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All right.

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Welcome, everybody,

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to the United States Department of Nerds,

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where we are for the people,

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by the people, and of the people.

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You are listening to the USBN on the DSPN.

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Thanks for watching!

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All right.

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What is up, everybody?

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I have a whole gang of

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people today coming on.

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So let me introduce them to

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you one by one.

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And we will start with a

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perennial favorite around these parts.

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And that is Amanda Rivas.

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Amanda, welcome to the show.

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Hi, thanks for having me.

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It's always a great time being here.

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And you know me,

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I'm never going to turn down like you.

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I don't turn down a good

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conversation about Star Wars.

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Never, and if I do,

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there is something wrong with me,

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send help.

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All right, who do we have next?

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Ah, I know who we have next.

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He is a BC+, first round, first ballot,

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Hall of Famer.

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We all know him from the pop break.

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And basically,

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he's everywhere and anywhere,

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if you know where to look.

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Ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Bill Botkin.

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What's up, man?

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I love this floating X-Wing

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cockpit background.

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I'm like, this is great.

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It makes me feel like- It

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goes with the theme.

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But if you get nauseous, please, you know,

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call the camera.

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It's all good.

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Amanda,

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we're back on our mini tour like we

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did a year ago.

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We are.

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I was like, it just worked out that way,

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but that's- We just seen

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each other last week.

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Yeah.

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But a year ago,

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we were on this podcast

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with you about Echo-

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Yes.

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We did Socially Distanced,

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and then we did BCP Plus

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for the Royal Rumble,

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and we're going to be doing

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it again this year.

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We can't start the new year

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without going on our tour.

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Yeah, we can't burn ourselves out anymore.

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Come on, let's go.

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So we got one more guy.

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I said we were going to have

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a new guy on tonight.

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I want to introduce

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everybody to our newest council member,

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ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls,

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children and all ages.

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He is a schoolteacher at

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heart and a podcaster by night.

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Mr. Randy Allen, welcome to the show.

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Jeff, thanks for having me.

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And also a pirate by night,

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as you can see.

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I'm coming at you from Tac Renaud's lair.

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Does he know you're in his lair?

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Oh.

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He knows,

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but he's not getting in because

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I'm nestled behind a whole pool of acid.

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I am booby-trapped.

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I am ready to go.

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I am all yours for this entire show.

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Cannot wait to dig into it.

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There's no one who's ever

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going to be nestled behind

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a pool of acid like Randy Lane,

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what can I tell you?

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He's like a puppy in front of a fireplace.

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I wish the food wasn't so rotted,

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but... Well,

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you do have that one glorious ham.

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Oh, yeah.

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You brought a ham sandwich to the party?

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All right, everybody.

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So we're all here tonight.

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We're going to start off

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with James Gunn's Chapter One,

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Gods and Monsters,

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and his first animated

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adventure into his Gods and

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Monsters chapter with Creature Commando.

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So me and Amanda covered the

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first half of this already,

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so we're going to focus on the back half,

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starting with Episode Four, I think,

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is where we'll start with.

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So I know Randy,

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I just put him on the show...

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over the weekend, basically.

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Randy,

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what were your first impressions

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when I said, hey, check the show out?

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So Creature Commandos has

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been on my radar because

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I've been hearing people

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hyping it up ever since

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James Gunn took over.

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And I was like, that sounds cool.

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But I didn't throw it to the

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top of my list because I've

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been on a journey to fill

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in my DC background,

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get to know my DC comic

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world a little bit better.

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But the hype has been real.

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My Media Lit co-host Chris

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Ingersoll is a huge comic guy.

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He was really pumped for this show.

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I know he's been loving it.

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I was just chatting with him

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before I came on here to

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tell him how much I enjoyed the show.

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But yeah,

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I was seeing these characters for

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the first time,

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and I'll be commenting on

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this throughout the night,

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but they carried me away,

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not only through good storytelling,

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but as an English teacher,

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all the big themes

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surrounding monster

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storytelling and the humans

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being the real monsters,

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through these characters,

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I think they hit on every

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major version of that story,

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and it was just a treat.

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So this is a question for everybody.

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How did y'all feel with them

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giving us the backstory of

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each character and fitting

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it to work in the present

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show where we were at per episode?

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How did y'all enjoy that

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with the flashbacks to the

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characters and how they

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became who they were?

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How did y'all like that?

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Amanda, we'll start with you.

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Well, I really enjoyed it.

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I thought,

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because sometimes when you take

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this approach, it could go awry,

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depending on, you know, it's here.

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We see this a lot in anime,

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where you have a ton of

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filler that introduces character too long,

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and there's no point.

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It doesn't ever circle back.

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Boruto, I'm calling you out.

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And, you know, and then you're just like,

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well, what was the whole point?

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What I loved about this was

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you got each character's backstory.

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For those who were not familiar,

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like I was not very

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familiar with Creature

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Commandos outside of, you know,

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I knew who the bride was.

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It's like pop culture context, right?

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For certain characters.

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So, yeah.

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you know,

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just being able to get the

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backstory and they were really,

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really well delivered, well done.

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They were done in a way that

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made you get attached to the characters,

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that made you care about them.

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And then it all came

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together in terms of the

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decisions that were made,

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where the story went.

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And so I feel like they were

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meticulously done and there

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was a strategy behind it.

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And that way,

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when we see them in future projects,

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you know who they are and you care.

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And that, again, very, very well done.

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And more anime should learn

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how to do that.

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AMANDA SCHADE- Amanda always

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steals the show with answers like that.

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Randy, what did you think?

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This is my favorite style of storytelling.

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My love affair with podcasts

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started because I became a

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huge fan of a Lost rewatch podcast.

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And Lost wasn't the first show to do it,

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but that was the structure

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that put that show on the map.

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And while shows have stopped

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trying to be exactly like Lost,

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they are still using that format.

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And whenever it's employed

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properly in any genre,

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it takes off and it works

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and it hits for people.

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even if it's... I'm blanking

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on the name of it.

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That show,

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the Mandy Moore vehicle there

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that just wrapped up.

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This Is Us.

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This Is Us.

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I was going to say Tangles.

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That was the format for that show.

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It's a totally different...

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Totally different genre and audience,

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but when you can ground a

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present moment in that past history,

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it's really powerful.

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Especially for a character I

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didn't know how to wrap my mind around,

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like the Weasel.

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But we'll get to that.

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Yeah,

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that's going to be the very first one

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we cover.

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His was heartbreaking.

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Geez, they started it with... Yeah.

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Bill, what'd you think?

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So, going off what Amanda said,

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there are times where it's just like,

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you're like building towards

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this climax that are like,

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let's take a detour down a backstory.

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And sometimes that works.

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For example,

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Watchmen did a great speaking loss.

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That was a game in Lindelof vehicle.

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And other times it's like,

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when you detour from the main plot,

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it doesn't always work.

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We saw that in Mando.

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We saw that with Boba Fett.

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We saw that.

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And we've seen it like Game

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of Thrones had its problems as well.

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But,

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Sometimes it really hits

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like one of my favorite

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Westworld episodes was when

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they go back to Zach

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McClendon's character.

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He's like a warrior and they

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go and tell his entire

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story and how he got to

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here and then how he gets into Westworld.

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And it's one of the most

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powerful stories going and

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it ties really well into the ending.

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So, but by doing this,

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it's beautiful because like

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with a team of characters,

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like Amanda said,

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characters you don't know,

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you need to find it.

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But James Gunn knows how to do that.

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He knows how to be like,

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here's how this backstory

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is going to perfectly tie

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into this episode.

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And man, he does a beautiful job.

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Every single time.

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Every single time he made it work.

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And another show that did it really well,

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we covered on our last show, Amanda,

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with Agatha.

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The way they did it was really well done.

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yeah that was great yeah so

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let's jump into and talk

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about the weasel story that

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was episode four talk about

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pulling some heartstrings

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his story and how he ended

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up where he did um and just

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the the story that was

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given versus the actual

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story and the drastic

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difference between the two

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That was one of those

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that... It left me like, man,

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that's fucked up.

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The Weasel's actually a good

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dude giving a bad rap by bad people.

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And that goes back to what you said, Randy,

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with who's the real monsters here.

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So how did y'all feel about

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his story overall?

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Was that what y'all expected

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from his story?

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Because I was kind of running with the...

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like oh he he killed some

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kids and that was the

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complete opposite of

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actually what happened

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amanda yeah yeah yeah I I

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didn't I expected it to be

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very good because again the

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bride story set up was

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really good um I think I

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want to say dr phosphorus I

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want to say was that was

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right before weasel

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phosphorus is no he was after later yeah

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But I feel like for me so

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far to that point,

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the bride story had been

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one of my favorites.

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And so I knew that it was

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going to be well done.

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I just didn't expect it to

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be as emotional as it was

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and very heart-wrenching.

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And I feel like it was one

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of the better stories that

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connected to the main plot

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in terms of here's what

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happened with this girl

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that's imprinted in his memory.

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And he sees that in the princess.

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And

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you know,

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it influences his decision to go

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and just blow everyone's cover and do his,

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just cause chaos.

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And I thought that was a

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really well done tie from

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the emotional moment to, okay,

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here's how this all ties together.

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And I think it was one of

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the better backstories that,

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that did a great job of doing that.

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I don't think a walk to

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remember had a backstory.

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That was just a,

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I haven't seen it in so long.

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That was a Mandy Moore vehicle.

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I think that prompted the-

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That was Mandy Moore, wasn't it?

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It was.

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Yes.

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Wasn't that her first- Very

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first movie post her music career.

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Yeah.

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Everybody had a crush on Mandy Moore then.

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I don't care what y'all say.

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Y'all had that crush.

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Thanks for bringing up good memories,

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Chris.

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Yeah.

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All right, Randy, how do you feel?

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No, Bill, Bill, sorry.

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Bill is really willing to chime in.

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Sorry, it's the caffeine or lack thereof.

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I thought that the weasel

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story I knew was going to

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be as tragic as it was going to be.

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Because one,

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James Gunn does love a furry

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creature to have a

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background that's so tragic.

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And also his brother.

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plays the character so I

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figured like yeah he's

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gonna be kind of tragic but

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uh they kept saying he

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killed all these these kids

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and it kept changing and

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I'm just like no he never

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did because it was it was a

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very very you know it's

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easy to blame a monster to

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do something like that and

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we didn't really see much

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of weasels like what he

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could do you know and I

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think like amanda said like

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him tying back to the princess

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the end reminding him of the

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little blonde girl with

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blue eyes that he was

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trying to save was it was

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it was a great moment to

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show the humanity like um

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and that would come into

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the emotion that all three

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of our surviving creature

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commandos have like that

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scene at the end where

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phosphorus puts his hand on

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the bride and that like

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that showed how human they were and how

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Nina really had impacted all of them.

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Like we, we talked about,

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I think it was just like, Nina was like,

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she didn't do much,

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but she actually did change them.

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But yeah.

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And then, you know,

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it's just James gun doesn't hold back.

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We see like, they just shoot a kid.

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Yeah.

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Which is like, that was the part.

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I think that was the most tragic part.

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It was like,

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you see these two guys just

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come in there and they just

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start blasting,

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have no regard for anyone who's there.

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All right, Randy, over to you,

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over to you.

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Yeah, I mean, your head, so.

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Yeah, no, I mean, like we've got, you know,

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Amanda Waller is the

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perfect villain because

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this organization sucks.

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Like they know that they are

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messing with the bounds of morality,

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right?

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Like the whole concept here is like, well,

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they're not really people.

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But it's really hard to make

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that case the more you get

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to know each of the characters.

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Weasel is the one,

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it's maybe the easiest to

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argue that he is not human, right?

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Cause we don't really get

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like his full backstory.

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Like we find out what

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happened with the kids.

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We still don't really know

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if we're non comics readers like myself,

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where he really came from,

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but we know that he has a

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heart in the comic either.

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But the thing,

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in addition to the story of

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the kids and seeing him

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connect with the kids,

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it was that we have his

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defense attorney showing up,

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making this case for his humanity,

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referring to him like his sir, mister,

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calling him Joe by this human name.

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And she sees something in him.

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And yes,

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it's humorous and it's hard to

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continue to sell it as he's

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licking his crotch every three seconds.

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And those eyes are going

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googly in the sides of his

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head at any given moment.

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But yeah, even the weasel is human.

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And I mean,

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he makes the most like heart

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based decision in the

00:15:53.275 --> 00:15:54.836
closing moments of the season, right?

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He's following his heart.

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So yeah, really effective.

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Jeff,

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I have to give you kudos for having

00:16:02.091 --> 00:16:02.831
Randy on here,

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because for those who have

00:16:04.472 --> 00:16:05.592
not listened to Randy,

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I highly encourage you guys

00:16:06.774 --> 00:16:07.774
to check out MediaLit.

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He's one of the most thorough people.

00:16:10.676 --> 00:16:11.397
Attention to detail.

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He's just one of the best people.

00:16:12.837 --> 00:16:14.798
I'm sorry, I know,

00:16:14.839 --> 00:16:16.279
but I have to put him over now.

00:16:16.379 --> 00:16:17.061
I can't help it.

00:16:17.160 --> 00:16:19.662
I'm just excited to even

00:16:20.243 --> 00:16:21.342
selfishly have this chance

00:16:21.363 --> 00:16:22.423
to even talk with Randy

00:16:22.524 --> 00:16:23.384
about Creature Commandos.

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This is why Amanda is such a

00:16:24.445 --> 00:16:26.125
best bud to everyone in the world.

00:16:26.186 --> 00:16:28.067
You are always lifting us up, so thank you,

00:16:28.106 --> 00:16:28.607
Jeff.

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She is the biggest guest of

00:16:30.808 --> 00:16:31.629
the podcast world.

00:16:31.690 --> 00:16:33.230
And Randy, to quote Big Lebowski,

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Randy is a good man.

00:16:34.571 --> 00:16:34.770
Yes.

00:16:34.811 --> 00:16:41.174
That's just like your opinion, man.

00:16:41.754 --> 00:16:43.076
I really bring the room together.

00:16:44.028 --> 00:16:44.327
You do.

00:16:44.347 --> 00:16:44.768
You do.

00:16:44.807 --> 00:16:45.009
You do.

00:16:45.028 --> 00:16:46.669
I like that.

00:16:46.690 --> 00:16:48.431
You bring us all in Tack Runner's lair,

00:16:48.510 --> 00:16:49.331
and I'm here for it.

00:16:49.610 --> 00:16:51.052
So for the past few months,

00:16:51.152 --> 00:16:51.972
me and Randy have been

00:16:52.013 --> 00:16:54.553
going back and forth on like, hey,

00:16:54.573 --> 00:16:55.413
we're going to set something up.

00:16:55.433 --> 00:16:56.315
We're going to set something up.

00:16:56.335 --> 00:16:57.635
And finally, I was just like, damn it,

00:16:57.655 --> 00:16:58.015
Randy.

00:16:58.436 --> 00:16:59.996
We're doing this show on this day.

00:17:00.496 --> 00:17:01.337
You're coming on.

00:17:01.798 --> 00:17:02.678
He's like, okay, well,

00:17:03.058 --> 00:17:03.619
let's come up with

00:17:03.639 --> 00:17:04.700
something for you on my show.

00:17:04.720 --> 00:17:08.521
I'm like, okay, what about this and that?

00:17:08.541 --> 00:17:09.082
I'm like, you know what?

00:17:09.162 --> 00:17:10.323
Let's just circle back later.

00:17:11.780 --> 00:17:12.480
so we're going to circle

00:17:12.500 --> 00:17:13.721
back later on I'm going to

00:17:13.741 --> 00:17:15.001
come on the media lit later

00:17:15.741 --> 00:17:17.342
but this this episode is

00:17:17.362 --> 00:17:18.962
the one that like this one

00:17:18.982 --> 00:17:20.202
in the last one really

00:17:20.242 --> 00:17:22.183
although two that I was

00:17:22.203 --> 00:17:23.864
like damn you james gunn

00:17:24.903 --> 00:17:27.384
hitting me in my feels but

00:17:27.404 --> 00:17:29.704
yeah man because for those

00:17:29.744 --> 00:17:30.726
who don't know this show

00:17:30.766 --> 00:17:31.905
picked up immediately

00:17:32.306 --> 00:17:34.807
following what happened in

00:17:34.826 --> 00:17:36.346
the original suicide squad

00:17:37.489 --> 00:17:38.628
And then it just like the

00:17:38.709 --> 00:17:40.829
very next this happens next

00:17:41.430 --> 00:17:43.871
in that ongoing thing there.

00:17:44.651 --> 00:17:47.291
So but we're going to go on

00:17:47.852 --> 00:17:48.632
the next episode.

00:17:48.711 --> 00:17:52.192
We got the Frankenstein episode, actually,

00:17:52.373 --> 00:17:53.353
where he was nursed back to

00:17:53.393 --> 00:17:55.153
health and later.

00:17:57.634 --> 00:18:00.154
Reprieved her of her life, we'll say,

00:18:01.536 --> 00:18:02.635
as he continued on his

00:18:02.695 --> 00:18:06.176
journey to find his bride.

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So.

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And also,

00:18:08.856 --> 00:18:10.137
this is the one where we find out

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Cersei's visions about the

00:18:12.157 --> 00:18:15.338
princess were false.

00:18:15.878 --> 00:18:17.259
Because Clayface,

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we get our appearance by Clayface,

00:18:21.101 --> 00:18:24.340
took over the original Doctor's identity.

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How exciting were y'all to

00:18:27.422 --> 00:18:29.462
see Clayface in this?

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And yes,

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I'm petting a cat like I'm an evil

00:18:33.057 --> 00:18:34.057
mad scientist.

00:18:35.198 --> 00:18:38.499
Look at this pretty face.

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Do you not want to pet her too?

00:18:41.259 --> 00:18:41.621
You going to go?

00:18:42.601 --> 00:18:45.362
Yep, she's going to go back to playing.

00:18:45.382 --> 00:18:46.261
She made her appearance.

00:18:46.843 --> 00:18:47.262
She did.

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I saved everybody the

00:18:48.702 --> 00:18:49.644
embarrassment of having to

00:18:49.663 --> 00:18:50.483
look at her butt because

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that was the very first

00:18:51.624 --> 00:18:54.346
thing she would have done.

00:18:54.465 --> 00:18:54.846
Same.

00:18:56.145 --> 00:18:57.767
Would have honored the weasel segment.

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she does that like they both

00:19:02.672 --> 00:19:05.192
will do it give it time the

00:19:05.212 --> 00:19:06.292
other one will make his

00:19:06.333 --> 00:19:07.834
appearance as well bill

00:19:07.874 --> 00:19:09.094
we'll start with you on

00:19:09.213 --> 00:19:11.355
this one how cool what is

00:19:11.394 --> 00:19:13.855
it seeing clay face make

00:19:13.875 --> 00:19:16.155
his appearance in this it

00:19:16.195 --> 00:19:17.436
was cool but also a little

00:19:17.616 --> 00:19:18.517
head scratching because

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this was one of the issues

00:19:19.738 --> 00:19:20.738
that I had with creature

00:19:20.758 --> 00:19:21.657
commandos but I'll get to

00:19:21.678 --> 00:19:22.759
the negative before the

00:19:22.778 --> 00:19:26.140
positive before the negative um uh

00:19:27.662 --> 00:19:28.462
Clayface is one of my

00:19:28.502 --> 00:19:30.324
all-time favorite Batman

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the Animated Series films,

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played by Ron Perlman.

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Or Ron Perlman in the original series.

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And then brought back.

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I don't know if anyone

00:19:40.469 --> 00:19:42.710
watched the Batman animated

00:19:42.750 --> 00:19:44.951
series that was on Amazon.

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That was terrific.

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I have not seen it yet.

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That's on my to-do list.

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Thank you, Calvin.

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Oh, hey, Calvin.

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What's up?

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Yeah,

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I have to do my homework now for a

00:19:57.201 --> 00:19:58.642
Royal Rumble podcast because he's on it.

00:20:00.515 --> 00:20:01.056
and Amanda.

00:20:01.296 --> 00:20:02.676
But we have our separate homework.

00:20:04.298 --> 00:20:06.200
And it's like all these

00:20:06.240 --> 00:20:07.280
different interpretations

00:20:07.461 --> 00:20:08.481
of him as an actor.

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And then he announced Mike

00:20:10.002 --> 00:20:11.545
Flanagan's doing a Clayface movie.

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I've never seen any Mike Flanagan work.

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Doctor Sleep, Bly Manor,

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House on Haunted Hill.

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Phenomenal.

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You know what I'm talking about.

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I'll follow the House of Usher.

00:20:23.075 --> 00:20:23.615
Oh, great stuff.

00:20:23.654 --> 00:20:24.336
So I'm excited.

00:20:24.355 --> 00:20:25.356
House of Usher, man.

00:20:25.977 --> 00:20:26.897
I got through two episodes.

00:20:26.917 --> 00:20:27.459
I had to stop.

00:20:28.123 --> 00:20:29.963
dude did you not finish it

00:20:30.044 --> 00:20:30.923
no it was a little too no

00:20:30.943 --> 00:20:31.624
go back oh you got to go

00:20:31.644 --> 00:20:34.345
back yeah there's there's

00:20:34.365 --> 00:20:35.384
that's one of those where

00:20:35.464 --> 00:20:36.464
amanda knows that that

00:20:36.484 --> 00:20:37.705
history of the long list of

00:20:37.746 --> 00:20:38.445
the shows bill has to

00:20:38.526 --> 00:20:40.866
finish we'll move on but it

00:20:40.946 --> 00:20:43.166
is it is it was great to

00:20:43.207 --> 00:20:44.327
see the character there

00:20:44.867 --> 00:20:45.728
because it didn't make

00:20:45.807 --> 00:20:47.188
sense at first just like

00:20:47.327 --> 00:20:49.068
why is the stephanie beatrice character

00:20:50.318 --> 00:20:51.140
like all of a sudden goes

00:20:51.160 --> 00:20:52.240
from so buttoned up to just

00:20:52.259 --> 00:20:55.442
screaming lesbians to my

00:20:55.481 --> 00:20:57.502
favorite reaction not

00:20:57.722 --> 00:20:58.983
Amanda's favorite reaction

00:20:59.003 --> 00:21:00.564
which is great but like

00:21:00.785 --> 00:21:01.785
Frankenstein going well

00:21:01.805 --> 00:21:02.464
that's not very

00:21:02.505 --> 00:21:04.727
professional I don't know

00:21:04.767 --> 00:21:06.688
why that just like set me

00:21:06.748 --> 00:21:09.068
sideways but I loved seeing

00:21:09.088 --> 00:21:11.890
the character but it was it

00:21:11.990 --> 00:21:12.730
adds to something we'll

00:21:12.750 --> 00:21:13.411
talk about later the

00:21:13.451 --> 00:21:14.632
motivations of the princess

00:21:14.672 --> 00:21:16.633
by impersonating that so

00:21:17.032 --> 00:21:19.213
it's cool within the world

00:21:20.057 --> 00:21:22.819
but within the finale is a

00:21:22.859 --> 00:21:24.441
little murky for me so

00:21:24.961 --> 00:21:29.085
excited but uh the little I

00:21:29.105 --> 00:21:29.945
had a couple I had a couple

00:21:29.986 --> 00:21:34.830
issues with it randy what'd

00:21:34.871 --> 00:21:35.651
you think yeah I don't have

00:21:35.730 --> 00:21:37.393
as as deep a history with

00:21:37.432 --> 00:21:39.055
the clay face character so

00:21:39.134 --> 00:21:41.497
like I think for you this

00:21:41.537 --> 00:21:42.657
character is like

00:21:43.846 --> 00:21:45.067
Oh, yeah.

00:21:45.086 --> 00:21:45.846
What I was going to say, Bill,

00:21:45.866 --> 00:21:46.807
is I agree with you.

00:21:47.048 --> 00:21:48.929
That Caped Crusader version,

00:21:49.028 --> 00:21:49.890
I really loved.

00:21:50.390 --> 00:21:51.730
All these different takes on

00:21:52.311 --> 00:21:54.133
the failed or the struggling actor.

00:21:55.433 --> 00:21:57.595
So here he's firing up the Xbox,

00:21:58.355 --> 00:22:00.096
which was kind of a fun gag and joke.

00:22:00.497 --> 00:22:03.078
So I liked it on the level of like, okay,

00:22:04.200 --> 00:22:05.000
we're bringing in this

00:22:05.039 --> 00:22:06.280
Batman world to this

00:22:06.340 --> 00:22:08.182
property that I'm less familiar with.

00:22:08.201 --> 00:22:09.343
So in terms of that thrill,

00:22:09.442 --> 00:22:10.544
I love a crossover.

00:22:11.163 --> 00:22:13.265
that got me excited um and

00:22:13.285 --> 00:22:14.185
you know like we'll get to

00:22:14.205 --> 00:22:15.586
this when we get to the dr

00:22:15.626 --> 00:22:16.926
phosphorus episode but that

00:22:17.027 --> 00:22:18.567
that opens in a moment that

00:22:18.627 --> 00:22:19.749
feels like batman the

00:22:19.808 --> 00:22:21.849
animated series um and of

00:22:21.869 --> 00:22:22.730
course we get like the

00:22:22.770 --> 00:22:24.832
flash of batman later on so

00:22:24.912 --> 00:22:26.393
in in terms of the world

00:22:26.432 --> 00:22:27.574
getting bigger I loved it

00:22:28.334 --> 00:22:29.835
um but yeah not as engaging

00:22:29.914 --> 00:22:30.875
as other takes on the

00:22:30.914 --> 00:22:33.017
character I've seen amanda

00:22:35.151 --> 00:22:35.991
I enjoyed seeing him.

00:22:36.672 --> 00:22:36.972
I did.

00:22:37.353 --> 00:22:38.814
I also grew up with Batman

00:22:38.894 --> 00:22:39.855
animated series kid.

00:22:40.315 --> 00:22:41.675
We all did.

00:22:41.836 --> 00:22:42.836
We were, we were raised right.

00:22:43.258 --> 00:22:44.378
Um, in a good time.

00:22:44.858 --> 00:22:47.580
And, uh, you know, it, it,

00:22:47.681 --> 00:22:49.021
it was great to see him,

00:22:49.282 --> 00:22:50.864
but I wish we would have gotten more.

00:22:51.443 --> 00:22:54.346
It just felt, um, sometimes a little bit,

00:22:54.567 --> 00:22:55.488
you know, I'm kind of on,

00:22:55.887 --> 00:22:56.627
I'm there with bill.

00:22:57.009 --> 00:22:57.128
Um,

00:22:57.909 --> 00:22:59.230
I wanted more Clayface and I

00:22:59.269 --> 00:23:00.910
wanted a little bit more of

00:23:00.930 --> 00:23:02.191
a reason why he was there.

00:23:02.230 --> 00:23:03.010
Sometimes I felt like,

00:23:03.671 --> 00:23:04.351
I don't think the intent

00:23:04.371 --> 00:23:05.231
was for him to be kind of a

00:23:05.251 --> 00:23:06.471
gratuitous promo, but,

00:23:06.491 --> 00:23:08.833
or like a gratuitous, like, you know, Hey,

00:23:08.853 --> 00:23:09.292
here you go.

00:23:09.512 --> 00:23:10.993
You want to, you guys wanted a cameo.

00:23:12.074 --> 00:23:12.634
Here you go.

00:23:13.153 --> 00:23:16.276
But I'm sure there's a purpose.

00:23:16.296 --> 00:23:17.316
That was a good,

00:23:17.756 --> 00:23:18.915
good one to bring in that

00:23:18.935 --> 00:23:21.997
would fit with what he was

00:23:22.037 --> 00:23:23.238
doing with this series.

00:23:23.317 --> 00:23:23.478
Yeah.

00:23:24.330 --> 00:23:26.271
And it wasn't a bad, it was not bad.

00:23:26.291 --> 00:23:27.011
I'm glad we got him.

00:23:27.112 --> 00:23:27.873
I just wish we had gotten

00:23:27.913 --> 00:23:29.573
more and a little bit more of,

00:23:29.712 --> 00:23:30.634
especially with the way the

00:23:30.673 --> 00:23:32.855
finale ended too,

00:23:33.315 --> 00:23:33.954
it left a lot more

00:23:33.994 --> 00:23:35.855
questions than answers.

00:23:35.976 --> 00:23:37.056
And I'm sure hopefully when

00:23:37.076 --> 00:23:37.876
we get the second one,

00:23:38.076 --> 00:23:39.317
maybe we'll get a better backstory.

00:23:39.336 --> 00:23:40.478
Maybe we'll get more Clayface.

00:23:40.857 --> 00:23:41.877
I just felt like his

00:23:42.077 --> 00:23:43.398
appearance was abrupt.

00:23:44.019 --> 00:23:44.759
And it was like, here he is.

00:23:44.939 --> 00:23:45.559
Oh, that's great.

00:23:45.779 --> 00:23:46.920
Oh, shit, he's gone.

00:23:47.680 --> 00:23:49.780
Like, oh.

00:23:50.240 --> 00:23:51.801
He's never really gone, though.

00:23:51.821 --> 00:23:53.501
Yeah, but I wanted him to come back.

00:23:53.521 --> 00:23:55.022
Just kind of like the Sandman, you know?

00:23:55.042 --> 00:23:57.284
Yeah, this is true.

00:23:57.864 --> 00:24:02.265
Drinking beers, running through crowds.

00:24:02.305 --> 00:24:02.644
You know,

00:24:02.684 --> 00:24:03.925
hitting on the et spots and

00:24:04.586 --> 00:24:05.886
screaming lesbian at the

00:24:05.926 --> 00:24:06.787
top of our lungs.

00:24:08.373 --> 00:24:12.194
But so how did y'all feel about this,

00:24:12.756 --> 00:24:13.256
what they did with

00:24:13.296 --> 00:24:14.977
Frankenstein in this episode?

00:24:15.698 --> 00:24:16.498
And kind of like,

00:24:16.577 --> 00:24:18.739
I don't want to say it was a,

00:24:18.778 --> 00:24:24.423
it was a chapter of his life that in this,

00:24:24.462 --> 00:24:25.523
the way they did it here,

00:24:26.923 --> 00:24:28.645
I don't know how I felt about it really.

00:24:28.766 --> 00:24:29.465
You know what I'm saying?

00:24:29.526 --> 00:24:29.806
Like,

00:24:31.406 --> 00:24:32.728
it felt like it didn't really fit

00:24:33.028 --> 00:24:34.249
with what they were doing

00:24:34.409 --> 00:24:35.509
with the rest of the series,

00:24:35.730 --> 00:24:37.050
if that is making sense at all.

00:24:37.756 --> 00:24:38.355
Probably not.

00:24:39.356 --> 00:24:39.616
Like,

00:24:39.817 --> 00:24:41.258
the way they did his backstory with

00:24:41.298 --> 00:24:42.659
him getting nursed back to

00:24:42.679 --> 00:24:44.319
health after being nearly killed.

00:24:44.599 --> 00:24:46.020
Well, he can't really die, I guess.

00:24:47.422 --> 00:24:50.884
But, and then, you know,

00:24:51.443 --> 00:24:52.884
killing the person who helped him.

00:24:53.326 --> 00:24:54.306
That was very on par for

00:24:54.326 --> 00:24:55.926
Frankenstein from the comic book as well,

00:24:56.007 --> 00:24:56.407
by the way.

00:24:57.167 --> 00:24:58.368
Just the random, like...

00:24:59.019 --> 00:24:59.759
Right.

00:24:59.778 --> 00:25:00.779
But what was your issue with

00:25:00.819 --> 00:25:01.880
it in the series, though?

00:25:02.140 --> 00:25:02.941
That's curious because you

00:25:02.961 --> 00:25:04.520
say it was it was this episode.

00:25:05.521 --> 00:25:07.162
The way they did his backstory.

00:25:07.182 --> 00:25:08.883
And I'm not really saying

00:25:08.923 --> 00:25:09.884
that was his backstory in

00:25:09.903 --> 00:25:11.243
that one episode.

00:25:11.743 --> 00:25:12.904
It just didn't feel like it

00:25:12.944 --> 00:25:15.526
provided the same substance

00:25:15.766 --> 00:25:18.126
as the other like flashback

00:25:18.146 --> 00:25:20.367
sequences did for the other characters.

00:25:21.538 --> 00:25:22.781
I think we got more of his

00:25:22.842 --> 00:25:25.307
story during the Brides

00:25:26.869 --> 00:25:28.994
episode than we did in his own episode,

00:25:29.154 --> 00:25:30.176
if that's making sense.

00:25:32.195 --> 00:25:33.017
get I get where you're

00:25:33.037 --> 00:25:35.417
coming from yeah that makes

00:25:35.438 --> 00:25:37.460
sense that makes sense but

00:25:37.500 --> 00:25:38.440
I think it's I think it's

00:25:38.480 --> 00:25:39.760
intentional though because

00:25:40.201 --> 00:25:43.183
I'm sure because he so it's

00:25:43.203 --> 00:25:45.786
david harper and yes

00:25:45.826 --> 00:25:47.287
doesn't love that guy and

00:25:47.326 --> 00:25:48.366
amanda what's the best line

00:25:48.406 --> 00:25:49.567
he said throughout the

00:25:49.807 --> 00:25:51.529
whole thing delphi piece of

00:25:53.523 --> 00:25:54.805
I'll have that I'm gonna

00:25:54.825 --> 00:25:56.066
have that etched on my

00:25:56.105 --> 00:25:59.229
tombstone uh it's saved his

00:25:59.269 --> 00:26:00.789
family from a sinking ship

00:26:00.849 --> 00:26:02.391
that filthy son of a uh

00:26:03.412 --> 00:26:04.232
cannon bombs reference

00:26:04.252 --> 00:26:06.855
bravo yeah well played uh

00:26:08.076 --> 00:26:10.198
it is um because it's david

00:26:10.238 --> 00:26:11.157
harbour so it's like we

00:26:11.318 --> 00:26:12.579
genuinely like david

00:26:12.619 --> 00:26:13.961
harbour he's very funny

00:26:15.070 --> 00:26:15.932
I think it's done this way

00:26:15.951 --> 00:26:17.873
because it's like he is not redeemable.

00:26:18.073 --> 00:26:18.653
He is.

00:26:18.673 --> 00:26:20.013
No, he's trash.

00:26:20.054 --> 00:26:22.255
Like he is a horrible person.

00:26:22.414 --> 00:26:23.016
I'm sorry.

00:26:23.195 --> 00:26:25.436
I have a creature behind me is.

00:26:26.517 --> 00:26:29.179
Yeah, he's he's he's stalking the bride.

00:26:29.638 --> 00:26:31.180
He killed this woman who is

00:26:31.319 --> 00:26:32.461
obviously trying to save him.

00:26:32.881 --> 00:26:34.382
He's not a good guy.

