WEBVTT NOTE This file was generated by Descript 00:00:00.789 --> 00:00:06.320 Welcome to the Soul Touched by Dogs Podcast, the show for dog lovers who 00:00:06.340 --> 00:00:12.000 see dogs not as toys or tools, but wise souls worth our respect and care. 00:00:12.580 --> 00:00:14.559 I'm an Herrmann, and I'm your host. 00:00:15.320 --> 00:00:20.560 I talk to poor some humans, people who do great work for dogs and their people. 00:00:21.099 --> 00:00:23.360 So come and join us for today's conversation. 00:00:25.038 --> 00:00:26.568 Anke: Hello and welcome, Lisa. 00:00:26.568 --> 00:00:28.128 I'm super excited to have you here. 00:00:28.548 --> 00:00:30.558 Lisa: Oh, I'm really happy to be here as well. 00:00:30.558 --> 00:00:30.948 Thanks for 00:00:30.948 --> 00:00:31.848 Anke: having me on. 00:00:32.508 --> 00:00:36.018 Oh, I, I just love your accent, so I can't, I can't wait to make you talk. 00:00:38.778 --> 00:00:42.588 So let's just start out, let's just dive right in, you know, let people 00:00:42.588 --> 00:00:46.908 know where in this lovely world based and what's your business with dogs. 00:00:47.618 --> 00:00:50.198 Lisa: Yeah, so I'm based in Ireland. 00:00:50.258 --> 00:00:54.998 I live in a place called Wicklow in the Wicklow Mountains, uh, on a horse farm. 00:00:55.478 --> 00:01:00.188 Uh, so I'm nice and connected to nature, and there's dogs and deers and all sorts. 00:01:00.548 --> 00:01:05.438 Um, and the, the work that I do with dogs is I work as an 00:01:05.438 --> 00:01:08.018 animal healer and communicator. 00:01:08.468 --> 00:01:10.028 So in a nutshell. 00:01:10.078 --> 00:01:16.018 What I do is if a, if a dog has, uh, emotional imbalances or physical 00:01:16.018 --> 00:01:23.728 imbalances, um, spiritual imbalances, uh, I can use different botanicals, uh, that 00:01:23.728 --> 00:01:27.808 the animal would self-select in order to bring themselves back into balance. 00:01:27.808 --> 00:01:32.968 So I'm working with skin issues, you know, gut issues, all the usual kind 00:01:32.968 --> 00:01:37.978 of stuff, and anxiety reactivity, uh, on the lead and all this. 00:01:38.023 --> 00:01:40.573 All this good stuff that goes on with the doggies. 00:01:40.873 --> 00:01:46.093 Um, and you know, by also I suppose having the animal communication side 00:01:46.093 --> 00:01:52.333 to it as well, it adds in a real profound level of, of understanding 00:01:52.333 --> 00:01:56.743 where the animals, the dogs will, will select their own botanicals. 00:01:56.743 --> 00:02:00.073 They'll tell me the direction to take, they'll tell me what their meridians 00:02:00.073 --> 00:02:02.293 are outta balance, they'll tell me what. 00:02:02.553 --> 00:02:07.263 Their guardians need in order to bring themselves back into balance because I 00:02:07.263 --> 00:02:09.303 really look at both ends of the lead. 00:02:09.813 --> 00:02:11.913 You know, I think that's really, really important. 00:02:11.943 --> 00:02:16.473 Um, and especially with dogs, I suppose that are, are quite reactive, 00:02:16.473 --> 00:02:18.513 quite fearful, quite nervous. 00:02:18.633 --> 00:02:22.263 Um, it's always really interesting to dig into that and see if there's 00:02:22.263 --> 00:02:23.913 a mirror going on with the person. 00:02:23.913 --> 00:02:27.453 So it's a very, very deep process, um, that people can 00:02:27.453 --> 00:02:29.943 go on with me if they want to. 00:02:30.603 --> 00:02:31.818 Anke: Wow, that is fascinating. 00:02:32.448 --> 00:02:35.628 Like, you know what really stuck with me is like, oh, they choose their botanicals. 00:02:35.628 --> 00:02:36.678 And that's so true. 00:02:36.738 --> 00:02:40.968 You know, like, I mean, I've seen, I've seen them, you know, my dogs when when 00:02:40.968 --> 00:02:45.168 you kind of like the stomach's a little bit like they see, I often thought like, 00:02:45.168 --> 00:02:47.328 how do they know which plant to pick? 00:02:47.328 --> 00:02:47.628 Right? 00:02:47.988 --> 00:02:49.938 So they're not gonna just grab any plant. 00:02:50.208 --> 00:02:51.978 So that's fascinating. 00:02:52.248 --> 00:02:57.528 Now, I'm obviously curious how you discovered this path for yourself. 00:02:57.648 --> 00:03:00.468 Like when did you notice that? 00:03:02.358 --> 00:03:06.408 Was So you wanted to do, like, were you always sort of intuitive that you could 00:03:06.408 --> 00:03:11.838 kind of feel tune into or something you, and then you know, all the. 00:03:13.248 --> 00:03:15.768 Especially the botanical stuff, like how the heck did you get into that? 00:03:16.368 --> 00:03:16.908 Lisa: Yeah. 00:03:16.908 --> 00:03:21.918 So since I was a little girl, um, I, I wanted to be a vet and when 00:03:21.918 --> 00:03:25.428 I was a toddler the first time mom brought me into a butcher's, I 00:03:25.428 --> 00:03:28.068 screamed and demanded to, to leave. 00:03:28.578 --> 00:03:28.998 All right? 00:03:28.998 --> 00:03:31.038 So I always said I wanna be vegetarian. 00:03:31.038 --> 00:03:33.888 Like, you know, as soon as I realized it was a thing, as I got a bit 00:03:33.888 --> 00:03:39.198 older and I became vegetarian at 12, then, um, so I just had this real. 00:03:39.373 --> 00:03:40.993 Compassion for animals. 00:03:40.993 --> 00:03:44.503 As a young girl, I would bring home sick animals, like sick seagulls. 00:03:44.503 --> 00:03:45.373 Sick pigeons. 00:03:45.763 --> 00:03:51.313 I'd find kittens here and you know, I was really, really locked into the 00:03:51.313 --> 00:03:55.993 animals and, and what I noticed is from a young age as well, that my friends, 00:03:55.993 --> 00:04:00.073 animals in their houses and stuff, say there was a a, an animal that 00:04:00.073 --> 00:04:03.133 didn't like to be picked up, I would just automatically go over and pick. 00:04:03.228 --> 00:04:06.018 The animal up and they'd snuggle and they'd be like, oh my God, that cat 00:04:06.018 --> 00:04:07.998 won't let anyone, you know, touch them. 00:04:08.418 --> 00:04:09.288 And I'm like, yo. 00:04:10.458 --> 00:04:13.428 Um, so I had dogs all my life as well, and. 00:04:14.148 --> 00:04:18.588 Eventually I went and worked in a vet's for two years, um, between the 00:04:18.588 --> 00:04:23.058 age of 16 and 18, just to really get a feel for that world and surgery and 00:04:23.058 --> 00:04:24.498 everything that I used to work in. 00:04:25.008 --> 00:04:29.028 Um, and you know, I, I then, you know, got into vet. 00:04:29.138 --> 00:04:29.678 School. 