1 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:05,990 Peter Martin, what's up? 2 00:00:05,990 --> 00:00:08,925 What's your favorite blues tune that people might, oh man, 3 00:00:08,925 --> 00:00:10,565 I love it is, uh, oh, wow. 4 00:00:10,595 --> 00:00:12,125 Okay. Go ahead. 5 00:00:14,515 --> 00:00:16,965 Well, is that G Blues? G Blues? I love a G Blues. 6 00:00:16,965 --> 00:00:17,965 Everybody loves G Blues. 7 00:00:17,965 --> 00:00:19,285 But I was saying, what's your favorite blues tune 8 00:00:19,285 --> 00:00:20,925 that people might not know is a blues? 9 00:00:20,925 --> 00:00:24,365 Like it follows the form, but it's maybe not that obvious. 10 00:00:24,365 --> 00:00:27,125 Like blues incognito kind of perfect. Yeah. Blues Incognito. 11 00:00:27,205 --> 00:00:31,165 I love, yeah. 12 00:00:31,165 --> 00:00:33,565 Wayne Shorter's Footprints. Great call. Great call. 13 00:00:56,235 --> 00:00:58,125 Yeah. That's awesome pick. Awesome pick. Yeah. 14 00:00:58,325 --> 00:01:00,845 I was gonna say something similar. Yeah, I like this one. 15 00:01:00,855 --> 00:01:05,165 Check it out, guys. I don't think that's a blues. 16 00:01:05,265 --> 00:01:09,605 Oh, it's o contraire. Re ah. Oui, oui, 17 00:01:14,625 --> 00:01:16,005 um, yeah, that's my pick. 18 00:01:16,195 --> 00:01:18,365 Okay. Well, I got another one for you. All right. 19 00:01:18,405 --> 00:01:20,285 I don't know if you remember this. You were kind of young. 20 00:01:20,435 --> 00:01:25,365 Okay. What Have you got the look? 21 00:01:26,465 --> 00:01:28,685 Oh, that's great. Call. 22 00:01:59,505 --> 00:01:59,725 Hey, 23 00:02:15,975 --> 00:02:16,975 I am Adam Maness. 24 00:02:16,995 --> 00:02:18,455 And I'm Peter Martin. And you're listening 25 00:02:18,455 --> 00:02:21,535 to the You'll Hear It podcast. 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We, we have so many new, 50 00:03:06,765 --> 00:03:08,205 you'll hear at listeners in particular 51 00:03:08,205 --> 00:03:10,165 that we've been hearing about that have joined up 52 00:03:10,165 --> 00:03:11,205 for over the holidays. 53 00:03:11,265 --> 00:03:13,405 And it's a fun place. Yeah. Sullivan's great. Okay. 54 00:03:13,425 --> 00:03:15,725 So can I do a little bit of a teaser, please? 55 00:03:15,725 --> 00:03:16,765 A little bit of a do it. 56 00:03:16,965 --> 00:03:18,725 A peek around the corner. Are we allowed to do that? 57 00:03:18,845 --> 00:03:20,125 I mean, we're listening to Prince today, 58 00:03:20,125 --> 00:03:21,245 so tease and peek away. 59 00:03:21,655 --> 00:03:25,885 Tease, tease and peek. Um, that's creepy. Uh, but yeah. 60 00:03:25,945 --> 00:03:29,845 So this is the end of season two. The final episode. 61 00:03:29,915 --> 00:03:33,205 Well, the new season, it's really season 274. 62 00:03:33,205 --> 00:03:34,525 It's, yeah, it's really season it. Although it feels like 63 00:03:34,525 --> 00:03:36,245 4 75 to be honest, but 64 00:03:36,365 --> 00:03:38,165 I think technically it's, of the New Seasons, 65 00:03:38,165 --> 00:03:39,725 it's season three, but whatever 66 00:03:39,725 --> 00:03:41,285 Really coming up is season three. 67 00:03:41,315 --> 00:03:42,885 Yeah. Right. But I'm saying we're ending, 68 00:03:43,155 --> 00:03:44,485 this is the last episode today 69 00:03:44,485 --> 00:03:46,365 of season two Prince Siloed. The times 70 00:03:46,555 --> 00:03:47,965 I've gone cross-eyed. So I don't know. Okay. 71 00:03:48,345 --> 00:03:50,925 Anyway, next season. Next year as in 2026. 72 00:03:51,025 --> 00:03:52,205 Are you ready for it? 'cause it's coming. 73 00:03:52,605 --> 00:03:53,765 I am. It's coming like a Mack truck. 74 00:03:54,065 --> 00:03:55,605 I'm ready, man. I can't wait. We've got a lot 75 00:03:55,605 --> 00:03:56,605 of great albums on deck. 76 00:03:56,605 --> 00:03:58,205 Yeah. Including some Sullivan Forter. 77 00:03:58,205 --> 00:03:59,285 That's where I was getting, you see, 78 00:03:59,285 --> 00:04:00,085 look, you're completing my 79 00:04:00,085 --> 00:04:01,165 thoughts. That's what happens. Yeah. 80 00:04:01,235 --> 00:04:02,885 Good. Yeah. We're gonna be listening to a bunch 81 00:04:02,885 --> 00:04:04,685 of great albums, uh, in the new year. 82 00:04:04,825 --> 00:04:07,925 So stick with us. But Peter, we're ending this season. 83 00:04:08,155 --> 00:04:11,365 This is the official, we've got some stuff coming up in the, 84 00:04:11,365 --> 00:04:13,325 in the little break, some surprises 85 00:04:13,505 --> 00:04:15,605 and some maybe sneak peeks at even some new 86 00:04:15,605 --> 00:04:16,685 shows that we might have. 87 00:04:17,065 --> 00:04:19,605 But this is the official end of our run 88 00:04:19,625 --> 00:04:22,045 before we take a little bit of a break. And, but for 89 00:04:22,045 --> 00:04:23,445 The listener, it's not really gonna be much of a break. 90 00:04:23,585 --> 00:04:24,645 Not much of a break. No. It's gonna be, 91 00:04:24,645 --> 00:04:25,645 stuff's gonna be dropping like, 92 00:04:25,955 --> 00:04:27,805 like hail in the Midwest in June. 93 00:04:28,035 --> 00:04:29,925 Come on now. That's damaging. Come on Now. 94 00:04:30,185 --> 00:04:32,165 Uh, we wanted to go out with kind of a bang. 95 00:04:32,305 --> 00:04:33,565 Yes. And we're gonna go out with, with, oh, 96 00:04:33,565 --> 00:04:35,365 If we're going to, we Go out with a banger. 97 00:04:35,705 --> 00:04:37,725 And this is one of the most requested artists. 98 00:04:38,145 --> 00:04:39,525 And actually this album in particular, 99 00:04:39,525 --> 00:04:42,445 people have requested a ton in comments 100 00:04:43,065 --> 00:04:45,045 in emails You've been telling us you 101 00:04:45,045 --> 00:04:46,085 wanna hear some Prince. Are 102 00:04:46,085 --> 00:04:47,165 Jazz fans, have they been, we, 103 00:04:47,165 --> 00:04:48,525 we don't know if they've been asking people. Well, let's 104 00:04:49,075 --> 00:04:50,365 This, so No, we actually, let's maybe 105 00:04:50,365 --> 00:04:51,685 address some elephants in the room. 106 00:04:51,745 --> 00:04:54,445 So in the last couple seasons, the last three seasons, yeah. 107 00:04:54,655 --> 00:04:56,765 We've been doing more like jazz adjacent stuff. 108 00:04:56,765 --> 00:04:58,245 We've been doing a lot of Stevie Wonder. 109 00:04:58,245 --> 00:04:59,565 We've been doing a lot of Michael Jackson. 110 00:04:59,865 --> 00:05:01,765 No one complained about Stevie. Let's just put that on 111 00:05:02,405 --> 00:05:03,405 Stevie. We did some Marvin 112 00:05:03,405 --> 00:05:04,725 Gaye. We've been doing a lot of hiphop. 113 00:05:04,815 --> 00:05:08,725 We've been doing some stuff that is, is RB, r and B. Yeah. 114 00:05:09,025 --> 00:05:11,605 Uh, and we've still been doing a lot of jazz. Yeah. 115 00:05:12,065 --> 00:05:16,005 Um, but I don't know, maybe we should talk about that. Yeah. 116 00:05:16,005 --> 00:05:17,645 Let's do a little Yeah. You know, a little bit of like 117 00:05:17,715 --> 00:05:19,405 what our thoughts are on why we 118 00:05:19,405 --> 00:05:20,565 kind of changed the format of the shelf. 119 00:05:20,765 --> 00:05:22,925 'cause see, for years it was just like, this is a 120 00:05:22,965 --> 00:05:23,965 C seven. Right. 121 00:05:23,965 --> 00:05:25,125 Don't even play it. 122 00:05:25,125 --> 00:05:27,685 Like, listeners and viewers are running away. 123 00:05:27,705 --> 00:05:28,605 As soon as you said that, 124 00:05:29,275 --> 00:05:30,485 that sounded good though, actually. 125 00:05:30,595 --> 00:05:33,485 Well, yeah. We were much more of a splaining type of video. 126 00:05:33,555 --> 00:05:36,485 Much more of a tutorial video podcast. Yeah. 127 00:05:36,625 --> 00:05:38,445 Um, really two jazz guys talking 128 00:05:38,445 --> 00:05:40,565 to other jazz guys and Yeah. 129 00:05:40,565 --> 00:05:43,125 We have strayed a little bit, a lot of bit from that. 130 00:05:43,865 --> 00:05:45,685 And just, I, I mean, 131 00:05:45,845 --> 00:05:47,845 it's actually nothing super calculating just 132 00:05:47,925 --> 00:05:49,845 'cause we're not smart and sophisticated enough Yeah. 133 00:05:49,865 --> 00:05:51,165 To do too much calculation. 134 00:05:51,705 --> 00:05:53,965 Um, but I think you, you know, the way 135 00:05:53,965 --> 00:05:56,925 that we're pre coming up with, obviously we're, we're, 136 00:05:56,950 --> 00:05:59,765 we're, we're tra you know, we're typically featuring one 137 00:05:59,765 --> 00:06:02,205 album per episode, like today, prince Sign, sign 138 00:06:02,205 --> 00:06:04,205 of the Times, and then we're breaking it down. 139 00:06:04,545 --> 00:06:06,205 But like, how we come up with these albums, 140 00:06:06,205 --> 00:06:08,165 it's actually not about what style is genre. 141 00:06:08,355 --> 00:06:09,565 It's about if one of us, 142 00:06:09,585 --> 00:06:12,445 or hopefully as in this case, both of us love an album. 143 00:06:12,595 --> 00:06:14,885 Yeah. Like, it's either gotta be in our rotation 144 00:06:15,545 --> 00:06:16,845 or used to be in our rotation 145 00:06:16,865 --> 00:06:18,085 and we're excited to put it back 146 00:06:18,085 --> 00:06:19,725 Impactful forest meaningful for one of us. 147 00:06:19,905 --> 00:06:21,525 That's really the only criteria. Right. 148 00:06:21,545 --> 00:06:23,645 And I mean, a little bit, it's sometimes for one of us, 149 00:06:23,675 --> 00:06:24,925 it's more like, oh, I've always wanted 150 00:06:24,925 --> 00:06:26,685 to dive deeper into that album For sure. 151 00:06:26,785 --> 00:06:29,885 Or dive back into that. Or maybe sometimes, like with Largo. 152 00:06:29,885 --> 00:06:32,565 Yeah. Brad meld. Brad Mel at the beginning 153 00:06:32,565 --> 00:06:34,125 of last season, right? 154 00:06:34,125 --> 00:06:37,045 Yeah. Earlier this year. Like, I never really checked. 155 00:06:37,165 --> 00:06:39,365 I mean, I'd heard that record and I heard him playing a lot 156 00:06:39,365 --> 00:06:40,445 of that music live at that time. 157 00:06:40,685 --> 00:06:43,325 'cause I was, you know, touring adjacent 158 00:06:43,395 --> 00:06:44,445 with him and knew him. 159 00:06:44,465 --> 00:06:45,645 And we kind of came up together. 160 00:06:45,665 --> 00:06:47,485 But that was a fun thing for me 161 00:06:47,485 --> 00:06:48,925 because you were passionate about it and knew that record. 162 00:06:48,925 --> 00:06:50,365 So that was a discovery thing for me, 163 00:06:50,365 --> 00:06:51,365 and I think for a lot of folks. 164 00:06:51,505 --> 00:06:54,365 So for sure, that's kind of the main philosophy. 165 00:06:54,385 --> 00:06:55,965 If there is one that's the elephant in 166 00:06:55,965 --> 00:06:56,965 The room. That's really it. There's 167 00:06:56,965 --> 00:06:58,365 nothing more calculated than that. 168 00:06:58,365 --> 00:07:00,045 And it's, and it's like, uh, I don't think, 169 00:07:00,765 --> 00:07:03,445 I know we don't think about like, genre as like, well, 170 00:07:03,485 --> 00:07:05,365 I can't talk about this or like this. 171 00:07:05,365 --> 00:07:07,485 Yeah. Because it's not a specific, you 172 00:07:07,485 --> 00:07:08,605 Famously love genres. 173 00:07:08,925 --> 00:07:09,925 I 174 00:07:10,165 --> 00:07:11,645 I honestly, I really hate them. 175 00:07:11,905 --> 00:07:12,925 But this is a great example. 176 00:07:12,925 --> 00:07:15,365 Like, to me, this album, this album 177 00:07:15,785 --> 00:07:17,085 and, you know, something 178 00:07:17,085 --> 00:07:19,805 by John Coltrane sit at the same place in my heart. 179 00:07:20,025 --> 00:07:22,325 Wow. You know what I mean? Like impactful. Yeah. 180 00:07:22,685 --> 00:07:24,685 I think Prince is entertaining one 181 00:07:24,685 --> 00:07:26,325 of the most incredible artists at what he does. 182 00:07:26,445 --> 00:07:30,165 I think all of the artists that we've listened to, uh, 183 00:07:30,305 --> 00:07:32,245 in not just the last couple seasons 184 00:07:32,245 --> 00:07:33,645 where we've been expanding, but 185 00:07:33,745 --> 00:07:36,685 before that are like really meaningful to both of us. 186 00:07:36,785 --> 00:07:38,565 And that's, yeah. That's what we're gonna continue to do 187 00:07:38,565 --> 00:07:39,565 because it makes it really fun. 188 00:07:39,725 --> 00:07:40,725 'cause we get to just talk about music 189 00:07:40,725 --> 00:07:41,965 we love and that's what we wanna do. Exactly. 190 00:07:42,105 --> 00:07:44,605 And I think that one thing that I've learned, um, 191 00:07:44,605 --> 00:07:46,325 during these last, during this year, 192 00:07:46,345 --> 00:07:50,965 and this this new format, is that stuff that is impactful 193 00:07:51,105 --> 00:07:52,885 to, to both of us, or, or, 194 00:07:52,985 --> 00:07:54,725 or one of us, um, 195 00:07:55,275 --> 00:07:57,845 sometimes doesn't land if you didn't 196 00:07:57,995 --> 00:07:59,045 come up with that music. 197 00:07:59,145 --> 00:08:00,885 And that's okay. You know what I mean? 198 00:08:00,885 --> 00:08:03,205 Like, we had a little bit with the Lauren Hill. 199 00:08:03,205 --> 00:08:04,925 There was, there was some folks that we heard from 200 00:08:04,925 --> 00:08:07,725 that was definitely like, ah, don't, don't get this album. 201 00:08:07,725 --> 00:08:10,165 And I never really, never really will. And that's okay. 202 00:08:10,165 --> 00:08:12,205 Yeah. You know what I mean? Some, some, some stuff. 203 00:08:12,365 --> 00:08:14,085 I mean like, is a Love Supreme 204 00:08:14,145 --> 00:08:16,605 by John Coltrane have to be for everybody. 205 00:08:16,905 --> 00:08:19,685 For everybody. Even like, uh, the Mount Rushmore 206 00:08:19,685 --> 00:08:21,925 of Greatest Jazz or any albums probably ever made. 207 00:08:22,305 --> 00:08:23,605 No, it doesn't have to be for everybody. 208 00:08:23,705 --> 00:08:25,725 You like what you like, you know what I mean? Yeah. 209 00:08:25,745 --> 00:08:29,245 Uh, the greatest Bordeaux wine, everybody says it's great, 210 00:08:29,245 --> 00:08:30,565 but if you don't like it, you don't like it. 211 00:08:30,585 --> 00:08:31,725 And so that's okay. 212 00:08:31,755 --> 00:08:34,405 Yeah. The only criteria is that is good. Yeah. It is good. 213 00:08:34,955 --> 00:08:35,685 Wait, you're kind of 214 00:08:35,685 --> 00:08:37,125 contradicting what I'm saying, but you know what I'm saying. 215 00:08:37,285 --> 00:08:38,405 I do know what you're saying. No. 216 00:08:38,425 --> 00:08:41,565 Um, speaking of good though. Yeah. Great. This is great. 217 00:08:41,635 --> 00:08:44,125 Yeah. What we're dealing with is great. I'm so interesting. 218 00:08:44,565 --> 00:08:46,485 Freaking excited for today. Dude. I 219 00:08:46,665 --> 00:08:47,665 You brought your own iPad. You 220 00:08:47,665 --> 00:08:49,085 said I brought excited my iPad. I 221 00:08:49,085 --> 00:08:50,085 Brought my own iPad. I brought 222 00:08:50,085 --> 00:08:51,325 my own mic. No. 223 00:08:51,345 --> 00:08:54,645 Um, man, so I'm late to Prince, I'm late to the game. 224 00:08:54,765 --> 00:08:55,985 I was a little too young. Yeah. 225 00:08:56,005 --> 00:08:57,505 To appreciate Prince, like the, 226 00:08:57,615 --> 00:08:59,825 Your mom and dad would if they, they, 227 00:08:59,885 --> 00:09:01,625 if they heard the lyrics, they were, 228 00:09:01,625 --> 00:09:03,625 and they suggested they were like a little young. 229 00:09:03,625 --> 00:09:06,025 Adam didn't need to be pushed ahead into puberty with 230 00:09:06,025 --> 00:09:07,025 That kind of stuff. My dad is an amazing 231 00:09:07,025 --> 00:09:07,425 guy. 232 00:09:07,495 --> 00:09:08,585 He's the sweetest man in the world, 233 00:09:08,645 --> 00:09:11,825 but he's a little too puritanical to let his son. 234 00:09:12,145 --> 00:09:13,745 Right. Especially when I was, 235 00:09:14,055 --> 00:09:16,105 when all this music came out. I was a child. 236 00:09:16,375 --> 00:09:18,305 Yeah. You were like three, four years old. 237 00:09:18,305 --> 00:09:20,185 Right. And, uh, there for 238 00:09:20,185 --> 00:09:21,185 You at that age. Nothing there 239 00:09:21,185 --> 00:09:22,985 for me. 'cause you know, prince famously, 240 00:09:24,065 --> 00:09:25,365 He makes people blush, the 241 00:09:25,525 --> 00:09:26,805 Horniest start of stuff all the time. 242 00:09:27,485 --> 00:09:29,445 Possibly. But That's what's so amazing about it, 243 00:09:29,445 --> 00:09:32,005 is he has this incredible cocktail of, like, his 244 00:09:32,045 --> 00:09:33,605 Horn sections were amazing. No. 245 00:09:33,605 --> 00:09:35,405 Yeah. He's got this incredible cocktail of like, 246 00:09:35,405 --> 00:09:37,365 this like, like sex, but like, 247 00:09:37,665 --> 00:09:40,685 but also this like real genuine care 248 00:09:40,685 --> 00:09:42,125 that he puts into the lyric. 