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Hello and welcome to Pickleball Therapy,
the podcast dedicated to

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your pickleball improvement.

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It's the podcast with you in mind.

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I'm your host of this
weekly podcast, Tony Roig.

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It's a pleasure to be with you in
our new podcast studio environment.

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Again, really excited about
having this environment.

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It charges me up when I come in
here to record this week's podcast.

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I think you're really
going to enjoy the concept.

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We're going to play on the
concept from last week.

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And
I think it's really going to help us frame

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out better our interaction with the sport,
which is always what we're trying to do

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with this mental part of
the sport, in addition to playing better.

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But as I always say, when you feel better
about the sport, you're

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going to play better.
Period.

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End of story.

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A couple of housekeeping notes
before we dive into that.

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If you're in Florida or can make it to
Florida the end of July,

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I have a camp here.

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It's indoor at a beautiful
facility that just opened up.

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The courts are spectacular.

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It's limited to only 16 players.

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So if you want to join me for this two-day
camp, I would recommend acting fairly

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quickly because these spots
generally fill up pretty quick.

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So you can find I got
information at betterpickleball.

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com under Camps for that one.

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And then the
other note is if you can't make it to the

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camp but still want some training, join me
for our strategy clinic coming up on June.

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I believe it's the 25th, but you can
double-check that when

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you go to the website.

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It's our strategy clinic.

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It's a live event.

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I'm going to be discussing the soft game
and dinks in particular, how to hit them

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better, where to hit
them, things like that.

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Some dink concepts that really help you in
Europe at the Nonvolley Zone trying

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to solve that part of the game.

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So check that out.

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And we try and make these very
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And also, obviously, you can
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About as convenient as we can make them.

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Can make them more convenient than
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So check those two things out.

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I have a shout out this week, but instead
of doing the shout out, it's actually

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a question that was asked by Larry.

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So I'll go ahead and do that in the RIF.

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So we're going to get
to that one in a second.

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All right, so let's dive into
the topic for this week, the

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main topic for this week.

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And it has to do with
diminishing ourselves.

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Last week, we talked about the potential
for diminishing our friends whenever we

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behave in a way that that diminishes
what it is that they accomplish, right?

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When basically we react to their
big comeback or their victory in a way

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that focuses on us, it diminishes them.

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But then this weekend, there was the
French Open, and I came

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to pickleball from tennis, so
I retained some allegiance, some

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love for the sport of tennis.

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And so it was following the French Open
this weekend and saw

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the final on Saturday.

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And by now, you may
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I shouldn't say probably because
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to be in your ecosystem.

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But Irina Sebelenka, who was the number
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American player, the number two seed.

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And after the match,
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meaning essentially, Coco Gauff
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Sebelenka made too many mistakes,
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And excuse upon excuse, never
acknowledging any work by Koko Gauff.

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What's interesting, when you think about
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Gauff is number two seed, ignores the fact
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the French Open, which in and of itself is
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pushed Sabalenka in that match to make
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play
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And so what could have been a nice
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positive taken away,
Because as we've talked about on this

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podcast many, many times,
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where you have a winner and you have a
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what we sign up for.

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And so when you contrast Savilenka's
approach with the approach of Yannick

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Sinner, who lost in the men's
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Yannick Sinner was the number one seed.

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Carlos Alcaraz was the number two seed.

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There, just like in the Savilenka match,
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But Center actually had three match points
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couldn't convert any of them.

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So he had three points where he could have
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the French Open, couldn't convert them.

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Carlos Alcaraz came back
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It's already
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they already consider it a
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The level of play was incredible.

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So what Sinder did was
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He basically acknowledged Alvarez's win
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talked about how great it was to be a part
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incredible level of
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Just very positive about
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And so it got me thinking.

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This whole thing got me thinking about
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making it about ourselves
in those kinds of situations, in acting

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like Arena Sabalenka, where it's all about
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as opposed to acting like Yannick Sinner,
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and just recognizing the fact
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You were in a good match the whole time.

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So
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last week, which is about
diminishing your It makes sense.

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If you didn't check that one out,
highly recommend you check it out.

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But the other aspect of it is actually how
you diminish yourself with that conduct.

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And there's two different ways, and
I'm going to talk about both of them.

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One's pretty evident, right?

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One as the direct diminution of yourself.

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So if you think about, again, going back
to Arena Savilenka,

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great athlete, obviously, number one in
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tournament, very
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But her image is taking a hit, right?
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It's taking a hit because of her
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opponent's victory and make it
about herself and her mistakes.

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It's There's a direct diminution
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But beyond that, there's also an indirect
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to spend a few minutes on, which is this.

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Let me switch it to pickleball now.

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So let's go to just a standard example in
these is going to be you're up

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You can't close it out, right?

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Or you miss a shot, something like that.

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And then your opponents win 12,10.
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So you're up 10,8, 10,7,8.

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7, 10, 9, something like that.

