WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.800 --> 00:00:03.680 You're listening to The Bible Guys, a podcast where a 2 00:00:03.720 --> 00:00:06.440 couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun, in 3 00:00:06.559 --> 00:00:13.400 practical ways. Hey, everybody, welcome to The Bible Guys. My 4 00:00:13.480 --> 00:00:16.239 name is Chris and I'm Jeff, and we are the 5 00:00:16.280 --> 00:00:17.079 Bible Guys. 6 00:00:17.280 --> 00:00:17.519 Man. 7 00:00:18.000 --> 00:00:21.440 Hey, by the what an exciting day we have? How 8 00:00:21.440 --> 00:00:22.199 many episodes? 9 00:00:22.399 --> 00:00:27.800 Is it a gajillion? Officially? Officially? I think it's a 10 00:00:27.800 --> 00:00:30.519 gajillions Bible Guys episode. Yeah, let's let's see. 11 00:00:30.519 --> 00:00:31.600 Five hundred, six hundred. 12 00:00:32.119 --> 00:00:35.679 I'll pull it up on the podcast thing Andyway, guys all, 13 00:00:35.679 --> 00:00:37.799 you have to just go to your go to your podcast, 14 00:00:37.920 --> 00:00:42.640 your favorite podcast platform, and look up The Bible Guys, Okay, 15 00:00:42.840 --> 00:00:46.439 and then it'll tell you how many episodes we have here. Okay, 16 00:00:46.600 --> 00:00:47.560 what episode is this? 17 00:00:47.640 --> 00:00:50.439 Hey, I was just gonna mention that'd eighty eight seven eight. Wow, 18 00:00:50.560 --> 00:00:52.600 that's more than I thought, I know, So I was 19 00:00:52.640 --> 00:00:57.520 just gonna mention. So COVID hit in twenty twenty. Twenty 20 00:00:57.600 --> 00:01:02.600 twenty one was still a sort of a shaky time, 21 00:01:02.880 --> 00:01:04.920 and during that time we were going to do small groups. 22 00:01:05.439 --> 00:01:10.159 But then what ended up happening was the scare came 23 00:01:10.159 --> 00:01:13.120 out with you know, at the end of twenty one member. 24 00:01:13.319 --> 00:01:17.079 Yeah when the Omicron Yeah yeah, the Omicron thing actually 25 00:01:17.120 --> 00:01:18.640 came out and all of a sudden it just hit 26 00:01:18.680 --> 00:01:20.959 and everybody was like, yes, we're not doing small groups. 27 00:01:20.959 --> 00:01:22.400 And then we were like, oh no, And so in 28 00:01:22.519 --> 00:01:25.519 January of twenty two, we were like, what are we 29 00:01:25.560 --> 00:01:27.159 going to do, Like we were going to do small groups, 30 00:01:27.159 --> 00:01:29.319 Now nobody wants to go back in homes and so 31 00:01:29.400 --> 00:01:31.359 what ended up happening was we said, well, let's just 32 00:01:31.400 --> 00:01:34.560 do something called HC Daily and we'll just do like 33 00:01:34.640 --> 00:01:37.400 a month of podcasts and we'll just help. 34 00:01:37.480 --> 00:01:39.040 It was supposed to be like eight weeks, wasn't it, 35 00:01:39.079 --> 00:01:41.719 because it was the Life of Peter Yeah yeah, yeah, 36 00:01:41.799 --> 00:01:42.959 yeah yeah, the greatness in you? 37 00:01:43.040 --> 00:01:47.560 Yeah, great message, greatenst in you. And then and then 38 00:01:47.599 --> 00:01:49.400 we were like, hey, people sort of like it, let's 39 00:01:49.400 --> 00:01:51.439 just keep going. We did it for a month, and 40 00:01:51.439 --> 00:01:52.840 then we kept on doing it. We did like one 41 00:01:52.920 --> 00:01:55.239 hundred and fifty episodes or something like that, which is 42 00:01:55.280 --> 00:01:57.480 a very long time. It's like, you know what, five 43 00:01:57.519 --> 00:02:00.560 months or something like that, and then or more than 44 00:02:00.560 --> 00:02:05.280 that actually because we don't do weekends. And then after 45 00:02:05.319 --> 00:02:08.039 that we decided that, hey, we're just gonna keep going, 46 00:02:08.080 --> 00:02:10.400 and then we rebranded it from HG Daily to The 47 00:02:10.400 --> 00:02:14.400 Bible Guys, and now we're three years later, that's right, 48 00:02:14.439 --> 00:02:16.639 and we're we're still doing it anyway. So that's the 49 00:02:16.680 --> 00:02:18.919 history of why we did it, and the reason why 50 00:02:18.919 --> 00:02:22.680 we kept on doing it is because people really keep listening, 51 00:02:22.840 --> 00:02:24.000 keep listening, and they liked it. 52 00:02:24.120 --> 00:02:25.919 We're afraid of the riots that will break out in 53 00:02:25.919 --> 00:02:26.800 the streets if we quit. 54 00:02:26.919 --> 00:02:30.319 And we have about what fifteen thousand unique listeners a month? 