WEBVTT 00:00:03.032 --> 00:00:05.533 what is up everybody it's the chairman of 00:00:05.573 --> 00:00:07.012 the united states department of nerds 00:00:07.033 --> 00:00:09.253 where we are for the people by the 00:00:09.294 --> 00:00:12.814 people and of the people and today is 00:00:12.855 --> 00:00:15.416 a very special day as we are live 00:00:15.736 --> 00:00:18.097 from our first ever con 00:00:18.527 --> 00:00:23.449 with the DFPN live here in Cape Girardeau, 00:00:23.809 --> 00:00:27.091 Missouri as a part of Cape Con. 00:00:27.591 --> 00:00:30.553 A big day for us and the council 00:00:30.612 --> 00:00:31.013 members. 00:00:31.713 --> 00:00:34.274 It is awesome to be here to answer 00:00:34.314 --> 00:00:36.716 some questions and to just talk about some 00:00:36.756 --> 00:00:39.777 general pop culture and what it tastes 00:00:39.817 --> 00:00:40.158 really. 00:00:40.258 --> 00:00:41.658 If you have questions about making indie 00:00:41.698 --> 00:00:42.179 comic books, 00:00:42.198 --> 00:00:45.240 I'm pretty darn good and knowledgeable on 00:00:45.399 --> 00:00:46.381 indie comic books. 00:00:47.381 --> 00:00:48.161 So with that, 00:00:49.807 --> 00:00:51.375 I want to introduce my fellow council 00:00:51.414 --> 00:00:53.164 members on the table. 00:00:54.399 --> 00:00:55.140 Let you go first. 00:00:55.261 --> 00:00:56.201 Oh, what up, everybody? 00:00:56.561 --> 00:00:57.743 It's your homie Mack, a.k.a. 00:00:57.762 --> 00:00:58.222 your boy. 00:00:58.564 --> 00:00:59.643 If you've been rocking with my man, 00:00:59.664 --> 00:01:01.326 the chairman over on DFPN, 00:01:01.345 --> 00:01:02.587 you've probably seen me on a couple of 00:01:02.606 --> 00:01:02.966 shows, 00:01:03.027 --> 00:01:05.269 Eat the Cake Anime and The Smoke Pit. 00:01:05.769 --> 00:01:08.432 I am what you would call a Padawan 00:01:08.552 --> 00:01:09.472 when it comes to a lot of the 00:01:09.513 --> 00:01:12.155 comic stuff that the Jedi Master, 00:01:12.855 --> 00:01:14.236 the chairman is, right? 00:01:14.617 --> 00:01:15.957 But I'm always here. 00:01:16.539 --> 00:01:18.019 It's cool being around these guys, 00:01:18.319 --> 00:01:19.501 teaching me a little bit more, 00:01:19.620 --> 00:01:20.902 because all I do is just pretty much 00:01:20.941 --> 00:01:21.262 follow 00:01:22.022 --> 00:01:24.165 everything tmnt when it comes to comics so 00:01:24.564 --> 00:01:26.245 they're uh kind of bringing me into the 00:01:26.266 --> 00:01:27.486 loop on a lot of the other things 00:01:27.527 --> 00:01:29.207 so uh good to be here good to 00:01:29.227 --> 00:01:31.810 support my guy here and um like he 00:01:31.849 --> 00:01:33.710 said big day for us here at dfpn 00:01:33.891 --> 00:01:36.692 first actual live show at a con for 00:01:36.873 --> 00:01:38.754 uh usd and i'm just uh happy to 00:01:38.774 --> 00:01:39.454 be a part of it bro 00:01:40.518 --> 00:01:42.980 same same and uh i will echo that 00:01:43.141 --> 00:01:45.263 it's it's an honor to be a council 00:01:45.304 --> 00:01:48.706 member at the first live usdn show i 00:01:48.748 --> 00:01:50.269 am bred like a king made his coven 00:01:50.289 --> 00:01:53.972 kaylee otherwise known as black mac and uh 00:01:54.034 --> 00:01:56.376 i really really nerd out about wrestling 00:01:56.596 --> 00:01:59.459 that is my that's my specialty i am 00:01:59.519 --> 00:02:00.680 a stone cold 00:02:01.664 --> 00:02:04.566 nerd if you if you pick up pick 00:02:04.587 --> 00:02:10.353 that up but um but i like to 00:02:10.372 --> 00:02:12.375 equate wrestling with a lot of things and 00:02:12.474 --> 00:02:13.997 and one of the things that got me 00:02:14.157 --> 00:02:16.840 into comics was wrestling i was a big 00:02:17.060 --> 00:02:18.562 uh hurricane helms fan 00:02:19.262 --> 00:02:21.984 And Hurricane Helms was a big fan of 00:02:22.044 --> 00:02:22.865 DC Comics. 00:02:23.025 --> 00:02:25.026 Green Lantern was where he based his 00:02:25.067 --> 00:02:25.848 gimmick off of. 00:02:25.888 --> 00:02:26.168 Right. 00:02:26.407 --> 00:02:29.670 And just following him got me into comics 00:02:29.711 --> 00:02:32.073 and it led me down this crazy path 00:02:32.092 --> 00:02:33.394 that I've been on for a while. 00:02:33.413 --> 00:02:33.554 But 00:02:34.348 --> 00:02:34.609 Yeah, 00:02:34.628 --> 00:02:35.969 so it's an honor and a pleasure to 00:02:36.009 --> 00:02:36.569 be on. 00:02:37.629 --> 00:02:40.151 I'm very proud to be here this weekend. 00:02:40.170 --> 00:02:42.532 This is a very dope, incredible weekend. 00:02:42.831 --> 00:02:44.772 And I'm glad that this is the show 00:02:44.812 --> 00:02:48.093 that is bringing us home because it's time 00:02:48.133 --> 00:02:48.774 to have some fun. 00:02:48.794 --> 00:02:49.735 Let's start out and have some fun. 00:02:49.754 --> 00:02:50.715 Let's get after it, man. 00:02:51.375 --> 00:02:54.635 So it's been a lot nicer to have 00:02:54.656 --> 00:02:55.776 a whole lot more people in here. 00:02:55.817 --> 00:02:57.236 But, sir, in the back, 00:02:57.917 --> 00:02:59.978 you got any questions about indie comics 00:03:00.038 --> 00:03:00.899 or comics in general? 00:03:00.919 --> 00:03:01.938 I don't know. 00:03:03.123 --> 00:03:05.905 What is that? 00:03:05.925 --> 00:03:06.625 What's your guys' favorite series? 00:03:06.645 --> 00:03:06.985 Favorite series? 00:03:07.026 --> 00:03:07.746 That's a good one. 00:03:07.765 --> 00:03:08.205 For me, 00:03:08.265 --> 00:03:10.467 it's going to be some James Tinian in 00:03:10.526 --> 00:03:11.266 Boom Studios, 00:03:11.306 --> 00:03:12.467 Something is Killing the Children. 00:03:13.268 --> 00:03:14.908 I can't recommend that book enough, 00:03:14.949 --> 00:03:16.770 especially since it was just announced 00:03:16.789 --> 00:03:18.229 that they're going to be getting a TV 00:03:18.270 --> 00:03:20.311 movie, or just a movie in general. 00:03:20.330 --> 00:03:21.471 I think they're getting an animated 00:03:21.531 --> 00:03:22.032 series, 00:03:22.551 --> 00:03:24.211 and I think that's huge for the comic 00:03:24.231 --> 00:03:25.853 book world as a whole, 00:03:26.453 --> 00:03:29.634 as an independent comic is getting a TV 00:03:29.675 --> 00:03:30.115 series. 00:03:31.334 --> 00:03:32.835 So that's my answer. 00:03:33.675 --> 00:03:33.935 Yeah. 00:03:33.975 --> 00:03:34.936 And like I said, you know, 00:03:34.955 --> 00:03:36.537 I'm a big Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 00:03:37.056 --> 00:03:37.698 comic fan. 00:03:38.157 --> 00:03:40.419 And that's more from being a kid watching 00:03:40.438 --> 00:03:42.159 the cartoon growing up and then figuring 00:03:42.240 --> 00:03:42.961 out, oh, there was, 00:03:43.741 --> 00:03:45.141 it's based on a comic series and not 00:03:45.162 --> 00:03:46.282 just a random thing. 00:03:46.322 --> 00:03:49.843 So I will say it was eye-opening learning 00:03:50.044 --> 00:03:52.566 about the turtles in the eighties on the 00:03:52.605 --> 00:03:54.187 cartoon and then reading the comics. 00:03:54.206 --> 00:03:55.927 You're like, oh, this is way different, 00:03:56.048 --> 00:03:56.228 right? 00:03:57.576 --> 00:03:58.637 This is some real stuff. 00:03:58.937 --> 00:03:59.897 But as I got older, 00:03:59.957 --> 00:04:01.758 you start to appreciate that more, right? 00:04:02.758 --> 00:04:03.557 I will say it's kind of, 00:04:05.419 --> 00:04:06.459 you get to a point where you just 00:04:06.479 --> 00:04:09.340 have to accept, you know, 00:04:09.460 --> 00:04:10.800 I don't know if you've seen the newest 00:04:11.000 --> 00:04:13.540 Turtle movie, the Mutant Mayhem. 00:04:14.441 --> 00:04:15.461 My youngest liked it. 00:04:15.640 --> 00:04:16.822 I was looking at it like, you know, 00:04:17.021 --> 00:04:19.101 it's not for me getting a new generation 00:04:19.122 --> 00:04:19.841 of Turtle fans. 00:04:19.922 --> 00:04:21.163 But I'm excited. 00:04:21.262 --> 00:04:21.783 Obviously, 00:04:22.083 --> 00:04:23.963 Lash Ronan did real well for them. 00:04:24.704 --> 00:04:25.564 They packaged that up. 00:04:26.324 --> 00:04:28.607 movie in the making from all the reports 00:04:28.687 --> 00:04:29.127 I'm seeing. 00:04:29.187 --> 00:04:31.951 So R-rated should be a good time for 00:04:31.992 --> 00:04:32.192 me. 00:04:33.053 --> 00:04:33.954 Not sure if I'm going to take my 00:04:33.995 --> 00:04:34.755 eight-year-old to see it, 00:04:34.776 --> 00:04:37.019 but that's my favorite series. 00:04:38.680 --> 00:04:40.202 If it comes out while we're around. 00:04:43.600 --> 00:04:44.180 For me, 00:04:44.521 --> 00:04:49.346 I am a big Infinity Gauntlet saga person. 00:04:50.307 --> 00:04:52.709 Just the rise of Thanos and the story 00:04:52.728 --> 00:04:55.211 they told with him and how he became 00:04:55.271 --> 00:04:58.175 the Mad Titan and everything that came 00:04:58.194 --> 00:05:00.036 from him getting the gems and what that 00:05:00.096 --> 00:05:00.538 led to. 00:05:01.437 --> 00:05:02.819 It's one of those things. 00:05:03.139 --> 00:05:07.199 I was okay with the Infinity Saga and 00:05:07.459 --> 00:05:07.920 the MCU, 00:05:08.420 --> 00:05:11.742 but they missed out on a lot of 00:05:12.141 --> 00:05:14.622 great stuff that they could have drawn 00:05:14.663 --> 00:05:15.002 from. 00:05:15.682 --> 00:05:18.184 One being how Thanos' relationship with 00:05:18.244 --> 00:05:18.564 death 00:05:19.163 --> 00:05:21.665 could have played out that I feel like 00:05:21.685 --> 00:05:23.226 they could have definitely a big missed. 00:05:23.487 --> 00:05:23.706 Yeah, 00:05:23.747 --> 00:05:26.728 it was definitely it still presented 00:05:26.788 --> 00:05:28.329 itself and they never really pulled the 00:05:28.370 --> 00:05:29.011 trigger on it. 00:05:29.370 --> 00:05:31.291 But I feel like they could have made 00:05:31.331 --> 00:05:33.334 that a very, very great story, 00:05:34.093 --> 00:05:35.235 not matter what they told, 00:05:35.274 --> 00:05:37.016 because it's one of the it's one of 00:05:37.036 --> 00:05:38.317 the best things that they've done, 00:05:38.456 --> 00:05:38.997 obviously. 00:05:39.038 --> 00:05:39.237 But 00:05:39.817 --> 00:05:41.779 that whole that whole saga like when they 00:05:41.839 --> 00:05:43.802 first announced thanos was coming i was 00:05:43.903 --> 00:05:46.545 like first in line take my money i 00:05:46.565 --> 00:05:48.468 can camp out here we don't have to 00:05:48.487 --> 00:05:51.331 go anywhere i love it but that that 00:05:51.351 --> 00:05:53.673 would be my answer is the infinity series 00:05:53.694 --> 00:05:53.975 so 00:05:54.334 --> 00:05:55.394 So we got a couple of questions here 00:05:55.435 --> 00:05:56.035 in the chat. 00:05:56.475 --> 00:05:57.776 And Caitlin wants to know, 00:05:57.855 --> 00:06:00.516 what comic would you recommend for a new 00:06:00.596 --> 00:06:01.516 Red Hood fan? 00:06:02.237 --> 00:06:02.656 Caitlin, 00:06:02.857 --> 00:06:04.716 I can't speak a whole lot about Red 00:06:04.737 --> 00:06:04.896 Hood. 00:06:05.016 --> 00:06:08.197 I do know that the current run of 00:06:08.478 --> 00:06:11.079 the Red Hood was cut short by something 00:06:11.098 --> 00:06:13.778 that was said by the author of that 00:06:13.819 --> 00:06:14.399 comic book. 00:06:14.420 --> 00:06:16.600 So DC did put a stop to it, 00:06:16.620 --> 00:06:18.480 which was a shame because there is a 00:06:18.540 --> 00:06:20.461 lot of potential there for that book. 00:06:21.430 --> 00:06:24.454 But as a fan who I focus a 00:06:24.494 --> 00:06:26.336 lot more on indie comics and not 00:06:26.375 --> 00:06:28.137 necessarily DC or Marvel, 00:06:28.517 --> 00:06:30.059 it's hard for me to put a recommendation 00:06:30.119 --> 00:06:32.180 out there for you on that. 00:06:32.201 --> 00:06:33.041 And I wish I could give you a 00:06:33.081 --> 00:06:34.103 better answer than that. 00:06:35.315 --> 00:06:36.896 And then we got some casting the spotlight 00:06:36.916 --> 00:06:37.757 fellas in here. 00:06:38.398 --> 00:06:39.718 And they want to know how we would 00:06:39.778 --> 00:06:42.060 rank the four turtles from favorite to 00:06:42.161 --> 00:06:42.461 least. 00:06:42.480 --> 00:06:43.641 I'll let you go with that one first. 00:06:43.982 --> 00:06:45.322 That's a tough one. 00:06:45.463 --> 00:06:48.024 It's not, but it's kind of corny. 00:06:48.966 --> 00:06:50.567 So, and I'll tell you why. 00:06:51.267 --> 00:06:52.869 Me and my brothers would watch it growing 00:06:52.928 --> 00:06:53.088 up. 00:06:53.528 --> 00:06:54.790 And we would always act like the TV 00:06:54.810 --> 00:06:56.471 would piss my parents off, right? 00:06:56.511 --> 00:06:56.692 So... 00:06:57.471 --> 00:06:58.454 I would be Leonardo. 00:06:58.593 --> 00:07:00.358 My older brother would be Michelangelo. 00:07:01.139 --> 00:07:02.141 And then the younger brother, 00:07:02.161 --> 00:07:03.202 like he would just like, 00:07:03.223 --> 00:07:04.345 these are the two turtles you got to 00:07:04.384 --> 00:07:05.007 pick from, right? 00:07:05.047 --> 00:07:05.588 Like you're either. 00:07:05.992 --> 00:07:07.814 raf or donatello most of the time he 00:07:07.855 --> 00:07:10.857 was donatello um but as i got older 00:07:10.877 --> 00:07:12.939 like you're looking at it leo was still 00:07:12.959 --> 00:07:15.120 my favorite i don't care what anybody says 00:07:15.221 --> 00:07:16.903 i know it's the corny answer because he's 00:07:16.942 --> 00:07:19.305 all normal the splinter's favorite and 00:07:19.345 --> 00:07:21.826 everything i will say that as a kid 00:07:21.887 --> 00:07:23.528 raf was kind of towards the end because 00:07:23.569 --> 00:07:25.571 i didn't really like his weapon but as 00:07:25.610 --> 00:07:27.031 i got older and you read the comics 00:07:27.091 --> 00:07:29.374 and you see uh the relationship between 00:07:29.413 --> 00:07:30.235 him and leo like 00:07:31.442 --> 00:07:32.744 There are some days it's like one A, 00:07:32.843 --> 00:07:33.144 one B. 00:07:33.163 --> 00:07:37.266 Like I can understand Raph's point at that 00:07:37.307 --> 00:07:37.968 point in life. 00:07:39.608 --> 00:07:41.329 Mikey has moved up as well since, 00:07:42.550 --> 00:07:43.391 is it spoiler alert? 