WEBVTT NOTE This file was generated by Descript 00:00:12.084 --> 00:00:18.144 Welcome to Transformative Principal, where I help you stop putting out fires and start leading. 00:00:18.654 --> 00:00:20.154 I'm your host, Jethro Jones. 00:00:20.154 --> 00:00:22.854 You can follow me on Twitter at Jethro Jones. 00:00:22.854 --> 00:00:22.914 Okay. 00:00:35.195 --> 00:00:37.295 Welcome to Transformative Principal. 00:00:37.295 --> 00:00:38.795 I am your host, Jethro Jones. 00:00:38.795 --> 00:00:41.855 You can find me on all the social networks at Jethro Jones. 00:00:41.915 --> 00:00:49.475 I am excited today to have on the program Tyler Lafferty, and he is the executive director and founder of Slingshot. 00:00:49.835 --> 00:00:51.605 He's a longtime entrepreneur. 00:00:51.605 --> 00:00:55.080 He's built five successful companies and digital marketing advertising. 00:00:55.610 --> 00:01:09.890 Media and health and fitness, and this has been over the last 20 years, and he is produced services purchased by multi-billion dollar companies and clients across the nation, including at and t, Amazon, Nike, Nintendo, MTV, TikTok, Disney, and many others. 00:01:09.890 --> 00:01:11.540 But we're not here to talk about all that. 00:01:12.110 --> 00:01:17.630 We are here to talk about our kids and the future and his current. 00:01:18.050 --> 00:01:23.300 Venture called Slingshot, which you can learn about@helloslingshot.org. 00:01:23.690 --> 00:01:26.030 And uh, Tyler, welcome to the program. 00:01:26.030 --> 00:01:28.670 Why don't you start by telling us about what Slingshot is? 00:01:29.135 --> 00:01:30.455 Yeah, thanks Jethro. 00:01:30.515 --> 00:01:36.785 Um, so Slingshot is, uh, ultimately what we're trying to do is help young people. 00:01:36.815 --> 00:01:42.335 We're trying to coach purposeful direction, trying to help them better align themselves their unique skills. 00:01:43.445 --> 00:01:57.125 Their personality, uh, to a, uh, job that's gonna be more aligned and, and to an industry that they can dream big about and be excited about, to wake up every single day and go into that industry to do that work. 00:01:57.125 --> 00:02:04.355 So really trying to open their eyes to possibilities that are out there, and then show them how to connect the dots, how to make it a reality. 00:02:05.090 --> 00:02:23.390 to go forward and whether that's, you know, validating these ideas, whether that's building connections with, you know, professionals in an effort to build that network, um, for moving forward, but really trying to show them the techniques to, to, to, to do that alignment on the front end and then to go and, and, and make those connections on the back backend. 00:02:24.215 --> 00:02:29.215 Yeah, so let me explain why we're talking about this and this. 00:02:29.300 --> 00:02:36.920 Is very personal to me, uh, because I love learning and I love helping other people learn. 00:02:37.250 --> 00:02:43.850 And so I thought that the only option for me was to be a KK 12 educator. 00:02:43.905 --> 00:02:44.195 Sure. 00:02:44.330 --> 00:02:48.920 And I didn't realize that there were so many other things that I could have done. 00:02:49.460 --> 00:02:52.370 Uh, probably because I wasn't super engaged in school. 00:02:52.520 --> 00:02:55.460 And, uh, I also had a little. 00:02:55.895 --> 00:03:01.805 You know, wanted to stick it to the, the teachers that I had who didn't do a good job preparing me for the future, 00:03:01.835 --> 00:03:02.315 Right. 00:03:02.705 --> 00:03:03.245 my opinion. 00:03:03.695 --> 00:03:06.995 And, uh, and wanted to, um. 00:03:07.880 --> 00:03:10.220 I, I just love helping people learn. 00:03:10.220 --> 00:03:27.890 I think it's really fascinating and fun to do, but I didn't realize there were so many other things I could done besides be a teacher, and that there's so many different opportunities out there, and I want to be part of solutions that help kids see that there are a lot of different things out there for them. 00:03:28.010 --> 00:03:32.150 And that, um, that the, the main, uh. 00:03:32.855 --> 00:03:35.675 Main jobs that exist are not the only ones that are out there. 00:03:35.675 --> 00:03:42.275 And, and one of my dreams is to start a podcast about crazy jobs that people have that are just off the wall. 00:03:42.275 --> 00:03:46.895 Because every time I talk to somebody, I'm just amazed at what they do. 00:03:46.925 --> 00:04:01.475 So, so that's why this is personal to me and why I think it's valuable to have you on the show and to, to talk about this because I love this idea about helping kids dream big about their future and then connect the dots to get to where they want to be. 00:04:01.620 --> 00:04:01.950 Yeah. 00:04:01.955 --> 00:04:09.845 And the biggest thing that I hear from kids is that they really, most kids don't know what they want to do when they grow up. 00:04:09.935 --> 00:04:13.325 And like, where do you start with that? 00:04:13.325 --> 00:04:17.975 Because that seems like an important thing to figure out before you can start connecting the dots to that. 00:04:18.245 --> 00:04:18.935 Right, right. 00:04:18.935 --> 00:04:23.405 Well, and, and not only that, but trying to remind kids that you're not trying to find. 00:04:24.245 --> 00:04:26.165 You know the one thing you're supposed to do. 00:04:26.165 --> 00:04:28.715 I don't believe in a path to singular discovery. 00:04:28.715 --> 00:04:30.605 It's not, it's not a one true love. 00:04:30.605 --> 00:04:33.035 It's not the one thing you're supposed to kind of find out about yourself. 00:04:33.035 --> 00:04:40.805 You're a multifaceted, amazing human being that could do all sorts of really fantastic things that ultimately you could find fulfillment in. 00:04:40.955 --> 00:04:47.315 So why don't we open the door a little wider to possibilities, to learning to. 00:04:47.615 --> 00:04:55.985 And I always, you know, I remind people what you're doing at uh, 22 is likely different than what you'd be doing at 28, which is likely different than what you'll be doing at 35. 00:04:55.985 --> 00:04:57.035 And that's okay. 00:04:57.035 --> 00:04:58.445 Like be open to the journey. 00:04:58.445 --> 00:04:59.675 We call it the winding path. 00:05:00.005 --> 00:05:05.495 Be open to the winding path and everything there is to learn along the way with that growth mindset, right? 00:05:05.495 --> 00:05:12.875 If I have a growth mindset about kind of what I'm doing and where I can go and, and, and how I can progress along the way that I'm not really having failures. 