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Welcome to the Soul Touched by Dogs
Podcast, the show for dog lovers who

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see dogs not as toys or tools, but
wise souls worth our respect and care.

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I'm an Herrmann, and I'm your host.

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I talk to poor some humans, people who
do great work for dogs and their people.

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So come and join us for
today's conversation.

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Anke: Hello and welcome, Mindy.

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I'm super excited to record
this episode with you.

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Mindy: Thank you so much for
inviting me to be on your podcast.

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I'm thrilled.

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Anke: And I'm super excited because
you have a very interesting and very

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particular angle to come at this topic.

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So, but I don't want to kind of take,
take away any of the, of the thunder.

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So why don't you just start
out like, let people know where

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in this lovely world you are.

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And so what's your business, dogs?

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Mindy: Actually, I just moved a week ago,
and I'm right now in Martha's Vineyard.

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And, um, so for, in Massachusetts.

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And, um, my business is Dogs I Meet.

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And essentially I am a dog
photographer and um, I love dogs.

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I love photography.

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And I thought, Hey, I'm
going to make a business.

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And ultimately what was important to
me was to be doing something that I

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felt, um, was, was benefiting dogs
and, and the people that love them.

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Um, so from a perspective of just.

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People who, who have dogs, photographing
them, um, is something special

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because people don't think about it.

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They don't think about having professional
photos or, or pictures of their dog.

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And, um, I speak from experience.

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Um, it's something you
will never be sorry.

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Having photos that do justice to
your dog and show their spirit.

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You okay?

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And show their spirit and
their, and their light.

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Um, or something that is really priceless.

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Um, and also, For dogs that need homes,
photography is so important, um, because,

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um, people need to see dogs for what
they are, um, and be able to see a dog

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that they can envision in their home.

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So a good photograph of a dog looking
for a home is really important.

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It could be the difference between
them getting adopted or not.

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Um, Organizations doing great work
without photos people don't know or

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situations that happen in in other places.

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Um, I had an opportunity to go to
Puerto Rico after Hurricane Maria

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to document what was happening.

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Um, you know, you hear about it,
but seeing it So I, um, have found

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a way to bridge dog advocacy with
brand marketing, as well as, uh,

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photography, you know, for advocacy.

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Um, and, um, I do my best to,
to, to do good with my photos.

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I

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Anke: love that.

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I love that.

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And I think the thing is, It's not
easy to get a good shot of your dog.

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You don't know what you're doing.

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I've tried.

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Mindy: It's true.

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It is a specific, you know, um,
specific niche in photography.

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Um, and the, the, the
real key is patience.

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Um, I work on the dog schedule.

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Um, I work around a dog's personality.

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And, um, if you think about it from
a dog's perspective, so number one,

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if you want to take a good picture,
you want to get down low and you

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want to be on the dog's level.

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We, uh, we often call it owner's angle
because people take pictures from

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above of their dog on the ground.

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Well, that's not on the dog's.

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That's not their perspective.

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So the pictures that you're really
drawn to, if you think about it,

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they're at eye level with the dog.

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So just a few pointers and patience.

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You know, people are just like,
I'm ready to take a photo.

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It's the same thing with
your kids and dogs are like.

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I don't think so.

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So, you know, you need to engage
them, you need to motivate them,

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um, and you just really need to kind
of go on their, their time frame.

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Um, so that's not so

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Anke: true for everything, right?

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Mindy: Exactly.

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You know, and, and especially like When I
have a big camera, the dog is just seeing

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not my face, they're seeing the camera.

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That's scary.

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So I, before, generally before I will
start photographing, I'll spend time,

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I don't ever pick up the camera.

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right away.

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I want them to get a
sense of they're safe.

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It's, it's, it's okay.

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Um, and a lot of times I'll just
keep the camera at my side and

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click it and give them a treat.

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So they get a connection.

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You use it as a clicker, right?

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Right, exactly.

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To, to, this is fun.

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Um, you know, and I mean,
it, it, it, it varies.

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It depends on the type of
photo shoot that I'm doing.

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Um, you know, if I'm doing more of
a documentary, you know, I don't.

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I'm taking pictures in the moment, um,
but again, I still, you know, I usually

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will maintain some kind of eye contact.

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Um, I'll tend to use a longer lens
so I can keep a little bit more

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distance and I'm not in the dog's face.

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When I'm doing that.

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So, you know, assess the situation
and, and go with it from there.

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Um, but to me, I just, you know,
when you can see the spirit of

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the dog in those photos and, and
capture it, it's just priceless.

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Anke: That is beautiful.

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And to use it to tell a story, right?

