WEBVTT

1
00:00:00.800 --> 00:00:03.680
<v Speaker 1>You're listening to The Bible Guys, a podcast where a

2
00:00:03.720 --> 00:00:06.440
<v Speaker 1>couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun, in

3
00:00:06.559 --> 00:00:07.480
<v Speaker 1>practical ways.

4
00:00:11.439 --> 00:00:15.160
<v Speaker 2>Here we are here, We are back again, We are here,

5
00:00:15.199 --> 00:00:15.800
<v Speaker 2>back at it.

6
00:00:16.079 --> 00:00:18.399
<v Speaker 1>Yes, we're in our studio, which, by the way, nobody

7
00:00:18.399 --> 00:00:19.559
<v Speaker 1>really knows where it is, do they.

8
00:00:19.640 --> 00:00:22.320
<v Speaker 2>Well, it's secret. It's in a secret bumper bunker. It's

9
00:00:22.320 --> 00:00:24.519
<v Speaker 2>like the Secret Bible Guys studio.

10
00:00:24.839 --> 00:00:27.239
<v Speaker 3>We're broadcasting to you from the batcave.

11
00:00:29.239 --> 00:00:31.839
<v Speaker 1>Nobody really knows where it is, but it's it's but

12
00:00:32.200 --> 00:00:34.200
<v Speaker 1>it's in between where you live and where I live.

13
00:00:34.359 --> 00:00:35.000
<v Speaker 2>That's correct.

14
00:00:35.399 --> 00:00:38.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, how about that? That's good and and you have

15
00:00:38.439 --> 00:00:40.520
<v Speaker 3>to know us to know what that means.

16
00:00:40.600 --> 00:00:43.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if you're looking for a good studio, our friend

17
00:00:43.399 --> 00:00:48.119
<v Speaker 2>David Damcheck runs this podcast studio. Lots of different people

18
00:00:48.240 --> 00:00:50.399
<v Speaker 2>use this podcast studio. Yes, really great. So if you

19
00:00:50.439 --> 00:00:51.920
<v Speaker 2>ever looking for a good studio, let us know.

20
00:00:52.200 --> 00:00:54.799
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yep, yeah, there you go. We we didn't even

21
00:00:54.799 --> 00:00:56.960
<v Speaker 1>plan on saying that, but what great to say.

22
00:00:57.039 --> 00:00:57.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is good.

23
00:00:58.039 --> 00:01:00.560
<v Speaker 3>Wait, today we are wrapping up our week.

24
00:01:00.359 --> 00:01:04.599
<v Speaker 1>Because it is Friday, and we are going to launch

25
00:01:04.680 --> 00:01:06.319
<v Speaker 1>into a very familiar segment.

26
00:01:06.400 --> 00:01:08.760
<v Speaker 2>But before we get into that, segment or before we

27
00:01:08.799 --> 00:01:11.319
<v Speaker 2>get into the big story today, because this is Elijah

28
00:01:11.400 --> 00:01:16.439
<v Speaker 2>confronting a king. Yes, right, and but before we do that,

29
00:01:17.040 --> 00:01:19.879
<v Speaker 2>we need you to confront all of the societal problems

30
00:01:20.439 --> 00:01:24.239
<v Speaker 2>in our lives. What you're doing the transition, I know,

31
00:01:24.959 --> 00:01:26.519
<v Speaker 2>I'm becoming an expert at this man.

32
00:01:26.680 --> 00:01:27.280
<v Speaker 3>Wow.

33
00:01:27.480 --> 00:01:31.200
<v Speaker 2>And so this is everybody's favorite segment because on behalf

34
00:01:31.239 --> 00:01:34.120
<v Speaker 2>of all of us, you let us know what made

35
00:01:34.200 --> 00:01:35.200
<v Speaker 2>Chris mad this week?

36
00:01:35.359 --> 00:01:38.000
<v Speaker 3>Yes, well I'm mad for the world, Jeff, Yes, thank you.

37
00:01:38.200 --> 00:01:39.599
<v Speaker 3>I'm not just thank you me.

38
00:01:39.680 --> 00:01:41.959
<v Speaker 2>You're good to us, Chris. That's what I'm trying to say,

39
00:01:42.239 --> 00:01:44.280
<v Speaker 2>thank you, And I think you'll agree with So what

40
00:01:44.319 --> 00:01:46.000
<v Speaker 2>made Chris mad this week? By the way, I said,

41
00:01:46.000 --> 00:01:47.359
<v Speaker 2>Oh hey, by the way, the next segment is what

42
00:01:47.400 --> 00:01:49.120
<v Speaker 2>made Chris mad this week? He didn't even look up

43
00:01:49.120 --> 00:01:51.920
<v Speaker 2>from his page. He goes, already know what that is? Yeah,

44
00:01:52.000 --> 00:01:54.000
<v Speaker 2>So you didn't even have to think. You didn't think

45
00:01:54.040 --> 00:01:56.879
<v Speaker 2>for a second about it. You didn't have to look up.

46
00:01:57.200 --> 00:01:58.599
<v Speaker 2>You just went, I know what it is?

47
00:01:58.760 --> 00:02:01.920
<v Speaker 1>Yes, okay, yes, And here's what it is. And it's

48
00:02:01.959 --> 00:02:09.080
<v Speaker 1>in one one phrase. Somehow, the new telemarketers are finding

49
00:02:09.159 --> 00:02:12.800
<v Speaker 1>ways for your phone to ring and it says a name,

50
00:02:12.919 --> 00:02:13.719
<v Speaker 1>a random name.

51
00:02:13.879 --> 00:02:14.919
<v Speaker 3>Oh did you know that?

52
00:02:15.039 --> 00:02:15.759
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know that.

53
00:02:16.039 --> 00:02:19.919
<v Speaker 1>So so instead of it saying like potential spam, which

54
00:02:20.000 --> 00:02:22.719
<v Speaker 1>thank goodness for those calls, right, we just hit you know,

55
00:02:23.319 --> 00:02:28.199
<v Speaker 1>decline or whatever. Now the last thirty calls that have

56
00:02:28.280 --> 00:02:31.439
<v Speaker 1>come in because my name must be on a list, right, I.

57
00:02:31.439 --> 00:02:33.159
<v Speaker 2>Bet your name's on a lot of lists, Chris.

58
00:02:34.800 --> 00:02:37.800
<v Speaker 3>There's Billy Madison where there's a list of people. He

59
00:02:37.879 --> 00:02:39.599
<v Speaker 3>wanted to kill the kid who in front of him.

60
00:02:39.960 --> 00:02:44.400
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, the point is is that sorry, my random brand,

61
00:02:45.280 --> 00:02:49.280
<v Speaker 1>but anyway, Yeah, so now the last thirty calls I

62
00:02:49.360 --> 00:02:51.719
<v Speaker 1>must be on a list have come up and they

63
00:02:51.800 --> 00:02:55.000
<v Speaker 1>just say a name, and sometimes you look at the

64
00:02:55.000 --> 00:02:56.919
<v Speaker 1>area code and you're like, oh, is this a person?

65
00:02:56.960 --> 00:02:58.759
<v Speaker 1>I know? You know, they must be my contacts whatever

66
00:02:58.800 --> 00:03:00.840
<v Speaker 1>it is, but they have now found out a way

67
00:03:00.879 --> 00:03:03.360
<v Speaker 1>to attach it to this. Well, here's what made me Matt.

68
00:03:03.680 --> 00:03:06.879
<v Speaker 1>I was on a very very important call. I was

69
00:03:06.919 --> 00:03:09.000
<v Speaker 1>on a call about with the bank.

