(00:00:02): Welcome to the Tya Podcast. (00:00:04): Tya is an advanced operating system for life, (00:00:07): delivering personal sovereignty through elite emotional mastery. (00:00:12): Welcome back, Andrea St. (00:00:14): Aman. (00:00:15): Thanks for having me here. (00:00:17): It's been a while. (00:00:19): Has it? (00:00:20): Yeah. (00:00:20): Well, I can't, I, I, um, did you, were you on in 2025? (00:00:24): I'm trying to remember. (00:00:26): I think I was, I feel like I have been, I feel like I've been on, um, maybe, maybe just once. (00:00:32): Maybe just once, though. (00:00:33): You know what? (00:00:34): I have been because I was writing my book and we talked about my book. (00:00:37): So what's going on with your book? (00:00:39): Well, the book came out in September and I really wanted it released by spooky season. (00:00:44): So I really wanted it released by October 1st. (00:00:48): I had a bunch of events in the fall. (00:00:49): So I put myself under a deadline and I was a crazy person. (00:00:53): I don't know if you have done that with your books, (00:00:55): but it was just the deadline having to get through was miserable. (00:00:59): But (00:01:00): I probably without it, I'd probably still be working on it. (00:01:03): I'd still be dragging it out. (00:01:05): So it got out the door. (00:01:07): I won an award. (00:01:08): I don't know if I told you that. (00:01:09): I won a creative writing award for it. (00:01:11): The William Faulkner, William Wisdom. (00:01:14): Oh, nice. (00:01:14): I've heard of that. (00:01:14): Congratulations. (00:01:15): Thank you. (00:01:16): It was runner up. (00:01:17): I've got the silver medal, not the gold, but I will take the silver. (00:01:19): Well, yeah, that's something major. (00:01:22): They had us down to New Orleans. (00:01:24): It was a very, very literary, (00:01:27): good spooky season also city. (00:01:30): I mean, yeah. (00:01:31): Um, but it's interesting. (00:01:32): I kept saying like, I'm not literary. (00:01:34): Like I don't write in a litter, what I consider to be a literary manner. (00:01:37): And I am a literature major. (00:01:39): I'm like, I don't write like these literary people do. (00:01:43): I write like, I want you to get punched in the gut with emotion. (00:01:47): And you know, I like see spot run, you know? (00:01:50): Um, but I, I got this thing and it, it really (00:01:56): changed the way I see myself and my book and my writing. (00:02:00): And I wrote the book, (00:02:03): probably the reason, (00:02:04): the same reason you wrote your first one is that I wanted, (00:02:07): people kept asking me about my story and how I got from this girl in West Virginia (00:02:12): to being a medium and a lawyer and all these other things that I've done. (00:02:14): And so I wrote my story and then the back half of the book is a reader's guide with (00:02:19): a bunch of exercises. (00:02:22): but I wrote it for my clients. (00:02:23): I wrote it for my specific audience. (00:02:25): I didn't write it to go the traditional publishing route. (00:02:28): Um, I wrote it to, to be a guide for my people. (00:02:33): And I wrote it to have kind of also to kind of have merch at the end of events. (00:02:39): So people at the end of event, people want to walk out with something more. (00:02:44): And they've done that. (00:02:45): That has I've sold out. (00:02:46): It's been great. (00:02:47): So it's been fabulous. (00:02:50): Um, (00:02:51): It's been really fabulous. (00:02:52): I was an Amazon bestseller, which, as you know, was not entirely hard to do. (00:02:56): But you do have to. (00:02:59): The first one, I did all these things to hit bestseller. (00:03:02): And we did. (00:03:02): It was lovely. (00:03:03): The second book has actually performed a lot better. (00:03:06): But I think we've hit bestseller like a few times just accident. (00:03:09): yeah i i just pop it just pops up and it's there and then it's gone and it's still (00:03:13): fun though it's still there's no it's energetic you know there's no rhyme or reason (00:03:18): and i i kind of prefer the energetic instead of like paying somebody to do all this (00:03:23): you know not manipulation but promotion you know to hit it so it's fun when it just (00:03:27): happens i just told everybody if you're gonna buy it buy it on this one day yeah (00:03:33): that's what they did all my friends my mom all the people um and all my clients but (00:03:38): anyway just (00:03:40): to the extent that I was feeling like I needed external validation, that award gave it to me. (00:03:46): I don't know. (00:03:46): It just really changed like how I saw my own story and how I saw, it was just really nice. (00:03:51): I have to say like, I didn't need it. (00:03:54): I didn't expect it. (00:03:55): It came out of left field and it was fabulous. (00:04:00): Well, good. (00:04:01): Now I can get a copy on Amazon, right? (00:04:04): And what's the title again? (00:04:06): Ghost Light. (00:04:08): Perfect name. (00:04:09): ghost light, a rogue's guide on how to break the rules and follow your inner knowing. (00:04:14): Oh, lovely. (00:04:15): I love that. (00:04:17): I'm all about inner knowing, you know? (00:04:18): Yeah. (00:04:19): I'm breaking rules for sure. (00:04:21): Well, that too. (00:04:23): Sometimes I'm a detriment, but yes, I love to break the rules. (00:04:27): I've always had that. (00:04:28): Michael said that because Michael is so funny. (00:04:30): He went through Catholic school all the way to his first master's degree. (00:04:37): And so he was raised to not break the rules and he works, (00:04:42): you know, (00:04:42): he works for the government and he's very much about following the rules all the (00:04:45): time. (00:04:46): Everything is, (00:04:47): Doesn't matter what it is. (00:04:48): And he was an only son. (00:04:50): An only child, only son. (00:04:51): So he probably had to be the ghost. (00:04:53): Only son, (00:04:53): Italian family, (00:04:54): Catholic, (00:04:55): educated, (00:04:56): definitely all about following the rules and following decorum. (00:04:58): So he and I are polar opposites that way. (00:05:00): I'm all about, you know, break the rules. (00:05:03): Not all the rules. (00:05:04): I've managed to never be arrested, so that's nice. (00:05:06): Yeah. (00:05:08): I do like to break the rules, especially the energetic rules and the matrix rules. (00:05:13): Yeah. (00:05:14): And my father, (00:05:15): before he passed away, (00:05:16): would tell this funny story that when I was a little kid and he left when I was (00:05:19): six. (00:05:20): So I had to be really young. (00:05:21): And he I kind of remember this. (00:05:24): I don't know if it's an actual memory