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Welcome to the Energetic Radio podcast. This episode is brought to you

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by the school of play dotco, hosted by Dale Sibonham and

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Paul Campbell. Each week, we'll bring to you tips, strategies, and ideas

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on how you can bring more joy and happiness into your life, and those you

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share with. Ladies and gentlemen, and welcome back to the

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energetic radio. We've got a special one today because this

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is episode 300 and 50. Woo

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hoo. This is hosted by the School Play, and I'm joined

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by the incredible energetic man, Dal Sibodom. Good day, mate. How are you?

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Thanks, Paul. Appreciate that, buddy. That's good. Congratulations first and foremost on reaching

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350. Thank you very much. I won't lie, you've done the bulk of the work.

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I've, I've moseyoned in here at old episode 333, so I'm

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up to I'm up to episode 17.

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Are you still gonna celebrate my whole show? Here I am Are you still gonna

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celebrate I am celebrating 350 like it's my own amazing event. It's a

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it's an awesome milestone to get to. And I'll be honest, man. I'm I'm 17

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podcasting and, I I'm blown away at the fact that

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you've made it to 333 by yourself. It's like it's bloody

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it's not easy. Right? It's not it's it's it's not easy. I must admit back

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in the day, it was a lot harder. Now there's tools that help

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you, obviously, edit it and, create the show notes and

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things like that. Previously, like, before I'd sort of we've got a team

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now that help us do it. Before that, it was a lot of work. I

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can imagine. And, like, as I've spoken about multiple times, finding the way to

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write an intro about something like I've battled. Yeah. So that was the

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hardest part. The easy part was recording, which I really enjoyed, but then there was

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so many layers of it that I didn't enjoy. But yeah, I think just

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doing the actual podcast and being proud of it was enough to make me keep

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doing it. So Yeah. It's awesome. I, it does It's mind blowing the

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the programs you use and the AI we use now, and we simply throw the

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recording into it. And then it spits out, obviously, a transcript that spits out the

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little nuggets of joy the nuggets of gold. Yeah. And the

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videos that link to it. And it's just incredible in it. And Cricket does it

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all. It's amazing. So, yeah, for people out there, you put, like, once we've

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done this, I put it into a program, and it

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does the show notes in 2 minutes, comes up with titles for us, then

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it gives you anything you want. Then you put the video into another

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platform and it spits out 20 little promo clips you can play on social

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media. Yeah. Yeah. The only thing really I have to do now is

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editing. Yeah. But think of the content and then talk shit. Yeah. That's right.

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And that we can do very well. And that we can do very well. Yeah.

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That's why I'm probably enjoying it more than ever because the things that

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really, yeah, took away from the joy of doing the podcast had sort of

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gone now. And that follow on from last week's episode, you know, that's

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there are the power of AI that can be a superpower, and I'm sure

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there's programs out there. If you're doing something you don't enjoy, I bet there's a

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way you can eliminate that, reduce that time. You just have to look and

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explore. Go and play. Go and play with it. Yep. Go and play.

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350. Episode 350. I love my stats, you know that. We we

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cannot have episode 350. With a couple of stats thrown

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in, obviously, you and I love our cricket. We love our footy. We are here

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in Australia. And so I just dug up a couple of stats around

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350. Yeah. Cricket starts tomorrow. So let's start. That is cricket

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season here. There's only a handful of people that have made over 350

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runs in an innings. Yep. Do you know who they are? Brian Lara is 1.

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Matthew Hayden. Oh, he's on. An older

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yep. So they're the 2 ladies. An an older one to jog your memory.

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Not for Australia. He's a West Indian. The Garfield Soaps. Yes.

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All done. And Brian Lara is the only man who's done it twice. And Brian

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Lara of 401. He actually made, 500 Plain

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County Cricket for Warwickshire. There you go. Yeah. Mate, that was excellent

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cricket knowledge. I just I knew you wouldn't let me down with that one. I'm

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like, oh, I'm bringing some cricket stats beside you today. Such a nuffie. Is that

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something? Cricket nerd. Love it. But, yeah, mate, hats off to Matty Hayden, 380

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at the beginnings. And, obviously, footy, there are numerous players who have played more than

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350 games, but there are 2 players who have ended up on 350 games.

