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I'm Adam Maness.

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And I'm Peter Martin.

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And you're listening to the "You'll Hear It" podcast.

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Music, explored.

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Explored with "Purple Fringe," Peter.

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... bass and drums.

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Most of my contribution to that course, to be honest, is just, "This is how you

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play with other people. Follow me."

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Yeah. And Peter-

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"Jump on my back."

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And then Peter rips it. Go to openstudiojazz.com for all your-

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It's not true

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... jazz lesson needs. Peter.

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Yes.

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This has been a long time coming.

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It has been. You said Purple Fringe?

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Yes.

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And I thought you were saying Purple Friend.

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Purple-

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I was like, "Oh, I'm your Purple Friend for the day," because we're doing Purple

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Rain.

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Like Barney the Dinosaur?

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Barney the Dinosaur.

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What are you talking about?

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Love that dude.

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All right, that dude's good.

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Love that dude.

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Good dude.

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That's a good dude, man.

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Shout out Selena Gomez.

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You know who else was a good dude?

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Who?

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A great talent.

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Mm.

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Generational talent, perhaps.

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Oh, not even perhaps.

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Prince Rogers Nelson.

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100%.

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Right? I mean, this is-

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Maybe the greatest dude.

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Maybe. Whoa.

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Perhaps.

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Look at that flag, just got planted in the carpet.

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An amazing talent, a controversial,

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controversy, controversial, gentleman.

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That's a great album.

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Maybe not anymore, but at the time, kind of controversial. I mean, somewhat.

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No, for sure.

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But not even, well, we're gonna talk about some of the kind of pop culture stuff,

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but also, I was thinking about

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this. I was like, "What made Prince so unique?"

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Well, that's exactly the word I use for him.

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Yeah.

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For a pop star especially.

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Yes.

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At the time especially. I think-

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At a time of unique other... I'm like, if everybody's unique, who's unique, right?

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Purple Rain-

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... really is the album that made him a huge, huge global sensation.

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A huge star. Blockbuster movie.

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Biggest album of the year.

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His biggest album ever up to that point-

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... and I think maybe ever, right?

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And the biggest album of 1984. This really put Prince over the top in

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the global superstar-

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But he's a really interesting, unique global superstar.

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Because he's so specific and so, I mean, he's

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so interesting, has a really unique point of view that's different from

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any other pop star. I mean, this is not Whitney Houston, right?

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This is not Huey Lewis. This is like a guy-

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This is a guy who's got some religious things happening in all of

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his music. A little bit of sex happening in his music.

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Just a hair-

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... just a touch.

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Really?

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But, I mean-

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Freaky?

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... the androgyny, the-

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... the outfits, the dance, the band.

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This is the first album made with the Revolution.

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to me, this is like an incredible pairing of Prince, who had made

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basically an album

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per year-

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... up until this point, since 1978.

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Somewhat by himself.

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Mostly by himself.

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But on this album, the Revolution, full band on six tracks-

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... out of the nine tracks.

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Which is pretty stunning for a Prince album.

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And that was a big deal for Prince. I mean, obviously this record was so big, it

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was such a big pop hit, biggest album of really almost

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two years. I mean, almost for a continuous year from '84 to '85.

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I remember that because I was a freshman in a little thing called high school.

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Did you ever attend that? I barely did.

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For a little while.

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so a lot of people, this was their first

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introduction to Prince for sure.

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For sure.

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And not just the scared parents that heard their kids listening to this freaking

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out.

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But it definitely was a lot of scared parents at first.

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There's a lot of, yeah. But even for a lot of young people, it

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was his biggest record, so you're gonna collect more people coming in, and then a

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lot of people, of course, went back.

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But I think, for Prince, having done so much writing,

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playing every instrument, producing, programming, all those

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records that he did everything, to come in with a band, I mean, they had

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been playing around with it for a while before this, but

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to present that, that was a big thing for him, too.

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change in direction.

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For sure.

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You know?

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For sure. Let's get into it, Peter.

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The first track, iconic opening track.

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You think?

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Oh my gosh.

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And we mentioned sort of the religion that seeps into a lot of Prince's music.

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But it starts literally in church.

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Dearly beloved.

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It's a sermon.

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Oh, that warbly-

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... synth organ.

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We have gathered here today to get you into this thing called life.

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Sus.

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A Latin word like plan B so often times.

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Lot of sus on this record.

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Lot of sus.

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But I mean it better.

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Sus chords.

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There's something else.

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Lot of weird keys, too.

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The after life.

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G flat.

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A world of never-ending happiness.

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Lot of B major on this record.

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You never even see the sun.

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or night.

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Sus.

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So when you call up that shrink in Beverly Hills, you know the one, "Doctor,

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everything will be all right." But instead of that doctor-

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Oh, when those drums come in, man.

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That's Prince to a T.

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Woo

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... get in touch with your mind, baby.

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'Cause it isn't like-

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This is such an '80s groove, it's such a Prince take on it, right?

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This is one of the tracks with the Revolution, one of the six.

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You're on your own.

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Where the full band is playing.

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And if the elevator tries to bring you down,

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go crazy.

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Uh.

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Dance around. Woo.

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If it's so rough,

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the world you live in.

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Take a look around. At least you got friends.

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Now, come on, friends.

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Man, just-

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Yeah. It's like little, like Roto, not Roto-

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Like Roto... I know what you're talking about.

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It's not that, but-

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It's not timbale? Or whatever.

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I'm gonna let the elevator bring us down.

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Oh, no, let's go.

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And I mean,

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there's so many little Prince-isms that turn this...

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This groove could be very corny and dated.

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And some might say it is in a way, and this is certainly Prince's most pop stuff

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so far.

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Yeah. That's good.

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The walking bass line there.

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It's exciting.

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But there's so many Prince-isms.

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The baby's come. We're all gonna

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die. What do we

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do? What is it all for?

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Yeah. Great riff-based song.

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Oh, man, his riffs. The little counter melody's great.

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Tell me. I'm gonna let the elevator bring us

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down. Oh, no, let's go. Let's go crazy.

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Let's go crazy.

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Good for, for, for the man I am. That put us in the tub.

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Let's go.

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Come on, baby.

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Let's get nasty.

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Yeah.

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Guitar, of course.

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What is that?

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It's almost like you start an engine. Click.

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Yeah.

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You know.

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When was the last time you watched this movie, too?

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Has it been a minute?

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It's been a minute.

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I actually, I-

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I watched it a lot during one period of my life.

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I rented it for this episode.

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It is-

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I decided not to

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... it is an interesting watch in 2026. It's great to see.

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The concert footage is amazing.

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Do you have a list of things that haven't aged well from it?

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That's a rewatchables-

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Yeah

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... category. But,

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man,

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I will say,

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watching the movie and knowing this album-

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Yeah. I always forget this is a soundtrack, technically, right?

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I mean, it's technically a soundtrack.

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Yeah.

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The process of how they made this, basically, they had a

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warehouse where they were working on script reads-

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... and also working on the album and rehearsing the band for the live sets.

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It was kind of all happening in the same complex in

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Minneapolis, and they were kind of making the movie and the album at the same time,

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and Prince was creatively involved in all of it, as you could

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imagine.

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Yeah.

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Very, very hard. But man, watching the movie in the

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build-up to this, first of all,

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there's some incredible

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dialogue.

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Mm.

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My favorite

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scene in the whole movie is one of the waitresses at the

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club early on in the movie

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says to Prince, "Hey, come here, I got something for you." And Prince just goes,

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"What is it? A subpoena?" Out of nowhere. No context.

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There's no ...

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It doesn't make-

275
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You got the voice down a little bit.

276
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"What is it? A subpoena?" It's so good.

277
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Heather and I have been saying that around the house a lot.

278
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So there's great moments, but then there's also the classic, the

279
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cleanse yourself in the, or bathe yourself in the cleansing waters of Lake

280
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Minnetonka.

281
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Lake Minnetonka.

282
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And then she's like-

283
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That's not Lake Minnetonka.

284
00:09:05,778 --> 00:09:06,377
That's not Lake Minnetonka.

285
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What is this, a subpoena? That's not Lake Minnetonka.

286
00:09:07,898 --> 00:09:11,868
It's so good, man. But what is really cool, and it's

287
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a loose story, honestly, but what is really cool is these songs

288
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actually mean something in the movie.

289
00:09:17,188 --> 00:09:17,198
Yeah.

290
00:09:17,328 --> 00:09:18,708
These songs do follow.

291
00:09:19,848 --> 00:09:22,928
Apparently, Prince wrote, like, 100 songs for this project.

292
00:09:23,028 --> 00:09:23,808
Man, he was prolific.

293
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And him and the director picked these nine

294
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to help tell the story of the movie. And they do a great job.

295
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Yeah.

296
00:09:32,848 --> 00:09:36,808
What they picked was amazing. And when you watch the film, the songs actually

297
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mean something more to me. Even something like "When Doves Cry," which I've heard a

298
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billion times, watching it in the movie, I was just like, "This is kind of

299
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unbelievable. This is amazing."

300
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Yeah.

301
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So no surprise that the movie was such a big hit and this album was such a big hit.

302
00:09:48,888 --> 00:09:51,848
I think people mostly just remember now the album, because the movie,

303
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it hasn't aged as well as the music has, for sure.

304
00:09:55,418 --> 00:09:55,418
Right.

305
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But it's still worth the afternoon to go watch the

306
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film and listen to this movie.

307
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I'm going to go back because I was a little bit...

308
00:10:01,648 --> 00:10:03,468
Well, so we have a little bit of research on this.

309
00:10:03,488 --> 00:10:05,148
By the time, the Triple Threat tour

310
00:10:06,168 --> 00:10:09,368
around February '83, Prince started carrying around a purple notebook.

311
00:10:09,628 --> 00:10:10,188
Imagine that.

312
00:10:10,228 --> 00:10:10,328
Yeah.

313
00:10:10,348 --> 00:10:11,288
I wonder why he chose that.

314
00:10:11,368 --> 00:10:11,468
Yeah.

315
00:10:11,808 --> 00:10:15,468
A bespoke purple notebook. He'd write down ideas for a

316
00:10:15,528 --> 00:10:18,108
film that was beginning to form in his mind.

317
00:10:18,388 --> 00:10:20,568
He was determined to get into the movies.

318
00:10:20,628 --> 00:10:23,668
He told his managers that if they wanted to keep him, they needed to get him a

319
00:10:23,728 --> 00:10:27,578
movie deal. It was a moonshot. He didn't even have his first number

320
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one hit. A film featuring a semi-popular non-actor was unlikely to

321
00:10:31,568 --> 00:10:35,128
get approved, but the head of Warner Brothers music division supported the

322
00:10:35,188 --> 00:10:38,948
project. That's interesting, because a few years later, Warner Brothers and

323
00:10:39,008 --> 00:10:40,588
Prince would really go at it legally.

324
00:10:40,828 --> 00:10:42,088
Yeah. In a big way.

325
00:10:42,148 --> 00:10:45,608
Yeah. And Warner Brothers put up $4 million of the label's money to get the project

326
00:10:45,688 --> 00:10:48,588
started. Okay, so that was Warner Brothers music division.

327
00:10:49,588 --> 00:10:51,987
Man, what a different time when the studios were-

328
00:10:52,028 --> 00:10:52,908
Totally different time

329
00:10:53,028 --> 00:10:56,668
... were connected, like that music, television, film.

330
00:10:57,828 --> 00:11:01,668
"Purple Rain," the film made 10X the amount it cost to make. Won a Grammy.

331
00:11:01,948 --> 00:11:02,158
Which is great.

332
00:11:02,168 --> 00:11:03,558
Two singles on the album hit number one.

333
00:11:03,568 --> 00:11:04,248
Academy Award.

334
00:11:04,468 --> 00:11:04,688
Yeah.

335
00:11:05,888 --> 00:11:07,228
For Best Original Song Score.

336
00:11:07,448 --> 00:11:10,748
And it's currently still tied for fifth place for the longest run at the top of the

337
00:11:10,788 --> 00:11:12,348
Billboard 200. Okay. That's good.

338
00:11:12,388 --> 00:11:15,968
That's valid, because that's how I remembered my whole freshman year, even before.

339
00:11:16,028 --> 00:11:18,628
I think it came out in the s- What'd it come out in the summer or in the...

340
00:11:18,668 --> 00:11:19,068
Yeah, summer.

341
00:11:20,408 --> 00:11:23,968
But I think even in eighth grade, maybe one of the singles had come out already.

342
00:11:23,988 --> 00:11:25,288
But all the way through, like nine.

343
00:11:25,308 --> 00:11:29,048
And this just dominated for week, after week, after week.

344
00:11:29,088 --> 00:11:29,318
Yeah.

345
00:11:29,388 --> 00:11:33,348
And I think it was four or five singles that were one,

346
00:11:33,468 --> 00:11:36,468
two, three, four, five, yeah, that were spread out.

347
00:11:36,518 --> 00:11:38,368
And it was just, we talk about this with

348
00:11:39,748 --> 00:11:42,728
Thriller, with even up to Bad, just different stuff.

349
00:11:43,088 --> 00:11:47,048
Madonna then in the '80s, where these albums would enter into the

350
00:11:47,708 --> 00:11:51,268
really worldwide, but we didn't know anything. There wasn't a worldwide web.

351
00:11:51,288 --> 00:11:51,908
But the US-

352
00:11:52,208 --> 00:11:52,288
Yeah

353
00:11:52,468 --> 00:11:56,428
... cultural zeitgeists that just reached everywhere, including some parents

354
00:11:56,468 --> 00:11:58,668
that didn't know nothing about Prince.

355
00:11:58,948 --> 00:11:59,268
Yeah.

356
00:11:59,328 --> 00:12:03,064
You remember a mother ... named Tipper

357
00:12:03,124 --> 00:12:03,464
Gore.

358
00:12:03,944 --> 00:12:04,584
Well, we'll get there.

359
00:12:04,744 --> 00:12:05,813
Oh, we'll get there. Okay, we're not there yet.

360
00:12:05,844 --> 00:12:06,284
Let's save it.

361
00:12:06,364 --> 00:12:06,373
Okay.

362
00:12:06,404 --> 00:12:07,034
Let's save it. But my-

363
00:12:07,044 --> 00:12:07,794
Shout out Tennessee

364
00:12:07,884 --> 00:12:10,474
... my parents wouldn't be thrilled with me listing my parents.

365
00:12:10,504 --> 00:12:10,604
Right.

366
00:12:10,864 --> 00:12:11,234
They were not-

367
00:12:11,234 --> 00:12:11,964
You were a little guy. Well, you-

368
00:12:11,974 --> 00:12:12,714
I would've been too young for this.

369
00:12:12,724 --> 00:12:13,544
I would've been too young. Yeah.

370
00:12:13,644 --> 00:12:17,594
But so that opening track, "Let's Go Crazy" reached number one on

371
00:12:17,604 --> 00:12:17,944
the Billboard-

372
00:12:18,184 --> 00:12:18,194
Yeah

373
00:12:18,194 --> 00:12:22,184
... Hot 100. And like I said, that had featured all members

374
00:12:22,224 --> 00:12:25,604
of The Revolution. The Revolution was made up of some pretty incredible

375
00:12:25,644 --> 00:12:29,384
musicians. The team really of Wendy Melvoin

376
00:12:29,504 --> 00:12:32,984
and Lisa Coleman, who are still making soundtracks to this day.

377
00:12:33,034 --> 00:12:33,034
Yeah.

378
00:12:33,044 --> 00:12:35,024
They're still an artistic partnership.

379
00:12:35,034 --> 00:12:35,034
Yeah.

380
00:12:35,064 --> 00:12:36,284
I believe at one time they were actually a

381
00:12:37,364 --> 00:12:38,164
partnership in life.

382
00:12:38,174 --> 00:12:38,174
Yeah.

383
00:12:38,184 --> 00:12:38,934
But now they're still

384
00:12:39,824 --> 00:12:43,624
a musical partnership, very successful musical partnership, Wendy and Lisa.

385
00:12:44,444 --> 00:12:48,144
Wendy Melvoin on guitars, Lisa Coleman on vocals and synthesizers.

386
00:12:48,524 --> 00:12:51,264
Matt, Dr. Fink, on the keyboards, synthesizers.

387
00:12:51,424 --> 00:12:52,044
Brownmark-

388
00:12:52,064 --> 00:12:52,074
Dr. Fink

389
00:12:52,124 --> 00:12:55,324
... Brownmark on bass and Bobby Z on drums.

390
00:12:55,404 --> 00:12:55,484
Yep.

391
00:12:55,784 --> 00:12:56,744
And then, of course,

392
00:12:58,244 --> 00:13:01,304
this next track, "Take Me With U," which features The Revolution and

393
00:13:02,284 --> 00:13:04,444
the co-star of the movie, "Purple Rain"-

394
00:13:04,724 --> 00:13:04,804
Yeah

395
00:13:04,924 --> 00:13:07,584
... Apollonia on the vocals with Prince.

396
00:13:07,924 --> 00:13:09,244
I believe there's also some-

397
00:13:09,404 --> 00:13:10,364
Apollonia Kotero.

398
00:13:10,524 --> 00:13:10,704
Yeah.

399
00:13:11,674 --> 00:13:12,244
"Take Me With U."

400
00:13:14,404 --> 00:13:16,044
Man, I remember when I first heard this, I was like-

401
00:13:16,124 --> 00:13:16,644
Just killing.

402
00:13:16,704 --> 00:13:17,284
Yeah.