00:04:30.158 --> 00:04:32.168 Uh, but I decided not to do it. 00:04:32.168 --> 00:04:35.318 I did a science degree, uh, and that helped me get into vet school. 00:04:35.318 --> 00:04:39.668 But then I, I, I backtracked in the end because the fees were astronomical. 00:04:40.178 --> 00:04:43.178 And I just thought to myself, do I wanna get collared with this debt? 00:04:43.178 --> 00:04:46.328 But I, I, I feel that there was something deeper inside me 00:04:46.328 --> 00:04:50.678 probably, that I didn't realize was guiding me down a different path. 00:04:51.098 --> 00:04:55.898 Um, so I, I, uh, I worked in the pharmaceutical industry for about 00:04:55.898 --> 00:04:58.928 seven years, which gave me a real understanding of the drugs. 00:04:59.183 --> 00:05:03.563 Which is really, really valuable now, uh, for working with all animals. 00:05:03.623 --> 00:05:07.673 Um, and then I lost the fear of all the white coats 'cause I was working 00:05:07.673 --> 00:05:09.593 with doctors all day, every day. 00:05:09.953 --> 00:05:12.863 Um, and then I started to meditate. 00:05:12.983 --> 00:05:17.273 And when I started to meditate I realized it was time to, to jump ship. 00:05:17.783 --> 00:05:23.288 And then I started to do deep, deep practices over many years and I woke up. 00:05:23.608 --> 00:05:27.538 Even more this intuition that was always in me for animals. 00:05:27.928 --> 00:05:32.068 And I started then to really understand that I could hear them 00:05:32.068 --> 00:05:35.488 on a much more profound level and pick up what's going on for them. 00:05:35.548 --> 00:05:39.928 And I did a professional training then in, uh, animal communication 00:05:39.928 --> 00:05:41.758 over a period of two years. 00:05:42.238 --> 00:05:46.708 Um, and then I started to study botanicals. 00:05:46.738 --> 00:05:47.128 Okay. 00:05:47.158 --> 00:05:50.638 'cause I realized when I was doing the animal communication on its own. 00:05:51.318 --> 00:05:52.128 It wasn't enough. 00:05:52.128 --> 00:05:53.568 The animals are saying This is wrong. 00:05:53.568 --> 00:05:55.728 And I'm like, well, well now I wanna help you with that. 00:05:56.118 --> 00:05:58.218 Uh, so that's where the botanicals came in. 00:05:58.218 --> 00:06:04.038 So I studied flower essences and then I studied, um, zoo pharmac cocy, which is 00:06:04.038 --> 00:06:09.648 animals that know how to self-medicate, and that's where I, I brought in herbs 00:06:09.648 --> 00:06:15.198 and diluted essential oils, hydrosols, and yeah, lots of different things. 00:06:15.198 --> 00:06:15.528 So. 00:06:15.873 --> 00:06:17.223 So now I work remotely. 00:06:17.223 --> 00:06:18.273 I do it all remotely. 00:06:18.273 --> 00:06:22.323 So I've got animal clients all over the world and it's, yeah, it's been a 00:06:22.323 --> 00:06:27.033 profound journey and, and I, it's kind of circled back really because now I'm at 00:06:27.033 --> 00:06:31.273 a place in my career where I collaborate with holistic vets, both in the United. 00:06:31.388 --> 00:06:33.818 States and in Ireland all the time. 00:06:33.818 --> 00:06:36.188 My, a lot of my closest friends are holistic vets. 00:06:36.218 --> 00:06:38.498 We just got to know each other to the animals. 00:06:38.828 --> 00:06:43.568 So now I, I feel like where they end, I begin and where I end, they begin. 00:06:43.568 --> 00:06:44.498 So it becomes this. 00:06:44.498 --> 00:06:45.788 Some animals need both. 00:06:46.088 --> 00:06:48.338 You know, you've got a very seriously sick animal. 00:06:48.728 --> 00:06:53.408 Um, it just becomes this fusion, you know, where the sum is, is greater. 00:06:53.438 --> 00:06:56.048 The hole is greater than some of the parts as they say. 00:06:56.048 --> 00:06:56.408 And. 00:06:57.388 --> 00:07:00.718 It's been, it's been an amazing journey and it's just getting deeper. 00:07:02.158 --> 00:07:02.578 Yeah, that 00:07:02.578 --> 00:07:04.468 Anke: sounds, that sounds wonderful. 00:07:04.468 --> 00:07:08.158 And I love the depth of it and the compassion in it and Yeah. 00:07:08.158 --> 00:07:11.278 And, and there is also so much to learn, so I can totally see, I mean, 00:07:11.278 --> 00:07:14.908 I've had like holistic bets on the show and you know, it's like, yeah, 00:07:14.908 --> 00:07:18.148 there is so much to learn, like nobody can do all of it, right. 00:07:18.148 --> 00:07:18.568 So. 00:07:19.128 --> 00:07:21.258 Exactly makes, that makes perfect sense. 00:07:21.618 --> 00:07:26.508 So what do clients, is there something specific that you find, uh, like 00:07:26.508 --> 00:07:29.568 patterns where you think like, this is what people seek you out for 00:07:30.228 --> 00:07:30.498 Lisa: more 00:07:30.498 --> 00:07:31.218 Anke: than others? 00:07:32.148 --> 00:07:34.098 Lisa: So, yeah, absolutely. 00:07:34.188 --> 00:07:41.238 Um, I, I end up, I suppose, working with a lot of, um, animals, dogs that are, you 00:07:41.238 --> 00:07:43.398 know, really outta balance emotionally. 00:07:43.403 --> 00:07:46.758 I, I, I feel like I want, I feel like I need to talk about that, that side. 00:07:46.758 --> 00:07:49.038 Like I work in so many different ways, but that seems to be 00:07:49.038 --> 00:07:51.228 coming true today, where, um. 00:07:51.943 --> 00:07:54.463 You know, we have a reactive dog, for example. 00:07:54.523 --> 00:07:57.613 Uh, or just not even the word reactive, just an outta balance 00:07:57.613 --> 00:07:59.323 dog, a misunderstood dog. 00:07:59.833 --> 00:08:05.233 And sometimes, um, what can happen is we, we may use a cookie cutter 00:08:05.233 --> 00:08:11.323 approach, um, and try and address issues with animals to, to a certain funnel. 00:08:11.803 --> 00:08:16.273 And what I, what I recognize is that one of the things that I apply 00:08:16.273 --> 00:08:18.943 in my work, um, is five elements. 00:08:18.943 --> 00:08:19.903 Chinese Medicine. 00:08:20.693 --> 00:08:25.643 And I, uh, that, that teaches you how there's different characteristic, 00:08:25.643 --> 00:08:27.083 different personality types. 