00:07:43.411 --> 00:07:43.471 Nah. 00:07:43.490 --> 00:07:44.771 Nah, nah. 00:07:45.713 --> 00:07:47.194 You know, if I talk Lash Ronin, 00:07:48.375 --> 00:07:49.915 if you have it like by now, 00:07:50.475 --> 00:07:51.237 by now. 00:07:51.377 --> 00:07:51.956 We're giving spoilers. 00:07:52.437 --> 00:07:53.257 Lash Ronin, 00:07:53.637 --> 00:07:54.678 all the other turtles are dead. 00:07:54.699 --> 00:07:55.439 There's one left. 00:07:55.459 --> 00:07:56.480 Everybody's like, who could it be? 00:07:56.500 --> 00:07:57.180 It's Michelangelo. 00:07:58.011 --> 00:08:01.512 And seeing him evolve from the party, 00:08:02.072 --> 00:08:04.074 you know, as he was portrayed in cartoons, 00:08:04.093 --> 00:08:05.834 like most people would still like see him 00:08:05.915 --> 00:08:07.915 in any kind of media on TV. 00:08:08.255 --> 00:08:10.877 They never really get into how serious the 00:08:10.918 --> 00:08:11.478 Turtles get. 00:08:11.538 --> 00:08:13.418 So even the Michael Bay movies, 00:08:13.439 --> 00:08:15.620 they still kind of have Mikey being the 00:08:15.660 --> 00:08:17.761 youngest, obviously, fourteen, fifteen, 00:08:17.800 --> 00:08:18.401 being a kid, 00:08:18.920 --> 00:08:20.401 seeing him as the last Ronin and seeing 00:08:20.422 --> 00:08:21.463 that he's about that action. 00:08:21.483 --> 00:08:23.062 I'm like, OK, Mikey, you know, 00:08:23.144 --> 00:08:23.803 and then Donnie. 00:08:24.824 --> 00:08:25.805 You know, no love lost. 00:08:25.846 --> 00:08:27.348 Like, I had to put somebody at four, 00:08:27.567 --> 00:08:27.908 Donnie. 00:08:27.949 --> 00:08:30.112 So I got Leo, Raph, Mike, 00:08:30.192 --> 00:08:32.375 and Donnie as my lineup. 00:08:32.674 --> 00:08:33.355 Best to worst? 00:08:33.817 --> 00:08:34.337 Best to worst. 00:08:34.357 --> 00:08:34.979 Oh, okay. 00:08:36.640 --> 00:08:37.041 Ralph, 00:08:37.081 --> 00:08:39.322 because Ralph was about that action at all 00:08:39.383 --> 00:08:39.783 times. 00:08:39.803 --> 00:08:41.865 About them hands. 00:08:42.265 --> 00:08:42.586 Ralph. 00:08:43.027 --> 00:08:43.907 And I feel like, 00:08:44.788 --> 00:08:46.269 so me and my brother kind of have 00:08:46.288 --> 00:08:48.650 that relationship to where, like, 00:08:49.032 --> 00:08:50.533 I'm younger than he is. 00:08:51.754 --> 00:08:53.816 But, you know, I kind of see myself, 00:08:53.855 --> 00:08:55.798 like, in that leadership role sometimes. 00:08:56.118 --> 00:08:57.458 And you'd be like, man, hey, listen, 00:08:57.578 --> 00:08:59.039 I'm the big brother. 00:08:59.059 --> 00:08:59.600 Chill out. 00:08:59.880 --> 00:09:01.481 you know what i mean like i'm not 00:09:01.501 --> 00:09:03.203 bro i got it i i got it 00:09:03.303 --> 00:09:04.605 i've been out here i've been grinding i 00:09:04.625 --> 00:09:07.187 can get it so ralph i always kind 00:09:07.206 --> 00:09:08.868 of related to yeah because of me and 00:09:08.888 --> 00:09:11.990 my older brother um so ralph leo is 00:09:12.090 --> 00:09:15.232 obviously second um because of that he he 00:09:15.332 --> 00:09:17.534 is the leader in the leadership role but 00:09:17.575 --> 00:09:19.296 he does give the turtles a lot of 00:09:19.336 --> 00:09:20.356 grace at times 00:09:20.797 --> 00:09:22.239 you know what i mean like he let 00:09:22.278 --> 00:09:24.880 he lets them do their thing and tries 00:09:24.921 --> 00:09:27.724 not to overstep his bounds as a leader 00:09:27.943 --> 00:09:30.886 which i think is an underrated quality it 00:09:30.907 --> 00:09:34.110 really is um without without the last 00:09:34.169 --> 00:09:36.732 ronin i have to put donatello in third 00:09:36.753 --> 00:09:41.616 place just because just because his brains 00:09:42.600 --> 00:09:44.841 His brains is the glue that keeps 00:09:44.921 --> 00:09:45.721 everybody together. 00:09:45.740 --> 00:09:46.322 True. 00:09:46.361 --> 00:09:47.361 True. 00:09:47.422 --> 00:09:49.523 He's constantly thinking of ways to get 00:09:49.543 --> 00:09:51.043 them better or make them better. 00:09:51.384 --> 00:09:54.924 But I think that's a very underappreciated 00:09:55.325 --> 00:09:55.845 quality. 00:09:56.044 --> 00:09:56.466 Yes. 00:09:57.306 --> 00:09:58.125 And then Mikey, 00:09:58.726 --> 00:10:04.948 not because he is the least, but yeah. 00:10:05.009 --> 00:10:07.269 There's a lot more depth to the other 00:10:07.309 --> 00:10:10.010 people for me without going into the last 00:10:10.030 --> 00:10:10.291 runner. 00:10:10.311 --> 00:10:11.010 But the last runner, 00:10:11.030 --> 00:10:12.072 he actually was like... 00:10:12.764 --> 00:10:14.285 Mikey might be that dude. 00:10:14.446 --> 00:10:14.745 Oh, yeah. 00:10:14.765 --> 00:10:17.427 Mikey might just be that dude. 00:10:17.467 --> 00:10:18.028 He's that guy. 00:10:19.609 --> 00:10:21.610 Shout out to our bro Rob in the 00:10:21.630 --> 00:10:25.432 chat who said, Raph, Leo, Mike, 00:10:25.953 --> 00:10:26.573 and Donnie. 00:10:27.654 --> 00:10:28.495 Oh, great. 00:10:28.534 --> 00:10:29.755 I don't think there's a wrong answer to 00:10:29.796 --> 00:10:30.056 this, 00:10:30.076 --> 00:10:32.498 but I'm going to go Raph just simply 00:10:32.538 --> 00:10:35.460 because the dude was a complete underrated 00:10:35.500 --> 00:10:36.660 badass in the comic book. 00:10:37.434 --> 00:10:40.619 Then I'll go Mikey because last run is 00:10:40.639 --> 00:10:42.081 probably my favorite Ninja Turtles of all 00:10:42.140 --> 00:10:42.481 time. 00:10:43.162 --> 00:10:45.144 Then I'm going to go Leo and Donnie. 00:10:45.184 --> 00:10:46.407 And that's not a knock on any of 00:10:46.427 --> 00:10:48.168 the Ninja Turtles because I'm a huge fan 00:10:48.428 --> 00:10:49.311 of the Ninja Turtles. 00:10:49.910 --> 00:10:50.152 So... 00:10:50.631 --> 00:10:52.373 I will give Donatello his respects if 00:10:52.393 --> 00:10:54.734 you're playing the NES Ninja Turtle game. 00:10:55.173 --> 00:10:58.096 Save Donnie for last because his bo staff 00:10:58.155 --> 00:10:59.417 lays a cheat code out there. 00:10:59.697 --> 00:11:02.418 If we're picking him in the NES, 00:11:02.498 --> 00:11:04.019 Donnie is my guy, right? 00:11:04.038 --> 00:11:07.280 Yes. 00:11:07.321 --> 00:11:08.461 You want that standoff. 00:11:08.701 --> 00:11:11.182 Yes. 00:11:11.283 --> 00:11:12.264 Great questions. 00:11:12.683 --> 00:11:14.904 Keep the questions coming in the chat, 00:11:15.304 --> 00:11:17.186 but we'll turn a little bit more of 00:11:17.206 --> 00:11:18.167 attention toward 00:11:18.902 --> 00:11:20.082 a little bit of indie comics. 00:11:20.102 --> 00:11:22.024 I'm kind of what I've been doing here 00:11:22.163 --> 00:11:24.765 lately within the world of indie comics 00:11:24.846 --> 00:11:26.047 until we get more questions. 00:11:26.746 --> 00:11:28.509 So many, many months ago, 00:11:30.009 --> 00:11:31.129 I was kind of like at a loss 00:11:31.171 --> 00:11:32.751 in direction of what I wanted to do 00:11:32.831 --> 00:11:34.293 with the United States department of 00:11:34.352 --> 00:11:34.712 nerds. 00:11:35.212 --> 00:11:37.434 And I got an email and it was 00:11:37.455 --> 00:11:37.934 like, Hey, 00:11:37.955 --> 00:11:40.356 could I come on your podcast and discuss 00:11:40.836 --> 00:11:42.778 my new comic book? 00:11:42.879 --> 00:11:43.318 I was like, 00:11:44.301 --> 00:11:46.682 hell yeah, I need something to do, 00:11:46.724 --> 00:11:47.364 let's do that. 00:11:47.865 --> 00:11:50.147 So we get that set up and then 00:11:50.407 --> 00:11:52.328 it kind of become a snowball effect after 00:11:52.369 --> 00:11:55.251 that where I was getting emails or just 00:11:55.312 --> 00:11:57.514 DMs left and right basically going, hey, 00:11:57.553 --> 00:11:58.676 can I come on the podcast? 00:11:58.696 --> 00:11:59.897 Can I come on the podcast and talk 00:11:59.917 --> 00:12:00.638 about my work? 00:12:01.447 --> 00:12:05.331 So it's really been like literally not 00:12:05.351 --> 00:12:06.352 even thirty minutes ago, 00:12:06.413 --> 00:12:08.595 I was answering an email for another indie 00:12:08.634 --> 00:12:10.517 creator wanting to come on the United 00:12:10.537 --> 00:12:12.258 States Department of Nerds and discuss 00:12:12.357 --> 00:12:14.259 their upcoming comic book that they're 00:12:14.279 --> 00:12:16.081 going to be kicking off on Kickstarter. 00:12:16.402 --> 00:12:17.802 Well, it's already live on Kickstarter, 00:12:17.822 --> 00:12:18.904 but they want to come on and talk 00:12:18.924 --> 00:12:20.485 about it to see if we can't get 00:12:20.505 --> 00:12:22.227 them pushed over the line and get them 00:12:22.288 --> 00:12:22.668 funded, 00:12:23.128 --> 00:12:25.250 which is a really cool thing that I 00:12:25.291 --> 00:12:26.250 get to do is 00:12:27.184 --> 00:12:30.187 help creators get their comic book to the 00:12:30.226 --> 00:12:33.649 next level and get it promoted and funded. 00:12:34.551 --> 00:12:36.412 That way they can bring that comic book 00:12:36.451 --> 00:12:40.095 to the masses of people at cons just 00:12:40.134 --> 00:12:40.875 like this one. 00:12:41.816 --> 00:12:42.716 So I've been really, 00:12:44.138 --> 00:12:45.980 really thankful in that aspect to be able 00:12:46.000 --> 00:12:47.201 to get to do that and to bring 00:12:47.260 --> 00:12:51.844 something different to the world of comic 00:12:51.884 --> 00:12:52.485 books where 00:12:53.355 --> 00:12:54.135 Those creators, 00:12:54.176 --> 00:12:56.157 those indie creators aren't getting the 00:12:56.216 --> 00:12:58.038 love that the big name creators do get 00:12:58.118 --> 00:13:00.258 at Marvel and DC and Image. 00:13:00.778 --> 00:13:02.298 So that has been a really fun thing 00:13:02.318 --> 00:13:03.119 that I've gotten to do. 00:13:03.178 --> 00:13:06.299 I've also gotten to, just what, 00:13:06.340 --> 00:13:07.019 two weeks ago, 00:13:07.139 --> 00:13:11.001 I interviewed the creator and writer and 00:13:11.042 --> 00:13:14.442 director of ZombieCon, the volume one, 00:13:14.462 --> 00:13:16.822 which is a indie movie that is really, 00:13:17.203 --> 00:13:17.803 really fun. 00:13:18.836 --> 00:13:20.018 I got to watch that movie. 00:13:20.138 --> 00:13:26.062 I got to interview, um, what's his name? 00:13:26.102 --> 00:13:27.563 No, it's Aaron Anya, 00:13:27.903 --> 00:13:29.205 who also is his wife. 00:13:30.105 --> 00:13:31.307 And then, um, 00:13:31.326 --> 00:13:32.288 can't remember his first name, 00:13:32.307 --> 00:13:33.408 but his last name is Valley. 00:13:35.605 --> 00:13:36.307 This is going to bother me, 00:13:36.346 --> 00:13:37.126 so give me a second. 00:13:37.147 --> 00:13:38.408 Let me look up his name because I 00:13:38.427 --> 00:13:39.649 don't want to give you all bad gouge. 00:13:40.529 --> 00:13:42.410 They deserve all the love they can get. 00:13:43.051 --> 00:13:43.672 That's all good. 00:13:44.432 --> 00:13:46.173 They have a comment come through a 00:13:46.214 --> 00:13:46.693 question. 00:13:47.274 --> 00:13:50.216 Have you read Once and Future from looks 00:13:50.236 --> 00:13:52.077 like Carrie and Gillen? 00:13:55.780 --> 00:13:57.162 I have to look into it. 00:13:57.341 --> 00:14:00.604 That sounds like if you can give us 00:14:00.644 --> 00:14:01.924 a premise of what that is. 00:14:02.284 --> 00:14:02.684 Kyle Valli. 00:14:05.298 --> 00:14:06.799 Kyle Valley is his name. 00:14:07.059 --> 00:14:07.340 Okay. 00:14:07.660 --> 00:14:09.201 He wrote, directed, 00:14:09.642 --> 00:14:11.923 did everything related to ZombieCon Volume 00:14:12.063 --> 00:14:14.765 One with his wife, Erin Anya. 00:14:16.067 --> 00:14:18.008 Great, great movie. 00:14:18.128 --> 00:14:20.669 Cannot recommend it enough to y'all to 00:14:20.710 --> 00:14:21.730 check that movie out. 00:14:21.750 --> 00:14:22.912 I think you can rent it for ninety 00:14:22.951 --> 00:14:24.393 nine cents on Amazon. 00:14:26.509 --> 00:14:26.590 Nice. 00:14:26.610 --> 00:14:30.431 I got a question for you. 00:14:30.990 --> 00:14:32.350 When did you get into comics? 00:14:33.010 --> 00:14:34.851 And if there's a fan out there, 00:14:35.011 --> 00:14:36.772 a younger fan out there that has never 00:14:36.831 --> 00:14:39.111 experienced the joy of comics, 00:14:39.611 --> 00:14:41.552 what direction would you point them in to 00:14:41.592 --> 00:14:41.913 say, 00:14:42.232 --> 00:14:45.432 this is the way we should go to 00:14:46.333 --> 00:14:48.453 get you into comics and become a comic 00:14:48.474 --> 00:14:48.734 fan? 00:14:48.974 --> 00:14:49.813 So it would really, 00:14:49.833 --> 00:14:50.514 at the end of the day, 00:14:50.533 --> 00:14:52.894 I think I'd want to know what exactly 00:14:52.914 --> 00:14:54.495 they are interested in 00:14:55.921 --> 00:14:59.508 Are they interested in like action or are 00:14:59.528 --> 00:15:01.292 they interested in more of a, um, 00:15:01.913 --> 00:15:04.458 like a journey comic, like saga or, um, 00:15:05.908 --> 00:15:06.729 Something like that. 00:15:07.428 --> 00:15:09.191 But it's really going to depend what their 00:15:09.270 --> 00:15:09.770 interest is. 00:15:09.791 --> 00:15:11.873 There's always an indie comic out there 00:15:12.354 --> 00:15:13.134 for everybody, 00:15:13.153 --> 00:15:15.255 whether it's from Image Comics or Boom 00:15:15.275 --> 00:15:17.177 Studios or Dark Horse Studios. 00:15:17.238 --> 00:15:17.998 One of those guys, 00:15:18.458 --> 00:15:20.379 there's literally something out there for 00:15:20.639 --> 00:15:21.421 every interest. 00:15:21.441 --> 00:15:22.782 And that's what's so cool about the indie 00:15:22.822 --> 00:15:23.182 comics. 00:15:23.202 --> 00:15:25.945 It's not just focused on the superhero 00:15:26.065 --> 00:15:28.606 aspect of comic book stories like DC and 00:15:28.647 --> 00:15:29.288 Marvel might be. 00:15:29.648 --> 00:15:29.888 Right. 00:15:30.187 --> 00:15:31.489 I guess that kind of answers the question 00:15:31.528 --> 00:15:33.269 for me because I was thinking, 00:15:33.509 --> 00:15:34.510 how did I really... 00:15:35.250 --> 00:15:36.532 I kind of introduced it earlier. 00:15:36.812 --> 00:15:38.293 I got into it because of wrestling. 