00:26:35.792 --> 00:26:36.614
yeah and so I think that's

00:26:36.733 --> 00:26:38.256
that's why it can't be as a

00:26:38.276 --> 00:26:39.356
pack because we don't want

00:26:39.376 --> 00:26:40.739
to say we can't sympathize

00:26:40.759 --> 00:26:41.779
with this guy even though

00:26:41.799 --> 00:26:43.882
we want to we just can't

00:26:43.922 --> 00:26:45.703
yeah yeah he's in he's an

00:26:45.903 --> 00:26:49.186
incel given creature powers

00:26:49.426 --> 00:26:51.148
right yes and I was a

00:26:51.169 --> 00:26:52.130
little surprised when he

00:26:52.170 --> 00:26:53.471
killed his caretaker at the

00:26:53.551 --> 00:26:55.272
end because it did seem

00:26:55.292 --> 00:26:56.775
like she opened up his eyes

00:26:56.795 --> 00:26:58.416
a little bit to you know you can

00:26:58.896 --> 00:27:00.057
taken the world in different

00:27:00.096 --> 00:27:01.258
ways and see beauty in

00:27:01.298 --> 00:27:02.897
different ways and when I

00:27:02.938 --> 00:27:03.938
was trying to explain it to

00:27:03.978 --> 00:27:05.018
myself at the end I think

00:27:05.077 --> 00:27:07.278
it came down to he is so

00:27:07.378 --> 00:27:08.959
set in these beliefs about

00:27:09.019 --> 00:27:10.160
how he thinks the world is

00:27:10.200 --> 00:27:11.599
supposed to be structured

00:27:12.259 --> 00:27:13.579
that he was like oh like

00:27:13.599 --> 00:27:14.400
you know she was not

00:27:14.460 --> 00:27:15.760
hunting with this shotgun

00:27:15.780 --> 00:27:17.121
before I came in so now

00:27:17.161 --> 00:27:18.540
she's not going to survive

00:27:18.580 --> 00:27:19.402
and like he seems to be

00:27:19.461 --> 00:27:21.281
selling it as a mercy killing

00:27:21.721 --> 00:27:24.003
Like, this woman can't be left alone,

00:27:24.084 --> 00:27:26.125
or it won't be an okay existence for her.

00:27:26.566 --> 00:27:27.968
I'm not here to take care of her.

00:27:28.008 --> 00:27:28.528
And yeah,

00:27:28.607 --> 00:27:29.929
it shows how manic and

00:27:29.969 --> 00:27:31.510
controlling that energy is

00:27:32.332 --> 00:27:33.231
on a whole new level,

00:27:33.492 --> 00:27:34.993
even beyond him chasing the bride.

00:27:35.013 --> 00:27:38.596
Yeah, because the bride is solely his.

00:27:38.636 --> 00:27:40.238
She was made for me.

00:27:40.298 --> 00:27:42.740
Yeah,

00:27:42.760 --> 00:27:44.321
they definitely undercut it with humor,

00:27:44.382 --> 00:27:46.064
too, when he was like... Like,

00:27:46.104 --> 00:27:47.044
you had he rips...

00:27:47.951 --> 00:27:49.953
he rips Victor von Frankenstein in half.

00:27:50.513 --> 00:27:51.454
And then we go on this

00:27:51.575 --> 00:27:54.557
musical montage of her

00:27:54.717 --> 00:27:57.118
beating him up through generations,

00:27:57.138 --> 00:27:58.641
which is funny,

00:27:59.421 --> 00:28:00.862
but I think it's also not funny.

00:28:00.882 --> 00:28:01.001
Yeah.

00:28:01.303 --> 00:28:01.563
Yeah.

00:28:03.553 --> 00:28:04.394
Amanda,

00:28:04.574 --> 00:28:05.755
you've never met a guy like that

00:28:05.775 --> 00:28:06.275
before in your life.

00:28:06.674 --> 00:28:07.556
Oh, no.

00:28:07.655 --> 00:28:08.276
Not at all.

00:28:08.296 --> 00:28:13.559
How did you feel about Frankenstein?

00:28:13.619 --> 00:28:13.799
Oh, man.

00:28:14.140 --> 00:28:15.181
I had some flashbacks.

00:28:16.000 --> 00:28:17.021
You told me.

00:28:17.801 --> 00:28:18.323
Yeah.

00:28:19.163 --> 00:28:20.483
I had a type in my twenties, y'all.

00:28:23.205 --> 00:28:24.267
You don't say.

00:28:24.547 --> 00:28:25.827
That's why the story works.

00:28:26.407 --> 00:28:29.730
Yeah, this is true.

00:28:29.830 --> 00:28:32.354
You know, I just... So what,

00:28:32.374 --> 00:28:34.174
you were into guys who were

00:28:34.275 --> 00:28:36.116
sewn together from different cadavers?

00:28:36.156 --> 00:28:36.998
That's wild, dude.

00:28:37.097 --> 00:28:37.258
No,

00:28:37.278 --> 00:28:38.900
that actually would have been better

00:28:38.920 --> 00:28:39.539
than some of them.

00:28:43.144 --> 00:28:44.326
I'm not afraid to throw shade here.

00:28:44.346 --> 00:28:46.169
I'm not afraid at all.

00:28:46.189 --> 00:28:46.970
Some of y'all are watching

00:28:46.990 --> 00:28:47.691
in the live stream.

00:28:48.090 --> 00:28:48.893
You're welcome.

00:28:49.192 --> 00:28:49.753
You're welcome.

00:28:49.794 --> 00:28:50.755
Y'all, uh,

00:28:50.775 --> 00:28:51.797
those who weren't around in the

00:28:51.876 --> 00:28:52.597
early two thousands,

00:28:52.617 --> 00:28:54.780
this shit was wild y'all.

00:28:55.201 --> 00:28:55.623
Yeah.

00:28:55.742 --> 00:28:56.564
I'm just saying y'all.

00:28:57.125 --> 00:28:58.227
Um, but, uh,

00:28:58.866 --> 00:29:00.909
In all reality, though, to Bill's point,

00:29:00.989 --> 00:29:02.690
I think it was very intentional because,

00:29:02.890 --> 00:29:03.289
yeah,

00:29:03.390 --> 00:29:05.310
David Harbour is a very likable guy.

00:29:05.431 --> 00:29:06.451
And there are moments where, like,

00:29:06.471 --> 00:29:09.054
the humor in this, like, from him, again,

00:29:09.094 --> 00:29:10.013
like, we're best friends.

00:29:10.174 --> 00:29:10.815
Are we best friends?

00:29:10.835 --> 00:29:11.816
Like, I'm like, man,

00:29:12.155 --> 00:29:13.416
sometimes you have those conversations.

00:29:13.477 --> 00:29:17.159
His interactions with General,

00:29:17.179 --> 00:29:17.558
what's his name?

00:29:17.578 --> 00:29:17.839
With Rick.

00:29:17.859 --> 00:29:18.259
Yeah, Rick Flag.

00:29:18.339 --> 00:29:19.200
With Rick Flag Sr.

00:29:19.220 --> 00:29:19.740
were great.

00:29:19.881 --> 00:29:20.540
And it's just like.

00:29:20.621 --> 00:29:21.821
That episode was phenomenal

00:29:21.842 --> 00:29:22.883
with just the two of them.

00:29:23.343 --> 00:29:23.502
Yeah.

00:29:23.522 --> 00:29:24.604
When they discovered Clayface.

00:29:24.624 --> 00:29:26.025
That was amazing.

00:29:26.065 --> 00:29:26.285
Yeah.

00:29:26.584 --> 00:29:29.086
Well, and you're supposed to, I feel like,

00:29:29.566 --> 00:29:30.586
you know, one, remember,

00:29:30.707 --> 00:29:31.887
he's unredeemable, too.

00:29:31.988 --> 00:29:33.888
That was a great point, to Bill's point.

00:29:34.808 --> 00:29:35.450
I'm here for that.

00:29:36.891 --> 00:29:38.291
You know, because, again, with the humor,

00:29:38.451 --> 00:29:40.192
you find out, like, oh, he's likable.

00:29:40.232 --> 00:29:41.173
And no, no,

00:29:41.213 --> 00:29:43.295
he's actually kind of a terrible person.

00:29:44.056 --> 00:29:44.336
Yeah.

00:29:45.557 --> 00:29:46.758
But I think, too,

00:29:46.858 --> 00:29:47.618
you're supposed to have

00:29:47.659 --> 00:29:48.539
sympathy for the bride

00:29:48.579 --> 00:29:50.082
because she is going to be the leader.

00:29:50.182 --> 00:29:51.182
And eventually,

00:29:51.304 --> 00:29:52.003
and they're setting up for

00:29:52.044 --> 00:29:53.605
this conflict because eventually,

00:29:53.645 --> 00:29:54.507
from what I understand,

00:29:54.547 --> 00:29:55.669
Frankenstein is one of the

00:29:55.689 --> 00:29:57.049
creature commandos, too.

00:29:57.631 --> 00:29:58.811
So you're setting up for...

00:30:00.133 --> 00:30:02.095
that future dynamic to work

00:30:02.214 --> 00:30:04.476
to to um kind of see where

00:30:04.496 --> 00:30:05.717
that goes and it creates

00:30:05.737 --> 00:30:07.919
can they coexist and carry

00:30:07.939 --> 00:30:09.019
out missions and all of

00:30:09.078 --> 00:30:10.460
that and that's setting up

00:30:10.480 --> 00:30:11.461
the dynamic for people who

00:30:11.500 --> 00:30:12.721
maybe are not as familiar

00:30:12.761 --> 00:30:13.821
with creature commanders

00:30:13.862 --> 00:30:15.483
and maybe have the only

00:30:15.624 --> 00:30:17.085
background they have is

00:30:17.244 --> 00:30:18.244
what we we've gotten in

00:30:18.305 --> 00:30:19.926
previous works involving

00:30:20.007 --> 00:30:21.126
Frankenstein and the bride

00:30:21.748 --> 00:30:23.229
um so you're you're getting

00:30:23.269 --> 00:30:23.949
this narrative the

00:30:23.989 --> 00:30:25.809
storytelling built and

00:30:25.849 --> 00:30:26.891
again you see the bride

00:30:26.911 --> 00:30:29.212
you're meant to see the bride as strong

00:30:30.153 --> 00:30:33.577
independent leader material who, yeah,

00:30:33.657 --> 00:30:35.019
she's done some terrible things,

00:30:35.560 --> 00:30:38.124
but you kind of like her.

00:30:38.305 --> 00:30:39.566
The terrible that she did

00:30:39.605 --> 00:30:43.932
was for better reasons than what

00:30:45.346 --> 00:30:47.008
you know frankenstein did

00:30:47.028 --> 00:30:47.788
exactly and I think that

00:30:47.828 --> 00:30:49.369
was the point was you're

00:30:49.410 --> 00:30:50.971
supposed to buy it made you

00:30:51.030 --> 00:30:52.573
buy the bride more as a

00:30:52.692 --> 00:30:54.013
leader and and be more

00:30:54.034 --> 00:30:55.535
involved in her story also

00:30:55.555 --> 00:30:57.296
seen through bullshit yeah

00:30:57.615 --> 00:30:58.997
but you need the you need

00:30:59.037 --> 00:31:01.378
that that foil if you will

00:31:01.439 --> 00:31:02.759
or you need that character

00:31:03.059 --> 00:31:04.480
to make that known and you

00:31:04.561 --> 00:31:06.103
really sink into her story

00:31:06.123 --> 00:31:07.723
because of how crappy of a

00:31:07.763 --> 00:31:09.986
person he is um yeah

00:31:10.685 --> 00:31:13.009
But yet, the humor mixed in, too,

00:31:13.128 --> 00:31:13.950
and his personality.

00:31:14.510 --> 00:31:16.011
You also have to accept him

00:31:16.053 --> 00:31:17.314
as part of Creature Commandos.

00:31:17.413 --> 00:31:19.477
You can't go too far off where you're like,

00:31:19.576 --> 00:31:20.538
I can't accept him at all.

00:31:20.637 --> 00:31:21.578
He's horrible.

00:31:21.659 --> 00:31:23.121
I kind of have to like him a little bit,

00:31:23.721 --> 00:31:24.281
a little bit,

00:31:24.321 --> 00:31:27.425
to buy him as part of this dynamic.

00:31:27.465 --> 00:31:27.705
Right.

00:31:29.548 --> 00:31:30.269
At the end of the day,

00:31:30.288 --> 00:31:31.410
they're both the twisted

00:31:31.450 --> 00:31:33.432
creations of Victor.

00:31:33.932 --> 00:31:35.434
And as much as the bride had

00:31:35.494 --> 00:31:36.476
some feelings for him and

00:31:36.496 --> 00:31:37.916
she wants to go back for that necklace,

00:31:38.017 --> 00:31:39.858
it's pretty fucked up that

00:31:39.900 --> 00:31:42.301
he built this woman,

00:31:42.422 --> 00:31:43.282
referred to himself

00:31:43.303 --> 00:31:45.184
basically as her mother, raised her,

00:31:45.204 --> 00:31:46.807
and then he's sleeping with her.

00:31:46.866 --> 00:31:47.067
Like,

00:31:48.067 --> 00:31:49.208
I suspect this version of

00:31:49.248 --> 00:31:50.268
the bride can see how

00:31:50.327 --> 00:31:52.249
screwed up that is now as well,

00:31:52.348 --> 00:31:54.568
even if it was a happy time

00:31:54.648 --> 00:31:55.489
for her in some ways.

00:31:55.509 --> 00:31:56.950
You kind of got that in her

00:31:57.009 --> 00:31:58.470
flashback episode as well,

00:31:58.529 --> 00:31:59.289
where she was kind of

00:31:59.329 --> 00:32:01.170
like... I think it

00:32:01.250 --> 00:32:02.431
finally... Finding the

00:32:02.490 --> 00:32:03.810
necklace itself was kind of

00:32:03.851 --> 00:32:06.391
like... And then when it broke,

00:32:06.490 --> 00:32:07.391
that's when she was kind of like,

00:32:07.411 --> 00:32:08.491
you know what?

00:32:08.531 --> 00:32:09.771
This probably wasn't my good

00:32:09.832 --> 00:32:11.551
situation I was in here either.

00:32:13.071 --> 00:32:15.472
But let's go to probably...

00:32:17.150 --> 00:32:18.750
As far as the main core goes,

00:32:18.790 --> 00:32:19.471
this is probably one of

00:32:19.491 --> 00:32:21.512
my... He's up there for me,

00:32:21.593 --> 00:32:23.634
and that's Dr. Phosphorus' episode.

00:32:26.778 --> 00:32:27.278
Basically,

00:32:27.317 --> 00:32:30.339
we find out that he had been

00:32:30.380 --> 00:32:31.780
taking money from the Mafia

00:32:31.800 --> 00:32:33.702
to fund his research.

00:32:36.684 --> 00:32:38.606
Basically, they come for his money,

00:32:38.646 --> 00:32:39.748
I believe is what it was.

00:32:40.327 --> 00:32:41.308
They stick him in his own

00:32:41.348 --> 00:32:42.670
machine and nuke his ass.

00:32:44.324 --> 00:32:45.204
Only you didn't kill him.

00:32:46.105 --> 00:32:47.406
You left at the part where

00:32:47.426 --> 00:32:50.429
they horribly murder his family.

00:32:51.269 --> 00:32:52.770
Yes, there was that part too.

00:32:52.810 --> 00:32:54.071
Yes, I forgot all about that.

00:32:54.772 --> 00:32:56.794
I mean, that might have been a good thing.

00:32:56.834 --> 00:32:57.714
Sorry.

00:32:57.934 --> 00:32:59.477
Yeah.

00:32:59.497 --> 00:33:00.998
They did kill his family and

00:33:01.018 --> 00:33:01.838
then nuke him.

00:33:02.798 --> 00:33:04.300
Expecting it to kill him,

00:33:05.442 --> 00:33:06.362
which it did not.

00:33:08.163 --> 00:33:08.463
Instead,

00:33:08.503 --> 00:33:11.646
we get this awesome character in

00:33:11.707 --> 00:33:12.968
Dr. Phosphorus now.

00:33:13.997 --> 00:33:21.338
And this dude, a special, special human.

00:33:21.358 --> 00:33:22.779
And perfect for this team.

00:33:23.819 --> 00:33:25.500
I mean, is he leadership material?

00:33:25.760 --> 00:33:26.060
No.

00:33:26.921 --> 00:33:29.422
But is he there with the bride like, hey,

00:33:29.461 --> 00:33:30.422
we have the mission.

00:33:31.182 --> 00:33:32.103
Let's get the mission done.

00:33:33.462 --> 00:33:35.403
So what was y'all's,

00:33:36.183 --> 00:33:37.763
how did y'all see Dr. Phosphorus?

00:33:38.144 --> 00:33:39.964
Like, because his one thing is like,

00:33:41.481 --> 00:33:42.042
His family.

00:33:42.343 --> 00:33:44.003
That was it for him.

00:33:44.023 --> 00:33:45.105
That was taken from him.

00:33:45.846 --> 00:33:46.926
Hell bent on revenge.

00:33:47.067 --> 00:33:48.208
Gets his revenge and then

00:33:48.228 --> 00:33:51.851
goes on this almost trying

00:33:51.871 --> 00:33:52.951
to think of another Batman

00:33:52.971 --> 00:33:54.012
character that kind of did

00:33:54.053 --> 00:33:55.314
something similar to this.

00:33:55.534 --> 00:33:57.776
I know the Penguin had done

00:33:57.816 --> 00:33:58.696
it a few times where they

00:33:58.717 --> 00:34:01.519
just like a night out on

00:34:01.538 --> 00:34:03.060
the town that just never ends.

00:34:03.320 --> 00:34:04.142
You know what I'm saying?

00:34:05.103 --> 00:34:06.703
Before eventually getting captured.

00:34:08.485 --> 00:34:09.266
So for y'all

00:34:10.427 --> 00:34:11.188
I know this was y'all's

00:34:11.228 --> 00:34:13.030
introduction to Dr. Phosphorus.

00:34:13.592 --> 00:34:16.356
How did y'all, how was that for y'all?

00:34:16.576 --> 00:34:18.119
Like getting to see him for

00:34:18.139 --> 00:34:20.222
the first time and getting

00:34:20.262 --> 00:34:21.384
introduced to this character?

00:34:24.610 --> 00:34:25.592
he was beautiful I'm sorry

00:34:25.612 --> 00:34:28.353
you're good uh I'm used to

00:34:28.373 --> 00:34:29.574
having one person I got

00:34:29.594 --> 00:34:31.235
three on tonight so we have

00:34:31.396 --> 00:34:33.677
the direct traffic uh he he

00:34:33.697 --> 00:34:34.978
was beautifully drawn for

00:34:35.059 --> 00:34:36.699
one thing I just loved just

00:34:36.900 --> 00:34:38.041
stunning right off the bat

00:34:38.101 --> 00:34:39.661
how vivid his colors were

00:34:39.682 --> 00:34:40.563
and everything I think just

00:34:40.603 --> 00:34:40.943
one of the most

00:34:41.824 --> 00:34:42.664
well drawn or well

00:34:42.704 --> 00:34:44.766
illustrated um characters

00:34:44.867 --> 00:34:47.168
on the show um alan tudyk

00:34:47.570 --> 00:34:49.871
is amazing I mean just

00:34:50.291 --> 00:34:51.413
right I mean they just

00:34:51.512 --> 00:34:52.733
nailed everything with how

00:34:52.753 --> 00:34:54.315
they they just made just

00:34:54.356 --> 00:34:56.938
brought him to life um his

00:34:56.998 --> 00:34:58.380
backstory I mean just again

00:34:58.440 --> 00:34:59.280
just you could see how much

00:34:59.300 --> 00:35:00.621
he loved his family and

00:35:00.661 --> 00:35:03.204
then to lose his family is such a brutal

00:35:04.324 --> 00:35:05.826
way and for them to pay the

00:35:05.865 --> 00:35:07.887
price for his actions it's

00:35:08.007 --> 00:35:08.929
it's a lot you're seeing

00:35:08.949 --> 00:35:11.190
that play out um on the

00:35:11.231 --> 00:35:13.793
screen is and and just

00:35:13.853 --> 00:35:15.213
really sets up for how

00:35:15.293 --> 00:35:16.534
dramatic the shift is when

00:35:16.554 --> 00:35:18.677
he becomes dr phosphorus

00:35:18.737 --> 00:35:19.856
and just lives the the

00:35:19.896 --> 00:35:21.097
party that never ends and

00:35:21.599 --> 00:35:22.719
gave us you know a meme

00:35:22.739 --> 00:35:24.541
that went viral with the

00:35:24.661 --> 00:35:25.561
real that went viral for

00:35:25.601 --> 00:35:26.882
forever with the dance um

00:35:28.403 --> 00:35:30.385
But, I mean, I thought it was really,

00:35:30.465 --> 00:35:31.385
really well done.

00:35:31.887 --> 00:35:32.567
And it gave you a good

00:35:32.646 --> 00:35:34.007
insight into his character.

00:35:34.429 --> 00:35:35.268
And, you know,

00:35:35.329 --> 00:35:37.251
just the fact that he's just

00:35:37.271 --> 00:35:39.172
not afraid to melt people's faces off.

00:35:39.192 --> 00:35:39.512
I was like,

00:35:39.532 --> 00:35:41.853
you have some brutal ways to kill people.

00:35:42.114 --> 00:35:43.556
And, wow.

00:35:43.976 --> 00:35:47.197
But, I mean, seeing what he went through,

00:35:47.219 --> 00:35:49.820
though, you kind of... It's terrible,

00:35:49.900 --> 00:35:50.860
but you kind of get it.

00:35:50.900 --> 00:35:52.342
It's that primal rage.

00:35:52.442 --> 00:35:52.663
I mean,

00:35:52.682 --> 00:35:54.324
what do you do after you lose everything?

00:35:54.344 --> 00:35:55.204
You just...

00:35:56.005 --> 00:35:57.286
You go on the bender that

00:35:57.326 --> 00:35:58.746
never ends kind of thing.

00:35:58.987 --> 00:36:00.128
You have to find some way to

00:36:00.168 --> 00:36:02.769
bury that pain.

00:36:02.949 --> 00:36:04.570
But then now he's channeling

00:36:04.650 --> 00:36:05.851
it for a different reason.

00:36:06.112 --> 00:36:07.652
And he's definitely one of

00:36:07.672 --> 00:36:10.655
the most effective team

00:36:10.675 --> 00:36:12.076
members on Creature Commandos.

00:36:12.295 --> 00:36:13.657
So I'm here for it.

00:36:13.856 --> 00:36:15.918
Let's roll.

00:36:15.938 --> 00:36:18.039
Because he can control himself.

00:36:18.079 --> 00:36:19.141
Because you see him playing

00:36:19.161 --> 00:36:20.240
with his child outside of

00:36:20.260 --> 00:36:21.041
the house there.

00:36:21.621 --> 00:36:22.663
He's tossing her up and

00:36:22.682 --> 00:36:23.784
having a good old time.

00:36:24.224 --> 00:36:25.385
And she's not getting burnt.

00:36:26.266 --> 00:36:26.686
And I'm like, wait,

00:36:26.746 --> 00:36:28.110
I thought he could just, I'm like,

00:36:28.130 --> 00:36:28.911
does he have that much

00:36:28.931 --> 00:36:31.197
control over his own self

00:36:31.217 --> 00:36:32.179
to where he can turn it off

00:36:32.219 --> 00:36:33.181
and turn it on like that?

00:36:34.385 --> 00:36:35.688
So I thought that was really cool as well.

00:36:36.623 --> 00:36:37.003
Randy, over here.

00:36:37.023 --> 00:36:37.905
He seems to be able to rock

00:36:37.925 --> 00:36:39.565
the wardrobe when he wants to.

00:36:39.766 --> 00:36:40.186
Yeah.

00:36:41.126 --> 00:36:41.507
But no,

00:36:41.907 --> 00:36:44.228
I really wanted just yes and Amanda,

00:36:44.289 --> 00:36:44.550
right?

00:36:44.590 --> 00:36:45.891
Because he's lost everything.

00:36:45.911 --> 00:36:47.152
He's got nothing to lose.

00:36:47.572 --> 00:36:50.034
That makes him the perfect scary monster.

00:36:50.074 --> 00:36:52.494
He's got a permanent mask to hide behind.

00:36:52.554 --> 00:36:53.675
He looks like he's smiling

00:36:53.695 --> 00:36:54.876
whether he wants to or not.

00:36:55.416 --> 00:36:55.978
But I think there was

00:36:56.018 --> 00:36:57.119
another thing driving him.

00:36:57.139 --> 00:36:58.699
It was the anger and the vengeance,

00:36:58.739 --> 00:36:59.559
but it was also...

00:37:00.521 --> 00:37:01.902
His wife said,

00:37:02.282 --> 00:37:04.384
you don't have to do it this way.

00:37:05.184 --> 00:37:07.146
You don't have to go about it this way.

00:37:07.507 --> 00:37:08.728
And he knew that she was right.

00:37:09.248 --> 00:37:11.050
He tried to pawn off some

00:37:11.110 --> 00:37:13.371
bullshit data to the mob,

00:37:13.952 --> 00:37:15.432
got himself in too deep,

00:37:15.612 --> 00:37:16.833
couldn't get himself out of it.

00:37:17.295 --> 00:37:19.175
So when he takes on that persona,

00:37:19.195 --> 00:37:22.039
when he goes after Rupert Thorne's gang,

00:37:23.099 --> 00:37:24.681
he's like, yeah, I am the criminal.

00:37:25.561 --> 00:37:27.003
I invited this into my

00:37:27.043 --> 00:37:28.083
family's life I made it

00:37:28.103 --> 00:37:28.842
happen so I think it's

00:37:28.882 --> 00:37:30.304
vengeance but also guilt

00:37:30.324 --> 00:37:32.063
because he knows that he

00:37:32.083 --> 00:37:33.324
did it and she knew better

00:37:33.364 --> 00:37:34.364
and she tried to warn him

00:37:35.184 --> 00:37:36.965
um so I love that but that

00:37:37.045 --> 00:37:38.246
makes him the perfect tool

00:37:38.306 --> 00:37:39.666
now for this government

00:37:39.847 --> 00:37:45.608
agency if I can yes and

00:37:45.668 --> 00:37:48.730
randy uh I because what the

00:37:48.789 --> 00:37:50.190
guilt part of it is super

00:37:50.210 --> 00:37:52.570
important because it also allows him

00:37:53.226 --> 00:37:55.467
like to have this change your heart.

00:37:55.507 --> 00:37:55.987
Like he,

00:37:56.367 --> 00:37:57.969
he does the face turn because

00:37:58.070 --> 00:37:58.929
ultimately he's like, yeah,

00:37:58.949 --> 00:37:59.831
let's just kill people.

00:38:00.351 --> 00:38:01.532
I don't care about anybody.

00:38:03.353 --> 00:38:04.833
Let's just burn the world.

00:38:05.094 --> 00:38:05.335
You know,

00:38:05.375 --> 00:38:06.956
he literally burned the world if

00:38:06.976 --> 00:38:08.637
he wants to like literal figurative.

00:38:09.697 --> 00:38:10.617
But at the end, again,

00:38:10.739 --> 00:38:11.639
it's one of my favorite

00:38:11.659 --> 00:38:12.619
moments is when he puts his

00:38:12.639 --> 00:38:13.900
hand on the bride's back.

00:38:13.940 --> 00:38:14.842
I've mentioned it before.

00:38:15.902 --> 00:38:16.702
It just is like,

00:38:17.496 --> 00:38:18.675
it's such a big turning

00:38:18.715 --> 00:38:19.516
point in the part with the

00:38:19.556 --> 00:38:20.597
kid too where it's just

00:38:20.637 --> 00:38:22.077
like one of the most tense

00:38:22.117 --> 00:38:23.617
parts because he is

00:38:23.657 --> 00:38:25.538
maniacal and he says I'm

00:38:25.577 --> 00:38:26.818
not smiling you're like oh

00:38:26.838 --> 00:38:28.378
shit he is a killer he's a

00:38:28.458 --> 00:38:29.597
monster and we realize

00:38:30.039 --> 00:38:30.818
there is a shred of

00:38:30.858 --> 00:38:32.278
humanity left within him

00:38:32.599 --> 00:38:33.958
just want he just misses

00:38:34.018 --> 00:38:35.880
being a dad and ultimately

00:38:35.960 --> 00:38:36.599
I think that's what

00:38:37.079 --> 00:38:38.460
overrides everything like

00:38:38.500 --> 00:38:39.579
he is still going to

00:38:39.659 --> 00:38:40.541
literally kill people in

00:38:40.561 --> 00:38:42.681
the most vicious way possible oh my god

00:38:43.041 --> 00:38:44.963
But I think he's more of a

00:38:45.023 --> 00:38:45.884
team player now.

00:38:45.923 --> 00:38:47.784
He's more for the side of,

00:38:47.864 --> 00:38:49.447
as our buddy Tyler McCarthy would say,

00:38:49.887 --> 00:38:51.248
for the side of the Angels type.

00:38:51.528 --> 00:38:52.949
And I think that's important

00:38:52.989 --> 00:38:55.831
because everyone goes through this,

00:38:55.871 --> 00:38:58.054
and he's the antithesis of Frankenstein.

00:38:58.094 --> 00:39:00.175
He's given this teachable moment,

00:39:00.556 --> 00:39:01.476
which I hate that word.

00:39:01.777 --> 00:39:04.079
Sorry, teacher.

00:39:04.099 --> 00:39:05.039
It's this teachable moment,

00:39:05.179 --> 00:39:06.702
and he gets the right lesson out of it.

00:39:07.923 --> 00:39:09.304
like you know this kid saved

00:39:09.364 --> 00:39:11.206
his life much like the old

00:39:11.226 --> 00:39:12.025
ladies frankenstein

00:39:12.045 --> 00:39:12.666
frankenstein's like yeah

00:39:12.686 --> 00:39:13.867
I'm just gonna kill her

00:39:13.907 --> 00:39:14.746
where he could have killed

00:39:14.766 --> 00:39:15.768
the kid because you need it

00:39:15.788 --> 00:39:17.288
like from his practical

00:39:17.327 --> 00:39:18.228
standpoint he could have

00:39:19.028 --> 00:39:21.389
but he realized now he'd

00:39:21.429 --> 00:39:23.090
rather get caught honestly

00:39:23.130 --> 00:39:24.632
than hurt his kid yeah

00:39:26.032 --> 00:39:27.273
because I mean when he he

00:39:27.333 --> 00:39:28.873
sees the little girl he the

00:39:28.893 --> 00:39:29.813
first thing that happens is

00:39:29.853 --> 00:39:30.793
he gets the flashback to

00:39:30.813 --> 00:39:32.235
his own little girl yeah

00:39:33.367 --> 00:39:34.349
and then when they come back

00:39:34.389 --> 00:39:35.429
he's like they're playing

00:39:35.469 --> 00:39:36.550
he's tossing her up and

00:39:36.570 --> 00:39:37.329
they're having this good

00:39:37.369 --> 00:39:38.990
old time and I'm like and

00:39:39.030 --> 00:39:42.851
he yeah dr phosphorus I

00:39:42.871 --> 00:39:43.932
will say there is another

00:39:43.992 --> 00:39:45.233
spin off of dr phosphorus

00:39:45.253 --> 00:39:46.673
that don't belong to dc he

00:39:46.713 --> 00:39:48.414
belongs to another another

00:39:48.434 --> 00:39:50.155
franchise that I wrote

00:39:50.195 --> 00:39:54.077
about for bill and then

00:39:54.657 --> 00:39:57.418
broke no I'm talking about

00:39:57.539 --> 00:39:59.519
uh from ghost machine

00:40:00.746 --> 00:40:01.527
Oh, yeah, that's right.

00:40:01.867 --> 00:40:03.168
And our never-to-be-launched

00:40:03.507 --> 00:40:05.449
best comic books of the year.

00:40:05.469 --> 00:40:05.809
Don't worry.

00:40:05.889 --> 00:40:07.090
I'm going to re-roll it.

00:40:07.130 --> 00:40:08.231
I'm going to put the review

00:40:08.411 --> 00:40:11.733
up on thedfpn.com for

00:40:11.893 --> 00:40:13.193
everybody to read because I

00:40:13.213 --> 00:40:15.114
thought it was a phenomenal write-up.

00:40:15.574 --> 00:40:16.056
It was.

00:40:16.335 --> 00:40:16.635
It was.

00:40:16.655 --> 00:40:18.237
It was a true shame that no

00:40:18.336 --> 00:40:21.759
one wanted to do that piece besides you.

00:40:21.778 --> 00:40:24.601
Let's jump over to Nina's story now.

00:40:25.420 --> 00:40:25.641
And...

00:40:27.505 --> 00:40:29.108
This one was another one of

00:40:29.148 --> 00:40:31.250
those where it's a parent

00:40:31.269 --> 00:40:32.931
who just wants the best for

00:40:32.972 --> 00:40:34.753
their kid and gives it to them,

00:40:35.275 --> 00:40:37.257
but it isn't quite what he

00:40:37.297 --> 00:40:39.699
thought it was going to be.

00:40:39.800 --> 00:40:40.019
Also,

00:40:40.039 --> 00:40:41.722
this is the finale episode with

00:40:41.742 --> 00:40:46.246
episode seven, and this one was...

00:40:47.284 --> 00:40:48.085
Oh, boy.

00:40:48.605 --> 00:40:49.585
You all right over there, Bill?

00:40:50.425 --> 00:40:51.326
Yeah, yeah.

00:40:51.726 --> 00:40:58.447
That was just the rat that was in my eye.

00:40:58.867 --> 00:40:59.208
Spoiler.

00:40:59.248 --> 00:40:59.688
Just a hint.

00:40:59.768 --> 00:41:00.009
I love it.

00:41:00.028 --> 00:41:00.688
I love it.

00:41:02.228 --> 00:41:05.170
But let's jump into this one.

00:41:06.070 --> 00:41:08.690
So during this whole finale,

00:41:08.710 --> 00:41:10.010
we're kind of getting Nina's story,

00:41:10.030 --> 00:41:11.811
and they saved it for last for a reason.

00:41:12.987 --> 00:41:14.648
And she really was the

00:41:14.688 --> 00:41:15.730
character at the end of the

00:41:15.769 --> 00:41:17.351
day that showed all of them

00:41:17.391 --> 00:41:19.632
that there was humanity in them.

00:41:20.454 --> 00:41:24.336
And, you know, but in the end,

00:41:24.597 --> 00:41:26.358
it didn't save her because

00:41:26.860 --> 00:41:30.222
the princess was a it is or was,

00:41:30.342 --> 00:41:30.963
I should say,

00:41:31.583 --> 00:41:32.945
a maniacal human being

00:41:32.985 --> 00:41:35.427
herself who ended up really

00:41:35.507 --> 00:41:37.708
actually being a monster in

00:41:37.728 --> 00:41:39.190
the monster scene through it.

00:41:40.282 --> 00:41:42.864
We'll start with, let's go with Randy.

00:41:43.483 --> 00:41:43.744
Randy,

00:41:43.764 --> 00:41:46.005
what did you think of Nina's story

00:41:47.025 --> 00:41:50.487
and ultimately her demise

00:41:50.507 --> 00:41:51.869
in this episode?

00:41:52.489 --> 00:41:52.769
Yeah,

00:41:53.030 --> 00:41:56.431
I was not at all surprised they saved

00:41:56.492 --> 00:41:57.333
it for the end.

00:41:57.773 --> 00:41:58.793
Because along the way,

00:41:59.153 --> 00:42:00.014
you're trying to figure out

00:42:00.094 --> 00:42:02.396
who is actually a criminal.