00:08:27.083 --> 00:08:28.343 It's not set in stone. 00:08:28.343 --> 00:08:30.893 There's, it's a very, very deep ancient practice. 00:08:31.463 --> 00:08:35.363 But I wanna give you an example of, of one animal I, one dog that I 00:08:35.363 --> 00:08:37.083 was working on yesterday that, um. 00:08:38.658 --> 00:08:42.408 From the get go out of the litter, it, it was a, it was a good breeder, right? 00:08:42.408 --> 00:08:45.738 But outta the litter, um, the dogs were being trained to see if 00:08:45.738 --> 00:08:47.508 they could be te therapy animals. 00:08:47.868 --> 00:08:52.308 And this little darling, uh, was, was put into his first home and he became so 00:08:52.308 --> 00:08:54.558 scared and so frightened he was sent back. 00:08:55.098 --> 00:08:56.238 Unsuitable, really. 00:08:56.598 --> 00:08:59.058 And he really lost his nerve at that point. 00:08:59.478 --> 00:09:03.528 And then he, he ended up finding a very, very, very loving family. 00:09:03.918 --> 00:09:08.688 Uh, but he was a very nervous, uh, dog and on the lead, hard to manage, uh, 00:09:08.718 --> 00:09:10.878 would get triggered by different things. 00:09:10.878 --> 00:09:15.768 Sounds, fireworks, bicycles, skateboards, male dogs, all, 00:09:15.768 --> 00:09:17.028 you know, these kind of things. 00:09:17.043 --> 00:09:17.263 And. 00:09:18.378 --> 00:09:22.878 Um, they, they, they worked on 'em with all their love in their hearts, um, over 00:09:22.878 --> 00:09:28.428 about four year period trying to train the dog and expose him to the triggers. 00:09:28.488 --> 00:09:30.408 And, you know, they're so courageous. 00:09:30.408 --> 00:09:34.998 They realize then that this wasn't working and, and straight away for me. 00:09:35.198 --> 00:09:38.138 When I heard his story and when I went deeper into his case, I could 00:09:38.138 --> 00:09:43.178 see what we call, he is what we call a water element in Chinese medicine, 00:09:43.178 --> 00:09:44.858 a water element constitution. 00:09:44.858 --> 00:09:47.528 So these animals are naturally nervous. 00:09:47.648 --> 00:09:50.768 Uh, they're key organs are the kidneys and the bladder. 00:09:50.768 --> 00:09:54.973 So they'll usually have issues in those areas and, and they're the organs of fear. 00:09:56.048 --> 00:09:58.838 And these are the animals that, because the kidneys rule the health 00:09:58.838 --> 00:10:02.618 of the ears, they're, they can be highly reactive to noises, right? 00:10:02.618 --> 00:10:05.588 So any of your animals at this time of year, I dunno when this is gonna be 00:10:05.588 --> 00:10:07.268 published, but it's Halloween, right? 00:10:07.568 --> 00:10:09.788 So there's so many fireworks going off. 00:10:09.848 --> 00:10:14.528 So these fearful animals that are sensitive to noises would be the 00:10:14.528 --> 00:10:18.548 ones triggered the most by all those things that dog was triggered. 00:10:19.028 --> 00:10:21.473 Um, so he needed internal healing. 00:10:22.373 --> 00:10:26.993 Right internal work to rebalance him, to make him more resilient and often 00:10:27.593 --> 00:10:29.333 a bit of a softer approach as well. 00:10:29.333 --> 00:10:32.333 'cause he is a city dog, so they bring him to the country for walks 00:10:32.333 --> 00:10:36.863 and so it's about really understanding who the dog is as an individual. 00:10:36.863 --> 00:10:37.943 That's how I work. 00:10:38.273 --> 00:10:42.953 I try and see who they are now, who they were before and who do we see they 00:10:43.043 --> 00:10:45.683 become because water elements are also. 00:10:45.863 --> 00:10:48.353 Very, uh, adventurous, very driven. 00:10:48.593 --> 00:10:52.193 When they're balanced, they're very calm, peaceful, and they've got a lot of wisdom. 00:10:52.553 --> 00:10:54.443 The wisdom comes from that kidney energy. 00:10:54.743 --> 00:10:59.003 So it's about helping the animal, the dog, transform into their better selves. 00:10:59.453 --> 00:11:00.923 Um, so yeah, that's, 00:11:01.043 --> 00:11:01.673 Anke: I love that. 00:11:02.003 --> 00:11:06.028 I like, I'm nodding along here because, um, you know, I've had 00:11:06.028 --> 00:11:09.083 a guest once who she was talking about the five Chinese elements. 00:11:09.263 --> 00:11:09.383 Mm-hmm. 00:11:09.413 --> 00:11:11.543 And so she was sort of cutting it out and I'm like, yeah. 00:11:11.608 --> 00:11:15.898 My little Kay who passed last year, he was a water dog classic case, 00:11:16.078 --> 00:11:20.008 like totally classic case, you know, like super noise sensitive. 00:11:20.068 --> 00:11:26.908 And he did really well when I moved to this quieter environment, you know, out of 00:11:26.908 --> 00:11:31.348 a city has where I thought a poor soul had always information overload 24 7, right? 00:11:31.978 --> 00:11:35.698 And so when, when I brought him into this quieter space, 00:11:35.938 --> 00:11:37.018 he was a whole different dog. 00:11:37.593 --> 00:11:41.883 You know, and that whole wisdom came out and, you know, and then all of a sudden 00:11:41.883 --> 00:11:46.023 he wasn't pulling on the lead and he was friendly with other dogs and, you 00:11:46.023 --> 00:11:48.183 know, and I didn't train anything, right. 00:11:48.183 --> 00:11:53.373 So I just allowed him to, you know, to settle, to calm and, and have 00:11:53.373 --> 00:11:54.993 that environment that suited him. 00:11:54.993 --> 00:11:58.833 So I like, I love that you brought just out of all the different types, you 00:11:58.833 --> 00:12:00.813 know, that that was the example because. 00:12:01.078 --> 00:12:05.038 I think the thing is, I think especially those dogs, they can easily 00:12:05.038 --> 00:12:07.198 be seen as a difficult dog, right? 00:12:07.198 --> 00:12:07.258 Yeah. 00:12:07.528 --> 00:12:11.158 Because if you don't know what's underneath, it's um, 00:12:11.578 --> 00:12:13.258 it's easy to misunderstand. 00:12:13.408 --> 00:12:16.618 So how would people, like, what is it that people come to you for? 00:12:16.648 --> 00:12:20.788 'cause like, you know that Yeah, that dog's just misunderstood. 00:12:20.788 --> 00:12:23.218 That's not usually what people reach out for. 00:12:23.218 --> 00:12:26.698 Is it when they've tried all kind of things and nothing's worked? 