00:05:12.875 --> 00:05:14.405 I'm just learning along the way. 00:05:14.405 --> 00:05:15.905 No, no losing, just learning. 00:05:15.905 --> 00:05:16.355 We say. 00:05:16.760 --> 00:05:26.930 And if we can get young people to kind of see that as they think about their future, you know, we're trying to reduce that stress and anxiety and fear that comes with trying to figure this out. 00:05:26.960 --> 00:05:31.070 'cause so many young people are freaked out about, I gotta know exactly what I'm gonna do. 00:05:31.070 --> 00:05:40.160 And especially if I'm going on to, you know, some post-secondary thing, like college and I'm, and I'm thinking about, um, choosing the right major and then trying to get the right job. 00:05:40.160 --> 00:05:42.440 And, and, and I, it, it just, it, it. 00:05:43.430 --> 00:05:44.060 I hate that. 00:05:44.060 --> 00:05:44.510 I hate that. 00:05:44.510 --> 00:05:46.460 You know, mental health is real, right? 00:05:46.460 --> 00:05:52.010 And we've gotta be, you know, careful with our young people, especially coming out of the pandemic and everything that kind of happened during that. 00:05:52.010 --> 00:05:59.210 And, and for them to just open their eyes to big opportunities and they're gonna grow and learn and do you know good things? 00:05:59.735 --> 00:06:03.185 What we're trying to do is help them get aligned with who they are. 00:06:03.245 --> 00:06:11.975 I don't want to create, you know, them to get into a situation, create friction about, I'm doing something that, this isn't at all what I love, but I joke and call it the path of least resistance. 00:06:11.975 --> 00:06:17.765 My, my mom, you know, works at the bank or my dad sells insurance, and so I'm just gonna choose one of those. 00:06:17.765 --> 00:06:18.455 'cause it's what I know. 00:06:18.455 --> 00:06:19.895 It's my path of least resistance. 00:06:19.895 --> 00:06:24.005 And like, well, is, is that totally aligned with who you are and what you wanna do and where you want to go? 00:06:24.455 --> 00:06:25.295 Probably not. 00:06:25.295 --> 00:06:25.835 Maybe not. 00:06:25.865 --> 00:06:26.435 Maybe it is. 00:06:26.435 --> 00:06:27.365 And more power to you. 00:06:28.220 --> 00:06:41.330 really getting kids to say or to see that if we can help them have that agency to just dream a little bit bigger, to see how those dots might connect and then show them what you do to move down that path to make it a reality. 00:06:41.660 --> 00:06:46.580 I created something called the Ideas Framework, and that's really the, the step by step. 00:06:46.580 --> 00:06:55.700 I wrote this book called Be More Like You, it was about, um, helping, uh, helping young people see what this path could look like. 00:06:55.700 --> 00:06:56.150 So it's. 00:06:56.510 --> 00:06:57.620 Introspection. 00:06:57.830 --> 00:07:01.850 Design, exploration, adaptability, and service. 00:07:01.850 --> 00:07:03.350 The introspection is the is. 00:07:03.530 --> 00:07:11.900 We spend a lot of time in better understanding who you are, what are your core skills, what are you innately gifted with, what's your personality type, which I like to say is how do you show up in the world? 00:07:11.900 --> 00:07:12.800 What does that look like? 00:07:13.070 --> 00:07:16.730 And obviously your skills and your personality. 00:07:17.555 --> 00:07:27.155 going to gel more into certain job types that you're gonna find more fulfilling just 'cause it's, it's leveraging your skills and what you're good at and that just feels good when you're doing that kind of work. 00:07:27.425 --> 00:07:34.535 And so we do a lot of work in that introspection phase to better understand kind of who you are as a human so that you can apply that to a job type. 00:07:34.895 --> 00:07:41.375 And then in introspection we do this, um, we call it industry mapping, where we dream big about possibilities. 00:07:42.035 --> 00:07:48.005 Uh, about, you know, industries that maybe you never thought of as, as, as real for someone like you to move into. 00:07:48.005 --> 00:07:56.795 And what I hear from so many young people after we do this, whether it's a college seminar or within the high schools that we work in, is I'll hear young people say. 00:07:57.140 --> 00:08:04.430 You made me realize I was dreaming way too small, like what I actually was thinking of, and the possibilities was way too small. 00:08:04.430 --> 00:08:13.580 And so we're opening their eyes to such bigger opportunities and showing them how to connect the dots, which is really, you get into the deed to design phase, which is designing the plan. 00:08:13.580 --> 00:08:23.360 And, and really, I, I jokingly should have called it the research phase, uh, because it's researching the companies, it's researching the job types to better understand and know about these. 00:08:23.540 --> 00:08:25.820 It's researching the path of how to get there. 00:08:26.135 --> 00:08:34.775 It's researching the people, the actual humans that are doing this work, because in the e, the exploration phase, we're gonna get you hooked up with those people. 00:08:34.775 --> 00:08:47.345 We want you to go and have an informational interview, a job shadow, an internship, but we wanna get you to a point where you're actually talking to someone who's doing that job that you're interested in, whether it's in person, whether it's over the phone, whether it's virtual. 00:08:47.675 --> 00:08:50.225 But we want you to have a, you know, meaningful conversation asking. 00:08:50.675 --> 00:08:51.755 Tell me about your job. 00:08:51.845 --> 00:08:52.985 What's a day in the life? 00:08:53.165 --> 00:08:54.335 How did you get here? 00:08:54.575 --> 00:08:57.305 What advice do you have for someone like me who might wanna move in this direction? 00:08:57.305 --> 00:09:01.535 But you know, using that to better understand and validate, is this a direction you want to go? 00:09:01.535 --> 00:09:04.085 That exploration phase can be so good because 00:09:04.180 --> 00:09:04.260 Hmm. 00:09:04.445 --> 00:09:07.865 you and I both know so many young people can romanticize jobs. 00:09:07.865 --> 00:09:09.215 Like, oh, this would be so cool. 00:09:09.215 --> 00:09:10.325 This is exactly what I'm gonna do. 00:09:11.015 --> 00:09:12.905 they go talk to a professional that's doing that work. 00:09:12.905 --> 00:09:17.045 They better understand what the day in their life is, and they're like, oh, uh, yeah, maybe not. 00:09:17.435 --> 00:09:18.725 That wasn't at all what I thought, and it's 00:09:18.725 --> 00:09:18.935 Well, 00:09:19.115 --> 00:09:19.535 right. 00:09:19.805 --> 00:09:28.835 and that piece is so fascinating because so many times you think like I. You're young, you think I can do anything right? 