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Jethro: Welcome to this special
edition of Principal P L

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N  with Guest Host Ross Romano!

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Ross Romano: If you're interested
in impactful education, innovation,

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you're in the right place.

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Today, we're kicking off a four
part series discussing career view

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XR and its alignment with four core
principles that have the potential

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to drive student outcomes, a positive
student outcomes for every child.

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I'm Ross Romano, host of the Authority
Podcast here on the BE Podcast Network.

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I'm joined today by Matt Shosey
for this special episode.

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Matt is the CEO.

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Be More Colorful, a Midwest based
immersive media production studio

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whose platform, CareerViewXR, is
rapidly gaining national attention.

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CareerViewXR provides students and
adult career seekers across the country

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with an unprecedented opportunity
to experience real world careers

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through virtual reality technology.

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And it was recently selected from
a field of over 2, 000 applicants

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to be one of 33 semifinalists
for the prestigious Yaas Prize.

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Matt, welcome to the show!

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Thank you.

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Matt Chausee: Hey, thanks, Ross.

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I appreciate you having me.

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Ross Romano: So...

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You know, we're setting the stage
here for you know, for a number of

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conversations where we're going to get
a chance to dive pretty deeply into

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these four principles, which we'll
talk about what they are in a moment.

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But you know, for our listeners who
are tuning in and we're just getting

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to know you wanted to give you a chance
to describe, be more colorful and

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career view XR and how you got started
with the company and the growth you've

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experienced over the past few years.

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Matt Chausee: Yeah, absolutely.

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So Be More Colorful is a virtual reality
and immersive media production studio.

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We're based in Fargo, North Dakota,
and we actually started in 2016

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thinking we were going to change the
game for residential real estate.

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And when home virtual tours weren't we
weren't able to sell home virtual tours,

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it was like, well, Boy what can we do?

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How do we pivot?

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How do we make this why isn't it working?

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And as we started doing some of that self
reflection, start realizing boy, we're not

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solving a big problem that there's, there
are opportunities here to use this media

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for things that can be much more impactful
than just helping someone choose how

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to buy a home both Katie and I my wife,
Katie and I are a husband and wife team.

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And we decided, you know what?

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We're going to, we're
going to make this happen.

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We're going to go all in on this thing.

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We're going to figure out
where our right fit is.

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Cause we'd started to see a little bit
of traction in tourism, which then kind

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of led to workforce developments and
economic developments, and that then

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started getting us connected with schools.

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And we're both very passionate learners
and educators and it was like, boy,

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We can use these immersive media
technologies to help students make

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more informed choices about what
their future path is by creating

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visibility to the wide array of options
that, that's not just students, but.

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educators and parents are
not even that familiar with.

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So that's the nutshell version.

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It's a seven year journey
to get to this point.

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So obviously there are a lot of
additional rabbit holes to go down there.

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But really that's the overall focus.

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It was it started off as a set of
features in search of a problem.

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Repositioned as boy, we need really need
to understand the problem and the people

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that's affecting first and then we build
a solution that helps solve that problem.

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Ross Romano: Yeah, how did you get
confirmation that focusing on careers

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was the right place to put your energy?

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Matt Chausee: Well, it was interesting.

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It was because we had, I said,
we started in real estate, then

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we moved into travel and tourism.

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It was actually at a tourism
conference where I ran into North

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Dakota's Commissioner of the
Department of Commerce at the time.

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And I've always loved the show Dirty
Jobs, like Mike Rowe is a hero.

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aNd I've always been
passionate about learning.

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I did a lot.

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So, okay, here's my story.

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Six and a half years in college
for my four year math degree.

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And it wasn't because
I failed any courses.

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It's because I couldn't
decide what I wanted to do.

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I had too many major changes.

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But I've always loved learning.

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And that's kind of a core
principle of our company.

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And when I ran into the director of the
Department of Commerce, I realized that

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I read an article recently talking about
this workforce issue that North Dakota,

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as well as many other states are facing.

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And I asked her, I said, Hey I want
to show I had a VR headset in my hand.

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I said, I want to show you this virtual
experience and then ask you a question

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and she tried it on and had I think
it was it was a pitchfork steak fondue

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which is they actually use pitchforks and
they're cooking steaks and that's oil.

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She took off the headset and like,
wow, it felt like I was really there.

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And I said, yeah.

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What would you think about using this
technology to help increase awareness

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of some of the in demand occupations?

