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Welcome to Plans Are Booked, a podcast for
every reader.

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I'm Molly Gallagher.

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I'm Stephanie Blackburn.

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And I'm Caitlin Madison.

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Welcome to chapter 36.

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Almost said 26.

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36.

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Wow.

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Wow.

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I know, but it's like, here we are.

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I think that, so here's what it is for me.

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Individually, we are busy people.

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And so the fact that we have been able to
get together 36 times and we hang out.

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even when we're not doing this.

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Like, Steph and I had an impromptu, like,
we needed to trade some books situation

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and we grabbed sushi.

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You know what I mean?

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And that was like a few days ago.

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So the fact that we have hung out 36 times
to record the podcast.

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I think is like, you know, I feel like I'm
patting myself on the back at the

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beginning of every episode, but like, it's
pretty good.

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I had two jobs this year.

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You know what I mean?

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You built an entire freaking house,
basically.

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You're like cranking out with PDFs.

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and putting out fire.

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You have two holes.

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And people have pets.

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Like, we just work.

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it.

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Yes to that and also all the books that we
read not just the books to discuss but

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also I don't know if the listeners realize
this we try really hard when we get to the

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what we're currently reading at the end of
every episode really not to have repeats

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and not just not repeats like that we read
the same book two weeks in a row

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personally

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thank you.

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when we're passing books between each
other secretly behind the scenes, we have

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additional books we start reading, so we
have more to share with you every single

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week.

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So I mentioned, I think, the last episode
how Steph already just annihilated her

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Goodreads goal for the year in the month
of June.

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But I'm more impressed with how much we've
read volume -wise since we started doing

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this.

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we're essentially, I mean, for me
personally, I'm basically reading two

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books a week, one for us to talk about and
then my currently reading book.

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And none of us are having a bad time doing
it.

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That's the reality.

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Like we like in our little pod doc, it's
like called homework, you know, like,

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okay, this is like the to do list of like
what we need to get done to be able to

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record.

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But nobody is like, this is such a drag.

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I can't believe I have to do, you know
what I mean?

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Like it really is a joyful situation that
I hope comes across to people because, and

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then like we're in Hull right now at
Molly's Beach House recording.

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Steph just made an epic breakfast.

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Like we're just grooving.

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We're grooving.

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I know this is our first time not
recording at Steph's dining room table.

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So if it sounds beachier, that's why we're
in a new location.

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You

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We're also playing around with the video
because one day we might have guests and

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it's fun to see people's like facial
reactions when you have guests on.

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And Molly was like, I mean, are we the
Kelsey's now?

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Like we're just like, it's just, it's so
fun.

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Technology can be so fun.

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I feel bad for people that are like
afraid.

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Like people my mom's age, they're like.

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My mom is always calling me being like,
can you help me with the TV?

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Can you help me with this?

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Can you help me with that?

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I don't want to blow anything up.

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That's her phrase.

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I don't want anything to blow up.

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I don't want to delete anything
accidentally.

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And there's just this like genuine fear of
like, I'm going to screw this up royally.

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And like, she hasn't even listened to this
podcast yet because she's like, I need a

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tutorial on like how to click on an app.

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I'm like, mom.

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I gave her the bookmarks with the scan on
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I'm like, just scan this like a menu in a
restaurant.

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It will take you to my podcast.

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She still hasn't done it.

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Joyce, come on now.

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just a fear.

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It's just if I hope this is the first one
she listens to and she knows she got

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called out.

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But it like, you know, Steph was like, I'm
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do a podcast.

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And like, I'm going to figure out how to
edit stuff.

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And Molly's writing blur.

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I feel like it's just like there's so many
cool things you can do with it.

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You just have to be willing to like spend
some time on it.

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We, as Caitlin said, we're testing the
video for the first time.

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We usually do audio only, but even when we
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eight seconds, I was like, my God, it's so
fun to like see our faces and our body

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language.

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And like, it just adds a different
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So hopefully at some point we'll figure
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share with you guys, but just know.

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We're adding new things, we're trying new
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some point see us or watch us in little
clips in the future.

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So what's everybody been up to?

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I feel like the listeners are tired of my
plumber drama, so I'm not going to even

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get into that because it's a week later.

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It's still ongoing.

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I've had Nemo for the past week.

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We have done a lot of reading on the front
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Not a lot of walks because he doesn't like
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A lot of me carrying him from place to
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That's about it.

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I think I haven't really done much this
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I did the horses again.

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One of the boys had a birthday, so I made
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the physical therapist had bought a
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her.

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It was...

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it mall we've got to repost it we got to
repost it for sure now that you've

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mentioned it I'm glad that it's gonna get
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not really a horse person, but like I saw
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she was a good sport.

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And little boy turned five.

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I'm like in love with both of the Tuesday
kiddos.

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I volunteered basically anytime that
Tuesday horse handler is not free.

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I am happy to come in on Tuesday instead.

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Yeah, that was my week.

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You want to go, Mo?

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Sure.

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I basically moved here to Hull this past
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I've been going back and forth a ton as
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be here for July and August, maybe, who
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And my cousin Noah is also down here for
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Like we've gone on a bunch of beach walks
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He's very into looking for sea glass.

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He has just been like spanking me.

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If I find like three to four pieces, I
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And he's been finding like 12.

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I told you I've never in my life found a
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I think the West Dennis Beach just, it
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I don't think either of you have ever been
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half the year and we've had the house
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So like when, like when it goes, when the
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seaweed.

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And so like, I find a lot of really good
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still living creatures kind of like
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horseshoe crab shells like all over the
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And so there's like a lot of, I'd say
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way I would describe it.

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And there's just like, I never have found
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I think today is going to be the day.

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Maybe.

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I mean, that would be epic.

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And my friend Liv, you know Liv from
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she has like entire like, you know, those
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you can fill them with whatever.

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She has them like absolutely filled to the
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And I was like, Liv, what the heck?

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And she's like, I have spent my whole life
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Now she lives in Colorado.

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She must be going out of her mind.

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So I grew up for many summers vacationing
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the Cape.

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And I love the Truro Vineyard and I have a
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that are in the shape of the lighthouse.

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So I'm hoping to eventually have enough
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When you said lamp, it reminded me of
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I have one on the counter here that's
empty.

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Noah has only really been.

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on the quest since he like moved down here
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He almost has a full mason jar.

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I have a mason jar on this front porch
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moved in here in November 2020.

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I'm maybe just over halfway after almost
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He's almost done after a month.

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It's insane.

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It's absolutely insane.

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That's wild.

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Is he around today?

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Can he can some of his good luck just rub
off on me a little bit?

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He's not around today, which is good news
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correct.

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So we have higher chances with him at it.

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Yes.

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gosh.

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Okay.

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All right.

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Well, I'm glad he's not here then because
I'm a noob.

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chat, there's eight of us, and every day
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the pieces that he found.

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So.

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don't know how old is he like 25 26 Okay,
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he doesn't have this on his dating profile
he should

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Okay, he doesn't listen to this podcast.

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So I'm going to say this because he will
get because he won't hear this.

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He's on the apps.

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And earlier this week, while I was on
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someone to come down.

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And I was like, wow, this girl was like
driving from the city.

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She's driving an hour to like go on a
first date.

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Some of that she's never met.

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She was here for six hours.

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They walked on the beach, they had lunch,
they sat in chairs.

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and she's supposed to come back in a
couple days.

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keep us posted on this.

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This is awesome.

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But yeah, if he doesn't have a picture of
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I'd be wooed.

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That's like so charming.

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And like, and then you know, he like
spends the time doing that.

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Like, there's a lot of layers.

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A picture says a lot.

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I don't think guys really realize like,
how deep, how deep we would dive into

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that.

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But like, no more fish pictures, like for
the love of God.

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Yeah, I don't need to see the bluefin tuna
that you took out of the water.

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Not interested.

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Yeah, it just is like...

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and like I feel like it's been memed and
like it's like an ongoing joke with people

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that are on the dating apps and people
still haven't taken them down.

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I don't understand it.

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very bizarre.

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And the last thing I'll say just if any
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and you come down to Nantuska Beach for
any reason, Noah and I have also been

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drinking mudslides at the local which is
the bar in our neighborhood.

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I've had a lot of mudslides in my life
that was actually my first legal drink

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when I turned 21.

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I ordered a mudslide at Fire and Ice in
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They're superb.

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It tastes like ice cream basically the
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much whipped cream on it and it's just a
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first monthslide I ever had, so I had a
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would call her.

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Her name was Ginny and she lived across
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like 40 years.

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Like when my mom was, when my grandmother
was 80, Ginny turned 60 and my mom turned

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40.

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They were all 20 years apart.

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And Ginny was like,

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my grandmother was old like she was like
already like 78 or something not 78 she

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was like 70 when I was born

243
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She just aged very rapidly and she wasn't
the kind of grandma that could do a lot of

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things.

245
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She didn't really come to any of my
sporting events or anything.

246
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She was on an oxygen tank by the time she
hit 80.

247
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Ginny was the one that you invited to
school stuff.

248
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I did sleepovers with her.

249
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She would, when we rented houses on the
Cape before we had a Cape house, she would

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come and stay for the week.

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She was like, she was like an emergency
contact.

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Like she'd pick me up from school, you
know, like she was like my other

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grandmother.

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Like we were very, very close and her son
was my orthodontist.

255
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My brother interned with him.

256
00:12:29,390 --> 00:12:30,670
Like it's like a whole thing.

257
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Like we're very, we were very close and
she loved mudslides.

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And the 99, I don't know if they still do,
but the 99 used to have a mudslide that

259
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she was like, it's really just math, but
those mudslides are worth going for.

260
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I just remember as a kid being like, let
me walk that in.

261
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I don't know what really a mudslide is,
but if Jimmy says that they're worth it,

262
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then they're worth it.

263
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And I've always been in trouble with
people wearing mudslides.

264
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let me tell you that there's a 99 here in
Hingham.

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About a 10 minute drive from here, so we
can test ahead to head.

266
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Listen, don't tempt me with a good time.

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If you want to have a mudslide crawl at
the beach, you just say the word and I

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will get in the car.

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I mean, I feel like how could we not?

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That just seems essential to me.

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What about you, Caitlin?

272
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What's been going on this week?

273
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this week, like I said, I met Steph for
sushi.

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I ripped through a book in two sittings
that I think we're going to do a pod on.

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So that, so I ripped through a book and
like, I don't want to say I had been in a

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book slump, but like I had started and
stopped a couple.

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And then the bear came back, which I
absolutely love.

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And so I've been

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been so good.

280
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I've only watched four episodes.

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I watched two the first inning and then
one one day and one another day.

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But I'm going to the Cape for the fourth.

283
00:14:05,194 --> 00:14:07,914
And honestly, like the house isn't that
big.

284
00:14:07,914 --> 00:14:10,054
I don't really get like a lot of time to
myself.

285
00:14:10,054 --> 00:14:14,574
So I think that I probably will finish the
bear before I go to the Cape.

286
00:14:14,574 --> 00:14:16,394
I think that's kind of my goal.

287
00:14:16,394 --> 00:14:19,954
I've also been watching all the Olympic
trials that have been on TV.

288
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So the swimming, the track and field and
the gymnastics.

289
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So that's been really nice because since
the Celtics won, I haven't really had like

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a lot to watch.

291
00:14:29,794 --> 00:14:34,514
Like I haven't found any other shows that
I'm really into and I'm used to watching

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sports all the time and they just haven't
really been on.

293
00:14:38,374 --> 00:14:41,774
And so the Olympic trials have been really
nice.

294
00:14:41,774 --> 00:14:48,034
And I don't know, I just, it wasn't like a
super busy week.

295
00:14:48,034 --> 00:14:50,094
I just kind of like.

296
00:14:50,106 --> 00:14:52,106
actually, I didn't tell you guys about
this.

297
00:14:52,106 --> 00:14:52,406
my gosh.

298
00:14:52,406 --> 00:14:53,766
I can't believe I didn't tell you about
this.

299
00:14:53,766 --> 00:14:53,996
Okay.

300
00:14:53,996 --> 00:15:01,246
So Monday night, Monday night, I texted my
friend Margaret and I was like, I'm really

301
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in the mood for wings.

302
00:15:02,506 --> 00:15:06,446
I'm having a very slow, boring day and
she's gluten free.

303
00:15:06,446 --> 00:15:10,746
So like wings or something that she can
like do when she loves wings.

304
00:15:10,746 --> 00:15:12,944
So we love Buff's pub in Newton.

305
00:15:13,169 --> 00:15:18,749
Well, the afters of us probably got in the
fire and swung us back and the other side.

