1 00:00:06,670 --> 00:00:11,810 Good evening and welcome to the 985 workbench. I'm W3MOW, my name is Mike, and I'm happy to 2 00:00:11,810 --> 00:00:16,450 be your host tonight. I'm located in the village of Sadsburyville, here in beautiful Chester 3 00:00:16,450 --> 00:00:22,310 County, Pennsylvania. We meet here every Monday night at 8 p.m. on the W3GMS Parksburg repeater. 4 00:00:22,690 --> 00:00:29,310 The frequency is 146 decimal 985 megahertz, and the PL tone is 100 hertz. For those stations 5 00:00:29,310 --> 00:00:35,686 that use a tone squelcher on receive, the repeater used a tone squelcher of 94.8 hertz. Newcomers 6 00:00:35,686 --> 00:00:39,617 are very welcome and we encourage all stations to check in. When you get a moment, take a 7 00:00:39,617 --> 00:00:47,779 look at the repeater website located at www.w3gmsrepeater.com as it has a lot of information including technical 8 00:00:47,779 --> 00:00:53,161 articles, pictures of 985 years in action, and repeater etiquette and history. Now here 9 00:00:53,161 --> 00:00:58,122 on the workbench, we focus on answering general amateur radio questions and discussing topics 10 00:00:58,122 --> 00:01:02,163 of radio theory and operation. Additionally, we'll be asking each station to make some general 11 00:01:02,163 --> 00:01:06,462 comments about what you did to amateur radio in the past week. So when you check in, please 12 00:01:06,462 --> 00:01:09,862 indicate if you have a question for the group. And even if you don't have a question, we ask 13 00:01:09,862 --> 00:01:15,062 you to check in. After all stations have checked in, we're going to go into our general comments 14 00:01:15,062 --> 00:01:19,882 portion of the workbench using a roundtable-like forum, kind of like what we do on Thursday 15 00:01:19,882 --> 00:01:23,602 nights. And then after each station gives their general comments, we'll move on to stations 16 00:01:23,602 --> 00:01:28,882 with questions. Then after the question is heard from the station, we'll reach out to the workbench 17 00:01:28,882 --> 00:01:32,922 for a station to answer the question. Once the question is answered satisfactorily, we'll 18 00:01:32,922 --> 00:01:37,746 move on to other stations with questions. Remember the workbench is the time and place to ask 19 00:01:37,746 --> 00:01:42,566 those in-depth questions, so please don't hesitate to ask. Keep in mind the question portion of 20 00:01:42,566 --> 00:01:47,866 the workbench is a directed net, so we ask you to be, wait to be recognized by net control 21 00:01:47,866 --> 00:01:52,366 before beginning a transmission. This is just to ensure that we handle your questions efficiently 22 00:01:52,366 --> 00:01:56,366 and keep the net running smoothly. However, there may be times where our stations, where 23 00:01:56,366 --> 00:02:01,246 two stations need direct communications for additional questions, general statements, or 24 00:02:01,246 --> 00:02:05,486 follow-up, and I ask you to do that if necessary and just pass it back to net control afterwards. 25 00:02:06,990 --> 00:02:13,390 We do have a few quick things to remember here on 985, and the first one is click, wait a 26 00:02:13,390 --> 00:02:17,190 second, and then talk. And that's just to ensure we don't miss the first few syllables of your 27 00:02:17,190 --> 00:02:22,410 transmission. Also, we need you to let up on the PTT from time to time, something like this, 28 00:02:23,630 --> 00:02:28,550 as the repeater has a three-minute timeout timer. And finally, at the end of your transmission, 29 00:02:28,610 --> 00:02:32,870 turn it back over to net control. Before we begin tonight, I'd like to thank all the other 30 00:02:32,870 --> 00:02:36,811 stations for volunteering as hosts for the workbench. If you'd like to host the workbench in the 31 00:02:36,811 --> 00:02:43,093 future, please reach out to one of us and we will gladly get you on the schedule. Lastly, 32 00:02:43,093 --> 00:02:50,637 I believe at this time we're looking for a host to host this week's session of the 9-5 33 00:02:50,637 --> 00:02:58,991 Thursday night roundtable as Jack K3YVQ is unable to do it this Thursday. So if you'd 34 00:02:58,991 --> 00:03:04,928 like to volunteer as a host this Thursday at 8 p.m. For the workbench, please reach out 35 00:03:04,928 --> 00:03:11,664 to Jim, AF3Z, and we will gladly get you scheduled for that. At this time, we're going to start 36 00:03:11,664 --> 00:03:17,990 the check-in process. So if you could just give your call sign and your name and just 37 00:03:17,990 --> 00:03:23,314 indicate if you have a question. I have been away from the radio, so I don't know a lot 38 00:03:23,314 --> 00:03:27,748 of the newer call signs to me. So I may just ask for some quick follow-up saying phonetically, 39 00:03:27,748 --> 00:03:31,763 asking for your name, things of that nature. And there may be some times where I'm pausing 40 00:03:31,763 --> 00:03:38,327 on my end and that's just me doing things to the list to make sure I have everything 41 00:03:38,407 --> 00:03:43,780 good to go over here. So just remember to indicate if you have a question for the group. So at 42 00:03:43,780 --> 00:03:47,062 this time we're going to start the check-ins. We're going to do digital stations only at 43 00:03:47,062 --> 00:03:52,716 this time. So stations using All-Star EchoLink wishing to check in to the 985 Monday Night 44 00:03:52,716 --> 00:03:56,338 Workbench, please call now. This is W3MOW. 45 00:03:59,726 --> 00:04:03,351 Whiskey 8, Charlie Romeo Whiskey, no question. 46 00:04:25,422 --> 00:04:31,160 All right, have CRW8CRW. Do we have any other digital check-ins? Wishing to check in, All 47 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:36,590 Star EchoLink. Please call now and we'll give you plenty of time. This is W3MOW. 48 00:04:47,330 --> 00:04:54,662 Whiskey One Romeo Charlie in Marblehead, Massachusetts with no questions, maybe answers. 49 00:05:06,478 --> 00:05:12,871 All right, we got Mike W1RC from Massachusetts sounding good of the All-Star, I believe. Thanks 50 00:05:12,871 --> 00:05:17,633 for checking in tonight. At this time, we'll go into our regular check-ins. So at this 51 00:05:17,633 --> 00:05:21,725 time, we'll take all check-ins, all check-ins for the 985 workbench. Please call now and 52 00:05:21,725 --> 00:05:23,606 remember to indicate if you have a question for the group. 53 00:05:31,456 --> 00:05:33,380 NA-3CW, no questions. 54 00:05:46,523 --> 00:05:48,914 Foxtrot 3 Zulu 1 55 00:05:53,582 --> 00:05:55,474 KC30K. 56 00:06:07,744 --> 00:06:10,880 C3WWC, no question. 57 00:06:35,426 --> 00:06:40,381 We have a few check-ins here, so we'll start out with what I have. I have Chuck NA3CW, then 58 00:06:40,381 --> 00:06:47,638 I have Jim with a question, AF3Z, then Bill KC3, oh, OK. And then I have, I just heard 59 00:06:47,638 --> 00:06:53,063 maybe a little bit of doubling in there. So I heard WWC. And I should know this call sign 60 00:06:53,063 --> 00:06:56,827 by now because it sounds familiar. But can you come back with your full call and your name 61 00:06:56,827 --> 00:06:59,670 for the WWC, please? 