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Dougie Hawkins? Dougie Hawkins is the one, mate, you are on today. This is insane.

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I don't know the other one. I did just I did know that one. I'm

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gonna give you a clue. Baggy shorts. Eddie Betts? Yes. Well

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done. Gameplay is freaking awesome. I can't believe you got that off my phone.

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Oh. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah. Eddie Betts, Dougie Hawkins, and who doesn't love those 2

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smiling assassins, running around their footy field. That's right. Yeah. They're the 2 that mare.

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So but, mate, yeah, congratulations on 350 and, let's get

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stuck into it. I wanna throw out last week, we did a

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couple of questions that I noticed. I wanna I wanna start off with just one

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question that I noticed because, we've been using this a little bit in our

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workshop. What's your favorite memory of

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the podcast so far? So 350 episodes. What's your favorite one? What's your

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favorite memory? There's a guy called, Beau

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Miles. Don't know if people know him, but he's like this, like, really famous

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adventurer. So he does, like, crazy things. Like, he lives out,

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sort of Warrigal way. And he's, like, works as a uni lecturer. And, like, he's

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only cook, canoeed or kayak to work. So he carries it

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and then gets in drains and, or he, like, ate baked

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beans only for a month. Or he does anyway, check

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out his YouTube channel. What's what's what's his name again? Beau Miles. Okay. He's

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he's written books. He's global speaker. Yeah. Anyway, a guy used to,

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Bruce here, a guy used to work at. He's best mates of him. So he

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goes, sorry. I could probably get his guy, but I didn't know who he was.

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Anyway, so I went out to his farm in Jindarik or somewhere like that,

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and we did a podcast in his, like, work shed, in his shed,

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in the middle of winter. I was freezing. But it was just, it

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was, like, a really memorable experience. That's awesome. Yeah. And I think they're the

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ones face to face. So, yeah, obviously, I have to put in a lot more

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effort and work and planning to get it up and running, but, yeah,

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it's, that one just sticks in my memory. It was a really cool experience. Yeah.

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That's epic. I love it. You? Well, I've only got 17 to choose

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from. I don't have to wrap the memory too much. We've

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obviously I I love just you and I having a chat. I love those ones.

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But in terms of a favorite guest, oh, man, I'm gonna throw up

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Michael Ackerman. A, I know he's one of my closest mates and we and but

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we are podcast fiends and we chat podcasts all the time. And I think just

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to have, a mate on there who I've divulged so

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many podcasts or shared so many podcasts with and had him in the studio. And

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it was an epic chat. Yes, sir. It was on a really cool journey. And

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I just love the, my favorite memory would be the, the Eric, what do

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we call it? Eric Weinen Weinenhammer, the, the the crazy

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man that had grit and and will power. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And, that nickname stuck

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a little with Ace now. So it's become a bit of a favorite memory. Eric,

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the old Eric. But yeah, that's probably one of my faves. But on top of

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that also, I loved, on a personal, I think Conan, just for a bit of

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inspiration about just a normal Aussie bloke who, did something crazy and could

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change transform his life around. And little Eliza West was also on the line.

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Yeah. I love that one. She was a fun chat. So, couple to choose from

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there, but I'm I'm still a newbie, 17 in,

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asked me again in in another, what, 80, 83 times when I'm

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gonna reach a 100, hopefully. There we go. Yeah. That'd be nice, wouldn't it? That'd

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be nice. Well done. Good memories, though. Great memories. I

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was as you know, and everyone out there, I love to walk my dog every

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morning. You do. I do. And, something came across my ears this

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morning that that I thought was really bloody cool that I wanted to chat about

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today. And you got no idea what it is. To be honest, Sadie's got no

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idea about any of these conversations that take place though, which is awesome. So it's

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actually really nice. And to answer your question, I just rock up now,

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and I do no planning, and I just get to have a chat. Yeah. So

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that's probably why I really enjoy it because previously, there's, like, a lot of work

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went into my end of doing that now. Yeah. So, yeah, I rock in just

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freeze a bird reader rock and don't get to talk. So I enjoy it. I'm

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so jealous. I knew on that. We because we obviously work together. Right? And we

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share a desk sitting next to each other and we're in the pot in the

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bunker. We should just bloody throw the mics on during the day. Because we we

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talk so much crap during the day. Yeah. To about to about 11 or 12

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and then This is on the podcast. 3 hours we don't talk. We're just tapping

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lights. Yeah. That'd be a fair editing job from you to feel through how to

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all the, the non appropriate conversations take place.