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And she said, I love it.

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You need to come talk to the Governor's
Workforce Development Council.

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So we did that and immediately out
of that meeting, this was a couple

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months later, we're back now,
this would have been June of 2019.

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We had that meeting and immediately out
of the meeting, we got our first two

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clients, which were the North Dakota
Building Trades Unions and General

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Equipment and Supplies, who is a heavy
equipment sales and service dealership.

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They said, we need this, that
it is so difficult for us to go

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into a school and to tell kids.

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what these careers are.

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That it's just, it's impossible.

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You can't try to explain what it's
like standing next to an excavator

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to a middle school student if they've
never, if they don't know the difference

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between an excavator and a bulldozer
and a front end loader, right?

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They need to be able to get them there.

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But You can't for things like a
lot of trades for even health care.

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You're constrained by these time,
geography, financial safety, privacy

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limitations that prevent us from
getting kids into those locations.

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So that's where we saw the opportunity.

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From there, we started working
directly with students and teachers.

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We really, we did not want to, we
didn't want to make the same mistake

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we made initially in real estate.

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We wanted to make sure let's
understand the problem first.

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And we know we've got this tool
set and we'll build a solution that

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is tailored to solving the problem
that the students, counselors, and

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educators are informing us about.

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Ross Romano: Can you kind of
paint a little bit of a picture

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for listeners about what this
looks like in the classroom when

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students are using CareerView XR or

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Matt Chausee: absolutely.

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So, so in the classroom, what this looks
like, CareerVXR it's a platform with

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two different formats for the media.

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We learned early on that just
providing virtual reality content

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creates, introduces new barriers.

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that, that we cannot
have in the classroom.

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You can't introduce new media and
have it be dependence on a new type of

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hardware because then you're creating
more problems than you're really solving.

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So the two formats that we provide, one
is a web based format that students and

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teachers can access from any device they
only need an internet connection and

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while most schools weren't one to one
in 2019, as soon as 2020 hits and we had

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to go to virtual learning, that there
are very few schools now that don't have

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a school issued device available for
students and even in public charter and

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homeschool there, there's availability.

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of standard devices.

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So all of our content can be accessed
from any device with an internet

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connection, whether it's a phone or
a tablet or a Chromebook, but we also

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have supplementary career videos.

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So supplementary immersive videos that
if you have a VR headset and you're

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loading these, if you're watching
one of these videos on that headset,

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you're completely immersed in.

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What that career is like.

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You're on top of the wind turbine,
you're in the emergency room, you're

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riding along in the squad car with
with the community support officer.

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That, that's really what it is.

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And it's tough to, if you've not tried
VR before, it's tough to explain that.

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It's tough to show it in video.

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It's tough to explain it you know,
on, on a podcast, but one of the

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ways that we love showing that is, is
just with demonstrations of students

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engagement and interactions with it.

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And the responses have
been super, super positive.

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Ross Romano: so you were at a pivotal
time in the company's, evolution, right?

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When the pandemic disrupted
schools and education and society

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as a whole, how did that affect?

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your progress during that time and the
growth you were seeking as you were

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starting to kind of get your footing in
education, right, and get the new focus.

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And you know, that was a time where
it was a unique time for technology.

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Matt Chausee: It was and we were, we
had just started with CareerVXR, we

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had produced those experiences with
the Building Trades Unions and with

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General Equipment, and we were just
starting to get those out and visible.

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We'd had meetings with with
Educators and career and technical

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education professionals, and
we're getting good feedback.

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And we were starting to line up
what our next shoots would be like.

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And then the pandemic hit and the
production partners we added up had

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lined up, started canceling their shoots.

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And we're saying, Oh my gosh, we're
we're this husband and wife company.

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We've literally gone all in solar house,
Lake place, one of our cars, and we're

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living in an apartment at the time.

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And we've been able to survive based on.

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These production projects that have
come, been coming in and it basically

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got killed because nobody's willing
to even let a company that's filming

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come on site for the risk of.

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Spreading coronavirus.

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buT what came out of that was a
new understanding from schools

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in particular of the value of the
services that we were providing.

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It completely changed the
conversation because Schools.

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I mean, it's critically important to be
able to show kids what these pathways are.

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Let them experience it in person, but
it's always been a little bit difficult

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to schedule field trips and job shadows.

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Not impossible, but I mean, the options
are relatively limited based on your

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geography and what's around you.