55 00:02:30.360 --> 00:02:37.159 We got gajillions, Yeah, let me see gajillions just on YouTube. Yep, 56 00:02:38.479 --> 00:02:46.159 let me see on YouTube we have I'm not seeing 57 00:02:46.759 --> 00:02:51.479 fifty thousand views a month something like that. Yeah, and 58 00:02:51.560 --> 00:02:55.159 then we have about about two thirds of that on 59 00:02:55.240 --> 00:02:58.639 all the other platforms, you know, Apple and Spotify and 60 00:02:58.680 --> 00:02:59.479 all those kinds of things. 61 00:02:59.479 --> 00:03:01.240 So that's what that's cool. 62 00:03:01.280 --> 00:03:07.759 Yeah, I forget how many total people, well, unique unique listeners. 63 00:03:07.840 --> 00:03:11.360 Yeah, anyway, it's very very cool, super cool. That's the 64 00:03:11.400 --> 00:03:12.360 history of the Bible Guys. 65 00:03:12.400 --> 00:03:15.479 So there it is. We have eighteen thousand monthly attendance 66 00:03:15.599 --> 00:03:19.840 audience on YouTube. Then it's about half of that, so 67 00:03:19.919 --> 00:03:22.039 it's twenty five thirty thousand listeners a month. 68 00:03:22.280 --> 00:03:25.400 Okay, ed listener. Yeah, okay, so we'll just we'll go 69 00:03:25.479 --> 00:03:27.479 thirty we'll run there, you go evangelistically. 70 00:03:27.599 --> 00:03:28.639 Yes, that seems reasonable. 71 00:03:28.759 --> 00:03:29.960 Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, that's fun. 72 00:03:30.039 --> 00:03:31.000 So it's a privilege. 73 00:03:31.080 --> 00:03:31.599 It is that. 74 00:03:31.840 --> 00:03:35.080 It is a privilege to spend time with people every day. 75 00:03:35.400 --> 00:03:37.000 And I always I always sort of say this from 76 00:03:37.039 --> 00:03:40.120 the stage, but so we're like, hey, we get thirty 77 00:03:40.159 --> 00:03:44.800 thousand people a month and Dave Wilson has four million 78 00:03:44.919 --> 00:03:45.280 a week? 79 00:03:45.960 --> 00:03:46.800 Is it four million? 80 00:03:47.000 --> 00:03:47.360 Yes? 81 00:03:47.400 --> 00:03:49.120 I thought it was. Yeah, I thought he was a 82 00:03:49.120 --> 00:03:50.840 million a week. At four million a month, Oh, maybe 83 00:03:50.879 --> 00:03:52.120 that's what it is that it is, but yeah, I 84 00:03:52.240 --> 00:03:55.039 still anyways, it doesn't matter. It's substantially more than us. 85 00:03:55.319 --> 00:03:57.360 Well, I mean, think about how much more a million 86 00:03:57.400 --> 00:03:59.199 is because he's a big dog from thirty thousand. 87 00:03:59.240 --> 00:04:01.599 Yeah, yeah, Dave. Will's great Dave. If you don't know Dave, 88 00:04:01.759 --> 00:04:07.000 David and Wilson lead Family Life the Radio today, Family 89 00:04:07.039 --> 00:04:10.719 Life Today the radio program, and then they have like 90 00:04:11.039 --> 00:04:14.560 millions of listeners. And then Dave and are also on 91 00:04:14.879 --> 00:04:16.959 our staff, are heir to shure it's helping us build 92 00:04:17.000 --> 00:04:19.720 out a great marriage and family ministry thing. And Dave's 93 00:04:19.720 --> 00:04:21.439 on our teaching team. So yeah, pretty very cool. 94 00:04:21.720 --> 00:04:23.720 So anyway, all that to say, you can go back 95 00:04:23.759 --> 00:04:26.720 and watch any archive of a lot of different series 96 00:04:26.720 --> 00:04:28.240 that we've done, and we're in the middle of a 97 00:04:28.279 --> 00:04:31.560 series called Stump the Pastor and a lot of these 98 00:04:31.680 --> 00:04:34.600 questions have been written in just this past week. 99 00:04:34.879 --> 00:04:37.759 Really good questions, yes, really good questions. 100 00:04:37.800 --> 00:04:42.279 Great questions. So this question starts with Logan c Hi logan, 101 00:04:42.360 --> 00:04:46.399 and Logan says, why do we still why do we 102 00:04:46.519 --> 00:04:51.040 still not follow the traditional holidays of the Old Testament? 