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But and I've heard this before, but there was a study from the Harvard University

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and they started this study in 1938, and they

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followed the lives you're nodding now, sorry. You know what I'm talking about. I know

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the one. Yep. They followed the lives of 727

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teenagers from 1938. What I love is,

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obviously, professors who have looked after the study have come and gone, passed on, and

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then a new one's gone. The pod I was listening to this morning, the

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professor's been in charge of that study for 22 years now, and

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there's only 10 left. So out of 727

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teenagers who started the study and they would every year catch up with

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these human beings, interview them, recall their

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thoughts, their, their well-being, their happiness, their family, their

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jobs, their hobbies, their interests, everything was

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measured. Everything was, was taken into account. And there was only

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10 of them left and they're all over a 100. All right. I know it's

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insane. And listen to this guy speak to speak about it. Just the sheer joy

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you had from it's been the coolest gig in the world. He didn't wanna do

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it. Right? He didn't wanna do it. He he actually approached Harvard Uni with a

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different pitch. They said no to his pitch, and they said, but how about we're

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looking for a new person to take over this study? Just come in and check

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it out. And he goes, I went in and I had a rate of 1

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person's like study notes. Yeah. And it was about a

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1000 pages long. Wow. This bloke was in his sixties

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by then the person who's reading it, he goes, just reading his life from a

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teenager and just how well it was documented. He goes, oh, I

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was infatuated, and then bloody loved it.

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But the reason why I wanna talk about it is he then he started talking

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about the keys to it, right? The key, these 10 that delivered to a 100

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or the the the, you know, the people lived over 80 or 90,

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and who found the most fulfillment or happiness. And it was so bloody

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simple. Obviously looking after your body was 1. Yeah. That's a no brainer. Looking

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after your body is 1. Move, eat well, simple things like

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that. The second one which I found, which was the key,

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was being connected to a community. And I'm like, holy

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shit. That's not rocket science, is it? No. It's not. Just be connected to a

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community. Doesn't matter how big or small as long as you're connected to some sort

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of community. Face to face, not with a device. It's gotta and that's the thing.

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It's gotta be face to face. That's the problem. Yeah. That's what people don't have

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now. Yeah. Sorry to cut you off. That's alright. No. Go for it. That's what

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people don't have now. They think they're connected, but they're not. Yeah. Because it's through

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a device. You're missing that human connection, that interaction.

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It's that's, detrimental. Couldn't agree more. Yeah. The the

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digital the digital world is is ruining that. The second most important

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factor It's not ruining it. It's just making people really they think they're already

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getting what they need, but they're not. Good point. Like, I I don't think

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they're socially aware Yeah. Of how much they actually need that. And I don't reckon

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they're realizing that until it's far too late. A 100%. Especially teenagers, adults as well.

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Right? By then, the depression is massively kicked in. The isolation's massively kicked in. Well,

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then you got that anxiety of social situations. That's true. So then you what

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you do need to change, you actually physically can't for a lot of people. Yeah.

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And I think COVID's amplified that, but people don't help themselves. It's not

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always easy to stay connected with people or be part of something, but

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that's why it's so valuable when you do. Yeah. Yeah. You know what? I just

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had I just had a light bulb moment too then. You're right. Like,

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yeah. It's it's double edged sword with the the technology world is they think they're

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connected, but we're not. Well, we're so socially connected, but so no.