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But what the pandemic ended up doing
is really shined a spotlight on how

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woefully Insufficient, our ability to
bring kids to job sites is what we,

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the little bit we were able to do.

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Now we can't do that at all.

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So that got people thinking.

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better than being there in
person, but more accessible

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than being there in person.

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And that's the thing that I
love about what we're doing.

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And the silver lining for us from the
pandemic was that people had an innate

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understanding of, boy, you create virtual
field trips and virtual job shadows.

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So now we don't have to worry.

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At first it was, we don't have
to worry about coronavirus,

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but then it turned into, Oh, We
don't have to worry about buses.

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We don't have to worry
about permission slips.

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We don't have to worry about all
these other things that, that

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prevented them from doing all
of the in person types of career

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exploration that they would want to.

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Ross Romano: Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So so that.

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Innovation that work in the education
space leads us to the prize that

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I referenced in the opening.

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And you're one of the semifinalists
out of more than 2000 applicants,

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one of only 33 semifinalists.

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So clearly there's something
there that's working.

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One, can you fill people in on
what that prize is all about, who

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might not be familiar with it?

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And how did you come to
get involved with it?

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Matt Chausee: Yeah, absolutely.

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So, the Yaas Prize is an Education
Innovation Award and it's a national

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award That is backed by the Center for
Education Reform and it celebrates and

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rewards innovators in education as you
mentioned, there were 2, 000 around 2,

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000 applicants this year from across
the country, and the applicants were all

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applying to Show the work that they're
doing, innovating in education, not just

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ed tech, but other innovative approaches
that could include using tried and true

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methods, but in a new and innovative
manner and really showing how they align

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with the Oz prizes, stop principles and
stop stands for sustainable, outstanding,

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transformational, and permissionless.

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And today we'll be talking more
about the sustainable aspect of

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that and how career view and.

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Be more colorful line there, but that's
really the emphasis of the Oz prize

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is to celebrate those educators that
are being innovative and creating new

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approaches to learning that ultimately
lift up schools, students, and parents for

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helping their kids do that most important
thing, which is by the end of the.

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time they're in school, figure
out what's next and be confident.

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Be confident in that choice and be happy
with that choice that, that they've made.

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So we, we applied thinking,
boy I hope we make it.

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You know, it'd be amazing if we did.

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And in September we were notified that
we were one of 64 quarter finalists.

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And actually my internet wasn't working
well and it cut out right before

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they were making the announcement.

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I didn't actually get to hear it.

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My, I was remote at a conference and.

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I start getting messages from my team.

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Oh my God.

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Oh my God.

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We made it.

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We made it.

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We're in, we're one of
the quarter finalists.

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So that was how our journey started.

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Just this excitement to have this
validation from this nationally renowned

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award say, yes, the work you've been
doing for these past years is valuable.

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It's meaningful for teachers and students.

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And we're recognizing that it
just, it was pretty incredible.

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And we're.

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grateful and honored to be a
part of that awardee group.

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Ross Romano: Yeah, so you
referenced those, the stop.

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Principal, Sustainable, Transformational,
Outstanding, Permissionlism.

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And so with this being the
first of our four conversations,

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we're focusing on Sustainable.

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There will be more episodes of
a variety of our network shows

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to come, focusing on the TLP.

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We'll clue everybody in on those
at the end of the episode here.

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So this sustainable pillar they call it,
right, the core pillar, it's the first one

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in the what's it about and what makes it
so foundational to,  the entirety of this

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series of principles they've laid out?

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Matt Chausee: Yeah, I think the
sustainability piece of it is really

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a focus on how can all of these, each
of the entities involved, how can

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they create educational models and
approaches to education that, that Aren't

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dependents on continued philanthropy
that are not restricted to only those

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families that have a ton of money
available to be able to send their kids

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to really really nice private schools.

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How do we create equitable education
that lifts up all students by providing

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parents and teachers and students some.

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Well, parents and students in particular,
a bit of latitude in what it is they want

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to learn and how they want to learn it
and doing that in a way that there, there

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are dollars available to make it happen,
that it doesn't have to be something

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that is taxing on families, that you
know, we can really create it happen.

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Thanks.

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choices in education in a fair manner
that allow all students and families to

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be able to have those choices to make.

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From our standpoint sustainable
means building a platform

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that is not restrictive.

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It is not something that can
only be accessed by larger school

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districts with big budgets.

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It's something that we want every
single charter school and micro

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school and home school student to
be able to afford because it's so

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critical to be able to become aware
of what those career choices are.

