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<v 0>Hope.

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<v 1>Community Church.

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<v 0>We're.

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<v 1>Gonna.

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<v 0>Let.

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<v 1>Lets

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come on.

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We sing your name in the dark and changes everything.

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We sing, we victory,

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looks like church. This is what living.

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<v 0>Looks.

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<v 1>Like. This is what freedom feels like.

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This is what heaven sounds like. We praise you.

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We praise you. This is what living looks like.

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This is what freedom feels like.

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This what heaven sounds like. We, you, we,

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you. This what living looks like.

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This is what freedom feels like.

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<v 0>This is what.

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<v 2>Heaven.

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<v 1>Sounds like.

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<v 0>We praise you. We you. This is what living,

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this is what this

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We praise you. Come on church. Praise him.

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We praise you. Come on. Give us some praise today.

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<v 2>Welcome to Hope Community Church. We are so glad that's you're here today.

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We're gonna continue to worship our faithful father today.

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He's a firm foundation. He's a God who keeps his promises to us.

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And we're gonna believe that together today as we continue to lift him up.

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Come on.

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<v 1>Let's declare

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I won't be.

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<v 0>So faithful, so

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powerful.

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thank you.

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He loves us. He loves us,

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loves

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us.

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<v 2>This church.

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<v 1>Oh he loves.

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<v 0>Us.

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<v 1>He.

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<v 0>Loves.

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<v 2>Just the voices.

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<v 0>He.

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<v 1>Come.

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<v 2>On. We're wrapped in the arms of the Father today.

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<v 1>Holy

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bow

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Church. Holy.

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<v 2>Sing

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down.

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<v 1>Above all and

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creation cry.

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<v 0>Holy.

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<v 1>Forgiven. If you've.

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<v 0>Been redeemed.

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<v 1>Sing the forever.

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forevers.

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Holy,

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holy,

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holy.

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above

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Holy. He's holy.

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Say Jesus

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to the

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holy. Come church. Lift your voice. He's holy.

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<v 1>You'll always

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what? He He

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Holy forever. Still holy.

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Be.

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<v 0>Holy.

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<v 1>Holy.

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Who church.

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<v 0>God

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be holy.

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forever. Holy, holy.

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Father.

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<v 2>You'll always be holy, holy,

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holy forever, Lord.

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<v 0>God.

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<v 2>We love you Lord. Thank you. Then no matter what we face,

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you are still on the throne. Lord, wherever we go, you are with us Lord.

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And we just thank you. Thank you tonight. God we love you Lord.

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And everyone said together church. Amen.

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<v 0>Holy love.

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<v 3>Amen. Amen. Amen. I don't know if he caught the word babe before you're seated.

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I don't know if he caught the words to that song,

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but man that reminds us that when we gather together in these times of worship,

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we are actually participating in something that is eternal.

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This worship service around the thrones been going on from all eternity past and

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will continue for the rest of eternity.

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And it's not a spectator sport.

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So I want to thank you for participating today in this eternal worship service.

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Hey, before you're seated,

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why don't you turn to one or two people and just welcome 'em to church today

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And you can take your seats. It is so good to see you.

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If you are joining us online, welcome. We are so glad that you're joining us.

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If you're new online, this is your first time joining us at Get Hope tv.

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We would love for you to just put the word new in the chat there because

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somebody would like to meet you and personally just reach out to you.

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If you are here in the room, and this is your first time with us at Hope Man,

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you're a special guest.

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We are thrilled that you're here and we would love to meet you after this

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service in an area that we call our next steps area out in the atrium.

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Stop by after the service and we'd like to learn your name.

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Just send you home with a small gift for showing up.

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Answer any questions that you have about taking next steps. But hey,

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one thing that's important to know about Hope Community Church,

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something that's super important to us is community impact,

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both here in the triangle and around the world.

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But one of the ways that we express that local impact here in the triangle is

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through something that we call Love Your Schools.

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This is an initiative we kicked off just about a year ago,

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last August as we were heading into the new school year.

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But it wasn't meant to be a one or a two week thing.

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It's meant to go on throughout the school year,

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even throughout the summer breaks and so on.

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We want this to be something that continues and we have practical ways of loving

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our school. In fact, one of those, if you've been around hope for a while,

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you've heard us talk about Backpack Buddies this last year alone through

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people's faithful giving of food through our incredible volunteers,

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we have had over 5,300 backpacks filled with food for food

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insecure homes.

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That's actually over 64,000 pounds of food. Yes.

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We actually weigh it crazy, huh?

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But that's so cool because it's making a local impact and there are many

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different ways that you can get involved and love your school.

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Actually at all of our campuses over the next week or two,

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we're gonna be doing things to practically love our school.

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You can check out more details on your campus Facebook page or at our

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campuses this weekend. At all of our next steps areas, we have, uh,

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forms that you can take with you physical forms that can help you know your

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kid's teacher more. Or even if you don't have children in school anymore,

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you have schools in your community and we want you to practically figure out how

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you can love those teachers, love those schools.

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There's blank thank you notes out there that we can bless teachers or school

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staff with. We want you to be involved. And by the way,

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one of the things we want to grow in this year is identifying and loving our

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teachers who call Hope Community Church Home.

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And so if you're a teacher here or if you're a teacher online,

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would you do us a favor and text the word teach to 7 2 9 8 9,

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teach to 7 2 9 8 9.

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And that way we can get to know you a little bit more. But teachers,

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you're heroes. We love you and we wanna support you.

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But if you are a teacher in the room, yeah, if you are a teacher,

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if you are a principal, if you're a school administrator,

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if you work for Wake County Public Schools in the central office,

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as if you are in the education world in any way whatsoever,

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I wanna ask you to stand your feet because we want to honor you and we

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want to pray for you. Come on, stand your feet. Thank you so much.

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Thank you so much. And those watching online, thank you. Hey, stay standing.

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I wanna pray for all of you. Let's pray. God,

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we just thank you for these amazing people. God,

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this is an incredible calling life calling that

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you've placed on these educators. And God,

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it is not an easy calling,

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but we know that through your grace and mercy you can make this calling

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incredibly rewarding.

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administrators, principals, even people who work at central offices,

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but they're doing it because they want to pour in to the lives of the

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next generation. God, we pray that you would bless this school. You,

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you would protect our schools and God that they would see life change

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through the different subjects they teach,

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through their interaction with students and families. And we pray God,

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that you would empower them to do it for the glory of God.

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And we pray all these things in Jesus' name and everyone said,

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amen. You may be seated. Well,

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we're excited to finish off this current series of Romans eight verse by verse.

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And we've got our good friend Jeff Vanderstelt who's going to come and give us a

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great message today. But before we do that,

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we've got a great story of community impact for you.

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<v 4>We had a call in February of last year with a lady that was wandering around the

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street. She was homeless, she had just been discharged from the hospital.

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She really had nowhere to go. She was just wandering around the street.

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She was carrying all of her belongings in, um, like plastic shopping bags.

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They out of their own pocket, they went and bought her food,

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change of clothes 'cause she was just a mess.

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Dirty clothes hadn't bathed or anything like that.