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So digitally connected, but they're so socially not connected. And then the anxiety

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kicks in about I need to show up in front up in person. And I

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can't do it. Conversation. They can't do it. It freaks me out, so I don't

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wanna do it. Well, we even spoke about, you know, kids these days, particularly, you

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know, when you're taking your kids to, like, soccer or something like

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that. And just the anxiety kids have about leaving and and

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starting, getting into it. Yeah. Leaving leaving their parents to run on the field

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and joining training with kids their own age. Yeah. Yeah. It's

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fucking mind blowing. So starting really young, but that's where I feel you don't

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have to play sport, but I feel I don't I'm personally and I know you

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are too, but sports played a huge part in my life Yeah. And there's been

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a reason for that because the connections that it's allowed me to

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make and the friendships, the people in your life of all

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different ages, all different walks of life, everybody's accepted,

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and everyone's got a place. That's the power of sport, I

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feel. Yeah. I'd I'd I haven't seen really anywhere else

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that does it as well as a sports club. Yes. I know some get the

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bad rep on, like, binge drinking and, you know, bad culture or

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whatever. But on a whole, when you start talking about the things we just

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mentioned, you know, about social anxiety and isolation and

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having no connections, that a sports environment does

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that better than any way. Yeah. I agree. And even though you you move into

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the adult world, not many adults are really

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strongly connected to external community groups anymore. Yes. You'll go along into your

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kid's sport or whatever it might be. You know, I mean, you're pretty lucky if

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you've got a group mates that play golf regularly, for example, whatever it is or

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catch up regularly and regularly that's not, let's go meet at the pub and get

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smashed 4 times a year with a group mates. It's that more regular

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occurrence. And this bloke was also saying that the he sort of said, he goes,

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what I've learned from these studies, and over the last 22

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years is the importance of me and my mates, and this guy's now in his

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eighties, right? The me and my mates catching up for dinner

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once a fortnight. Wow. And I started that because of after reading these

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studies for 7 years and figuring it out, I was like, that's one of the

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keys to our longevity and our happiness. And so I instigated that with

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my group mates because we weren't doing that. And then once a fortnight, him and

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his him and his friends catch up for dinner, and he goes, that's completely transformed

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so many of our mental health, but just their happiness and our connection.

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this morning, and said, let's catch up, you know, pre Christmas and, yeah,

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not get smashed or something like key. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. It was

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real. I don't know. Real, real interesting. Few more things that came out than I

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wanna talk about. The third most important thing, was

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a sense of purpose in making an impact on your community.

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So a being connected to community, but the third most important thing was that these

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individuals who live longer and happier had a sense of like purpose

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or focus on how they can have a positive impact on their

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community and they never lost sight of it. They kept working towards it. And I

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thought that was really cool too. So not, you're not your business card. You're not,

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you're not your business card. We've said that a few times. But having that

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purpose outside of your career on how you can have a positive impact on your

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community, also spurred on longevity and

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spurred on happiness and fulfillment and those sorts of things, but you got to stick

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at it. He said a lot of people started off in their twenties

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thirties having some sort of purpose with their community, but it dropped

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off and then they withered away. The ones that kept it through their forties

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fifties sixties were the ones with the happiest in their retirement and live the longest.

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Why is it, man? So simple, isn't it? To think of it that

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way. Well, that's where I feel, you know, you see so many, like,

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retirement complexes going up and things like that. I think it's a no

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brainer that that's the best idea ever. Yeah. Because then

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you've got things to do. There are there's activities planned. You've got

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a community of people. You're all there together. Like, there's your purpose.

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Yeah. And it's organized for you. And it's organized for you. I just I just

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think it's a brilliant concept. Fun and it's engaging. What do they do? They play

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every day. They're doing excursions. Bingo. They're doing excursions. They're playing lawn

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bowls. You know? They've got everything you need, and there's something

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every night. And that means you you don't have to do it all, but wow.

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Like, when you're retired, what else are you doing? Mate, I got no crumbs going

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to retirement No crumbs at all. A lot of people wanna stay at home. That

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might change when I get to that age, but right now I'm like, sign me

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up. Sign me up for movies and lawn bowls and and and bingo and

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whatnot. And my old man, shout out Jim Bob. My old man's

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74, and as you know, he's, he's reinventing himself as a

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DJ. And he now it's amazing. Bloody love it.

