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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to The Bible Guys, a podcast where a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun, in

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<v Speaker 1>practical ways.

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<v Speaker 2>Good morning, Vietnam.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know that. That's how this show starts. Did

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<v Speaker 3>you ever see that movie with Rovin Williams. Yes, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>aware of it. I'm not sure i've ever seen it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, he did it very obnoxiously. I did it

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<v Speaker 1>very quickly. He shuts it out. Good. Okay, So, but no,

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<v Speaker 1>we are not in Vietnam. Although if you're listening and

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<v Speaker 1>you're from Vietnam, welcome.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I don't know if we've had any listeners from Vietnam,

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<v Speaker 3>but we might.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we might.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, who knows, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>We should check.

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<v Speaker 3>That'll look it up.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, you want to look it up.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, let me see. Let's kee keep going, keep going.

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<v Speaker 1>So, hey, listen, we first of all want to welcome

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<v Speaker 1>you to the Bible guys. And we are Christ and

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff and we are starting a segment now and it

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<v Speaker 1>is called sports team draft lists.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, and here's how she how she wrote it.

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<v Speaker 1>She said, it's Super Bowl weekend, so let's do a

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<v Speaker 1>draft list of your all time favorite sports teams do

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<v Speaker 1>rock paper scissors to see who gets the first draft

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<v Speaker 1>pick and then go into you each have five teams.

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<v Speaker 1>Five teams, which, by the way, because we're filming this

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<v Speaker 1>a few weeks before the Super Bowl, who do you

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<v Speaker 1>think is going to be in the Super Bowl? Wuldn't

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<v Speaker 1>that be fun? Because everybody when they hear this, they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to know, Yeah, I don't know, Chiefs.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope not.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope not.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope it's the Bills.

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<v Speaker 2>Bills.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's what I'm hoping.

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<v Speaker 2>And then who else on the other side, Well, it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Either going to be the Eagles or the Commanders. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>so pick, I think it'd be interesting to watch the

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<v Speaker 3>Commanders play against the Bills. I think the Bills will

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<v Speaker 3>kill him.

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<v Speaker 1>But you think so, Yeah, yeah, I do.

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<v Speaker 2>I do think the Bills are gonna make it. I do.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think it's going to be the Eagles versus

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<v Speaker 1>the Bills.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, that's what I think.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what you think, And I pray to the Lord above.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, that's.

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<v Speaker 3>Because he cares, he cares about football games.

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<v Speaker 1>That the Chiefs do not make it. That's just my

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<v Speaker 1>selfish prok that that will probably not be honored.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, he's up there thinking, I wonder who I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>to make win the Super Bowl this year. He's just

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<v Speaker 3>not he's contemplated.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not caring. Do we have Vietnam?

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't have record on the on the YouTube

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<v Speaker 3>thing that we have anybody from Vietnam. But let me

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<v Speaker 3>let me go over to the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so we have to do rock paper Scissors and

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to uh uh And by the way, uh

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<v Speaker 1>do you believe that? Do you believe the whole like

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<v Speaker 1>NFL rigged referees protecting mahomes?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you believe all that?

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's natural for people to be big fans

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<v Speaker 3>of things, yep, right, and it's hard to not let

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<v Speaker 3>your fandom cause you to be slightly biased. But I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think it's rigged.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't think it's rigged, but I do think

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<v Speaker 1>it's unfair, unfair, unfair. Correct, Well, life's not fair, Chris.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that is definitely true for sure. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't see any in Vietnam. Okay, we have we

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<v Speaker 3>have a bunch in the area, but not.

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<v Speaker 1>Give me another country. Hang on, hang on, this is Spain.

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<v Speaker 1>We have we have twenty four from Spain. Okay, So you're.

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<v Speaker 2>Ready in the last month, ready, good morning Spain, Taiwan.

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<v Speaker 3>Taiwan's on, Singapore is on that.

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<v Speaker 2>I've already chosen Spain.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, okay, Spain?

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<v Speaker 1>Was it?

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<v Speaker 2>Spain? Was it?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, we gotta do rock paper sits.

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<v Speaker 3>We had one hundred and thirty one last month from Taiwan.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's really cool. Yeah, al ready.

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<v Speaker 3>Rock paper scissors yep, one two three shoo oh shoot

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<v Speaker 3>we get both had scissors one two three? Shoot oh

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<v Speaker 3>I had rock Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I did papers.

