be with

677
00:49:59.345 --> 00:50:01.425
them as their God. Check this out.

678
00:50:01.605 --> 00:50:04.785
He will wipe away every tear from their us,

679
00:50:06.325 --> 00:50:08.545
and death shall be no more.

680
00:50:08.546 --> 00:50:13.265
Neither shall there be mourning nor crying nor pain anymore for the former

681
00:50:13.285 --> 00:50:14.945
things have passed away.

682
00:50:16.965 --> 00:50:19.825
And he who is seated on the throne said, behold,

683
00:50:20.185 --> 00:50:24.465
I am making all things new. Also, he said,

684
00:50:25.155 --> 00:50:29.525
write this down for these words are trustworthy and true. He's saying,

685
00:50:29.526 --> 00:50:33.525
you can take this to the bank. He said to me, it is done.

686
00:50:34.265 --> 00:50:37.285
I'm the alpha, the beginning and the omega,

687
00:50:37.665 --> 00:50:39.485
the end to the thirsty,

688
00:50:39.645 --> 00:50:43.125
I will give from the spring of the water of life without payment.

689
00:50:44.625 --> 00:50:47.005
That's the glorification that we have to look forward to.

690
00:50:48.285 --> 00:50:50.045
And you might be thinking, yeah, Aaron, that sounds great,

691
00:50:50.065 --> 00:50:52.565
but right now it still hurts.

692
00:50:54.205 --> 00:50:56.085
I still feel the pain.

693
00:50:56.285 --> 00:51:01.165
I I I love that I get to hope for one day, but, but right now, like I,

694
00:51:02.165 --> 00:51:06.605
I don't know how to find the comfort that I need from God.

695
00:51:08.255 --> 00:51:09.685
We're talking about this idea of good.

696
00:51:11.225 --> 00:51:12.925
And when all of our definitions fall short,

697
00:51:12.926 --> 00:51:15.885
the only thing that we can really fall back on is that God is good.

698
00:51:15.886 --> 00:51:17.605
And if you're wondering if you're here today,

699
00:51:17.785 --> 00:51:18.885
you don't have a relationship with God,

700
00:51:18.886 --> 00:51:20.565
or maybe you do have a relationship with God,

701
00:51:20.566 --> 00:51:25.485
but I never thought about this before. This is how good God is.

702
00:51:25.594 --> 00:51:30.205
Okay? Romans 8 26 through 27,

703
00:51:31.605 --> 00:51:32.438
It says, likewise,

704
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the Spirit helps us in our weakness for we do not know what to pray for as

705
00:51:38.206 --> 00:51:39.039
we ought,

706
00:51:39.385 --> 00:51:44.005
but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groanings that are too deep for

707
00:51:44.006 --> 00:51:44.265
words.

708
00:51:44.265 --> 00:51:48.045
And he who searches hearts knows what is the mind of the spirit because the

709
00:51:48.046 --> 00:51:50.925
spirit intercedes for the saints according to the will of God.

710
00:51:50.955 --> 00:51:51.788
What does that mean?

711
00:51:52.585 --> 00:51:57.045
It means that God has placed his spirit inside of you

712
00:51:57.985 --> 00:52:00.805
so that when you don't understand everything that's going on in there,

713
00:52:00.955 --> 00:52:04.125
when your mind confuses you, when your heart confuses you,

714
00:52:04.235 --> 00:52:07.685
when you wanna turn and walk away from God when there's so much pain that you

715
00:52:07.686 --> 00:52:09.005
don't know how to articulate it,

716
00:52:09.665 --> 00:52:14.125
God inside of you communicates to our God in heaven and says, Hey,

717
00:52:14.126 --> 00:52:17.645
let me fill the gap. Let me pray for them.

718
00:52:18.825 --> 00:52:22.245
Let me offer that right perspective, that eternal perspective. Aaron,

719
00:52:22.305 --> 00:52:26.205
how does that work? I don't know, , I don't get it.