or one of those memories that you conjure (00:05:26): because you've heard the story so many times. (00:05:28): But I I said a swear word, which they said all the time. (00:05:32): So I picked it up and repeated it. (00:05:34): And he kept threatening to wash my mouth out with soap. (00:05:37): Yes. (00:05:37): Yes. (00:05:38): and you know being a you know gen x generation of course he did and my response was (00:05:44): that tastes good oh my god even though it didn't even though you're like oh you (00:05:49): know i'm such a little wise ass that i'm sure i didn't care how it tasted i wasn't (00:05:53): going to give him the satisfaction of punishing me right yep so yeah that's and and (00:05:58): you know i'm about to turn 58 i'm still like (00:06:03): I'm still like that. (00:06:04): I've accepted that I just like to not really follow the matrix anymore. (00:06:09): There's certain elements of the matrix I like. (00:06:11): I stop when the light turns red, things like that. (00:06:14): I just don't like a lot of the matrix rules. (00:06:16): Yeah, but you follow the rules that make sense to you. (00:06:19): Yeah. (00:06:20): Well, stopping at the red light makes sense. (00:06:21): Exactly. (00:06:22): It makes practical sense. (00:06:23): But formal education, that didn't make sense to me, not for me. (00:06:27): And there's a lot of things that just don't necessarily make sense and don't have to. (00:06:30): And again, there's nothing wrong with any of these things. (00:06:32): It's just, what do we want to follow and what do we not? (00:06:37): Can we be a sovereign being already? (00:06:39): Yeah. (00:06:40): Yeah. (00:06:41): I love it. (00:06:42): Well, after last year, (00:06:45): Um, (00:06:46): and that fall, (00:06:47): um, (00:06:48): with, (00:06:48): with the book and I'm just, (00:06:49): I'm still so pleased with, (00:06:51): with how it turned out the cover and the cover art and all that thing. (00:06:54): I kind of crashed. (00:06:56): Um, and I was like, I know I have nothing left to say. (00:07:00): I never need to write ever anything again in my life. (00:07:02): I don't even need to write a social media post, but it's a good crash. (00:07:07): It's not like a burnout crash, um, or anything. (00:07:10): So it's, it's nice to have. (00:07:12): That out there and to have like now just going back to kind of to work to giving (00:07:17): readings and doing events. (00:07:19): And it's so funny. (00:07:20): Everyone listening to this is going to think this is planned because I just did the same thing. (00:07:26): And listening, Andrea and I are friends, but we don't, obviously we don't talk all the time. (00:07:30): And it's been months since we've caught up and we're literally catching up on this (00:07:34): podcast in front of all of you. (00:07:36): We're both super busy. (00:07:37): We jumped right on the last minute. (00:07:39): And I said, let's just catch up on the air and that will be the episode. (00:07:42): So it's so funny that you're saying that because I did the same thing. (00:07:48): More than the second half of last year, most of 2025, I spent really beefing up Thai Academy. (00:07:55): Yes. (00:07:57): Anybody in my orbit knows that we went crazy. (00:08:00): We retired Tya Bootcamp. (00:08:01): We launched this whole new program. (00:08:03): High stakes change. (00:08:05): We had all these people. (00:08:06): We even had a countess take this program. (00:08:09): And, you know, it was just this incredible thing. (00:08:12): And we switched technology. (00:08:14): We added all this technology. (00:08:16): I went back to the marketing person that sort of (00:08:22): You and I met in a marketing program years and years ago, right? (00:08:25): Yeah. (00:08:25): Well, the person that started that marketing program, I went to the one that taught her. (00:08:31): Oh, wow. (00:08:32): Yeah. (00:08:34): Like the Rolls Royce of marketing dudes, you know, and. (00:08:39): Did some of the things, (00:08:40): didn't do all the things I was supposed to do because I will never use fear to (00:08:43): market and I don't like to chase people. (00:08:46): So we installed all of that. (00:08:48): And then immediately all the things that like chased everybody like, (00:08:50): oh, (00:08:50): you need to get on a call and take the program. (00:08:52): I said, no, I don't like that vibe. (00:08:54): Shut all that down. (00:08:55): So we stripped away all the chasing. (00:08:58): We need you in our program. (00:09:00): You need to take our program. (00:09:01): We stripped all that down and the program died. (00:09:03): Yeah. (00:09:06): and i thought oh god you know we've spent all this money six figures we spent six (00:09:10): figures you know beefing up thai academy to make it a big thing i have a new fancy (00:09:15): sign you see my sign over my head has changed from where it always has been and all (00:09:20): of these things and started a new llc for it all that and you know scale and do all (00:09:24): this stuff and then it just completely died and i had this sort of ego collapse (00:09:28): around it for a minute and (00:09:30): I have the wherewithal to know when I'm in it that I'm just in it. (00:09:34): It's a temporary season. (00:09:36): But still, it was not pleasant. (00:09:37): It was one of the more unpleasant, (00:09:39): God, (00:09:40): it was probably one of the most unpleasant moments of my life when I just said, (00:09:43): I've done all this hard work. (00:09:45): And then I realized I'm so in the matrix. (00:09:50): I stopped France channeling during this period. (00:09:54): And that was the issue. (00:09:57): I remember you saying that. (00:09:59): I remember you actually saying, I don't think I'm going to be channeling live anymore. (00:10:03): I'm just going to be a coach. (00:10:05): I'm just going to be a dude. (00:10:08): Well, a coaching program, it makes sense. (00:10:10): And so when my ego finally collapsed, (00:10:15): I got this clarity because what was happening is while I was pushing and pushing (00:10:19): and working all these long hours to try to make this thing work, (00:10:22): I would wake up and the stream would be very active in my head. (00:10:26): everything that's going on out in the world and how fearful everyone is. (00:10:30): And this is, this is what's going on. (00:10:31): And this is how people can be less fearful and you can really be a sovereign being. (00:10:35): And I was taking that and thinking, Oh, I need to coach this. (00:10:39): I need to coach to this. (00:10:41): And it just wasn't working. (00:10:42): And we were all kind of scratching our heads saying, (00:10:44): gosh, (00:10:44): we're, (00:10:44): you know, (00:10:44): we're putting all this effort