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<v Speaker 3>It's me first, it's your first.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well, obviously I'm gonna go straight forward. The Lions

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<v Speaker 1>this year.

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<v Speaker 3>Twenty twenty four to twenty five Lions.

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<v Speaker 1>That's correct, that is that is my first show.

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<v Speaker 3>All time favorite team.

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<v Speaker 2>It said, name five of your most favorite teams.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, but this is your favorite team, number one, number one.

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<v Speaker 2>It's probably actually it's probably number one.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, okay. I think of all the teams that

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<v Speaker 3>I've ever been obsessed with, there's a couple. One it

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<v Speaker 3>would be the eighty four Tigers. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah

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<v Speaker 3>when they won the World Series. Yeah for sure, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that was I was obsessed with them. I was only thirteen.

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<v Speaker 2>That's great.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a huge, huge season for me.

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<v Speaker 1>So in like fashion, I'm going to choose the nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>ninety five Atlanta Braves.

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<v Speaker 3>Really were you living in Atlanta at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>I was, Yeah, And in fact, I went to I

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<v Speaker 1>went to that World Series. I was a World Series game.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow. How many good team?

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<v Speaker 2>How many people can say that?

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<v Speaker 3>Hundreds of thousands? Yeah, right, but not billions?

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<v Speaker 1>Not billions, Okay, and they actually defeated the Indians. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm from just south of Cleveland, so I was a

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<v Speaker 1>little torn. But I never had total allegiance to Cleveland.

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<v Speaker 1>But because I lived in Atlanta at the time and

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<v Speaker 1>I went to constantly, I went to Braves games. I

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<v Speaker 1>remember Greg Maddox and Smolts and all the those guys.

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<v Speaker 1>I sat there and watched them and they won. I

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<v Speaker 1>was there at Game six.

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<v Speaker 3>So my whole life growing up, I can remember when

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<v Speaker 3>I was I was about six years old. My dad's

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<v Speaker 3>a big was a big sports guy. Loves sports. He

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<v Speaker 3>still does love sports. He loves college sports, he loves

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<v Speaker 3>pro sports. But my dad has a very strong sense

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<v Speaker 3>of loyalty. So it's We're from Michigan, so we only

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<v Speaker 3>root for Michigan teams. Wow, right, that's it. So I

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<v Speaker 3>was like five or six, I'm like, which ones do

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<v Speaker 3>we like? And he would point out, we like the

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<v Speaker 3>so it was a maze and blue. Right. So I

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<v Speaker 3>only my favorite teams are only Michigan teams, Like I

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<v Speaker 3>don't have everybody else's our enemy right in my mind.

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<v Speaker 3>My whole life has been that way. So I would

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<v Speaker 3>say my second favorite team that I got obsessed with

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<v Speaker 3>was the eighty nine to ninety Pistons.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, bad boys, yep.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so Isaiah Thomas, Bill AMBIERR. Yeah, were and all

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's awesome, Joe do Mars.

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<v Speaker 3>They just because they were so mean to everybody else,

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<v Speaker 3>and they dethroned Larry Bird's rain and Magic Johnson's reign both.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>Right after that, neither one of them really dominated. They

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<v Speaker 3>were great players after that, but up till then, we

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<v Speaker 3>could never defeat them, and then after that we ushered

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<v Speaker 3>in the Jordan era after that.

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<v Speaker 1>Right right, right, right, Okay, I'm gonna choose the the

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty seven nineteen eighty eight Cleveland Browns. Wow, where

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<v Speaker 1>they were in the AFC Championship. Yeah, it's commonly known

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<v Speaker 1>as the fumble.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>They fumbled on.

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<v Speaker 3>Like the two two yard line, Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 1>Against the Denver Broncos yep and el Way just it

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<v Speaker 1>was the drive.

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<v Speaker 2>Then the fumble yep, yep, ye wow.

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<v Speaker 1>So so anyway, but that those were great days, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Browns almost.

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<v Speaker 3>Almost made it. Yep. That was like us last year.

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<v Speaker 3>We almost made it to the Super Bowl last year.