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So I think sustainability, there's
a financial component to it,

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making sure that the dollars are
available for all of these schools

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to operate the way that they need to.

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But there's also kind of sustainability
in terms of innovative approaches

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to Finding other ways to other ways
to bring some of those dollars in

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and support your organizations.

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They're really cool organizations
that are doing things like

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partnering with partnering with.

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Organ, excuse me, partnering with
companies and employers and really

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finding ways to engage publicly to
show that, hey, the output we're

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getting from these schools are really
engaged and passionate students, which

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then emphasizes the importance of
putting dollars into those programs.

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Ross Romano: Have you found that...

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Schools when they're discussing with
you some of their goals, the programs

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they're trying to bring to their
students their efforts centered around

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equitable access and opportunities
and knowledge about, right, career

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pathways, future options and what.

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A variety of different success pathways
could look like beyond K 12 that they're

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looking to you and to CareerViewXR
as a solution that's able to you

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know, get them closer to accessing
what they want for their students.

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Matt Chausee: Yep.

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And that's, that's key, right?

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I'm not going to, I'm not going to sit
here and say that our solution is going

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to line every single student across the
country with exactly the perfect career.

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But what we do is we broaden
their base knowledge.

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We provide an authentic glimpse into a
wide variety of career experiences that

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they'd never be able to see before.

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And some of the stories that, that come
out of this, I mean, it just we've got.

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Kids that are inspired.

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One kid we always ask students what
they want to see, and you would

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expect that these students are going
to be asking for, Oh, I want to

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see, I want to see football player.

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I want to see NASCAR driver.

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I want to see social media influencer.

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And we get those occasionally.

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But by and large, when I ask a room of
students what they want to see, they're

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asking for things like teacher and
accountant, and there was one class where

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two kids wanted to see an agronomist
experience, and I never thought I'd

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hear an elementary kid or middle school
student say, I want to see an agronomist

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experience, but they haven't had a chance,
they've heard about it, but they've

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never had a chance to go there in person.

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The other thing that I think is really
important for schools and teachers  and

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parents is to be thinking beyond what
we know about different career pathways.

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You'd be amazed the number of careers that
I'm learning about by being, you know.

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by, by what we're doing with
CareerViewXR is just incredible.

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I mean, things like sterile instrument
processing in hospitals, that you can

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be a critically important role in a
hospital, that if you, if your role

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doesn't exist, the hospital ceases
to function, but you can do that

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without interacting with any patients.

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If you ask a student what jobs there
are at a hospital, the response

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you're going to get 90 percent
of the time is doctor or nurse.

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And creating Just that awareness of
everything that's out there is so

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important and we find that it really
opens the eyes of the students and the

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counselors and the teachers of thinking
about, well, how can we be thinking

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about career exploration differently
and getting those students thinking

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what's the right path for me, but also.

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Is this something that I thought I
was interested in, but it's really

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not what I thought was what I thought
it was at the end of the day, having

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students see a career experiencing,
they would say, yeah, I'd like to

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learn more or no, that's not for me.

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Those are both equally
successful outcomes.

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Ross Romano: Right.

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And I mean, even adults have a
pretty limited perspective on the

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variety and number of different types
of roles and jobs and occupations

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that are out there within different
industries and organizations.

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There's certain things that we know
about, but there's all these other layers.

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And you know, I would suppose the
part of the sustainability is helping.

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Students or even adults to be able to make
better decisions earlier about the things

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they really want to do and get all that
right so that they are for example, when

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we think about things like the cost of
higher education and you mentioned your

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six and a half year journey, right, if.

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You know, if you're not really sure
what you want to do, and maybe even

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by the end of that four year program,
you're like, I'm just doing something

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for now, but I I'm not sure if it's
the right thing, because I don't really

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quite understand the options or how
to go the pathway I want to go to.

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Then that's.

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You know, it's anti sustainable because
ultimately resources are limited, right?

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And but in this case saying, look,
it's not that everybody has to make a

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decision about what they want to do for
the rest of their life when they're 16.

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But if you have a really good idea of the
types of things that really drive you and

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motivate you and are really interesting
to you, you can learn much more about

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those things and have a better chance at.

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accessing those careers, if that's what
you want to do, then certainly you would

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if you didn't know about them at all.

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Matt Chausee: Yeah, absolutely.

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And that's one of the things that I'm
really excited about in the sustainability

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model that we're working to build.