403
00:13:20,564 --> 00:13:21,554
That's some rotos there, right?

404
00:13:22,424 --> 00:13:24,824
Sounds like we have roto drum drummers. What are those things?

405
00:13:24,844 --> 00:13:25,724
Are those roto drums?

406
00:13:25,824 --> 00:13:26,603
Roto drums.

407
00:13:28,104 --> 00:13:29,904
Woo. The way it slides into that tempo.

408
00:13:31,564 --> 00:13:32,564
Okay, I'm going to stop right here.

409
00:13:32,704 --> 00:13:32,864
Yeah.

410
00:13:32,944 --> 00:13:35,564
So what's happening there? Can you figure out those chords real quick?

411
00:13:38,984 --> 00:13:39,084
Yeah.

412
00:13:39,164 --> 00:13:41,144
That's a little sus too, right? Oh, me go.

413
00:13:45,324 --> 00:13:49,284
There it is, yeah. So this is a theme that's going to happen on "Purple

414
00:13:49,344 --> 00:13:49,854
Rain." We heard it-

415
00:13:50,104 --> 00:13:50,114
Yeah

416
00:13:50,114 --> 00:13:50,994
... on "Let's Go Crazy" on the

417
00:13:53,644 --> 00:13:54,664
. It's called a pedal point.

418
00:13:54,724 --> 00:13:54,744
Yeah.

419
00:13:54,784 --> 00:13:58,504
That bass note is going to stay the same, and they're going to move chords

420
00:13:58,604 --> 00:14:02,544
over that bass note. It happens on four or five songs I have.

421
00:14:03,224 --> 00:14:05,304
It happens on four tracks on this album.

422
00:14:05,344 --> 00:14:05,404
Mm-hmm.

423
00:14:05,444 --> 00:14:09,024
The first two tracks feature those pedal points, musical pedal points, where the

424
00:14:09,044 --> 00:14:09,844
bass just stays on that

425
00:14:11,044 --> 00:14:12,114
and the chords move over-

426
00:14:12,144 --> 00:14:12,174
Yeah

427
00:14:12,174 --> 00:14:16,094
... that bass without the bass moving, which isn't unusual, but the effect that

428
00:14:16,124 --> 00:14:19,753
it creates, especially four times on this album, creates this feeling of

429
00:14:19,804 --> 00:14:21,044
we're in the pocket.

430
00:14:21,184 --> 00:14:21,444
Yeah.

431
00:14:21,464 --> 00:14:24,804
There's no big dramatic harmonic changes.

432
00:14:24,864 --> 00:14:24,944
No.

433
00:14:25,184 --> 00:14:28,874
It's like we're zoning in to this pedal, to this-

434
00:14:28,884 --> 00:14:29,344
Yeah

435
00:14:29,444 --> 00:14:29,533
... to this

436
00:14:29,614 --> 00:14:30,404
It's kind of set in the-

437
00:14:30,584 --> 00:14:31,284
It's a drone.

438
00:14:31,344 --> 00:14:34,164
But think about what it's coming off of, that epic intro with

439
00:14:34,604 --> 00:14:36,144
a different tempo, and then-

440
00:14:36,184 --> 00:14:36,334
Oh, yeah

441
00:14:36,334 --> 00:14:37,204
... it slides into that.

442
00:14:37,244 --> 00:14:37,484
Yeah.

443
00:14:37,524 --> 00:14:40,884
So a lesser artist would've gone right to this pedal, which still would've been

444
00:14:40,964 --> 00:14:41,223
cool.

445
00:14:42,064 --> 00:14:43,664
One, two, three, four,

446
00:14:45,044 --> 00:14:47,804
but play what it does before it, and then check out how it feels.

447
00:14:49,564 --> 00:14:50,384
Yeah, this dramatic-

448
00:14:50,564 --> 00:14:50,604
Yeah

449
00:14:50,624 --> 00:14:51,154
... cinematic

450
00:14:52,324 --> 00:14:52,664
intro.

451
00:14:55,044 --> 00:14:55,424
That big...

452
00:14:56,864 --> 00:14:59,064
And the bass is moving around a lot. It's the opposite of a...

453
00:15:01,544 --> 00:15:02,564
Now we got our first major,

454
00:15:03,404 --> 00:15:05,904
and it slows down a little bit. Oh. Right?

455
00:15:07,144 --> 00:15:07,904
But it's just hanging out.

456
00:15:10,184 --> 00:15:11,644
Same kind of thing on "Let's Go Crazy."

457
00:15:13,684 --> 00:15:14,264
Let me get my...

458
00:15:17,584 --> 00:15:18,764
Man, in his like clavé-

459
00:15:18,774 --> 00:15:20,533
I see a sky. The pounding of my heart

460
00:15:20,544 --> 00:15:21,384
... syncopation.

461
00:15:22,284 --> 00:15:23,504
It beats so strong.

462
00:15:26,264 --> 00:15:29,324
It's in your eyes. What can I say?

463
00:15:30,184 --> 00:15:31,424
They turn me on.

464
00:15:32,033 --> 00:15:32,864
And then where does it go here?

465
00:15:34,504 --> 00:15:38,224
I don't care where we go. I don't

466
00:15:38,344 --> 00:15:40,064
care what we do.

467
00:15:42,304 --> 00:15:46,124
I don't care, pretty baby. Just take

468
00:15:46,164 --> 00:15:47,404
me with you.

469
00:15:47,464 --> 00:15:48,274
But it makes those bass movements.

470
00:15:48,284 --> 00:15:49,514
Oh, that's such a Prince cadence.

471
00:15:50,644 --> 00:15:53,954
Well, yeah. Corny if anybody else does it.

472
00:15:53,984 --> 00:15:54,554
Oh, totally.

473
00:15:54,684 --> 00:15:55,464
But Prince nails it.

474
00:15:55,544 --> 00:15:57,984
Now I'm starting to think like that's the... Woo.

475
00:15:58,084 --> 00:15:58,664
Those strings.

476
00:15:58,724 --> 00:15:58,884
Yeah.

477
00:15:59,024 --> 00:15:59,444
Yeah.

478
00:16:00,004 --> 00:16:01,144
That's like some Synclavier, huh?

479
00:16:02,164 --> 00:16:03,124
No, that's a real string section.

480
00:16:03,144 --> 00:16:03,524
Oh, is that real?

481
00:16:03,644 --> 00:16:03,864
Yeah.

482
00:16:05,334 --> 00:16:05,564
Oh, yeah.

483
00:16:05,624 --> 00:16:07,264
They did a string-

484
00:16:07,594 --> 00:16:07,594
All right

485
00:16:07,604 --> 00:16:09,664
... session on three of the tracks.

486
00:16:09,844 --> 00:16:09,884
Yeah.

487
00:16:09,894 --> 00:16:13,864
"Take Me With U," "Baby I'm a Star," and "Purple Rain," arranged by

488
00:16:14,344 --> 00:16:16,484
Prince and Wendy, and conducted by Wendy and Lisa.

489
00:16:16,584 --> 00:16:16,864
Nice.

490
00:16:16,984 --> 00:16:17,144
Yeah.

491
00:16:17,524 --> 00:16:18,364
Yeah, now that I hear...

492
00:16:18,684 --> 00:16:18,814
Take me with you.

493
00:16:18,814 --> 00:16:19,104
You.

494
00:16:22,244 --> 00:16:22,393
I don't care-

495
00:16:22,393 --> 00:16:23,024
Goes to the one

496
00:16:24,084 --> 00:16:24,354
... if we spend the night.

497
00:16:24,354 --> 00:16:25,404
Oh, Prince loves the bridges.

498
00:16:25,524 --> 00:16:27,544
Oh, sorry, arranged by Lisa and Prince. Not Wendy.

499
00:16:27,614 --> 00:16:27,614
Okay.

500
00:16:27,644 --> 00:16:29,744
Lisa and Prince, and conducted by Wendy and Lisa.

501
00:16:29,854 --> 00:16:33,824
I don't care if we spend the night on the town.

502
00:16:37,344 --> 00:16:37,914
All I want is-

503
00:16:37,914 --> 00:16:39,084
Woo. Two chord

504
00:16:39,204 --> 00:16:41,244
... to spend the night together.

505
00:16:45,084 --> 00:16:48,893
All I want is to spend the night in your arms.

506
00:16:49,004 --> 00:16:52,024
That's a little Stevie. That's some Stevie mover right there.

507
00:16:52,564 --> 00:16:52,884
Uh.

508
00:16:53,724 --> 00:16:55,614
I believe Lisa's singing on this too with-

509
00:16:55,644 --> 00:16:55,764
Yeah

510
00:16:55,964 --> 00:16:56,544
... Apollonia.

511
00:16:57,024 --> 00:17:00,044
And you know what's interesting? Prince on, it's really his whole style, but

512
00:17:00,084 --> 00:17:01,294
especially this record-

513
00:17:02,304 --> 00:17:02,664
Yeah.

514
00:17:02,944 --> 00:17:03,234
Take me with you.

515
00:17:03,244 --> 00:17:03,724
He's

516
00:17:04,604 --> 00:17:06,884
very specific. There's not a lot of like...

517
00:17:08,184 --> 00:17:08,444
Woo,

518
00:17:09,335 --> 00:17:09,984
Wherever we're going.

519
00:17:10,325 --> 00:17:13,524
He's very intentional about his phrasing, like where the rhythm lies with his

520
00:17:13,565 --> 00:17:13,944
melody.

521
00:17:14,124 --> 00:17:14,204
Yeah.

522
00:17:14,214 --> 00:17:17,785
He doesn't do a lot of dancing on top of it. It's like built into the melody.

523
00:17:18,524 --> 00:17:20,344
He'll do some, he'll use other textures.

524
00:17:20,424 --> 00:17:23,764
Yeah. When he's improvising, he'll riff or whatever in between.

525
00:17:24,244 --> 00:17:25,514
I don't care where we go.

526
00:17:25,585 --> 00:17:27,065
And like in "Doves Cry" at the end, he's...

527
00:17:27,424 --> 00:17:29,364
I don't care what we do.

528
00:17:29,444 --> 00:17:30,904
But like that's a, where, what we...

529
00:17:31,124 --> 00:17:34,284
It's all part of a program of rhythms.

530
00:17:35,024 --> 00:17:37,244
I don't care, pretty baby. Just take me with you.

531
00:17:37,334 --> 00:17:37,604
You. Woo.

532
00:17:39,124 --> 00:17:40,234
Just take me with you.

533
00:17:40,384 --> 00:17:42,774
One, four, one. It's like...

534
00:17:42,834 --> 00:17:45,304
Won't you take me with you?

535
00:17:46,644 --> 00:17:49,504
Honey, take me with you.

536
00:17:54,224 --> 00:17:55,184
Now, having said that-

537
00:17:55,304 --> 00:17:58,544
I'm going to tell you, the movie is worth it just for the Apollonia part, too.

538
00:17:58,684 --> 00:17:58,764
Yes.

539
00:17:58,784 --> 00:17:59,784
She's pretty incredible.

540
00:17:59,984 --> 00:18:00,744
Slow your roll there.

541
00:18:00,964 --> 00:18:01,264
Star.

542
00:18:01,294 --> 00:18:01,384
Relax there, buddy.

543
00:18:01,393 --> 00:18:02,604
Star right there. Yeah.

544
00:18:02,644 --> 00:18:03,964
How would you grade her acting, though?

545
00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:04,880
Good

546
00:18:04,980 --> 00:18:05,440
... in the movie.

547
00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:06,560
Good.

548
00:18:08,820 --> 00:18:11,420
Okay. Anyway, I say I haven't seen it in a long time.

549
00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:12,880
It's just one of those movies that I remember-

550
00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:14,640
No, she's great. She's magnetic.

551
00:18:14,750 --> 00:18:15,320
She's magnetic.

552
00:18:15,420 --> 00:18:15,680
Yeah.

553
00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:19,160
I remember the level of acting from Morris

554
00:18:19,260 --> 00:18:20,440
Day, Prince-

555
00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:21,290
No, Morris Day is hilarious

556
00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:21,920
... Apollonia.

557
00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:23,130
I won't hear any Morris Day slander at all.

558
00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:26,280
Actually, he might be the best at... I mean, he's playing himself, right?

559
00:18:26,290 --> 00:18:26,290
Yeah, essentially.

560
00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:27,120
He's really good.

561
00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:27,860
Yeah.

562
00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:29,950
Prince. I mean, Prince is playing himself.

563
00:18:29,950 --> 00:18:30,580
He's an scoundrel.

564
00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,580
Everyone's playing themselves. It's just that there's some...

565
00:18:34,300 --> 00:18:36,220
Okay, we're not doing the movie. This is not the Rewatchables.

566
00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:37,260
We're doing the album, so-

567
00:18:37,300 --> 00:18:39,080
It's not, can it be for just one day?

568
00:18:40,630 --> 00:18:40,630
Okay.

569
00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:43,400
Can we just get Sean Fennessey right here to talk about... No? Okay.

570
00:18:43,540 --> 00:18:46,060
Okay, good. Now, having said that, can I be honest?

571
00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:46,280
Yeah.

572
00:18:46,349 --> 00:18:48,620
"Take Me With U" has never been my favorite song on this album.

573
00:18:48,660 --> 00:18:50,520
I love "Take Me With U." You're crazy.

574
00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:51,060
Are you serious?

575
00:18:51,140 --> 00:18:51,340
I love it.

576
00:18:51,360 --> 00:18:52,160
It's one of your favorites?

577
00:18:52,260 --> 00:18:53,380
I really like it a lot.

578
00:18:53,410 --> 00:18:53,410
Okay, it's not.

579
00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:53,550
Yeah.

580
00:18:53,980 --> 00:18:55,480
I feel like it's a little bit of a dip on the album.

581
00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:56,700
This is Wendy Melvoin.

582
00:18:56,740 --> 00:18:58,880
I love the intro, and I love the riff.

583
00:19:01,620 --> 00:19:02,640
Oh, Peter, that's real nice.

584
00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:07,300
But you know it's July, right? It's not Christmastime.

585
00:19:07,340 --> 00:19:07,660
Really?

586
00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:08,140
Yeah.

587
00:19:08,180 --> 00:19:11,080
It feels like it's Christmas because we got this big sale going on here at Open

588
00:19:11,220 --> 00:19:11,800
Studio.

589
00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:13,200
Oh, I could see why you would think that.

590
00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:17,200
Yeah, it is our big summer sale, 50% off Open Studio annual membership.

591
00:19:17,300 --> 00:19:21,220
So it does feel like Christmas in July because you get all of our great Open

592
00:19:21,340 --> 00:19:24,510
Studio courses, including our weekly lesson pathways.

593
00:19:24,700 --> 00:19:27,990
I teach the beginner and the intermediate, you teach the advanced, and we've got

594
00:19:28,020 --> 00:19:31,260
courses from people like Larry Goldings, Sullivan Fortner, Emmet Cohen-

595
00:19:31,270 --> 00:19:31,270
Yeah

596
00:19:31,270 --> 00:19:34,240
... Fred Hersch, Geoffrey Keezer, and much, much more.

597
00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:38,300
Go to openstudiojazz.com to save 50% off our annual

598
00:19:38,360 --> 00:19:42,040
membership. That's openstudiojazz.com to save 50% off an Open

599
00:19:42,120 --> 00:19:43,560
Studio annual membership.

600
00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:44,860
Well, now I feel like I should be playing

601
00:19:47,120 --> 00:19:48,540
Yeah, more appropriate.

602
00:19:58,440 --> 00:19:58,940
Yeah.

603
00:19:59,000 --> 00:19:59,860
Yeah, but it's fine.

604
00:19:59,890 --> 00:20:03,500
Here's Wendy talking about being hired to join The Revolution.

605
00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:06,460
I was in Lisa's room, and I was just practicing my guitar.

606
00:20:07,780 --> 00:20:08,340
And

607
00:20:09,260 --> 00:20:09,660
Prince

608
00:20:10,900 --> 00:20:12,520
walked down the hotel,

609
00:20:13,619 --> 00:20:16,920
the hallway to get to his room, and he knocked on the door.

610
00:20:16,970 --> 00:20:18,210
"Who's playing guitar in there?"

611
00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,900
And Lisa opened the door, and he saw me, and he had

612
00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:26,170
known me, and he's like, "You play?"

613
00:20:27,940 --> 00:20:29,420
And I said, "Yeah."

614
00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:32,980
And he said, "Play me something."

615
00:20:34,300 --> 00:20:37,980
And I said, "Wendy, don't freeze. Don't freeze."

616
00:20:38,820 --> 00:20:39,700
"Don't freeze."

617
00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,240
I knew at that point I had a tendency to freeze.

618
00:20:43,710 --> 00:20:45,439
The Warner Brothers frog.

619
00:20:47,360 --> 00:20:48,409
And instead of like-

620
00:20:48,430 --> 00:20:49,300
"I'll be a bunny."

621
00:20:49,430 --> 00:20:53,420
"Wee-loo, wee-loo." I just was like, "No, that's not my gift."

622
00:20:53,770 --> 00:20:53,770
Right.

623
00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:57,620
I just stretched this massive, beautiful chord and just

624
00:20:57,660 --> 00:20:59,220
played a progression for him.

625
00:21:00,300 --> 00:21:01,620
And he just sort of went, "Hmm."

626
00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:04,080
Yeah, sounds like him.

627
00:21:04,750 --> 00:21:04,750
"Hmm."

628
00:21:04,780 --> 00:21:06,840
And didn't speak and just kept staring.