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her. At about the same time, pastor Doug had reached out to me and said, Hey,

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hope, hope wants to be involved in Apex. Is there anything we can do in Apex?

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And I said, matter of fact,

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uh, these bags filled with supplies, uh, that could get somebody through, uh,

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at least a day, probably a weekend. And he said, absolutely.

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I think that's something we could help out with. And so we, we brainstorm and,

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and we felt like the best thing was to present it to my,

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the team that I serve on in Kids City. And they were all very responsive.

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I gave 'em a list of what we needed and told 'em basically I needed a bag and

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toiletries, hygiene products, stuff like that.

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One of them even got their small group involved.

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And so their small group donated a bunch of items.

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Also included in the bag is a list of resources and ministries.

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They can call those resources to get longer term help down the road if they need

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to.

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And I call them hope for the moment bags because I believe that in that moment

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we're providing hope and dignity for people, um, that don't have it.

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We ran through 'em way faster than I expected.

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It's been less than a a year really that we've had 'em available and we've

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already gone through close to 20 of them.

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<v 5>It's cool to see the way that God took a simple need in the moment

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and spoke to Brian's heart and then Brian couldn't meet that need,

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but he knew people that could meet that need. Gosh,

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we could see this going from community to community and police department to

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police department.

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<v 4>Pretty much every single person that, uh,

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one of these bags has been given to their responses.

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Nobody's ever done anything like this for me before. As far as I know,

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no one that we've given one of these bags to have we had a repeat call for

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service? Have we had to arrest or anything else?

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I think it's all just about making yourself available. Um,

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and and yielding to what God wants to do through you in your position and not

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seeing yourself as insignificant. Um, but if you just yield to the Lord,

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he'll do great things through you and through the church.

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I even believe that God gave me the name for the bags. You know,

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and just that impact and the fact that a government agency,

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the police department is using something like hope for the moment and they don't

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even realize it. That's how impactful it is for me.

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That we are literally a police agency,

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is giving people hope and not just arresting them.

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We're solving a problem and we're leaving people better than we found them.

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<v 7>Such a good story. It's so good to be with you guys again.

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I don't know if you were with me when I was here last,

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but I'm so glad to be back with you. It's such a joy to partner with you.

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I'm from Seattle, if you don't know that. So it's a big distance,

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but it's worth it. I'm so glad to be with you guys and I'm really feel honored,

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honestly and privileged that I get to bring this series to a close.

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Like that's a big deal. I felt like, wow,

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you really want me to be the one who does that. And yet I,

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I'm so excited to because the end of this chapter, Romans eight,

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Paul ends it with this kind of like clarion call for you to know

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all that you have all that the gospel and titles you to

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believe and live into He,

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he wants you to be so confident in it that regardless of what anybody

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says about you does to you or even you yourself do,

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he wants you to know that none of that's gonna cancel out what God has already

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done for you in Christ. And that's where we're gonna end here. In fact,

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there's this deep well of blessing that he's gonna in just a few

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verses say a whole lot about. But before we do that,

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I wanna tell you a little story about a guy named Peter Deca. Uh,

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he was actually a Russian immigrant who, uh,

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fled Russia in 1911 to go to America to

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escape the communist revolution.

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He ended up going to Moody Bible Institute and he was trained,

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he became a pretty effective minister of the gospel,

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saw incredible fruit in America and Russia, as many people came to faith.

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But he tells the story of his journey and how his parents saved up all this

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money and they were not wealthy, they're pretty poor.

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a boat ticket basically to get across the ocean.

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They had no money, uh, to send him with.

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He had only like a loaf of bread that was pretty stale that his mom stuffed in

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the, the backpack just to make sure he had something to,

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to consume while he was on the boat.

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And he tells a story of like looking in at the dining room and wishing he could

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have the meals that the people were having. And over time the sailors said,

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you know, like we can help you a little bit.

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to eat with you.

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And it wasn't nearly as good as what he would've got in the dining hall,

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but that he still got some food. And the crazy thing is,

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is that it wasn't until the last day on his journey that someone actually

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pointed out that his ticket included three meals a day.

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And he said, if I could have read the ticket, he wasn't able,

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if I could have just read the ticket, I would've known what I had.

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And I think that's what Paul wants us to end this series with, is like,

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do you understand that the gospel's not just about a ticket to heaven,

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it's about all the other things that are true for you now in

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this moment as we journey toward it.

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And so I just wanna pray and ask that the spirit would help you and I to let

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the, these truths sink so deeply in us that they would capture our affections

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and lead us to a,

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a way of living that looks a lot more like what God has saved you for.

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that maybe today will be the day you receive his gift. So let's pray.

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Father I I'm

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even as I think about the things I'm going to say

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that you gave the Apostle Paul the ability to write down by your spirit,

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I feel a little bit overwhelmed

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because it's so good. And Lord,

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I pray that your spirit would help us not just to think of these things I'm

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going to look at in the scriptures that we're gonna see together as just good

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ideas or facts. But Lord, that they would, they would pierce our heart,

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they would capture our affections that would transform the way we live.

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So ask that you do that by your spirit for your glory

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and our good and joy in Jesus name. Amen.

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So Paul starts, we're in Romans 8 31,

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what shall we say to these things? If God is for us,

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who can be against us?

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He didn't spare his own son but he gave him up for us all.

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How will he not also with him graciously give us all things?

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Who shall bring any charge against God's elect?

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It's God who justifies, who is to condemn Christ.

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Jesus is the one who died more than that.

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He was raised who's at the right hand of the of God.

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He who is inter indeed interceding for us who shall separate us from the love of

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Christ shall tribulation or distress or persecution or famine or nakedness

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or danger or sword as it is written for your sake.

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We're being killed all the day long.

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We're being regarded as sheep to be slaughtered. No, in all these things,

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we are more than conquerors through him who loved us

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for I'm sure that neither death nor life nor angels nor rulers,

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nor things present nor things to come, nor powers nor height, nor debt,

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nor anything else in all creation,

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will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord.

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This is God's word.

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The very first statement Paul makes is what shall we say to these things?

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And the question is, what things is Paul referring to?

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Now I think in a grander sense,

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he's referring to everything he said from chapter one to chapter eight.

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And it just a, a run through. These are some big ideas,

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but we were in rebellion to God.

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We were standing in judgment because of our sin.

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We were unable to do anything to save ourselves no matter how religious we are.

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God revealed that the answer is the righteousness of Christ who not only lived

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the life we couldn't live but died the death in our place for our sin.

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And God didn't wait for us to figure it out. But he came after us.

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He pursued us. He called us. He chose us,

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he adopted us, he justified us.

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He did all this work in Christ so that it would be by faith that we would get

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this not by our works,

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that we would get this and as a guarantee that it's really the true deal and

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that it really works. He puts his spirit into our lives to be a, a,

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an indicator that we really are God's children.

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That we really can trust him to finish what he started.

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Paul kind of summarizes all that in five undeniable affirmations.

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As John Stot likes to call them. He, he said this,

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these five affirmations are God for new you,

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which means he loved you before you loved him and came after you,

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before you could come after him. He predestined you to become like Jesus.

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In other words, his end goal is that you'll be like Jesus Christ,

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perfectly perfected.