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And he now goes out to retirement villages and other things like that, and DJs

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on the Saturday nights, Friday nights, and he goes, they go nuts. They literally put

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the music on, they say crank it up, they dance like no tomorrow, and

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he's literally getting paid to do DJ gigs at all these different time villages at

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the age of 74. It's awesome. That is the best.

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Oh, mate. Over in New Zealand, I bloody love it. Well done, Jimmy. It's bloody

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brilliant. The last thing I wanted to bring up from this Harvard study is

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it got me thinking about, I think how wrong

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we've got at school. So the last most important thing was you've

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gotta love your job and your career. Like, you gotta love it. And the sheer

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amount of people in this study who reported hating their

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jobs over a prolonged period of time, they all died

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young. Wow. They all died young. They withered away.

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The comment was they withered away and died young. Their their emotions

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withered away. Their feelings, their connection, everything else because they stuck in a

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job. The thing is the people that jumped and found their

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true career they love doing and a job they actually didn't mind going to are

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the ones that end up living longer and living happier. So that got me

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thinking about careers Is that why you're not with the new one here? That's it.

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Exactly right. No. I've said it a few times. I don't feel like I've gotta

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work in the last 6 months. It's unreal. Every Monday I get Monday, I just

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my previous gig and that is what it's, I don't feel like I've been gonna

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work it for 6 months, which is awesome. So hopefully it continues and I

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don't wither away. At schools, we have

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career practitioners, career counselors. It's massive. Like the school is that we had

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about 6 of them. And every single student goes through the careers

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thing, right, from year 9, 10, 11, 12, and it's all your career.

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Career, career, career. Why are we not

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swapping them out between 7 career practitioners? We have life

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coaches Yep. At schools. In the life coaches, you can still talk about

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careers, but also get them focusing on what is your purpose

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gonna be, what you're gonna have to be specific for a career. No. You aren't

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your business card. No. And and change that so students,

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and young people are entering the adult world with a bit more of a focus

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or a mindset on right. What's important here for my longevity and happiness

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is not just my bloody career. It's how I can have a positive

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impact on those around me, my community, the world, and no matter how small

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it is, but have some sort of goal around that. We're sending these young people

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out with just goals towards career. Yep. Yeah. And that just

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made that was my light bulb moment walking the dog this morning. I love it.

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I love it. And that's the thing. There's so many different sort of coaches these

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days that help people outside of school because people need it because

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I don't think they're getting that at school. No. So once they leave school, they're

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a bit lost, like, yeah, you might have to do these courses to go to

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university and get that job, but what happens if you've done 4 years of study

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and you don't like your job? Yeah. Do you stick at it? I don't know

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any different. I was always told from you 9 that that's gonna be my

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career. Yep. Well, that's not life now. And the world we live in, the possibility

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is endless. So, oh, I I love that idea. Like,

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that don't just pigeonhole career, you know, talk about future.

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Yeah. Yeah. And with that, like, you have to tick off all different elements of

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your future. Ways to stay healthy, ways to stay connected, ways to

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feel good about what you do. Yeah. You know, what are your interest?

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Not just select a career, but these are things you could do.

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You don't have to do these 4 subjects in year 12. So you can go

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to uni and then you can do that career. Yeah. You know, explore different

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things. I just I I think it's a great idea, mate. It's a great idea,

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isn't it? And then that just taught me too. And you can still get the

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benefits out of the careers councils, but change their, yeah, change their focus too

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to to broaden it a little bit. Don't label it careers. I'll feel

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you know, we're big on don't label things. Yep. Like the moment you label

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it straight away, people get anxious about that. People are

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you're not supposed to know what you wanna do. Nah. Not everyone sticks at one

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job. The world we're living from when our parents' generation that you're

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just stuck at your job because that's what you did changes. Look look at the

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world we're living now. People might have 10, 20 jobs throughout their life,

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and that's fine. Yeah. What I'm up to? 1, 2, 3, 4. I'm up to

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about number 4 now. Career number 4. Yep. I think they say nowadays,

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people might do it 9 or 7 different careers in a lifetime, which I think

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is pretty high, but I'm up to career number 4, I guess. I started

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out young. When I was 10, I started my lawn mowing business, and I was

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at McDonald's. I thought I probably done my fair few. I'm still 7 years old.