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<v Speaker 3>Bernie Cozar Yeah wow, oh wow, I haven't heard that

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<v Speaker 3>name in forever, but yeah, you're right. Okay, So then

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<v Speaker 3>I think my next favorite team, my third favorite team

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<v Speaker 3>would be I would say probably the twenty twelve Detroit Tigers. Okay, right,

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<v Speaker 3>they went to the World Series. They lost in the

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<v Speaker 3>World Series, but man, what a what a run there,

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<v Speaker 3>you know with Verlander and it's such a great team.

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<v Speaker 2>That's awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>Miguel Cabrera, right those guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, I'm going to choose the nineteen ninety eight

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen ninety nine Atlanta Falcons.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh wow, are you still in Atlanta? Then?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I was in Atlanta till two thousand and four.

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<v Speaker 2>Ok So they went to the Super.

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl that year and they lost, but they went and

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<v Speaker 1>they played the Broncos again. So the Browns lost against

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<v Speaker 2>Awkwards loss against the Broncos.

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<v Speaker 3>You hate the Broncos.

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<v Speaker 2>I hate the Broncos.

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<v Speaker 3>Hate the Broncos.

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<v Speaker 1>And somebody on our staff is from Denver and that's thirteam,

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<v Speaker 1>favorite team, and I can't stand the Broncos.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep, and you know who you are.

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<v Speaker 1>But I went, I went to go speak at a

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<v Speaker 1>I saw a commercial by John Elway and he owns

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<v Speaker 1>car dealerships. Now yeah, and he looked at the car

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<v Speaker 1>he pulled up, look at the camera and he goes,

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<v Speaker 1>Elway has the car for you. And then he points,

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<v Speaker 1>he points, he points, Anyway, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>Last one, okay, last one? Okay. I would say I

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<v Speaker 3>loved playing on Landmark Baptist Temple softball team with my dad.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, that would be my Yeah, Okay. We won

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of games. I turned. I think my dad

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<v Speaker 3>and I and my brother combined turned. We were trying

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<v Speaker 3>to add it up. It's five or six double plays

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<v Speaker 3>nice together, and that's kind of neat when you get

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<v Speaker 3>through that with your brother, your dad.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, by the way, we were supposed to be five each.

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<v Speaker 2>Weely four each.

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<v Speaker 3>That's okay. We're running long.

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<v Speaker 2>I know we're running long.

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<v Speaker 1>But I have to say that I did win the

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<v Speaker 1>championship of my baseball team, the nineteen eighty five Briggs

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<v Speaker 1>and Jones team beat Ohio Carpet.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh and so we did.

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<v Speaker 3>Want a rivalry, by the way, I mean this in

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<v Speaker 3>the storied This is a storied rivalry.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and so I did. I did win that.

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<v Speaker 2>We won the championship?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah that season.

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<v Speaker 3>That's pretty impressive. Were you amazing in the game?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I missed the game. They probably won because I

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<v Speaker 2>To the year.

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<v Speaker 3>You got him there, You got him there.

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<v Speaker 2>My dad told me I could either go on vacation

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<v Speaker 3>Well good you got him there though, Thank goodness.

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<v Speaker 2>But I got him there.

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<v Speaker 3>Chris third base, you got us all the way to

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<v Speaker 3>given Aram great victories. But though Naman was a mighty warrior,

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<v Speaker 3>he suffered from leprosy. At this time, Aramean raiders had

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<v Speaker 3>So Naman told the king what the young girl from

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<v Speaker 3>of Aram told him, I will send a letter of

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<v Speaker 3>So Nama started out carrying as gifts seven hundred fifty

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<v Speaker 3>I want you to heal him of his leprosy. When

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<v Speaker 3>the King of Israel read the letter, he tore his

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<v Speaker 3>clothes and Dismayn said, this man sends me a leopard

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<v Speaker 3>to heal am I God that I can give life

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<v Speaker 3>and take it away. I can see that he's just

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<v Speaker 3>trying to pick a fight with me. But when Elijah,

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<v Speaker 3>had torn his clothes and dismay, he sent this message

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<v Speaker 3>to him, Why are you so upset? Send name it

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<v Speaker 3>to me and he will learn that there is a

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<v Speaker 3>true prophet here in Israel. So Namon went with his

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<v Speaker 3>horses and chariots and waited at the door of Elisia's house.