249 00:09:42,125 --> 00:09:44,165 I mean, it's really, and this album in particular has like 250 00:09:44,445 --> 00:09:46,325 spiritual elements and all kinds of stuff to it. Was there 251 00:09:46,325 --> 00:09:49,085 An awkward combination of religion and sex? 252 00:09:49,115 --> 00:09:50,165 Yeah. And a lot of his music. 253 00:09:50,385 --> 00:09:51,765 And a lot of great music. That's true. 254 00:09:52,065 --> 00:09:53,485 But man, so like I said, you know, 255 00:09:53,485 --> 00:09:54,845 the first Prince I remember was Bat 256 00:09:54,845 --> 00:09:56,005 Dance from the Batman movie. 257 00:09:56,165 --> 00:09:58,125 'cause that was such a huge movie in my life. Right. 258 00:09:58,425 --> 00:10:01,445 And then I remember like Kiss, you know, 259 00:10:01,805 --> 00:10:03,285 a little bit from the radio and, 260 00:10:03,465 --> 00:10:05,765 and then seven, the song seven. Oh, all seven 261 00:10:06,145 --> 00:10:07,145 We watch. Yeah. That was 262 00:10:07,145 --> 00:10:07,765 me and my friends 263 00:10:07,765 --> 00:10:08,965 used to sing that or whatever. 264 00:10:09,165 --> 00:10:10,205 Yeah. In band class. 265 00:10:10,305 --> 00:10:12,885 But like, I was never into Early Prince. Yeah. 266 00:10:13,225 --> 00:10:14,965 And this what we're listening to Sign of The Times. 267 00:10:15,075 --> 00:10:16,085 It's not Early Prince. 268 00:10:16,115 --> 00:10:18,365 This is like him after he was already established. 269 00:10:18,365 --> 00:10:20,765 But I just wanna go on a little journey. Good. Yeah. 270 00:10:20,965 --> 00:10:22,045 'cause this is gonna get into when 271 00:10:22,045 --> 00:10:22,925 I first here from the beginning, because 272 00:10:22,925 --> 00:10:23,645 here's another thing I noticed. 273 00:10:23,705 --> 00:10:24,765 So I had a blind spot. Right? 274 00:10:24,825 --> 00:10:27,245 And, and I've since Fallen madly in love. Right? 275 00:10:27,245 --> 00:10:29,325 Like, I, I, I love this music so much. I was 276 00:10:29,325 --> 00:10:30,045 Lost. But now I'm 277 00:10:30,045 --> 00:10:32,605 Found like, to me all like, you know, uh, 278 00:10:32,715 --> 00:10:35,205 there's such a deep connection between Prince 279 00:10:35,305 --> 00:10:37,245 and James Brown, Marvin Gaye 280 00:10:37,335 --> 00:10:38,565 parliament, you know what I mean? 281 00:10:38,565 --> 00:10:41,245 Like Angela, all these artists, DeAngelo afterwards. 282 00:10:41,245 --> 00:10:42,325 Like there's all of these artists 283 00:10:42,325 --> 00:10:43,525 that are connected to Michael Jackson. 284 00:10:44,305 --> 00:10:47,245 And, uh, but I've noticed something. Mm. 285 00:10:47,245 --> 00:10:50,835 There's a certain window of millennial Mm. 286 00:10:51,335 --> 00:10:54,115 Mid millennial that doesn't understand Prince. Right. 287 00:10:54,115 --> 00:10:55,115 And they tell me about it. They're like, 288 00:10:55,115 --> 00:10:55,835 you know, I don't get it. 289 00:10:55,865 --> 00:10:57,115 I've never gotten into it. Half of 290 00:10:57,115 --> 00:10:58,635 This, half the staff, the staff, 291 00:10:58,635 --> 00:11:00,675 the production staff here falls squarely in that camp. 292 00:11:00,755 --> 00:11:02,115 I know. Except for shout out to producer Caleb, 293 00:11:02,215 --> 00:11:03,675 who when everybody's talking about 294 00:11:03,675 --> 00:11:06,715 how they don't get pri Prince Caleb gets a look 295 00:11:06,715 --> 00:11:10,195 of both confusion, anger, and sadness on his face. 296 00:11:11,015 --> 00:11:12,795 Not a real millennial. But 297 00:11:13,795 --> 00:11:16,635 I, I want to first just take us on a journey from the 298 00:11:16,635 --> 00:11:18,475 beginning Prince's career to sign of the Times. 299 00:11:18,575 --> 00:11:21,035 But then also, we're not gonna rush through this 300 00:11:21,035 --> 00:11:23,635 because I wanna make you, if you're not a Prince fan, 301 00:11:24,405 --> 00:11:26,115 we're gonna we're gonna do some work on that right now. 302 00:11:26,115 --> 00:11:28,315 That's right. And we're gonna start in 1978. 303 00:11:28,535 --> 00:11:29,795 He made this album when he was, 304 00:11:29,815 --> 00:11:32,155 he recorded this album when he was 19 years old. 305 00:11:32,465 --> 00:11:34,235 Came out right when he turned 20. Yep. 306 00:11:34,535 --> 00:11:37,395 And, uh, it's called for you 1978. 307 00:11:38,135 --> 00:11:40,715 And this is soft and wet. I already starting kind of dirty. 308 00:11:51,615 --> 00:11:53,445 Ah, well he'd learned to groove 309 00:11:53,715 --> 00:11:55,565 that part was instilled in him. 310 00:12:09,485 --> 00:12:11,885 I mean, that's all James Brown right there. Yeah. 311 00:12:11,885 --> 00:12:14,645 Can you put in a horn section and acoustic instruments. 312 00:12:14,645 --> 00:12:19,525 Right. A little bit 313 00:12:19,525 --> 00:12:21,685 of P funk, a little bit of Bernie Warrell 314 00:12:21,685 --> 00:12:23,485 with some those sin sounds, you know, lot of Bernie, 315 00:12:32,585 --> 00:12:33,685 I'm gonna try, I'm gonna crank the 316 00:12:33,685 --> 00:12:34,725 music today, buddy. I hope you don't 317 00:12:34,725 --> 00:12:35,725 Mind. Please. We, I gotta 318 00:12:35,725 --> 00:12:37,525 feel this is for you. Yeah. For you. 319 00:12:40,405 --> 00:12:44,925 I always forget about very wore Ls. 320 00:12:45,605 --> 00:12:46,485 19 years old man. Yeah, 321 00:12:50,465 --> 00:12:51,465 Man. This is a strong 322 00:12:51,465 --> 00:12:52,645 freshman output to 323 00:12:52,645 --> 00:12:53,645 The bridge. 324 00:12:58,465 --> 00:12:59,805 Little Disco beat going on 325 00:12:59,875 --> 00:13:00,875 78. 326 00:13:07,945 --> 00:13:11,045 Oh man. But man, it's like, it's got that disco bridge, 327 00:13:11,045 --> 00:13:13,325 but it's not dated or corny at Oh man. 328 00:13:13,645 --> 00:13:15,965 Ov his bridge. Did you hear that? He's back. 329 00:13:15,965 --> 00:13:17,205 Did you hear that? Just hold on back. 330 00:13:17,305 --> 00:13:18,805 I'm backing it up. Listen to this. 331 00:13:34,305 --> 00:13:35,525 Is that Ober? Oberheim? 332 00:13:40,345 --> 00:13:42,085 Ah, Man. What else is sounding 333 00:13:42,085 --> 00:13:43,725 like this in the late seventies? Very little. 334 00:13:43,945 --> 00:13:45,485 Was he playing everything on there already? 335 00:13:45,685 --> 00:13:46,765 I don't know if he was on this one. 336 00:13:46,765 --> 00:13:48,485 Someone in the comments. Here's the thing about Prince. 337 00:13:48,605 --> 00:13:49,845 A lot of Prince heads. A lot 338 00:13:49,845 --> 00:13:50,965 of people know everything about Prince. 339 00:13:51,065 --> 00:13:52,045 Let us know. Is Prince playing 340 00:13:52,045 --> 00:13:53,125 all the instruments on the full 341 00:13:53,125 --> 00:13:54,565 Dis disclosure, we're gonna screw up 342 00:13:54,565 --> 00:13:55,605 a lot of things. Please don't, 343 00:13:55,815 --> 00:13:56,815 Don't Princess. Oh yeah. Like I said, 344 00:13:56,815 --> 00:13:57,685 we weren't born with this. 345 00:13:57,935 --> 00:13:59,005 We've learned from it. 346 00:13:59,205 --> 00:14:00,525 I always forget that this was his first record. 347 00:14:00,685 --> 00:14:01,685 'cause I always think about probably 348 00:14:01,685 --> 00:14:02,725 what you're gonna play next. 349 00:14:02,985 --> 00:14:04,125 I'm not trying to push you there. Okay. 350 00:14:04,305 --> 00:14:05,845 Is I always think of that as his first record. 351 00:14:05,965 --> 00:14:08,085 I mean, I'm just picturing it and I'm excited that we're 352 00:14:08,085 --> 00:14:09,085 About to go there. I know I picture that I've, 353 00:14:09,085 --> 00:14:09,885 I've, I, because 354 00:14:09,885 --> 00:14:11,325 This was a great record, but this is not 355 00:14:11,405 --> 00:14:12,405 A big record for you. None of, 356 00:14:12,405 --> 00:14:14,525 actually, none of the first four albums 357 00:14:14,795 --> 00:14:16,285 that we're about to play were big records. 358 00:14:16,555 --> 00:14:19,005 They all made a little bit of, the next 359 00:14:19,145 --> 00:14:20,145 One was pretty big. Maybe 360 00:14:20,145 --> 00:14:20,965 a little later. Like 361 00:14:20,965 --> 00:14:23,525 after even up to like Purple Rain people going back to 362 00:14:23,645 --> 00:14:24,645 Rediscover. Hold on. Let's, 363 00:14:24,645 --> 00:14:25,045 let's 364 00:14:25,045 --> 00:14:26,045 Not Rush through it. Peter, I don't 365 00:14:26,045 --> 00:14:27,565 wanna rush through any of this, bro. 366 00:14:28,445 --> 00:14:29,685 I don't wanna rush through any of this. 367 00:14:29,795 --> 00:14:31,365 Okay. So that was for 368 00:14:31,365 --> 00:14:32,365 You. If you're listening and not 369 00:14:32,365 --> 00:14:32,485 watching, 370 00:14:32,485 --> 00:14:35,605 he just a adjusted his beanie stop. He adjusted his beanie. 371 00:14:35,985 --> 00:14:38,565 So that was for you, 1978. Yeah. 372 00:14:38,565 --> 00:14:41,405 That peaked at number 163 on the billboard. Yeah. 373 00:14:41,445 --> 00:14:42,685 I mean, that's Hot 100. Right. 374 00:14:43,265 --> 00:14:46,405 And one thing I want you to notice that up 375 00:14:46,405 --> 00:14:49,285 until Purple Rain, he makes an album a year. 376 00:14:49,615 --> 00:14:51,365 Every year. Yeah. And so 377 00:14:51,365 --> 00:14:52,885 that's 1978. He was working. He wasn't 378 00:14:52,915 --> 00:14:54,045 Good s**t, man. Come on. He's 379 00:14:54,045 --> 00:14:55,045 Working, man. 1979. 380 00:14:55,045 --> 00:14:57,405 1979. Self-titled Prince. Oh, 381 00:15:00,275 --> 00:15:01,275 What? Come on. 382 00:15:01,275 --> 00:15:01,675 383 00:15:06,515 --> 00:15:08,165 This was 70, 79. 384 00:15:11,425 --> 00:15:14,365 We got off the wall. Same here. I ain't got no 385 00:15:14,615 --> 00:15:15,615 Money. 386 00:15:20,785 --> 00:15:25,765 Ah, woo. He found it here. He found it here. 387 00:15:25,825 --> 00:15:26,825 Ah. But 388 00:15:34,125 --> 00:15:35,605 I could live here for three hours. 389 00:15:36,085 --> 00:15:37,645 I could honestly live here for three hours. Yeah. 390 00:15:37,705 --> 00:15:39,485 Off the wall. 79. That's good year. 391 00:15:42,385 --> 00:15:43,045 That's all 392 00:15:56,005 --> 00:15:57,005 I wanna be 11. This this big 393 00:15:57,005 --> 00:15:58,685 hit though. What? This went to number 11. 394 00:15:58,685 --> 00:16:00,405 Yeah. This was his first real, 395 00:16:00,405 --> 00:16:02,205 like splash into some things. But I 396 00:16:02,205 --> 00:16:04,765 Think r and b, this was probably one and this was high. 397 00:16:14,145 --> 00:16:15,525 All That false stuff, man. 398 00:16:16,465 --> 00:16:18,125 The string pads high. 399 00:16:23,585 --> 00:16:23,805 But 400 00:16:23,805 --> 00:16:25,485 There's so many details happening here. 401 00:16:25,515 --> 00:16:27,325 There's so much nuance happening here 402 00:16:27,345 --> 00:16:29,205 for such a young artist. Yeah. 403 00:16:29,205 --> 00:16:30,885 Number one on Art US R Beat. 404 00:16:31,115 --> 00:16:32,765 Amazing. Yeah. For such a young artist. 405 00:16:33,005 --> 00:16:34,445 I mean, I can only think of MJ 406 00:16:34,445 --> 00:16:36,245 and Stevie as like the equivalent of this. 407 00:16:36,335 --> 00:16:39,005 Right. And especially, he is playing, I don't know 408 00:16:39,705 --> 00:16:41,125 if he's playing everything on everything, 409 00:16:41,185 --> 00:16:42,965 but he is playing drums on a lot of stuff. 410 00:16:42,965 --> 00:16:43,765 He's playing obviously 411 00:16:43,765 --> 00:16:44,845 guitar and a lot of stuff he's playing. 412 00:16:44,995 --> 00:16:47,205 He's an amazing, uh, keyboard. Keyboard player. 413 00:16:47,515 --> 00:16:49,125 He's playing all that stuff. Production. 414 00:16:49,465 --> 00:16:52,925 And obviously like vocals, background vocals. Vocals. 415 00:16:52,925 --> 00:16:54,525 He's an all timer as we're gonna hear 416 00:16:54,525 --> 00:16:55,685 this whole episode. But 417 00:16:55,685 --> 00:16:57,885 It's interesting because like you're saying, so 418 00:17:03,545 --> 00:17:06,405 Ah, Man, that's gotta be, we 419 00:17:11,135 --> 00:17:12,135 Makes you want to dip. 420 00:17:20,115 --> 00:17:21,325 Okay. So, but you're 421 00:17:21,325 --> 00:17:22,685 mentioning Stevie and Michael Jackson. 422 00:17:23,545 --> 00:17:26,925 So he's younger. Is he younger than Michael? 423 00:17:26,955 --> 00:17:28,285 Yeah, he's younger than Michael. A little. 424 00:17:28,425 --> 00:17:31,245 But the other thing is like, he's much younger than like, 425 00:17:31,475 --> 00:17:33,445 even either one of them at this age. 426 00:17:33,445 --> 00:17:35,005 Michael Jackson, Stevie wanted to think about 427 00:17:35,005 --> 00:17:37,245 how many more records they'd made. Like 15 428 00:17:38,165 --> 00:17:39,125 Probably by the time. Yeah, 429 00:17:39,125 --> 00:17:40,125 By the time they're 19. But he's, 430 00:17:40,125 --> 00:17:41,005 this is what I'm saying though. 431 00:17:41,005 --> 00:17:43,365 Peter, uh, prince is about to go on a run here. Yeah. 432 00:17:43,365 --> 00:17:44,765 Where he's getting in the reps. But 433 00:17:44,765 --> 00:17:45,765 This is still, that's a sophomore. That's 434 00:17:45,765 --> 00:17:46,725 his sophomore. Sophomore. 435 00:17:46,785 --> 00:17:48,045 And I always thought for years, I thought 436 00:17:48,045 --> 00:17:49,045 that was his first record. 437 00:17:49,155 --> 00:17:50,405 Yeah. I, I always just, 'cause 438 00:17:50,405 --> 00:17:51,565 that was the first one I was aware of. 439 00:17:51,675 --> 00:17:54,325 It's self-titled too. Yeah. So that's 78, 79. Oh, 440 00:17:54,345 --> 00:17:55,845 That's go to m Here's 80. 441 00:17:58,825 --> 00:18:02,725 Ah, come on. He turned the page on the decade too. 442 00:18:02,725 --> 00:18:05,725 You hear that? Yeah. 1980s. I got you. 443 00:18:08,395 --> 00:18:09,445 This is from Dirty Mind. 444 00:18:09,445 --> 00:18:11,925 This is one of the dirtiest albums. Yeah. 445 00:18:12,635 --> 00:18:14,005 It's just like, oh, 446 00:18:14,005 --> 00:18:15,925 we're gonna sex up albums of all time, time at time. 447 00:18:15,955 --> 00:18:16,955 This is called Head. 448 00:18:17,835 --> 00:18:18,845 Yeah. I mean, you know, 449 00:18:24,745 --> 00:18:25,525 listen to that. 450 00:18:28,505 --> 00:18:31,445 Ah, Man is James Brown 451 00:18:31,465 --> 00:18:33,765 or Parliament at this point, A bigger influence on him. 452 00:18:34,305 --> 00:18:34,885 You can hear both. 453 00:18:35,145 --> 00:18:39,805 So, and 454 00:18:39,805 --> 00:18:42,045 Then, but also Commodore Earth went and fire 455 00:18:42,305 --> 00:18:44,445 Marvin Gaye, Marvin local stuff, you know. 456 00:18:44,585 --> 00:18:48,805 Oh yeah, of course. Jimmy Hendrix. 457 00:18:57,165 --> 00:18:58,925 Everything's on the one then. Everything's on the, 458 00:19:01,465 --> 00:19:02,465 Huh. 459 00:19:05,025 --> 00:19:06,025 So 460 00:19:12,255 --> 00:19:13,255 Crazy. It's crazy. 461 00:19:13,255 --> 00:19:14,445 We'll listen to that on this podcast. 462 00:19:14,885 --> 00:19:16,125 Honestly, it makes me so happy. Yeah. 463 00:19:16,305 --> 00:19:19,885 Uh, okay, so that's, so now we've done 78, 79, 80. 464 00:19:20,225 --> 00:19:21,225 Here's 81. 465 00:19:22,185 --> 00:19:25,605 Oh, come on. Now. This is where I became Uber aware. 466 00:19:25,605 --> 00:19:26,925 My sister, sister. This is unbelievable. 467 00:19:27,025 --> 00:19:28,885 My sister blast this from the bedroom next door 468 00:19:30,035 --> 00:19:31,565 Singing into a hairbrush kind of style. 469 00:19:31,565 --> 00:19:33,725 Yeah. Oh, come on. This is controversy from the album. 470 00:19:33,725 --> 00:19:34,725 Controversy. 471 00:19:35,555 --> 00:19:36,645 This was a breakthrough here. 472 00:19:39,955 --> 00:19:42,605 Like What a sound he's developed in these four years. 473 00:19:43,145 --> 00:19:44,405 You know what I mean? You have the 474 00:19:44,405 --> 00:19:45,405 Wiggle. Oh, man. Come 475 00:19:45,405 --> 00:19:45,845 on, wiggle. 476 00:19:45,915 --> 00:19:46,685 What a sound. 477 00:19:59,265 --> 00:20:00,285 And you can, can hear. Actually 478 00:20:00,555 --> 00:20:01,925 Everybody was thinking this. You can 479 00:20:01,925 --> 00:20:04,085 Hear Michael Jackson pull from this later. 480 00:20:04,085 --> 00:20:06,365 Yeah. Honestly, on some thriller 481 00:20:06,365 --> 00:20:07,365 Stuff. That was 10 years old 482 00:20:07,365 --> 00:20:07,565 then. 483 00:20:07,565 --> 00:20:08,925 But I, I, I remember this like, 484 00:20:08,925 --> 00:20:12,845 it was 11. 485 00:20:13,005 --> 00:20:14,005 I was 11. 486 00:20:18,225 --> 00:20:20,805 Ah, come on now. My Sister was 14. 487 00:20:21,785 --> 00:20:25,445 Oh, it's right in your wheelhouse. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 488 00:20:25,445 --> 00:20:26,925 Like I said, man, I missed all this. Yeah. 489 00:20:27,115 --> 00:20:29,125 I've just discovered it like, as a grownup. 