62 00:07:03,918 --> 00:07:13,234 I tried to get in on RF and had to switch to All-Star. This is John, KC3WWC. 63 00:07:19,958 --> 00:07:24,660 Okay, very good, John. Got you in there. I thought that's what your call was. Got you good, and 64 00:07:24,660 --> 00:07:30,572 you're sounding really good on All-Star there. Do we have any more check-ins? So we're taking 65 00:07:30,572 --> 00:07:36,404 all check-ins at this time. RF check-ins and digital check-ins for the 985 Monday Night 66 00:07:36,404 --> 00:07:39,905 Workbench. Please call now and indicate if you have a question for the group. This is 67 00:07:39,918 --> 00:07:41,906 W3MOW. 68 00:08:02,454 --> 00:08:06,595 Okay, nothing heard at this time and that's no worries. It's a beautiful Monday night so 69 00:08:06,855 --> 00:08:11,217 maybe we just have some folks out and about enjoying the night and the weather. But we'll 70 00:08:11,217 --> 00:08:17,058 get started here anyway and maybe we'll get some folks joining us as the night continues. 71 00:08:17,058 --> 00:08:21,860 So at this time I'll go over the check-in list. If you can just write down who comes before 72 00:08:21,860 --> 00:08:30,166 and after so you know when it's your turn to give us a quick rundown of your week. Since 73 00:08:30,166 --> 00:08:34,306 we do have a short check-in list, feel free to chew the rag as you're talking to us about 74 00:08:34,306 --> 00:08:38,106 what you did in amateur radio for the past week. There's really no rush, although we do have 75 00:08:38,106 --> 00:08:42,086 one question on the docket tonight. And I'm sure we'll have plenty of time to get to that. 76 00:08:42,366 --> 00:08:47,226 So let's just try to enjoy ourselves. What do you say? All right, so here's the list as I 77 00:08:47,226 --> 00:08:54,866 have it. We have W8CRWCR. Then CR, you'll turn over to Mike, W1RC. Then it goes to Chuck, 78 00:08:55,026 --> 00:09:04,744 NA3CW. Then Jim, AF3Z. Then Bill, KC3OOK. And then Bill, you'll turn it to John, KC3WWC. 79 00:09:04,744 --> 00:09:13,423 And John, you'll turn it to me. And maybe we'll get some more check-ins, W3MOW. So CR, we'll 80 00:09:13,423 --> 00:09:21,842 turn it over to you. Good evening to you, sir. W8CRW. Good evening. This is W3MOW. 81 00:09:26,190 --> 00:09:33,816 Very good, Mike, and the group. Glad to hear you. This is CR. Let's see, I gotta stop this 82 00:09:33,816 --> 00:09:42,804 thing from beeping here. The regular 985 activities for this was, boy, I'm tongue-tied. Regular 83 00:09:42,804 --> 00:09:50,410 985 activities for the week. Breakfast was good, a lot of turnout, and I'm tongue-tied, 84 00:09:50,410 --> 00:09:55,154 so I'm gonna forget about the rest and give it to Mr. Mike. Mr. Mike in Massachusetts, 85 00:09:55,154 --> 00:09:56,853 pick it up. WHCRW. 86 00:10:04,394 --> 00:10:10,913 As very good see our good evening to everybody on the net from W1RC I have no questions for 87 00:10:10,913 --> 00:10:16,971 the net and I'll stick around and if I can provide answers I'd be happy to and I'll turn 88 00:10:16,971 --> 00:10:33,807 over to Chuck in a CW W1RC Thank you Mike, W1RC. This is NA3CW. Not particularly exciting 89 00:10:33,807 --> 00:10:40,983 AMRADIO WEEK. Monday and Tuesday we were traveling, went up to Wellsboro and Pennsylvania Grand 90 00:10:40,983 --> 00:10:49,139 Canyon. That was Monday. Tuesday we went to the Corning Museum of Glass and saw part of 91 00:10:49,139 --> 00:10:57,933 it, it's huge, and drove home. And Thursday we were on the roundtable. And Friday, let's 92 00:10:58,594 --> 00:11:09,639 see, various QSOs on 985, and then Sunday afternoon, the PMAM net, 175 meters. And 93 00:11:09,639 --> 00:11:21,426 the other thing is I've been tracking down a noise. my 75 meters, S9 line noise that popped 94 00:11:21,426 --> 00:11:29,286 up a few storms ago, it's about three weeks ago now. And I've been sort of ignoring it 95 00:11:29,286 --> 00:11:35,326 because most of the time when I'm on 75 I'm using an online receiver anyway. But I tracked 96 00:11:35,326 --> 00:11:39,986 it down, I'm pretty sure it's the pole at the end of my street here along South Limestone 97 00:11:39,986 --> 00:11:45,714 Road, so about to put in a request to Pico. I didn't want to bother them after all of this. 98 00:11:45,774 --> 00:11:50,654 the storms because I knew they were very busy putting us all back together again. But think 99 00:11:50,654 --> 00:11:58,354 enough time has passed that it's time for them to get on this thing. So I think it's a bad 100 00:11:58,354 --> 00:12:04,414 lightning arrestor. It's very consistent and loud and doesn't vary by weather or anything 101 00:12:04,414 --> 00:12:13,770 else. It's just S8 to S9 all the time, 24 hours a day on 75 meters. I just took a walk down 102 00:12:13,770 --> 00:12:20,110 there with my HT that can cover the aircraft band and the highest frequency that it will 103 00:12:20,110 --> 00:12:27,550 handle on AM is the, the reason I did the aircraft band is because AM, or aircraft use AM and 104 00:12:27,550 --> 00:12:35,550 you need AM to hear a noise. So the highest frequency it will go is 136 and some time ago 105 00:12:35,550 --> 00:12:42,002 I made a mox and rectangle antenna with two, with some wire and two yard sticks. Cut for 106 00:12:42,002 --> 00:12:50,362 136 megahertz. So I walked down there to the other end of the block and did some directional 107 00:12:50,362 --> 00:12:58,562 searching and I'm pretty sure it's the pole at end of my street. it's, I guess, I don't 108 00:12:58,562 --> 00:13:03,922 know if that's Hammer Radio or not, but there you go. So over to Jim, AF3Z and A3CW. 109 00:13:08,300 --> 00:13:13,694 Okay, thank you Chuck and Mike, yep, thank you very much for being here and hosting tonight. 110 00:13:13,694 --> 00:13:22,301 Good to hear you. Yeah, my ham radio activity has been normal as far as workbench and roundtable 111 00:13:22,301 --> 00:13:29,287 and the breakfast on Friday, that was good as always. And some CW now and again. And 112 00:13:29,367 --> 00:13:36,002 these days most of my CW is scheduled with Guy Locally. A couple of QRP contests coming up 113 00:13:36,002 --> 00:13:45,023 that I may dip into. That's about it for me. Last week was kind of punctuated with rain 114 00:13:45,023 --> 00:13:50,917 and flooding and water and stuff. Now that relates to my question, but I won't go into 115 00:13:50,917 --> 00:13:56,812 that yet. So that's what's up here. And yeah, the nice weather must have pulled everybody 116 00:13:56,812 --> 00:14:09,982 out of the shack here tonight. So that's about it here. Bill, KC-3-0-OK, AF-3-0. KC3, OK, 117 00:14:09,982 --> 00:14:13,730 I hear the intermod's in and I'm running low power, am I making it in? 118 00:14:18,038 --> 00:14:22,758 Yeah, Bill, you're sounding good. You're just a little bit over the noise, but you're very 119 00:14:22,758 --> 00:14:27,347 clearly, you know, we can hear you loud and clear. You just hear the noise a little bit 120 00:14:27,347 --> 00:14:27,848 in the background. 