in. (00:10:45): Why isn't it working? (00:10:47): It's if we don't really follow what we teach. (00:10:49): We do, but that's, you know, spinning out as part of it. (00:10:51): That's just part of it. (00:10:52): So, (00:10:54): We let the spin out happen, or I let the spin out happen personally. (00:10:57): And I love to have a team of people that are just there with me no matter what. (00:11:00): They're good to go. (00:11:00): This is what we're doing now. (00:11:02): Fine. (00:11:03): And so they let me have my spin out process. (00:11:05): Ego collapsed. (00:11:07): I realized that, oh, when I quit my job in 2017, (00:11:12): I quit my job to channel, not to be a coach. (00:11:16): The coaching thing was sort of this, (00:11:17): hey, (00:11:18): if you want to learn how to make a living doing this instead of waiting for (00:11:21): channeling to take off when nobody knows who you are, (00:11:24): why don't you do a coaching? (00:11:24): And I did. (00:11:25): And then it turned into something really significant. (00:11:27): And that was beautiful. (00:11:29): But I finally realized that (00:11:32): And AI is way overrated at the moment for what it is. (00:11:37): But I will tell you, ChatGPT and I had a lovely little conversation. (00:11:41): And I was just saying, I'm trying to figure out how to do this. (00:11:43): I'm trying to get some clarity around this. (00:11:45): And I've cut off the stream. (00:11:47): And ChatGPT, (00:11:49): I think it was the stream coming to me through ChatGPT because it was the most (00:11:52): coherent thing I ever got from it. (00:11:54): It said, you cannot split your energy (00:11:58): Between channeling source consciousness and owning that and being that and just being that. (00:12:05): And also saying, oh, and by the way, you should take our coaching program. (00:12:07): Like the stream has never mentioned taking, they don't care about a coaching program. (00:12:11): They don't care about, (00:12:12): they're like your abundance is your abundance, (00:12:14): whether you want to have a coaching program or not. (00:12:16): But the ego driven David wasn't fully there. (00:12:18): And then when it said that, (00:12:20): because it was from a marketing perspective, (00:12:22): like you've got two different signals going on. (00:12:24): And you can't have both of these signals and really take off and do really well in (00:12:29): either of them when you're splitting like that. (00:12:31): And then I put the computer down, the phone down, let source flow. (00:12:37): And the interesting thing that happened is way back in 2018, (00:12:41): when I first met our mutual friend that taught us or tried to teach us these (00:12:44): things, (00:12:45): and I took off with it and you decided to go a different route. (00:12:48): Yeah. (00:12:51): thought at the time, because I was very skeptical of coaching and a lot of people still are. (00:12:56): And I will say there are wonderful coaches out there and wonderful programs. (00:12:59): I know people that have brilliant programs that are very helpful and there's plenty (00:13:03): of BS in any field. (00:13:04): So I remember questioning it. (00:13:10): And the stream saying, (00:13:12): if you want to teach people how to apply what you're channeling, (00:13:16): this could be a path and you can just allow this. (00:13:18): It'll be, you know, it's your choice. (00:13:20): Yeah. (00:13:20): I took that at the time as sort of a guidance because at that time I was still sort (00:13:27): of reading the stream as stream guide. (00:13:29): I used to use the word guidance and maybe we do so every once in a while, but. (00:13:34): I realize now eight years later that I've gotten much more familiar with the stream now. (00:13:39): That wasn't guidance. (00:13:41): It was just a positive appreciation-based, you could do this if you want. (00:13:45): Well, I took it and ran with it for eight years. (00:13:47): And now I realize that there was still that vibrational dust of me not fully (00:13:53): trusting the channeling to sustain me. (00:13:55): And that's why I got into coaching. (00:13:56): And then this off-ramp turned out to be a great thing, (00:13:58): but that doesn't mean I have to do it forever. (00:14:01): Yeah. (00:14:01): And what chat did that was wonderful, (00:14:03): if you have to pick one thing to do for the rest of your life, (00:14:06): what's it going to be? (00:14:06): Oh, I think I even used the F word. (00:14:09): I'm like, you know, absolutely channeling. (00:14:12): Absolutely channeling. (00:14:13): I don't have to worry about anybody's outcome or anybody's progression or marketing (00:14:18): or selling or posting or hashtags or any of that crap. (00:14:21): You know, nothing ever again. (00:14:23): I will share things. (00:14:24): That's it. (00:14:25): Here it is. (00:14:25): Here's the channeling. (00:14:27): Here's where we're doing it. (00:14:28): Here's how we make a business out of it. (00:14:29): And (00:14:31): that's that's that's so yeah there's so much there i want to follow up follow up on (00:14:36): um i think that we do have to get to a certain part as um as entrepreneurs in the (00:14:43): spiritual industry um that we are trusting our our connection and we are trusting (00:14:48): it can sustain us without burning us out like i've had to play with that balance (00:14:55): Um, (00:14:55): because when I first started mediumship, (00:14:57): I didn't think it was going to take off like it did, (00:14:59): which is why I didn't follow all the steps of that marketing coaches saying, (00:15:02): cause I didn't need to, (00:15:03): I took what worked for me and I didn't need to do anything else. (00:15:07): Um, but I also went at it. (00:15:09): Like I was a partner in a law firm again. (00:15:11): I mean, (00:15:11): I threw everything at it and I got really burned out by year five, (00:15:16): um, (00:15:17): year six, (00:15:18): I was just roasted. (00:15:20): So now it feels really good. (00:15:21): Like I can trust this. (00:15:23): Um, (00:15:24): I can, I can do events, which I love to do live events and do mediumship in front of people. (00:15:31): I absolutely love to hold that space and I can just slowly grow it. (00:15:36): I can work how I want to work, (00:15:38): but it takes a certain level of, (00:15:40): of trust in ourselves and the process and no attachment to the outcome. (00:15:46): And it's so much easier said than done. (00:15:47): But I mean, I actually write about that a lot. (00:15:50): Like, (00:15:50): You go at it. (00:15:51): I tell this comes up in readings for clients, (00:15:54): a lot of like, (00:15:54): go at it full force, (00:15:56): no attachment to the outcome because the outcome's