720
00:52:28.705 --> 00:52:33.045
But maybe that's the point. We don't get it.

721
00:52:34.145 --> 00:52:34.978
We don't know.

722
00:52:36.265 --> 00:52:39.165
We may never get it or know on this side of eternity,

723
00:52:39.166 --> 00:52:44.125
but we can trust the one who does the one who truly has

724
00:52:44.715 --> 00:52:45.925
eternal perspective. Listen,

725
00:52:45.926 --> 00:52:47.965
every now and then we do these messages where it's like, well,

726
00:52:47.966 --> 00:52:49.565
what do I do next? Man? Just

727
00:52:52.065 --> 00:52:53.765
Ask God to help you, trust him.

728
00:52:56.305 --> 00:52:58.125
That's really what it boils down to. But

729
00:52:59.625 --> 00:53:04.565
if I had to give you four practices that help us trust

730
00:53:04.566 --> 00:53:07.125
the one with eternal perspective, here's what I would tell you to do.

731
00:53:07.126 --> 00:53:07.605
First of all,

732
00:53:07.605 --> 00:53:12.565
I mentioned earlier that there are some people who you have not professed

733
00:53:12.965 --> 00:53:14.205
a love for God.

734
00:53:15.225 --> 00:53:18.645
You've not professed a wanting to have a relationship with God.

735
00:53:18.665 --> 00:53:22.405
And can I tell you, man, these promises that pain doesn't go to waste.

736
00:53:24.035 --> 00:53:28.325
It's not the reason we opt in. We don't just say, Hey,

737
00:53:28.505 --> 00:53:33.005
I'm gonna follow God because then everything will make sense and we follow God

738
00:53:33.006 --> 00:53:37.765
because man, he's the realest thing that the world has ever known,

739
00:53:39.905 --> 00:53:42.405
and he's the one we were designed to be in relationship with.

740
00:53:42.425 --> 00:53:45.125
But on top of the goodness of who he is,

741
00:53:45.385 --> 00:53:49.245
he also offers us the promise that he will make all of the wrong, right?

742
00:53:51.185 --> 00:53:53.165
So I wanna invite you, man, find somebody around you,

743
00:53:53.166 --> 00:53:56.765
find somebody in our next steps area and talk to them and ask them, man,

744
00:53:57.125 --> 00:53:59.605
what does it mean to have a relationship with Jesus?

745
00:53:59.606 --> 00:54:03.325
Because I think that's what I want. That's the first thing.

746
00:54:04.625 --> 00:54:07.805
The second thing, and this is something that I think all of us can practice,

747
00:54:08.925 --> 00:54:11.805
is to put something somewhere around you. Maybe it's a mirror at home.

748
00:54:11.806 --> 00:54:13.125
Maybe it's in your car.

749
00:54:13.126 --> 00:54:16.005
Maybe it's a note in your phone right now that has this sentence.

750
00:54:16.006 --> 00:54:20.805
It just says blank it not the end because of what God

751
00:54:20.864 --> 00:54:25.165
did in the beginning. Whatever it is I'm going through right now,

752
00:54:25.435 --> 00:54:29.844
this is not the end because of what God did in the beginning.

753
00:54:29.845 --> 00:54:31.405
What did he do in the beginning? He for knew,

754
00:54:32.305 --> 00:54:35.685
he predestined and he called and he justified.

755
00:54:35.905 --> 00:54:40.364
And one day we're all gonna be glorified, and that is when we celebrate.

756
00:54:42.625 --> 00:54:45.885
The third thing I want you to do is to draw a map of God's faithfulness.