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And then you don't get to 11, they tie it
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and so they win 12, 10.

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it's actually common, I guess, is
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players who got stuck at 10,
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It's all about, I missed that shot.
I screwed up.

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Sorry, I messed up.
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Things like that.

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Removing or or diminishing the
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said last week, your friend,
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To battle the tenacity, the
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the game away, and things like that.

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The willingness to continue to battle,
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And the event itself should
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Which I'm going to talk about in a second.

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This is where you get indirect
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Listen, 12: 10 is your game.

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12: 10 games are awesome.

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Think about this.

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Think about if you could make Every game
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pickleball career, 12, 10 or higher.
Wouldn't that be awesome?

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Every game would be 12,
10, 13, 11, 14, 12, 15, 13.

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You name it, right?
But the lowest would be 12, 10.

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I got to tell you something, you're
playing a really awesome

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pickleball contest.

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They're about as evenly
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Everybody's battling.

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And the difference between the winner and
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or an inch there on an outball.
Something silly, something silly, right?

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Something very small.

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Compared that to you winning 11-3, how
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And losing 11-3 as
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I mean, those are entirely different
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So the experience itself of finishing a
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whether you win it or whether you lose it.

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Now, again, going back to the bowl of ice
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you get some sprinkles.
That's great.

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But losing 12: 10 is awesome.

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I mean, that's a great battle by you.

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And so when we think about that, when we
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when we're on the loser side, because
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side, it's always easy.

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When you win 12: 10, then
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But when you lose, that's
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That's when you have the possibility of
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which is make it about yourself and
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your opponents by doing so.

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But beyond that,
You diminish the experience itself.

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You diminish the event,
the game that you just experienced.

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That was 12: 10.

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You've taken it down a notch.

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You've made it less important, less
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making it about a shot you missed rather
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experience that happened.

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You also, by doing that, when you reduce
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again, but this time, indirectly.

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It's not just the direct,
not the best way to act, not the best look

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for you if you're going to make it about
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look good for Savilenka to make it about
the wind or whatever it is that she wanted

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to complain about for her loss, as opposed
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won and beat her.

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It's not just the direct impact
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It's the indirect one, because what you're
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down the entire event.

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And if you take it to its logical
extreme, you'll see what I mean.

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So let me go back to Arena
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The only reason that we even talk about
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is because she's the number one player
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So in a sport that
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Tennis is not...
They do.

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Tennis is a sport that's popular.

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Players and people in
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So knowing who the number one player in
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number one player in tennis has its thing.

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So that gets her a certain position,
a certain cache, if you will.

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Now, if you tear down tennis, let's say
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in a hypothetical, your tennis is
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if you're number one in tennis?
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So what Irina Sibelinka is doing that, she
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doesn't realize, is she's tearing down
the very house upon which her

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value as a player, that part of her life
being number one in tennis, has value

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because of the house that it's built upon.

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And when she tears down the house,
she tears herself down with it.

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And it's the same thing for you in your
local community, in your local facility.

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If you have a really good group of players
that enjoy playing with each other, you

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have really competitive games, and
let's say it's all 12: 10 again.

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Every match is 12: 10.

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Every game is 12: 10.

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If you tear down those games,
you tear down the fabric of what it is

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that you and your friends have built in
your group that you play with

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or the facility open play.

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You bring it down a notch, and
then you bring it down a notch.

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And And every time you do that,
you reduce its importance.

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You reduce yourself as a member of that
fabric, a piece of that fabric.

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So when you think about your behavior,
think about this context of yourself

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inside of a bigger framework.

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I meant to do it last week, and
I'll go ahead and do it this week.

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Credit to one of, I would say, my
strongest mentor in the mental game,

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Coach Peter Scales, who developed
a Compete, Learn, Honor philosophy.

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And his philosophy is compete, learn,
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the tenet of the philosophy.

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And that, I The idea of honoring is the
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is bigger than any one of us.

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not honoring the game.

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honoring ourselves
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that game, as a part of that world.

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And so I think it's a really helpful
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I highly recommend Coach Pete's
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Even if you have read it, he's developed a
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and it has very hands-on
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you can work on to
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your mental interaction with the
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I'll put a link in the show notes.

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And there's a code, I believe.

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I'll put all the instructions in the show
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you can go there and get that.

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And I believe it's a very
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So again, the details will be there.

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I don't remember them off top of my
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Coach Peter's ideas are super helpful in
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where we How we interact with the sport
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through this ripple effect
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So think about when you're behaving
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Think about how it carries,
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opponents, how it impacts the game
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Because what I would suggest to you is
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loss, where you end up losing 10-12,
then if you behave in a way that's about

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you, you diminish your opponents,
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itself, and you, by extension, diminish
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Keep that in mind in terms of how you
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Hopefully, we can move away from the
Savilenka responses and move more towards

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center responses in our responses to
losses, which will happen

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if you're playing at level.