70
00:03:09.560 --> 00:03:13.479
<v Speaker 2>And because you do wheels and deals all the time,

71
00:03:13.639 --> 00:03:16.840
<v Speaker 2>right at that time, yeah, you're talking to one of

72
00:03:16.879 --> 00:03:19.400
<v Speaker 2>your bankers, Yeah, one of my bankers.

73
00:03:19.479 --> 00:03:21.680
<v Speaker 3>And I'm on the phone call. But then what ends

74
00:03:21.759 --> 00:03:22.199
<v Speaker 3>up happening.

75
00:03:22.280 --> 00:03:26.719
<v Speaker 1>Is this random uh uh, you know, telemarketing call comes

76
00:03:26.759 --> 00:03:31.080
<v Speaker 1>in and it says a name and just coincidentally happened

77
00:03:31.080 --> 00:03:35.240
<v Speaker 1>to be the last name of a funeral that I'm doing,

78
00:03:35.960 --> 00:03:38.240
<v Speaker 1>And so I thought to myself, oh no, did I

79
00:03:38.240 --> 00:03:39.360
<v Speaker 1>get the funeral time wrong?

80
00:03:39.800 --> 00:03:41.400
<v Speaker 3>Is this a family saying where are you?

81
00:03:41.800 --> 00:03:41.919
<v Speaker 2>Like?

82
00:03:42.159 --> 00:03:43.599
<v Speaker 3>Which you know, of course it wasn't.

83
00:03:43.960 --> 00:03:46.080
<v Speaker 1>And so I'm on the phone with this bank talking

84
00:03:46.120 --> 00:03:48.439
<v Speaker 1>about opening up this account and all these different kinds

85
00:03:48.479 --> 00:03:52.319
<v Speaker 1>of things, and I said, I'm so sorry, but I

86
00:03:52.360 --> 00:03:55.080
<v Speaker 1>have to put you on hold. And this lady on

87
00:03:55.120 --> 00:03:57.879
<v Speaker 1>the other end is like, I'm sorry. What I'm like,

88
00:03:58.319 --> 00:04:00.560
<v Speaker 1>I I'm so sorry, I have to put you on hold,

89
00:04:00.960 --> 00:04:02.960
<v Speaker 1>And so I put her on hold. I click over,

90
00:04:03.400 --> 00:04:05.080
<v Speaker 1>and then you know, it just doesn't say anything for

91
00:04:05.080 --> 00:04:06.639
<v Speaker 1>a minute, you know, and I'm like hello, Hello, and

92
00:04:06.639 --> 00:04:08.800
<v Speaker 1>then just waits like ten seconds. They goes all of

93
00:04:08.840 --> 00:04:10.400
<v Speaker 1>a sudden, you know, clicks, and all of a sudden

94
00:04:10.400 --> 00:04:12.879
<v Speaker 1>you hear all the tele you know, and it's and

95
00:04:12.879 --> 00:04:16.240
<v Speaker 1>it's usually somebody who lives across the world, right, And

96
00:04:16.240 --> 00:04:18.639
<v Speaker 1>they goes somebody in India air or something, and and

97
00:04:18.920 --> 00:04:21.199
<v Speaker 1>hello is this mister? And of course they came from

98
00:04:21.240 --> 00:04:26.759
<v Speaker 1>Assal Hell is this mister z click? You know, I

99
00:04:26.879 --> 00:04:29.319
<v Speaker 1>just click immediately, right, and I go back, and I'm like,

100
00:04:29.399 --> 00:04:30.519
<v Speaker 1>I'm so angry.

101
00:04:30.639 --> 00:04:33.399
<v Speaker 3>Oh and then I lost the call. I go to

102
00:04:33.439 --> 00:04:33.839
<v Speaker 3>click back.

103
00:04:34.560 --> 00:04:36.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then it was just a big thing, right,

104
00:04:36.839 --> 00:04:39.199
<v Speaker 1>and so anyway, it was just terrible, and I just

105
00:04:39.240 --> 00:04:44.399
<v Speaker 1>thought to myself, I am so angry that now telemarkers

106
00:04:44.439 --> 00:04:48.480
<v Speaker 1>have found a way to ruin my life again, you know,

107
00:04:48.560 --> 00:04:51.399
<v Speaker 1>for a while, until I can figure out how to

108
00:04:51.480 --> 00:04:53.480
<v Speaker 1>just ignore everybody miss important calls.

109
00:04:53.480 --> 00:04:54.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what to do.

110
00:04:54.680 --> 00:04:56.839
<v Speaker 3>Do you just, yeah, you just miss everything.

111
00:04:56.959 --> 00:05:00.279
<v Speaker 2>I don't answer anything. I don't recognize. Yeah that it's

112
00:05:00.279 --> 00:05:01.040
<v Speaker 2>off the top of my head.

113
00:05:01.079 --> 00:05:03.720
<v Speaker 3>So that's what some people do. But in the case

114
00:05:03.759 --> 00:05:05.800
<v Speaker 3>of the funeral, I was afraid it was also.

115
00:05:05.600 --> 00:05:08.279
<v Speaker 2>Means I missthinks sometimes. Yeah, I feel bad about.

116
00:05:08.079 --> 00:05:09.240
<v Speaker 3>That, Yeah for sure.

117
00:05:09.519 --> 00:05:12.399
<v Speaker 2>But anyway, that's but I'm not walking around raging either, right,

118
00:05:12.519 --> 00:05:14.839
<v Speaker 2>So there's it. Yeah, So anyway, how do you know

119
00:05:14.920 --> 00:05:16.879
<v Speaker 2>that that guy that called you though, wasn't from a

120
00:05:16.920 --> 00:05:20.680
<v Speaker 2>bigger bank offering you a better deal from India? Yeah,

121
00:05:20.720 --> 00:05:21.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't.

122
00:05:21.360 --> 00:05:22.399
<v Speaker 3>I don't think so, you.

123
00:05:22.439 --> 00:05:25.639
<v Speaker 1>Know, Actually I think they were connected to King that

124
00:05:25.680 --> 00:05:30.839
<v Speaker 1>they wanted me to email toll.

125
00:05:29.519 --> 00:05:32.240
<v Speaker 2>Just just in Amazon carts.

126
00:05:32.199 --> 00:05:35.040
<v Speaker 3>Right yeah, anyway, okay, anyway.

127
00:05:35.040 --> 00:05:36.639
<v Speaker 2>That's so, that's what made you mad, is that the

128
00:05:36.680 --> 00:05:39.199
<v Speaker 2>telemarketers are finding a way around the thing.

129
00:05:39.439 --> 00:05:39.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

130
00:05:39.680 --> 00:05:42.439
<v Speaker 1>And what's what's ironic about that statement is I when

131
00:05:42.439 --> 00:05:44.000
<v Speaker 1>telemarketing very first came out.

132
00:05:44.199 --> 00:05:47.639
<v Speaker 3>You were in nineteen ninety, I.

133
00:05:47.639 --> 00:05:49.800
<v Speaker 1>Was I was making a ton of money, the most

134
00:05:49.800 --> 00:05:53.000
<v Speaker 1>money I've ever made by far during that time, because

135
00:05:53.040 --> 00:05:54.279
<v Speaker 1>I was a great telemarketer. Ye.

136
00:05:54.680 --> 00:05:57.600
<v Speaker 2>So but now you hate them, Well, it's what comes

137
00:05:57.759 --> 00:06:00.279
<v Speaker 2>what goes around comes around, Chris. This is a lord

138
00:06:00.439 --> 00:06:03.399
<v Speaker 2>just repaying you.