757
00:54:45.895 --> 00:54:47.765
Maybe you're in a season of life right now where you're like, man,

758
00:54:47.766 --> 00:54:50.245
everything's chilling for me if I'm honest, like I'm, I'm really,

759
00:54:50.385 --> 00:54:52.965
I'm in a good spot with God. I I trust him. I,

760
00:54:53.025 --> 00:54:55.725
my devotional times have been incredible. Like everything's just going well,

761
00:54:55.726 --> 00:54:56.559
listen, right now,

762
00:54:56.655 --> 00:55:00.965
while you have that clarity of thought before the pain distorts the perspective,

763
00:55:01.285 --> 00:55:04.685
I want you to think back to the darkest season of life you've ever been in.

764
00:55:04.925 --> 00:55:09.445
And I want you to think about how that thing has drawn you closer to Jesus and

765
00:55:09.446 --> 00:55:13.405
write that down. Because one day you're gonna need that clarity of thought.

766
00:55:13.406 --> 00:55:15.925
You're gonna need that perspective to remind me, Hey, yeah,

767
00:55:16.185 --> 00:55:18.965
God did it with that, and maybe he can do it with this too.

768
00:55:21.385 --> 00:55:23.364
And then finally, if you're here and you say, man, I look,

769
00:55:23.405 --> 00:55:27.125
I don't know if I have any of those stories. At least I can't recall any.

770
00:55:28.445 --> 00:55:33.325
I wanna encourage you to listen to the stories of others, to ask them, man,

771
00:55:33.326 --> 00:55:35.364
how has God been faithful in your life? 'cause I'm,

772
00:55:36.185 --> 00:55:37.805
I'm having a hard time finding it right now,

773
00:55:38.305 --> 00:55:40.965
and so I just need to be encouraged by something. And so, uh,

774
00:55:41.035 --> 00:55:43.925
find someone sitting around you, find someone in a small group, uh,

775
00:55:43.926 --> 00:55:46.525
maybe there's a friend of yours who lives in another state who you know,

776
00:55:46.526 --> 00:55:48.485
follows the Lord, call them and say, Hey,

777
00:55:48.545 --> 00:55:53.045
can you just refresh me with a story of how good God is?

778
00:55:55.055 --> 00:55:56.165
Maybe you need that right now.

779
00:55:57.844 --> 00:56:02.485
I think those are practices that are helpful for all of us. Uh,

780
00:56:02.486 --> 00:56:05.045
before we get outta here, let me go ahead and, and pray for us.

781
00:56:08.875 --> 00:56:09.708
Dear Lord,

782
00:56:13.525 --> 00:56:17.844
I am encouraged by the reality that right now I don't have to pray a perfect

783
00:56:17.845 --> 00:56:18.678
prayer.

784
00:56:20.625 --> 00:56:24.405
I'm encouraged by the fact that I don't have to pray in a way that meets

785
00:56:24.645 --> 00:56:27.685
everyone right where they are in every situation they've ever been in.

786
00:56:29.475 --> 00:56:34.285
Because your word just reminded us that your Holy Spirit

787
00:56:34.295 --> 00:56:37.844
fills in the gaps. God, you know,

788
00:56:38.355 --> 00:56:41.565
each person in this room intimately and deeply,

789
00:56:44.165 --> 00:56:45.045
deeply and so Holy Spirit,

790
00:56:45.245 --> 00:56:48.685
I just ask you to pray on behalf of all of my friends here today,

791
00:56:50.185 --> 00:56:54.085
we thank you that you do that. Father, we love you.

792
00:56:55.575 --> 00:56:58.085
Thank you for making all things work together.

793
00:56:59.495 --> 00:57:03.525
Thank you for loving us. In your son's name we pray, amen.

794
00:57:26.965 --> 00:57:27.798
<v 0>I've carried a

795
00:58:00.365 --> 00:58:03.645
see you now. I'm laying it down

796
00:58:10.525 --> 00:58:11.358
to

797
00:58:15.725 --> 00:58:16.558
done

798
00:58:20.685 --> 00:58:24.365
my heart, a soul, a.