103 00:04:51.879 --> 00:04:55.279 Lent I know is still prevalent, although the name itself, 104 00:04:56.000 --> 00:04:59.519 I'm uncertain if that's a modern term for it. However, 105 00:05:00.040 --> 00:05:03.680 others have been left behind. Uh Is it a matter 106 00:05:03.959 --> 00:05:07.959 of their connections to the Old Testament rituals, acts or 107 00:05:07.959 --> 00:05:10.800 something different? It's great, it's a great question. 108 00:05:10.839 --> 00:05:11.360 Good question. 109 00:05:11.600 --> 00:05:13.680 So, in other words, what you're saying is there are 110 00:05:13.879 --> 00:05:18.120 observations that were laid out in the Old Testament by 111 00:05:18.199 --> 00:05:21.800 God and and uh and and and they were commanded 112 00:05:21.839 --> 00:05:26.160 to observe different things, right, right, right? What was that? 113 00:05:26.240 --> 00:05:27.639 What was that hut that people make? 114 00:05:28.040 --> 00:05:31.480 Oh, come on, tabernacle? No, no, thestacles. 115 00:05:31.720 --> 00:05:34.000 No, No, I'm not referring to that. I'm referring to 116 00:05:35.639 --> 00:05:37.839 people still make it. They there's a little hot they 117 00:05:37.879 --> 00:05:41.160 put the things up, and it's a it's a it's 118 00:05:41.160 --> 00:05:44.040 a it's like a it's like a structure. It's referred 119 00:05:44.040 --> 00:05:46.959 to something. It's in a Jewish costure. 120 00:05:46.959 --> 00:05:49.000 They do it every year, called the Feast of Tabernacles, 121 00:05:49.240 --> 00:05:49.959 is it? Yes? 122 00:05:51.279 --> 00:05:55.079 Okay, but isn't there a name for the hut? Yeah? Okay, 123 00:05:55.279 --> 00:05:57.240 I'm I'm gonna look at I'm looking ahead. 124 00:05:57.279 --> 00:06:00.519 Anyways, So I think this is a really great question. 125 00:06:00.600 --> 00:06:02.680 This means that that Logan's been kind of paying attention 126 00:06:02.680 --> 00:06:05.000 to the Bible a little bit. God gave all these instructions. 127 00:06:05.079 --> 00:06:08.240 He said, Hey, you're supposed to celebrate Passover. You're supposed 128 00:06:08.240 --> 00:06:10.639 to celebrate the feast of unleaven bread. You're supposed to 129 00:06:10.680 --> 00:06:13.319 celebrate the feast of first Fruits. You're supposed to celebrate 130 00:06:13.360 --> 00:06:15.759 the Feast of Pentecosts. Right, there's all these feasts, these 131 00:06:15.800 --> 00:06:20.240 these religious holidays that the Jews were supposed to to celebrate. 132 00:06:20.879 --> 00:06:23.480 And so his question is why don't we celebrate that anymore? Now, 133 00:06:23.680 --> 00:06:26.160 let's go back. First of all, because he mentions Lent specifically, 134 00:06:27.240 --> 00:06:30.920 So Lent is not a Bible holiday. 135 00:06:31.000 --> 00:06:34.000 It's called a suka Suka. It's called a suka okay. 136 00:06:34.040 --> 00:06:36.120 It's a temporary hut or booths that Jewish people build 137 00:06:36.160 --> 00:06:39.839 during the festival of Suka, known as the Feast of Tabernacles. 138 00:06:39.839 --> 00:06:40.439 Spam. 139 00:06:40.560 --> 00:06:42.759 So you so you were right on the on the 140 00:06:42.839 --> 00:06:43.879 and I just wasn't occasion. 141 00:06:43.959 --> 00:06:45.319 I wasn't using the Hebrew words. 142 00:06:45.399 --> 00:06:48.439 Yeah, I knew it was called something. Anyway, go ahead, 143 00:06:48.560 --> 00:06:48.920 keep going. 144 00:06:49.959 --> 00:06:56.600 So Lent was not a Bible instructed holiday or event, right, 145 00:06:57.079 --> 00:07:02.680 So Lent is a fast that came up. We just 146 00:07:02.720 --> 00:07:04.519 talked about this this passive. 147 00:07:04.240 --> 00:07:05.360 Ironically, like three days ago. 148 00:07:05.399 --> 00:07:11.360 Yeah. So the idea of fasting giving up something typically food, 149 00:07:12.319 --> 00:07:15.920 is a Biblical idea, and that would be to show 150 00:07:15.920 --> 00:07:18.040 God that you were serious. And it's also to hold 151 00:07:18.040 --> 00:07:20.879 back your your flesh so you can dial into the 152 00:07:20.920 --> 00:07:23.759 spirit more all those kinds. There's lots of reasons for it. 153 00:07:23.800 --> 00:07:28.680 The idea of fasting between for the forty days leading 154 00:07:28.800 --> 00:07:34.680 up to Easter comes from forty days. Jesus faster for 155 00:07:34.680 --> 00:07:38.199 forty days, Moses fast for forty days, Elijah past forty days. 156 00:07:38.199 --> 00:07:42.920 So this was a thing and then they would have 157 00:07:43.639 --> 00:07:49.240 this fast leading towards Easter. To prepare themselves to be 158 00:07:49.439 --> 00:07:51.920 ready to celebrate the death, burrel and resurrection of Christ. 