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<v Speaker 3>But Elisha sent a messenger out to him with this message,

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<v Speaker 3>go and wash yourself seven times in the Jordan river,

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<v Speaker 3>and then your skin will be restored and you'll be

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<v Speaker 3>healed of your leprosy. But Naman became angry and stalked

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<v Speaker 3>away I thought he would certainly come out to meet me,

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<v Speaker 3>he said, I expected him to wave his hand over

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<v Speaker 3>the leprosy and call in the name of the Lord

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<v Speaker 3>is God and heal me. Aren't the rivers of Damascus,

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<v Speaker 3>the Abana, and the far par better than any of

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<v Speaker 3>the rivers of Israel, Why shouldn't I wash in them

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<v Speaker 3>and be healed? So name In turned and went away

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<v Speaker 3>in a rage. But his officers tried to reason with him,

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<v Speaker 3>and said, Sir, if the prophet had told you to

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<v Speaker 3>do something very difficult, wouldn't you have done it? So

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<v Speaker 3>you should certainly obey him when he says, simply go

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<v Speaker 3>and wash and be cured. So Naman went down to

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<v Speaker 3>the Jordan river and dipped himself seven times as the

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<v Speaker 3>Man of God had instructed, and his skin became as

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<v Speaker 3>healthy as the skin of a young child, and he

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<v Speaker 3>was healed. Then name And and his entire party went back

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<v Speaker 3>to find the Man of God, and they stood before him.

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<v Speaker 3>Namon said, now I know that there is no God

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<v Speaker 3>in all the world except in Israel, So please accept

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<v Speaker 3>a gift from your servant. But Elisha replied, as surely

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<v Speaker 3>as the Lord lives whom I serve, I will not

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<v Speaker 3>accept any gifts. And though Namon urged him to take

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<v Speaker 3>the gift, Elisha refused. Then Namon said, all right, but

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<v Speaker 3>please allow me to load two of my mules with

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<v Speaker 3>earth from this place, and I will take it back

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<v Speaker 3>home with me. From now on, I will never again

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<v Speaker 3>offer burnt offerings or sacrifices to any other god except

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<v Speaker 3>the Lord. However, may the Lord pardon me in this

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<v Speaker 3>one thing. When my master, the King, goes into the

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<v Speaker 3>temple of the Roman of the god Reiman to worship

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<v Speaker 3>there and leans on my arm, may the Lord pardon

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<v Speaker 3>me when I bow to go in peace? Elisha said,

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<v Speaker 3>So Naman started home again.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, wow, there you go. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And so he's acknowledging that he's gonna have to go home.

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<v Speaker 1>And because he's under the authority of his king, he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to bow to a false god. He says, he's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna lean on my arm, he's going to require me

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<v Speaker 1>to bow and uh. And he says, so, I'm probably

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have to bow there.

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<v Speaker 3>Out of respect for the king.

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<v Speaker 1>Out of respect for the king, So please pardon me.

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<v Speaker 3>And then and then Elijah, by the way, the Bible

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<v Speaker 3>just says go in peace. It doesn't say he pardons right,

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<v Speaker 3>there is no pardon.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I wonder how that? Yeah, how that is?

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<v Speaker 1>It's interesting, isn't it? How? You know? Uh? His reaction

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<v Speaker 1>is puzzling to me, right is it because? Is it

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<v Speaker 1>because you know he wanted to see Elisha in person?

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<v Speaker 1>That's probably it, isn't it. His reaction is, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to do go go dip myself. He said, I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted the prophet to come out and at least meet me.

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<v Speaker 1>I travel all this way, and you sent a servant.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a respect thing, right, he's a commander.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, And then you're only sending me to the to

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<v Speaker 1>the this nasty old muddy river.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. I get rivers at home that are better.

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<v Speaker 3>Right it, Come and meet me as an equal, yeah

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<v Speaker 3>right right, that's his thing. And then yep, this is dumb, right, right,

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<v Speaker 3>this is dumb.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>You I expected you to wave a magic wand that's

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<v Speaker 1>what he's said.

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<v Speaker 2>I expect you.

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<v Speaker 1>To wave over me in this miraculous, unbelievable, dramatic miracle.

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<v Speaker 3>I've got this in my head. How I want you

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<v Speaker 3>to do it and God to do it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But at the same time, he says, oh, I can

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<v Speaker 1>just go and simply wash. And then then the advice

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<v Speaker 1>is what did he say? But the officers tried to

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<v Speaker 1>rease with them, so it was it was really the

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<v Speaker 1>officers who were the voice of reason.

