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we look back at this time, I think we will
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in the foothills of the singularity.

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Welcome to Primary Technology,

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the show about the tech news that matters.

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WWDC media invites went out. Plus they
announced some iOS

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27 accessibility features from Apple
Vision Pro to some more Apple
intelligence.

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We're going to get into that. Plus Google
IOs this week with a keynote.

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All the AI things. Google has a ton of
products.

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We're going to break it all down in the
show.

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Plex pricing changes, Gen Z still hates AI
and is booing it at commencements,

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Elon lost his case, and a ton more.

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Copilot Money, NordLayer, and you,

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the members who support us directly.

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I'm one of your hosts, Stephen Roble,

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as in joined, as always by Jason Aten.

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How's it going, Jason?

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It's pretty good. It's pretty good,

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Stephen.

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Pretty good, pretty good. How's your app
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How's your app in the thing? That's fun.

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It's doing really well, Steven.

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before we get started, I would like to
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Yeah.

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You left me one of my first reviews.

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Thank you very much. Reading reviews about
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is a very surreal thing. Thankfully,

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it's like a 4.8 star app right now.

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So it's technically doing about as good as
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That's good, that's good.

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which is great. A lot fewer reviews,

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but it's interesting how people use
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there's that and we talked in the pre-show
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to the pre-show and get an ad-free version
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the show notes you can listen to it all
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my movies on the side podcast saying it's
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50 reviews after eight years and I'm like,

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that's not my fault anyway

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But I just think it was interesting.

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there are also people who will leave you a
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this seems like an interesting app.

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I would use it if blah, blah, blah,

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blah, blah. And it's like, that's not a
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Right. Okay. Thanks for your service,

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You just said you didn't actually use it.

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I guess. I know,

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What are you doing? So anyway,

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that's the thing. But I'm awesome.

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it's been great. It's been super
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Lots of people have downloaded it and I
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That's very cool, very cool. All right,

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we got a ton of stuff. Google I.O.

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is gonna be a translation interpretation,

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a huge segment here, because we got to try
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the things they announced. One,

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the movie quote, today's quote was
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You know what I quoted.

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Yeah, I mean, that was Demisysabas at the
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singularity. I was like thinking it
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the mad scientist says at the end of like
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right? Like Dr. Frankenstein. By the way,

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when you think of Frankenstein,

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do you think of the doctor or do you think
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But that's not Frankenstein is the name of
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You think of the creature, that's not
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but yes, that was a full on quote from
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which just blew my mind. They also had a
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Last week I forgot to ask about the movie
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I said, they made us too smart,

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too quick, and too many. It is a movie
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it up after the fact when you didn't ask
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think. Well, maybe we're headed towards
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who knows? But anyway, I have some
exciting news about pins.

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Got to talk about. We have a couple
five-star review shout-outs.

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Oh, Shaughnessy from the USA, iPhone,

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non-dominant left-hand front pocket so he
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Your method. This is a great show,

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thank you for that. Gunt Cramps from the
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His review said, I've seen a bus once.

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I have my other show now, Top 5 Tech,

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which I do every Friday, and I highlighted
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And for some reason, my brain kept saying
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And I literally had to do like five takes
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I'm sorry, it's not Chloe, it is Cleo
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what does GIF stand for? Do you know?

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Uh-huh. And how do you say the G in
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the person who created the format says
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you say the animal with a really tall
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We did this, I literally said that last
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the word of the present that you give
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All right, thank you. Okay, a couple of
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We have some wonderful listeners of the
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to them out here at the top of the show.

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So real quick, this first one is a mood
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This is from Marvin, sent me an email.

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It's called Inner Pulse, one-time
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My wife actually uses apps like this to
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Really nicely designed, nice little graphs
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So check out Mood Tracker. We'll link that
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You can browse your library in different
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The Last FM integration. So that's a
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Wallet app that also has some shortcuts
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be playing around with pretty soon and so
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a budgeting app smart budget apps in the
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fun and I Yesterday continued my
boondoggle of sending pins around the
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I still have a whole bet look at all these
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I got all these pins and this medieval
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so I asked last week I'm trying we have a
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the polar bear to every continent well

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I'm pleased to announce we have five out
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We have people this is not one of the
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but we have Australia Hansa and I sent to
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There was our going we have Central
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Yes, you do need to say like that.