306
00:15:18,789 --> 00:15:19,803
Texas.

307
00:15:19,803 --> 00:15:25,423
And she's like, I'm seeing on Twitter, the
Twitter handle, I believe is caught in

308
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Southie.

309
00:15:26,603 --> 00:15:33,443
I'm seeing on Twitter that Zach Brian is
going to be at this tavern in Southie

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because he's doing these like

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pre -album release parties at like, and I
think the album is called The Great

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American Bar or something like that.

313
00:15:42,745 --> 00:15:46,255
And so he's like picking these like quote
unquote American bars.

314
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And I was like, do you really think he's
there?

315
00:15:49,255 --> 00:15:52,315
And Margaret's like, do you want to just
like see?

316
00:15:52,315 --> 00:15:56,475
I mean, it was like seven or 730 at night
and we were like, there's no traffic right

317
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now.

318
00:15:56,815 --> 00:15:59,015
We, I had to drive her to Olson in any
way.

319
00:15:59,015 --> 00:16:02,255
We were literally on the pike reading
these texts while she was reading the

320
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texts.

321
00:16:02,935 --> 00:16:04,675
I was like, let's do it.

322
00:16:05,019 --> 00:16:09,439
So we went, the line to get into this
tavern was four blocks long.

323
00:16:11,199 --> 00:16:12,479
Wait until I get into it.

324
00:16:12,479 --> 00:16:14,459
I can't believe I didn't tell you guys
this.

325
00:16:14,459 --> 00:16:19,079
So the line's four blocks long and I
dropped Margaret off to get in line and

326
00:16:19,079 --> 00:16:20,739
then I found a parking spot.

327
00:16:20,739 --> 00:16:23,689
And so I'm like a people person.

328
00:16:23,689 --> 00:16:25,399
Like I will talk to anybody.

329
00:16:25,879 --> 00:16:28,239
So I get there, there's like two bouncers.

330
00:16:28,239 --> 00:16:30,619
I mean, this place is like a shit hole.

331
00:16:30,619 --> 00:16:33,087
It's like a dive bar, like.

332
00:16:33,087 --> 00:16:36,027
I've never been on it before.

333
00:16:37,327 --> 00:16:39,067
And Sherry was having her same thing.

334
00:16:39,067 --> 00:16:45,327
And so it looks like it's added like a tab
that you would want to put in a change of

335
00:16:45,327 --> 00:16:46,207
properties.

336
00:16:46,527 --> 00:16:49,347
So there's two mouse rooms there.

337
00:16:49,347 --> 00:16:52,247
And I was like, hey, what's this?

338
00:16:52,271 --> 00:16:54,321
Like, should I even get in line?

339
00:16:54,321 --> 00:16:56,325
Like, am I going to get in here?

340
00:16:56,379 --> 00:16:58,819
And they were like, we're at capacity
already.

341
00:16:58,819 --> 00:17:02,279
And it's like a one for one, like when
somebody leaves, we're letting one more

342
00:17:02,279 --> 00:17:03,119
person in.

343
00:17:03,119 --> 00:17:05,879
And I was like, do all these people know
that?

344
00:17:05,879 --> 00:17:10,459
And he was like, at this point, I think
they're just like waiting to catch a

345
00:17:10,459 --> 00:17:14,319
glimpse of Zach Brian, like if and when he
like rolls up.

346
00:17:14,319 --> 00:17:18,319
And I was like, so like what's going on
with that?

347
00:17:18,319 --> 00:17:22,499
And he was like, he's like, we found out
like a week ago that there was going to be

348
00:17:22,499 --> 00:17:24,819
this like pre album, whatever thing here.

349
00:17:24,819 --> 00:17:26,419
And that he's like,

350
00:17:26,483 --> 00:17:27,255
stop him.

351
00:17:27,255 --> 00:17:30,915
some of the bars that he does it at
because he picked like 23 bars or

352
00:17:30,915 --> 00:17:34,955
something across the country and this was
one of them because his girlfriend is from

353
00:17:34,955 --> 00:17:36,035
Boston.

354
00:17:36,695 --> 00:17:41,855
So I was like, so he's like maybe not even
coming and he was like, I mean, I don't

355
00:17:41,855 --> 00:17:45,775
know, you know, I'm sure he was told to
just like shoulder shrug and I was like,

356
00:17:45,775 --> 00:17:47,615
okay, this is a little sus.

357
00:17:47,835 --> 00:17:51,109
So I like found Margaret in line and I was
like, hey,

358
00:17:51,739 --> 00:17:53,259
I don't even know if he's really coming.

359
00:17:53,259 --> 00:17:54,929
It's a one for one situation.

360
00:17:54,929 --> 00:17:58,689
They're at capacity, blah, blah, and she's
like, let's put a time limit on it.

361
00:17:58,689 --> 00:18:02,719
Like, let's hang out for like 15, 20
minutes, see what happens.

362
00:18:02,719 --> 00:18:03,919
It was a nice night out.

363
00:18:03,919 --> 00:18:05,169
There was like a beautiful breeze.

364
00:18:05,169 --> 00:18:06,489
I was like, I'm game, whatever.

365
00:18:06,489 --> 00:18:09,439
And she's like, if it doesn't work out,
we'll go grab a drink someplace else.

366
00:18:09,439 --> 00:18:10,699
Cause we were right near Broadway.

367
00:18:10,699 --> 00:18:12,199
So like, who cares?

368
00:18:12,999 --> 00:18:18,039
So I see this couple come out of the bar
and I'm like, who would be leaving now?

369
00:18:18,039 --> 00:18:19,759
It's like eight, eight o 'clock at night.

370
00:18:19,759 --> 00:18:20,667
I'm like,

371
00:18:20,667 --> 00:18:22,797
you've been in here this whole time and
now you're leaving.

372
00:18:22,797 --> 00:18:25,607
And I was like, and they were like very
preppy and cute looking.

373
00:18:25,607 --> 00:18:27,667
And I was like, let's go talk to them.

374
00:18:27,667 --> 00:18:29,947
And Margaret was like, I mean, I'm not
talking to them.

375
00:18:29,947 --> 00:18:31,507
And I was like, I'll talk to them.

376
00:18:31,507 --> 00:18:35,027
So we crossed the street and it looked
like they were like waiting for an Uber

377
00:18:35,027 --> 00:18:35,507
basically.

378
00:18:35,507 --> 00:18:37,357
And I was like, Hey, you were just in
there.

379
00:18:37,357 --> 00:18:38,887
Like what's going on?

380
00:18:38,887 --> 00:18:41,767
And the woman, she was, they were like our
age.

381
00:18:41,887 --> 00:18:45,247
The woman was like, I've been here since
two 30.

382
00:18:46,779 --> 00:18:49,039
First of all, she was dressed very nicely.

383
00:18:49,039 --> 00:18:50,759
This place is a dive.

384
00:18:51,179 --> 00:18:52,949
She's like, I've been here from 2 .30.

385
00:18:52,949 --> 00:18:54,859
I'm like a freak for Zach Brian.

386
00:18:54,859 --> 00:18:57,109
And I heard that he like might be coming.

387
00:18:57,109 --> 00:19:01,279
She's like, they have the album playing on
repeat.

388
00:19:01,279 --> 00:19:05,899
So she's like, I've been listening to this
new album for like six hours and I've like

389
00:19:05,899 --> 00:19:07,459
kind of reached my limit.

390
00:19:08,259 --> 00:19:12,635
And somebody came in like quote unquote
from Zach Brian's team.

391
00:19:12,635 --> 00:19:15,425
and opened it because they were sitting at
the bar.

392
00:19:15,425 --> 00:19:17,055
So they like heard everything going on.

393
00:19:17,055 --> 00:19:21,935
She's like, somebody from Zach's team
showed up and put down like a credit card

394
00:19:21,935 --> 00:19:27,467
and was like, this like this is for
everybody in the bar for up to $10 ,000.

395
00:19:29,019 --> 00:19:32,939
Like, so I think his record company just
like threw down as like a promo.

396
00:19:33,319 --> 00:19:37,279
So people were like ordering rounds of
shots and it was like starting to get like

397
00:19:37,279 --> 00:19:40,679
a little not rowdy, but she was like, it's
escalating, right?

398
00:19:40,679 --> 00:19:41,979
Like it's nighttime now.

399
00:19:41,979 --> 00:19:43,139
People are out of work.

400
00:19:43,139 --> 00:19:45,219
Like it's the summer.

401
00:19:46,039 --> 00:19:47,849
So he never showed up.

402
00:19:47,849 --> 00:19:50,739
I don't know if he went to any of the bars
as far as I can tell.

403
00:19:50,739 --> 00:19:53,819
It doesn't look like he went to any of
them, even though he said on Twitter he

404
00:19:53,819 --> 00:19:55,299
was going to.

405
00:19:55,995 --> 00:19:58,235
I don't know how long people waited in
line there.

406
00:19:58,235 --> 00:19:59,585
We waited until like 8 .50.

407
00:19:59,585 --> 00:20:02,915
I mean, once this girl was like, I'm
leaving because this is like the situation

408
00:20:02,915 --> 00:20:03,395
in there.

409
00:20:03,395 --> 00:20:05,875
We were like, we went to another bar and
got a drink.

410
00:20:05,875 --> 00:20:10,915
But just like the whole unfolding of it
and like the excitement of it and being

411
00:20:10,915 --> 00:20:12,135
like, is he actually coming?

412
00:20:12,135 --> 00:20:13,655
And like, let's talk to these people.

413
00:20:13,655 --> 00:20:15,585
And I was like, very entertained.

414
00:20:15,585 --> 00:20:18,015
I found the whole thing very entertaining.

415
00:20:19,195 --> 00:20:22,715
And Margaret was like, I feel bad for all
these people that are in line that like

416
00:20:22,715 --> 00:20:23,765
aren't talking to any.

417
00:20:23,765 --> 00:20:25,581
And I was like, well, I mean.

418
00:20:25,595 --> 00:20:27,305
You have to like play the game a little
bit.

419
00:20:27,305 --> 00:20:28,885
Like you need to talk to the bouncers.

420
00:20:28,885 --> 00:20:30,575
You need, these people just came out.

421
00:20:30,575 --> 00:20:31,555
Why are they leaving?

422
00:20:31,555 --> 00:20:32,125
You know what I mean?

423
00:20:32,125 --> 00:20:35,135
Like you have to like kind of read the
situation.

424
00:20:35,515 --> 00:20:37,415
So that was my Monday night.

425
00:20:37,415 --> 00:20:38,799
That's what I did.

426
00:20:38,839 --> 00:20:41,211
You almost had a brush with fame.

427
00:20:41,211 --> 00:20:42,091
Almost.

428
00:20:42,091 --> 00:20:45,351
I've had other brushes with fame, so like,
it's not like...

429
00:20:45,351 --> 00:20:45,831
I wasn't...

430
00:20:45,831 --> 00:20:49,333
I think that other people were like, very
disappointed.

431
00:20:49,719 --> 00:20:54,659
If I thought that an artist that I loved
was going to come into a venue that was

432
00:20:54,659 --> 00:20:58,479
small like that, I too would probably wait
in line for a long ass time.

433
00:20:58,659 --> 00:21:02,339
Like, I don't know, Steph and I have had
this conversation a lot because we used to

434
00:21:02,339 --> 00:21:05,219
go to like a lot of big arena shows and
then we started going to like these

435
00:21:05,219 --> 00:21:09,339
smaller shows and for a while we were
going to a lot of shows for this guy, Matt

436
00:21:09,339 --> 00:21:12,559
Wirtz, and he was playing really small
venues.

437
00:21:12,559 --> 00:21:13,299
And it was awesome.

438
00:21:13,299 --> 00:21:17,059
It felt like he was literally making eye
contact with you while like sharing

439
00:21:17,059 --> 00:21:19,435
anecdotes in between songs.

440
00:21:19,511 --> 00:21:23,371
And I think if you are obsessed with
someone and you have the chance to see

441
00:21:23,371 --> 00:21:26,811
them in a smaller place like that, of
course you're going to try to do it.

442
00:21:27,740 --> 00:21:29,720
Anyway, should we talk some books?

443
00:21:30,140 --> 00:21:31,600
All right.

444
00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:36,700
Well, we are doing a special little
episode where we're talking about a

445
00:21:36,700 --> 00:21:41,620
variety of books because we are talking
about books that have been adapted for TV

446
00:21:41,620 --> 00:21:42,804
or film.

447
00:21:42,804 --> 00:21:44,864
or in some cases, both.

