WEBVTT NOTE This file was generated by Descript 00:00:00.789 --> 00:00:06.320 Welcome to the Soul Touched by Dogs Podcast, the show for dog lovers who 00:00:06.340 --> 00:00:12.000 see dogs not as toys or tools, but wise souls worth our respect and care. 00:00:12.580 --> 00:00:14.559 I'm an Herrmann, and I'm your host. 00:00:15.320 --> 00:00:20.560 I talk to poor some humans, people who do great work for dogs and their people. 00:00:21.099 --> 00:00:23.360 So come and join us for today's conversation. 00:00:24.874 --> 00:00:28.546 Anke: record while we're laughing, because I love starting an 00:00:28.546 --> 00:00:32.116 episode with a good giggle. 00:00:32.116 --> 00:00:34.754 Well, hello and welcome, Alicia. 00:00:34.794 --> 00:00:36.694 I'm super happy to have you here. 00:00:37.564 --> 00:00:38.824 Want to do a quick comment from the giggle? 00:00:40.114 --> 00:00:42.294 Alicia: Well, cause we were talking before and then we were like, oh 00:00:42.464 --> 00:00:43.574 wait, we have to press record. 00:00:43.594 --> 00:00:48.554 Cause I so enjoy, uh, talking with you so much and I'm thrilled to be here today. 00:00:48.934 --> 00:00:50.874 Um, so thank you so much for having me. 00:00:51.624 --> 00:00:53.514 Now I got the giggles. 00:00:53.614 --> 00:00:54.734 Anke: I'm super excited too. 00:00:55.044 --> 00:00:59.204 So let's, let's kind of let's just get the people join the conversation. 00:01:01.054 --> 00:01:03.884 So where, where in the world are you based and you know, 00:01:03.944 --> 00:01:04.954 what's your business with dogs? 00:01:04.994 --> 00:01:05.934 What have you got to do with dogs? 00:01:06.754 --> 00:01:10.184 Alicia: Uh, well, I am in Phoenix, Arizona in the States, um, 00:01:10.184 --> 00:01:11.744 where it's nice and warm today. 00:01:11.804 --> 00:01:13.604 I know other places are not as much. 00:01:13.914 --> 00:01:17.454 Um, and my business is called Who Knew Healing, uh, Knew with 00:01:17.454 --> 00:01:20.324 a K and it's a multi passionate. 00:01:20.344 --> 00:01:23.539 So there's a whole human side intuitive life coach, mentor, 00:01:23.539 --> 00:01:24.099 all that kind of stuff. 00:01:24.099 --> 00:01:27.179 But today we're going to talk about the animal side, which I absolutely love. 00:01:27.179 --> 00:01:31.599 So I'm a former wildlife biologist who is actually also an 00:01:31.599 --> 00:01:33.329 animal communicator and medium. 00:01:33.379 --> 00:01:39.259 And so how that reflects to dogs is I still get to be of service, um, in 00:01:39.369 --> 00:01:42.079 so many, which I'm sure we're going to talk about so many facets of dog 00:01:42.079 --> 00:01:46.809 life, uh, but that it's in the animal communication and medianship, uh, facet. 00:01:47.589 --> 00:01:49.739 Anke: Oh, I find that endlessly fascinating. 00:01:49.739 --> 00:01:51.739 I can't wait to dig in there. 00:01:51.959 --> 00:01:58.089 So now the first piece I'm always curious about, like, in my understanding, 00:01:58.449 --> 00:02:02.489 that communication channel is kind of, it's always there and we all have it. 00:02:03.209 --> 00:02:07.289 But when normally in our, the way we brought up, it's not something we 00:02:07.369 --> 00:02:10.279 kind of encourage to pay attention to. 00:02:10.419 --> 00:02:14.104 So it tends to be like, A little cover, right? 00:02:14.354 --> 00:02:16.994 So how did you uncover it for yourself? 00:02:17.104 --> 00:02:22.684 And, and how did you go from that first like, Ooh, I actually could 00:02:22.874 --> 00:02:24.704 sort of sense something here. 00:02:25.044 --> 00:02:28.944 You know, what gave you the confidence to actually dig deeper 00:02:29.204 --> 00:02:30.694 and, you know, even offer that to 00:02:30.694 --> 00:02:31.134 Alicia: other people? 00:02:32.164 --> 00:02:36.194 Um, yeah, so it's, it's, it's a pretty funny story when you look at it. 00:02:36.244 --> 00:02:39.844 I was born with this gift, um, but I didn't know it because it's when 00:02:39.844 --> 00:02:42.364 you're born with something, it's just how you move through the world. 