Indoor wayfinding fails in the exact moments it matters most: when someone is stressed, unfamiliar with the space, short on time, or navigating in a second language. Airports and hospitals amplify that pressure, and traditional indoor navigation systems often add friction—apps, logins, hardware dependencies, and imprecise positioning—right when users have the least cognitive bandwidth.
Dustin Gimbel is the co-founder of RouteMe, a video-based indoor navigation platform designed to remove that friction entirely. Instead of relying on GPS-like abstractions indoors, RouteMe uses recorded video routes that people can preview before arrival or follow on-site, without downloading an app or creating an account. The system prioritizes clarity, familiarity, and speed over technical novelty.
In this episode, Dustin breaks down how RouteMe reframed navigation as a pre-arrival problem rather than an in-the-moment fix. He explains why video scaled where augmented reality failed, how airlines and airports are using navigation to reduce both passenger anxiety and operating costs, and where AI meaningfully improves deployment efficiency without becoming the product story.
What You’ll Learn
- Indoor navigation success depends more on cognitive clarity than positional accuracy: Sub-meter precision matters less than reducing decision-making under stress.
- Pre-arrival route visibility reshapes traveler behavior: Seeing the path in advance lowers anxiety, confusion, and reliance on on-site assistance.
- Blue-dot navigation models struggle at enterprise scale: Hardware requirements, beacon maintenance, and calibration costs limit deployment velocity.
- Video-based routing simplifies rollout and ongoing updates: Locations can be launched and maintained without physical infrastructure or complex recalibration.
- Augmented reality introduces usability constraints in travel environments: Device handling, physical fatigue, and environmental variability reduce real-world adoption.
- Accessibility-first design unlocks measurable airline cost savings: Language support and confidence-building reduced unnecessary use of paid mobility services.
- AI’s value sits in operational efficiency, not user-facing novelty: Automated route stitching, arrow placement, and translation enable rapid scaling.
- Systems built for edge cases outperform for average users: Designing for anxiety, language barriers, and unfamiliarity improves outcomes across the full passenger base.
Time-Stamped Highlights
- (00:21) RouteMe Overview and Core Use Cases
- (02:18) RouteMe’s Origin in Accessibility and Low Vision
- (05:08) Why Indoor Navigation Is Technically Hard
- (07:10) Low-Friction Design Without Apps or Logins
- (09:03) Miami International Pilot to Multi-Year Contract
- (10:29) Airline Expansion and Avianca Partnership
- (12:07) Pre-Arrival Navigation as Anxiety Reduction
- (14:13) Healthcare Use Cases and MyChart Integration
- (18:02) AI for Video Routing, Stitching, and Scale
- (20:31) Sixt Car Rental Use Case
- (28:05) Reducing Misuse of Mobility Services
- (34:08) Motion Tracking and Off-Path Correction
- (37:03) Pivot From AR to Video-Based Navigation
- (39:10) Integration Into Airline and Healthcare Systems
- (51:09) Simplicity as a Competitive Advantage
Guest
Dustin Gimbel — Co-Founder, RouteMe
Dustin is the co-founder of RouteMe, a company building video-based indoor navigation for airports, hospitals, and other high-stress environments. His work focuses on accessibility, pre-arrival guidance, and reducing friction in complex indoor spaces.
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dustin-gimbel-23384661/Company: https://www.routeme.ai
About the Podcast
Travel Tech Podcast features long-form conversations with leaders across travel and technology. The show explores how software, data, operations, and distribution come together in real businesses, with an emphasis on tradeoffs, incentives, and lessons that transfer beyond any single company or role.
Host
Alex Brooker — Founder, Airside Labs
Alex is an engineer, technology leader, and founder with deep expertise in mission-critical systems and AI oversight. He leads Airside Labs, an AI business that applies aviation-grade testing and compliance rigor to enterprise AI systems, helping organizations build and test AI agents in regulated environments. Before founding Airside Labs, Alex built and scaled complex software in aviation and safety-critical domains, blending product innovation with disciplined engineering practices. He also invests in early-stage technology ventures and advocates for thoughtful, real-world AI deployment strategies.
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alex-brooker-2280002/
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What is Travel Tech Podcast?
The Travel Tech Podcast, hosted by Alex Brooker, features long form conversations with leaders across travel and technology. The show explores how software, data, operations, and distribution come together in real businesses, with an emphasis on tradeoffs, incentives, and lessons that transfer beyond any single company or role. Alex Brooker is an industry veteran with experience in aviation, start up to exit, and AI transformation.