00:12:26.698 --> 00:12:29.788 Or, or what are sort of the, the, what are they? 00:12:30.528 --> 00:12:32.058 Saying to you that they want 00:12:33.048 --> 00:12:34.368 Lisa: Yeah, you're, you're right. 00:12:34.368 --> 00:12:38.028 It's usually, you know, people find me when they've tried all the usual avenues, 00:12:38.058 --> 00:12:41.748 unless they know me, or, or unless they're really holistically minded and 00:12:41.748 --> 00:12:46.428 they fir, you know, um, or they've been recommended by word of mouth as well. 00:12:46.428 --> 00:12:47.928 But usually it's. 00:12:47.943 --> 00:12:51.243 It's, they've tried all the usual avenues and, and it just hasn't worked. 00:12:51.243 --> 00:12:54.603 It's just come, it's just come into kind of like a bit of, a bit of a cul-de-sac. 00:12:54.633 --> 00:12:58.413 And then you see, and, and I'm talking about physical or 00:12:58.413 --> 00:13:00.243 emotional or mental stuff here. 00:13:00.273 --> 00:13:00.723 Right? 00:13:00.723 --> 00:13:04.083 And, and the challenge that that gives me then is that. 00:13:04.713 --> 00:13:07.263 People then think, well, I'll just try this. 00:13:07.593 --> 00:13:11.913 Uh, you know, uh, and then I, but the thing about it is what I say to 00:13:11.913 --> 00:13:15.423 people is like, okay, you've tried this, that, and, and the other, but 00:13:15.453 --> 00:13:20.823 have you asked the dog, have you asked the dog what it is they need to heal? 00:13:21.183 --> 00:13:22.383 And have you looked at. 00:13:22.623 --> 00:13:25.113 What is the dog possibly mirroring to you? 00:13:25.143 --> 00:13:29.463 If we look at ourselves and have that level of cur courage for 00:13:29.463 --> 00:13:33.633 self-reflection, and we're willing to look at our imbalances and take 00:13:33.633 --> 00:13:38.913 action on them, it frees the animal, the dog up from mirroring them, us. 00:13:38.943 --> 00:13:43.083 They do it to all of us, like, um, and, and then you can get results 00:13:43.143 --> 00:13:46.233 where results were not possible before. 00:13:46.233 --> 00:13:50.343 So I, I do feel that there's a divine timing to when people find me. 00:13:50.893 --> 00:13:54.553 Uh, and, and I know that the animals know who I am. 00:13:54.583 --> 00:13:56.053 They know what I can do. 00:13:56.413 --> 00:13:58.333 Uh, they know what skills I have. 00:13:58.333 --> 00:14:01.903 So they, they, it's funny, they, they kind of like, I, I, I joke 00:14:01.903 --> 00:14:03.703 they become a bit like my sales rep. 00:14:03.703 --> 00:14:06.793 Like say for example, I'm on a discovery call, right? 00:14:07.033 --> 00:14:09.913 And the person's there, and the dog's there, and sure, like, you 00:14:09.913 --> 00:14:12.643 know, I remember there was one little doggy, a little dash hound. 00:14:13.398 --> 00:14:17.838 And this dog, you had a lot of issues going on behaviorally as well, and in 00:14:17.838 --> 00:14:23.628 the call the dog climbs up into the arms of the man and just snuggles in. 00:14:23.628 --> 00:14:27.198 When I was talking about the human to animal mirroring and they were like, 00:14:27.258 --> 00:14:29.988 you know, he never ever does this. 00:14:30.318 --> 00:14:33.078 And I'm like, yeah, they always do something on the discovery 00:14:33.078 --> 00:14:35.688 call out of behavior to show. 00:14:36.408 --> 00:14:37.398 Listen to Lisa. 00:14:38.433 --> 00:14:39.093 Anke: Oh, I love that. 00:14:39.413 --> 00:14:39.533 Yeah. 00:14:39.713 --> 00:14:42.053 So you've got it's amazing little army of reps running around. 00:14:42.123 --> 00:14:42.413 Yeah, 00:14:43.158 --> 00:14:44.118 Lisa: I totally do. 00:14:44.118 --> 00:14:44.448 Like, 00:14:45.313 --> 00:14:46.133 Anke: oh, that is funny. 00:14:46.643 --> 00:14:46.933 Yeah. 00:14:47.433 --> 00:14:49.878 So what's like, do you have an example? 00:14:49.878 --> 00:14:55.188 You know, because, um, the whole, like, we all know how much 00:14:55.188 --> 00:14:57.918 in tune our dogs are with us. 00:14:57.978 --> 00:15:02.808 Like we don't often kind of know how this works both ways, right? 00:15:02.813 --> 00:15:03.173 Mm-hmm. 00:15:04.158 --> 00:15:09.258 Do you have an example of, you know, where like a kind of a trait or an 00:15:09.258 --> 00:15:14.658 imbalance was mirrored and one once that kind of, once you could see that 00:15:14.658 --> 00:15:16.308 through, they could see through that. 00:15:16.308 --> 00:15:19.188 Like things all, like what, what would be an example of something 00:15:19.188 --> 00:15:21.108 your dog could mirror and take on? 00:15:21.108 --> 00:15:21.198 Hmm. 00:15:21.318 --> 00:15:21.798 Um. 00:15:23.943 --> 00:15:26.133 Lisa: So I, I wanna talk about grief. 00:15:26.313 --> 00:15:30.423 Um, I think there's a, there's a lot of grief in the world at this point in 00:15:30.423 --> 00:15:34.743 time and a lot of unresolved grief, um, especially after what the world went 00:15:34.743 --> 00:15:38.733 through during the, the whole lockdown thing and the whole pandemic thing. 00:15:38.733 --> 00:15:41.043 I think there's a lot of unresolved stuff there. 00:15:41.043 --> 00:15:45.363 And there's this new terminology, it's called pandemic puppies. 00:15:45.813 --> 00:15:46.653 Oh, okay. 00:15:46.713 --> 00:15:47.163 Yeah. 00:15:47.163 --> 00:15:49.143 Which, which, you know, it's like. 00:15:49.848 --> 00:15:53.718 For me that the animals that were born at that time literally 00:15:53.718 --> 00:15:56.148 mirrored our psychosis at that time. 00:15:56.178 --> 00:15:56.688 Okay. 00:15:56.688 --> 00:16:01.008 And whichever side of the fence you were on of that conversation. 00:16:01.248 --> 00:16:02.628 It's still the same to me. 00:16:02.628 --> 00:16:03.948 Like everybody was nervous. 00:16:03.948 --> 00:16:06.828 They were just expressing their nervousness in a different way. 00:16:07.278 --> 00:16:11.598 Um, and you know, these pandemic puppies that came along, then a lot of 00:16:11.598 --> 00:16:13.578 them have massive behavioral issues. 00:16:13.578 --> 00:16:15.948 And one of my friends is, um. 00:16:16.173 --> 00:16:20.523 Um, a doggy minder and, uh, so she can see the difference. 