121 00:14:30,862 --> 00:14:34,795 Okay, I turned it up to high power. I don't know how the antenna will handle that, but 122 00:14:34,896 --> 00:14:44,963 we'll give it a try and I'll try to be brief. in Ham Radio this week. gathering on Friday 123 00:14:45,085 --> 00:14:46,484 at the brass eagle and 124 00:14:58,030 --> 00:14:58,335 Yeah. 125 00:15:01,454 --> 00:15:01,906 up. 126 00:15:07,470 --> 00:15:16,018 So that's about it for me. I'll turn it over to John and Lancaster KC3 WWC KC3. 127 00:15:23,822 --> 00:15:26,304 John in Landisville. 128 00:15:31,042 --> 00:15:36,516 yesterday I found a really nice state game land for parks on the air. Usually they're 129 00:15:36,516 --> 00:15:41,549 not all that nice but there was parking and there was game commission maintenance buildings 130 00:15:41,549 --> 00:15:47,573 so I could sit in the shade there so that was pretty nice and it was quiet. I got my replacement 131 00:15:47,573 --> 00:15:57,971 UV Pro back from B-Tech and it now transmits fine on 2 meter APRS. It had kind of guess 132 00:15:57,971 --> 00:16:02,579 burned out that side of the radio. because it was putting out a quarter watt, not five 133 00:16:02,579 --> 00:16:11,431 watts. I've also been playing around with another cheap RADTEL radio that does APRS and a little 134 00:16:11,431 --> 00:16:16,973 handheld, so that's always fun. It kind of combines all the features of my favorite radios, 135 00:16:16,973 --> 00:16:23,405 like spectrum graphs and stuff like that. But the interface does make all the other radios 136 00:16:23,405 --> 00:16:31,353 look a lot nicer. Today around noon I found... six meters pretty open to Florida. And then 137 00:16:31,373 --> 00:16:36,698 later in the afternoon, it distinctly shifted that it was only open to like Wisconsin. It 138 00:16:36,698 --> 00:16:42,083 was kind of neat to observe. I'm just using my random wire in the backyard. So we were 139 00:16:42,083 --> 00:16:47,888 discussing at lunch, I believe, or at the breakfast about like, what do you need to do six meter? 140 00:16:47,908 --> 00:16:52,071 And people were talking about Yagis, but my wire was doing it. So it must've been open. 141 00:16:52,071 --> 00:16:59,026 I will hand it back to Mike. and W3MOW, this is KC3WWC. 142 00:17:07,414 --> 00:17:12,456 Okay, very good, John. Thank you for your comments. Thanks for checking in. That goes to everyone. 143 00:17:12,456 --> 00:17:16,718 Thanks to everyone for your comments and thanks for checking into the workbench tonight. Glad 144 00:17:16,718 --> 00:17:22,360 to hear everyone is still doing some fun stuff in the hobby. And Chuck, that's really cool 145 00:17:22,361 --> 00:17:27,363 what you were doing to track down the noise that you were getting in the neighborhood. 146 00:17:27,363 --> 00:17:34,346 So that's always fun too. And John, you're doing a whole bunch of stuff, which is fun, APRS 147 00:17:34,346 --> 00:17:40,092 and all that jazz. I remember we did a 6 meter sked one time on 985 and had a few people check 148 00:17:40,092 --> 00:17:45,336 into that. That was kind of fun. Let's see, I haven't really been doing much in amateur 149 00:17:45,336 --> 00:17:49,610 radio per the usual. And I keep telling you guys every time I host that I'm going to change 150 00:17:49,610 --> 00:17:54,945 that. I haven't been keeping up my promises. So I'm not going to say that again. But hopefully 151 00:17:54,945 --> 00:18:02,181 I will get active again. And I really do enjoy hosting when it comes my time every about 152 00:18:02,361 --> 00:18:10,531 six weeks or so. This keeps me engaged in the hobby and I really do enjoy it. So with that 153 00:18:10,531 --> 00:18:13,462 said, we did have a really small list. I'm going to call out one more time, see we get some 154 00:18:13,462 --> 00:18:17,544 additional check-ins, maybe some additional comments before we move into the question 155 00:18:17,544 --> 00:18:22,316 portion of the NET. Otherwise, it will be a very short workbench. So let's see, do we have 156 00:18:22,316 --> 00:18:27,213 any additional check-ins or any stations at this time who would like to check into the 157 00:18:27,213 --> 00:18:34,738 985 workbench? If you do, please call now. This is W3MOW. you 158 00:18:40,841 --> 00:18:42,450 QP, no question. 159 00:18:51,842 --> 00:18:56,463 Alright Tim, I heard you in there W3QP, but I don't know if you were doubling with someone 160 00:18:56,463 --> 00:19:02,395 or someone was just really low in the noise. We do have the intermod it sounds like on 161 00:19:02,395 --> 00:19:08,327 there. That's what Bill said a couple rounds ago. I'm not really good at detecting it, but 162 00:19:08,327 --> 00:19:13,869 it's there. So if you have higher power, now's the time to use it. So go ahead and try calling 163 00:19:13,869 --> 00:19:18,994 one more time the station that was either doubling or just barely getting to the repeater. If 164 00:19:18,994 --> 00:19:22,066 you want to check in, please call now. This is W3MOW. 165 00:19:26,432 --> 00:19:28,946 and three CRE, no questions. 166 00:19:51,686 --> 00:19:58,061 I have N3CRE Charlie down at Westchester. think Tim just a little bit closer to the 167 00:19:58,061 --> 00:20:02,444 repeater. She may have been doubling with him and he just beat you to it. Do we have any 168 00:20:02,444 --> 00:20:08,678 more check-ins for the workbench? Please call now. 3 Mike Foxtrot Bravo, you hear me now? 169 00:20:13,272 --> 00:20:18,401 Thorndale Mike got you loud and clear W3MFB. Any other stations please call. 170 00:20:31,438 --> 00:20:35,760 Okay, nothing heard. Since we do have some time, gentlemen, we'll let you just give us some 171 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:40,762 brief comments about what you did to Amateur Radio in the past week. And then after your 172 00:20:40,762 --> 00:20:45,004 comments, and feel free to take as long as you need to, because we'll have plenty of time, 173 00:20:45,004 --> 00:20:50,396 so feel free to chew the rag. We'll get into the question portion of the workbench. Tim, 174 00:20:50,396 --> 00:20:55,939 you're going to start us off W3QP, and then you'll pass it over to Charlie, N3CRE, and 175 00:20:55,939 --> 00:21:00,652 then Charlie, you'll pass it to Mike, W3MFB. And then Mike, just turn it back to me when 176 00:21:00,652 --> 00:21:05,711 you're done with your comments and we'll get started with the questions. So Tim, thanks 177 00:21:05,711 --> 00:21:15,203 for checking in tonight. Good evening to you, sir. W3QP, this is W3MOW. W3MOW and the group. 