159 00:07:52.040 --> 00:07:54.560 And also, quite honestly, through medieval times, it was so 160 00:07:54.600 --> 00:07:57.439 that I would suffer to experience the suffering of Jesus, 161 00:07:57.600 --> 00:07:59.160 thinking that there's a little bit of paying for your 162 00:07:59.160 --> 00:08:02.160 own sins through the suffer. Yeah, go ahead, yeah, I was. 163 00:08:02.079 --> 00:08:05.199 Just gonna say. And then they eventually somewhere around the 164 00:08:05.240 --> 00:08:12.560 thirteenth century implemented ash Wednesday, which was a preparation of suffering, 165 00:08:12.600 --> 00:08:14.680 which is why they put ashes on their head. And 166 00:08:14.759 --> 00:08:18.240 it came from job ashes to ashes, right, I came 167 00:08:18.240 --> 00:08:20.680 out of my mother's womb, come back, and it's a 168 00:08:20.680 --> 00:08:24.839 sign of lamenting, just preparing for the crucifixion of Jesus. 169 00:08:25.279 --> 00:08:29.959 And so that's not a biblical thing. It's just a 170 00:08:30.000 --> 00:08:32.159 thing that the Church began to make a thing. 171 00:08:32.240 --> 00:08:32.799 The Catholic turn. 172 00:08:32.840 --> 00:08:35.720 Now we do know even before the Catholic Church existed 173 00:08:35.720 --> 00:08:38.919 in the three hundreds, some Christians of the de Decay 174 00:08:39.080 --> 00:08:42.399 explains it, even in the first century, some Christians were 175 00:08:42.480 --> 00:08:45.399 doing fasts like this. And as a matter of fact, 176 00:08:45.480 --> 00:08:49.159 you know, Christianity was begun when Latin was a big thing. 177 00:08:49.240 --> 00:08:55.759 Latin comes just after Jesus and Carnival is the big 178 00:08:55.799 --> 00:09:00.240 celebration before the feast or before the fast. Right, Garne 179 00:09:00.759 --> 00:09:05.159 in Latin means meat like carne asada whatever. Yeah, and 180 00:09:05.240 --> 00:09:09.080 valet means no no more okay, so no more meat. 181 00:09:09.200 --> 00:09:11.480 That's why we're having a big party today. We're gonna 182 00:09:11.480 --> 00:09:13.759 go buck wild today because there's no more meat for 183 00:09:13.799 --> 00:09:15.279 the next forty days. That's where it came from. 184 00:09:15.320 --> 00:09:15.600 Gosch. 185 00:09:15.679 --> 00:09:18.159 Now it's turned into crazy stuff, but you know, that's 186 00:09:18.159 --> 00:09:20.440 where it came from. And so those are just they're 187 00:09:20.480 --> 00:09:26.039 just tradition. They're not Bible, right, but passover, feast of 188 00:09:26.080 --> 00:09:28.799 on leaving bread, feast of first fruits, feast of Pentecost, 189 00:09:28.840 --> 00:09:30.639 feasts of the tabernacles. 190 00:09:29.919 --> 00:09:31.600 Which was probably let me just wrap up the let 191 00:09:31.679 --> 00:09:34.159 me button up the Lent thing by saying, so many 192 00:09:34.200 --> 00:09:38.320 people today, like myself included, grew up, you know, fasting 193 00:09:38.360 --> 00:09:41.279 from certain things like oh, fast from chocolate, right, raw, 194 00:09:41.320 --> 00:09:42.320 fast from dessert. 195 00:09:42.519 --> 00:09:45.440 No meat, that's why you only eat fish, eat. 196 00:09:45.360 --> 00:09:48.679 Yeah, I did you ever heard Jim Gaffigan talk about that? 197 00:09:48.720 --> 00:09:51.159 And he goes, he goes no meat on Fridays unless 198 00:09:51.200 --> 00:09:58.360 you forget. But anyway, but the point is is that 199 00:09:58.360 --> 00:10:01.679 that that's not that's not the bod definition of fasting, right. 