00:09:28.895 --> 00:09:30.515 And, and there's a lot of truth to that. 00:09:30.815 --> 00:09:37.235 But then you think, I wanna make a lot of money and provide for my family and not be poor and, and take care of people and all that. 00:09:37.235 --> 00:09:41.915 And so you think maybe I'll do this job because it makes a lot of money and that's, and that's what I need. 00:09:42.440 --> 00:09:45.290 I had an experience like that in college. 00:09:45.590 --> 00:09:52.580 I had a friend who was a lawyer who was, uh, he was a church leader, and so I got to know him that way. 00:09:52.580 --> 00:10:03.050 And then I asked him what it was like being a lawyer and he was like, you basically are doing research and writing all the time and you rarely interact with people. 00:10:03.050 --> 00:10:04.760 And I was like, I thought lawyers were like. 00:10:05.270 --> 00:10:07.400 In court, like debating all the time. 00:10:07.400 --> 00:10:10.670 And he is like, that is a very tiny, tiny part of what I do. 00:10:11.150 --> 00:10:14.330 And I was like, oh, I need something where I interact with people. 00:10:14.330 --> 00:10:19.130 I know that I didn't know a lot when I was in college, but I knew I needed to be able to interact with people. 00:10:19.130 --> 00:10:26.105 And if I didn't have that, it would be I. Really, really tough and you know, hence why I am doing podcasts now. 00:10:27.305 --> 00:10:27.785 Yeah. 00:10:28.115 --> 00:10:32.645 I love it because I get talk to interesting people and, and be able to go deep. 00:10:32.645 --> 00:10:36.335 So I, I interrupted you on that, uh, to share that story. 00:10:36.335 --> 00:10:39.335 But, uh, go on about the other parts of the ideas framework. 00:10:39.380 --> 00:10:39.860 appreciate that. 00:10:39.860 --> 00:10:40.880 And you're totally right though. 00:10:40.880 --> 00:10:49.700 I mean, I, and well, and like I said, so many young people have this, you know, what I saw on TV or what I, you know, saw on TikTok or what I, you know, I believe to be that job. 00:10:50.465 --> 00:10:53.555 I don't have a problem with that feeling, but you need to go validate it. 00:10:53.555 --> 00:10:55.445 Is that truly what it is and what it means to you? 00:10:55.445 --> 00:11:05.165 And so we push this e exploration, this, this idea that you need to go and, and a validate those ideas and, and a, is this something what you were thinking? 00:11:05.165 --> 00:11:08.105 And it's, and I always tell young people, are you leaning into this conversation? 00:11:08.105 --> 00:11:08.885 Is it interesting? 00:11:08.885 --> 00:11:11.015 Does that something that's kind of lighting you up and exciting you? 00:11:11.330 --> 00:11:12.380 Or are you leaning out? 00:11:12.440 --> 00:11:16.940 Oh, that's not at all what I thought and wasn't, you know, what I was, what, where I thought this would go. 00:11:17.690 --> 00:11:23.960 so a, it's, it's all about validation of, of your thoughts and ideas of, of is this job type, is this industry where I want to go? 00:11:24.290 --> 00:11:26.450 But B, it's also about networking. 00:11:26.450 --> 00:11:29.165 So I. Young people struggle. 00:11:29.165 --> 00:11:32.345 I, all of us struggled with, you know, what does networking actually look like for us? 00:11:32.345 --> 00:11:36.155 And, and that social capital is the, is the term that keeps coming up. 00:11:36.155 --> 00:11:50.285 And more and more educators I talk to in, in this, in this industry, this, this idea of young people not having social capital, especially after Covid d and, and needing this, that idea of these connections. 00:11:50.375 --> 00:11:52.325 'cause we all know that it's really about, you know. 00:11:52.560 --> 00:11:54.510 Who you know is, it does matter. 00:11:54.840 --> 00:12:01.170 And having this social capital, these connections with people, which absolutely can be done by the student. 00:12:01.200 --> 00:12:04.440 It doesn't have to be, oh, well my parents don't know anybody or, or whatever. 00:12:04.770 --> 00:12:05.340 That's fine. 00:12:06.240 --> 00:12:15.780 teach them and coach them on how they can go out, reach out to somebody that they don't know at all, and actually build a connection with them to have, you know, a meaningful conversation about the work. 00:12:15.780 --> 00:12:20.100 And so, and I've seen it time and time again, Jethro, where someone. 00:12:20.480 --> 00:12:28.040 Does an informational interview with somebody and, and builds a, a connection now has them in their LinkedIn or whatever it might be in their network. 00:12:28.370 --> 00:12:35.960 And then two to three years later actually gets a job through that person at their company because they were hiring and they stayed in touch. 00:12:35.960 --> 00:12:38.120 They saw that they posted it on LinkedIn or something like that. 00:12:38.120 --> 00:12:38.900 And then it happens. 00:12:39.050 --> 00:12:45.110 And so this is really that social capital we coach young people on how to build it for themselves. 00:12:45.380 --> 00:12:49.160 And that's really important 'cause we do work across the the socioeconomic spectrum. 00:12:49.325 --> 00:12:54.335 And so of course a lot of these young people that we work with don't have these family relationships or that kind of thing. 00:12:54.335 --> 00:12:56.915 So we teach them how do you go out and build those? 00:12:56.915 --> 00:12:59.015 How do you, what does it look like to reach out to somebody? 00:12:59.015 --> 00:13:00.575 What's the email that you send? 00:13:00.905 --> 00:13:03.035 Um, what are the questions that you ask? 00:13:03.035 --> 00:13:04.835 Once you get the chance to have these conversations? 00:13:05.045 --> 00:13:11.135 We believe wholeheartedly in that exploration phase and why it's so important and why they need to grow as a human being in that. 00:13:11.135 --> 00:13:12.725 So that's the exploration phase. 00:13:13.685 --> 00:13:14.855 is adaptability. 00:13:14.855 --> 00:13:15.275 Adapt. 00:13:15.410 --> 00:13:22.700 Lemme ask another question, um, because this, this is something that, uh, that a lot of people don't understand. 00:13:23.555 --> 00:13:27.605 Everybody, everybody loves to be an expert, right? 00:13:27.805 --> 00:13:28.045 Sure. 00:13:28.205 --> 00:13:37.775 if you're an expert on just your thing in your one little niche area, it feels really good to have somebody say, Hey, tell me about this. 00:13:37.775 --> 00:13:39.635 I don't know anything about it, and I wanna learn. 