00:42:03.536 --> 00:42:06.097
And by my personal assessment,

00:42:06.699 --> 00:42:08.260
the only one who seems to be like...

00:42:09.032 --> 00:42:11.438
officially a criminal is Dr. Phosphorus.

00:42:11.559 --> 00:42:13.123
Presumably the bride's done

00:42:13.163 --> 00:42:15.068
some shit because she's not afraid.

00:42:15.989 --> 00:42:18.255
She's got a laundry list.

00:42:19.811 --> 00:42:21.972
Randy, when you mentioned that just now,

00:42:22.012 --> 00:42:23.112
I just got him dancing in

00:42:23.132 --> 00:42:26.514
that Party City pimp suit.

00:42:26.534 --> 00:42:28.596
That's the spinoff I want, by the way.

00:42:28.635 --> 00:42:30.916
It's just Dr. Prosperous Prime Lord.

00:42:31.016 --> 00:42:32.217
I would watch a whole series

00:42:32.257 --> 00:42:35.338
of just that little moment in time.

00:42:35.458 --> 00:42:37.440
That is James Gunn's ultimate power trip.

00:42:37.480 --> 00:42:39.201
He's like, I'm going to make this spinoff.

00:42:39.221 --> 00:42:39.460
They're like,

00:42:39.481 --> 00:42:40.882
no one really wants it but Randy.

00:42:40.902 --> 00:42:41.402
And it's just like,

00:42:41.422 --> 00:42:42.061
I'm going to make it for Randy!

00:42:43.905 --> 00:42:44.985
Right, and you end the series,

00:42:45.025 --> 00:42:46.425
we get to see how Batman

00:42:46.485 --> 00:42:47.686
took him down exactly.

00:42:48.027 --> 00:42:49.708
We want to talk about Batman really,

00:42:50.748 --> 00:42:51.148
really was,

00:42:51.509 --> 00:42:52.869
he was really bulky in season four.

00:42:52.949 --> 00:42:54.971
It was.

00:42:55.090 --> 00:42:57.572
He was like a real fat Batman.

00:42:57.652 --> 00:42:58.271
Yeah.

00:42:58.311 --> 00:42:59.152
But like with Nina,

00:42:59.193 --> 00:43:00.373
like the tragedy is like no

00:43:00.413 --> 00:43:02.414
matter how much her dad loves her,

00:43:02.474 --> 00:43:03.195
no matter how much he

00:43:03.255 --> 00:43:05.536
stands up for her when, you know,

00:43:05.596 --> 00:43:06.596
her mother is clearly

00:43:06.635 --> 00:43:07.797
struggling with the trauma

00:43:07.817 --> 00:43:08.476
that came with this

00:43:08.516 --> 00:43:09.717
incredibly difficult situation.

00:43:09.938 --> 00:43:11.318
this incredibly difficult birth.

00:43:11.358 --> 00:43:13.380
And we don't like where she lands,

00:43:13.420 --> 00:43:15.161
but we can understand the

00:43:15.181 --> 00:43:16.601
story and how she got there.

00:43:17.621 --> 00:43:18.501
And at the end of the day,

00:43:18.621 --> 00:43:20.202
it's too much for her to bear.

00:43:20.583 --> 00:43:22.844
She sees herself as a monster.

00:43:23.744 --> 00:43:24.684
She gets captured.

00:43:25.425 --> 00:43:26.585
If this story had followed

00:43:26.626 --> 00:43:28.186
the trajectory of some of the others,

00:43:28.666 --> 00:43:29.527
maybe she was going to have

00:43:29.547 --> 00:43:31.407
an outburst and kill some

00:43:31.447 --> 00:43:33.608
people after her father gets shot and

00:43:33.628 --> 00:43:34.929
That's what I thought was

00:43:34.949 --> 00:43:36.271
going to happen when her

00:43:36.431 --> 00:43:38.333
father got killed in front of her.

00:43:38.452 --> 00:43:39.434
I thought that was going to be her,

00:43:39.755 --> 00:43:40.936
her breaking moment and how

00:43:40.956 --> 00:43:44.579
she ended up being captured ultimately.

00:43:44.639 --> 00:43:46.940
But she just willingly just

00:43:47.001 --> 00:43:48.503
went after the death of her father.

00:43:48.543 --> 00:43:52.947
Cause that's really what kind of set her,

00:43:54.088 --> 00:43:55.108
you know, with, um,

00:43:58.447 --> 00:44:00.068
I'm having a hard time with words today.

00:44:00.108 --> 00:44:01.168
Good thing I brought Randy on.

00:44:01.208 --> 00:44:06.731
At the end of the day, she's not a killer,

00:44:06.791 --> 00:44:08.052
and that's what's so tough.

00:44:08.072 --> 00:44:10.112
That's why Amanda Waller is

00:44:10.132 --> 00:44:11.012
such a great villain.

00:44:13.474 --> 00:44:14.815
The performance is amazing,

00:44:14.835 --> 00:44:16.896
but she's an evil genius

00:44:16.956 --> 00:44:19.217
because Nina's skill is she

00:44:19.237 --> 00:44:20.978
is going to soften everyone

00:44:21.038 --> 00:44:22.798
else and give them someone else.

00:44:23.614 --> 00:44:26.076
really to protect um she

00:44:26.096 --> 00:44:27.576
only lost that battle

00:44:27.615 --> 00:44:28.695
because she wasn't really

00:44:28.755 --> 00:44:30.096
prepared to kill someone

00:44:30.115 --> 00:44:31.217
that wasn't really in her

00:44:31.277 --> 00:44:33.416
nature she never wanted to

00:44:33.456 --> 00:44:36.617
do it and that's it's uh it

00:44:36.637 --> 00:44:37.438
makes me feel great about

00:44:37.478 --> 00:44:39.018
the humanity of nina but it

00:44:39.038 --> 00:44:40.039
makes the whole thing even

00:44:40.079 --> 00:44:41.059
scarier because we don't

00:44:41.099 --> 00:44:43.179
see those skills well we

00:44:43.199 --> 00:44:44.139
didn't see the princess

00:44:44.179 --> 00:44:45.440
being a complete badass

00:44:45.480 --> 00:44:51.340
like that either go hop over to amanda

00:44:53.818 --> 00:44:55.159
So Nina's story, again,

00:44:55.199 --> 00:44:56.882
was really well done.

00:44:57.443 --> 00:44:59.103
It was another

00:44:59.143 --> 00:45:01.626
heart-wrenching story because it just,

00:45:02.226 --> 00:45:05.650
you know, all of her story, in a sense,

00:45:05.710 --> 00:45:06.512
just came about because

00:45:06.592 --> 00:45:08.193
other people pushed her.

00:45:08.213 --> 00:45:09.233
Like, she really had no...

00:45:10.514 --> 00:45:12.016
say and what happened to her

00:45:12.076 --> 00:45:13.097
I mean obviously her

00:45:13.137 --> 00:45:14.097
parents she was too little

00:45:14.137 --> 00:45:14.898
to make the choices that

00:45:14.938 --> 00:45:17.480
her parents made she was

00:45:17.539 --> 00:45:19.481
too little to affect her

00:45:19.521 --> 00:45:21.983
mother leaving she was you

00:45:22.003 --> 00:45:25.005
know kind of and even kind

00:45:25.045 --> 00:45:27.326
of just being pushed out in

00:45:27.365 --> 00:45:29.106
school like these were all

00:45:29.186 --> 00:45:30.148
a lot of what happened to

00:45:30.168 --> 00:45:33.010
her was the most impacted by other people

00:45:33.789 --> 00:45:34.869
And that's hard to watch

00:45:34.909 --> 00:45:35.791
because you really were

00:45:35.851 --> 00:45:37.791
rooting for her and you

00:45:37.851 --> 00:45:39.192
were wanting her to turn it

00:45:39.251 --> 00:45:40.972
around because she really

00:45:40.992 --> 00:45:42.233
was just a victim of other

00:45:42.253 --> 00:45:44.954
people's bad decision making.

00:45:45.034 --> 00:45:45.693
Yeah.

00:45:45.813 --> 00:45:47.755
And just, you know, or, and again,

00:45:47.894 --> 00:45:48.114
you know,

00:45:48.155 --> 00:45:48.875
I think her parents were

00:45:48.914 --> 00:45:49.795
well-intended and try,

00:45:49.815 --> 00:45:50.615
especially her dad trying

00:45:50.635 --> 00:45:51.516
to save her life.

00:45:51.695 --> 00:45:53.376
And that's absolutely commendable.

00:45:53.456 --> 00:45:55.117
I mean, who wouldn't do those things?

00:45:55.177 --> 00:45:57.297
Types of children.

00:45:57.518 --> 00:45:58.679
He did save her life.

00:45:58.858 --> 00:45:59.059
Yeah.

00:45:59.878 --> 00:46:00.360
He did.

00:46:00.400 --> 00:46:00.860
And I think,

00:46:00.920 --> 00:46:02.121
but I think she just fell into

00:46:02.161 --> 00:46:03.603
a pattern of other people

00:46:03.684 --> 00:46:05.286
heavily influencing her decisions.

00:46:05.326 --> 00:46:07.148
Again, not putting up much of a fight.

00:46:07.168 --> 00:46:08.369
Again, when you're grief stricken, though,

00:46:08.429 --> 00:46:09.811
that's a reaction you can have.

00:46:09.851 --> 00:46:10.552
It's realistic.

00:46:10.972 --> 00:46:13.454
But, you know, she was led on by, you know,

00:46:13.474 --> 00:46:13.996
the bride,

00:46:14.036 --> 00:46:14.936
like everybody else in Creature

00:46:14.956 --> 00:46:15.737
Command just kind of ran

00:46:15.777 --> 00:46:17.159
her over a little bit politely.

00:46:20.101 --> 00:46:21.001
They were never mean to her

00:46:21.021 --> 00:46:21.641
or rude to her or anything.

00:46:21.701 --> 00:46:22.981
But she was a follower.

00:46:23.240 --> 00:46:24.121
She was not a leader.

00:46:24.782 --> 00:46:28.961
And then to expect this big

00:46:29.021 --> 00:46:31.143
moment from her to go kill

00:46:31.443 --> 00:46:33.824
the princess was, to Randy's point,

00:46:34.264 --> 00:46:35.143
a big ask.

00:46:35.523 --> 00:46:37.003
And you were hoping that she

00:46:37.023 --> 00:46:38.545
would channel some of that energy.

00:46:38.565 --> 00:46:40.224
You wanted to see her become...

00:46:40.844 --> 00:46:41.985
to stand up for herself and

00:46:42.005 --> 00:46:43.505
to do something to like and

00:46:43.527 --> 00:46:44.106
that's what I was waiting

00:46:44.146 --> 00:46:44.967
for I was like okay we've

00:46:44.987 --> 00:46:46.347
had this build and it goes

00:46:46.387 --> 00:46:47.768
back to the first episode

00:46:47.789 --> 00:46:48.469
where I think where amanda

00:46:48.489 --> 00:46:49.469
waller was like she's the

00:46:49.550 --> 00:46:50.550
one you need to influence

00:46:50.590 --> 00:46:51.331
and that's a great point

00:46:51.371 --> 00:46:52.271
randy that you made I

00:46:52.311 --> 00:46:53.351
didn't think about that in

00:46:53.371 --> 00:46:55.012
terms of her role in

00:46:55.052 --> 00:46:56.634
facilitating kind of giving

00:46:56.753 --> 00:46:58.293
giving everybody someone to protect

00:46:59.474 --> 00:47:01.697
but I was hoping I think for

00:47:01.717 --> 00:47:03.838
a bigger kind of a bigger

00:47:03.878 --> 00:47:05.601
payoff and so for her story

00:47:05.621 --> 00:47:06.460
to end and that's what I'm

00:47:06.501 --> 00:47:07.561
hoping for in season two

00:47:07.581 --> 00:47:09.123
that there's more to her

00:47:09.184 --> 00:47:10.425
story like you really just

00:47:10.485 --> 00:47:12.045
want to see her come into

00:47:12.126 --> 00:47:13.847
her moment and to be so

00:47:13.907 --> 00:47:15.730
close to it and then it not

00:47:15.789 --> 00:47:17.471
happen that one I was like

00:47:17.690 --> 00:47:19.393
oh like she was probably

00:47:19.413 --> 00:47:20.454
the one that for the for

00:47:20.474 --> 00:47:21.655
the pretty much the whole

00:47:21.695 --> 00:47:22.275
time I was like come on

00:47:23.876 --> 00:47:26.099
Come on, Nina.

00:47:26.159 --> 00:47:28.161
Or just even to stand up for herself.

00:47:28.260 --> 00:47:29.300
And at times she showed

00:47:29.322 --> 00:47:30.762
glimpses of that in how she

00:47:30.802 --> 00:47:31.864
interacted with the bride.

00:47:32.264 --> 00:47:33.985
But I just wanted her to be

00:47:34.045 --> 00:47:35.766
able to make her own decisions.

00:47:36.186 --> 00:47:37.929
She was the bride's good

00:47:37.969 --> 00:47:39.369
conscience at many points.

00:47:39.750 --> 00:47:40.710
She was.

00:47:41.831 --> 00:47:43.552
But seeing more of that and

00:47:43.572 --> 00:47:44.514
seeing more of her

00:47:45.375 --> 00:47:47.797
influence her own life is what I really,

00:47:48.197 --> 00:47:49.018
really wanted to see.

00:47:49.038 --> 00:47:51.019
And I'm hoping we still get some of that.

00:47:51.945 --> 00:47:54.648
bill over to you yeah uh her

00:47:54.708 --> 00:47:56.429
story is like james gunn

00:47:56.489 --> 00:47:57.530
you and manipulate

00:47:57.550 --> 00:47:58.731
emotionally manipulative

00:47:58.791 --> 00:47:59.952
bastard like he did it

00:47:59.972 --> 00:48:03.414
again yeah he did like we

00:48:03.454 --> 00:48:06.077
had yondu and guardians too

00:48:06.097 --> 00:48:07.478
hey that was still hurts uh

00:48:08.619 --> 00:48:09.559
don't get me started about

00:48:09.639 --> 00:48:11.762
that uh and I mean we had

00:48:11.782 --> 00:48:13.003
there's so many things that

00:48:13.023 --> 00:48:14.844
happen in the suicide squad

00:48:14.903 --> 00:48:16.085
like like you know rick

00:48:16.125 --> 00:48:17.326
flag you have other people just

00:48:18.469 --> 00:48:20.090
he'll take someone off the board,

00:48:20.572 --> 00:48:22.853
but I don't think Nina's off the board.

00:48:22.972 --> 00:48:23.753
We didn't see them.

00:48:25.135 --> 00:48:27.757
She wasn't buried or anything like that.

00:48:28.536 --> 00:48:30.038
It's creature commandos, guys.

00:48:30.057 --> 00:48:30.617
She'll come back,

00:48:30.637 --> 00:48:31.358
and I think that's where

00:48:31.378 --> 00:48:33.360
she's going to have that badass moment,

00:48:33.380 --> 00:48:33.639
Amanda.

00:48:33.721 --> 00:48:35.902
I think that's season two where I see her.

00:48:36.362 --> 00:48:37.563
And what I ultimately hope

00:48:37.583 --> 00:48:39.184
she does is she kills Aquaman.

00:48:40.005 --> 00:48:42.505
Because... No,

00:48:42.545 --> 00:48:43.706
he's not going to kill Aquaman,

00:48:43.746 --> 00:48:44.248
but there's going to

00:48:44.288 --> 00:48:45.547
definitely be Aquaman jokes

00:48:45.588 --> 00:48:47.590
written into it because there should be.

00:48:48.079 --> 00:48:50.240
Especially now that he's Lobo.

00:48:50.380 --> 00:48:51.420
Yeah, and you know,

00:48:51.440 --> 00:48:52.882
they're going to cast me as Aquaman.

00:48:52.942 --> 00:48:54.461
It's just like old Aquaman.

00:48:54.521 --> 00:48:55.161
Look at him.

00:48:56.682 --> 00:48:57.523
He's got a bad neck and his

00:48:57.583 --> 00:48:59.003
gills are rotting out of his neck.

00:48:59.804 --> 00:49:00.943
Aquaman that I grew up with

00:49:01.003 --> 00:49:03.644
in the comic book was a blonde-haired,

00:49:03.704 --> 00:49:04.865
blue-eyed, white dude.

00:49:07.244 --> 00:49:08.905
Not this big old Jason Momoa fella.

00:49:08.945 --> 00:49:10.806
I have no complaints.

00:49:10.905 --> 00:49:11.505
Excuse me.

00:49:12.025 --> 00:49:13.306
I have no complaints about

00:49:13.365 --> 00:49:14.907
how Aquaman got that glow up.

00:49:14.947 --> 00:49:15.726
It's fine.

00:49:15.827 --> 00:49:16.007
Yeah,

00:49:16.027 --> 00:49:17.867
let him shake that water out of his hair,

00:49:17.887 --> 00:49:18.166
man.

00:49:18.927 --> 00:49:19.887
It's all good.

00:49:20.507 --> 00:49:21.847
He saw that coming, right?

00:49:22.367 --> 00:49:24.387
But I think that Nina is

00:49:24.427 --> 00:49:25.507
just like ultimately her

00:49:25.547 --> 00:49:27.148
story was you have to be one of us.

00:49:27.168 --> 00:49:28.208
You have to be one of us.

00:49:28.688 --> 00:49:30.168
And the story was no,

00:49:30.228 --> 00:49:31.528
everyone needed to be one of her.

00:49:32.068 --> 00:49:34.530
And I think that's what's going to work.

00:49:34.690 --> 00:49:34.869
And

00:49:36.755 --> 00:49:39.177
I wonder,

00:49:40.539 --> 00:49:42.900
could that lead to her in a heel

00:49:42.940 --> 00:49:45.842
turn in season two?

00:49:45.862 --> 00:49:48.985
That she taps into some sort

00:49:49.005 --> 00:49:51.065
of dark side or a revenge?

00:49:52.286 --> 00:49:54.447
You guys convinced me to go

00:49:54.487 --> 00:49:55.289
against my morals.

00:49:55.369 --> 00:49:57.170
Now you've unwoken the beast

00:49:57.190 --> 00:49:58.731
that's finally inside of me,

00:49:58.931 --> 00:49:59.771
and I'm going to be this

00:50:00.311 --> 00:50:01.552
evil mastermind who's going

00:50:01.572 --> 00:50:02.434
to come back and

00:50:05.318 --> 00:50:06.978
While she's recovering in the hospital bed,

00:50:06.998 --> 00:50:10.260
she's like, you know what?

00:50:10.699 --> 00:50:11.460
She's in a hospital.

00:50:12.780 --> 00:50:14.380
I'd rather see them team up

00:50:14.420 --> 00:50:15.840
against the dehumanizing

00:50:16.081 --> 00:50:17.940
government agency.

00:50:19.842 --> 00:50:20.621
That's my whole thing.

00:50:20.641 --> 00:50:21.581
I agree.

00:50:23.302 --> 00:50:24.322
I would like that back and forth.

00:50:25.170 --> 00:50:25.871
The one thing I have to

00:50:25.911 --> 00:50:26.951
shout out about Nina before

00:50:26.990 --> 00:50:29.012
we move on from her is my

00:50:29.251 --> 00:50:30.271
favorite thing to do in

00:50:30.311 --> 00:50:32.452
life is just play a board game.

00:50:33.793 --> 00:50:34.833
If I can ever convince the

00:50:34.873 --> 00:50:36.032
people in my life to sit

00:50:36.072 --> 00:50:38.572
back and play a board game, life is good.

00:50:38.914 --> 00:50:40.793
That's my ultimate goal.

00:50:43.094 --> 00:50:44.375
If I lived up Bayou Randy,

00:50:44.474 --> 00:50:45.855
I would come play board games with you.

00:50:46.275 --> 00:50:47.255
We're going to make this

00:50:47.295 --> 00:50:48.394
happen someday because

00:50:48.735 --> 00:50:49.556
they're holed up in the

00:50:49.596 --> 00:50:50.815
brothel fighting for their

00:50:50.856 --> 00:50:52.076
lives and she's like,

00:50:53.809 --> 00:50:55.190
I see a gaming opportunity.

00:50:55.250 --> 00:50:57.592
Let me grab Scattergories.

00:50:57.632 --> 00:51:01.273
Are you in Jersey too, Randy?

00:51:01.293 --> 00:51:02.675
Randy is a Bostonian.

00:51:03.576 --> 00:51:05.137
You're a Bostonian?

00:51:05.197 --> 00:51:06.018
Massachusetts anyway.

00:51:07.838 --> 00:51:09.519
Okay.

00:51:09.559 --> 00:51:10.561
It's basically the same thing.

00:51:10.661 --> 00:51:12.521
The armpit of Massachusetts.

00:51:13.382 --> 00:51:15.324
It's all Boston.

00:51:15.643 --> 00:51:17.065
Listen, I'm in the armpit of America.

00:51:17.085 --> 00:51:18.867
As long as they keep Sam Adams flowing,

00:51:18.887 --> 00:51:19.286
we're all good.

00:51:19.306 --> 00:51:19.586
Is it?

00:51:22.873 --> 00:51:24.893
A fun visit to the Sam Adams

00:51:24.934 --> 00:51:26.936
Brewery for sure.

00:51:26.976 --> 00:51:29.697
So before we leave Creature Commandos,

00:51:29.737 --> 00:51:30.838
how did y'all feel about

00:51:30.878 --> 00:51:32.940
the ending and the bride

00:51:33.001 --> 00:51:34.041
seeing through the

00:51:34.101 --> 00:51:39.206
princess's bullshit and just ending it?

00:51:39.226 --> 00:51:40.527
We'll start with Randy since

00:51:40.547 --> 00:51:41.367
he just seen it.

00:51:41.407 --> 00:51:43.809
How'd you take that final shot?

00:51:44.989 --> 00:51:48.297
So the way I kicked off my

00:51:48.356 --> 00:51:50.561
chat with my buddy Chris Ingersoll,

00:51:50.581 --> 00:51:51.423
who loved this show,

00:51:52.126 --> 00:51:53.949
was I love the ending.

00:51:54.652 --> 00:51:55.753
Because I was like, wait,

00:51:55.813 --> 00:51:57.355
how are they going to land the plane?

00:51:57.375 --> 00:51:58.335
We're at a runway.

00:51:58.695 --> 00:51:59.896
Is all they're going to do

00:52:00.637 --> 00:52:02.018
just like set up season two?

00:52:02.119 --> 00:52:03.659
And I was feeling annoyed for a second.

00:52:04.280 --> 00:52:06.302
This was a perfect ending

00:52:06.382 --> 00:52:08.983
for me because it wasn't too messy.

00:52:09.724 --> 00:52:11.246
They tied up some loose ends

00:52:11.266 --> 00:52:12.626
but left some open questions.

00:52:12.967 --> 00:52:13.806
I love it because there's

00:52:13.827 --> 00:52:15.108
some ambiguity here.

00:52:16.028 --> 00:52:16.969
There's no part of me that

00:52:17.010 --> 00:52:19.831
thinks the princess is innocent, right?

00:52:19.972 --> 00:52:20.952
But I don't think we saw

00:52:21.072 --> 00:52:22.152
anything to like one

00:52:22.293 --> 00:52:24.434
hundred percent prove that

00:52:24.494 --> 00:52:26.135
Cersei's vision is going to

00:52:26.175 --> 00:52:27.275
come true like like this.

00:52:27.416 --> 00:52:29.016
This princess is sinister.

00:52:29.056 --> 00:52:32.679
We saw those eyes go evil under the water.

00:52:32.719 --> 00:52:35.079
We saw that bloodlust for the kill.

00:52:35.500 --> 00:52:36.740
And I think the bride did

00:52:36.880 --> 00:52:38.882
assess the situation properly.

00:52:39.322 --> 00:52:40.543
But we don't really know the

00:52:40.643 --> 00:52:41.963
exact machinations.

00:52:42.023 --> 00:52:42.224
Right.

00:52:42.284 --> 00:52:42.483
Like.

00:52:42.923 --> 00:52:45.385
I love the film Minority Report, right?

00:52:45.425 --> 00:52:46.264
This whole question,

00:52:46.344 --> 00:52:47.666
can you try someone for the

00:52:47.686 --> 00:52:48.905
crime before they're guilty?

00:52:49.465 --> 00:52:51.067
The bride does it based on

00:52:51.106 --> 00:52:52.186
some pretty good evidence.

00:52:52.847 --> 00:52:54.648
But what a great way to tie that up.

00:52:54.969 --> 00:52:57.929
She just makes that call on her own.

00:52:59.449 --> 00:53:01.431
Who cares what Amanda Waller has to say?

00:53:02.190 --> 00:53:03.092
I'm going to follow through

00:53:03.112 --> 00:53:04.331
on my mission my own way.

00:53:04.911 --> 00:53:05.693
And that's why this was the

00:53:05.733 --> 00:53:06.773
bride's show for me.

00:53:06.793 --> 00:53:09.153
And I personally loved the ending.

00:53:09.554 --> 00:53:11.034
I felt closure and just

00:53:11.054 --> 00:53:12.255
sense of excitement for two.

00:53:14.967 --> 00:53:15.715
Amanda, over to you.

00:53:17.003 --> 00:53:17.583
I enjoyed it.

00:53:18.364 --> 00:53:19.545
I thought it was a good...

00:53:21.485 --> 00:53:23.668
It closed the loop on a few things,

00:53:23.947 --> 00:53:25.369
but yet you got the

00:53:25.409 --> 00:53:27.090
definitive backstories for everybody.

00:53:27.951 --> 00:53:29.472
You got a sense of where

00:53:29.492 --> 00:53:30.331
they were going to go.

00:53:30.952 --> 00:53:32.114
It closed the chapter on

00:53:32.153 --> 00:53:33.954
that current version of the

00:53:33.974 --> 00:53:36.416
Creature Commandos that we got.

00:53:36.436 --> 00:53:36.757
Of course,

00:53:36.797 --> 00:53:37.838
it left the door open for the

00:53:37.898 --> 00:53:39.778
new version as well.

00:53:39.998 --> 00:53:41.219
There's a lot of Creature

00:53:41.239 --> 00:53:42.780
Commandos that we have not

00:53:42.820 --> 00:53:43.742
seen and that they can

00:53:43.802 --> 00:53:45.302
introduce from the comic book.

00:53:45.623 --> 00:53:46.963
I'm excited to see what

00:53:46.983 --> 00:53:48.125
they're going to do with it.

00:53:48.445 --> 00:53:50.346
So it feels very fresh for

00:53:50.365 --> 00:53:51.987
them to go that approach.

00:53:52.047 --> 00:53:54.409
But I also, I mean, the bride's a badass.

00:53:54.588 --> 00:53:55.068
I loved her.

00:53:55.088 --> 00:53:56.110
She's my favorite character.

00:53:56.170 --> 00:53:56.911
So I'm just here.

00:53:57.291 --> 00:53:59.092
I mean, it was circumstantial evidence.

00:53:59.192 --> 00:53:59.552
It was.

00:53:59.572 --> 00:54:00.413
I was like, whew,

00:54:00.432 --> 00:54:02.134
that's a risky move there.

00:54:02.494 --> 00:54:05.876
But it was effective.

00:54:05.936 --> 00:54:07.336
I mean, the princess had it coming.

00:54:07.356 --> 00:54:08.398
I mean, you stabbed Nina.

00:54:08.617 --> 00:54:09.318
I don't like you either.

00:54:09.338 --> 00:54:12.081
I mean, I was never going to trust her.

00:54:12.181 --> 00:54:15.282
Like, the way she threw herself at Rick.

00:54:15.882 --> 00:54:17.644
Like she was like the female

00:54:17.684 --> 00:54:18.945
in a Hemingway novel.

00:54:19.226 --> 00:54:20.067
It's the hair.

00:54:20.686 --> 00:54:21.608
It's the hair.

00:54:22.789 --> 00:54:24.769
I knew she had some ulterior motive.

00:54:25.650 --> 00:54:26.831
I mean, he's a handsome guy,

00:54:26.891 --> 00:54:27.893
but there was something

00:54:27.932 --> 00:54:29.193
more going on there for sure.

00:54:29.213 --> 00:54:30.855
It's because he's a dopey piece of shit.

00:54:35.217 --> 00:54:36.896
Richard Flagg.

00:54:37.318 --> 00:54:39.297
I call him Rick because he's my friend.

00:54:39.338 --> 00:54:39.418
Leo?

00:54:39.438 --> 00:54:45.659
Only you.

00:54:46.398 --> 00:54:50.159
So, some issues with the ending here.

00:54:50.679 --> 00:54:52.739
I brought up the Clayface part of it.

00:54:54.221 --> 00:54:57.340
The Cersei prophecy thing is so muddy.

00:54:57.920 --> 00:55:01.961
It's just like, okay, so Princess...

00:55:02.693 --> 00:55:03.974
Cosmo because Marina

00:55:03.996 --> 00:55:06.077
Bakalova voiced Cosmo in

00:55:06.117 --> 00:55:07.259
Guardians and I forgot her

00:55:07.298 --> 00:55:08.601
name within the show so

00:55:09.001 --> 00:55:10.101
she's Princess Cosmo now

00:55:11.043 --> 00:55:13.847
she employs Clayface to be

00:55:14.547 --> 00:55:16.248
to go and infiltrate and be

00:55:16.670 --> 00:55:18.411
the kill the professor and take over

00:55:20.039 --> 00:55:22.280
I don't know how that fits.

00:55:22.360 --> 00:55:22.980
It just doesn't,

00:55:23.380 --> 00:55:24.739
the puzzle pieces don't fit

00:55:24.780 --> 00:55:26.219
for me on that.

00:55:26.639 --> 00:55:29.181
It's cool, but also like,

00:55:29.581 --> 00:55:32.240
but I do love how the bride

00:55:32.581 --> 00:55:34.342
pulled and Randy on our

00:55:34.561 --> 00:55:35.481
socially distance episode.

00:55:35.561 --> 00:55:37.362
I did, I did a reference.

00:55:37.382 --> 00:55:40.742
It was a very Benoit Blanc type of, well,

00:55:44.603 --> 00:55:46.603
I loved, like I said, like, I love that.

00:55:46.664 --> 00:55:47.764
I love the new team.

00:55:48.226 --> 00:55:48.947
which is great.

00:55:48.967 --> 00:55:50.210
The King shark back.

00:55:50.391 --> 00:55:52.235
Ah, so good.

00:55:52.376 --> 00:55:53.557
I will take him at any kind

00:55:53.579 --> 00:55:54.420
of media I can get.

00:55:54.780 --> 00:55:55.041
Yeah.

00:55:55.262 --> 00:55:56.726
And, and I just, um,

00:55:57.940 --> 00:55:59.121
I just think that the

00:55:59.181 --> 00:56:01.684
motivations and the vision, I'm just like,

00:56:01.784 --> 00:56:02.704
it just didn't,

00:56:02.844 --> 00:56:03.925
they didn't land the plane

00:56:03.945 --> 00:56:04.786
for me on that.

00:56:05.405 --> 00:56:06.447
But the ending where she

00:56:06.487 --> 00:56:08.608
just caps the princess,

00:56:08.829 --> 00:56:09.449
because I think the

00:56:09.489 --> 00:56:10.909
princess was a hundred percent guilty.

00:56:11.590 --> 00:56:13.192
Circumstantial evidence be damned,

00:56:13.231 --> 00:56:13.692
your honor.

00:56:13.952 --> 00:56:15.152
I've seen enough law and order.

00:56:15.172 --> 00:56:16.914
I mean, she was totally guilty.

00:56:17.434 --> 00:56:20.677
She was totally guilty, but.

00:56:20.717 --> 00:56:21.797
That kill was for Mina.

00:56:21.998 --> 00:56:22.639
A hundred percent.

00:56:22.719 --> 00:56:23.219
Yeah.

00:56:23.358 --> 00:56:23.920
Oh yeah.

00:56:24.000 --> 00:56:24.539
Yeah.

00:56:24.619 --> 00:56:24.760
Yeah.

00:56:24.780 --> 00:56:25.601
That was like,

00:56:25.681 --> 00:56:26.902
you're getting this bullet for Mina.

00:56:28.271 --> 00:56:31.833
And it was just the perfect dead center.

00:56:33.373 --> 00:56:34.793
That's satisfying as fuck.

00:56:34.873 --> 00:56:37.594
I don't care.

00:56:37.635 --> 00:56:39.096
So we're going to jump over

00:56:39.155 --> 00:56:40.257
to Skeleton Crew,

00:56:40.416 --> 00:56:41.817
but we are greenlit already

00:56:41.856 --> 00:56:43.878
for Creature Commandos Season Two.

00:56:44.559 --> 00:56:45.458
And I love the fact that

00:56:45.478 --> 00:56:48.721
James Gunn is just like, I'm DC.

00:56:49.221 --> 00:56:50.021
This is my show.

00:56:50.981 --> 00:56:52.121
We're getting Season Two, guys.

00:56:52.842 --> 00:56:53.543
And I'm not mad.

00:56:54.682 --> 00:56:55.884
Cheers to the Tin Man.

00:56:57.889 --> 00:56:58.510
Oh, yeah.

00:57:01.172 --> 00:57:02.431
Speaking of someone on the juice,

00:57:02.472 --> 00:57:03.132
holy shit.

00:57:04.492 --> 00:57:05.373
Yeah, robot man.

00:57:06.213 --> 00:57:06.994
Oh, yeah.

00:57:07.094 --> 00:57:08.695
I forgot about that.

00:57:08.715 --> 00:57:09.574
What a glow up.

00:57:10.315 --> 00:57:12.976
He did have a glow up in episode seven.

00:57:13.876 --> 00:57:16.077
That dude got yoked and yoked fast.

00:57:16.117 --> 00:57:17.038
Oh, my God.

00:57:21.289 --> 00:57:22.909
Speaking of robots,

00:57:23.331 --> 00:57:25.112
let's go talk about our new

00:57:25.251 --> 00:57:30.456
favorite robot in SM-XXXIII, Shmi.

00:57:31.257 --> 00:57:32.298
And close up Creature

00:57:32.338 --> 00:57:33.559
Commandos for everybody.

00:57:33.599 --> 00:57:35.742
I know we think we left off at episode...

00:57:37.159 --> 00:57:37.880
For last time,

00:57:37.920 --> 00:57:38.882
I think we're at the halfway

00:57:38.922 --> 00:57:40.244
point the last time we talked about it.

00:57:40.925 --> 00:57:42.867
So we'll jump right into it

00:57:43.507 --> 00:57:45.791
at episode five.

00:57:46.512 --> 00:57:49.295
And so just for everybody who doesn't know,

00:57:49.335 --> 00:57:50.536
this takes place during the

00:57:50.557 --> 00:57:52.199
same time frame as the Mandalorian.

00:57:53.670 --> 00:57:56.172
And we're talking about a

00:57:56.251 --> 00:57:57.393
planet that has been

00:57:57.673 --> 00:58:00.436
potentially hidden away

00:58:00.795 --> 00:58:03.217
since the old Republic era.

00:58:03.679 --> 00:58:04.840
So this planet has been

00:58:05.179 --> 00:58:07.342
hidden for a very long time.

00:58:07.842 --> 00:58:09.423
And the planet just operates.