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We're based in North Dakota,
so we're starting this here.

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But we look to expand it across the
country is getting employers involved.

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Employers have to be more
involved in the K 12.

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process to be able to help support
schools and to be able to help

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provide guidance for what's the
output that we're looking for.

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I mean, we run a virtual reality and
immersive media production studio

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and we get people thinking, Oh,
well, you must be hiring programmers.

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Well, no, yes and no.

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We need programming aptitude or logical
aptitude, but we hire creatives and

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filmmakers and writers and we need
people that have those soft skills and.

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Really schools that are focusing on
work based learning and providing

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output that's going to get
students ready for the workforce.

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And I think ultimately sustainability,
dollars need to be going to schools

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that are proving that they're.

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doing that.

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I think probably the least sustainable
model is you know, you go through this

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progression of core standards and then
you graduate and you go to college and you

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figure out what you're going to want to
do, and then you find out that it was all

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for the wrong stuff which was what I did.

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And I'm not complaining to be clear.

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I liked my education, but there are
way too many students that don't have

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that opportunity to have someone really
individualize what's what approaches

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are going to work best for them.

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I kind of went down a rabbit hole there,
but on, on our CareerVXR side, we've

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been working really closely with making
those connections between employers

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and Educators across the states, and we
were actually successful this year in,

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in working with the North Dakota State
Legislature to get funding that was

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appropriated to the Office of Career and
Technical Education that they then decided

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to use to purchase CareerViewXR and deploy
that across the state of North Dakota.

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Now.

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That isn't sustainable
in and of itself, right?

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Because those are appropriated dollars
and we all know that in, in lean times,

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those things can get taken away, but
what we're going to do over the next two

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years is work with those employers that
you've got 65 amazing experiences that are

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paired with equally amazing employers that
now have an opportunity to present what

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they've got to schools and we can start
working on a sustainability model where

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those employers can help provide access
to those experiences through, through,

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through us where we don't have to, we want
to in two years from now, we want to have

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a model where this is entirely privately
funded and to have that be a model that is

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is able to be replicated in other states.

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Ross Romano: Yeah, I mean, that's a major
part of not only the sustainability,

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but the viability of any educational
solution is the ability to partner

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with schools to find the creative,
innovative funding solution, right?

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And one.

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You know, certainly for equity purposes
to say that, okay, the school that

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doesn't have a lot of resources
shouldn't be prevented from accessing

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a useful tool because of that.

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But also because ultimately, most
schools, most public schools have,

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are going to have resource challenges.

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And so for...

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A new solution coming to market to
be able to get in there it takes

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some creativity and it really takes
partnership and getting on the same

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page and an alignment and talking to
them about their goals, what they need,

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what do they see working together.

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And it's clear that you've been going down
that road thus far and finding that out.

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That's you know, a clear
illustration, I think, of the

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types of things that you can.

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Continue to do and it's going to
look different case by case, as you

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said the funding is always changing
where it's coming from where it is.

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And that's why it's a hard job.

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But at the same time the reality is.

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You have, you share the same
goals with these schools, right?

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You know, everybody has the goal of
ensuring that these students are prepared

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for success through and beyond their
schooling years and into their life.

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And the only way to make that work is to
really be working together in integration.

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Otherwise, there's too
many gaps, too many holes.

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Matt Chausee: Yeah, absolutely.

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And I'm really glad that you
mentioned that working together and

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integration because that's another
core principle of the YAS Prize.

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I kind of ended our YAS journey
on we were selected as quarter

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finalists, but where it went from
there is they actually flew all of the

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quarter finalists out to Cleveland.

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And then we had an opportunity to
meet all of the other finalists.

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quarter finals, and we
only had a day and a half.

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So there wasn't a lot of time to get into
deep conversations, but we're able to

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meet these folks in person and learn about
the other innovation that's happening.

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And yes it is, there is a competitive
nature to it, but it's only to.

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make all of the
participants better, right?

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And collaboration really is as much
or more a part of this whole this

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whole initiative than anything else.

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And one thing that they've been really
stressing throughout the entirety

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of it is you are now part of, This
you're part of this group, you're

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part of this family, and everyone is
here to support you and your efforts.

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And you're here to support
all of them in their efforts.

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And I just I love that approach.

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One of our one of our core company
values is celebrate collaboration.

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And I couldn't think of an
organization that is doing that better.

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So we're all in Cleveland.