448
00:21:44,944 --> 00:21:50,144
I have a book on my list that has gotten
both treatments, which I think is kind of

449
00:21:50,144 --> 00:21:50,984
special.

450
00:21:50,984 --> 00:21:57,108
So we're going to go through what we think
are our best ones and our worst ones.

451
00:21:58,580 --> 00:22:03,500
And I don't know that we have that much
overlap, but I feel like most of the ones

452
00:22:03,500 --> 00:22:08,000
that we're all mentioning, like other
people might chime in on it because I

453
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:12,880
think that even if we didn't put it on our
own list, like the other people have

454
00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,380
probably read it and or seen it.

455
00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,140
So who wants to start?

456
00:22:19,020 --> 00:22:22,580
Okay, we're going to start with our the
ones that we think we're good.

457
00:22:22,580 --> 00:22:23,442
Okay.

458
00:22:23,442 --> 00:22:23,802
Okay.

459
00:22:23,802 --> 00:22:27,742
This one's semi recently come to TV.

460
00:22:27,742 --> 00:22:31,142
It was on Apple Plus, I believe.

461
00:22:31,902 --> 00:22:37,022
I read this book, I want to say like 10
years ago.

462
00:22:37,022 --> 00:22:39,272
It is Wool by Hugh Howey.

463
00:22:39,272 --> 00:22:40,922
It's actually a trilogy.

464
00:22:40,922 --> 00:22:42,202
I've read the first two.

465
00:22:42,202 --> 00:22:43,742
I did not read the third one.

466
00:22:43,742 --> 00:22:47,062
But the show is called Silo.

467
00:22:47,542 --> 00:22:50,122
Neither of you have read this book.

468
00:22:50,122 --> 00:22:52,328
Okay, sort of like a

469
00:22:52,938 --> 00:23:01,778
sci -fi dystopian -esque, where the world,
the earth, is no longer inhabitable.

470
00:23:01,778 --> 00:23:05,858
So everyone lives in a silo in the ground.

471
00:23:06,138 --> 00:23:17,478
And it is about the sheriff dies and this
one woman who works basically at the very

472
00:23:17,478 --> 00:23:22,030
bottom of the silo in like the engineering
section.

473
00:23:22,250 --> 00:23:25,410
start, she gets picked to basically
replace him.

474
00:23:25,410 --> 00:23:30,570
And the upper crust people at the top of
the silo are like, why does this person

475
00:23:30,570 --> 00:23:37,050
who no one knows who's like basically like
a grunt worker get to ascend and be our

476
00:23:37,050 --> 00:23:37,810
new sheriff.

477
00:23:37,810 --> 00:23:45,270
So she's sort of unraveling why the
previous sheriff died, while there's like

478
00:23:45,270 --> 00:23:51,730
these upper crust political players trying
to like maneuver things around.

479
00:23:51,982 --> 00:23:58,942
and when someone, they don't have the
resources to basically have a prison.

480
00:23:58,942 --> 00:24:07,922
So if you do something that is deemed, you
know, unlawful, you get pushed outside

481
00:24:07,922 --> 00:24:12,582
where the earth is inhabitable and you
basically die on the screen.

482
00:24:12,582 --> 00:24:17,742
Like everyone watches, they sit in the
cafeteria, watch the screens and you just

483
00:24:17,742 --> 00:24:19,562
die in front of them.

484
00:24:20,524 --> 00:24:22,348
The books are hand -published.

485
00:24:23,476 --> 00:24:24,476
I want to watch this.

486
00:24:24,476 --> 00:24:26,116
I'm very intrigued by this.

487
00:24:26,116 --> 00:24:32,236
And Mike, who may or may not listen to the
podcast also, he's not a reader and he

488
00:24:32,236 --> 00:24:37,496
liked the show so much that he went out
and bought the books and like spread them.

489
00:24:37,796 --> 00:24:43,496
And so I know I like that speaks volumes
to me because he's not a reader and he's

490
00:24:43,496 --> 00:24:44,476
like doing the reverse.

491
00:24:44,476 --> 00:24:47,436
He's like, I want to go back and read
this.

492
00:24:47,436 --> 00:24:48,532
What?

493
00:24:49,300 --> 00:24:53,780
I feel like that as a premise is really
hard to adapt.

494
00:24:54,500 --> 00:25:01,200
So what, like, are there any like standout
parts that you were like, my God, they

495
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:02,172
nailed this?

496
00:25:02,172 --> 00:25:08,942
so Rebecca Ferguson, who you would maybe
know from The White Queen, which was on

497
00:25:08,942 --> 00:25:15,202
Starz, also a fantastic book to film, TV
adaptation, if you like, Philippa Gregory.

498
00:25:16,442 --> 00:25:18,402
She's also in A Mission Impossible.

499
00:25:18,402 --> 00:25:19,482
You would know her.

500
00:25:19,482 --> 00:25:25,342
She's kind of an odd duck in like press
tours.

501
00:25:25,862 --> 00:25:28,554
She plays the grunt worker.

502
00:25:28,554 --> 00:25:34,334
from the mechanical section who comes up
and becomes the new questionable sheriff.

503
00:25:34,334 --> 00:25:38,754
There's a lot of famous faces and I cannot
think of them off the top of my head right

504
00:25:38,754 --> 00:25:39,754
now.

505
00:25:39,914 --> 00:25:44,633
It's sort of like a have and have not
story and when a have not gets pulled into

506
00:25:44,633 --> 00:25:51,504
the haves, it's like a, you know how like
Twilight was very like grays and blues?

507
00:25:51,504 --> 00:25:55,774
This is all interior because it's in a
silo.

508
00:25:55,774 --> 00:25:57,974
So it's got like a darker,

509
00:25:58,060 --> 00:26:01,280
gritty film covering it.

510
00:26:02,862 --> 00:26:04,042
It's fantastic.

511
00:26:04,042 --> 00:26:07,802
And I don't think you have to like
dystopian stuff to enjoy it because it's

512
00:26:07,802 --> 00:26:12,662
more about like politics and who's playing
the game correctly and who's bumping up

513
00:26:12,662 --> 00:26:14,692
against the rules and that sort of thing.

514
00:26:14,692 --> 00:26:16,662
So that is my first one.

515
00:26:17,115 --> 00:26:18,996
Awesome mall you want to go?

516
00:26:20,016 --> 00:26:23,376
What a totally different vein I'm about to
take us in.

517
00:26:23,896 --> 00:26:28,336
My number one choice, which was like when
we decided to do this topic, I knew this

518
00:26:28,336 --> 00:26:32,856
would be the first one I would say, is Sex
in the City by Candice Bushnell.

519
00:26:33,276 --> 00:26:35,096
The book is okay.

520
00:26:35,096 --> 00:26:39,116
Like if you love New York City, if you
love reading about a single gal who's like

521
00:26:39,116 --> 00:26:43,576
hobnobbing with publishers and big people
in the writing world, like you'll love it.

522
00:26:43,576 --> 00:26:43,966
It's great.

523
00:26:43,966 --> 00:26:45,496
It's very good beach read.

524
00:26:45,496 --> 00:26:49,040
But for me, the show that resulted

525
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:55,940
or was inspired by that book became not
only such a huge cultural phenomenon, six

526
00:26:55,940 --> 00:27:01,800
seasons of the show, multiple movies, but
to me, that show was airing real time when

527
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:03,720
I was in high school and college.

528
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:10,560
And it was like such an aspirational
thing, fashion, living in the city, female

529
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,600
friendships reigning supreme.

530
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:16,176
There are still things I say to people
when I'm.

531
00:27:16,176 --> 00:27:19,836
giving advice about something that are
direct quotes from that show.

532
00:27:19,916 --> 00:27:26,456
And I think it's a case where the author
shared about her real life and it was like

533
00:27:26,456 --> 00:27:34,136
fun and light, but it turned into these
four women who many people deeply relate

534
00:27:34,136 --> 00:27:35,896
to talk about.

535
00:27:36,096 --> 00:27:40,596
It just took on a life of its own that was
so much more than the original source

536
00:27:40,596 --> 00:27:41,416
material.

537
00:27:41,416 --> 00:27:43,698
And sometimes when

538
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,190
shows go beyond what is written on the
page.

539
00:27:46,190 --> 00:27:48,340
It's a little like, I don't know.

540
00:27:48,340 --> 00:27:50,440
Like, are they going to take this in a
weird direction?

541
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:54,320
And I felt like this was an instance where
it just got stronger and stronger and

542
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:55,400
stronger.

543
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:56,760
And I just love it.

544
00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:01,900
It's like one of my most treasured viewing
experiences of my whole life.

545
00:28:01,900 --> 00:28:05,420
And I had a period where I couldn't
rewatch it because I felt too real to my

546
00:28:05,420 --> 00:28:05,840
own life.

547
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:07,500
And it was actually starting to make me
upset.

548
00:28:07,500 --> 00:28:11,668
But now I've come back full circle where
it's like fun and joyful

549
00:28:11,867 --> 00:28:17,767
I feel like the other reason apart from
like the glitz and the clothing and the

550
00:28:17,767 --> 00:28:21,547
what and being, I feel like, you know,
she's a writer and a lot of people like

551
00:28:21,547 --> 00:28:22,807
aspire to that.

552
00:28:22,807 --> 00:28:26,767
And, but I also feel like it was one of
the first shows where it was like females

553
00:28:26,767 --> 00:28:32,127
can be sexual beings without being like
total skanks or like not being labeled as

554
00:28:32,127 --> 00:28:33,147
skanks.

555
00:28:33,167 --> 00:28:38,827
And, I feel like that's why so many women
gravitated towards it.

556
00:28:38,827 --> 00:28:40,927
And then I also feel like.

557
00:28:41,211 --> 00:28:46,091
there are so many gays that also
gravitated towards it because of the

558
00:28:46,091 --> 00:28:50,871
fashion and because they're like, these
are kind of like the women that I would be

559
00:28:50,871 --> 00:28:51,571
friends with.

560
00:28:51,571 --> 00:28:56,671
And I feel like it had a whole awakening
for a lot of people.

561
00:28:57,251 --> 00:29:00,691
And I can't tell you how many quizzes that
are like, are you a Miranda?

562
00:29:00,691 --> 00:29:01,391
Are you a Charlin?

563
00:29:01,391 --> 00:29:01,941
Are you this?

564
00:29:01,941 --> 00:29:02,661
Are you that?

565
00:29:03,171 --> 00:29:06,680
think for all the reasons you just said,
all kinds of people gravitate to it.

566
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:11,051
But like, if I honestly had to pick one
reason why people love it, it's because

567
00:29:11,051 --> 00:29:14,491
the female friendships trump every other
relationship in their lives.

568
00:29:14,491 --> 00:29:16,131
And that's so unusual.

569
00:29:16,131 --> 00:29:20,631
It like goes against the like, life is
only meaningful if you get married and

570
00:29:20,631 --> 00:29:21,851
have kids.

571
00:29:22,751 --> 00:29:27,711
There's an episode where Carrie turns 35
and she's very emotional and she just

572
00:29:27,711 --> 00:29:30,491
feels like crap and they meet.

573
00:29:30,491 --> 00:29:35,911
at a diner and they're talking about how,
what if like, we're meant to be each

574
00:29:35,911 --> 00:29:40,211
other's soulmates, that it's not about
romantic relationships, it's not about the

575
00:29:40,211 --> 00:29:41,901
dream guy or the dream girl.

576
00:29:41,901 --> 00:29:44,851
It's like, what if we can just be that for
each other?

577
00:29:44,851 --> 00:29:47,751
We can lift each other up, we can
celebrate with each other, we can come

578
00:29:47,751 --> 00:29:50,951
together when we need to commiserate.

579
00:29:50,951 --> 00:29:53,111
And I, yes, like us.

580
00:29:53,111 --> 00:29:55,923
But I remember seeing that like,

581
00:29:55,923 --> 00:29:57,931
have a podcast in the revamp.

582
00:29:57,931 --> 00:29:59,545
my god, I just like...

583
00:29:59,545 --> 00:30:00,585
there is a podcast.

584
00:30:00,585 --> 00:30:02,525
Okay, you two need to watch it.

585
00:30:02,525 --> 00:30:05,985
There is a podcast in the new two seasons.

586
00:30:08,045 --> 00:30:09,005
Carrie's on one.

587
00:30:09,005 --> 00:30:10,425
No, it's Carrie.

588
00:30:12,162 --> 00:30:14,419
I won't be watching it, but that's fun.

589
00:30:15,163 --> 00:30:17,119
Caitlin, what's your first choice?