200 00:10:02.039 --> 00:10:04.799 The only, the only definition of fasting in the Bible 201 00:10:05.200 --> 00:10:07.960 is to go without food, right, although I don't think 202 00:10:08.080 --> 00:10:09.879 that going. You know, if you if you fast from 203 00:10:10.080 --> 00:10:14.039 something as a demonstration of sacrifice, it is a is 204 00:10:14.200 --> 00:10:17.080 always a good thing, right, because it reminds us it's 205 00:10:17.120 --> 00:10:20.320 the same heart, which is to pray, to go to 206 00:10:20.360 --> 00:10:22.639 God when you when you're tempted, when you're hungry, when 207 00:10:22.639 --> 00:10:24.039 you're whatever. It is. Right. 208 00:10:24.240 --> 00:10:27.799 The core of Logan's question really is why don't we 209 00:10:28.120 --> 00:10:29.240 follow the Old Testament? 210 00:10:29.279 --> 00:10:30.440 That we were about to get it right? 211 00:10:30.519 --> 00:10:32.360 So we dealt with lent for a little while. That's 212 00:10:33.679 --> 00:10:35.639 the core is why don't deal with the Old Testament? Ones? 213 00:10:35.639 --> 00:10:38.679 And the simple answer is this, Logan, all of the 214 00:10:38.720 --> 00:10:42.120 festivals that God commanded as holy days to be set apart, 215 00:10:42.360 --> 00:10:46.919 we're all pointing to Jesus. They were all shadows pointing 216 00:10:46.960 --> 00:10:51.200 to Jesus in some way. And for instance, the passover 217 00:10:51.519 --> 00:10:53.919 pointed to Jesus. Death is the lamb of God. We 218 00:10:54.039 --> 00:10:56.480 know that's true. One quent, chapter five seven tells us 219 00:10:56.519 --> 00:11:01.679 that the feast above unleavened bread high lighted his sinless 220 00:11:01.679 --> 00:11:04.399 body that was going to be sacrificed for us. It's 221 00:11:04.440 --> 00:11:07.279 what is in our communion. This is my body which 222 00:11:07.360 --> 00:11:12.600 is given for you. Right. The feast of first Fruits 223 00:11:12.720 --> 00:11:15.840 represents his resurrection. We know this because Paul tells us 224 00:11:15.840 --> 00:11:19.720 in First Corinthians chapter fifteen, verse twenty, that Jesus is 225 00:11:19.799 --> 00:11:23.279 the first fruits of God. The feast of pentecosts is 226 00:11:23.960 --> 00:11:27.039 was the celebration of the idea that the spirit of 227 00:11:27.080 --> 00:11:29.519 God was going to come. This happens in Acts chapter 228 00:11:29.519 --> 00:11:34.759 two on Pentecost Sunday, right, And so so all the 229 00:11:34.799 --> 00:11:39.320 feasts pointed to Jesus. And so in Colossus chapter three, 230 00:11:39.320 --> 00:11:42.000 I've pulled clastions chapter two, I pulled this up verse sixteen. 231 00:11:42.000 --> 00:11:44.879 It's says he's trying to explain to them, don't feel 232 00:11:44.919 --> 00:11:48.200 bad about what you're choosing to eat or not eat whenever. 233 00:11:48.600 --> 00:11:51.919 Don't feel bad about the holy days. Here's what he says. 234 00:11:51.919 --> 00:11:53.840 So don't let anyone condemn you for what you eat 235 00:11:53.960 --> 00:11:57.639 or drink, or for not celebrating certain holy days. For 236 00:11:57.720 --> 00:12:01.679 these rules are only shadows of the reality yet to come, 237 00:12:02.159 --> 00:12:07.080 and Christ himself is that reality. So when we say 238 00:12:07.159 --> 00:12:09.440 that we don't have to celebrate the feast because Jesus 239 00:12:09.480 --> 00:12:12.559 fulfilled all the feasts. That's not just us connecting dots. 240 00:12:12.639 --> 00:12:16.679 That's literally what Paul says in the Bible. And so 241 00:12:17.039 --> 00:12:21.559 in what is it? Is it the Book of Romans 242 00:12:22.039 --> 00:12:24.000 where I had it written out here in the Book 243 00:12:24.000 --> 00:12:26.720 of Romans, where the Bible says that Jesus is the 244 00:12:26.759 --> 00:12:31.320 fulfillment of the law. In Matthew, Jesus said I didn't 245 00:12:31.320 --> 00:12:34.639 come to certainly end of the law. He says, I 246 00:12:34.679 --> 00:12:37.879 can to fulfill the law. And then then Romans says, 247 00:12:38.000 --> 00:12:46.200 Jesus fulfills the law of God. And so now it's 248 00:12:46.240 --> 00:12:49.320 called the New Covenant. That was the old Covenant. The 249 00:12:49.320 --> 00:12:53.759 old Covenant was all of these traditions pointing to Jesus. Now, 250 00:12:53.799 --> 00:12:57.440 because Jesus is here, you and I, because