629
00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:08,340
And I was like,

630
00:21:09,260 --> 00:21:09,270
"Okay."

631
00:21:09,300 --> 00:21:10,680
Well, he looked at you.

632
00:21:10,900 --> 00:21:11,080
Yeah.

633
00:21:12,120 --> 00:21:16,100
You know, Wendy and Lisa, especially, the whole Revolution, actually, according

634
00:21:16,140 --> 00:21:19,800
to a lot of stories, had a lot of input collaboratively on this album, especially

635
00:21:19,860 --> 00:21:22,140
musically. I think Prince wrote all the lyrics for everything.

636
00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,840
But he let them have ideas-

637
00:21:24,980 --> 00:21:25,060
Yeah

638
00:21:25,070 --> 00:21:27,420
... and do things, especially Wendy and Lisa-

639
00:21:27,820 --> 00:21:28,100
Yeah

640
00:21:28,110 --> 00:21:29,820
... were very much a big part of this.

641
00:21:29,900 --> 00:21:30,150
Oh, massive.

642
00:21:30,150 --> 00:21:32,520
And they were very free with their ideas for this project.

643
00:21:32,820 --> 00:21:34,320
So I'm just remembering back to this time.

644
00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:35,960
I'm a 14-year-old boy,

645
00:21:37,060 --> 00:21:40,800
and I'm listening to this record mostly, at first,

646
00:21:40,900 --> 00:21:44,240
through the wall into my sister's room. Shout out Nancy Martin.

647
00:21:44,460 --> 00:21:44,760
Yeah.

648
00:21:44,780 --> 00:21:47,820
My sister, she was a senior in high school at the time. She loved this record.

649
00:21:47,860 --> 00:21:50,840
She loved Prince. She had been a big Prince fan, so I'd heard a lot of his music,

650
00:21:50,900 --> 00:21:53,960
but I was also kind of a jazz nerd. But I was grasping at straws at that point.

651
00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:55,800
I don't know if you remember age 14, man.

652
00:21:55,830 --> 00:21:55,830
No.

653
00:21:55,860 --> 00:21:57,310
You're just trying to survive out here, buddy.

654
00:21:57,380 --> 00:21:58,140
I'm trying to forget it.

655
00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,000
You're just trying to wear the right thing or play the right thing.

656
00:22:01,010 --> 00:22:01,010
Yeah.

657
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:02,140
But I was doing some gigs or whatever.

658
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:02,310
So I

659
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,960
liked this record, and it was on the radio. It was everywhere, right?

660
00:22:06,970 --> 00:22:07,620
It was everywhere.

661
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:11,570
But Wendy and Lisa, seeing them in the video, hearing them

662
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:15,330
play. I didn't really know because you only knew what

663
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,500
you'd heard on the radio and saw in the videos-

664
00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:18,040
Yeah

665
00:22:18,050 --> 00:22:19,560
... what the label was putting out there.

666
00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,300
Maybe you'd see them on Johnny Carson or Soul Train or some-

667
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:22,659
Yeah

668
00:22:22,669 --> 00:22:24,300
... variety show. But basically,

669
00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,660
they were living the dream. They're playing with Prince.

670
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:29,180
And I couldn't tell or, like, they all...

671
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:33,260
In my mind, it was like this wild orgy all the time with Prince and his band.

672
00:22:33,300 --> 00:22:34,820
That's what they were portraying.

673
00:22:35,060 --> 00:22:36,489
Well, I wonder where you would've got that idea from.

674
00:22:36,510 --> 00:22:40,100
That's right. But the thing was, as you learn about it, it was probably

675
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,700
2% that. It was like 98%, like she was saying-

676
00:22:42,710 --> 00:22:43,100
A lot of work

677
00:22:43,140 --> 00:22:44,400
... a lot of work and like shedding.

678
00:22:44,430 --> 00:22:44,430
Yeah.

679
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:44,840
They'll try

680
00:22:45,700 --> 00:22:46,240
it again.

681
00:22:46,340 --> 00:22:47,460
I don't think it was an easy vanity.

682
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,400
Where's the subpoena for those chord changes?

683
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:50,980
Yeah, I think there was a lot of rehearsing.

684
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:53,980
Prince was probably a little bit of a perfectionist.

685
00:22:54,010 --> 00:22:54,010
Yeah.

686
00:22:54,010 --> 00:22:57,920
And he definitely wanted to control as much of his art as possible, which

687
00:22:57,940 --> 00:23:00,830
is probably what made it so great. But man, it makes its way into-

688
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:02,400
That's the thing. They're always saying Prince was a freak.

689
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,000
I think he was more of a control freak than... Well, maybe both.

690
00:23:05,120 --> 00:23:09,060
Probably. But when you watch the movie, that actually becomes a plot

691
00:23:09,100 --> 00:23:12,300
line where Wendy and Lisa are trying to get him to play some of their songs.

692
00:23:12,420 --> 00:23:12,540
Yeah.

693
00:23:12,549 --> 00:23:13,200
But apparently that was-

694
00:23:13,340 --> 00:23:14,040
That was happening

695
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:15,020
... art imitating life.

696
00:23:15,140 --> 00:23:15,239
Yeah.

697
00:23:15,260 --> 00:23:15,660
They were

698
00:23:16,940 --> 00:23:20,880
feeding some ideas musically to him that he was eventually open

699
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:21,420
to, apparently.

700
00:23:21,460 --> 00:23:21,990
Yeah.

701
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,500
Which is kind of cool because like I said, those albums from 1978 up to this point

702
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,360
were, a lot of them were just Prince.

703
00:23:28,420 --> 00:23:28,840
Yeah.

704
00:23:28,940 --> 00:23:31,280
Just writing, producing, playing everything.

705
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:35,670
And so to have more of an open collaboration on this album, and

706
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,220
also for it to be so huge, I think was very special.

707
00:23:38,500 --> 00:23:40,300
The next track is, I mean, honestly, Peter-

708
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,600
And look, what I'm saying is going to make more sense, not on the next track, but

709
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:43,620
after that, "Computer Blue."

710
00:23:43,740 --> 00:23:43,750
Yeah.

711
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:44,700
We'll talk about that too.

712
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:46,490
No, the next track is all Prince, and it's-

713
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:46,880
Oh

714
00:23:47,060 --> 00:23:49,460
... it's just one of the most amazing songs in 1984.

715
00:23:49,500 --> 00:23:50,320
It's "The Beautiful Ones."

716
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:03,140
Man, this is such a...

717
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:06,360
So gorgeous.

718
00:24:11,264 --> 00:24:13,504
Those major sixes, they're so unique.

719
00:24:18,504 --> 00:24:19,564
Baby, baby, baby.

720
00:24:20,844 --> 00:24:21,904
Those open fifths.

721
00:24:21,964 --> 00:24:22,344
Damn.

722
00:24:25,064 --> 00:24:27,124
What's it gonna be?

723
00:24:31,724 --> 00:24:33,684
Baby, baby, baby.

724
00:24:34,504 --> 00:24:35,604
Woo.

725
00:24:37,724 --> 00:24:38,454
Is it here you want to be?

726
00:24:38,454 --> 00:24:39,544
Those synth swells.

727
00:24:39,644 --> 00:24:39,924
Yeah.

728
00:24:40,724 --> 00:24:42,524
The placement on this. On this.

729
00:24:43,284 --> 00:24:46,744
Don't make me waste my time.

730
00:24:47,204 --> 00:24:48,244
What a great riff.

731
00:24:49,144 --> 00:24:49,424
Ooh.

732
00:24:49,864 --> 00:24:53,384
Don't make me lose my mind,

733
00:24:54,244 --> 00:24:55,344
baby.

734
00:24:55,824 --> 00:24:56,584
The way it goes back.

735
00:24:58,124 --> 00:24:59,104
Baby, baby.

736
00:24:59,464 --> 00:25:00,224
We're gonna talk about that.

737
00:25:01,564 --> 00:25:02,404
That little shaker.

738
00:25:04,244 --> 00:25:07,444
Every Prince album contains some of the greatest vocal performances-

739
00:25:07,484 --> 00:25:07,494
Yeah

740
00:25:07,494 --> 00:25:08,384
... in pop music history.

741
00:25:08,484 --> 00:25:08,584
Yeah.

742
00:25:08,944 --> 00:25:09,964
One of the greatest vocalists.

743
00:25:10,004 --> 00:25:12,644
These kind of ballads. Would you call this a ballad? Yeah, this is a ballad.

744
00:25:12,784 --> 00:25:13,624
It's a Prince ballad.

745
00:25:13,924 --> 00:25:15,384
I mean, if you're dancing to this, it's a slow dance.

746
00:25:15,444 --> 00:25:15,604
Yeah.

747
00:25:15,744 --> 00:25:15,904
Yeah.

748
00:25:17,364 --> 00:25:19,464
But it's thick. I mean, there's a lot going on in there.

749
00:25:20,404 --> 00:25:21,083
Just as please you right.

750
00:25:21,104 --> 00:25:21,864
And this bridge.

751
00:25:22,984 --> 00:25:26,544
You are so hard to find.

752
00:25:29,084 --> 00:25:30,824
It didn't need that. I did it, though.

753
00:25:31,764 --> 00:25:32,784
I did. That's with jazz.

754
00:25:33,824 --> 00:25:37,684
Part of our new series, Jazz Musicians Ruin Prince. All that.

755
00:25:37,744 --> 00:25:38,414
Baby.

756
00:25:38,464 --> 00:25:39,084
Yeah.

757
00:25:40,884 --> 00:25:43,464
Man, his use of major six versus major seven.

758
00:25:43,664 --> 00:25:43,824
Yeah.

759
00:25:44,344 --> 00:25:47,764
Bring to life a vision in one's mind.

760
00:25:49,004 --> 00:25:49,524
And I think,

761
00:25:50,444 --> 00:25:51,624
man, there's so much going on here.

762
00:25:52,844 --> 00:25:54,824
You want to always smash the picture.

763
00:25:56,364 --> 00:25:59,964
When you get that much going on, you have to nail the details and how they set

764
00:26:00,344 --> 00:26:02,824
together, and what's the thing that's staying there?

765
00:26:10,584 --> 00:26:11,904
Can we cut his keyboard, please?

766
00:26:17,124 --> 00:26:17,223
Baby.

767
00:26:17,324 --> 00:26:17,644
Ah.

768
00:26:17,724 --> 00:26:18,684
If I told you.

769
00:26:18,704 --> 00:26:19,584
I'm gonna show y'all that.

770
00:26:20,644 --> 00:26:22,124
Ba, ga, ga-ga-ga.

771
00:26:23,684 --> 00:26:25,094
That I was in love with you.

772
00:26:25,164 --> 00:26:25,684
And each

773
00:26:26,644 --> 00:26:28,724
verse adds a little bit more.

774
00:26:28,784 --> 00:26:28,884
Ah.

775
00:26:29,544 --> 00:26:30,804
A few more counter melodies.

776
00:26:35,464 --> 00:26:36,013
Baby, baby, baby.

777
00:26:36,104 --> 00:26:36,824
Sharp eleven.

778
00:26:38,124 --> 00:26:38,984
Would that be cool?

779
00:26:39,484 --> 00:26:40,184
"Would that be cool?"

780
00:26:40,464 --> 00:26:41,634
Yes. It's one of my favorite moments.

781
00:26:41,634 --> 00:26:42,304
You want a subpoena?

782
00:26:42,844 --> 00:26:43,924
One of my favorite moments.

783
00:26:44,584 --> 00:26:46,244
I want to tell you, baby.

784
00:26:50,304 --> 00:26:52,564
That I was in love with

785
00:26:53,704 --> 00:26:54,404
you.

786
00:26:54,624 --> 00:26:55,284
This line here.

787
00:26:56,744 --> 00:26:58,924
Oh, baby, baby.

788
00:27:01,284 --> 00:27:03,044
If we got married.

789
00:27:03,324 --> 00:27:04,084
"If we got married."

790
00:27:04,744 --> 00:27:05,544
Would that be cool?

791
00:27:05,904 --> 00:27:08,344
"Would that be cool?" If not, I give you a subpoena.

792
00:27:08,524 --> 00:27:11,244
It's so cool. "If we got married, would that be cool?"

793
00:27:13,444 --> 00:27:17,244
He's asking her for a Coke. "If I grab the Coke out of your fridge,

794
00:27:17,644 --> 00:27:18,483
would that be cool?"

795
00:27:19,084 --> 00:27:21,804
You will always be too good.

796
00:27:23,364 --> 00:27:26,184
Okay, so there he goes up to the tonic. That's the first time.

797
00:27:26,224 --> 00:27:27,424
It's always like the sixth.

798
00:27:27,604 --> 00:27:27,684
Yeah.

799
00:27:27,744 --> 00:27:29,004
The major seventh, the fifth.

800
00:27:29,304 --> 00:27:29,424
Yeah.

801
00:27:29,544 --> 00:27:32,643
Man, such an apex moment of this song.

802
00:27:32,694 --> 00:27:34,684
I know. Well, it's almost like Prince knows what he's doing, Pete.

803
00:27:34,744 --> 00:27:37,024
Man. Okay, can we break down some of this harmony?

804
00:27:37,034 --> 00:27:37,034
Yeah.

805
00:27:37,034 --> 00:27:37,464
Because this is

806
00:27:38,744 --> 00:27:40,174
and then he understands-

807
00:27:40,264 --> 00:27:40,424
Yeah

808
00:27:40,434 --> 00:27:44,114
... how to take you to a place harmonically and then make you feel a

809
00:27:44,124 --> 00:27:45,574
different way. He's a master of that.

810
00:27:45,584 --> 00:27:48,914
That synth line goes down to that sharp 11 or flat five, that "Nyaaa".

811
00:27:49,184 --> 00:27:52,224
Yeah, and then it doesn't go back until there again. It does it two times.

812
00:27:52,304 --> 00:27:55,814
So, I think that, and I remember now, because I used to get in arguments with my

813
00:27:55,844 --> 00:27:58,054
sister, because I was super judgy. Can you imagine that?

814
00:27:58,084 --> 00:27:58,404
Well-

815
00:27:58,414 --> 00:27:59,464
It doesn't seem like something I would be

816
00:27:59,484 --> 00:28:01,244
... to be fair, you're 14.

817
00:28:01,444 --> 00:28:01,584
Yeah.

818
00:28:01,764 --> 00:28:03,684
And you're a young jazz pianist.

819
00:28:03,744 --> 00:28:03,884
Yeah.

820
00:28:04,144 --> 00:28:07,644
I'm guessing that you didn't listen to anything beyond 1963.

821
00:28:07,804 --> 00:28:08,004
No.

822
00:28:08,204 --> 00:28:08,284
Yeah.

823
00:28:08,624 --> 00:28:12,264
No, I was super judgy. Although I was always listening to the radio,

824
00:28:12,444 --> 00:28:14,984
and just because it was... and videos.

825
00:28:15,064 --> 00:28:15,864
Yeah, sure.

826
00:28:15,924 --> 00:28:16,224
So I wasn't-

827
00:28:16,324 --> 00:28:17,064
MTV was huge.

828
00:28:17,104 --> 00:28:20,904
But my thing was more like, okay, I enjoy this, but this is simple and

829
00:28:20,924 --> 00:28:23,144
basic. And I remember my sister being like, "You don't understand.

830
00:28:23,224 --> 00:28:25,604
Prince is a musical genius." And I was like, "No."

831
00:28:25,624 --> 00:28:26,394
No, Herbie Hancock is a musical genius.

832
00:28:26,404 --> 00:28:27,624
Yeah, exactly. No, that's what I was saying.

833
00:28:27,664 --> 00:28:30,684
I was like, "Herbie, he plays all these different chords." And I remember my sister

834
00:28:30,724 --> 00:28:33,593
playing this, and she's like, "Well, listen to those chords at the bridge."

835
00:28:33,864 --> 00:28:33,914
Yeah.

836
00:28:33,974 --> 00:28:36,524
"Do you know that?" And I couldn't figure it out, but I went in there, tried to

837
00:28:36,584 --> 00:28:39,144
figure it out, and I couldn't at the time. I kind of could.

838
00:28:39,153 --> 00:28:39,153
I thought I-

839
00:28:39,164 --> 00:28:40,484
God bless you, Nancy Martin, for chatting.

840
00:28:40,494 --> 00:28:40,494
Yeah

841
00:28:40,494 --> 00:28:42,403
... I know, but that's when I started thinking.

842
00:28:42,464 --> 00:28:44,664
I'm like, "Oh, okay." And I mean, this is the other thing.

843
00:28:44,704 --> 00:28:48,634
It's never all one thing. I had been listening to Stevie at that point, and so I

844
00:28:48,664 --> 00:28:52,394
understood the harmonic depth. And there's a lot of Stevie imprint, actually, on

845
00:28:52,424 --> 00:28:56,304
this record. I always thought it was more, I mean, certainly

846
00:28:56,314 --> 00:28:59,004
"Sign O' the Times" we talked about it, for sure. It comes out in there.

847
00:28:59,024 --> 00:29:00,584
But there's a lot of compositional stuff.

848
00:29:00,604 --> 00:29:03,484
But I think this bridge, there's a couple things happening.

849
00:29:04,664 --> 00:29:05,324
At the beginning.

850
00:29:07,304 --> 00:29:10,144
And I can't remember the voicing, but it's definitely like a major six, which is a

851
00:29:10,184 --> 00:29:12,144
dangerous, corny chord to play.

852
00:29:12,214 --> 00:29:13,854
Well, but we already established this.