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Jason asked me what was you do And I'm
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a listener visiting Japan next month and
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be taking pictures of it around Japan and
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listeners in South Africa that emailed me
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Echeppo from South Africa and Andre from
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yeah, pins are heading that way too.

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South America and of course Antarctica.

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I'll get one to you. And then if you have
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doing the Drake passage and is gonna be
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you know, a scientist, family or friend
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I want it. I want the polar bear.

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my children, my sons and I had a really
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It wasn't that interesting. But yesterday
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well, but is it also a country?

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We've all agreed we're going leave the
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because honestly, my boys think the
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if you tried to take over because they are
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the Madagascar penguins

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are much more well equipped to survive
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that is true. Listen, I'm always
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The Chloe Abram video I linked in Top5Tech
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See, I did it again. Oh my, sorry.

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Cleo Abram. Her video is amazing because
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the lakes under the ice in Antarctica.

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And I don't want to spoil it, but her
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It's basically like national geographic
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in the 60s or whatever and It was a whole
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I'm always fascinated by it So let us know
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is going to Antarctica I will send you
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hand them out to the penguins.

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Don't don't make sure they don't stab
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but you hand them out to the penguins We'd
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All right media invites for dub dub has
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but this is when Apple actually makes
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June 8th with the platform say to the
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out I'm happy to report that I got an
invite and also sad to report Jason

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did not I'm sorry, Jason

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Yeah,

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somebody asked if I was gonna go as a
journalist or an app developer and

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I'm at this point just not gonna go.

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Well, because the app developer you had to
have applied a long time ago.

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Yeah You did the app developer

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So.

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and that's a lottery you're not guaranteed
even if you're a developer I know lots

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of people so Unfortunately, it will just
be one of us again At dub dub.

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I'm still holding on how I'll cross my
fingers next year one day We need

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Hmm.

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to record in person in the in their
podcast sweep

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I did, I did email them and I was like,

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do you know who I am? And they're like,

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they're like, they're like, no,

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Do you not? Google me!

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they're like, no, I don't have a clue who
you are.

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Leave us alone.

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Google me

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so I will be there in person I dig in an
invite and I'll be recording from

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the podcast studio and Jason will be
roaming again So I'll be you reporting

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all week the tagline for dub dub is coming
bright up and Everyone is trying

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to read the tea leaves that this little
animation in the Swift logo

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is maybe that's the new Siri Animation,

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we'll see we're all gonna know in like two
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I also think it's interesting ~

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We talk about this a little bit in the
next Mac power users,

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but Apple just, you know, they're just
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for a long time, Apple tried really,

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really hard to make machine learning the
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was machine learning and all this stuff
that Siri did was machine learning.

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And then they were like, screw it.

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We're just, everything's AI. Cause that's
what everybody calls it.

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Well, but for

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them, AI means Apple Intelligence.

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Well, yeah, but like they just use the
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the two letters AI now. And I think they
just let people interpret it how they
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You know what I mean?

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but I bet you that if you ask them,

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it means Apple Intelligence.

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You know what I'm gonna ask them when I'm
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Jason. I'm gonna say, hey, what does AI
mean in this newsroom article?

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What does it stand for? I'm just curious.

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They're gonna be like, what are you
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Now, iOS 27, actually, there's some
official features for accessibility that
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come out or announced, and we want to get
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are some clues there, I think,

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to what we'll see at Dub-Dub, but we have
to talk about Google I.O.

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Google I.O. is the huge event.

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As we record, it happened yesterday,

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and Google announced 1,000 things.

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1,000 things.

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Many of them do things like the other
things and and there's just a

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lot of things and so the quote from the
top of the episode is literally from

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the keynote. It closed the keynote and
they said when we look back at this time,

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I think we will realize that we were
standing in the foothills of the
singularity.

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That statement is wild.

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I don't know like.

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The singularity in astrophysics terms is
like what's in middle of a black hole

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and maybe the beginning of the universe.

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I don't know. But Google is using it to
refer to AGI,

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believe, artificial general intelligence.

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And they said that. They said that too.