00:02:42.674 --> 00:02:44.474 So I was always really good with animals. 00:02:44.474 --> 00:02:46.174 When I was a kid, I was always outside. 00:02:46.184 --> 00:02:47.454 I only played with stuffed animals. 00:02:47.454 --> 00:02:48.544 I didn't play with dolls. 00:02:48.884 --> 00:02:52.654 So I didn't have this sort of direct consciousness around of, Oh, I'm 00:02:52.654 --> 00:02:54.354 talking to this animal right here. 00:02:54.354 --> 00:02:55.574 It just, it's like breathing. 00:02:55.604 --> 00:02:55.954 Right. 00:02:56.484 --> 00:03:00.989 And I actually thought, That it was a wildlife biologist thing. 00:03:01.019 --> 00:03:02.329 I thought it was a science thing. 00:03:02.349 --> 00:03:05.119 I thought all wildlife biologists talk to animals. 00:03:06.024 --> 00:03:08.274 Because that's just how I functioned. 00:03:08.974 --> 00:03:14.494 And I was probably in my thirties before I realized, you know, and it, and it's 00:03:14.494 --> 00:03:17.524 changed a little bit now, but mostly then it was a male dominated field. 00:03:17.524 --> 00:03:20.964 And I was in the field with a group of guys and I was like, you all, 00:03:21.474 --> 00:03:23.014 you all don't talk to animals. 00:03:23.014 --> 00:03:25.744 And they were just staring at me and they were like, no. 00:03:26.244 --> 00:03:27.914 And I was like, Oh, all right. 00:03:27.954 --> 00:03:29.974 So you don't hear the trees and the nothing. 00:03:30.314 --> 00:03:30.834 Okay. 00:03:31.249 --> 00:03:34.099 So it was, it was quite interesting because, like I said, 00:03:34.139 --> 00:03:36.029 I always just moved that way. 00:03:36.029 --> 00:03:37.989 It wasn't a conscious thing to me. 00:03:38.469 --> 00:03:43.929 So, um, after that and then, When, uh, my life took a dramatic turn and I wasn't 00:03:43.939 --> 00:03:47.719 able to be a wildlife biologist anymore and some other things shifted in my 00:03:47.719 --> 00:03:53.839 life, um, my abilities really opened up and started to come in even stronger. 00:03:53.839 --> 00:03:57.849 And then I did some internal work to be able to do it directly, like 00:03:57.849 --> 00:03:59.699 for clients and that sort of thing. 00:04:00.189 --> 00:04:02.209 So yeah, happy accident. 00:04:02.699 --> 00:04:03.079 I don't even 00:04:03.209 --> 00:04:06.499 Anke: know how to like, that's, that's like when you think like, 00:04:06.739 --> 00:04:08.079 doesn't everybody, you know? 00:04:08.289 --> 00:04:09.749 So how do you perceive? 00:04:10.824 --> 00:04:14.954 What animals like, you know, because I've, I've had, I've had animal 00:04:14.954 --> 00:04:16.594 communicators on this podcast. 00:04:16.594 --> 00:04:16.744 Right. 00:04:16.804 --> 00:04:19.734 And so quite often it's like, oh, well, I receive it. 00:04:19.994 --> 00:04:21.574 Sometimes it's a sensation. 00:04:21.594 --> 00:04:25.964 Sometimes it's a visual, like, you know, sort of, how do you perceive what the 00:04:26.114 --> 00:04:28.289 animals or even the trees will look like? 00:04:28.609 --> 00:04:29.279 Kind of say back. 00:04:30.299 --> 00:04:34.899 Alicia: Um, so my two strongest are knowing and feeling, which are your 00:04:34.899 --> 00:04:36.539 claircognizant and your clairsentient. 00:04:36.819 --> 00:04:38.859 And then my sight and sound are right behind, which is your 00:04:38.859 --> 00:04:39.939 clairvoyant and clairaudient. 00:04:40.309 --> 00:04:43.529 Um, so, and for me, animals come in sort of two ways. 00:04:43.539 --> 00:04:45.479 One, they're very like matter of fact, right? 00:04:45.479 --> 00:04:47.699 That's the claircognizant, like, these are what I want you to know. 00:04:47.699 --> 00:04:49.049 This is what's going on in my body. 00:04:49.759 --> 00:04:52.969 And then the other time is when they come in with the words, but also the feelings. 