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Riccardo Stewart: I wanna welcome
you guys back to another episode

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of the A-W-M-N-F-L Podcast.

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My name's Ricardo Stewart, I'm your
host, and I'm joined with my friends

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Sam Acho, the mayor, Zach Miller, who
we call The Truth, and Jeff Locke,

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who we call the professor because
he's always dropping knowledge.

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Fellas, before we even jump into the
podcast, it seems like we're all at home.

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I mean, this is few weeks after the draft.

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Many of us have been traveling,
getting our guys situated.

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Um, Sam, let me start first
with you before we even jump

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into the topic, is what, what's
life like in Dallas right now?

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Sam Acho: Well, it's, it's
getting hot in Dallas.

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It's about to be a hundred
degrees tomorrow, which is a

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record hot for this time of year.

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Uh, but it's good.

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It's good.

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I've got a chance to be home a little bit
more with family, which has been great.

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Obviously on the road, a little bit
headed on the road tomorrow, uh, for some

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meetings and some, uh, to connect with
some athletes and to speak, and so all

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is well, uh, but things are getting ready
to slow down before they rev up again.

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Riccardo Stewart: before I got get
to Zach, which I know it's hot where

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he's at 'cause I'm in the same office.

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Uh, Jeff, you got a jacket on?

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What?

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What's LA like?

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Jeff Locke: You know the one number
one rule living in LA is you don't

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complain about the weather to anyone.

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Not in la.

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So it, uh, it's nice
in la, cannot complain.

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Might get a little hot,
but nothing like that.

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Easy in Texas heat, you boys
are about to go through.

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Riccardo Stewart: Yeah, Zach, I mean,
give us a glimpse on what's it like.

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I mean, you've been coaching
youth football outside in

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the weather in Phoenix.

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Holler at me.

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Zach Miller: Hey, it's, it's, it's hot.

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Um, all I know is you, you get
tough playing football in Phoenix

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in uh, in this kind of weather.

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And uh, I actually got my first exposure
to the Red Zone Elite Tournament was

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the first one I had my 10 U Boys in.

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And lemme just tell you, there's
some athletes out there and that

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whole world is, whole world's insane.

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It's, uh, it's a lot of fun though, uh,
mid, uh, midnight Madness tournament.

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So really enjoyed doing that
with the, with the boys.

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Riccardo Stewart: Yeah, just on that note,
I was where Zach was with the Red Zone

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Elite and then moving forward and, and,
um, the kids I used to coach now are all

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in high school and they're starting all to
receive their first division one offers.

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And so I'm excited to see that.

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And so, uh, I mean, we, we
probably got ourselves some

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future clients here, but, uh.

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Zach Miller: Definitely.

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Riccardo Stewart: talking
about the draft guys.

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You know, I, I wanna really focus now on
the conversations we've been having with

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many, many potential, uh, clients of ours
that have reached out to us and talking

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about, okay, now I have 50 million I.

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I got 60 million, like
what needs to change?

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Um, what sort of advice should I
have from a financial standpoint

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that's, that's non-negotiable?

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And guys, what I'm talking about is not
necessarily what investments should I be

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in private or, um, public market Really
going, like stepping back and look at the

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financial world and going, when it comes
to my options out there, like what should

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an ultra high net worth athlete have?

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And what I usually say is there's,
there's three eyes that we talk about,

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and one is you need to make sure wherever
you're at, it's independent advice, and

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then when it comes to all of your assets
and anything that your money touches,

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that your plan should be integrated.

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Then lastly, it should be
individualized, those three eyes, right?

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It should be independent,
integrated, and individualized.

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And so I'm gonna, I'm gonna ask
you guys to go ahead and talk

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about each one of those eyes.

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And first, I'm gonna start
first with you, professor.

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So if you can start off with some
knowledge is it talks about independent,

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what does that actually mean?

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When I, when I say to someone,
Hey, you wanna make sure that

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your advice is independent.

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Jeff Locke: Yeah, so independent
is actually looking at the

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structure of the company or the
firm that you're working with.

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Everyone might be built a little
bit different, and you gotta get a

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little bit into the nitty gritty.

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You gotta do a little bit of research to
figure out who you're actually dealing

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with when it comes to financial advice.

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So what you want is advice
that is specific to you, not.

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Just kind of advice that's kind of
suitable to you or like, Hey, it

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might kind of fit your circumstance.

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And what I mean is when you work
with certain types of companies,

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think really big banks, think places,
insurance companies think anything

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that is publicly owned, right?

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Traded on the stock market.