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Yeah, ish. Yeah,

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AGI. Anyway.

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they keep, they're

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the only ones that are still saying it.

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which I thought was interesting.

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~ What's the presenter's name at the end?

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How do we his name? Yes, he was the one
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Demisysabas.

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AGI is coming. And so I think it's
interesting that OpenAI and Microsoft,

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they've now let that go by the wayside and
they're not really talking about

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AGI and it's not even part of their
agreement anymore.

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And Google's over here like, nah,

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it's here, bro. We're at the foothills of
the singularity.

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You

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It does sound like, if you say that more
with kind of like a maybe I'm high-esque,

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like a dumb and dumber.

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We're at the foothills of the singularity,

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bro. I think that fits better.

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They should have done it like that.

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mean, Foothills

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of the Singularity is definitely a Pink
Floyd album,

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right?

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That's pretty good. That is good album
name or maybe it's a band name.

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There was that quote and there was also
this quote,

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our mission, this is quoting from the
Google keynote,

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Dennis Isavas, is to reimagine the drug
discovery process with the goal

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of one day solving all disease.

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Google literally saying they're going to
solve all disease with AGI.

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We're back to big promises, Jason.

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This is like big.

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I said this to you beforehand and the
thing is looking at this entire list

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of all of the things that got announced
most of which

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are slightly different versions of the
same things that got announced

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and also last year same things right like
they just keep and Google

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Yes.

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is notorious for renaming things that
they've already announced.

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And so then you don't realize that,

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wait, is this a new thing? Or is this just
a new name for this other thing?

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Yeah.

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Or is it the other thing? And it's a
slightly new version of it.

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So they decided to change the name.

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Remember when Gemini used to be called
Bard?

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Like it's all very confusing. But looking
through this entire list,

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~ yeah.

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it is like, the thought that kept
occurring to me is,

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well, if anyone could pull off all of this
stuff,

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it's definitely Google.

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For one, they have all of the technology.

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They have Demis Thesabas, who is like the
godfather of AI,

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right? When you, if we're gonna,

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I think we're gonna talk about it later,

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but when you look through the
conversations that were happening that
were revealed

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during the Musk versus Altman trial,

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you realize that almost all of the early
conversations were about people terrified

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Mm.

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of Demis Thesabas because he was like,

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he was the guy. Everyone knew.

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and they just figured he was going to rule
it all.

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And now he got on stage today and said,

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I'm ruling it all. This is my kingdom.

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You are all just my pawns. But Google is
like the company you're like,

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Ha ha ha.

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definitely could pull this off.

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And also Google is a company that you're
like,

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they might forget about all of this
tomorrow.

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There is literally a website called Killed
by Google with a graveyard

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of all the things Google is saying.

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And a lot of the stuff Google announced,

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they're like coming this summer.

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And so it's like, okay, what? Okay,

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we'll see. So let's get into it.

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You

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mean, to be honest, we're having a little
fun here because it just feels like Google

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is a little high on their own supply.

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Maybe you could say it does feel like
there's a bit of anyway,

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yeah, that. But they've done some
interesting things.

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And because Google, like you're saying,

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has all the things like Google Docs to
search to everything.

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They can do some fun stuff. like Google
Docs Live is a feature that Sudharm Pichai

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showed up. And he's basically like,

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listen, you can talk at your phone and
because Google has your email and

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it has all your search and everything and
personal intelligence.

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They say, had this example where someone
was like,

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hey, I'm giving a talk at my high school
or whatever.

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So pull my resume from Google Docs,

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pull the email from the school from Gmail.

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And I want to talk about this and that and
this.

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Remind me to tell the story about how I
got into that and bold that

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and it'll just like create this Google Doc
with the whole outline and

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the tables and cool like I mean that that
is nice and that's something where Maybe

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Claude Cowart could do that today Like if
you gave it access to a document

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or a folder on your Mac and it had context
for whatever but I think

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the promise that Google is has espousing
is like well if you just like Google

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already knows it all

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So you can just add, you can just talk to
Google Docs and it'll make this

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doc for you. The quality of the doc and
the content always remains to be seen.

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That's kind of like the litmus test is
like,

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would I use this out of the box?

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How much editing does it take?