00:15:38.653 --> 00:15:40.313 But for a long time, 00:15:40.433 --> 00:15:42.274 I didn't know what I actually liked about 00:15:42.315 --> 00:15:42.815 comics. 00:15:43.294 --> 00:15:45.616 Maybe it was the darkness of some of 00:15:45.636 --> 00:15:45.876 them. 00:15:45.937 --> 00:15:48.557 Maybe it was the triumph. 00:15:48.597 --> 00:15:49.639 For a long time, 00:15:50.479 --> 00:15:53.421 until I got really into Marvel and dove 00:15:53.441 --> 00:15:55.121 down Marvel, I was just like... 00:15:55.881 --> 00:15:57.563 it's a comic i'm gonna read it you 00:15:57.644 --> 00:15:59.306 know what i mean like i had stacks 00:15:59.326 --> 00:16:01.807 and stacks and then like didn't know how 00:16:01.828 --> 00:16:03.509 to really sort them out because i was 00:16:03.529 --> 00:16:05.972 just reading comics i and then once i 00:16:05.993 --> 00:16:08.014 got fixated on it that's why like if 00:16:08.034 --> 00:16:10.017 there's a new fan like how do you 00:16:10.378 --> 00:16:11.938 do you just let the fan determine what 00:16:11.979 --> 00:16:13.880 they like i would say 00:16:15.273 --> 00:16:16.173 You just got to know the person. 00:16:16.234 --> 00:16:17.894 It's almost the same thing with anime, 00:16:17.933 --> 00:16:18.095 right? 00:16:18.134 --> 00:16:19.154 People think anime. 00:16:19.455 --> 00:16:19.796 And one, 00:16:19.816 --> 00:16:21.056 they're either thinking it's just, 00:16:21.076 --> 00:16:21.275 you know, 00:16:21.316 --> 00:16:24.518 Dragon Ball Z stuff or big robot mechs. 00:16:24.977 --> 00:16:27.960 Or for those that know about the kind 00:16:27.980 --> 00:16:29.020 with tentacles and all that, 00:16:29.041 --> 00:16:30.201 they'd be like, you know, you're weird. 00:16:30.240 --> 00:16:31.442 You know what I'm saying? 00:16:31.501 --> 00:16:32.442 The hentai and stuff. 00:16:32.461 --> 00:16:34.102 But there's an anime for everything. 00:16:34.143 --> 00:16:37.264 You know, you got sport themes anime, 00:16:37.304 --> 00:16:37.544 right? 00:16:37.585 --> 00:16:38.846 You got your horror animes. 00:16:38.865 --> 00:16:40.807 You got your historical ones like your 00:16:40.826 --> 00:16:42.388 Vinland sagas and things like that. 00:16:42.408 --> 00:16:42.508 So 00:16:42.967 --> 00:16:44.389 It just depends like if you talk to 00:16:44.429 --> 00:16:45.811 a person and get to know their interests 00:16:45.831 --> 00:16:47.513 like guarantee you I can point them to 00:16:47.552 --> 00:16:49.394 an anime and be like Check this out 00:16:49.475 --> 00:16:51.357 right give this a shot and then they 00:16:51.398 --> 00:16:52.698 could just follow that trail like you 00:16:52.719 --> 00:16:54.681 don't have to be I don't want to 00:16:54.701 --> 00:16:55.121 say like 00:16:55.740 --> 00:16:57.182 the people that are now. 00:16:57.221 --> 00:16:58.243 I love anime fans. 00:16:58.263 --> 00:16:59.764 I love that anime is bringing people in, 00:16:59.783 --> 00:17:01.787 but a lot of people are just jumping 00:17:01.826 --> 00:17:02.527 on now saying, 00:17:03.107 --> 00:17:04.789 Demon Slayer is the greatest anime ever. 00:17:04.809 --> 00:17:06.672 And I'm just like, that's cool. 00:17:06.751 --> 00:17:09.295 It's an amazing anime, 00:17:09.375 --> 00:17:12.897 but let's expand your horizons a bit. 00:17:13.638 --> 00:17:14.680 Comics are the same way. 00:17:14.900 --> 00:17:16.961 You look at it, like Jeff said, 00:17:16.980 --> 00:17:19.701 I'm not really into X-Men and all that 00:17:19.721 --> 00:17:19.961 stuff. 00:17:20.122 --> 00:17:21.143 Can I get into comics? 00:17:21.303 --> 00:17:22.163 Hey, check this out. 00:17:22.544 --> 00:17:24.285 Here's some horror comic books. 00:17:25.045 --> 00:17:27.605 Here's some more realistic type things 00:17:27.625 --> 00:17:28.527 like Walking Dead, 00:17:28.586 --> 00:17:31.127 graphic novel type stuff. 00:17:31.147 --> 00:17:31.949 There's other things. 00:17:32.169 --> 00:17:34.009 People look at that and think it's just 00:17:34.089 --> 00:17:34.390 a show. 00:17:34.490 --> 00:17:35.089 No, it's based on this. 00:17:35.170 --> 00:17:36.471 It's based off a comic book. 00:17:36.490 --> 00:17:37.550 The comic book is amazing. 00:17:38.372 --> 00:17:40.692 Back to the question from DrawGuy, 00:17:40.853 --> 00:17:41.232 I guess. 00:17:41.313 --> 00:17:42.213 I have not read 00:17:42.973 --> 00:17:45.217 once and future from Kieran Gillen. 00:17:45.616 --> 00:17:47.098 And that's because it was before I got 00:17:47.138 --> 00:17:49.560 back into reading comic books. 00:17:50.221 --> 00:17:51.742 So I didn't get back into reading comic 00:17:51.762 --> 00:17:53.684 books till pretty much twenty, twenty two, 00:17:53.704 --> 00:17:54.125 I think. 00:17:55.007 --> 00:17:55.906 And then it's just been 00:17:57.048 --> 00:17:58.890 uphill for me since then getting back into 00:17:58.910 --> 00:18:00.250 them and it all started because my 00:18:00.290 --> 00:18:02.633 daughter wanted to stop by the comic book 00:18:02.653 --> 00:18:05.195 shop and see what's there and then as 00:18:05.236 --> 00:18:06.636 we were walking around i started seeing 00:18:06.737 --> 00:18:08.759 titles from when i was a kid that 00:18:08.798 --> 00:18:10.500 brought back good memories for me and i 00:18:10.580 --> 00:18:12.042 was like i want to fill that again 00:18:12.583 --> 00:18:14.585 so i started reading spawn again and it 00:18:14.625 --> 00:18:18.568 just i've been back in the saddle so 00:18:18.608 --> 00:18:21.131 to speak once again so it's been really 00:18:21.171 --> 00:18:21.352 cool 00:18:22.990 --> 00:18:24.491 But I will check out once the future 00:18:24.511 --> 00:18:26.332 because that's really up my alley from 00:18:26.352 --> 00:18:28.653 boom studios And it was a shame to 00:18:28.673 --> 00:18:30.834 see that the owner recently sold boom 00:18:30.874 --> 00:18:32.334 studios but I think it's a positive 00:18:32.374 --> 00:18:35.095 direction for those guys because the owner 00:18:35.115 --> 00:18:37.576 is looking to do new different things and 00:18:38.756 --> 00:18:39.777 He's a great guy who brought us a 00:18:39.817 --> 00:18:41.356 lot of great comic books during his time 00:18:41.416 --> 00:18:42.917 at boom studio So I'm wishing him the 00:18:43.218 --> 00:18:43.817 best of luck. 00:18:43.837 --> 00:18:46.118 I Got a question real quick 00:18:47.818 --> 00:18:49.960 a lot of people have gravitated or would 00:18:50.000 --> 00:18:52.661 you think that more people have gravitated 00:18:52.701 --> 00:18:55.021 towards checking out comics and stuff with 00:18:55.041 --> 00:18:58.343 the popularity of mcu a lot of things 00:18:58.383 --> 00:19:00.284 like that like people go watch the movie 00:19:00.304 --> 00:19:02.265 and probably want to know more uh because 00:19:02.305 --> 00:19:04.365 i will say i noticed the boom of 00:19:04.405 --> 00:19:06.646 like youtube channels that sit down and 00:19:06.686 --> 00:19:07.287 break down 00:19:07.807 --> 00:19:09.567 you know like movies are coming up and 00:19:09.587 --> 00:19:11.369 they're just like here's a backstory it 00:19:11.390 --> 00:19:14.172 wasn't just the MCU coming on board it 00:19:14.211 --> 00:19:16.233 did see a big push but what really 00:19:16.273 --> 00:19:19.636 gave comic books another big push was when 00:19:20.597 --> 00:19:23.200 uh kovit hit because we were going to 00:19:23.240 --> 00:19:25.721 comic book shops for board games and that 00:19:25.761 --> 00:19:26.782 kind of stuff yeah 00:19:27.539 --> 00:19:29.141 just something to entertain since they 00:19:29.161 --> 00:19:30.560 have to be stuck in the house and 00:19:30.601 --> 00:19:31.741 really can't go anywhere. 00:19:32.021 --> 00:19:32.301 Right. 00:19:32.362 --> 00:19:34.182 So really those two days, 00:19:34.542 --> 00:19:37.564 the birth of the MCU really pushed people 00:19:37.683 --> 00:19:37.824 in. 00:19:37.864 --> 00:19:38.324 But again, 00:19:38.344 --> 00:19:41.444 they were just buying the stuff related to 00:19:41.484 --> 00:19:43.726 the more popular titles out there related 00:19:43.786 --> 00:19:46.987 to whatever that MCU movie was focusing 00:19:47.067 --> 00:19:48.166 on, which is cool. 00:19:48.407 --> 00:19:49.587 There's nothing against that. 00:19:50.748 --> 00:19:52.368 It's just a whole lot more world out 00:19:52.388 --> 00:19:54.349 there to discover when it comes to comic 00:19:54.390 --> 00:19:54.750 books. 00:19:54.809 --> 00:19:55.009 So. 00:19:57.432 --> 00:19:58.554 Anybody else in the chat? 00:19:58.594 --> 00:19:59.816 Y'all keep those questions coming. 00:19:59.836 --> 00:19:59.976 Yes, sir. 00:19:59.996 --> 00:20:01.057 You were talking about indie comics and 00:20:01.076 --> 00:20:03.979 all that. 00:20:04.078 --> 00:20:04.480 Of course, 00:20:04.579 --> 00:20:06.842 one of the big things with indies is 00:20:06.942 --> 00:20:08.923 it gets difficult to find some of that 00:20:08.943 --> 00:20:11.306 stuff because it gets buried under a bunch 00:20:11.326 --> 00:20:11.506 of stuff. 00:20:11.526 --> 00:20:12.007 What do you guys think? 00:20:12.027 --> 00:20:16.411 How do you all go about finding new 00:20:16.431 --> 00:20:17.412 series and all that to 00:20:19.073 --> 00:20:19.854 That's a great question. 00:20:19.874 --> 00:20:21.315 So for me, it's New Comment Book Day. 00:20:21.494 --> 00:20:23.136 I hit my LCS on Wednesday, 00:20:23.737 --> 00:20:24.778 and I scroll, 00:20:24.857 --> 00:20:26.799 and if I see something that catches my 00:20:26.920 --> 00:20:28.201 interest, I give it a shot. 00:20:28.701 --> 00:20:30.202 Some of my favorite comment books out 00:20:30.242 --> 00:20:32.163 there were just something that I found on 00:20:32.183 --> 00:20:33.806 the shelf randomly and was just like, 00:20:34.246 --> 00:20:35.146 this looks interesting. 00:20:35.166 --> 00:20:36.448 Let me read this and... 00:20:37.434 --> 00:20:39.376 fell in love with it and so that's 00:20:39.396 --> 00:20:41.598 how i did it dollar bins are a 00:20:41.638 --> 00:20:43.740 great place to start if you know you're 00:20:43.759 --> 00:20:45.541 strapped for cash just hit the dollar bin 00:20:45.602 --> 00:20:47.763 almost every local comic shop in your area 00:20:47.824 --> 00:20:50.226 has a dollar bin i mean what just 00:20:50.246 --> 00:20:52.508 walking around the con here every booth 00:20:52.528 --> 00:20:54.569 with comic books has a dollar bin and 00:20:54.609 --> 00:20:56.451 those are always a great place to start 00:20:56.811 --> 00:20:58.792 and for a bargain at that a buck 00:20:58.813 --> 00:21:02.375 for a comic book that's granted the price 00:21:02.395 --> 00:21:02.757 is now 00:21:03.882 --> 00:21:05.123 I think the only place that really hasn't 00:21:05.143 --> 00:21:06.865 changed the price that much is the 00:21:06.924 --> 00:21:09.548 original Spawn series from Image. 00:21:09.688 --> 00:21:11.150 I think they're still two ninety nine. 00:21:12.109 --> 00:21:12.829 But everybody else, 00:21:12.890 --> 00:21:14.530 I know some of the DC books are 00:21:14.570 --> 00:21:16.471 like seven ninety nine now or six ninety 00:21:16.511 --> 00:21:16.711 nine. 00:21:16.751 --> 00:21:18.791 So it's absolutely ridiculous how 00:21:19.452 --> 00:21:20.873 expensive they're getting. 00:21:21.133 --> 00:21:22.354 But again, 00:21:22.374 --> 00:21:23.693 they're still telling good stories. 00:21:23.713 --> 00:21:24.875 So people are still going to buy it 00:21:24.914 --> 00:21:27.135 because it is from DC or it is 00:21:27.175 --> 00:21:27.836 from Marvel. 00:21:28.355 --> 00:21:30.336 But for a lot, the Image Comics, 00:21:30.616 --> 00:21:31.257 Boom Studios, 00:21:31.277 --> 00:21:32.738 their prices are remaining the same and 00:21:32.778 --> 00:21:33.837 they're remaining steady. 00:21:34.337 --> 00:21:35.679 So those are still attainable and 00:21:35.699 --> 00:21:36.199 affordable. 00:21:37.531 --> 00:21:38.553 Yeah, that's a great question. 00:21:39.554 --> 00:21:41.596 Shout out to Cape Con too because this 00:21:41.616 --> 00:21:43.378 is one of the rare cons that I 00:21:43.419 --> 00:21:46.642 see where comic books are still a big 00:21:46.721 --> 00:21:47.303 focus. 00:21:47.762 --> 00:21:49.244 Normally when you go to Comic Cons, 00:21:50.026 --> 00:21:52.868 it's different stuff and the comic book 00:21:53.009 --> 00:21:54.431 isn't really as prevalent. 00:21:54.691 --> 00:21:56.592 but here i've seen them i've seen them 00:21:56.632 --> 00:21:59.753 all over all over the space so shout 00:21:59.794 --> 00:22:01.355 out to them for that because that is 00:22:01.394 --> 00:22:03.035 that is a great look to the comics 00:22:03.455 --> 00:22:05.517 and shout out to jeff too because you 00:22:05.537 --> 00:22:08.998 do some some some very underrated work man 00:22:09.058 --> 00:22:10.679 working with the with the indie comics 00:22:10.739 --> 00:22:11.759 working on the kickstarter 00:22:12.140 --> 00:22:14.000 I've found a couple of comics just 00:22:14.060 --> 00:22:14.921 watching his show. 00:22:14.941 --> 00:22:17.142 So if you do, man, 00:22:17.162 --> 00:22:19.442 subscribe to United States Department of 00:22:19.462 --> 00:22:21.583 Nerds, it is very much, 00:22:21.702 --> 00:22:23.663 you will find some great comics that come 00:22:23.703 --> 00:22:25.785 through there and have great stories. 00:22:25.944 --> 00:22:28.125 And their Kickstarter campaigns offer a 00:22:28.165 --> 00:22:28.486 lot. 00:22:28.506 --> 00:22:30.566 So that's great work too. 00:22:31.126 --> 00:22:32.886 So we got CJ in the chat with 00:22:32.946 --> 00:22:33.527 a question. 00:22:33.567 --> 00:22:36.828 Do you have a starter recommendation for 00:22:36.868 --> 00:22:39.229 the major genres, action, superhero, 00:22:39.269 --> 00:22:40.769 drama, romance, comedy? 00:22:42.246 --> 00:22:44.146 Um, let's see. 00:22:44.186 --> 00:22:44.887 Man. 00:22:44.928 --> 00:22:46.409 First of all, let me just say, CJ, 00:22:46.509 --> 00:22:47.828 I know you're driving home, bro. 00:22:47.848 --> 00:22:48.410 You better not be. 00:22:48.509 --> 00:22:49.230 We love the support. 00:22:49.250 --> 00:22:50.971 That's too much time for my guy. 00:22:51.050 --> 00:22:52.991 Unless you got a voice translator, 00:22:53.011 --> 00:22:53.633 you know what I'm saying? 