probably going to be better than (00:15:59): you expect, (00:16:01): which actually, (00:16:02): oddly enough, (00:16:02): yours is. (00:16:05): It's not the outcome you expected with the high-stakes change. (00:16:08): It's not the outcome you expected, but I think you got a better outcome for 2026. (00:16:12): There's a reason behind everything, and everything is an energetic experience, and that was. (00:16:20): What I had to teach myself a year and six figures later was that I don't need to do that. (00:16:26): I can literally just... (00:16:29): Get my ego out of the way channel. (00:16:30): I know I do that very well. (00:16:32): I'm not going to do it here on the podcast. (00:16:33): I'm going to do it in live transmissions. (00:16:35): I'm starting on February 28th. (00:16:37): This probably airs after that. (00:16:39): February 28th, I'm going to start doing biweekly live transmissions. (00:16:43): two hours every other Saturday and people can go on my website, (00:16:47): buy a ticket or buy a subscription and show up to these transmissions. (00:16:50): They can submit questions. (00:16:51): They can just be in that space stream. (00:16:53): I'm not going to talk at all. (00:16:54): I'm going to go in, I'm going to meditate. (00:16:55): We're all going to meditate together. (00:16:56): I'm going to channel for two hours and that's it. (00:16:59): And I've always done session work. (00:17:01): The sessions are different than it's not coaching. (00:17:03): My sessions have always been, (00:17:04): I channel for someone privately, (00:17:06): sometimes groups, (00:17:07): sometimes companies. (00:17:08): And yeah, (00:17:10): I pull those off the market because I get so busy coaching, (00:17:13): but now I'm like, (00:17:14): I really like that session work because again, (00:17:16): I'm not, (00:17:17): we're not expecting an outcome. (00:17:19): We are delivering source clarity for someone and they do with that what they want, (00:17:24): which is me really trusting the person buying the session just to do it. (00:17:27): It's like what you do, right? (00:17:28): Absolutely. (00:17:29): So I'm just doing session packages and when they fill up, they fill up. (00:17:33): I'm doing my every other Saturday, you know, biweekly thing. (00:17:37): And then I'm keeping my mastermind. (00:17:39): The mastermind part, because that wasn't coaching. (00:17:42): That was always people that were really geeking out on the stream, you know, coming together. (00:17:46): And we all contribute to it. (00:17:49): And we just go really, really, really deep into that consciousness. (00:17:52): And it's really a cool space. (00:17:54): I'm going to keep that going. (00:17:55): And I'm actually going to open that up to everybody. (00:17:57): You don't have to be an academy person anymore. (00:17:59): You have to fill out an application. (00:18:00): I'll interview people. (00:18:01): I just want to make sure that they're of the right mindset. (00:18:04): Of course, they're the right vibration for you. (00:18:06): Right. (00:18:06): They've got to contribute more than just financially. (00:18:09): They've got to come in and contribute intellectually to it. (00:18:13): And that's all I'm going to do. (00:18:14): And right now, as far as I can tell, that's all I'm going to do for the rest of my life. (00:18:17): I'm completely fine with that. (00:18:18): You're fine. (00:18:19): So you're ready to create something new, right? (00:18:21): Until it morphs and changes or whatever. (00:18:23): So the mastermind, though, makes sense to me because some people do want (00:18:29): They can feel it when they're in that session with you, (00:18:32): but then like they go back to their lives and they're like, (00:18:35): I need accountability to really kind of integrate this change into my 3D self. (00:18:41): So people have asked me for that too, and I've just resisted it. (00:18:44): I'm like, no, 45 minutes is enough. (00:18:48): You know what we do in our mastermind is we take turns hosting. (00:18:52): We bring the stream in whenever they want to stream. (00:18:54): I love channeling, so why not? (00:18:56): But when I started back up, I wasn't even channeling in there. (00:19:00): I just started it back in 2026. (00:19:03): And I wasn't even channeling in there. (00:19:05): And the first time I did, we went for three hours. (00:19:07): It's like the stream had pent up information. (00:19:09): I know. (00:19:11): And there was all this energy coming out. (00:19:13): So now I am clipping some stream for TikTok because I think it's a good place just (00:19:19): to put it out. (00:19:20): And if you love me, you love me. (00:19:21): If you hate me, you hate me. (00:19:22): Here it is. (00:19:23): Again, no caption, no hashtags, nothing fancy. (00:19:27): Here's a clip of channeling. (00:19:28): And publicly, that's going to be the only place. (00:19:31): We might repurpose it on some of the social media, but primarily TikTok is my place. (00:19:36): So what have you done with Bootcamp? (00:19:38): Did you totally retire bootcamp? (00:19:39): Oh, bootcamp retired. (00:19:40): Oh yeah, we retired that in mid 2025. (00:19:43): We had one last, (00:19:44): right at the last minute, (00:19:46): I put an email out saying, (00:19:47): if you want to take bootcamp, (00:19:48): now's the time to do it. (00:19:49): We had 12 people sign up instantly and they went through and then some of them went (00:19:53): on to take high stakes change. (00:19:55): What I'm doing, (00:19:56): we're not doing this right now, (00:19:58): but in the next couple of months, (00:19:59): we're going to offer those modules. (00:20:01): Okay, that's where I was going with this. (00:20:03): The modules are very valuable. (00:20:05): You're just not going to get me coaching because I'm retired from coaching. (00:20:09): It felt like this was something that could run on its own at this point. (00:20:13): Yeah, and it will. (00:20:14): I want to focus on the stream for a little while and kind of get that focus again. (00:20:18): I just can't keep doing a thousand things at once because we were doing an app. (00:20:23): We were building the academy. (00:20:25): I'm doing a new cover for the Tya book. (00:20:29): which was much more involved than I thought. (00:20:31): But I tell everybody, I'm going from a $500 cover to a $10,000 cover. (00:20:35): So you're spending that much money on a book cover. (00:20:38): It's much more involved, but that's going to be the cover forever for that book. (00:20:43): And that's turned out to be sort of a canon for the practice that can live on beyond me. (00:20:49): So yeah, that's, it's just a lot going on. (00:20:52): A lot going on. (00:20:52): It's so funny how