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Because it's not just that particular
moment, especially when you say you go,

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you know, you go into these shelters
and you go into these different spaces.

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Then, or, you know, like, or the, the,
the veterinary, like the hospital, and

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it's like, that's telling a whole story.

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Mindy: Exactly.

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The tagline, and I, I am obsessed with
storytelling, um, so it's a big part, you

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know, I, I don't consider it just a photo.

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I consider an opportunity to tell
a story or at least with photos,

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what's interesting is you get
to pick the story in your mind.

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So you lead them to a place and then
people see a photograph and it's,

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you know, they finish the story.

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in their, in their minds.

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Um, but the tagline of my business
is because every dog has a tail.

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T A L A.

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And I believe dogs have many, many tails.

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Um, and they have their stories, they
have the stories that they bring to us.

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Um, just so many.

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different things.

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I recently did a project, um, for an
organization called Paws for Patrick,

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which is a wonderful organization
that helps young people, um, with,

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um, some mental health problems.

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And they help them get ESA,
emotional support animals, whether

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it's a dog or a cat, and they sort
of help them through the process.

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And, um, Having these dogs or cats for
the young people is a real lifeline.

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Um, and I photographed one of
their, their clients, which was a

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young woman who had adopted a cat.

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Um, and, um, the cat itself had, uh,
it's a common known, it's a disorder

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amongst, cats, but she loved that,
that the cat also, you know, had,

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had a problem and that she could
help the cat, um, with that problem.

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And it's just brought so much, she's
just a great, Like so much calmer

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and she loves the cat and I wish
I should show you a picture of it.

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I'll send it to you.

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But I was able to photograph them
and capture that bond along with the

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whole story of, of the relationship
and of the organization that

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facilitated, you know, coming about.

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And that was all, you know,
through the lens of my camera.

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It's

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Anke: really one of those, you know,
where, where you, where you think

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of this, uh, you know, the picture,
you know, is a thousand words or

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like, I think that really just pops
to mind because it illustrates or

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it's that it gives that story that.

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So what, what would you say was
your favorite project or, you know,

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where you think like, what was the
most heartwarming, uh, client or

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story you've ever, you've ever done?

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Mindy: There's been so
many, there really has.

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There is one, well, there's
more than one, but that, that

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stands out in, in, in my mind.

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Um, one was a woman that hired me to,
uh, as a, to photograph her and her

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husband's dog was really her husband's
dog and she knew that the dog didn't

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have long and that she didn't think he
was going to do well the husband was

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going to do well when the dog passed so
she wanted me to photograph for the dog

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and uh it was December and we actually
the dog's favorite place was the beach

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Massachusetts so it was cold but it was
like the stars aligned that day and it

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was a beautiful spring like day and um
the dog You know, kind of like perked up

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and I, I got these magnificent photos.

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Like you could just see the
love, um, between the family

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and them carrying the dog.

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And, and I did the best I could to
make sure that, um, the dog, I, I

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honored the dog and made him look as.

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strong and healthy, uh,
you know, as possible.

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And, um, the dog passed away a couple
of days after that photo shoot.

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Um, and the people were just so grateful,
um, you know, for, for the photos.

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And, um, so that one in
particular stays in my mind.

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And honestly, so many, I went to
a neuter clinic once and, um, in

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Mexico and They, they neutered
like 1, 500 dogs over five days.

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And there was one dog that wandered in.

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It didn't have an owner.

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It just, I guess it smelled the food
and saw the people and the veterinarians

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realized the dog needed to be neutered.

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So the poor dog wandered in for a
snack and wound up getting neutered.

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But it came back every day.

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to the, and hung out at the clinic.

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And I don't know, there was
just something about that dog.

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It was just like such a connection
that, that I had with the dog.

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And then it was crazy because,
um, one of the days I wasn't at

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the clinic at the time, I was in
town that wasn't even close to it.

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And I saw the dog.

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And I was just like, I actually ran
in and tried to buy food and feed

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the dog, but the dog stayed with me.

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And that dog has honestly
been my inspiration, um, to

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work with spay neuter clinics.

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And I have gone on working with
nonprofits and so forth to raise

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probably tens of thousands of dollars.

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And it was that dog.

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Wow.

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Anke: That's incredible.

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That's incredible.

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And so, so tell me a little bit about
these adoption photos, because I

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don't know, like that's, Like I've
seen it makes such a difference.

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Like there is an Instagram account
that I sometimes come across

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where they kind of taste this.

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They often have these before and
after pictures, you know, like

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this was the intake photo and you
see some scared creature in some

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cage, you know, some ugly cage.