00:13:39.905 --> 00:13:47.585 Like everybody really enjoys being able to say, here's this thing that I'm pouring my life into and let me share it with you. 00:13:47.585 --> 00:13:52.205 And that's why this is such a powerful thing to do and to teach kids how to do. 00:13:53.015 --> 00:14:19.775 Because the other part of that is that if it's a teenager reaching out saying, I want to know more about this, people are so willing to give their time and energy to someone who's curious about things and, and so when you say like, you don't have to have connections, you really don't, because I've had many teenagers reach out to me about podcasts and I'm like, I would love to give you advice, tips, anything that I can do to help you. 00:14:20.075 --> 00:14:27.065 Figure out your place in the world with this thing and um, you know, that would be fascinating. 00:14:27.200 --> 00:14:30.110 Jethro, I agree 177%. 00:14:30.170 --> 00:14:35.090 Let me just take this one step further in this in, because you know so many of your listeners are educators. 00:14:35.960 --> 00:14:38.240 seen this happen a lot with educators 00:14:40.310 --> 00:14:42.920 They'll say, oh, I don't wanna reach out to them. 00:14:42.980 --> 00:14:43.400 I don't, 00:14:43.470 --> 00:14:43.760 Yeah. 00:14:43.790 --> 00:14:45.140 ask them to come to my classroom. 00:14:45.140 --> 00:14:46.400 I don't wanna bother them. 00:14:46.400 --> 00:14:49.580 I don't wanna, and I, I think honestly, it's a little bit of a cop out. 00:14:49.610 --> 00:14:49.730 I 00:14:50.005 --> 00:14:50.295 Yeah, 00:14:50.480 --> 00:14:55.400 like, it's them not wanting to have, to have that adult interaction themselves with this 00:14:55.515 --> 00:14:55.805 yeah. 00:14:56.390 --> 00:15:00.950 And I remind, I remind, uh, educators all the time, do not. 00:15:01.340 --> 00:15:04.910 Take away that opportunity from that person to help their community. 00:15:05.120 --> 00:15:06.800 They want to help that young person. 00:15:06.800 --> 00:15:08.420 They want to come and speak in your classroom. 00:15:08.420 --> 00:15:09.650 They want to help you. 00:15:10.040 --> 00:15:16.250 And if you don't reach out, you're actually taking that opportunity away from them, which is, which is horrible. 00:15:16.250 --> 00:15:21.350 Like, like allow them to give back to their community, allow them to do something for these young people. 00:15:21.350 --> 00:15:30.380 And, and, and so I always remind teachers that, because I get that all the, I actually created a software program years ago that was like a match.com for, uh. 00:15:31.460 --> 00:15:39.260 and professionals, and we had over 300 professionals in our, in our local area in Spokane that were excited and wanted to give back and said, yeah, absolutely. 00:15:39.260 --> 00:15:42.080 I'll, I'll be an advisor, I'll come speak in the classroom, I'll do whatever. 00:15:42.440 --> 00:15:45.260 And then we had about 200 te um, educators that were on there. 00:15:45.980 --> 00:15:53.720 But the look dirty little secret is a lot of those educators wouldn't actually get on there and do the search for an architect, an engineer or whatever. 00:15:53.960 --> 00:15:56.300 'cause they just like, well, I just don't wanna bother them. 00:15:56.330 --> 00:16:02.270 Well, again, I, I think that just that, that that adult interaction or whatever, they were actually a little bit afraid to do 00:16:02.760 --> 00:16:02.980 Yep. 00:16:03.020 --> 00:16:03.860 and it was kind of a bummer. 00:16:03.860 --> 00:16:06.590 So I, I, I think it's really important to remember that thought. 00:16:07.817 --> 00:16:22.967 So the other thing about that is I created a tool called Creatives for Education where, uh, creative people would, um, would volunteer to take an ugly worksheet that a teacher was doing and turn it into something beautiful 00:16:22.982 --> 00:16:23.252 love 00:16:23.387 --> 00:16:29.687 and yeah, great idea, but I had the same exact problem that teachers wouldn't ask. 00:16:30.062 --> 00:16:31.442 The creatives to do it. 00:16:31.442 --> 00:16:37.562 I had a whole bunch of people who were willing to be like, yeah, I'll turn that worksheet into something beautiful, no problem. 00:16:37.982 --> 00:16:39.752 And then nobody would ask 'em. 00:16:39.752 --> 00:16:44.132 And so I ended up shutting it down because it just didn't, it didn't work out. 00:16:44.192 --> 00:16:48.812 And it's so fascinating to me because people are. 00:16:49.187 --> 00:16:52.307 Anxious and excited to help out. 00:16:52.727 --> 00:16:54.347 Um, but they don't know what to do. 00:16:54.467 --> 00:17:02.807 And they don't, they don't know how to, like, it's, they're not just gonna show up at a school and be like, Hey, can I speak in one of your classrooms? 00:17:03.317 --> 00:17:07.217 Um, you know, that's, that's, that's probably not gonna happen. 00:17:07.217 --> 00:17:07.907 And so. 00:17:08.357 --> 00:17:10.577 They need to be asked, what can we do? 00:17:10.577 --> 00:17:24.977 And I had, I had a friend who was like a distant friend, uh, that I didn't ever talk to, but I, he was a editor on movies in Hollywood and I reached out to him and said, can you talk to my video class about editing? 00:17:25.097 --> 00:17:30.527 And this guy who's literally editing the Marvel movies, the kids are going to see that weekend. 00:17:30.917 --> 00:17:37.487 Is Skyping into my classroom to, uh, to talk to my kids about editing and what it's like as a, to be a real 00:17:37.642 --> 00:17:38.092 cool. 00:17:38.387 --> 00:17:42.797 editor and what an amazing experience for my kids to be able to see that. 00:17:43.427 --> 00:17:48.977 And he was happy to do it and like tried diligently to find time to make it work. 00:17:48.977 --> 00:17:51.587 And I just think that that kind of stuff is so amazing. 00:17:51.587 --> 00:17:56.207 We need to do more of that and get more mentors for our kids in schools. 00:17:56.432 --> 00:17:57.422 I totally agree. 00:17:57.422 --> 00:18:02.852 And, you know, that's where advisory programs come into play, whether it's CTE or that kind of thing. 00:18:02.852 --> 00:18:11.912 Like it's, it's important that we get the schools and the teachers to get excited about this and say, Hey, these are partners you wanna come alongside you. 00:18:11.912 --> 00:18:16.592 That, that, that the, you know, and then you'll hear, and I know you've heard this as, as well as I have a teacher say. 00:18:17.252 --> 00:18:24.302 when I bring a, a, a, a guest speaker in, and that guest speaker says something that I said last week, and the kids all rolled their eyes, but the 00:18:24.417 --> 00:18:24.707 Yeah. 00:18:24.932 --> 00:18:25.232 says it. 00:18:25.232 --> 00:18:26.912 And they're like, wow, okay, cool. 00:18:26.912 --> 00:18:28.532 And they're like, just told you that. 00:18:28.532 --> 00:18:38.642 And it's like, it's just a good reminder for teachers, like, Hey, let's bring in some more people from the, from the business world, from out there in the real world and, and get them to speak in your classrooms and, and give you a break. 