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Don't worry. If I include me freaking me pizza hut, me Target, me

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lifesaving, then it's up to number 7 or 8. But I'm thinking career is post

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high school, actual career wise, it's it's career number 4,

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in different industries. But, yeah. I don't know. It was bloody interesting. But

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it's sort of popped up there, but the scores, if you're listening Let's say, Bring

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in life coaches. Yeah. I've and don't even call you don't have to call them

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life coaches, but, yeah, just don't label things like and

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that's I know we're massive on this, and it makes sense. Like,

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just make it make it something that particularly students wanna go

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to because it'll help them figure out through those areas that they

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may feel a little bit lost. Because those areas when they feel lost and it's

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labeled career, then they start judging and comparing themselves

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to others. Oh, they know what they would do. They're doing this course. They're gonna

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be a doctor or they're gonna da da da down this. I think by labeling

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it careers, you're actually building that stress and anxiety into it. Yeah. If you

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don't know what you wanna do because you know, you have to sit down and

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go through this course with them. Yeah. I just yeah. I'd make it

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make it broader, make it just about how can you be the best possible version

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of yourself Yeah. And enjoy each day when you get up. And isn't it mental

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that the one of the key things longevity happiness in that study was

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to have a focus or a bit of purpose or an idea how you

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can have a positive impact in your community. I would

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struggle to say what do you reckon, 5% of the pop world's

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population probably has a mindset of that, of wake up in the morning

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going, right, how can I actually have a positive impact On others? On others. Not

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about me, me, me, me, me, me, my career mightily do this, do that.

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What, the implications technology was there any mention

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of that? There was. Right right at the very end, they spoke about how and

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simple things like we've gone from, you know,

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having face to face conversations to now now texting. And now that their

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preferred method is now email Really? Or

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texting. Yeah. And if you think about it, we we email like no tomorrow for

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work. And as a mates group, I would email my mates far I'm sorry. I

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would text my mates far more than I call them. Yeah. And everyone's the same.

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Or your message through Insta, whatever it might be in those same things. So that

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was number 1. They said that's the key detriment to technology

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is that there's no more verbal or very little verbal

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communication taking place and we need that connection. And then the other one

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was the way even things are documented now, but it used to be all documented

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in written files. You know, you you talk to a person, you take notes,

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you talk those sort of things and now you click on a file on a

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computer, you share it via an email that that interpersonal

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connections gone. Yeah. And what you echoed

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before people feel, they feel as though they've got enough

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connection. Yeah. But realistically, they're not getting the type of connection they need. They don't

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they don't know it till it's too late. Yeah. And also that some probably a

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bit naive too. It's so much easier to get your phone out. Yeah. You know,

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that's nothing I've found in life that's good is

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easy. Like, and that's pretty simple. Like, most things

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take work, dedication. Like, it's sometimes it's hard,

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but that pays off. Yeah. And it's exactly the same with people and

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connections and being part of something. You're not just gonna get it if you don't

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put the effort in. No one's going to, you know, no one's just gonna keep

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going, oh, oh, Dale, come on, mate. We know you don't put any effort, but

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we just wanna keep bringing you along because I know it's good for you. Bullshit.

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That doesn't happen. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, that that would be my thing. Like, we

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know what we need to do, but sometimes it's hard. But that's why it's worth

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it. Yep. I love it. Another question that I noticed,

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you cannot talk about I'm gonna put some parameters on here.

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Can't talk about family. Okay. Can't talk about kids. Okay. I know it's horrible, but

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I don't I I want I want you to recall something that's outside of that

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role for me because it's 2 mates having a chatty. Okay. And I was watching

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something the other day and it said, ah, she makes this question. I don't wanna

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ask it. What is one memory

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that you never wanna let go of?