aligned we are with a lot going on, (00:20:55): but a lot of paring down and getting just staring down. (00:20:58): That's the way to do it. (00:20:59): It feels great. (00:21:00): It feels really great. (00:21:01): Um, (00:21:01): I thought I do actually, (00:21:03): even though I thought I didn't have anything further to say in terms of writing, (00:21:06): I have like, (00:21:08): I do have something like coming, (00:21:10): but I feel like I'm just going to write it on my own, (00:21:13): um, (00:21:13): on my own time and on my own inspiration and not be like, (00:21:17): okay, (00:21:17): I have to have this done by (00:21:19): this X, Y, Z. So I'll see where that, where that takes me. (00:21:23): I want it to be fun. (00:21:24): Um, interesting that you said like that there's pent up energy. (00:21:29): I will say that is true with anybody's spiritual. (00:21:36): Hmm. (00:21:38): What am I spiritual ability that needs to be expressed out? (00:21:44): If you're not doing that because we all have spiritual abilities and consciousness (00:21:47): and we can go about our daily life with our own spiritual practices, (00:21:50): but if you're in a. (00:21:52): phase where you need to start communicating with clients or having clients are (00:21:56): communicating with the public and you're not doing that. (00:21:59): you do get pent up energy, (00:22:01): all that energy, (00:22:01): because it's literally, (00:22:02): you're vibrating at a high rate and it's not going, (00:22:05): it's not channeled. (00:22:05): It's not going out into the- Well, (00:22:07): energetically, (00:22:08): not only energetically am I containing it within my ego, (00:22:11): which we all, (00:22:12): you know, (00:22:12): we're here to operate an ego and to spin out and have these messy, (00:22:16): that's why I don't mind sharing it because, (00:22:18): you know, (00:22:19): nobody's perfect. (00:22:19): Everybody is having these challenges and things because that's what advances us. (00:22:23): That's what makes us, you know, more sophisticated versions of ourselves. (00:22:27): So, (00:22:28): You're right. (00:22:29): What I feel is not only is it welling up inside me, there's an asking that's not being answered. (00:22:38): And I made a commitment almost a decade ago that I was going to commit my life to (00:22:43): answering this. (00:22:43): And I put it on pause and it wrecked me to do that. (00:22:46): It does. (00:22:46): And it feels like anxiety. (00:22:48): And that does lead to- And I thought I was beyond anxiety because my life is just, (00:22:53): other than the house burning down a couple of years ago, (00:22:55): really my life has been really easy. (00:22:57): It's been magically easy. (00:22:58): Like, oh, my God, you know, this is this is really good in this last year. (00:23:03): Not so much. (00:23:03): It's high energy. (00:23:04): It's really, really high energy that needs the proper outlook. (00:23:07): And the more we advance, (00:23:09): the more we get forward on our path of consciousness, (00:23:12): the more that that outlet has to be so in alignment with who we are. (00:23:18): We can't. (00:23:20): do what we can try, (00:23:22): but you know, (00:23:22): what you were trying to be like, (00:23:23): I'm going to create this whole new thing. (00:23:24): This is going to be awesome. (00:23:25): But you're like, (00:23:26): your outlet needed to be streaming, (00:23:29): you know, (00:23:29): with the screening and channeling. (00:23:31): And it's fun to create other things just to maybe sometimes have that reinforced of (00:23:35): like, (00:23:36): okay, (00:23:36): I really wanted to do that, (00:23:37): but here we are. (00:23:39): Now I'm like, my ego wanted it. (00:23:43): My ego wanted a big academy. (00:23:44): And I don't know why, because I manage tons of people in corporate. (00:23:49): thousands of people in corporate and didn't want to, (00:23:51): I don't want to go back to anything like that again. (00:23:52): And the bigger any enterprise gets, the more corporate. (00:23:56): Yeah. (00:23:57): Yeah. (00:23:58): Well, you proved to yourself whatever you needed to prove. (00:24:01): I, (00:24:01): one thing you're not saying that I think is very interesting that you might've felt (00:24:06): eight, (00:24:07): nine, (00:24:07): 10 years ago, (00:24:08): you've not mentioned a sense of failure. (00:24:12): Oh no, it's an experience. (00:24:14): So that is clarity and letting something go. (00:24:17): That isn't my thing. (00:24:18): And I, and I, I wrote a long email, uh, (00:24:21): And Michael read it and said, are you crazy? (00:24:23): You know, where are you sharing all this? (00:24:24): I said, no, I want to, you know, this is, this is real. (00:24:27): If you're going to be around me, you're going to get everything real. (00:24:30): And this is actually, this podcast is pretty much going to be the only place that I'm just me. (00:24:35): This is my space to just be me and chat with people like you about all these things. (00:24:40): Everything else now is going to be the stream. (00:24:42): I'm going to contain it just like that. (00:24:44): And I like that I'm doing that. (00:24:46): Eventually I'll retire from doing this. (00:24:47): I still like doing podcasts though. (00:24:49): Yeah, I think it's great. (00:24:50): Well, (00:24:50): people still want to know who David is and what's David thinking about things now, (00:24:54): you know, (00:24:56): which is great. (00:24:57): I want to go back to spin out, too. (00:24:59): I did a big event in Pittsburgh on Valentine's Day, (00:25:04): and I'm fortunate to start developing an audience in Pittsburgh. (00:25:07): I have a great network there of women. (00:25:10): I love Pittsburgh. (00:25:12): I think it's one of the nation's best kept secrets. (00:25:17): It's so, you know, don't tell anybody how cool Pittsburgh's become. (00:25:21): Um, (00:25:22): but I got so leading up to this event, (00:25:26): I was so anxious and I haven't done an event this big since December, (00:25:32): October, (00:25:33): maybe it was October actually. (00:25:35): Um, (00:25:36): and I thought, (00:25:37): well, (00:25:37): maybe like I got my professional, (00:25:39): I know how to show up and get readings in public. (00:25:41): I know how to do this. (00:25:42): I know how to manage a crowd. (00:25:44): I like, what is wrong with me? (00:25:46): And I thought, well, maybe it's that pent up energy, but I could not get a grip on myself. (00:25:50): I have, my anxiety was like out of control. (00:25:53): My husband was like, what is wrong with him? (00:25:55): Like, dude, I don't know. (00:25:56): I cannot figure out what's wrong with me. (00:25:58): And, um, it was miserable and