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<v Speaker 2>Here.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen, if you told you to do a million push ups,

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<v Speaker 3>would you done a million push ups?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>If you told you to climb the tallest mountain, would

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<v Speaker 3>you have climb the tallest mountain?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>Right? You would have done hard things?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>Try it right?

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<v Speaker 2>Do this easy thing?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So he did it, and it's as soft as

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<v Speaker 1>as a young child.

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<v Speaker 2>He was healed. That's pretty amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>And have you ever heard if you'd only dipped himself

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<v Speaker 3>six times, it wouldn't have happened. Do you hear any

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<v Speaker 3>preaching on that?

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<v Speaker 2>Huh?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? So when I was a teenager of Zetti Youth

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<v Speaker 3>Conference and a pretty famous preacher preached this message and

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<v Speaker 3>it had seven points and each of them was you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and I don't remember the whole message. I just remember

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<v Speaker 3>it was the seventh time it was complete obedience. It

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't partial obedience. He didn't get healed for walking in

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<v Speaker 3>the water. He didn't get healed for going down the

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<v Speaker 3>second time. Yeah, it was you know, it took seven times.

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<v Speaker 3>And so you talk about coming up out of the water,

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<v Speaker 3>and nothing is different. Nothing was different at three, nothing

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<v Speaker 3>was different at four. Everybody standing on the bank watching

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<v Speaker 3>to see. And there's an expectation that maybe you'd be

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit better at this time than last time.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Washing is a progressive thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, And so you'd think it'd be better, and

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<v Speaker 3>it wasn't. It wasn't better. So now it's getting embarrassing.

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<v Speaker 3>This idiot didn't come out and treat you like a man.

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<v Speaker 3>He didn't give you any respect. And now you're in

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<v Speaker 3>this muddy and if you've seen the Jordan River, it's

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<v Speaker 3>a muddy river. And we did baptisms in the in

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<v Speaker 3>the Jordan River and it was gross, right, and so

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<v Speaker 3>it's this muddy river, all this stuff. He's right, the

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<v Speaker 3>beauty near Damascus in those rivers, versus this one. Number five,

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<v Speaker 3>he comes out of the water, Nothing is different. Number six,

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<v Speaker 3>he comes out of the water. Nothing is different. But

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<v Speaker 3>it's God's it's complete obedience to God's word is what

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<v Speaker 3>brings the miracles, right, complete obedience to what God said.

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<v Speaker 3>And there was a humility in it. He was it

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<v Speaker 3>was his own pride that was offended that Elisha wouldn't

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<v Speaker 3>come out. It was his own pride that was offended

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<v Speaker 3>that he had to go dip himself seven times in

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<v Speaker 3>this dirty Jewish water, right, it was it was his

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<v Speaker 3>own pride that was offended on every level. And then

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<v Speaker 3>it would be particularly embarrassing after time, you know how

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<v Speaker 3>it is. It's embarrassing to do a thing one time

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<v Speaker 3>in front of a crowd, you know what I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a because at this point everybody knows he doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>the crowd is just looking. And then you're looking and

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<v Speaker 3>you're still covered in in your your your leprosy. Leprosy

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<v Speaker 3>is one of those things that you know, people just

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<v Speaker 3>get a little bit of ezema and they cover up completely.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't want to be seen, right, And but leprosy.

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<v Speaker 3>His body is rotting, is what's happening, right, Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 3>and and he's got you know a lot of times

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<v Speaker 3>it's swollen. They can lose body parts from it, They

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<v Speaker 3>lose feeling, all that stuff. When you get wet, you

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<v Speaker 3>get really exposed. And he didn't walk down in his armor,

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<v Speaker 3>He didn't walk down, probably in all of his you know,

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<v Speaker 3>heavy stuff. He probably walked down with his little clothes

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<v Speaker 3>on as possible. Yeah, and then there's some embarrassment there

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<v Speaker 3>coming out of the water completely soaked. No difference, everybody

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<v Speaker 3>can see there's no difference. But the miracle happened when

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<v Speaker 3>he completely fought. Which, by the way, seven is the

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<v Speaker 3>number of perfection. Yeah, it's God's number.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember when I was in my youth group, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>as a teenager, we were filming these videos back in

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<v Speaker 1>the days where you'd had videos on your shoulders, you

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<v Speaker 1>know the roalge Goil wins right yeah, time cam quorders, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>big camp course, and we were creating videos for the

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<v Speaker 1>of course with teenagers, one big one is so big.