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There's no way to avoid it.

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All right, let me dive into the RIF.

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Let me Let me pull up the question here.

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Larry asked a question on the YouTube, and
I appreciate Larry asking the question.

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And we were talking about last
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Oh, yeah, the diminishing one was actually
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So 2: 46 was diminishing.

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Last week was chasing fairies.

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So Larry said, great concept.
It makes so much more sense.

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Thank you, Larry, for that.

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And then he asked this question, and I
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to apply to a lot of you listening.

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Do you have any thoughts on how attitudes
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with effect to your play?

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I play rec level in Florida and New
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Jersey, and I think, and then he puts in
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it's friendlier in New Jersey, and
I'm less anxious, so I perform better.

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Competition is about the same.

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Competition is about the same, so
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But the caveat is that I am friendlier
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and not the New Jersey crowd.

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It's interesting, Larry.

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So there's two
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little bit, meaning It sounds like you're
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folks and feel more pressure.

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So is it that, or is it that
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So it sounds like the group is friendly in
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contacts here in Florida.

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And those probably are
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So let's deal with one at a time.

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I agree with the idea that when you're
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you're not going to play well.
And that's happened to me locally.

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There's actually groups.

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There's been a couple of groups that I
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because the level of play is fine, they
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the game, but it's just a weird vibe.

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You The vibe's off for me, right?

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Let me be clear, it doesn't mean
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They're entitled to live their
life the way they want to live it.

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It's just not the vibe that I relate to.

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So I don't go there.

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And I notice that when I go there,
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I'm not really into it, and I don't
play as well as I can otherwise.

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The flip side is when I play with my
friends, like I'm playing tomorrow in a

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group, and I expect to see several of my
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relaxed,
I'll joke around I'll be more relaxed, and

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I'll play way, way, way
better in that environment.

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I actually think I'm pretty confident that
how you feel in the group, the vibe that

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you're getting from the group is
definitely going to impact your play.

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Now, the compounding there may be that if
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meaning you're closer to them, then you
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internalizing what you believe their
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your performance on the court.

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In other words,
if you don't perform on the court, then

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you feel more
let down in terms of your friends judging

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you, potentially, negatively because
of your performance on the court.

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I would submit to you there, the best
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believe we did a podcast on this.

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I don't have the number off top of my
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one has bandwidth for that.

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Most players don't have
bandwidth for that.

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As long as you're roughly at level with
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the fact that you had a rough day or
whatever, most players are in one ear, out

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the other, they're not
paying attention to it.

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They have their own journey.

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My guess is there's
friends of yours in Florida who are just

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as stressed as you are about performing
well in front of their group.

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So I would discount that some.

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The only caveat I would make there is just
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Try not to make a deal of it.

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And what I mean by that is the
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So players, when they pop the ball up,
everybody believes that the music

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stops, everybody stops playing, right?

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All the lights are on that player and the
pop-up and everyone's watching and it's,

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Oh, my God, that player
popped the ball up.

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What an awful player,
which is not the case.

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And the Same as what you're talking about
in that situation, other players aren't

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keeping track of that stuff,
for the most part.

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I mean, there are exceptions,
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But they will if you make a deal of it.

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So if you pop it up and then you
say, Man, I always pop the ball up.

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Then your friends are
going to think, What?

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You always pop the ball up.

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So it's the same thing here.

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If you have a bad day, just go about your
business, add everybody, play your games

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the best you can, and then And carry on.

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Just carry on,
carry on, carrying on with your game.

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But yeah, I can definitely see
how those would impact your play.

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I think you have
more control over the second one.

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The vibe is just a vibe thing, and
that's You can work on that in terms

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of shutting it out, potentially.

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But the others are judging me thing, I
think that one you can work with more

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directly by
understanding that they probably are not

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for the most part, because remember that
they have their their own problems

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that they're dealing with.

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All right.
It's one more thing.

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It reminds me of
when you're given the speech, they say,

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imagine everybody doesn't have clothes on.
Same thing.

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They have their own problems.

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You have your problems,
they have their problems.

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They're probably They're
getting their problems.

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Anyway, so that's this week's podcast.

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I hope you enjoyed it.

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I got to be honest with
everybody, I haven't heard.

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There's no other shoutouts.

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Alan on YouTube is always on there.

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There's one or two others.

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But on the Apple side and the
Spotify side, it's pretty silent.

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So if you listen to the podcast and have a
moment to rate and review, it

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really would appreciate it.

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As I always say, it helps us reach other
players like you who may

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benefit from this podcast.

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And as always, if you enjoyed the podcast,
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friends, because if you enjoyed the
podcast, they probably will, too.

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I hope to see some of you at the end of
July at camp in Florida, and maybe the

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rest of you at the end of June to learn
more about Dinking in our strategy clinic.

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Everything available at betterpickleball.
Com.

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Be well, have a great week,
and I'll see you next time.