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Probably doing my TED talk. Okay. It was I've I've

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probably sprayed 350 episodes. I probably mentioned. I've seen all these before,

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but, it was something that took a, like, a while. Like,

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it was hard to get. They're not easy to get one. And then I

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practiced for 3 months straight. I think I recorded myself, like,

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video over a 100 times, because I only got 15

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minutes, and I was so nervous on the day. I remember I was, number 3

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up, Rick Ricky Ponting, on the day, and I I got up and did it.

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And the feeling afterwards, like, because you're supposed to

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go 15 minutes, and I went I think I went 14 minutes and 54 seconds.

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Yeah. So I was like, bang on. And it was just like, bang. It was

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like, I'm really proud of that. Yeah. That's awesome. Even though I watch it back

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now and I'm like, oh, there's things I don't like about it, I still

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did it. Do you know that I've never watched it? Haven't you? No. Yeah. Don't

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worry about it, mate. Many people that we work with are going, oh, I watch

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your TED Talk. And I'm sitting there going, should I work with a bloke? And

420
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I'm not part of the business. I actually haven't sat down and watched your TED

421
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Talk. But I've seen you do half the shit numerous times now, obviously, in in

422
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real life and in person. But, yeah, I've never gone back and watched your TED

423
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Talk. Trees, I'll watch it. We might be most on the big TV. I've only

424
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watched it twice. Oh, both of them. I watched it,

425
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the day it come out. Yeah. And I watched it, a few months

426
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ago when, was putting together those talks with Paul Watkins because I watched

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his and mine to sort of help put the and I was still proud of

428
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it, but, yeah, obviously, that was about 4 or 5 years ago now.

429
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So the way I spoke and things I'd say, I was like,

430
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oh, I could've got way better. Yeah. I'll always be our worst critics. Yeah. But

431
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overall, I'm still proud of it. What's yours, mate? Oh, I knew you're

432
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gonna Of course. I'm almost dead of me. I'll be honest with you. My

433
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my mind, it's bloody inappropriate, but we're not talking to kids here. So it's

434
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alright. It's quite funny. I'll be honest with you. My one that I never let

435
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go of, I'm not gonna mention any names, but we were, we were

436
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living overseas in a in a in in Colorado. And,

437
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never forget one day wake up and, and I opened up my window

438
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and it was absolutely like a dump. I'm talking a meter and a half of

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snow. I looked at my window and it was epic. I was like, holy crap.

440
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And I got up and I ran down the hallway and I, opened up my

441
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best mate's door to his room and, opened the door and I was confronted with

442
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the scene that I never wanna forget because it's one of the funniest things in

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my life. And, and I still piss myself when I think about it today.

444
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And I opened the door and he's me, mate, spread

445
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eagle, butt naked, headphones in

446
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with absolute punk music blaring, like so loud you could hear it

447
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from the door through his earphones. Right? And, and his eyes were

448
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closed. So he didn't hear me open the door. Didn't my door didn't see. My

449
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eyes are closed. Music on, pumping away, spread eagle,

450
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pleasuring himself. Alright? And I'm like

451
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and I'm obviously my my jaw dropped him like that is something you don't see.

452
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Right? And I didn't and he didn't know I was in the room because his

453
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eyes are closed. The music's crazy. Did you sit there and watch? No. No. No.

454
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Well, I turned I turned and then ran down the hallway, to go and get

455
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the other boys that we're living with because it's fucking funny. And, obviously, I didn't

456
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shut the door behind me and I'm halfway down the hallway and he's obviously

457
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opened his eyes and turned and seen that his door was now wide open. I

458
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just hear this, oh, no.

459
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And obviously knew that he'd been caught. And, yeah, I'll we'll

460
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never forget it. It's it's bloody funny. And I know it's

461
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completely I'm expecting that. I don't know if I would ask a

462
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question. I know. I don't know. And I knew when I was coming up with

463
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this one today, I was gonna ask you you're gonna ask me. I'm like, you

464
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know what? I gotta be true to the true to the pod and true to

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people. Like, that's one memory that I know it probably shouldn't be

466
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itching, but god it was bloody funny. One memory that I don't wanna

467
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forget about is, at the same bloke, so I was the best man at his

468
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wedding and, I actually told that story at at his wedding. It's the

469
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best and it didn't go down too well with him or his missus. You're correct.