853
00:29:13,984 --> 00:29:17,804
Prince can do things that in other hands might be kind of corny.

854
00:29:18,024 --> 00:29:18,984
Yeah, just like, say-

855
00:29:19,104 --> 00:29:19,804
But they never are when he-

856
00:29:19,964 --> 00:29:21,824
"Do you want a subpoena?" But because he's all in on it.

857
00:29:21,864 --> 00:29:22,464
Just like with-

858
00:29:22,544 --> 00:29:23,304
What is it, a subpoena?

859
00:29:23,404 --> 00:29:26,684
What is it, a subpoena? But I'm saying, because he keeps doing that, and he's

860
00:29:26,724 --> 00:29:30,364
relentless with those two. F major six to B flat major six.

861
00:29:30,424 --> 00:29:30,564
Yeah.

862
00:29:30,874 --> 00:29:34,124
Would be so corny, but then he's combining it with these big fat

863
00:29:35,044 --> 00:29:36,144
parallel fifths, right?

864
00:29:36,244 --> 00:29:36,444
Yeah.

865
00:29:36,824 --> 00:29:37,404
But then the bridge-

866
00:29:37,414 --> 00:29:38,664
And these sweeping textures, too.

867
00:29:38,924 --> 00:29:39,084
Yeah.

868
00:29:39,094 --> 00:29:40,264
These sweeping synth textures.

869
00:29:42,924 --> 00:29:43,964
So that's that moo chord.

870
00:29:45,814 --> 00:29:47,964
But I love the way he comes out of it, two different ways.

871
00:29:50,384 --> 00:29:53,424
And then back to that. But the second time, every other time,

872
00:29:55,984 --> 00:29:59,864
it's like a little false five, then to the one, and it feels...

873
00:29:59,984 --> 00:30:03,304
And it's usually there or there. But that last time it goes up to the tonic. Okay.

874
00:30:03,444 --> 00:30:03,674
You want to hear-

875
00:30:03,704 --> 00:30:04,864
I'm getting my a*s out the nerd nook.

876
00:30:04,924 --> 00:30:07,444
You want to hear a couple of other albums that were released in 1984?

877
00:30:07,684 --> 00:30:08,084
Yes.

878
00:30:08,104 --> 00:30:09,524
Bruce Springsteen, "Born in the USA."

879
00:30:09,684 --> 00:30:10,264
Oh, that was a big one.

880
00:30:10,404 --> 00:30:11,564
Tina Turner, "Private Dancer."

881
00:30:11,624 --> 00:30:12,144
That was a big one.

882
00:30:12,204 --> 00:30:13,144
Madonna, "Like a Virgin."

883
00:30:13,204 --> 00:30:13,504
Damn.

884
00:30:13,784 --> 00:30:16,964
Sade, "Diamond Life." We used to be a real place, Peter, with real music.

885
00:30:17,424 --> 00:30:19,424
And the fact that this was bigger than... Is that possible?

886
00:30:19,484 --> 00:30:20,364
It was bigger than any of those.

887
00:30:20,404 --> 00:30:20,944
It was.

888
00:30:21,064 --> 00:30:22,604
In the fall, for sure.

889
00:30:22,644 --> 00:30:22,764
This album.

890
00:30:22,784 --> 00:30:23,744
Damn. Yeah.

891
00:30:23,764 --> 00:30:24,264
Huge album.

892
00:30:24,444 --> 00:30:24,643
Yeah.

893
00:30:24,824 --> 00:30:26,944
Next up is "Computer Blue," which starts with a little-

894
00:30:27,364 --> 00:30:28,104
Okay, this is what I'm talking about.

895
00:30:28,124 --> 00:30:29,734
When I heard this-

896
00:30:29,784 --> 00:30:29,904
Yeah

897
00:30:30,464 --> 00:30:30,864
... I was just

898
00:30:32,044 --> 00:30:35,724
drawn in by the voice, and I was just like, "I want to be in that pool." I

899
00:30:35,984 --> 00:30:36,804
thought it was a hot tub.

900
00:30:36,874 --> 00:30:37,394
They talked about it.

901
00:30:37,424 --> 00:30:38,394
In my mind, it was.

902
00:30:38,424 --> 00:30:41,824
I think Wendy and Lisa talked about it, and Prince just handed them a script.

903
00:30:42,364 --> 00:30:42,534
Because

904
00:30:43,364 --> 00:30:46,244
someone asked them, "Do you know what that meant?" And they were like, "No, we had

905
00:30:46,264 --> 00:30:47,604
no idea what we were talking about.

906
00:30:47,724 --> 00:30:49,524
We were just reading the lines that Prince gave us."

907
00:30:51,444 --> 00:30:52,324
Wendy?

908
00:30:53,324 --> 00:30:54,144
Yes, Lisa.

909
00:30:55,184 --> 00:30:56,564
Is the water warm enough?

910
00:30:57,844 --> 00:30:58,584
Yes, Lisa.

911
00:31:00,104 --> 00:31:01,004
Shall we begin?

912
00:31:02,904 --> 00:31:04,404
I still don't know what it means.

913
00:31:06,424 --> 00:31:07,844
But I'm curious.

914
00:31:08,584 --> 00:31:08,924
I mean,

915
00:31:09,744 --> 00:31:12,333
now I probably know what it means, but when I was 14, think of all the different

916
00:31:12,384 --> 00:31:15,114
permutations of what it could mean when they're going through your stupid little

917
00:31:15,124 --> 00:31:16,204
brain.

918
00:31:16,264 --> 00:31:17,704
So hip, though. The song is so hip.

919
00:31:21,384 --> 00:31:25,194
Hey. Man, how did he take a Huey Lewis groove and

920
00:31:25,244 --> 00:31:25,944
make it hip?

921
00:31:28,184 --> 00:31:29,944
Shout out to Huey Lewis and the News.

922
00:31:31,904 --> 00:31:32,904
Specifically the news.

923
00:31:33,564 --> 00:31:35,924
Where is my love now?

924
00:31:35,984 --> 00:31:37,484
Yeah. When's the sports podcast, Pete?

925
00:31:37,734 --> 00:31:39,244
Man, this is totally...

926
00:31:41,644 --> 00:31:44,204
I forgot how "Up and Down" this record is Prince's

927
00:31:44,524 --> 00:31:46,904
most pop record.

928
00:31:48,044 --> 00:31:49,204
Where is my love now?

929
00:31:50,864 --> 00:31:52,964
Like the grooves and the band sound, right?

930
00:31:53,784 --> 00:31:56,164
The original version of this song was 12 minutes long.

931
00:31:56,764 --> 00:31:57,504
Damn.

932
00:32:02,204 --> 00:32:05,664
Till I find the right response. Ca-do-do-do-do.

933
00:32:05,724 --> 00:32:08,223
Till I find the right response.

934
00:32:09,404 --> 00:32:12,804
Ca-do-do-do-do.

935
00:32:13,164 --> 00:32:16,464
This is another track with the full revolution recording.

936
00:32:16,504 --> 00:32:19,864
And he still messes with that sus back and forth, dominant seventh.

937
00:32:29,564 --> 00:32:29,784
Nope.

938
00:32:35,424 --> 00:32:37,604
Such a killing harmonic move that happens there in this.

939
00:32:37,894 --> 00:32:37,894
Yeah.

940
00:32:37,904 --> 00:32:40,024
This little interlude, this guitar interlude.

941
00:32:45,364 --> 00:32:46,084
Woo.

942
00:32:51,244 --> 00:32:54,464
Man. I mean, we've talked about what a great songwriter he is, what a great

943
00:32:54,524 --> 00:32:55,024
producer he is-

944
00:32:55,054 --> 00:32:55,054
Yeah

945
00:32:55,054 --> 00:32:57,884
... what a great vocalist he is. Incredible guitarist.

946
00:32:57,964 --> 00:32:58,084
Oh my God.

947
00:32:58,124 --> 00:33:02,044
Incredible guitarist. Just one of my favorite rock

948
00:33:02,164 --> 00:33:02,704
guitarists.

949
00:33:02,764 --> 00:33:02,814
I know.

950
00:33:02,844 --> 00:33:03,603
Because that's what he does, man.

951
00:33:03,624 --> 00:33:03,994
Yeah.

952
00:33:03,994 --> 00:33:05,304
He throws on that distortion pedal.

953
00:33:05,824 --> 00:33:09,484
He rips these shredding solos. We listen to that, "Let's Go

954
00:33:09,524 --> 00:33:13,244
Crazy" at the front. There's a great video of, and Kaleb,

955
00:33:13,304 --> 00:33:16,353
as you're editing this, maybe link to this in the show notes, but

956
00:33:17,664 --> 00:33:21,484
it was the SNL 40th anniversary afterparty, right after

957
00:33:21,564 --> 00:33:23,744
the SNL 40th anniversary show.

958
00:33:24,584 --> 00:33:25,704
And this would've been

959
00:33:27,504 --> 00:33:27,724
pretty

960
00:33:29,044 --> 00:33:31,084
close to the point where he was

961
00:33:32,404 --> 00:33:33,184
about to pass away.

962
00:33:33,324 --> 00:33:33,464
Yeah.

963
00:33:33,524 --> 00:33:37,504
So not too long before he died. But he played that afterparty, or he sat in on

964
00:33:37,544 --> 00:33:40,744
that afterparty, and they do a version of "Let's Go Crazy" that's just like-

965
00:33:40,824 --> 00:33:40,904
Oh

966
00:33:41,464 --> 00:33:41,464
...

967
00:33:45,184 --> 00:33:45,324
Right.

968
00:33:45,334 --> 00:33:46,394
It's so happening.

969
00:33:46,564 --> 00:33:46,964
Yeah.

970
00:33:47,044 --> 00:33:50,024
And he just crushes this guitar solo.

971
00:33:50,244 --> 00:33:53,084
And of course, the famous Super Bowl halftime where he plays "Purple Rain."

972
00:33:53,264 --> 00:33:53,364
Yeah.

973
00:33:53,484 --> 00:33:54,504
And it starts to rain-

974
00:33:54,784 --> 00:33:54,904
Yeah

975
00:33:54,984 --> 00:33:55,684
... in the stadium.

976
00:33:56,444 --> 00:33:56,584
Purple.

977
00:33:56,724 --> 00:33:59,844
Well, from the lights. But then he's just shredding one of the greatest solos.

978
00:33:59,884 --> 00:33:59,914
Yeah.

979
00:33:59,944 --> 00:34:02,424
There's all these great moments on YouTube, him sitting in at

980
00:34:03,564 --> 00:34:05,534
George Harrison's memorial concert-

981
00:34:05,564 --> 00:34:05,624
Mm

982
00:34:05,644 --> 00:34:08,765
... and just grabbing the guitar and coming in and just schooling everybody.

983
00:34:08,824 --> 00:34:08,984
Yeah.

984
00:34:09,225 --> 00:34:09,644
Incredible.

985
00:34:10,185 --> 00:34:14,124
No, I totally agree. It's not really underrated, because obviously everybody knows

986
00:34:14,134 --> 00:34:17,874
he's a great guitarist, but I think this is the Eddie Van Halen rock

987
00:34:17,964 --> 00:34:19,424
guitar era, right?

988
00:34:19,624 --> 00:34:20,104
Yeah.

989
00:34:20,564 --> 00:34:21,504
Sammy Hagar.

990
00:34:22,944 --> 00:34:24,564
Did Sammy Hagar play guitar?

991
00:34:24,604 --> 00:34:25,304
No, he was the vocalist.

992
00:34:26,144 --> 00:34:27,464
I know you're an expert.

993
00:34:27,475 --> 00:34:27,614
You know what I'm saying?

994
00:34:27,884 --> 00:34:30,185
And I know you know that. No, but yeah, you got like-

995
00:34:30,265 --> 00:34:31,364
This was the era of-

996
00:34:31,404 --> 00:34:34,904
Sure. You got Van Halen. You got guys like Steve Vai and Joe Satriani are doing

997
00:34:34,924 --> 00:34:35,304
these like-

998
00:34:35,513 --> 00:34:36,064
I don't know about them.

999
00:34:36,104 --> 00:34:36,475
Yeah, of course.

1000
00:34:36,475 --> 00:34:40,064
But yeah. But this is the thing, what I was going to say is Prince is very much a

1001
00:34:40,124 --> 00:34:43,044
rock guitarist, and he's a blues guitarist.

1002
00:34:44,064 --> 00:34:46,444
I mean, those are the influences, and then he's his own crazy thing.

1003
00:34:46,524 --> 00:34:46,665
Yeah.

1004
00:34:47,245 --> 00:34:51,225
And I mean, Jimi Hendrix is sort of the guitar personality that hovers-

1005
00:34:51,274 --> 00:34:51,324
100%

1006
00:34:51,334 --> 00:34:52,254
... heavy over that.

1007
00:34:52,344 --> 00:34:52,924
Over all of us.

1008
00:34:53,044 --> 00:34:55,944
But he's not really a jazz guitarist.

1009
00:34:56,064 --> 00:34:56,185
No.

1010
00:34:56,464 --> 00:35:00,064
He has jazz sensibilities, and he has a big interest in jazz.

1011
00:35:00,104 --> 00:35:03,024
And you hear that in some of his keyboard work and some of this stuff,

1012
00:35:04,944 --> 00:35:07,704
sort of how his voicings work. But his approach, and this is not a good or bad

1013
00:35:07,724 --> 00:35:11,604
thing, but I never hear, and I think that would kind of mess it up as far as that

1014
00:35:11,684 --> 00:35:12,724
influence being in there.

1015
00:35:12,784 --> 00:35:14,604
You mentioned Hendrix, and I think that's the sort of-

1016
00:35:14,704 --> 00:35:14,884
Yeah

1017
00:35:14,894 --> 00:35:16,464
... direct lineage you can hear in his playing.

1018
00:35:16,644 --> 00:35:16,713
Yeah.

1019
00:35:16,984 --> 00:35:20,384
Next up, so this is "Darling Nikki." Now, this is the track that Tipper

1020
00:35:20,424 --> 00:35:23,184
Gore heard her daughter listening to.

1021
00:35:23,764 --> 00:35:23,774
This is the actual one.

1022
00:35:23,804 --> 00:35:24,254
And-

1023
00:35:24,844 --> 00:35:25,344
Is that true?

1024
00:35:25,634 --> 00:35:29,524
Yeah. Tipper Gore, Vice President Al Gore's wife.

1025
00:35:29,744 --> 00:35:32,884
He was senator at the time, I believe, from the great state of Tennessee.

1026
00:35:32,944 --> 00:35:33,384
That's correct.

1027
00:35:33,424 --> 00:35:33,963
Wasn't he? Yeah.

1028
00:35:34,024 --> 00:35:37,814
Heard her daughter listening to "Darling Nikki," and she then looked up the lyrics,

1029
00:35:37,904 --> 00:35:41,564
and she was so shocked, she formed a group that created the parental

1030
00:35:41,604 --> 00:35:44,084
advisory labels that would appear on albums thereafter.

1031
00:35:44,144 --> 00:35:44,514
So this-

1032
00:35:44,584 --> 00:35:47,764
Also known as 1985 Karen, genesis of Karen.

1033
00:35:47,804 --> 00:35:51,524
Exactly. This track, "Darling Nikki," is the reason

1034
00:35:51,664 --> 00:35:55,064
why when you buy Dr. Dre's "The Chronic," it has that parental

1035
00:35:55,124 --> 00:35:55,704
advisory.

1036
00:35:55,764 --> 00:35:59,604
What's crazy about that, though, is there actually any vulgarities

1037
00:35:59,744 --> 00:36:00,104
on this?

1038
00:36:00,204 --> 00:36:00,744
Well, let's listen.

1039
00:36:00,954 --> 00:36:01,564
Well, no, I know the

1040
00:36:02,644 --> 00:36:03,454
lyrics, but-

1041
00:36:05,264 --> 00:36:09,204
Oh, man, this is such a... Oh. Wait, can we come out of "Computer Blue"

1042
00:36:09,264 --> 00:36:11,044
on it? This is one of the great LP trends.

1043
00:36:11,124 --> 00:36:12,274
I don't know if they're going to screw it up.

1044
00:36:12,274 --> 00:36:13,164
Oh, yeah, it doesn't work as well, but let's try it.

1045
00:36:13,284 --> 00:36:14,044
Man, this is such an-

1046
00:36:14,964 --> 00:36:18,124
And this groove, man, this crazy s**t in "Computer Blue,"

1047
00:36:18,884 --> 00:36:20,324
the way it segues is-

1048
00:36:23,396 --> 00:36:24,456
I love this segue.

1049
00:36:31,556 --> 00:36:31,996
Oh.

1050
00:36:34,516 --> 00:36:35,656
Yeah, it's a great transition.

1051
00:36:37,056 --> 00:36:40,136
Yeah. And that's a very Stevie kind of synth sound. Man, those...

1052
00:36:42,156 --> 00:36:44,376
Oh. Boop-clackoom.

1053
00:36:44,416 --> 00:36:44,676
This.

1054
00:36:46,066 --> 00:36:48,436
The way the drums hit in the reverb.

1055
00:36:48,656 --> 00:36:49,536
Yeah. It's great.

1056
00:36:49,776 --> 00:36:50,416
So compelling.

1057
00:36:55,256 --> 00:36:59,056
I knew a girl named Nikki, I guess you could say she

1058
00:36:59,136 --> 00:37:00,476
was a sex fiend.