00:58:10.905 --> 00:58:13.206
It continues what it was put there to do,

00:58:13.306 --> 00:58:16.289
and that is to create Republic credits.

00:58:17.559 --> 00:58:20.101
is a uh a complete treasure

00:58:20.121 --> 00:58:21.621
planet which is you know

00:58:21.880 --> 00:58:22.920
what they've come out now

00:58:22.981 --> 00:58:24.121
and have said like oh yeah

00:58:24.161 --> 00:58:26.141
we we kind of based this

00:58:26.181 --> 00:58:27.603
entire thing off uh

00:58:28.222 --> 00:58:29.842
treasure planet type of uh

00:58:30.364 --> 00:58:31.963
you know you know spin to

00:58:32.023 --> 00:58:35.625
it so let's jump in did you

00:58:35.664 --> 00:58:36.945
make a reference to long

00:58:36.965 --> 00:58:38.945
forgotten disney classic treasure planet

00:58:39.702 --> 00:58:40.362
I did.

00:58:40.902 --> 00:58:42.483
Because that's what they literally said.

00:58:42.523 --> 00:58:43.284
Like, hey, yeah,

00:58:43.724 --> 00:58:45.626
we literally took Treasure Planet,

00:58:45.786 --> 00:58:47.246
fucking threw it in the Star Wars.

00:58:47.306 --> 00:58:48.867
And hey, this is what we got.

00:58:49.608 --> 00:58:50.228
And I'm not mad.

00:58:50.369 --> 00:58:52.130
I really enjoyed this show.

00:58:54.672 --> 00:58:55.492
We'll start with Randy.

00:58:55.552 --> 00:58:56.472
What did you think about the

00:58:56.554 --> 00:58:58.375
cast of this show?

00:59:00.128 --> 00:59:02.771
so I was really excited for skeleton crew,

00:59:02.811 --> 00:59:04.351
like conceptually, like, like,

00:59:04.431 --> 00:59:06.773
can we come in and do this

00:59:06.833 --> 00:59:08.333
Goonies ask show?

00:59:09.074 --> 00:59:09.255
Um,

00:59:09.434 --> 00:59:11.536
but I was a little bit worried because it,

00:59:11.596 --> 00:59:13.817
it's tough to cast kid actors.

00:59:14.418 --> 00:59:15.818
And I had the great pleasure

00:59:15.858 --> 00:59:16.778
of chatting with Bill and

00:59:16.798 --> 00:59:18.199
Amanda about the two part

00:59:18.280 --> 00:59:19.701
premiere back in December.

00:59:20.440 --> 00:59:22.902
Uh, and really enjoyed it.

00:59:23.623 --> 00:59:24.184
And Bill's like,

00:59:24.224 --> 00:59:25.764
I've done so many pods since then.

00:59:26.065 --> 00:59:27.945
I can see it on your face.

00:59:28.746 --> 00:59:29.487
No, but, uh,

00:59:30.769 --> 00:59:31.510
I also was looking at

00:59:31.570 --> 00:59:33.391
Amanda's twelve gallon jug

00:59:33.411 --> 00:59:36.510
of water over there.

00:59:36.530 --> 00:59:36.791
You know what?

00:59:36.811 --> 00:59:37.831
I'm staying hydrated, sir.

00:59:37.891 --> 00:59:38.572
It's Texas.

00:59:39.472 --> 00:59:39.731
Listen,

00:59:39.791 --> 00:59:41.552
I really loved the kids in the

00:59:41.612 --> 00:59:44.273
premiere and they continue

00:59:44.293 --> 00:59:45.713
to be a strong suit all the

00:59:45.733 --> 00:59:46.552
way through to the end.

00:59:47.152 --> 00:59:48.532
I really enjoyed this series.

00:59:49.273 --> 00:59:50.353
I hope they find a way to

00:59:50.393 --> 00:59:51.673
bring us these characters again.

00:59:51.713 --> 00:59:52.414
But honestly,

00:59:52.454 --> 00:59:54.233
my biggest critique is they

00:59:54.253 --> 00:59:55.534
needed to write the parents

00:59:55.755 --> 00:59:56.954
out of it more.

00:59:57.514 --> 00:59:58.900
to let these kids stay front

00:59:58.920 --> 00:59:59.744
and center for me.

00:59:59.784 --> 01:00:01.409
That, that was like my biggest note.

01:00:02.172 --> 01:00:02.333
Um,

01:00:03.322 --> 01:00:04.362
And the kids are incredible.

01:00:04.422 --> 01:00:05.824
And Jude Law was just on

01:00:06.324 --> 01:00:07.463
another level because this

01:00:07.503 --> 01:00:09.284
is my absolute favorite

01:00:09.324 --> 01:00:10.364
type of character.

01:00:11.405 --> 01:00:12.186
Even when he was saying

01:00:12.286 --> 01:00:13.766
horrible things to the

01:00:13.806 --> 01:00:16.226
children and like you hate him,

01:00:16.427 --> 01:00:17.547
you love to hate him.

01:00:18.686 --> 01:00:19.768
We've seen him previously

01:00:19.807 --> 01:00:20.967
have this really meaningful

01:00:21.007 --> 01:00:22.208
heart to heart with Wim.

01:00:22.608 --> 01:00:23.389
And then to see this like

01:00:23.429 --> 01:00:26.068
broken child there and Jod is just like,

01:00:26.108 --> 01:00:27.829
you're the most annoying one.

01:00:27.869 --> 01:00:29.329
And it's so painful.

01:00:29.369 --> 01:00:31.670
And I'm like, why do I still like him?

01:00:34.690 --> 01:00:37.231
but like but then you know I

01:00:37.251 --> 01:00:38.570
know I'm going out of order

01:00:38.590 --> 01:00:39.590
here a little bit but when

01:00:39.610 --> 01:00:40.811
we get to the finale like

01:00:41.190 --> 01:00:42.731
he's genuinely concerned

01:00:42.771 --> 01:00:44.192
for kb when that ship is

01:00:44.251 --> 01:00:46.472
going down he is not happy

01:00:47.572 --> 01:00:49.213
that she might get killed

01:00:49.672 --> 01:00:50.333
so there's there's

01:00:50.373 --> 01:00:51.793
something redeemable there

01:00:52.313 --> 01:00:53.673
um and I know we're going

01:00:53.693 --> 01:00:54.693
to dig into him later so I

01:00:54.713 --> 01:00:55.693
don't want to I don't want

01:00:55.713 --> 01:00:56.914
to go too early on that but

01:00:56.954 --> 01:00:57.693
yeah jude law was

01:00:57.733 --> 01:00:58.715
incredible and these kids

01:00:58.755 --> 01:01:00.775
really blew me away amanda

01:01:01.760 --> 01:01:03.842
I mean, Randy, I get why you dug Jude Law.

01:01:03.862 --> 01:01:09.568
I mean, he's a delfy piece of shit.

01:01:09.929 --> 01:01:13.432
I mean, Jude Law, though, charismatic.

01:01:13.632 --> 01:01:15.914
Charismatic as hell in this part.

01:01:15.954 --> 01:01:19.358
But that's the thing about Jude Law.

01:01:19.398 --> 01:01:20.280
I think there was a period

01:01:20.300 --> 01:01:22.081
of time growing up where

01:01:22.121 --> 01:01:23.483
Jude Law was everywhere.

01:01:23.922 --> 01:01:25.385
He was in everything for a

01:01:25.445 --> 01:01:26.445
period of time and then

01:01:26.505 --> 01:01:27.688
kind of like low-key went

01:01:27.748 --> 01:01:29.570
under the radar and then he's back.

01:01:29.769 --> 01:01:31.132
He's one of those actors

01:01:31.152 --> 01:01:32.432
that you sometimes take for

01:01:32.452 --> 01:01:33.755
granted that you don't

01:01:33.795 --> 01:01:34.916
remember how good he is

01:01:34.996 --> 01:01:35.657
until he puts on a

01:01:35.737 --> 01:01:37.398
performance like this where

01:01:37.418 --> 01:01:39.661
he takes you through everything.

01:01:40.442 --> 01:01:40.981
Everything.

01:01:41.101 --> 01:01:42.342
And this just reminded me

01:01:42.822 --> 01:01:45.724
how great Jude Law really,

01:01:45.744 --> 01:01:47.864
and how underrated he is as an actor.

01:01:48.385 --> 01:01:50.144
Because he really did, like, to your point,

01:01:50.164 --> 01:01:52.545
Randy, I will, you know, he,

01:01:52.666 --> 01:01:53.465
you loved him.

01:01:53.945 --> 01:01:54.887
He was charismatic.

01:01:54.927 --> 01:01:56.146
You saw him broken.

01:01:56.286 --> 01:01:58.367
And then you see him and you're like, wow,

01:01:58.447 --> 01:02:00.088
you are savage to these kids.

01:02:00.108 --> 01:02:00.748
Like, what?

01:02:00.969 --> 01:02:01.748
Dude, like...

01:02:03.090 --> 01:02:04.251
But then you liked him again.

01:02:04.552 --> 01:02:06.514
Yeah, I was like,

01:02:06.594 --> 01:02:07.996
you are not holding back.

01:02:08.416 --> 01:02:09.938
Wow, you just let them have it.

01:02:11.681 --> 01:02:13.202
The kids were great.

01:02:14.844 --> 01:02:15.786
I loved KB.

01:02:17.445 --> 01:02:19.206
I thought she had,

01:02:19.306 --> 01:02:21.166
and I know we'll talk about them more,

01:02:21.206 --> 01:02:22.827
but each of the kids had a

01:02:22.887 --> 01:02:24.947
different arc and their own

01:02:25.509 --> 01:02:27.489
ways of growing and own paces of growing.

01:02:28.409 --> 01:02:28.849
For me,

01:02:28.889 --> 01:02:30.570
there was definitely a difference

01:02:30.690 --> 01:02:32.050
in who had the most growth.

01:02:32.871 --> 01:02:35.855
And, of course,

01:02:35.894 --> 01:02:37.016
whose growth struggled a little bit.

01:02:38.538 --> 01:02:38.938
But, I mean,

01:02:38.978 --> 01:02:40.539
the kid actors were all great

01:02:40.579 --> 01:02:41.340
in their parts.

01:02:42.882 --> 01:02:43.963
Neil is the goodest boy.

01:02:44.764 --> 01:02:46.387
If anybody hurts Neil,

01:02:46.407 --> 01:02:47.307
you will answer to me.

01:02:48.068 --> 01:02:50.150
And everybody here on this podcast.

01:02:50.431 --> 01:02:51.632
And his girlfriend.

01:02:51.972 --> 01:02:52.574
Exactly.

01:02:52.634 --> 01:02:53.375
She can kick your ass.

01:02:53.735 --> 01:02:56.135
exactly exactly I I'm here

01:02:56.155 --> 01:02:57.175
for it I thought the kids

01:02:57.195 --> 01:02:59.177
were all well cast um and

01:02:59.617 --> 01:03:01.097
yeah the adults I'm with

01:03:01.137 --> 01:03:03.778
you randy on that I I have

01:03:03.818 --> 01:03:05.159
loads just although they

01:03:05.179 --> 01:03:06.800
did have the the dad had

01:03:06.880 --> 01:03:08.121
some some redeemable

01:03:08.161 --> 01:03:09.601
moments I just later later

01:03:09.722 --> 01:03:11.981
later but you know I I

01:03:12.061 --> 01:03:14.222
think I think I think a

01:03:14.242 --> 01:03:16.583
little compared to the mom

01:03:16.623 --> 01:03:17.724
compared to the mom

01:03:18.985 --> 01:03:20.166
Being a little harsh there, brother.

01:03:20.525 --> 01:03:21.505
Compared to the mom.

01:03:22.007 --> 01:03:24.248
Yeah.

01:03:24.768 --> 01:03:26.289
But this is really about the kids.

01:03:26.628 --> 01:03:28.248
As it should have been.

01:03:28.650 --> 01:03:29.829
And Jude Law.

01:03:31.371 --> 01:03:32.891
You greet the kids on the

01:03:32.931 --> 01:03:34.672
beach at the end after

01:03:34.692 --> 01:03:35.492
they've resolved the

01:03:35.512 --> 01:03:36.753
adventure on their own.

01:03:37.052 --> 01:03:38.353
That's how the formula works.

01:03:39.534 --> 01:03:40.235
I got you.

01:03:40.275 --> 01:03:40.855
That's true.

01:03:41.034 --> 01:03:41.614
Yeah, I...

01:03:46.215 --> 01:03:47.536
don't generally like kid

01:03:47.596 --> 01:03:50.336
actors uh they're mostly I

01:03:50.356 --> 01:03:51.838
feel like jude law and I'm

01:03:51.858 --> 01:03:54.059
like you're annoying you're

01:03:54.259 --> 01:03:57.400
so annoying but that wasn't

01:03:57.420 --> 01:04:00.023
the case here and um my

01:04:00.083 --> 01:04:01.322
sophie my daughter she was

01:04:01.342 --> 01:04:03.184
a huge fan of kb she loves

01:04:03.244 --> 01:04:04.764
a gal who's into who's a

01:04:04.804 --> 01:04:06.726
who's technical get the job

01:04:06.766 --> 01:04:09.768
done uh fern I felt at

01:04:09.807 --> 01:04:11.248
times was a little too one note

01:04:12.528 --> 01:04:13.570
But I feel like there was an

01:04:13.610 --> 01:04:14.469
episode where everything

01:04:14.489 --> 01:04:15.530
changed for this series,

01:04:15.550 --> 01:04:16.490
and that was episode five,

01:04:16.530 --> 01:04:18.510
when Jude Law has that

01:04:18.610 --> 01:04:20.192
really heartfelt speech with Wim.

01:04:20.952 --> 01:04:22.693
And then they all change for the better.

01:04:22.733 --> 01:04:23.572
They all evolve.

01:04:24.534 --> 01:04:25.534
Amanda, we talked about this,

01:04:25.614 --> 01:04:27.394
the scene with KB and Wim,

01:04:27.735 --> 01:04:29.255
when she's basically dying,

01:04:29.315 --> 01:04:31.536
and it's so suspenseful.

01:04:32.135 --> 01:04:33.456
Yeah.

01:04:34.958 --> 01:04:36.900
I mean, even for a, you know,

01:04:36.920 --> 01:04:38.141
for a forty three year old,

01:04:38.181 --> 01:04:38.800
it was a little scary

01:04:38.820 --> 01:04:40.422
because like those kids could die.

01:04:40.561 --> 01:04:42.083
Well, and I was like, and it's Wim.

01:04:42.103 --> 01:04:44.164
And it's Wim.

01:04:44.244 --> 01:04:44.724
It's Wim.

01:04:45.105 --> 01:04:46.264
That was my like.

01:04:47.085 --> 01:04:47.965
Yeah.

01:04:47.985 --> 01:04:48.867
You're like, you're calling him.

01:04:49.586 --> 01:04:49.827
Yeah.

01:04:49.867 --> 01:04:51.007
You're like, oh, push the button.

01:04:51.027 --> 01:04:53.708
You're like, baby boy, what are you doing?

01:04:53.728 --> 01:04:53.809
Yeah.

01:04:53.829 --> 01:04:55.570
I was like,

01:04:55.590 --> 01:04:56.610
someone that pushed the button.

01:04:56.630 --> 01:04:58.072
This is the one that doesn't

01:04:58.251 --> 01:04:59.231
listen to do it.

01:04:59.331 --> 01:05:01.934
I was like, oh, gosh, this is the Bryce.

01:05:02.014 --> 01:05:03.614
This is the Bryce Dallas Howard episode,

01:05:03.635 --> 01:05:03.974
wasn't it?

01:05:05.336 --> 01:05:05.416
Wow.

01:05:05.516 --> 01:05:06.077
Yeah, I think so.

01:05:06.097 --> 01:05:07.400
Let's talk about that for a second.

01:05:08.101 --> 01:05:09.623
Didn't she do the crab one

01:05:09.704 --> 01:05:10.865
with the giant crab puppet?

01:05:10.885 --> 01:05:11.387
This is the crab one.

01:05:11.407 --> 01:05:15.492
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:05:15.554 --> 01:05:17.637
When they're on the treasure,

01:05:17.737 --> 01:05:18.699
where they find the treasure.

01:05:19.574 --> 01:05:24.195
the spa they ruined it so

01:05:24.235 --> 01:05:26.416
nice I would have enjoyed

01:05:26.456 --> 01:05:28.436
that but I thought the cast

01:05:28.456 --> 01:05:30.617
was great Jude Law is I was

01:05:30.637 --> 01:05:31.536
telling Amanda up until the

01:05:31.556 --> 01:05:32.916
final moment I was like I

01:05:32.936 --> 01:05:33.938
was just hoping for this

01:05:33.998 --> 01:05:35.418
whole like wink I wasn't I

01:05:35.438 --> 01:05:36.557
was just being mean to you

01:05:36.577 --> 01:05:37.579
because I needed to keep my

01:05:37.619 --> 01:05:39.478
cover because I'm really the hero because

01:05:40.048 --> 01:05:41.090
You liked him that much and

01:05:41.110 --> 01:05:42.110
he was that convincing.

01:05:42.230 --> 01:05:43.251
That's what's great about

01:05:43.291 --> 01:05:44.070
that character because it's

01:05:44.090 --> 01:05:45.672
such a gray area character.

01:05:45.692 --> 01:05:47.012
He's based on Lon John Silver.

01:05:47.432 --> 01:05:49.114
Lon John Silver was not the good guy.

01:05:49.153 --> 01:05:50.295
He was not a protagonist.

01:05:50.655 --> 01:05:52.275
He was not redeemable at all.

01:05:52.655 --> 01:05:54.356
But here they made him

01:05:54.416 --> 01:05:55.878
redeemable and Amanda's right.

01:05:55.918 --> 01:05:58.039
We forget Jude Law, how great he is.

01:05:58.079 --> 01:05:59.800
Go watch a great underrated

01:05:59.840 --> 01:06:01.081
film that most people didn't see,

01:06:01.161 --> 01:06:02.481
Road to Perdition with Tom Hanks.

01:06:04.242 --> 01:06:05.543
One of Paul Newman's last roles.

01:06:05.882 --> 01:06:07.083
Jude Law, a very

01:06:07.483 --> 01:06:09.045
Before he was a star, Daniel Craig.

01:06:09.565 --> 01:06:10.585
Jude Law plays this

01:06:10.666 --> 01:06:13.688
gross-looking assassin.

01:06:13.748 --> 01:06:14.688
Fantastic in it.

01:06:16.610 --> 01:06:17.690
But he's done so much great stuff.

01:06:17.771 --> 01:06:18.552
He was fantastic.

01:06:18.592 --> 01:06:19.413
And I have to put over Nick

01:06:19.432 --> 01:06:20.934
Frost as SM-XXXIII.

01:06:20.954 --> 01:06:22.574
That's my dude.

01:06:22.695 --> 01:06:23.614
I love Nick Frost.

01:06:23.635 --> 01:06:25.257
I've been a fan of his forever.

01:06:25.757 --> 01:06:26.978
And he was the perfect...

01:06:28.197 --> 01:06:30.760
surly cranky bill bodkin of

01:06:30.780 --> 01:06:31.842
a robot if there ever was

01:06:31.862 --> 01:06:35.786
one and uh you know and I I

01:06:35.846 --> 01:06:36.746
actually didn't mind the

01:06:36.786 --> 01:06:38.248
parents you know tv on the

01:06:38.288 --> 01:06:40.349
radios lead singer was I

01:06:40.389 --> 01:06:41.572
thought he had some really

01:06:41.612 --> 01:06:42.833
good moments where you said

01:06:42.853 --> 01:06:45.735
like oh he is whim is his

01:06:45.775 --> 01:06:47.257
father's son you know and

01:06:47.277 --> 01:06:48.038
that was cool to see

01:06:48.077 --> 01:06:49.940
although he kind of he kind

01:06:49.980 --> 01:06:51.001
of beefed it in the end

01:06:51.684 --> 01:06:52.925
uh fern's mom they did he

01:06:52.945 --> 01:06:56.670
tried they just they they

01:06:56.690 --> 01:06:57.510
did her dirty with the

01:06:57.550 --> 01:06:59.251
writing because she's a

01:06:59.271 --> 01:07:00.572
good actress carrie condon

01:07:01.032 --> 01:07:02.034
but yeah overall it's a

01:07:02.054 --> 01:07:02.914
really good cast some good

01:07:02.934 --> 01:07:04.476
cameos in there and uh yeah

01:07:04.715 --> 01:07:05.817
I really like what they did

01:07:05.876 --> 01:07:08.500
here although apparently it

01:07:08.539 --> 01:07:09.981
was viewed for a billion

01:07:10.041 --> 01:07:11.481
minutes so I mean it can't be wow

01:07:12.737 --> 01:07:13.277
Yeah.

01:07:13.297 --> 01:07:15.860
There's a lot of shows you'd be surprised.

01:07:16.201 --> 01:07:18.384
So many people... I've seen

01:07:18.403 --> 01:07:20.405
that brought up today on a

01:07:20.465 --> 01:07:21.067
meme where they were

01:07:21.086 --> 01:07:21.927
talking about the number of

01:07:21.967 --> 01:07:22.768
people who viewed it.

01:07:22.789 --> 01:07:23.889
I'm like, a billion.

01:07:24.391 --> 01:07:24.811
That's...

01:07:25.673 --> 01:07:26.713
That's a lot of people who

01:07:26.793 --> 01:07:27.614
watch this show.

01:07:27.815 --> 01:07:28.894
No, it's a billion minutes,

01:07:28.914 --> 01:07:29.695
not a billion people.

01:07:29.954 --> 01:07:31.416
Well, yeah, a billion minutes.

01:07:31.536 --> 01:07:35.117
That's still a hefty change of people.

01:07:35.617 --> 01:07:37.878
And I think the show has legs, too,

01:07:37.918 --> 01:07:39.597
because I'm hearing more people,

01:07:39.697 --> 01:07:41.219
like just even my own social media,

01:07:41.239 --> 01:07:42.798
Amanda, I don't know about you or Randy,

01:07:44.619 --> 01:07:45.920
more people are catching it now.

01:07:46.880 --> 01:07:47.141
Yes.

01:07:47.860 --> 01:07:48.840
And I think that's like we

01:07:48.860 --> 01:07:50.521
have to reevaluate streaming.

01:07:50.541 --> 01:07:51.621
And I think companies still

01:07:51.641 --> 01:07:52.681
haven't done this yet with

01:07:52.702 --> 01:07:54.503
the stickiness of stuff of just like...

01:07:55.588 --> 01:07:56.429
lot of people wait till it's

01:07:56.510 --> 01:07:58.172
over then they watch it

01:07:58.672 --> 01:07:59.672
yeah wait for socially

01:07:59.733 --> 01:08:01.494
distance or this podcast to

01:08:01.534 --> 01:08:02.376
come out and they're like

01:08:02.436 --> 01:08:04.538
oh smart people and that

01:08:04.597 --> 01:08:05.599
dilfy son of a bill said

01:08:05.639 --> 01:08:09.481
watch the show yeah you got

01:08:09.501 --> 01:08:10.483
to show some faith in a

01:08:10.523 --> 01:08:11.764
project and all the stuff

01:08:11.784 --> 01:08:12.804
they did with practical

01:08:12.864 --> 01:08:14.487
effects on this show like

01:08:14.907 --> 01:08:16.368
like the big set piece is

01:08:16.408 --> 01:08:18.149
that stop motion crab

01:08:19.030 --> 01:08:20.512
situation that looked hours

01:08:20.573 --> 01:08:22.213
upon hours upon hours upon

01:08:22.274 --> 01:08:24.756
days upon days to just do

01:08:25.237 --> 01:08:27.298
like small portions to move

01:08:27.319 --> 01:08:29.820
a leg I've seen the um

01:08:30.542 --> 01:08:32.884
behind the scenes on that I

01:08:33.404 --> 01:08:34.525
mean just at the end of the day

01:08:36.220 --> 01:08:37.280
We don't just want washed

01:08:37.381 --> 01:08:38.841
out CGI all the time.

01:08:39.502 --> 01:08:39.641
No,

01:08:39.681 --> 01:08:43.224
that was one of those... You want real

01:08:43.283 --> 01:08:43.644
stuff,

01:08:43.663 --> 01:08:45.505
like the completely real Tak

01:08:45.524 --> 01:08:47.586
Renaud's lair behind me.

01:08:48.867 --> 01:08:51.967
Which I thought actually was real.

01:08:51.988 --> 01:08:58.011
There's a sucker born every day.

01:08:58.051 --> 01:09:03.054
We don't have to talk about

01:09:03.274 --> 01:09:04.694
each and every single episode.

01:09:04.734 --> 01:09:05.055
Let's

01:09:06.088 --> 01:09:06.930
let's just answer some

01:09:06.970 --> 01:09:08.150
questions that I stole from

01:09:08.211 --> 01:09:12.474
amanda human star wars

01:09:12.514 --> 01:09:14.274
encyclopedia amanda rivas

01:09:14.675 --> 01:09:17.176
for a reason they were good

01:09:17.256 --> 01:09:18.557
questions so I was just

01:09:18.578 --> 01:09:19.738
like hey amanda I'm gonna

01:09:19.958 --> 01:09:21.220
borrow some stuff from you

01:09:22.121 --> 01:09:24.222
and we'll throw some more

01:09:24.262 --> 01:09:28.345
stuff in as we go so I know this question

01:09:30.720 --> 01:09:31.720
So I like this one.

01:09:31.740 --> 01:09:31.961
Yeah.

01:09:32.400 --> 01:09:34.563
Who do you think John not

01:09:34.603 --> 01:09:36.444
not Narwood really is?

01:09:37.364 --> 01:09:39.006
And at the end of the day,

01:09:39.445 --> 01:09:40.627
how did you feel him about

01:09:40.646 --> 01:09:42.328
him being the the villain?

01:09:43.108 --> 01:09:44.548
And what did you think about

01:09:44.609 --> 01:09:45.869
Jude Law's performance as this?

01:09:45.909 --> 01:09:47.011
I know we've already touched on it.

01:09:47.030 --> 01:09:47.971
So it's a perfect time to

01:09:47.992 --> 01:09:49.912
kind of just dive into that one.

01:09:51.673 --> 01:09:54.855
And Crimson Jack is not a wrong answer.

01:09:54.916 --> 01:09:55.997
No, I loved it, though.

01:09:56.617 --> 01:09:56.837
I didn't.

01:09:56.898 --> 01:09:57.518
Yeah, me too.

01:09:57.978 --> 01:09:58.698
I love that reference.

01:09:58.719 --> 01:10:00.239
I'll never get tired of that reference.

01:10:04.832 --> 01:10:07.796
I think he is someone we are,

01:10:08.115 --> 01:10:09.278
this is not a real answer,

01:10:09.337 --> 01:10:11.060
but he is someone we have

01:10:11.119 --> 01:10:12.402
not seen the last of.

01:10:13.103 --> 01:10:14.564
I feel like he is a

01:10:14.604 --> 01:10:15.747
character that we're going

01:10:15.766 --> 01:10:17.529
to see in twenty twenty six

01:10:17.609 --> 01:10:19.011
on the big screen in Krogu

01:10:19.070 --> 01:10:19.792
and the Mandalorian.

01:10:20.592 --> 01:10:22.394
You don't just do a one-off with Jude Law.

01:10:23.135 --> 01:10:24.095
Especially if this takes

01:10:24.135 --> 01:10:25.235
place in the Mandoverse,

01:10:25.275 --> 01:10:26.436
which I don't know if this

01:10:26.476 --> 01:10:27.176
is a question or not.

01:10:27.197 --> 01:10:28.318
I'm glad we didn't get any

01:10:28.377 --> 01:10:30.198
Mando cameos or characters.

01:10:32.340 --> 01:10:33.440
We got the one.

01:10:33.581 --> 01:10:34.421
And that was fine.

01:10:34.902 --> 01:10:35.783
Which is, if people don't know,

01:10:35.823 --> 01:10:36.703
it's one of the pirates.

01:10:36.762 --> 01:10:40.284
It's the pirate who discovers the money.

01:10:40.645 --> 01:10:43.506
But if you don't know that,

01:10:43.868 --> 01:10:45.028
you're not missing anything.

01:10:45.347 --> 01:10:46.368
But if you do know that,

01:10:47.069 --> 01:10:47.750
obviously I didn't.

01:10:48.521 --> 01:10:49.622
Uh, or at least I forgot,

01:10:49.662 --> 01:10:50.304
like I always do.

01:10:50.984 --> 01:10:51.765
It's even sweeter.

01:10:51.885 --> 01:10:52.326
So, I mean,

01:10:52.525 --> 01:10:54.627
there's a tie there into this

01:10:54.688 --> 01:10:55.828
and that's what I want to see.

01:10:55.868 --> 01:10:57.090
Like, I'm sorry.

01:10:57.784 --> 01:10:58.104
Amanda,

01:10:58.125 --> 01:10:59.445
how do you feel about Jude Law and

01:10:59.466 --> 01:11:01.688
Pedro getting on screen together?

01:11:02.387 --> 01:11:02.588
I mean,

01:11:02.668 --> 01:11:04.729
I think that would be pretty crazy.

01:11:06.110 --> 01:11:07.891
Somebody will have to do a welfare check?

01:11:07.992 --> 01:11:08.693
Wellness check?

01:11:08.733 --> 01:11:10.694
Somebody's got to check on me.

01:11:11.034 --> 01:11:12.135
Brandon's just going to fill

01:11:12.154 --> 01:11:12.996
a popcorn bucket full of

01:11:13.036 --> 01:11:16.158
water and just dump it on you.

01:11:16.177 --> 01:11:19.360
Hey, Brandon, check on Amanda.

01:11:19.921 --> 01:11:21.381
We'll have loads to say next

01:11:21.402 --> 01:11:22.703
time you bring on a Star Wars podcast.

01:11:22.722 --> 01:11:24.264
We will.

01:11:25.545 --> 01:11:27.565
I had to save her life more

01:11:27.586 --> 01:11:30.667
than once during this TV series.

01:11:31.309 --> 01:11:32.628
I think it's like we're

01:11:32.649 --> 01:11:33.770
going to see this character

01:11:33.829 --> 01:11:36.072
getting too good to pass up, too charming,

01:11:36.212 --> 01:11:39.873
and has a lot of, Randy,

01:11:39.894 --> 01:11:41.255
I'm going to just borrow your phrase,

01:11:41.274 --> 01:11:43.176
a lot of runway left where

01:11:43.216 --> 01:11:44.997
this could be an antagonist,

01:11:45.476 --> 01:11:46.377
or it could be an ally,

01:11:46.837 --> 01:11:48.418
or given what we know of

01:11:48.599 --> 01:11:51.100
this Filoni-verse, a little bit of both.

01:11:51.121 --> 01:11:51.320
Yeah.

01:11:51.341 --> 01:11:54.922
We'll go over to you, Randy.

01:11:56.180 --> 01:11:57.220
Yeah, I mean, listen,

01:11:57.240 --> 01:11:58.461
I'm going to go out and say

01:11:58.681 --> 01:11:59.582
I don't even know if I

01:11:59.601 --> 01:12:01.122
would call him the villain

01:12:02.021 --> 01:12:03.122
of Skeleton Crew.

01:12:03.882 --> 01:12:05.042
I'm being a little bit

01:12:05.063 --> 01:12:06.582
playful with my language here.

01:12:06.603 --> 01:12:07.922
You're saying it's the parents.

01:12:08.163 --> 01:12:09.043
You're saying it's the parents.

01:12:10.304 --> 01:12:11.024
I mean, yes.

01:12:11.764 --> 01:12:12.484
Okay, listen.

01:12:13.685 --> 01:12:14.925
When you're in a movie like

01:12:14.965 --> 01:12:16.444
this and you've been a

01:12:16.505 --> 01:12:17.725
total piece of shit the

01:12:17.765 --> 01:12:20.166
entire time and the villain

01:12:20.466 --> 01:12:21.786
has a lightsaber to your

01:12:21.826 --> 01:12:23.067
throat and your son can

01:12:23.247 --> 01:12:24.167
save the galaxy...

01:12:25.798 --> 01:12:27.180
You have to be, like, selfless.

01:12:27.199 --> 01:12:29.520
You're like, no, do it, Wim.

01:12:29.541 --> 01:12:30.481
But no, he's like, Wim,

01:12:31.021 --> 01:12:31.822
let him have what he wants

01:12:31.862 --> 01:12:32.842
so I can survive.

01:12:32.863 --> 01:12:34.243
And I was like, dude, come on.

01:12:34.684 --> 01:12:35.304
You had one job.

01:12:35.765 --> 01:12:36.225
No, but no,

01:12:36.524 --> 01:12:38.185
I think it's just the galaxy in general,

01:12:38.246 --> 01:12:38.525
right?

01:12:39.707 --> 01:12:41.728
I know we got a lot of lies from Jod,

01:12:41.768 --> 01:12:42.889
but I am inclined to

01:12:42.929 --> 01:12:44.429
believe we got more or less

01:12:44.469 --> 01:12:46.530
the real story from him at the end where,

01:12:46.591 --> 01:12:48.551
like, he was taken in by a Jedi,

01:12:48.631 --> 01:12:50.212
partially trained, and...

01:12:51.359 --> 01:12:52.720
thrown away basically like

01:12:52.760 --> 01:12:54.421
the the jedi are a pretty

01:12:54.480 --> 01:12:55.740
screwed up organization

01:12:55.801 --> 01:12:56.820
like taking children from

01:12:56.841 --> 01:12:59.362
their families thrown away

01:12:59.381 --> 01:13:00.643
yeah she found him after

01:13:00.722 --> 01:13:02.002
order of sixty six she

01:13:02.023 --> 01:13:04.162
herself was a padawan she

01:13:04.203 --> 01:13:06.043
still had her brain so she

01:13:06.064 --> 01:13:07.644
wasn't even a full-up jedi

01:13:07.703 --> 01:13:10.425
knight yet so okay so I'll

01:13:11.564 --> 01:13:13.485
I won't push back on that but

01:13:15.567 --> 01:13:17.167
What I would say here is

01:13:17.908 --> 01:13:21.029
this Jedi way is so coded in, like,

01:13:21.069 --> 01:13:23.690
these controlling, limiting methods.

01:13:23.770 --> 01:13:24.912
So, you know,

01:13:25.051 --> 01:13:25.792
I'm forgetting his

01:13:25.832 --> 01:13:27.212
word-for-word speech about

01:13:27.313 --> 01:13:28.172
the falling out here,

01:13:28.193 --> 01:13:29.012
if they drifted away

01:13:29.052 --> 01:13:30.213
naturally or if there was

01:13:30.253 --> 01:13:31.314
any sort of disagreement.

01:13:31.333 --> 01:13:32.574
No, she got killed by Inquisitors.

01:13:33.996 --> 01:13:34.355
Okay,

01:13:37.297 --> 01:13:39.600
so he's left partially trained or

01:13:39.619 --> 01:13:40.000
whatever,

01:13:40.340 --> 01:13:41.980
but the reason I'm excited by that,

01:13:42.001 --> 01:13:43.301
and I would love to see him again,

01:13:44.381 --> 01:13:45.882
is what I want from Star

01:13:45.922 --> 01:13:47.824
Wars is I want the gray area.