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But it's cool that it does it.

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It's also interesting that we're now at a
phase where Google has stopped trying

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to pretend like your data is yours and
it's sacred and secret.

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And they're literally just saying what we
all knew was true,

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which is, listen, we already know
everything about you.

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We have access to all of your information,

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all of your data and all of your files.

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So why don't you just let us do something
useful with it?

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Yeah, and I mean if it is useful and you
would use it all the time

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if you're having to make Presentations or
docs about stuff constantly like yeah,

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sure They also announced Google Omni and
that they have like

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13 different like generative tools like
there's Google flow There's Google pics

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we're gonna get into Google Omni and it
did feel like we're gonna talk

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a little bit about the Gen Z hate AI
because we had a great email from

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a listener who's Gen Z who graduated a
couple years ago,

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but it did feel like

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Such a juxtaposition between how people
are booing AI,

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an ex-Google CEO at a commencement talking
about AI,

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and Google in this keynote was like,

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you can generate anything from anything.

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Like that's literally what they said.

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Like you can generate anything.

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You can give Google Omni a photo,

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a video, a prompt, and it can make
whatever you want.

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It can make videos, images, audio,

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music. And so they're just full on being
like,

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generate everything.

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and even putting these tools into things
like YouTube so creators can make shorts,

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just have AI do it. And it's like,

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~ okay, I guess.

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I mean, the idea would be you could take a
video of this keynote or

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of a person just standing up and giving a
talk.

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could video yourself giving a speech and
then you could feed it into Omni

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and be like, make me the keynote to go
with this.

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Like really.

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Right and it

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yeah, and they showed like lots of
manipulation type things of like they're

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a guy walking along a wall and then they
made it look like a sci-fi thing

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and then made it look like change the
scene and like I guess they're going after

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Filmmakers or maybe like independent video
type businesses who don't have

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the budget to do that With visual effects
and like the expensive way

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and so maybe you just have AI do it if
it's good enough,

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okay I guess I don't know Yeah

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I don't know either. But I don't know

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if they know either. I don't know that
they know who they're going after.

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Right.

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think it's like technology cool.

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Is it David Pierce who's like,

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this a thing? Just put it all out there.

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Is this a thing?

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But I do, I also think there are a lot of
people generating stuff with it.

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I mean, I see so much stuff on social
media now where it's like,

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is this, this is AI. This is, this is AI.

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You know, it's just like real after real.

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things that I even have to, like I get my
in-laws and other people like send

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me stuff and they ask me like,

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is this real? Is this real? I'm like,

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no, it's not real. Which to that point,

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there was a large portion of the Google
IOK where they talked about C2PA tagging.

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And they basically said everything
generated with AI from Google's tools will

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be tagged. And so there's going to be
C2PA.

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And you can even see the data that it was
captured with X.

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So if you took a video from your Google
Pixel phone,

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it'll say this video was taken on Google
Pixel and then edited with Google Omni,

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or it was manipulated with this.

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And so they're also rolling that out to
Google Search and Chrome at large.

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And they even got partners, OpenAI have
agreed to play nice,

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Cacao and 11 Labs to say this was
generated,

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like they're all gonna tag and label their
stuff,

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which I think is good, like that's a
positive move.

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00:19:30,558 --> 00:19:34,039
More of these players are going to make it
clear when their stuff is tagged.

474
00:19:34,039 --> 00:19:36,320
And you'll be able to, I thought this was
cool,

475
00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:40,481
ask Chrome, is this AI? So if you see a
post,

476
00:19:40,481 --> 00:19:42,042
you're browsing the web in Chrome,

477
00:19:42,042 --> 00:19:43,983
or you come across an image or video,

478
00:19:43,983 --> 00:19:46,214
you can literally right click and just
say,

479
00:19:46,214 --> 00:19:47,214
is this AI?

480
00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:50,642
And it will tell you this was generated
either by Google or by OpenAI.