139
00:06:03.120 --> 00:06:06.040
<v Speaker 3>You're paying your dues, buddy. Yeah, yeah, that's right, the fiddler.

140
00:06:06.279 --> 00:06:09.000
<v Speaker 2>Right, you planted a seed and now you're reaping a whirlwind.

141
00:06:09.120 --> 00:06:11.920
<v Speaker 2>Right yeah, you plant a wind and reap a whirlwind.

142
00:06:11.959 --> 00:06:14.800
<v Speaker 2>Isn't that what God said? So you know, when you

143
00:06:14.839 --> 00:06:18.079
<v Speaker 2>plant one colonel of corn, you end up getting a

144
00:06:18.120 --> 00:06:20.600
<v Speaker 2>six foot stock with two or three ears of corn,

145
00:06:20.639 --> 00:06:23.720
<v Speaker 2>with hundreds of kernels of corn on it. Listen, so

146
00:06:23.839 --> 00:06:24.519
<v Speaker 2>you know what's coming.

147
00:06:24.680 --> 00:06:25.199
<v Speaker 3>I am mad.

148
00:06:25.759 --> 00:06:28.360
<v Speaker 2>I think of the think of the thousands of telemarketing

149
00:06:28.360 --> 00:06:31.680
<v Speaker 2>phone calls you've planted. All those little seeds are kind

150
00:06:31.720 --> 00:06:33.480
<v Speaker 2>of gone back in the hundreds of thousands.

151
00:06:35.560 --> 00:06:36.519
<v Speaker 3>It's everybody.

152
00:06:36.920 --> 00:06:39.560
<v Speaker 1>There are people out there that are experiencing what I'm experiencing.

153
00:06:39.879 --> 00:06:43.199
<v Speaker 2>Those of us that know that you were a successful

154
00:06:43.240 --> 00:06:47.519
<v Speaker 2>telemarketer are struggling to feel compassion for you. There's no

155
00:06:47.560 --> 00:06:50.040
<v Speaker 2>compassion for there's no compassion because you're the one that

156
00:06:50.879 --> 00:06:53.600
<v Speaker 2>the problem. You're the one who refined the system. Hey,

157
00:06:53.759 --> 00:06:56.560
<v Speaker 2>you're the one who made it better, and it came to.

158
00:06:56.639 --> 00:06:59.120
<v Speaker 3>Un I did it at a time where everybody actually listened.

159
00:06:59.160 --> 00:07:01.480
<v Speaker 2>Remember when Jesus to Peter, if you live by the sword,

160
00:07:01.519 --> 00:07:02.480
<v Speaker 2>you'll die by the swords.

161
00:07:02.480 --> 00:07:05.560
<v Speaker 3>It's true. It's true. That's true.

162
00:07:07.120 --> 00:07:10.160
<v Speaker 2>Fine, No, I'm gonna laugh. I'm laughing with you, not

163
00:07:10.240 --> 00:07:10.600
<v Speaker 2>at you.

164
00:07:10.680 --> 00:07:12.480
<v Speaker 3>Okay, No, I'm laughing at you.

165
00:07:13.040 --> 00:07:13.720
<v Speaker 2>Should be honest.

166
00:07:14.040 --> 00:07:15.800
<v Speaker 3>Hey, I almost feel like I have no defense.

167
00:07:15.920 --> 00:07:16.800
<v Speaker 2>You don't have any defense.

168
00:07:17.480 --> 00:07:21.959
<v Speaker 1>You have no defense, right because I I did build

169
00:07:22.120 --> 00:07:27.879
<v Speaker 1>a living off of really destroying the concept of people.

170
00:07:27.600 --> 00:07:30.319
<v Speaker 2>Call the sanctity of your own home the sanctity back

171
00:07:30.319 --> 00:07:34.040
<v Speaker 2>when people only had one phone, back when they had

172
00:07:34.199 --> 00:07:37.240
<v Speaker 2>one phone. Right, it's the only thing you had to

173
00:07:37.240 --> 00:07:39.639
<v Speaker 2>get up out of your chair and run over because

174
00:07:39.759 --> 00:07:42.360
<v Speaker 2>it might be Grandma, it might be you know, some

175
00:07:42.399 --> 00:07:45.519
<v Speaker 2>big news. It might be art link letter telling you

176
00:07:45.560 --> 00:07:48.720
<v Speaker 2>that you want a million dollars, right, and instead it

177
00:07:48.759 --> 00:07:50.639
<v Speaker 2>was our boss selling you beds.

178
00:07:52.079 --> 00:07:59.160
<v Speaker 3>Or long distance or discover cards or all sorts of things.

179
00:08:00.519 --> 00:08:05.000
<v Speaker 2>So anyway, it's good for you, Chris, okay. Speaking of

180
00:08:05.040 --> 00:08:11.800
<v Speaker 2>good for you and being confronted by telemarketers, Elijah has

181
00:08:11.839 --> 00:08:18.120
<v Speaker 2>to confront King a Haziah confrontations. Confrontations, that's right. Yeah,

182
00:08:18.319 --> 00:08:21.240
<v Speaker 2>So in Second King's chapter one, verse eighteen.

183
00:08:21.000 --> 00:08:23.600
<v Speaker 1>Well, you already you already preemptively did the transition. You

184
00:08:23.639 --> 00:08:24.480
<v Speaker 1>just did two transmits.

185
00:08:24.480 --> 00:08:27.879
<v Speaker 2>I know I gave you two. I'm feeling particularly generous

186
00:08:27.879 --> 00:08:28.839
<v Speaker 2>with transitions today.

187
00:08:29.120 --> 00:08:30.439
<v Speaker 3>You're so generous today.

188
00:08:30.879 --> 00:08:33.600
<v Speaker 2>So uh, well, I gave you a million points yesterday

189
00:08:33.600 --> 00:08:36.240
<v Speaker 2>for every correct answer. You know what, I'm just telling you.

190
00:08:36.320 --> 00:08:38.559
<v Speaker 2>I am feeling so unbelievably generous.

191
00:08:38.600 --> 00:08:41.120
<v Speaker 3>I think it's about time we acknowledge your generosity. I'm

192
00:08:41.120 --> 00:08:41.600
<v Speaker 3>a good guy.

193
00:08:41.840 --> 00:08:45.600
<v Speaker 2>You are a good young Speaking of good guys, Elijah confronted.

194
00:08:45.840 --> 00:08:49.600
<v Speaker 3>Wow, that's my third transition.

195
00:08:50.279 --> 00:08:53.200
<v Speaker 2>He goes. After King Ahab's death, the land of Moab

196
00:08:53.279 --> 00:08:57.600
<v Speaker 2>rebelled against Israel. One day, Israel's new King a Haziah

197
00:08:57.840 --> 00:09:00.279
<v Speaker 2>fell through the lattice work of an upper room at

198
00:09:00.279 --> 00:09:03.159
<v Speaker 2>his palace in Samaria, and was seriously injured. So he

199
00:09:03.200 --> 00:09:06.679
<v Speaker 2>sent messengers to the temple of bailz Abub, the god

200
00:09:06.720 --> 00:09:09.840
<v Speaker 2>of Ekron, to ask whether he would recover. I don't

201
00:09:09.879 --> 00:09:13.039
<v Speaker 2>think I'd be checking out Belzebub's answers about anything, doubt.