01:13:48.244 --> 01:13:49.586
I want those gray Jedi,

01:13:49.605 --> 01:13:51.306
and every time they veer toward it,

01:13:51.346 --> 01:13:52.707
they chicken out.

01:13:53.387 --> 01:13:55.208
They chicken out at the last second.

01:13:56.029 --> 01:13:58.152
And I want them to just lean into it.

01:13:58.171 --> 01:14:00.073
Like we got pretty close with the Acolyte,

01:14:00.153 --> 01:14:01.453
but then they went and canceled it.

01:14:01.554 --> 01:14:02.795
So we don't get to continue

01:14:02.814 --> 01:14:04.416
to fully explore the most

01:14:04.475 --> 01:14:06.377
promising characters from that series.

01:14:06.398 --> 01:14:07.479
I mean, maybe we will.

01:14:08.520 --> 01:14:09.760
Those arms might be back.

01:14:11.742 --> 01:14:12.122
I hope.

01:14:12.662 --> 01:14:14.384
But like Judd could be a guy

01:14:14.423 --> 01:14:17.747
where he is a selfish piece of garbage.

01:14:17.787 --> 01:14:18.747
Wait, what's Dark Forces canon?

01:14:18.766 --> 01:14:20.328
There's no such thing as a Grey Jedi.

01:14:21.425 --> 01:14:25.006
This is zero.

01:14:25.027 --> 01:14:25.648
This is Bill,

01:14:25.688 --> 01:14:26.408
and we're talking about his

01:14:26.448 --> 01:14:27.349
hair and my beard.

01:14:28.609 --> 01:14:30.990
I would just love to see him

01:14:31.591 --> 01:14:32.872
continue to be someone who

01:14:32.952 --> 01:14:33.893
is self-serving,

01:14:34.052 --> 01:14:35.993
but he's sometimes more complicated.

01:14:36.054 --> 01:14:37.395
He may have a redemption arc,

01:14:37.414 --> 01:14:38.836
but I'm not in a rush for it.

01:14:40.002 --> 01:14:40.162
You know,

01:14:40.202 --> 01:14:41.643
my favorite gray Jedi is from

01:14:41.703 --> 01:14:42.743
video game lore,

01:14:43.604 --> 01:14:44.865
which is no longer canon.

01:14:44.926 --> 01:14:46.987
But I love to talk about my guy,

01:14:47.046 --> 01:14:50.668
Jolie Bindo from the Republic,

01:14:50.689 --> 01:14:53.091
who is an overall well-meaning guy.

01:14:53.150 --> 01:14:55.152
But he's someone who left the Jedi Order.

01:14:55.273 --> 01:14:56.894
He's someone who worked as a smuggler.

01:14:57.833 --> 01:14:59.435
And I want to lean into that.

01:14:59.475 --> 01:14:59.614
Like,

01:14:59.635 --> 01:15:02.417
there's a way to access the force

01:15:02.457 --> 01:15:03.837
that's not Jedi coded.

01:15:03.858 --> 01:15:05.259
And I'm still waiting for

01:15:05.279 --> 01:15:05.899
them to get there.

01:15:05.939 --> 01:15:07.640
And Jod's a possibility for it.

01:15:07.780 --> 01:15:09.381
So that's my excitement for him.

01:15:11.363 --> 01:15:14.323
it's acceptable I like it I

01:15:14.344 --> 01:15:15.585
want randy to write the new

01:15:15.604 --> 01:15:17.485
the next time please as

01:15:17.506 --> 01:15:18.305
long as he doesn't use the

01:15:18.326 --> 01:15:21.046
term gray jedi oh I want I

01:15:21.087 --> 01:15:22.328
want him the gray jedi all

01:15:22.368 --> 01:15:27.449
over the place it's going

01:15:27.470 --> 01:15:29.291
to be a lot of people talking in rooms

01:15:30.872 --> 01:15:31.792
As long as you're right.

01:15:35.335 --> 01:15:36.494
It's going to be very stage

01:15:36.576 --> 01:15:37.315
play Star Wars.

01:15:37.336 --> 01:15:37.416
Yes.

01:15:43.659 --> 01:15:44.800
As long as one of those Jedi

01:15:44.819 --> 01:15:45.881
is Chris Angersall, they won't be.

01:15:46.265 --> 01:15:46.706
please.

01:15:47.166 --> 01:15:47.907
As long as one of those,

01:15:48.067 --> 01:15:48.667
I'm here for that.

01:15:48.907 --> 01:15:49.806
And then if you can just

01:15:49.846 --> 01:15:50.827
write a part for Manny

01:15:50.886 --> 01:15:52.068
Jacinto to just show up

01:15:52.228 --> 01:15:55.128
with his arms again, that would be great.

01:15:55.189 --> 01:15:55.588
I mean, listen,

01:15:55.649 --> 01:15:57.469
I think they established

01:15:57.488 --> 01:15:58.949
him as ageless enough that

01:15:59.109 --> 01:16:00.189
if they want to bring him back,

01:16:00.210 --> 01:16:00.970
I think they can.

01:16:01.310 --> 01:16:02.530
A thousand plus years?

01:16:03.110 --> 01:16:04.371
There you go.

01:16:04.492 --> 01:16:06.212
Yoda was like seven thousand years old,

01:16:06.231 --> 01:16:06.471
right?

01:16:08.073 --> 01:16:10.993
Come on.

01:16:11.012 --> 01:16:11.514
Nine hundred.

01:16:11.533 --> 01:16:12.814
That one wasn't nine hundred or so years.

01:16:12.833 --> 01:16:13.474
It was Luke's incisive

01:16:13.514 --> 01:16:14.795
questioning that didn't let

01:16:14.835 --> 01:16:15.335
him live to a thousand.

01:16:15.354 --> 01:16:15.814
Sorry, I realized

01:16:16.856 --> 01:16:17.698
This was not meant to be an

01:16:17.797 --> 01:16:18.859
Acolyte podcast.

01:16:18.918 --> 01:16:19.739
I apologize.

01:16:19.960 --> 01:16:22.442
No, you're flying, man.

01:16:22.563 --> 01:16:23.283
It's timely.

01:16:23.302 --> 01:16:24.043
It was one of the most

01:16:24.083 --> 01:16:25.064
watched things on Disney

01:16:25.085 --> 01:16:26.565
Plus in twenty twenty four.

01:16:26.926 --> 01:16:28.828
So despite that,

01:16:28.908 --> 01:16:32.692
and there's always room for the Acolyte.

01:16:32.712 --> 01:16:33.172
We know.

01:16:33.212 --> 01:16:33.493
Oh, my God.

01:16:35.746 --> 01:16:37.306
I'm here for the lightsaber battles, too.

01:16:37.346 --> 01:16:37.948
Come on now.

01:16:38.028 --> 01:16:38.728
Those were great.

01:16:39.729 --> 01:16:39.969
I mean,

01:16:39.988 --> 01:16:42.411
we did get to see a crystal get bled, so.

01:16:42.650 --> 01:16:43.511
Yeah, we did.

01:16:43.591 --> 01:16:45.493
We got that, and we had, you know, again,

01:16:45.512 --> 01:16:45.592
just.

01:16:45.653 --> 01:16:47.354
We almost had Keanu Reeves as a Jedi, so.

01:16:48.243 --> 01:16:49.764
You know, it's never too late.

01:16:50.345 --> 01:16:51.666
Well, as a Jedi.

01:16:51.746 --> 01:16:53.087
I prefer Sith.

01:16:53.346 --> 01:16:54.488
Bring me Darth Revan, please.

01:16:54.908 --> 01:16:56.369
Of course you prefer Sith.

01:16:56.390 --> 01:16:57.970
You're like your Jedi.

01:16:57.990 --> 01:16:59.832
You're like your kings.

01:17:00.092 --> 01:17:00.573
Short name.

01:17:00.654 --> 01:17:01.713
This is true.

01:17:02.515 --> 01:17:04.737
Did you say we got Keanu Reeves as a Jedi?

01:17:04.957 --> 01:17:08.500
He was supposed to be the lead of... No.

01:17:08.921 --> 01:17:10.042
No, they're talking about that, too.

01:17:10.721 --> 01:17:11.882
Oh, well, he was supposed to be...

01:17:13.984 --> 01:17:16.065
Christ, I can't remember his name.

01:17:16.145 --> 01:17:18.268
He was supposed to be the

01:17:18.287 --> 01:17:21.510
head guy in The Acolyte.

01:17:21.850 --> 01:17:22.109
Oh.

01:17:22.130 --> 01:17:22.511
Squid Game.

01:17:22.530 --> 01:17:24.091
It was originally supposed

01:17:24.112 --> 01:17:24.971
to be Keanu Reeves.

01:17:24.992 --> 01:17:25.672
Yes, that's right.

01:17:25.693 --> 01:17:26.632
But he had to pull out due

01:17:26.653 --> 01:17:27.234
to other commitments,

01:17:27.293 --> 01:17:28.295
or he couldn't commit fully,

01:17:28.354 --> 01:17:29.274
so they brought in the

01:17:29.314 --> 01:17:30.115
actor from Squid Game.

01:17:30.336 --> 01:17:32.658
Bill, I've got such good news for you.

01:17:34.038 --> 01:17:35.439
You can catch Keanu as an

01:17:35.579 --> 01:17:36.980
anthropomorphic animated

01:17:37.100 --> 01:17:38.100
office building in an

01:17:38.140 --> 01:17:39.282
episode of Severance.

01:17:39.341 --> 01:17:40.243
Wait, he's a building?

01:17:41.529 --> 01:17:43.831
He's an animated building that talks.

01:17:44.190 --> 01:17:46.612
Is he the building that they work in?

01:17:46.652 --> 01:17:48.953
Because that's ten minutes from my house.

01:17:50.154 --> 01:17:51.194
Yep, yep, yep.

01:17:51.314 --> 01:17:54.996
He's just a corporate video cartoon voice.

01:17:55.036 --> 01:17:57.676
He's basically Mr. DNA from Jurassic Park.

01:17:57.737 --> 01:17:57.877
Nice.

01:17:58.997 --> 01:18:00.177
An animation of the building.

01:18:00.337 --> 01:18:01.278
So Bill's going to go walk

01:18:01.297 --> 01:18:01.918
by that building.

01:18:01.939 --> 01:18:04.279
I could drive there.

01:18:04.319 --> 01:18:08.060
Let's walk in distance from Bill.

01:18:08.801 --> 01:18:09.862
Hey, I'm a building.

01:18:12.073 --> 01:18:16.595
that's pretty much it yes

01:18:16.655 --> 01:18:19.497
Johnny Monomic nice a DVD

01:18:19.738 --> 01:18:21.578
that my dad got me as a

01:18:21.679 --> 01:18:23.100
joke Christmas present one

01:18:23.159 --> 01:18:25.282
year and I tried to trade

01:18:25.322 --> 01:18:27.063
it in to Suncoast Video

01:18:27.823 --> 01:18:29.484
they would never take it

01:18:30.385 --> 01:18:31.805
they said we cannot even

01:18:31.845 --> 01:18:33.587
give you a dollar for this

01:18:34.106 --> 01:18:35.247
this movie is worth a

01:18:35.307 --> 01:18:37.250
quarter and we do not trade

01:18:37.289 --> 01:18:38.590
in for movies less than a

01:18:38.670 --> 01:18:39.350
dollar I was like

01:18:40.185 --> 01:18:41.287
I just threw it out after a while.

01:18:41.466 --> 01:18:42.087
What do you think the

01:18:42.127 --> 01:18:43.609
percentage of former

01:18:45.493 --> 01:18:46.373
employees of that

01:18:46.413 --> 01:18:50.260
particular store now run a podcast?

01:18:50.359 --> 01:18:52.764
Ninety nine percent because

01:18:52.804 --> 01:18:53.765
there was that one dude who

01:18:53.805 --> 01:18:54.546
just didn't give a shit.

01:18:55.987 --> 01:18:57.106
And it's all still from

01:18:57.127 --> 01:18:58.167
their mom's basement.

01:18:58.188 --> 01:19:04.529
Alright, guys.

01:19:04.548 --> 01:19:08.990
The floor's so strong with this one, man.

01:19:09.831 --> 01:19:10.110
I cannot.

01:19:10.131 --> 01:19:12.131
We miss poor Jod and Jude

01:19:12.171 --> 01:19:15.252
Law and his delfiness.

01:19:16.051 --> 01:19:17.953
Let's jump over to the kids now.

01:19:18.693 --> 01:19:20.854
Which of these kids, in y'all's opinion,

01:19:20.873 --> 01:19:22.793
got the best arc and best

01:19:22.833 --> 01:19:24.175
redemption out of all of them?

01:19:24.215 --> 01:19:25.154
Who had the most growth?

01:19:27.676 --> 01:19:30.337
See, I'm restructuring her questions.

01:19:30.377 --> 01:19:30.738
KB.

01:19:34.158 --> 01:19:34.498
Randy,

01:19:35.219 --> 01:19:36.238
are you going to be the odd man out

01:19:36.259 --> 01:19:37.139
and go with somebody different?

01:19:37.498 --> 01:19:38.259
I'll be the odd man out.

01:19:38.359 --> 01:19:40.000
Listen, I love KB.

01:19:40.260 --> 01:19:40.920
She's awesome,

01:19:40.939 --> 01:19:43.220
but she was so self-assured.

01:19:43.239 --> 01:19:44.980
She does have to stand up to Fern,

01:19:45.020 --> 01:19:45.501
finally.

01:19:47.161 --> 01:19:48.502
But in terms of an arc,

01:19:48.561 --> 01:19:49.742
I'm going to actually go

01:19:49.862 --> 01:19:51.242
and give it to Wim.

01:19:51.561 --> 01:19:54.422
That's what I went with the first time,

01:19:54.462 --> 01:19:54.662
too.

01:19:55.565 --> 01:19:55.987
Yeah,

01:19:56.087 --> 01:19:58.329
like he's going from this kid who's

01:19:58.369 --> 01:19:59.310
playing with his toys.

01:19:59.350 --> 01:20:00.591
He's got these really simple

01:20:00.632 --> 01:20:03.896
versions of Jedi and Sith in his mind.

01:20:03.917 --> 01:20:04.557
And that's certainly

01:20:04.597 --> 01:20:06.600
complicated through his voyage.

01:20:07.220 --> 01:20:09.384
But, you know, he is able...

01:20:10.747 --> 01:20:12.588
to in that moment with KB,

01:20:12.628 --> 01:20:14.489
he's able to find some

01:20:14.529 --> 01:20:16.350
focus and patience within himself.

01:20:17.212 --> 01:20:18.632
He's able to lean into his

01:20:18.653 --> 01:20:19.893
skills and come up and tell

01:20:19.912 --> 01:20:21.154
that distracting story.

01:20:21.954 --> 01:20:22.555
And as much as I've

01:20:22.614 --> 01:20:24.015
complained about his dad,

01:20:24.475 --> 01:20:25.697
he definitely does the most

01:20:25.777 --> 01:20:27.377
work to like push his dad

01:20:27.417 --> 01:20:28.398
in the right direction,

01:20:28.457 --> 01:20:29.918
to instruct him on something,

01:20:29.958 --> 01:20:30.840
to bring him somewhere.

01:20:31.460 --> 01:20:32.280
And I also just thought he

01:20:32.301 --> 01:20:33.983
was so fun overall.

01:20:34.082 --> 01:20:34.783
I realize that's a little

01:20:34.804 --> 01:20:35.805
bit different than an arc,

01:20:36.225 --> 01:20:37.127
but one of my favorite

01:20:37.146 --> 01:20:37.967
things about that

01:20:38.349 --> 01:20:39.689
performance in particular

01:20:40.230 --> 01:20:41.591
is the lines of dialogue

01:20:41.612 --> 01:20:42.613
they wrote for him that

01:20:42.654 --> 01:20:44.034
just sounded like a kid,

01:20:44.555 --> 01:20:46.278
like just little grammatical errors,

01:20:46.318 --> 01:20:47.659
like referring to Jedis

01:20:47.920 --> 01:20:49.502
with the S at the end.

01:20:51.784 --> 01:20:52.744
I didn't write it down,

01:20:52.784 --> 01:20:53.565
but I think when they're

01:20:53.586 --> 01:20:54.747
trying to escape from that

01:20:55.046 --> 01:20:58.088
machine at the end of episode six,

01:20:58.630 --> 01:21:01.091
he's like, it's chomped down too hard.

01:21:01.412 --> 01:21:02.773
It's just always some

01:21:02.993 --> 01:21:04.234
phraseology that a kid

01:21:04.253 --> 01:21:05.475
would really come up with.

01:21:06.015 --> 01:21:07.235
I love that about him.

01:21:07.976 --> 01:21:09.917
And we go from activating

01:21:09.957 --> 01:21:11.698
the lightsaber backwards to

01:21:12.159 --> 01:21:13.480
being able to stand up to a

01:21:13.520 --> 01:21:14.902
legit pirate and

01:21:16.095 --> 01:21:17.336
He really helped everyone grow,

01:21:17.395 --> 01:21:19.337
including Neil, my guy Neil.

01:21:19.878 --> 01:21:20.619
So there you go.

01:21:20.640 --> 01:21:24.144
Yeah, well said, Randy.

01:21:24.203 --> 01:21:25.944
Well said on Wim.

01:21:26.126 --> 01:21:26.305
I mean,

01:21:26.706 --> 01:21:27.846
I was always a little bit partial

01:21:27.867 --> 01:21:28.828
to Wim because he reminds

01:21:28.868 --> 01:21:29.869
me of so much of my own kiddo.

01:21:29.890 --> 01:21:29.989
Yeah.

01:21:30.010 --> 01:21:34.073
At times, he did, and still does.

01:21:34.094 --> 01:21:35.255
A little mischievous.

01:21:35.636 --> 01:21:36.796
Yeah, definitely.

01:21:36.817 --> 01:21:37.356
What's this button do?

01:21:38.177 --> 01:21:39.597
but my little little revis

01:21:39.618 --> 01:21:40.097
would have pushed the

01:21:40.118 --> 01:21:41.658
button a thousand and ten

01:21:41.679 --> 01:21:43.439
percent a thousand and ten

01:21:43.458 --> 01:21:44.599
percent would he have

01:21:44.618 --> 01:21:45.420
stabbed himself with the

01:21:45.439 --> 01:21:46.880
lightsaber like nearly

01:21:46.920 --> 01:21:47.880
stabbed himself holding

01:21:47.899 --> 01:21:49.939
upside down absolutely okay

01:21:50.039 --> 01:21:51.020
it's okay though you can

01:21:51.121 --> 01:21:52.440
live from that now only

01:21:52.480 --> 01:21:54.541
qui-gon guys from them this

01:21:54.600 --> 01:21:56.362
is true yeah this is true

01:21:56.881 --> 01:21:58.521
but well said well said on

01:21:58.822 --> 01:22:02.682
on whim but what did you

01:22:02.722 --> 01:22:05.863
think jeff you know what I

01:22:05.884 --> 01:22:07.003
went with will last time

01:22:08.430 --> 01:22:09.029
This time,

01:22:09.850 --> 01:22:12.851
I'm going to go with my guy Neil.

01:22:12.891 --> 01:22:13.011
Nice.

01:22:16.533 --> 01:22:18.233
Not because he's an easy answer,

01:22:19.293 --> 01:22:20.713
but because seeing him up

01:22:20.753 --> 01:22:22.335
there on that big old

01:22:22.375 --> 01:22:24.274
cannon blasting at pirates

01:22:25.195 --> 01:22:26.536
was not the thing I was

01:22:26.615 --> 01:22:28.317
expecting to really see from Neil.

01:22:29.382 --> 01:22:30.944
So seeing his growth from

01:22:31.003 --> 01:22:34.404
the scared child to this, oh,

01:22:34.444 --> 01:22:35.565
let me climb up the ladder

01:22:35.586 --> 01:22:36.565
and get on this blaster

01:22:36.586 --> 01:22:38.707
cannon and start blasting pirates.

01:22:39.266 --> 01:22:42.128
That was kind of like, my dude,

01:22:42.448 --> 01:22:43.208
that's what's up.

01:22:43.828 --> 01:22:44.710
And he got the girls.

01:22:45.489 --> 01:22:45.930
He did.

01:22:46.530 --> 01:22:47.211
It's the trunk.

01:22:47.671 --> 01:22:49.112
They say it's not the size of the trunk,

01:22:49.152 --> 01:22:50.832
but they'll prove different.

01:22:51.632 --> 01:22:51.832
I mean,

01:22:51.872 --> 01:22:53.993
I think it was more his overalls

01:22:54.554 --> 01:22:55.073
that really sold.

01:22:55.094 --> 01:22:56.375
It's been those last gosh, but gosh,

01:22:56.435 --> 01:22:57.435
overalls he was rocking.

01:22:57.755 --> 01:22:58.695
And that like comb over.

01:23:00.850 --> 01:23:02.030
I heard it works.

01:23:03.152 --> 01:23:05.393
I think it was that really

01:23:05.533 --> 01:23:08.213
attractive moral strength

01:23:08.253 --> 01:23:09.494
of character and emotional

01:23:09.534 --> 01:23:11.355
intelligence that the ladies go for.

01:23:11.395 --> 01:23:16.297
Girls don't dig that no more.

01:23:16.318 --> 01:23:17.038
What are you talking about?

01:23:17.059 --> 01:23:17.378
Yes, we do.

01:23:17.399 --> 01:23:18.899
I don't know.

01:23:18.939 --> 01:23:20.020
This new generation, man.

01:23:20.279 --> 01:23:21.140
They go for emotional

01:23:21.161 --> 01:23:22.322
intelligence and moral centers.

01:23:22.362 --> 01:23:22.881
I'll tell you that.

01:23:23.774 --> 01:23:26.136
Like, she's never seen kindness before.

01:23:26.176 --> 01:23:27.798
That's pretty much how she phrases it.

01:23:27.939 --> 01:23:31.622
And she likes what she sees.

01:23:31.641 --> 01:23:31.921
Yeah.

01:23:31.983 --> 01:23:32.943
Emotional IQ.

01:23:33.002 --> 01:23:33.923
High emotional IQ.

01:23:33.963 --> 01:23:35.305
Go, Neil.

01:23:35.786 --> 01:23:36.246
Go, Neil.

01:23:36.487 --> 01:23:36.766
Although,

01:23:36.827 --> 01:23:38.268
I would say he took the most bumps.

01:23:38.307 --> 01:23:38.969
Like, the most risks.

01:23:39.009 --> 01:23:39.168
He did.

01:23:39.189 --> 01:23:39.309
He did.

01:23:39.328 --> 01:23:40.951
I was like.

01:23:40.990 --> 01:23:41.211
He did.

01:23:41.230 --> 01:23:44.493
He definitely.

01:23:44.673 --> 01:23:46.335
He has a couple cracked ribs.

01:23:46.496 --> 01:23:47.336
That final one.

01:23:47.376 --> 01:23:48.596
Shmi almost got him.

01:23:48.938 --> 01:23:49.478
Shmi almost got him.

01:23:51.307 --> 01:23:56.353
He went nuts at the was it the temple?

01:23:58.014 --> 01:23:59.595
I will say out of all the parents,

01:23:59.654 --> 01:24:01.777
Neil's parents were also my favorite.

01:24:02.158 --> 01:24:02.518
Yes.

01:24:04.038 --> 01:24:06.060
His dad was a big old fella.

01:24:07.662 --> 01:24:10.125
Yeah, you don't mess with him.

01:24:11.729 --> 01:24:13.190
yeah that's why they didn't

01:24:13.230 --> 01:24:14.271
put him in because like oh

01:24:14.292 --> 01:24:15.252
man he's got some weight

01:24:15.273 --> 01:24:15.953
behind him he definitely

01:24:16.534 --> 01:24:17.375
yeah he definitely knocked

01:24:17.395 --> 01:24:18.837
somebody out like he's got

01:24:18.856 --> 01:24:20.177
that dad beer strength

01:24:20.198 --> 01:24:21.279
you're like nah we can't

01:24:21.298 --> 01:24:22.579
yeah show show would have

01:24:22.600 --> 01:24:24.962
been over yeah at that

01:24:25.002 --> 01:24:25.983
point that's intimidation

01:24:26.023 --> 01:24:27.784
you're just like yeah

01:24:27.885 --> 01:24:29.466
pirates glasses jones we

01:24:29.506 --> 01:24:30.567
can do one of those like

01:24:31.007 --> 01:24:32.029
where he takes his son and

01:24:32.048 --> 01:24:32.869
sticks it behind him like

01:24:32.890 --> 01:24:33.871
what'd you say about my son

01:24:34.650 --> 01:24:35.251
Exactly.

01:24:37.011 --> 01:24:38.671
He could fit his whole family behind him.

01:24:38.872 --> 01:24:39.391
He was that big.

01:24:39.792 --> 01:24:42.051
But yeah, that's why they're just,

01:24:42.072 --> 01:24:44.273
that was smart.

01:24:44.292 --> 01:24:47.912
So let's jump over to the supervisor.

01:24:48.773 --> 01:24:50.054
What did y'all guys think

01:24:50.094 --> 01:24:51.293
about the supervisor?

01:24:51.354 --> 01:24:52.113
And like,

01:24:52.134 --> 01:24:53.533
were y'all really shocked that it

01:24:53.554 --> 01:24:55.675
was a droid?

01:24:55.755 --> 01:24:56.255
I was shocked.

01:24:56.414 --> 01:24:56.895
I was like,

01:24:56.935 --> 01:24:57.654
I wouldn't expect the

01:24:57.694 --> 01:25:01.935
supervisor to be a droid.

01:25:01.956 --> 01:25:02.475
We'll go with a...

01:25:04.752 --> 01:25:05.819
Let's go with Randy shaking

01:25:05.840 --> 01:25:07.207
his head like he's like, yeah, pick me,

01:25:07.247 --> 01:25:07.529
pick me.

01:25:09.041 --> 01:25:09.280
Okay,

01:25:09.320 --> 01:25:12.141
so I will say I usually don't call

01:25:12.362 --> 01:25:12.842
anything,

01:25:12.882 --> 01:25:14.243
but I was never more sure of

01:25:14.304 --> 01:25:15.243
anything that this was

01:25:15.283 --> 01:25:16.404
going to be a robot.

01:25:16.484 --> 01:25:18.426
And the reason why, I mean,

01:25:18.445 --> 01:25:19.426
it was partly like all the

01:25:19.466 --> 01:25:20.466
robots controlling

01:25:20.506 --> 01:25:21.327
everything else and

01:25:21.346 --> 01:25:23.068
everything being so regimented.

01:25:23.609 --> 01:25:25.510
And as we learned that this

01:25:25.550 --> 01:25:26.951
planet seemed to be cut off

01:25:26.970 --> 01:25:27.690
from everything.

01:25:28.091 --> 01:25:29.072
But more than that,

01:25:29.332 --> 01:25:30.412
despite all the talk of

01:25:30.432 --> 01:25:32.354
like the Goonies and eighties movies,

01:25:32.854 --> 01:25:33.975
when I started watching this,

01:25:34.034 --> 01:25:35.876
I felt like I was playing fallout.

01:25:36.475 --> 01:25:37.938
Because like as soon as we

01:25:37.978 --> 01:25:39.860
were introduced to Aten, I was like,

01:25:39.921 --> 01:25:41.222
this feels like a vault.

01:25:42.328 --> 01:25:44.590
from Fallout and it's always some kind of,

01:25:45.029 --> 01:25:45.291
you know,

01:25:45.411 --> 01:25:48.471
social experiment at the bottom of it.

01:25:48.851 --> 01:25:48.992
Now,

01:25:49.011 --> 01:25:50.752
what did surprise me was that in

01:25:50.792 --> 01:25:51.753
constructing this whole

01:25:51.774 --> 01:25:52.694
system in this droid,

01:25:53.114 --> 01:25:54.314
they apparently put all the

01:25:54.354 --> 01:25:55.716
most essential components

01:25:55.815 --> 01:25:56.636
right in that little,

01:25:56.976 --> 01:25:58.476
very vulnerable eye socket

01:25:58.516 --> 01:25:59.457
right there that one

01:26:00.037 --> 01:26:01.798
lightsaber could deactivate.

01:26:01.838 --> 01:26:02.760
I thought that was a pretty

01:26:02.859 --> 01:26:04.680
big design flaw considering

01:26:05.440 --> 01:26:07.021
all the heft and weight to that machine.

01:26:07.421 --> 01:26:08.922
If we know anything about Star Wars,

01:26:09.063 --> 01:26:10.904
architecture is never their strong suit.

01:26:12.585 --> 01:26:12.645
No.

01:26:12.664 --> 01:26:12.744
True.

01:26:12.765 --> 01:26:13.525
Everything's always at one point.

01:26:13.565 --> 01:26:14.867
Either are the fell safes.

01:26:15.148 --> 01:26:15.847
Fell safes?

01:26:16.689 --> 01:26:19.390
Non-existent.

01:26:19.471 --> 01:26:20.391
Although I was wondering if

01:26:20.412 --> 01:26:21.273
the parents were going to

01:26:21.313 --> 01:26:22.194
be more surprised,

01:26:22.213 --> 01:26:23.494
because I felt like Fern's

01:26:23.555 --> 01:26:25.856
mom did not seem surprised.

01:26:27.418 --> 01:26:28.779
She was the number two.

01:26:29.020 --> 01:26:31.181
She got called up to the

01:26:31.221 --> 01:26:32.523
supervisor multiple times

01:26:32.542 --> 01:26:33.463
throughout the series.

01:26:34.465 --> 01:26:36.306
So I think she did know.

01:26:37.572 --> 01:26:38.733
but she still wanted fern to

01:26:38.752 --> 01:26:40.213
show that proper decorum

01:26:40.274 --> 01:26:41.875
like like you might show to

01:26:41.994 --> 01:26:43.456
yeah a more traditional

01:26:43.676 --> 01:26:45.358
living being but uh you

01:26:45.537 --> 01:26:46.618
know that's where it kind

01:26:46.679 --> 01:26:47.418
of got me because she's

01:26:47.439 --> 01:26:48.279
like just you know

01:26:48.300 --> 01:26:50.100
shoulders back you know I'm

01:26:50.161 --> 01:26:52.063
like it's kind of weird but

01:26:52.122 --> 01:26:53.724
I'm like I still feel like

01:26:53.764 --> 01:26:57.226
it's going to be a droid to

01:26:57.627 --> 01:26:58.688
almost anything when they

01:26:58.728 --> 01:27:00.588
want to feel safe I guess I

01:27:00.609 --> 01:27:02.610
mean they were safe like they

01:27:05.203 --> 01:27:06.243
I got what you're I got what

01:27:06.264 --> 01:27:07.104
you were putting down there

01:27:07.145 --> 01:27:09.448
randy uh but yeah I I

01:27:09.467 --> 01:27:10.288
wasn't surprised either

01:27:10.309 --> 01:27:11.270
because every time they

01:27:11.289 --> 01:27:13.112
just kept saying the robots

01:27:13.152 --> 01:27:14.432
kept saying the supervisor

01:27:14.453 --> 01:27:15.394
will see you and I'm just

01:27:15.493 --> 01:27:16.555
like okay this is all

01:27:16.595 --> 01:27:23.082
sports our son yes they are

01:27:23.101 --> 01:27:25.385
there's one flaw they uh

01:27:26.523 --> 01:27:27.724
it just kept I'm just like

01:27:27.743 --> 01:27:28.685
this is not a real thing

01:27:28.725 --> 01:27:29.645
this is going to be like

01:27:30.126 --> 01:27:31.086
this is going to be just

01:27:32.567 --> 01:27:34.167
this is a hidden society it

01:27:34.207 --> 01:27:35.869
is archaic in so many ways

01:27:35.930 --> 01:27:37.930
this has to be not a human

01:27:37.970 --> 01:27:39.771
being running this this has

01:27:39.811 --> 01:27:41.934
to be a droid or a robot or

01:27:41.953 --> 01:27:44.615
a sentient being which it

01:27:44.655 --> 01:27:47.117
sort of was but yeah I

01:27:47.136 --> 01:27:48.057
wasn't surprised by that

01:27:48.097 --> 01:27:49.559
and I also was very happy that

01:27:50.341 --> 01:27:51.743
it was taken down so quickly

01:27:51.762 --> 01:27:53.143
because it's like that's

01:27:53.203 --> 01:27:54.863
how fragile this whole

01:27:54.884 --> 01:27:56.463
thing was like yeah all you

01:27:56.484 --> 01:27:58.145
had to do was like that was

01:27:58.284 --> 01:27:59.625
stab it in the flashlight

01:27:59.685 --> 01:28:01.086
and it was dead you know

01:28:01.185 --> 01:28:02.006
and it's just like our

01:28:02.046 --> 01:28:02.966
whole society's dead

01:28:02.987 --> 01:28:04.067
because the light bulb went

01:28:04.167 --> 01:28:04.947
out you know what I mean

01:28:05.046 --> 01:28:07.047
and it's like I like that

01:28:07.087 --> 01:28:09.649
fact of just how fragile it was because

01:28:11.280 --> 01:28:12.502
It just spoke to so much

01:28:12.561 --> 01:28:18.904
about faith and belief in

01:28:19.005 --> 01:28:20.064
governmental systems.

01:28:20.145 --> 01:28:21.765
It speaks to a lot of larger

01:28:21.805 --> 01:28:23.646
things that someone who

01:28:23.686 --> 01:28:25.006
hosts a media literacy

01:28:25.046 --> 01:28:26.247
podcast could really talk about.

01:28:26.783 --> 01:28:28.463
diving deep into like power

01:28:28.503 --> 01:28:29.664
structures and belief and

01:28:29.685 --> 01:28:30.585
all that sort of stuff

01:28:31.484 --> 01:28:33.444
because like they even

01:28:33.505 --> 01:28:36.086
though the mom knew it is a

01:28:36.445 --> 01:28:38.506
god damn like it's it's

01:28:38.546 --> 01:28:40.086
basically a Dalek without

01:28:40.265 --> 01:28:41.546
legs you know what I mean

01:28:41.567 --> 01:28:42.846
without a bottom it's a top

01:28:42.947 --> 01:28:45.067
it's a Dalek head is the is

01:28:45.247 --> 01:28:47.728
it rotates yeah and so it's

01:28:47.747 --> 01:28:49.287
like she knew and yet she

01:28:49.307 --> 01:28:50.648
was still like yeah I

01:28:50.707 --> 01:28:53.488
totally submit all of this

01:28:53.628 --> 01:28:54.748
completely subservient

01:28:55.368 --> 01:28:56.329
like she was the number two

01:28:56.430 --> 01:28:57.350
and this is what got me

01:28:57.371 --> 01:28:58.230
this is why I thought it

01:28:58.270 --> 01:28:59.511
may actually be a human at

01:28:59.532 --> 01:29:02.434
first just because like

01:29:02.453 --> 01:29:03.335
well she's the number two

01:29:03.375 --> 01:29:04.195
maybe it's kind of like a

01:29:04.235 --> 01:29:05.195
secession thing and that's

01:29:05.216 --> 01:29:06.818
why these kids are tested

01:29:07.037 --> 01:29:07.898
because remember we started

01:29:07.917 --> 01:29:08.779
the whole season with them

01:29:08.939 --> 01:29:10.539
being tested to see where

01:29:10.560 --> 01:29:12.881
they will be in society so

01:29:12.921 --> 01:29:14.042
I'm thinking okay it's like

01:29:14.063 --> 01:29:15.224
the next man up type of

01:29:15.264 --> 01:29:16.323
deal and her mom's the

01:29:16.344 --> 01:29:17.425
number two so she's the

01:29:17.465 --> 01:29:19.587
next person up to be the

01:29:19.627 --> 01:29:20.667
supervisor I will

01:29:21.448 --> 01:29:22.889
I will say after the whole

01:29:23.229 --> 01:29:24.309
stick him with the pointy

01:29:24.408 --> 01:29:26.350
end thing worked and stuck

01:29:26.369 --> 01:29:27.730
him in the flashlight and he shut down,

01:29:28.051 --> 01:29:29.211
a little part of me was like, oh,

01:29:29.230 --> 01:29:30.551
was I wrong about the droid?