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But he starts by calling you to be his own.

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And then he justifies you so that you can have a relationship with a holy God.

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But then ultimately he glorifies you,

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making you just like Jesus in all the ways he which he glorifies the Father.

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That's the kind of the,

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the five undeniable statements that Paul just went through.

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And we probably went, you know,

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you probably went through that last time we were together.

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But Paul's answer to that question,

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what shall we say to all of this gets answered with five rhetorical

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questions.

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John sto likes to call them a five unanswerable questions.

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And, and the reason why is because the answer is no one and nothing. Okay?

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That's where we're gonna go. So if you wanna know the title of my message,

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it's no one and nothing, okay? You'll see what I mean by as that,

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as we go through it. So first off, here's the first question. And by the way,

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here's, here's my challenge to you. Uh, and even I would,

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I would strongly urge you to take this challenge up.

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I would love for you to memorize all five of these questions.

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I would love for you to rehearse them on a daily basis because they are the

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types of questions you're gonna need to state out loud in order to get through

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this life in a way that's confident that God is true to his word and that you're

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secure in it. Okay? So the first question is, if God is for us,

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who can be against us?

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Now notice he doesn't ask the question who is against us?

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'cause if you just ask that, we'd have a list, right? Minimally, you'd say,

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well, especially in his day, the world seems against us.

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We're experiencing persecution.

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But Paul also talks about this idea of the flesh, which is that that old nature,

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that indwelt sin, that that part of me that says,

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even though I know what I wanna do, I find myself not doing it. He says,

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that's against us. We're, we're fighting this war against the flesh.

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And we also know that Satan and all the dark rulers in the heavenly realms are

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against us. So it gets summed up in our enemies are the world,

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the flesh and the devil. So if he just had said, who's against us,

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we would've said, well, the world, the flesh and the devil.

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But he doesn't just say that. He says, if God is for us who is against us,

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that's really important. 'cause what he wants you to understand is yes,

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those are your enemies, but those enemies don't get to prevail, right?

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Because if God's for us, really who is against us, I mean the answer is no one,

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because God in Christ Jesus has already victoriously, overcome the world,

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has defeated sin, and has overcome Satan and death through his resurrection.

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So the reality is, if you're in Christ, you have the one who,

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who overcame your greatest enemies. So if he's for you,

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he's also gonna prevail for you over your enemies because your life is hidden in

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Christ, the one who overcame. So I, I want you to hear this,

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you and I are no longer victims, right? We're not just sitting around going,

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I'm not just helpless. I don't know if I'm, we can make it through. It's like,

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no, you have the one who is the victor who you are united with.

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If you're united with Christ,

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you're an heir of all that Christ is and all that Christ has done for you.

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Now, I I like to watch sports.

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I'm a bit of a fan of the Seattle Seahawks because I'm from Seattle and I

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don't know if you're like me, but whenever we lose, it's always the ref's fault,

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right? If,

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if you ever happen to follow me on Twitter during football season and I'm not

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being wise about what I put on Twitter,

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it's usually complaining about ref's bad calls. And I, I, I can fall into that.

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If, if it just the ref's had it together, we would always win.

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But I want you to imagine you're on a team where the refs are always gonna

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guarantee that you win. And every game, you know, I already know this is a win.

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'cause I already know the refs are on our side.

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And the reality is that is true for Christians. Like in the end,

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we always win in the end, Jesus will prevail in the end,

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if your faith is in Christ, you will make it at the end we will be victorious.

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Amen? Because here's the deal, no one is greater than God.

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So no one can stand against you because you are god's and God is more committed

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to his purposes for your life than you are that is true for you.

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So who, who, who's, who's against me? If God's for me and who's against me?

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No one, no one is against me.

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Ultimately that's not all. Question two, he goes on,

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he says he did not spare his own son, but he gave him up for us all.

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How will he not also with him graciously give us all

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things? Now, once again, Paul could have easily asked the question,

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will God not graciously give us all things? But he doesn't do that.

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He preface it with what he's already given us in Christ. Because I, my,

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I wonder if, if he would've just asked, won't he give us good things?

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We might go, well yeah,

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I mean he's generous but we shouldn't over presume on his generosity.

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And you know, maybe there's some things he won't give. And so most of us,

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we kind of have that internal debate about God's generosity and kindness.

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But he starts with what you've already been given, which is Jesus.

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And he uses this language who did not spare his own son.

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But so if you know the biblical story, you know where that phrase came from?

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That phrase came from a time where he called a man called Abraham,

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who he changed his name to Abraham because he was gonna become the father of

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many nations. If you know that story,

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you know that Abraham and Sarah were too old to have children and God

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miraculously promised that they would have a child and through that child there

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would be a a,

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a name that would get great and a nation that would become huge and a a means of

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blessing. All the other nations would come out of that,

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that kind of chain of events. And that child was Isaac.

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Yet as Isaac grew older, God asked Abraham to sacrifice his own son.

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And Abraham believed that God must be able to just raise him from the dead.

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So he was willing to do whatever God said 'cause he was gonna trust him with

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everything. And as he had Isaac on the altar to be sacrificed, God said,

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no, stop. I now know be that you were un,

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that you were willing to spare your own,

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to give up your own son 'cause you believe and trust in me that much.

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And so God provides a alternative sacrifice with a ram caught in the bush

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nearby. So you know that story and that's what Paul is referencing actually,

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that this idea that he who did not spare his own son,

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your mind would go back to,

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oh that's about Abraham and how he speared his own God spirited him from

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actually having to give up his own son. And if there was no Isaac,

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there'd be no nation Israel. If there's no nation in Israel,

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there is no offspring ultimately that comes in the name of Jesus who becomes the

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ultimate savior.

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And Paul's using this to help us understand just like Abraham was willing to

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give up his own son but didn't have to,

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God was willing to give up his own son and he did. And if there's no Abraham,

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there's no blessing. But if there's no Jesus, there's no salvation.

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So he wants to make it really clear. This is God telling you,

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not only will he be faithful to his word,

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but he loves you so much that he will give you the most costly gift

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possible His own son, for you and me,

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Octavius Winslow

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was correct to write who delivered up Jesus to die.

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Not Judas for money, not Pilate for fear,

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not the Jews for envy,

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but the father for love because he loved you that much.

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See, Paul is arguing from the greater to the lesser's thing.

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If he was willing to give you Jesus,

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you can be absolutely certain He will give you everything else that you need.

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Why would he waste Jesus on a people he is not gonna provide for?

472
00:44:40.085 --> 00:44:42.745
And Jesus God gave you everything.

473
00:44:44.114 --> 00:44:46.715
So why won't he give you everything else?

474
00:44:48.364 --> 00:44:49.885
See the crosses the guarantee that the God,

475
00:44:49.886 --> 00:44:54.805
that the God we worship who sent his son will continue to generously provide

476
00:44:54.806 --> 00:44:59.585
according to your needs. So do you lack right now? You go like, man,

477
00:44:59.665 --> 00:45:04.665
I i need this. I I I I'm struggling God, are you gonna be a good provider?