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Their first answer, who
they first answer to.

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Is the people that invest
in their company, right?

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Millions of people are
owners of their companies.

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Their number one responsibility
is profit for the company.

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Number two, responsibility
is advice to you.

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Okay?

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So being independent means
you don't have that big boss.

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You gotta answer to
driving the profit, right?

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Independent also comes down to the
investments that you can be put in.

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The investments you can actually choose.

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Or your advisor can help
you choose in your portfolio

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when you're not independent.

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I hate the term, but they
call it a menu, right?

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All these big companies, since you
create this menu, like you're at

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a place getting dinner, these are
the different investments you can

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choose from, and it's only this menu.

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You can't go back to the chef
in the back and be like, Hey,

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I want this special order.

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They'd be like, nah, this
ain't that kind of place.

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Right?

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That's when you're not independent.

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You've got this menu when you've got
wealth like Ricardo talked about.

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You need a lot of stuff off menu.

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You need to be able to go to any
farmer's market, you want any restaurant

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in the world, and pick the best
possible things for your situation.

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Independent firms can do that.

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Firms that are not
independent cannot do that.

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So to sum it all up, independent
means client first, best advice for

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the client, not what's best for the
company first, and we kind of just try

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to fit it in to what the client needs.

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Riccardo Stewart: That was good.

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That was helpful.

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So if I start first with independent,
The next thing is, we say is.

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We want, or you should have advice
to everything your money touches

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and it should be integrated truth.

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Why don't you drop some knowledge
for us and understand what does

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it mean by integrated and maybe, I
don't know if you have experiences

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yourself and when it's not integrated.

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Um, I know you do.

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So let's hear.

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Let's hear what you have to say.

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Zach Miller: so integrated.

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I mean, when it comes down to your
money, you have that one net worth,

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what kind of all your wealth that
you have, that's your net worth.

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And then you have one effective
tax rate, meaning you could have a

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bunch of investments, you could have
a bunch of deals, you could have a

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bunch of income from the NFL, but all
of that goes on that one tax return.

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So everything is.

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Together.

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And so your team has to
work closely together and no

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decision you make is isolated.

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There's not little silos where
this doesn't matter over here,

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and this doesn't affect that.

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Everything affects each other.

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And if you think about
generational wealth, I.

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I mean, you're making 50 million.

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You have the opportunity
for generational wealth.

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You have taxes, investments, insurance,
estate, business, legal, philanthropy,

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and that's the whole nonprofit.

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All that, all of that is tied together,
and so you have to have different

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positions just like you do on the football
field, whether it's quarterbacks, tight

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ends, running backs, you have to have

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Jeff Locke: Kickers.

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Zach Miller: elite kickers.

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There's kicking game for sure.

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You have to have that entire elite
team all the best at what they do.

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And one person can't do that.

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And so that integration of your team and
how good they can work together, it, they

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can't be siloed and have, you know, one
guy that doesn't talk to another guy.

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And I had a financial advisor at
Merrill Lynch, smart guy, nice suit,

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you know, did well talking, um.

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And then I had another good CPA
and they both did their part.

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They both did their
thing but not together.

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The result of that is I paid two
million more in taxes than I, than

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I, that I didn't have to because

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Jeff Locke: they

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Zach Miller: weren't together.

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They weren't working as one,
and so let that sink in.

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That's not a rounding area

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Jeff Locke: error

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Zach Miller: that's bad coordination
by my team that you don't have

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to experience if you have them
all working together in that.

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Um.

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Fully, fully together, coordinated,
cohesive unit, just like a football

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team that goes out on the field
with the coaching staff that's

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all on the same page, all working
together to ultimately win the game.

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Your team has to be put together
to do that, and you can't

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Jeff Locke: do

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Zach Miller: that with just a
guy over here, a guy over there,

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and hoping they get it right.

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You have to have that fully integrated
team of professionals to make sure

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that you have the best chance of
achieving that generational wealth.

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Riccardo Stewart: So we
step back, we go first.

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It has to be independent.

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Right.

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Understanding.

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Who do they answer to first?

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Is it gonna be shareholders
or is it gonna be you?

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And then when it comes to the
options, you have to invest.

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I think Jeff said it best.

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Do you want the menu from the restaurant?

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And only the restaurant can provide?

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What makes me think that reminds me of
Jeff, like being at this breakfast place

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and the lady came my son, my youngest
at the time, he was like seven years

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old, how would you like your eggs?

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And he goes, what do you mean?

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Would you like him scrambled?

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Would you like him over easy?

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And he says, yeah.

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Uh, hard boiled.