01:29:30.652 --> 01:29:32.152
Is a Jeff Goldblum going to

01:29:32.192 --> 01:29:33.592
pop out from behind the camera now?

01:29:33.613 --> 01:29:33.993
Thank you.

01:29:34.033 --> 01:29:38.414
Hey, everybody, I'm a shitty dad.

01:29:38.454 --> 01:29:41.536
And you're like, oh, man.

01:29:41.595 --> 01:29:43.997
And I'm here like, hi.

01:29:44.016 --> 01:29:45.578
You're just a guilty piece of shit.

01:29:45.597 --> 01:29:45.898
Come here.

01:29:45.917 --> 01:29:46.297
Thank you.

01:29:49.359 --> 01:29:50.960
I mean, to Randy's point,

01:29:50.979 --> 01:29:52.079
that was exactly what I

01:29:52.119 --> 01:29:53.539
thought it was going to be like.

01:29:53.579 --> 01:29:53.840
I was like,

01:29:53.859 --> 01:29:55.581
this is too simple for the droid.

01:29:55.600 --> 01:29:56.501
Like, it makes sense.

01:29:56.961 --> 01:29:58.680
But then I'm like, who's behind the droid?

01:29:59.181 --> 01:29:59.862
And I still have that

01:29:59.921 --> 01:30:01.521
question of where is the

01:30:01.542 --> 01:30:02.682
droid getting orders from?

01:30:03.262 --> 01:30:03.403
I mean,

01:30:03.443 --> 01:30:04.162
he knew about Order of the

01:30:04.203 --> 01:30:05.582
Sixty-Six as well.

01:30:06.143 --> 01:30:07.363
So he was learning.

01:30:07.404 --> 01:30:08.344
He knew stuff.

01:30:09.677 --> 01:30:11.998
So that's where I question that.

01:30:12.019 --> 01:30:13.000
This is just my

01:30:13.300 --> 01:30:14.980
not-so-encyclopedic Star

01:30:15.001 --> 01:30:15.801
Wars brain comes in.

01:30:16.360 --> 01:30:17.681
Order of Sixty... So this is

01:30:17.721 --> 01:30:18.722
during the Mandalorian time.

01:30:18.823 --> 01:30:21.104
Order of Sixty-Six is history, right?

01:30:21.163 --> 01:30:21.363
So...

01:30:22.250 --> 01:30:23.890
they would have programmed.

01:30:23.971 --> 01:30:24.532
It's just like,

01:30:24.591 --> 01:30:26.113
it feels like this is an

01:30:26.293 --> 01:30:27.975
old history textbook where it's just like,

01:30:28.295 --> 01:30:29.315
we like that.

01:30:29.416 --> 01:30:30.676
I had a Catholic school.

01:30:30.697 --> 01:30:31.057
It was like,

01:30:31.278 --> 01:30:33.699
we stopped at world war two or

01:30:33.720 --> 01:30:35.201
we stopped at the Vietnam war.

01:30:35.442 --> 01:30:36.061
And that's it.

01:30:36.341 --> 01:30:36.481
Like,

01:30:36.542 --> 01:30:38.764
I don't think it's Skynet to the

01:30:38.805 --> 01:30:39.364
comment there.

01:30:39.385 --> 01:30:41.067
Cause I don't think it learned anything.

01:30:41.127 --> 01:30:41.867
I think it was just like,

01:30:42.387 --> 01:30:44.168
here's my knowledge base, which is my,

01:30:44.189 --> 01:30:44.609
you know,

01:30:44.630 --> 01:30:46.511
it's just like the encyclopedic

01:30:46.551 --> 01:30:48.033
knowledge it had up to this date.

01:30:48.472 --> 01:30:50.373
they never stopped receiving

01:30:50.413 --> 01:30:51.694
updates it never talked

01:30:51.715 --> 01:30:53.975
about it never talked about

01:30:54.536 --> 01:30:56.256
the the empire it never

01:30:56.296 --> 01:30:57.738
talked about the you know

01:30:57.858 --> 01:30:59.118
the any of anything that

01:30:59.158 --> 01:31:00.158
happened it was like order

01:31:00.179 --> 01:31:01.279
sixty six okay that's

01:31:01.319 --> 01:31:03.220
history that's like someone

01:31:03.261 --> 01:31:04.320
saying you know you're

01:31:04.360 --> 01:31:05.141
talking to someone and

01:31:05.162 --> 01:31:07.523
they're saying like well I

01:31:07.563 --> 01:31:09.524
know what the you know you

01:31:09.564 --> 01:31:10.463
program a robot and they're

01:31:10.484 --> 01:31:11.104
like well we know what the

01:31:11.125 --> 01:31:13.706
vietnam war is great that happened like

01:31:14.365 --> 01:31:15.707
A long-ass time ago.

01:31:15.847 --> 01:31:17.949
That happened over fifty-plus years ago.

01:31:18.090 --> 01:31:18.430
Great.

01:31:18.489 --> 01:31:19.070
That's history.

01:31:19.652 --> 01:31:20.452
It's not today.

01:31:20.792 --> 01:31:23.815
It kind of reminded me of WALL-E.

01:31:26.390 --> 01:31:28.471
that's killing me yes it was

01:31:28.551 --> 01:31:29.853
thank you I was thinking

01:31:29.872 --> 01:31:30.613
the same thing I was like

01:31:30.632 --> 01:31:31.694
there's a movie and I'm

01:31:31.713 --> 01:31:34.216
like wally and and about

01:31:34.256 --> 01:31:35.436
the ship that's following

01:31:35.476 --> 01:31:37.057
the you know that's

01:31:37.078 --> 01:31:38.219
following orders and not

01:31:38.238 --> 01:31:39.100
letting anybody go back

01:31:39.140 --> 01:31:40.480
home and it's been doing it

01:31:40.961 --> 01:31:42.162
I mean that's exactly what

01:31:42.181 --> 01:31:44.463
the supervisor reminded me

01:31:44.583 --> 01:31:45.743
of of course I always have

01:31:45.764 --> 01:31:46.645
the question of who set it

01:31:46.685 --> 01:31:48.126
up to begin with I'm always

01:31:48.145 --> 01:31:48.587
going to wonder that

01:31:48.627 --> 01:31:49.247
question I was like is it

01:31:49.287 --> 01:31:50.347
high republic time like

01:31:50.368 --> 01:31:51.208
there was there's me just

01:31:51.229 --> 01:31:52.109
going off well I mean we

01:31:52.128 --> 01:31:53.010
had the high republic

01:31:53.109 --> 01:31:54.511
references like even

01:31:54.990 --> 01:32:00.595
Great work is a High Republic reference.

01:32:01.034 --> 01:32:02.817
It makes you wonder how it

01:32:02.837 --> 01:32:04.738
kept running and why nobody

01:32:04.797 --> 01:32:06.038
questioned it and when

01:32:06.099 --> 01:32:08.000
people phased out of it.

01:32:08.439 --> 01:32:10.521
It left a lot of interesting questions.

01:32:10.761 --> 01:32:13.243
They did say that we haven't

01:32:13.262 --> 01:32:16.706
been seen by a diplomat in years.

01:32:17.506 --> 01:32:21.988
But they didn't say how many

01:32:22.029 --> 01:32:22.810
years it had been.

01:32:22.850 --> 01:32:24.211
They just said it had been years.

01:32:25.622 --> 01:32:27.185
so it's just interesting to

01:32:27.225 --> 01:32:28.365
see how people kept up like

01:32:28.466 --> 01:32:29.546
to to everyone's point here

01:32:29.587 --> 01:32:30.568
how people kept up with the

01:32:30.608 --> 01:32:32.670
charade like it's true yeah

01:32:32.689 --> 01:32:33.690
they just they went to work

01:32:33.871 --> 01:32:35.212
they they did their job

01:32:35.231 --> 01:32:37.213
they made gold coins for

01:32:37.253 --> 01:32:39.916
the republic and that's all

01:32:39.935 --> 01:32:40.777
they knew that's what they

01:32:40.796 --> 01:32:42.118
were put there for and they

01:32:42.137 --> 01:32:43.500
were cut off and nothing

01:32:43.520 --> 01:32:44.520
and they were cut off from

01:32:44.661 --> 01:32:45.581
society they're cut off

01:32:45.601 --> 01:32:47.502
from the stars like that

01:32:47.542 --> 01:32:48.583
whole thing we're saying we

01:32:48.623 --> 01:32:50.426
have never seen stars before like

01:32:51.380 --> 01:32:52.942
That's like the whole your

01:32:52.981 --> 01:32:55.625
head's in the clouds theory.

01:32:55.645 --> 01:32:56.506
Because they can look to the

01:32:56.525 --> 01:32:57.127
stars and wonder,

01:32:57.247 --> 01:32:58.207
I wonder what's out there.

01:32:58.648 --> 01:33:00.010
I want to go explore what's out there.

01:33:00.050 --> 01:33:01.030
You've cut them off from

01:33:01.110 --> 01:33:02.932
ever wanting to leave.

01:33:02.953 --> 01:33:03.854
These people have been held

01:33:03.934 --> 01:33:07.618
hostage for generations and enslaved,

01:33:07.658 --> 01:33:10.702
essentially, to run this system.

01:33:12.318 --> 01:33:12.837
Yeah,

01:33:12.858 --> 01:33:14.078
I love the idea that I think it's

01:33:14.118 --> 01:33:16.739
just like a bureaucratic failing, right?

01:33:16.760 --> 01:33:18.240
Like you mentioned, like WALL-E,

01:33:18.280 --> 01:33:19.862
like everything's on autopilot.

01:33:20.502 --> 01:33:22.603
You know, I talked about Lost earlier.

01:33:23.463 --> 01:33:25.064
One meaningless Lost mystery

01:33:25.104 --> 01:33:26.645
that I'll spoil for you is

01:33:26.666 --> 01:33:28.326
there's a pallet drop of

01:33:28.386 --> 01:33:30.568
food from the Dharma Initiative.

01:33:30.648 --> 01:33:31.688
And you eventually find out

01:33:31.728 --> 01:33:33.288
that it's just like no one

01:33:33.309 --> 01:33:35.289
ever turned off the automated shipments.

01:33:35.329 --> 01:33:36.270
There are like two guys in a

01:33:36.310 --> 01:33:37.570
warehouse somewhere still

01:33:37.591 --> 01:33:39.351
getting like an automated paycheck.

01:33:39.391 --> 01:33:40.613
And they don't even know that the...

01:33:41.559 --> 01:33:42.259
the company's gone.

01:33:42.319 --> 01:33:43.640
I think that's kind of the vibe.

01:33:43.680 --> 01:33:45.520
So someone's getting them or

01:33:45.560 --> 01:33:46.881
maybe someone like the

01:33:46.981 --> 01:33:48.202
emperor or someone has that

01:33:48.243 --> 01:33:49.422
knowledge in their back pocket.

01:33:49.582 --> 01:33:50.823
I don't think the emperor

01:33:50.844 --> 01:33:52.345
even had knowledge of that money.

01:33:52.904 --> 01:33:54.786
If he would have known he had that money,

01:33:54.865 --> 01:33:56.087
you best believe he would

01:33:56.106 --> 01:33:57.908
have used it to make another Death Star.

01:34:00.149 --> 01:34:02.310
They do love making those.

01:34:02.329 --> 01:34:03.569
With one point.

01:34:05.811 --> 01:34:06.631
One damn point.

01:34:07.573 --> 01:34:08.393
One fatal flaw.

01:34:11.693 --> 01:34:12.073
Speaking of,

01:34:12.092 --> 01:34:14.175
we're getting into season two really soon,

01:34:14.854 --> 01:34:15.534
so that's something.

01:34:15.555 --> 01:34:17.296
I'm excited.

01:34:17.456 --> 01:34:18.716
Oh, I thought you said season two of this.

01:34:18.737 --> 01:34:19.557
I'm like, that's happening?

01:34:19.778 --> 01:34:19.917
No.

01:34:20.297 --> 01:34:20.858
Yes, and or.

01:34:20.998 --> 01:34:21.498
Yes, season two.

01:34:21.519 --> 01:34:22.179
It's going to be great.

01:34:22.198 --> 01:34:22.819
I'm here for it.

01:34:22.840 --> 01:34:25.461
Speaking of series like this,

01:34:26.042 --> 01:34:27.402
how would you feel about

01:34:27.462 --> 01:34:30.823
getting more one-off series like this one,

01:34:31.164 --> 01:34:32.005
where it's kind of its own

01:34:32.045 --> 01:34:33.525
little standalone thing,

01:34:34.726 --> 01:34:35.646
where you don't need the

01:34:35.667 --> 01:34:39.529
tie-ins to other Star Wars lore?

01:34:39.590 --> 01:34:40.289
Randy, we'll go with you.

01:34:41.698 --> 01:34:42.798
We're picking on you.

01:34:42.859 --> 01:34:44.238
You're the new guy.

01:34:44.259 --> 01:34:46.780
I'm going to say yes,

01:34:47.041 --> 01:34:48.601
provided that they can

01:34:48.662 --> 01:34:50.182
continue to create some

01:34:50.222 --> 01:34:52.384
creative space for the

01:34:52.423 --> 01:34:53.845
people attached to the project.

01:34:53.904 --> 01:34:55.765
So all those practical

01:34:55.805 --> 01:34:56.546
effects that we were

01:34:56.586 --> 01:34:57.726
talking about earlier,

01:34:58.027 --> 01:34:59.908
like the clear heart that

01:34:59.948 --> 01:35:01.588
went into casting this series,

01:35:01.628 --> 01:35:03.289
they did some special things.

01:35:03.550 --> 01:35:05.390
My critiques are pretty

01:35:05.470 --> 01:35:07.091
minuscule in a show that I

01:35:07.131 --> 01:35:07.893
really enjoyed.

01:35:08.493 --> 01:35:09.413
and really loved.

01:35:10.094 --> 01:35:10.314
But yeah,

01:35:10.333 --> 01:35:12.275
I think we kind of canceled it earlier.

01:35:12.336 --> 01:35:15.797
Like, I think this can exist as a one-off,

01:35:15.858 --> 01:35:16.918
but at the same time,

01:35:16.958 --> 01:35:18.920
like give these shows some

01:35:18.979 --> 01:35:19.820
time to breathe,

01:35:19.841 --> 01:35:21.761
give these shows some time to develop.

01:35:21.782 --> 01:35:23.422
Yeah.

01:35:23.922 --> 01:35:24.144
Not,

01:35:24.243 --> 01:35:26.045
not everyone's going to catch the show

01:35:26.085 --> 01:35:26.585
right away.

01:35:26.625 --> 01:35:28.586
Like game of Thrones took

01:35:28.646 --> 01:35:30.108
several years before it

01:35:30.167 --> 01:35:31.828
became what it became.

01:35:31.849 --> 01:35:33.569
And I feel like forget that.

01:35:33.590 --> 01:35:33.710
So.

01:35:33.729 --> 01:35:33.829
Deal.

01:35:33.850 --> 01:35:36.811
Deal.

01:35:37.716 --> 01:35:40.938
yeah I mean so it's it's a

01:35:41.057 --> 01:35:41.997
it's a tale of two cities

01:35:42.057 --> 01:35:45.578
right uh the one city being

01:35:45.918 --> 01:35:47.939
our imaginations being like

01:35:47.958 --> 01:35:49.439
yes obviously like let's

01:35:49.539 --> 01:35:50.859
let's have let's get

01:35:50.899 --> 01:35:53.980
creatives to come in and do

01:35:54.020 --> 01:35:54.820
their own thing we have

01:35:54.860 --> 01:35:57.140
tony gilroy like famed

01:35:57.280 --> 01:35:58.641
writer director who did

01:35:58.702 --> 01:35:59.841
michael clayton who's done

01:35:59.981 --> 01:36:02.443
serious stuff comes in and

01:36:02.502 --> 01:36:04.122
does a prequel series that's like

01:36:04.693 --> 01:36:07.774
you know, wartime drama, espionage,

01:36:08.275 --> 01:36:10.738
character studies, spy thriller,

01:36:11.198 --> 01:36:12.519
all these things that don't

01:36:12.759 --> 01:36:17.002
fit into the magical fantasy of Star Wars,

01:36:17.021 --> 01:36:20.164
but also does, right?

01:36:20.465 --> 01:36:22.086
I would love to see, like,

01:36:22.365 --> 01:36:23.306
there's no reason there

01:36:23.327 --> 01:36:24.728
couldn't be an Ewok show.

01:36:25.068 --> 01:36:26.809
There's no reason there can't be more,

01:36:27.149 --> 01:36:27.970
like I said,

01:36:28.090 --> 01:36:29.070
there can't be another

01:36:29.211 --> 01:36:31.393
animated series in the vein of

01:36:31.653 --> 01:36:33.434
clone wars or rebels like a

01:36:33.493 --> 01:36:35.135
prestige show like we've

01:36:35.175 --> 01:36:36.395
seen with marvel has done

01:36:36.435 --> 01:36:37.837
that with x-men they're

01:36:38.556 --> 01:36:39.898
they're doing three seasons

01:36:39.938 --> 01:36:40.458
of your friendly

01:36:40.498 --> 01:36:41.359
neighborhood spider-man

01:36:41.739 --> 01:36:42.720
like I said the ewok show

01:36:42.760 --> 01:36:43.820
that could be an animated

01:36:43.860 --> 01:36:45.202
series there could be an

01:36:45.242 --> 01:36:47.002
animated series about this

01:36:47.042 --> 01:36:47.844
that's coming I know there

01:36:47.923 --> 01:36:49.824
was an animated series about the ewoks

01:36:50.364 --> 01:36:50.984
Oh, exactly.

01:36:51.005 --> 01:36:51.826
My friend has a cell from

01:36:51.845 --> 01:36:53.106
that in his apartment.

01:36:53.707 --> 01:36:54.046
But I mean,

01:36:54.226 --> 01:36:55.528
there's no reason why you can't

01:36:55.568 --> 01:36:56.948
do that now and reintroduce

01:36:56.969 --> 01:36:57.708
these characters.

01:36:58.088 --> 01:36:59.510
But you have to make I think

01:36:59.550 --> 01:37:00.490
I said this on social distance.

01:37:00.551 --> 01:37:01.891
You have to make Star Wars cool again.

01:37:01.931 --> 01:37:02.652
You have to make it more

01:37:02.671 --> 01:37:04.653
acceptable because it is so

01:37:04.752 --> 01:37:06.634
that the fan base is not us,

01:37:06.673 --> 01:37:08.135
but like the fan base is so

01:37:08.175 --> 01:37:09.655
hyper focused on everything

01:37:09.676 --> 01:37:10.475
has to tie together.

01:37:10.496 --> 01:37:11.457
Everything has to be more.

01:37:11.476 --> 01:37:12.717
Everything has to be perfect

01:37:12.738 --> 01:37:13.797
that it's never perfect.

01:37:14.259 --> 01:37:14.498
Right.

01:37:14.538 --> 01:37:15.399
And there's just so much

01:37:15.599 --> 01:37:17.860
angst and bullshit that happens here.

01:37:17.881 --> 01:37:18.261
Mm hmm.

01:37:19.186 --> 01:37:21.068
And so the other city I was

01:37:21.088 --> 01:37:21.828
talking about is the

01:37:21.868 --> 01:37:22.630
corporate side of things.

01:37:22.649 --> 01:37:24.890
They're like, can we justify keep,

01:37:25.072 --> 01:37:25.311
you know,

01:37:25.631 --> 01:37:27.193
being this creative or do we

01:37:27.233 --> 01:37:28.394
have to go for the hits?

01:37:29.095 --> 01:37:30.034
Disney did it this year.

01:37:30.055 --> 01:37:31.256
They made Pixar cool again.

01:37:31.296 --> 01:37:32.936
How do they do that or profitable again?

01:37:32.957 --> 01:37:34.337
Because, you know, well,

01:37:34.498 --> 01:37:35.319
you also had like four

01:37:35.359 --> 01:37:36.760
years of like their big

01:37:36.800 --> 01:37:38.001
releases being released for free,

01:37:38.041 --> 01:37:39.381
but they did a sequel with

01:37:39.402 --> 01:37:40.143
Inside Out too.

01:37:40.682 --> 01:37:41.463
Marvel was struggling.

01:37:41.976 --> 01:37:43.318
Deadpool Wolverine these are

01:37:43.358 --> 01:37:44.578
all things that existed so

01:37:44.599 --> 01:37:45.659
you're tacking things on

01:37:45.739 --> 01:37:47.341
Star Wars I don't know what

01:37:47.381 --> 01:37:49.042
we have with that right now

01:37:49.122 --> 01:37:50.384
it's like okay we bring Rey

01:37:50.423 --> 01:37:52.546
back well gosh we saw how

01:37:52.586 --> 01:37:55.068
much heat that got for no

01:37:55.087 --> 01:37:56.729
goddamn reason like oh

01:37:56.748 --> 01:37:58.730
let's bring Finn back yeah

01:37:58.770 --> 01:38:00.332
okay like there's you keep

01:38:00.372 --> 01:38:01.233
seeing these things bounce

01:38:01.252 --> 01:38:02.654
around it's just like I

01:38:02.673 --> 01:38:03.895
would love because they

01:38:03.935 --> 01:38:04.996
want to capitalize on

01:38:05.235 --> 01:38:06.657
something right that isn't

01:38:06.716 --> 01:38:09.059
Skywalker or Jason but they

01:38:09.078 --> 01:38:09.960
always go back to it

01:38:10.390 --> 01:38:11.470
They had it with Mando,

01:38:11.530 --> 01:38:13.572
and I think that third

01:38:13.612 --> 01:38:15.712
season and Boba Fett really did it dirty.

01:38:16.372 --> 01:38:19.194
Maybe the movie rekindles that interest.

01:38:20.095 --> 01:38:21.375
Ahsoka was great, obviously,

01:38:21.435 --> 01:38:23.155
but something's got to

01:38:23.576 --> 01:38:25.296
change within the dynamic

01:38:25.317 --> 01:38:26.717
of Star Wars because I

01:38:26.738 --> 01:38:28.259
think there's so many

01:38:28.719 --> 01:38:29.599
people that have

01:38:30.079 --> 01:38:32.541
generations of storytellers out there.

01:38:32.940 --> 01:38:34.881
that can do great Star Wars stuff.

01:38:35.061 --> 01:38:36.221
Bryce Dallas Howard should

01:38:36.261 --> 01:38:37.141
have her own Star Wars.

01:38:37.162 --> 01:38:38.922
She should.

01:38:39.002 --> 01:38:40.042
Not episodes.

01:38:40.462 --> 01:38:42.064
Unless she doesn't want to.

01:38:42.104 --> 01:38:43.604
Give her a movie or give her

01:38:43.623 --> 01:38:45.385
a whole show to run because

01:38:45.545 --> 01:38:46.345
she's pretty great.

01:38:47.405 --> 01:38:48.666
Let's do that.

01:38:49.246 --> 01:38:50.106
I think there's so much that

01:38:50.146 --> 01:38:53.608
can be done that I just

01:38:53.627 --> 01:38:54.787
think we need to mine it

01:38:55.047 --> 01:38:56.769
for more and figure out what to do.

01:38:57.208 --> 01:38:58.509
This Patty Jenkins Rogue

01:38:58.529 --> 01:39:00.829
Squadron thing could be awesome.

01:39:01.560 --> 01:39:02.641
Why not?

01:39:02.662 --> 01:39:04.804
It's got potential.

01:39:05.324 --> 01:39:05.585
Bill,

01:39:05.604 --> 01:39:07.407
you know how I can't help but quote

01:39:07.466 --> 01:39:08.948
Kurt Vonnegut all the time?

01:39:10.671 --> 01:39:11.011
Yeah.

01:39:12.412 --> 01:39:14.774
In one of his rules for creative writing,

01:39:15.515 --> 01:39:16.636
he says you have to write

01:39:16.676 --> 01:39:18.378
to please just one person.

01:39:18.838 --> 01:39:20.421
If you open a window and try

01:39:20.440 --> 01:39:21.761
to make love to the world,

01:39:22.082 --> 01:39:23.404
you're going to get pneumonia.

01:39:23.423 --> 01:39:23.503
Yeah.

01:39:24.149 --> 01:39:25.091
And I feel like they want to

01:39:25.110 --> 01:39:25.650
keep their minds.

01:39:25.671 --> 01:39:25.992
I don't know.

01:39:26.072 --> 01:39:26.712
I've tried it, man.

01:39:26.752 --> 01:39:27.372
I've been pretty okay.

01:39:27.393 --> 01:39:29.314
I've been pretty good.

01:39:29.814 --> 01:39:31.256
I think a Targaryen or two

01:39:31.296 --> 01:39:32.296
has tried that as well.

01:39:34.920 --> 01:39:35.359
Oh, yeah.

01:39:35.380 --> 01:39:35.560
No,

01:39:35.600 --> 01:39:40.384
but like Mando season three is such a

01:39:40.423 --> 01:39:41.664
good example because I am

01:39:41.865 --> 01:39:43.067
one of these Star Wars fans

01:39:43.087 --> 01:39:44.828
who's coming in like mostly

01:39:44.847 --> 01:39:46.328
with knowledge of the films.

01:39:46.770 --> 01:39:48.350
I've been catching up slowly

01:39:48.470 --> 01:39:49.773
on like Clone Wars and stuff.

01:39:50.332 --> 01:39:50.912
but it's like they're like

01:39:50.932 --> 01:39:51.434
okay we're but it's like

01:39:51.453 --> 01:39:51.993
they're like okay we're but

01:39:52.014 --> 01:39:52.555
it's like they're like okay

01:39:52.574 --> 01:39:53.015
we're gonna double and

01:39:53.034 --> 01:39:53.635
triple down on gonna double

01:39:53.675 --> 01:39:54.176
and triple down on gonna

01:39:54.195 --> 01:39:54.695
double and triple down on

01:39:54.716 --> 01:39:55.036
mandalorian lore

01:39:55.055 --> 01:39:55.377
mandalorian lore

01:39:55.396 --> 01:39:55.997
mandalorian lore okay but

01:39:56.037 --> 01:39:56.597
if you're gonna do that do

01:39:56.618 --> 01:39:57.158
it okay but if you're gonna

01:39:57.177 --> 01:39:57.738
do that do it okay but if

01:39:57.757 --> 01:39:58.439
you're gonna do that do it because

01:39:59.873 --> 01:40:01.635
I love Katie Zakoff,

01:40:01.715 --> 01:40:03.195
but they made Bo-Katan a

01:40:03.296 --> 01:40:04.216
boring character.

01:40:04.237 --> 01:40:05.016
And then I'm listening to

01:40:05.078 --> 01:40:06.278
podcasts and they're like, oh,

01:40:06.318 --> 01:40:07.359
she has a history as

01:40:07.378 --> 01:40:08.819
basically being a terrorist

01:40:08.920 --> 01:40:11.381
and all this complicated thematic stuff.

01:40:11.400 --> 01:40:12.942
And I'm like, that's cool.

01:40:13.021 --> 01:40:14.042
Bring me into that.

01:40:14.243 --> 01:40:14.662
Let me see it.

01:40:14.682 --> 01:40:15.203
But they're like, oh,

01:40:15.224 --> 01:40:16.083
we're going to do the lore,

01:40:16.123 --> 01:40:17.284
but let's not do the lore

01:40:17.564 --> 01:40:18.405
because some people might

01:40:18.445 --> 01:40:19.185
not know what it is.

01:40:19.206 --> 01:40:20.067
And it's like, dude...

01:40:20.587 --> 01:40:21.228
Pick a lane.

01:40:21.627 --> 01:40:24.631
Do the lore-free Mando thing

01:40:24.671 --> 01:40:27.435
that was working, or do the lore right.

01:40:27.515 --> 01:40:29.016
People will come if you do it right.

01:40:29.037 --> 01:40:30.358
There's some great stuff in there.

01:40:30.377 --> 01:40:31.618
You did see some of the Boca

01:40:31.679 --> 01:40:33.622
Catan stuff in Rebels.

01:40:35.703 --> 01:40:39.765
But for those who haven't watched it,

01:40:40.185 --> 01:40:41.747
they could have served with a flashback.

01:40:41.766 --> 01:40:43.007
They did it for Ahsoka.

01:40:43.547 --> 01:40:45.208
You had that Clone Wars flashback.

01:40:45.328 --> 01:40:46.369
Why not do something like

01:40:46.390 --> 01:40:47.470
that with Bo-Katan?

01:40:50.112 --> 01:40:51.814
That was the problem with Star Wars.

01:40:51.833 --> 01:40:53.113
They always get cold feet

01:40:53.173 --> 01:40:54.234
because they never know

01:40:54.274 --> 01:40:55.676
when to commit to the bit.

01:40:56.537 --> 01:40:57.778
Love Force Awakens, right?

01:40:57.917 --> 01:40:58.938
Yay, Force Awakens.

01:40:59.658 --> 01:41:00.760
I love The Last Jedi.

01:41:01.199 --> 01:41:01.960
Not everyone does.

01:41:02.461 --> 01:41:03.942
I thought it was a super interesting take.

01:41:04.742 --> 01:41:06.021
then rise of skywalker came

01:41:06.082 --> 01:41:09.122
and they're like uh let's

01:41:09.222 --> 01:41:11.264
do what you can't be half

01:41:11.304 --> 01:41:12.823
pregnant right so it's just

01:41:12.844 --> 01:41:13.863
like amanda you can verify

01:41:14.404 --> 01:41:15.444
um this is true actually

01:41:15.484 --> 01:41:16.345
most of us can we all have

01:41:16.385 --> 01:41:17.824
kids and just like you

01:41:17.845 --> 01:41:18.805
can't be half pregnant and

01:41:18.864 --> 01:41:19.905
it's just like so that's

01:41:19.926 --> 01:41:20.605
what they always did

01:41:20.645 --> 01:41:21.386
they're like well let's put

01:41:21.485 --> 01:41:22.586
one toe in and one toe out

01:41:22.626 --> 01:41:24.306
we can't really do it they

01:41:24.346 --> 01:41:25.487
never did it and then they

01:41:25.506 --> 01:41:26.527
got cold feet on everything

01:41:26.587 --> 01:41:28.448
and it really just instead

01:41:28.467 --> 01:41:29.627
of being audacious like

01:41:29.988 --> 01:41:31.347
mando season two I think

01:41:31.387 --> 01:41:33.488
bringing luke skywalker back yes

01:41:34.104 --> 01:41:37.247
I mean, how many of us were all like, well,

01:41:37.327 --> 01:41:38.847
it was also the pandemic and lockdown,

01:41:38.868 --> 01:41:40.188
so we were all going nuts anyway.

01:41:40.228 --> 01:41:41.569
But they did it well, though.

01:41:41.649 --> 01:41:42.548
They did it well.

01:41:42.670 --> 01:41:44.489
And then they brought in Boba Fett,

01:41:44.791 --> 01:41:45.751
like a badass.

01:41:46.091 --> 01:41:48.412
They brought in Ahsoka.

01:41:49.092 --> 01:41:49.533
Yeah.

01:41:49.672 --> 01:41:51.833
I still think about Ahsoka Mando episode.

01:41:51.854 --> 01:41:52.694
Some of the shots from that

01:41:52.734 --> 01:41:54.975
is just incredible.

01:41:55.176 --> 01:41:55.515
Phenomenal.

01:41:55.536 --> 01:41:56.697
The school being built.

01:41:57.197 --> 01:41:57.716
Amazing.

01:41:58.238 --> 01:41:59.278
They went for it.

01:41:59.398 --> 01:42:00.319
Like, Randy, you were saying.

01:42:03.230 --> 01:42:05.773
They tried to make everyone happy,

01:42:06.353 --> 01:42:07.774
and they made nobody happy.

01:42:08.935 --> 01:42:11.237
And now you're like, well, what do you do?

01:42:11.818 --> 01:42:12.979
So be audacious.

01:42:13.639 --> 01:42:15.020
Yeah, don't worry about Disney,

01:42:15.560 --> 01:42:16.301
because you've got

01:42:16.402 --> 01:42:17.882
thousands of former

01:42:18.143 --> 01:42:20.965
Suncoast employees podcasting about it.

01:42:21.024 --> 01:42:22.185
They'll fill in the blanks for you.

01:42:22.206 --> 01:42:24.608
Exactly.

01:42:24.627 --> 01:42:25.469
That's what people like me

01:42:25.488 --> 01:42:26.670
and Amanda are full of.

01:42:26.689 --> 01:42:27.511
They didn't hire me, by the way.

01:42:27.530 --> 01:42:27.850
I mean...

01:42:29.412 --> 01:42:33.413
Like, I'm, I just, I feel like, you know,

01:42:33.694 --> 01:42:37.756
the fan base right now is so antagonistic,

01:42:37.855 --> 01:42:39.096
like, you know, again, to Bill's point,

01:42:39.657 --> 01:42:41.238
like such a kind of

01:42:41.337 --> 01:42:42.859
antagonism that's out there

01:42:43.338 --> 01:42:45.140
for live action Star Wars.

01:42:45.640 --> 01:42:47.322
I will say this a hundred

01:42:47.341 --> 01:42:49.184
times over that Star Wars

01:42:49.224 --> 01:42:51.867
has the best and worst fan

01:42:51.886 --> 01:42:52.547
base out there.

01:42:52.887 --> 01:42:57.393
We can't have nice things.

01:42:57.432 --> 01:42:58.474
Some of it is valid

01:42:58.514 --> 01:43:00.095
criticism though because again,

01:43:00.315 --> 01:43:03.319
to Randy's point, it's very cyclical.

01:43:04.060 --> 01:43:05.121
They are not afraid to hit.

01:43:05.161 --> 01:43:06.181
They hit and they hit well.