590
00:30:17,119 --> 00:30:22,279
Okay, so I didn't rank mine in like any
kind of...

591
00:30:22,279 --> 00:30:23,099
Yeah, okay.

592
00:30:23,099 --> 00:30:29,059
So the first one I'm going to mention is
The Spectacular Now, which I did a

593
00:30:29,059 --> 00:30:29,509
reverse.

594
00:30:29,509 --> 00:30:32,119
So I saw the movie and then was like, I
need...

595
00:30:32,119 --> 00:30:33,379
Yes, in the movie theater.

596
00:30:33,379 --> 00:30:37,289
I saw the movie and then I was like, I
need to go back and read the book.

597
00:30:37,289 --> 00:30:43,239
It's Young Adult, Coming of Age, which if
you know me by now is like...

598
00:30:43,239 --> 00:30:46,865
My tropes are Love Triangle,

599
00:30:47,231 --> 00:30:49,191
and coming of age.

600
00:30:50,111 --> 00:30:56,971
So the spectacular now follows this guy
Sutter and he is like the life of every

601
00:30:56,971 --> 00:30:57,591
party.

602
00:30:57,591 --> 00:31:00,221
He is like very charismatic.

603
00:31:00,221 --> 00:31:03,571
He's played by Miles Teller in the movie
who I adore.

604
00:31:03,591 --> 00:31:05,281
He's very charismatic.

605
00:31:05,281 --> 00:31:11,903
He's very like carefree I would say.

606
00:31:11,903 --> 00:31:14,973
And he's having a really hard time writing
his college essay.

607
00:31:14,973 --> 00:31:17,563
Like he can't like settle down and do it.

608
00:31:17,563 --> 00:31:21,683
He has a mom that works as a nurse
nonstop.

609
00:31:21,683 --> 00:31:23,383
She isn't around a ton.

610
00:31:23,383 --> 00:31:25,303
His dad's absent.

611
00:31:25,643 --> 00:31:33,343
And he basically has this like random bump
in with Shailene Woodley.

612
00:31:33,343 --> 00:31:41,783
And she's like nerdy and she has a paper
route and she, she's kind of like a

613
00:31:41,983 --> 00:31:44,483
She's adding to the family's income
basically.

614
00:31:44,483 --> 00:31:50,003
She's helping support her family and she
hasn't really ever had any time for

615
00:31:50,003 --> 00:31:55,743
boyfriends or she sees that as a frivolous
thing.

616
00:31:55,743 --> 00:31:59,043
She's like, I have responsibilities, I
need to do things at my house, et cetera,

617
00:31:59,043 --> 00:32:00,143
et cetera.

618
00:32:00,203 --> 00:32:06,163
She has this run in with Sutter and he
basically is like, we're only young once,

619
00:32:06,163 --> 00:32:08,163
you need to live a little.

620
00:32:09,055 --> 00:32:14,675
They like fall in love and it's like a
whole thing, but he also like has a

621
00:32:14,675 --> 00:32:15,425
drinking issue.

622
00:32:15,425 --> 00:32:19,535
Like he binge drinks a lot and it's like
becoming a problem and he like gets her

623
00:32:19,535 --> 00:32:26,505
into drinking and like, there's just a lot
of like, it's just a really earnest story.

624
00:32:26,505 --> 00:32:30,595
It's really like he's dealing with having
an absent dad.

625
00:32:30,595 --> 00:32:32,525
He's trying to write this college essay.

626
00:32:32,525 --> 00:32:36,065
Like he's got a mentor at work that kind
of calls him out on his shit.

627
00:32:36,065 --> 00:32:38,715
And then he's dating this girl that he's
like,

628
00:32:38,783 --> 00:32:43,903
she's too good for me and like, he kind of
gets to this point where he's like, am I

629
00:32:43,903 --> 00:32:46,613
turning her into a party or like, am I a
bad influence?

630
00:32:46,613 --> 00:32:49,563
Like there's just a lot of things going
on.

631
00:32:49,563 --> 00:32:51,473
And I think it's so beautiful.

632
00:32:51,473 --> 00:32:54,963
I think they are so talented in the movie.

633
00:32:55,163 --> 00:33:01,423
Kyle Chandler plays his absent dad and he
like the scenes that he's in are really

634
00:33:01,423 --> 00:33:03,443
good and heartbreaking.

635
00:33:03,583 --> 00:33:06,239
And I feel like Shailene and Miles have
like,

636
00:33:06,239 --> 00:33:07,509
really good chemistry.

637
00:33:07,509 --> 00:33:09,659
They've been in more than one movie
together.

638
00:33:09,659 --> 00:33:16,079
They're very good friends outside of
movies because they did the Divergent

639
00:33:16,079 --> 00:33:18,139
movies together as well.

640
00:33:18,619 --> 00:33:24,979
And I just, like you're watching it and
you can like, it's like palpable, like

641
00:33:24,979 --> 00:33:26,779
that they're falling for each other.

642
00:33:26,779 --> 00:33:29,899
And you're like, I don't know if they're
going to be a good fit long -term.

643
00:33:29,899 --> 00:33:32,415
And like, it's just,

644
00:33:32,415 --> 00:33:35,835
It's a coming of age movie that really
makes you think and it's not like all

645
00:33:35,835 --> 00:33:39,475
happy and like first love and prom and
yay.

646
00:33:39,475 --> 00:33:44,155
It's like, it's like teenagers that are
dealing with real shit and like, it's

647
00:33:44,155 --> 00:33:45,275
really good.

648
00:33:45,275 --> 00:33:48,694
And in some ways, I think it's better than
the book.

649
00:33:48,694 --> 00:33:53,035
It's, it's like some of those things you
kind of have to see to believe.

650
00:33:53,035 --> 00:33:57,635
And so the book like does a pretty good
job on a lot of it, but

651
00:33:58,047 --> 00:34:01,107
I just thought that that was like such an
unexpected movie.

652
00:34:01,107 --> 00:34:04,067
And if you haven't seen it, you totally
should.

653
00:34:05,207 --> 00:34:09,767
I think it was only like maybe the second
movie Miles Teller like ever did.

654
00:34:09,767 --> 00:34:12,737
Like they're just, they're really, really
good at it.

655
00:34:12,737 --> 00:34:17,337
Like people should definitely give that
movie a minute in my opinion.

656
00:34:18,357 --> 00:34:22,637
Okay, my next one is Station Eleven, which
I'm trying to remember.

657
00:34:22,637 --> 00:34:24,137
Was that on HBO?

658
00:34:24,597 --> 00:34:25,387
Caitlin, do you remember?

659
00:34:25,387 --> 00:34:26,117
It was HBO.

660
00:34:26,117 --> 00:34:27,837
Wait, did you watch it?

661
00:34:30,097 --> 00:34:37,457
this book, I had like an unnatural
attachment to when the book came out.

662
00:34:37,457 --> 00:34:41,657
Like it, first of all, it felt like
something I had never read before.

663
00:34:41,657 --> 00:34:44,917
The premise is that, well, I mean this.

664
00:34:45,621 --> 00:34:50,181
It's weird now since we've gone through
COVID, but it's sort of like a COVID type

665
00:34:50,181 --> 00:34:55,761
thing that happens where I can't remember
if it's like only a quarter of the

666
00:34:55,761 --> 00:35:01,670
population has left, but it's present day
after most of the population has gone.

667
00:35:01,670 --> 00:35:07,421
And then it's flashbacks to the night that
stuff started, people started getting

668
00:35:07,421 --> 00:35:08,061
sick.

669
00:35:08,061 --> 00:35:13,041
And it is about in present day, it is
about a troop, which reminds me of the

670
00:35:13,041 --> 00:35:15,459
Oregon Trail type covered wagons.

671
00:35:15,459 --> 00:35:20,018
There's the spirit of the others, which is
just so certainly.

672
00:35:20,579 --> 00:35:24,659
So many people have talked about this
group of people is traveling around and

673
00:35:24,659 --> 00:35:26,759
talking about this group's very own place.

674
00:35:26,759 --> 00:35:27,819
But.

675
00:35:28,849 --> 00:35:36,669
about found family because so many people
are left without anyone and trying to find

676
00:35:36,669 --> 00:35:42,049
something to like hang on to when there is
literally nothing left.

677
00:35:44,181 --> 00:35:46,255
I don't even know how to really tell it
without like...

678
00:35:46,255 --> 00:35:50,695
They're providing entertainment during a
very bleak time and they feel very

679
00:35:50,695 --> 00:35:55,735
committed to it and like they're they
still have like auditions and they like

680
00:35:55,735 --> 00:36:03,221
rotate who gets to be certain characters
and they're on a journey all the time.

681
00:36:03,221 --> 00:36:08,061
they come across, like they come across
like a cult at one point.

682
00:36:08,061 --> 00:36:15,541
And it's also about this airport where, I
mean, flights got diverted and canceled

683
00:36:15,541 --> 00:36:19,661
and people just ended up in this airport
where they were like, what are we supposed

684
00:36:19,661 --> 00:36:21,121
to do now?

685
00:36:21,121 --> 00:36:25,921
And the flashbacks I love because it's
about, I mean, it was different in the

686
00:36:25,921 --> 00:36:28,447
book and the movie, but it's about

687
00:36:28,501 --> 00:36:33,061
one guy who was at this theater
performance when people started getting

688
00:36:33,061 --> 00:36:36,421
sick and he was at Chicago.

689
00:36:36,421 --> 00:36:38,241
Yeah, I think it was Chicago.

690
00:36:38,241 --> 00:36:43,141
He and his brother, his brother is
handicapped, live on, I don't know, like

691
00:36:43,141 --> 00:36:45,661
the 20th floor or something of this
building.

692
00:36:45,661 --> 00:36:50,401
And it's about, they decide when it first
happens to just sort of sit it out because

693
00:36:50,401 --> 00:36:55,001
part of any sort of disaster is you think
eventually it's going to get fixed, you're

694
00:36:55,001 --> 00:36:55,881
going to get saved.

695
00:36:55,881 --> 00:36:57,361
So they are up.

696
00:36:57,823 --> 00:36:59,321
was

697
00:36:59,321 --> 00:36:59,461
high.

698
00:36:59,461 --> 00:37:00,681
I think he's in a wheelchair.

699
00:37:00,681 --> 00:37:02,861
And so he's not going to get down.

700
00:37:02,861 --> 00:37:07,121
Like he's not going to be able to crawl
down however many flights of stairs.

701
00:37:07,121 --> 00:37:11,641
So it's two brothers trying to figure out
what the heck to do, how to survive.

702
00:37:11,641 --> 00:37:14,721
Do we let anybody in?

703
00:37:15,461 --> 00:37:17,721
That part is heartbreaking.

704
00:37:17,721 --> 00:37:21,881
In the TV show, it's still heartbreaking,
but they put a little twist on it that is

705
00:37:21,881 --> 00:37:23,521
still worth watching.

706
00:37:24,701 --> 00:37:28,848
And then one of the players in the past

707
00:37:29,044 --> 00:37:30,134
is a little girl.

708
00:37:30,134 --> 00:37:34,764
And then she's in the theater troupe in
the present day and she's now an adult and

709
00:37:34,764 --> 00:37:37,364
it's, I think her name was Kirsten,
Kirsten.

710
00:37:37,364 --> 00:37:43,124
It is, I don't know, maybe it's too close
to home for some people if like COVID

711
00:37:43,124 --> 00:37:46,924
affected you, but I read it obviously
before COVID happened.

712
00:37:46,924 --> 00:37:53,624
So it felt, at that point in time, it felt
like this would never happen, but now it's

713
00:37:53,624 --> 00:37:55,004
like, okay.

714
00:37:55,957 --> 00:38:02,877
I don't know, it's about humanity, where
you find reasons to continue on, found

715
00:38:02,877 --> 00:38:11,197
family, but also just imagining Chicago
decrepit and overgrown with tall grasses

716
00:38:11,197 --> 00:38:13,797
is just, I don't know, it was beautiful.

717
00:38:15,197 --> 00:38:17,437
I forgot to even say who the author was,
Jesus Christ.

718
00:38:17,437 --> 00:38:18,107
Emily St.

719
00:38:18,107 --> 00:38:23,337
John Mandel, who also did Glass Hotel, and
I don't know if she has any other books,

720
00:38:23,337 --> 00:38:25,697
but she's a phenomenal writer.

721
00:38:26,939 --> 00:38:28,059
Glass Hotel, you said?

722
00:38:28,059 --> 00:38:29,699
I don't know if I know that one.