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<v Speaker 3>Your parents, right yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And so we created three scenarios and so myself I

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<v Speaker 1>was the I played the teenager, and then my buddy

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Miller played the parent and he had like a

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<v Speaker 1>sweater around with these glasses and he goes take off

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<v Speaker 1>the trash, right, and I had I had my cap

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<v Speaker 1>on backwards, and I was probably only fourteenth the time,

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<v Speaker 1>ye fifteen, sixteen, something like that, and so so I

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<v Speaker 1>did it with attitude. So the first so I did

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<v Speaker 1>three I did three different takes. The first time, I yelled, screamed,

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<v Speaker 1>yelled at my dad, took out the track. I did

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<v Speaker 1>it with attitude and came back. And then we paused

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<v Speaker 1>the video and said, now is that obedience right? Because

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<v Speaker 1>we did it, but we did it begrudgingly. We went

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<v Speaker 1>through the actions, but it wasn't it wasn't true obedience

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<v Speaker 1>because it wasn't you know, obedient, you know, with the

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<v Speaker 1>intent of of you know, respect and authority and everything else.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was the first one.

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<v Speaker 1>The same case scenario was he said take up the trash,

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<v Speaker 1>but I was playing a video game, and I said, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>in a minute, and then he had to tell me

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<v Speaker 1>to take up the trash like nineteen times, and then

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<v Speaker 1>it was like an hour two hours later, we fast

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<v Speaker 1>forward the clock and then I finally took up the trash,

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<v Speaker 1>and so we paused.

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<v Speaker 2>The video, said was that obedience right?

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<v Speaker 1>So I eventually did it, but I didn't do it

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<v Speaker 1>when the command was given, right, So what was that?

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<v Speaker 3>Was that ob disobedience before the obedience?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, that's right?

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<v Speaker 1>And then The third scenario was I didn't obey.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't take up the trash.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually I remember I actually took it in the backyard

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<v Speaker 1>and then I chucked it over the fence in the

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<v Speaker 1>neighbor's yard, right, So that was like right, So in

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<v Speaker 1>other words, I just didn't obey. And then the fourth

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<v Speaker 1>scenario was the right scenario where actually took it out.

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<v Speaker 2>And so it's like which.

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<v Speaker 3>One was obedience sounds like a riveting Well, I wonder

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<v Speaker 3>why I've never seen this video.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you know what. I think it was good

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<v Speaker 2>only to the people who knew.

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff and I Yeah, sure, yeah, so they thought was funny.

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<v Speaker 2>But the principle is sound.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure yeah, right, yeah, I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>All three, all three of those scenarios are actually a

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<v Speaker 1>really good lesson. And it's exactly what you're saying seven times, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like you got to obey, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>he says to do. You know how many times he

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<v Speaker 1>has to say, you know, do it and follow God's instructions,

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<v Speaker 1>and so you know, do it with a good attitude,

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<v Speaker 1>do it right away, do exactly what he asks, and

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<v Speaker 1>then just trust. And that's really the definition of obedience.

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<v Speaker 3>So the message or the notes in the Life Application

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<v Speaker 3>Study Bible for verse twelve says name and left in

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<v Speaker 3>a rage because the cure for his disease seemed too simple.

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<v Speaker 3>He was a hero, and he expected a heroic cure

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<v Speaker 3>full of pride and self will. Name and could not

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<v Speaker 3>accept the simple cure of faith. Sometimes people react to

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<v Speaker 3>God's offer of forgiveness in the same way. Just to

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<v Speaker 3>believe in Jesus somehow doesn't seem significant enough to bring

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<v Speaker 3>eternal life. To obey God's commands doesn't seem heroic. What

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<v Speaker 3>Naman had to do to have his leprosy washed away

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<v Speaker 3>is similar to what we must do to have our

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<v Speaker 3>sin washed away. Humbly accept God's mercy. Yeah, don't let

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<v Speaker 3>your reaction to the way of faith keep you from

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<v Speaker 3>the cure that you need the most. That's great. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that's great, And that was it. God's going to do