478
00:45:04.975 --> 00:45:06.665
Come to him. Ask him,

479
00:45:07.844 --> 00:45:11.585
be confident that the crosses the evidence that you have a generous God is

480
00:45:11.586 --> 00:45:14.645
willing to give you everything you need. Jesus.

481
00:45:14.965 --> 00:45:18.045
And and James later both say you don't have because you don't ask,

482
00:45:20.364 --> 00:45:24.705
ask him. And I want you to hear this asking is actually an act of worship.

483
00:45:26.305 --> 00:45:29.225
'cause there's three big things that are, you're saying when you ask one,

484
00:45:29.605 --> 00:45:33.585
I'm in need of God. And anytime you say I'm in need of God,

485
00:45:33.586 --> 00:45:37.545
you're at the beginning point of the good news of the gospel taking root inside

486
00:45:37.546 --> 00:45:40.385
of you. Second, you're saying, I believe God's rich.

487
00:45:41.565 --> 00:45:45.535
Like I think he has a lot, he owns everything. And third, you're saying,

488
00:45:45.614 --> 00:45:49.005
I also think he's generous. Anytime you ask,

489
00:45:49.006 --> 00:45:53.045
you are saying those three things through your act of worship. I I,

490
00:45:53.046 --> 00:45:56.165
I don't know about you but like I loved Christmas time with our kids in our home

491
00:45:56.166 --> 00:45:58.445
because especially when they're little now they're,

492
00:45:58.446 --> 00:46:01.125
we have two adult kids and one who's almost out of high school.

493
00:46:01.445 --> 00:46:04.045
She's got one year left and but when they were young, you know,

494
00:46:04.315 --> 00:46:07.725
they would just ask for stuff at Christmas time and sometimes it just seemed

495
00:46:07.726 --> 00:46:11.165
ridiculous. Like you must think I'm loaded .

496
00:46:12.545 --> 00:46:15.844
But what I loved about it is that they actually, one thought I was a rich dad.

497
00:46:16.585 --> 00:46:19.925
Second they thought I was really generous and loved to give good gifts.

498
00:46:20.545 --> 00:46:23.525
And what I do really love about that and we did our best to try and give 'em a

499
00:46:23.526 --> 00:46:26.205
lot of what they asked for. But it framed in them,

500
00:46:26.905 --> 00:46:31.364
if I a dad who's broken and not perfect

501
00:46:31.975 --> 00:46:32.925
would do this for you,

502
00:46:33.025 --> 00:46:37.205
how much more will your heavenly father do this for you as evidenced by him

503
00:46:37.206 --> 00:46:39.285
already giving you the greatest gift? Jesus.

504
00:46:40.665 --> 00:46:42.245
So I just wanna say to you tonight maybe,

505
00:46:42.255 --> 00:46:44.045
maybe some of you haven't even received that gift.

506
00:46:44.445 --> 00:46:48.364
'cause I would say if you haven't received the gift of Jesus Christ for your own

507
00:46:48.365 --> 00:46:52.364
forgiveness of sins and for you to be made right with God and for you to have a

508
00:46:52.365 --> 00:46:55.725
relationship with God that changes everything and for you to have a hope that is

509
00:46:55.726 --> 00:46:58.245
a future forever with God in a new heaven and new earth,

510
00:46:58.344 --> 00:46:59.445
if you haven't received that gift,

511
00:46:59.675 --> 00:47:01.285
what I'm saying doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

512
00:47:02.425 --> 00:47:05.795
You have to receive that first in order to actually believe the rest is gonna be

513
00:47:05.796 --> 00:47:08.675
real. So maybe that's where you're at today. You's gotta go,

514
00:47:08.676 --> 00:47:12.555
I gotta come to Jesus and go like I just receive you and all that you've done

515
00:47:12.556 --> 00:47:15.555
for me. I want that gift right now.

516
00:47:17.094 --> 00:47:20.635
And there's others of you who maybe it's like I just forgot how generous he was

517
00:47:21.535 --> 00:47:25.795
and I need that today. So I'll go back to him and ask again.

518
00:47:27.055 --> 00:47:30.925
Question three, who shall bring any charge against God's elect?

519
00:47:31.275 --> 00:47:33.965
It's God who justifies. So what is he saying?

520
00:47:33.966 --> 00:47:38.725
He's bringing you into the imaginary courtroom where you regularly

521
00:47:38.985 --> 00:47:43.325
and probably likely on a regular basis experience accusation where you're,

522
00:47:43.425 --> 00:47:46.645
you feel like there's charges brought against you maybe 'cause of what you know

523
00:47:46.646 --> 00:47:48.085
you've done or failed to do.

524
00:47:48.465 --> 00:47:50.485
But he's bringing you into that courtroom and he is going,

525
00:47:50.765 --> 00:47:53.125
I wanna remind you who the judge is.

526
00:47:54.635 --> 00:47:59.215
The judge of you is God. And that judge already said you're justified.

527
00:48:00.145 --> 00:48:03.855
It's already been decided before you ever made a decision,

528
00:48:03.856 --> 00:48:07.215
before you ever behaved in any particular way. He already said,

529
00:48:07.216 --> 00:48:09.335
because of what Jesus has done, if your faith is in him,

530
00:48:09.515 --> 00:48:13.255
you're already justified. You stand before the judge not guilty.

531
00:48:14.895 --> 00:48:17.915
That's really good news, . And because of this,

532
00:48:18.735 --> 00:48:22.395
as we looked at at the very beginning of Romans chapter one or chapter eight

533
00:48:22.594 --> 00:48:26.555
verse one, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.

534
00:48:27.725 --> 00:48:30.105
Now, once again, if we were to only have asked the question,

535
00:48:30.395 --> 00:48:34.425
who's gonna bring a charge against us? I guarantee you we all have a list,

536
00:48:35.745 --> 00:48:39.815
right? We go, I got people who know me real well and they'd say, I've hurt them,

537
00:48:39.925 --> 00:48:42.055
I've wronged them and they could bring a charge.

538
00:48:43.215 --> 00:48:46.975
I know my own conscience does a lot, a lot of times I beat myself up.

539
00:48:47.094 --> 00:48:49.775
I I tell myself, these are the things I've done to fall short.

540
00:48:49.835 --> 00:48:53.775
And and and then the devil loves to pro pronounce on that because he's called

541
00:48:53.776 --> 00:48:58.614
the accuser of the brethren. Like he loves to accuse God's people regularly.

542
00:48:58.915 --> 00:48:59.635
So if the,

543
00:48:59.635 --> 00:49:02.935
if the question was who's gonna accuse us or who's gonna bring a charge,

544
00:49:02.955 --> 00:49:05.215
you all have a list. But he doesn't say that.

545
00:49:05.275 --> 00:49:08.175
He says Who's gonna bring any charge against God's elect?

546
00:49:08.585 --> 00:49:11.935
Which already tells you who you are? 'cause he's already justified you.

547
00:49:12.605 --> 00:49:15.585
So there's no charge to be brought 'cause you're not guilty.

548
00:49:16.445 --> 00:49:18.265
And I know that your conscience tells you otherwise,

549
00:49:18.266 --> 00:49:20.425
but I'm telling you that gospel says you're not guilty.