00:16:20.523 --> 00:16:21.873 You know, she sees it on mass. 00:16:21.873 --> 00:16:25.143 It's, it's really, it's like, it's like a, an open experiment in a way. 00:16:25.143 --> 00:16:27.093 The conversations we have around that. 00:16:27.603 --> 00:16:31.653 Um, so often when I, when people approach me to work with their 00:16:31.653 --> 00:16:34.563 dogs around that, um, that issue. 00:16:34.953 --> 00:16:40.083 I'll say to them, like, how were you during the time of the pandemic? 00:16:40.083 --> 00:16:42.183 Like, what was going on in your mind? 00:16:42.183 --> 00:16:48.213 And, and I, um, one example, one really clear example is when it all, before it 00:16:48.213 --> 00:16:53.883 all kicked off, I'd say on average I would do a reading for a reactive dog on the 00:16:53.913 --> 00:16:56.253 lead maybe once every two weeks, right? 00:16:56.313 --> 00:16:57.213 More or less. 00:16:58.943 --> 00:17:03.983 Um, and then as you're in Spain, um, and then, um, what happened then was 00:17:03.983 --> 00:17:08.063 when, when that pandemic kicked in, I was doing an average three a week. 00:17:09.273 --> 00:17:09.783 Alright. 00:17:09.963 --> 00:17:14.193 And that's when I really, really, really had to double down on the human 00:17:14.193 --> 00:17:16.083 to animal mirror in which I just love. 00:17:16.443 --> 00:17:19.203 Um, and I, I had open frank conversations. 00:17:19.203 --> 00:17:20.163 It was usually women. 00:17:20.553 --> 00:17:23.073 Um, and I'm saying, are you, are you afraid? 00:17:23.073 --> 00:17:25.593 Are you afraid when you're walking the dog? 00:17:25.623 --> 00:17:28.388 Are you afraid walking alone in wooded areas are. 00:17:28.733 --> 00:17:32.783 If you've your dog's reacting to men, are you afraid of men? 00:17:33.083 --> 00:17:35.573 Has something happened to you in the past where there's sub 00:17:35.603 --> 00:17:37.613 something subconsciously going on? 00:17:38.153 --> 00:17:42.833 Um, and nine times outta 10, the, the women are so brave and, and they'll 00:17:42.833 --> 00:17:47.663 face it, you know, and we'll, we'll then the dog then selects flower essences, 00:17:47.663 --> 00:17:51.863 not only for themselves, but also ones, they make up ones for their person. 00:17:52.553 --> 00:17:56.003 Um, and the, the accuracy of that mix, when I share it with 00:17:56.003 --> 00:17:57.143 the people, they're just like. 00:17:57.873 --> 00:18:04.053 How does the dog know the nuances of my thought processes, my emotion processes? 00:18:04.053 --> 00:18:08.283 I'm like, well, they're picking it up every, every second of every day. 00:18:08.643 --> 00:18:10.173 They're reading you like a book. 00:18:10.473 --> 00:18:13.713 So then you have this kind of, this healing feedback loop. 00:18:13.713 --> 00:18:16.983 Instead of the, the fear, you switch it into a healing feedback loop. 00:18:16.983 --> 00:18:21.603 The the dog knows the healing is going back up the lead, and then they start 00:18:21.603 --> 00:18:25.413 to relax and then they start to, you know, walks start to become easier. 00:18:25.413 --> 00:18:25.678 The women. 00:18:26.123 --> 00:18:28.523 You know, they feel more comfortable in their own skin. 00:18:28.523 --> 00:18:33.143 So that's a massive, massive theme I've seen over the years that really, 00:18:33.143 --> 00:18:34.883 really escalated at that time. 00:18:34.883 --> 00:18:35.603 So yeah, 00:18:35.693 --> 00:18:37.133 Anke: that makes so much sense. 00:18:37.133 --> 00:18:37.433 You know? 00:18:37.433 --> 00:18:37.823 Yeah. 00:18:37.823 --> 00:18:40.883 It's, it's also something that's kind of so visible, like that nervousness 00:18:40.883 --> 00:18:45.863 and Yeah, that's, I'm still tagged, totally fascinated by, you know, how 00:18:45.863 --> 00:18:47.993 the dogs, I mean, you, I could even. 00:18:48.948 --> 00:18:52.158 Well, you kind of see that they, when they're out and they, you know, like 00:18:52.158 --> 00:18:55.668 that they pick that they know what plants to pick, but I had no idea 00:18:55.668 --> 00:18:59.688 that they would even know how to pick the right thing for their person. 00:19:00.048 --> 00:19:00.408 Lisa: Mm. 00:19:00.618 --> 00:19:02.718 Well, yeah, that's something I've developed. 00:19:02.808 --> 00:19:06.948 Um, you know, 'cause when I, when I was trained in the Zoo Cog, it 00:19:06.948 --> 00:19:10.518 was really just about the animals self-selecting for themselves. 00:19:10.848 --> 00:19:14.418 Um, but then I just went, I just went on a roll with it and 00:19:14.418 --> 00:19:15.738 I just said, let me try this. 00:19:16.428 --> 00:19:22.098 I've studied like different methods of, of, um, selecting flower essences 00:19:22.098 --> 00:19:26.538 in a specific way that actually tells a very clear emotional picture. 00:19:26.928 --> 00:19:30.888 Um, it's something I learned from a gentleman called Tony Pinko, who works 00:19:30.888 --> 00:19:34.098 at Ainsworth Homeopathic Pharmacy in London, giving him a shout out 00:19:34.098 --> 00:19:35.478 'cause he's absolutely amazing. 00:19:35.928 --> 00:19:40.488 Um, and he te he teaches that for people to self-select for themselves. 00:19:41.303 --> 00:19:44.873 But I just, I just went and I just said, I'm gonna go on a roll with 00:19:44.873 --> 00:19:49.703 this and I'm gonna ask the animals to do it for their, for their person. 00:19:50.153 --> 00:19:52.763 Um, and sometimes they'll share it with the person. 00:19:52.763 --> 00:19:54.593 They'll share the essence, mix with the person. 00:19:54.593 --> 00:19:56.633 Sometimes they'll just have it for themselves and then a 00:19:56.633 --> 00:19:57.983 separate one for their person. 00:19:58.283 --> 00:20:01.583 And sometimes they'll ask, they'll also do one for the entire family. 00:20:01.583 --> 00:20:04.583 If there's something going on in the household where you do what 00:20:04.583 --> 00:20:06.383 we call the bow method where. 00:20:06.768 --> 00:20:10.428 You put the flower essences mixed at the animal, the dog is selected in 00:20:10.428 --> 00:20:14.478 different bowls around the house, and it absorbs all the emotions into the 00:20:14.478 --> 00:20:18.198 bowl, and then you tip it into the earth, you know, and it's just, you 00:20:18.198 --> 00:20:24.168 can absolutely transform households because the dog knows everything. 00:20:24.258 --> 00:20:24.288 I 00:20:24.948 --> 00:20:25.278 Anke: know. 00:20:25.278 --> 00:20:26.058 It's fascinating. 