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<v Speaker 3>it God's way. And then after this, after he's healed,

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<v Speaker 3>Elisha goes, no, I'm not going to accept any money

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<v Speaker 3>from you that you can't buy God's blessing, right right,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just gonna accept. I'm just gonna heal you. And

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<v Speaker 3>then he goes, Okay, well, then let me take some dirt.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to take it home just to remember. And

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<v Speaker 3>do you ever do that, You ever grab a little

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<v Speaker 3>sand or something from a vacation or something that you'd

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<v Speaker 3>never want to forget or remember. I've got a little

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<v Speaker 3>vile of water from the Jordan River. I've got sand

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<v Speaker 3>from different places around the world world.

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<v Speaker 1>I have Yeah, I have a garden garden against se

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<v Speaker 1>many sand.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh huh.

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<v Speaker 2>And I have seave Galilee water. Oh yeah. Hey, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I always thought the dirt was. I always

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<v Speaker 2>thought the.

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<v Speaker 1>Dirt was because he implied that he was only going

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<v Speaker 1>to sacrifice to the Lord God. I thought what he

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<v Speaker 1>was going to do is do his offerings on that

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<v Speaker 1>plot of land. Yeah maybe does what does he say,

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<v Speaker 1>Please allow me to load two mules with dirt from

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<v Speaker 1>this place, which seems like a pretty significant amount of dirt.

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<v Speaker 2>Two mules, yeah worth and they can carry a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. I will go back and take it home with me,

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<v Speaker 1>and from now on I will never again offer burnt

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<v Speaker 1>offerings to any sacrifices to any other God except the Lord.

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<v Speaker 1>See for me, it sounds like those things are connected.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Like I think there are two separate sentences for sure,

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, they could be connected.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so that's that's where I read it, Like, like,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you gonna use that dirt for a buddy?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, he's going to build an altar, right right?

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe yeah? Yeah, maybe, yeah, that's pretty great. And then

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<v Speaker 3>finally you get this, you know, help me. Let me

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<v Speaker 3>give you one note here It says, when we talked

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<v Speaker 3>about him asking for permission to bow, says, how could

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<v Speaker 3>Naman be forgiven for bowing to a pagan idol? Namon

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<v Speaker 3>was not asking for permission to worship the god remen

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<v Speaker 3>the god at Damascus, but to do with civil duty

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<v Speaker 3>by helping the king get down and up as he bowed.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, because he leaned on his arm, right, that's what

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<v Speaker 2>he was meaning.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so hey, I'm not worshiping. I'm just helping the

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<v Speaker 3>king up and down. That's my job. Oh right, Does

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<v Speaker 3>that makes sense?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Because because he did say as the king leans on

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<v Speaker 1>my arm, which is a weird sentence, right, because if

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<v Speaker 1>the king was fully able, right, if he was an

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<v Speaker 1>able bodied person pressing and leaning on somebody's arm, what

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<v Speaker 1>even makes sense Unless what he's doing is he's forcing

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<v Speaker 1>him to bow.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm leaning on my arm. But that even even makes sense.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, no, he's helping the king.

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<v Speaker 2>That's exactly He's helping the king. It's only he can.

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<v Speaker 3>So he's trying to send the message. Hey, I'm just

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<v Speaker 3>just forgive me if it looks like I'm bowing, because

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not. That's what he's saying.

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<v Speaker 2>That's awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And then this other note that as you were reading that,

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<v Speaker 1>this note says we must remember that number one, God's

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<v Speaker 1>ways our best. Number two, God wants our obedience more

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<v Speaker 1>than anything else. Number three, God can use anything to

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<v Speaker 1>accomplish his purposes.

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<v Speaker 3>Including dirty rivers, including dirty rivers. Yeat, that's great. Well, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't have even noticed the or thought of that

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<v Speaker 3>with Naman if it hadn't been for a study Bible.

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<v Speaker 3>So get yourself a good study.

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<v Speaker 2>Bye. I'm telling you they out of pass woralthies for promoting.

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<v Speaker 3>I know they don't. But you can get a hardcover

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<v Speaker 3>on Amazon for like twenty bucks. Yeah, they're not expensive.

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>We Hey, that is our time, and soepefully we will

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<v Speaker 1>see you next week on the Bible.

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<v Speaker 3>Guys,