178 00:21:15,243 --> 00:21:20,765 is W3QP. I a little late tonight. I was playing out in the dirt, working on chopping stumps 179 00:21:20,765 --> 00:21:26,297 out of the ground and got another one done, so that was exciting. For actual radio, I 180 00:21:26,297 --> 00:21:30,609 went down to Assateague Island this weekend and spent a little time on 20 meters in the 181 00:21:30,609 --> 00:21:37,332 Jeep. Only maintained 10 contacts. I just didn't spend a lot of time on it, but I had 182 00:21:37,332 --> 00:21:45,364 fun. One of the stations I contacted was November, November... for Sierra Alpha. was the NASA 183 00:21:45,364 --> 00:21:52,829 station out of the Marshall Space Center in Huntsville. That was pretty cool. They were 184 00:21:52,829 --> 00:21:58,343 doing a special event for the 56th anniversary of the moon landing, which I didn't realize 185 00:21:58,343 --> 00:22:04,297 it had been that long, but that was pretty cool. That is all for me. So over to N3CRE. This 186 00:22:04,297 --> 00:22:05,920 is W3QP. 187 00:22:10,658 --> 00:22:17,738 Again, Charlie here, not much. Thank you, Jim. Not much myself. Went to the breakfast, learned 188 00:22:17,738 --> 00:22:24,498 more possible problems I have with electric vehicles from CR. Very interesting discussion. 189 00:22:25,738 --> 00:22:30,298 But other than that, I haven't been doing much on the radio other than listening and trying 190 00:22:30,298 --> 00:22:35,678 to stay cool. And likewise, I was outside, just got done my walk. I was going to have to do 191 00:22:35,678 --> 00:22:40,335 a choice. Do I go for a walk or we need the yard? I went for a walk. do a reading some 192 00:22:40,335 --> 00:22:48,006 of the time. Anyway, that's about it for this day and I'll turn it over to Mike at W3MSB, 193 00:22:48,167 --> 00:22:50,450 N3CRE. Clear. 194 00:22:54,546 --> 00:23:04,006 Mike Fox Bravo. Yeah, not too much, just a little bit of HF. Actually before the workbench, sorry, 195 00:23:04,046 --> 00:23:11,386 I almost called it the roundtable. The workbench, we had a great band opening from 10 and up. 196 00:23:11,466 --> 00:23:18,366 I worked Switzerland a minute ago, or a little while ago on 17 meters, so that was pretty 197 00:23:18,366 --> 00:23:28,582 cool. Heard a lot of Spain. and Ireland on 17 as well. 10 should have been open. There was 198 00:23:28,582 --> 00:23:37,262 only like one guy on there, maybe two guys. And 11 meter was wide open, so go figure. But 199 00:23:37,262 --> 00:23:45,282 one of these days, hands will get on 10 when 11's wide open. But anyway, yeah, that's what's 200 00:23:45,282 --> 00:23:51,402 going on. That's what's going on. Just a great weekend, beautiful weather, good rest today. 201 00:23:52,970 --> 00:23:58,302 And Wednesday, up until Wednesday, it should be nice and less humid. And then I'll be 202 00:23:58,302 --> 00:24:06,505 back. But you know what's coming? Halloween. And autumn is coming and Joe's favorite season 203 00:24:06,505 --> 00:24:13,057 winter is coming too. So something to look forward to. MoW, W3MFB. No question, Mike. 204 00:24:22,838 --> 00:24:26,740 Okay, very good, Mike. Thanks for turning it over and thanks for checking and thanks for 205 00:24:26,740 --> 00:24:31,383 your comments. Same to you, Tim and Charlie. Thanks for checking and thanks for your comments 206 00:24:31,383 --> 00:24:38,097 tonight. Apparently these days, Mike, people are celebrating, starting to celebrate Halloween 207 00:24:38,097 --> 00:24:43,410 in the middle of July or something. I just read on the interwebs the other day, so that's 208 00:24:43,410 --> 00:24:52,734 interesting. But hey, to each their own. All right, so with that being said, I think it's 209 00:24:52,734 --> 00:24:58,434 time to move into the question portion of the workbench. So let's see. We do have a quick 210 00:24:58,434 --> 00:25:02,054 comment before the question portion. I know we really only have one on the docket tonight 211 00:25:02,054 --> 00:25:07,914 with Jim. But if any other station has a question, just let us know and we'll be sure to get it 212 00:25:07,914 --> 00:25:12,154 answered for you tonight. And if there are stations out there listening that may have not checked 213 00:25:12,154 --> 00:25:16,234 in yet or just listening on the side, if you have a question, just let us know at any time 214 00:25:16,234 --> 00:25:20,934 and we'll be glad to get to it. We do have a quick comment here before the question portion 215 00:25:20,934 --> 00:25:24,766 of workbench. And that is that the workbench participation is most important to us here 216 00:25:24,766 --> 00:25:28,966 on 985. So we encourage all stations to make some general comments and share experiences 217 00:25:28,966 --> 00:25:33,086 as knowledge level doesn't matter here on the repeater as we can all learn from each other. 218 00:25:33,506 --> 00:25:41,506 So I ask you to pick up the mic and have some fun tonight with us. So let's see. AF3Z, good 219 00:25:41,506 --> 00:25:45,366 evening to you once again. And go ahead with your question. This is W3MOW. 220 00:25:48,782 --> 00:25:52,365 All right, Mike, thank you. And first of all, are you hearing me okay? AF3, you said. 221 00:25:55,682 --> 00:26:00,256 Yes Jim, you're sounding good and again, I'm not a really good detector of the inner mod, 222 00:26:00,256 --> 00:26:05,350 maybe it has gone away. I didn't really hear anything weird that time. But you're sounding 223 00:26:05,350 --> 00:26:05,760 really good. 224 00:26:09,654 --> 00:26:13,915 you didn't hear anything weird, you might not have been hearing me. Alright, very good Mike, 225 00:26:13,915 --> 00:26:20,577 thank you. This is an interesting question to me and it's amateur radio related but it's 226 00:26:20,577 --> 00:26:29,149 on the supply side as in power coming into your house. During the flooding in Mount Joy about 227 00:26:29,149 --> 00:26:38,282 a week ago, I had my shop vac set up late at night. I propped it up so that it could 228 00:26:38,282 --> 00:26:44,817 keep running. where the water at that point was seeping in through the wall. And so it 229 00:26:44,817 --> 00:26:51,240 was just sitting down there running and running and running. And I came up and tried to catch 230 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:57,444 some sleep with my alarm set so I could get up on the hour and go check on things. But 231 00:26:57,444 --> 00:27:03,477 I heard something very interesting to me. A lot of times when you turn on something that 232 00:27:03,477 --> 00:27:11,617 draws a lot of current, the lights will dim or something like that. So when the sump pump, 233 00:27:11,617 --> 00:27:16,729 and there is a sump pump in addition to the shop vac that was running, when the sump pump 234 00:27:16,749 --> 00:27:26,253 would turn on, the sound of the shop vac would go faster, like it was getting more 235 00:27:26,253 --> 00:27:32,496 juice. All of a sudden you'd hear the shop vac sort of rev up. And when the sump pump shut 236 00:27:32,496 --> 00:27:40,975 off, the shop vac slowed down again. So then I tried a little bit, I didn't do this at the 237 00:27:40,975 --> 00:27:50,849 time, but then I plugged my little multimeter into an outlet in the kitchen and when the 238 00:27:50,849 --> 00:27:53,042 refrigerator would turn on... 239 00:27:56,430 --> 00:28:03,050 According to my meter, the line voltage was around 