00:20:26.283 --> 00:20:29.418 So, so what does, like, how does one have to picture that? 00:20:29.658 --> 00:20:31.038 So like, how does the dog. 00:20:31.333 --> 00:20:33.823 Choose, like, do you kind of like Yeah. 00:20:33.823 --> 00:20:37.333 Have a bunch of bowls and they kind of stick their nose into one that they like? 00:20:37.333 --> 00:20:39.433 Or like what the, what does choosing look like? 00:20:39.613 --> 00:20:40.243 Lisa: Yeah, sure. 00:20:40.243 --> 00:20:41.323 That's a really good question. 00:20:41.323 --> 00:20:42.823 So I work remotely, right? 00:20:42.823 --> 00:20:44.263 So I work from photographs. 00:20:44.353 --> 00:20:46.333 Um, so I'll have photos of the dog. 00:20:46.363 --> 00:20:50.593 So what I do is I have, I have a pendulum and then I have list. 00:20:50.608 --> 00:20:54.748 That I've created of the different essences, right? 00:20:54.748 --> 00:20:58.738 And I, I, I say to the dog, basically, you take over the pendulum. 00:20:59.218 --> 00:21:04.738 Um, and I have enough stillness in myself at this point in my life to trust. 00:21:05.133 --> 00:21:09.268 You know, um, and, and then, so then they'll just go, beep, beep, beep, 00:21:09.273 --> 00:21:11.913 you know, and they'll pick, they'll, first of all, they'll pick the process 00:21:11.913 --> 00:21:15.303 we're going to use, and then when they pick the process, then we go 00:21:15.303 --> 00:21:18.753 to the list in the way that it needs to be gone to, or a specific list. 00:21:19.173 --> 00:21:23.403 And then I just make up, make it up, and I, I post it to people, but I also send 00:21:23.403 --> 00:21:26.883 them a little paragraph and I'm saying, okay, so they selected this essence 00:21:27.273 --> 00:21:28.773 because this is probably going on. 00:21:28.773 --> 00:21:31.473 Because actually you might be thinking this, which may lead to this. 00:21:31.713 --> 00:21:32.553 So that. 00:21:33.063 --> 00:21:34.593 Is what blows people's minds. 00:21:34.593 --> 00:21:39.543 They're like, that's what I've been thinking the last, you know, month 00:21:39.543 --> 00:21:40.983 and I can't get outta my head. 00:21:40.983 --> 00:21:44.223 And I'm like, yeah, the dog knows. 00:21:46.023 --> 00:21:46.393 I love that. 00:21:46.393 --> 00:21:46.893 I love because I think 00:21:46.893 --> 00:21:49.413 Anke: it's, it's, we so often underestimate. 00:21:49.803 --> 00:21:50.643 Dogs, right? 00:21:50.643 --> 00:21:50.703 Yeah. 00:21:50.703 --> 00:21:53.673 I think that's like, for me, that's one of the reason I even started this. 00:21:53.673 --> 00:21:57.813 'cause I always feel, you know, just looking at them as a toy for the, for 00:21:57.813 --> 00:22:02.313 the kids and a tool to find people or like support, you know, it's like 00:22:02.883 --> 00:22:05.868 looking at them as toys or tools is just not giving them justice. 00:22:06.738 --> 00:22:11.028 You know, like there's so much more that they, they have going for them, you know? 00:22:11.028 --> 00:22:14.748 Oh, I, and it doesn't always have to be for the benefit of a person, right? 00:22:15.378 --> 00:22:15.798 Mm-hmm. 00:22:16.818 --> 00:22:20.118 Lisa: Yeah, because they, they're, they're their own sentient beings. 00:22:20.118 --> 00:22:21.438 They have their own life purpose. 00:22:21.438 --> 00:22:23.628 They have their own soul wishes. 00:22:23.628 --> 00:22:27.363 And, you know, it's like, so how, 00:22:27.463 --> 00:22:28.083 Anke: in your case. 00:22:28.878 --> 00:22:35.448 You know, like, um, what does, like how do you, when, you know, when, when you 00:22:35.448 --> 00:22:41.118 communicate, when you kind of tune into to a dog or animal, like for you personally, 00:22:41.118 --> 00:22:42.858 how do you receive the message? 00:22:42.858 --> 00:22:45.798 Because I know that like sometimes people will feel it in their bodies, 00:22:45.798 --> 00:22:49.293 sometimes hear people things, see things like, how does it show up for you? 00:22:50.073 --> 00:22:54.183 Lisa: For me, mostly I'm Claire audience, so I hear their voices. 00:22:54.483 --> 00:22:54.633 Mm-hmm. 00:22:54.843 --> 00:23:00.753 Um, they, they sometimes will flash, uh, DVDs into my mind if they want me to see 00:23:00.753 --> 00:23:02.643 something that's been going on for them. 00:23:03.033 --> 00:23:06.753 Um, I can, if I look at their photo, I can feel their sadness. 00:23:06.753 --> 00:23:09.123 I can feel their fear, what, whatever it is. 00:23:09.123 --> 00:23:12.783 So there's a combination of different things that come true for me and. 00:23:13.238 --> 00:23:16.838 The type of animal communication that has always just been my go-to. 00:23:16.838 --> 00:23:21.518 It's not something that I ask, or I, I directed it towards is really 00:23:21.518 --> 00:23:23.888 like it's real soul level stuff. 00:23:23.888 --> 00:23:25.508 Like, it's real profound. 00:23:25.508 --> 00:23:29.978 So I do individual animal communication sessions and, and 00:23:29.978 --> 00:23:33.728 it's like people within the first five minutes are usually in tears. 00:23:34.218 --> 00:23:38.328 Um, because the, the first thing we start off with is what are the 00:23:38.388 --> 00:23:42.078 three key things your dog wants you to know now for you as a person? 00:23:42.828 --> 00:23:44.778 Um, and the accuracy of that. 00:23:44.778 --> 00:23:47.928 Like, because it just, it just taps into the heart energy 00:23:47.928 --> 00:23:49.128 and they're like, oh my God. 00:23:49.368 --> 00:23:51.768 You know, again, it's one of those moments, how does the dog 00:23:51.768 --> 00:23:53.568 know that that's going on for me? 00:23:53.568 --> 00:23:55.848 So real life shifts life. 00:23:55.993 --> 00:23:56.503 Stuff. 00:23:56.803 --> 00:23:59.713 And then when we go to the, uh, to the dog and I say, well, what 00:23:59.713 --> 00:24:01.153 do you want outta this session? 00:24:01.153 --> 00:24:01.963 What do you need? 00:24:01.963 --> 00:24:03.793 And they might say, oh, my hips are bad. 00:24:03.793 --> 00:24:05.353 Or, you know, my tooth is bad. 00:24:05.353 --> 00:24:08.593 One dog, he recently had a bad tooth, but he can't go to the, to 00:24:08.593 --> 00:24:10.693 the vet 'cause he gets really scared. 