799
00:59:23.605 --> 00:59:24.438
<v 1>A

800
00:59:30.065 --> 00:59:34.535
the reason my heart,

801
00:59:35.215 --> 00:59:39.055
a soul. So

802
01:00:21.495 --> 01:00:24.615
is running light. Come on from,

803
01:00:26.815 --> 01:00:27.648
and

804
01:00:36.255 --> 01:00:40.175
now come on, just as I'm you.

805
01:00:58.345 --> 01:01:02.025
My heart needs a soul. Needs a

806
01:01:19.625 --> 01:01:20.458
heart.

807
01:01:58.655 --> 01:02:01.375
<v 5>Come on y'all. Let's give God some praise. Yeah.

808
01:02:05.915 --> 01:02:07.055
And uh, just for a moment,

809
01:02:07.235 --> 01:02:12.135
can you let Aaron Nelson hear that was a phenomenal message? Like, yeah,

810
01:02:12.355 --> 01:02:13.188
praise God.

811
01:02:17.545 --> 01:02:19.885
I'm so thankful for the work, uh,

812
01:02:20.205 --> 01:02:22.405
in wrestling with the text that has been put in, um,

813
01:02:22.585 --> 01:02:26.245
to really help us all to grow in our relationship with Jesus.

814
01:02:26.565 --> 01:02:28.605
And as listening to that sermon, uh,

815
01:02:28.606 --> 01:02:33.525
what I know is that as you hear a message like that and it begins to tug at

816
01:02:33.526 --> 01:02:38.245
your heartstrings, right, um, we have an opportunity to respond.

817
01:02:38.425 --> 01:02:41.045
And one of the ways that we can respond, we just did,

818
01:02:41.245 --> 01:02:42.125
we responded through worship,

819
01:02:42.705 --> 01:02:45.845
but there's also an opportunity for us to take steps of faith.

820
01:02:46.305 --> 01:02:48.645
And so in the beginning of service, we talked about, uh,

821
01:02:48.965 --> 01:02:51.405
stepping into the next steps area at one of our physical campuses,

822
01:02:51.406 --> 01:02:52.365
or if you're watching online,

823
01:02:52.595 --> 01:02:56.885
letting us know how we can serve you as a church to help you to take those next

824
01:02:56.886 --> 01:02:57.719
steps of faith.

825
01:02:58.345 --> 01:03:01.485
But whatever it is that God may be pulling at your heartstrings to do,

826
01:03:01.565 --> 01:03:03.525
I don't want you to wait another moment to do that.

827
01:03:04.965 --> 01:03:08.605
I want to encourage you to move forward by faith and we will serve you any way

828
01:03:08.606 --> 01:03:11.005
that we possibly can. As you take those steps of faith.

829
01:03:11.515 --> 01:03:15.725
Just know that we are a church that loves you and wants to walk alongside you on

830
01:03:15.726 --> 01:03:19.885
your journey to follow Jesus. Now, uh, at Hope Community Church,

831
01:03:19.905 --> 01:03:22.125
we do like to share every week, uh,

832
01:03:22.155 --> 01:03:24.885
ways that you can get involved and next steps is a great way for you to get

833
01:03:25.005 --> 01:03:27.805
involved. We also like to share ways that you can give here at hope.

834
01:03:27.806 --> 01:03:31.445
And there's a couple ways up on the screen there should God so be pulling your

835
01:03:31.446 --> 01:03:32.006
heart to give.

836
01:03:32.006 --> 01:03:36.205
Just know that everything you do makes a difference in how we are able to make a

837
01:03:36.206 --> 01:03:39.645
difference in our communities, in and around the triangle. Guys,

838
01:03:39.705 --> 01:03:40.845
we absolutely love you.

839
01:03:41.155 --> 01:03:45.005
This has been a phenomenal time of worship and we're hoping for many, many,

840
01:03:45.235 --> 01:03:48.805
many more. So we hope to see you back here next week. God bless you guys.

841
01:03:49.175 --> 01:03:49.965
We'll see you soon.