490 00:20:35,655 --> 00:20:36,925 We're not going anywhere, by the way. 491 00:20:37,175 --> 00:20:38,125 Don't try to go anywhere. 492 00:20:39,185 --> 00:20:40,405 You gotta live in this for a minute. Oh 493 00:20:40,405 --> 00:20:41,405 Man. I, dude, I'm here 494 00:20:41,405 --> 00:20:42,725 for, I'm here for the 495 00:20:44,075 --> 00:20:45,285 till the light Bill runs out. 496 00:20:46,195 --> 00:20:47,445 Country Fish. Cy 497 00:20:51,185 --> 00:20:54,525 Man, this is such, he'd already developed like his, 498 00:20:54,525 --> 00:20:57,565 like releases and his bridges, the way he would do that. 499 00:20:57,565 --> 00:20:58,765 It became a hallmark of like, 500 00:20:58,765 --> 00:21:00,485 how he would song write, like with the, with the harmony. 501 00:21:00,715 --> 00:21:02,445 Like, 'cause he is just like grooving. Yeah. 502 00:21:02,545 --> 00:21:05,125 You know, JB style and release, like take 503 00:21:05,145 --> 00:21:06,645 and then like take it to the bridge chord. 504 00:21:06,835 --> 00:21:09,725 Yeah, for sure. But he wouldn't be necessarily 505 00:21:09,725 --> 00:21:10,805 going into like Dominic Chords. 506 00:21:10,995 --> 00:21:13,365 It'd be real like major optimist. Like here, 507 00:21:20,465 --> 00:21:20,685 all 508 00:21:20,685 --> 00:21:21,685 The guitar playing. 509 00:21:22,685 --> 00:21:25,645 Sloppy, sloppy, nasty, dirty snare. 510 00:21:28,345 --> 00:21:33,125 Ah, come on. Details. Details. Damn. 511 00:21:37,935 --> 00:21:41,525 We're still on the one. Oh, scratch chicken, chicken grease. 512 00:21:41,595 --> 00:21:42,125 Come on. 513 00:21:48,305 --> 00:21:49,485 But we're starting to get a little more, 514 00:21:52,165 --> 00:21:53,325 a little stink of patient in there. 515 00:21:53,325 --> 00:21:56,845 Right. That guitar that's giving it rhythm guitar. 516 00:22:07,505 --> 00:22:09,365 Man. This is a lot of just sitting on a, 517 00:22:10,435 --> 00:22:12,085 what else do you need, man, for a big hit. 518 00:22:12,115 --> 00:22:13,485 What else do we need? Yeah, 519 00:22:13,485 --> 00:22:15,245 but this stuff doesn't usually this was big. 520 00:22:15,305 --> 00:22:17,645 So this album was, uh, made it all the way up to 521 00:22:18,225 --> 00:22:19,605 21 on the billboard. 522 00:22:19,605 --> 00:22:24,045 203 on the r and b albums Controversy. Made it to 70 Man. 523 00:22:24,045 --> 00:22:27,165 I was Baby six. I mean, that's so big, man. Let's Work. 524 00:22:27,165 --> 00:22:28,245 Made It to Nine from this album. 525 00:22:28,265 --> 00:22:29,565 So he is having hit singles. 526 00:22:30,075 --> 00:22:33,805 He's having hit albums. 527 00:22:34,875 --> 00:22:35,875 Then 528 00:22:36,825 --> 00:22:40,765 We knew Like he has a, he has a pretty big hit here. 529 00:22:41,105 --> 00:22:46,005 Oh, you ever heard of it? Next year? The next year? 530 00:22:46,025 --> 00:22:47,025 No, 531 00:22:47,835 --> 00:22:50,245 This is when The Devil Was, was in in Style. 532 00:22:51,365 --> 00:22:55,405 A lot of demonic movies. Everybody like Halloween. Yeah. 533 00:22:55,405 --> 00:22:57,245 Freddie Krueger was little oily for Fisher 534 00:22:57,795 --> 00:22:59,485 Roll playing game panics. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 535 00:22:59,485 --> 00:23:00,485 Yeah. 536 00:23:01,705 --> 00:23:02,705 Oui boards. 537 00:23:08,385 --> 00:23:13,165 Listen To that. Yeah. Maybe a early Lynn Lynn. 538 00:23:13,165 --> 00:23:17,605 But yeah. And some real symbols though, right? 539 00:23:18,195 --> 00:23:23,165 Yeah. That's a link. 540 00:23:23,545 --> 00:23:28,005 Oh my God. Come on, man. That's thick. That's swampy. 541 00:23:28,155 --> 00:23:29,485 Look swampy, right? Listen, hold 542 00:23:29,485 --> 00:23:30,445 On, hold on. Back it up. Listen 543 00:23:30,445 --> 00:23:31,445 To this. They got swamped up in 544 00:23:31,445 --> 00:23:31,925 Minnesota. 545 00:23:41,405 --> 00:23:44,245 I know. That's all, that's 546 00:23:44,245 --> 00:23:45,245 All program, right? They got on lakes. 547 00:23:45,245 --> 00:23:46,125 I mean, you might have 548 00:23:46,225 --> 00:23:47,365 to cleanse yourself in the, 549 00:23:48,065 --> 00:23:50,005 The lakes of the, the, the cleansing waters. 550 00:23:50,065 --> 00:23:50,805 The waters of Lake Lake. 551 00:23:58,355 --> 00:23:59,725 This is 1999 from 552 00:23:59,725 --> 00:24:02,005 The album 1999, which is from 1982. 553 00:24:02,455 --> 00:24:02,805 Right. 554 00:24:08,105 --> 00:24:10,805 The purple has made its way into the equation here. This is 555 00:24:10,805 --> 00:24:11,805 Crazy though. None of these were 556 00:24:11,805 --> 00:24:13,925 number one hits 557 00:24:13,925 --> 00:24:14,925 Yet. No, I know. That's 558 00:24:14,925 --> 00:24:16,605 what I saying. It took them a minute. 559 00:24:20,675 --> 00:24:21,885 Well, shout out Nancy Bar. 560 00:24:21,885 --> 00:24:24,525 They were number one hits on the, on my wing of our house. 561 00:24:24,745 --> 00:24:26,365 Is this drag good taste? No, that was years. 562 00:24:26,905 --> 00:24:31,885 It felt like it was, I 563 00:24:32,085 --> 00:24:34,565 remember, man, this was such a, oh my God. 564 00:24:34,885 --> 00:24:37,725 1999 Y 2K. It's never gonna happen. It turned 565 00:24:37,725 --> 00:24:38,725 Out even well in 82. No 566 00:24:38,725 --> 00:24:40,765 one's talking Y 2K. No one's thinking about that. 567 00:24:40,765 --> 00:24:42,445 There's no computers. Well, like in the nineties, 568 00:24:42,465 --> 00:24:43,645 we all started talking about it, 569 00:24:43,665 --> 00:24:44,885 but like, even a, I remember, 570 00:24:44,905 --> 00:24:45,905 But you, you're still scared of it. Look, 571 00:24:45,905 --> 00:24:46,725 you're still a little, like, 572 00:24:46,925 --> 00:24:47,805 a little freaky. It could come back. 573 00:24:48,205 --> 00:24:50,485 I mean, I'm not convinced that the world didn't end. 574 00:24:50,625 --> 00:24:53,325 And everything since then has been a kind of a after. 575 00:24:53,425 --> 00:24:54,325 You know what I mean? Right, right. 576 00:24:54,325 --> 00:24:54,805 And we'll talk about that. 577 00:24:54,805 --> 00:24:55,845 That's a different podcast. Well, 578 00:24:55,845 --> 00:24:57,885 If we go to the deluxe version of sign times, go 579 00:24:57,885 --> 00:25:00,805 to like CD number 18, there might be some backwards. 580 00:25:00,825 --> 00:25:01,965 That's true. Scrolls talking 581 00:25:01,965 --> 00:25:02,965 About that. Okay. So just, 582 00:25:02,965 --> 00:25:04,605 just to recap here where we're at. Yeah. 583 00:25:04,605 --> 00:25:07,325 So 78, he's 19. He releases for you. 584 00:25:07,325 --> 00:25:08,885 79 the next year, prince. 585 00:25:09,105 --> 00:25:11,125 I'm nine 80 the next year. Dirty Mind. I'm 586 00:25:11,125 --> 00:25:11,405 10. I'm 587 00:25:11,405 --> 00:25:12,405 10 81. The next year. 588 00:25:12,405 --> 00:25:15,165 Controversy 82 the next year. 99. Yeah. 589 00:25:15,305 --> 00:25:17,725 He takes a year off to make a movie. Ever heard of it? 590 00:25:17,905 --> 00:25:19,325 And becomes one of the biggest, his first movie. 591 00:25:19,745 --> 00:25:20,845 One of the biggest stars in the world 592 00:25:20,845 --> 00:25:22,005 with a soundtrack. This 593 00:25:22,005 --> 00:25:23,005 Was big. This was big. 594 00:25:23,005 --> 00:25:23,365 595 00:25:25,515 --> 00:25:26,525 This is also incredible. 596 00:25:29,185 --> 00:25:31,565 Now we're going to the shores of Lake Minnetonka. 597 00:25:31,565 --> 00:25:33,645 Right? We really are. Yeah. Shout out Minnesota. 598 00:25:33,655 --> 00:25:35,725 Shout out Minneapolis. I'm jealous 599 00:25:35,785 --> 00:25:36,925 of Minneapolis. That they have 600 00:25:36,925 --> 00:25:38,045 First Avenue. I played a 601 00:25:38,045 --> 00:25:39,045 Gig there. Hey, that's 602 00:25:39,045 --> 00:25:39,465 603 00:25:41,985 --> 00:25:43,085 Now, that's Lin Drum. 604 00:25:50,015 --> 00:25:51,015 I never, 605 00:25:54,275 --> 00:25:55,615 Is This a power ballad? 606 00:25:56,245 --> 00:25:58,855 Yeah. Is it folk? Is it Blues? 607 00:25:59,255 --> 00:26:01,455 RBRB Pop. 608 00:26:02,285 --> 00:26:04,895 It's Prince. Yeah. But it's kind of power ballad. 609 00:26:13,725 --> 00:26:14,725 Take it to the four. 610 00:26:30,095 --> 00:26:32,295 I love that change there. Going to the six and the five. 611 00:26:33,725 --> 00:26:35,215 It's gospel too, Right? It's gospel. 612 00:26:35,355 --> 00:26:36,355 Go to the dominant. 613 00:26:48,225 --> 00:26:50,165 That's a weird way to do it. So, great. 614 00:26:50,785 --> 00:26:53,245 That's a weird, I mean, it's a typical to one, 615 00:26:53,465 --> 00:26:54,965 but the timing of is genius. 616 00:26:55,075 --> 00:26:57,205 Have you ever played this song with anybody? Well, at 617 00:26:57,205 --> 00:27:00,525 A Lenny Clear gig, I think I did back in the late, 618 00:27:00,885 --> 00:27:02,685 actually not that long after this. I think 619 00:27:03,005 --> 00:27:05,965 R Linda Klinger, shadow link, cl uh, wedding band. 620 00:27:05,965 --> 00:27:07,325 King of St. Louis, Missouri. Yeah. Yeah. 621 00:27:07,445 --> 00:27:08,445 I definitely played it on those too. 622 00:27:08,445 --> 00:27:10,685 But I played it in other circumstances, like as a cover 623 00:27:10,685 --> 00:27:13,485 with some, with Anita Jackson here on a show 624 00:27:13,485 --> 00:27:14,565 with our dear uh, friend, 625 00:27:14,705 --> 00:27:16,125 Montes Coleman, who we lost a couple years ago. 626 00:27:16,425 --> 00:27:19,935 And the audience, whenever I've played this 627 00:27:19,935 --> 00:27:21,295 song, flips Yeah. 628 00:27:21,475 --> 00:27:23,135 Out everybody's singing. Cigarette 629 00:27:23,135 --> 00:27:24,655 Lighter, cigarette Lighter, non-smokers. 630 00:27:24,855 --> 00:27:26,255 I mean, it's just amazing. Yeah. And then, then, 631 00:27:26,255 --> 00:27:27,615 then famously, you know, prince, 632 00:27:27,615 --> 00:27:29,615 before he passed away, played the Super Bowl a few years 633 00:27:29,615 --> 00:27:32,055 before and started playing this song. 634 00:27:32,125 --> 00:27:33,495 It's literally started raining. 635 00:27:33,835 --> 00:27:36,375 He, it's one of the great, it is the greatest Super Bowl 636 00:27:36,375 --> 00:27:37,375 halftime show of all time. 637 00:27:37,375 --> 00:27:40,815 Yeah. And, uh, I mean, what a performer. What a performer. 638 00:27:40,815 --> 00:27:42,975 What a what a album. Purple. We're an artist. 639 00:27:43,185 --> 00:27:44,975 We're not even there to sign the Times date. 640 00:27:44,975 --> 00:27:46,815 We still have two more. So this is, we're 641 00:27:46,815 --> 00:27:47,855 Not, we're not at Peak. 642 00:27:48,085 --> 00:27:50,135 Well Sign Times Peak. We're gonna talk 643 00:27:50,135 --> 00:27:51,855 About that's he's peaking with his, like his celebrity 644 00:27:51,955 --> 00:27:53,895 and the hits and all that stuff. You know, this 645 00:27:53,895 --> 00:27:55,855 Was big, big, big, big, big crossover. 646 00:27:55,855 --> 00:27:57,655 This is got, yeah. Number one Billboard. Yeah. 647 00:27:57,655 --> 00:28:00,295 Purple Rain was his first number one billboard. Hot 200. 648 00:28:00,795 --> 00:28:02,375 Uh, stayed at the top of the charts 649 00:28:02,475 --> 00:28:04,615 for 20, 24 consecutive weeks, 650 00:28:04,625 --> 00:28:06,375 which is half a year, which is insane. 651 00:28:06,795 --> 00:28:10,455 And was on the charts for 167 weeks. That's right. Folks. 652 00:28:10,845 --> 00:28:12,695 Over three years on the billboard. I mean, 653 00:28:12,695 --> 00:28:15,095 It wasn't Thriller, but it was close. 654 00:28:15,485 --> 00:28:18,055 Like, close. Like if it, like, thriller is just such a, 655 00:28:18,055 --> 00:28:20,055 I mean, in terms of like sales and just like being 656 00:28:20,245 --> 00:28:22,255 omnipresent, crossing over to Yeah. 657 00:28:22,255 --> 00:28:25,455 To pretty much all different types of folks in the us. 658 00:28:25,965 --> 00:28:27,775 This was huge in uk all, all around the world. 659 00:28:27,775 --> 00:28:30,175 But I mean, it wasn't, had it not been for Thriller, 660 00:28:30,175 --> 00:28:31,975 this would've been seen as like, just such a mass. 661 00:28:32,045 --> 00:28:35,095 It's still was seen. I mean, it, it captured the, the kind 662 00:28:35,095 --> 00:28:38,295 of cultural zeitgeist in a way that was pretty stunning. 663 00:28:38,575 --> 00:28:41,015 I was, what are we at 13? Yeah. 13, 14 years 664 00:28:41,015 --> 00:28:42,015 Old. 1985. 665 00:28:42,015 --> 00:28:44,255 He follows it up with Prince and The Revolution. 666 00:28:44,275 --> 00:28:46,735 The first album that's billed is Prince and The Revolution. 667 00:28:46,735 --> 00:28:47,935 This is around the world in the day. 668 00:28:48,235 --> 00:28:51,135 You might know this song from it. Listen to the production. 669 00:28:51,135 --> 00:28:54,575 The production is changed. It's a lot of drippy, wet digital 670 00:28:55,115 --> 00:28:59,055 sounds happening, which becomes kind 671 00:28:59,055 --> 00:29:00,255 of his signature of this era. 672 00:29:00,255 --> 00:29:01,935 Yeah. Yeah. This is Raspberry Beret, 673 00:29:18,515 --> 00:29:19,255 Mr. McGee. 674 00:29:20,035 --> 00:29:20,255 He, 675 00:29:33,315 --> 00:29:34,775 Man, this record was great. 676 00:29:35,275 --> 00:29:37,935 Um, and oh, it was number one too. Okay. So there you go. 677 00:29:38,015 --> 00:29:39,455 I was gonna say, I, I like this 678 00:29:40,485 --> 00:29:42,455 felt like a little bit of a falloff after. 679 00:29:42,485 --> 00:29:44,295 Well, I mean, Purple Rain was so huge. Yeah. 680 00:29:44,295 --> 00:29:45,335 This was, yeah, this was Big too. 681 00:29:45,365 --> 00:29:46,895 It's, I mean, bad felt like a fall 682 00:29:46,895 --> 00:29:48,095 off from Thriller, you know what I mean? 683 00:29:48,095 --> 00:29:50,415 Yeah. Like, yeah. Uh, but this one of my favorites. 684 00:29:50,415 --> 00:29:51,935 Parade again with the revolution. 685 00:29:55,075 --> 00:29:56,295 Go back to what works. Yeah. 686 00:29:56,295 --> 00:29:58,655 Let's go back dry. That's right. Right. 687 00:29:58,655 --> 00:30:00,295 Is it a wet dry Wet dry? 688 00:30:01,195 --> 00:30:03,815 You don't have to be. Oh man. 689 00:30:03,835 --> 00:30:05,775 One of the greatest vocal performances. Chris Blackwell is 690 00:30:05,915 --> 00:30:07,175 one of the greatest vocal performances 691 00:30:07,275 --> 00:30:08,275 Of all time. 692 00:30:08,525 --> 00:30:09,525 Yeah. I mean, he's like 693 00:30:11,885 --> 00:30:13,575 Obviously A master of the falsetto, 694 00:30:13,635 --> 00:30:18,615 but like the control pronunciation, the phrase 695 00:30:25,345 --> 00:30:27,495 Again, I think the LinnDrum here in full effect, right? 696 00:30:27,495 --> 00:30:27,695 Yeah. 697 00:30:32,435 --> 00:30:33,615 Man. The close mic. 698 00:30:33,775 --> 00:30:35,975 I mean, his relationship with the, his, 699 00:30:35,975 --> 00:30:37,215 my Technique very good. 700 00:30:41,935 --> 00:30:43,775 Famously recorded 24 hours a day. 701 00:30:43,915 --> 00:30:46,935 So you expect it to be good for days on end. 702 00:30:48,235 --> 00:30:50,415 And then he's making waffles, pancakes. 703 00:30:55,335 --> 00:30:57,095 I mean, he says, you don't have to be cool 704 00:30:57,675 --> 00:31:00,255 to rule my world, but I'm guaranteeing every girl that was 705 00:31:00,255 --> 00:31:02,215 with him was probably pretty cool. I'm just saying out. 706 00:31:02,305 --> 00:31:04,735 Right. Right. We might listen to this whole thing. 707 00:31:04,895 --> 00:31:06,215 'cause the vocals at the end go, 708 00:31:06,605 --> 00:31:07,605 Have we got to the Parade album? 709 00:31:09,145 --> 00:31:09,495 We're, 710 00:31:19,355 --> 00:31:20,615 You know what's It's just about this. 711 00:31:21,085 --> 00:31:23,295 It's the blues, by the Way. Yeah, it is a blues. 712 00:31:23,325 --> 00:31:25,735 There's almost no base. You notice that? 713 00:31:26,765 --> 00:31:27,815 Yeah. There's not, there's 714 00:31:27,815 --> 00:31:29,255 A little bit of like, hint at it, I think. 715 00:31:31,865 --> 00:31:33,375 Which is weird. Like, how would that work? 716 00:31:39,165 --> 00:31:39,735 Five, four. 717 00:31:46,245 --> 00:31:47,245 This is 718 00:31:50,475 --> 00:31:50,695 Man, 719 00:31:59,845 --> 00:32:00,845 Some JB right here. 720 00:32:14,255 --> 00:32:16,295 I wish I could do that. I wish I had so hard. 721 00:32:16,295 --> 00:32:18,815 I could do that. You can't, I can't get even close to the 722 00:32:24,845 --> 00:32:25,845 What? 723 00:32:32,035 --> 00:32:32,575 Woo w 724 00:32:39,785 --> 00:32:40,005 man. 725 00:32:40,115 --> 00:32:44,885 He's de deru deconstructing that blues form. So, so cool. 726 00:32:44,985 --> 00:32:45,985 Man. 727 00:32:46,985 --> 00:32:49,445 Age, not your Great 728 00:32:49,445 --> 00:32:51,645 Insult at your age, not your shoe size. 729 00:32:53,625 --> 00:32:57,965 You don't Got that kind 730 00:32:57,965 --> 00:32:59,645 of like, like marimba sound. You hear that? 731 00:33:00,515 --> 00:33:00,805 Yeah. 732 00:33:05,315 --> 00:33:07,925 Then he's Staying on the one at weird Places, then goes 733 00:33:10,275 --> 00:33:11,325 This run here at the end. 734 00:33:11,665 --> 00:33:13,805 Oh. Oh, wait, Wait, wait. Back up just a second. 