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We're meeting each other.

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We're talking, I'm talking with
folks from New York and and there,

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there's another school from North
Dakota that we're visiting with and

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Wisconsin and, I mean, just everywhere.

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Hawaii, we had a great
quarterfinals that was from Hawaii.

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I got to meet him.

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Never would have gotten a chance to
do that if it weren't for this award.

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And we're all there talking about
collaborating and everyone's hopeful

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they'll move into the semi finals and
the, on the second night is when they

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have the announcements and we were just
elated to be there and I wasn't sure

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where we would land on it and when I
saw Be More Colorful come up on the

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screen it just, it goosebumps, right?

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It's further validation of all of
this hard work that we've been doing.

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And to be clear, not just us, all of
the partners that have helped make

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this happen and are making this whole
thing sustainable, it's validation

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of all of their efforts as well.

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So we're now on this journey
where now we're one of 33.

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Semi finalists that are engaging in
further collaboration and how can we

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really change the landscape and work
together to make sure that 21st century

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technologies and tried and true approaches
that are re imagined can be used to

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uplift students all across the country.

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Ross Romano: Yeah.

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And so in that spirit of collaboration,
are there some of the other semi

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finalists that you'd like to
highlight or shout out with respect

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to this sustainability pillar?

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Of course, they're all doing, right, work
that aligns with all of the principles,

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but since this is our conversation today.

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Matt Chausee: Yep, absolutely.

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So I'm gonna, I'm gonna list
eight that I really like from a

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sustainability standpoint, but I
want to be clear that all other 32

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semifinalists here are doing phenomenal.

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I mean, they wouldn't be here if they
didn't check that, that sustainability

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box as well as the Transformational,
Outstanding, and Permissionless.

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So we're actually going to highlight
all 32 of them throughout the course

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of this series, but I want to call out
updates that I really like what they're

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doing from a sustainable standpoint.

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So, first one would be
Detroit Achievement Academy.

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They're building a sustainable
model by providing innovative

00:28:11.294 --> 00:28:13.044
approaches that create.

00:28:13.054 --> 00:28:14.824
civically engaged students.

00:28:14.824 --> 00:28:18.078
And if you've got a student that's
invested in their community, that is a

00:28:18.078 --> 00:28:21.278
student that's thinking about their school
and how to give back to their school.

00:28:21.278 --> 00:28:23.258
You're creating sustainability there.

00:28:23.628 --> 00:28:27.128
Families Empowered focuses on
parent empowerment and support

00:28:27.128 --> 00:28:31.538
services and showing sustainability
by providing resources and options

00:28:31.538 --> 00:28:33.348
to family who are seeking choices.

00:28:33.418 --> 00:28:34.408
in education.

00:28:34.868 --> 00:28:39.218
There's Lutheran Urban Mission, and
excuse me, Lutheran Urban Mission

00:28:39.228 --> 00:28:43.078
Initiative, or LUMEN which is in
Wisconsin, and they blend curriculum

00:28:43.078 --> 00:28:46.798
and comprehensive studies, and
they've created a long term model.

00:28:46.798 --> 00:28:48.808
They've been around for 20 plus years.

00:28:48.838 --> 00:28:51.178
I mean, what a, what an
inspirational thing, right?

00:28:51.573 --> 00:28:55.553
There's a National Fellowship for Black
and Latino male educators who focuses

00:28:55.553 --> 00:29:00.633
on recruiting educators and serving low
income students and creating opportunities

00:29:00.643 --> 00:29:06.273
for Black and Latino males to position
them into senior level and C suite roles.

00:29:06.663 --> 00:29:07.193
And.

00:29:07.638 --> 00:29:10.568
If you're creating a school that's
bringing people into those upper level

00:29:10.568 --> 00:29:13.728
roles, now you've got companies that
are looking back at the schools that

00:29:13.728 --> 00:29:18.038
help bring their leadership there, and
that, that helps create some of those

00:29:18.038 --> 00:29:21.478
sustainable opportunities where now the
companies are supporting the schools.

00:29:21.988 --> 00:29:24.388
There's, well actually,
there's two odysseys here,

00:29:24.398 --> 00:29:25.018
but I'm going to start with.

00:29:25.213 --> 00:29:26.983
Odyssey, the EdTech platform.