202
00:09:13.919 --> 00:09:18.759
<v Speaker 2>Why would he be named that, because yeah, all false

203
00:09:18.759 --> 00:09:21.080
<v Speaker 2>gods come from the devil. Anyways, But the Angel the

204
00:09:21.080 --> 00:09:23.679
<v Speaker 2>Lord told Elijah, who was from Tishba, go and confront

205
00:09:23.720 --> 00:09:25.519
<v Speaker 2>the messengers of the King of SAMERI and ask them,

206
00:09:25.559 --> 00:09:27.639
<v Speaker 2>is there no god in Israel? Why are you going

207
00:09:27.679 --> 00:09:30.320
<v Speaker 2>to belz Abub, the God of Ekron, to ask whether

208
00:09:30.320 --> 00:09:33.200
<v Speaker 2>the king will recover? Now, therefore, this is what the

209
00:09:33.240 --> 00:09:36.000
<v Speaker 2>Lord says. You will never leave the bed you're lying on.

210
00:09:36.080 --> 00:09:39.480
<v Speaker 2>You will surely die. So Elijah went to deliver the message.

211
00:09:39.960 --> 00:09:42.120
<v Speaker 2>When the messengers returned to the king, he asked them,

212
00:09:42.120 --> 00:09:43.879
<v Speaker 2>why have you returned so soon? And they replied, A

213
00:09:43.919 --> 00:09:45.559
<v Speaker 2>man came up to us and told us to go

214
00:09:45.600 --> 00:09:47.399
<v Speaker 2>back to the king and given this message. This is

215
00:09:47.399 --> 00:09:49.000
<v Speaker 2>what the Lord says, There's no is there no god

216
00:09:49.000 --> 00:09:51.360
<v Speaker 2>in Israel? Why are you sending men to bales abub

217
00:09:51.440 --> 00:09:54.240
<v Speaker 2>the god of Achron, to ask whether you recover. Therefore,

218
00:09:54.240 --> 00:09:56.639
<v Speaker 2>because you've done this, you will never leave the bed

219
00:09:56.799 --> 00:09:59.279
<v Speaker 2>you are lying on. You will surely die. What sort

220
00:09:59.320 --> 00:10:01.399
<v Speaker 2>of man was he? The king demanded, what do you

221
00:10:01.480 --> 00:10:03.120
<v Speaker 2>look like? And they replied he was a hairy man

222
00:10:03.159 --> 00:10:06.080
<v Speaker 2>and he wore a leather belt around his waist. Elijah

223
00:10:06.120 --> 00:10:08.799
<v Speaker 2>from Tishpa, the king explained, exclaimed that.

224
00:10:08.759 --> 00:10:13.559
<v Speaker 1>Maybe that's where we get the rugged description. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

225
00:10:13.559 --> 00:10:16.559
<v Speaker 1>there it is right there. Yeah, he saw.

226
00:10:17.159 --> 00:10:19.559
<v Speaker 2>Then he sent an army captain with fifty soldiers to

227
00:10:19.639 --> 00:10:22.120
<v Speaker 2>arrest him. They found him sitting on top of a hill,

228
00:10:22.120 --> 00:10:23.519
<v Speaker 2>and the captain said to him, man of God, the

229
00:10:23.600 --> 00:10:25.759
<v Speaker 2>king has commanded you to come down with us. But

230
00:10:25.840 --> 00:10:28.279
<v Speaker 2>Elijah applied to the captain, if I'm a man of God,

231
00:10:28.559 --> 00:10:30.440
<v Speaker 2>let fire come down from heaven and destroy you and

232
00:10:30.480 --> 00:10:32.799
<v Speaker 2>your fifty men. Then fire fell from heaven and killed

233
00:10:32.799 --> 00:10:33.120
<v Speaker 2>them all.

234
00:10:33.919 --> 00:10:34.279
<v Speaker 3>Wow.

235
00:10:34.320 --> 00:10:36.399
<v Speaker 2>So the king sent another captain with fifty men, and

236
00:10:36.440 --> 00:10:37.919
<v Speaker 2>the captain said, of the man of God, the king

237
00:10:38.000 --> 00:10:40.759
<v Speaker 2>demands that you come down at once. Elijah applied, if

238
00:10:40.759 --> 00:10:43.519
<v Speaker 2>I'm a man of God, let fire come from heaven

239
00:10:43.879 --> 00:10:46.320
<v Speaker 2>and destroy you and your fifty men. And again the

240
00:10:46.360 --> 00:10:48.240
<v Speaker 2>fire of God fell from heaven and killed them all

241
00:10:49.200 --> 00:10:52.799
<v Speaker 2>once more. Not learning his lesson, the king sent a

242
00:10:52.840 --> 00:10:55.200
<v Speaker 2>third captain with fifty men. But this time the captain

243
00:10:55.240 --> 00:10:57.320
<v Speaker 2>went up the hill and fell to his knees before Elijah.

244
00:10:57.360 --> 00:10:59.320
<v Speaker 2>He pleaded with him, Oh, Man of God, please spare

245
00:10:59.360 --> 00:11:01.360
<v Speaker 2>my life and the life of these your fifty servants.

246
00:11:03.000 --> 00:11:05.440
<v Speaker 2>See how the fire from heaven came down and destroyed

247
00:11:05.440 --> 00:11:08.720
<v Speaker 2>the first two groups. But please now spare my life.

248
00:11:09.320 --> 00:11:11.519
<v Speaker 2>Then the angel Lord said to Elijah, go down with him,

249
00:11:11.559 --> 00:11:13.879
<v Speaker 2>and don't be afraid of him. So Elijah got up

250
00:11:13.919 --> 00:11:16.159
<v Speaker 2>and went with him to the king. Elijah said to

251
00:11:16.159 --> 00:11:18.000
<v Speaker 2>the king, this is what the Lord says. Why did

252
00:11:18.039 --> 00:11:20.840
<v Speaker 2>you send messengers to bales above the God of Ekron

253
00:11:20.919 --> 00:11:23.399
<v Speaker 2>to ask whether you recover? Is there no God in

254
00:11:23.519 --> 00:11:26.320
<v Speaker 2>Israel to answer your question. Therefore, because you've done this,

255
00:11:26.399 --> 00:11:28.200
<v Speaker 2>you will never leave the bed you're lying on, and

256
00:11:28.240 --> 00:11:32.080
<v Speaker 2>you will surely die. So a Haziah died, just as

257
00:11:32.080 --> 00:11:35.320
<v Speaker 2>the Lord had promised through Elijah. Since Aziah did not

258
00:11:35.559 --> 00:11:37.720
<v Speaker 2>have a son to succeed him, his brother Joram became

259
00:11:37.759 --> 00:11:40.039
<v Speaker 2>the next king. This took place in the second year

260
00:11:40.080 --> 00:11:43.679
<v Speaker 2>of the reign of Jehoram. Son of Jehashaphat, king of Judah.

261
00:11:43.879 --> 00:11:46.039
<v Speaker 2>The rest of the events in a Haziah's reign are

262
00:11:46.080 --> 00:11:47.679
<v Speaker 2>recorded in the Book of the History of the Kings

263
00:11:47.679 --> 00:11:48.159
<v Speaker 2>of Israel.

264
00:11:49.960 --> 00:11:53.240
<v Speaker 3>Yikes, so, yikes, in that whole story.

265
00:11:53.320 --> 00:11:55.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I think this calling down fire from heaven

266
00:11:55.399 --> 00:11:57.159
<v Speaker 2>things becoming a habit for Elijah.

267
00:11:57.240 --> 00:11:58.840
<v Speaker 3>Well, he knows it'll happen.

268
00:11:58.960 --> 00:12:01.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, rightly, you have pretty.