00:04:52.979 --> 00:04:56.834 So I will have all the feelings in my body, which is such a gift to to 00:04:56.834 --> 00:05:01.014 be able to give to my clients because then they get to feel it through me. 00:05:01.434 --> 00:05:04.754 They get to, especially if we're doing a mediumship session and their animal has 00:05:04.754 --> 00:05:08.844 already transitioned, it's like they get to still have those emotions and that, 00:05:09.144 --> 00:05:11.674 um, emotional connection through me. 00:05:12.069 --> 00:05:15.629 And, and then they'll send me pictures or, or sounds or that sort of thing. 00:05:15.629 --> 00:05:18.689 But that's usually, it's the, just the, like, it's literally like 00:05:18.689 --> 00:05:22.409 you and I having a conversation right now is how I talk to them. 00:05:22.409 --> 00:05:25.839 And then, like I said, sometimes the feelings will come in as well. 00:05:25.839 --> 00:05:29.819 And, um, and then the sensation, like, if we're talking about food, right? 00:05:29.819 --> 00:05:30.979 Like, do they like the food? 00:05:30.999 --> 00:05:34.519 Uh, my, if they like it, my mouth will fill with saliva, like instantly. 00:05:34.539 --> 00:05:35.529 And I'll be like, we liked that one. 00:05:35.529 --> 00:05:38.254 And, or they're like, I'm like, they like the food, but they don't like the flavors. 00:05:38.264 --> 00:05:40.754 So then we run through the flavors and I'm like, nope, they want the lamb. 00:05:40.754 --> 00:05:41.804 They don't like the venison. 00:05:41.804 --> 00:05:46.654 And so even something really specific like that can, you know, have a dramatic 00:05:46.704 --> 00:05:48.454 effect, but they tell me very clearly. 00:05:49.474 --> 00:05:52.096 So it's just like talking like 00:05:52.096 --> 00:05:52.904 Anke: that's fascinating. 00:05:52.904 --> 00:05:55.224 So, because I think one of, I mean, the pieces, there's always 00:05:55.224 --> 00:05:56.734 the two pieces for me, it's like. 00:05:57.044 --> 00:06:03.064 One is to actually perceive it, like to even like listen close enough to even 00:06:03.284 --> 00:06:05.294 like, you know, hear it or perceive it. 00:06:05.594 --> 00:06:08.834 And the other part is to trust that it really comes from the animal, 00:06:08.944 --> 00:06:09.254 Alicia: right? 00:06:10.814 --> 00:06:14.994 That is one of the big, particularly if you're, um, so I call people 00:06:14.994 --> 00:06:18.234 like me left brain empaths because I'm super analytical, right? 00:06:18.234 --> 00:06:22.144 I was a scientist and there are so many times that any type of psychic 00:06:22.144 --> 00:06:24.814 development where that's sort of. 00:06:26.499 --> 00:06:28.239 For lack of a better word, frowned upon, right? 00:06:28.239 --> 00:06:30.029 They're like, you've got to get your brain out of the way. 00:06:30.309 --> 00:06:33.089 And it's like, no, we learn differently. 00:06:33.369 --> 00:06:36.139 So there was so much in my psychic development where I was doing 00:06:36.139 --> 00:06:37.109 things that just didn't work. 00:06:37.109 --> 00:06:38.729 And I kept thinking I was screwing up. 00:06:39.209 --> 00:06:41.519 And so there's this place though. 00:06:41.519 --> 00:06:44.699 And it's like, one of the things I teach my human people is like, you 00:06:44.699 --> 00:06:49.039 get very clear on what's a logical thought and what's an intuitive thought. 00:06:49.059 --> 00:06:50.539 And they feel differently. 00:06:50.539 --> 00:06:52.029 They have a different vibration. 00:06:52.269 --> 00:06:53.439 And once you get that. 00:06:53.719 --> 00:06:56.819 You know, whether it's the animal or a tree or any, cause that's an 00:06:56.819 --> 00:07:01.919 intuitive consciousness, energetic thought coming in versus your, 00:07:02.099 --> 00:07:03.209 which we love our brains, right? 00:07:03.239 --> 00:07:04.209 A logical thought. 00:07:04.609 --> 00:07:07.369 And that, that makes a really big difference. 00:07:07.399 --> 00:07:10.749 And that, and that grows that trust factor so much. 00:07:11.159 --> 00:07:11.489 Yeah, 00:07:11.539 --> 00:07:12.459 Anke: I can see that. 00:07:12.499 --> 00:07:15.459 Like, and I've, this really speaks to me because I'm kind of one of those 00:07:15.889 --> 00:07:20.759 sort of in between, you know, like really strong left brain analytical and 00:07:20.839 --> 00:07:22.599 the arty party creative and whatever. 