I'm like, okay, I'm never going to do this again. (00:26:01): I am just never going to do this again. (00:26:03): I'll do this one last event and I'll just go back to private readings. (00:26:07): One-on-ones. (00:26:07): I mean, I was literally talking about spinning out. (00:26:10): I was like, I was out and I'm like, girl, you got to get it together. (00:26:13): Cause you've got a stage you got to stand on. (00:26:15): And I knew your, your folks like the live events and you like the live events. (00:26:20): Oh, I love it. (00:26:21): I love it. (00:26:22): So I. (00:26:25): Got to this place. (00:26:27): I checked into where I was staying. (00:26:28): Turns out I was staying at a, (00:26:30): at a bed and breakfast, (00:26:31): an old fashioned bed and breakfast that is run by a charity and it's only for (00:26:36): caregivers. (00:26:37): And my friend said, this is where you need to stay. (00:26:39): It's a very therapeutic space. (00:26:41): And there's probably no going to be anybody else in the house. (00:26:43): They do grief therapy and counseling during the day. (00:26:46): They do a lot of meditative stuff. (00:26:48): And then they have like two rooms in this house that you can, you can rent out. (00:26:51): And I said, but I'm not a caregiver. (00:26:53): Cause I'm thinking caregiver means your mom or your dad is in your house living with you. (00:26:57): And she was like, no, you're a caregiver. (00:27:01): You're caring for like a hundred people while you're here in Pittsburgh. (00:27:04): What's wrong with you? (00:27:06): So I called the place and like, yeah, absolutely. (00:27:08): We just, this place is perfect for you. (00:27:10): I walked in and I didn't realize how spun out I was until I walked into the space (00:27:16): and instantly got a reboot. (00:27:19): I, everything just went whoosh. (00:27:21): And it was such a space of healing. (00:27:23): You could really feel the high intention with their high intention. (00:27:27): And it was just like, boom. (00:27:30): And I, (00:27:31): in that moment, (00:27:32): I knew that what I was walking into that night, (00:27:35): cause the event was that night was going to be so heavy and so intense. (00:27:40): And I was picking up on that ahead of time, (00:27:43): but my energy was building and building and building. (00:27:46): So I could hold space for 70 people in extreme grief and, (00:27:51): that's what happened. (00:27:52): So once I got there, it was a beautiful, perfect alignment. (00:27:56): I love it when that happens. (00:27:58): Oh my gosh. (00:27:59): And if I hadn't gone through that spin out, (00:28:01): if I hadn't felt every single cell of my body feeling, (00:28:06): I can't do this, (00:28:08): I can't take this. (00:28:10): If I hadn't gone there and then come through, (00:28:13): I would not have been able to deliver all those messages. (00:28:16): And that room, (00:28:17): was full of women. (00:28:18): And I bet everyone there had lost their husband or their brother or their son. (00:28:21): It was Valentine's Day. (00:28:23): And it was so like it was so special and so quiet. (00:28:28): It was this quiet energy. (00:28:30): And a friend of mine who's seen me work a lot was like, I've never seen a crowd like that. (00:28:35): Like, it's usually fun. (00:28:37): I mean, it was still very positive. (00:28:39): But she said the amount of grief in that space was unlike I've ever seen. (00:28:43): And nobody wanted to leave. (00:28:44): Three hours later, you know, we were getting kicked out of the room. (00:28:47): They're like, you guys got to go. (00:28:49): Things just kind of take on a life of their own and just do their thing. (00:28:52): And I think what happens is just like the source gets pent up. (00:28:57): Ego gets pent up too. (00:28:59): And we have an ego. (00:29:01): The ego is a thing that moves us through the human life experience. (00:29:04): We all have a version of it. (00:29:06): It definitely can get amped up. (00:29:08): The matrix does that for us. (00:29:09): But even if we detune it, it still comes back online. (00:29:12): Yeah. (00:29:13): Because we're in the world and there's value to that though. (00:29:18): That pent up ego energy always leads to a new higher level of source awareness. (00:29:26): Huge. (00:29:27): It was huge. (00:29:28): And I kept reminding myself this is happening for a reason. (00:29:31): If I weren't this all crazy, I probably wouldn't be delivering. (00:29:37): I probably wouldn't be holding space as well. (00:29:39): And then (00:29:40): you know, (00:29:40): the next morning I had a private group of eight and then I had another private (00:29:44): thing right after that. (00:29:45): And I was fine. (00:29:46): My high, high energy, super high energy, but man, I wish we could like skip that like icky part. (00:29:55): The part that just is just, so I don't, you know, I'm not going to go looking for it. (00:30:00): I, I, I will be fine at 58. (00:30:03): If I'm done with that, that level of spin out ever again would be lovely. (00:30:07): Um, we'll see, we'll see because, um, (00:30:11): Yeah, it definitely leveled me up. (00:30:13): It was painful while I was in it. (00:30:14): I moved through it in full awareness of where I was, but I still didn't have the functionality. (00:30:21): You would think, oh, you know all of this, David. (00:30:23): Can't you just snap your fingers and get out of it? (00:30:25): Well, that's why we created the spiral because you can't just jump up the spiral in most cases. (00:30:31): You've got to work your way up because there's value in that journey back up the spiral. (00:30:35): There really is. (00:30:36): And it's once you're on the other side, (00:30:39): I feel so grateful. (00:30:40): I feel so grateful for that week leading up to the event that I was absolutely (00:30:44): miserable and I couldn't figure it out. (00:30:46): And I didn't need to figure it out. (00:30:48): I needed to be experiencing it and living it and letting my power build. (00:30:53): I needed it. (00:30:54): Yeah. (00:30:55): One of the reasons I adore you so much and I love having you on is because you're (00:30:58): just like raw and real and, (00:31:00): you know, (00:31:02): I, uh, those are, those are my peeps, you know, people that can call it like it is. (00:31:06): None of us are perfect. (00:31:07): None of us, (00:31:08): you know, (00:31:08): that, (00:31:08): that gloss, (00:31:09): that varnish that, (00:31:10): uh, (00:31:11): a lot of folks have, (00:31:12): uh, (00:31:12): you know, (00:31:13): I understand why they're doing it. (00:31:14): I appreciate it, but that's just not my lane. (00:31:18): You know, my lane has always just been brutal honesty