269
00:12:01.240 --> 00:12:06.639
<v Speaker 1>Much confidence, right, I mean, so Johasaphat apparently is no

270
00:12:06.720 --> 00:12:11.519
<v Speaker 1>longer king, and now Jehoram No, no, no, no. I was

271
00:12:11.559 --> 00:12:15.759
<v Speaker 1>gonna say, Jehoram is the king in Judah. Yeah, and

272
00:12:16.000 --> 00:12:21.000
<v Speaker 1>Joram is the king, yes of the Yeah, thanks for that.

273
00:12:21.960 --> 00:12:25.440
<v Speaker 1>Let's just make it confusing. It's it's consistently like that.

274
00:12:25.759 --> 00:12:29.000
<v Speaker 1>Remember it was Jereboam and Raya Boham. Now it's Joram

275
00:12:29.039 --> 00:12:29.759
<v Speaker 1>and Jehoram.

276
00:12:30.080 --> 00:12:35.080
<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, anyway, people need to work on their names.

277
00:12:36.279 --> 00:12:40.200
<v Speaker 1>So uh so poor as a Hyah was only king

278
00:12:40.320 --> 00:12:44.200
<v Speaker 1>for less than two years and uh and he has

279
00:12:44.240 --> 00:12:47.799
<v Speaker 1>a terrible injury and he fell through lattice, right, and

280
00:12:47.840 --> 00:12:50.879
<v Speaker 1>he's seriously injury and uh. And he sent messengers to

281
00:12:50.919 --> 00:12:56.480
<v Speaker 1>the Temple of Beelzebub, Temple of beelz isn't that crazy?

282
00:12:56.600 --> 00:13:00.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, it says here Bail's abub Bail. It's not

283
00:13:00.879 --> 00:13:06.639
<v Speaker 2>bl zebub. Its bail ubb bail zubub. Yeah. With another

284
00:13:06.720 --> 00:13:09.279
<v Speaker 2>popular god whose temple is located in the city of Akron.

285
00:13:09.399 --> 00:13:11.799
<v Speaker 2>Because this god was thought to have the power of prophecy,

286
00:13:12.480 --> 00:13:15.279
<v Speaker 2>King a Hasah sent his messengers to Akron to learn

287
00:13:15.320 --> 00:13:20.080
<v Speaker 2>his fate. Supernatural power and mystery were associated with Bail's above.

288
00:13:20.639 --> 00:13:25.440
<v Speaker 2>A Hasiah's action showed the king's disrespect for God. So

289
00:13:25.519 --> 00:13:27.440
<v Speaker 2>this isn't the same god as the god.

290
00:13:27.320 --> 00:13:31.159
<v Speaker 3>Bail, right, it's bail Zubub.

291
00:13:31.919 --> 00:13:33.360
<v Speaker 2>It's above related to Bail.

292
00:13:34.440 --> 00:13:35.440
<v Speaker 3>I have a random comment.

293
00:13:35.679 --> 00:13:38.600
<v Speaker 1>Okay, back in the seventies there was a show called

294
00:13:38.639 --> 00:13:39.279
<v Speaker 1>Morkan Mindy.

295
00:13:39.480 --> 00:13:40.559
<v Speaker 2>I remember Mark Mindi.

296
00:13:40.679 --> 00:13:44.840
<v Speaker 1>And uh uh he he would grab his ears and he.

297
00:13:44.799 --> 00:13:49.240
<v Speaker 3>Would go h he would do that. Oh, which which

298
00:13:49.240 --> 00:13:49.759
<v Speaker 3>is which.

299
00:13:49.559 --> 00:13:51.799
<v Speaker 1>I always thought, even back then it was bad that.

300
00:13:51.840 --> 00:13:53.200
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I was like, why would you say that?

301
00:13:53.240 --> 00:13:58.240
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, back then, will I just remember now, no, Nana? Yeah, right,

302
00:13:58.320 --> 00:14:01.480
<v Speaker 2>that's right, yeah, right, so I remember. Okay, So anyways,

303
00:14:01.639 --> 00:14:04.360
<v Speaker 2>you know we're old, no doubt. Yeah. The next thing

304
00:14:04.440 --> 00:14:06.360
<v Speaker 2>it is, you start talking about Ponderosa.

305
00:14:06.440 --> 00:14:08.679
<v Speaker 3>By the way, I was gonna say, we've we lost

306
00:14:09.759 --> 00:14:10.480
<v Speaker 3>like three.

307
00:14:10.399 --> 00:14:15.039
<v Speaker 2>Quarters our young demographic was growing, and we just wiped

308
00:14:15.080 --> 00:14:18.399
<v Speaker 2>the whole thing out with that one thing.

309
00:14:18.919 --> 00:14:21.120
<v Speaker 3>We're sorry, hey, Charlie, sorry about that.

310
00:14:21.720 --> 00:14:26.840
<v Speaker 2>Exactly right. So it says that Elijah was a hairy

311
00:14:26.919 --> 00:14:28.720
<v Speaker 2>man and he wore a leather belt around his waist.

312
00:14:28.759 --> 00:14:31.559
<v Speaker 2>I love it when he goes, Okay, what kind of guy?

313
00:14:31.639 --> 00:14:33.840
<v Speaker 2>What he looked like? Oh, he was a hairy man

314
00:14:33.879 --> 00:14:35.240
<v Speaker 2>and he wore a and he.

315
00:14:35.200 --> 00:14:38.120
<v Speaker 3>Goes, elijahja tis belt.

316
00:14:40.159 --> 00:14:46.639
<v Speaker 2>He knew immediately, man. Yeah, remember on another old show,

317
00:14:46.679 --> 00:14:53.879
<v Speaker 2>remember Seinfeld, Yes, where he goes, right, that's newman, right,

318
00:14:54.440 --> 00:14:57.240
<v Speaker 2>that's it right there, So he knew it. Well, what

319
00:14:57.360 --> 00:15:00.159
<v Speaker 2>an amazing phrase. One of the things I love about this,

320
00:15:00.240 --> 00:15:03.200
<v Speaker 2>by the way, is Elijah's consistency. So he, you know,

321
00:15:03.240 --> 00:15:06.840
<v Speaker 2>the angel says, is there no God in Israel? Why

322
00:15:06.879 --> 00:15:08.720
<v Speaker 2>are you going to bails above the God of Ekron

323
00:15:08.840 --> 00:15:12.080
<v Speaker 2>to ask whether the king will recover? Go and challenge

324
00:15:12.120 --> 00:15:14.440
<v Speaker 2>them he's and tell him he's never gonna leave his bed.

325
00:15:14.840 --> 00:15:18.039
<v Speaker 2>You will surely die. So Elijah goes and says those

326
00:15:18.159 --> 00:15:20.240
<v Speaker 2>exact words, is there no God in Israel? Why are

327
00:15:20.240 --> 00:15:22.080
<v Speaker 2>you sending men to bales above the God of Ekron

328
00:15:22.080 --> 00:15:24.320
<v Speaker 2>to ask whether you recover. Therefore, because you've done this,

329
00:15:24.440 --> 00:15:26.000
<v Speaker 2>you will never leave the bed you're lying on. You

330
00:15:26.000 --> 00:15:29.519
<v Speaker 2>will surely die. It's easy to tell other people a

331
00:15:29.559 --> 00:15:32.039
<v Speaker 2>thing like that. But then the king finally goes, Okay,

332
00:15:32.200 --> 00:15:34.240
<v Speaker 2>bring you in. He comes in and he looks at

333
00:15:34.279 --> 00:15:35.639
<v Speaker 2>King Rate in the eye and says, this is what

334
00:15:35.679 --> 00:15:38.480
<v Speaker 2>the Lord said. Why did you send messengers to bails

335
00:15:38.480 --> 00:15:40.360
<v Speaker 2>above the God of Achron to ask whether you recover?