00:22:53.873 --> 00:22:55.513 Bro, get where you need to get to, 00:22:55.554 --> 00:22:58.795 my guy. 00:22:58.835 --> 00:23:03.077 So this is going to be, 00:23:05.199 --> 00:23:06.599 I can give a list of books that 00:23:06.640 --> 00:23:07.619 I'm currently reading. 00:23:08.320 --> 00:23:10.001 Let me pull up my list because it's 00:23:10.021 --> 00:23:10.442 a list. 00:23:11.394 --> 00:23:12.395 While you look for one, 00:23:12.516 --> 00:23:14.137 I'm going to rattle off one off the 00:23:14.178 --> 00:23:14.877 top of my head. 00:23:14.897 --> 00:23:16.019 Go for it. 00:23:17.059 --> 00:23:20.863 I like the superhero genre. 00:23:22.125 --> 00:23:23.645 Because there's a little bit of everything 00:23:23.747 --> 00:23:26.309 integrated into it, right? 00:23:26.430 --> 00:23:27.951 Especially if you're starting- You better 00:23:28.031 --> 00:23:29.012 be safe, CJ. 00:23:30.755 --> 00:23:33.618 I would recommend going to start with 00:23:33.659 --> 00:23:36.342 Marvel if you're into the big stuff, 00:23:36.642 --> 00:23:38.724 because there's a lot of love triangles in 00:23:38.744 --> 00:23:41.028 there that are high key funny. 00:23:41.508 --> 00:23:44.672 yeah they're high key funny and there's a 00:23:44.711 --> 00:23:46.673 lot of pairings in there that are that 00:23:46.713 --> 00:23:48.976 are very interesting beyond what you see 00:23:49.017 --> 00:23:50.278 on the movie screen there's a lot of 00:23:50.317 --> 00:23:53.280 parents that that happen in the comics if 00:23:53.361 --> 00:23:55.303 i had to point anywhere i'd start with 00:23:55.324 --> 00:23:57.266 the uncanny x-men because that just 00:23:57.326 --> 00:23:59.448 branches off into a lot of different soap 00:23:59.508 --> 00:24:00.849 opera with superpowers yes so 00:24:03.211 --> 00:24:04.432 We'll get this started. 00:24:05.114 --> 00:24:06.694 I'll start with Thirty Days of Night, 00:24:07.234 --> 00:24:08.175 Fallen Sun, 00:24:08.215 --> 00:24:10.877 which is the follow-up to the movie Thirty 00:24:10.917 --> 00:24:11.558 Days of Night. 00:24:12.720 --> 00:24:14.000 It was a great read, 00:24:14.361 --> 00:24:16.001 and it's just a bloody mess, 00:24:16.041 --> 00:24:17.923 just like the movie was. 00:24:18.944 --> 00:24:19.785 For the kiddos, 00:24:20.346 --> 00:24:22.667 Adventure Time has a comic book. 00:24:23.406 --> 00:24:25.807 fantastic read really fun also rick and 00:24:25.847 --> 00:24:27.867 morty for the teenagers who are into rick 00:24:27.887 --> 00:24:29.769 and morty my son reads those although i 00:24:29.788 --> 00:24:31.669 will say i would get in on rick 00:24:31.689 --> 00:24:33.529 and morty now because in december the 00:24:33.569 --> 00:24:35.630 comic book is coming to an end i 00:24:35.670 --> 00:24:37.010 don't know if a new studio will pick 00:24:37.050 --> 00:24:39.230 it up yet but i do know for 00:24:39.270 --> 00:24:43.393 a fact that adventure time on on e-press 00:24:43.452 --> 00:24:47.153 will be coming to an end in december 00:24:47.253 --> 00:24:47.973 let's see here 00:24:51.257 --> 00:24:53.959 find another good one ah be not afraid 00:24:54.019 --> 00:24:57.402 is another horror book it's a similar to 00:24:57.442 --> 00:25:00.044 the omen or children of the corn and 00:25:00.104 --> 00:25:04.267 just another really really good book uh 00:25:04.346 --> 00:25:06.468 blood and thunder is really fun so if 00:25:06.488 --> 00:25:12.113 you're into uh sci-fi about a girl who 00:25:12.492 --> 00:25:14.494 a bounty hunter with a gun that talks 00:25:15.115 --> 00:25:17.376 and she's trying to recapture escaped 00:25:17.416 --> 00:25:18.837 convicts from a uh 00:25:19.846 --> 00:25:21.708 A planet that is a prison. 00:25:22.627 --> 00:25:23.548 That's a really fun one. 00:25:23.568 --> 00:25:27.911 And the gun in that book is hilarious. 00:25:27.931 --> 00:25:28.991 Catacombs of Torment, 00:25:29.031 --> 00:25:31.553 which is from Ani Press and EC Comets. 00:25:32.272 --> 00:25:35.255 It's basically an anthology of different 00:25:35.295 --> 00:25:37.135 horror stories from different authors and 00:25:38.876 --> 00:25:39.237 artists. 00:25:39.257 --> 00:25:39.977 That's a fun one. 00:25:40.136 --> 00:25:41.657 Creepshow is still going around if you're 00:25:41.678 --> 00:25:42.739 a fan of the Creepshow. 00:25:44.680 --> 00:25:45.480 Cul-de-sac. 00:25:48.040 --> 00:25:49.201 Man, this book is... 00:25:50.542 --> 00:25:52.163 So all those people living in the burbs, 00:25:52.203 --> 00:25:53.163 that's something for you. 00:25:53.243 --> 00:25:54.183 That's a horror book. 00:25:54.663 --> 00:25:55.964 I do read a lot of horror. 00:25:56.464 --> 00:25:57.325 But from DC, 00:25:57.404 --> 00:25:59.086 I will say the new DC KO has 00:25:59.125 --> 00:25:59.645 been good. 00:26:00.986 --> 00:26:04.146 DC's Zatanna has a new run right now 00:26:04.186 --> 00:26:04.686 going on. 00:26:06.327 --> 00:26:08.148 There's all the spawns are still going on. 00:26:08.229 --> 00:26:09.388 So you can literally, 00:26:09.929 --> 00:26:10.868 if you're into spawn, 00:26:10.888 --> 00:26:12.309 they have something for everybody right 00:26:12.349 --> 00:26:12.630 now. 00:26:13.509 --> 00:26:14.810 Escape is a really good one. 00:26:14.830 --> 00:26:15.871 It's about a war, 00:26:16.590 --> 00:26:19.092 but the people are animals. 00:26:20.188 --> 00:26:21.749 So it's literally like an animal trying to 00:26:21.788 --> 00:26:23.411 escape during the Vietnam War. 00:26:24.351 --> 00:26:25.271 So that one's kind of cool. 00:26:26.093 --> 00:26:29.035 As you talk about them, I'm adding them. 00:26:29.654 --> 00:26:30.516 This one's really good. 00:26:30.596 --> 00:26:32.057 Everything dead and dying. 00:26:32.557 --> 00:26:34.699 So it's basically the Oregon Trail with 00:26:34.759 --> 00:26:35.319 zombies. 00:26:36.480 --> 00:26:37.981 And it's absolutely awesome. 00:26:38.001 --> 00:26:39.001 I like that premise. 00:26:39.202 --> 00:26:40.463 You had me at zombies. 00:26:40.523 --> 00:26:42.664 And then Exquisite Corpses again by James 00:26:42.704 --> 00:26:43.086 Tinian. 00:26:43.834 --> 00:26:44.534 Basically this, 00:26:44.773 --> 00:26:48.174 so how this story is going, 00:26:48.296 --> 00:26:50.796 James Tenney and the creators of the comic 00:26:50.816 --> 00:26:54.156 book are literally playing a board game to 00:26:54.198 --> 00:26:57.338 determine which of their main characters 00:26:57.398 --> 00:27:00.640 will die in the next issue of the 00:27:00.680 --> 00:27:01.319 comic book. 00:27:02.160 --> 00:27:02.920 It's really dope. 00:27:03.181 --> 00:27:04.601 James Tenney and Michael Walsh, 00:27:05.340 --> 00:27:07.362 fantastic on that book. 00:27:07.382 --> 00:27:10.262 Let's see. 00:27:11.823 --> 00:27:13.442 I just did a big backlog of comic 00:27:13.462 --> 00:27:15.084 books here recently, 00:27:15.144 --> 00:27:17.084 so I got a lot of stuff going 00:27:17.144 --> 00:27:17.683 on right here. 00:27:18.423 --> 00:27:19.144 Hello, Darkness, 00:27:19.163 --> 00:27:21.265 which is an anthology horror series from 00:27:22.144 --> 00:27:22.964 Boom Studios. 00:27:23.005 --> 00:27:24.326 It's also a lot of stuff in there 00:27:24.365 --> 00:27:24.945 by R.L. 00:27:24.986 --> 00:27:25.445 Stine. 00:27:25.865 --> 00:27:27.665 It's really based off his work, 00:27:27.726 --> 00:27:31.507 and it's really, really good. 00:27:31.586 --> 00:27:33.146 Anything from Ghost Machine, 00:27:33.787 --> 00:27:35.307 talking like Rook Exodus. 00:27:38.188 --> 00:27:38.867 What else is in there? 00:27:38.907 --> 00:27:39.308 Geiger. 00:27:42.076 --> 00:27:46.681 Hornsby and Halo, Junkyard Joe, anything. 00:27:46.840 --> 00:27:49.262 And I do mean anything from Ghost Machine. 00:27:49.824 --> 00:27:50.484 Jeff Johns, 00:27:50.505 --> 00:27:51.945 who's a brilliant writer who worked on 00:27:51.986 --> 00:27:53.126 Batman back in the day, 00:27:53.788 --> 00:27:55.128 is the main writer over there. 00:27:55.169 --> 00:27:55.589 It's his... 00:27:57.469 --> 00:27:58.648 His promotion, basically, 00:27:59.150 --> 00:28:01.069 with Ghost Machine. 00:28:01.690 --> 00:28:03.691 Phenomenal stuff coming from those guys 00:28:03.750 --> 00:28:04.131 over there. 00:28:04.510 --> 00:28:06.231 If you're a big fan of Invincible, 00:28:06.932 --> 00:28:08.492 although the comic book may not still be 00:28:08.553 --> 00:28:08.913 going, 00:28:09.113 --> 00:28:10.614 you can still get the compendiums for 00:28:10.634 --> 00:28:10.933 that. 00:28:11.334 --> 00:28:13.153 But currently, Battle Beast, 00:28:13.875 --> 00:28:15.194 who's one of everybody's favorite 00:28:15.234 --> 00:28:16.415 characters from that series, 00:28:16.476 --> 00:28:18.415 has his own comic book run going on 00:28:18.516 --> 00:28:19.115 right now. 00:28:20.057 --> 00:28:20.136 Nice. 00:28:20.156 --> 00:28:22.397 And that one has been really good and 00:28:22.577 --> 00:28:23.278 really fun. 00:28:25.241 --> 00:28:26.403 Another one from Boom Studios, 00:28:26.442 --> 00:28:30.125 if you're into witch hunting and monster 00:28:30.165 --> 00:28:31.287 hunting and stuff like that, 00:28:31.928 --> 00:28:33.568 it's by Teenie Howard. 00:28:33.848 --> 00:28:35.931 It's called A Marian Heretic. 00:28:36.811 --> 00:28:38.292 And it's basically about a nun who hunts 00:28:38.373 --> 00:28:39.433 witches and monsters. 00:28:40.214 --> 00:28:42.376 And it's been a very fun series. 00:28:42.936 --> 00:28:44.458 And it's only one issue out right now, 00:28:44.478 --> 00:28:46.019 so you can literally go pick up issue 00:28:46.220 --> 00:28:48.201 one and get ready for issue two. 00:28:48.902 --> 00:28:50.884 And that's just an absolutely fun one. 00:28:53.292 --> 00:28:54.634 I think that's a good roundup. 00:28:54.653 --> 00:28:55.213 What's up, Rob? 00:28:55.233 --> 00:28:55.834 What up, Rob? 00:28:57.855 --> 00:28:58.434 His question, 00:28:58.474 --> 00:28:59.816 how do you handle it when you find 00:28:59.915 --> 00:29:01.496 a comic you find interesting, 00:29:01.915 --> 00:29:02.977 but a few mags in, 00:29:02.997 --> 00:29:05.176 you find out that it's been discontinued? 00:29:05.376 --> 00:29:06.357 Do you finish the run, 00:29:06.397 --> 00:29:08.198 or do you just let it go? 00:29:08.258 --> 00:29:09.199 If I can find it, 00:29:09.338 --> 00:29:09.999 I will buy it. 00:29:11.126 --> 00:29:11.686 And that's just me. 00:29:11.807 --> 00:29:13.808 I can't just leave it incomplete. 00:29:14.169 --> 00:29:16.230 I don't think I've run into a situation 00:29:16.329 --> 00:29:18.372 like that recently where I was just like, 00:29:18.471 --> 00:29:21.153 you got to be kidding me because you 00:29:21.173 --> 00:29:22.054 nine times out of ten, 00:29:22.074 --> 00:29:25.016 you can go to the publisher's website and 00:29:25.076 --> 00:29:27.337 get the rest of the series or you 00:29:27.357 --> 00:29:28.377 just do what I like to do. 00:29:28.417 --> 00:29:30.900 And that's just drive around and go to 00:29:30.920 --> 00:29:33.221 different comic book shops and hunt it the 00:29:33.260 --> 00:29:33.862 old fashioned way, 00:29:33.902 --> 00:29:35.042 which is always a lot of fun because 00:29:35.063 --> 00:29:36.462 you may discover something you've never 00:29:36.503 --> 00:29:37.003 seen before. 00:29:38.278 --> 00:29:38.979 I would just say, 00:29:39.138 --> 00:29:40.319 and this is just me, 00:29:41.060 --> 00:29:44.423 if you pick up a magazine, a comic, 00:29:44.784 --> 00:29:45.384 and it's good, 00:29:45.444 --> 00:29:47.586 and you see online that they stopped it, 00:29:48.548 --> 00:29:50.670 I wouldn't stop buying it because you're 00:29:50.690 --> 00:29:52.010 still supporting the creator. 00:29:52.030 --> 00:29:53.231 You're still supporting those people that 00:29:53.271 --> 00:29:55.053 did that work. 00:29:55.094 --> 00:29:57.115 Nowadays, you get enough people on board. 00:29:57.255 --> 00:29:58.537 You make enough noise. 00:29:58.576 --> 00:29:59.718 People will pick it back up. 00:29:59.758 --> 00:30:01.499 They'll find another publisher or somebody 00:30:01.519 --> 00:30:02.840 to support them and get it out there. 00:30:02.861 --> 00:30:04.442 I've been seeing a lot of that lately. 00:30:04.602 --> 00:30:06.443 yeah i mean it's it's the same thing 00:30:06.463 --> 00:30:09.046 with with anything out there man like if 00:30:09.086 --> 00:30:11.568 you get enough fans on board um you 00:30:11.588 --> 00:30:14.171 know people passionate about it and me i'm 00:30:14.211 --> 00:30:16.073 a sucker for supporting man somebody took 00:30:16.113 --> 00:30:18.315 this chance to draw this and and put 00:30:18.355 --> 00:30:20.356 their their idea put it out there for 00:30:20.376 --> 00:30:21.938 the masses and um 00:30:22.959 --> 00:30:23.940 It's been discontinued, 00:30:23.960 --> 00:30:25.381 but if there's still issues out there, 00:30:25.401 --> 00:30:27.682 I combine support and promote things like 00:30:27.721 --> 00:30:27.922 that. 00:30:28.021 --> 00:30:29.883 I'm ten toes down for it. 00:30:30.002 --> 00:30:32.503 There's no different than in anime. 00:30:32.523 --> 00:30:34.265 You have manga that gets discontinued, 00:30:34.285 --> 00:30:35.165 and you're just like, 00:30:35.185 --> 00:30:36.426 why finish watching it? 00:30:36.507 --> 00:30:37.406 Why finish reading it? 00:30:37.487 --> 00:30:38.167 Because... 00:30:39.008 --> 00:30:41.328 the author wants to complete his story, 00:30:41.368 --> 00:30:41.868 her story. 00:30:41.909 --> 00:30:45.150 So go give them that respect to finish 00:30:45.170 --> 00:30:45.650 that story. 00:30:45.670 --> 00:30:46.970 I'm still looking for a few issues of 00:30:47.029 --> 00:30:48.891 Banana Fish myself for my daughter. 00:30:49.691 --> 00:30:51.832 But if I can give one more recommendation, 00:30:51.892 --> 00:30:54.491 it's a book by Aubrey Sitterson. 00:30:54.551 --> 00:30:55.853 It's called Free Planet. 00:30:56.613 --> 00:30:59.075 And it's basically about a planet that 00:30:59.115 --> 00:31:00.875 goes to war to get its freedom. 00:31:01.376 --> 00:31:02.678 They win their freedom. 