00:07:22.629 --> 00:07:25.174 So it's like, This really speaks to me. 00:07:25.584 --> 00:07:30.194 So do you, do you think that anybody can learn this? 00:07:30.194 --> 00:07:30.904 Is this learnable? 00:07:30.914 --> 00:07:34.614 Or is this a, you know, a gift that you develop? 00:07:34.634 --> 00:07:35.974 Or could, could I do that? 00:07:36.024 --> 00:07:37.884 If I wanted to say, Oh, I want to do that. 00:07:37.884 --> 00:07:38.424 Could I do that? 00:07:39.094 --> 00:07:41.344 Alicia: Yes, I believe it's no different. 00:07:41.494 --> 00:07:45.039 We're all born with you know, psychic abilities, right? 00:07:45.039 --> 00:07:47.769 We're all born, born with intuition, all that kind of stuff. 00:07:47.769 --> 00:07:51.069 So it depends on how you want to develop it, which gifts you want to have. 00:07:51.459 --> 00:07:55.599 Um, there are tons of people who teach you how to talk to your animals. 00:07:55.619 --> 00:07:58.539 It's one of the things that when I work with my clients, like we're having 00:07:58.539 --> 00:08:02.789 sessions and say, it's a transitioning one or some health things I teach. 00:08:02.839 --> 00:08:06.759 I was like, look, you're going to know because when we have our animals, if 00:08:06.759 --> 00:08:10.439 we're, Depending on, because everyone sort of views their pets differently, 00:08:10.739 --> 00:08:13.959 um, like some are like, they're not family members, some they are family, 00:08:13.959 --> 00:08:18.689 some they are soul mates, you know, um, but we have that intuitive connection 00:08:18.689 --> 00:08:21.119 with them and you can tie into that. 00:08:21.459 --> 00:08:24.939 And because I have, one of my specific gifts is to be able to tell what 00:08:24.939 --> 00:08:28.599 someone else's abilities are, whether it's sight, sound, any of that. 00:08:28.889 --> 00:08:30.239 Then I can teach them. 00:08:30.539 --> 00:08:33.009 I'm like, okay, so you're going to listen to this, this, and 00:08:33.009 --> 00:08:34.069 this if they're clear audience. 00:08:34.079 --> 00:08:37.479 So I teach them how to listen to their animal or to get the pictures from 00:08:37.479 --> 00:08:40.589 their animal just in little bits, just in the sessions we're having 00:08:40.589 --> 00:08:44.714 on communication so that when they leave our session, Everyone always 00:08:44.714 --> 00:08:46.034 goes home with homework, regardless. 00:08:46.734 --> 00:08:48.704 They're not just dependent on me. 00:08:49.764 --> 00:08:50.424 You know what I mean? 00:08:50.424 --> 00:08:55.814 I give them a foundation so that they have that sense of safety and 00:08:55.814 --> 00:08:58.924 trust that not everything is like, Oh my God, I need another, but 00:08:58.934 --> 00:08:59.904 they're like, no, no, she taught me. 00:08:59.904 --> 00:09:00.144 Okay. 00:09:00.144 --> 00:09:00.924 I get calm. 00:09:00.954 --> 00:09:01.634 I listen. 00:09:01.954 --> 00:09:02.214 Okay. 00:09:02.214 --> 00:09:03.994 What is my, what is my dog doing? 00:09:04.384 --> 00:09:05.134 So I. 00:09:05.264 --> 00:09:06.554 I know that was like a long answer. 00:09:06.554 --> 00:09:07.724 I'm just very passionate about it. 00:09:07.724 --> 00:09:12.984 Everybody, and I will tell you, it is sometimes really, even 00:09:12.984 --> 00:09:15.584 for me, it is sometimes really hard to hear your own animal. 00:09:15.994 --> 00:09:16.164 I 00:09:16.164 --> 00:09:19.854 Anke: was just about to ask you that, you know, if you have that emotional 00:09:19.854 --> 00:09:25.164 connection, um, to your own animal, like, will you, will your little 00:09:25.174 --> 00:09:26.674 monkey mind get in the way there? 00:09:27.089 --> 00:09:29.799 Alicia: Yeah, it's the emotional attachment that gets in there 00:09:30.019 --> 00:09:33.629 because, and that's whether it's people or animals or like, that's 00:09:33.639 --> 00:09:35.669 why my clients are not my friends. 