125 volts at the time. And when the 240 00:28:03,050 --> 00:28:11,870 refrigerator turned on, it went up to like 127 or 128, a couple volts higher. I did this twice, 241 00:28:11,930 --> 00:28:18,450 just did it right before the round table. Yeah, what is this, workbench? And the microwave, 242 00:28:18,910 --> 00:28:25,726 the line voltage was reading 126 volts in an outlet in the kitchen. And microwave is on 243 00:28:25,726 --> 00:28:31,306 a separate circuit, by the way, from those outlets. And anyway, this was kind of interesting. When 244 00:28:31,306 --> 00:28:39,146 the microwave would go to cooking on high, it went, the line voltage went from 126 volts 245 00:28:39,146 --> 00:28:47,926 up to about 139. That's 13 volts higher. And so there's my question. You know, normally, 246 00:28:48,046 --> 00:28:52,146 like I said, I would think when you start drawing current, if anything, the voltage is going 247 00:28:52,146 --> 00:28:57,258 to drop because you're losing more. along the way somewhere because of the resistances and 248 00:28:57,258 --> 00:29:04,094 stuff. But in number of cases, it seems like the line voltage around here is going up when 249 00:29:04,094 --> 00:29:09,358 something is running. Very interesting to me. So I was thinking this was a good time for 250 00:29:09,399 --> 00:29:16,364 Jim, RFG, to be in here. He's the electrician. But anyway, that's my question. Why would 251 00:29:16,364 --> 00:29:23,090 those voltages be going up when something else turns on? Back to you, Mike, AF3Z. 252 00:29:29,070 --> 00:29:30,226 AS4CK 253 00:29:39,052 --> 00:29:46,234 All right, very good. Jim, that's a very interesting question, especially since they're on different 254 00:29:46,234 --> 00:29:50,025 circuits like you mentioned. So I'm interested to see what we have here. But I did hear a 255 00:29:50,025 --> 00:29:56,207 station come through here. But I didn't get your full call sign. So if you could, please 256 00:29:56,207 --> 00:30:06,649 come back with your call. And then we'll get to the question. This is W3MOW. W3MOW, KS4CK, 257 00:30:06,649 --> 00:30:12,030 Kilo, Sierra 4, Charlie Kilo. last name is Bruce. I'm breaking in here. I'm a little late to 258 00:30:12,030 --> 00:30:17,350 the party so I didn't check in. I have had this happen to my house and I have a full explanation 259 00:30:17,350 --> 00:30:17,930 if you'd like. 260 00:30:23,726 --> 00:30:30,046 Okay, Bruce, I got your call sign there. It's Kilo Sierra 4, Charlie Kilo. Thanks for checking 261 00:30:30,046 --> 00:30:34,646 in tonight. And yeah, absolutely, go ahead and get us started on the question. Over to you. 262 00:30:34,786 --> 00:30:35,966 is W3MOW. 263 00:30:39,374 --> 00:30:46,874 So the power coming to your house is 220. And with a function that ground is down the middle. 264 00:30:47,413 --> 00:30:54,614 And so it gets split into two halves in your panel. One side is 110 on the left leg, and 265 00:30:54,614 --> 00:31:04,354 one is 110 on the right leg. And if your ground isn't working right and the load pulls too 266 00:31:04,354 --> 00:31:09,925 much current on one side, the voltage goes up on the other side. So if you check other outlets 267 00:31:09,925 --> 00:31:14,659 in your house, bet some of them are going down. And what it really means is that you have 268 00:31:14,659 --> 00:31:25,140 a grounding issue. For me, it happened in my meter panel itself. So, and if it's as 269 00:31:25,140 --> 00:31:30,682 much as 13 volts, call Pico, get them out there right away. They'll hatch something and or 270 00:31:30,682 --> 00:31:36,937 get a line electrician out there to fix your ground. But the explanation for why it goes 271 00:31:36,937 --> 00:31:41,266 up on one side is... is lower in the other side of the panel. 272 00:31:54,706 --> 00:31:57,623 Bruce, you're still there. It seemed like you were still talking and you just cut out there. 273 00:31:57,623 --> 00:32:03,146 I don't know if you were done there. But if you had anything else, go ahead. 274 00:32:06,190 --> 00:32:06,610 you 275 00:32:21,528 --> 00:32:25,941 Okay, very good. Yeah, I did hear it then. Your signal just got a little bit noisy, so 276 00:32:25,941 --> 00:32:32,275 maybe that's why I thought you just cut out right away. very good. Thank you for your 277 00:32:32,275 --> 00:32:38,079 comment, for sure. Do we have any other stations with comments for Jim? Please call now. This 278 00:32:38,079 --> 00:32:46,254 is W3MOW. WA3VEE Michael A. Check-in, but also a couple comments for Jim. W? 279 00:32:50,862 --> 00:32:54,794 Okay, very good, Ron. Thanks for checking in tonight. I did see your email, so I you'd 280 00:32:54,794 --> 00:33:00,317 be coming in. Hopefully your phone call with your son went well. So glad to have you in 281 00:33:00,317 --> 00:33:07,541 here. And yeah, absolutely get to your comments. Ron, and feel free to ask Jim some questions. 282 00:33:07,541 --> 00:33:12,043 I know you may have not heard his full question there, but if you did, that's fine. But feel 283 00:33:12,043 --> 00:33:17,186 free to dig in if you need to. And then Chuck will get to you as well. So we'll turn it over 284 00:33:17,186 --> 00:33:26,178 to Ron first, W-A-3-V-E. This is W-3. Good Mike and yeah again, oh it was a great phone 285 00:33:26,178 --> 00:33:31,878 call. just that he and I have not caught up in a long time so thanks for the indulgence 286 00:33:31,878 --> 00:33:35,738 of me getting in here late and if you don't mind with your permission I'll turn it right 287 00:33:35,738 --> 00:33:41,038 over to Chuck. Yeah to put a finer point on what Bruce said, Bruce it's good to hear you. 288 00:33:41,238 --> 00:33:45,818 Great to have you here on the workbench and I'm glad you came to our field day. That's 289 00:33:45,818 --> 00:33:50,620 really tremendous and glad you got a chance to operate. Yeah, to put a finer point on what 290 00:33:50,620 --> 00:33:58,128 you're saying, 240 comes in and it does split and it sounds like Jim, you have a bad neutral. 291 00:33:58,128 --> 00:34:03,324 A bad neutral. What do you think about that, Chuck, if I might pass it right over to you? 292 00:34:03,324 --> 00:34:15,700 NA3CW WA3VE. Yes, yes, yes, NA3CW. You've got a bad neutral, which probably means 293 00:34:15,700 --> 00:34:22,207 a loose connection. And this is potentially dangerous, especially to your appliances. 294 00:34:23,388 --> 00:34:31,854 And it could be anywhere from your service entrance, the meter box, your main panel, 295 00:34:31,854 --> 00:34:44,471 a bus, either into your neutral bus. in the panel, et cetera. But yeah, you've got an 296 00:34:44,471 --> 00:34:53,146 unstable neutral. And so as Bruce said, voltage, if it's going up on one side of the line, it's 297 00:34:53,146 --> 00:34:57,389 being pulled down on the other side of the line. And the neutral is supposed to take up that 298 00:34:57,389 --> 00:35:06,654 difference, but it's not. excuse me. And Bruce, very glad to hear you on here, as well as 299 00:35:06,654 --> 00:35:15,388 Ron. This is not something to put off. yeah, you need an electrician in there that can 300 00:35:15,948 --> 00:35:22,533 check out from end to end because it could be in any one of those places or more actually. 