336
00:15:40.679 --> 00:15:43.440
<v Speaker 2>Is there no God in Israel to answer your question. Therefore,

337
00:15:43.480 --> 00:15:45.080
<v Speaker 2>because you've done this, you will never leave the bed

338
00:15:45.120 --> 00:15:47.879
<v Speaker 2>you're lying on. You will surely die. He never changed

339
00:15:47.879 --> 00:15:49.159
<v Speaker 2>his message.

340
00:15:48.879 --> 00:15:51.120
<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah, well you read it literally three times.

341
00:15:51.159 --> 00:15:53.919
<v Speaker 2>He gave it exactly the way that God said it.

342
00:15:54.159 --> 00:15:57.039
<v Speaker 2>He didn't change it, he didn't soften it. He didn't.

343
00:15:57.360 --> 00:15:59.600
<v Speaker 2>He just said. And I think that there's a tremendous

344
00:15:59.600 --> 00:16:02.120
<v Speaker 2>amount of power of not trying to explain away what

345
00:16:02.200 --> 00:16:05.000
<v Speaker 2>God says to just come in and go listen. This

346
00:16:05.120 --> 00:16:08.480
<v Speaker 2>isn't me, this is God, and God is saying, Thus

347
00:16:08.519 --> 00:16:10.799
<v Speaker 2>saith the Lord. And this was going to happen because

348
00:16:10.840 --> 00:16:13.200
<v Speaker 2>I think I would be tempted to soften it when

349
00:16:13.240 --> 00:16:15.000
<v Speaker 2>I come and talk to the king. Maybe it's easier

350
00:16:15.000 --> 00:16:17.759
<v Speaker 2>to talk to the messengers because they're just messengers. But

351
00:16:17.840 --> 00:16:21.840
<v Speaker 2>when you when you're talking up to somebody bigger and more,

352
00:16:22.120 --> 00:16:23.679
<v Speaker 2>what you feel like is more powerful than you. Although

353
00:16:23.679 --> 00:16:25.240
<v Speaker 2>I don't know that this king has called dow on

354
00:16:25.320 --> 00:16:28.240
<v Speaker 2>fire from heaven a few times, so maybe Elijah had

355
00:16:28.240 --> 00:16:30.840
<v Speaker 2>a different view of this king. But he came in

356
00:16:30.879 --> 00:16:35.360
<v Speaker 2>and spoke directly and exactly without altering God's words. And

357
00:16:35.440 --> 00:16:40.960
<v Speaker 2>I would always caution anybody to be careful about listening

358
00:16:41.039 --> 00:16:43.279
<v Speaker 2>to what they read on the internet or listening to

359
00:16:43.320 --> 00:16:47.240
<v Speaker 2>somebody who changes the meaning. Well, God didn't really mean

360
00:16:47.240 --> 00:16:50.840
<v Speaker 2>it that way. Those were the old days, those were

361
00:16:50.879 --> 00:16:54.080
<v Speaker 2>the old times. That was a cultural thing, you know.

362
00:16:54.159 --> 00:16:57.000
<v Speaker 2>There's all these kind of phrases. If the Bible says that,

363
00:16:57.039 --> 00:16:59.360
<v Speaker 2>you can believe it, and then the Bible will correct

364
00:16:59.360 --> 00:17:02.440
<v Speaker 2>itself need people to correct it, so the Bible will

365
00:17:02.480 --> 00:17:05.799
<v Speaker 2>be its own best commentary. And so if the Bible

366
00:17:05.880 --> 00:17:09.240
<v Speaker 2>is consistent and continues to carry the same consistent phraseology

367
00:17:09.279 --> 00:17:13.480
<v Speaker 2>and the same consistent things from Moses to Jesus to Paul, Okay,

368
00:17:13.640 --> 00:17:15.400
<v Speaker 2>then guess what I don't need to change it, and

369
00:17:15.440 --> 00:17:18.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't need to find some loophole to get around it.

370
00:17:18.000 --> 00:17:20.880
<v Speaker 2>It's what God said, right, and then we just stick

371
00:17:20.960 --> 00:17:22.720
<v Speaker 2>with that. And this is one of the things I

372
00:17:22.720 --> 00:17:26.440
<v Speaker 2>loved about Elijah is you never find Elijah saying anything

373
00:17:26.799 --> 00:17:29.160
<v Speaker 2>different than what God said exactly the way that God

374
00:17:29.200 --> 00:17:31.079
<v Speaker 2>said it. And I think that might be part of

375
00:17:31.079 --> 00:17:33.960
<v Speaker 2>the big power that Elijah seems to have. Right.

376
00:17:34.240 --> 00:17:37.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you know what, it's I just talked about

377
00:17:37.079 --> 00:17:38.640
<v Speaker 1>this the other day. There was somebody that came in

378
00:17:38.839 --> 00:17:44.319
<v Speaker 1>one that meet with me and and he's he married

379
00:17:44.319 --> 00:17:46.400
<v Speaker 1>into a Greek family, so we had a connection because

380
00:17:46.400 --> 00:17:49.720
<v Speaker 1>my daughter's dating and yeah, and we talked about just

381
00:17:49.880 --> 00:17:54.599
<v Speaker 1>the idea that sometimes there are topics where they're they're uncomfortable,

382
00:17:54.680 --> 00:17:59.200
<v Speaker 1>they're hot topics, they're controversial, it'll split a crowd immediately,

383
00:17:59.319 --> 00:18:01.720
<v Speaker 1>and it's uh, you know. And we talked about how,

384
00:18:01.839 --> 00:18:04.440
<v Speaker 1>well we're just gonna we're just gonna unapologetically say what

385
00:18:04.480 --> 00:18:05.160
<v Speaker 1>the Bible says.

386
00:18:05.519 --> 00:18:05.960
<v Speaker 3>That's it.

387
00:18:06.200 --> 00:18:08.279
<v Speaker 1>And then if people get really really mad, you can say, well,

388
00:18:08.279 --> 00:18:08.960
<v Speaker 1>don't get mad at me.

389
00:18:09.200 --> 00:18:10.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I didn't write it.

390
00:18:10.079 --> 00:18:11.960
<v Speaker 3>I didn't write it right, Right, this is what the

391
00:18:11.960 --> 00:18:12.519
<v Speaker 3>Bible says.

392
00:18:13.000 --> 00:18:14.960
<v Speaker 1>And there are times but you know, you got to

393
00:18:15.000 --> 00:18:16.839
<v Speaker 1>choose those times, and you got to you got to

394
00:18:16.880 --> 00:18:19.720
<v Speaker 1>choose when and where you say those things. But when

395
00:18:19.839 --> 00:18:22.920
<v Speaker 1>you say them, you say them unapologetically.

396
00:18:22.240 --> 00:18:25.240
<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, you speak the truth in love, that's right.

397
00:18:25.359 --> 00:18:27.799
<v Speaker 2>So there's been many times where somebody wanted to confront

398
00:18:27.799 --> 00:18:30.519
<v Speaker 2>me about, you know, what does hair to Church believe about?