550
00:49:22.335 --> 00:49:26.125
It's amazing news. Gosh, I need that daily.

551
00:49:27.325 --> 00:49:30.844
'cause I can tell you a lot of reasons why I feel guilty for ways in which I've

552
00:49:30.845 --> 00:49:31.678
fallen short.

553
00:49:32.364 --> 00:49:35.825
But no accusation is gonna stand before God because God's already chosen and

554
00:49:36.185 --> 00:49:37.825
justified us, not based upon what we've done,

555
00:49:37.826 --> 00:49:40.425
but based upon what Jesus has done for you and me.

556
00:49:42.125 --> 00:49:44.985
So who's to condemn? He continues next question. He says,

557
00:49:44.995 --> 00:49:47.065
Jesus Christ is the one who died.

558
00:49:47.765 --> 00:49:52.545
And more than that he was raised And even more he's at the right hand of

559
00:49:52.685 --> 00:49:56.175
God who is interceding for us. What is he saying?

560
00:49:57.155 --> 00:50:00.535
We know the end of the story. All humanity is gonna stand before Jesus.

561
00:50:00.594 --> 00:50:01.427
The righteous judge.

562
00:50:01.485 --> 00:50:06.305
He's the only human who can righteously judge humans 'cause he's the only

563
00:50:06.315 --> 00:50:09.825
human who perfectly lived out the righteousness. We can't.

564
00:50:10.485 --> 00:50:14.145
So he can stand in a right place of judgment and go, you're measured to me.

565
00:50:14.525 --> 00:50:17.975
How well did you do compared to me? That's the measurement.

566
00:50:18.475 --> 00:50:21.295
We all love to compare ourselves around other people and go like,

567
00:50:21.296 --> 00:50:23.535
well at least I'm not as bad as them. That's not the standard.

568
00:50:23.915 --> 00:50:25.815
The standard isn't your neighbor or somebody else.

569
00:50:25.995 --> 00:50:29.205
The standard is Jesus Christ who lived the human life in our place.

570
00:50:29.465 --> 00:50:32.685
And those of us who are in Christ get what he did for us in our place.

571
00:50:33.105 --> 00:50:36.285
So when we stand before Jesus, we'll stand with his righteous, not our own.

572
00:50:37.465 --> 00:50:40.685
But everyone will stand before Jesus as the judge.

573
00:50:41.225 --> 00:50:43.445
And the good news is for those who have put their faith in him,

574
00:50:43.446 --> 00:50:45.245
he's not just the judge, he's also the advocate.

575
00:50:45.715 --> 00:50:50.325
He's the one making your case for why you can stand and not be condemned.

576
00:50:51.075 --> 00:50:52.605
Just like Romans eight, three said,

577
00:50:52.705 --> 00:50:57.165
God condemned our sin in the very physical body of Jesus

578
00:50:57.985 --> 00:50:58.965
and in so doing us,

579
00:50:58.995 --> 00:51:03.725
he's redeemed us from the curse of our sin and the condemnation that our sin

580
00:51:03.726 --> 00:51:04.559
deserves.

581
00:51:04.825 --> 00:51:08.685
But not only did he die and therefore can be our righteous advocate of someone

582
00:51:08.686 --> 00:51:10.405
who lived perfectly and died in our place,

583
00:51:10.665 --> 00:51:14.805
but he was also raised to new life by the Father. That's really important.

584
00:51:15.065 --> 00:51:18.445
The father raised him up 'cause the father said the wage of sin is death and you

585
00:51:18.446 --> 00:51:18.926
paid for it.

586
00:51:18.926 --> 00:51:23.485
So you get to be raised from dead to alive in a new resurrection reality.

587
00:51:23.705 --> 00:51:27.125
So that all who put their faith in you will also get the same reality.

588
00:51:27.126 --> 00:51:30.165
They'll be raised from dead to alive. Not because they did it,

589
00:51:30.285 --> 00:51:33.844
but 'cause the Father raised them up by the spirit because of what Jesus did for

590
00:51:33.845 --> 00:51:35.335
you and me. I mean,

591
00:51:35.336 --> 00:51:39.935
isn't that good news that you actually get full acceptance when Jesus'

592
00:51:40.175 --> 00:51:43.295
resurrection is like the, is like the the paid in full deposit,

593
00:51:44.175 --> 00:51:46.775
that it's already been paid but the deposit of the spirit comes into your life

594
00:51:46.935 --> 00:51:50.175
to say he paid for you and he paid for you and he paid for.

595
00:51:50.176 --> 00:51:53.255
It's like Oprah like and you get one and you get one and you get one.

596
00:51:53.255 --> 00:51:54.335
Like that's what's happened.

597
00:51:55.515 --> 00:51:59.535
And he's not only raised but he is raised to the right hand of God where he is

598
00:51:59.536 --> 00:52:00.855
interceding for you and me.

599
00:52:01.265 --> 00:52:05.895
Which means he's constantly making advocacy for you and me through what he's

600
00:52:05.896 --> 00:52:09.695
done for us. Jesus is constantly praying for you.

601
00:52:11.065 --> 00:52:13.405
If your faith is in him, he has been praying for you,

602
00:52:13.594 --> 00:52:17.165
he's been praying for you during this message that this will be true to your

603
00:52:17.166 --> 00:52:19.965
heart. Robert McShane said,

604
00:52:19.966 --> 00:52:22.485
if I knew that Christ were in the next room praying for me,

605
00:52:23.085 --> 00:52:26.565
I would not fear a thousand enemies. He is

606
00:52:28.525 --> 00:52:31.385
so who is there to condemn No one,

607
00:52:33.844 --> 00:52:38.705
no one can bring an accusation against you because Jesus's

608
00:52:38.706 --> 00:52:42.825
word of forgiveness and justification will always trump everybody else's word of

609
00:52:42.826 --> 00:52:44.785
accusation, including your own.

610
00:52:47.285 --> 00:52:51.765
I had a guy who used to come to me after I was preaching in Seattle often and he

611
00:52:51.766 --> 00:52:52.885
would come to me afterwards. He goes, you know I,

612
00:52:53.205 --> 00:52:54.364
I love it when you say this stuff,

613
00:52:54.365 --> 00:52:57.765
but I'm just telling you I can't believe it not for me.

614
00:52:59.485 --> 00:53:01.925
And I said, why? And he said, 'cause you don't know what I've done.

615
00:53:03.665 --> 00:53:04.765
If you knew what I've done,

616
00:53:04.864 --> 00:53:09.065
you would not believe for a minute that God would forgive me. And I said,

617
00:53:09.066 --> 00:53:14.065
what have you done? I, I said, tell me it all. And he did.

618
00:53:15.585 --> 00:53:20.025
And I said, that is really bad. He said, see I told you. I go, oh,

619
00:53:20.045 --> 00:53:22.705
I'm not saying he can't forgive, I'm just saying you are right.

620
00:53:22.735 --> 00:53:25.080
What you've done is really bad by the way, way,

621
00:53:25.175 --> 00:53:28.445
let's not diminish sin so that we can somehow make the savior small

622
00:53:31.114 --> 00:53:36.105
right by, by making sin less we make Jesus less. And I said,

623
00:53:36.106 --> 00:53:38.425
your problem isn't that you believe you sin too much.

