WEBVTT NOTE This file was generated by Descript 00:00:00.208 --> 00:00:02.218 Joe: I really found that I look around. 00:00:02.498 --> 00:00:05.378 That the romantic love I say is this ideal. 00:00:05.518 --> 00:00:06.148 The animal. 00:00:06.542 --> 00:00:10.052 The anima is the ideal you carry within yourself. 00:00:10.286 --> 00:00:12.086 Did you put on two different entities? 00:00:12.270 --> 00:00:13.050 Out there. 00:00:13.197 --> 00:00:14.727 And you, you not with that. 00:00:15.019 --> 00:00:17.119 Pretty soon you see through the projection. 00:00:17.370 --> 00:00:18.480 And then what happens? 00:00:18.949 --> 00:00:21.259 Uh, that's Joseph Campbell from an interview. 00:00:21.709 --> 00:00:22.129 He did. 00:00:22.375 --> 00:00:26.215 I want to pretend to be an expert on what the animal is. 00:00:26.875 --> 00:00:27.535 But I. 00:00:27.708 --> 00:00:30.168 Took note of this because it resonated with me. 00:00:30.382 --> 00:00:33.412 And I can see that I've done this. 00:00:33.892 --> 00:00:35.302 Throughout my adult life. 00:00:35.752 --> 00:00:37.312 It's project something. 00:00:38.032 --> 00:00:39.982 On to a woman in my case. 00:00:40.163 --> 00:00:43.673 And then basically have a relationship with that projection. 00:00:43.957 --> 00:00:47.857 And there's an incredible high that comes from doing that. 00:00:48.020 --> 00:00:51.650 And they become perfected in your mind. 00:00:51.650 --> 00:00:51.980 And. 00:00:52.192 --> 00:00:53.302 Quite often. 00:00:53.502 --> 00:00:56.292 I can take photos of women when I'm in this state. 00:00:57.012 --> 00:01:00.942 Sitting in a cafe and it will be particularly attractive. 00:01:01.572 --> 00:01:02.472 Photo of them. 00:01:02.670 --> 00:01:06.750 And quite often they get some kind of high out of it too. 00:01:06.957 --> 00:01:09.627 But as Joseph Campbell says pretty soon. 00:01:09.736 --> 00:01:11.086 You say through the projection? 00:01:11.226 --> 00:01:12.336 And then what happens? 00:01:12.508 --> 00:01:16.140 Well, in my case, What happens is I tend to end the relationship. 00:01:16.262 --> 00:01:19.040 And often women are left, hurt. 00:01:19.219 --> 00:01:20.209 And confused. 00:01:20.435 --> 00:01:21.545 About what went wrong. 00:01:21.745 --> 00:01:23.125 And it reminds me. 00:01:23.367 --> 00:01:24.867 Well, the Jody Mitchell quote. 00:01:25.128 --> 00:01:26.148 About monogamy. 00:01:26.365 --> 00:01:27.025 And how. 00:01:27.211 --> 00:01:29.791 If all you ever have is short-term relationships. 00:01:30.481 --> 00:01:31.651 And casual dating. 00:01:31.722 --> 00:01:35.502 Then basically just dating yourself over and over again. 00:01:35.598 --> 00:01:37.428 And telling the same stories. 00:01:37.499 --> 00:01:40.109 And revealing the same small parts of yourself. 00:01:40.298 --> 00:01:41.648 And having the same fun. 00:01:41.891 --> 00:01:44.201 Whereas to really go deep with someone. 00:01:44.325 --> 00:01:45.045 And commit. 00:01:45.142 --> 00:01:48.682 And really get into the complexities of getting to know someone. 00:01:48.870 --> 00:01:51.060 Is to have a much deeper experience. 00:01:51.184 --> 00:01:52.924 But I think that moves you. 00:01:53.105 --> 00:01:54.965 Past romantic love. 00:01:55.081 --> 00:01:56.131 And chemistry. 00:01:56.228 --> 00:01:57.758 And all the hedonism. 00:01:57.876 --> 00:02:01.056 That's inherent in all those chemicals floating around. 00:02:01.207 --> 00:02:05.467 I think that moves you to something that maybe feels a lot more ordinary. 00:02:05.467 --> 00:02:06.337 A lot of the time. 00:02:06.565 --> 00:02:07.615 That's slow. 00:02:07.722 --> 00:02:11.202 Layering process of really getting to know one person. 00:02:11.338 --> 00:02:14.098 And sitting here now I can see that. 00:02:14.138 --> 00:02:15.683 That is an ideal for me. 00:02:15.812 --> 00:02:18.902 The problem I have is whenever I made a new person. 00:02:19.124 --> 00:02:20.924 I tend to project my animal. 00:02:21.099 --> 00:02:21.729 Onto them. 00:02:21.849 --> 00:02:25.183 And have their same relation shit over and over again. 00:02:25.270 --> 00:02:26.860 Trying to get out of that trap. 00:02:27.020 --> 00:02:28.280 And move on to. 00:02:28.452 --> 00:02:29.622 Hopefully something. 00:02:29.826 --> 00:02:30.726 More profound.