399
00:18:30.559 --> 00:18:33.519
<v Speaker 2>You know, some major social issue. And I will say,

400
00:18:33.559 --> 00:18:36.079
<v Speaker 2>listen the way you're asking the question, this is a

401
00:18:36.079 --> 00:18:39.000
<v Speaker 2>really big deal to you. And I know that there's

402
00:18:39.160 --> 00:18:42.559
<v Speaker 2>a lot of emotion and feelings in this, and so

403
00:18:42.680 --> 00:18:45.519
<v Speaker 2>I recognize that I see that, And before I answer

404
00:18:45.599 --> 00:18:47.640
<v Speaker 2>your question, the first thing I feel like what you're

405
00:18:47.680 --> 00:18:49.480
<v Speaker 2>really asking me is do I accept you? And do

406
00:18:49.519 --> 00:18:51.839
<v Speaker 2>I love you? And the answer unequivocally is yes, I

407
00:18:51.880 --> 00:18:55.079
<v Speaker 2>love you? Right, I said. But then, if you're coming

408
00:18:55.079 --> 00:18:58.119
<v Speaker 2>to me as a pastor saying what does God say? Right,

409
00:18:58.160 --> 00:18:59.599
<v Speaker 2>if you're saying what is hair to church? Say hair

410
00:18:59.640 --> 00:19:02.079
<v Speaker 2>to church? As I love you, you're saying what does

411
00:19:02.160 --> 00:19:05.400
<v Speaker 2>God say about this? Then, as a representative of God

412
00:19:05.400 --> 00:19:07.759
<v Speaker 2>and God's word, this is what God says? And then

413
00:19:08.039 --> 00:19:10.200
<v Speaker 2>so I can express love and at the same time

414
00:19:10.240 --> 00:19:13.079
<v Speaker 2>speak the truth, right, Right, And I found myself doing

415
00:19:13.119 --> 00:19:17.119
<v Speaker 2>that many many times. Well that that precursor statement is

416
00:19:17.839 --> 00:19:20.680
<v Speaker 2>it oftentimes softens people because what they're coming in is,

417
00:19:20.799 --> 00:19:23.200
<v Speaker 2>am I welcome here? Are you going to tolerate me?

418
00:19:23.279 --> 00:19:23.480
<v Speaker 1>Here?

419
00:19:23.599 --> 00:19:25.559
<v Speaker 2>Are you going to treat me as a second class

420
00:19:25.559 --> 00:19:28.759
<v Speaker 2>citizen here? Or whatever? And when you say, hey, listen,

421
00:19:28.799 --> 00:19:31.519
<v Speaker 2>love is love is the core of what we're about.

422
00:19:32.400 --> 00:19:36.200
<v Speaker 2>But also thus say it the Lord. Those two things together, sure,

423
00:19:36.480 --> 00:19:38.200
<v Speaker 2>and I love you enough to tell you the truth.

424
00:19:38.359 --> 00:19:41.519
<v Speaker 1>Well, it's neither do I condemn you, Now go and

425
00:19:41.559 --> 00:19:44.279
<v Speaker 1>send no more right, right, So it's it's looking at

426
00:19:44.279 --> 00:19:46.240
<v Speaker 1>the rich and ruler and loving him and then saying,

427
00:19:46.279 --> 00:19:50.079
<v Speaker 1>now go sell all your possessions. So it's the same

428
00:19:50.119 --> 00:19:53.759
<v Speaker 1>thing where you know, we took this course that talked

429
00:19:53.759 --> 00:19:56.319
<v Speaker 1>about they give it weird names. They talked about invitation

430
00:19:56.400 --> 00:20:00.319
<v Speaker 1>and challenge. How Jesus would always have the inviting part

431
00:20:00.359 --> 00:20:03.480
<v Speaker 1>of himself, the love part, right, and then the challenge

432
00:20:03.519 --> 00:20:07.240
<v Speaker 1>was the uncompromising, hard truth of God. So Jesus would

433
00:20:07.279 --> 00:20:11.599
<v Speaker 1>often express complete love and then here's the truth, and

434
00:20:11.319 --> 00:20:15.079
<v Speaker 1>uh and so and I love how you know you

435
00:20:15.079 --> 00:20:17.799
<v Speaker 1>could you can also say truth and grace, right, truth

436
00:20:17.839 --> 00:20:21.599
<v Speaker 1>and grace. And I always liked how Andy Stanley praised it.

437
00:20:21.680 --> 00:20:23.839
<v Speaker 1>He said, when you dumb you have to have truth

438
00:20:23.839 --> 00:20:24.200
<v Speaker 1>and grace.

439
00:20:24.640 --> 00:20:24.799
<v Speaker 2>Right.

440
00:20:24.880 --> 00:20:26.839
<v Speaker 3>So like John one seventeen.

441
00:20:27.119 --> 00:20:29.200
<v Speaker 1>Jesus said, Moses can't bring you the law, but I've

442
00:20:29.200 --> 00:20:30.519
<v Speaker 1>come to bring you truth and grace.

443
00:20:30.920 --> 00:20:33.680
<v Speaker 3>It brings both dynamics. And so when you the way Andy.

444
00:20:33.519 --> 00:20:36.200
<v Speaker 1>Stanley says it is, if you dumb down one, you

445
00:20:36.279 --> 00:20:38.839
<v Speaker 1>miss out on the other. So when you dumb down

446
00:20:38.880 --> 00:20:41.680
<v Speaker 1>truth and you say, well, I'm really a good person,

447
00:20:41.920 --> 00:20:44.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't need God that much as much as other

448
00:20:44.759 --> 00:20:47.519
<v Speaker 1>people to get into heaven. So you're dumbing down truth,

449
00:20:47.799 --> 00:20:49.480
<v Speaker 1>and what you're gonna do is you're gonna miss out

450
00:20:49.519 --> 00:20:52.319
<v Speaker 1>on all the grace that is required because because actually

451
00:20:52.359 --> 00:20:54.160
<v Speaker 1>the truth is, no matter how.

452
00:20:54.000 --> 00:20:55.839
<v Speaker 3>Good you are, you fall just as short of.

453
00:20:55.839 --> 00:20:57.160
<v Speaker 2>Heaven as everybody else you need.

454
00:20:57.200 --> 00:20:59.720
<v Speaker 3>And they say hard truth, right, so you know what

455
00:20:59.720 --> 00:21:00.200
<v Speaker 3>that means.

456
00:21:00.279 --> 00:21:02.119
<v Speaker 1>That means now you're in the position, once you receive

457
00:21:02.160 --> 00:21:04.440
<v Speaker 1>the hard truth, you're in the position to receive all

458
00:21:04.559 --> 00:21:06.160
<v Speaker 1>the grace that God has for you.

459
00:21:06.240 --> 00:21:06.519
<v Speaker 3>Right.

460
00:21:06.720 --> 00:21:08.960
<v Speaker 2>And so, well, that's a powerful statement that you made

461
00:21:09.000 --> 00:21:11.279
<v Speaker 2>right there. It doesn't matter how good you are. You

462
00:21:11.440 --> 00:21:13.640
<v Speaker 2>would you say it doesn't it matter how good you

463
00:21:13.720 --> 00:21:15.440
<v Speaker 2>are you're as short.

464
00:21:16.200 --> 00:21:18.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you fall just as short.

465
00:21:18.200 --> 00:21:20.759
<v Speaker 2>You fall just as short. Everybody else, yeah, everybody else.

466
00:21:21.440 --> 00:21:23.599
<v Speaker 2>Because we tend to measure ourselves by well, I didn't

467
00:21:23.599 --> 00:21:26.240
<v Speaker 2>do as many bad things as right, because we know

468
00:21:26.279 --> 00:21:28.079
<v Speaker 2>bad people exist on the planet, right, we read on

469
00:21:28.119 --> 00:21:30.880
<v Speaker 2>a correct yeah, Hitler right. I can't tell you. I

470
00:21:30.920 --> 00:21:33.119
<v Speaker 2>bet you. I've had a dozen times where somebody says,

471
00:21:34.160 --> 00:21:36.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm not perfect, but I'm not hitler. I've

472
00:21:36.200 --> 00:21:39.680
<v Speaker 2>had that phrase so many times. So my answer always is, well,

473
00:21:39.680 --> 00:21:41.319
<v Speaker 2>your mom must be so proud.