481
00:19:50,642 --> 00:19:54,922
And whether that metadata carries through
the pipeline,

482
00:19:54,922 --> 00:19:56,676
know, if someone generates something with
Google Omni,

483
00:19:56,676 --> 00:19:59,709
brings it into Premiere, exports it from a
media encoder,

484
00:19:59,709 --> 00:20:02,260
and then, I don't know if you can strip
that data,

485
00:20:02,260 --> 00:20:04,152
I don't know the technical side well
enough,

486
00:20:04,152 --> 00:20:06,994
hopefully it stays through that whole
process.

487
00:20:06,994 --> 00:20:10,216
But I do think that was a positive move to
do that.

488
00:20:09,794 --> 00:20:10,794
I mean,

489
00:20:10,305 --> 00:20:13,087
all you literally have to do is screen
record a video,

490
00:20:13,087 --> 00:20:16,870
like make a video a video or screenshot a
photo.

491
00:20:14,212 --> 00:20:17,532
Hmm. That's...

492
00:20:16,870 --> 00:20:19,772
Like this is nothing. This is literally
nothing.

493
00:20:17,532 --> 00:20:19,176
That's a good point. That's good point.

494
00:20:19,772 --> 00:20:21,814
Also, the only place where this matters.

495
00:20:21,814 --> 00:20:23,255
I shouldn't say it's literally nothing.

496
00:20:23,255 --> 00:20:25,196
It is slightly more than nothing,

497
00:20:25,196 --> 00:20:28,099
but it is not a meaningful thing at this
point.

498
00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:26,560
Okay, thank you.

499
00:20:28,099 --> 00:20:32,662
This is it. This is mostly the AI
companies trying to.

500
00:20:32,662 --> 00:20:36,426
What is it? What is the phrase like
greenwashing?

501
00:20:36,426 --> 00:20:39,298
Right. This is essentially greenwashing AI
where it's like

502
00:20:39,844 --> 00:20:43,746
~ Yes, we pollute things, but also we buy
credits for carbon,

503
00:20:43,746 --> 00:20:46,927
whatever. like, so what this is
essentially doing is we've created

504
00:20:44,444 --> 00:20:45,444
~

505
00:20:46,927 --> 00:20:50,208
a standard so that we'll be able to
identify fake content so that

506
00:20:50,288 --> 00:20:54,530
the tools we're making so that everyone
can make fake content are fine.

507
00:20:53,732 --> 00:20:54,732
Hmm.

508
00:20:54,530 --> 00:20:58,452
Or you could maybe just not make those
tools that are going to cause

509
00:20:58,452 --> 00:21:01,093
a huge problem down the road. Because
here's the scenario.

510
00:21:01,093 --> 00:21:04,094
The only scenario where this matters is is
meta onboard.

511
00:21:04,094 --> 00:21:09,436
Because what needs to happen is every time
you upload a video,

512
00:21:05,048 --> 00:21:06,048
That's true.

513
00:21:09,688 --> 00:21:14,452
that is tagged in this way, a giant red
key line needs to appear around

514
00:21:14,452 --> 00:21:17,454
the video and a watermark needs to say,

515
00:21:17,454 --> 00:21:21,408
not real, not real, because you just
described the conversations

516
00:21:21,408 --> 00:21:22,659
you have with people wanting to know,

517
00:21:22,659 --> 00:21:27,252
is this real? And they're not going to
right click in Chrome to find

518
00:21:27,252 --> 00:21:29,884
out who was taken out of Pixel and
whatever.

519
00:21:29,884 --> 00:21:34,008
That's the only scenario where this
matters is will Meta adopt this

520
00:21:34,008 --> 00:21:35,329
and will Meta make it very clear?

521
00:21:35,329 --> 00:21:39,032
And I promise you they won't because the
single most useful thing to Meta right now

522
00:21:36,771 --> 00:21:37,771
Yeah, they won't.

523
00:21:39,469 --> 00:21:43,236
is millions and millions of people
generating endless amounts of fake content

524
00:21:43,236 --> 00:21:45,080
to put on there that'll keep people
engaged.

525
00:21:46,274 --> 00:21:51,407
That is true. I was happy to read from our
listeners that they also think instance

526
00:21:51,507 --> 00:21:55,709
is stupid. The meta feature. It's so dumb.

527
00:21:53,471 --> 00:21:54,721
Absolutely moronic.

528
00:21:55,709 --> 00:21:58,971
I guess that is a point.