624
00:53:38.426 --> 00:53:40.545
Your problem is that you believe your sin is bigger than his grace.

625
00:53:41.295 --> 00:53:43.145
Your problem is that you believe that your,

626
00:53:43.146 --> 00:53:45.665
your behavior is stronger than what he accomplished.

627
00:53:46.165 --> 00:53:48.745
You actually just believe you're bigger than Jesus. That's your problem.

628
00:53:49.045 --> 00:53:52.795
You believe you're bigger than God. So let's call that pride.

629
00:53:53.585 --> 00:53:57.195
Your problem is pride but it's not. It's not pride that you've sinned too much.

630
00:53:57.265 --> 00:54:00.275
It's pride that you think your sin is bigger than God's grace.

631
00:54:01.215 --> 00:54:04.114
Please don't make god's small, small,

632
00:54:04.135 --> 00:54:06.555
let your sin be big but he's way bigger than your sin.

633
00:54:06.895 --> 00:54:10.995
Let your sin be what it really is. It is rebellion, it's broken, it's not right.

634
00:54:11.455 --> 00:54:14.395
But his grace is so much bigger than our sin.

635
00:54:16.905 --> 00:54:19.405
He said, man, I don't know if I can believe that. I said,

636
00:54:19.406 --> 00:54:24.215
I'm gonna keep telling you it until you, he disappeared for a while.

637
00:54:24.216 --> 00:54:28.495
And then I remember a few years later actually I was preaching and got done and

638
00:54:28.496 --> 00:54:32.975
he came. I saw him walking down the aisle and he was not the same man.

639
00:54:33.965 --> 00:54:34.656
I'll tell you what,

640
00:54:34.656 --> 00:54:37.695
people who are riddled with guilt and think their sin is so bad that they can't

641
00:54:37.696 --> 00:54:41.795
even come before God who loved them while they were a sinner.

642
00:54:42.575 --> 00:54:46.114
You can see it on him. And when he walked down the aisle, I'm like,

643
00:54:46.115 --> 00:54:49.995
this is a new man. And he came up to me, he goes, I believe it.

644
00:54:51.555 --> 00:54:53.435
I believe that his grace is bigger than my sin.

645
00:54:54.035 --> 00:54:57.235
I believe that what Jesus has done is more, is bigger than what I've done.

646
00:54:58.395 --> 00:55:00.635
And he goes, I'm, I'm a different person. I go,

647
00:55:00.675 --> 00:55:05.485
I can tell you don't look the same. If you look forgiven,

648
00:55:06.705 --> 00:55:10.295
you look free. I want you to hear this.

649
00:55:11.555 --> 00:55:15.935
You can't outs send his grace and you can't overextend his love.

650
00:55:18.855 --> 00:55:21.775
His grace is big enough for everything you'll you've ever done and will ever do

651
00:55:22.075 --> 00:55:23.415
no matter how many times you do it.

652
00:55:24.035 --> 00:55:28.655
And his love is long enough and strong enough because he is love that it'll

653
00:55:28.656 --> 00:55:31.215
never run out. Which is the next question.

654
00:55:31.755 --> 00:55:35.495
Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? This question,

655
00:55:35.735 --> 00:55:36.815
I think Paul is now gonna go,

656
00:55:36.844 --> 00:55:40.375
he's just gonna wax eloquent in poetry because I think he wants you to

657
00:55:40.376 --> 00:55:44.415
understand this rhetoric. Rhetorical question has so much depth to it.

658
00:55:45.594 --> 00:55:49.215
So he just starts going like he, he just wants it to sing deep in our hearts.

659
00:55:49.216 --> 00:55:52.775
I think he wants you to feel the depths of God's love. So you just go like,

660
00:55:52.776 --> 00:55:56.535
okay, I get it, I get it, I get it. More, more, more, more. Give me more.

661
00:55:56.895 --> 00:56:00.415
And he goes, sell tribulation or distress or persecution.

662
00:56:00.445 --> 00:56:02.535
He's addressing all the pressures that we feel,

663
00:56:02.594 --> 00:56:07.535
all the pain we go through or famine or nakedness dealing with our basic

664
00:56:07.585 --> 00:56:11.535
needs and what we feel like we don't have enough or danger or sword.

665
00:56:11.635 --> 00:56:14.415
And you know in their day they have the real possibility that Christians are

666
00:56:14.416 --> 00:56:18.415
gonna suffer and die for their faith. In Paul's time we may not experience that,

667
00:56:18.416 --> 00:56:21.135
but we still experience danger. We still experience threats,

668
00:56:21.235 --> 00:56:22.975
we still experience great fear.

669
00:56:24.225 --> 00:56:27.005
And then he quotes Psalm 44 22,

670
00:56:28.155 --> 00:56:31.505
which is depicting the persecution that Israel is going through by the nations.

671
00:56:31.506 --> 00:56:33.545
And he says, as it is written for your sake,

672
00:56:33.565 --> 00:56:35.185
we are being killed all the day long.

673
00:56:35.725 --> 00:56:39.265
We are regarded as sheep to be slaughtered. And what Paul is doing here is,

674
00:56:39.445 --> 00:56:41.385
is using a rabbinical tactic.

675
00:56:41.705 --> 00:56:45.425
A a rabbi to his students would often quote one verse and then they would,

676
00:56:45.735 --> 00:56:48.225
they would, he would expect that they could quote the rest of the chapter.

677
00:56:50.315 --> 00:56:53.895
And the rest of the chapter basically is them crying out for God to save them.

678
00:56:54.955 --> 00:56:58.094
And what he is trying to say I think is you ever get in those places where

679
00:56:58.095 --> 00:57:01.295
you're just so desperate, you're like, I feel like a sheep before a slaughter.

680
00:57:01.335 --> 00:57:04.135
I feel like I'm getting beat up. I feel like I can't take it anymore.

681
00:57:04.215 --> 00:57:05.775
I feel like I'm at the end of myself.

682
00:57:05.855 --> 00:57:10.335
I don't know if I can make it through this. Does God know? Does God see?

683
00:57:10.525 --> 00:57:14.015
Does God care? Does he love me? And by the way,

684
00:57:14.016 --> 00:57:15.215
that's where some of you are at today.

685
00:57:15.315 --> 00:57:19.975
And I'm just telling you cry out to him 'cause his love never

686
00:57:20.225 --> 00:57:23.805
fails. That's, and that's what Paul is saying, he's going like,

687
00:57:23.806 --> 00:57:25.125
if that's where you find yourself,

688
00:57:25.315 --> 00:57:29.565
just understand there was a sheep who was slaughtered for you and I so that we

689
00:57:29.566 --> 00:57:32.165
can go through what we're experiencing and have the one who overcame,

690
00:57:32.345 --> 00:57:34.205
be the one who helps us and joins us in.

691
00:57:34.206 --> 00:57:38.765
It feels what we feel understands what we're going through and can be with us

692
00:57:38.905 --> 00:57:43.815
the entire time. A lot of times God's not gonna get you outta your troubles,

693
00:57:43.816 --> 00:57:46.375
but he's gonna make sure he's in it with you while you go through your troubles.