00:18:38.642 --> 00:18:40.262 I mean, let you, you know, you know. 00:18:40.592 --> 00:18:44.072 Sit back and let this person, you know, help you and be a part of that. 00:18:44.222 --> 00:18:53.282 I love the teachers that are diligent about like, lining up 2, 3, 4 a semester, you know, of people to come in and speak to kids, a new perspective, something different. 00:18:53.522 --> 00:18:57.662 Like I think that's absolutely valuable and I, I, truth be told, I do think. 00:18:58.022 --> 00:19:05.522 That the business community at, at large has, has kind of fallen down of not being more engaged in education. 00:19:05.852 --> 00:19:16.532 You'll find the, the one, the two, the three businesses that are super jacked and they're, they're the ones that are always, you know, offering job shadows or whatever, and they're the ones that are always at the job fairs and career fairs, which is great. 00:19:16.832 --> 00:19:31.172 But the larger business community as a whole has kind of, you know, sadly in my opinion, has pulled back a little bit and just said, well, we're just waiting for 'em to come to us once they, you know, finish high school or finish college or whatever it might be like, no, you need to go and build this pipeline. 00:19:31.172 --> 00:19:38.432 You need to go and get excited about, you know, these young people that are coming up that are your next generation of employees. 00:19:38.432 --> 00:19:43.202 And so, you know, of course business is about today, business is about the bottom line. 00:19:43.202 --> 00:19:45.212 Business is about like trying to stay. 00:19:45.572 --> 00:19:48.272 Healthy and relevant and what's going on right this moment. 00:19:48.452 --> 00:19:54.062 The idea of investing in this larger five year plan of this, you know, ninth grader who could be an employee of yours. 00:19:54.062 --> 00:19:56.822 You know, coming up is hard for a lot of businesses, 00:19:56.927 --> 00:19:57.347 Yeah. 00:19:57.692 --> 00:19:57.962 if we 00:19:58.067 --> 00:19:58.367 Well, 00:19:58.382 --> 00:20:06.302 a little more excited about that, I think that it would make education as a whole, a better place to see more of that connection between industry and education. 00:20:06.827 --> 00:20:07.097 yeah. 00:20:07.097 --> 00:20:09.407 And it's not just industry that's doing that. 00:20:09.407 --> 00:20:19.817 Education is doing it also by not creating their own, uh, programs for getting kids to become teachers and creating a pipeline for kids to become teachers. 00:20:20.147 --> 00:20:24.407 Like I've been advocating for a long time that a kid should be able to graduate high school. 00:20:24.932 --> 00:20:34.232 Get a job in the district and become a teacher and have the district help pay for their education to become a teacher, that pathway should exist. 00:20:34.232 --> 00:20:49.652 Because if a kid can go from working in a school to, uh, or from being in a school, to working in a school in a different position, not as a teacher, but then becoming a teacher later, they're gonna have a much better connection to the district, to the kids, to the, to everything. 00:20:49.652 --> 00:20:51.632 And, and we haven't done that well. 00:20:51.922 --> 00:20:58.852 The other problem with education is that we, we have made our schools not inviting to other people. 00:20:59.122 --> 00:21:04.312 There's so much stranger danger and like getting through multiple layers of security and all this kind of stuff. 00:21:04.312 --> 00:21:05.302 They're not inviting. 00:21:05.302 --> 00:21:09.562 And you know, when we moved down here to Spokane from Alaska. 00:21:10.207 --> 00:21:15.097 We did not feel like the school wanted us as the parents to come into the school. 00:21:15.367 --> 00:21:29.587 Granted it was during Covid and so there was that issue, but even afterward, it was like, you, you have to ring the buzzer and then the person is a jerk when when they answer, instead of recognizing that you're a parent and saying, Hey, we're glad you're here. 00:21:29.827 --> 00:21:34.897 It's like, state your name and business, and it's like, oh geez, maybe I don't wanna be. 00:21:35.157 --> 00:21:39.267 Coming to this school, and I'm someone who's in education and I want to be there. 00:21:39.267 --> 00:21:43.647 And, and those things still exist, and that's really unfortunate. 00:21:43.647 --> 00:21:46.887 We've gotta find a happy medium between those two, um, 00:21:46.982 --> 00:21:47.372 Yeah. 00:21:47.697 --> 00:21:50.127 both sides that it's not, it's not just the educators. 00:21:50.127 --> 00:21:55.797 They need to reach out, but the businesses need to reach out also and be proactive about creating these pipelines as well. 00:21:55.862 --> 00:21:56.282 Agreed. 00:21:56.372 --> 00:21:56.762 Agreed. 00:21:56.822 --> 00:21:57.452 Absolutely. 00:21:58.232 --> 00:21:58.622 Oh, okay. 00:21:58.622 --> 00:22:02.342 So further down the ideas framework, the A, the A is adaptability. 00:22:02.402 --> 00:22:06.932 Adaptability is just recognizing that we're not all on that right path. 00:22:06.932 --> 00:22:15.992 Sometimes, even though we've done some of this work and we figure out that, you know, we've now we, we've better understood and validated what actually goes into being in this, um, job, this industry. 00:22:16.367 --> 00:22:19.097 Oh, that's not for me, and that's okay. 00:22:19.097 --> 00:22:19.307 Right. 00:22:19.307 --> 00:22:27.977 So I always say it's having that courageous conversation with yourself maybe I'm on the wrong path and that's, and I need to jump back into introspection. 00:22:27.977 --> 00:22:29.357 I need to do a little bit more work there. 00:22:29.357 --> 00:22:33.617 And we need to look at a different job type within maybe the same industry or a different industry. 00:22:33.932 --> 00:22:38.012 But just recognizing that that is okay and it's okay to actually make some changes. 00:22:38.012 --> 00:22:44.132 And even if you've done something for 2, 3, 4 years and you now really wanna make a change and be adaptable, that's okay. 00:22:44.132 --> 00:22:45.302 And it's good to be adaptable. 00:22:45.302 --> 00:22:51.392 So recognizing that and and talking about the importance of that, and then the s and the IDEAS framework is service. 