00:09:35.979 --> 00:09:40.019 Because my intuitive abilities get fuzzy when you're my inner circle 00:09:40.029 --> 00:09:41.489 friend, because I'm attached, right? 00:09:41.489 --> 00:09:42.839 I'm like, I want the best for you. 00:09:42.839 --> 00:09:45.114 I want, all those sort of things. 00:09:45.424 --> 00:09:47.224 And it's the same with our animals. 00:09:47.234 --> 00:09:48.574 Sometimes it's really clear. 00:09:48.604 --> 00:09:50.384 Other times you're like, why are you talking? 00:09:50.384 --> 00:09:50.764 I don't know. 00:09:50.764 --> 00:09:51.394 What are you saying? 00:09:51.434 --> 00:09:56.224 I don't, you know, and with my soul kitty who transitioned last year, Pip, when he 00:09:56.224 --> 00:09:58.244 got sick, he was diagnosed with diabetes. 00:09:58.484 --> 00:09:59.864 Like I was a wreck. 00:10:00.364 --> 00:10:00.884 And. 00:10:01.259 --> 00:10:05.339 Even everything I was trying to do, he was like, Mom, you gotta, like, you 00:10:05.339 --> 00:10:08.659 know, like, I would have to, when we go to do his shots, I had to be really 00:10:08.659 --> 00:10:14.019 conscious to pull my energy back so that I'm not coming at it like this. 00:10:14.089 --> 00:10:15.299 Oh, we're gonna do this shot. 00:10:15.299 --> 00:10:17.999 I had to be like, pull it all back so that we could do it. 00:10:18.369 --> 00:10:22.089 Um, and it's, it's just a different, it can absolutely be done. 00:10:22.119 --> 00:10:23.899 It's a different type of relationship though. 00:10:26.114 --> 00:10:29.534 I always recommend, whether it's, you know, this is something you do for 00:10:29.534 --> 00:10:34.244 a living, like when it's to, to get outside help just to validate, or, you 00:10:34.244 --> 00:10:37.974 know, just to triangulate that sort of thing, because sometimes we can't tell. 00:10:39.314 --> 00:10:44.364 Anke: I guess it's a bit similar to how you don't usually coach your close 00:10:44.624 --> 00:10:48.454 friends or, you know, a therapist wouldn't work with their partner. 00:10:48.864 --> 00:10:52.194 You know, so it's like that same kind of thing where the relationship 00:10:52.454 --> 00:10:54.254 itself sort of get in the way. 00:10:54.484 --> 00:11:00.204 So what are the most common things that people come to you for and ask about? 00:11:00.254 --> 00:11:01.094 What is it that people want 00:11:01.094 --> 00:11:01.434 Alicia: to know? 00:11:02.414 --> 00:11:08.074 Um, I get a lot of medical or end of life transitions because, uh, this 00:11:08.074 --> 00:11:09.834 is still considered woo woo, right? 00:11:10.264 --> 00:11:12.604 And so they've tried everything else. 00:11:13.379 --> 00:11:15.879 So they're like, well, I'll try the weird thing in their mind. 00:11:16.539 --> 00:11:20.329 You know, like that's, they've already spent thousands at the vet or whatever. 00:11:20.329 --> 00:11:22.709 And then they come see me and they're always like, I wish, I 00:11:22.709 --> 00:11:24.039 wish I would've come here first. 00:11:24.039 --> 00:11:24.519 I'm like, understood. 00:11:24.519 --> 00:11:25.329 Cause we work together. 00:11:25.329 --> 00:11:28.569 Like we're a team, you know, like you're behaviorist, you're trainers, you're 00:11:28.569 --> 00:11:31.099 vets, me, it's, it's a support system. 00:11:31.669 --> 00:11:31.989 And. 00:11:32.874 --> 00:11:36.854 Um, and you know, when I get those health ones or the end of life transitions, 00:11:36.854 --> 00:11:42.104 they're so precious to me because I'm able to, you know, give the information 00:11:42.124 --> 00:11:45.904 and those few months or a few weeks or whatever it is that you may have left, or 00:11:45.914 --> 00:11:51.569 even if it's not a end of life, diagnosis, um, working through a medical situation. 00:11:51.849 --> 00:11:56.309 When you have that information, it changes everything because now, you 00:11:56.319 --> 00:12:00.169 know, that your animal does want this treatment or doesn't want that treatment. 00:12:00.169 --> 00:12:02.949 So all of your worrying about, am I getting it right? 00:12:03.369 --> 00:12:06.624 Um, Especially if there's financial concerns in there. 