1059
00:37:01,476 --> 00:37:05,456
I met her in a hotel lobby, masturbating with a

1060
00:37:05,536 --> 00:37:09,316
magazine. She said, "How'd you like to waste some

1061
00:37:09,376 --> 00:37:13,236
time?" And I could not resist when I saw little

1062
00:37:13,316 --> 00:37:14,736
Nikki grind.

1063
00:37:15,976 --> 00:37:17,676
There goes that blues minor.

1064
00:37:20,676 --> 00:37:21,696
Woo. Do, do, do,

1065
00:37:22,556 --> 00:37:23,416
do, do, do, do.

1066
00:37:26,256 --> 00:37:26,516
Oh.

1067
00:37:26,536 --> 00:37:27,195
That's so killer.

1068
00:37:27,256 --> 00:37:28,596
Man, that syncopation. Woo.

1069
00:37:30,456 --> 00:37:31,036
I'm going to back it up.

1070
00:37:31,396 --> 00:37:34,416
Yeah. Okay. And can we just talk about real quick,

1071
00:37:35,396 --> 00:37:37,746
so this is B major, and I

1072
00:37:38,436 --> 00:37:42,356
don't know if he actually goes to the B major seven, but B major is

1073
00:37:42,396 --> 00:37:45,936
such an optimistic... And this is such an interesting thing because of how the

1074
00:37:46,016 --> 00:37:49,896
lyrics sort of start to erode very quickly-

1075
00:37:49,956 --> 00:37:50,156
Yeah

1076
00:37:50,166 --> 00:37:53,436
... and get very weird. And then it's down, so there's two,

1077
00:37:55,336 --> 00:37:59,196
B major and G major, and then we're kind of hinting at the four to the

1078
00:37:59,296 --> 00:38:01,116
five, but not in a real heavy bluesy way.

1079
00:38:01,416 --> 00:38:04,336
But then when it's like, "Do, dun, dun, dun, dun."

1080
00:38:05,496 --> 00:38:07,676
And now it's getting nasty. You know what I mean?

1081
00:38:07,856 --> 00:38:11,556
It's almost theatrical the way he weaves the harmony with the lyrics.

1082
00:38:11,776 --> 00:38:13,856
Now, could you please explain the harmony and how the story works?

1083
00:38:15,456 --> 00:38:15,676
No.

1084
00:38:23,076 --> 00:38:24,616
Ah, wails so hard, man.

1085
00:38:24,796 --> 00:38:26,156
Castle and I just-

1086
00:38:26,416 --> 00:38:26,936
Second verse

1087
00:38:27,036 --> 00:38:30,656
... couldn't believe my eyes. She had so many

1088
00:38:30,736 --> 00:38:33,956
vices, everything that money could

1089
00:38:34,155 --> 00:38:34,956
buy.

1090
00:38:34,966 --> 00:38:34,966
Woo.

1091
00:38:34,996 --> 00:38:38,966
She said, "Sign your name on the dotted line." The lights

1092
00:38:39,016 --> 00:38:42,996
went out and Nikki started to grind.

1093
00:38:44,736 --> 00:38:45,586
This has a bit of Sign-

1094
00:38:45,586 --> 00:38:47,636
See that minor? It's not major anymore.

1095
00:38:47,736 --> 00:38:49,456
This has a bit of Sign o' the Times vibes.

1096
00:38:49,656 --> 00:38:50,116
Very.

1097
00:38:50,196 --> 00:38:50,616
You know what I mean?

1098
00:38:50,776 --> 00:38:51,356
Absolutely, and

1099
00:38:52,276 --> 00:38:52,776
the way he's-

1100
00:38:53,796 --> 00:38:55,126
The castle started spinning-

1101
00:38:55,136 --> 00:38:57,386
His vocal. Vocalising? Vocalising

1102
00:38:57,536 --> 00:38:57,856
... around in my brain.

1103
00:38:58,386 --> 00:38:58,725
Third verse.

1104
00:38:58,746 --> 00:39:02,596
I can't tell you what she did to me, but me body will never be

1105
00:39:02,636 --> 00:39:03,736
the same.

1106
00:39:03,816 --> 00:39:04,876
Same.

1107
00:39:05,036 --> 00:39:06,225
Oh, heaven

1108
00:39:07,096 --> 00:39:07,886
when you kick in the door.

1109
00:39:07,936 --> 00:39:09,216
Now he changed up the harmony.

1110
00:39:09,656 --> 00:39:11,396
I want you to show you no mercy.

1111
00:39:11,516 --> 00:39:11,716
Ah.

1112
00:39:12,026 --> 00:39:14,136
Just shout now, shout now, shout it out again.

1113
00:39:14,256 --> 00:39:15,156
Man, synth so good.

1114
00:39:15,176 --> 00:39:15,936
Goes into riff.

1115
00:39:17,116 --> 00:39:18,356
Killer Nikki.

1116
00:39:19,316 --> 00:39:19,796
Woo.

1117
00:39:19,806 --> 00:39:20,196
Oh.

1118
00:39:21,116 --> 00:39:24,986
Woke up

1119
00:39:25,036 --> 00:39:25,566
the next morning-

1120
00:39:25,596 --> 00:39:27,426
And now we're back to the "Da, da, bee"

1121
00:39:27,426 --> 00:39:28,496
... Nikki wasn't there.

1122
00:39:30,036 --> 00:39:33,736
I looked all over, all I found was a phone

1123
00:39:33,776 --> 00:39:35,246
number on the stairs.

1124
00:39:35,336 --> 00:39:35,496
Ah.

1125
00:39:35,856 --> 00:39:39,496
It said, "Thank you for a funky time.

1126
00:39:40,076 --> 00:39:43,096
Call me whenever you want to grind."

1127
00:39:45,476 --> 00:39:45,836
Yeah,

1128
00:39:47,836 --> 00:39:50,005
Killer Nikki.

1129
00:39:50,056 --> 00:39:52,036
It's such a light and dark,

1130
00:39:52,856 --> 00:39:53,056
right?

1131
00:39:53,416 --> 00:39:54,285
Man, so good.

1132
00:39:54,416 --> 00:39:58,316
It's the Saturday night and the Sunday morning. He's weaving all that in there.

1133
00:39:58,596 --> 00:40:01,016
Maybe his best vocal performance on the whole album, too.

1134
00:40:01,116 --> 00:40:01,916
Yeah. It's incredible.

1135
00:40:01,936 --> 00:40:02,746
Incredible. I love the way-

1136
00:40:02,746 --> 00:40:03,696
Good call, Sign o' the Times

1137
00:40:03,706 --> 00:40:07,536
... on the tracks where it's not the Revolution, the three that are on here, he

1138
00:40:07,616 --> 00:40:09,216
uses bass so sparingly.

1139
00:40:09,556 --> 00:40:09,656
Yeah.

1140
00:40:09,716 --> 00:40:13,056
In a way you don't, because he uses percussion so thickly.

1141
00:40:13,136 --> 00:40:13,376
Yes.

1142
00:40:13,636 --> 00:40:16,476
The percussion gets thick when Prince is producing it from the ground up.

1143
00:40:16,696 --> 00:40:17,976
This happens on Sign o' the Times as well.

1144
00:40:18,225 --> 00:40:18,316
Yeah.

1145
00:40:18,366 --> 00:40:22,316
And he often will sort of let the bass stroll a little bit, but he'll put it in

1146
00:40:22,336 --> 00:40:23,616
at this one moment-

1147
00:40:23,785 --> 00:40:25,166
Oh, and then it gives you that foundation

1148
00:40:25,196 --> 00:40:26,136
... where it just melts you.

1149
00:40:26,456 --> 00:40:28,666
Boong-a, doong-a, dang, goes da-ka, da-ka, dang, wang.

1150
00:40:28,696 --> 00:40:30,256
It happens again on this next track.

1151
00:40:30,356 --> 00:40:30,546
This,

1152
00:40:31,396 --> 00:40:32,736
I think, is going to be in competition.

1153
00:40:32,746 --> 00:40:35,216
Am I going to play the backwards message at the end? With some vulgar?

1154
00:40:35,336 --> 00:40:35,736
No, we don't know.

1155
00:40:36,176 --> 00:40:36,746
Shall we do it? Hold on.

1156
00:40:36,816 --> 00:40:37,556
I don't even remember where.

1157
00:40:39,376 --> 00:40:40,716
Wasn't there something in here that's like

1158
00:40:42,616 --> 00:40:43,436
something sinister?

1159
00:40:44,456 --> 00:40:45,356
Sinister Easter egg?

1160
00:40:45,656 --> 00:40:46,616
Ooh, yeah.

1161
00:40:48,016 --> 00:40:49,056
Sounds like a Space Odyssey.

1162
00:40:50,516 --> 00:40:54,496
Ooh, the kid was

1163
00:40:54,516 --> 00:40:55,176
sure dead.

1164
00:40:57,916 --> 00:40:59,436
Yeah, this was something played backward.

1165
00:40:59,956 --> 00:41:01,076
I think we tried to play the-

1166
00:41:04,296 --> 00:41:11,656
And

1167
00:41:11,676 --> 00:41:15,636
then all the monkeys touch the monolith in the Space Odyssey,

1168
00:41:15,776 --> 00:41:15,986
and then

1169
00:41:17,056 --> 00:41:17,126
we're in space.

1170
00:41:17,145 --> 00:41:20,376
I think I remember this being, this was not a single.

1171
00:41:20,396 --> 00:41:22,896
They wouldn't have done that, but I definitely remember them playing this on the

1172
00:41:22,916 --> 00:41:26,396
radio, but it was late at night. They had to play it after a certain time, or maybe

1173
00:41:26,436 --> 00:41:30,145
I'm confusing it. But I remember this sometimes where they would

1174
00:41:30,596 --> 00:41:34,096
normally be the end of the radio edit, but sometimes they would play it longer and

1175
00:41:34,336 --> 00:41:36,656
people would try to record it if they had the LP or whatever.

1176
00:41:36,696 --> 00:41:36,816
Yeah.

1177
00:41:36,976 --> 00:41:40,216
But then we went and listened, but yeah, I just think it's weird because I don't

1178
00:41:40,236 --> 00:41:42,156
think there's any vulgarity unless it's in that.

1179
00:41:42,956 --> 00:41:44,856
He says masturbate and he says grind.

1180
00:41:44,936 --> 00:41:45,656
Can't talk about that.

1181
00:41:45,736 --> 00:41:49,696
Well, I don't know. Tipper, were you ahead of your time or behind your time?

1182
00:41:50,556 --> 00:41:50,946
The next track-

1183
00:41:50,996 --> 00:41:54,856
Trad wife in '85 or loving wife of our future

1184
00:41:56,236 --> 00:41:59,716
inventor of the internet. Ironic. Now he really opened the floodgates.

1185
00:41:59,776 --> 00:42:00,116
There you go.

1186
00:42:00,216 --> 00:42:00,876
The next number one-

1187
00:42:00,906 --> 00:42:01,516
Are you nervous, buddy?

1188
00:42:01,636 --> 00:42:05,156
The next number one single is the next track, and we were talking about

1189
00:42:06,076 --> 00:42:07,906
the sparse bass, and this definitely has that same thing.

1190
00:42:07,916 --> 00:42:09,196
Does it have any bass?

1191
00:42:09,206 --> 00:42:10,376
I don't know. I don't think so.

1192
00:42:10,656 --> 00:42:10,876
We're going to listen.

1193
00:42:11,296 --> 00:42:13,756
And this is probably going to be a competition for desert island track, I think,

1194
00:42:13,776 --> 00:42:15,236
for both of us. This is "When Doves Cry."

1195
00:42:19,276 --> 00:42:22,056
Greatest guitar riff opening short? Yes.

1196
00:42:33,166 --> 00:42:33,886
That's so killing.

1197
00:42:35,166 --> 00:42:35,266
Oh,

1198
00:42:37,546 --> 00:42:37,986
that rhythm.

1199
00:42:41,286 --> 00:42:42,366
That syncopation.

1200
00:42:44,986 --> 00:42:47,986
Man, so important. Propels this whole... Every time it comes back in.

1201
00:42:49,286 --> 00:42:51,466
Dig, if you will, the picture.

1202
00:42:52,906 --> 00:42:55,306
Of you and I engaged in a kiss.

1203
00:42:55,336 --> 00:42:56,376
There's no tonality-

1204
00:42:57,086 --> 00:42:57,116
The sweat of your love on the tip of my tongue

1205
00:42:57,116 --> 00:42:58,346
... outside of what he's doing with the melody.

1206
00:42:58,376 --> 00:43:00,026
Well, it's implied. There's some implication.

1207
00:43:00,066 --> 00:43:01,246
Yeah, but nothing being played.

1208
00:43:01,426 --> 00:43:02,406
Dream of my darling.

1209
00:43:02,446 --> 00:43:03,296
There's nothing being played.

1210
00:43:03,296 --> 00:43:07,026
And the picture of him. Dreaming of Chanteclair.

1211
00:43:08,046 --> 00:43:09,096
An ocean of bodies in bloom.

1212
00:43:09,155 --> 00:43:11,426
So when those triads come back in...

1213
00:43:12,115 --> 00:43:15,786
Animals strike curious poses.

1214
00:43:16,066 --> 00:43:19,596
They feel the heat, the heat between me and you.

1215
00:43:19,846 --> 00:43:20,066
Yeah.

1216
00:43:20,146 --> 00:43:22,106
How can you just leave me standing.

1217
00:43:23,266 --> 00:43:27,156
Alone in a world that's so cold? So cold.

1218
00:43:27,246 --> 00:43:27,676
Maybe I'm just an accident waiting to happen.

1219
00:43:27,676 --> 00:43:29,346
The implication is that A minor.

1220
00:43:30,326 --> 00:43:30,896
Yeah, maybe.

1221
00:43:31,026 --> 00:43:33,826
Maybe I'm just like my father.

1222
00:43:33,856 --> 00:43:33,856
For sure.

1223
00:43:33,876 --> 00:43:34,146
But this-

1224
00:43:34,176 --> 00:43:35,046
That's the implication

1225
00:43:35,126 --> 00:43:37,405
Maybe you're just like my mother.

1226
00:43:38,566 --> 00:43:42,186
She's never satisfied. She's never satisfied.

1227
00:43:42,386 --> 00:43:42,646
Oh.

1228
00:43:42,766 --> 00:43:45,306
Why do we scream at each other?

1229
00:43:46,166 --> 00:43:49,426
This is what it sounds like when doves

1230
00:43:49,486 --> 00:43:50,406
cry.

1231
00:43:56,766 --> 00:43:57,086
Ah.

1232
00:44:05,136 --> 00:44:05,756
Touch me.

1233
00:44:05,756 --> 00:44:06,086
Triads.

1234
00:44:06,166 --> 00:44:09,066
In my stomach. Feel our shackles inside.

1235
00:44:09,146 --> 00:44:10,266
Now we're getting a little bit of

1236
00:44:11,666 --> 00:44:14,426
arpeggiation in the middle, but still no bassline. There's no...

1237
00:44:15,626 --> 00:44:16,916
No, I don't think there is any bass in this track.

1238
00:44:16,926 --> 00:44:18,566
But you start to hear it. You think it's there.

1239
00:44:18,596 --> 00:44:19,206
Yeah. It's implied.

1240
00:44:21,186 --> 00:44:22,926
How can you just leave me standing.

1241
00:44:24,006 --> 00:44:26,346
Alone in a world so cold.

1242
00:44:26,446 --> 00:44:28,466
Because I hear wedding bands play this, and they're like

1243
00:44:30,656 --> 00:44:30,656
.

1244
00:44:30,726 --> 00:44:30,796
Yeah.

1245
00:44:30,846 --> 00:44:32,286
I'm like, "Really?" I don't think it's that, yeah.

1246
00:44:32,906 --> 00:44:35,446
Maybe you're just like my father. A two-bolt.

1247
00:44:35,586 --> 00:44:37,986
Maybe you're just like my mother.

1248
00:44:38,166 --> 00:44:38,446
Woo.

1249
00:44:39,286 --> 00:44:42,906
She's never satisfied. She's never satisfied.

1250
00:44:43,146 --> 00:44:45,246
Why do we scream at each other?

1251
00:44:45,406 --> 00:44:48,446
This comes at a pretty emotional height of the film as well.

1252
00:44:48,666 --> 00:44:48,906
Yeah.

1253
00:44:49,126 --> 00:44:50,926
When doves cry.

1254
00:44:59,246 --> 00:45:02,086
That rhythm.

1255
00:45:04,306 --> 00:45:05,896
So important.

1256
00:45:05,966 --> 00:45:08,466
How can you just leave me standing.

1257
00:45:09,526 --> 00:45:11,635
Alone in a world that's so cold.

1258
00:45:11,666 --> 00:45:14,456
And he's just going to keep building on this and keep adding layer after layer.

1259
00:45:14,466 --> 00:45:17,156
And this is all Prince produced, programmed, everything, playing, right?

1260
00:45:17,206 --> 00:45:17,866
This is a Prince-

1261
00:45:17,946 --> 00:45:18,026
Yeah

1262
00:45:18,036 --> 00:45:18,986
... produced one, yeah.

1263
00:45:19,026 --> 00:45:22,146
We're going to come back to it, and actually, this is not going to be my Desert

1264
00:45:22,186 --> 00:45:23,336
Island Disc, this is going to be my Apex moment-

1265
00:45:23,506 --> 00:45:23,606
Yeah

1266
00:45:23,626 --> 00:45:24,116
... but we'll come back later on.