00:31:02.718 --> 00:31:05.239 But this is more about what it takes 00:31:05.278 --> 00:31:08.781 to maintain and keep that freedom now that 00:31:08.842 --> 00:31:09.482 you have it. 00:31:10.143 --> 00:31:11.963 And I think it's like seven or eight 00:31:12.044 --> 00:31:13.085 issues deep right now. 00:31:13.125 --> 00:31:15.926 But it has been a phenomenal, 00:31:16.126 --> 00:31:17.248 phenomenal read. 00:31:17.709 --> 00:31:20.309 And I cannot recommend that one enough. 00:31:21.230 --> 00:31:22.352 But if you want to talk about some 00:31:22.412 --> 00:31:24.913 real indie type of comic books... 00:31:25.693 --> 00:31:30.777 Let me pull up my YouTube studio real 00:31:30.817 --> 00:31:31.116 quick, 00:31:32.157 --> 00:31:34.338 and we can go through some of the 00:31:34.439 --> 00:31:35.940 interviews that I have done. 00:31:37.279 --> 00:31:38.881 The most recent one I did was Monday, 00:31:38.941 --> 00:31:40.321 literally just before we left here. 00:31:40.402 --> 00:31:44.223 I did Powerscape with a guy named Donald 00:31:44.684 --> 00:31:47.445 Thomas Capello, or Donald Toms Capello. 00:31:48.767 --> 00:31:50.387 Very fun comic book sitting there. 00:31:52.458 --> 00:31:53.878 out what century it is set in but 00:31:53.999 --> 00:31:56.780 basically the world has come to an end 00:31:57.021 --> 00:31:59.824 as we know it in every well not 00:31:59.884 --> 00:32:01.204 every major city but a lot of the 00:32:01.305 --> 00:32:03.286 bigger major cities now live in these 00:32:03.467 --> 00:32:06.608 bubbles and it is those cities are run 00:32:06.648 --> 00:32:09.832 by an alien power source that we now 00:32:09.872 --> 00:32:13.914 must compete in a game of powerscape to 00:32:14.095 --> 00:32:16.717 earn the energy cores to power our planet 00:32:16.737 --> 00:32:16.797 and 00:32:17.946 --> 00:32:19.689 So it is something really, really cool, 00:32:19.969 --> 00:32:22.112 something different and unique that's out 00:32:22.152 --> 00:32:24.134 there for you. 00:32:24.173 --> 00:32:26.436 If you just Google PowerScape comic book, 00:32:26.958 --> 00:32:28.078 I'm sure you'll find it or you can 00:32:28.118 --> 00:32:30.682 go to Kickstarter and find it that way. 00:32:30.883 --> 00:32:32.284 That one was really fun. 00:32:33.506 --> 00:32:36.429 Let's see what else. 00:32:36.690 --> 00:32:36.750 Ah. 00:32:37.500 --> 00:32:40.103 Memoirs of the Morbid, Orange Edition. 00:32:40.863 --> 00:32:43.244 So basically this is like an anthology, 00:32:43.805 --> 00:32:46.126 very similar to Creepshow or something 00:32:46.166 --> 00:32:46.666 like that. 00:32:47.528 --> 00:32:48.949 And it's got a little bit of something 00:32:48.969 --> 00:32:49.429 for everybody. 00:32:49.449 --> 00:32:50.670 So I think it's three or four stories 00:32:50.710 --> 00:32:51.089 in there. 00:32:51.770 --> 00:32:53.250 And before each story, 00:32:53.291 --> 00:32:55.252 there's a segment with a guy similar to 00:32:55.292 --> 00:32:57.394 the creep from Creepshow who kind of gives 00:32:57.413 --> 00:32:59.776 you a funny like lead into the comic 00:32:59.816 --> 00:33:00.016 book. 00:33:00.036 --> 00:33:03.278 And it's really fun. 00:33:03.397 --> 00:33:04.479 And let's see here. 00:33:05.759 --> 00:33:07.460 Quick Wire number one is about to come 00:33:07.539 --> 00:33:10.141 out from Apogee Comets. 00:33:10.862 --> 00:33:12.682 That was another really good one. 00:33:12.702 --> 00:33:14.023 It won't be on a Kickstarter. 00:33:14.044 --> 00:33:16.305 You'll be able to go to Apogee's website 00:33:16.904 --> 00:33:17.965 and just order it straight from their 00:33:18.006 --> 00:33:18.326 website. 00:33:18.346 --> 00:33:21.728 They have a bunch of indie superheroes. 00:33:21.768 --> 00:33:23.209 That one's a lot of fun as well. 00:33:23.888 --> 00:33:24.449 The Plague, 00:33:24.990 --> 00:33:27.250 which I know you fell in love with. 00:33:27.490 --> 00:33:30.573 It takes place in New Orleans after 00:33:32.233 --> 00:33:33.894 basically something similar to COVID 00:33:33.934 --> 00:33:34.394 happens. 00:33:35.588 --> 00:33:38.410 And the big farm is trying to clean 00:33:38.470 --> 00:33:39.171 up a mess. 00:33:39.931 --> 00:33:41.872 And one of their security guards basically 00:33:41.932 --> 00:33:43.112 got in their way. 00:33:44.073 --> 00:33:46.093 So they basically take him out into the 00:33:46.153 --> 00:33:48.074 woods and they plan to kill him. 00:33:48.674 --> 00:33:49.075 However, 00:33:49.115 --> 00:33:51.935 the swamp gives him another chance to 00:33:52.855 --> 00:33:54.457 basically correct the wrong. 00:33:55.037 --> 00:33:56.077 So that one's really cool. 00:33:56.538 --> 00:33:58.278 And that one's still active on Kickstarter 00:33:58.318 --> 00:33:58.659 right now. 00:33:58.679 --> 00:34:00.179 So you can still get in on that 00:34:00.259 --> 00:34:00.940 one and support it. 00:34:02.671 --> 00:34:03.872 Then I know one of your favorites, 00:34:04.211 --> 00:34:04.832 Dark Pink. 00:34:05.031 --> 00:34:07.292 It's not what you guys think. 00:34:07.512 --> 00:34:09.773 It's really not. 00:34:10.134 --> 00:34:11.175 He pointed at me. 00:34:11.195 --> 00:34:12.335 Your favorite, Dark Pink. 00:34:14.655 --> 00:34:16.077 It is not that, Dark Pink. 00:34:16.436 --> 00:34:17.518 I will promise you. 00:34:18.418 --> 00:34:18.958 Basically, 00:34:19.018 --> 00:34:23.920 it's about a rich kid from the UK 00:34:23.960 --> 00:34:26.101 who basically gets into a little bit of 00:34:26.141 --> 00:34:26.461 trouble. 00:34:27.284 --> 00:34:29.786 And then her parents move them to New 00:34:29.826 --> 00:34:30.186 York. 00:34:31.327 --> 00:34:33.487 And then she finishes school there. 00:34:34.248 --> 00:34:36.130 And then her parents are like, okay, 00:34:36.369 --> 00:34:37.371 you're through college. 00:34:37.411 --> 00:34:38.831 We're going to take you this vacation. 00:34:38.911 --> 00:34:40.492 And they go down to New Orleans. 00:34:41.353 --> 00:34:43.275 Something happens to her parents in New 00:34:43.355 --> 00:34:43.735 Orleans. 00:34:43.775 --> 00:34:46.556 And now she basically sells what she has, 00:34:46.617 --> 00:34:47.617 pass everything up. 00:34:48.117 --> 00:34:50.599 And she goes to New Orleans and tries 00:34:50.699 --> 00:34:52.760 to, she basically starts a business. 00:34:54.211 --> 00:34:57.454 a private investigation firm to basically 00:34:57.735 --> 00:34:58.576 find her parents. 00:34:59.737 --> 00:35:00.858 It's a really fun one. 00:35:01.478 --> 00:35:04.601 It's done by Christopher Ford and it's got 00:35:04.621 --> 00:35:05.621 some amazing, 00:35:05.762 --> 00:35:07.722 amazing artists on that book. 00:35:07.742 --> 00:35:09.405 You can still get in on Kickstarter on 00:35:09.425 --> 00:35:10.806 that one and do a late pledge, 00:35:11.505 --> 00:35:14.369 but they have all been just like really 00:35:14.528 --> 00:35:15.670 phenomenal books. 00:35:16.090 --> 00:35:20.634 Let's see in our dreams awake. 00:35:22.065 --> 00:35:23.907 Issue number three is basically about a 00:35:23.967 --> 00:35:27.769 guy who goes to sleep in one world 00:35:28.570 --> 00:35:30.251 and wakes up in another world. 00:35:30.711 --> 00:35:34.054 It is written by two different writers and 00:35:34.094 --> 00:35:35.635 drawn by two different artists. 00:35:35.655 --> 00:35:38.697 So one world's a futuristic cyberpunk era 00:35:39.159 --> 00:35:39.498 type, 00:35:40.039 --> 00:35:42.902 and the other one is like the Renaissance 00:35:43.001 --> 00:35:43.222 age. 00:35:44.043 --> 00:35:45.923 So he'll literally go to sleep in one, 00:35:46.804 --> 00:35:47.985 wake up in the other one, 00:35:48.972 --> 00:35:51.134 Both of them are both very different. 00:35:51.434 --> 00:35:53.534 Oh, like Moon Knight. 00:35:53.614 --> 00:35:55.076 No, it's the same guy. 00:35:55.836 --> 00:35:56.896 No different personalities. 00:35:56.936 --> 00:35:58.518 His personality is still kind of the same. 00:35:58.557 --> 00:36:00.239 He looks a little different in each world, 00:36:01.000 --> 00:36:02.440 but he's still the same dude. 00:36:03.121 --> 00:36:03.981 Okay. 00:36:04.161 --> 00:36:06.063 And another one of my favorites was 00:36:06.322 --> 00:36:07.903 Shock-Headed Peter by E.B. 00:36:07.943 --> 00:36:10.726 Coogan and Jessica Silvetti. 00:36:11.427 --> 00:36:14.108 That one is a volume two of a... 00:36:17.878 --> 00:36:18.659 It's not a comic book. 00:36:18.760 --> 00:36:21.221 It's a graphic novel. 00:36:21.260 --> 00:36:21.860 Graphic novel. 00:36:21.900 --> 00:36:22.240 Thank you. 00:36:22.621 --> 00:36:22.802 Yeah. 00:36:23.161 --> 00:36:23.882 Brain fart there. 00:36:23.902 --> 00:36:24.541 Apologies. 00:36:25.443 --> 00:36:26.762 But that one's a lot of fun. 00:36:26.842 --> 00:36:28.384 It's basically old German. 00:36:28.884 --> 00:36:32.905 What are those called? 00:36:33.065 --> 00:36:33.206 Oh. 00:36:35.626 --> 00:36:36.487 Folktale, thank you. 00:36:36.947 --> 00:36:37.847 My man in the back. 00:36:38.789 --> 00:36:41.291 And they basically modernized it and 00:36:41.331 --> 00:36:42.831 brought it into a new and different 00:36:42.871 --> 00:36:43.213 setting. 00:36:43.293 --> 00:36:44.773 It's a lot of fun. 00:36:45.675 --> 00:36:47.235 And I can't recommend that one enough, 00:36:47.255 --> 00:36:47.436 too. 00:36:47.476 --> 00:36:49.038 I think it just funded as well. 00:36:49.358 --> 00:36:51.179 And I think I've done, this year alone, 00:36:51.300 --> 00:36:54.682 I have done twenty Kickstarters 00:36:55.903 --> 00:36:56.523 interviews. 00:36:57.425 --> 00:36:58.885 And I just got emailed today for one 00:36:58.925 --> 00:36:59.085 more. 00:36:59.795 --> 00:37:03.081 So the business is booming and I'm here 00:37:03.101 --> 00:37:05.264 to support it in whatever way I can. 00:37:05.324 --> 00:37:08.268 And giving them a spotlight is basically 00:37:08.309 --> 00:37:09.911 what the United States department of nurse 00:37:09.931 --> 00:37:10.592 has become. 00:37:11.315 --> 00:37:13.197 And I will hopefully continue to do it 00:37:13.277 --> 00:37:13.498 until. 00:37:15.407 --> 00:37:17.168 I can't because it's a lot of fun 00:37:17.690 --> 00:37:19.070 helping those guys out and putting a 00:37:19.090 --> 00:37:21.012 spotlight on them. 00:37:21.853 --> 00:37:24.456 Shades of Beyond, The Wall of Sleep. 00:37:24.717 --> 00:37:26.519 Can I shout out an indie creator real 00:37:26.539 --> 00:37:26.719 quick? 00:37:27.039 --> 00:37:27.300 Yes. 00:37:28.222 --> 00:37:29.963 Which I found them at a Comic Con 00:37:30.905 --> 00:37:32.526 about – 00:37:32.286 --> 00:37:33.586 ten years back almost. 00:37:34.248 --> 00:37:35.628 And it's Sigma Comics. 00:37:36.809 --> 00:37:39.949 And all of their comics that they write 00:37:40.809 --> 00:37:43.510 are about animal, 00:37:44.110 --> 00:37:46.652 like superheroes who save animals. 00:37:47.771 --> 00:37:49.132 Not humans, just animals. 00:37:49.193 --> 00:37:51.213 But a hundred percent of their, 00:37:51.554 --> 00:37:52.233 not a hundred percent. 00:37:52.594 --> 00:37:54.596 about eighty percent of their proceeds 00:37:55.036 --> 00:37:56.617 that they get from their kickstarter 00:37:56.637 --> 00:38:00.061 campaigns they donate it to charities that 00:38:00.101 --> 00:38:02.023 help out uh animals oh no that's a 00:38:02.043 --> 00:38:03.364 good shout out right there i like that 00:38:03.443 --> 00:38:06.827 yes they're really dope um and they they 00:38:06.867 --> 00:38:09.230 work with people like mike baron if you 00:38:09.250 --> 00:38:11.251 know he's he's behind the flash and 00:38:11.291 --> 00:38:13.313 punisher yeah so they they work with a 00:38:13.353 --> 00:38:15.675 couple of a couple of big name uh 00:38:15.715 --> 00:38:16.496 writers but 00:38:17.836 --> 00:38:19.177 I want to make sure I give them 00:38:19.217 --> 00:38:20.878 that spotlight because I've been following 00:38:20.898 --> 00:38:22.179 them for a while. 00:38:22.199 --> 00:38:23.460 I've been following them for a while. 00:38:24.079 --> 00:38:28.061 They are a very dope comic studio and 00:38:28.121 --> 00:38:28.983 what a great cause. 00:38:29.422 --> 00:38:30.742 I got another question here. 00:38:31.543 --> 00:38:34.344 Sigma Comics. 00:38:34.425 --> 00:38:35.885 How did you find, 00:38:35.945 --> 00:38:38.146 learn about these indie comics and how do 00:38:38.166 --> 00:38:39.588 you recommend others find, 00:38:39.688 --> 00:38:40.827 learn of indie comics? 00:38:41.548 --> 00:38:44.269 For me, it was... 00:38:45.503 --> 00:38:49.364 basically through Instagram, Blue Sky, 00:38:49.684 --> 00:38:50.465 Facebook, 00:38:51.266 --> 00:38:53.367 and just do a quick search on those 00:38:53.387 --> 00:38:54.927 platforms for indie comics. 00:38:55.648 --> 00:38:57.949 And for me, like I said earlier, 00:38:58.969 --> 00:39:02.610 I was kind of having an identity crisis 00:39:02.670 --> 00:39:04.492 at USDN where I really didn't know what 00:39:04.532 --> 00:39:05.271 I wanted to do, 00:39:05.893 --> 00:39:06.932 but I kind of knew I wanted to 00:39:06.972 --> 00:39:07.112 do, 00:39:07.393 --> 00:39:10.574 I was doing a lot of like weekly 00:39:10.614 --> 00:39:11.916 comic books, like, hey, 00:39:11.936 --> 00:39:14.356 this is what I'm reading and stuff like 00:39:14.396 --> 00:39:14.697 that. 00:39:15.503 --> 00:39:16.445 And one day I was like, you know, 00:39:16.465 --> 00:39:18.228 I want to get into interviewing comic 00:39:18.248 --> 00:39:22.293 creators with no intent to really focus in 00:39:22.333 --> 00:39:24.215 on indie comics specifically. 