301 00:35:22,533 --> 00:35:29,609 So, yeah, that's just my comment. Everything that has been said is absolutely correct and 302 00:35:29,609 --> 00:35:36,105 been there, done that, and it can be anywhere in the chain back into your service. So... 303 00:35:36,105 --> 00:35:45,394 definitely something to get checked out pronto. Back to Mike. W3MOW NA3CW. 304 00:35:50,976 --> 00:35:55,573 Okay, very good. Well, we have three concurrences, so I'll take that as complete. We'll send it 305 00:35:55,573 --> 00:36:01,522 back to Jim for follow-up if you have anything. Jim, AF3Z, this is W3MOW. 306 00:36:05,166 --> 00:36:14,061 Okay, AAF3Z, thank you all very much, Bruce and Ron and Chuck and Mike. Yeah, and there 307 00:36:14,061 --> 00:36:21,394 were a couple of appliances, a clothes dryer and a microwave and various things behaving 308 00:36:21,394 --> 00:36:26,728 sort of strangely. And so I was starting to wonder about this could be a service issue 309 00:36:26,728 --> 00:36:33,001 of some sort, but I didn't know what. But very good, thank you all, that is very, very helpful 310 00:36:33,001 --> 00:36:38,233 and I will get on it. to get you split, I don't think I'll call him out tonight. Thanks back 311 00:36:38,233 --> 00:36:42,347 to you Mike, AF3Z. from Bruce. 312 00:36:47,726 --> 00:36:50,784 All right, very good, Jim. Thanks for checking in tonight, and thanks for your question, of 313 00:36:50,784 --> 00:36:53,462 course. And go ahead, Bruce, with your follow-up. 314 00:37:00,226 --> 00:37:05,919 Yeah, it may also be all the way back to the transformer. My brother had this happen in 315 00:37:05,919 --> 00:37:11,159 South Carolina and his neighbor was having problems too. So one other action for you 316 00:37:11,159 --> 00:37:15,674 is to just check with the neighbor if you've got a shared transformer on the pole and find 317 00:37:15,674 --> 00:37:21,107 out if it's happening to them. It could be the neutral coming off the transformer. So 318 00:37:21,107 --> 00:37:23,058 good luck to you, KS4CK. 319 00:37:30,082 --> 00:37:33,454 Very good Bruce, thanks for your follow up and again thanks for checking in and getting us 320 00:37:33,454 --> 00:37:37,776 started on that question tonight. And for all those listening out there, see, you asked a 321 00:37:37,776 --> 00:37:42,529 question on the workbench and it could save your bacon. So don't hesitate to ask questions. 322 00:37:42,529 --> 00:37:46,211 With that being said, that was our only question on the docket so let's see if we can call it 323 00:37:46,211 --> 00:37:52,635 to the airwaves if we have any additional check-ins for the workbench or if you have any questions 324 00:37:52,635 --> 00:37:57,878 out there, if you're kind of listening out there, haven't checked in before, now's a good time 325 00:37:57,878 --> 00:38:02,691 to do it. We'd love to chat with you, love to get your questions. So if you'd like to check 326 00:38:02,691 --> 00:38:07,758 into the 985 workbenches for all check-ins, RF and digital check-ins, All Star EchoLink, 327 00:38:07,758 --> 00:38:13,746 if you'd like to check into the workbench, please call now. This is W3MOW. 328 00:38:21,452 --> 00:38:23,922 Mike, WA3V. 329 00:38:28,394 --> 00:38:29,548 Absolutely, Ron, go ahead. 330 00:38:32,686 --> 00:38:36,149 just to leave a little bit of pause there just in case somebody didn't need to check in or 331 00:38:36,149 --> 00:38:44,697 wanted to check in. But this is WA3VE. Folks, check your email from Joe. There was, I just 332 00:38:44,697 --> 00:38:56,147 learned about this this afternoon, but there is a commercial space firm, AST Space Mobile, 333 00:38:56,147 --> 00:39:02,538 that I think they are affiliated with Starlink. but they want to, they are petitioning the 334 00:39:02,538 --> 00:39:09,538 Federal Communications Commission to use a portion of the 70 centimeter band for their communications, 335 00:39:09,738 --> 00:39:18,258 their commercial communications for satellite and particularly in the 430, 440 region. As 336 00:39:18,258 --> 00:39:25,838 you, I'm sure know, the 70 centimeter band is not only repeaters and simplex, but it's also. 337 00:39:26,446 --> 00:39:32,266 satellite communications for us and it's also most importantly things like links and frequencies 338 00:39:32,266 --> 00:39:40,566 that we use for things like All-Star. They're already using five satellites out there on 339 00:39:40,566 --> 00:39:47,666 that band and causing interference in Europe to 70 centimeter operations over there. I don't 340 00:39:47,666 --> 00:39:53,786 know the allocation. Evidently they want to be a secondary allocation on 70 centimeters 341 00:39:53,786 --> 00:39:59,475 secondary to us. However, that still could cause some interference and it's a step in the wrong 342 00:39:59,475 --> 00:40:07,468 direction. On your email, you will see some verbiage about how you can respond to this. 343 00:40:07,468 --> 00:40:13,069 Unfortunately, today is the last day, so if you can get in, several people have already 344 00:40:13,069 --> 00:40:19,621 done this. I have verbiage out there. You're welcome to use it, absolutely. Cut and paste 345 00:40:19,621 --> 00:40:27,256 the link at the bottom to the FCC. and consider trying to protect our spectrum. Like I said, 346 00:40:27,256 --> 00:40:32,981 this could be a very slippery slope. I don't remember seeing anything from the ARRL on this, 347 00:40:32,981 --> 00:40:39,167 but I just wanted to make people aware of this as a QST to get out there and actually try 348 00:40:39,167 --> 00:40:45,703 to respond to this. If anybody has any questions, I'll be around after the workbench, not to 349 00:40:45,703 --> 00:40:50,038 tie things up here, but basically I wanted to make sure that got out there. Back to you Mike. 350 00:40:52,538 --> 00:40:52,938 W3MOWWA3VE. 351 00:40:59,416 --> 00:41:05,707 Very good, Ron, and yeah, thank you for talking about it. It's obviously very important for 352 00:41:05,707 --> 00:41:13,450 our hobby to ensure that we get to keep what little we have. So yeah, Ron, I appreciate 353 00:41:13,450 --> 00:41:18,011 you standing by afterwards for questions as well. Good to have you as a resource when 354 00:41:18,011 --> 00:41:25,143 it comes to that kind of stuff. Switching gears back to the workbench. We did just call out 355 00:41:25,143 --> 00:41:30,584 for some check-ins. We didn't get any, so. With the check-ins that we do have, now's your 356 00:41:30,584 --> 00:41:36,657 last time. If you have a question before we close down the workbench tonight, if you have 357 00:41:36,657 --> 00:41:40,229 a question, we can get an answer. We've got plenty of time. based on all the check-ins 358 00:41:40,229 --> 00:41:44,010 we have tonight, if you have a question, if you want to ask it tonight, now's your time. 359 00:41:44,331 --> 00:41:49,714 Go. This is W3MOW. 3MFB with a comment. 