00:12:06.874 --> 00:12:10.424 People have so much guilt over, I don't have the money for chemo or I 00:12:10.424 --> 00:12:12.084 don't have the money for a surgery. 00:12:12.454 --> 00:12:14.984 And, you know, sometimes they're going to be like, I don't want the chemo. 00:12:15.384 --> 00:12:17.844 And so imagine if all of that goes away. 00:12:17.844 --> 00:12:19.734 So I get a lot of guilt goes away. 00:12:20.184 --> 00:12:20.614 Right. 00:12:21.264 --> 00:12:25.264 And then you have like your last few months or weeks are so much more peaceful. 00:12:25.264 --> 00:12:27.264 You're doing exactly what your animal wants, right? 00:12:27.264 --> 00:12:32.054 You have that, those periods of just joy, even though it's a bittersweet situation. 00:12:32.584 --> 00:12:37.034 Um, I get a lot of behavioral, um, challenges as well. 00:12:37.034 --> 00:12:40.894 So separation anxiety, uh, a lot of rescues, right? 00:12:40.894 --> 00:12:43.014 People, which I love, they adopt from the rescues. 00:12:43.034 --> 00:12:46.664 And then we've got some emotional or physical abuse that we've got 00:12:46.664 --> 00:12:48.254 to work through recovery wise. 00:12:48.574 --> 00:12:52.689 Um, And so a lot of those kind of situations, which is great because 00:12:52.689 --> 00:12:56.009 we love when people adopt out of the shelters and we want to be able to 00:12:56.009 --> 00:12:57.779 support them with all kinds of tools. 00:12:58.359 --> 00:12:58.849 Anke: I love that. 00:12:58.899 --> 00:12:59.179 I love that. 00:12:59.479 --> 00:13:02.449 So when it comes to like, say, end of life, like what are the questions? 00:13:02.549 --> 00:13:06.644 Is it like, is it time to go or what treatment or what are, the questions? 00:13:06.724 --> 00:13:09.524 Or what did my animal kind of want to say before they went? 00:13:09.524 --> 00:13:11.004 Or like, what is it that 00:13:11.004 --> 00:13:11.991 Alicia: people want to know? 00:13:11.991 --> 00:13:12.731 All of those. 00:13:12.731 --> 00:13:15.691 So yes, if they're, if we're at a place where they're trying 00:13:15.691 --> 00:13:18.644 to decide on a treatment, like they've been given a diagnosis. 00:13:18.974 --> 00:13:22.454 So then we'll talk about whether or not the, the dog wants to 00:13:22.454 --> 00:13:23.964 have any of those things done. 00:13:23.984 --> 00:13:26.884 Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't, sometimes they're like, I'm in the middle. 00:13:27.184 --> 00:13:28.864 Um, and. 00:13:29.234 --> 00:13:33.474 And then there's times of the animal wants, you know, they deliver all their 00:13:33.474 --> 00:13:37.704 messages and they will not going to cry and they want to, you know, say 00:13:37.714 --> 00:13:39.584 thank you and how much they love you. 00:13:39.584 --> 00:13:44.564 And, um, and a lot of times, you know, it's cause one of the things my 00:13:44.564 --> 00:13:46.064 clients ask is like, when will I know? 00:13:46.404 --> 00:13:47.754 And I, and I totally get that. 00:13:47.764 --> 00:13:51.264 And so I will ask the animals, like, can you give us a clear sign? 00:13:51.264 --> 00:13:52.214 What is your clear sign? 00:13:52.554 --> 00:13:55.344 And so sometimes it's like, look, I won't run to the car anymore to 00:13:55.344 --> 00:13:57.084 get in there or I'll stop eating. 00:13:57.364 --> 00:13:59.664 Or so then the, the pet parent knows. 00:14:00.034 --> 00:14:01.824 Um, other ones completely planned. 00:14:01.824 --> 00:14:06.474 Like I have this, this one client, um, if you go to my, they're the dogs at the top. 00:14:06.474 --> 00:14:07.364 It's Malcolm and Angus. 00:14:07.364 --> 00:14:08.384 I talk about them all the time. 00:14:08.714 --> 00:14:11.874 These little guys, they planned their entire celebration of life. 00:14:13.339 --> 00:14:16.139 So like, it was about, I think two or three months we had 00:14:16.139 --> 00:14:17.709 when their owner contacted me. 00:14:18.709 --> 00:14:21.599 And the first session we're crying and we're laughing because these 00:14:21.599 --> 00:14:23.859 two little guys are just amazing. 