00:39:24.235 --> 00:39:25.516 It just kind of happened that way. 00:39:26.358 --> 00:39:28.480 And it all started with one guy who 00:39:28.500 --> 00:39:31.784 gave me a chance to interview him and 00:39:31.844 --> 00:39:32.445 work with him. 00:39:33.481 --> 00:39:35.782 give him ideas as well on his comic 00:39:36.422 --> 00:39:37.844 and it's really cool because one of the 00:39:37.903 --> 00:39:39.603 ideas i gave him was one of his 00:39:39.704 --> 00:39:42.646 biggest sellers for that campaign so i'm 00:39:42.846 --> 00:39:45.067 kind of it's one of my prouder moments 00:39:45.166 --> 00:39:47.226 of of doing this is giving him that 00:39:47.367 --> 00:39:50.188 idea and him running with it and it 00:39:50.208 --> 00:39:53.750 becoming one of his bigger sellers so 00:39:53.769 --> 00:39:56.510 that's how i learn about them and like 00:39:56.550 --> 00:39:59.632 i was saying earlier i do promote monthly 00:40:00.251 --> 00:40:01.333 like a few times a month 00:40:02.041 --> 00:40:04.983 I have a calendar and I post my 00:40:05.023 --> 00:40:07.204 calendar to a bunch of indie Facebook 00:40:07.224 --> 00:40:10.744 groups on Instagram, on Blue Sky. 00:40:11.065 --> 00:40:13.545 And I follow a lot of indie creators 00:40:14.525 --> 00:40:16.867 and I follow a lot of mainstream creators 00:40:16.907 --> 00:40:17.387 as well. 00:40:18.288 --> 00:40:20.467 And I get emails from them. 00:40:20.847 --> 00:40:22.068 Like I said, DMs. 00:40:23.615 --> 00:40:26.099 They literally come into me and go, hey, 00:40:26.760 --> 00:40:28.362 can we come on your podcast and talk 00:40:28.382 --> 00:40:29.623 about our new project? 00:40:29.903 --> 00:40:31.365 And I've not had one where I was 00:40:31.405 --> 00:40:34.088 just like, no, that was not my style. 00:40:34.510 --> 00:40:36.793 I always try to give everyone a shot 00:40:36.853 --> 00:40:37.594 and a chance. 00:40:38.855 --> 00:40:41.898 So that's how I did it. 00:40:43.503 --> 00:40:44.965 Before USDM, 00:40:44.985 --> 00:40:46.766 mine was the old-fashioned way, right? 00:40:46.847 --> 00:40:50.130 Going to a comic shop, seeing it, 00:40:50.570 --> 00:40:52.012 looking very interested in it, 00:40:53.134 --> 00:40:55.376 or going around a con and seeing somebody 00:40:55.896 --> 00:40:57.259 pushing something I didn't know, 00:40:57.778 --> 00:40:59.019 asking them what it was about, 00:40:59.561 --> 00:41:00.382 and finding it. 00:41:00.481 --> 00:41:00.621 So... 00:41:01.726 --> 00:41:02.628 Yeah, a hundred percent. 00:41:02.688 --> 00:41:03.969 Just like anything else, 00:41:04.570 --> 00:41:05.690 just visit your comic shop. 00:41:05.851 --> 00:41:07.293 And then the people who work in there 00:41:07.313 --> 00:41:07.932 are knowledgeable. 00:41:08.393 --> 00:41:09.755 And like we were talking about earlier, 00:41:09.775 --> 00:41:11.235 you'll be looking around browsing. 00:41:11.255 --> 00:41:11.737 They'll come up. 00:41:12.157 --> 00:41:12.978 Hey, what are you into? 00:41:13.619 --> 00:41:14.259 You let them know. 00:41:14.278 --> 00:41:15.000 And they'll be like, Hey, 00:41:15.039 --> 00:41:16.641 I got just a thing and point you 00:41:16.661 --> 00:41:17.342 in that direction. 00:41:17.362 --> 00:41:17.643 So yeah, 00:41:18.603 --> 00:41:20.423 I do have a question and I know 00:41:20.443 --> 00:41:22.063 he was talking about identity crisis and 00:41:22.083 --> 00:41:23.443 stuff like that I love that he picked 00:41:23.463 --> 00:41:25.664 up the comics and stuff like when somebody 00:41:25.704 --> 00:41:27.125 finds their passion and goes after it is 00:41:27.144 --> 00:41:28.885 cool yes don't but I don't know if 00:41:28.905 --> 00:41:31.847 you've seen the logo for my man's podcast 00:41:31.967 --> 00:41:34.686 Star Wars guy yeah I got a question 00:41:34.706 --> 00:41:37.568 for you you see the landscape you see 00:41:37.608 --> 00:41:40.009 where Star Wars is that yes as a 00:41:40.068 --> 00:41:40.489 property 00:41:41.135 --> 00:41:42.215 A lot of ups and downs, 00:41:42.295 --> 00:41:43.655 more downs than ups recently. 00:41:43.755 --> 00:41:44.175 Oh, yeah. 00:41:44.235 --> 00:41:44.835 Here we go. 00:41:45.976 --> 00:41:47.016 Now we're about to have fun. 00:41:47.257 --> 00:41:49.898 What do you think, or what direction? 00:41:50.157 --> 00:41:52.018 We give you, hey, Disney hits you up. 00:41:52.159 --> 00:41:54.539 Jeff, we're fumbling the ball here. 00:41:54.659 --> 00:41:55.300 Yeah, they are. 00:41:55.519 --> 00:41:56.860 How do we get? 00:41:56.920 --> 00:41:57.900 It ain't a we fumbling. 00:41:57.920 --> 00:42:00.242 You already fumbled the ball. 00:42:00.262 --> 00:42:02.242 Fourth quarter, two-minute warning. 00:42:03.043 --> 00:42:03.902 We need a touchdown, 00:42:03.922 --> 00:42:05.083 two-point conversion to win. 00:42:05.603 --> 00:42:06.824 How do we get back in the game, 00:42:06.844 --> 00:42:07.085 Jeff? 00:42:07.125 --> 00:42:08.184 What's the move we make? 00:42:08.972 --> 00:42:12.135 You pull your heads out of your asses. 00:42:12.175 --> 00:42:13.677 You go to the books. 00:42:14.056 --> 00:42:15.338 Yes, I said the books. 00:42:15.878 --> 00:42:17.099 And or the comic books. 00:42:17.139 --> 00:42:18.679 And you go to the Old Republic. 00:42:19.701 --> 00:42:21.442 Or you go to the New Republic. 00:42:21.983 --> 00:42:23.364 Because both of them, 00:42:23.864 --> 00:42:26.565 both comic book and written book, 00:42:27.186 --> 00:42:28.588 are some of the best reads you will 00:42:28.748 --> 00:42:30.728 ever, ever read. 00:42:31.190 --> 00:42:32.831 And they are some of the best Star 00:42:32.871 --> 00:42:34.172 Wars stories out there. 00:42:35.148 --> 00:42:37.913 The War of Nihil is one of the 00:42:38.052 --> 00:42:39.675 best stories you will read from the Old 00:42:39.715 --> 00:42:40.237 Republic. 00:42:41.257 --> 00:42:42.280 So that is what you do. 00:42:42.780 --> 00:42:44.083 Disney, if you're listening, 00:42:44.844 --> 00:42:48.351 that's how you unfuck Star Wars. 00:42:48.371 --> 00:42:48.530 So... 00:42:49.693 --> 00:42:50.833 Like, I agree, you know, 00:42:50.873 --> 00:42:52.514 knowing some of the Old Republic stuff, 00:42:52.594 --> 00:42:53.994 obviously playing Knights of the Old 00:42:54.034 --> 00:42:55.434 Republic, you start seeing, oh, 00:42:55.454 --> 00:42:56.954 there's Revan, there's Malak, 00:42:56.994 --> 00:42:57.735 and all this other stuff. 00:42:57.755 --> 00:42:59.635 You're like, I would love to see this, 00:42:59.795 --> 00:42:59.996 right? 00:43:00.016 --> 00:43:00.757 Yeah. 00:43:00.856 --> 00:43:01.197 But, like, 00:43:01.297 --> 00:43:02.856 these new generations who's just stuck on 00:43:02.896 --> 00:43:03.757 the Skywalker stuff. 00:43:03.797 --> 00:43:05.197 Like, Skywalker's a big name, 00:43:05.398 --> 00:43:07.099 and now you're introducing people who 00:43:07.219 --> 00:43:08.458 aren't Skywalker and stuff. 00:43:08.498 --> 00:43:09.760 You're like, hey, who are these guys? 00:43:09.960 --> 00:43:11.199 How do you promote that to a new 00:43:11.219 --> 00:43:11.579 audience? 00:43:12.340 --> 00:43:13.860 If you want to continue the Skywalker 00:43:13.880 --> 00:43:16.081 stuff, you literally just go to the books. 00:43:17.030 --> 00:43:17.811 Luke did. 00:43:18.552 --> 00:43:21.273 So they never tapped into Luke's full 00:43:21.472 --> 00:43:22.612 power potential. 00:43:23.673 --> 00:43:27.034 This guy controlled a whole armada while 00:43:27.114 --> 00:43:28.235 sitting at his house. 00:43:29.155 --> 00:43:30.195 Didn't even leave his house. 00:43:30.675 --> 00:43:33.197 He just entered into his deep state and 00:43:33.317 --> 00:43:35.057 literally controlled a whole war, 00:43:35.518 --> 00:43:36.458 a whole armada, 00:43:36.538 --> 00:43:40.019 a fleet of starships using his psychic 00:43:40.039 --> 00:43:40.599 abilities. 00:43:41.059 --> 00:43:41.760 Yeah. 00:43:42.099 --> 00:43:43.300 Untapped. 00:43:44.329 --> 00:43:46.690 The dude was not to be reckoned with 00:43:46.891 --> 00:43:49.074 in the books and in the comic books. 00:43:49.994 --> 00:43:51.956 Not the hermit that was living on some 00:43:52.016 --> 00:43:54.139 planet drinking blue milk from a walrus. 00:43:55.440 --> 00:43:56.880 That is not Luke Skywalker. 00:43:58.021 --> 00:43:58.563 Follow on. 00:43:59.083 --> 00:44:00.425 Everybody sees Luke, right? 00:44:01.405 --> 00:44:02.626 And they'd see Mark Hamill. 00:44:02.706 --> 00:44:03.126 Obviously, 00:44:03.146 --> 00:44:04.449 he don't look like Luke anymore. 00:44:05.447 --> 00:44:07.568 are you okay obviously i don't know if 00:44:07.608 --> 00:44:09.628 you're a fan of this absolutely i think 00:44:09.728 --> 00:44:12.231 okay cool recast him yes mark hamill 00:44:12.271 --> 00:44:14.070 himself says if you want to continue the 00:44:14.110 --> 00:44:16.472 star wars saga with the the skywalker 00:44:16.492 --> 00:44:20.934 family he's like recast me it's okay the 00:44:20.994 --> 00:44:24.896 dude has made millions and again right 00:44:24.996 --> 00:44:27.318 you're not wrong bucky looks just like a 00:44:27.378 --> 00:44:28.179 young mark hamill 00:44:29.793 --> 00:44:31.195 And again, Mark Hamill has said, 00:44:31.536 --> 00:44:32.737 if you need to recast Luke, 00:44:32.777 --> 00:44:34.420 recast Luke as a younger actor. 00:44:34.721 --> 00:44:36.423 He's on board. 00:44:36.704 --> 00:44:37.766 And CJ hit it on the head. 00:44:37.806 --> 00:44:39.268 Dark Empire was really good. 00:44:39.789 --> 00:44:42.373 If they resurrect Palpatine one more time, 00:44:42.432 --> 00:44:43.414 I will lose my shit. 00:44:46.543 --> 00:44:47.302 Super clones, right? 00:44:47.402 --> 00:44:50.423 And there's nothing wrong with Grogu. 00:44:50.643 --> 00:44:52.085 I love that it's a new and fresh 00:44:52.105 --> 00:44:54.005 story with the Mandalorian and Grogu. 00:44:55.306 --> 00:44:56.967 I'm looking forward to seeing what they do 00:44:57.007 --> 00:44:59.268 with it after fumbling season three with 00:44:59.288 --> 00:44:59.788 the movie. 00:45:00.728 --> 00:45:02.349 So I'm actually excited about that. 00:45:02.409 --> 00:45:03.949 And that one may actually get me out 00:45:03.989 --> 00:45:05.630 of my house and into a movie theater. 00:45:06.570 --> 00:45:07.670 Good Star Wars movie. 00:45:07.831 --> 00:45:08.612 That's all it takes. 00:45:09.351 --> 00:45:09.972 Well, that ain't it. 00:45:09.992 --> 00:45:11.132 Rise of Skywalker didn't get you. 00:45:11.152 --> 00:45:11.512 I'm playing. 00:45:11.753 --> 00:45:12.373 Let's not do that. 00:45:12.452 --> 00:45:12.913 I'm sorry. 00:45:12.932 --> 00:45:13.614 I'm sorry. 00:45:15.690 --> 00:45:18.992 i'm sorry um but yeah outside of book 00:45:19.612 --> 00:45:21.672 all right so what are your thoughts on 00:45:21.713 --> 00:45:23.873 when they try to do something new aka 00:45:24.032 --> 00:45:26.673 acolyte uh i don't want to say so 00:45:26.713 --> 00:45:28.275 much book of boba fett but they start 00:45:28.295 --> 00:45:30.014 trying to do these these kind of side 00:45:30.054 --> 00:45:31.456 stories what do you feel about those 00:45:31.496 --> 00:45:33.195 there's a lot of really good stories out 00:45:33.235 --> 00:45:35.617 there books and comic book wise about boba 00:45:35.697 --> 00:45:39.438 fett that they could have used um the 00:45:39.557 --> 00:45:41.577 acolyte was a could have been the perfect 00:45:41.617 --> 00:45:43.239 start for an old republic series 00:45:44.545 --> 00:45:46.086 And I don't think the ball was fumbled. 00:45:46.146 --> 00:45:49.327 I think there were certain aspects of pop 00:45:49.367 --> 00:45:50.989 culture or culture in general that was 00:45:51.009 --> 00:45:52.268 kind of shoved down our throat on that 00:45:52.369 --> 00:45:54.349 one that people didn't want. 00:45:56.010 --> 00:45:58.492 It's one of those if you stick to, 00:45:58.512 --> 00:46:01.413 like if they wanted to create an old 00:46:01.452 --> 00:46:02.134 Republic story, 00:46:02.173 --> 00:46:05.974 they could have easily went to just before 00:46:06.054 --> 00:46:08.215 Palpatine came to power and him killing, 00:46:10.097 --> 00:46:11.657 what's his name? 00:46:11.697 --> 00:46:11.938 Shit. 00:46:13.262 --> 00:46:14.923 brain farting his master. 00:46:16.385 --> 00:46:18.007 They could have went back before that and 00:46:18.086 --> 00:46:19.427 showed us kind of like the rise of 00:46:19.467 --> 00:46:21.148 the Sith and how we became with the 00:46:21.188 --> 00:46:22.449 rule of two and that kind of stuff. 00:46:22.989 --> 00:46:23.791 I think that would have been great. 00:46:23.891 --> 00:46:25.472 And, and Rob just hit it too. 00:46:25.952 --> 00:46:27.293 The way to bring it back into focus 00:46:27.393 --> 00:46:29.175 as of right now is to restart the 00:46:29.215 --> 00:46:30.115 Jedi Academy. 00:46:30.976 --> 00:46:32.277 Start with the new Jedi order, 00:46:33.277 --> 00:46:35.159 bring in Mara Jade as Luke's hidden wife 00:46:35.420 --> 00:46:36.159 and his child. 00:46:36.661 --> 00:46:38.222 That is a perfect way to do it. 00:46:38.322 --> 00:46:39.422 I think if you're going to do that, 00:46:39.463 --> 00:46:40.963 when you recast Mark Hamill, 00:46:41.641 --> 00:46:42.601 Yeah, Plagueis. 00:46:42.621 --> 00:46:42.961 Plagueis. 00:46:43.001 --> 00:46:43.643 Thank you, Rob. 00:46:44.322 --> 00:46:45.724 I was brain farting on that one too. 00:46:46.304 --> 00:46:46.684 But no, 00:46:46.784 --> 00:46:47.826 Rob hit it right on the head. 00:46:50.027 --> 00:46:50.548 And yeah, 00:46:50.588 --> 00:46:52.090 and Palpatine's been resurrected more than 00:46:52.250 --> 00:46:52.911 once, which is... 00:46:53.871 --> 00:46:56.012 But it's cool how the resurrection of him 00:46:56.052 --> 00:46:59.135 took place and all started with Luke's 00:47:00.257 --> 00:47:01.918 hand. 00:47:01.938 --> 00:47:03.059 So that was pretty cool for when it 00:47:03.079 --> 00:47:04.079 got cut off in Cloud City. 00:47:05.742 --> 00:47:06.422 Crazy they found it. 00:47:06.442 --> 00:47:07.844 I thought it would have fell down that 00:47:07.884 --> 00:47:08.184 hatch. 00:47:09.172 --> 00:47:11.913 yeah so i think that's really cool but 00:47:11.932 --> 00:47:13.974 there's a lot of really great skywalker 00:47:13.994 --> 00:47:15.894 stories out there that could be told by 00:47:15.974 --> 00:47:19.856 disney if they would read the damn source 00:47:19.896 --> 00:47:23.719 material here's the issue with that right 00:47:23.978 --> 00:47:26.500 they don't know how to read no not 00:47:26.519 --> 00:47:27.739 not not necessarily there's comic books so 00:47:27.760 --> 00:47:29.481 not necessarily they don't know how to 00:47:29.501 --> 00:47:32.963 read is disney is still stuck in 00:47:34.146 --> 00:47:36.009 We have to tailor this for the kids. 00:47:36.128 --> 00:47:38.291 And in order to really truly bring out 00:47:38.331 --> 00:47:40.954 the nature that is in the old Republic, 00:47:41.675 --> 00:47:42.835 you got to go dark, bro. 00:47:42.856 --> 00:47:45.237 And I know you're absolutely right. 