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She looked at him and she goes,
actually, we don't do that.

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And that's what it's like
in the financial world.

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You, you think you're ordering
something that's on the menu, but

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if you want something that's off the
menu, you better be with somebody who

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is independent and then integrated.

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Jeff, what you're saying is you
don't want an offensive coordinator

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who shows up on Sunday, who doesn't
know the players, doesn't understand

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your strengths and weaknesses.

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Who begins the call plays, and a receiver
who doesn't come to practice actually

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practice with a completely different team.

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So there's no true coordination.

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lastly, we get to a plan
that's individualized.

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Sam, I, I, I saved this for
you because you are the mayor

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and you're a man of the people.

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So the individualization of a plan is
something I feel like you would get.

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So drop, drop some knowledge for us.

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Sam Acho: The best thing
about an individualized plan.

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I'm gonna talk about the
best thing, I think, why you

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deserve an individualized plan.

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I'll start with the story.

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So.

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Some of the work I do is at this as a
WMI also work at ESPN and I wear suits

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oftentimes, and I remember going to
Italy, this was about 10 years ago,

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and my dad, he, you know, he is a, a
business guy, pastors of church, he's

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a psychologist, wears a ton of suits.

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He was like, Hey man, we're in Italy,
we're in, I think we're in Milan,

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and there was this really expensive.

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Suit, and I was like, dad, I'm not
about to pay, you know, X amount

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of dollars for this expensive suit.

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He is like, dude, trust me.

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Like you want to, you
want to get this suit.

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It's like silk.

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It's like butter, et cetera.

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So I'm like, all right, cool.

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I'll get the soup.

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But mind you, I'm 6 3 2
60 Italy people, Italian.

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It ain't like that, but they had it.

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They had a suit that was like big
enough that would kind of fit,

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it wasn't like exactly fitting.

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I was like, what do I do?

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thankfully in Italy where
fashion essentially began,

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they had this custom tailor.

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Uh, essentially he was a, a man who was
in his eighties, who for his entire life

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had been tailoring suits to fit people's
bodies, individual people's bodies.

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Um, he was a master Taylor, excuse me.

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Gotta cut a master.

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Best in class.

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Well, so he, I got the suit,
he measured my body, right?

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Master Taylor, didn't speak a lick of
English and came back and a few days

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later, or hours, whatever it was, I
got the suit, I paid for the suit.

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It was very expensive.

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Um, but I brought it back and when
I put it on and say that it fit

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like a glove, like not only did
I look different, not only did I

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feel different, but the way that I
presented to the world was different.

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It wasn't a suit from big and
tall wasn't one of those things.

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You get off the rack.

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It was individualized to my
body and to my job, right?

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It was like, man, I wore that suit.

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I, I did stuff at, uh, at the White House
wearing that suit with former presidents.

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I did stuff on ESPN wearing that suit,
calling uh uh, traveling while I was

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playing individualized custom fit.

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Same thing when I was playing in Arizona.

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Larry Fitzgerald would always
wear these custom suits, custom

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jeans, custom everything, and
it had to do with who he was.

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so the benefit of having an individualized
plan, a custom suit, not for something

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that's off the rack is that yes,
it helps you feel good and look

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good, but it also helps go to the
things that actually matter to you.

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I'm traveling for a game on, on,
I'm on ESPN, I gotta go meet with

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this person or that dignitary.

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I need something custom and individualized
to me, that's what a, that's what

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a, that's what you deserve, right?

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You talked about, Ricardo started
this, this Congo of, hey, somebody

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who's made 50 million, 70 million,
a hundred million dollars.

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Like, okay, you might have different,
it might cost you a little bit more.

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It's worth it because the things you
get back in return, what you can afford,

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what you deserve actually ends up
paying you back more in the long run.

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And so when I think about something
individualized or custom, I think that's

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what you deserve as a, as one of the,
the best in the world or what you do.

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Riccardo Stewart: So to
wrap it all together.

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You gotta make sure you got a plan
that's independent, a team that

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answers to you, not to somebody else.

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You gotta make it, make sure it's
integrated, that there's not loose

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ends, but there's clear coordination.

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And then lastly, you gotta have a
suit that fits you for your purpose.

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So if your goals and you have a life
that's planned for you, don't have

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somebody else's life, don't have
a plan for somebody else's life.

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Have a plan that's uniquely tailored
to fit your dreams, your desires,

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your priorities, and your goals.

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If there's anything we said today that
you're going, I'm curious about that, or

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I wanna learn more about like what does
it mean to be independent or any questions

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