00:24:10.693 --> 00:24:12.883 And, and now they're like, then they brought him to the vet and 00:24:12.883 --> 00:24:14.323 sure enough he has a rotten tooth. 00:24:14.353 --> 00:24:16.843 So, you know, that kind of stuff will come true. 00:24:16.843 --> 00:24:16.903 Um. 00:24:18.408 --> 00:24:22.368 But yeah, it'll come to, I, I usually write furiously, I write everything 00:24:22.368 --> 00:24:27.768 down furiously when I'm doing that work, because when I hear it, it, it's not mine. 00:24:27.858 --> 00:24:28.998 It's channeling to me. 00:24:28.998 --> 00:24:31.848 So I write it down because I'll forget, like, people go, do you 00:24:31.848 --> 00:24:33.018 remember in the last session? 00:24:33.018 --> 00:24:34.968 I'm like, don't ask me to remember. 00:24:36.498 --> 00:24:38.118 It's not my information, you know. 00:24:38.988 --> 00:24:39.438 Yeah, 00:24:40.788 --> 00:24:42.558 Anke: I mean, that, that is so that's funny. 00:24:42.558 --> 00:24:47.298 And it's like I've experienced that, um, especially when I first did coach training 00:24:47.298 --> 00:24:50.418 and the type of coach training I did was like very spiritual, like very deep. 00:24:50.718 --> 00:24:54.858 And it's almost like the more in the moment, the more present I am, 00:24:54.858 --> 00:24:56.628 the more connected I feel like. 00:24:57.993 --> 00:24:58.503 Don't ask me. 00:24:58.548 --> 00:24:59.793 I, I don't dunno what we talked about. 00:24:59.798 --> 00:24:59.828 Yeah. 00:24:59.828 --> 00:25:00.868 Like, I literally dunno. 00:25:00.868 --> 00:25:01.108 Right. 00:25:01.348 --> 00:25:05.043 So yeah, I kind of like it, it makes sense to me, but it is kind of weird. 00:25:05.043 --> 00:25:06.723 It's kind of can freak you out a little bit. 00:25:07.298 --> 00:25:07.588 Yeah. 00:25:09.098 --> 00:25:09.388 Yeah. 00:25:10.713 --> 00:25:12.903 So do you work like you work with dogs? 00:25:13.143 --> 00:25:14.523 What, you know, other animals? 00:25:14.523 --> 00:25:16.228 Like what, what other animals are? 00:25:17.508 --> 00:25:18.498 Maybe horses. 00:25:18.498 --> 00:25:20.328 I mean, they are like, really, you know? 00:25:20.358 --> 00:25:20.418 Yeah. 00:25:20.508 --> 00:25:23.448 So what's your, what are the kind of animals you work 00:25:23.448 --> 00:25:24.858 with and who's your favorite? 00:25:25.548 --> 00:25:25.968 Lisa: Yeah. 00:25:25.968 --> 00:25:26.513 So I work 00:25:26.513 --> 00:25:27.233 Anke: have to say dog. 00:25:27.903 --> 00:25:28.673 Lisa: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:25:29.028 --> 00:25:33.468 I, I work, I, I work with cats and dogs at the moment, obviously for the 00:25:33.468 --> 00:25:37.158 animal communication, like in terms of physical and emotional healing. 00:25:37.578 --> 00:25:41.478 I work mostly with cats and dogs 'cause that's what most people come to me for. 00:25:41.748 --> 00:25:44.508 Um, I did do an animal communication session. 00:25:45.163 --> 00:25:49.483 Recently with some ravens, some old long-term clients that are two ravens 00:25:49.483 --> 00:25:50.923 of mine that live in, in the state. 00:25:50.923 --> 00:25:54.313 So the animal communication, I do that with any kind of animal. 00:25:54.583 --> 00:25:58.213 But then the deeper healing stuff with the botanicals is usually dogs and cats. 00:25:58.603 --> 00:26:04.963 Um, I have a large body of experience of working with horses, um, and going down to 00:26:04.963 --> 00:26:07.123 the stables and working with a range of. 00:26:07.203 --> 00:26:08.463 Physical stuff going on. 00:26:08.463 --> 00:26:11.673 I absolutely love horses and emotional stuff as well. 00:26:11.973 --> 00:26:15.153 Um, but it's just not, it's not a focus for me at the moment. 00:26:15.153 --> 00:26:16.803 At the moment it's the dogs and the cats. 00:26:16.833 --> 00:26:18.783 'cause I'm doing most of my work remotely. 00:26:18.783 --> 00:26:23.043 Whereas I just feel with horses you really need to show up in the stables. 00:26:23.043 --> 00:26:24.663 There's something about it, you know? 00:26:25.053 --> 00:26:27.903 Um, and yeah, so that's who I work with. 00:26:27.903 --> 00:26:27.993 Right. 00:26:27.993 --> 00:26:28.323 I was just 00:26:28.323 --> 00:26:31.113 Anke: thinking like, it's a bit hard to imagine the, also the zoom call. 00:26:31.743 --> 00:26:32.763 Lisa: Yeah, exactly. 00:26:33.048 --> 00:26:35.728 Anke: I mean, I know, I know when you work the photos, but I mean that image just. 00:26:35.973 --> 00:26:36.693 Popped to mind. 00:26:36.693 --> 00:26:37.533 I'm like, that's, yeah. 00:26:37.533 --> 00:26:38.163 I have 00:26:38.163 --> 00:26:38.883 Lisa: done it though. 00:26:39.243 --> 00:26:42.273 I have done it, and I, I've done it a few times and I'll say it's 00:26:42.273 --> 00:26:45.873 hard because they're, they're out in the stables and chances are it's 00:26:45.873 --> 00:26:47.913 a rural setting, this bad signal. 00:26:49.563 --> 00:26:49.983 Right. 00:26:49.983 --> 00:26:52.053 You know, and you're just like, oh, this isn't working. 00:26:52.293 --> 00:26:54.423 Whereas I just, I just think there's something about them. 00:26:54.423 --> 00:26:56.043 You need to show up, you know? 00:26:56.343 --> 00:26:57.543 I absolutely love them. 00:26:57.543 --> 00:26:59.343 So, which is my favorite. 00:26:59.613 --> 00:27:04.713 I think like, I, I genuinely think I, it's a tie between cats 00:27:04.713 --> 00:27:06.903 and horses and then the doggies. 00:27:06.903 --> 00:27:08.403 I love doggies too. 00:27:08.403 --> 00:27:11.373 Like so, but it's, you know, if you wanna pick winners, for me 00:27:11.373 --> 00:27:12.933 it's probably cats and horses. 00:27:14.513 --> 00:27:15.788 I love, if I'm being honest. 00:27:16.178 --> 00:27:19.028 Anke: Well, I mean, no, no, that's obviously like, I don't want you to say 00:27:19.028 --> 00:27:20.378 dog just because we're in a dog show. 00:27:20.408 --> 00:27:20.498 Yes, 00:27:21.608 --> 00:27:21.998 Lisa: exactly. 00:27:22.153 --> 00:27:22.393 I want 00:27:22.393 --> 00:27:24.793 Anke: you, I know what you really feel, so Definitely. 00:27:26.053 --> 00:27:30.608 So where can people find out more and book you and how does that work? 00:27:30.608 --> 00:27:32.688 And you know, and you also have a gift that I know of. 00:27:33.103 --> 00:27:33.823 Lisa: Yeah. 00:27:34.033 --> 00:27:37.903 Um, so, so the, the, the gift that I have for everybody is, 00:27:37.903 --> 00:27:39.853 it's a beautiful meditation. 