of the Cross, 251 00:12:57.440 --> 00:13:00.000 because of the resurrection, we live under what the Bible 252 00:13:00.200 --> 00:13:03.519 calls the new covenant. Covenant just means contract right, the 253 00:13:03.679 --> 00:13:08.639 new Covenant. And so in Hebrews chapter thirteen, the author 254 00:13:08.679 --> 00:13:12.799 of Hebrews is connecting the old beliefs of the Hebrews 255 00:13:13.120 --> 00:13:18.159 to the new resolved solutions that Jesus brings. So he's 256 00:13:18.200 --> 00:13:21.000 writing it from a theological standpoint. And the author says 257 00:13:21.159 --> 00:13:24.919 in Hebrews eight thirteen, when God speaks of a new covenant, 258 00:13:25.000 --> 00:13:28.799 it means he has made the first one obsolete. 259 00:13:29.080 --> 00:13:31.200 Right by the way, it's Romans ten to four. 260 00:13:31.399 --> 00:13:31.919 Oh, there you go. 261 00:13:32.039 --> 00:13:34.919 Christ is the culmination of the law, so that there 262 00:13:34.960 --> 00:13:37.159 may be righteousness for everyone who believes right. 263 00:13:37.559 --> 00:13:39.639 And so in Romans it tells us that the law 264 00:13:39.720 --> 00:13:41.600 was just to show us that we couldn't perfectly keep 265 00:13:41.639 --> 00:13:45.000 it right right. It was a teacher for us. And 266 00:13:45.360 --> 00:13:49.879 he's talking specifically about the religious laws. I think we should. 267 00:13:49.960 --> 00:13:52.440 This is a great point opportunity to pivot over to 268 00:13:52.480 --> 00:13:56.399 his second question. Jogan has another question because now we're 269 00:13:56.399 --> 00:13:59.679 shifting into the laws. Jesus fulfilled all the feasts, and 270 00:13:59.720 --> 00:14:02.840 then he says, the new contract, the new covenant means 271 00:14:02.879 --> 00:14:05.279 he suspended the old covenant. That's what it means. But 272 00:14:05.279 --> 00:14:06.679 now we got to get into the laws because there's 273 00:14:06.679 --> 00:14:08.080 three different kinds of laws. Yep. 274 00:14:08.159 --> 00:14:11.440 And then he says his second question is he said, 275 00:14:11.679 --> 00:14:15.320 why have traditional Jews that don't recognize Jesus' coming for 276 00:14:15.360 --> 00:14:21.000 its legitimacy discontinued the practice of ritual sacrifice. That is 277 00:14:21.080 --> 00:14:22.120 his second question. 278 00:14:22.279 --> 00:14:28.240 Yeah, this is a great question Logan one. The ritual 279 00:14:28.240 --> 00:14:32.200 sacrifice required, the arc of the covenant required, the altar required, 280 00:14:32.240 --> 00:14:35.440 the temple. But the last temple was destroyed in seventy 281 00:14:35.440 --> 00:14:39.240 eight by the Romans, right just as Jesus. Jesus said prophesied, 282 00:14:39.279 --> 00:14:42.000 it happened, it happened, so they wiped it out. So 283 00:14:42.039 --> 00:14:46.559 there has been no temple for those sacrifices. They dream 284 00:14:46.639 --> 00:14:49.480 of it, they desire it. On the Temple Mountain Jerusalem. 285 00:14:49.480 --> 00:14:52.080 You've been to the Temple mount under Jerusalem. The Western 286 00:14:52.080 --> 00:14:54.399 Wall is still there. Sometimes they call it the whaling 287 00:14:54.440 --> 00:14:55.799 Wall because they'll go. 288 00:14:56.120 --> 00:14:57.159 The Dome of the Rock. 289 00:14:57.200 --> 00:15:00.960 They place prairie quests in there, into the cracks and 290 00:15:01.000 --> 00:15:03.879 they weep over the place. Because this is the last 291 00:15:03.960 --> 00:15:05.320 vestige of where the temple was. 292 00:15:05.639 --> 00:15:07.600 It would be the most they would view that as 293 00:15:07.639 --> 00:15:09.879 the most sacred spot in Judaism. 294 00:15:10.960 --> 00:15:13.320 So on top of that mount, because that's just the 295 00:15:13.360 --> 00:15:16.720 foundation to the Temple mount on top there's the Alaksa 296 00:15:16.840 --> 00:15:19.240 Mosque and the Dome of the Rock sit there that 297 00:15:19.360 --> 00:15:21.399 if you ever see a picture of Jerusalem, that's that 298 00:15:21.519 --> 00:15:25.759 gold domed thing, and that's a Muslim holy place. And 299 00:15:25.879 --> 00:15:28.480 so there is no temple there because the dome of 300 00:15:28.519 --> 00:15:29.639 the Rock sits where the temple was. 301 00:15:29.799 --> 00:15:32.799 Mohammed was on a donkey. Did you know this. Yes, 302 00:15:32.840 --> 00:15:34.519 he's on a donkey and he jumps on a rock 303 00:15:34.559 --> 00:15:36.039 and he kind of pulled straight up into. 304 00:15:35.879 --> 00:15:37.720 Heaven right and leaves his footprint there. 