735 00:33:13,985 --> 00:33:16,605 Now listen to his voice. You don't have 736 00:33:16,605 --> 00:33:21,605 to, you don't have to be rich. 737 00:33:21,645 --> 00:33:22,645 Listen to the young, 738 00:33:29,795 --> 00:33:30,795 It's crazy. Yeah. 739 00:33:30,795 --> 00:33:31,275 740 00:33:44,235 --> 00:33:46,845 Kiss. Greatest, greatest ending. 741 00:33:48,545 --> 00:33:50,085 Oh. And just going out. Just the 742 00:33:50,125 --> 00:33:50,965 Greatest Fade out. All of 743 00:33:50,965 --> 00:33:52,125 The kisses were like Kiss. 744 00:33:52,505 --> 00:33:53,965 And then the last one, kiss. Kiss. 745 00:33:54,625 --> 00:33:56,405 So Ask your boy, 746 00:33:57,395 --> 00:33:58,395 Talk to your boy. To 747 00:33:58,395 --> 00:33:59,305 your boy. 748 00:34:00,465 --> 00:34:03,685 Oh man. Episode over, No episode. 749 00:34:03,955 --> 00:34:05,525 Just starting, because that's, 750 00:34:05,525 --> 00:34:06,525 We're just up to 85. That's 751 00:34:06,525 --> 00:34:08,685 86. And now, well, that was 86, 87. 752 00:34:09,065 --> 00:34:10,285 And Prince is gonna release 753 00:34:10,555 --> 00:34:14,165 what would become an album I had actually never heard of 754 00:34:14,165 --> 00:34:15,285 until a few years ago. 755 00:34:15,345 --> 00:34:17,725 Mm. Because like I said, I wasn't a Prince head growing up. 756 00:34:17,725 --> 00:34:19,045 I've come to it later in life. 757 00:34:19,425 --> 00:34:21,925 Of course, I heard Purple Rain. Of course I heard Kiss. 758 00:34:22,025 --> 00:34:24,005 Of course I heard 1999. Yeah. 759 00:34:24,045 --> 00:34:26,045 I played all those, you know, learning music growing up 760 00:34:26,045 --> 00:34:27,405 or whatever, and in different bands. 761 00:34:27,405 --> 00:34:28,405 And you thought scenario, 762 00:34:28,405 --> 00:34:29,485 He just, the career ended then and 763 00:34:29,485 --> 00:34:31,005 he went to the old folks home. No, 764 00:34:31,005 --> 00:34:33,725 But uh, but discovering this album has been a real joy. 765 00:34:33,745 --> 00:34:35,125 So, side of the Times, you know, 766 00:34:35,125 --> 00:34:37,205 the Revolution is about to break up here. 767 00:34:37,205 --> 00:34:38,805 Yeah. Between 86 and 87. 768 00:34:39,505 --> 00:34:42,325 And, and he's gonna make, he's gonna try 769 00:34:42,325 --> 00:34:44,885 to make like three different albums. 770 00:34:44,885 --> 00:34:47,165 Yeah. So Side of the Times comprises tracks 771 00:34:47,165 --> 00:34:48,765 that are recorded for three different projects 772 00:34:48,765 --> 00:34:49,925 that were later abandoned. 773 00:34:50,065 --> 00:34:53,485 Yep. One called Dream Factory, one called Camille, 774 00:34:53,485 --> 00:34:55,925 which we're gonna get into, 'cause Camille's all over this 775 00:34:55,925 --> 00:34:58,045 album, uh, which was named Camille is the 776 00:34:58,045 --> 00:34:59,125 name of his alter Ego. 777 00:34:59,265 --> 00:35:01,045 Uh, a gender Fluid Alter Ego, 778 00:35:01,305 --> 00:35:04,365 and then a triple album called Crystal Ball. And he, 779 00:35:04,365 --> 00:35:06,285 Which warn of the Brothers, which he finished, I believe. 780 00:35:06,285 --> 00:35:08,205 That's insane. And Warner Brothers was just like, no, 781 00:35:08,345 --> 00:35:09,525 no triple albums buddy. 782 00:35:09,945 --> 00:35:11,605 So many of the songs on on Side of The Times shout 783 00:35:11,625 --> 00:35:12,725 Out Warner Brothers. Yeah, no, 784 00:35:13,085 --> 00:35:15,205 W wa many of the songs on Side of the Times were recorded 785 00:35:15,265 --> 00:35:16,725 for Camille in 1986. 786 00:35:16,755 --> 00:35:20,645 Yeah. And yeah, it's, uh, there's, we'll talk about Camille, 787 00:35:20,925 --> 00:35:24,045 but, um, so he disbanded the, but this whole 788 00:35:24,045 --> 00:35:25,045 Thing, The name re Princes 789 00:35:25,045 --> 00:35:28,805 and, excuse me, and Androgynous Alter Ego. 790 00:35:29,065 --> 00:35:31,205 Did Prince never actually said that though, did he? 791 00:35:31,245 --> 00:35:33,085 I don't, I mean, it was so vague at the time. 792 00:35:33,385 --> 00:35:34,325 It was very vague. I think some of this 793 00:35:34,325 --> 00:35:35,365 is a little bit revisionist. 794 00:35:35,505 --> 00:35:38,685 His, he's a master storyteller with his persona. Yeah. His 795 00:35:38,685 --> 00:35:39,685 Persona is actor. Or maybe 796 00:35:39,685 --> 00:35:41,485 not, who knows. But it was never like, hello, 797 00:35:41,485 --> 00:35:42,845 this is Camille, my alter ego. 798 00:35:42,845 --> 00:35:44,485 It was just, we just sort of accepted it 799 00:35:44,485 --> 00:35:45,685 that it was like, oh, that's his thing. 800 00:35:45,985 --> 00:35:47,365 So this was a big hit, 801 00:35:47,365 --> 00:35:49,005 but it wasn't as huge of a hit as Purple Rain. 802 00:35:49,005 --> 00:35:50,365 It reached number six on the US Billboard 803 00:35:50,365 --> 00:35:51,525 200, number four on the r and b. 804 00:35:51,525 --> 00:35:53,685 It sold 5.25 million copies, 805 00:35:53,685 --> 00:35:55,765 which right now it sounds like an 806 00:35:56,045 --> 00:35:57,205 unbelievable amount of albums sold. 807 00:35:57,305 --> 00:35:58,805 Oh, 5.2 million streams. That's not 808 00:35:58,805 --> 00:35:59,805 Bad. But compared to 809 00:35:59,805 --> 00:36:01,885 other albums that he made it, it wasn't, 810 00:36:02,165 --> 00:36:03,205 I mean, it says still really big. 811 00:36:03,625 --> 00:36:05,125 Um, but this is 812 00:36:05,245 --> 00:36:06,045 Considered, and it's a Double album. 813 00:36:06,235 --> 00:36:06,925 It's a double album show. 814 00:36:06,925 --> 00:36:08,085 And it became a triple album, and then 815 00:36:08,085 --> 00:36:09,165 it became a Sixtuplet. 816 00:36:09,485 --> 00:36:11,445 That's right, That's right. Deluxe, deluxe version. Um, 817 00:36:11,545 --> 00:36:14,725 But this was like, this is one 818 00:36:14,725 --> 00:36:18,405 of the most revered albums critically of the 1980s. 819 00:36:18,425 --> 00:36:20,845 It was really well received critically when it came out. 820 00:36:20,845 --> 00:36:22,285 Like a Critic Starling album 821 00:36:22,305 --> 00:36:24,245 of the year was nominated for Grammy for Album of the Year. 822 00:36:24,245 --> 00:36:27,605 Yeah. And 'cause considered by a lot of people to be one 823 00:36:27,605 --> 00:36:30,555 of his best albums, if not his best album. 824 00:36:30,705 --> 00:36:32,675 Yeah. And I'd be interested, again, having come 825 00:36:32,795 --> 00:36:35,755 to Prince later in life and really just absorbing it over 826 00:36:35,755 --> 00:36:37,315 the last, you know, 10 years or so. 827 00:36:37,475 --> 00:36:39,475 I would love to hear people's thoughts. Print. 828 00:36:39,555 --> 00:36:41,995 I know we got loads of Prince heads in our comments, 829 00:36:42,255 --> 00:36:43,275 so let us know, like, 830 00:36:43,275 --> 00:36:46,115 what is the Prince Head favorite album? 831 00:36:46,335 --> 00:36:47,315 And, and I mean, I'm sure 832 00:36:47,315 --> 00:36:48,675 everybody has difference, but like, yeah. And there, 833 00:36:48,675 --> 00:36:49,795 And there's no right answer to this, 834 00:36:49,795 --> 00:36:50,795 but it is interesting to hear. 835 00:36:50,815 --> 00:36:52,355 But there is a right answer for Herbie Hancock. 836 00:36:52,355 --> 00:36:53,555 There is a right answer for No, no, 837 00:36:53,555 --> 00:36:54,555 But I'm just kidding. Well, no, 838 00:36:54,555 --> 00:36:55,275 maybe it's good. 839 00:36:55,335 --> 00:36:57,515 No, but isn't it a little bit like, okay, 840 00:36:57,515 --> 00:36:59,995 so we always referencing kind of Blue Miles Davis, right? 841 00:37:00,215 --> 00:37:03,115 So you could be like, is that his Mount Olympus? 842 00:37:03,135 --> 00:37:05,635 Is that his greatest work? 843 00:37:05,735 --> 00:37:08,155 And then, but does that imply that it's downhill afterwards? 844 00:37:08,155 --> 00:37:10,075 He did some great work after that. 845 00:37:10,155 --> 00:37:11,835 And I feel like this is that kind of like, oh yeah. 846 00:37:11,835 --> 00:37:14,915 100%. No, I, like I said, was after this and, and 847 00:37:14,915 --> 00:37:15,915 When he got Yeah. I mean, a 848 00:37:15,915 --> 00:37:16,995 new power generation, like, 849 00:37:17,055 --> 00:37:18,475 he really was like a new 850 00:37:18,475 --> 00:37:19,475 Power generation. Yeah, 851 00:37:19,475 --> 00:37:21,235 man. That was a good band, bro. Of course. 852 00:37:21,415 --> 00:37:22,795 And I mean, I think that like Prince 853 00:37:22,795 --> 00:37:24,275 stayed relevant up until the end. 854 00:37:24,695 --> 00:37:26,955 He just, he, he made so much music 855 00:37:27,535 --> 00:37:29,275 and it was more like, I love this. 856 00:37:29,275 --> 00:37:31,035 Thank you for this lead up this year by year. 857 00:37:31,045 --> 00:37:32,515 Isn't that fun? It's so fun. 858 00:37:32,575 --> 00:37:35,595 And it's also like, you know, he had the constraints 859 00:37:35,695 --> 00:37:38,675 of like the record label, which obviously he, he, he 860 00:37:38,775 --> 00:37:39,875 Got, he just pieced out of, at one point 861 00:37:40,035 --> 00:37:41,035 He pieced out it. Yeah. He got all that. He 862 00:37:41,035 --> 00:37:41,875 just became a different person. 863 00:37:41,985 --> 00:37:43,035 He's like, I'm, he's like, I can't get 864 00:37:43,035 --> 00:37:44,075 outta the right record contract. 865 00:37:44,075 --> 00:37:45,235 Well, I'm gonna become, I'm 866 00:37:45,295 --> 00:37:46,835 Not, you're not, can't even use my name anymore. 867 00:37:46,835 --> 00:37:47,955 Forget about Camille. I'm gonna 868 00:37:47,955 --> 00:37:48,955 Become a symbol. 869 00:37:49,415 --> 00:37:51,115 Put that on a contract b***h. Literal 870 00:37:51,115 --> 00:37:52,115 For those kids who don't know. 871 00:37:52,205 --> 00:37:55,035 There was a time in the nineties where he went 872 00:37:55,035 --> 00:37:56,835 by the artist, formerly known as Prince. 873 00:37:57,215 --> 00:37:58,515 And it was he, and I mean, 874 00:37:58,515 --> 00:37:59,475 technically he was just a 875 00:37:59,475 --> 00:38:00,715 symbol that he had created. Well, I 876 00:38:00,715 --> 00:38:01,755 Think those are two different, that was two different 877 00:38:01,755 --> 00:38:02,795 levels that he went, wasn't it? 878 00:38:02,795 --> 00:38:04,235 It's insane. Yeah. So, 879 00:38:04,335 --> 00:38:07,195 and he was like, you say great story to all this part of the 880 00:38:07,195 --> 00:38:07,355 Lord. 881 00:38:07,355 --> 00:38:08,315 And then the artist, for one, it was just the artist. 882 00:38:08,655 --> 00:38:10,195 The artist. That's amazing. He was great. 883 00:38:10,375 --> 00:38:11,715 And then he started his own record label, 884 00:38:11,735 --> 00:38:12,835 of course, Paisley Parks. 885 00:38:12,855 --> 00:38:14,315 And then, you know, created, 886 00:38:14,315 --> 00:38:15,995 everybody was like, oh yeah, he had a home studio. 887 00:38:16,135 --> 00:38:17,355 No, he had Paisley Parks studio, 888 00:38:17,355 --> 00:38:19,715 which was like a huge, you know, enterprise, 889 00:38:19,825 --> 00:38:22,195 It's high level ego death when you completely, 890 00:38:23,345 --> 00:38:24,515 when you completely just like, 891 00:38:24,695 --> 00:38:26,035 I'm just getting rid of all of it. 892 00:38:26,035 --> 00:38:28,195 Right. Oh, I'm, I'm deleting the person. Yeah. 893 00:38:28,195 --> 00:38:29,755 You've known and I'm, I'm doing my, 894 00:38:29,775 --> 00:38:30,775 And remember he had that one. 895 00:38:30,795 --> 00:38:32,555 I mean, so that, this is what I was saying, like up 896 00:38:32,555 --> 00:38:34,555 until this point, it's like everything, there's sort 897 00:38:34,555 --> 00:38:36,530 of an order to how you can track what he's doing. 898 00:38:36,725 --> 00:38:39,205 I have the feeling, well, I know his output was huge then, 899 00:38:39,205 --> 00:38:41,445 but like everything had to fit onto an album. 900 00:38:41,555 --> 00:38:43,805 Yeah. Right. And then Sign of the Times. 901 00:38:43,915 --> 00:38:45,245 It's like, this is his first like, 902 00:38:45,525 --> 00:38:46,605 multiple situation, isn't it? 903 00:38:46,605 --> 00:38:48,365 And there's even some, there's a live track, 904 00:38:48,365 --> 00:38:49,525 which you were gonna talk about that's kind 905 00:38:49,525 --> 00:38:52,085 of a holdover from a year before with the Revolution. 906 00:38:52,385 --> 00:38:54,285 But like, this is the beginning of things starting 907 00:38:54,345 --> 00:38:57,485 to be able, like for an artist that's so prolific, 908 00:38:57,485 --> 00:39:00,485 like Prince, to be able to kind of come beyond the shackles, 909 00:39:00,485 --> 00:39:02,725 just of like, make your album one a year. 910 00:39:02,725 --> 00:39:04,765 That's a lot. They better be hits and stuff. 911 00:39:05,015 --> 00:39:07,085 Which eventually let, remember when he made the one record 912 00:39:07,085 --> 00:39:08,885 that was like, the name of the record was like, 913 00:39:08,985 --> 00:39:10,565 1-800-GET-FUNK. 914 00:39:10,595 --> 00:39:12,125 Yeah. And he was set, it was like the 915 00:39:12,125 --> 00:39:13,285 first, it was like pre-internet. 916 00:39:13,305 --> 00:39:14,485 And you could call it, you could, 917 00:39:14,595 --> 00:39:15,595 Yeah. You, you call the 918 00:39:15,595 --> 00:39:16,685 numbers how you ordered it. 919 00:39:17,035 --> 00:39:18,365 This is so smart. Super smart. 920 00:39:18,565 --> 00:39:19,965 I mean, he was a master marketer, 921 00:39:20,105 --> 00:39:22,365 but I mean, the amount of music that he made all, you know, 922 00:39:22,365 --> 00:39:23,805 this triple album that was rejected 923 00:39:23,865 --> 00:39:25,405 by Warner Brothers signing The Times, 924 00:39:25,405 --> 00:39:27,045 which ended up coming out, which was a double album, 925 00:39:27,345 --> 00:39:29,445 but all at the same time during 86 926 00:39:29,445 --> 00:39:31,765 and 87, he was working on this mat. 927 00:39:31,785 --> 00:39:34,685 Oh, what was it called? Madhouse Man. Yeah, madhouse. 928 00:39:34,725 --> 00:39:36,165 I was about to say madman. That was with the fo 929 00:39:36,165 --> 00:39:36,885 Jazz band. Yeah, yeah, 930 00:39:36,885 --> 00:39:37,885 Yeah, yeah. With Eric. With, 931 00:39:37,885 --> 00:39:39,445 um, Eric Leeds. Eric Leeds. Yeah. 932 00:39:39,445 --> 00:39:42,045 Eric Leeds. And, um, it was like a fusion band. Yeah, yeah. 933 00:39:42,045 --> 00:39:44,445 Yeah. And a bunch of, actually we have, well, 934 00:39:44,445 --> 00:39:45,885 we can play it late 'cause we haven't played in the actual, 935 00:39:46,085 --> 00:39:47,405 I I have one of the tracks on there. 936 00:39:47,405 --> 00:39:49,125 We can play an example of that, that got 937 00:39:49,285 --> 00:39:50,445 that ended up on one of those. 938 00:39:51,115 --> 00:39:52,115 Yeah. 939 00:39:54,305 --> 00:39:56,365 And this has nothing to do with sinus times really. 940 00:39:57,065 --> 00:39:59,325 No. But it's on Side of the Times Deluxe deluxe version. 941 00:39:59,325 --> 00:40:01,805 I know the deluxe del, the Dope Deluxe one hundreds times. 942 00:40:05,005 --> 00:40:06,445 I mean, using with some stuff. Man, 943 00:40:07,035 --> 00:40:08,365 This is weird. Yeah, it's great. 944 00:40:08,865 --> 00:40:11,405 It even has shades of, like, some of the stuff had shades 945 00:40:11,405 --> 00:40:14,125 of like Chicka electric band stuff. 946 00:40:14,185 --> 00:40:15,765 One stuff got a match style. Yeah. 947 00:40:19,155 --> 00:40:20,325 Whoa. Uh, 948 00:40:20,325 --> 00:40:21,485 okay, let, well, let's get to sign of the time. 949 00:40:21,485 --> 00:40:23,005 So the title track kicks off the album. Album. 950 00:40:23,005 --> 00:40:25,045 Prince is the soul credited artist on this song. 951 00:40:25,515 --> 00:40:27,725 Lelo goes that he created the song using the factory 952 00:40:27,765 --> 00:40:29,125 settings on the Fairlight, 953 00:40:29,775 --> 00:40:31,365 which is hilarious but true. That's 954 00:40:31,365 --> 00:40:32,365 Great. 