723
00:38:30,579 --> 00:38:34,679
Okay, let me just, listeners, I keep track
of every book we mention and this is a

724
00:38:34,679 --> 00:38:40,079
long list, so getting it all in there so
we can share it with you on Insta.

725
00:38:40,079 --> 00:38:44,359
Okay, my next choice is Big Little Lies,
Leanne Moriarty.

726
00:38:44,419 --> 00:38:48,159
I read this book in anticipation of the
fact that the show was coming out.

727
00:38:48,159 --> 00:38:51,419
It was very well documented, you know,
where they were filming and it had such an

728
00:38:51,419 --> 00:38:54,439
A -list cast and I was like, ooh, I
definitely wanna read this before I see

729
00:38:54,439 --> 00:38:55,099
it.

730
00:38:55,419 --> 00:38:57,779
I was not a person who had read like all
of her books.

731
00:38:57,779 --> 00:39:01,179
There are a lot of people who, yeah,
Steph's raising her hand, you guys can't

732
00:39:01,179 --> 00:39:04,579
see, but there are a lot of people who,
she has like a cult following, I would

733
00:39:04,579 --> 00:39:05,439
say.

734
00:39:05,439 --> 00:39:06,649
I wasn't one of those people.

735
00:39:06,649 --> 00:39:08,519
This was the first one that I read.

736
00:39:08,519 --> 00:39:09,729
I loved the book.

737
00:39:09,729 --> 00:39:13,509
I'm very into like the seedy underbelly of
suburbia.

738
00:39:13,509 --> 00:39:17,859
That is one of my favorite types of like
Tom Perot's Little Children or like Bruce

739
00:39:17,859 --> 00:39:18,939
Hollinger's The Gifted School.

740
00:39:18,939 --> 00:39:20,449
Like I'm very into that.

741
00:39:20,449 --> 00:39:22,817
So I knew I was gonna like it for that
reason alone.

742
00:39:22,875 --> 00:39:26,155
But the dynamics between all of these
women was so fascinating to me.

743
00:39:26,155 --> 00:39:29,155
And everyone acts like they're so perfect
and they live in this gorgeous

744
00:39:29,155 --> 00:39:30,455
neighborhood in Northern California.

745
00:39:30,455 --> 00:39:33,755
And really, there's a lot of shit going on
inside all of these houses and family

746
00:39:33,755 --> 00:39:35,795
members and divorces and whatnot.

747
00:39:36,455 --> 00:39:42,235
Then I think it's also HBO did the TV
adaptation.

748
00:39:42,235 --> 00:39:45,215
And it was awesome.

749
00:39:45,215 --> 00:39:46,925
The music is amazing.

750
00:39:46,925 --> 00:39:48,725
The cinematography is gorgeous.

751
00:39:48,725 --> 00:39:50,775
The cast is incredible.

752
00:39:52,123 --> 00:39:56,063
I particularly loved Nicole Kidman and
Alexander Skarsgard.

753
00:39:56,063 --> 00:39:59,003
I think that casting was incredible.

754
00:39:59,003 --> 00:40:01,763
There are things that had to be cut
understandably.

755
00:40:01,763 --> 00:40:06,143
You can't fit in every minute conversation
that happened in the book, but I thought

756
00:40:06,143 --> 00:40:09,943
they did a good job of capturing the
essence of each of the women.

757
00:40:10,463 --> 00:40:12,553
And I loved watching it.

758
00:40:12,553 --> 00:40:18,903
I know they're doing a second season,
excuse me, a third season, which again is

759
00:40:18,903 --> 00:40:19,963
like, you know, what we're...

760
00:40:19,963 --> 00:40:23,203
talking about earlier when they just
continue beyond whatever was on the

761
00:40:23,203 --> 00:40:27,583
written page and you never know if you're
gonna like it or not but I think the cast

762
00:40:27,583 --> 00:40:33,183
works so well together that I'd be willing
to watch however long they continue.

763
00:40:33,215 --> 00:40:37,095
So I only watched the first season, which
covers the book.

764
00:40:37,855 --> 00:40:40,745
And I haven't watched the second season.

765
00:40:40,745 --> 00:40:43,545
And it's not because I didn't like the
first season.

766
00:40:43,545 --> 00:40:46,155
It's just because I'm like, I don't know.

767
00:40:46,155 --> 00:40:48,693
I basically didn't trust the process,
honestly.

768
00:40:48,693 --> 00:40:53,133
I mean, I don't think they needed the
second season, but I think you should

769
00:40:53,133 --> 00:40:58,429
watch it just for Meryl because she
dominates.

770
00:40:58,471 --> 00:40:59,051
Okay.

771
00:40:59,051 --> 00:40:59,471
All right.

772
00:40:59,471 --> 00:41:00,631
Noted.

773
00:41:00,631 --> 00:41:01,791
Noted.

774
00:41:02,911 --> 00:41:11,871
Okay, so I feel like I don't need to go
into massive depth about this because I

775
00:41:11,871 --> 00:41:17,171
have mentioned it before, but Friday Night
Lights, I feel like I can kind of say

776
00:41:17,171 --> 00:41:18,981
enough said and like we can move on.

777
00:41:18,981 --> 00:41:21,491
But like the movie was very good.

778
00:41:21,491 --> 00:41:24,245
The TV show is even better.

779
00:41:25,683 --> 00:41:31,803
they just took, they took a story about
people who feel stuck in a small town in

780
00:41:31,803 --> 00:41:34,483
Texas and football.

781
00:41:34,623 --> 00:41:38,943
And I don't mean just playing football,
but like all the things associated with

782
00:41:38,943 --> 00:41:39,193
it.

783
00:41:39,193 --> 00:41:39,493
Right.

784
00:41:39,493 --> 00:41:44,963
So like riding the coattails of like
people who are going to get drafted and

785
00:41:44,963 --> 00:41:49,407
like the coaching aspect and like the
boosters and like.

786
00:41:49,407 --> 00:41:54,987
all the things that like give people clout
or opportunities to get out of that town.

787
00:41:55,167 --> 00:41:59,367
It's covered and it's really not about
football at a certain point.

788
00:41:59,367 --> 00:42:05,707
And it's so beautifully done and they shot
on location and I can't say enough good

789
00:42:05,707 --> 00:42:06,457
things about it.

790
00:42:06,457 --> 00:42:09,987
And if people want to talk about it, hit
me up.

791
00:42:09,987 --> 00:42:13,897
I'd be happy to go on and on for days and
days, but I've mentioned it before.

792
00:42:13,897 --> 00:42:17,414
And so I'm not going to dig in, but it is
beautifully done.

793
00:42:17,414 --> 00:42:20,351
I have to

794
00:42:20,351 --> 00:42:22,237
have to

795
00:42:23,027 --> 00:42:28,267
last good, I don't know how we want to
qualify this.

796
00:42:28,927 --> 00:42:30,967
I loved this adaptation.

797
00:42:30,967 --> 00:42:34,247
It is If I Stay by Gail Foreman.

798
00:42:34,587 --> 00:42:36,827
I love all her YA books.

799
00:42:36,827 --> 00:42:40,277
This one, gosh, I don't know when this
came out.

800
00:42:40,277 --> 00:42:41,767
Was it like 10 years ago?

801
00:42:41,767 --> 00:42:43,567
Have either of you seen the movie?

802
00:42:43,567 --> 00:42:45,867
With Chloe Grace Moretz.

803
00:42:46,707 --> 00:42:51,671
This is about Snow Day, she and her
family.

804
00:42:51,671 --> 00:42:54,891
of four are in the car together.

805
00:42:54,891 --> 00:42:58,651
I can't remember where this takes place,
but I'm picturing like the Pacific

806
00:42:58,651 --> 00:43:05,231
Northwest and they all get in a car
accident on the icy road.

807
00:43:05,691 --> 00:43:05,981
And

808
00:43:06,404 --> 00:43:12,524
Her family passes and she is the only one
who she's in sort of like a coma stage

809
00:43:12,524 --> 00:43:14,120
kind of going.

810
00:43:14,316 --> 00:43:20,616
and forth to decide if she wants to
continue to pass on and be of her family

811
00:43:20,616 --> 00:43:26,955
or is it worth fighting to come back and
live, but not have her.

812
00:43:26,955 --> 00:43:28,595
family there anymore?

813
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,280
It's a beautiful story.

814
00:43:31,580 --> 00:43:33,880
The adaptation was beautifully done.

815
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:35,740
The casting was fantastic.

816
00:43:35,740 --> 00:43:37,420
It's emotional.

817
00:43:39,100 --> 00:43:43,248
It's, I don't know, it's like a lovely YA
story.

818
00:43:43,751 --> 00:43:46,991
a little fantastical aspect to it.

819
00:43:47,331 --> 00:43:49,331
Gail does fantastic books.

820
00:43:49,331 --> 00:43:54,341
I can't think of the other series that's
about a girl who is spent a day,

821
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:58,640
my gosh, she's on like a European vacation
and I can't think of it and I'm not doing

822
00:43:58,640 --> 00:43:59,440
her justice.

823
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,620
But I like blew through that series as
well.

824
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:09,420
So I feel like a little, not angsty, but
kind of like dark and emotional YA.

825
00:44:09,420 --> 00:44:12,740
It's also a quick read, so there you go.

826
00:44:13,456 --> 00:44:16,956
I never saw that movie, so maybe I'll have
to add that to my list.

827
00:44:17,415 --> 00:44:21,925
My next one is In Her Shoes by Jennifer
Weiner.

828
00:44:21,937 --> 00:44:26,657
So maybe I'll say about this one and then
I can share some honorable mentions.

829
00:44:28,177 --> 00:44:34,757
In Her Shoes, if you haven't read it, is
about two sisters, Rose and Maggie.

830
00:44:34,797 --> 00:44:41,617
Rose is kind of straight and narrow, a bit
uptight, and her sister Maggie is kind of

831
00:44:41,617 --> 00:44:47,317
a wild one, and they have a very strained
relationship, and they wind up coming back

832
00:44:47,317 --> 00:44:49,523
together again as adults.

833
00:44:49,617 --> 00:44:56,657
And Rose falls in love and is just sort of
struggling with how to or if to include

834
00:44:56,657 --> 00:45:02,437
her sister in any way in her relationship,
in her upcoming wedding.

835
00:45:02,437 --> 00:45:06,837
And in the movie version, Rose is played
by Toni Collette, who I just think is like

836
00:45:06,837 --> 00:45:08,837
a dream at everything she ever takes on.

837
00:45:08,837 --> 00:45:11,417
And Maggie is played by Cameron Diaz.

838
00:45:12,137 --> 00:45:15,517
And Cameron Diaz has had a lot of sort of
like silly and comedic roles.

839
00:45:15,517 --> 00:45:18,951
This I think is actually one of her best.

840
00:45:18,993 --> 00:45:24,933
performances where her sort of like beauty
and wild goofy nature really plays into

841
00:45:24,933 --> 00:45:26,973
this archetype of this character.

842
00:45:26,973 --> 00:45:32,013
There is a scene at the very end of the
movie which is Rose's wedding which I cry

843
00:45:32,013 --> 00:45:32,493
every time.

844
00:45:32,493 --> 00:45:37,373
I've probably seen this movie like
conservatively 20 times and I cry every

845
00:45:37,373 --> 00:45:38,333
single time doesn't matter.

846
00:45:38,333 --> 00:45:43,473
I think if you are into sort of like
family drama, family tension, the book is

847
00:45:43,473 --> 00:45:43,763
great.

848
00:45:43,763 --> 00:45:45,933
The movie I think is just as good.

849
00:45:45,933 --> 00:45:48,951
I felt like when I saw it I was like wow
they really

850
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:56,981
it, so now I'm gonna put it on my list.

851
00:45:56,981 --> 00:45:57,921
good.

852
00:45:58,621 --> 00:46:05,401
OK, so for my honorable mentions, I loved
the book Bringing Down the House by Ben

853
00:46:05,401 --> 00:46:08,081
Masrick, which is about the poker ring at
MIT.

854
00:46:08,081 --> 00:46:10,241
It became a movie called 21.

855
00:46:10,241 --> 00:46:12,701
Most people don't even know that it was a
book.

856
00:46:12,841 --> 00:46:17,081
You should absolutely read the book and
then reward yourself by watching the

857
00:46:17,081 --> 00:46:18,193
movie, which is

858
00:46:18,193 --> 00:46:21,133
awesome and very fast paced and high
adrenaline.

859
00:46:21,133 --> 00:46:25,013
Almost reminds me like kind of of the
Ocean's Eleven movies.