00:14:23.859 --> 00:14:24.979 And they're like, no, no. 00:14:25.399 --> 00:14:26.899 One who is more rambunctious. 00:14:26.899 --> 00:14:28.279 He's like, I want to party. 00:14:28.489 --> 00:14:32.089 And the other one's like, I'd like to have a brunch because Malcolm is more subdued. 00:14:32.289 --> 00:14:34.429 They picked their colors of the streamers. 00:14:34.719 --> 00:14:39.929 Like, it was so, it was such a different ending process than like, 00:14:39.949 --> 00:14:41.104 what it could have Could have been. 00:14:41.104 --> 00:14:43.469 So sometimes the animals do that, where they're like, look, this 00:14:43.469 --> 00:14:44.784 is what I wanted to look like. 00:14:45.024 --> 00:14:46.644 Let's, let's have a blast. 00:14:47.174 --> 00:14:48.934 Um, I love it. 00:14:49.304 --> 00:14:49.464 Anke: I love it. 00:14:49.814 --> 00:14:55.674 I think the, the, the, the guilt removal, I think that really speaks 00:14:55.674 --> 00:14:59.194 to me because I think I can totally see how that, I think, actually, it's 00:14:59.194 --> 00:15:02.094 funny, funny, like, I'm just still thinking, isn't that interesting? 00:15:02.094 --> 00:15:05.714 When, when my Leo passed, that was like, how would I know was my 00:15:05.714 --> 00:15:09.424 biggest concern all these years, you know, when he was getting older? 00:15:09.574 --> 00:15:11.194 And I'm like, How will I know? 00:15:11.314 --> 00:15:14.504 It's like, because there was always this conflict where I thought, well, 00:15:14.504 --> 00:15:18.974 I don't want him, I don't want to put him to sleep when he still has, you 00:15:18.974 --> 00:15:22.854 know, will to live and wants to live. 00:15:23.194 --> 00:15:26.764 But at the same time, I don't want to make him suffer just 00:15:26.764 --> 00:15:28.514 because I can't let go, you know? 00:15:28.834 --> 00:15:30.784 And, and I was always like, how will I know? 00:15:30.784 --> 00:15:31.464 How will I know? 00:15:31.464 --> 00:15:33.144 And boy, it was so clear. 00:15:33.244 --> 00:15:35.944 Like at the moment, it was just like, there was no doubt. 00:15:36.804 --> 00:15:38.334 And I thought, oh, that was interesting. 00:15:38.334 --> 00:15:40.104 And it was a feeling, it was a sensation. 00:15:40.464 --> 00:15:43.324 More than, like, he didn't sort of say a word, I didn't see, you 00:15:43.324 --> 00:15:45.054 know, but it was like, so clear. 00:15:45.614 --> 00:15:48.134 That, that, it was like, oh, that's interesting, right? 00:15:49.794 --> 00:15:52.434 Alicia: And, you know, and there's lots of checklists and your vets will 00:15:52.434 --> 00:15:53.624 help you with that kind of stuff. 00:15:53.644 --> 00:15:58.204 And then there's, you know, I get a lot of them where, um, it, they're 00:15:58.204 --> 00:16:00.184 not following the checklist, right? 00:16:00.204 --> 00:16:03.304 Like your animal is, they're like, cause it's like lethargy 00:16:03.304 --> 00:16:06.264 and they stop eating and sort of the spark goes out of their eyes. 00:16:06.264 --> 00:16:08.989 And there's some animals, particularly our strong spirited ones. 00:16:08.989 --> 00:16:14.074 Like my kitty Pip was, you know, he was, except he stopped eating eventually, 00:16:14.074 --> 00:16:15.299 but he was like, What are we doing? 00:16:15.299 --> 00:16:15.999 Are we playing today? 00:16:15.999 --> 00:16:20.509 And I was like, you're not helping me because you're not following the 00:16:20.509 --> 00:16:26.449 checklist and, and there's a lot of times that animals, they do this where, you 00:16:26.449 --> 00:16:28.149 know, they're, they're not doing well. 00:16:28.159 --> 00:16:31.039 You think it's getting close and then they seem to have this recovery 00:16:31.539 --> 00:16:33.489 for a couple of weeks, right? 00:16:33.489 --> 00:16:36.009 They like start and you're like, Oh my gosh, this is great. 00:16:37.574 --> 00:16:41.484 And then it goes back down and that's so confusing for pet parents. 