305 00:15:37.799 --> 00:15:38.360 That's the belief. 306 00:15:38.440 --> 00:15:42.159 Yeah, and they also believe that Abraham had some impact there. 307 00:15:42.200 --> 00:15:45.000 So yeah, it's like the third holiest place in Islam. 308 00:15:45.120 --> 00:15:48.639 And so you have this problem between the Jews who 309 00:15:48.679 --> 00:15:51.080 want to build their temple again and the Muslims that 310 00:15:51.120 --> 00:15:54.440 are keeping their temple or their their mosque in their 311 00:15:54.519 --> 00:15:58.519 their holy place there. So so there is no there's 312 00:15:58.559 --> 00:16:01.759 no sacrifices anymore because there is no temple to sacrifice in, 313 00:16:01.799 --> 00:16:04.799 there's no arc of the Covenant, there's no there's no altar. 314 00:16:05.320 --> 00:16:08.480 And so instead they went to Rabbinic Judaism, which is 315 00:16:08.519 --> 00:16:10.960 similar to the kind of Judaism that that Daniel would 316 00:16:10.960 --> 00:16:14.080 have worshiped in because the first temple, Salomis Temple, had 317 00:16:14.120 --> 00:16:17.559 been destroyed, and so when he's in Babylon, they there's 318 00:16:17.639 --> 00:16:24.399 this sacrifice of the heart, sacrifice of the spirit and 319 00:16:24.519 --> 00:16:28.759 building around prayer and a heart felt sacrifice towards God 320 00:16:29.200 --> 00:16:32.159 is what they did. And then now there's no temple again, 321 00:16:32.200 --> 00:16:36.039 and that's what they're doing, is this rabbinic thing there. 322 00:16:37.240 --> 00:16:40.919 But beyond that, you know, there is this question about, well, 323 00:16:40.919 --> 00:16:43.919 what about the laws? Then? If God made laws about 324 00:16:45.240 --> 00:16:48.279 about feasts and holy days and we don't celebrate those 325 00:16:48.320 --> 00:16:51.120 anymore because God suspended those, and then God made laws 326 00:16:51.120 --> 00:16:53.840 about sacrifice and we don't do those anymore because God 327 00:16:53.879 --> 00:16:59.440 suspended those, then what laws are we supposed to keep? 328 00:16:59.440 --> 00:17:00.919 What laws are are we supposed to just throw off 329 00:17:00.919 --> 00:17:02.200 all the law? No more law? 330 00:17:02.679 --> 00:17:02.919 Right? 331 00:17:03.159 --> 00:17:04.440 Right? So what do you have to say about that? 332 00:17:04.920 --> 00:17:07.359 Well, I would just say that Jesus came to fulfill 333 00:17:07.519 --> 00:17:10.359 all the loss. So, just like you said, every single 334 00:17:10.440 --> 00:17:13.759 ritual for instance, even like the Passover. So you and 335 00:17:13.799 --> 00:17:18.079 I we we have a Passover feast that is presented 336 00:17:18.119 --> 00:17:22.039 to us by our elders of our church, right and. 337 00:17:21.480 --> 00:17:24.759 And by our residents, any anybody that's studying for ministry 338 00:17:24.920 --> 00:17:27.079 with us. They helped put it together, which is kind 339 00:17:27.079 --> 00:17:27.319 of neat. 340 00:17:27.359 --> 00:17:29.799 We've done that for the last several years, and and 341 00:17:29.880 --> 00:17:32.400 so and and by the way, a Passover traditional Passover 342 00:17:32.480 --> 00:17:35.960 feast is very very symbolic in and of itself. It's 343 00:17:36.000 --> 00:17:39.160 not necessarily a great meal, right right, but it's it's 344 00:17:39.240 --> 00:17:42.480 but it's symbolic. So you're chewing on bitters and and uh, 345 00:17:42.519 --> 00:17:46.440 crackers and crackers and different things that necessarily you wouldn't say, Wow, 346 00:17:46.440 --> 00:17:47.039 this is great. 347 00:17:47.519 --> 00:17:48.799 But it was not crackers. 