860
00:46:26,273 --> 00:46:31,413
I also wanted to talk about Fleischmann is
in Trouble, which is by Taffy Brodesser

861
00:46:31,413 --> 00:46:32,313
-Akner.

862
00:46:32,553 --> 00:46:34,853
I hate read that book.

863
00:46:34,853 --> 00:46:37,153
Everybody around me was talking about how
great it was.

864
00:46:37,153 --> 00:46:41,053
It was on these like critics lists and I
was like WTF.

865
00:46:41,053 --> 00:46:42,233
I don't get this.

866
00:46:42,233 --> 00:46:44,253
I also felt that way about The Goldfinch.

867
00:46:44,253 --> 00:46:47,217
But then I saw the TV

868
00:46:47,217 --> 00:46:49,617
adaptation, which I loved.

869
00:46:49,617 --> 00:46:55,177
And I thought like, this is why it's worth
it for someone else to put like a lens on

870
00:46:55,177 --> 00:47:00,697
some of these stories, because in the
visual medium, I felt like I understood

871
00:47:00,697 --> 00:47:04,177
characters that I had hated in the book.

872
00:47:04,177 --> 00:47:08,697
So whether you've read it, you don't need
to have read the book to understand the TV

873
00:47:08,697 --> 00:47:11,397
series, but I think it's worth a shot.

874
00:47:11,697 --> 00:47:16,107
And then my last one, which is really kind
of like old school.

875
00:47:16,188 --> 00:47:18,521
the sister of the traveling police.

876
00:47:18,521 --> 00:47:20,821
by Anne Brashears.

877
00:47:21,721 --> 00:47:26,561
I really liked the book, but I also loved
this movie.

878
00:47:26,561 --> 00:47:30,981
I feel like it came out at a time where
people our age, it was kind of like the

879
00:47:30,981 --> 00:47:35,101
right age, like peer level.

880
00:47:35,101 --> 00:47:39,841
And I still rewatch it anytime I like
casually come upon it on TV.

881
00:47:39,841 --> 00:47:44,681
I think there are so many moments that
people reference about that movie.

882
00:47:45,681 --> 00:47:50,241
relationships, friendships, whatever, and
I still, like with friends, if we're out

883
00:47:50,241 --> 00:47:52,961
shopping and something fits everybody, I'm
like, my God, it's the pants.

884
00:47:52,961 --> 00:47:57,021
It's just like one of those things that
has applications still in everyday

885
00:47:57,021 --> 00:47:58,161
conversation.

886
00:47:58,161 --> 00:48:01,640
So if you didn't know it was a book, you
should definitely check it out.

887
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:05,556
And I just think that's a classic from the
teen years.

888
00:48:05,983 --> 00:48:06,683
anyways.

889
00:48:06,683 --> 00:48:07,363
Okay.

890
00:48:07,363 --> 00:48:11,983
So I have quite a few left that I'm just
going to rip through because I feel like

891
00:48:11,983 --> 00:48:13,363
they're all

892
00:48:13,603 --> 00:48:17,063
I feel like some of the things that we
mentioned before, like a little niche and

893
00:48:17,063 --> 00:48:19,453
like we're cluing the readers in that they
should check it out.

894
00:48:19,453 --> 00:48:23,643
These are like my, you've been dead in a
hole somewhere if you haven't heard of

895
00:48:23,643 --> 00:48:24,483
them.

896
00:48:24,483 --> 00:48:26,183
Normal People.

897
00:48:26,303 --> 00:48:32,023
That's a TV show that I've watched five or
six times through.

898
00:48:32,023 --> 00:48:33,763
I cry every single time.

899
00:48:33,763 --> 00:48:35,983
It makes me feel alive.

900
00:48:36,143 --> 00:48:37,623
It's beautifully done.

901
00:48:37,623 --> 00:48:39,963
I read the book after I saw the show.

902
00:48:39,963 --> 00:48:41,303
The book is amazing.

903
00:48:41,303 --> 00:48:43,175
Sally Rooney forever.

904
00:48:44,315 --> 00:48:46,335
so normal people, amazing.

905
00:48:46,335 --> 00:48:47,635
One day.

906
00:48:48,155 --> 00:48:52,015
Didn't like the movie, really liked the TV
show.

907
00:48:52,415 --> 00:48:54,415
The book was amazing.

908
00:48:55,095 --> 00:49:01,275
if you're somebody that likes to watch a
couple that starts as friends and blossoms

909
00:49:01,275 --> 00:49:04,675
into something else and get your heart
ripped out, amazing.

910
00:49:05,375 --> 00:49:07,055
Anything by Jenny Han.

911
00:49:07,055 --> 00:49:13,450
So like her, To All the Boys I Love Before
trilogy became movies and then her.

912
00:49:13,539 --> 00:49:15,069
Trilogy that's the summer.

913
00:49:15,069 --> 00:49:17,679
I turned pretty got turned into a TV show.

914
00:49:17,679 --> 00:49:24,659
I feel like the books are a little Like
generic and not the most well -written

915
00:49:24,659 --> 00:49:32,379
things and I feel like the movie all the
movies and the TV show She just like I

916
00:49:32,379 --> 00:49:37,959
think maybe became a more mature writer
and she adapted them herself and like she

917
00:49:37,959 --> 00:49:40,659
really like dug in and figured out

918
00:49:40,867 --> 00:49:45,627
what people wanted from the characters and
like made them richer.

919
00:49:46,207 --> 00:49:52,587
And I think, I don't know this for a fact,
but since she started doing the movies and

920
00:49:52,587 --> 00:49:54,977
TV shows, she hasn't come out with any
more books.

921
00:49:54,977 --> 00:49:58,467
And I feel like she might just be a
screenwriter from here on out.

922
00:49:58,467 --> 00:50:00,227
I'm not, I haven't read that anywhere.

923
00:50:00,227 --> 00:50:01,507
That's just in my own head.

924
00:50:01,507 --> 00:50:03,667
I've come up with that.

925
00:50:03,667 --> 00:50:07,167
I'm not one to say like, skip the books,
but like,

926
00:50:07,167 --> 00:50:11,267
really don't think that they give or take
anything away from the movies or the

927
00:50:11,267 --> 00:50:11,577
shows.

928
00:50:11,577 --> 00:50:13,427
And I don't say that lightly.

929
00:50:13,427 --> 00:50:16,027
So I would just do the movies and the
shows.

930
00:50:16,767 --> 00:50:19,307
And then Spotlight.

931
00:50:19,967 --> 00:50:25,707
So Spotlight is an interesting one because
that is not a book to film situation.

932
00:50:25,707 --> 00:50:31,327
That is a, if you don't know the Spotlight
series in the Boston Globe, it's, they've

933
00:50:31,327 --> 00:50:34,427
done it on Aaron Hernandez.

934
00:50:34,427 --> 00:50:36,931
They've done it on like a lot of big

935
00:50:37,123 --> 00:50:42,463
trial cases, but there's a spotlight team
of journalists at the Boston Globe and

936
00:50:42,463 --> 00:50:47,893
they do like a deep dive of like a year or
two of investigative journalism.

937
00:50:47,893 --> 00:50:51,393
And then it comes out in a multi -series
every Sunday.

938
00:50:51,393 --> 00:50:56,583
They give out another like part one, part
two, part three.

939
00:50:57,003 --> 00:51:02,583
And one of the biggest like prize winners
for them where they won all sorts of

940
00:51:02,583 --> 00:51:05,923
journalist awards was when they covered

941
00:51:05,923 --> 00:51:10,383
the priest scandals in Boston within the
Catholic Church and how the Catholic

942
00:51:10,383 --> 00:51:15,223
Church was basically just transferring
priests who were pedophiles to other

943
00:51:15,223 --> 00:51:21,043
parishes to cover up that this was like a
pandemic essentially.

944
00:51:21,403 --> 00:51:25,403
And that's when my family stopped going to
church actually was when all of that came

945
00:51:25,403 --> 00:51:26,463
out.

946
00:51:26,583 --> 00:51:29,909
And it was very...

947
00:51:30,915 --> 00:51:32,165
I mean, it hit my family.

948
00:51:32,165 --> 00:51:33,095
Like it really did.

949
00:51:33,095 --> 00:51:37,795
And we didn't know anyone that had been
personally affected by it.

950
00:51:37,795 --> 00:51:42,875
Like we didn't know anyone personally that
was molested, but we knew enough people

951
00:51:42,875 --> 00:51:44,555
that were like, yeah, he was weird.

952
00:51:44,555 --> 00:51:47,014
And like my parents told me not to be
alone with them.

953
00:51:47,014 --> 00:51:51,175
And like, you know, I know, I mean, my
stepdad was an altar boy.

954
00:51:51,355 --> 00:51:55,715
Like a lot of the priests like back in the
day were heavy drinkers and like my

955
00:51:55,715 --> 00:51:57,215
stepdad's like looking back on that.

956
00:51:57,215 --> 00:51:59,779
I wonder if it was because they were like
trying to

957
00:51:59,779 --> 00:52:06,679
deal with things and it's just, it's
really well done.

958
00:52:06,679 --> 00:52:13,979
It's the acting is Mark Ruffalo's in it,
Rachel McAdams, they cast it really well.

959
00:52:14,739 --> 00:52:19,699
Michael McKeaton's in it, he is awesome.

960
00:52:19,779 --> 00:52:23,699
And you know, if you're from Boston and
you lived it, I feel like you have a

961
00:52:23,699 --> 00:52:24,355
certain...

962
00:52:24,355 --> 00:52:30,075
affinity towards it and it's like a time
and a place and all of that and I just

963
00:52:30,075 --> 00:52:31,875
think it was really well done.

964
00:52:31,875 --> 00:52:36,275
And I went back and read all of the
articles after the movie came out because

965
00:52:36,275 --> 00:52:40,235
it was like 97, 98, I feel like maybe 99.

966
00:52:40,375 --> 00:52:44,685
And so like, I was like 14, like I wasn't
reading the Globe on a regular basis.

967
00:52:44,685 --> 00:52:48,755
So I like went into the archives of the
Globe and like read all the articles and

968
00:52:48,755 --> 00:52:52,555
was like, wow, this was like an
unbelievable unveiling.

969
00:52:52,555 --> 00:52:53,473
And when

970
00:52:53,539 --> 00:52:57,819
When that all happened, I was finding out
about it on the news, obviously, but I

971
00:52:57,819 --> 00:53:02,679
didn't know that they broke it, that they
were the ones that were like, hey, we've

972
00:53:02,679 --> 00:53:05,639
done all of our research and we've
interviewed all these people.

973
00:53:05,819 --> 00:53:10,419
We tracked all these priests down and they
shouldn't have been priests anymore.

974
00:53:10,419 --> 00:53:13,439
This is a bigger thing.

975
00:53:13,439 --> 00:53:17,519
Then once that got unveiled, then they
started doing investigations in all of

976
00:53:17,519 --> 00:53:18,759
these other states.

977
00:53:18,759 --> 00:53:20,899
It was like...

978
00:53:21,955 --> 00:53:28,955
It was really, it was sad and gross and
thank you to the spotlight team on that.

979
00:53:29,315 --> 00:53:32,435
Should we move on to our bad adaptations?

980
00:53:32,695 --> 00:53:34,065
All right.

981
00:53:36,300 --> 00:53:39,580
We've talked about this before, but I...

982
00:53:39,580 --> 00:53:42,380
This is like one of my heart books, Bear
Town by Frederick Bachman.

983
00:53:42,380 --> 00:53:47,760
And I really had the highest possible
hopes for this show.

984
00:53:47,860 --> 00:53:52,600
When I found out it was coming out, I was
like counting down to the days and it was

985
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:54,040
on HBO.

986
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:55,740
Was it six episodes?

987
00:53:55,740 --> 00:53:57,600
It was something short.

988
00:53:57,600 --> 00:53:58,619
I think it was six.

989
00:53:58,619 --> 00:54:01,119
so bad I tried to block it out

990
00:54:02,708 --> 00:54:08,408
I hate to say like negative things, but it
just, it did not do the book justice.

991
00:54:08,408 --> 00:54:12,168
You did not get any of the backstory on
any of the characters.

992
00:54:12,168 --> 00:54:15,248
You didn't fall in love with them the way
you do in the book.

993
00:54:15,248 --> 00:54:18,108
You weren't even really rooting for
anyone.

994
00:54:18,108 --> 00:54:22,499
You, it just felt very unattainable.

995
00:54:22,499 --> 00:54:26,399
co - So my whole family has read this book
and we all watch the show.