00:29:27.393 --> 00:29:32.383
Odyssey the EdTech platform, they've got
a platform where parents can help identify

00:29:32.383 --> 00:29:37.163
funding opportunities and educational,
navigate educational savings account

00:29:37.483 --> 00:29:41.963
initiatives at varying states to figure
out how do we, how do they use dollars

00:29:41.963 --> 00:29:46.238
that are available to help support their
Children's Individualized Learning.

00:29:46.738 --> 00:29:50.278
Then there's Odyssey Charter School,
and they've got a commitment to it.

00:29:50.298 --> 00:29:54.848
It's a dual Greek English
language immersion program, which

00:29:54.958 --> 00:29:56.218
I just think is really cool.

00:29:56.268 --> 00:30:00.953
And to create something that's so
nuanced and really, I mean, You've got

00:30:00.953 --> 00:30:04.873
to be passionate, right, about Greek
language to go into a program like that.

00:30:04.873 --> 00:30:08.513
And that kind of passion then
turns into sustainability.

00:30:08.563 --> 00:30:10.353
There's On Your Mark Education.

00:30:10.753 --> 00:30:14.063
They've got a virtual tutoring
platform focused on literacy.

00:30:14.383 --> 00:30:17.943
And I think one of the biggest struggles
for kids learning to read is, are there...

00:30:18.498 --> 00:30:21.748
people in the area that are
going to teach them how to read.

00:30:21.858 --> 00:30:25.138
If there aren't, you can't bring
people in, but a virtual solution

00:30:25.468 --> 00:30:26.888
solves that problem, right?

00:30:26.928 --> 00:30:29.848
There are definitely enough people
that are passionate about teaching

00:30:29.848 --> 00:30:33.528
kids how to read across the country
to meet the needs of the students.

00:30:34.053 --> 00:30:36.153
Distributed in other areas of the country.

00:30:36.153 --> 00:30:37.923
I just I love what on your mark is doing.

00:30:38.413 --> 00:30:40.833
And then there's West Virginia
Academy, and they're one

00:30:40.843 --> 00:30:42.303
that on the financial side.

00:30:42.303 --> 00:30:43.653
They're They're showing sustainability.

00:30:43.653 --> 00:30:47.593
They're a public charter school who's
been able to successfully leverage public

00:30:47.873 --> 00:30:52.233
funds for an expansion of educational
benefits that are that are benefiting

00:30:52.483 --> 00:30:54.243
traditionally disadvantaged students.

00:30:54.633 --> 00:30:55.193
So those are the eight.

00:30:55.353 --> 00:30:57.173
I wish I could go through
all of the other 24.

00:30:57.173 --> 00:31:00.563
We're going to hit all other 24 on
the other three episodes though.

00:31:00.593 --> 00:31:04.243
But yeah, we're just, we're honored to
be listed amongst these folks that are

00:31:04.243 --> 00:31:06.523
just doing amazing things in education.

00:31:07.348 --> 00:31:07.548
Ross Romano: Wonderful.

00:31:07.558 --> 00:31:09.838
So what are the next
steps for the OzPrize?

00:31:09.888 --> 00:31:11.858
How can listeners support you?

00:31:12.463 --> 00:31:16.043
Matt Chausee: Well, the next steps are
we're actually moving into a virtual

00:31:16.043 --> 00:31:20.203
accelerator program over the next four
weeks where we'll have remote sessions.

00:31:20.203 --> 00:31:23.283
We'll be learning a lot more about
the initiative, about our fellow

00:31:23.333 --> 00:31:27.443
semifinalists and learning from some
Sal Khan where I'm going to hear

00:31:27.443 --> 00:31:29.723
from him in a couple hours on a call.

00:31:29.723 --> 00:31:30.963
So I'm just, I'm excited.

00:31:31.538 --> 00:31:32.238
to learn.

00:31:32.248 --> 00:31:36.798
It is a, the next four weeks are
a learning opportunity that then

00:31:36.808 --> 00:31:41.908
culminate in a week long boot camp in
Miami where we'll have an opportunity

00:31:41.908 --> 00:31:46.368
to refine our pitch and then actually
pitch for the 1 million YAS prize.

00:31:46.448 --> 00:31:50.768
So that's what a lot of that's A lot of
the next few weeks are going to entail

00:31:51.078 --> 00:31:54.348
but there is one other opportunity that
I want to make sure that we call out

00:31:54.368 --> 00:31:56.398
and that's the parents choice award.