474
00:21:44.480 --> 00:21:48.119
<v Speaker 4>Right, if that's the threshold, right, the threshold of whether

475
00:21:48.160 --> 00:21:50.480
<v Speaker 4>I'm a good person a bad person is Hitler right,

476
00:21:50.519 --> 00:21:52.200
<v Speaker 4>that's how bad it is, right.

477
00:21:52.240 --> 00:21:54.960
<v Speaker 2>And so we tend to do that. We tend to go, well,

478
00:21:55.000 --> 00:21:57.960
<v Speaker 2>I know that worse people have existed, and it's really

479
00:21:58.000 --> 00:22:02.440
<v Speaker 2>surprising to relatively good people. It's surprising to find out

480
00:22:02.720 --> 00:22:05.319
<v Speaker 2>that we are in every bit as need of God's

481
00:22:05.400 --> 00:22:08.359
<v Speaker 2>grace as the worst human on the planet. That's right, right,

482
00:22:08.599 --> 00:22:11.839
<v Speaker 2>all of us need God's grace that much. And yeah,

483
00:22:12.240 --> 00:22:14.079
<v Speaker 2>it's just it's a funny thing. It's a surprising thing.

484
00:22:14.119 --> 00:22:15.200
<v Speaker 2>I think the Christians on that. Yeah.

485
00:22:15.200 --> 00:22:17.359
<v Speaker 1>And then and then one thing that you just quoted

486
00:22:17.440 --> 00:22:21.960
<v Speaker 1>last Sunday. Is that famous quote by Tim Keller. Oh yeah,

487
00:22:22.279 --> 00:22:25.680
<v Speaker 1>who's a former pastor and he's deceased, but he say,

488
00:22:25.720 --> 00:22:28.519
<v Speaker 1>he said, the definition of the Gospel is that you

489
00:22:28.559 --> 00:22:33.759
<v Speaker 1>are far worse off than you ever imagined. But the

490
00:22:33.799 --> 00:22:36.200
<v Speaker 1>good news is you are far more love than.

491
00:22:36.119 --> 00:22:38.200
<v Speaker 2>You ever dreamed, you ever dared to dream.

492
00:22:38.000 --> 00:22:40.880
<v Speaker 1>Ever dared to dream. Right, So it's just there's something

493
00:22:40.920 --> 00:22:43.960
<v Speaker 1>close to that. Yeah, But it's just it's realizing our

494
00:22:44.039 --> 00:22:48.240
<v Speaker 1>complete and utter depravity and then being in position then

495
00:22:48.319 --> 00:22:52.039
<v Speaker 1>to receive God's amazing love. And so all of that

496
00:22:52.200 --> 00:22:54.599
<v Speaker 1>we went down the rabbit hole of saying it's always

497
00:22:54.759 --> 00:22:58.400
<v Speaker 1>truth and love, which is why Jesus said, he said,

498
00:22:59.359 --> 00:23:01.640
<v Speaker 1>this is a brand new commandment that that I bring

499
00:23:01.720 --> 00:23:06.319
<v Speaker 1>you love one another. You've heard it said love your

500
00:23:06.599 --> 00:23:08.400
<v Speaker 1>friends and hate your enemies, but I tell you love

501
00:23:08.400 --> 00:23:11.640
<v Speaker 1>your enemies. And so he says, love one another, and

502
00:23:11.720 --> 00:23:14.400
<v Speaker 1>he says, this is how people will know you're my

503
00:23:14.480 --> 00:23:18.000
<v Speaker 1>disciples if you love. And so it's a good reminder

504
00:23:18.039 --> 00:23:20.319
<v Speaker 1>for all of us Christians, for those of us who

505
00:23:20.799 --> 00:23:24.720
<v Speaker 1>follow God, is that we could bring the hard truth

506
00:23:24.759 --> 00:23:28.119
<v Speaker 1>of God, but we have to know when to deliver

507
00:23:28.240 --> 00:23:29.799
<v Speaker 1>it and how to deliver it, and it has to

508
00:23:29.799 --> 00:23:30.519
<v Speaker 1>be delivered in love.

509
00:23:30.519 --> 00:23:34.279
<v Speaker 3>That's what Jesus say, is right. So hey, that looks

510
00:23:34.319 --> 00:23:34.880
<v Speaker 3>like our time.

511
00:23:35.160 --> 00:23:37.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I would just say that. One other thing that

512
00:23:37.680 --> 00:23:39.359
<v Speaker 2>I was just kind of reserving and I throw it

513
00:23:39.359 --> 00:23:43.599
<v Speaker 2>out there is the frustration that God seems to have

514
00:23:43.640 --> 00:23:46.720
<v Speaker 2>and that Elijah is bringing to him, is why are

515
00:23:46.799 --> 00:23:51.400
<v Speaker 2>you going for mystical solutions and information about the future.

516
00:23:51.640 --> 00:23:53.759
<v Speaker 2>Is there not a God in heaven? Right? Is there

517
00:23:53.759 --> 00:23:55.680
<v Speaker 2>not a God in Israel? You know what? You threw

518
00:23:55.720 --> 00:23:57.359
<v Speaker 2>off the God of Israel. And now you've got to

519
00:23:57.400 --> 00:24:01.200
<v Speaker 2>go to go find what the star to say, or

520
00:24:01.240 --> 00:24:03.680
<v Speaker 2>what some mystic says or somebody sees in a crystal

521
00:24:03.680 --> 00:24:07.400
<v Speaker 2>ball or some palm reader or some astrologist. That's what

522
00:24:07.440 --> 00:24:09.039
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna do. There's no God in heaven that can

523
00:24:09.079 --> 00:24:11.599
<v Speaker 2>provide answers for you. You've got to go and find

524
00:24:11.640 --> 00:24:16.039
<v Speaker 2>some mystical solution. And God responds very strongly to that

525
00:24:16.160 --> 00:24:19.000
<v Speaker 2>throughout the Bible oftentimes, and so I think it's a caution.

526
00:24:19.240 --> 00:24:21.359
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes Christians can kind of get caught up and playing

527
00:24:21.359 --> 00:24:25.599
<v Speaker 2>around with some of those things just as silly or whatever.

528
00:24:25.920 --> 00:24:28.519
<v Speaker 2>God doesn't consider it a silly thing. It's a big deal,

529
00:24:28.559 --> 00:24:31.000
<v Speaker 2>and it's almost always rooted in some kind of it's

530
00:24:31.000 --> 00:24:33.559
<v Speaker 2>a pathway towards evil, and in this situation, it was

531
00:24:33.559 --> 00:24:34.119
<v Speaker 2>Biales above.

532
00:24:34.319 --> 00:24:35.200
<v Speaker 3>So that's great.

533
00:24:35.400 --> 00:24:37.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So I just cautioned all of our listeners on

534
00:24:37.440 --> 00:24:38.240
<v Speaker 2>that one piece as well.

535
00:24:38.519 --> 00:24:40.079
<v Speaker 3>That's all right.

536
00:24:40.079 --> 00:24:41.799
<v Speaker 1>Well, that's our time and hopefully we will see you

537
00:24:41.839 --> 00:24:52.960
<v Speaker 1>on Monday on the Bible Gush