348 00:17:48.839 --> 00:17:54.480 It's matsa matza mazza bread. But you're basically doing everything 349 00:17:54.519 --> 00:17:58.359 symbolically for a reason, as instructed by God, very specifically, 350 00:17:58.799 --> 00:18:02.480 because every single peace again, just like you said earlier, 351 00:18:03.240 --> 00:18:08.000 was looking forward to the Messiah, the solution of sin. Well. 352 00:18:08.400 --> 00:18:16.559 To be honest, ever, every time, uh not every time, 353 00:18:16.720 --> 00:18:19.240 I just lost my train of thought. Jesus was the 354 00:18:19.279 --> 00:18:25.359 fulfillment of the reason why God put into motion the 355 00:18:25.440 --> 00:18:27.240 observance of the passover. 356 00:18:27.759 --> 00:18:30.759 Right, and it's it's okay to observe the passover. There's 357 00:18:30.799 --> 00:18:31.279 nothing wrong with that. 358 00:18:31.359 --> 00:18:33.920 There's nothing wrong with it. Not which is which as 359 00:18:33.960 --> 00:18:35.920 we did. Yeah, it's not, it's not it's not required 360 00:18:36.480 --> 00:18:39.319 because Jesus said, hey, I'm the fulfillment of this. This 361 00:18:39.400 --> 00:18:41.519 is my body which is broken for you. This is 362 00:18:41.519 --> 00:18:45.359 why you've been doing this for thousands of years since Moses. Right, 363 00:18:45.440 --> 00:18:47.440 every time you've poured out the cup and you've done 364 00:18:47.480 --> 00:18:50.559 it once a year. You know, this is the fulfillment 365 00:18:50.640 --> 00:18:53.960 of of This is my blood being poured out. You 366 00:18:53.960 --> 00:18:56.240 know that they they thought that they that it was 367 00:18:56.319 --> 00:19:01.000 just you know, some sort of a tree you of 368 00:19:01.119 --> 00:19:03.880 Moses and the Angel of Death passing over. But it's 369 00:19:03.920 --> 00:19:07.039 really everything's pointing to Jesus. Right, So the so the 370 00:19:07.079 --> 00:19:09.799 blood on the posts, everything, so anyway, not just the 371 00:19:09.839 --> 00:19:15.279 Passover feast, but every single holiday is is you know, 372 00:19:15.519 --> 00:19:16.640 all been fulfilled? 373 00:19:16.799 --> 00:19:17.000 Yeah? 374 00:19:17.119 --> 00:19:17.720 Through Christ? 375 00:19:17.720 --> 00:19:20.440 So so then through Christ then he does he said 376 00:19:20.440 --> 00:19:22.160 he didn't come to suspend the law. He came to 377 00:19:22.200 --> 00:19:24.960 fulfill the law. But let's talk about that. Then if 378 00:19:24.960 --> 00:19:28.319 we're not doing those law things anymore, then none of 379 00:19:28.359 --> 00:19:29.519 the law applies. 380 00:19:31.119 --> 00:19:33.079 None of the law applies, is in like the Old 381 00:19:33.079 --> 00:19:33.720 Testament law? 382 00:19:33.759 --> 00:19:34.559 Yeah? 383 00:19:34.640 --> 00:19:38.240 Well, I think that there are different types of laws, right, 384 00:19:38.279 --> 00:19:41.759 And there's there's levitical laws, there's there's there's laws that 385 00:19:41.799 --> 00:19:44.400 were given just to the Jewish people, and then there 386 00:19:44.440 --> 00:19:46.559 are there are certainly laws that are that are that 387 00:19:46.720 --> 00:19:51.640 carry over, like thou shalt not kill that would apply, right. 388 00:19:51.519 --> 00:19:51.960 How do you know? 389 00:19:52.680 --> 00:19:53.160 How do I know? 390 00:19:53.200 --> 00:19:54.480 How do you know which ones apply and which ones 391 00:19:54.519 --> 00:19:55.000 don't apply? 392 00:19:55.440 --> 00:19:57.839 Well? You have the different categories of laws. 393 00:19:57.960 --> 00:20:01.400 Yeah. Yeah, so uh, here's what I would say on that. 394 00:20:02.559 --> 00:20:10.200 There are the civil laws where God is setting up 395 00:20:10.720 --> 00:20:15.119 how the Israelite government was supposed to be run. 396 00:20:15.160 --> 00:20:18.200 It was going to be a theocracy. And so God says, 397 00:20:18.319 --> 00:20:21.279 this is what you do when somebody steals something, and 398 00:20:21.279 --> 00:20:24.319 this is how you make restitution when something when you 399 00:20:24.440 --> 00:20:27.039 ruin something, And this is what you do to murderers 400 00:20:27.039 --> 00:20:29.480 and to rapists and to this is how you make 401 00:20:29.519 --> 00:20:31.640