955 00:40:34,425 --> 00:40:36,325 That's a, that's Lin drum bass drum, isn't it? 956 00:40:37,365 --> 00:40:38,645 I love that bass drum sound, man. 957 00:40:47,345 --> 00:40:48,645 Man. The space line. Come 958 00:40:48,645 --> 00:40:49,645 On. So a lot of this was 959 00:40:49,645 --> 00:40:50,805 recorded at his home. Yeah. 960 00:40:50,945 --> 00:40:55,605 In Lake Minnetonka. No, seriously. In Minnesota. Yeah. 961 00:40:55,665 --> 00:40:57,005 At Mason Park. Yeah. 962 00:40:57,265 --> 00:40:58,565 And, uh, some in la 963 00:40:58,565 --> 00:41:00,045 but like, for all these different projects. 964 00:41:00,105 --> 00:41:02,325 But he did a lot of this just himself. Big 965 00:41:02,325 --> 00:41:04,365 Disease, Uh, engineered 966 00:41:04,365 --> 00:41:06,205 by Susan Rogers and Koch Johnson. 967 00:41:06,715 --> 00:41:08,365 This is pre Paisley Park Studios, right? 968 00:41:08,705 --> 00:41:10,205 Oh, it might have been pre Paisley Park. I don't know. 969 00:41:11,025 --> 00:41:12,325 No, you're right. Lake Minnetonka home 970 00:41:15,585 --> 00:41:16,585 Called. 971 00:41:19,825 --> 00:41:22,765 But this is kind of like his Woo, that bass, 972 00:41:24,385 --> 00:41:25,765 The lyrics on this album too. 973 00:41:25,765 --> 00:41:27,605 Get a little political, get a little spiritual 974 00:41:29,195 --> 00:41:30,195 Time. Might be the 975 00:41:30,195 --> 00:41:33,525 Fair Life. Yeah. 976 00:41:33,525 --> 00:41:35,165 It is just kind of like what's going on, right? 977 00:41:36,435 --> 00:41:38,805 Yeah. He just kind of like Cracked out. It's the 978 00:41:42,165 --> 00:41:42,765 S one inside 979 00:42:03,295 --> 00:42:05,325 Again, the storytelling out of this world. 980 00:42:05,355 --> 00:42:06,525 He's man, on another level, 981 00:42:06,745 --> 00:42:09,005 The production detail was he perfectionist, 982 00:42:10,445 --> 00:42:11,445 Unbelievable artist. 983 00:42:20,515 --> 00:42:21,005 Explode 984 00:42:46,725 --> 00:42:47,015 baby. 985 00:42:47,045 --> 00:42:48,045 Make a, 986 00:42:48,605 --> 00:42:49,935 He's playing with that major 987 00:42:50,275 --> 00:42:52,135 and minor, both with the chords. 988 00:42:52,235 --> 00:42:53,495 And like, when we talk about that, it's like, 989 00:42:55,155 --> 00:42:59,215 my thing went off so minor, but a major. 990 00:43:00,065 --> 00:43:01,455 Right. He's going back and forth 991 00:43:01,555 --> 00:43:02,815 and the baseline sets that up. 992 00:43:03,035 --> 00:43:05,215 But because he's sliding between the minor 993 00:43:05,315 --> 00:43:06,415 and the major, it's okay. 994 00:43:07,425 --> 00:43:09,015 We're not a jazz podcast anymore. It's all good. 995 00:43:11,955 --> 00:43:14,495 But now he's off of it. But when he comes back to it, like 996 00:43:14,515 --> 00:43:17,135 that's like little connection points 997 00:43:19,245 --> 00:43:20,255 That Contributes to this. 998 00:43:20,255 --> 00:43:21,095 Like underlying blue 999 00:43:28,755 --> 00:43:29,815 and Sharp Nine too. 1000 00:43:35,915 --> 00:43:38,895 And man, I think all the guitar coming in 1001 00:43:38,895 --> 00:43:41,015 and going like, there's no constant rhythm guitar, 1002 00:43:41,035 --> 00:43:44,095 but it's coming in and like, giving it that syn of patience. 1003 00:43:44,115 --> 00:43:45,495 So, so the, 1004 00:43:45,875 --> 00:43:48,095 the drums don't become too the drum patterns killer. 1005 00:43:48,335 --> 00:43:49,895 I mean, that keeps it from being too automated. 1006 00:43:49,925 --> 00:43:50,935 It's going back to, it's on the 1007 00:43:50,935 --> 00:43:51,935 Grid, right? It's going back to controversy, 1008 00:43:51,935 --> 00:43:52,775 right? Yeah. 1009 00:43:52,775 --> 00:43:55,095 The one from the 81 when he was, he was younger. 1010 00:43:55,685 --> 00:43:58,135 He's got so much patience Yeah. In these grooves. 1011 00:43:58,205 --> 00:44:00,695 He's not afraid to let you sit in it for a long time. Wow. 1012 00:44:01,035 --> 00:44:02,335 We at One point, James Brown 1013 00:44:02,385 --> 00:44:03,735 parliament, James Brown, like, yeah. 1014 00:44:03,745 --> 00:44:05,695 James Brown and Parliament. Like, let's sit in there. 1015 00:44:05,695 --> 00:44:07,415 It's not effective unless we sit in there. Right. 1016 00:44:07,415 --> 00:44:10,615 And just like vibe in, in the space for a minute. 1017 00:44:10,835 --> 00:44:13,255 And I mean, I, I might get slapped for saying this, 1018 00:44:13,435 --> 00:44:14,695 my apologies, but don't say 1019 00:44:14,695 --> 00:44:15,175 It. No, 1020 00:44:15,175 --> 00:44:16,175 No, no. 1021 00:44:16,175 --> 00:44:17,495 Compared to James Brown and Parliament. 1022 00:44:17,495 --> 00:44:21,415 Like he, he's kind of like lyrically 1023 00:44:21,435 --> 00:44:22,895 and storytelling wise, he's kind 1024 00:44:22,895 --> 00:44:24,415 of got another level to add to it. 1025 00:44:24,765 --> 00:44:26,495 Well, you know, I mean, James, 1026 00:44:26,525 --> 00:44:27,455 He's got his own thing. He's got, 1027 00:44:27,455 --> 00:44:28,455 He's his own. He's, but you know 1028 00:44:28,455 --> 00:44:29,215 what I'm saying? Like, there's, 1029 00:44:29,365 --> 00:44:31,845 there's a, I don't even wanna say sophisticated 1030 00:44:31,925 --> 00:44:33,405 'cause James Brown, master storyteller, 1031 00:44:33,545 --> 00:44:35,245 but like James Brown is in the groove. 1032 00:44:35,245 --> 00:44:37,245 Right? Bro. All three of those artists. Okay. 1033 00:44:37,555 --> 00:44:39,045 High level at what they're doing. 1034 00:44:39,045 --> 00:44:40,765 Just put a lampshade on my head, man. I 1035 00:44:40,765 --> 00:44:42,605 Mean, I just, I don't wanna like, qualify who's 1036 00:44:42,605 --> 00:44:43,965 better? James Brown Parley. 1037 00:44:44,145 --> 00:44:45,145 No, I'm just saying. But he brings, 1038 00:44:45,315 --> 00:44:47,605 Damn, they all are so unique, you know what I mean? They 1039 00:44:47,605 --> 00:44:48,605 Are. But I'm saying one of the unique 1040 00:44:48,605 --> 00:44:50,005 elements of Prince is 1041 00:44:50,005 --> 00:44:53,605 that he brings, like we're talking about the precision 1042 00:44:53,605 --> 00:44:56,525 of the production, like the guitar coming in this under 1043 00:44:56,525 --> 00:44:58,805 underlying, like what he's doing with the drums. 1044 00:44:58,925 --> 00:45:03,205 I mean, but the storytelling is so, it's very, it's very, 1045 00:45:03,305 --> 00:45:06,205 um, Stevie Wonder ask. 1046 00:45:06,275 --> 00:45:07,485 It's very mar gay, you know 1047 00:45:07,485 --> 00:45:08,685 Marvin Gaye? For sure. Yeah. Yeah. 1048 00:45:09,435 --> 00:45:10,525 Well, that's sign of the Times. 1049 00:45:10,585 --> 00:45:12,685 That's the the start we got after that. 1050 00:45:12,685 --> 00:45:13,685 We got playing the Sun Shine. That's 1051 00:45:13,685 --> 00:45:14,725 Such a great way to start The record too. 1052 00:45:14,885 --> 00:45:18,005 I know. A little bit of play in the sunshine. 1053 00:45:18,005 --> 00:45:19,165 Playing in the sunshine. Yeah. 1054 00:45:19,515 --> 00:45:20,525 He's the only, uh, soul 1055 00:45:20,525 --> 00:45:21,725 credited artist on this song as well. 1056 00:45:21,725 --> 00:45:23,765 The exception of the background vocals by his girlfriend. 1057 00:45:24,715 --> 00:45:26,525 Susanna. Mel. Oh, 1058 00:45:26,645 --> 00:45:29,805 That's, uh, one of Wendy or Lisa's sister. 1059 00:45:30,235 --> 00:45:32,005 Twin sister. Lisa's I guess. Or Wendy. 1060 00:45:33,125 --> 00:45:36,325 Remember I talk some Wendy and Lisa Law. 1061 00:45:36,865 --> 00:45:38,765 Little, little dick. Seven on that maybe. 1062 00:45:38,835 --> 00:45:41,125 Yeah. A lot of Dick, Uh, after that is housewife shut 1063 00:45:41,125 --> 00:45:42,365 Up already. Damn. 1064 00:45:42,555 --> 00:45:46,845 This is Camille. So this is his androgynous alter ego 1065 00:45:47,295 --> 00:45:49,605 House quake, Higher pitched voice. 1066 00:45:49,995 --> 00:45:51,485 Then he recorded sped up the tape. 1067 00:45:51,865 --> 00:45:53,365 Sounds like a sassy dude, because it 1068 00:45:54,065 --> 00:45:55,065 Say Yeah. 1069 00:45:55,355 --> 00:45:57,605 Yeah. If you know how, 1070 00:45:58,785 --> 00:45:59,685 But how did he speed it up 1071 00:45:59,685 --> 00:46:01,125 without changing the temple at that time? 1072 00:46:04,755 --> 00:46:08,645 Shut up already. Damn Hu. 1073 00:46:09,275 --> 00:46:12,805 Everybody jump up and down. Hu 1074 00:46:20,475 --> 00:46:24,605 This has so much to me, parliament. 1075 00:46:24,945 --> 00:46:26,605 Oh, with the, the base. 1076 00:46:26,605 --> 00:46:29,285 Camille vocals, the bass, the synth sounds. 1077 00:46:31,265 --> 00:46:32,885 And now we're getting that fan back 1078 00:46:32,885 --> 00:46:33,885 Beat. 1079 00:46:37,745 --> 00:46:40,365 Now You doing 1080 00:46:41,865 --> 00:46:45,925 Ah, so Question. 1081 00:46:46,595 --> 00:46:48,205 Does anybody know about the quake? 1082 00:46:49,305 --> 00:46:53,085 His counterpoint? You can't get off until you 1083 00:46:54,255 --> 00:46:56,245 Shake Hair. 1084 00:46:56,355 --> 00:46:57,355 Come on, 1085 00:47:00,215 --> 00:47:01,215 Let's Jam y'all 1086 00:47:01,625 --> 00:47:02,625 Jam. 1087 00:47:03,295 --> 00:47:04,445 Don't wait for your neighbor. 1088 00:47:06,885 --> 00:47:10,965 Kendrick Lamar. Um, little influence here. Huh? 1089 00:47:11,435 --> 00:47:15,045 There's going In, 1090 00:47:18,145 --> 00:47:19,145 Man. This Is a, I mean, 1091 00:47:19,145 --> 00:47:20,165 it's psychedelic. 1092 00:47:20,165 --> 00:47:21,285 This is a thick, complicated, 1093 00:47:21,285 --> 00:47:23,725 sophisticated ass grooving album, man. 1094 00:47:23,795 --> 00:47:25,165 It's psychedelic. Well, this what's 1095 00:47:25,165 --> 00:47:26,845 so special about this album is then followed up with 1096 00:47:28,305 --> 00:47:29,365 The Ballad of Dorothy Parker. 1097 00:47:29,505 --> 00:47:32,965 Oh. One of, one of the great tracks on this album, 1098 00:47:34,185 --> 00:47:35,185 Man. 1099 00:47:35,305 --> 00:47:36,765 The engineering. Shout out. 1100 00:47:37,725 --> 00:47:41,125 I just like Susan Rogers 1101 00:47:41,305 --> 00:47:42,605 and Coke Johnson. Coke Johnson. 1102 00:47:42,825 --> 00:47:45,805 Boy. I'll say, I'll say nickname or 1103 00:47:45,805 --> 00:47:46,805 Give name. I don't 1104 00:47:46,805 --> 00:47:50,045 know. Love soda or love White Powder. We don't know. 1105 00:47:51,075 --> 00:47:52,245 Well, I'm just kidding. That's 1106 00:47:52,275 --> 00:47:54,565 That Warbly synth sound is amazing. 1107 00:48:00,355 --> 00:48:02,325 What else sounds like this? You know what I mean? 1108 00:48:02,565 --> 00:48:03,485 I remember when I heard that, I was like, what 1109 00:48:03,485 --> 00:48:03,925 the hell's the pro? 1110 00:48:03,965 --> 00:48:04,965 I wanna go on a promenade. 1111 00:48:16,165 --> 00:48:18,045 I believe that's Prince playing drums. Programming. 1112 00:48:18,565 --> 00:48:19,965 I think so. Fighting. 1113 00:48:21,585 --> 00:48:25,205 And I think he's playing bass guitar on this dude. 1114 00:48:25,765 --> 00:48:27,165 Apparently he's the only, he is the 1115 00:48:27,165 --> 00:48:29,125 so artist credited on the song with the exception 1116 00:48:29,125 --> 00:48:30,565 of his girlfriend Susanna, I guess. 1117 00:48:30,565 --> 00:48:31,565 Yeah. 1118 00:48:34,675 --> 00:48:36,805 Yeah. Lemme get a fruit cocktail. Lemme 1119 00:48:36,805 --> 00:48:38,325 Get a f*****g cocktail. Get a fruit 1120 00:48:38,765 --> 00:48:39,765 Cocktail. Read 1121 00:48:39,765 --> 00:48:42,685 what you made into that. It's like a, it's like 1122 00:48:42,885 --> 00:48:44,045 Watching a Tarantino movie. 1123 00:48:44,045 --> 00:48:45,725 There's so many quotes from all 1124 00:48:45,725 --> 00:48:47,245 of his albums, you know, like 1125 00:48:47,545 --> 00:48:48,545 Asking boys. 1126 00:48:48,785 --> 00:48:49,785 Asking boys. 1127 00:48:55,315 --> 00:48:58,085 Yeah. Man, 1128 00:48:58,085 --> 00:48:59,765 This has such that the reason I keep talking about 1129 00:48:59,765 --> 00:49:00,805 the production is so great. 1130 00:49:01,465 --> 00:49:04,085 That's such a corny thing to say in a way. And meaningless. 1131 00:49:04,145 --> 00:49:06,245 But what I mean is like, and 1132 00:49:06,995 --> 00:49:08,485 there's so many, it's just so thick. 1133 00:49:08,485 --> 00:49:09,805 There's so many cool things happening 1134 00:49:10,155 --> 00:49:12,125 that if you don't have the production nailed down, 1135 00:49:12,545 --> 00:49:15,085 it could be just like a sloppy mess 1136 00:49:15,265 --> 00:49:16,485 of just too much s**t happening. 1137 00:49:17,125 --> 00:49:18,645 Remember you were talking about your rule of thirds. You 1138 00:49:18,645 --> 00:49:19,645 Know, It's, 1139 00:49:19,685 --> 00:49:20,685 I don't wanna miss this part. Hold on, 1140 00:49:20,685 --> 00:49:20,965 I'm sorry. 1141 00:49:22,195 --> 00:49:23,605 There's some lyrical stuff happening here. 1142 00:49:23,985 --> 00:49:24,845 I'm sorry, what? What are you saying, 1143 00:49:24,845 --> 00:49:25,685 Peter? What are you saying? 1144 00:49:25,955 --> 00:49:26,805 Okay, first of all, I'm talking 1145 00:49:26,805 --> 00:49:28,005 with the music 'cause I've gotten a license. 1146 00:49:28,105 --> 00:49:30,165 Our, our dear listeners told me to do 1147 00:49:30,165 --> 00:49:31,125 That. They gave you permission. They really did. 1148 00:49:31,465 --> 00:49:34,245 Hey, it's back on. Hey, we never know what's happening. 1149 00:49:34,545 --> 00:49:38,885 No, but the thing is, is like they, this is like Prince 1150 00:49:39,745 --> 00:49:44,405 was notorious for spending hours, hours, hours, hours. 1151 00:49:44,715 --> 00:49:46,725 Just like you're pressing that those buttons for hours, 1152 00:49:46,825 --> 00:49:48,125 for hours, nothing's happening. 1153 00:49:48,505 --> 00:49:51,965 But the idea of like, like you can over-engineer. 1154 00:49:52,165 --> 00:49:53,565 I don't mean the engineering sound. 1155 00:49:53,605 --> 00:49:57,965 I mean, you can just, he's just like artistic 1156 00:49:58,815 --> 00:50:00,885 savvy and material is oozing out of him. 1157 00:50:00,905 --> 00:50:02,645 You can tell he plays every instrument. 1158 00:50:02,755 --> 00:50:04,045 He's a talented dude. You talking about 1159 00:50:04,045 --> 00:50:05,165 living a musical life? 1160 00:50:05,275 --> 00:50:06,885 He's like, yeah. I mean, he's like stuck in 1161 00:50:06,955 --> 00:50:08,125 like, he doesn't wanna leave the studio. 1162 00:50:08,145 --> 00:50:10,245 He invites people over and you're just like playing. 1163 00:50:10,585 --> 00:50:13,125 So, like, he's doing so much. He's got a crazy work ethic. 1164 00:50:13,405 --> 00:50:14,805 I mean, a precision. He's got 1165 00:50:14,805 --> 00:50:16,685 A basketball court, you and your friends 1166 00:50:17,065 --> 00:50:19,325 Versus Me and the revolution, 1167 00:50:19,615 --> 00:50:20,615 Right? 1168 00:50:20,785 --> 00:50:23,405 So it's like, there is the danger of, 1169 00:50:23,465 --> 00:50:24,685 and then he is got his own playground, 1170 00:50:24,685 --> 00:50:26,925 the studio available him at, at all times. 1171 00:50:27,055 --> 00:50:28,565 There we go. Hey, hey. 1172 00:50:29,745 --> 00:50:34,125 Um, but it's, it's such a, there's such an opportunity 1173 00:50:34,225 --> 00:50:35,805 for it to be just too much in there. 1174 00:50:35,985 --> 00:50:37,805 And so he fits a lot in there in terms 1175 00:50:37,805 --> 00:50:40,325 of like the guitar coming in the baseline, like the lin, 1176 00:50:40,425 --> 00:50:42,245 the Dr, I mean, just, there's so much going on, 1177 00:50:42,625 --> 00:50:43,965 but yet it's all works. 1178 00:50:43,995 --> 00:50:46,685 Like he, he put, it's like you say like a Tarantine movie 1179 00:50:46,685 --> 00:50:48,885 or it's like, oh look over here, look here. 1180 00:50:49,065 --> 00:50:50,565 But you're not, you don't have whiplash. 1181 00:50:50,585 --> 00:50:52,405 The whole thing just like, sort of makes sense. Agreed. 1182 00:50:52,405 --> 00:50:53,485 That's production. Agreed. 1183 00:50:53,485 --> 00:50:55,565 Yeah. I just want to get this great lyric. Uh, 1184 00:51:11,955 --> 00:51:16,925 Joan, She puts Joni Mitchell's help me 1185 00:51:17,195 --> 00:51:19,285 couches it in there from Court Spark, 1186 00:51:19,375 --> 00:51:21,365 which should be on a list. Yeah. 1187 00:51:21,745 --> 00:51:23,725 Put on the list. I tried those. Next season. Next. Talk 1188 00:51:23,725 --> 00:51:24,805 To your boy. Talk to your boy. 1189 00:51:25,335 --> 00:51:27,205 Let's go. All right. 1190 00:51:27,205 --> 00:51:29,165 That's the ballot of Dorothy Parker. Next up is, 1191 00:51:29,225 --> 00:51:30,225 That's a deep One. There 1192 00:51:30,225 --> 00:51:33,845 is it, which is good. Just another funky banger. 1193 00:51:33,845 --> 00:51:35,805 But I wanna get to, we've got a double album here. 1194 00:51:35,805 --> 00:51:36,805 So how many hits were there on 1195 00:51:36,805 --> 00:51:37,525 this? I'm trying to remember. 