00:47:45.259 --> 00:47:45.778 You got it. 00:47:45.798 --> 00:47:46.300 You got it. 00:47:46.340 --> 00:47:48.001 You got to step outside the boundaries. 00:47:48.081 --> 00:47:49.563 And I know that you're willing to do 00:47:49.623 --> 00:47:50.744 it for Marvel. 00:47:51.385 --> 00:47:52.405 You got to be willing to do it 00:47:52.425 --> 00:47:53.146 for Star Wars. 00:47:54.112 --> 00:47:54.172 See, 00:47:54.193 --> 00:47:55.833 and they didn't really have to do it 00:47:55.934 --> 00:47:56.594 for Marvel. 00:47:56.614 --> 00:47:59.114 They could have kept it at Sunshine. 00:47:59.193 --> 00:47:59.815 Oh, no, 00:47:59.875 --> 00:48:01.994 you needed to do it for Marvel. 00:48:03.396 --> 00:48:05.876 But when you break that barrier and give 00:48:05.956 --> 00:48:08.297 us something like a Deadpool and Wolverine 00:48:08.376 --> 00:48:09.556 to where things... 00:48:10.077 --> 00:48:12.097 You've shown us that you can go outside 00:48:12.157 --> 00:48:12.777 the boundaries. 00:48:12.797 --> 00:48:14.438 Yeah, I mean, they could do that. 00:48:15.079 --> 00:48:15.239 I mean, 00:48:15.278 --> 00:48:16.719 they proved it with Marvel with Deadpool, 00:48:16.759 --> 00:48:17.378 Wolverine, 00:48:17.418 --> 00:48:18.820 and then just the regular Marvel movies. 00:48:18.840 --> 00:48:19.900 There's a way to do it. 00:48:20.827 --> 00:48:22.489 that you can meet the sides of both 00:48:22.548 --> 00:48:24.650 audiences the people with teenagers and 00:48:24.690 --> 00:48:26.072 kids who want to take their kids to 00:48:26.092 --> 00:48:28.514 see these movies and still appeal to the 00:48:28.574 --> 00:48:30.514 adults there's a fine line there that they 00:48:30.554 --> 00:48:32.536 can do yeah I mean yeah you can 00:48:32.597 --> 00:48:34.759 do that but I agree with anything from 00:48:34.778 --> 00:48:36.199 the Old Republic here would have to be 00:48:36.239 --> 00:48:37.820 pretty dark yeah it's got to be dark 00:48:37.880 --> 00:48:39.262 but it does it can still be done 00:48:39.282 --> 00:48:41.684 in a way to where you can take 00:48:41.724 --> 00:48:43.865 your kid there if you wanted to slap 00:48:43.885 --> 00:48:46.748 a TVMA-XIV on that bad boy 00:48:47.608 --> 00:48:50.150 And let these parents exercise parental 00:48:50.190 --> 00:48:52.632 control and give us what we want. 00:48:52.731 --> 00:48:53.431 It's not that hard. 00:48:53.572 --> 00:48:53.811 Again, 00:48:53.851 --> 00:48:56.373 that's part of the problem right there. 00:48:56.454 --> 00:48:59.195 I would say I prefer like if they 00:48:59.235 --> 00:48:59.376 go. 00:49:00.686 --> 00:49:02.246 with the TV series for these things but 00:49:02.266 --> 00:49:03.809 they got to do them right like yeah 00:49:03.829 --> 00:49:05.349 the way they try to cram stuff in 00:49:05.510 --> 00:49:08.713 a hour forty two hour thing you can't 00:49:08.753 --> 00:49:11.594 do that right you do a sixteen episode 00:49:12.356 --> 00:49:15.778 um animated series right or you do a 00:49:15.878 --> 00:49:18.300 eight episode or a ten episode live action 00:49:18.780 --> 00:49:21.143 where every episode is an hour hour and 00:49:21.163 --> 00:49:22.023 a half long yeah 00:49:22.603 --> 00:49:23.644 And I think that's what they need. 00:49:23.664 --> 00:49:24.646 They need to understand who these 00:49:24.686 --> 00:49:25.246 characters are. 00:49:25.266 --> 00:49:27.048 Because shout out to Rob. 00:49:27.090 --> 00:49:28.891 Yeah, you start doing New Jedi Academy, 00:49:28.931 --> 00:49:30.233 Mara Jade, all of this stuff. 00:49:30.594 --> 00:49:32.096 Disney will be like, OK, we'll do it. 00:49:32.135 --> 00:49:33.577 And then they'll try to introduce Mara 00:49:33.639 --> 00:49:34.960 Jade so fast. 00:49:35.000 --> 00:49:36.643 People will be like, wait, Luke, wait, 00:49:36.682 --> 00:49:37.664 wait, what's going on here? 00:49:38.085 --> 00:49:39.246 Well, the fans are going to know. 00:49:40.106 --> 00:49:42.487 Real fans of Star Wars will know. 00:49:42.507 --> 00:49:44.106 The people Disney want to come watch. 00:49:44.867 --> 00:49:46.347 They know they have real fans by the 00:49:46.387 --> 00:49:47.907 balls with Star Wars, 00:49:48.128 --> 00:49:49.467 but they want to expand it and bring 00:49:49.507 --> 00:49:50.467 new fans in. 00:49:50.987 --> 00:49:52.009 That's another problem. 00:49:52.068 --> 00:49:54.728 Disney is looking at Star Wars like it's 00:49:54.829 --> 00:49:55.289 Disney. 00:49:55.789 --> 00:49:57.110 It's not. 00:49:57.210 --> 00:50:00.130 They have an established fan base already. 00:50:00.230 --> 00:50:03.391 You got to cater to them. 00:50:03.451 --> 00:50:06.010 That fan base is literally the most toxic 00:50:06.070 --> 00:50:08.032 fan base in fan base history. 00:50:08.052 --> 00:50:08.672 I'll say this. 00:50:08.952 --> 00:50:10.452 People have been coming to Disney World to 00:50:10.472 --> 00:50:12.054 see princesses and all that stuff. 00:50:12.074 --> 00:50:14.094 The minute you brought that Star Wars 00:50:14.414 --> 00:50:15.094 stuff over there, 00:50:15.335 --> 00:50:16.635 new people were coming to see you. 00:50:16.655 --> 00:50:16.715 Yes. 00:50:16.735 --> 00:50:18.856 Just like you did when you made Avengers 00:50:18.876 --> 00:50:19.556 Campus. 00:50:19.737 --> 00:50:20.577 New people were coming. 00:50:20.597 --> 00:50:23.318 They're bypassing the magical kingdom and 00:50:23.358 --> 00:50:24.760 going straight to the stuff they want to 00:50:24.800 --> 00:50:25.099 see. 00:50:25.539 --> 00:50:27.800 And if you're fumbling what they're 00:50:27.840 --> 00:50:28.661 holding precious... 00:50:29.820 --> 00:50:31.322 You're going to start seeing the decline 00:50:31.382 --> 00:50:31.682 and stuff. 00:50:31.742 --> 00:50:33.724 People not going to watch your stuff when 00:50:33.744 --> 00:50:34.324 you put it out. 00:50:34.644 --> 00:50:35.525 Shout out to Andor. 00:50:35.545 --> 00:50:36.166 Great stuff. 00:50:36.706 --> 00:50:36.967 Dude, 00:50:36.987 --> 00:50:40.510 Andor is probably the biggest win in 00:50:40.809 --> 00:50:43.652 Disney Star Wars history. 00:50:44.472 --> 00:50:46.193 And what sucks about it is, 00:50:46.273 --> 00:50:48.916 as great as that TV show is, 00:50:49.836 --> 00:50:51.478 we knew what was coming after it. 00:50:51.498 --> 00:50:52.780 Yeah. 00:50:52.800 --> 00:50:52.960 But... 00:50:53.682 --> 00:50:54.603 And that was Rogue One. 00:50:54.804 --> 00:50:56.264 No, but that's what I'm saying. 00:50:57.184 --> 00:50:58.525 I like that, though. 00:50:58.746 --> 00:51:02.108 If you can already establish characters, 00:51:02.389 --> 00:51:03.248 kind of what you're talking about, 00:51:03.289 --> 00:51:04.869 just going back, getting some things. 00:51:04.929 --> 00:51:05.090 Now, 00:51:05.231 --> 00:51:06.612 I don't know how you guys felt about 00:51:06.731 --> 00:51:08.972 Solo, as far as like, let's introduce... 00:51:10.134 --> 00:51:10.994 It was a ball. 00:51:11.295 --> 00:51:12.936 I'm one of the rare people that actually 00:51:12.976 --> 00:51:13.396 liked it. 00:51:13.456 --> 00:51:13.795 I liked it, 00:51:13.815 --> 00:51:14.777 but I thought it was fumbled. 00:51:14.836 --> 00:51:15.637 It could have been better. 00:51:15.677 --> 00:51:16.657 What did you like about it? 00:51:16.677 --> 00:51:20.280 I didn't like that I don't remember 00:51:20.300 --> 00:51:21.041 anything that happened. 00:51:22.213 --> 00:51:24.534 Wow. 00:51:25.074 --> 00:51:27.135 I can understand that. 00:51:27.235 --> 00:51:28.536 I can understand that. 00:51:28.617 --> 00:51:29.757 In the grand scheme of things, 00:51:29.797 --> 00:51:31.398 what happened in that movie don't really 00:51:31.438 --> 00:51:31.760 matter. 00:51:32.300 --> 00:51:34.260 But not to say I like the movie. 00:51:34.280 --> 00:51:34.762 No, no, no, 00:51:34.802 --> 00:51:38.003 because they introduced characters in that 00:51:38.563 --> 00:51:38.945 movie 00:51:39.806 --> 00:51:42.228 who are a part of the Crimson Rain 00:51:42.288 --> 00:51:44.188 comic book storyline. 00:51:44.989 --> 00:51:47.269 And those characters and that storyline 00:51:47.309 --> 00:51:50.170 from Crimson Rain is some of the best 00:51:50.231 --> 00:51:53.072 storyline that you can read in the comic 00:51:53.112 --> 00:51:53.791 book. 00:51:53.811 --> 00:51:56.592 Without a doubt. 00:51:56.974 --> 00:51:57.594 From the audience, 00:51:57.634 --> 00:52:00.074 he said he didn't like the fact that 00:52:00.094 --> 00:52:02.755 he really didn't take anything away from 00:52:02.775 --> 00:52:02.815 it. 00:52:02.835 --> 00:52:04.315 It was more like a movie that was 00:52:04.356 --> 00:52:05.157 just a movie, 00:52:05.277 --> 00:52:07.918 like nothing really mattered in that 00:52:07.958 --> 00:52:08.257 sense. 00:52:08.871 --> 00:52:10.132 And Rob's got another good one in here 00:52:10.152 --> 00:52:10.911 is they fumbled. 00:52:12.273 --> 00:52:13.074 They fumbled. 00:52:13.534 --> 00:52:16.036 They had was they wanted to distance 00:52:16.056 --> 00:52:18.336 themselves from the old trappings, i.e. 00:52:18.356 --> 00:52:19.237 the Skywalkers, 00:52:19.297 --> 00:52:21.338 the distinction between Jedi and Sith, 00:52:21.980 --> 00:52:23.380 the powers that be wanted their own 00:52:23.420 --> 00:52:23.800 characters. 00:52:23.840 --> 00:52:24.121 Yeah. 00:52:24.240 --> 00:52:25.601 But here's the thing about that. 00:52:28.018 --> 00:52:30.000 The characters are already established 00:52:30.019 --> 00:52:31.260 within the Star Wars world. 00:52:31.300 --> 00:52:33.222 You could create new characters within it 00:52:33.681 --> 00:52:36.824 for stuff that happened completely after 00:52:36.903 --> 00:52:37.885 the Skywalkers. 00:52:37.925 --> 00:52:39.326 You could create new stuff for that. 00:52:39.445 --> 00:52:42.827 I get that. 00:52:42.847 --> 00:52:44.168 There's a way to do it and there's 00:52:44.208 --> 00:52:45.329 a way to not do it. 00:52:46.130 --> 00:52:48.050 And Disney chose the path of the way 00:52:48.650 --> 00:52:50.112 to not do it properly. 00:52:52.461 --> 00:52:54.043 And it's not that people don't like a 00:52:54.103 --> 00:52:56.945 strong, powerful female lead. 00:52:57.365 --> 00:52:57.947 We love it. 00:52:58.907 --> 00:53:01.349 And shit, Princess Leia is one of the... 00:53:03.052 --> 00:53:08.135 So she... She finished her Jedi training. 00:53:09.356 --> 00:53:12.619 She was an established Jedi who just so 00:53:12.659 --> 00:53:14.561 happened to carry the name Princess. 00:53:14.963 --> 00:53:16.943 But her leadership qualities... 00:53:17.708 --> 00:53:19.248 It was her leading the rebellion. 00:53:19.849 --> 00:53:22.248 That's really where her setting and her 00:53:22.329 --> 00:53:23.550 strengths were. 00:53:24.429 --> 00:53:25.750 So it's not that we're afraid of a 00:53:25.789 --> 00:53:27.110 strong female lead. 00:53:27.811 --> 00:53:30.572 It's don't shove the female lead down our 00:53:30.672 --> 00:53:32.211 throat the way you did. 00:53:32.952 --> 00:53:33.652 And also, 00:53:33.853 --> 00:53:36.693 we were led to believe in the impression 00:53:36.713 --> 00:53:39.713 that, what's his name? 00:53:41.574 --> 00:53:42.175 The Stormtrooper. 00:53:43.384 --> 00:53:43.664 Finn? 00:53:43.684 --> 00:53:43.864 Finn. 00:53:43.885 --> 00:53:45.766 Finn was going to be the lead and 00:53:45.826 --> 00:53:48.608 who was going to be this powerful Jedi. 00:53:48.648 --> 00:53:48.907 You know, 00:53:49.648 --> 00:53:50.969 because it was something we've never seen 00:53:51.009 --> 00:53:51.469 before. 00:53:51.610 --> 00:53:52.489 Psych your balls. 00:53:52.769 --> 00:53:54.271 But that never happened, right? 00:53:54.490 --> 00:53:54.811 Right. 00:53:54.831 --> 00:53:57.333 So that was another reason for everybody 00:53:57.373 --> 00:53:58.114 to be upset. 00:53:58.974 --> 00:54:00.215 Because everybody was like, oh, 00:54:00.235 --> 00:54:01.436 this is going to be about Finn. 00:54:01.476 --> 00:54:03.257 Because that's what was given to us in 00:54:03.277 --> 00:54:04.478 the previews and stuff like that. 00:54:04.498 --> 00:54:05.097 I'm like, oh, Finn, 00:54:05.177 --> 00:54:06.079 I can get behind Finn. 00:54:06.099 --> 00:54:07.480 This is really, really dope. 00:54:08.460 --> 00:54:08.840 Nah, nah. 00:54:10.179 --> 00:54:10.661 Psyche. 00:54:10.681 --> 00:54:12.882 And it's a shame that they did it 00:54:12.902 --> 00:54:16.106 that way to us. 00:54:16.126 --> 00:54:17.086 They messed up when J.J. 00:54:17.228 --> 00:54:17.927 Abrams left, 00:54:17.967 --> 00:54:19.269 and then they brought in the new guy. 00:54:19.710 --> 00:54:21.972 Yes, absolutely right, Rob. 00:54:21.992 --> 00:54:22.672 Me and Rob. 00:54:23.373 --> 00:54:24.695 So for y'all who don't know Rob. 00:54:24.715 --> 00:54:25.155 Save us. 00:54:25.699 --> 00:54:26.460 He's our brother. 00:54:26.721 --> 00:54:29.282 He comes on the podcast when I talk 00:54:29.402 --> 00:54:30.202 anything Star Wars. 00:54:30.222 --> 00:54:31.643 Official member of the council? 00:54:31.824 --> 00:54:33.686 He is an official member of the council. 00:54:33.706 --> 00:54:36.268 He's an OG member of the council. 00:54:37.047 --> 00:54:37.628 Once a year, 00:54:38.108 --> 00:54:40.851 I do a giant Star Wars show. 00:54:40.951 --> 00:54:42.992 I didn't do it this year because I 00:54:43.032 --> 00:54:46.074 was so busy with interviews that I hadn't 00:54:46.114 --> 00:54:48.217 had a real time to sit down and 00:54:48.257 --> 00:54:49.217 put anything together. 00:54:49.237 --> 00:54:51.139 But I know the new Star Wars Visions 00:54:51.719 --> 00:54:52.420 just finished, 00:54:52.440 --> 00:54:53.641 so this may be a chance for me 00:54:53.661 --> 00:54:53.760 to... 00:54:54.769 --> 00:54:56.632 during this holiday break that's coming up 00:54:56.692 --> 00:54:59.375 to sit down and write out my annual 00:54:59.414 --> 00:55:01.135 Star Wars show and just do it later 00:55:02.157 --> 00:55:03.177 than I normally would have. 00:55:03.239 --> 00:55:05.940 Normally, I do it every May. 00:55:07.463 --> 00:55:08.384 But yeah, if I do that, 00:55:09.103 --> 00:55:09.764 I'll have Rob. 00:55:10.925 --> 00:55:15.030 I will have Bill, Frank D., 00:55:17.655 --> 00:55:19.315 Amanda comes through, right? 