00:22:51.752 --> 00:22:58.832 Whenever we're talking to a young person, we're talking about finding purpose, fulfillment, happiness in work and life, and we believe it's possible. 00:22:58.832 --> 00:23:01.322 And yes, of course you can find that in your vocation. 00:23:01.322 --> 00:23:02.852 We believe that's absolutely possible. 00:23:03.182 --> 00:23:07.262 There's also another way, which is to recognize that connection to your community. 00:23:07.262 --> 00:23:08.192 How do you give back? 00:23:08.192 --> 00:23:09.752 What does volunteerism look like? 00:23:10.142 --> 00:23:13.742 We want all these young people to recognize what that's like and what that feels like. 00:23:13.742 --> 00:23:15.032 And I'll talk to kids and say, Hey. 00:23:15.407 --> 00:23:16.967 How many of you have done a little bit of volunteer work? 00:23:16.967 --> 00:23:18.947 And of course a lot of hands go up, it's great. 00:23:19.577 --> 00:23:21.437 I said, did that feel pretty good? 00:23:21.527 --> 00:23:24.437 And you see a lot of nods, and I'm like, that's kind of wonderful, right? 00:23:24.437 --> 00:23:28.877 Like you actually sacrificed your time, your energy, but you actually got something out of it. 00:23:28.877 --> 00:23:30.587 And that's really, really fantastic. 00:23:30.887 --> 00:23:41.237 And so young people to recognize that and see that, and then if we can get them to go do some volunteer work to actually get into a practice of that, what you of course then find is some people are like. 00:23:41.897 --> 00:23:42.647 love this work. 00:23:42.677 --> 00:23:45.827 Like this is, this is my, I want this to be my day job. 00:23:45.827 --> 00:23:48.167 And so we want them to have that exposure. 00:23:48.197 --> 00:23:57.587 If they want to go work at a nonprofit or some order, other sort of service type of, you know, industry or business or, I mean, I always say teachers are in, you know, in in the, in. 00:23:57.617 --> 00:23:59.747 That's a, they're in the service of, of others. 00:23:59.747 --> 00:24:02.057 I mean, that's a beautiful thing that you could be a part of. 00:24:02.477 --> 00:24:08.027 And so getting young people to recognize that, I always knew that if I had the ear of a young person and we're talking about the future. 00:24:08.047 --> 00:24:15.577 I always wanted to, you know, just dabble in the, the sure they understood the importance of, of giving back to their community and what that looked like. 00:24:15.577 --> 00:24:18.607 So we, we talk about that and what that looks, how they can go about that. 00:24:20.072 --> 00:24:22.892 Yeah, I really like the, the ideas framework. 00:24:22.892 --> 00:24:27.362 I think that it's, uh, valuable and definitely something to, to do. 00:24:27.422 --> 00:24:31.502 What does this look like in practice, um, day to day? 00:24:31.532 --> 00:24:32.972 How do you work with kids? 00:24:33.032 --> 00:24:35.613 Um, how do you, how do you help them if they are. 00:24:36.082 --> 00:24:36.202 I. 00:24:36.592 --> 00:24:42.112 Like just some ambitious kid and they're like, Hey, I'm listening to a principal podcast 'cause I'm a super nerd. 00:24:42.352 --> 00:24:43.762 How do, how do they get involved? 00:24:43.762 --> 00:24:47.272 Or more realistically, you know, we got principals and teachers listening to this. 00:24:47.272 --> 00:24:49.402 How do we bring this kind of program to our schools? 00:24:49.637 --> 00:24:50.477 I appreciate you asking. 00:24:50.477 --> 00:24:54.317 So there's four different, uh, I call 'em delivery pillars. 00:24:54.317 --> 00:24:55.817 We have four different delivery pillars. 00:24:56.297 --> 00:24:59.657 The first one is we do a lot of work in schools, high schools and colleges. 00:24:59.657 --> 00:25:03.827 So, and how that kind of looks is we come in, maybe you've heard of advisory. 00:25:03.827 --> 00:25:04.457 A lot of schools 00:25:04.627 --> 00:25:04.917 Yeah. 00:25:05.642 --> 00:25:10.412 Maybe it's a half hour a week, um, maybe it's an hour a month, whatever it might be. 00:25:10.412 --> 00:25:12.722 It's different in a lot of different schools that we show up in. 00:25:13.922 --> 00:25:23.462 but we've come in and helped out if, if not even in some places, taken over advisory and said, Hey, let us a, a lot of principals who are honest with me, we'll say, Tyler. 00:25:24.512 --> 00:25:27.062 you came our, you know, I'm using air quotes. 00:25:27.062 --> 00:25:29.522 Our advisory was not advising anything. 00:25:29.552 --> 00:25:32.462 It was, you know, we didn't have any real curriculum. 00:25:32.522 --> 00:25:45.687 Uh, yeah, we have one of those school links, or zello, or one of these programs that allow students to maybe go on and do a little bit of exploration, but we weren't truly helping young people prepare for the future and better understand who they are as humans and what that looks like. 00:25:46.787 --> 00:25:49.997 and so I've had a lot of principals say like, this has become our North star. 00:25:49.997 --> 00:25:51.617 Like, this is such good stuff. 00:25:51.617 --> 00:25:59.087 And so we come in and we have, uh, a, a curriculum that that is nine months, uh, long that we can come in. 00:25:59.087 --> 00:26:03.407 And whether that's once a week, whether that's once a month, we've adapted it in, in a lot of different ways. 00:26:04.187 --> 00:26:06.857 But we come in and and do one of a couple things. 00:26:06.857 --> 00:26:07.667 One is either. 00:26:08.222 --> 00:26:14.282 Uh, train the teachers on like a 15 minute, um, little training to say, Hey, we're gonna do this activity this week. 00:26:14.312 --> 00:26:16.172 This is what we're, we're in the introspection phase. 00:26:16.532 --> 00:26:27.212 And then it's a usually a video of me kind of talking about why this is valuable and what we're doing, and then we'll share with them the activity they're gonna do, whether that's a worksheet or, or some sort of thing we're gonna do on the computer. 00:26:28.152 --> 00:26:36.072 we teach the teachers, coach, the coaches, uh, we do that and then we allow them, uh, to, to do that during the advisory period. 00:26:36.372 --> 00:26:41.442 And sometimes we come in alongside teachers, we come alongside counselors and do it with them. 00:26:41.712 --> 00:26:43.662 Um, so it kind of shows up in a lot of different ways. 00:26:43.662 --> 00:26:50.502 But we have the curriculum that allows to walk through the ideas framework within that kind of nine month time. 00:26:50.802 --> 00:26:55.247 And mind you, I've done this in a. One hour, uh, assembly. 00:26:55.247 --> 00:26:57.497 I've done it in a three hour seminar. 