1267
00:45:24,146 --> 00:45:26,526
It's such a great track. It's an outstanding track.

1268
00:45:26,666 --> 00:45:27,686
It might not be number one-

1269
00:45:27,716 --> 00:45:27,736
This was number one, wasn't it?

1270
00:45:27,736 --> 00:45:29,766
... either, but it's got to be. Yeah, it was a number one hit.

1271
00:45:30,006 --> 00:45:30,105
Yeah.

1272
00:45:30,366 --> 00:45:31,186
It's got to be a number-

1273
00:45:31,466 --> 00:45:32,186
Was this the only number one?

1274
00:45:32,326 --> 00:45:33,976
No, the "Let's Go Crazy" was also-

1275
00:45:34,066 --> 00:45:34,116
Oh, let's go crazy

1276
00:45:34,116 --> 00:45:34,666
... a number one.

1277
00:45:34,986 --> 00:45:37,256
And "Purple Rain" was number two. It never went to number... Oh.

1278
00:45:37,366 --> 00:45:37,816
I know. It's Prince.

1279
00:45:37,816 --> 00:45:38,836
But that's because of those other records.

1280
00:45:38,866 --> 00:45:40,996
It probably got caught up in Sade or Madonna or something.

1281
00:45:41,026 --> 00:45:44,186
Well, our next track, "I Would Die 4 U," broke the top 10.

1282
00:45:44,266 --> 00:45:46,516
It reached number eight on the Billboard Hot 100.

1283
00:45:46,666 --> 00:45:49,776
And this is another

1284
00:45:50,366 --> 00:45:54,286
track that uses a pedal, but in a really interesting

1285
00:45:54,306 --> 00:45:57,826
way. So we talked about how "Let's Go Crazy" and "Take Me With U" and a little bit

1286
00:45:57,846 --> 00:46:00,446
of "When Doves Cry," there's an implied pedal that's happening.

1287
00:46:00,466 --> 00:46:00,546
Yeah.

1288
00:46:01,496 --> 00:46:04,026
"I Would Die 4 U" does a reverse pedal.

1289
00:46:04,866 --> 00:46:07,536
So the bass on this, there is bass on this,

1290
00:46:08,426 --> 00:46:12,295
and it moves around quite a bit, but Prince's melody stays

1291
00:46:12,346 --> 00:46:15,886
on one note, especially in the verse, and it's really, really effective.

1292
00:46:15,926 --> 00:46:19,606
It's like the one tone stays the same, but the thing moves around.

1293
00:46:20,146 --> 00:46:22,446
It's flipped from those other two songs. Check it out.

1294
00:46:23,436 --> 00:46:23,436
Mm.

1295
00:46:23,606 --> 00:46:26,526
Woo. Hang on. Can we just hear the beginning again? I love a...

1296
00:46:27,046 --> 00:46:27,266
Man,

1297
00:46:28,306 --> 00:46:28,706
play it.

1298
00:46:29,306 --> 00:46:29,566
Mm.

1299
00:46:30,126 --> 00:46:33,026
Oh, he didn't need it, but we love it. Fire.

1300
00:46:35,246 --> 00:46:36,886
Can we get details like that back in music?

1301
00:46:37,366 --> 00:46:38,986
Ah. They're there, Peter. They're there.

1302
00:46:41,646 --> 00:46:43,026
Okay, so here's the-

1303
00:46:44,186 --> 00:46:45,806
I'm not your woman.

1304
00:46:48,026 --> 00:46:50,526
I deserve better. I won't suffer, let you never me stand.

1305
00:46:50,646 --> 00:46:52,066
That pitch stays the same.

1306
00:46:52,086 --> 00:46:52,246
Yeah.

1307
00:46:52,326 --> 00:46:55,066
The bass moves. So it's like the melody is the pedal.

1308
00:46:55,076 --> 00:46:56,066
Yeah, I got you. Reverse pedal.

1309
00:46:56,766 --> 00:46:57,426
I won't give you bite by bite.

1310
00:46:57,486 --> 00:46:59,726
And it gives it a saucy vibe.

1311
00:47:00,726 --> 00:47:01,946
I won't die for you.

1312
00:47:04,706 --> 00:47:05,846
Darling, if you want me to. You.

1313
00:47:05,926 --> 00:47:07,946
And that's, oh, man, he loves the four to the one.

1314
00:47:10,206 --> 00:47:13,716
I won't die for you. I'm not your lover.

1315
00:47:14,326 --> 00:47:15,036
I'm only your friend.

1316
00:47:15,036 --> 00:47:15,626
So this track-

1317
00:47:15,706 --> 00:47:16,886
Little move

1318
00:47:16,926 --> 00:47:17,326
... this track-

1319
00:47:17,386 --> 00:47:17,706
Mini move

1320
00:47:17,806 --> 00:47:20,806
... this is the start of the last three songs on the album.

1321
00:47:20,986 --> 00:47:21,236
Yeah. Strong ending.

1322
00:47:21,266 --> 00:47:25,166
The last three songs were initially recorded at a live concert, a benefit concert

1323
00:47:25,206 --> 00:47:27,426
in Minneapolis, with a remote rig,

1324
00:47:28,326 --> 00:47:29,226
and then were-

1325
00:47:31,046 --> 00:47:32,566
... overdubbed in LA later.

1326
00:47:33,236 --> 00:47:33,236
Yeah.

1327
00:47:33,266 --> 00:47:36,616
But these last two tracks, including "Purple Rain," were all recorded live with the

1328
00:47:36,626 --> 00:47:36,826
band.

1329
00:47:37,226 --> 00:47:39,166
Right. I think "Purple Rain" is the live version, isn't it?

1330
00:47:39,366 --> 00:47:39,926
They're all live.

1331
00:47:39,986 --> 00:47:40,106
Yeah.

1332
00:47:40,186 --> 00:47:40,646
This is live.

1333
00:47:40,676 --> 00:47:40,966
Oh, right.

1334
00:47:41,786 --> 00:47:42,516
With overdubs happening.

1335
00:47:42,516 --> 00:47:42,986
Oh, it was over tracked.

1336
00:47:43,026 --> 00:47:43,146
Yeah.

1337
00:47:43,176 --> 00:47:43,366
Right.

1338
00:47:46,366 --> 00:47:48,406
Yeah, First Avenue. I got to tell you my First Avenue story.

1339
00:47:55,086 --> 00:47:58,746
You're just the sugar on my tongue. Be a fire when you're gone.

1340
00:47:58,846 --> 00:48:01,065
Make you happy when you're sad. Make you cry when you are mad.

1341
00:48:01,126 --> 00:48:02,936
Oh, man, the lyrics on this one-

1342
00:48:02,966 --> 00:48:03,646
His background

1343
00:48:03,686 --> 00:48:04,326
... are so great.

1344
00:48:04,366 --> 00:48:07,466
I'm the conscience I am love. All that I, I really need.

1345
00:48:07,706 --> 00:48:08,506
Is to know that

1346
00:48:09,306 --> 00:48:10,416
you will be. Never alone.

1347
00:48:10,486 --> 00:48:11,306
Man, he could rip off-

1348
00:48:11,336 --> 00:48:11,745
I won't die for you

1349
00:48:12,226 --> 00:48:13,506
... almost like a snare drum.

1350
00:48:14,726 --> 00:48:18,166
But for songwriters out there, notice that, again, going back to the pedal thing,

1351
00:48:18,726 --> 00:48:18,986
one

1352
00:48:19,986 --> 00:48:22,626
element of a lot of these songs remains static.

1353
00:48:22,726 --> 00:48:23,126
Yes.

1354
00:48:23,206 --> 00:48:24,206
Whether it's the bass-

1355
00:48:24,346 --> 00:48:24,466
Yeah

1356
00:48:24,486 --> 00:48:26,326
... or it's the drums, or it's the vocals.

1357
00:48:26,406 --> 00:48:26,495
Yeah.

1358
00:48:26,495 --> 00:48:27,966
He's just going to drill one thing-

1359
00:48:28,306 --> 00:48:28,426
Right

1360
00:48:28,466 --> 00:48:30,376
... and then move everything around it. It's really fascinating.

1361
00:48:30,386 --> 00:48:33,206
And then he keeps the interest going lyrically and rhythmically.

1362
00:48:33,246 --> 00:48:33,586
Yeah, for sure.

1363
00:48:33,606 --> 00:48:34,906
Melodically, it's stationary.

1364
00:48:34,936 --> 00:48:35,995
Well, and texturally. The production-

1365
00:48:36,016 --> 00:48:36,546
Yeah, the texture

1366
00:48:36,646 --> 00:48:36,656
... is so unique.

1367
00:48:36,686 --> 00:48:37,836
Yeah. But even with just if

1368
00:48:40,386 --> 00:48:40,746
and like

1369
00:48:41,646 --> 00:48:42,826
That's a little moo in there on that.

1370
00:48:50,066 --> 00:48:51,926
And then the syncopation keeps the groove

1371
00:48:52,886 --> 00:48:55,186
so front forward.

1372
00:48:55,246 --> 00:48:56,316
Unbelievable song.

1373
00:48:56,366 --> 00:48:56,526
Yeah.

1374
00:48:56,786 --> 00:48:57,545
Unbelievable song.

1375
00:48:58,406 --> 00:49:00,546
"Baby I'm a Star." Mixed feelings about this one.

1376
00:49:00,806 --> 00:49:02,136
So this one also contains-

1377
00:49:02,826 --> 00:49:03,566
How are you feeling about this one?

1378
00:49:03,766 --> 00:49:04,266
I love this one.

1379
00:49:04,336 --> 00:49:04,336
Okay.

1380
00:49:04,346 --> 00:49:07,666
This one has the strings on it as well, and also some pedal work.

1381
00:49:07,846 --> 00:49:08,166
Yeah.

1382
00:49:10,986 --> 00:49:13,216
That same thing with the bass being static and-

1383
00:49:13,316 --> 00:49:13,346
Yeah

1384
00:49:14,506 --> 00:49:16,266
... as a pedal, and the chords moving over it.

1385
00:49:21,586 --> 00:49:23,066
One, two, three, go.

1386
00:49:32,196 --> 00:49:35,126
I can smell the sticky beer floor of that club.

1387
00:49:35,296 --> 00:49:36,005
Yeah. First Avenue.

1388
00:49:44,746 --> 00:49:48,586
Bass is, "Dom, dom, dom, dom, dom, dom, bang,

1389
00:49:48,706 --> 00:49:49,026
dom."

1390
00:49:54,446 --> 00:49:56,466
And just moving those triads over that bass.

1391
00:49:56,666 --> 00:49:56,806
Yeah.

1392
00:49:57,046 --> 00:49:57,936
Look me over.

1393
00:49:58,836 --> 00:50:00,866
Tell me do you like what you see?

1394
00:50:02,366 --> 00:50:05,786
Hey, I ain't got no money. But honey, I'm

1395
00:50:05,826 --> 00:50:07,886
rich on personality.

1396
00:50:08,426 --> 00:50:08,796
So true.

1397
00:50:08,796 --> 00:50:09,396
Rich on personality.

1398
00:50:09,426 --> 00:50:09,926
So true.

1399
00:50:10,876 --> 00:50:11,786
Check it all out.

1400
00:50:12,786 --> 00:50:14,806
Baby, I know what it's all about.

1401
00:50:16,066 --> 00:50:18,766
Before tonight is through, you will see my point of view.

1402
00:50:18,826 --> 00:50:19,966
The lyrics are killing on this.

1403
00:50:20,906 --> 00:50:20,976
Even if I had to be.

1404
00:50:20,976 --> 00:50:24,486
He's killing it. To me, it's just, it's always been the groove that's it.

1405
00:50:25,966 --> 00:50:27,566
To me, this is not the grooviest

1406
00:50:28,546 --> 00:50:30,286
on this album. It's something-

1407
00:50:30,346 --> 00:50:30,846
Are you serious?

1408
00:50:30,926 --> 00:50:32,666
Yeah. It's fine, but...

1409
00:50:33,506 --> 00:50:34,245
Hard to disagree.

1410
00:50:34,966 --> 00:50:36,346
If everything's great, then nothing's great.

1411
00:50:36,606 --> 00:50:37,086
This is great.

1412
00:50:37,226 --> 00:50:39,966
Okay. That's what I'm saying. What's not great on this album?

1413
00:50:40,946 --> 00:50:41,686
We'll get to that in Quibble Bit.

1414
00:50:41,766 --> 00:50:42,066
Okay.

1415
00:50:43,026 --> 00:50:44,106
This is my Quibble Bit, actually.

1416
00:50:44,166 --> 00:50:45,616
Tell me do you like what you see?

1417
00:50:46,206 --> 00:50:47,276
Man, his vocals on here.

1418
00:50:47,606 --> 00:50:50,525
If so, turn you on. Just say where I'm going.

1419
00:50:50,626 --> 00:50:51,456
The problem is,

1420
00:50:52,506 --> 00:50:56,496
on tracks, I feel like tracks that we don't like as much, especially

1421
00:50:56,586 --> 00:50:58,526
going back, because of the way I learn. Look at him. He loves it.

1422
00:50:59,246 --> 00:50:59,416
I just-

1423
00:50:59,666 --> 00:51:00,106
I'm in the zone, bro

1424
00:51:00,366 --> 00:51:02,286
... I just poo-poohed on his poo-poo platter.

1425
00:51:04,126 --> 00:51:07,266
We don't listen to them as much because we skip them over, so we don't know them as

1426
00:51:07,326 --> 00:51:07,376
well.

1427
00:51:07,376 --> 00:51:07,686
We don't, yeah.

1428
00:51:07,746 --> 00:51:09,746
Whenever this would start, I'd be like, "Eh, skip."

1429
00:51:10,526 --> 00:51:12,046
You need to go back to cassette tape, where you-

1430
00:51:12,306 --> 00:51:12,656
It's fine.

1431
00:51:12,656 --> 00:51:13,336
It's pretty hard to skip. Yeah.

1432
00:51:13,336 --> 00:51:16,326
You're stuck. The A track. You can only skip to the same place on the next tune.

1433
00:51:16,386 --> 00:51:19,846
This never really goes anywhere, too.

1434
00:51:20,666 --> 00:51:22,326
Time is the time to say.

1435
00:51:25,886 --> 00:51:27,595
If I say nothing comes to me.

1436
00:51:27,706 --> 00:51:30,686
It feels like a Time track, actually.

1437
00:51:30,706 --> 00:51:32,586
It feels like a Morris Day and the Time track a little bit.

1438
00:51:32,646 --> 00:51:32,796
Oh, interesting. Yeah.

1439
00:51:32,796 --> 00:51:33,526
It has that flavor.

1440
00:51:34,106 --> 00:51:37,456
Well, speaking of the Time. Okay, so First Avenue, these were recorded at First

1441
00:51:37,506 --> 00:51:39,246
Avenue. I actually did a jazz gig there.

1442
00:51:39,386 --> 00:51:39,726
Oh, hello.

1443
00:51:39,846 --> 00:51:43,266
And I feel like this was so much later than this, but thinking back now that I'm

1444
00:51:43,426 --> 00:51:46,326
old AF, it wasn't that long after. This would've been

1445
00:51:46,366 --> 00:51:48,026
1995

1446
00:51:48,866 --> 00:51:52,266
with the Joshua Redman Quartet. We did a little tour of rock venues.

1447
00:51:52,676 --> 00:51:56,646
That didn't work out great, playing acoustic jazz. Whoa, he's jumping right in.

1448
00:51:56,666 --> 00:51:56,676
Pardon me.

1449
00:51:56,726 --> 00:51:57,806
No, that's First Avenue.

1450
00:51:57,815 --> 00:51:58,006
Excuse me. Go ahead.

1451
00:51:58,186 --> 00:52:00,746
But I remember being like, "Damn, this is First Avenue from the movie.

1452
00:52:00,866 --> 00:52:04,846
This is the place." And I also remember being like, "Wow,

1453
00:52:04,926 --> 00:52:08,556
the dressing rooms at rock clubs aren't quite as nice as concert halls and

1454
00:52:08,646 --> 00:52:12,566
college gigs." But it's such a historic venue, such a

1455
00:52:12,626 --> 00:52:15,026
cool place. I don't know what's happening with it now, but First Avenue,

1456
00:52:15,126 --> 00:52:16,086
Minneapolis, Minnesota.

1457
00:52:16,486 --> 00:52:17,506
I love Minneapolis, man.

1458
00:52:17,556 --> 00:52:17,556
Yeah.

1459
00:52:17,586 --> 00:52:19,146
Shout out Minneapolis, Minnesota.

1460
00:52:19,466 --> 00:52:19,506
Yeah.

1461
00:52:19,516 --> 00:52:20,366
Incredible stuff. Okay.

1462
00:52:21,466 --> 00:52:21,976
There's just one more track here.

1463
00:52:21,986 --> 00:52:22,786
That's where we're going, though, right?

1464
00:52:23,846 --> 00:52:23,986
What?

1465
00:52:24,286 --> 00:52:26,126
"Purple Rain." This is where we're going.

1466
00:52:26,286 --> 00:52:26,755
Yeah. Okay.

1467
00:52:26,755 --> 00:52:27,296
Yeah. There's no world without you.

1468
00:52:27,306 --> 00:52:30,926
One of the most, I think this is probably, of all these songs, even though this

1469
00:52:30,966 --> 00:52:33,556
only reached number two, and there was two number one hits, this is the one that

1470
00:52:33,766 --> 00:52:34,565
people remember.

1471
00:52:34,706 --> 00:52:34,826
Yeah.