00:27:39.883 --> 00:27:44.053 Um, a link to the meditation where you can download and 00:27:44.053 --> 00:27:46.423 listen to a healing meditation. 00:27:46.873 --> 00:27:51.853 Uh, it's a meditation that helps you really open up your heart energy to 00:27:51.853 --> 00:27:53.863 connect in with your animal family. 00:27:53.923 --> 00:27:58.333 And when you do animal communication, it's true heart to heart connection. 00:27:58.693 --> 00:27:59.053 Okay? 00:27:59.053 --> 00:28:00.313 The true mind and. 00:28:00.778 --> 00:28:05.188 So this meditation is designed where you can connect with any animal, 00:28:05.188 --> 00:28:09.748 whether they're beside you, uh, to bring healing to them and healing for you. 00:28:09.748 --> 00:28:13.258 Or if your animal fam your animal friend is separated from you for any 00:28:13.258 --> 00:28:16.438 reason, maybe they're in the vets or you're traveling, or things like 00:28:16.438 --> 00:28:20.158 that, or you're grieving the loss of an animal that you really, really. 00:28:21.283 --> 00:28:23.653 And, and you want to feel their energy signature. 00:28:23.653 --> 00:28:27.943 This meditation will bring in their energy and it feels like you've just seen them. 00:28:27.943 --> 00:28:29.473 So it's a real heart hug. 00:28:29.473 --> 00:28:30.733 It's just gorgeous. 00:28:30.733 --> 00:28:34.513 It's my most popular meditation, so that's why I just give it out. 00:28:34.513 --> 00:28:37.903 I have to put it out into the world, and it's suitable for beginners. 00:28:37.903 --> 00:28:41.923 It's fully guided with some beautiful music, and so I'd love people to, 00:28:41.923 --> 00:28:45.373 to feel and see how your animal responds when you listen to it. 00:28:45.793 --> 00:28:49.993 Yeah, they do all sorts of stuff like and or to, to kind of give you. 00:28:50.178 --> 00:28:54.258 Uh, clarity and verification that this, this stuff is real, you know? 00:28:54.678 --> 00:28:58.398 Um, and then I suppose the next step then, if people want to work with me 00:28:58.818 --> 00:29:03.678 to dip their toe in even more, um, would be maybe to try one of my, uh, 00:29:03.768 --> 00:29:05.988 individual animal communication sessions. 00:29:06.768 --> 00:29:13.398 Um, and they're done remotely, um, over Zoom, um, uh, horses included. 00:29:14.958 --> 00:29:18.228 Um, and yeah, and we can have some fun with that as well. 00:29:18.228 --> 00:29:22.458 Um, and then if your animal, though, is your cat or dog is, has got, you 00:29:22.458 --> 00:29:25.908 know, serious emotional challenges and balances, physical stuff going 00:29:25.908 --> 00:29:28.548 on, then I offer six month programs. 00:29:28.548 --> 00:29:29.628 Happy Cat, happy you. 00:29:30.413 --> 00:29:31.223 And happy dog. 00:29:31.223 --> 00:29:31.823 Happy you. 00:29:31.823 --> 00:29:35.183 And that's where we bring in all the botanical work, all the them 00:29:35.183 --> 00:29:36.923 healing you, you healing them. 00:29:36.923 --> 00:29:41.693 And we use all the Chinese medicine and we go deep, um, and we get answers. 00:29:42.178 --> 00:29:42.468 Yeah. 00:29:42.728 --> 00:29:44.108 Anke: Sounds fabulous. 00:29:44.423 --> 00:29:44.753 Yeah. 00:29:44.753 --> 00:29:46.253 I can't wait to try that meditations. 00:29:46.253 --> 00:29:46.828 I'm gonna, yeah. 00:29:46.833 --> 00:29:47.513 Yeah. 00:29:47.513 --> 00:29:48.533 So that myself. 00:29:48.923 --> 00:29:49.493 Yeah. 00:29:49.583 --> 00:29:50.873 Well, thank you so much. 00:29:50.873 --> 00:29:53.423 This was really, really insightful. 00:29:53.423 --> 00:29:55.188 And um, yeah, and I just. 00:29:56.298 --> 00:29:59.238 I can totally see like that meditation, like if your voice is there, 00:29:59.238 --> 00:30:01.218 you've got such a soothing voice. 00:30:01.668 --> 00:30:01.698 Oh 00:30:02.058 --> 00:30:02.478 Lisa: yeah. 00:30:02.478 --> 00:30:03.138 Thank you. 00:30:03.138 --> 00:30:04.038 I appreciate that. 00:30:04.038 --> 00:30:04.278 Yeah. 00:30:04.278 --> 00:30:07.968 People have said that to me before and, and what's really interesting is when 00:30:07.968 --> 00:30:12.438 I work with an animal and if they're, if, if their guardians are playing. 00:30:12.703 --> 00:30:16.873 My, one of my TikTok videos or one of my meditations, the animal 00:30:16.873 --> 00:30:18.433 comes straight up to the screen. 00:30:18.763 --> 00:30:22.183 Yeah, they just, they, they know my, my voice a mile away now. 00:30:22.213 --> 00:30:26.113 But yeah, so I also forgot to mention my website, uh, is, is, 00:30:26.113 --> 00:30:27.883 yeah, that's probably key, isn't it? 00:30:28.813 --> 00:30:29.263 That would help. 00:30:29.833 --> 00:30:30.223 Yeah. 00:30:30.523 --> 00:30:33.523 Um, my website is animal healing, ie. 00:30:33.523 --> 00:30:34.993 So that's really easy to remember. 00:30:35.173 --> 00:30:35.653 So yeah. 00:30:35.653 --> 00:30:35.773 Awesome. 00:30:35.773 --> 00:30:36.613 Come, come on out. 00:30:36.673 --> 00:30:36.793 Well, 00:30:36.793 --> 00:30:40.093 Anke: thank you so much and um, yeah, absolute delight. 00:30:40.938 --> 00:30:42.708 And I hope to have you back someday. 00:30:43.008 --> 00:30:44.118 Lisa: Yeah, I'd love to come back. 00:30:44.148 --> 00:30:46.668 Thank you for having me, and thank you to everyone who's listening. 00:30:46.668 --> 00:30:46.788 Thank 00:30:47.448 --> 00:30:47.508 Anke: you. 00:30:48.851 --> 00:30:50.081 Thanks so much for listening. 00:30:50.601 --> 00:30:54.901 If you enjoyed the episode, don't forget to subscribe, and leave a review so 00:30:55.001 --> 00:30:56.781 other dog lovers can find the show. 00:30:57.571 --> 00:31:01.061 If you haven't already, head over to soul touched by dogs. 00:31:01.491 --> 00:31:07.061 com and sign up for weekly doggy cuteness tips, recommendations, and personal 00:31:07.161 --> 00:31:09.531 stories to warm your dog loving heart. 00:31:09.531 --> 00:31:13.261 And if you know a pawsome human you think I should interview, 00:31:13.681 --> 00:31:14.821 I'd love an introduction. 00:31:15.301 --> 00:31:17.131 Email me at Anke. 00:31:17.401 --> 00:31:21.636 That's A N k E at Soul touched by dogs.com.