00:26:57.497 --> 00:26:59.057 I've done it in a weekend seminar. 00:26:59.267 --> 00:27:04.127 So we do this in high schools and we're brought in, um, to kind of come in and be a partner in this work. 00:27:04.127 --> 00:27:12.107 Right now in the Spokane area, we're working with over 3,500 kids, uh, within the high schools that we're, we're in six different high schools that we're working in. 00:27:12.797 --> 00:27:14.087 And, um. 00:27:14.837 --> 00:27:15.497 And it's great. 00:27:15.557 --> 00:27:21.557 I mean, this is a, a really, you know, strong way to deliver this content, to change the way kids see the future. 00:27:21.557 --> 00:27:24.797 And I've had kids come up to me and be like, Hey, you're the slingshot guy. 00:27:24.797 --> 00:27:29.057 And I'm like, yeah, because they've either seen my videos or seen me speak at an assembly for this school. 00:27:29.477 --> 00:27:33.857 And I had one young man come up and he's like, this is way better than what we did last year. 00:27:34.632 --> 00:27:34.992 Yeah. 00:27:35.087 --> 00:27:36.107 like, that's awesome man. 00:27:36.107 --> 00:27:39.287 I'm so glad you're like engaged and interested and excited about this, and. 00:27:39.677 --> 00:27:42.497 And so that's one way we do that, both in high schools and colleges. 00:27:42.497 --> 00:27:47.417 So we, we work at some of the, the universities as well and do seminars for them and, and, and their students. 00:27:48.257 --> 00:27:52.037 Uh, so the second delivery pillar is we do one-to-one coaching. 00:27:52.037 --> 00:28:04.877 So if you have a, a, a parent who, of a young person and you say, Hey, you know, she just needs a little extra help, a little more customized, a little more personalized, we can offer one-to-one coaching, and that's usually paid for by the parent. 00:28:04.877 --> 00:28:06.227 We also do scholarships, but it's. 00:28:06.497 --> 00:28:08.417 Paid for by the parents to do that one-to-one coaching. 00:28:08.837 --> 00:28:12.377 And then we have, um, what we call the academy. 00:28:12.377 --> 00:28:14.717 And the academy is virtual. 00:28:14.717 --> 00:28:23.357 And so we have co we'll do cohorts, 20 to 30 young people coming together, in a cohort, in a Zoom like environment, five weeks. 00:28:23.357 --> 00:28:24.797 So we have, it's really condensed. 00:28:24.797 --> 00:28:27.947 It's five weeks and once a week for five weeks. 00:28:27.947 --> 00:28:32.027 They come on with a coach group discussion, that kind of stuff as we work through the ideas framework. 00:28:32.327 --> 00:28:34.067 And then they have a lot of. 00:28:34.562 --> 00:28:35.852 Uh, homework, if you will. 00:28:35.852 --> 00:28:43.172 So they have videos to watch, they have activities to do that to, again, to walk through the ideas home framework when, when they're not with us. 00:28:43.232 --> 00:28:44.792 Uh, and that's, like I said, five weeks. 00:28:44.792 --> 00:28:46.292 So it's, it's pretty fast, pretty content. 00:28:46.292 --> 00:28:51.212 And then that's again, something that parents would pay for if they want their, their young person in that. 00:28:51.662 --> 00:28:56.582 And then we have the fourth, which is the kind of go at it, your own pace, which is our online course. 00:28:56.857 --> 00:29:00.427 So, hey, this is gonna be easier for me to do it when I can get to it. 00:29:00.427 --> 00:29:00.997 And that kind of thing. 00:29:00.997 --> 00:29:04.477 I can't commit to every Wednesday, you know, for five weeks or whatever that might be. 00:29:05.017 --> 00:29:07.027 Uh, can I just get to the content myself? 00:29:07.027 --> 00:29:08.077 And we have that option. 00:29:08.077 --> 00:29:13.147 They can pay to have the, the, uh, um, access to the, to the online course. 00:29:13.147 --> 00:29:13.207 I. 00:29:15.017 --> 00:29:28.757 Yeah, I, I like the, uh, the broad way of making it available to everybody because that's, uh, you know, everybody's got their own thing that is, um, that, that makes it possible for them to be successful. 00:29:28.757 --> 00:29:29.057 Right. 00:29:29.057 --> 00:29:33.047 And, you know, I. Uh, meeting synchronously may not work. 00:29:33.077 --> 00:29:34.907 Meeting asynchronously may work better. 00:29:34.967 --> 00:29:35.387 Yeah. 00:29:35.837 --> 00:29:40.517 and so those are, you know, some kids aren't gonna be able to pull through doing the asynchronous. 00:29:40.517 --> 00:29:45.047 They need that, that calendar time to, to make it happen. 00:29:45.077 --> 00:29:47.087 So, yeah, this is good. 00:29:47.147 --> 00:30:02.327 Um, just, uh, as we close up, can I, I love the title of your book, be More Like You, and, and this is, uh, one of the things that I. That we struggle with right now in our society is this idea of identity. 00:30:02.867 --> 00:30:06.167 And we define identity way too narrowly. 00:30:06.587 --> 00:30:23.957 And I've said this a bunch and, and people, um, listening are, you know, they're probably sick of me saying it, but I'm gonna keep saying it because we define ourselves so narrowly and focus on things that are either unchangeable or too narrow for us to really, um. 00:30:24.422 --> 00:30:26.762 For that to be so important. 00:30:26.822 --> 00:30:30.827 You know, and, and we really need to recognize that we are each. 00:30:31.367 --> 00:30:40.067 Unique individual people that even if we have commonality with some people, we are still very different from those people. 00:30:40.607 --> 00:30:45.797 E even kids in the same family are gonna grow up and be their own unique person. 00:30:46.217 --> 00:30:49.937 And they may look alike, they may sound alike, they may act alike. 00:30:49.937 --> 00:30:58.067 They may believe a lot of the same things, but they are still unique individual people with a unique and individual approach to life. 00:30:58.157 --> 00:30:58.607 And. 00:30:59.462 --> 00:31:07.712 That should be valued and recognized rather than, um, thinking that we have to be like everybody else or define ourselves so narrowly. 00:31:08.012 --> 00:31:12.242 So we just talk a little bit more about what be like you really means to you. 00:31:12.242 --> 00:31:12.302 I. 00:31:12.742 --> 00:31:13.792 Yeah, I appreciate that. 00:31:13.792 --> 00:31:16.582 The, yeah, the, the title of the book be More Like You. 00:31:16.582 --> 00:31:18.292 I mean, it really was this idea that. 00:31:19.367 --> 00:31:25.547 I do believe that everyone is uniquely gifted and like you said, and we should celebrate that uniqueness and it's beautiful, right? 