1472
00:52:35,306 --> 00:52:36,445
This has become the anthem.

1473
00:52:36,906 --> 00:52:37,026
Yeah.

1474
00:52:37,266 --> 00:52:37,786
For good reason.

1475
00:52:37,886 --> 00:52:38,306
Title track.

1476
00:52:39,926 --> 00:52:40,156
Another great guitar.

1477
00:52:40,186 --> 00:52:40,726
It's epic.

1478
00:52:41,286 --> 00:52:41,676
Yeah. It is epic.

1479
00:52:41,676 --> 00:52:42,526
It's eight minutes long.

1480
00:52:42,826 --> 00:52:42,836
Yeah.

1481
00:52:42,866 --> 00:52:43,626
Eight and a half minutes long.

1482
00:52:43,806 --> 00:52:44,006
Yeah.

1483
00:52:49,506 --> 00:52:53,266
Is there anybody more of a get your lighter in the air moment than this?

1484
00:52:53,306 --> 00:52:53,806
That's perfect.

1485
00:52:57,426 --> 00:52:59,565
I never meant to cause you any sorrow.

1486
00:53:00,726 --> 00:53:02,166
Sorrow.

1487
00:53:05,486 --> 00:53:07,726
I never meant to cause you any pain.

1488
00:53:07,866 --> 00:53:09,666
What does that snare sound scream to you?

1489
00:53:13,406 --> 00:53:13,965
1984.

1490
00:53:14,016 --> 00:53:16,086
1984. Yeah. Nailed it.

1491
00:53:19,586 --> 00:53:22,806
I only wanted to see you

1492
00:53:22,866 --> 00:53:26,506
laughing in the purple rain.

1493
00:53:27,146 --> 00:53:30,786
Purple rain, purple rain.

1494
00:53:31,766 --> 00:53:32,366
Damn.

1495
00:53:35,486 --> 00:53:38,866
Purple rain, purple rain.

1496
00:53:39,306 --> 00:53:40,006
So this,

1497
00:53:42,586 --> 00:53:45,026
definitely the most gospel on this record, influences.

1498
00:53:45,526 --> 00:53:48,646
Some other Prince stuff, it was a lot more gospel influences apparent.

1499
00:53:48,746 --> 00:53:50,696
This one, very much in the harmony and his delivery.

1500
00:53:51,026 --> 00:53:52,866
Of course, where he's going to go on future verses.

1501
00:53:55,346 --> 00:53:58,486
I only wanted to see you

1502
00:53:58,586 --> 00:54:02,126
bathing in the purple rain.

1503
00:54:02,536 --> 00:54:06,006
I never wanted to be your weekend lover.

1504
00:54:06,566 --> 00:54:07,186
Oh, no.

1505
00:54:07,786 --> 00:54:08,546
Don't want to do that.

1506
00:54:12,846 --> 00:54:13,546
The space.

1507
00:54:13,686 --> 00:54:13,716
Yeah.

1508
00:54:13,716 --> 00:54:15,206
The time that he leaves open.

1509
00:54:16,146 --> 00:54:19,936
I had quite a few rejections from the ladies during this period to dance to this

1510
00:54:19,966 --> 00:54:23,286
song. I had a couple of okay. That's what I learned, how to

1511
00:54:23,686 --> 00:54:24,026
fail.

1512
00:54:24,116 --> 00:54:27,286
All the boys lined up on one wall. All the girls lined up on the other wall.

1513
00:54:27,356 --> 00:54:27,866
That's right. Awkward.

1514
00:54:28,306 --> 00:54:29,896
And then you and a friend would-

1515
00:54:30,686 --> 00:54:30,866
Like

1516
00:54:30,906 --> 00:54:31,686
... take a shot?

1517
00:54:31,766 --> 00:54:32,706
You know

1518
00:54:35,126 --> 00:54:36,106
what they say is like...

1519
00:54:37,416 --> 00:54:39,486
Purple rain, purple rain.

1520
00:54:40,206 --> 00:54:42,606
Gospel. What's that thing they say?

1521
00:54:43,854 --> 00:54:44,014
For me-

1522
00:54:44,054 --> 00:54:45,454
If you don't try, you're not going to succeed.

1523
00:54:45,494 --> 00:54:47,294
No, even if you try, you don't succeed, too.

1524
00:54:47,474 --> 00:54:47,643
Yeah.

1525
00:54:47,774 --> 00:54:48,714
That's what happened with it.

1526
00:54:48,794 --> 00:54:52,053
Ours was, at my dances, it was Boyz II Men, "End of the Road."

1527
00:54:52,244 --> 00:54:52,244
Ooh.

1528
00:54:52,244 --> 00:54:53,034
That was a big one.

1529
00:54:53,294 --> 00:54:53,304
Nice.

1530
00:54:53,334 --> 00:54:53,514
Yeah.

1531
00:54:53,854 --> 00:54:54,134
Nice.

1532
00:54:54,854 --> 00:54:57,624
Purple rain, purple

1533
00:54:57,774 --> 00:54:59,094
rain.

1534
00:55:02,154 --> 00:55:03,674
All the guitar stuff going on.

1535
00:55:03,684 --> 00:55:05,784
Only

1536
00:55:07,214 --> 00:55:09,554
want to see you. Only want to see you.

1537
00:55:09,634 --> 00:55:11,654
That almost becomes like its own sus4 of the...

1538
00:55:13,414 --> 00:55:17,394
Honey, I know, I know, I know times are changing.

1539
00:55:17,454 --> 00:55:19,714
Every break, man, damn. Church.

1540
00:55:27,634 --> 00:55:30,594
It's time we all reach out for something new.

1541
00:55:30,654 --> 00:55:31,694
That means you too.

1542
00:55:31,794 --> 00:55:33,014
This is Bobby Z on drums,

1543
00:55:34,274 --> 00:55:34,694
killing it.

1544
00:55:34,754 --> 00:55:34,894
Yeah.

1545
00:55:35,074 --> 00:55:35,154
Man.

1546
00:55:35,164 --> 00:55:35,394
Oh, yeah.

1547
00:55:36,014 --> 00:55:36,584
That hi-hat work.

1548
00:55:36,594 --> 00:55:38,894
The Revolution just crushes everything, man.

1549
00:55:39,814 --> 00:55:40,114
The hi-hat work.

1550
00:55:40,194 --> 00:55:40,204
Can't seem to make up my mind.

1551
00:55:40,204 --> 00:55:41,044
The Revolution was an incredible band.

1552
00:55:41,234 --> 00:55:42,174
It was a great band.

1553
00:55:42,234 --> 00:55:46,154
Man, Prince kept him, whenever he had a band, several iterate, he kept him

1554
00:55:46,174 --> 00:55:49,554
a good band. Especially drummers, he never had a half-ass drummer.

1555
00:55:49,604 --> 00:55:53,474
Yeah. Bobby Z just crushing. Brownmark crushing on the bass. Dr.

1556
00:55:53,694 --> 00:55:57,074
Fink on the keys, Lisa Coleman on the keys and the vocals.

1557
00:55:58,074 --> 00:55:59,294
Wendy Melvoin on the guitar.

1558
00:56:00,874 --> 00:56:01,984
Purple rain, purple rain.

1559
00:56:01,984 --> 00:56:02,674
And he's so

1560
00:56:03,514 --> 00:56:06,174
curious harmonically, but he knows how to hold back, too.

1561
00:56:06,414 --> 00:56:10,374
He's not giving everything like a stupid jazz person like me would do.

1562
00:56:11,944 --> 00:56:12,834
Which you're currently doing.

1563
00:56:15,734 --> 00:56:17,874
It goes into that three. Listenership just drops.

1564
00:56:18,934 --> 00:56:22,244
Only want to see you. Only want to see

1565
00:56:22,394 --> 00:56:25,114
you. Purple rain.

1566
00:56:30,714 --> 00:56:31,194
Pocket.

1567
00:56:34,674 --> 00:56:36,334
He should try some of that bebop language.

1568
00:56:36,694 --> 00:56:36,864
Huh?

1569
00:56:37,054 --> 00:56:39,474
He should try some of that bebop language. He might've done better.

1570
00:56:39,494 --> 00:56:40,454
Might've reached number one

1571
00:56:42,084 --> 00:56:43,074
instead of number two.

1572
00:56:46,194 --> 00:56:47,034
That's what the kids want.

1573
00:56:51,814 --> 00:56:53,414
No one's still watching.

1574
00:56:54,514 --> 00:56:56,274
Hit us up in the comments if you're still watching.

1575
00:56:56,334 --> 00:56:57,354
Say, "Bebop lives."

1576
00:56:59,514 --> 00:57:01,394
Not going to be able to pull this one out, Liz. Sorry.

1577
00:57:08,114 --> 00:57:09,634
All the Prince heads are coming for you, buddy.

1578
00:57:09,714 --> 00:57:11,794
That's all right. I'm inspired.

1579
00:57:13,034 --> 00:57:14,454
But, I mean, the chords.

1580
00:57:15,614 --> 00:57:16,834
So this is my thing.

1581
00:57:18,074 --> 00:57:18,394
Uh-huh?

1582
00:57:19,394 --> 00:57:19,834
Oh.

1583
00:57:21,574 --> 00:57:22,274
Like Prince.

1584
00:57:36,574 --> 00:57:38,034
Oh, Bill.

1585
00:57:39,154 --> 00:57:39,544
Purple rain, purple rain.

1586
00:57:39,544 --> 00:57:40,253
So good, dude.

1587
00:57:46,474 --> 00:57:50,234
And then he keeps it there, sus. You said at the beginning, he loving the sus.

1588
00:57:55,594 --> 00:57:56,814
This is great.

1589
00:57:56,894 --> 00:57:59,054
Purple rain, purple rain.

1590
00:57:59,554 --> 00:58:00,594
Man, he's stacking

1591
00:58:01,694 --> 00:58:02,214
levels.

1592
00:58:16,874 --> 00:58:19,754
I mean, what a feeling this must have been to see live in concert.

1593
00:58:19,834 --> 00:58:20,014
Yeah.

1594
00:58:20,024 --> 00:58:21,434
I mean, it just must have been amazing.

1595
00:58:23,114 --> 00:58:25,794
I really regret that I never got to see Prince live. Did you ever see Prince live?

1596
00:58:26,254 --> 00:58:26,394
No.

1597
00:58:26,854 --> 00:58:27,714
Yeah, me neither.

1598
00:58:28,154 --> 00:58:28,714
But he did...

1599
00:58:29,934 --> 00:58:30,904
I really, really regret that, actually.

1600
00:58:30,904 --> 00:58:32,694
He did come to a, I think I told that story already.

1601
00:58:32,754 --> 00:58:35,904
You can go back to the old episode. He came to a gig we were doing and

1602
00:58:35,954 --> 00:58:37,674
left. There's that.

1603
00:58:39,534 --> 00:58:40,494
Stayed and enjoyed, but.

1604
00:58:41,954 --> 00:58:42,994
Let's talk about some categories.

1605
00:58:43,414 --> 00:58:43,574
Okay.

1606
00:58:44,794 --> 00:58:46,754
What's your desert island track? You kind of hinted at it.

1607
00:58:46,834 --> 00:58:48,234
I'm going for "I Would Die 4 U."

1608
00:58:48,774 --> 00:58:50,294
Okay, that's a great one. I-

1609
00:58:51,554 --> 00:58:51,654
Oh.

1610
00:58:52,634 --> 00:58:54,413
One of the most optimistic sounds ever.

1611
00:58:54,474 --> 00:58:56,514
Every time it starts, I just freak out.

1612
00:58:58,194 --> 00:59:00,684
So I'm going with "The Beautiful Ones." I think that that's-

1613
00:59:00,994 --> 00:59:01,284
Great call

1614
00:59:01,314 --> 00:59:04,273
... I think it's such an interesting thing.

1615
00:59:04,334 --> 00:59:07,664
For apex moments, I was going to go with that transition, the beginning of "Darling

1616
00:59:07,734 --> 00:59:08,614
Nikki"-

1617
00:59:08,654 --> 00:59:09,054
Great call

1618
00:59:09,134 --> 00:59:12,594
... transition. But I want to do "When Doves Cry." If you go to about

1619
00:59:12,894 --> 00:59:16,174
4:40 or so, this is deep into the cut,

1620
00:59:17,274 --> 00:59:20,864
so a lot of people aren't catching this, but this is another side of Prince.

1621
00:59:21,574 --> 00:59:22,514
He's harmonizing.

1622
00:59:24,643 --> 00:59:25,124
I think it's here.

1623
00:59:26,554 --> 00:59:27,714
Yeah, right after this.

1624
00:59:30,234 --> 00:59:32,344
Like, you think he's kind of introduced everything already.

1625
00:59:33,654 --> 00:59:34,714
There's a breakdown here.

1626
00:59:39,114 --> 00:59:39,334
Yeah.

1627
00:59:43,934 --> 00:59:44,724
Great call, Pete.

1628
00:59:47,274 --> 00:59:48,114
Yeah, great moment.

1629
00:59:48,154 --> 00:59:49,014
So much emotion.

1630
00:59:49,954 --> 00:59:51,574
And that killing keyboard line.

1631
00:59:53,654 --> 00:59:54,314
Yeah, great call.

1632
00:59:54,414 --> 00:59:54,424
Yeah.

1633
00:59:54,424 --> 00:59:54,884
Great moment.

1634
00:59:55,414 --> 00:59:56,194
He knows he gets me.

1635
00:59:59,114 --> 01:00:00,594
You think D'Angelo got a chance to hear that?

1636
01:00:01,054 --> 01:00:01,414
Maybe.

1637
01:00:03,914 --> 01:00:06,334
And like, there's so much automated drums, which may be-

1638
01:00:06,434 --> 01:00:06,444
Yeah

1639
01:00:06,444 --> 01:00:08,574
... a little bit of a quibble bit, but that's more of a quibble bit from the

1640
01:00:08,614 --> 01:00:09,034
period.

1641
01:00:09,254 --> 01:00:09,374
Yeah.

1642
01:00:09,634 --> 01:00:13,294
But, so like, the humanity of those background, like, if you

1643
01:00:13,354 --> 01:00:13,664
hear,

1644
01:00:14,754 --> 01:00:18,434
it's just some of the most stunning three-part harmony and stuff.

1645
01:00:18,934 --> 01:00:22,184
D'Angelo was very influenced by that particular kind of

1646
01:00:22,854 --> 01:00:25,354
vocal writing and execution. So I love it there.

1647
01:00:25,854 --> 01:00:29,554
I'm going to go when the drums come in on "Let's Go Crazy," the

1648
01:00:29,754 --> 01:00:32,294
opening track. The very beginning of the album.

1649
01:00:32,374 --> 01:00:32,384
Yeah.

1650
01:00:32,394 --> 01:00:36,254
Because, we have this organ intro, this sermon.

1651
01:00:36,514 --> 01:00:36,654
Yeah.

1652
01:00:36,714 --> 01:00:37,854
It means forever, and that's a mighty long time, but I'm in it.

1653
01:00:37,894 --> 01:00:38,934
Call to the altar.

1654
01:00:39,034 --> 01:00:42,534
A call to the altar. The warbly DX7.

1655
01:00:43,434 --> 01:00:45,354
The afterworld.

1656
01:00:45,434 --> 01:00:46,314
I think it's a DX7.

1657
01:00:46,354 --> 01:00:46,364
Yeah.

1658
01:00:46,374 --> 01:00:47,254
I don't know what that is, actually.

1659
01:00:48,154 --> 01:00:48,704
Everything happens.

1660
01:00:48,714 --> 01:00:49,934
But when the drums come in here-

1661
01:00:50,214 --> 01:00:50,334
Yeah

1662
01:00:51,390 --> 01:00:52,870
To orgally organize almost

1663
01:00:53,150 --> 01:00:53,330
Yeah.

1664
01:00:53,350 --> 01:00:54,950
Oh, nice.

1665
01:00:55,050 --> 01:00:55,959
Oh, yes. It's-

1666
01:00:55,990 --> 01:00:58,170
So when you call up that shrink in Beverly Hills.

1667
01:00:58,220 --> 01:00:58,220
Call.

1668
01:00:58,270 --> 01:01:01,530
You know the one, Doctor "Everything's gonna be all right." When you're sitting

1669
01:01:01,540 --> 01:01:02,020
back at night, wondering why.

1670
01:01:02,030 --> 01:01:03,390
That big gated snare.

1671
01:01:03,530 --> 01:01:05,530
Man, and it's interrupting what he's saying, too.

1672
01:01:06,030 --> 01:01:07,150
It's like, "Come on, let's do this."

1673
01:01:07,340 --> 01:01:09,820
Well, it's such a great line for them to come into, "When you call up that shrink

1674
01:01:09,820 --> 01:01:12,610
in Beverly Hills. You know the one, Doctor Everything's gonna be all right." It's

1675
01:01:12,650 --> 01:01:13,790
such a great moment for the

1676
01:01:14,770 --> 01:01:15,810
beat to come in. I think it's like-

1677
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:16,290
It's just like, "Let's go."

1678
01:01:16,470 --> 01:01:18,560
One of the most incredible moments in pop music history, honestly.

1679
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:22,070
It's great. And I mean, I love this, it's like the secular and

1680
01:01:23,310 --> 01:01:26,110
the spiritual and the secular.

1681
01:01:26,290 --> 01:01:26,350
Yeah.