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And then you see this little goofball
like, you know, when they have this

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Professional photoshoot and it's
like it makes, I mean, are there any,

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uh, numbers or, I mean, I don't know
if we even need numbers to say like

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how much more likely it is for a dog
to get adopted with a decent photo.

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Mindy: It's, it's, it's huge.

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It literally is the difference
between life and death.

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A photo like that, um, I, I use the
example of not everybody has the

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ability to, to, to visualize, um, you
know, a dog that's sad and scared is

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gonna be that same dog that they're
gonna love more than anything.

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Um, just like if you walk into a
house, some people can say, oh yeah, I

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know, I can do this and I can do that.

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And they see it.

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And other people just say.

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That they just see what they see.

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Um, so that's why it's so, so important.

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These photos make all the
difference to these dogs.

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Um, and what one example, um, I recently
did a photo shoot, um, for, um, a hotel in

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New York and I used as my dog models, um,
two, uh, different dogs that needed to be.

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had been in the adoption system,
so to speak, for six, seven months.

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One of the dogs, um, was, was a senior
dog and the rescue was doing great work.

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It was being fostered, trying to get
the dog adopted, and it was the sweetest

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dog with a wonderful personality, but
it just wasn't getting And I took photos

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of it, um, you know, in a dog friendly
hotel and it was, they, they were, you

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know, funny, sweet and, and you can
really kind of see the dog's personality.

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And the dog still didn't get
adopted right afterwards.

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Um, but there's an organization
called Susie Seniors.

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I don't know if you know about them.

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Um, they also do wonderful work
and they feature dogs that.

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need to find a home and are senior dogs.

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Um, so the rescue reached out
to Susie Senior and asked them,

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actually that was where I found
the dog, was on Susie Seniors.

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So they reached out to them again
and asked them to please, you

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know, do another, um, feature of
the dog, and they used my photos.

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Um, and the story was, was that the
dog, Huck was his name, didn't get

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adopted the first time around, but a
photographer saw it and used the dog

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in the, you know, for this photo shoot.

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And the dog got adopted, and someone
said, I saw that photo, and it spoke to

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me, and I knew that that dog was for me.

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And I, Recently, uh, the rescue
sent me a whole batch of photos and

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just said, can't thank you enough.

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You know, um, and I was just
like, oh, that's what it's

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Anke: all about.

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Isn't that like, it's that that piece is
like, oh, and it is like that, you know,

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once sometimes like you see it, look
at a photo and it just speaks to you.

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And that's, yeah.

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Oh, that's, that's so beautiful.

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And it's funny that you kind of like this.

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When people walk into a house, I
experienced that with the dress making.

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You know, some people would go
and, and see a roll of fabric,

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like, you know, obviously like me.

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Yeah.

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But sometimes clients as well,
they see a roll of fabric

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and we'd go like, oh my God.

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Because in, in your mind, you
already see the dress and all

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the things you can do with it.

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Most people Oh, okay.

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Until they see the thing almost
finished, they cannot picture it.

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And it's the same thing.

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Right.

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Mindy: So the power of photography
is just a very, very powerful, um,

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medium and, and more so, I mean, I,
I know, and, and video is wonderful.

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Um, video is sort of the rage.

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Now, more so than stills, but
there is something about a still

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photograph that just draws you
in and, and, and speaks to you.

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Yeah.

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I

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Anke: think that I don't think
photos and videos really compete.

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It's just a different medium.

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True, true.

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There's nothing

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Mindy: just like that one
moment captured, you know.

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Yeah, it does it.

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That's the thing about it.

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It's a, it's a moment in time that gets
frozen and even children, if you sometimes

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children have their early memories.

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It's not them.

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They don't have a memory.

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It's the photo.

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That they've seen as they got
older becomes their memory.

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Um, you know, so it's,
it's really interesting

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Anke: Yeah.

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That, that, yeah, totally.

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Totally.

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So where can people go and
find out more about you?

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Where can they connect with

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Mindy: you?

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Where can they hire you?

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Um, so it's pretty simple.

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The name of my business is Dogs.

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I meet MEET.

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Uh, my website is Dogs I meet.com.

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Uh, my Instagram is at Dogs.

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I meet.

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My email is hello at dogs.

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I meet and my Facebook is dogs.

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I meet my LinkedIn is under my
name Mindy Dutka reach out Email me

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direct message me call me you know
and Love to talk with you work with

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Anke: you Thank you, thank you
so much for coming Yeah, that's

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just It's just heartwarming to
see what can be done and when it's

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all applied in this beautiful way.

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I just love it.

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Thank you.

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Mindy: Thank you.

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Thank you so much for
having me on your show.

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