00:31:25.967 --> 00:31:30.557 Um, and the importance of that and that likely these things are already inside of you. 00:31:30.767 --> 00:31:43.427 These skills that you're uniquely gifted with these, your, your unique personality, um, these interests that you have about the world and, and learning more about it, like honor that right? 00:31:43.427 --> 00:31:47.267 And, and be more like you and who you are and draw this out of you. 00:31:47.582 --> 00:31:52.382 So that you can find that, that alignment to, I, I just believe in that wholeheartedly. 00:31:52.742 --> 00:31:55.532 And, and also, you know that, that. 00:31:56.162 --> 00:31:57.482 Again, I, I'll just go back to this. 00:31:57.482 --> 00:31:59.462 It's not this path to singular discovery. 00:31:59.912 --> 00:32:05.942 We, as human beings have all sorts of amazing interests that we have, and you should explore those and, and better understand those. 00:32:06.272 --> 00:32:19.172 I was meeting yesterday with a young man and he's, and, and he was asking me, Hey, I'm, I'm considering colleges, you know, and what sort of questions should I ask about this business school versus that business school or this and that? 00:32:19.502 --> 00:32:23.102 And, and I said, Hey, listen, I love that you're interested in business, and I think that's gonna be wonderful. 00:32:23.102 --> 00:32:25.292 It seems to suit your personality and what I know of you. 00:32:25.847 --> 00:32:32.027 But what I'd rather see you do is, is choose a school because it's where you want to go and what you're excited about and that you're into. 00:32:32.657 --> 00:32:39.107 Um, and, and if you're, you know, I said ask about their, their curriculum and their different classes, class lists for these different. 00:32:39.392 --> 00:32:44.132 The schools they have, and then find out what, like what is exciting to you and what's coming out for you. 00:32:44.402 --> 00:32:58.892 And then once you go there, go and start to take some classes within the business school, of course, but then take a broader variety of classes, anthropology, you know, philosophy, take some of these and then like be open to like what's exciting you, what's drawing you in. 00:32:58.952 --> 00:33:01.262 And, and, and then if a certain. 00:33:02.177 --> 00:33:03.887 that you're taking, you find really interesting. 00:33:04.157 --> 00:33:05.207 Go do some research. 00:33:05.207 --> 00:33:10.337 What are jobs around, you know, this type of industry or that kind of thing, and better understand what that's about. 00:33:10.667 --> 00:33:15.017 It's about that, that, that exploration phase and getting the information. 00:33:15.017 --> 00:33:21.077 I joke with young people, I, I say that, Hey, listen, we only know what we currently know. 00:33:21.077 --> 00:33:22.697 And I'm like, isn't that a dumb statement? 00:33:22.697 --> 00:33:24.947 And they all kind of laugh and like, you know, nod their head. 00:33:24.947 --> 00:33:30.377 I'm like, but you're making decisions about your future on the limited amount of information you currently have. 00:33:31.187 --> 00:33:40.637 you can go do the work, do the research, watch the videos of more, and get more information, more influence, more things, you're gonna be able to make a better decision. 00:33:40.637 --> 00:33:42.857 And just trying to get them to understand that. 00:33:43.157 --> 00:33:46.067 And I'll even tell 'em like, Hey, there's good content on TikTok. 00:33:46.397 --> 00:33:51.227 You, if you're interested in artificial intelligence, if you're interested in whatever it might be there. 00:33:51.227 --> 00:33:54.587 I guarantee you there's content on YouTube, on TikTok. 00:33:54.587 --> 00:33:55.607 I mean, it's out there. 00:33:55.967 --> 00:33:58.607 So just go and like get some more of that content. 00:33:59.042 --> 00:34:01.892 And then honor that and say, wow, this is really cool. 00:34:01.892 --> 00:34:07.292 I had no idea this industry existed and I wanna honor that and be more like me because that's inside of me. 00:34:07.292 --> 00:34:08.132 I wanna find that. 00:34:08.282 --> 00:34:18.692 And so I just really think it's this idea of like, we owe it to ourselves to honor that, that uniqueness within us, and to try to push young people to, to recognize that, to, to, Hey, it's okay. 00:34:18.752 --> 00:34:20.552 You, you know, you don't have to be like everybody else. 00:34:20.552 --> 00:34:22.052 You don't have to be what you see on Instagram. 00:34:22.052 --> 00:34:26.372 Like, like what does this resonate with you and does it excite you and light you up? 00:34:27.062 --> 00:34:27.512 Yeah. 00:34:27.542 --> 00:34:31.202 And, and even better if you don't find something. 00:34:31.622 --> 00:34:35.012 More information about that you can go create it. 00:34:35.492 --> 00:34:41.462 That's, that's the beauty is, is you don't have to have permission from anybody to start doing that. 00:34:41.462 --> 00:34:52.112 And you, you can start creating and sharing what you're learning and what you're interested in and, and create a niche and find other people who are interested in that too. 00:34:52.712 --> 00:34:54.812 And, and that is just really incredible. 00:34:54.812 --> 00:35:00.962 It's one of the most amazing things about the, the time in which we live and the world we live, where you can. 00:35:01.742 --> 00:35:06.092 You can create and find other people who are interested in the same things. 00:35:06.122 --> 00:35:09.122 Um, so Tyler, this was awesome. 00:35:09.122 --> 00:35:10.652 Thank you so much for being here. 00:35:10.712 --> 00:35:17.792 Um, please let us know how to get, uh, in touch with you and get more of these programs, uh, in our schools and what that looks like. 00:35:17.912 --> 00:35:18.512 appreciate that. 00:35:18.512 --> 00:35:18.782 Yeah. 00:35:18.782 --> 00:35:22.682 I think the best way is the website, that is that hello slingshot.org. 00:35:22.682 --> 00:35:31.772 You'll find out about our different programs and you'll find a way to contact us and reach out, and I would love the chance to have a conversation if anyone is interested in kind of the way we approach this and what we do and learning more. 00:35:31.832 --> 00:35:32.402 I welcome that. 00:35:33.377 --> 00:35:33.677 Yeah. 00:35:33.707 --> 00:35:34.037 Cool. 00:35:34.037 --> 00:35:35.687 So hello slingshot.org. 00:35:35.687 --> 00:35:37.427 This was a, a great conversation. 00:35:37.487 --> 00:35:38.297 Thank you so much. 00:35:38.297 --> 00:35:44.147 And, um, I think there's gonna be more to come from this and, uh, thank you so much for being here, Tyler. 00:35:44.147 --> 00:35:44.747 Appreciate it. 00:35:44.972 --> 00:35:45.062 j. 00:35:45.302 --> 00:35:45.872 Appreciate it.