996
00:54:26,399 --> 00:54:28,719
Me, my brother, my stepdad, and my mom.

997
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:33,175
It's very unusual that any book has been
read by all four of us.

998
00:54:34,531 --> 00:54:40,511
Our biggest complaint about it was the
heart -wrenching conflict that happens

999
00:54:40,511 --> 00:54:45,871
like 250 pages into the book happens in
the second episode.

1000
00:54:46,091 --> 00:54:49,641
It's like, I don't know who adapted it.

1001
00:54:49,641 --> 00:54:54,971
I don't know who signed off on it, but
it's like the pace of it and what they

1002
00:54:54,971 --> 00:54:58,371
decided to focus on is idiotic.

1003
00:54:59,172 --> 00:55:03,748
I remember one day I actually visioned.

1004
00:55:03,748 --> 00:55:07,968
each episode would go, because this was
back when I was like in my, maybe I should

1005
00:55:07,968 --> 00:55:12,528
stop writing books and start writing
scripts mentality.

1006
00:55:12,548 --> 00:55:19,428
And this could have been like the most
beautifully done show.

1007
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:24,340
And it just it lacked the heart that is in
the book.

1008
00:55:24,340 --> 00:55:26,860
So yeah, I'm sorry.

1009
00:55:26,860 --> 00:55:28,860
But this was a no.

1010
00:55:29,224 --> 00:55:35,344
Yeah, I'm just going to quickly say one
that we've dissected at length in previous

1011
00:55:35,344 --> 00:55:38,874
episodes, which is that I loved the book,
The Idea of You by Robin Lee.

1012
00:55:38,874 --> 00:55:45,264
I was so looking forward to this movie and
I just felt like they got it so wrong.

1013
00:55:45,264 --> 00:55:51,404
It's one of those cases where like just
the essence of the characters felt so

1014
00:55:51,404 --> 00:55:52,584
different.

1015
00:55:52,944 --> 00:55:55,424
Obviously, there are going to be changes
in the adaptations.

1016
00:55:55,424 --> 00:55:56,434
You have to cut a lot.

1017
00:55:56,434 --> 00:55:58,408
There's not as much space for things.

1018
00:55:58,408 --> 00:56:02,608
but it just felt like the core
requirements of what happened between

1019
00:56:02,608 --> 00:56:07,208
these two characters were missing and for
how much press they did and how much hype

1020
00:56:07,208 --> 00:56:11,628
there was around it, it just felt like a
giant flop to me.

1021
00:56:13,187 --> 00:56:15,827
Do either of you have more than one bad?

1022
00:56:16,187 --> 00:56:17,407
Okay, I have two.

1023
00:56:17,407 --> 00:56:18,827
So I'll say both of mine.

1024
00:56:18,827 --> 00:56:22,647
The first one is Little Fires Everywhere
by Celeste Ng.

1025
00:56:22,647 --> 00:56:27,707
And the backstory on that is that Steph
and I went to the launch party with

1026
00:56:27,707 --> 00:56:30,147
Celeste Ng of that book at Porter Square
Book.

1027
00:56:30,147 --> 00:56:31,987
So like, we were in it.

1028
00:56:31,987 --> 00:56:35,516
We had a piece of the cake that her
writing group created.

1029
00:56:35,516 --> 00:56:37,475
the only non friends that came.

1030
00:56:37,475 --> 00:56:39,495
know it was like publicized.

1031
00:56:39,495 --> 00:56:40,895
I mean, it was only her second book.

1032
00:56:40,895 --> 00:56:41,795
She hadn't blown up yet.

1033
00:56:41,795 --> 00:56:44,095
This was the book that like put her on the
map.

1034
00:56:44,095 --> 00:56:48,855
And like we were at the book talk and she
was like, I got an email from the Reese

1035
00:56:48,855 --> 00:56:52,535
Witherspoon and she wants to adapt this
and she's going to have it be in her book

1036
00:56:52,535 --> 00:56:52,855
club.

1037
00:56:52,855 --> 00:56:58,325
And we were like at the event where she
like told people that, which was so cool.

1038
00:56:58,325 --> 00:57:00,615
And we have great pictures from it.

1039
00:57:00,615 --> 00:57:05,788
And so like I read that book and you want
to talk about

1040
00:57:05,788 --> 00:57:11,528
some words, behind closed doors, family,
trauma, etc., etc., like buried secrets.

1041
00:57:11,528 --> 00:57:13,468
I mean, that book has a whole lot of it.

1042
00:57:13,468 --> 00:57:15,988
It's so well written.

1043
00:57:16,348 --> 00:57:20,328
And it's like, it's so, it takes place in
Schumer Heights, which like was the place

1044
00:57:20,328 --> 00:57:22,688
that I didn't really know very much about.

1045
00:57:23,128 --> 00:57:24,928
And it's so good.

1046
00:57:25,048 --> 00:57:27,319
And then I got recently to have Joe, which
we

1047
00:57:27,319 --> 00:57:28,999
already talked about big little lies.

1048
00:57:28,999 --> 00:57:31,719
And you're like, OK, this is going to be
amazing.

1049
00:57:31,719 --> 00:57:32,639
It stunk.

1050
00:57:32,639 --> 00:57:33,719
It was not good.

1051
00:57:33,719 --> 00:57:35,299
I didn't even finish it.

1052
00:57:35,299 --> 00:57:36,819
The cast was amazing.

1053
00:57:36,819 --> 00:57:40,539
I mean, you got Kerry Washington, Josh
Jackson, Reese.

1054
00:57:40,539 --> 00:57:42,739
I was like, this is going to be
unbelievable.

1055
00:57:42,739 --> 00:57:44,599
No one was likable.

1056
00:57:44,799 --> 00:57:47,259
I felt like, again, they focused like Bear
Town.

1057
00:57:47,259 --> 00:57:49,379
They focused on the wrong things.

1058
00:57:49,379 --> 00:57:50,619
They like flat.

1059
00:57:50,619 --> 00:57:53,999
They didn't get you invested in any of the
characters.

1060
00:57:53,999 --> 00:57:59,469
I felt like the big twist that happens was
like overly hinted at in the show.

1061
00:57:59,469 --> 00:58:00,290
So like.

1062
00:58:00,290 --> 00:58:02,950
people that had read the book were like,
this just stupid.

1063
00:58:02,950 --> 00:58:04,480
I already found out what was going to
happen.

1064
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:08,690
And I was like, in the book, you don't see
it coming.

1065
00:58:08,790 --> 00:58:11,060
And I'm like, shoot, should I read the
book?

1066
00:58:11,060 --> 00:58:11,740
No, I'm not even gonna.

1067
00:58:11,740 --> 00:58:14,630
If you already see it at the show, you
know what's gonna happen.

1068
00:58:14,630 --> 00:58:15,390
You know what I mean?

1069
00:58:15,390 --> 00:58:21,950
It was like, the like foreshadowing that
happened in the book is like subtle and

1070
00:58:21,950 --> 00:58:25,570
you have to pay attention and like it's
literally and you have to work at it and

1071
00:58:25,570 --> 00:58:26,530
like.

1072
00:58:26,815 --> 00:58:29,155
it felt like a network TV show.

1073
00:58:29,155 --> 00:58:31,075
It was like such crap.

1074
00:58:31,075 --> 00:58:32,935
I was so disappointed.

1075
00:58:33,675 --> 00:58:36,995
And everyone should read the book and skip
the show in my opinion.

1076
00:58:36,995 --> 00:58:42,595
My other bad one, which again, I didn't
make it through this movie, The Giver.

1077
00:58:43,295 --> 00:58:46,615
I loved this book when I read it as a kid.

1078
00:58:46,615 --> 00:58:49,115
I've met Lois Lowry in real life.

1079
00:58:49,115 --> 00:58:53,335
I got starstruck because I was teaching
The Giver.

1080
00:58:54,795 --> 00:58:56,595
The book is stunning.

1081
00:58:56,815 --> 00:58:58,426
She is...

1082
00:58:58,492 --> 00:59:03,692
credited to have been one of the first
authors to really launch dystopian novels

1083
00:59:03,692 --> 00:59:07,132
beyond the Ray Bradbury's.

1084
00:59:07,132 --> 00:59:12,032
She was doing it in the 90s, and this had
been a genre that had been avoided for a

1085
00:59:12,032 --> 00:59:17,552
while, and she resurrected it and made it
appropriate for kids.

1086
00:59:17,652 --> 00:59:21,152
This book is top of the fifth grade, sixth
grade, seventh grade.

1087
00:59:21,152 --> 00:59:24,472
Ray Bradbury, and that was one of the
people.

1088
00:59:24,524 --> 00:59:26,444
you know, like the Kurt Long kids and all
that.

1089
00:59:26,444 --> 00:59:28,524
Those are high school things, really.

1090
00:59:28,524 --> 00:59:30,464
Or maybe even the animal farm.

1091
00:59:30,464 --> 00:59:31,135
So.

1092
00:59:31,135 --> 00:59:37,535
she really made it more accessible for
younger kids.

1093
00:59:37,535 --> 00:59:40,875
And like, it's a banned book.

1094
00:59:40,875 --> 00:59:42,315
It's a beloved book.

1095
00:59:42,315 --> 00:59:46,145
She won the Newberry, like, and she had
done Number of the Stars.

1096
00:59:46,145 --> 00:59:48,884
So this was like a real pivot and

1097
00:59:48,884 --> 00:59:52,534
It's a beautiful book, because you have to
write it before you show it, as an adult,

1098
00:59:52,534 --> 00:59:53,163
you can do it.

1099
00:59:53,163 --> 00:59:54,193
in one or two sittings.

1100
00:59:54,193 --> 00:59:56,543
It's really like pretty quick.

1101
00:59:58,083 --> 00:59:59,843
It's on a lot of summer reading lists.

1102
00:59:59,843 --> 01:00:00,943
It's just wonderful.

1103
01:00:00,943 --> 01:00:03,603
And it got adapted as a movie.

1104
01:00:03,623 --> 01:00:07,423
And again, the cast, I mean, Taylor Swift
is in it.

1105
01:00:07,683 --> 01:00:14,223
And, you know, it got really like the star
treatment, like it's all the promos and

1106
01:00:14,223 --> 01:00:15,492
the this and that.

1107
01:00:15,492 --> 01:00:18,662
I think that's an option for your 40
minutes on it.

1108
01:00:18,662 --> 01:00:19,642
And I really like it.

1109
01:00:19,642 --> 01:00:23,492
This is the biggest disappointment.

1110
01:00:24,075 --> 01:00:30,415
It was just, it was like corny and like
they added music to it and it like didn't

1111
01:00:30,415 --> 01:00:31,115
need it.

1112
01:00:31,115 --> 01:00:35,755
And like, I, Jeff Bridges was playing the
giver and I was like, this is going to

1113
01:00:35,755 --> 01:00:36,545
blow my mind.

1114
01:00:36,545 --> 01:00:42,635
And like it, the script was so like the
people in it did the best they could with

1115
01:00:42,635 --> 01:00:45,731
what they were given, but the script was.

1116
01:00:45,731 --> 01:00:49,680
awful and everyone should skip it.

1117
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:54,271
It's just and I had students that read the
like I taught the Giver and they were

1118
01:00:54,271 --> 01:00:56,811
like, well, Miss Madison, have you like
seen the movie?

1119
01:00:56,811 --> 01:00:58,461
And I was like, don't even go near it.

1120
01:00:58,461 --> 01:01:00,251
Don't even think about it.

1121
01:01:02,176 --> 01:01:05,996
some kids that were like, I watched the
movie because I thought it might help me

1122
01:01:05,996 --> 01:01:07,039
with my knowledge.

1123
01:01:07,039 --> 01:01:08,989
and like the stuff that I needed to hand
in.

1124
01:01:08,989 --> 01:01:12,739
And they were like, not even a little,
like not even.

1125
01:01:12,919 --> 01:01:15,989
I mean, we're talking 12 year olds were
like, Miss Madison, you're right.

1126
01:01:15,989 --> 01:01:17,299
This is trash.

1127
01:01:17,299 --> 01:01:21,619
If 12 year olds are saying that and
they're like, my gosh, the book is so much

1128
01:01:21,619 --> 01:01:22,199
better.

1129
01:01:22,199 --> 01:01:23,849
I'm talking about 12 year old boys.

1130
01:01:23,849 --> 01:01:24,829
You don't even like to read.

1131
01:01:24,829 --> 01:01:26,799
We're like, what a garbage movie that was.

1132
01:01:26,799 --> 01:01:28,009
So don't watch it.

1133
01:01:28,009 --> 01:01:28,569
Skip it.