360 00:41:56,846 --> 00:42:05,486 Go ahead, Mike. Taking up what Ron said and Joe blasts us with an email about the petition 361 00:42:05,486 --> 00:42:12,646 there and thanks Ron for letting us copy and paste, hi-high. But, which I did do, but just 362 00:42:12,646 --> 00:42:25,226 so you know the length that in Joe's email from the UK, the FCC filing number is 25-201. 25-201. 363 00:42:25,494 --> 00:42:29,895 Make sure you go to the link or just write down what I just said because when you go to the 364 00:42:29,895 --> 00:42:38,087 bottom of Joe's email and it takes you right to the FCC petition area, by reading the email 365 00:42:38,087 --> 00:42:46,250 and you don't click the first link, you don't know what the heck to put in there. So it's 366 00:42:46,250 --> 00:42:54,662 25-201. So that was my comment. So yeah, I suggest everybody should do that in our group 367 00:42:54,662 --> 00:42:58,797 here. W3MOWW3MFP, thank you. 368 00:43:06,702 --> 00:43:10,082 All right, very good, Mike. Yeah, thanks for that comment there. I'm going to go on here 369 00:43:10,082 --> 00:43:18,662 and do that here after we close down the workbench. All right, so with that being said, it looks 370 00:43:18,662 --> 00:43:24,422 like we did not have any additional check-ins or additional questions, which is fine. It's 371 00:43:24,422 --> 00:43:29,102 a beautiful Monday evening here in Chester County, in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, so I don't 372 00:43:29,102 --> 00:43:33,742 blame people for being away from the radio tonight. But this is one of my shorter workbenches, 373 00:43:33,742 --> 00:43:39,287 so I'm a little upset. So I have a redemption in about six weeks from now to have the workbench 374 00:43:39,287 --> 00:43:47,469 go longer But that'll be the futures problem but anyway We're going to close the workbench 375 00:43:47,469 --> 00:43:51,390 at this time since we already asked for additional check-ins and questions So I do want to thank 376 00:43:51,390 --> 00:43:55,451 all stations for checking into the workbench tonight. It was great to hear all your comments 377 00:43:55,451 --> 00:44:02,953 about amateur radio and It just goes to show everyone listening who did not check in tonight 378 00:44:02,953 --> 00:44:07,554 how active we are here on 985 And just the knowledge level that's here on 985 when it 379 00:44:07,554 --> 00:44:13,754 comes to radio, electrical stuff, car stuff, woodworking stuff, there's a resource here 380 00:44:13,754 --> 00:44:20,414 on 985 for you. So it's good to hear all that stuff, even if it's not amateur radio related. 381 00:44:21,274 --> 00:44:28,714 So thank you all for sharing your comments tonight. Also, a very big thank you to Joe, W3GMS, for 382 00:44:28,714 --> 00:44:33,214 allowing us to use the repeater for the workbench. And then also, please remember to join us this 383 00:44:33,214 --> 00:44:37,685 Thursday at 8 p.m. for the 985 Thursday night roundtable. And I believe at this time we're 384 00:44:37,685 --> 00:44:44,158 still looking for a host since Jack was not able to do it due to a scheduling conflict. 385 00:44:44,158 --> 00:44:49,090 So if you'd like to host the workbench this Thursday, and maybe it's your first time hosting, 386 00:44:49,090 --> 00:44:56,143 we'd still love to have you. We could give you a quick little tutorial. any mistakes 387 00:44:56,143 --> 00:45:03,798 you make along the way will just be for fun and for learning. And no one will. will know 388 00:45:03,798 --> 00:45:08,638 the wiser. So if you're interested in doing that, just reach out to Jim, AF3Z, and he will 389 00:45:08,638 --> 00:45:12,938 get you on the schedule for this Thursday. Or if you're a first timer, he'll help you out, 390 00:45:12,958 --> 00:45:18,538 give you all the stuff you need to make a good host session for the roundtable. I'm sorry 391 00:45:18,538 --> 00:45:24,298 if I said workbench. So that being said, I wish everyone a great week ahead, 7-3 for now. And 392 00:45:24,298 --> 00:45:29,658 again, continue to use the repeater tonight if you have questions for Ron regarding the 393 00:45:29,658 --> 00:45:35,218 70 centimeter deal with that company. Or if you just want to the rag and keep Joe's PICO 394 00:45:35,218 --> 00:45:40,758 bill nice and high, that would be great. So feel free to continue the conversation once 395 00:45:40,758 --> 00:45:46,498 we close up the net here. So 7-3 all, it was a pleasure hosting tonight and have a great 396 00:45:46,498 --> 00:45:53,598 week. This is W3MOW and I'll be clear for the evening. Good job Mike. I just have one quick 397 00:45:53,598 --> 00:45:59,218 statement about the link that I sent around. W3GMS, let me see if I have it. 398 00:46:06,594 --> 00:46:13,316 that you want to focus on is the link to the FCC site at the bottom of the email right near 399 00:46:13,436 --> 00:46:20,568 Ron's Cut and Paste Burbage. The UK link was just for general information. That was sent 400 00:46:20,568 --> 00:46:28,340 to me with some other verbiage and I just passed that along. But do not let that UK link trip 401 00:46:28,340 --> 00:46:34,910 you up. It's very, very simple. If you click the link at the bottom to the FCC site, It 402 00:46:34,910 --> 00:46:40,621 automatically has the docket number and everything filled in. You just got to put your particulars. 403 00:46:40,621 --> 00:46:47,474 So it's very, very, very simple. 738W3GMS and a great job, Mike. 404 00:46:53,346 --> 00:46:56,626 WA3VEKC30K 405 00:46:59,662 --> 00:47:04,754 First of all, Joe, thank you very, very much for putting that out there. Like I said, I 406 00:47:04,754 --> 00:47:12,208 wish I had more notice, but I had just gotten that in an email. And I said, holy smokes, 407 00:47:12,208 --> 00:47:17,731 you got to be kidding me. I don't know why we didn't know about this sooner. So my thanks 408 00:47:17,731 --> 00:47:24,134 to you, Joe, very sincerely. KC3OOKWA3VEE. Good evening, Bill. 409 00:47:27,278 --> 00:47:32,558 Good evening Ron and good evening Joe. Yeah Ron, just wanted to mention, I don't know if 410 00:47:32,558 --> 00:47:41,634 you saw, I know you've been busy, I sent you an email. email I sent to the ARRL and I 411 00:47:41,634 --> 00:47:42,558 can tell you that there's 412 00:48:01,718 --> 00:48:07,733 email. see where we get a response and I had the same thought you did. Why the last day 413 00:48:07,733 --> 00:48:14,583 of standing out. Very interesting. Other thing I did look up... 414 00:48:55,534 --> 00:49:01,098 to respond to your email. did see it and I think that's a brilliant idea to send that 415 00:49:01,098 --> 00:49:07,443 to the advocacy and regulatory section. And it's like, hey guys, this is a major, this 416 00:49:07,443 --> 00:49:15,769 could be a major big deal. It might be a bite out of the 70 centimeter band, but there's 417 00:49:15,769 --> 00:49:21,934 probably more bites and there's a heavy appetite for those bites out there, to use a metaphor. 