01:43:07.063 --> 01:43:09.283
when they are just they're

01:43:09.304 --> 01:43:10.805
wishy-washy again the I

01:43:10.845 --> 01:43:12.085
think ever since you know

01:43:12.104 --> 01:43:13.786
that the last trilogy of

01:43:13.845 --> 01:43:15.587
films there's just been

01:43:15.606 --> 01:43:17.146
this one foot in one foot

01:43:17.207 --> 01:43:18.368
out one foot in one foot

01:43:18.427 --> 01:43:19.828
out and it's telling you in

01:43:19.868 --> 01:43:21.029
another year that last

01:43:21.088 --> 01:43:22.189
trilogy is gonna be like oh

01:43:22.248 --> 01:43:23.229
it's the greatest thing

01:43:23.270 --> 01:43:25.050
ever I don't know about uh

01:43:25.190 --> 01:43:26.631
I'm you know I I I liked

01:43:26.690 --> 01:43:27.872
the first two movies they

01:43:27.891 --> 01:43:28.652
did it to the to

01:43:28.792 --> 01:43:30.773
the first uh trilogy but

01:43:30.813 --> 01:43:32.154
that was a large part

01:43:32.394 --> 01:43:33.654
because of dave filoni

01:43:33.753 --> 01:43:35.175
fixing it with the clone

01:43:35.194 --> 01:43:36.796
wars I think once the clone

01:43:36.815 --> 01:43:37.716
wars came out and you had

01:43:37.756 --> 01:43:39.856
people watch it and it went

01:43:39.896 --> 01:43:41.037
back and it made it filled

01:43:41.078 --> 01:43:42.559
in the gaps between you

01:43:42.578 --> 01:43:43.918
know it made anakin seem

01:43:44.119 --> 01:43:46.841
less emo um and just and

01:43:46.961 --> 01:43:49.502
actually have purpose less

01:43:49.881 --> 01:43:51.502
less he was less emo in the

01:43:51.523 --> 01:43:52.404
series he wasn't in the

01:43:52.423 --> 01:43:53.564
black parade on this one

01:43:53.583 --> 01:43:55.164
yeah yeah that's true

01:43:55.855 --> 01:43:56.697
Yeah, definitely not.

01:43:56.716 --> 01:43:57.556
Kylo picked it up for him, though.

01:43:57.577 --> 01:43:58.997
There you go.

01:43:59.018 --> 01:44:02.600
But you got so many great backstories.

01:44:02.640 --> 01:44:02.880
And again,

01:44:02.899 --> 01:44:04.640
you got characters like Ahsoka

01:44:04.661 --> 01:44:06.301
that were fully fleshed out,

01:44:06.662 --> 01:44:07.682
beautifully written.

01:44:08.042 --> 01:44:09.543
You had characters like

01:44:09.564 --> 01:44:10.845
Asajj Ventress come to life.

01:44:10.885 --> 01:44:12.985
You had so many different

01:44:13.046 --> 01:44:14.306
stories that came in this

01:44:14.506 --> 01:44:16.287
era that really made you go

01:44:16.328 --> 01:44:17.649
back and look at the

01:44:17.729 --> 01:44:19.288
prequels in a different way.

01:44:19.369 --> 01:44:20.689
I just think George wanted

01:44:20.710 --> 01:44:21.831
to kill Ahsoka off.

01:44:22.110 --> 01:44:22.551
I know.

01:44:22.851 --> 01:44:23.372
Thank God.

01:44:23.592 --> 01:44:25.735
Thank God that didn't happen.

01:44:25.876 --> 01:44:27.778
But you could have something

01:44:27.818 --> 01:44:32.082
like that that may fix some

01:44:32.122 --> 01:44:32.984
of what's going on.

01:44:33.585 --> 01:44:34.105
But really,

01:44:34.225 --> 01:44:36.007
I think it's ultimately about

01:44:36.047 --> 01:44:37.048
going back to the... A lot

01:44:37.088 --> 01:44:38.091
of people say go back to

01:44:38.110 --> 01:44:38.891
the book content.

01:44:39.954 --> 01:44:40.614
And I'm here for that.

01:44:40.635 --> 01:44:41.855
Thank you.

01:44:41.996 --> 01:44:43.737
Yeah, because the books are fantastic.

01:44:43.756 --> 01:44:45.217
The books have done this already.

01:44:45.297 --> 01:44:46.158
And I've said this before.

01:44:46.177 --> 01:44:47.519
The books have already built

01:44:48.198 --> 01:44:50.500
the world that's out there.

01:44:50.520 --> 01:44:51.461
There's all these stories

01:44:51.480 --> 01:44:52.461
that take place in the Star

01:44:52.480 --> 01:44:53.060
Wars universe.

01:44:53.220 --> 01:44:53.921
And so many of them,

01:44:54.021 --> 01:44:54.622
like right now with the

01:44:54.641 --> 01:44:56.002
High Republic books, they're great.

01:44:56.682 --> 01:44:58.823
They're not connected to the Skywalkers.

01:44:58.923 --> 01:45:00.085
And you can still have, like, again,

01:45:00.104 --> 01:45:00.385
look at...

01:45:00.725 --> 01:45:01.626
They're about a thousand years,

01:45:04.007 --> 01:45:04.648
between two thousand and a

01:45:04.667 --> 01:45:05.208
thousand years before.

01:45:05.229 --> 01:45:06.510
Look at Dawn of the Jedi.

01:45:07.470 --> 01:45:09.372
Look at those stories that are out there.

01:45:10.052 --> 01:45:13.176
And, you know, I would say continue to get,

01:45:13.395 --> 01:45:14.157
if you're going to get away,

01:45:14.176 --> 01:45:14.936
because I'm a little

01:45:14.976 --> 01:45:16.838
nervous now about the other

01:45:16.878 --> 01:45:18.720
movie that we don't know,

01:45:18.761 --> 01:45:19.440
that was announced,

01:45:19.480 --> 01:45:20.261
but we haven't heard much

01:45:20.282 --> 01:45:25.225
about with the... I believe so, yes.

01:45:25.966 --> 01:45:26.568
I'm hoping...

01:45:27.268 --> 01:45:28.467
I'm hoping that Ryan

01:45:28.488 --> 01:45:30.469
Gosling's the only news so far,

01:45:30.509 --> 01:45:31.689
but that was really it.

01:45:32.009 --> 01:45:33.930
He's still only rumored.

01:45:34.689 --> 01:45:35.590
Rumored, exactly.

01:45:35.630 --> 01:45:37.250
Not even totally confirmed,

01:45:38.430 --> 01:45:41.970
but you have content to work with.

01:45:42.591 --> 01:45:44.912
You have, again, the book lore.

01:45:45.011 --> 01:45:46.612
I know Disney's kind of

01:45:46.631 --> 01:45:47.351
stickler about what are we

01:45:47.372 --> 01:45:49.653
going to make canon, what's not canon,

01:45:50.132 --> 01:45:51.932
but there's so much great content there.

01:45:51.953 --> 01:45:52.854
The books will always be canon.

01:45:52.873 --> 01:45:54.314
I don't care what Disney says.

01:45:55.533 --> 01:45:58.435
Yeah, but that's the thing.

01:45:59.176 --> 01:46:00.516
They're starting to pull some of that.

01:46:00.537 --> 01:46:01.296
The Acolyte, I think,

01:46:01.337 --> 01:46:02.636
pulled a lot of those ideas,

01:46:02.657 --> 01:46:03.478
and that's what I enjoyed

01:46:03.518 --> 01:46:04.257
about the Acolyte,

01:46:04.278 --> 01:46:06.378
and we've all talked about it.

01:46:06.479 --> 01:46:07.179
Some of what made the

01:46:07.238 --> 01:46:08.899
Acolyte work was the

01:46:08.939 --> 01:46:10.280
content they pulled from

01:46:10.980 --> 01:46:12.881
this existing lore and the

01:46:12.921 --> 01:46:14.141
speculation about who was

01:46:14.162 --> 01:46:14.922
the Sith going to be that

01:46:14.962 --> 01:46:15.422
was going to show up.

01:46:15.443 --> 01:46:16.363
Are they going to bring in somebody?

01:46:16.703 --> 01:46:17.944
People who've read the books

01:46:17.963 --> 01:46:19.243
are really curious about that,

01:46:19.304 --> 01:46:20.404
and you can bring them in

01:46:20.444 --> 01:46:21.886
if you pull in those

01:46:21.945 --> 01:46:22.666
elements and make them

01:46:23.265 --> 01:46:25.627
work um so I think it's

01:46:25.667 --> 01:46:27.228
again revisiting and

01:46:27.268 --> 01:46:28.408
looking at some of the book

01:46:28.429 --> 01:46:29.788
content like look at thrawn

01:46:30.590 --> 01:46:32.451
you know like and how epic

01:46:32.470 --> 01:46:34.992
of a trilogy if you don't

01:46:35.112 --> 01:46:38.333
own his trilogy go go get it yeah

01:46:39.054 --> 01:46:41.274
And I mean, so I'm here.

01:46:41.555 --> 01:46:42.555
I'm in favor of looking at

01:46:42.595 --> 01:46:44.296
the books for ideas.

01:46:44.617 --> 01:46:47.677
I have a question for Amanda real quick.

01:46:48.217 --> 01:46:48.998
X-Men ninety seven.

01:46:49.158 --> 01:46:49.498
Great.

01:46:49.559 --> 01:46:50.800
So we they continue.

01:46:51.180 --> 01:46:51.859
They continue.

01:46:51.899 --> 01:46:53.100
That's the continuation of

01:46:53.121 --> 01:46:54.600
the original X-Men animated series.

01:46:55.202 --> 01:46:55.641
Such like.

01:46:56.583 --> 01:46:59.225
Do you think they could do that with, like,

01:46:59.345 --> 01:47:01.326
Clone Wars or Rebels or

01:47:01.365 --> 01:47:01.926
something like that,

01:47:01.966 --> 01:47:03.087
where they could take

01:47:03.787 --> 01:47:05.689
characters from a beloved

01:47:05.769 --> 01:47:07.510
animated series and

01:47:07.970 --> 01:47:09.711
continue it with some of

01:47:09.770 --> 01:47:11.372
the vocal cast that's already there?

01:47:11.452 --> 01:47:12.112
Obviously, like...

01:47:13.911 --> 01:47:17.332
Do you think that could work?

01:47:17.372 --> 01:47:18.113
Realistically,

01:47:18.233 --> 01:47:19.993
Rebels is your best shot and

01:47:20.012 --> 01:47:20.813
they've already done it

01:47:20.832 --> 01:47:21.634
because if you're trying to

01:47:21.654 --> 01:47:23.974
work in the Mando universe in time frame,

01:47:25.135 --> 01:47:26.135
you already are starting to

01:47:26.175 --> 01:47:27.454
pull characters like Zeb.

01:47:27.795 --> 01:47:28.895
Again, you've pulled Ahsoka.

01:47:29.216 --> 01:47:30.055
You've pulled Hera.

01:47:30.756 --> 01:47:31.155
Sabine,

01:47:31.195 --> 01:47:32.756
you're pulling them into the live action.

01:47:33.577 --> 01:47:34.497
And Chopper, of course,

01:47:34.617 --> 01:47:35.677
the greatest droid that ever lived.

01:47:37.057 --> 01:47:38.478
I love it.

01:47:40.179 --> 01:47:40.599
I'm here for it.

01:47:41.118 --> 01:47:44.082
um but I think you can but

01:47:44.141 --> 01:47:45.182
if you're going to continue

01:47:45.403 --> 01:47:46.243
any of the animated series

01:47:46.262 --> 01:47:47.024
like clone wars has a

01:47:47.083 --> 01:47:50.527
definitive yeah rebels in

01:47:50.587 --> 01:47:51.728
essence was the

01:47:51.768 --> 01:47:53.930
continuation and in the in

01:47:53.970 --> 01:47:55.390
the time frame of the clone

01:47:55.411 --> 01:47:56.631
wars so I mean that's like

01:47:56.891 --> 01:47:58.233
considered a sequel series

01:47:58.273 --> 01:48:00.095
if you will but if you're going to

01:48:01.573 --> 01:48:02.373
if you're going to carry

01:48:02.413 --> 01:48:03.574
over any of the characters,

01:48:03.775 --> 01:48:04.817
it would most certainly be

01:48:04.856 --> 01:48:05.618
those from Rebels.

01:48:05.658 --> 01:48:06.439
So you can,

01:48:06.798 --> 01:48:07.460
I think if you're going to go

01:48:07.479 --> 01:48:08.360
the animated route,

01:48:08.421 --> 01:48:10.243
you can do it incorporating

01:48:10.543 --> 01:48:11.404
Rebels characters.

01:48:11.524 --> 01:48:13.707
It's just going to be, and I mean,

01:48:13.747 --> 01:48:14.788
some of them did carry over.

01:48:14.809 --> 01:48:15.389
I mean, Hera,

01:48:15.449 --> 01:48:16.990
you could even carry Hera and

01:48:17.051 --> 01:48:18.573
Kanan's son over.

01:48:18.632 --> 01:48:19.594
They started doing that with

01:48:19.635 --> 01:48:20.475
Rise of Skywalker.

01:48:20.956 --> 01:48:22.237
Because their ship, the ghost,

01:48:22.296 --> 01:48:24.618
is in the fight.

01:48:24.658 --> 01:48:26.378
So you can technically even

01:48:26.399 --> 01:48:27.819
carry a series where it's Jace.

01:48:27.838 --> 01:48:28.600
You're following Jace.

01:48:29.239 --> 01:48:30.000
Jace is Sindala.

01:48:30.621 --> 01:48:31.360
Or Jace Sindala.

01:48:31.560 --> 01:48:35.842
And that could work in an animated format.

01:48:35.903 --> 01:48:37.024
So that's a way to bring

01:48:37.083 --> 01:48:38.224
over the characters.

01:48:38.264 --> 01:48:38.663
But again,

01:48:39.564 --> 01:48:41.185
as long as Dave is allowed to

01:48:41.305 --> 01:48:42.746
write and do what he needs

01:48:42.765 --> 01:48:45.247
to do and is able to focus on writing.

01:48:45.268 --> 01:48:46.768
Because that's what made the

01:48:46.828 --> 01:48:48.229
content of the animated series,

01:48:48.649 --> 01:48:49.890
both of them, so good.

01:48:50.449 --> 01:48:51.671
was the writing and the

01:48:51.770 --> 01:48:53.150
stories and the time to let

01:48:53.190 --> 01:48:54.152
those things flush out.

01:48:54.212 --> 01:48:56.672
He, if he has too much on his plate,

01:48:58.654 --> 01:48:59.894
you can write, you know,

01:48:59.913 --> 01:49:00.914
and some people have talked

01:49:00.935 --> 01:49:01.895
about with some of the,

01:49:01.914 --> 01:49:02.895
the shorts that have come

01:49:02.996 --> 01:49:04.235
out with tales of the Jedi

01:49:04.275 --> 01:49:05.396
tales of the empire,

01:49:05.917 --> 01:49:06.796
there's been hit or miss

01:49:06.817 --> 01:49:08.217
hits or miss with some of those.

01:49:08.238 --> 01:49:08.797
Like they're not as

01:49:08.858 --> 01:49:10.538
consistently good as those

01:49:10.998 --> 01:49:12.520
in the animated again,

01:49:12.539 --> 01:49:13.500
clone wars and rebels.

01:49:14.220 --> 01:49:14.921
If you don't have Dave,

01:49:15.121 --> 01:49:15.961
Dave Filoni doesn't have

01:49:16.001 --> 01:49:16.902
the space to write and

01:49:18.543 --> 01:49:20.346
then you have to be careful

01:49:20.367 --> 01:49:21.028
with that too because you

01:49:21.047 --> 01:49:22.229
don't want to start digging

01:49:22.248 --> 01:49:24.192
the animated series and

01:49:24.212 --> 01:49:25.394
start having that take a turn.

01:49:26.655 --> 01:49:27.577
Tells of the Empire is a

01:49:27.617 --> 01:49:28.497
good example of that.

01:49:29.099 --> 01:49:30.360
Yeah.

01:49:30.421 --> 01:49:31.622
I knew that's what you were talking about.

01:49:32.408 --> 01:49:33.189
I just have to say,

01:49:33.208 --> 01:49:35.310
ever since you brought up my guy Chopper,

01:49:35.510 --> 01:49:37.331
all I could think about was

01:49:37.350 --> 01:49:38.251
he would have such a good

01:49:38.310 --> 01:49:40.171
time hanging with GI Robot.

01:49:40.372 --> 01:49:41.011
Yes.

01:49:41.511 --> 01:49:42.372
They would just be murdering

01:49:42.552 --> 01:49:43.493
bitches left and right.

01:49:43.552 --> 01:49:44.773
And then throw Smee in there.

01:49:44.832 --> 01:49:47.833
Can we have... I'm telling you,

01:49:48.055 --> 01:49:50.295
let's do a droids episode.

01:49:50.314 --> 01:49:51.836
Let's get everyone in there.

01:49:54.997 --> 01:49:55.837
And let's just go.

01:49:56.197 --> 01:49:57.337
There is a comic book out

01:49:57.358 --> 01:49:59.498
there called Dark Droids.

01:49:59.578 --> 01:50:00.219
Yes, there is.

01:50:00.859 --> 01:50:03.320
but nominal series the

01:50:03.560 --> 01:50:06.863
ending of that series top

01:50:07.323 --> 01:50:12.266
notch he does in this

01:50:12.327 --> 01:50:14.028
actually but he was

01:50:14.087 --> 01:50:16.670
possessed by I'll put it

01:50:16.689 --> 01:50:19.051
like this in darth vader's

01:50:19.091 --> 01:50:22.314
head isn't just anakin skywalker

01:50:23.779 --> 01:50:25.621
I will leave it at that.

01:50:25.940 --> 01:50:27.002
That's Natalie Portman.

01:50:28.021 --> 01:50:29.042
She's in all our heads.

01:50:29.382 --> 01:50:29.903
Son of a bitch.

01:50:29.943 --> 01:50:33.145
It's like Black Swan incepted C-IIIPO.

01:50:33.385 --> 01:50:33.704
Fuck.

01:50:34.145 --> 01:50:35.024
Who's ready to see her in

01:50:35.045 --> 01:50:36.565
Ahsoka Season Two flashback, y'all?

01:50:36.586 --> 01:50:37.827
Because that's the conversation.

01:50:38.947 --> 01:50:39.688
Let's fucking go.

01:50:39.787 --> 01:50:39.967
I'm ready.

01:50:40.007 --> 01:50:40.387
Bring it.

01:50:40.988 --> 01:50:42.269
I'll see her in Avengers Doomsday.

01:50:42.309 --> 01:50:44.470
Let's go.

01:50:44.550 --> 01:50:45.489
I'm ready for it.

01:50:45.511 --> 01:50:46.791
I will take Natalie Portman

01:50:47.150 --> 01:50:48.332
in anything they'll give it to us in.

01:50:49.710 --> 01:50:50.829
Let's wrap it up, guys.

01:50:51.650 --> 01:50:53.070
Did this finale deliver?

01:50:54.051 --> 01:50:55.551
We'll leave it at that.

01:50:55.591 --> 01:50:58.292
Did it deliver?

01:50:58.353 --> 01:50:59.213
Or would you want more

01:50:59.293 --> 01:51:00.673
substance out of it?

01:51:04.695 --> 01:51:05.655
I'm going to say it worked

01:51:05.695 --> 01:51:06.796
perfectly fine for me.

01:51:07.036 --> 01:51:08.216
I thought it was a good payoff.

01:51:09.476 --> 01:51:10.618
We get the, you know,

01:51:11.377 --> 01:51:16.239
our boy Jude sails off into the sunset.

01:51:16.279 --> 01:51:17.220
He didn't get captured.

01:51:17.699 --> 01:51:19.121
So he lives to ride another day.

01:51:20.404 --> 01:51:21.604
The kids have their adventure.

01:51:21.864 --> 01:51:25.127
Wim ultimately has the

01:51:25.146 --> 01:51:25.886
adventure he's always

01:51:25.926 --> 01:51:27.127
wanted with his dad.

01:51:27.148 --> 01:51:27.969
That's what he wanted.

01:51:28.009 --> 01:51:30.130
He wanted his dad to pay attention to him,

01:51:30.170 --> 01:51:33.311
to be his dad.

01:51:33.452 --> 01:51:35.793
To be involved in his life.

01:51:36.194 --> 01:51:37.534
That was a big thing.

01:51:38.295 --> 01:51:40.556
I think that message was delivered.

01:51:41.636 --> 01:51:43.796
And they all became actual

01:51:43.837 --> 01:51:45.537
friends instead of just a

01:51:45.578 --> 01:51:46.599
bunch of kids thrown together.

01:51:46.618 --> 01:51:47.979
And I think that's what they all needed.

01:51:48.039 --> 01:51:49.480
And I think it paid off beautifully.

01:51:49.600 --> 01:51:52.101
It's just like, it's a nice, simple,

01:51:52.681 --> 01:51:53.262
happy ending.

01:51:53.363 --> 01:51:55.304
And like, I'm good with that.

01:51:57.837 --> 01:51:58.057
Amanda.

01:51:58.078 --> 01:51:59.038
I delivered for me too.

01:51:59.219 --> 01:52:00.739
I think it closed the

01:52:00.780 --> 01:52:02.903
chapter on this story effectively,

01:52:03.103 --> 01:52:03.703
you know, like,

01:52:04.083 --> 01:52:06.225
but yet still left breathing room for the,

01:52:06.926 --> 01:52:07.226
you know,

01:52:07.367 --> 01:52:08.347
I think whim is probably the

01:52:08.368 --> 01:52:09.590
most likely of the children,

01:52:09.649 --> 01:52:10.270
although I would love to

01:52:10.289 --> 01:52:11.591
see Neil in a future project,

01:52:11.652 --> 01:52:13.594
but I think web is the most likely to,

01:52:13.694 --> 01:52:15.475
to show up, um, and,

01:52:15.676 --> 01:52:16.657
and a future star Wars

01:52:16.697 --> 01:52:17.939
project in like a rogue

01:52:17.979 --> 01:52:18.859
squadrons perhaps.

01:52:18.878 --> 01:52:19.319
Yeah.

01:52:19.460 --> 01:52:20.539
Could be, could be.

01:52:20.680 --> 01:52:21.501
Oh, come on.

01:52:21.520 --> 01:52:23.121
You've got to have Neil in that, too,

01:52:23.161 --> 01:52:25.282
just to be his nervous goose.

01:52:25.462 --> 01:52:26.561
I know.

01:52:27.162 --> 01:52:28.462
Hopefully better faith than goose.

01:52:28.662 --> 01:52:29.002
Hopefully.

01:52:29.143 --> 01:52:30.184
I was thinking more like his

01:52:30.264 --> 01:52:34.225
camp friend from Ferris Bueller.

01:52:34.244 --> 01:52:34.345
Oh, no.

01:52:36.310 --> 01:52:37.371
Yeah, I like it.

01:52:37.530 --> 01:52:38.811
I like it.

01:52:38.832 --> 01:52:39.853
That would be so great.

01:52:42.054 --> 01:52:43.033
I like that they left the

01:52:43.094 --> 01:52:45.376
ending for Jude Law open to return.

01:52:45.395 --> 01:52:46.856
I think he's the most likely

01:52:46.877 --> 01:52:47.837
of the characters to show

01:52:47.896 --> 01:52:49.097
up in a future Star Wars project.

01:52:49.377 --> 01:52:50.257
I would love to see him show

01:52:50.298 --> 01:52:52.380
up in somebody like Hondo

01:52:52.460 --> 01:52:53.940
and Naka's crew would be great.

01:52:54.761 --> 01:52:55.841
So we didn't mention this,

01:52:55.862 --> 01:52:57.502
but Hondo and Naka's

01:52:58.542 --> 01:53:01.666
ship was at the space it was

01:53:03.447 --> 01:53:05.288
what was it episode one yes

01:53:05.349 --> 01:53:06.590
hondo was there we just

01:53:06.609 --> 01:53:08.131
didn't see hondo it was

01:53:08.171 --> 01:53:10.512
either yeah one or two so I

01:53:10.533 --> 01:53:11.432
thought that was a cool one

01:53:12.173 --> 01:53:13.595
I will always pop for hondo

01:53:13.755 --> 01:53:15.737
I don't care bring me hondo

01:53:15.917 --> 01:53:18.179
bring me hondo randy what you think

01:53:19.158 --> 01:53:19.797
Well, as we know,

01:53:19.837 --> 01:53:21.198
the execs over at Disney

01:53:21.238 --> 01:53:22.559
are always tuned into my

01:53:22.599 --> 01:53:24.699
podcast drops because they

01:53:24.739 --> 01:53:25.520
know that I've got my

01:53:25.560 --> 01:53:26.541
finger on the pulse of the

01:53:26.581 --> 01:53:27.621
industry and whatnot.

01:53:27.961 --> 01:53:29.542
And listen, Disney, I love this show.

01:53:29.942 --> 01:53:30.822
Give me more of it.

01:53:31.403 --> 01:53:32.182
That being said,

01:53:33.323 --> 01:53:35.384
I didn't think the finale

01:53:35.503 --> 01:53:36.824
fully worked for me.

01:53:36.904 --> 01:53:37.225
Yeah.

01:53:38.548 --> 01:53:39.630
I don't have horrible things

01:53:39.670 --> 01:53:40.371
to say about it.

01:53:40.390 --> 01:53:42.412
But the main reason it

01:53:42.431 --> 01:53:43.592
didn't fully work for me is

01:53:43.872 --> 01:53:44.713
I loved this show,

01:53:44.753 --> 01:53:46.635
but I think the sweet spot

01:53:46.735 --> 01:53:48.796
of it was episodes five and

01:53:48.856 --> 01:53:51.118
six where we were the gooniest,

01:53:51.798 --> 01:53:53.661
where the kids were on their own,

01:53:53.740 --> 01:53:55.462
surviving on their own the most.

01:53:55.862 --> 01:53:56.523
And I was a little bit

01:53:56.582 --> 01:53:58.064
bummed out that we took two

01:53:58.144 --> 01:54:00.065
episodes mostly to just like...

01:54:00.685 --> 01:54:02.426
get the parents back involved,

01:54:02.506 --> 01:54:04.587
like solve this big mystery of that.

01:54:04.627 --> 01:54:06.307
And I would have preferred

01:54:06.328 --> 01:54:08.069
to see them out there adventuring,

01:54:08.109 --> 01:54:08.628
like just kind of

01:54:08.649 --> 01:54:10.010
continuing to become

01:54:10.069 --> 01:54:11.430
pirates or at the very

01:54:11.470 --> 01:54:13.331
least solve it on their own.

01:54:13.411 --> 01:54:14.311
Stay a little bit more in

01:54:14.351 --> 01:54:15.912
this sort of like fantasy

01:54:16.091 --> 01:54:17.813
ask environment a little bit more.

01:54:17.853 --> 01:54:19.253
That's giving me, you know,

01:54:19.274 --> 01:54:20.234
like when that big crab

01:54:20.253 --> 01:54:21.154
creature comes out,

01:54:21.213 --> 01:54:22.454
I'm getting shades of like

01:54:22.494 --> 01:54:24.935
the never ending story and

01:54:25.015 --> 01:54:27.117
all these stories where kids have to like

01:54:27.617 --> 01:54:29.038
indoor completely on their

01:54:29.139 --> 01:54:30.140
own and it lost like a

01:54:30.260 --> 01:54:31.501
little bit of that magic

01:54:31.560 --> 01:54:33.262
for me in those closing two

01:54:33.283 --> 01:54:34.243
episodes I think that's why

01:54:34.324 --> 01:54:35.546
I've been throwing so much

01:54:35.586 --> 01:54:37.148
shade on the parents is

01:54:37.228 --> 01:54:38.909
that like you know like

01:54:39.010 --> 01:54:40.631
like kb and neil really get

01:54:40.712 --> 01:54:42.092
sidelined for the finale

01:54:42.292 --> 01:54:44.154
like I love neil I love

01:54:44.176 --> 01:54:45.756
that he accesses that that

01:54:45.817 --> 01:54:48.600
turret and buys them some time but like

01:54:49.180 --> 01:54:51.220
They do all that so that the

01:54:51.261 --> 01:54:52.421
parents are back in and

01:54:52.462 --> 01:54:53.502
we're losing the time with

01:54:53.521 --> 01:54:54.181
that friendship.

01:54:54.221 --> 01:54:55.601
So I wish it had gone a

01:54:55.641 --> 01:54:56.622
little bit differently.

01:54:57.222 --> 01:54:58.962
But I am also not one who's

01:54:58.983 --> 01:55:00.342
going to trash on creatives

01:55:00.363 --> 01:55:01.283
because I love what they

01:55:01.323 --> 01:55:02.264
did with this show.

01:55:02.823 --> 01:55:04.384
And it is not my show to make.

01:55:04.444 --> 01:55:10.685
And I think they did a phenomenal job.

01:55:10.725 --> 01:55:11.206
Very true.

01:55:11.765 --> 01:55:12.725
I can't argue that.

01:55:13.326 --> 01:55:14.426
I agree with the parents part.

01:55:14.726 --> 01:55:15.846
The parents did kind of.

01:55:16.851 --> 01:55:17.792
It's always the parents, man.

01:55:17.851 --> 01:55:19.332
Parents ruin shit.

01:55:19.353 --> 01:55:20.172
Just ask my daughter.

01:55:24.135 --> 01:55:26.275
But that is it, guys.

01:55:26.315 --> 01:55:29.277
I know the plan was to get a little, hey,

01:55:29.296 --> 01:55:31.177
what are you watching in an anime?

01:55:31.358 --> 01:55:34.179
But we've gone two hours.

01:55:35.500 --> 01:55:36.860
I think we'll call it here.

01:55:38.201 --> 01:55:40.221
So we'll do the traditions.

01:55:40.442 --> 01:55:42.002
We'll start with Bill.

01:55:42.502 --> 01:55:42.903
Bill,

01:55:43.143 --> 01:55:44.484
tell the folks where they can find you.

01:55:45.430 --> 01:55:47.752
Uh, check, uh, don't need to follow me,

01:55:47.792 --> 01:55:48.511
but follow the pop

01:55:48.532 --> 01:55:50.273
break.com every single day.

01:55:50.313 --> 01:55:50.632
We're,

01:55:50.672 --> 01:55:51.974
we're turning out a lot of great

01:55:52.014 --> 01:55:52.935
content right now.

01:55:53.515 --> 01:55:55.957
Our music section is ramping up, um,

01:55:55.997 --> 01:55:57.677
doing a lot more interviews these days.

01:55:57.717 --> 01:55:59.139
Got a whole bunch coming out.

01:55:59.458 --> 01:56:01.140
We're going to be talking with a,

01:56:01.579 --> 01:56:02.159
believe it or not.

01:56:02.240 --> 01:56:04.221
I have got three interviews in three days.

01:56:04.726 --> 01:56:06.408
First one is a surf rock

01:56:06.448 --> 01:56:07.770
band out of Poland called

01:56:08.050 --> 01:56:09.690
Igor Jeziak and the Surfers.

01:56:10.112 --> 01:56:11.493
Yeah, they're one of one out there,

01:56:11.592 --> 01:56:12.753
and they're actually really great.

01:56:13.914 --> 01:56:15.055
That's part of our High Tide

01:56:15.095 --> 01:56:15.895
interview series,

01:56:16.377 --> 01:56:17.337
which is an international

01:56:17.398 --> 01:56:18.878
surf label out of Freehold, New Jersey.

01:56:18.899 --> 01:56:20.020
So it's really awesome.

01:56:21.001 --> 01:56:23.222
Friday, sorry, Thursday,

01:56:23.243 --> 01:56:24.703
we're going to be doing Surfing for Daisy,

01:56:24.724 --> 01:56:25.864
which is they're doing a

01:56:25.904 --> 01:56:26.564
record release party.

01:56:26.585 --> 01:56:28.207
They're an independent band at Aspyr Park.

01:56:28.247 --> 01:56:28.827
Really awesome.

01:56:28.867 --> 01:56:29.948
Big things on the way for them.

01:56:30.469 --> 01:56:31.970
Then it should be Friday.

01:56:32.483 --> 01:56:33.804
band gangsta grass they'll

01:56:33.823 --> 01:56:35.444
be playing locally they did

01:56:35.465 --> 01:56:37.226
the theme song to justified

01:56:37.247 --> 01:56:39.287
uh they have a new record

01:56:40.128 --> 01:56:41.189
they are awesome so season

01:56:41.210 --> 01:56:43.511
one right uh no they did

01:56:43.532 --> 01:56:45.172
the whole series I believe

01:56:45.273 --> 01:56:49.515
for prime no no for um

01:56:49.555 --> 01:56:53.238
justified I know but the

01:56:53.298 --> 01:56:54.319
second no no no I don't

01:56:54.340 --> 01:56:55.280
know if they did primeval

01:56:56.134 --> 01:56:58.095
I know they did the original series.

01:56:58.114 --> 01:57:00.256
That was so good.

01:57:00.275 --> 01:57:01.235
They put a new album out.

01:57:01.315 --> 01:57:02.837
If you're like, hey, country,

01:57:03.436 --> 01:57:05.417
bluegrass and hip-hop don't mix.

01:57:05.518 --> 01:57:06.717
No, they make it work.

01:57:06.778 --> 01:57:07.838
And they're all from the Northeast,

01:57:07.899 --> 01:57:08.359
which is weird.

01:57:09.500 --> 01:57:10.279
So go check that out.

01:57:10.319 --> 01:57:11.340
Those are my pieces that are

01:57:11.359 --> 01:57:12.860
coming out on thepopbreak.com.

01:57:13.180 --> 01:57:14.180
Follow us on all forms of

01:57:14.240 --> 01:57:15.702
social media at The Pop Break.

01:57:16.811 --> 01:57:18.792
except for YouTube, we are at popbreak.com,

01:57:18.853 --> 01:57:19.393
all spelled out.

01:57:19.432 --> 01:57:20.212
I'm the co-host of the

01:57:20.273 --> 01:57:21.332
Socially Distanced Podcast,

01:57:21.372 --> 01:57:22.594
which drops every single

01:57:22.613 --> 01:57:24.474
Thursday with Amanda Rivas.

01:57:25.194 --> 01:57:25.935
Tomorrow,

01:57:26.034 --> 01:57:27.835
we are going to be recording our

01:57:27.954 --> 01:57:28.935
episode on your friendly

01:57:28.994 --> 01:57:29.855
neighborhood Spider-Man

01:57:29.916 --> 01:57:31.456
with Dr. The Wife for

01:57:31.475 --> 01:57:32.355
Faiths for Wrestling,

01:57:32.676 --> 01:57:34.016
completing our full month

01:57:34.096 --> 01:57:35.936
of spotlighting the Texas

01:57:35.976 --> 01:57:36.896
independent wrestling scene.

01:57:37.557 --> 01:57:39.217
So we're going to be talking about...

01:57:40.162 --> 01:57:42.304
Oh, it comes out tomorrow.

01:57:42.963 --> 01:57:43.704
It comes out tomorrow.

01:57:43.725 --> 01:57:44.444
Yeah, that's right.

01:57:44.465 --> 01:57:46.286
We've got this all taken care of.

01:57:46.326 --> 01:57:47.127
And then the following week,

01:57:47.146 --> 01:57:49.007
we're going to be doing our

01:57:49.108 --> 01:57:50.750
final NFC East group

01:57:50.770 --> 01:57:52.190
therapy session for the

01:57:52.270 --> 01:57:53.350
twenty twenty four.

01:57:53.492 --> 01:57:54.152
Twenty twenty three.

01:57:54.192 --> 01:57:54.773
Twenty twenty.

01:57:55.233 --> 01:57:55.592
I'm sorry.

01:57:55.613 --> 01:57:58.314
The twenty twenty four NFL season for you,

01:57:59.076 --> 01:58:00.636
for all of you.