00:16:41.764 --> 00:16:42.414 But I think humans 00:16:42.674 --> 00:16:43.274 Anke: do that too. 00:16:43.454 --> 00:16:45.154 I think it's the same with humans as well. 00:16:45.494 --> 00:16:48.414 Like when there's kind of like cancer or something, like the assist is 00:16:48.414 --> 00:16:49.694 like, Oh my God, it's getting better. 00:16:49.914 --> 00:16:53.134 And then, you know, I think that is, that is pretty, pretty common. 00:16:53.314 --> 00:16:57.174 So if somebody wants to have a session or work with you, 00:16:57.204 --> 00:16:58.784 like, how can they get in touch? 00:16:58.804 --> 00:16:59.014 Where 00:16:59.014 --> 00:16:59.494 Alicia: can they find you? 00:17:00.554 --> 00:17:02.594 Um, so through my website, who knew healing. 00:17:02.814 --> 00:17:07.524 com and it's all done remotely, so it can be done all over the world. 00:17:07.524 --> 00:17:12.674 I have clients in other States, other countries, and, um, and I'm also a medium, 00:17:12.714 --> 00:17:16.474 like I said, so if your animal has already transitioned and you're still having 00:17:16.474 --> 00:17:20.984 questions, you're still wondering, um, please, please, please reach out because 00:17:21.024 --> 00:17:22.444 it can, it can make all the difference. 00:17:22.454 --> 00:17:23.574 I just had that happen. 00:17:23.694 --> 00:17:27.384 Like you and I were talking about the live event I was doing and there was a 00:17:27.384 --> 00:17:32.394 woman in, um, Her cat transitioned two years ago and she was still carrying 00:17:32.394 --> 00:17:36.394 around so much and we had just a quick session and she's texting, she's like, 00:17:36.394 --> 00:17:37.904 oh my gosh, my whole life has changed. 00:17:38.914 --> 00:17:40.354 And she's like, I feel so much better. 00:17:40.374 --> 00:17:41.564 I'm not carrying this around. 00:17:41.564 --> 00:17:44.374 Things she was struggling to do in her daily life two years 00:17:44.374 --> 00:17:46.264 later are now easy for her. 00:17:47.044 --> 00:17:48.474 And I was like, Oh my God. 00:17:48.474 --> 00:17:49.547 Yeah. 00:17:49.547 --> 00:17:54.314 So, uh, you know, the information changes everything. 00:17:54.624 --> 00:17:57.174 You do not have to be carrying around any stress, worry, 00:17:57.184 --> 00:17:58.904 guilt, your animals love you. 00:17:59.374 --> 00:18:02.844 They, whether they're in body or not, they always want to talk, especially dogs. 00:18:02.844 --> 00:18:05.229 Dogs are like, Oh my God, what are we going to talk about today? 00:18:05.229 --> 00:18:07.734 Cats are like, what are we doing? 00:18:08.044 --> 00:18:12.814 And then they're like, okay, the dogs are like, I love 00:18:12.894 --> 00:18:12.914 Anke: it. 00:18:12.964 --> 00:18:13.324 I love it. 00:18:13.594 --> 00:18:14.574 Well, thank you so much. 00:18:14.574 --> 00:18:15.814 We're always going to pop the link. 00:18:15.824 --> 00:18:18.164 If you're listening to the podcast, it's in the show notes. 00:18:18.224 --> 00:18:20.924 If you're watching the video, it's just going to be just the bottom below 00:18:21.334 --> 00:18:25.264 and, uh, get in touch with Alicia and, you know, have a chat with your dog. 00:18:25.904 --> 00:18:26.224 Alicia: Right. 00:18:26.254 --> 00:18:27.284 Thank you so much Anke. 00:18:28.204 --> 00:18:28.534 Thank you. 00:18:29.572 --> 00:18:30.802 Thanks so much for listening. 00:18:31.322 --> 00:18:35.622 If you enjoyed the episode, don't forget to subscribe, and leave a review so 00:18:35.722 --> 00:18:37.502 other dog lovers can find the show. 00:18:38.292 --> 00:18:41.782 If you haven't already, head over to soul touched by dogs. 00:18:42.212 --> 00:18:47.782 com and sign up for weekly doggy cuteness tips, recommendations, and personal 00:18:47.882 --> 00:18:50.252 stories to warm your dog loving heart. 00:18:50.252 --> 00:18:53.982 And if you know a pawsome human you think I should interview, 00:18:54.402 --> 00:18:55.542 I'd love an introduction. 00:18:56.022 --> 00:18:57.852 Email me at Anke. 00:18:58.122 --> 00:19:02.357 That's A N k E at Soul touched by dogs.com.