1134
01:01:28,569 --> 01:01:29,679
You don't need it.

1135
01:01:29,679 --> 01:01:30,821
The end.

1136
01:01:32,152 --> 01:01:35,532
Okay, let's talk about what we're reading
now.

1137
01:01:37,884 --> 01:01:44,044
I read Victoria Aveyard's Red Queen in two
sittings.

1138
01:01:44,844 --> 01:01:48,664
Do you guys remember how you felt when you
finished The Hunger Games?

1139
01:01:49,404 --> 01:01:50,444
Do you remember?

1140
01:01:51,564 --> 01:01:54,304
Okay, that's how I felt reading this book.

1141
01:01:54,651 --> 01:01:57,191
my, what an accolade!

1142
01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:00,880
So it's another haves and have nots story.

1143
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:09,560
It is about a girl, Mare, who comes from a
family of five kids.

1144
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:14,799
At the start of the story, the father is
disabled from the war.

1145
01:02:15,060 --> 01:02:22,340
They are struggling to get by, so she has
become a pickpocket to kind of, you know.

1146
01:02:23,327 --> 01:02:26,267
Her sister's helping, her brothers have
all been shipped off to war.

1147
01:02:26,267 --> 01:02:29,787
So it's the two younger girls and the
parents just trying to make it by.

1148
01:02:29,787 --> 01:02:38,887
And the haves are the silvers, which are
human but not because they all have like

1149
01:02:38,887 --> 01:02:45,167
abilities, which reminded me of, I'm
blanking, but like districts one and two,

1150
01:02:45,167 --> 01:02:46,667
what were they called?

1151
01:02:47,347 --> 01:02:48,877
The tributes in those districts.

1152
01:02:48,877 --> 01:02:51,247
They were like, they'd been trained
forever.

1153
01:02:51,447 --> 01:02:52,677
Do you remember?

1154
01:02:52,715 --> 01:02:54,032
know what they're called.

1155
01:02:54,032 --> 01:02:56,052
it reminded me of that.

1156
01:02:56,412 --> 01:03:00,112
So the Reds are just normal humans, don't
have powers.

1157
01:03:01,152 --> 01:03:06,952
And Mayor meets this boy, she's
pickpocketing him, he catches her, and he

1158
01:03:06,952 --> 01:03:11,522
gets her a job for the Silvers, like in
the King's household.

1159
01:03:11,522 --> 01:03:16,432
And so, you know, this will provide for
her family, so she can't say no to it.

1160
01:03:16,432 --> 01:03:20,752
So she goes there, and they are having
what is called the Queen's Trial, where

1161
01:03:20,752 --> 01:03:22,976
all these young girls are basically

1162
01:03:22,976 --> 01:03:28,316
showing off their powers in order to
perform, to be chosen, to be the eldest

1163
01:03:28,316 --> 01:03:30,956
prince's basically bride.

1164
01:03:30,995 --> 01:03:37,796
And in that, this thing happens where she
ends up displaying a power, which isn't

1165
01:03:37,796 --> 01:03:39,876
possible because she's a red.

1166
01:03:40,616 --> 01:03:47,676
So the silvers and the king and the queen
and all them in a panic decide, well, we

1167
01:03:47,676 --> 01:03:50,938
can't admit that someone who's human
actually has powers.

1168
01:03:51,366 --> 01:03:55,841
And they say she's like a long lost silver
princess.

1169
01:03:55,841 --> 01:03:59,554
This kind of is giving like shadow and
bone vibes.

1170
01:03:59,554 --> 01:04:00,584
I didn't read it.

1171
01:04:00,584 --> 01:04:02,446
I only watched the show.

1172
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:06,250
this is full of action.

1173
01:04:06,250 --> 01:04:07,570
It's YA.

1174
01:04:08,270 --> 01:04:11,810
it has sort of a Hunger Games feel
because, you know, her family is still

1175
01:04:11,810 --> 01:04:17,250
struggling back, back home and she can't
say no to what's happening because she

1176
01:04:17,250 --> 01:04:19,010
needs to protect them type thing.

1177
01:04:19,010 --> 01:04:24,630
And the excess of like the silver court is
just like disgusting and gross.

1178
01:04:25,030 --> 01:04:26,790
I think there are five books in the
series.

1179
01:04:26,790 --> 01:04:31,030
As soon as we get home from this little
beach trip, I'm going to go to Belmont

1180
01:04:31,030 --> 01:04:33,377
books and get the...

1181
01:04:33,377 --> 01:04:35,927
of them because it was great.

1182
01:04:35,927 --> 01:04:39,482
It was a fun little, you know, vacation.

1183
01:04:39,482 --> 01:04:41,462
this fantasy land.

1184
01:04:42,085 --> 01:04:46,266
There's no better feeling than getting to
the end of part one of a series and being

1185
01:04:46,266 --> 01:04:49,386
like, I cannot wait to read everything
else that exists.

1186
01:04:49,386 --> 01:04:50,726
That's the best.

1187
01:04:51,446 --> 01:04:57,186
I finished yesterday, Sun Kissed by Casey
West, which I mentioned during our last

1188
01:04:57,186 --> 01:05:01,786
episode, I had gotten as just an impulse
purchase in Buttonwood Books.

1189
01:05:02,026 --> 01:05:06,646
The premise of this story is basically
dirty dancing, except instead of a dance

1190
01:05:06,646 --> 01:05:08,836
competition, it's a music competition.

1191
01:05:09,549 --> 01:05:15,489
Ava set a standard camp and starts to fall
for one of the staff members who is in the

1192
01:05:15,489 --> 01:05:16,329
stand.

1193
01:05:16,869 --> 01:05:21,229
I wasn't very nervous like, is it just
gonna fall the same as I thought it would?

1194
01:05:21,229 --> 01:05:24,069
It did fall the same as I thought it
would.

1195
01:05:24,169 --> 01:05:26,729
The picture was excellent.

1196
01:05:26,906 --> 01:05:33,366
Avery also has a younger sister who is on
TikTok and wants to make a documentary all

1197
01:05:33,366 --> 01:05:34,386
about the band.

1198
01:05:34,386 --> 01:05:38,742
So she's like a fun little like pipsqueaky
character.

1199
01:05:39,388 --> 01:05:45,658
and I read a lot of spicy books these days
and I was also like, this is YA.

1200
01:05:45,898 --> 01:05:49,638
Am I going to just feel like bored by the
fact that nothing's really happening here?

1201
01:05:49,638 --> 01:05:54,838
And honestly, the banter was so good that
it made up for the lack of anything like

1202
01:05:54,838 --> 01:05:58,138
steamy or spicy that wasn't included.

1203
01:05:59,138 --> 01:06:01,818
it was just a delight to read.

1204
01:06:01,818 --> 01:06:05,728
Great beach read, great pool read, great
plane read, just easy.

1205
01:06:05,728 --> 01:06:07,458
It's like magic 106 .7.

1206
01:06:07,458 --> 01:06:08,894
Easy listening.

1207
01:06:09,029 --> 01:06:11,569
That is a great

1208
01:06:11,877 --> 01:06:18,497
great way to describe, because that's for
if you don't live in Boston, that's the

1209
01:06:18,497 --> 01:06:20,557
channel that does soft rock.

1210
01:06:20,557 --> 01:06:25,837
And also it does bedtime magic, which is
like.

1211
01:06:26,457 --> 01:06:31,637
So when I was like in middle and high
school, like that's the station I used to

1212
01:06:31,637 --> 01:06:36,797
put on and like daydream about slow
dancing with my crush.

1213
01:06:37,397 --> 01:06:39,653
So yeah, OK.

1214
01:06:39,653 --> 01:06:44,433
I that's now my new favorite way to
describe something like that.

1215
01:06:44,433 --> 01:06:49,323
Just nostalgic and yeah, I love that
description.

1216
01:06:49,323 --> 01:06:50,523
It's a bedtime magic book.

1217
01:06:50,523 --> 01:06:51,183
I got you.

1218
01:06:51,183 --> 01:06:51,703
I am.

1219
01:06:51,703 --> 01:06:53,133
We're on the same page.

1220
01:06:54,093 --> 01:06:54,833
Okay.

1221
01:06:54,833 --> 01:06:59,473
I finished a book called Even If It Breaks
Your Heart by Aaron Hahn and I'm not going

1222
01:06:59,473 --> 01:07:03,973
to get too into it because Steph just
ripped through it also and now Molly's

1223
01:07:03,973 --> 01:07:06,313
going to read it and I think we're going
to do an episode about it.

1224
01:07:06,313 --> 01:07:07,273
But

1225
01:07:08,485 --> 01:07:19,985
I will say it is a rodeo romance and and
YA and I think that the cool kind of like

1226
01:07:19,985 --> 01:07:26,625
twist about this is that the boy lead is
grieving his best friend passing away like

1227
01:07:26,625 --> 01:07:34,145
from page one of the book and it's a huge
part of the story and he is on this

1228
01:07:34,145 --> 01:07:38,597
journey of like figuring out who he is
without this best friend and like

1229
01:07:38,597 --> 01:07:40,307
Does he still want to do rodeo?

1230
01:07:40,307 --> 01:07:42,797
Was he doing rodeo because his best friend
did it?

1231
01:07:42,797 --> 01:07:49,097
He lives on a ranch and the girl works on
the ranch and he's like never really

1232
01:07:49,097 --> 01:07:50,107
noticed her before.

1233
01:07:50,107 --> 01:07:52,527
And so it's like, again, a have and have
nots, right?

1234
01:07:52,527 --> 01:07:56,637
Like she works there, his family owns it.

1235
01:07:57,077 --> 01:07:58,987
Sparks fly, good banter.

1236
01:07:58,987 --> 01:08:00,937
She doesn't put up with any nonsense.

1237
01:08:00,937 --> 01:08:06,077
He's kind of like a fuck boy at the
beginning of it and like kind of just

1238
01:08:06,077 --> 01:08:08,143
meandering his way through life.

1239
01:08:08,453 --> 01:08:10,833
I found it so enjoyable.

1240
01:08:11,253 --> 01:08:17,573
I ordered another one of her books, which
is about a country music star who has a

1241
01:08:17,573 --> 01:08:20,273
fall from grace very publicly.

1242
01:08:21,153 --> 01:08:23,633
And so I ordered that from Amazon.

1243
01:08:23,633 --> 01:08:27,253
And I also started following her on social
media.

1244
01:08:27,253 --> 01:08:30,353
And she just seems very cool.

1245
01:08:30,453 --> 01:08:31,853
And

1246
01:08:32,837 --> 01:08:36,357
I'm not going to get too much into it, but
Molly, I think you're going to enjoy the

1247
01:08:36,357 --> 01:08:41,217
acknowledgments of this book because
there's some things that are personally

1248
01:08:41,217 --> 01:08:45,217
related to her real life that got put into
this book.

1249
01:08:45,834 --> 01:08:48,334
If this is your first time listening to
Plans are Booked, you may not know that

1250
01:08:48,334 --> 01:08:51,454
I'm obsessed with acknowledgements, that I
always read them, and that I often call

1251
01:08:51,454 --> 01:08:54,734
them out when we are chatting about books
here on the pod.

1252
01:08:54,734 --> 01:08:56,274
So I'm excited for that.

1253
01:08:56,274 --> 01:09:00,794
And yes, Steph was ripping through the end
of this yesterday while we were here

1254
01:09:00,794 --> 01:09:04,374
together, and I'm very excited to be the
next one to read it.

1255
01:09:04,754 --> 01:09:08,194
If you guys want to follow along with
everything that we've got going on, all

1256
01:09:08,194 --> 01:09:11,694
the fun book memes we're sharing, you can
give us a follow on Instagram at

1257
01:09:11,694 --> 01:09:12,674
PlansAreBooked.

1258
01:09:12,674 --> 01:09:15,050
We will share every single...

1259
01:09:15,050 --> 01:09:18,505
book that we mentioned in this episode, so
if you're interested in those adaptations.

1260
01:09:18,505 --> 01:09:20,885
diligently doing her note taking.

1261
01:09:20,906 --> 01:09:22,886
Yes, you will see everything.

1262
01:09:22,886 --> 01:09:25,846
And you can always DM us if you have a
question about anything.

1263
01:09:26,046 --> 01:09:29,726
And if you have a topic idea for a future
app, we'd love to hear from you.

1264
01:09:29,726 --> 01:09:33,202
You can write to us at plansarebooked at
gmail .com.

1265
01:09:33,925 --> 01:09:38,747
And until next time, from Hall, our plans
are booked.