everywhere. (00:31:23): And that's one of the reasons I don't like doing events is that because I, uh, (00:31:30): I don't have a good customer service face. (00:31:33): I like doing my thing online. (00:31:34): That's always worked very well for me. (00:31:36): I meet people all over the world. (00:31:38): I could broadcast everywhere. (00:31:39): There's always a replay. (00:31:41): And the in-person events, when I'm channeling, it's very focused. (00:31:45): But when I'm not channeling, (00:31:46): especially when I'm finished channeling and I'm very drained of my energy, (00:31:49): I can come off very rude. (00:31:54): And I'm not trying to be an ass. (00:31:57): Anybody that's paying to come see me, I am very appreciative of that. (00:32:01): But I'm just like that. (00:32:03): And when I worked in retail, (00:32:05): I didn't really talk to the customers because even the guys that I worked for for (00:32:10): 10 years in Florida, (00:32:11): I ran their stores for them. (00:32:12): They're like, don't talk to customers. (00:32:14): Let the front office do all of that. (00:32:16): You go make us money. (00:32:17): You're good at that, but don't talk to any of the customers ever. (00:32:20): Because I was just, (00:32:21): if somebody had a legitimate problem, (00:32:23): I would go to the ends of the earth to help them solve it. (00:32:25): But a lot of times in retail, people have fake outrage. (00:32:30): Yeah. (00:32:31): My draperies ruined my life. (00:32:33): You know, that sort of drama. (00:32:34): And I have no tolerance for that. (00:32:37): I just really, you know, I just want to be like, really, your draperies are ruining your life. (00:32:40): Really? (00:32:41): What's going on in your life that your draperies are the biggest. (00:32:43): You know, it's interesting. (00:32:44): I, (00:32:45): um, (00:32:45): I neglected to say something at this event where I, (00:32:48): I tell people just that when, (00:32:49): when I am done giving readings, (00:32:51): I'm done. (00:32:52): I can't open that. (00:32:53): They all come and talk to you and you just can't, (00:32:55): and you're doing it to protect them because they don't understand how drained you (00:32:59): are. (00:32:59): Yeah. (00:32:59): Right. (00:33:00): And it's, it's just when the door is closed. (00:33:03): Once I got nothing left, I got nothing left. (00:33:04): So I can talk to you as Andrea, but you're not getting mediumship at that point. (00:33:09): You're not getting. (00:33:10): Andrea is exhausted because you've been channeling a massive energy through you, (00:33:14): you know, (00:33:15): through a human vehicle that isn't necessarily meant to do it that way. (00:33:19): Yes. (00:33:20): So I forgot to say when I'm done, I'm done. (00:33:22): So I did say, (00:33:23): you know, (00:33:23): I opened it up for questions just about my process and me and how things work, (00:33:27): spirit, (00:33:28): you know, (00:33:28): stuff, (00:33:29): basic questions. (00:33:30): Um, (00:33:30): the people like to ask, (00:33:31): and then I went to sign books and some people just want to share in private. (00:33:36): They don't feel comfortable opening themselves up to in front of, (00:33:39): you know, (00:33:40): a bunch of other people. (00:33:41): But I had one woman come up and say, like, she basically wanted a quick, a quick reading. (00:33:45): a something incredibly complicated that probably would have warranted an entire 45 (00:33:50): minute session. (00:33:51): And I didn't want to sell or like, Oh, book with me privately. (00:33:53): I was just like, I was so brain that I was so blunt. (00:33:59): I was like, I got nothing left. (00:34:02): I was like, I'm sorry. (00:34:04): I just like, I got, I got nothing. (00:34:07): I got nothing. (00:34:07): It's, it's blunt. (00:34:09): And I, sorry, (00:34:12): Well, (00:34:13): again, (00:34:14): there's one thing to appreciate people that are showing up, (00:34:17): but then sometimes they just want more and more and more of you. (00:34:20): And it's never going to be enough. (00:34:22): I heard early on, (00:34:23): because I have a few mutual friends with Esther Hicks, (00:34:26): and they talk about how she's very diligent and (00:34:30): Even on the cruises, you don't get Esther Hicks. (00:34:34): You get Abraham on stage and that's it. (00:34:36): She's sequestered away. (00:34:38): She's not virtualizing. (00:34:40): And that's wise. (00:34:42): I think she set her whole thing up very wisely, she and Jerry Hicks, very early on. (00:34:47): And I probably, these detours, I'm sure they had their detours early. (00:34:52): She's been doing this for about 40 years. (00:34:53): Yeah. (00:34:55): I'm in my first decade, (00:34:57): and I figure you spend your first decade really figuring things out, (00:35:00): and then you really get to enjoy your second decade. (00:35:03): I like that. (00:35:05): I like that. (00:35:05): I'm at the beginning of year nine right now. (00:35:08): Yeah, this is eight for me. (00:35:10): Yeah, you're about a year ahead of me then. (00:35:12): My math is wrong. (00:35:13): No, I'm at the beginning of year eight. (00:35:17): 2018. (00:35:17): Yeah, we started the same time. (00:35:19): I left my job at the end of 2017, and we started that program together at the beginning of 2018. (00:35:25): 2018. (00:35:26): So my first paid reading was January. (00:35:28): I remember it was New Year's Day on 2018. (00:35:31): So yeah, what year does that make us going into now? (00:35:34): I think we're at eight. (00:35:35): We're at 26. (00:35:35): We're starting year eight. (00:35:37): I love it. (00:35:38): I love that. (00:35:38): Yep. (00:35:39): Yep, (00:35:39): and we're kind of in the same place where we're both deciding that, (00:35:42): okay, (00:35:43): now we're eight years in. (00:35:44): Let's collapse all the stuff that isn't serving us anymore. (00:35:47): Let's just do what we love to do. (00:35:49): Let's just do what we freaking love to do and know that the universe will provide (00:35:53): no matter what. (00:35:54): Yes. (00:35:55): And it has. (00:35:55): It has. (00:35:59): coaching, coaching died for everybody after COVID. (00:36:02): So 2021 was an amazing year. (00:36:04): And then 2022 was not. (00:36:07): And I got down to where I had one person in, in, in bootcamp. (00:36:10): I remember that. (00:36:11): Yeah. (00:36:11): And then as soon as the, (00:36:12): this happened, (00:36:12): like three people in a row, (00:36:13): as soon as that person was going to graduate, (00:36:15): I was just going to shut it down because I was busy writing the book. (00:36:17): Somebody else shows up. (00:36:18): I want to take your bootcamp, you know, with no marketing or anything, but