01:58:01.237 --> 01:58:01.436
Oh, fine.

01:58:01.676 --> 01:58:02.377
I'm perfectly good.

01:58:03.070 --> 01:58:04.390
Not our Eagles fan.

01:58:04.451 --> 01:58:06.412
He's going to be doing well.

01:58:06.572 --> 01:58:07.832
So we got that going up.

01:58:07.872 --> 01:58:09.511
I'm also the Bill and the

01:58:09.532 --> 01:58:10.912
Bill versus the MCU podcast.

01:58:11.073 --> 01:58:11.493
On Friday,

01:58:11.533 --> 01:58:17.094
we're dropping our Marvel TV recap.

01:58:17.293 --> 01:58:17.913
I guess I don't know what

01:58:17.934 --> 01:58:18.453
the hell it's called.

01:58:18.713 --> 01:58:19.573
We talk about Echo and

01:58:19.594 --> 01:58:21.354
Agatha along with myself and Alex Marcus.

01:58:21.715 --> 01:58:23.854
And then finally, I am with TV Break,

01:58:23.875 --> 01:58:26.036
which is our monthly TV podcast.

01:58:26.055 --> 01:58:28.355
Find TV Break and Bill versus the MCU on

01:58:28.850 --> 01:58:30.171
the pop break feed on all

01:58:30.211 --> 01:58:31.452
your favorite streaming platforms,

01:58:31.631 --> 01:58:33.152
social distance on all your

01:58:33.171 --> 01:58:35.533
favorite streaming platforms as well.

01:58:35.573 --> 01:58:37.353
And then Amanda and I are

01:58:37.394 --> 01:58:40.694
joining the old chairman's buddy.

01:58:40.734 --> 01:58:42.274
Kelvin will be on the BCP

01:58:42.314 --> 01:58:44.655
plus live Thursday night,

01:58:46.542 --> 01:58:48.283
Royal rumble predictions.

01:58:48.423 --> 01:58:51.306
My favorite WWE PLE.

01:58:51.407 --> 01:58:52.587
I said it's a pay-per-view,

01:58:52.628 --> 01:58:53.488
but whatever it's PLE,

01:58:53.509 --> 01:58:56.152
I guess is my favorite one.

01:58:56.192 --> 01:58:57.713
They do every single year.

01:58:57.934 --> 01:58:58.954
Doesn't matter how good or

01:58:58.975 --> 01:58:59.775
bad the product is.

01:58:59.975 --> 01:59:01.358
I am glued to that TV.

01:59:02.099 --> 01:59:03.078
every single year and don't

01:59:03.099 --> 01:59:04.779
forget uh amanda and I are

01:59:04.800 --> 01:59:05.661
doing our first column

01:59:05.680 --> 01:59:06.961
together too on the pop

01:59:06.980 --> 01:59:08.561
break we're doing uh

01:59:08.641 --> 01:59:10.082
dueling royal rumble

01:59:10.101 --> 01:59:11.082
predictions you'll see that

01:59:11.122 --> 01:59:15.505
friday we'll jump up to you

01:59:15.564 --> 01:59:17.444
since you know yeah he's

01:59:17.465 --> 01:59:18.386
giving you the flowers

01:59:19.194 --> 01:59:21.376
bill bill got me writing so

01:59:22.337 --> 01:59:24.078
yes he does that is my goal

01:59:24.097 --> 01:59:25.158
for everyone so he's the

01:59:25.177 --> 01:59:27.338
best so um I'm excited to

01:59:27.359 --> 01:59:29.661
write and and uh write

01:59:29.820 --> 01:59:30.900
first wrestling column I'm

01:59:30.961 --> 01:59:32.721
excited I I'm I've already

01:59:32.742 --> 01:59:33.703
started doing my homework

01:59:33.962 --> 01:59:35.222
and I think I some of my

01:59:35.243 --> 01:59:36.463
predictions I think will

01:59:36.484 --> 01:59:37.784
not surprise bill and

01:59:37.824 --> 01:59:38.805
everybody but some of them

01:59:38.824 --> 01:59:39.765
are going to be like oh

01:59:39.805 --> 01:59:41.006
we're going there all right

01:59:41.086 --> 01:59:42.466
y'all doing the full thirty

01:59:42.487 --> 01:59:43.728
man roster who you expect

01:59:43.747 --> 01:59:45.168
to show up in the thirty

01:59:45.309 --> 01:59:47.529
one we're gonna we're gonna try our best

01:59:49.311 --> 01:59:51.132
yeah okay I think we're

01:59:51.153 --> 01:59:52.534
gonna get surprises we have

01:59:52.555 --> 01:59:54.155
our surprise lists and we

01:59:54.195 --> 01:59:54.997
don't even know from each

01:59:55.056 --> 01:59:56.057
other we're not gonna find

01:59:56.158 --> 01:59:58.100
out we're doing it blind I

01:59:58.140 --> 01:59:59.381
won't know and so we're

01:59:59.402 --> 02:00:00.563
gonna have it done before

02:00:00.643 --> 02:00:03.125
bcp on thursday and then I

02:00:03.145 --> 02:00:04.506
will put it together and

02:00:04.527 --> 02:00:05.387
we'll pretty much know what

02:00:05.408 --> 02:00:06.207
we're saying about that but

02:00:06.349 --> 02:00:07.890
yeah we do no idea who the

02:00:07.909 --> 02:00:08.650
other person is picking

02:00:08.990 --> 02:00:09.310
Yes.

02:00:09.470 --> 02:00:10.131
And it's exciting.

02:00:10.311 --> 02:00:12.713
So, so definitely excited to do that.

02:00:12.854 --> 02:00:13.793
And of course, as Bill mentioned,

02:00:13.814 --> 02:00:15.215
we'll be on the BCP plus

02:00:15.255 --> 02:00:16.036
and it's going to be great.

02:00:16.055 --> 02:00:16.855
Cause I always love talking

02:00:16.876 --> 02:00:17.417
wrestling with the

02:00:17.436 --> 02:00:18.717
wrestling peeps and it's going to be fun.

02:00:19.778 --> 02:00:21.198
Of course, you know,

02:00:21.219 --> 02:00:21.840
Bill talked about that.

02:00:21.880 --> 02:00:23.060
I am the co-host of the

02:00:23.100 --> 02:00:24.782
socially distanced and it's,

02:00:25.061 --> 02:00:25.601
it's a blast.

02:00:25.862 --> 02:00:26.563
It's just so much fun.

02:00:26.603 --> 02:00:28.524
You guys, everybody,

02:00:28.684 --> 02:00:29.704
everybody here has been on.

02:00:30.364 --> 02:00:31.805
And so I'm looking forward

02:00:31.826 --> 02:00:32.806
to having everybody back again.

02:00:33.608 --> 02:00:34.548
So check us out.

02:00:34.809 --> 02:00:35.069
Of course,

02:00:35.208 --> 02:00:36.550
I am the co-host of the Anime

02:00:36.590 --> 02:00:38.212
Pop podcast with my anime

02:00:38.231 --> 02:00:40.113
brother and Bill and my mutual co-host,

02:00:40.134 --> 02:00:40.814
Josh Arnecke.

02:00:41.935 --> 02:00:43.337
We have a great time geeking

02:00:43.417 --> 02:00:44.837
out on different anime that

02:00:44.858 --> 02:00:45.878
are coming out every month

02:00:46.760 --> 02:00:49.122
with a great group of guests and friends.

02:00:49.943 --> 02:00:50.884
It's a great time.

02:00:51.264 --> 02:00:52.805
Our current episode that's out right now

02:00:53.326 --> 02:00:55.226
is on solo leveling season

02:00:55.266 --> 02:00:57.509
two and Sakamoto Days.

02:00:57.948 --> 02:00:58.949
And that is with our

02:00:58.970 --> 02:00:59.909
wonderful friends over at

02:00:59.930 --> 02:01:00.671
the Blurred Watchers,

02:01:01.190 --> 02:01:02.372
Marshall and Courtney Stevenson.

02:01:02.511 --> 02:01:04.573
And it was such a great conversation.

02:01:05.134 --> 02:01:07.135
And of course, this coming month,

02:01:07.154 --> 02:01:08.615
we'll be covering season

02:01:08.655 --> 02:01:09.976
two of both My Happy

02:01:10.016 --> 02:01:12.738
Marriage and The Apothecary Diaries.

02:01:12.998 --> 02:01:13.719
So we're excited.

02:01:13.819 --> 02:01:14.640
Get a little romance theme.

02:01:15.079 --> 02:01:15.779
It's Valentine's.

02:01:15.800 --> 02:01:17.100
It's the month of love.

02:01:17.742 --> 02:01:18.902
It's appropriate.

02:01:18.921 --> 02:01:19.502
So we're excited.

02:01:19.523 --> 02:01:20.884
Sakamoto Days falls into that too.

02:01:20.984 --> 02:01:21.064
Yeah.

02:01:21.724 --> 02:01:23.166
it does it does because you

02:01:23.185 --> 02:01:24.686
can't kill otherwise you'll

02:01:24.707 --> 02:01:26.770
get a divorce and you get

02:01:26.789 --> 02:01:27.350
kicked out of the family

02:01:27.369 --> 02:01:28.350
because you've been adopted

02:01:28.610 --> 02:01:29.832
this is true this is true

02:01:29.993 --> 02:01:31.373
so it's a great anime there

02:01:31.413 --> 02:01:32.314
are so many things that

02:01:32.354 --> 02:01:33.636
happen in that one sentence

02:01:34.076 --> 02:01:34.416
Yes.

02:01:34.716 --> 02:01:35.358
You got to watch it.

02:01:35.497 --> 02:01:36.238
You got to watch it.

02:01:36.319 --> 02:01:38.801
It's really good.

02:01:39.101 --> 02:01:40.342
I think I put it... Did I

02:01:40.382 --> 02:01:41.784
add it to my list?

02:01:41.864 --> 02:01:42.886
I might have added it to my list.

02:01:43.827 --> 02:01:45.248
It's really good.

02:01:45.389 --> 02:01:46.170
I'm finishing Shogun.

02:01:46.289 --> 02:01:47.390
I'm actually doing my watch

02:01:47.430 --> 02:01:48.712
of Shogun right now so I

02:01:48.752 --> 02:01:50.435
can finally get to that.

02:01:50.454 --> 02:01:51.135
By the Super Bowl.

02:01:51.595 --> 02:01:54.537
I may do a rewatch of that one, actually.

02:01:54.557 --> 02:01:55.278
Shogun is great.

02:01:55.698 --> 02:01:57.300
It's great stuff.

02:01:57.380 --> 02:01:59.501
But yeah, check us out every month.

02:01:59.600 --> 02:02:03.944
We drop all of our anime randomness,

02:02:03.984 --> 02:02:04.644
and we love it.

02:02:04.944 --> 02:02:07.365
And so thank y'all for listening.

02:02:07.485 --> 02:02:07.945
And of course,

02:02:07.966 --> 02:02:08.907
you can follow me at

02:02:08.926 --> 02:02:10.747
AmandaLorian on Instagram and threads,

02:02:11.387 --> 02:02:13.069
at ResurShik, at BlueSky,

02:02:13.128 --> 02:02:14.409
because I love nice shows forever.

02:02:14.909 --> 02:02:19.033
And of course, we're touring.

02:02:19.172 --> 02:02:20.173
New album drop.

02:02:20.990 --> 02:02:21.850
I have a new tour.

02:02:21.930 --> 02:02:23.712
I'm ready for a tour too.

02:02:24.131 --> 02:02:24.733
It's going to happen.

02:02:24.773 --> 02:02:25.733
We just got to pick our city.

02:02:25.773 --> 02:02:26.632
We're just going to pick our city,

02:02:26.694 --> 02:02:28.474
but we're going to, but we're going.

02:02:29.255 --> 02:02:29.614
It's funny.

02:02:29.654 --> 02:02:31.274
Every time I go to tag her on blue sky,

02:02:31.295 --> 02:02:34.176
I'm like, Oh wait, back, back, back.

02:02:34.237 --> 02:02:35.037
Resnores.

02:02:35.056 --> 02:02:37.917
Randy over to you.

02:02:37.938 --> 02:02:39.439
Where can the people find you at?

02:02:40.412 --> 02:02:42.274
Listen, so first and foremost,

02:02:42.314 --> 02:02:43.615
I would love for folks to

02:02:43.636 --> 02:02:46.319
look up MediaLit, Media slash Lit,

02:02:46.338 --> 02:02:47.920
wherever you get your podcasts.

02:02:48.921 --> 02:02:50.362
We just completed our first

02:02:50.421 --> 02:02:52.104
year of podcasting together,

02:02:52.824 --> 02:02:55.847
my co-host Chris and I. On this show,

02:02:55.927 --> 02:02:57.849
it's really a show about celebrating...

02:02:58.670 --> 02:03:01.032
art and story and why it

02:03:01.051 --> 02:03:02.854
means so much to us why it

02:03:02.894 --> 02:03:04.074
makes us feel more human

02:03:04.114 --> 02:03:05.315
feel more alive it's about

02:03:05.355 --> 02:03:06.556
getting to know our guests

02:03:06.777 --> 02:03:07.637
and sometimes it's about

02:03:07.717 --> 02:03:09.260
playing pop culture themed

02:03:09.300 --> 02:03:11.782
games uh which can be a

02:03:11.841 --> 02:03:13.283
huge blast we love to do

02:03:13.483 --> 02:03:15.385
all of those things uh if

02:03:15.404 --> 02:03:16.365
you look up our pod you're

02:03:16.386 --> 02:03:19.548
gonna see a huge variety of topics um

02:03:20.869 --> 02:03:22.431
We will cover things like

02:03:22.532 --> 02:03:24.694
Marvel and Batman movies

02:03:24.814 --> 02:03:25.833
and nerd culture.

02:03:26.555 --> 02:03:28.115
We will cover more recent

02:03:28.155 --> 02:03:30.337
properties like Bill just

02:03:30.457 --> 02:03:31.458
recently completed the

02:03:31.698 --> 02:03:34.301
first in our Knives Out series.

02:03:34.341 --> 02:03:35.962
We looked back at the first film.

02:03:35.983 --> 02:03:36.743
We're going to be doing

02:03:36.783 --> 02:03:38.125
Glass Onion at some point

02:03:38.164 --> 02:03:39.725
in the not too distant future and

02:03:42.664 --> 02:03:43.045
And of course,

02:03:43.064 --> 02:03:43.966
we'll get together for Wake

02:03:44.006 --> 02:03:45.686
Up Dead Man when that releases.

02:03:46.367 --> 02:03:47.207
But we'll go anywhere.

02:03:47.927 --> 02:03:48.788
I am currently in the midst

02:03:48.828 --> 02:03:51.949
of editing a four-hour podcast,

02:03:52.430 --> 02:03:54.192
a seven-person panel that

02:03:54.231 --> 02:03:57.172
is a draft of Taylor Swift songs,

02:03:58.033 --> 02:04:00.515
masterminded by the great Alex Marcus,

02:04:00.555 --> 02:04:02.435
podcasting director of The Pop Break.

02:04:02.576 --> 02:04:03.256
This is going to be...

02:04:04.077 --> 02:04:05.958
Our kickoff event for season

02:04:05.998 --> 02:04:06.939
two of Media Lit.

02:04:07.381 --> 02:04:08.681
And the things that you

02:04:08.721 --> 02:04:10.904
shared on this podcast were

02:04:11.345 --> 02:04:13.266
incredible and personal.

02:04:13.287 --> 02:04:14.608
It was so fascinating.

02:04:15.168 --> 02:04:16.069
We got some really cool

02:04:16.109 --> 02:04:17.350
guests from a podcast

02:04:17.390 --> 02:04:19.252
called Space Swifties,

02:04:19.332 --> 02:04:20.895
which is a Star Wars slash

02:04:20.914 --> 02:04:22.515
Taylor Swift podcast.

02:04:23.277 --> 02:04:24.797
So it was quite an event.

02:04:24.859 --> 02:04:27.060
It was not supposed to be four hours, but.

02:04:28.020 --> 02:04:30.502
but it was, it was an event.

02:04:30.563 --> 02:04:31.944
So somehow I'm going to have

02:04:31.984 --> 02:04:33.845
that up by Monday, February third,

02:04:33.865 --> 02:04:35.346
and I hope people will check it out.

02:04:35.926 --> 02:04:37.108
Um, but yeah, so we're on,

02:04:37.148 --> 02:04:37.889
we're on blue sky.

02:04:37.908 --> 02:04:39.170
We're on Twitter, uh,

02:04:39.229 --> 02:04:41.591
Instagram media.lit.pod and

02:04:41.652 --> 02:04:44.793
Instagram media dash lit at blue sky.

02:04:44.854 --> 02:04:46.795
But, but basically find our episodes.

02:04:46.814 --> 02:04:47.956
You can find our website.

02:04:47.996 --> 02:04:48.657
We've got all of our

02:04:48.697 --> 02:04:49.578
different segments and

02:04:49.618 --> 02:04:50.838
things broken down there.

02:04:51.359 --> 02:04:53.159
Uh, in addition to my work on media lit,

02:04:53.740 --> 02:04:55.502
I am a huge contributing

02:04:55.542 --> 02:04:56.863
member to the pop break.

02:04:57.783 --> 02:04:57.823
Um,

02:04:58.859 --> 02:05:02.402
in podcasting, uh, next week,

02:05:02.421 --> 02:05:03.063
you're going to hear me

02:05:03.122 --> 02:05:04.583
podcasting about Taylor Swift,

02:05:04.623 --> 02:05:05.764
but right now you can hear

02:05:05.804 --> 02:05:07.505
me podcasting about black

02:05:07.545 --> 02:05:10.106
Sabbath on pod of doom with

02:05:10.146 --> 02:05:11.448
Justin and Chris Mancini.

02:05:11.467 --> 02:05:12.667
We just dropped our Sabbath

02:05:12.688 --> 02:05:15.449
bloody Sabbath podcast, uh,

02:05:15.489 --> 02:05:17.690
yesterday that just released.

02:05:17.711 --> 02:05:20.132
I added it to the queue.

02:05:20.153 --> 02:05:20.552
Thank you.

02:05:20.592 --> 02:05:21.014
Thank you.

02:05:21.314 --> 02:05:21.774
And, uh,

02:05:22.494 --> 02:05:23.574
I'm also doing a lot of

02:05:23.614 --> 02:05:24.735
television coverage over at

02:05:24.775 --> 02:05:25.536
the Pop Break.

02:05:26.976 --> 02:05:28.377
Bill was insane enough to

02:05:28.436 --> 02:05:29.537
agree to let me cover

02:05:29.617 --> 02:05:30.877
Severance week to week.

02:05:30.898 --> 02:05:31.278
Sounds about right.

02:05:31.297 --> 02:05:32.118
That's legit.

02:05:33.538 --> 02:05:35.038
I delivered with nine pages

02:05:35.118 --> 02:05:37.119
on the second episode of

02:05:37.199 --> 02:05:39.001
season two of Severance.

02:05:39.020 --> 02:05:40.140
That's about five thousand words.

02:05:41.261 --> 02:05:43.162
Yeah, it's awakened my imagination.

02:05:43.202 --> 02:05:44.421
Let's just say that much.

02:05:45.863 --> 02:05:46.703
The inner teacher is

02:05:46.762 --> 02:05:48.623
assigning himself term papers.

02:05:50.502 --> 02:05:51.301
Five thousand words,

02:05:51.381 --> 02:05:54.164
double spaced pinpoint font.

02:05:54.185 --> 02:05:54.284
Yeah.

02:05:55.386 --> 02:05:56.525
Yeah.

02:05:56.546 --> 02:05:57.346
So, yeah, check us out.

02:05:57.386 --> 02:05:58.627
And of course, check out my co-host,

02:05:58.667 --> 02:06:01.010
Chris Ingersoll, also on the pop break,

02:06:01.069 --> 02:06:02.992
co-host of Batman by the numbers,

02:06:03.112 --> 02:06:04.393
an incredibly kind guy,

02:06:04.412 --> 02:06:06.694
an incredibly smart guy and

02:06:06.814 --> 02:06:08.775
an incredible set of pipes on that one.

02:06:08.815 --> 02:06:09.596
What a voice.

02:06:09.877 --> 02:06:10.158
Yeah.

02:06:10.177 --> 02:06:11.658
So when he starts dropping his ass,

02:06:12.259 --> 02:06:12.920
it's great.

02:06:13.100 --> 02:06:14.320
It's my favorite thing in the world.

02:06:15.162 --> 02:06:16.783
I, Jeff,

02:06:17.426 --> 02:06:18.510
I just got to put over both

02:06:19.091 --> 02:06:21.662
Amanda and Randy real quick.

02:06:21.681 --> 02:06:22.002
Go for it.

02:06:22.697 --> 02:06:24.837
Amanda, we're entering our fifth season,

02:06:25.037 --> 02:06:26.278
our sixth season, I should say,

02:06:26.497 --> 02:06:27.997
episode two fifty going to be this year.

02:06:29.257 --> 02:06:30.519
Can't do couldn't have done

02:06:30.538 --> 02:06:31.198
this without Amanda.

02:06:31.238 --> 02:06:32.998
Amanda is one of the best to

02:06:33.099 --> 02:06:33.918
do a podcast with.

02:06:33.939 --> 02:06:34.739
There's like Randy said,

02:06:34.760 --> 02:06:35.880
she's everyone's big sis.

02:06:35.939 --> 02:06:36.979
So it's been great.

02:06:37.039 --> 02:06:37.479
And Randy,

02:06:37.659 --> 02:06:40.421
congratulations on one year immediately.

02:06:40.860 --> 02:06:42.060
He's a hell of a dude.

02:06:42.961 --> 02:06:44.561
And if you have a podcaster,

02:06:44.582 --> 02:06:46.301
but if you have to read what he writes,

02:06:46.921 --> 02:06:47.622
I know you're going to say

02:06:47.742 --> 02:06:50.203
nine pages on goddamn severance.

02:06:50.863 --> 02:06:53.104
what the fuck but read his

02:06:53.125 --> 02:06:55.686
stuff it is so masterfully

02:06:55.707 --> 02:06:56.787
written it's just like

02:06:57.148 --> 02:06:58.149
that's some it's some a

02:06:58.168 --> 02:06:59.550
plus level writing and jeff

02:06:59.710 --> 02:07:00.911
I have to put you over my

02:07:00.951 --> 02:07:02.792
friend thank you for having

02:07:02.853 --> 02:07:04.493
us yes podcast thank you

02:07:04.573 --> 02:07:05.914
for one always being a

02:07:05.994 --> 02:07:08.457
constant supporter of us at

02:07:08.497 --> 02:07:09.979
the pop break and randy at

02:07:09.998 --> 02:07:11.479
media lid it means the

02:07:11.500 --> 02:07:12.701
world to us that you always

02:07:12.720 --> 02:07:13.902
share our content it means

02:07:13.942 --> 02:07:15.542
the world that you can come on our show

02:07:16.059 --> 02:07:17.538
talk to us be a part of uh

02:07:17.559 --> 02:07:19.359
be a part of pop break and

02:07:19.380 --> 02:07:20.340
for letting us come out and

02:07:20.380 --> 02:07:21.359
be a part of your first

02:07:21.420 --> 02:07:22.600
ever live stream although

02:07:23.600 --> 02:07:24.740
not your first ever live

02:07:24.761 --> 02:07:26.020
stream but we're glad to be

02:07:26.060 --> 02:07:27.081
glad to be a part of it and

02:07:27.320 --> 02:07:28.560
we're glad you have

02:07:28.822 --> 02:07:30.282
definitely be I didn't

02:07:30.301 --> 02:07:31.362
realize I was going to have to wait

02:07:42.301 --> 02:07:43.301
Thank you so much, Jeff,

02:07:43.322 --> 02:07:44.542
because I've loved becoming

02:07:44.862 --> 02:07:46.722
a creator in this past year.

02:07:47.042 --> 02:07:48.163
But what I've loved just as

02:07:48.203 --> 02:07:49.083
much as that is the

02:07:49.123 --> 02:07:50.244
community that comes with

02:07:50.284 --> 02:07:52.206
podcasting and entertainment writing.

02:07:52.626 --> 02:07:53.926
And you are such an active

02:07:53.966 --> 02:07:55.006
and thoughtful and caring

02:07:55.046 --> 02:07:56.148
member of that community.

02:07:56.207 --> 02:07:57.948
So thank you so much for the support.

02:07:58.512 --> 02:08:00.894
yes absolutely absolutely

02:08:00.913 --> 02:08:02.234
it's always a blast thank

02:08:02.314 --> 02:08:03.456
you I I appreciate the kind

02:08:03.496 --> 02:08:05.115
words they they do mean a

02:08:05.155 --> 02:08:06.216
lot and anytime I get

02:08:06.237 --> 02:08:07.417
invited on to anybody's

02:08:07.457 --> 02:08:09.479
podcast I I try to put

02:08:09.538 --> 02:08:11.819
everything into it and when

02:08:12.300 --> 02:08:13.381
bill invites me to write

02:08:13.421 --> 02:08:14.701
something that to me means

02:08:14.720 --> 02:08:16.681
the world that he he trusts

02:08:16.721 --> 02:08:18.443
this illiterate alabamian

02:08:18.502 --> 02:08:21.564
to uh to write for him and

02:08:21.965 --> 02:08:23.945
I there's gonna be more I I

02:08:23.966 --> 02:08:26.287
know I'm here I'm here for

02:08:26.306 --> 02:08:28.047
it I love it um

02:08:29.021 --> 02:08:29.802
So what's going on with me?

02:08:30.684 --> 02:08:31.505
Last night,

02:08:32.006 --> 02:08:33.547
I got the opportunity to read a

02:08:33.608 --> 02:08:35.711
new Kickstarter out there

02:08:35.730 --> 02:08:38.274
by Bruno Caterino from the UK.

02:08:38.314 --> 02:08:41.318
Of course, a great British name,

02:08:41.337 --> 02:08:42.640
Bruno Caterino.

02:08:42.720 --> 02:08:43.480
I know, right?

02:08:44.688 --> 02:08:47.310
And it was a really good comic book.

02:08:47.449 --> 02:08:49.110
I was surprised.

02:08:49.230 --> 02:08:52.313
I was not expecting what I got from it.

02:08:52.774 --> 02:08:53.854
And when I literally say, like,

02:08:54.795 --> 02:08:55.975
you will be surprised of

02:08:56.015 --> 02:08:57.596
who is experiencing these

02:08:57.716 --> 02:09:00.458
very human emotions in this book.

02:09:02.302 --> 02:09:03.422
It got my seal of approval,

02:09:04.264 --> 02:09:07.485
so it's up right now on thedfpn.com.

02:09:08.806 --> 02:09:09.887
There's been two books that

02:09:09.927 --> 02:09:11.048
I put my seal of approval

02:09:11.109 --> 02:09:12.270
on over on Kickstarter I

02:09:12.289 --> 02:09:13.671
was invited to read,

02:09:14.471 --> 02:09:16.592
and both of them were phenomenal.

02:09:17.493 --> 02:09:18.173
That's why they're both

02:09:18.234 --> 02:09:19.435
hanging right now on

02:09:19.756 --> 02:09:22.358
thedfpn.com under Comics.

02:09:23.561 --> 02:09:25.783
And if you have a

02:09:25.844 --> 02:09:27.064
Kickstarter out there that

02:09:27.085 --> 02:09:28.286
you would like me to read

02:09:28.886 --> 02:09:29.627
and possibly put my

02:09:29.667 --> 02:09:31.587
syllable of approval on, hit me up.

02:09:31.667 --> 02:09:32.529
I'm not hard to find.

02:09:32.588 --> 02:09:37.131
It's TheChairman at USDNPodcast.com.

02:09:38.432 --> 02:09:39.293
That's my plug for that.

02:09:39.333 --> 02:09:39.814
Shameless.

02:09:40.074 --> 02:09:41.114
I'd love to read your comic

02:09:41.135 --> 02:09:42.536
books and tell you what I

02:09:42.555 --> 02:09:43.037
think about them.

02:09:43.951 --> 02:09:46.733
But you can find me across

02:09:46.813 --> 02:09:47.793
all social media platforms

02:09:47.873 --> 02:09:49.614
at USDN Podcast.

02:09:49.635 --> 02:09:50.515
So for Blue Sky,

02:09:50.536 --> 02:09:52.917
you can find me at the USDN

02:09:52.957 --> 02:09:54.319
Chairman over there on Blue Sky.

02:09:54.958 --> 02:09:56.220
And it's a little bit more personable.

02:09:56.860 --> 02:09:58.060
I do share a lot more of the

02:09:58.121 --> 02:09:59.442
comic book stuff over there

02:10:00.243 --> 02:10:01.564
and do a lot more with

02:10:01.923 --> 02:10:02.845
comic book interactions

02:10:02.885 --> 02:10:06.427
with the writers and that kind of stuff.

02:10:06.488 --> 02:10:07.609
So what's coming up for me

02:10:08.328 --> 02:10:09.789
tomorrow is New Comic Book Day,

02:10:09.810 --> 02:10:10.570
so you can expect that

02:10:10.610 --> 02:10:11.832
episode sometime tomorrow.

02:10:12.815 --> 02:10:14.096
I love to say I was going to

02:10:14.117 --> 02:10:14.677
shoot it today,

02:10:14.698 --> 02:10:15.759
but I don't get my comic

02:10:15.779 --> 02:10:16.739
books until tomorrow.

02:10:17.661 --> 02:10:18.783
So I'll shoot that tomorrow

02:10:18.802 --> 02:10:19.483
after work sometime.

02:10:22.867 --> 02:10:24.328
Some point next week,

02:10:24.368 --> 02:10:26.770
I'll be sitting down with Bruno Caterino.

02:10:27.846 --> 02:10:28.408
from the UK.

02:10:28.427 --> 02:10:29.930
We're just trying to figure

02:10:29.970 --> 02:10:31.291
out a good day and time to

02:10:31.331 --> 02:10:32.592
sit down and he's going to

02:10:32.613 --> 02:10:33.533
come on and tell us about

02:10:33.573 --> 02:10:34.775
his new comic book called

02:10:34.815 --> 02:10:36.358
Bereavement that is live

02:10:37.099 --> 02:10:39.462
right now on Kickstarter.

02:10:40.141 --> 02:10:41.543
So I'm really excited to sit

02:10:41.583 --> 02:10:42.444
down with him and

02:10:43.166 --> 02:10:44.046
and talk to him about his

02:10:44.105 --> 02:10:44.987
new book and hopefully get

02:10:45.006 --> 02:10:46.027
some eyes on it and maybe

02:10:46.046 --> 02:10:47.688
some support for him in his

02:10:47.728 --> 02:10:49.349
new comic book because it

02:10:49.509 --> 02:10:50.309
really was good.

02:10:51.328 --> 02:10:52.090
Yeah, it was good.

02:10:52.489 --> 02:10:53.710
The art was phenomenal.

02:10:55.350 --> 02:10:56.810
If you're a fan of the newer

02:10:57.072 --> 02:10:58.431
style art that's out right now,

02:10:59.131 --> 02:11:00.432
it almost looks AI,

02:11:00.453 --> 02:11:01.292
but you can tell there's a

02:11:01.332 --> 02:11:02.833
human behind the pencil doing it,

02:11:03.394 --> 02:11:08.355
then you'll enjoy the art in it as well.

02:11:08.395 --> 02:11:09.556
That's it for me.

02:11:10.037 --> 02:11:10.377
Randy.

02:11:11.877 --> 02:11:13.398
Since you are the new guy,

02:11:14.158 --> 02:11:15.478
I want to take the time now

02:11:15.597 --> 02:11:16.859
to welcome you.

02:11:17.639 --> 02:11:18.699
You are official.

02:11:19.140 --> 02:11:21.020
You have gained the seal of

02:11:21.060 --> 02:11:22.421
approval from the chairman.

02:11:22.801 --> 02:11:25.101
You are officially a council member.

02:11:25.942 --> 02:11:27.922
It comes with tons of responsibility.

02:11:28.662 --> 02:11:31.083
It's mainly just like, hey, dude,

02:11:31.123 --> 02:11:32.204
you want to do a show on this?

02:11:33.262 --> 02:11:34.122
Randomly throughout the

02:11:34.162 --> 02:11:36.524
month is what you get out of that.

02:11:36.845 --> 02:11:37.744
There's no real perks,

02:11:38.045 --> 02:11:39.045
just random invites to

02:11:39.064 --> 02:11:41.726
podcast and that kind of stuff.

02:11:42.067 --> 02:11:43.306
So welcome to the team, Randy.

02:11:43.346 --> 02:11:44.768
We appreciate you coming on tonight.

02:11:45.207 --> 02:11:47.429
Amanda, as always, I appreciate you.

02:11:48.349 --> 02:11:50.109
Anytime I'm talking Star Wars,

02:11:50.489 --> 02:11:51.591
you don't even need the invite.

02:11:51.610 --> 02:11:52.551
Just show up at the door.

02:11:54.192 --> 02:11:57.393
So I'm so honored to, to be on the board.

02:11:57.453 --> 02:11:58.693
Thank you so much for having me.

02:11:59.073 --> 02:11:59.893
Can't wait to get you on

02:11:59.934 --> 02:12:01.594
media lit and make you an official.

02:12:01.654 --> 02:12:03.734
We're going to find, it'll be awesome.

02:12:04.034 --> 02:12:04.694
We're going to get us a

02:12:04.734 --> 02:12:05.975
topic together and we're

02:12:05.996 --> 02:12:08.015
going to rock one hell of a fucking show.

02:12:08.355 --> 02:12:09.216
I am not kidding you.

02:12:10.637 --> 02:12:12.498
but for me that is it I want

02:12:12.519 --> 02:12:13.359
to thank everybody who

02:12:13.399 --> 02:12:14.378
tuned in tonight I've seen

02:12:14.418 --> 02:12:15.840
we had about five viewers

02:12:15.920 --> 02:12:17.140
at one point I do

02:12:17.199 --> 02:12:18.340
appreciate each and every

02:12:18.420 --> 02:12:19.480
one of you who are sticking

02:12:19.501 --> 02:12:20.621
around I still see I have

02:12:20.780 --> 02:12:22.440
one person watching so I

02:12:22.461 --> 02:12:23.622
appreciate that one person

02:12:23.641 --> 02:12:24.622
for sticking around and

02:12:24.761 --> 02:12:25.942
watching and supporting the

02:12:25.981 --> 02:12:27.802
podcast I know we got off

02:12:27.842 --> 02:12:28.962
topic a few times but

02:12:29.863 --> 02:12:30.684
that's the fun of this

02:12:30.743 --> 02:12:32.923
right but on behalf of

02:12:32.963 --> 02:12:35.465
myself my council of nerds

02:12:35.545 --> 02:12:38.386
and my newest council of nerd member

02:12:39.908 --> 02:12:41.291
Thank you all for tuning in.

02:12:41.631 --> 02:12:43.234
And on behalf of myself and

02:12:43.274 --> 02:12:44.976
this fine council sitting in front of me,

02:12:45.757 --> 02:12:51.225
this show is USDN approved.

02:12:51.265 --> 02:12:52.587
It's supposed to play my outro.

02:12:53.109 --> 02:12:54.211
Why ain't it playing my outro?