1196 00:51:37,705 --> 00:51:39,525 Uh, so that's a great question. Not 1197 00:51:39,675 --> 00:51:40,675 That was not one of them. 1198 00:51:40,805 --> 00:51:43,445 Obviously not that many. Honestly. Like there was, 1199 00:51:44,185 --> 00:51:45,205 You got the looks. Gotta be one 1200 00:51:45,205 --> 00:51:46,205 Of 'em. You got the look was a, that 1201 00:51:46,205 --> 00:51:46,565 was 1202 00:51:46,565 --> 00:51:47,725 big. Was a big hit for sure. 1203 00:51:47,915 --> 00:51:49,845 Sign of the Times. Sign of the Times was a big hit. 1204 00:51:49,845 --> 00:51:51,005 And then I think it was, um, 1205 00:51:52,145 --> 00:51:53,145 Oh, if I was your girlfriend, That 1206 00:51:53,145 --> 00:51:54,085 wasn't big. If I your girlfriend 1207 00:51:54,085 --> 00:51:55,725 we're Get to Starfish and Coffee. 1208 00:51:56,255 --> 00:51:58,085 Super unique song. Super fun. 1209 00:52:06,225 --> 00:52:08,405 It was 7 45 All In Line 1210 00:52:08,915 --> 00:52:12,045 teacher Ms. Kathleen Best was Kevin. 1211 00:52:12,355 --> 00:52:14,845 Then Third in Line was me. 1212 00:52:15,945 --> 00:52:18,605 All of us were ordinary to, 1213 00:52:27,225 --> 00:52:29,165 You know, this is, this album is for Outsiders. 1214 00:52:29,195 --> 00:52:30,965 Like this is a anthem album 1215 00:52:31,065 --> 00:52:32,925 for outsiders, for people who feel freak. 1216 00:52:32,925 --> 00:52:34,045 Weird, geek and freaky. Yeah. 1217 00:52:34,045 --> 00:52:35,925 Except for Freaks and Geeks for sure. Definitely. 1218 00:52:35,925 --> 00:52:37,565 For people feeling freaky. Well, 1219 00:52:37,945 --> 00:52:39,045 the King of Freaky here. 1220 00:52:39,125 --> 00:52:40,925 I mean the master of it. But 1221 00:52:41,025 --> 00:52:43,285 It was like, be be do your thing. Be you, 1222 00:52:43,545 --> 00:52:44,285 You be you. You 1223 00:52:44,285 --> 00:52:46,485 Know, before there was a lot of explaining about that, 1224 00:52:46,625 --> 00:52:48,205 you know, it was just like, yeah, 1225 00:52:48,545 --> 00:52:49,485 Prince Was, man, 1226 00:52:49,845 --> 00:52:50,805 I mean, I remember the first time song. It's a 1227 00:52:50,925 --> 00:52:52,125 Revolution. He's a re right. 1228 00:52:52,525 --> 00:52:55,765 I was like, damn. Who, what is that? 1229 00:52:55,915 --> 00:52:58,365 Like, what is like he's letting his freak flag 1230 00:52:58,825 --> 00:52:59,825 Fly. I mean, way ahead, ahead of 1231 00:52:59,825 --> 00:53:02,005 this time in a lot of ways. 1232 00:53:02,035 --> 00:53:05,605 Musically in other ways. Yeah. Uh, so no. Yeah. 1233 00:53:06,045 --> 00:53:07,245 I know we have a lot of it fans. 1234 00:53:07,245 --> 00:53:08,725 We got a lot of Starfish and Coffee fans. 1235 00:53:08,785 --> 00:53:10,645 But I want, I do want Get to Slow Love. 1236 00:53:10,725 --> 00:53:12,805 I love this song so much. 1237 00:53:13,635 --> 00:53:18,005 This has some DeAngelo. Oh, for sure. 1238 00:53:21,435 --> 00:53:23,125 Just going up the third there. You know what I mean? 1239 00:53:23,235 --> 00:53:25,285 Yeah. We're 1240 00:53:25,285 --> 00:53:27,085 Going to third, we're going to the third. 1241 00:53:33,775 --> 00:53:34,725 Isn't that good? Yeah. 1242 00:53:39,605 --> 00:53:40,645 I told you this was a great album. 1243 00:53:40,785 --> 00:53:45,005 So this has Eric Leeds on the saxophone. 1244 00:53:45,435 --> 00:53:47,365 John, I, Eric leads, I got a chance to meet him 1245 00:53:47,365 --> 00:53:49,085 and have a coffee with them once, 1246 00:53:49,085 --> 00:53:50,645 which has followed Christian McBride, 1247 00:53:52,015 --> 00:53:53,645 Wendy and Lisa on the bbs. 1248 00:53:53,645 --> 00:53:56,125 Wendy on Wendy Mel. Boy on that 1249 00:53:56,125 --> 00:53:57,125 Show. This is weird. 'cause they had like a 1250 00:53:57,125 --> 00:53:57,525 falling out. 1251 00:53:57,525 --> 00:53:58,565 They had so many falling outs. 1252 00:53:58,565 --> 00:54:00,005 Wendy and Lisa with Prince, but then 1253 00:54:00,515 --> 00:54:01,515 They're their back. 1254 00:54:02,915 --> 00:54:05,205 Atlanta Bliss on the trumpet Yes. 1255 00:54:05,955 --> 00:54:08,165 Name. Because he was living in Atlanta at the time. 1256 00:54:13,665 --> 00:54:14,845 Now the orchestration on this 1257 00:54:14,845 --> 00:54:16,085 Oh, jazzy is part of the album so 1258 00:54:16,085 --> 00:54:17,085 Far. I I just 1259 00:54:17,085 --> 00:54:19,565 discovered this in doing research for this episode. 1260 00:54:19,565 --> 00:54:21,125 Yeah. The orchestration on this song 1261 00:54:21,425 --> 00:54:25,725 and a lot, a lot of what Prince did, uh, with any kind 1262 00:54:25,725 --> 00:54:27,325 of strings or any kind of horns Yeah. 1263 00:54:27,505 --> 00:54:29,685 Was done by the great Claire Fisher. 1264 00:54:30,035 --> 00:54:31,405 Such a cr, such a fisher 1265 00:54:31,555 --> 00:54:34,045 Fact who wrote like some Latin jazz standards. 1266 00:54:34,045 --> 00:54:36,205 Like mourning and like this song Sativa. 1267 00:54:36,205 --> 00:54:37,205 This is by Benny Green, 1268 00:54:38,425 --> 00:54:39,425 By Claire Fisher. Well, 1269 00:54:39,425 --> 00:54:40,565 the song is by Claire Fisher. 1270 00:54:40,635 --> 00:54:43,885 This recording's by Benny Green Christian. McBride McBride. 1271 00:54:43,885 --> 00:54:45,365 Carl Allen. Shout Carl Allen. 1272 00:54:52,385 --> 00:54:56,005 Woo. This is from the place to be such 1273 00:54:56,045 --> 00:54:58,085 A great, um, composer. 1274 00:55:02,635 --> 00:55:04,045 What a song. Claire Fisher. 1275 00:55:04,245 --> 00:55:06,205 I was like, wait, Claire Fisher. Yeah. Worked. 1276 00:55:06,285 --> 00:55:08,205 I mean, he worked a ton with Prince. Yeah. 1277 00:55:08,985 --> 00:55:10,285 And it's really eye opening. 1278 00:55:10,315 --> 00:55:11,565 It's really cool. Actually. I think Claire 1279 00:55:11,565 --> 00:55:12,525 Fisher did some arranging, 1280 00:55:12,725 --> 00:55:14,165 I wanna say for Michael Jackson. He did 1281 00:55:14,165 --> 00:55:15,045 Some arranging for Michael Jackson 1282 00:55:15,145 --> 00:55:15,845 as well. Yeah, yeah. I was, 1283 00:55:16,275 --> 00:55:16,725 Yeah. Great. 1284 00:55:16,725 --> 00:55:18,205 Arrange the more you learn. Yeah. 1285 00:55:18,385 --> 00:55:22,285 Um, and then we have two more, two more tracks on the what, 1286 00:55:22,365 --> 00:55:26,845 I guess the end of side two disc one. 1287 00:55:27,685 --> 00:55:28,805 I don't even know how to describe it. Which 1288 00:55:28,805 --> 00:55:29,605 Version are we looking at? Oh, 1289 00:55:29,605 --> 00:55:30,605 The two 20. The 2020. 1290 00:55:30,605 --> 00:55:34,725 This is Hot thing. This is incredible. Yeah. 1291 00:55:34,825 --> 00:55:38,445 The end of the, of the, the b side of the first lp. 1292 00:55:41,665 --> 00:55:41,885 Ah, 1293 00:55:49,525 --> 00:55:53,525 I mean, we're heavy into the FM synthesis era here. 1294 00:56:03,105 --> 00:56:05,245 Big fun. I wanna know, 1295 00:56:05,265 --> 00:56:06,885 how did this only hit number six on 1296 00:56:06,885 --> 00:56:08,005 the, I wanna know, one through five. 1297 00:56:08,155 --> 00:56:10,365 Yeah. On the US Billboard 200 at this time, 1298 00:56:11,605 --> 00:56:13,445 I wanna know every one through five that, 1299 00:56:13,445 --> 00:56:15,445 that beat this album out. That would be interesting. 1300 00:56:15,625 --> 00:56:17,965 And not, not to No shade, I'm just saying 1301 00:56:18,025 --> 00:56:19,025 No shade. So next after 1302 00:56:19,025 --> 00:56:21,005 that, the last song on the disc, 1303 00:56:21,105 --> 00:56:22,805 one me version is Forever in My Life. 1304 00:56:23,315 --> 00:56:24,405 Also. Beautiful. 1305 00:56:24,515 --> 00:56:25,125 Beautiful. 1306 00:56:33,155 --> 00:56:35,285 Such a unique sounding album. 1307 00:56:35,515 --> 00:56:40,005 Yeah. The diversity on this album 1308 00:56:40,425 --> 00:56:41,645 is kind of crazy saying 1309 00:56:42,215 --> 00:56:43,215 Man's life. 1310 00:56:43,785 --> 00:56:47,085 He tired. Fool around. 1311 00:56:51,505 --> 00:56:55,285 Circus down. 1312 00:57:05,875 --> 00:57:07,085 Well, you're 29 now, Brandon. 1313 00:57:09,905 --> 00:57:13,765 And then kicking off, uh, side three 1314 00:57:14,595 --> 00:57:15,605 disc two. 1315 00:57:15,875 --> 00:57:17,605 Yeah. Uh, is this masterpiece? 1316 00:57:18,985 --> 00:57:19,205 Mm. 1317 00:57:41,705 --> 00:57:44,005 Boy, Shout out Sheila 1318 00:57:44,085 --> 00:57:44,605 E. Yes. 1319 00:57:44,745 --> 00:57:46,005 On the percussion and Sheena 1320 00:57:46,005 --> 00:57:47,005 Easton. We're gonna be here 1321 00:57:47,005 --> 00:57:48,925 some more for Sheila. She walked in. 1322 00:57:50,005 --> 00:57:51,005 I woke Up. 1323 00:57:51,995 --> 00:57:52,995 I've Never seen. 1324 00:57:55,025 --> 00:57:56,885 Ooh, Baby. Ah, 1325 00:57:59,625 --> 00:58:00,625 You got that good. 1326 00:58:02,545 --> 00:58:06,365 Ah, call black calling. 1327 00:58:13,915 --> 00:58:14,645 Seen she and Easton 1328 00:58:23,005 --> 00:58:24,565 Slamming Your body's heck of slamming. 1329 00:58:26,415 --> 00:58:27,965 Let's get, This is a good video. 1330 00:58:29,385 --> 00:58:34,045 You got Kind of an awkward end. Hello? 1331 00:58:35,345 --> 00:58:37,845 Do you have it? Or you can leave the killer video. 1332 00:58:38,925 --> 00:58:40,165 I was, I was all about this video. 1333 00:58:46,075 --> 00:58:50,045 Princeton. Like, like he had Sheena 1334 00:58:50,145 --> 00:58:52,245 Easton when he had Van. 1335 00:58:52,315 --> 00:58:54,445 Like when he featured these different women. 1336 00:58:54,715 --> 00:58:57,445 Like they all ended up like looking and, and thinking 1337 00:58:57,445 --> 00:58:58,445 and acting like him. 1338 00:58:58,675 --> 00:58:59,685 Like everybody, Wendy 1339 00:58:59,745 --> 00:59:02,565 and Lisa, Eric Lee, the keyboard players. 1340 00:59:02,945 --> 00:59:04,725 All the keyboard players. Dr. Fink. 1341 00:59:05,035 --> 00:59:08,205 Yeah. Isn't that amazing? But it did, she he was like, 1342 00:59:08,345 --> 00:59:11,645 she kind of was like, anyway, I digress. 1343 00:59:11,765 --> 00:59:12,765 I wanna go to an interview here from 1344 00:59:12,845 --> 00:59:13,845 19. These were a crazy time, my friend. 1345 00:59:13,845 --> 00:59:14,365 Oh yeah. 1346 00:59:14,365 --> 00:59:16,045 They were. This is from 1989. 1347 00:59:16,235 --> 00:59:17,965 What do you know about the Arsenio Hall Show? 1348 00:59:18,235 --> 00:59:19,685 Well, I was, I What do you 1349 00:59:19,685 --> 00:59:20,765 know about the dog Pound Shout out? 1350 00:59:20,785 --> 00:59:23,805 Uh, what do you know about Mike Wolf? Mike Wolf. Yeah. 1351 00:59:23,825 --> 00:59:25,525 You know about Mike Wolf? What Ly Carrington 1352 00:59:26,625 --> 00:59:27,685 Dog Pound Dog Pound. 1353 00:59:27,685 --> 00:59:29,245 Yeah. Uh, this is Miles Davis, 1354 00:59:29,885 --> 00:59:32,485 1989 on the Arsenio Hall Show. Talking about Prince. Yeah. 1355 00:59:33,075 --> 00:59:36,085 Yeah. So you like Prince too? Oh yeah. I love Prince. 1356 00:59:37,505 --> 00:59:41,085 Prince is a genius is they can do him. 1357 00:59:47,105 --> 00:59:49,645 And, and that word is used a lot, you know? Yeah. 1358 00:59:50,745 --> 00:59:53,285 But he, I look at Francis the same way I looked 1359 00:59:53,285 --> 00:59:54,365 at Charlie Chaplin. 1360 00:59:54,465 --> 00:59:57,885 Mm-hmm. It's just nothing. He couldn't be, you know, 1361 00:59:58,105 --> 00:59:59,165 He meant Charlie Parker. Right. 1362 00:59:59,355 --> 01:00:03,245 He's, you know, like, he's a product of James Brown 1363 01:00:03,425 --> 01:00:04,565 and Marvin Gaye. 1364 01:00:04,785 --> 01:00:07,245 Mm. A slide. Mm-hmm. 1365 01:00:07,385 --> 01:00:10,565 Oh, yep. Sure. There's nothing he can't do. 1366 01:00:11,345 --> 01:00:15,885 And, and he used to tell me, I said, 1367 01:00:15,885 --> 01:00:18,005 Preston must, he must feel good when you wake 1368 01:00:18,005 --> 01:00:19,045 up as another person. 1369 01:00:21,425 --> 01:00:22,445 So I wanted to play that 1370 01:00:22,445 --> 01:00:23,445 Clip. He like that, you know, 1371 01:00:23,445 --> 01:00:23,925 he can work. 1372 01:00:24,225 --> 01:00:26,205 He just, he's another person, 1373 01:00:26,635 --> 01:00:27,365 Camille. Yeah. 1374 01:00:27,785 --> 01:00:29,005 You know what I mean? Don't you? 1375 01:00:30,505 --> 01:00:31,685 So with that, that was actually, 1376 01:00:31,685 --> 01:00:32,805 that's a great Miles Davis moment. 1377 01:00:32,835 --> 01:00:35,125 He's sitting next to Sigourney Weaver on that couch. 1378 01:00:35,625 --> 01:00:37,685 Can we talk about Arsenio's interviewing skills? 1379 01:00:37,755 --> 01:00:39,445 That was actually one of his better ones, man. 1380 01:00:39,585 --> 01:00:42,325 And talk about things that maybe didn't age great, man. 1381 01:00:42,325 --> 01:00:44,285 He had some great guests though. Arsen Great. 1382 01:00:44,305 --> 01:00:45,885 Aio was a, that was a, he was a great presenter. 1383 01:00:45,905 --> 01:00:48,085 It was a vibe. I, we would stay up and watch Arsenio. 1384 01:00:48,085 --> 01:00:50,445 It was like a, he was a very agreeable interviewer. 1385 01:00:51,365 --> 01:00:53,125 I, I mean, a little sidetrack here. Yeah. 1386 01:00:53,125 --> 01:00:55,565 But you know, I, we would stay up when I was a, a little kid 1387 01:00:55,565 --> 01:00:57,045 and watch Johnny Carson with my parents. 1388 01:00:57,045 --> 01:00:58,285 Right. Yeah. And Johnny Carson 1389 01:00:58,285 --> 01:00:59,445 was an old man when I was a kid. 1390 01:00:59,445 --> 01:01:01,885 Yeah. And that proves it. I just read a thing. 1391 01:01:01,885 --> 01:01:04,445 It said, if you can remember Johnny Carson 1392 01:01:04,445 --> 01:01:05,765 being on the television. 1393 01:01:05,765 --> 01:01:07,805 Yeah. Then you're Gen X or older. 1394 01:01:08,315 --> 01:01:10,005 Well, sue me, I'm Gen X older. 1395 01:01:10,405 --> 01:01:12,645 I can remember Johnny Carson being on the television. 1396 01:01:12,665 --> 01:01:14,125 And I, but I remember he was an old man. 1397 01:01:14,205 --> 01:01:15,365 I thought he was, I thought it was funny. 1398 01:01:15,465 --> 01:01:18,125 And I, I, I could see why my parents liked him. 1399 01:01:18,125 --> 01:01:19,325 My dad loved Johnny Carson. Yeah. 1400 01:01:19,505 --> 01:01:20,605 But when Arsenio, 1401 01:01:20,605 --> 01:01:22,885 when the Arsenio Hall show started, it was a revolution. 1402 01:01:23,105 --> 01:01:25,925 And he was having artists we were listening to. Yeah. 1403 01:01:25,945 --> 01:01:27,645 And actors. We were into That's true. 1404 01:01:27,905 --> 01:01:31,285 And athletes and stuff. It was just like it was for us. 1405 01:01:31,285 --> 01:01:33,245 Like it was for our generation. You know what I mean? 1406 01:01:33,245 --> 01:01:34,645 It was just like, for young, a late 1407 01:01:34,645 --> 01:01:35,805 night show for young people. 1408 01:01:35,965 --> 01:01:37,485 I was even a little too young for like, David, 1409 01:01:37,485 --> 01:01:39,525 the Letterman was weird and everybody loved him, but, 1410 01:01:39,865 --> 01:01:41,645 and I love all those guys too. 1411 01:01:41,645 --> 01:01:44,125 But like, man, there was something about Arsenio Hall 1412 01:01:44,125 --> 01:01:46,925 that felt like, oh, like this is for young people. 1413 01:01:47,035 --> 01:01:48,485 Yeah, it was for youth. It was. 1414 01:01:48,705 --> 01:01:50,285 And it came and came and went fast. 1415 01:01:50,405 --> 01:01:51,565 I mean, it was like, it kind of did. I don't know. 1416 01:01:51,565 --> 01:01:52,645 It was like a meteor, you know? 1417 01:01:52,785 --> 01:01:54,725 It just, but he was just always, he was great. 1418 01:01:54,725 --> 01:01:57,725 He was hilarious. Yeah. He was, he was just always the, 1419 01:01:57,725 --> 01:02:01,525 like, just so much a, a ad adulation, adoration that he had 1420 01:02:01,525 --> 01:02:03,125 for the every guest, you know? 1421 01:02:03,125 --> 01:02:05,445 Yeah. Things that make you go. Yeah. What was it? 1422 01:02:05,445 --> 01:02:08,605 Things that make you go, Hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. 1423 01:02:09,105 --> 01:02:11,165 Uh, shout on our, come on the show. Arsenio. 1424 01:02:11,535 --> 01:02:14,445 Leave that party. He had some good jazz folks on there. 1425 01:02:14,525 --> 01:02:16,565 I mean, miles Davis was Miles Davis sitting, 1426 01:02:16,565 --> 01:02:17,805 sitting on the couch with s Scorey Weaver. 1427 01:02:17,805 --> 01:02:19,525 Yeah. There you go. Um, okay. 1428 01:02:19,865 --> 01:02:24,445 So after that is a very good and very interesting song. 1429 01:02:24,445 --> 01:02:28,245 Yeah. Like Camille, uh, Prince's androgynous, alter Ego. 1430 01:02:32,075 --> 01:02:33,845 This is if I was your girlfriend. Oh yeah. This is great. 1431 01:02:34,335 --> 01:02:36,165 We're not gonna play all of it. Yeah. Look at a bar 1432 01:02:36,165 --> 01:02:37,245 You saw here, ladies. 