418 00:49:22,670 --> 00:49:29,874 So this is the thing. And I know I'm fighting a one-person battle here when I say this, but... 419 00:49:29,874 --> 00:49:37,398 it may not necessarily help, but it could hurt. We keep referring to this as a hobby. And 420 00:49:37,418 --> 00:49:43,921 it is the amateur radio service. Welcome to amateur radio, not welcome to the hobby. Please. 421 00:49:43,921 --> 00:49:50,265 I mean, as these people hear this, they see this, like I said, that in itself is not 422 00:49:50,265 --> 00:49:55,178 going to prevent them from doing this. But if we keep referring to it as a hobby, and I'm 423 00:49:55,178 --> 00:50:01,374 just evangelizing myself here, and I'm sorry to do that. But the thing is, it cringe every 424 00:50:01,374 --> 00:50:07,360 time I hear that because they hear it too. And oh, these guys, man, these are like car 425 00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:13,086 guys. It's like they each have a Daytona 500 in their backyard. They've got all these frequencies 426 00:50:13,086 --> 00:50:19,601 that we want. My goodness gracious, it's just a hobby. OK. Yes, the amateur radio service. 427 00:50:19,601 --> 00:50:28,336 And we all know that it's more than a hobby, anyway, enough said on that. you very rarely 428 00:50:28,336 --> 00:50:35,190 ever hear me mention that, at least in my regard. But good idea on getting that up to the regulatory 429 00:50:35,190 --> 00:50:43,854 guy. It's interesting. I'll keep it as positive as I can. But it's interesting that we have 430 00:50:43,854 --> 00:50:52,062 to tell them about this. instead of us hearing from them about this. But in many ways I'm 431 00:50:52,062 --> 00:50:57,706 not surprised, sadly. But yeah, very good. I thought that was my goodness. I didn't think 432 00:50:57,706 --> 00:51:03,890 of that. That was a great idea for you to do that. KC3OOKWA3VE. 433 00:51:08,110 --> 00:51:11,890 see how it goes. One of the things that I'm curious about is who formed... 434 00:51:28,814 --> 00:51:34,994 In either case, we'll see how it goes. 435 00:51:44,322 --> 00:51:44,584 Yeah. 436 00:52:09,832 --> 00:52:17,107 I was trying to get into the shack today, but we had an animal day here, a good animal day. 437 00:52:17,107 --> 00:52:25,633 I took the kiddies to the vet this morning for their final shots at their age. So they're 438 00:52:25,713 --> 00:52:31,567 rabies and their final vaccine shots. So they don't go back to the vet unless there are 439 00:52:31,567 --> 00:52:37,922 issues for another year, which is great. And then we ended up picking up a Pomeranian. 440 00:52:38,638 --> 00:52:43,659 for my sister-in-law. So she is back to having two dogs, which is what she's always wanted, 441 00:52:44,580 --> 00:52:51,132 which is what she had back in Ohio. And so now we are outnumbered here. We humans in 442 00:52:51,132 --> 00:52:57,721 the house are outnumbered with animals, which is just wonderful. I've got three of them 443 00:52:57,721 --> 00:53:03,125 right here, right on the console. So it was a very busy day, so I did not get a chance 444 00:53:03,125 --> 00:53:07,973 to go back and look back on the email myself. But as soon as I saw this, said, you know, 445 00:53:07,973 --> 00:53:13,406 we got to this out to the 985 group. And like I said, Joe was very, very gracious in getting 446 00:53:13,406 --> 00:53:19,115 it out there and really appreciate that. May not do any good, but let's put it this way. 447 00:53:19,115 --> 00:53:28,254 It's certainly, what's that saying? All things go wrong when good men do nothing. let's see 448 00:53:28,254 --> 00:53:35,378 what happens. But thanks again, Bill. I really appreciate it. KC3OOKWA3. 449 00:53:40,696 --> 00:53:42,744 Yeah, I guess we'll have to hurry up and wait. 450 00:54:08,686 --> 00:54:17,438 ATC 3-0. I know I wish I got a discount, but I do have pet insurance, so that does help 451 00:54:17,438 --> 00:54:24,798 some. There's no doubt about that. So, I wouldn't do this without that, that's for sure. These 452 00:54:24,798 --> 00:54:29,418 guys, I was joking with them at the vet. I said, you know, I have to take a second mortgage 453 00:54:29,418 --> 00:54:34,298 out. Well, I don't have any mortgage anymore, but I have to take a loan out to be able to 454 00:54:34,298 --> 00:54:39,478 feed these guys. Especially Kitten and Sarah are just really, really ravenous right now, 455 00:54:39,478 --> 00:54:45,828 but... They're growing like leaps and bounds and it just it really really makes a house 456 00:54:45,828 --> 00:54:51,102 a home There's no doubt about it and if that said wow gee Oh, there's a ham radio connection 457 00:54:51,102 --> 00:54:55,695 here, too By the way, believe it or not believe it or not, you know me there's always some 458 00:54:55,695 --> 00:55:01,499 you'll be talking about Knitting and there's a ham radio connection. Well, there's there's 459 00:55:01,499 --> 00:55:07,624 one here, Anyway, the vet tech said well three three cats. I is that too much I said no, it's 460 00:55:07,624 --> 00:55:12,826 just right So it turns out, and she says, well, I have three cats too. So anyway, that's cool. 461 00:55:13,466 --> 00:55:23,546 Anyway, it turns out that my vet has a 10-year-old just like Jack Costello. And so he is very 462 00:55:23,546 --> 00:55:31,226 interested in communication and STEM and everything else. So when the weather gets cooler, I will 463 00:55:31,226 --> 00:55:35,866 be getting together not only with Eric from County Commissioner's office and his daughter 464 00:55:35,866 --> 00:55:44,542 up at the site. but also with Katie McIntyre, our vet, and her son. So I will recr- you 465 00:55:44,542 --> 00:55:50,268 gotta laugh at this. We had the guy from the hardware store, and we have, you know, the 466 00:55:50,268 --> 00:55:54,481 vet up there, we got the commissioners, we got all kinds of people in off the street and everything. 467 00:55:54,481 --> 00:56:02,348 I will recruit anybody and anyone I can, no doubt about it, for Ham Radio. No question 468 00:56:02,348 --> 00:56:06,885 about it, so that was pretty cool. They didn't make it to field day because they had a lot 469 00:56:06,885 --> 00:56:15,259 of other family stuff going on, but they expressed regrets and she will have a... She will definitely 470 00:56:15,259 --> 00:56:19,882 have the link to the photographs. And I said focus on the videos for sure because that's 471 00:56:19,882 --> 00:56:26,885 where the action is. Be able to see some of our youth actually operating. KC3OOKWA3VE. 472 00:56:26,885 --> 00:56:37,818 Oh, that's great, Maybe you missed your calling, you should have been a recruiter in the service. 473 00:56:38,638 --> 00:56:44,758 You're doing a great job now, I'll have to get you a badge. Radio recruiter. 474 00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:15,312 Have a always a pleasure and again thanks for all your help with all the field day stuff 475 00:57:15,312 --> 00:57:19,410 really tremendous. True team, team effort. WA3VE.