470
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And it's something that I regret. I really do. So that's definitely one of me

471
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where I wanna forget because I maybe shouldn't have shared that story at a wedding,

472
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thing. But Probably not. But in terms of memory between he and I and

473
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the rest of the boys in that trip to the survivors, absolute bloody pisser. And

474
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when I think about it, it takes you back to, you know, being 21,

475
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traveling the world, snowboarding with your mates, powder days and those sorts of

476
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things and everything else that comes with that. And, that's one thing that I never

477
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wanna forget, but bit random

478
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And you're talking to me, I'm like, damn, you know, the mics are on. I

479
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know, I know. And I was like, no bugger it, I'm saying it. Good on

480
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you. I'm saying it. You can say whatever you want. And I think that's why

481
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I put the parameter on it at the beginning, no family, because it's easier for

482
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you to go, you know, and I would. If you get if you want me

483
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to go that that pathway, you know, my wedding day, my wedding speeches, my my

484
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my child hunter walking for the first time, you know, those sorts of things.

485
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You know, there's lots in there. Lots that I never wanna forget. But in terms

486
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of just for my I guess for myself a bit more and for you,

487
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that's the one really cool memory to recall. Yeah. And it's something

488
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I wanna do, like, out for dinner next time I have dinner with some mates.

489
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I wanna ask them that. No family, no mate, no no family, no kids talk

490
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because we we talk we do that all the time. Yeah. And it's beautiful. But

491
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we're all the kids now and that's where the conversation goes to. But I think

492
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it's healthy for us sometimes. You go, you know what, lads? Give us your favorite

493
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memory that you never wanna let go of and it can't be your family or

494
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kids. I know I can have a conversation on the table would be pretty bloody

495
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funny. Oh, and it'd be deeper too. Yeah. What do you tell? Get more out

496
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of just setting the service level. Yeah. Yeah. How's your kids? How's your kids? How's

497
00:29:24,215 --> 00:29:26,375
your work? Yeah. Good. Good. What are you up to? Anything what are you doing

498
00:29:26,375 --> 00:29:30,215
for the holidays? Same shit all the time. Right? Correct. Yeah. I heard

499
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that the other day. It was like to draw it. That'd be even better. Oh,

500
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can you imagine me drawing my one?

501
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But, yeah, get us the old gratitude no. Yeah. What do we call that

502
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,800
memory Pictionary? Yeah. Yeah. Memory lane Pictionary. Yeah. Somewhere like that. Just

503
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create a new activity for our workshops. That's all we do. Oh, watch out. Watch

504
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out. Don't steal it, listeners. That's it. That's it. It

505
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is summer days in here. Christmas is 9,

506
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episode 350. Yep. Thanks for having us

507
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along. Congratulations on making it. We've hoped you've enjoyed

508
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the week that was. And, yeah, look forward to and enjoy the little

509
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run to Christmas, everyone. I bloody love it. I don't know if Sadie loves Christmas

510
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as much as I do, but Oh, I I enjoy Christmas. I just don't like

511
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Christmas carols, and I'm sick of them already. Yeah. I don't pop in the house

512
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at all. We're not listening in here. It's like, Bree goes, do

513
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you like the Grinch? I'm like, no. I just don't like Christmas carols. I do

514
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my head in. Anyway Favorite favorite Christmas movie?

515
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I like Elf. Ah, yeah. Good. Wolf, Will Ferrell.

516
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Yes. Yours? Like it. The Grinch, but the cartoon

517
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one. Oh, yeah. That's good. We watched the other day. Yeah. I watched the Could

518
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you call Home Alone a Chris' room? If it is, it'd have to be up

519
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there for mine in my 5 because it's a classic. Oh, best. I really love

520
00:30:44,049 --> 00:30:47,569
it. Yeah. Awesome. Alright, everyone. Enjoy your week. Thanks for tuning in.

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Episode 350. Take care.