1433 01:02:55,655 --> 01:02:57,365 Maybe we'll play all of it. I don't know. 1434 01:03:06,785 --> 01:03:09,045 Ooh, that baseline. But even 1435 01:03:09,045 --> 01:03:10,245 this is a little ahead of its time. 1436 01:03:10,245 --> 01:03:14,245 This to me feels like 91. Yeah. And I know it's 87. Yeah. 1437 01:03:14,245 --> 01:03:16,325 That's a big difference. Something about it feels 1438 01:03:16,325 --> 01:03:18,405 like, remember Wesley Snipes. 1439 01:03:18,405 --> 01:03:19,485 Like, it feels like, you know what I mean? 1440 01:03:19,485 --> 01:03:23,405 It feels like that era the way things looked and felt. Yeah. 1441 01:03:23,515 --> 01:03:26,325 Kind of incredible. He's always a one step ahead. Prince 1442 01:03:26,985 --> 01:03:27,985 Was your man. 1443 01:03:28,595 --> 01:03:33,085 Yeah. I was your best friend. 1444 01:03:34,415 --> 01:03:37,885 Would you let me take care of you 1445 01:03:39,305 --> 01:03:42,565 and do all the things that only best friend can, 1446 01:03:46,955 --> 01:03:47,925 only best friends. 1447 01:03:56,035 --> 01:03:59,285 It's so crazy. There's a lot going on in this song. Yeah. 1448 01:04:00,025 --> 01:04:03,325 And there's a lot of play with all kinds of things. Yeah. 1449 01:04:03,525 --> 01:04:04,765 I mean, just ama 1450 01:04:04,765 --> 01:04:07,205 and musically, just always in the pocket after that. 1451 01:04:07,205 --> 01:04:12,085 It's strange relationship. Now we're back in the eighties. 1452 01:04:12,615 --> 01:04:13,615 Fully. 1453 01:04:29,085 --> 01:04:30,245 I guess you know me Well, 1454 01:04:30,885 --> 01:04:35,885 I back winter 1455 01:04:40,665 --> 01:04:43,085 You're always, yeah. 1456 01:04:43,785 --> 01:04:47,245 What's the strange relationship? We, hold on. 1457 01:04:55,325 --> 01:04:56,685 I hate See you. Sad. 1458 01:05:01,825 --> 01:05:02,765 Killer, killer. 1459 01:05:03,675 --> 01:05:04,925 Strange relationship after that. 1460 01:05:05,005 --> 01:05:06,885 I could never pick the place of your man. 1461 01:05:11,475 --> 01:05:12,725 It's One of these kind of, yeah. 1462 01:05:21,285 --> 01:05:23,045 I don't remember this song at all on this record. 1463 01:05:23,145 --> 01:05:24,285 Me neither. Yeah. The Cross. 1464 01:05:29,065 --> 01:05:29,485 Oh yeah. 1465 01:05:56,255 --> 01:05:58,405 Black Day Storm. 1466 01:06:01,625 --> 01:06:05,045 No, no. Inside. 1467 01:06:06,615 --> 01:06:07,365 Don't cry. 1468 01:06:08,305 --> 01:06:12,205 He don't die. 1469 01:06:26,705 --> 01:06:28,925 Get to the, 1470 01:06:32,705 --> 01:06:34,445 to the right 1471 01:06:41,945 --> 01:06:42,165 We 1472 01:06:57,585 --> 01:07:01,205 of Salvation, of 1473 01:07:01,885 --> 01:07:03,965 Pregnant Mother ings. 1474 01:07:05,785 --> 01:07:06,405 She lives 1475 01:07:07,105 --> 01:07:11,525 in children. 1476 01:07:12,155 --> 01:07:15,645 Need all that she brings. 1477 01:07:25,025 --> 01:07:26,025 We all 1478 01:07:38,475 --> 01:07:39,475 Such a unique track. 1479 01:07:39,985 --> 01:07:40,985 Forgot about that one 1480 01:07:46,395 --> 01:07:48,645 Wonderful thing to do at the, at the album. 1481 01:07:49,025 --> 01:07:51,165 Uh, after that. Now. So the album ends. 1482 01:07:51,165 --> 01:07:53,205 The last two songs are amazing. 1483 01:07:53,565 --> 01:07:54,765 I, I think this is, wait, 1484 01:07:54,765 --> 01:07:56,485 we're getting to my favorite part. My friend. Yeah. Yeah. 1485 01:07:56,485 --> 01:07:57,805 This is Peter's favorite part. Should 1486 01:07:57,805 --> 01:07:59,685 We jump up to our, should we start some categories? 1487 01:07:59,845 --> 01:08:01,285 'cause these are gonna feature prominently. Yeah. 1488 01:08:01,285 --> 01:08:02,325 Let's, let's start some categories. 1489 01:08:02,425 --> 01:08:03,605 So what is your desert island track? 1490 01:08:03,785 --> 01:08:05,285 My desert island track is actually not, 1491 01:08:05,285 --> 01:08:08,965 is the very last track Adore, man. 1492 01:08:12,985 --> 01:08:14,605 I'm on the desert island. I'm not alone. 1493 01:08:16,865 --> 01:08:18,165 The artist's amazing is 1494 01:08:18,165 --> 01:08:19,165 With Me. 1495 01:08:19,545 --> 01:08:22,805 To me, this is classic, like throughout his, 1496 01:08:23,505 --> 01:08:26,445 Oh, It's just everything that Prince kills. 1497 01:08:27,315 --> 01:08:28,405 It's not as weirdest. 1498 01:08:28,635 --> 01:08:31,805 This is quiet storm ish, r 1499 01:08:31,805 --> 01:08:36,565 and b's jams, ams, horns killing 1500 01:08:50,025 --> 01:08:51,025 Voodoo vibes. 1501 01:08:51,195 --> 01:08:52,885 Very voodoo. Very voodoo 1502 01:08:57,865 --> 01:08:58,865 Man. 1503 01:09:06,635 --> 01:09:10,565 Mean, the first moment 1504 01:09:10,845 --> 01:09:14,685 I knew you were the 1505 01:09:15,505 --> 01:09:16,965 Man, you could listen to this every day. 1506 01:09:16,995 --> 01:09:18,165 It'd be like fine stuff 1507 01:09:18,395 --> 01:09:19,885 that you're comfort, it's comfortable. 1508 01:09:20,315 --> 01:09:23,485 It's like a nice little fleece plugging you, you know, 1509 01:09:26,355 --> 01:09:28,365 Like a, like a Patagonia cortisone. It's 1510 01:09:28,365 --> 01:09:29,565 A little bit, yeah. 1511 01:09:29,665 --> 01:09:30,965 Not quite as broadish as that, 1512 01:09:30,965 --> 01:09:33,965 but then it's got all the Prince like this. 1513 01:09:33,965 --> 01:09:35,245 That's some car up there. 1514 01:09:35,245 --> 01:09:38,125 Just sounds, and it's almost like you can't tell with like, 1515 01:09:38,125 --> 01:09:39,485 this could almost be princes from, 1516 01:09:39,515 --> 01:09:41,365 from almost the beginning to the end. 1517 01:09:41,365 --> 01:09:43,365 Like, for sure. Any time. It is. So I love it. 1518 01:09:43,405 --> 01:09:46,485 I love going out on, on. It's such a great closer track. 1519 01:09:46,485 --> 01:09:48,205 That's, that's my desert honor. What 1520 01:09:48,205 --> 01:09:49,205 You got? Um, I've 1521 01:09:49,205 --> 01:09:50,805 got the Ballad of Dorothy Parker. That's 1522 01:09:50,805 --> 01:09:51,805 Great. That was my, that 1523 01:09:51,805 --> 01:09:52,685 probably would've been my next 1524 01:09:52,685 --> 01:09:53,685 What's your Apex moment? 1525 01:09:53,755 --> 01:09:54,885 Okay. So the track 1526 01:09:54,885 --> 01:09:56,725 before this, it's gonna be a beautiful night. 1527 01:09:56,925 --> 01:10:00,525 I think this is, this could be a quibble bit as well. 1528 01:10:00,845 --> 01:10:03,965 Although I don't think, like there's, this is the only track 1529 01:10:03,965 --> 01:10:07,085 with the revolution on from a live concert in 86 1530 01:10:07,705 --> 01:10:10,205 in Paris at the, um, Zenith, 1531 01:10:10,205 --> 01:10:12,045 which is a really cool venue I've been at. 1532 01:10:12,585 --> 01:10:14,565 And the whole like, you know, 1533 01:10:14,565 --> 01:10:16,165 so Sheila e It's the whole gang. 1534 01:10:16,425 --> 01:10:18,045 The whole band. This is the only thing with like, 1535 01:10:18,045 --> 01:10:20,445 really demonstrably like drums, 1536 01:10:21,045 --> 01:10:22,045 acoustic drums the whole time. 1537 01:10:22,045 --> 01:10:23,885 There's probably some programs stuff thrown in there. 1538 01:10:26,435 --> 01:10:30,445 This is why I love it. Ah. 1539 01:10:34,785 --> 01:10:35,785 Oh. Hello 1540 01:10:43,705 --> 01:10:44,705 Ben. Have you seen those live 1541 01:10:44,705 --> 01:10:44,885 1542 01:10:44,885 --> 01:10:46,165 videos of Prince and the Revolution? 1543 01:10:46,165 --> 01:10:47,645 Yeah. The stage show. Yes. 1544 01:10:47,825 --> 01:10:49,085 You know, they rehearsed, they would 1545 01:10:49,085 --> 01:10:50,085 before they go out on tour, they 1546 01:10:50,085 --> 01:10:51,085 would rehearse for like a month. 1547 01:10:51,155 --> 01:10:52,205 Yeah. In a warehouse. 1548 01:10:52,305 --> 01:10:53,725 All rehearsal pancakes. That's it. 1549 01:10:53,725 --> 01:10:55,525 Rehearsal's, pancakes, rehearsal's, pancakes. 1550 01:10:56,225 --> 01:10:57,765 If do yourself a favor. Yeah. 1551 01:10:57,765 --> 01:10:59,925 And go watch some prince and, and the revolution live. Yeah. 1552 01:10:59,925 --> 01:11:03,765 It's unbelievable. We used to be a real society. Yeah. 1553 01:11:03,795 --> 01:11:06,005 With real artists. Yeah, I know. It's unbelievable. 1554 01:11:07,375 --> 01:11:09,885 Shout out Dr. Fink on the keys and co composer 1555 01:11:09,885 --> 01:11:11,125 Of this too. Dr. Funkenstein. 1556 01:11:11,265 --> 01:11:13,845 Dr. Fink. He was ahead of his time 1557 01:11:13,845 --> 01:11:15,485 with the mask and the scrubs. 1558 01:11:15,785 --> 01:11:16,805 Man, the horns on here. 1559 01:11:19,865 --> 01:11:21,205 So this is your apex 1560 01:11:21,205 --> 01:11:22,205 Moment. My apex moment. So 1561 01:11:22,205 --> 01:11:23,605 if you want to, I hate to say this 1562 01:11:23,785 --> 01:11:25,325 to jump ahead, but where is it? 1563 01:11:25,325 --> 01:11:28,245 Like around four 50 or so. But this is the thing. 1564 01:11:28,435 --> 01:11:30,485 This all the way from that point to the end. 1565 01:11:33,225 --> 01:11:34,485 Can We pop it? Can we jam it? 1566 01:11:38,675 --> 01:11:39,675 Chicken grease. 1567 01:11:45,955 --> 01:11:46,955 Shirley Ons. 1568 01:11:53,345 --> 01:11:55,685 Are you Ready? It's unbelievable. A little voodoo band. 1569 01:11:56,165 --> 01:11:57,205 Unbelievable. Maybe 1570 01:11:57,205 --> 01:11:58,485 This is my apex moment too. 1571 01:11:58,625 --> 01:11:59,765 Oh my God, man. It just gets better though. 1572 01:11:59,765 --> 01:12:01,925 Like to me, the apex is from here all the way to the end. 1573 01:12:02,785 --> 01:12:04,485 Sit back, strap in. Strap it. 1574 01:12:10,085 --> 01:12:10,325 I love 1575 01:12:10,325 --> 01:12:12,605 The OEO from Wizard of Oz. Yeah. It's amazing. 1576 01:12:13,585 --> 01:12:16,805 Hardly aware. Chilly rap 1577 01:12:19,575 --> 01:12:20,645 table in the chair point. 1578 01:12:24,945 --> 01:12:26,125 She literally phoning It in right now. 1579 01:12:26,125 --> 01:12:27,685 She's phoning it in. She's phoning it in. 1580 01:12:33,865 --> 01:12:35,205 Man. Her tie low on that. 1581 01:12:36,185 --> 01:12:38,325 Man. I saw Sheila E last year here at 1582 01:12:38,325 --> 01:12:39,405 the Sheldon. She still 1583 01:12:39,505 --> 01:12:41,125 Is Unbeliev. She's unbelievable. 1584 01:12:41,125 --> 01:12:43,045 Her band. Shout out Oakland. Yeah, man. 1585 01:12:43,745 --> 01:12:45,365 But she's on the telephone. 1586 01:12:46,205 --> 01:12:47,605 Couple days before this was released. 1587 01:12:47,765 --> 01:12:51,005 I believe they added this in because they were just jamming. 1588 01:12:51,655 --> 01:12:52,645 She'd leave you down on the phone, 1589 01:12:56,505 --> 01:12:57,645 but check out when the base starts. 1590 01:13:01,915 --> 01:13:04,285 Mark Brown. Wait, so they added that she, they 1591 01:13:04,995 --> 01:13:06,605 over the live track added 1592 01:13:06,605 --> 01:13:07,605 On the phone. Yeah. From like a year 1593 01:13:07,605 --> 01:13:08,125 later. Damn. 1594 01:13:09,195 --> 01:13:13,525 They recorded over Atlanta. 1595 01:13:13,665 --> 01:13:15,365 Um, Atlanta Bliss on the trumpet. 1596 01:13:21,225 --> 01:13:22,225 Dr. Fink. 1597 01:13:27,755 --> 01:13:31,445 Yeah. We got Bobby Z on the drums. Cila e on the conus. 1598 01:13:31,445 --> 01:13:34,285 Check out. Yeah. 1599 01:13:34,465 --> 01:13:38,565 So this is, this is very like gospel. Start walking. Right? 1600 01:13:40,515 --> 01:13:42,125 They got the whole band, the whole 1601 01:13:42,845 --> 01:13:44,205 audience singing background. 1602 01:13:48,195 --> 01:13:51,605 Nico Weaver, windy Melvoin on the guitar. 1603 01:13:51,855 --> 01:13:56,445 Brown mark on the bass keyboards. Lisa Coleman, Dr. Fink. 1604 01:13:57,395 --> 01:13:59,005 Eric leads on the saxophone. 1605 01:13:59,035 --> 01:14:00,885 Atlanta Bliss on the trumpet. Shout 1606 01:14:00,885 --> 01:14:01,885 Out Atlanta. 1607 01:14:03,515 --> 01:14:06,885 Jill Jones on the vocals. Woo. Ugh. 1608 01:14:08,795 --> 01:14:10,885 Yeah. Atlanta and Eric are locked in, man. 1609 01:14:42,075 --> 01:14:43,965 Yeah. So I mean, it's just the whole thing. 1610 01:14:44,465 --> 01:14:49,245 So it's, it's a weird, it's, it's a little bit, 1611 01:14:49,585 --> 01:14:51,165 um, what can I say? 1612 01:14:51,165 --> 01:14:52,805 My quibble bit too. No, we're not there yet. Yeah. 1613 01:14:52,805 --> 01:14:54,365 This is gonna come up as this is both my 1614 01:14:54,475 --> 01:14:55,645 apex moment and my quibble 1615 01:14:55,645 --> 01:14:56,645 Bit. I'm changing that to my 1616 01:14:56,645 --> 01:14:57,445 Apex moment as well. 1617 01:14:57,445 --> 01:14:58,605 What it, it was gonna be the help 1618 01:14:58,605 --> 01:14:59,765 me insert, but this is better. 1619 01:14:59,765 --> 01:15:02,165 Yeah. Uh, bespoke playlist title. What do you got? Um, 1620 01:15:02,865 --> 01:15:06,205 Get lost in the wonderful world of that dude. 1621 01:15:07,385 --> 01:15:08,925 Get lost in the wonderful world of 1622 01:15:08,925 --> 01:15:10,245 that dude. So we're on, this 1623 01:15:10,245 --> 01:15:11,325 Is gonna be All Prince. You're 1624 01:15:11,325 --> 01:15:13,925 On Apple Music or Spotify, wherever you listen to music. 1625 01:15:13,995 --> 01:15:15,445 Yeah. And you see a playlist 1626 01:15:15,665 --> 01:15:17,965 and it says, get lost in the wonderful world 1627 01:15:18,065 --> 01:15:19,165 of that dude. Yeah. 1628 01:15:19,165 --> 01:15:21,885 That the, the THHT or all capitalized that, 1629 01:15:21,945 --> 01:15:23,325 And it's this album. What else is on the album? 1630 01:15:23,515 --> 01:15:25,405 It's All Prince. Oh, well, there, no, 1631 01:15:25,525 --> 01:15:27,485 there's a couple other artists like the artist formerly 1632 01:15:27,485 --> 01:15:29,765 known as Prince, and then the, the artist and then, 1633 01:15:31,705 --> 01:15:34,165 Um, But this album, I feel like this is the first 1634 01:15:34,705 --> 01:15:37,165 Prince album of many that came after this. 1635 01:15:37,905 --> 01:15:39,165 Not necessarily consecutively, 1636 01:15:39,385 --> 01:15:40,765 but where you could get lost in it. 1637 01:15:40,855 --> 01:15:43,325 Right. I mean, this one's in particular 1638 01:15:43,325 --> 01:15:44,205 because of the different 1639 01:15:44,205 --> 01:15:45,525 versions now and how they're presented. 1640 01:15:45,745 --> 01:15:48,205 But I mean, really, like, there's such a world in there. 1641 01:15:48,205 --> 01:15:50,805 Like we're away from the, like, the story from the beginning 1642 01:15:50,905 --> 01:15:52,445 to the end because there's so much there. 1643 01:15:52,555 --> 01:15:54,485 There's like, even though this is live, there's a bunch 1644 01:15:54,485 --> 01:15:55,645 of like added vocals 1645 01:15:55,645 --> 01:15:57,965 and like overdubs the rap from Sheila E on that. 1646 01:15:58,265 --> 01:16:00,205 And then, you know, so there, there, there's just a, 1647 01:16:00,205 --> 01:16:03,525 it's a wonderful world that that's so, I mean, think about 1648 01:16:03,525 --> 01:16:08,085 that and um, uh, the cross right next to each other. 1649 01:16:08,105 --> 01:16:09,405 Oh, it's beautiful. Those two tracks. 1650 01:16:09,585 --> 01:16:12,365 That's like polar opposites that shouldn't work. Right. 1651 01:16:12,625 --> 01:16:15,525 And in a way that's a little bit like, A bit is like, is it? 1652 01:16:15,525 --> 01:16:17,325 Yeah. Does it work? But anyway, we'll get to that. 1653 01:16:17,625 --> 01:16:19,125 Uh, so my What's your Bespoke playlist? 1654 01:16:19,385 --> 01:16:20,925 My bespoke playlist, I'm glad you asked. 1655 01:16:21,225 --> 01:16:24,605 Is, is, is, uh, are 1656 01:16:24,605 --> 01:16:25,725 You working on the job here, man? 1657 01:16:25,785 --> 01:16:27,085 Are you, are you doing an opera? 1658 01:16:27,105 --> 01:16:28,685 Are you reading the, the doctor's manual 1659 01:16:28,905 --> 01:16:30,125 as you're doing an operation? 1660 01:16:30,385 --> 01:16:32,405 No, it's homework. No, I was just doing a little research. 1661 01:16:32,405 --> 01:16:34,805 Okay. It's home recorded hits. Home recorded hits. 1662 01:16:34,825 --> 01:16:36,525 So, so much of this was home recorded. Yeah. 1663 01:16:36,585 --> 01:16:39,405 Of just Prince in a room with an engineer. Except 1664 01:16:39,485 --> 01:16:40,365 What we just listened to. Except 1665 01:16:40,365 --> 01:16:41,365 For what we just listened to. But 1666 01:16:41,365 --> 01:16:42,285 10,000 so much of. 1667 01:16:42,385 --> 01:16:44,125 But there's a, there's a rich history of this, right? Yeah. 1668 01:16:44,125 --> 01:16:45,405 So there's like Stevie Yeah. 1669 01:16:45,495 --> 01:16:47,445 Doing this with, from music of my mind. Yeah. 1670 01:16:47,445 --> 01:16:50,005 Through that great run. Doing a lot of everything. Yeah. 1671 01:16:50,005 --> 01:16:51,485 Right. Um, McCartney too. 1672 01:16:51,485 --> 01:16:53,845 Paul McCartney's second solo album. 