it got really quiet. (00:36:22): And then it just came back after I published the book, (00:36:25): everybody that read the book wanted to take bootcamp. (00:36:28): Yeah. (00:36:28): so everything it's got it's that that big idea has a life of its own and you might (00:36:33): have needed some down time you might have needed recharge refresh yeah i'm you know (00:36:37): i don't i don't regret at all any of it even the thing i'm just coming off of the (00:36:41): the sting of i don't regret it i know that in time i will see that it was (00:36:45): perfection and i i know that the way that i'm going to do this moving forward is (00:36:50): going to be so much simpler i i have said to myself i haven't said i i kind of got (00:36:55): away from goal setting (00:36:57): But I realized that when I was younger, (00:36:59): I set goals and every time I set a goal, (00:37:01): I hit the goal. (00:37:02): Oh yeah, me too. (00:37:04): If I set it, it's almost like, do I really want to set it because it's going to change my life? (00:37:07): I'm going to, I'll just put my nose down and. (00:37:10): Yeah. (00:37:10): Well, the goals now are different though. (00:37:12): Now, you know, I, I'm older than you and the goals shift to different things. (00:37:18): Like instead of having a goal of wanting to have a big company, (00:37:20): my goal is I want no more than three employees. (00:37:24): I want to manage three people. (00:37:26): I have two wonderful people right now. (00:37:27): I would add a third if we really needed them. (00:37:29): I have one person that takes care of all of the operational things. (00:37:33): I have one person that takes care of client experience things and technology. (00:37:37): And that's all I need right now. (00:37:40): and some contractors, (00:37:41): of course, (00:37:41): you know, (00:37:42): editors and things, (00:37:42): but I want no more than three people working in the business, (00:37:46): no matter how, (00:37:46): I don't want to get any bigger than that. (00:37:48): I want it to, you know, sustain all of us in a nice way. (00:37:51): I want to be able to do what I want to do when I want to do it. (00:37:54): And I, I don't want to travel a lot. (00:37:56): If I do live events, it's going to be no more than four year, everything else will be online. (00:38:01): I love that I have the studio and that I do a (00:38:05): know the the session work is all here on zoom unless somebody wants to come here (00:38:09): i've done that a couple of times you know people that are local um right i love (00:38:14): that that's all i want do you do any session work at your house no i will i spoke (00:38:19): too quickly only people i know who are friends here locally um but when i was in (00:38:27): charleston south carolina had an office (00:38:29): Yeah. (00:38:30): Well, see, I have a studio separate. (00:38:32): It's on our property where the house is, but I have a whole separate studio. (00:38:36): So people can come and go out here and not have them in my personal space and all of that. (00:38:40): So the people who've come here, it's only been a handful. (00:38:43): They're people I would have in my house anyway. (00:38:46): You know, they're friends who needed a session. (00:38:48): I'm more than happy to do that here. (00:38:50): But otherwise, like strangers, I would not. (00:38:54): Yeah. (00:38:55): Well, (00:38:55): I've had people, (00:38:56): well, (00:38:56): they weren't strangers because they're well-known people that have homes in La (00:38:59): Quinta. (00:39:02): You know who they are, but I'm not going to tell you who they are. (00:39:05): I'm very close to La Quinta, so that's a nice little that's right there. (00:39:09): So we do get some in-person sessions from that. (00:39:14): I thought about every now and then, (00:39:16): I don't know why it every now and then tickles my head about getting an office (00:39:20): here. (00:39:20): And I thought, no, that's going to make me feel too constrained again. (00:39:23): I still, most of my clients are on Zoom at this point. (00:39:28): I'd rather just still. (00:39:29): Well, (00:39:29): zoom is a, (00:39:30): it's become a very personal space and you're definitely in a vibe like these, (00:39:34): these transmissions that I'm doing. (00:39:37): We're not, (00:39:37): we're broadcasting from this platform and it will be a private link that you can (00:39:43): join, (00:39:44): but you're in the vibe still, (00:39:46): you know, (00:39:46): you're in the space vibrationally and you're in it and you're experiencing it in (00:39:50): real time. (00:39:50): And, (00:39:52): That's the magic of that. (00:39:53): I've done these before and they're fantastic. (00:39:56): And I'm very, very excited to start doing them again. (00:39:58): And I'm just committing bi-weekly starting on the 28th of February, (00:40:02): every other week, (00:40:03): all the way to January 2nd. (00:40:05): And then we'll kind of reassess there if that's working or not. (00:40:07): But that way I'm committed and I'm doing it. (00:40:09): I think we're taking 4th of July off and the week of Christmas off. (00:40:13): Other than that, solid every other week. (00:40:15): I love it. (00:40:16): I love it. (00:40:17): I love it. (00:40:19): That's great. (00:40:19): Well, it's great catching up with you. (00:40:20): I'm glad that you're doing well. (00:40:22): I'm definitely going to get your book and read it. (00:40:24): Thank you. (00:40:24): And everybody else, it's Ghost Light, Andrea St. (00:40:27): Amon, Evidential Psychic Medium. (00:40:29): Yes. (00:40:30): And your book's on Amazon. (00:40:32): Books on Amazon. (00:40:34): If you ever come see me live, you can buy an author copy. (00:40:36): And what's your website? (00:40:39): AndreaSaintAmand.com, but the saint is spelled out. (00:40:41): So it's A-N-D-R-E-A-S-A-I-N-T-A-M-A-N-D.com. (00:40:47): Perfect. (00:40:47): Yeah. (00:40:47): Make sure Steph has that and she'll include it with the show notes. (00:40:50): Awesome. (00:40:51): Always good to catch up with you. (00:40:52): It's so funny how you showed up and we're exactly in the same place. (00:40:55): It's great. (00:40:56): Yeah. (00:40:56): And as always, I had no notes ahead of time. (00:40:59): Nothing. (00:40:59): No, we don't do that. (00:41:00): We just show up and talk. (00:41:01): Hopefully people listen for 40 minutes. (00:41:03): We'll see. (00:41:03): Hopefully. (00:41:04): Thank you. (00:41:05): Thank you so much. (00:41:06): Thank you all for listening. (00:41:07): That's it for today. (00:41:09): Tya is a system of elite emotional mastery. (00:41:13): The work lives at TyaAcademy.com. (00:41:15): That's T-Y-A-Academy.com. (00:41:18): I'll leave it there.