1682
01:01:26,430 --> 01:01:29,330
Right? And he's already mixing that, and then he just pushes it all the way through

1683
01:01:29,370 --> 01:01:32,430
with the shrink in Beverly Hills. Then you're like, "Oh, okay, that's what's up."

1684
01:01:33,350 --> 01:01:37,150
Quibble bits. I have one, and that's watching the movie,

1685
01:01:37,250 --> 01:01:38,830
there's so much great music.

1686
01:01:38,899 --> 01:01:39,710
The movie is a big quibble bit.

1687
01:01:39,770 --> 01:01:42,250
There's so much great music that's in the movie that-

1688
01:01:42,290 --> 01:01:42,430
Mm

1689
01:01:42,890 --> 01:01:45,790
... I know this isn't technically, I guess, a soundtrack, although isn't it a

1690
01:01:45,830 --> 01:01:46,270
soundtrack?

1691
01:01:46,290 --> 01:01:46,620
I think it is.

1692
01:01:46,650 --> 01:01:48,490
But couldn't we have gotten a little bit of

1693
01:01:53,850 --> 01:01:54,190
Woo.

1694
01:01:55,369 --> 01:01:56,490
You know?

1695
01:01:56,570 --> 01:01:57,330
I'd be okay with that.

1696
01:01:59,090 --> 01:02:00,510
Little Morris Day and The Time.

1697
01:02:00,610 --> 01:02:00,830
Uh.

1698
01:02:02,690 --> 01:02:03,930
That would've made this a soundtrack.

1699
01:02:03,970 --> 01:02:07,430
It would've had to have multiple artists. Woo.

1700
01:02:09,010 --> 01:02:09,230
I

1701
01:02:10,210 --> 01:02:12,150
have been watching you.

1702
01:02:12,270 --> 01:02:13,010
Interesting. Yeah.

1703
01:02:14,390 --> 01:02:14,550
I want to know you.

1704
01:02:14,580 --> 01:02:16,850
But, so you're saying a quibble bit on Prince's-

1705
01:02:16,890 --> 01:02:17,170
There's a-

1706
01:02:17,180 --> 01:02:19,770
... on "Purple Rain" is there's not enough Morris Day and The Time.

1707
01:02:19,830 --> 01:02:21,890
Well, and there was this great Apollonia track.

1708
01:02:21,910 --> 01:02:22,730
There's another one,

1709
01:02:23,810 --> 01:02:25,010
it was like a, I forget

1710
01:02:26,070 --> 01:02:30,060
what the artist's name was. A new wave kind of thing that happened in

1711
01:02:30,070 --> 01:02:30,550
the movie.

1712
01:02:30,570 --> 01:02:30,710
Mm.

1713
01:02:30,930 --> 01:02:32,620
Hit me up in the comments. I'm spacing right now.

1714
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:33,000
Yeah.

1715
01:02:33,010 --> 01:02:35,790
But there's some music that's in the movie that I would love if this was maybe just

1716
01:02:35,810 --> 01:02:36,550
at the end of the album.

1717
01:02:36,630 --> 01:02:36,710
Yeah.

1718
01:02:36,770 --> 01:02:37,090
I don't know.

1719
01:02:37,210 --> 01:02:37,630
Yeah. Yeah.

1720
01:02:37,650 --> 01:02:40,080
I mean, how can you... It is a small quibble, but-

1721
01:02:40,110 --> 01:02:42,870
That's our first quibble bit that there wasn't enough of another artist on the

1722
01:02:42,910 --> 01:02:43,230
record.

1723
01:02:43,710 --> 01:02:46,450
Well, yeah, but I wanted to, after watching the film, I was like, "I wish Morris

1724
01:02:46,470 --> 01:02:46,949
Day was on the album."

1725
01:02:47,010 --> 01:02:49,570
Well, it's like your thing with the reverse pedal.

1726
01:02:49,630 --> 01:02:51,030
This is like a reverse soundtrack.

1727
01:02:51,550 --> 01:02:51,680
You're right.

1728
01:02:51,730 --> 01:02:55,030
Right? The movie's, I mean, the record comes out of the-

1729
01:02:55,050 --> 01:02:55,090
Yeah

1730
01:02:55,110 --> 01:02:57,400
... idea for the movie, but the record's the big thing, and then the movie-

1731
01:02:57,410 --> 01:02:59,840
Maybe that's a terrible take. I don't know, but I really love Morris Day and The

1732
01:02:59,870 --> 01:03:00,010
Time.

1733
01:03:00,430 --> 01:03:00,710
Sue you.

1734
01:03:01,010 --> 01:03:01,110
Yeah.

1735
01:03:01,730 --> 01:03:05,510
My quibble bit is "Baby, I'm a Star." I just feel like it's a little bit of a weak

1736
01:03:05,590 --> 01:03:08,030
link on this record. It's fine. It's a'ight.

1737
01:03:08,330 --> 01:03:12,030
And I mean, I think some of the drums, actually the drum sound's not even a quibble

1738
01:03:12,070 --> 01:03:15,140
bit. It's just a period thing. What you got for accoutrements?

1739
01:03:15,230 --> 01:03:15,670
You're wrong.

1740
01:03:15,950 --> 01:03:16,070
Okay.

1741
01:03:16,290 --> 01:03:19,370
Accoutrements, I have a 10. There's literally a blockbuster movie attached to this

1742
01:03:19,450 --> 01:03:19,670
album.

1743
01:03:20,070 --> 01:03:21,069
Is that part of the accoutrements?

1744
01:03:21,230 --> 01:03:23,190
It created the color purple-

1745
01:03:23,290 --> 01:03:23,300
Purple.

1746
01:03:23,300 --> 01:03:24,780
... being in the zeitgeist.

1747
01:03:24,850 --> 01:03:25,070
Yeah.

1748
01:03:25,110 --> 01:03:27,330
There's all the lace and everything-

1749
01:03:27,379 --> 01:03:27,379
Yes

1750
01:03:27,379 --> 01:03:29,810
... and the look, and the motorcycle.

1751
01:03:30,170 --> 01:03:31,080
Oh, you're really extending. Oh, yeah.

1752
01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:32,220
Lake Minnetonka. There's all this stuff.

1753
01:03:32,230 --> 01:03:33,570
You're extending out the accoutrements.

1754
01:03:33,599 --> 01:03:36,870
There's so much lore around the making of it, and there's so much

1755
01:03:36,910 --> 01:03:40,670
legend of all the relationships that formed and were-

1756
01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:42,930
... burned in this making of it, and the aftermath of it.

1757
01:03:42,970 --> 01:03:45,210
Are you including Apollonia as part of the accoutrements?

1758
01:03:45,350 --> 01:03:45,490
Yeah.

1759
01:03:45,790 --> 01:03:47,910
Okay. Okay, I'll give it a 10 then too.

1760
01:03:48,070 --> 01:03:51,270
There's a great moment, by the way, after she gets out of Lake Minnetonka,

1761
01:03:52,190 --> 01:03:54,350
where he takes off on his motorcycle.

1762
01:03:54,410 --> 01:03:54,750
Yeah.

1763
01:03:54,790 --> 01:03:58,310
And then he comes back to get her, but she starts getting on the back, and he

1764
01:03:58,830 --> 01:03:58,890
mm.

1765
01:03:59,430 --> 01:03:59,550
Yeah.

1766
01:03:59,710 --> 01:04:00,730
Like he's such a jerk.

1767
01:04:00,810 --> 01:04:02,590
Right. But doesn't he do it like 10 times?

1768
01:04:02,750 --> 01:04:02,840
Like they-

1769
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:03,400
He does it like 10 times

1770
01:04:03,410 --> 01:04:04,000
... he kind of overacts that part.

1771
01:04:04,010 --> 01:04:07,330
And I know, this whole movie is like him trying to figure that stuff out.

1772
01:04:07,370 --> 01:04:08,370
But I was just like, damn.

1773
01:04:08,410 --> 01:04:08,990
It was a different time.

1774
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:09,570
That's cold-blooded.

1775
01:04:09,580 --> 01:04:10,710
It was a different time. It was a different time.

1776
01:04:10,870 --> 01:04:12,330
Is this Prince's best album?

1777
01:04:13,230 --> 01:04:16,610
I'm gonna say no. I think on the other episode, on "Sign o' the Times," I

1778
01:04:16,690 --> 01:04:17,470
said that

1779
01:04:18,270 --> 01:04:20,330
my favorite, desert island, if I had to pick one.

1780
01:04:20,550 --> 01:04:20,560
Yeah.

1781
01:04:20,570 --> 01:04:22,670
This is a great one. This is his most popular.

1782
01:04:23,130 --> 01:04:25,570
This is probably his most pop, which isn't a bad thing.

1783
01:04:25,730 --> 01:04:26,190
Not a bad thing.

1784
01:04:26,250 --> 01:04:29,790
But I mean, look, a lot of people are gonna say, is this the KOB of Prince's

1785
01:04:29,890 --> 01:04:30,850
albums? Yes.

1786
01:04:31,630 --> 01:04:33,840
Yeah, I don't think it's, for me, it's not my favorite.

1787
01:04:34,010 --> 01:04:37,530
I actually have a tie for first, and it's "Dirty Mind" and "Controversy." I think

1788
01:04:37,570 --> 01:04:41,490
those two that came out, '80 and '81, are perfect albums.

1789
01:04:41,590 --> 01:04:41,670
Yeah.

1790
01:04:41,730 --> 01:04:45,560
And I love, and also, I mean, even the self-titled '79,

1791
01:04:46,170 --> 01:04:49,830
but "Dirty Mind" and "Controversy" together are like crack to me.

1792
01:04:49,910 --> 01:04:53,710
I can't get enough of it. I'm just addicted to those albums.

1793
01:04:53,850 --> 01:04:54,390
Yeah, got it.

1794
01:04:56,350 --> 01:04:56,930
Snob-o-meter.

1795
01:04:57,150 --> 01:04:57,290
One.

1796
01:04:58,270 --> 01:05:00,490
Well, I was gonna do one. I'm doing three.

1797
01:05:00,550 --> 01:05:02,630
Oh, yeah, it's just the biggest album of the year.

1798
01:05:02,710 --> 01:05:06,590
No, but there's some things to your story about Tipper

1799
01:05:06,650 --> 01:05:10,510
Gore and the rise of the Karens, no offense to

1800
01:05:10,550 --> 01:05:13,810
any Karens. That would push it off of a one a little bit, wouldn't it?

1801
01:05:15,190 --> 01:05:15,430
Why?

1802
01:05:15,810 --> 01:05:16,950
I don't know. Let's move on.

1803
01:05:18,090 --> 01:05:18,450
Up next.

1804
01:05:18,870 --> 01:05:19,630
Up next. What do you got?

1805
01:05:20,430 --> 01:05:22,530
I think I have "Like a Virgin," Madonna.

1806
01:05:23,210 --> 01:05:25,690
Since this is, that's you know what I mean?

1807
01:05:26,490 --> 01:05:28,010
Controversial to controversial.

1808
01:05:28,050 --> 01:05:28,330
Interesting.

1809
01:05:28,390 --> 01:05:31,650
I mean, artistically, I would, look, pop-wise, it's not a big,

1810
01:05:32,610 --> 01:05:36,070
I mean, pop impact during that year, it's not a big

1811
01:05:36,190 --> 01:05:39,730
fall-off to Madonna. I mean, artistically, yeah, probably.

1812
01:05:40,330 --> 01:05:43,810
But I mean, in terms of defining those times, you're right in there.

1813
01:05:43,910 --> 01:05:46,850
I'm back in '84, '85, if I go to that.

1814
01:05:47,150 --> 01:05:47,370
Mm.

1815
01:05:47,730 --> 01:05:48,570
And I don't love

1816
01:05:49,510 --> 01:05:53,130
that Madonna record or Madonna period, but it's very

1817
01:05:53,150 --> 01:05:54,550
indicative of the times. What you got?

1818
01:05:54,730 --> 01:05:54,930
Mm.

1819
01:05:55,890 --> 01:05:56,990
I'm gonna go with

1820
01:05:57,810 --> 01:05:59,230
Huey Lewis, "Sports."

1821
01:06:02,630 --> 01:06:03,410
And that's all I'm gonna say.

1822
01:06:03,470 --> 01:06:05,350
Okay. Got it. Very good.

1823
01:06:06,410 --> 01:06:08,770
I think we did it, and then we even did a little bit more.

1824
01:06:09,410 --> 01:06:09,950
Maybe too much?

1825
01:06:10,070 --> 01:06:12,490
That was good. Prince, man.

1826
01:06:12,550 --> 01:06:13,230
Thank you, Prince.

1827
01:06:13,410 --> 01:06:15,400
Yeah, curious, a curious genius, that's what we call him.

1828
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:16,790
Can we do "Controversy" next time?

1829
01:06:17,550 --> 01:06:18,030
Yeah, sure.

1830
01:06:18,060 --> 01:06:18,060
Okay.

1831
01:06:18,070 --> 01:06:19,030
That'd be a great next one.

1832
01:06:19,090 --> 01:06:19,560
Yeah, that'd be a great one.

1833
01:06:19,630 --> 01:06:19,750
Yeah.

1834
01:06:19,950 --> 01:06:20,050
All right.

1835
01:06:20,070 --> 01:06:21,430
If the Prince heirs let us.

1836
01:06:22,390 --> 01:06:22,650
Thank you.

1837
01:06:22,790 --> 01:06:23,310
Till next time.

1838
01:06:23,350 --> 01:06:23,790
You'll hear it.

1839
01:06:33,230 --> 01:06:35,310
I never meant to cause you

1840
01:06:36,170 --> 01:06:39,010
any sorrow.

1841
01:06:42,430 --> 01:06:45,970
Never meant to cause you any pain.

1842
01:06:50,870 --> 01:06:53,290
I just want one time to see you dance

1843
01:06:59,746 --> 01:07:03,106
To see you laughing in the

1844
01:07:03,346 --> 01:07:07,166
purple rain. Purple rain,

1845
01:07:07,786 --> 01:07:10,466
purple rain.

1846
01:07:14,946 --> 01:07:17,326
Purple rain, purple

1847
01:07:18,146 --> 01:07:18,626
rain.

1848
01:07:23,736 --> 01:07:27,306
Purple rain, purple rain.

1849
01:07:34,926 --> 01:07:38,246
I only want to see you

1850
01:07:38,506 --> 01:07:41,866
bathing in the purple rain.

1851
01:07:42,746 --> 01:07:44,246
I never wanted to be your

1852
01:07:45,246 --> 01:07:47,146
weekend lover.

1853
01:07:49,786 --> 01:07:49,896
Hmm.

1854
01:07:57,046 --> 01:07:59,726
I only wanted to be some kind of friend.

1855
01:08:00,566 --> 01:08:01,326
Yeah.

1856
01:08:05,886 --> 01:08:08,976
Honey, I could never steal you from another.

1857
01:08:11,086 --> 01:08:11,506
Mm.

1858
01:08:13,486 --> 01:08:17,467
It's such a shame our friendship had

1859
01:08:17,587 --> 01:08:18,206
to end.

1860
01:08:19,026 --> 01:08:23,007
Purple rain, purple rain.

1861
01:08:28,146 --> 01:08:31,266
Purple rain, purple rain.

1862
01:08:35,967 --> 01:08:39,587
Purple rain, purple rain.

1863
01:08:47,146 --> 01:08:50,387
I only want to see you

1864
01:08:50,566 --> 01:08:54,507
underneath the purple rain. Honey,

1865
01:08:54,826 --> 01:08:58,146
I know, I know, I know times are

1866
01:08:58,246 --> 01:08:59,806
changing. Huh.

1867
01:09:06,326 --> 01:09:09,946
And it's time we all reach out for

1868
01:09:09,967 --> 01:09:10,726
something new.

1869
01:09:11,866 --> 01:09:13,866
That means you too, baby.

1870
01:09:15,666 --> 01:09:19,626
You said you want to leave him. But you can't seem

1871
01:09:19,666 --> 01:09:21,126
to make up your mind.

1872
01:09:23,206 --> 01:09:24,286
You better close it

1873
01:09:25,406 --> 01:09:29,246
and let me guide you to the purple rain.

1874
01:09:30,306 --> 01:09:33,326
Purple rain, purple

1875
01:09:33,406 --> 01:09:34,306
rain.

1876
01:09:35,106 --> 01:09:35,306
Mm.

1877
01:09:39,186 --> 01:09:42,286
Purple rain, purple rain.

1878
01:09:47,226 --> 01:09:49,686
Purple rain, purple

1879
01:09:49,846 --> 01:09:51,887
rain.

1880
01:09:57,006 --> 01:10:00,986
Yeah. I only want to see you, only want

1881
01:10:01,026 --> 01:10:01,806
to see you

1882
01:10:02,966 --> 01:10:04,646
in the purple rain.

1883
01:11:42,036 --> 01:11:53,405
Ooh.

1884
01:12:19,846 --> 01:12:22,626
Let me guide you to the purple rain.

1885
01:12:24,626 --> 01:12:27,346
Let me guide you to the purple rain.

1886
01:12:28,906 --> 01:12:29,426
Oh,

1887
01:12:31,166 --> 01:12:31,556
oh, oh, oh, oh,

1888
01:12:33,506 --> 01:12:34,026
yeah.

1889
01:12:36,066 --> 01:12:38,846
Let me take you to the purple rain, yeah.

1890
01:12:39,686 --> 01:12:40,866
Honey, I want to take you,

1891
01:12:41,826 --> 01:12:45,366
honey, I want to take you to the purple

1892
01:12:45,426 --> 01:12:47,246
rain.