694
00:57:47.115 --> 00:57:49.295
And I've had those seasons honestly myself,

695
00:57:49.825 --> 00:57:54.415
where at times I felt like so much despair and yet I have somebody.

696
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'cause what does Paul say? He says no in, not in the not.

697
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Once you get through it, in the midst of it, while you're going through it,

698
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in the midst of all these things,

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we're more than conquers through him and not through your own triumphalism.

700
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Not through your own, pulling yourself up by your bootstraps.

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Not because you strive no through him we are not conquerors 'cause

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we conquer,

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we're conquerors 'cause he conquers and through him we are more than

704
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conquerors 'cause he loved us.

705
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So you and I can experience victory in the midst of suffering and trial because

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we know the one who experienced the greatest trials of them all.

707
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And even in the midst of his greatest trial, he cries out, father, forgive them.

708
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They don't know what they're doing.

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Nothing is gonna thwart his purpose for your life.

710
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Paul has already said God cause all things to work together for the good of

711
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those who love him and are called according to his purpose.

712
00:58:52.755 --> 00:58:57.455
I'm telling you nothing, no one and nothing are gonna thwart his purpose.

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He will do it and we will make it. I promise you,

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you may suffer, you may experience loss.

715
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You may feel like a sheep's being slaughtered,

716
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but in the end nothing's gonna separate you from his love.

717
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And he continues ending it this way. I'm sure that neither death nor life.

718
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And I just wanna pause there.

719
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I notice that I love that he says neither death nor life because you're like,

720
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yeah, I'm gonna die. But he also says life. In other words, even how you live,

721
00:59:27.795 --> 00:59:30.805
some of you go on, yeah, but you don't know how I live. I mean I, I,

722
00:59:31.005 --> 00:59:33.965
I I could blow it and he'd stop loving me. Nope. Not even the way you live.

723
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That's not gonna make him stop loving you. He loved you while you were a rebel.

724
00:59:39.995 --> 00:59:44.455
He'll love you when you fail. Nor angels or rulers, nor things present,

725
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nor things to come, nor powers nor height,

726
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nor depth nor anything else in all of creation will be able to

727
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separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus.

728
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Is that good news to you? It is.

729
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If you are in Christ, this is all true for you.

730
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The end of your life won't be an end to his love.

731
01:00:12.495 --> 01:00:14.475
The ways you fail in this life won't take away his love.

732
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No authority in heaven and on earth can rob you of his love.

733
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What you're going through right now is not evidence that he doesn't love you.

734
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Please hear this 'cause there's a false gospel out there that says if

735
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everything's going really well,

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it's 'cause your faith is strong enough and therefore God's rewarding your

737
01:00:30.976 --> 01:00:35.965
faith. That is a false gospel. Like we call it the prosperity gospel.

738
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The true gospel is God blesses you when you don't deserve it.

739
01:00:39.905 --> 01:00:43.845
And sometimes you suffer when you don't deserve it too. Again,

740
01:00:43.846 --> 01:00:46.285
it's a mystery job's, friends were messed up.

741
01:00:46.286 --> 01:00:47.525
They tried to figure out what was wrong.

742
01:00:47.595 --> 01:00:49.565
They didn't know what was going on in the heavenly realms.

743
01:00:52.175 --> 01:00:54.995
Same for you. Don't try to figure it out.

744
01:00:54.996 --> 01:00:59.315
Don't try to ha bolster more faith to be able to somehow change the outcomes.

745
01:01:00.245 --> 01:01:02.315
Trust in God who will control the outcome.

746
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And if it means it's hard for a long time,

747
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just know that that won't suffer you from his love. He's still with you.

748
01:01:08.555 --> 01:01:11.575
He still loves you. He's still for you. He is not against you.

749
01:01:15.135 --> 01:01:19.355
No one can condemn you and nothing can separate you

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01:01:19.945 --> 01:01:23.315
from the love of God in Christ Jesus. No one and nothing.

751
01:01:24.795 --> 01:01:29.275
I'm gonna say it again. No one and nothing. No one in your life,

752
01:01:30.215 --> 01:01:34.885
no one in the heavenly realms and nothing you do or fail to do

753
01:01:35.195 --> 01:01:40.165
will ever God's purposes for your salvation, for your sanctification,

754
01:01:40.166 --> 01:01:42.485
which is you becoming more like Jesus and your glorification.

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You will be like him in the end. Rest in that.

756
01:01:49.325 --> 01:01:52.925
I think Paul is wanting to end chapter eight with the sense of like,

757
01:01:53.315 --> 01:01:56.845
just take a big breath and go whew.

758
01:01:58.485 --> 01:02:03.185
That's for me. And don't just rest in it. Revel in it. Like just

759
01:02:04.885 --> 01:02:07.185
do what Paul did. I pray that the depths of your heart,

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01:02:07.186 --> 01:02:09.945
that your heart would know the depths of this love, the width of this love,

761
01:02:09.965 --> 01:02:13.905
the breadth of this love. Like we have yet to understand how good it is.

762
01:02:14.065 --> 01:02:18.505
I promise you it'll take us all eternity to celebrate it. It's so good.

763
01:02:20.975 --> 01:02:23.705
So how do we respond? First,

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I pray you learn to worship Jesus more and more because of this.

765
01:02:28.255 --> 01:02:32.625
Like he's the hero of this whole story, not us. This is meant to move you.

766
01:02:32.655 --> 01:02:35.065
It's meant to stir you. In fact, I'll tell you this,

767
01:02:35.265 --> 01:02:37.425
whatever you give your attention to, you also give your affections to.

768
01:02:38.285 --> 01:02:42.065
And that's called worship. And if we keep attending ourselves to this truth,

769
01:02:42.475 --> 01:02:44.945
we'll grow in our affections for Christ who did it for us.

770
01:02:45.685 --> 01:02:48.305
And when you grow in your worship and it captures your affections,

771
01:02:48.535 --> 01:02:49.785
then it changes your behavior.

772
01:02:50.525 --> 01:02:52.545
And that's the second thing that we're gonna do is not we're gonna,

773
01:02:52.546 --> 01:02:53.745
we're gonna worship, but we're also,

774
01:02:53.875 --> 01:02:58.465
we're gonna also have this sense of we don't get overly discouraged when we're

775
01:02:58.466 --> 01:03:01.945
in hopeless situations 'cause we aren't hopeless. 'cause we have,

776
01:03:02.005 --> 01:03:06.385
we know at the end it, he's going to win and you're going to overcome.

777
01:03:07.645 --> 01:03:08.478
And then third,

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01:03:09.085 --> 01:03:13.905
let this embolden you for the mission of making disciples,

779
01:03:13.906 --> 01:03:17.505
of letting this world know that they have good news if they'll turn to Christ.

780
01:03:18.845 --> 01:03:23.385
Ray Orland said this, the felt love of God. When we really feel this,

781
01:03:23.585 --> 01:03:27.385
when we really get it, when at a guttural sense, we know it's true.

782
01:03:28.805 --> 01:03:31.345
The felt love of God makes heroic Christians.