1673 01:16:53,915 --> 01:16:56,285 Michael Jackson. I mean, they're, they're kind of demos. 1674 01:16:56,285 --> 01:16:58,405 All those own demos, but they're close there. Right. Even 1675 01:16:58,405 --> 01:17:00,805 People like Bon Over from Modern Times who like would go 1676 01:17:00,805 --> 01:17:02,685 to a cabin and just record this, you know, 1677 01:17:03,305 --> 01:17:05,325 For Emma, Forever Ago, Ludwig 1678 01:17:05,325 --> 01:17:07,125 van Beethoven, Ludwig van. We don't know that. 1679 01:17:07,125 --> 01:17:08,125 He didn't, we can't find him. 1680 01:17:08,145 --> 01:17:09,645 You can't prove that he didn't. The lost tapes. Lost tape. 1681 01:17:09,645 --> 01:17:10,925 Tape, tape. So, quibble Bits. What are quibble bits? 1682 01:17:11,425 --> 01:17:13,645 My quibble bits is that this thing is all over the place. 1683 01:17:13,745 --> 01:17:15,565 But that's, that's, that's a feature. It's 1684 01:17:15,565 --> 01:17:16,725 The charm of it. And it's also like 1685 01:17:16,755 --> 01:17:17,755 Yeah. But more so than any 1686 01:17:17,755 --> 01:17:19,045 of the albums before it. I feel like. 1687 01:17:19,075 --> 01:17:20,805 True. But I'm also like, that's 1688 01:17:20,805 --> 01:17:22,045 what makes it so great and unique. 1689 01:17:22,045 --> 01:17:23,205 So it's not a real quibble bit. 1690 01:17:23,435 --> 01:17:26,805 Also maybe like the program drums as I always am, like, 1691 01:17:26,805 --> 01:17:29,525 but this is some of the most sophisticated, soulful, 1692 01:17:29,705 --> 01:17:32,725 badass use of a Lin drum and the other stuff. 1693 01:17:32,745 --> 01:17:33,965 So, I mean, it's, it's fantastic. 1694 01:17:34,065 --> 01:17:36,285 But I'm always like, it's always a little bit of a release. 1695 01:17:36,285 --> 01:17:38,205 And that's why it's an apex moment when we get to the live. 1696 01:17:38,485 --> 01:17:41,005 I know. You, You know, the, the one live, uh, 1697 01:17:41,255 --> 01:17:42,525 track except that deluxe 1698 01:17:42,525 --> 01:17:43,645 version, which has a bunch of live stuff. 1699 01:17:43,905 --> 01:17:45,205 The My Quil bit is similar. 1700 01:17:45,355 --> 01:17:47,405 It's like, it's part of what makes the record 1701 01:17:48,225 --> 01:17:49,485 unique and what, and good. 1702 01:17:49,505 --> 01:17:51,805 And I don't know if my suggestion 1703 01:17:51,805 --> 01:17:53,205 to change it would make it better. 1704 01:17:53,745 --> 01:17:54,845 But when I hear this 1705 01:18:00,945 --> 01:18:02,365 and then I hear this, 1706 01:18:12,565 --> 01:18:13,565 I think I'd rather hear this. 1707 01:18:13,935 --> 01:18:15,445 Right. But they're both Prince, I mean, 1708 01:18:15,445 --> 01:18:16,925 they're both like mistakenly 1709 01:18:16,925 --> 01:18:17,925 No, not musically or whatever. Songwriting. 1710 01:18:17,925 --> 01:18:19,645 Like the songwriting here is amazing. 1711 01:18:19,645 --> 01:18:20,925 But the, the, the, 1712 01:18:21,745 --> 01:18:24,205 the production go down quality wise a little bit. 1713 01:18:24,365 --> 01:18:27,005 I know. You know what I mean? Like, it feels I am such a, 1714 01:18:27,005 --> 01:18:28,285 you know, I'm a sucker for the seventies. 1715 01:18:28,285 --> 01:18:29,725 Yeah. You, I'm sucker you 1716 01:18:30,635 --> 01:18:33,005 Organic kind of sound Like it was recorded in space. 1717 01:18:33,115 --> 01:18:35,085 Yeah, yeah. You know, vacuum of space. Yeah. 1718 01:18:35,185 --> 01:18:38,325 And so all of this wet digital stuff Yeah. Is not my jam. 1719 01:18:38,625 --> 01:18:40,485 And this was the early digital. So it wasn't, 1720 01:18:40,685 --> 01:18:41,725 Honestly, we were talking about the millennials. 1721 01:18:42,085 --> 01:18:43,565 I think this is what keeps the millennials away. Are 1722 01:18:43,565 --> 01:18:44,565 You talking quietly? 'cause they're, 1723 01:18:44,565 --> 01:18:46,445 they're all around us, Peter. They're 1724 01:18:46,445 --> 01:18:47,445 Creepy there. They're shape 1725 01:18:47,445 --> 01:18:48,605 shifting all around us. 1726 01:18:49,145 --> 01:18:50,405 But man, I don't know. 1727 01:18:50,485 --> 01:18:53,525 I I But also it's like the, the production, the wet, the 1728 01:18:53,525 --> 01:18:57,125 Equivalent Is that you like, uh, his earlier albums more? 1729 01:18:57,505 --> 01:18:58,765 No, no, it's not. Oh God. No. 1730 01:18:59,145 --> 01:19:00,405 Wet the production. The 1731 01:19:00,525 --> 01:19:01,525 Production. I think did the production, 1732 01:19:01,525 --> 01:19:01,885 1733 01:19:02,545 --> 01:19:05,045 is the production better on those earlier albums 1734 01:19:05,795 --> 01:19:07,885 than the ones like post Purple Rain even? 1735 01:19:07,965 --> 01:19:12,725 I don't know, Even Parade. I just love that Dry. 1736 01:19:12,825 --> 01:19:16,085 That's clean as a, as a, a German Audubon, right? Yeah. 1737 01:19:16,085 --> 01:19:21,045 And then like, you know, then this is great. It's great. 1738 01:19:21,285 --> 01:19:23,445 I don't know, it's just the difference 1739 01:19:23,445 --> 01:19:27,965 between like a more sort of like, you know, dry recorded in, 1740 01:19:28,025 --> 01:19:30,045 you know, like a Nashville vacuum. 1741 01:19:30,395 --> 01:19:31,565 Yeah. Yeah. And then this, 1742 01:19:31,565 --> 01:19:33,165 which just has like a bunch of, I don't dunno. 1743 01:19:33,185 --> 01:19:34,925 That's my, it's fair. It's a small 1744 01:19:35,045 --> 01:19:36,045 Quibble. That's why they're called 1745 01:19:36,045 --> 01:19:36,285 Quibble 1746 01:19:36,285 --> 01:19:37,285 Sticks. Thermometer. What do you got? 1747 01:19:37,395 --> 01:19:38,245 It's speedometer. What do you have? Biometer. 1748 01:19:38,245 --> 01:19:39,125 This is a hard one. 1749 01:19:39,205 --> 01:19:40,285 I might have to reevaluate. 1750 01:19:40,285 --> 01:19:42,125 Lemme hear what you have first. 'cause that may influence mine. 1751 01:19:42,225 --> 01:19:44,845 I'm going five. So you've become me. 1752 01:19:44,845 --> 01:19:46,285 Whatcha talking about five? Maybe. 1753 01:19:46,485 --> 01:19:48,085 I was always five on the ter. 1754 01:19:48,085 --> 01:19:49,805 How are you giving me s**t about being five when 1755 01:19:49,805 --> 01:19:50,925 you were five for like 12 hours? 1756 01:19:51,085 --> 01:19:52,085 I just said, you're becoming me. You, 1757 01:19:52,085 --> 01:19:52,965 you're like, how is that? Maybe, 1758 01:19:53,385 --> 01:19:54,445 But I think this is a legit five. 1759 01:19:55,145 --> 01:19:56,285 I'm going three, but 1760 01:19:56,285 --> 01:19:57,285 Go ahead. I think it's, 1761 01:19:57,285 --> 01:20:01,635 it's was obviously a hit album. Yeah. 1762 01:20:01,895 --> 01:20:05,955 But man, if it's not like, again, like, not 1763 01:20:05,955 --> 01:20:07,365 as like it's not Purple Rain. 1764 01:20:07,365 --> 01:20:09,525 Right, right. It's not as the most fun. That'd be a one. 1765 01:20:09,635 --> 01:20:11,245 There's that would be a one. Yeah. 1766 01:20:11,385 --> 01:20:12,565 But that's what I'm saying. That's 1767 01:20:12,565 --> 01:20:13,925 maybe, maybe it is a three. I don't 1768 01:20:13,925 --> 01:20:14,925 Know. Yeah. That's why I went. 1769 01:20:14,925 --> 01:20:15,605 I'm like, I, 1770 01:20:15,675 --> 01:20:17,565 it's definitely not a one or a 10 or anything, 1771 01:20:17,705 --> 01:20:19,685 but I went three 'cause it's more towards this. 1772 01:20:19,845 --> 01:20:23,845 I still like a lot of like, at the time, radio Friendly 1773 01:20:24,625 --> 01:20:26,085 be because of how he prepped it. 1774 01:20:26,085 --> 01:20:28,565 Because of how the, the, the world of pop music was 1775 01:20:28,705 --> 01:20:30,845 and the, the the fully crossed over 1776 01:20:30,845 --> 01:20:31,925 the whole, the whole thing. 1777 01:20:32,425 --> 01:20:33,725 Um, and it's also, 1778 01:20:33,725 --> 01:20:35,885 you can't be like there, you know what it is too? 1779 01:20:36,085 --> 01:20:39,325 I think Prince is such a unique artist in that like, 1780 01:20:39,325 --> 01:20:41,725 if it's gonna really be snobby, like a five or above. 1781 01:20:41,865 --> 01:20:43,925 Mm-hmm. I mean there's some snobby, like if you, 1782 01:20:43,985 --> 01:20:45,085 if you wanna go down a, 1783 01:20:45,205 --> 01:20:47,445 a interesting rabbit hole, A freaky rabbit hole. 1784 01:20:47,445 --> 01:20:49,725 Mm-hmm. Go to there. There's like a Prince, um, 1785 01:20:50,515 --> 01:20:52,565 it's like a Prince Archive website. 1786 01:20:52,585 --> 01:20:54,525 It looks like, it's like the website was 1787 01:20:54,525 --> 01:20:55,685 created in like 1998. 1788 01:20:55,685 --> 01:20:56,965 Mm-hmm. But it's still updated, 1789 01:20:56,985 --> 01:20:58,725 but it has like, information about everything is ever 1790 01:20:58,965 --> 01:21:01,525 recorded, unreleased thing, all that madhouse stuff, 1791 01:21:01,585 --> 01:21:03,965 the jyp Japanese stuff, the bootleg. 1792 01:21:04,035 --> 01:21:06,405 Like there's so much snobby stuff about Prince 1793 01:21:06,405 --> 01:21:09,365 that I'm like, this couldn't be considered the snobby 1794 01:21:09,685 --> 01:21:10,765 anywhere close to the snobby ast. 1795 01:21:11,025 --> 01:21:12,805 But it's not Purple Rain. So I go three, 1796 01:21:14,185 --> 01:21:15,205 Uh, CCRE month. 1797 01:21:15,205 --> 01:21:16,325 Oh wait, sorry. No, I skipped one. 1798 01:21:16,425 --> 01:21:17,805 Uh, is it better than kind of blue? No. 1799 01:21:17,865 --> 01:21:19,125 No it is not. No. Do you 1800 01:21:19,485 --> 01:21:20,685 Question for you though, Or is it better? 1801 01:21:20,845 --> 01:21:22,365 Sorry, this is one where maybe it's like, 1802 01:21:22,385 --> 01:21:23,685 is it better than Innervisions? 1803 01:21:24,785 --> 01:21:26,005 No, no, No. 1804 01:21:26,525 --> 01:21:29,925 I mean, I would put, oh, I'm sorry. Would you put Intervi? 1805 01:21:29,925 --> 01:21:32,045 Is Innervisions better than KOB? Yes. 1806 01:21:32,045 --> 01:21:33,405 Like, which would, yeah. So that's, 1807 01:21:33,425 --> 01:21:35,125 that's almost like a higher, uh, 1808 01:21:35,425 --> 01:21:36,425 In my opinion. Opinion. I 1809 01:21:36,425 --> 01:21:37,725 mean, this is all subjective. Yeah. Yeah. 1810 01:21:37,865 --> 01:21:39,405 Um, acc Monts, what do you got? 1811 01:21:40,025 --> 01:21:43,485 Um, well, which version? The original cover. 1812 01:21:44,045 --> 01:21:46,285 I mean, I would give like a seven or an eight. 1813 01:21:46,885 --> 01:21:50,365 I mean, attractive young lady with the, with the heart. 1814 01:21:50,425 --> 01:21:52,125 But like, I don't even know at this point. 1815 01:21:52,125 --> 01:21:54,125 Like there's a whole generation that don't know that cover. 1816 01:21:54,125 --> 01:21:57,125 Right. There's the whatever, Spotify and Apple Music. 1817 01:21:57,505 --> 01:21:59,125 And then there's, there's the version 1818 01:21:59,125 --> 01:22:00,205 which is a little bit different. 1819 01:22:00,275 --> 01:22:03,445 Some of that stuff was Prince, um, authorized. 1820 01:22:03,685 --> 01:22:05,685 Actually I'm gonna go eight because I love like the, what, 1821 01:22:05,685 --> 01:22:07,125 what do you call this font here with the, 1822 01:22:07,305 --> 01:22:08,325 and he's already got the symbol 1823 01:22:08,325 --> 01:22:09,525 going. Well, no, that's the peace 1824 01:22:09,525 --> 01:22:10,525 Symbol drip font. I don't 1825 01:22:10,525 --> 01:22:12,205 actually don't know. I don't know. Anyway, 1826 01:22:12,205 --> 01:22:13,205 What do you got? I 1827 01:22:13,205 --> 01:22:16,525 got a 10 because all things Prince are a Reman 10. 1828 01:22:16,725 --> 01:22:18,925 I mean, the guy is down to every detail 1829 01:22:18,985 --> 01:22:20,085 of his purple jumpsuit. 1830 01:22:20,115 --> 01:22:22,365 Perfect. You know what I'm saying? Care. But that's not, not 1831 01:22:22,365 --> 01:22:24,325 The cover, but this is the cover for that. We're going by 1832 01:22:24,655 --> 01:22:25,805 CIMAs doesn't just mean cover. 1833 01:22:25,805 --> 01:22:26,965 It means it doesn't the whole 1834 01:22:27,505 --> 01:22:29,045 of the situation's. Of course it 1835 01:22:29,045 --> 01:22:30,045 Does. We're have to, we're have to revisit 1836 01:22:30,045 --> 01:22:30,245 1837 01:22:30,245 --> 01:22:31,445 That course. It does. You could 1838 01:22:31,445 --> 01:22:33,085 Have sent me a Slack message on that my friend. 1839 01:22:33,665 --> 01:22:35,525 Uh, what do you have up next? I 1840 01:22:35,605 --> 01:22:37,205 Have the fine Young cannibals, the Raw 1841 01:22:37,205 --> 01:22:40,045 and the Cooked, which was released in January of 1988. 1842 01:22:40,045 --> 01:22:42,045 Just 'cause I feel like they really made a big meal out 1843 01:22:42,045 --> 01:22:43,325 of the sign of the Times. 1844 01:22:43,945 --> 01:22:45,085 The fine young cannibals. 1845 01:22:45,115 --> 01:22:47,245 Well, that would be a big www though, 1846 01:22:47,345 --> 01:22:48,645 if you're, if that's your up next. 1847 01:22:48,645 --> 01:22:50,445 Are you, are you kidding me? You would I love the meal. 1848 01:22:50,465 --> 01:22:54,125 The dessert sucks. No, but it's, yeah. Well 1849 01:22:54,205 --> 01:22:55,205 She drives me crazy. But 1850 01:22:55,205 --> 01:22:56,285 that would be a fall off, 1851 01:22:56,285 --> 01:22:58,285 especially after that one track. Probably. They all 1852 01:22:58,285 --> 01:22:59,445 Print the check after this one. 1853 01:22:59,665 --> 01:23:02,525 Of course, of course. Um, I've got Purple Wayne up next 1854 01:23:02,525 --> 01:23:05,525 because I want, I'm, you know, maybe a little bit, bit of a, 1855 01:23:05,845 --> 01:23:07,525 a backwards look, but we're, we're in The Prince. 1856 01:23:07,725 --> 01:23:08,685 I mean, like, that's literally 1857 01:23:08,685 --> 01:23:09,725 what I'd probably listen to next. 1858 01:23:09,755 --> 01:23:10,965 Yeah, that's a good call. I be in Prince 1859 01:23:10,965 --> 01:23:11,925 Mode. That's a great call. Yeah, 1860 01:23:12,265 --> 01:23:13,265 That's a challenge. It's a, 1861 01:23:13,265 --> 01:23:13,925 that's a edgy 1862 01:23:14,235 --> 01:23:15,235 Call, isn't it? It's 1863 01:23:15,235 --> 01:23:18,005 super edgy, not unexpected. Uh, you wanna read a 1864 01:23:18,005 --> 01:23:20,005 Zapping five FYC Find, find Young Cannibal? 1865 01:23:20,625 --> 01:23:24,445 Um, yes, I would. As a matter of fact, I'm Adam Manni. 1866 01:23:24,665 --> 01:23:26,645 No, I'm Peter Martin. I'm reading what it says. 1867 01:23:26,775 --> 01:23:28,605 Thank you to producer, editor and drummer. 1868 01:23:28,605 --> 01:23:32,605 Caleb Kirby, sound engineer. Sam Mo videographer. 1869 01:23:32,905 --> 01:23:34,725 Andrew Steven, that's his government name. 1870 01:23:35,205 --> 01:23:38,245 Designer Ian Martin, producer Liz Hammes, Hammes, 1871 01:23:38,355 --> 01:23:39,685 depending on where you're coming from. 1872 01:23:40,105 --> 01:23:44,365 And a very special thank you to Bob Debo on base. Yeah. 1873 01:23:44,705 --> 01:23:46,525 Um, this is our se season finale, 1874 01:23:46,525 --> 01:23:47,605 but we got, it's our season finale. 1875 01:23:47,605 --> 01:23:49,405 Do we know what we have next week? We don't know. Something 1876 01:23:49,405 --> 01:23:52,565 Like, well, I'm gonna be doing a No, this is a little 1877 01:23:52,565 --> 01:23:56,855 Teaser for whatcha. 1878 01:23:57,425 --> 01:23:58,695 She's preach trusting me. 1879 01:23:58,955 --> 01:24:00,015 No, I'm gonna be doing a little, um, 1880 01:24:00,555 --> 01:24:01,815 Are you sure we want to say it? Yeah, 1881 01:24:01,815 --> 01:24:02,815 Yeah. No, we're, I'm dropping 1882 01:24:02,815 --> 01:24:03,295 an episode. 1883 01:24:03,295 --> 01:24:05,775 We're, I'm gonna be talking about the best jazz albums 1884 01:24:05,775 --> 01:24:07,255 that have come out in 2025. 1885 01:24:07,285 --> 01:24:09,255 Like, some of my favorite stuff that has come out, 1886 01:24:09,255 --> 01:24:10,575 some new stuff that 1887 01:24:10,575 --> 01:24:13,535 Is, It's some good music on this actually. 1888 01:24:13,535 --> 01:24:14,575 There's a couple albums on there that we're 1889 01:24:14,575 --> 01:24:15,615 gonna be listening to in the next season. 1890 01:24:15,995 --> 01:24:17,615 Oh yeah, yeah. So some 1891 01:24:17,615 --> 01:24:19,815 of the best album jazz albums of 2025. 1892 01:24:20,235 --> 01:24:22,375 Uh, so that, uh, you can end your year listening 1893 01:24:22,375 --> 01:24:23,495 to some really good music. 1894 01:24:23,885 --> 01:24:25,575 Well check back here Monday to find out. 1895 01:24:25,575 --> 01:24:26,855 Until next time you'll hear it.