00:55:19.335 --> 00:55:19.596 Amanda, yep. 00:55:19.615 --> 00:55:20.577 All the Star Wars. 00:55:20.717 --> 00:55:22.137 All my Star Wars friends. 00:55:24.039 --> 00:55:26.820 So I like to think I'm smart on 00:55:26.900 --> 00:55:30.961 Star Wars until I met Rob and Amanda 00:55:31.541 --> 00:55:33.583 and Frank D's come a long way. 00:55:34.063 --> 00:55:35.885 You know what's funny about Frank D is 00:55:36.184 --> 00:55:37.505 I'm the one that took him to see 00:55:37.545 --> 00:55:38.606 his first Star Wars movie. 00:55:38.961 --> 00:55:40.163 And then he just blasted off. 00:55:40.182 --> 00:55:42.043 You know, it's funny. 00:55:42.403 --> 00:55:42.684 Again, 00:55:42.704 --> 00:55:44.925 that is like he would sit there and 00:55:44.965 --> 00:55:48.128 talk so much shit about Star Wars and 00:55:48.228 --> 00:55:49.789 how much he hated it. 00:55:50.748 --> 00:55:51.409 And then finally, 00:55:51.429 --> 00:55:52.990 when they like he sent me a message, 00:55:53.010 --> 00:55:54.030 he's like, hey, I changed my mind. 00:55:54.050 --> 00:55:55.431 I'm actually in love with Star Wars now. 00:55:55.452 --> 00:55:58.373 I was like, welcome to the club. 00:55:58.393 --> 00:55:59.534 Welcome to the club, buddy. 00:55:59.554 --> 00:56:00.896 All right. 00:56:00.916 --> 00:56:02.896 We got time for one more question in 00:56:02.936 --> 00:56:03.157 here. 00:56:04.264 --> 00:56:05.385 Or it's a statement, rather. 00:56:05.425 --> 00:56:07.286 I feel like Disney is afraid of the 00:56:07.347 --> 00:56:09.670 pushback and a little too willing to 00:56:09.769 --> 00:56:11.652 change direction mid-trilogy, 00:56:11.751 --> 00:56:13.353 and the story kind of falls apart in 00:56:13.393 --> 00:56:14.615 a lot of the newer stuff. 00:56:14.976 --> 00:56:15.076 Well, 00:56:15.096 --> 00:56:17.938 that goes back to the director changes, 00:56:17.998 --> 00:56:18.239 right? 00:56:18.280 --> 00:56:18.380 Yes. 00:56:18.400 --> 00:56:20.702 That had a bigger effect on it than 00:56:20.762 --> 00:56:21.762 people realized. 00:56:21.782 --> 00:56:22.204 Right. 00:56:22.483 --> 00:56:25.485 and the vision getting messed up yes and 00:56:25.646 --> 00:56:27.467 it's just you ended up with what you 00:56:27.507 --> 00:56:29.349 have bro and it's like who green lit 00:56:29.369 --> 00:56:32.090 this like what who this is the movie 00:56:32.110 --> 00:56:33.692 y'all decided to give us like i know 00:56:33.731 --> 00:56:35.472 y'all there's source material that y'all 00:56:35.512 --> 00:56:38.295 could have drawn on and and not gone 00:56:38.315 --> 00:56:40.356 with your own gut on this bro like 00:56:40.376 --> 00:56:44.360 like so i know this is uh controversial 00:56:44.400 --> 00:56:47.101 but i actually enjoyed the alkali because 00:56:47.302 --> 00:56:49.702 i thought the the positive direction that 00:56:49.722 --> 00:56:51.003 it was going in but you're gonna say 00:56:51.083 --> 00:56:51.925 i like the last gen 00:56:54.143 --> 00:56:56.324 Because you're like, 00:56:56.423 --> 00:56:57.985 this is controversial. 00:56:58.005 --> 00:56:59.485 The direction they were trying to go with 00:56:59.505 --> 00:57:00.126 the Alkalite, 00:57:00.347 --> 00:57:02.807 I was thoroughly ready to enjoy. 00:57:03.128 --> 00:57:05.068 It led to Plagueis. 00:57:05.949 --> 00:57:07.289 That was something I was excited to 00:57:07.349 --> 00:57:07.771 happen. 00:57:09.911 --> 00:57:10.612 It got a lot of... 00:57:11.112 --> 00:57:14.373 People just shot it to shit for some 00:57:14.414 --> 00:57:15.614 reason. 00:57:15.855 --> 00:57:18.235 It really wasn't that bad at the end 00:57:18.275 --> 00:57:19.697 of the day. 00:57:19.737 --> 00:57:21.757 People just wanted to shit on it because 00:57:21.898 --> 00:57:22.759 it was different. 00:57:23.596 --> 00:57:25.436 didn't include the skywalkers with some of 00:57:25.456 --> 00:57:27.297 these things you don't need the skywalkers 00:57:27.358 --> 00:57:29.820 to tell a story in star wars but 00:57:29.840 --> 00:57:32.221 that's it that's the thing though like i 00:57:32.240 --> 00:57:34.402 think we're in this age we're we're the 00:57:34.503 --> 00:57:37.724 elders now right because when the sequels 00:57:37.764 --> 00:57:39.545 came out like some of the younger people 00:57:39.585 --> 00:57:41.367 like oh this is cool this is great 00:57:41.387 --> 00:57:43.387 this is star wars and all the older 00:57:43.407 --> 00:57:45.469 people at that time are the prequels 00:57:45.730 --> 00:57:47.311 episodes one through three when they came 00:57:47.431 --> 00:57:47.550 out 00:57:48.291 --> 00:57:49.650 A lot of people crapped on those. 00:57:49.670 --> 00:57:51.431 You know what I mean? 00:57:51.452 --> 00:57:53.572 I blame Jar Jar Beans for me shitting 00:57:53.592 --> 00:57:54.431 on Star Wars. 00:57:54.672 --> 00:57:55.391 These suck. 00:57:55.632 --> 00:57:59.273 But over time, they went and granted, 00:57:59.313 --> 00:58:01.972 they had to go and plug some of 00:58:01.992 --> 00:58:04.773 these holes with the Clone Wars and some 00:58:04.793 --> 00:58:05.934 of these animated series. 00:58:05.994 --> 00:58:06.793 But over time, 00:58:07.134 --> 00:58:08.994 the story made sense to where you go 00:58:09.034 --> 00:58:11.135 back and look at them now like, oh, 00:58:11.375 --> 00:58:12.534 I have backstory. 00:58:12.934 --> 00:58:13.494 And oh, 00:58:13.655 --> 00:58:15.016 I have stuff that I can draw and 00:58:15.056 --> 00:58:16.295 now it makes more sense. 00:58:16.476 --> 00:58:17.115 You know what I mean? 00:58:17.135 --> 00:58:17.396 That's true. 00:58:17.916 --> 00:58:20.177 So breaking news, 00:58:20.818 --> 00:58:23.960 our tech director here at Cape Con is 00:58:24.019 --> 00:58:25.121 a huge fan, 00:58:25.161 --> 00:58:27.081 like huge fan of The Last Jedi. 00:58:27.103 --> 00:58:27.623 Oh, my God. 00:58:28.182 --> 00:58:29.384 He says it's rough, 00:58:30.324 --> 00:58:32.306 but it had a lot of fun and 00:58:32.326 --> 00:58:33.407 a lot of good ideas, 00:58:33.547 --> 00:58:34.967 so much so that he got The Last 00:58:34.987 --> 00:58:37.809 Jedi tattooed on his upper left butt 00:58:37.829 --> 00:58:38.010 cheek. 00:58:38.050 --> 00:58:39.331 I need to see it. 00:58:42.835 --> 00:58:43.817 I don't need to see it if it's 00:58:43.856 --> 00:58:44.496 on his buttcheek. 00:58:44.556 --> 00:58:46.119 I'll take his word for it. 00:58:46.159 --> 00:58:47.880 I can only quote what was given to 00:58:47.920 --> 00:58:48.059 me, 00:58:48.099 --> 00:58:49.420 and that's what was given to me here. 00:58:50.362 --> 00:58:51.762 You really have that on your buttcheek? 00:58:51.782 --> 00:58:58.869 It's a whole new movie. 00:58:58.889 --> 00:58:59.509 It's a whole new movie. 00:59:02.804 --> 00:59:04.585 it's one of those that like i know 00:59:04.606 --> 00:59:06.407 we're short on time but you know just 00:59:06.447 --> 00:59:08.827 watch that movie i understand it's like 00:59:09.407 --> 00:59:11.688 sci-fi it's fictional none of its base but 00:59:11.728 --> 00:59:13.068 like some of the things they were doing 00:59:13.108 --> 00:59:15.789 like you're breaking you're breaking 00:59:15.949 --> 00:59:17.951 whatever limits that you already created 00:59:17.990 --> 00:59:18.190 like 00:59:19.112 --> 00:59:20.956 I'm assuming Jedi power, the Force, 00:59:20.996 --> 00:59:22.918 everything's cool, but when Princess, or, 00:59:22.978 --> 00:59:23.278 you know, 00:59:23.838 --> 00:59:26.342 General Leia gets blown out into space 00:59:26.382 --> 00:59:27.744 after Kylo Ren blows that up, 00:59:27.824 --> 00:59:29.766 I'm just like... And here's me. 00:59:29.786 --> 00:59:31.969 I'm like, Carrie Fisher, you know, 00:59:32.010 --> 00:59:32.610 God rest her soul, 00:59:32.630 --> 00:59:33.572 passed away in real life. 00:59:33.632 --> 00:59:34.572 I'm like, this is how... 00:59:35.173 --> 00:59:36.634 this is how they they write her out 00:59:36.673 --> 00:59:38.375 of the thing right and then all of 00:59:38.414 --> 00:59:40.655 a sudden she's like bibbidi-bobbidi-boo 00:59:40.996 --> 00:59:42.556 and flies back into the ship I'm like 00:59:42.576 --> 00:59:46.177 what are we doing she was a Jedi 00:59:46.317 --> 00:59:48.338 and not to be with like that so 00:59:48.697 --> 00:59:49.898 is that out of the reason for her 00:59:49.998 --> 00:59:55.739 as a Jedi to do that absolutely not 00:59:55.760 --> 00:59:58.001 yeah yeah exactly but I can at least 00:59:58.161 --> 00:59:58.920 explain it away 01:00:02.081 --> 01:00:02.521 Yeah, exactly. 01:00:02.541 --> 01:00:04.103 If people would have known that she was 01:00:04.123 --> 01:00:05.585 trained in the force because Luke 01:00:05.605 --> 01:00:06.784 completed her training. 01:00:06.865 --> 01:00:10.047 Like literally she gave her lightsaber to 01:00:10.168 --> 01:00:10.527 Rey. 01:00:10.568 --> 01:00:12.710 That was her lightsaber. 01:00:12.809 --> 01:00:14.592 That was Leia's lightsaber that she gave 01:00:14.632 --> 01:00:15.231 to Rey. 01:00:16.012 --> 01:00:16.432 So. 01:00:17.914 --> 01:00:18.815 But I don't want to I don't want 01:00:18.835 --> 01:00:20.016 to I don't want to crash too much. 01:00:20.056 --> 01:00:21.317 She is not a Skywalker. 01:00:21.416 --> 01:00:24.139 She is a Palpatine because she is the 01:00:24.179 --> 01:00:26.300 daughter of one of Palpatine's clones. 01:00:27.045 --> 01:00:27.885 At the end of the day, 01:00:27.947 --> 01:00:28.847 how do you think she was able to 01:00:28.867 --> 01:00:30.431 shoot force lightning with never training 01:00:30.510 --> 01:00:31.251 in force lightning? 01:00:31.932 --> 01:00:33.695 But with that being said, 01:00:34.056 --> 01:00:35.338 we're going to wrap it up here. 01:00:35.358 --> 01:00:36.380 I'm going to pass it over to my 01:00:36.420 --> 01:00:36.961 boy, Mack. 01:00:37.001 --> 01:00:38.563 Let y'all know where you can find him. 01:00:39.268 --> 01:00:41.690 So, like I said, the homie Mac, a.k.a. 01:00:41.731 --> 01:00:42.172 your boy. 01:00:43.432 --> 01:00:43.913 First of all, 01:00:43.952 --> 01:00:45.635 you want anything that we do here, 01:00:46.155 --> 01:00:47.916 the Daffodil and Podcast Network Facebook 01:00:47.936 --> 01:00:48.916 page is where it'll be at. 01:00:49.237 --> 01:00:50.798 If you're looking for us over on YouTube, 01:00:51.039 --> 01:00:52.740 it's at DFPN Studios. 01:00:53.260 --> 01:00:55.123 And then Instagram as well. 01:00:55.202 --> 01:00:57.364 I think it's Daffodil and Podcast Network. 01:00:57.385 --> 01:00:57.485 Yep. 01:00:57.784 --> 01:00:58.184 as well. 01:00:58.545 --> 01:01:00.146 But we do host the Smoke Pit. 01:01:00.847 --> 01:01:01.327 We're over there. 01:01:01.347 --> 01:01:03.889 We do have the website as well, 01:01:03.929 --> 01:01:05.231 thedfpn.com. 01:01:05.572 --> 01:01:06.932 You can see all our stuff over there 01:01:06.952 --> 01:01:07.213 as well. 01:01:07.253 --> 01:01:08.594 We link to the YouTube channels, 01:01:08.675 --> 01:01:09.414 everything like that. 01:01:09.434 --> 01:01:10.695 So if you want a one-stop shop, 01:01:11.197 --> 01:01:12.978 thedfpn.com, 01:01:13.458 --> 01:01:14.900 and you'll see where we're all at. 01:01:14.940 --> 01:01:15.721 But that's me. 01:01:17.378 --> 01:01:20.579 same uh thedfpn.com uh you can follow us 01:01:20.619 --> 01:01:23.322 there uh we do the smoke pit together 01:01:23.503 --> 01:01:26.824 fridays uh tuesdays and i'm sorry 01:01:26.905 --> 01:01:29.987 thursdays and saturdays we do no gimmicks 01:01:30.108 --> 01:01:32.268 on on the network and we have so 01:01:32.329 --> 01:01:36.632 much weekly content cutting edge heroes uh 01:01:36.672 --> 01:01:38.333 confessions of fell family man 01:01:39.873 --> 01:01:40.795 Eat the cake anime. 01:01:40.934 --> 01:01:41.454 I'm tired, 01:01:41.494 --> 01:01:43.094 so I don't want to make sure. 01:01:43.456 --> 01:01:47.016 We also have a TTRPG. 01:01:47.297 --> 01:01:50.297 Shout out to Awesome Zone. 01:01:50.739 --> 01:01:52.878 Rob, who I'll do that over there. 01:01:53.219 --> 01:01:54.380 Fantastic stuff with that. 01:01:54.400 --> 01:01:56.221 It's a very unique tabletop game. 01:01:56.880 --> 01:01:58.322 If you're into tabletop games or just 01:01:58.362 --> 01:01:59.382 watching people hanging out, 01:01:59.965 --> 01:02:01.688 in different locations around the United 01:02:01.728 --> 01:02:03.110 States and just shooting the shit and 01:02:03.130 --> 01:02:04.271 playing a TTRPG. 01:02:04.672 --> 01:02:06.094 It's such a great story. 01:02:06.355 --> 01:02:07.335 Something to check out. 01:02:07.436 --> 01:02:08.036 And as always, 01:02:08.378 --> 01:02:10.681 I am the chairman of the United States 01:02:10.701 --> 01:02:11.442 department of nerds. 01:02:11.481 --> 01:02:13.925 You can find me on Facebook or this 01:02:14.065 --> 01:02:15.146 USDN podcast. 01:02:16.072 --> 01:02:18.293 My main page on Facebook is the United 01:02:18.313 --> 01:02:19.213 States Department of Nerds. 01:02:19.253 --> 01:02:22.755 I'm on YouTube as USDN Podcast. 01:02:23.795 --> 01:02:25.396 Instagram is USDN Podcast. 01:02:25.697 --> 01:02:26.297 Blue Sky, 01:02:26.376 --> 01:02:28.617 I'm on there as the USDN Chairman. 01:02:29.177 --> 01:02:30.539 Go give us all a follow. 01:02:31.699 --> 01:02:32.259 If I was y'all, 01:02:32.318 --> 01:02:34.739 I would go to the ddfpn.com, 01:02:35.121 --> 01:02:36.201 bookmark that shit, 01:02:36.701 --> 01:02:38.802 and stay tuned because we have a lot 01:02:39.121 --> 01:02:40.222 of big things coming. 01:02:40.282 --> 01:02:41.063 And with that, y'all, 01:02:41.822 --> 01:02:43.063 We're out of here, Cape Con. 01:02:43.503 --> 01:02:45.744 Thank y'all so much, Cape Girardeau. 01:02:46.065 --> 01:02:46.744 You're beautiful. 01:02:46.965 --> 01:02:48.806 We'll see you in April for AnimeCon. 01:02:48.865 --> 01:02:49.666 It's cold here, too. 01:02:50.025 --> 01:02:52.927 Yes, it's cold. 01:02:52.947 --> 01:02:53.407 Thank y'all. 01:02:53.447 --> 01:02:53.806 Peace. 01:02:54.027 --> 01:02:54.847 If you're coming out.