783
01:03:33.865 --> 01:03:35.245
If you read to the end of Romans,

784
01:03:35.246 --> 01:03:37.485
you get introduced to Paul's entire missionary team.

785
01:03:38.315 --> 01:03:41.565
Most people believe that he was in his sixties when he was writing this from a

786
01:03:41.566 --> 01:03:45.045
jail. And if you know much about Paul's writings,

787
01:03:45.046 --> 01:03:49.765
he was anticipating getting to go to another city eventually a 60-year-old in

788
01:03:49.766 --> 01:03:50.965
that day and age. That was like, you're,

789
01:03:50.966 --> 01:03:54.875
you're on your deathbed 'cause of medical conditions and all that.

790
01:03:55.135 --> 01:03:58.075
And he commends this whole team. And what I think Paul's doing, he's going like,

791
01:03:58.175 --> 01:04:00.435
you need to know that the team that I get to do this with,

792
01:04:00.436 --> 01:04:05.075
they all believe this so confidently and securely that they were willing to

793
01:04:05.076 --> 01:04:07.835
leave home for it. They were willing to spend their lives on it.

794
01:04:07.836 --> 01:04:09.595
They're willing to spend their resources on it.

795
01:04:09.596 --> 01:04:11.275
They're willing to give everything for it.

796
01:04:12.275 --> 01:04:14.835
'cause when you get it that at that level you'll say, Jesus,

797
01:04:14.836 --> 01:04:16.675
here I am semi me and I don't care where it is,

798
01:04:16.676 --> 01:04:20.075
but I will go because what you did for me. And I want the world to know,

799
01:04:20.975 --> 01:04:25.315
it leads to heroic Christians who are willing to go out on this mission no

800
01:04:25.316 --> 01:04:28.955
matter the cost. Because we know we're rich, we know we're safe,

801
01:04:29.415 --> 01:04:31.995
we know we're loved, we know we'll never be condemned.

802
01:04:31.996 --> 01:04:34.435
And we know that we're gonna be there in the end when it's all done.

803
01:04:34.436 --> 01:04:39.135
And we're all gonna say he won. So here's the question,

804
01:04:39.245 --> 01:04:40.655
have they captured your heart?

805
01:04:41.685 --> 01:04:46.095
Have these questions sunk deeply for you? Like that's what I wanna,

806
01:04:46.175 --> 01:04:49.135
I wanna respond tonight together. I would love if you just,

807
01:04:49.136 --> 01:04:52.295
if you'd be willing to bow your head and close your eyes just so you can have a

808
01:04:52.296 --> 01:04:56.495
little personal space. And what I'm gonna do is I'm just gonna,

809
01:04:57.355 --> 01:05:02.015
I'm gonna restate each question and I want you to at least think of it,

810
01:05:02.355 --> 01:05:05.375
try to connect with at least one. You might need all five of 'em today, ,

811
01:05:06.235 --> 01:05:10.095
but I want you to personalize them because I think that's what Paul wants us to

812
01:05:10.096 --> 01:05:13.215
learn to do is this is almost like a catechism for life.

813
01:05:13.555 --> 01:05:18.155
How we're gonna get through this one. So the first one, and again,

814
01:05:18.156 --> 01:05:20.955
if this is the one you need to say I, I just want you to personalize it.

815
01:05:21.135 --> 01:05:25.865
So if God's for me Who can be against me,

816
01:05:27.695 --> 01:05:29.955
if you wanna say that quietly, if you even wanna say it out loud,

817
01:05:30.455 --> 01:05:31.715
that's the one you need right now.

818
01:05:31.975 --> 01:05:35.575
If God's for me who can be against me?

819
01:05:38.835 --> 01:05:42.775
Second, if he didn't spare his own son,

820
01:05:43.315 --> 01:05:44.775
but he gave him up for us all,

821
01:05:44.875 --> 01:05:48.095
how will he not also with him graciously give me all things.

822
01:05:53.685 --> 01:05:58.475
Third, who's gonna bring any charge against me?

823
01:05:59.585 --> 01:06:02.715
It's God who is the one who justifies.

824
01:06:03.855 --> 01:06:07.515
And I'm his elect chosen by him

825
01:06:11.565 --> 01:06:15.875
who's there to condemn me. Jesus Christ.

826
01:06:15.876 --> 01:06:20.795
The judge is not gonna, who's left in my life that's got a bigger word,

827
01:06:21.155 --> 01:06:22.875
a bigger voice than Jesus.

828
01:06:26.455 --> 01:06:31.275
And can anything or anyone separate me from the love of God

829
01:06:31.276 --> 01:06:32.155
in Christ Jesus?

830
01:06:38.365 --> 01:06:41.325
The answer is no one and nothing.

831
01:06:43.105 --> 01:06:45.125
Father, would you help us to believe this?

832
01:06:47.395 --> 01:06:48.725
Help us with our unbelief.

833
01:06:52.115 --> 01:06:56.965
Help us to so deeply believe that you are for us, that you are with us,

834
01:06:57.075 --> 01:07:01.685
that you overcome and that you will never reject us

835
01:07:02.305 --> 01:07:06.805
and you'll never leave us. Oh, help us to believe these truths.

836
01:07:08.275 --> 01:07:12.815
No one in nothing can thwart what you are doing and what you will do.

837
01:07:14.135 --> 01:07:17.895
And we thank you in Jesus' name. Amen.

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01:07:28.695 --> 01:07:33.245
<v 3>Thank you Jeff, for sharing those powerful truths of God's word with us.

839
01:07:34.305 --> 01:07:36.845
You know, I like how Jeff, toward the end, he said,

840
01:07:37.745 --> 01:07:40.405
the appropriate response to all of these truths,

841
01:07:40.505 --> 01:07:44.565
to all of the questions answered and know when nothing is worship.

842
01:07:45.745 --> 01:07:50.485
And one of the ways that we believe we worship as Christ followers is through

843
01:07:50.555 --> 01:07:51.388
song.

844
01:07:51.645 --> 01:07:55.925
And another way is through reading his word and prayer and another way asking

845
01:07:56.285 --> 01:08:00.085
questions. As Jeff said, another way is through our financial giving.

846
01:08:00.865 --> 01:08:02.725
And I was reminded in that second question,

847
01:08:02.865 --> 01:08:05.685
he who did not even spare his own son,

848
01:08:07.395 --> 01:08:10.845
He's willing and able to give us all things. Here's the deal,

849
01:08:11.185 --> 01:08:12.845
we will never outgive God.

850
01:08:13.585 --> 01:08:18.564
And so our giving financially from that act of stewardship that he's placed

851
01:08:18.565 --> 01:08:23.125
in our hands, we get to worship him through our financial giving.

852
01:08:23.425 --> 01:08:27.205
My family and I do that through just direct deposits, online giving.

853
01:08:27.705 --> 01:08:30.205
And there's multiple ways we don't take up an offering here at hope,

854
01:08:30.206 --> 01:08:33.925
but there's multiple ways to give. You can see those ways there on the screen.

855
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I wanna thank you so much for coming and being a part of this service.

856
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Stop by next steps teachers, please reminder,

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text the word Teach to 7 2 9 8 9 so we can know you,

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Have a great week and we look forward to seeing you next week.