00:31:56.478 --> 00:32:02.418
Every one of the semi finalists is
eligible for for a parents for the Parents

00:32:02.418 --> 00:32:06.878
Choice Award, which is actually selected
by a vote from the general public.

00:32:07.188 --> 00:32:09.418
And this is a little different, this,
it's a little interesting, because

00:32:09.458 --> 00:32:12.538
the Parents Choice Award, you have
to decide what you're going to do

00:32:12.568 --> 00:32:15.308
with the funds, and it doesn't have
to be something that necessarily

00:32:15.308 --> 00:32:17.058
directly aligns with those stops.

00:32:17.263 --> 00:32:18.093
initiatives.

00:32:18.633 --> 00:32:23.143
And what we've opted to do if we if we're
the winner of the Parents Choice Award,

00:32:23.513 --> 00:32:27.693
we're going to take that 100, 000 and
we're going to put that into a fund that

00:32:27.693 --> 00:32:34.453
will seed an ongoing an ongoing investment
that allows schools that don't have

00:32:34.453 --> 00:32:38.913
the resources to purchase VR hardware,
to be able to help offset those costs.

00:32:39.343 --> 00:32:42.093
And that's something that I
would love anybody listening to

00:32:42.103 --> 00:32:44.569
be able to go out to yasprize.

00:32:44.969 --> 00:32:51.184
org slash vote and give us a vote for for
if you believe in helping us accomplish

00:32:51.184 --> 00:32:52.934
that, we'd love to see votes there.

00:32:53.304 --> 00:32:56.414
But I also want to say that in
the spirit of collaboration, you

00:32:56.414 --> 00:32:57.844
actually get two votes every day.

00:32:57.844 --> 00:33:00.954
So I want to make sure to call out
that you should research and look

00:33:00.954 --> 00:33:02.694
into these other 32 organizations.

00:33:02.694 --> 00:33:04.014
They're doing incredible things.

00:33:04.014 --> 00:33:06.684
And as much as we'd love your vote,
you got to vote your heart too.

00:33:06.694 --> 00:33:10.164
Like vote, vote for whoever you
think is furthering what you believe

00:33:10.164 --> 00:33:11.884
needs to happen most in education.

00:33:12.629 --> 00:33:12.979
Ross Romano: Right.

00:33:13.379 --> 00:33:18.269
Yeah, it's a great opportunity for
everyone out there to just, it's click

00:33:18.269 --> 00:33:21.599
away and we'll put the link below
in the show notes to where you can

00:33:21.639 --> 00:33:25.209
go and vote, but to really be able
to make a difference, to have those

00:33:25.209 --> 00:33:31.549
funds go toward Giving schools and as
a result, teachers and students the

00:33:31.549 --> 00:33:36.299
ability to access solutions that really
could help them to be successful.

00:33:36.369 --> 00:33:40.499
We want to make sure that you know
about this four part conversation

00:33:40.499 --> 00:33:43.119
and stay tuned to the rest of it
across the Bee Podcast Network.

00:33:43.119 --> 00:33:43.379
So.

00:33:44.084 --> 00:33:47.594
Today, you've heard about the
Sustainability Principle, you'll hear

00:33:47.614 --> 00:33:52.034
about the Transformational Principle on
Transformative Principal coming up soon.

00:33:52.334 --> 00:33:55.224
You'll hear about the Outstanding
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00:33:55.224 --> 00:33:58.434
permissionist learning, permissionless
learning, did I say that right?

00:33:58.464 --> 00:34:03.374
On Rebel Educator both of those episodes
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00:34:03.374 --> 00:34:07.014
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00:34:07.014 --> 00:34:08.594
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00:34:09.009 --> 00:34:13.129
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00:34:13.139 --> 00:34:15.399
Series, which is coming very soon.

00:34:15.409 --> 00:34:18.429
You're going to hear a lot more
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00:34:18.429 --> 00:34:22.899
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00:34:22.909 --> 00:34:25.699
We're going to do a
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00:34:26.299 --> 00:34:28.949
It's a great chance to hear about
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00:34:28.949 --> 00:34:32.049
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00:34:32.049 --> 00:34:33.989
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00:34:33.999 --> 00:34:38.349
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00:34:44.979 --> 00:34:46.589
Matt, thanks so much for being here.

00:34:47.244 --> 00:34:47.774
Matt Chausee: Absolutely.

00:34:47.774 --> 00:34:48.764
Thanks for having me, Ross.

00:34:48.764 --> 00:34:50.224
And thanks everyone for listening.