529
00:21:58,971 --> 00:22:05,394
Like whether the AI disclosure is
proactive versus upon request,

530
00:22:05,394 --> 00:22:08,696
I think does make a big difference because
if someone is scrolling reels,

531
00:22:08,696 --> 00:22:12,148
they're not going to like tap and hold and
say,

532
00:22:12,148 --> 00:22:15,340
is this AI? And then wait for it to think
about it and then look at it like.

533
00:22:15,992 --> 00:22:18,573
That's not going to happen. if,

534
00:22:18,573 --> 00:22:21,254
and TikTok I think is the only platform
that allows,

535
00:22:21,254 --> 00:22:24,516
has this, there is like a slider in the
TikTok settings for like how much

536
00:22:24,516 --> 00:22:28,057
AI content you want. And you can literally
turn that slider down.

537
00:22:28,057 --> 00:22:31,889
It doesn't reveal what's AI. It's just
saying you can have less of it.

538
00:22:31,889 --> 00:22:34,940
You can't have none. You can't move that
slider all the way to zero,

539
00:22:34,940 --> 00:22:37,602
but you can, you know, choose the amount
of AI.

540
00:22:37,602 --> 00:22:41,003
If this tagging can then lead into that,

541
00:22:41,003 --> 00:22:43,134
but it is a setting you have to manage
anyway.

542
00:22:44,196 --> 00:22:49,430
~ We'll see. We're still a long way away
from whether tagging and all of this

543
00:22:49,430 --> 00:22:51,561
has a meaningful effect. I did look up
greenwashing,

544
00:22:51,561 --> 00:22:54,524
by the way. Quoting from Google AI
Overview,

545
00:22:54,524 --> 00:22:58,346
greenwashing is the deceptive marketing
practice of presenting a company product

546
00:22:58,346 --> 00:23:01,549
or service as more environmentally
friendly or sustainable than it truly is.

547
00:23:01,549 --> 00:23:05,732
Greenwashing. That's it.

548
00:23:01,752 --> 00:23:04,838
Yeah, which is that's the I think that
fits pretty well.

549
00:23:04,838 --> 00:23:05,838
Right.

550
00:23:05,961 --> 00:23:08,987
This is AI slap washing. Basically,

551
00:23:08,987 --> 00:23:11,072
it's like, yeah.

552
00:23:09,302 --> 00:23:10,593
there it is. Yeah, stop watching.

553
00:23:10,593 --> 00:23:11,593
Yeah,

554
00:23:11,393 --> 00:23:14,494
okay, so they also announced Google Gemini
3.5 flash,

555
00:23:14,494 --> 00:23:17,155
which is better than everything It's
better than the current

556
00:23:17,155 --> 00:23:21,286
pro versions that's available I think in
the Gemini app and web and it'll

557
00:23:21,286 --> 00:23:25,237
be rolling out More to more people soon
even on the free tier.

558
00:23:25,237 --> 00:23:28,395
So that's that's ~ Anti-gravity 2.0,

559
00:23:28,395 --> 00:23:32,499
which is so many names, but Google
anti-gravity is like the developer
platform.

560
00:23:32,499 --> 00:23:35,660
And so they're gonna have nicer desktop
app

561
00:23:36,116 --> 00:23:39,829
Agent first that was one thing I got from
this keynote is like agent just that like

562
00:23:39,829 --> 00:23:43,191
everything agent It's all agents like
Google said there's gonna be agents

563
00:23:43,191 --> 00:23:47,174
and search there's agents and anti-gravity
Gemini spark is literally

564
00:23:47,174 --> 00:23:49,786
a personal AI agent which we're gonna get
to but like everything's an agent

565
00:23:49,786 --> 00:23:54,140
and so anti-gravity also agent first I
Well,

566
00:23:54,140 --> 00:23:57,142
I guess what that means is I don't know
that means but I guess means like

567
00:23:57,142 --> 00:24:00,945
you just talk to the agent and then they
he does things They they do things.

568
00:23:59,362 --> 00:24:01,453
Well, there you

569
00:24:00,945 --> 00:24:01,945
Excuse me

570
00:24:01,453 --> 00:24:06,035
go. Yeah. And I guess to try to just parse
this out for people,

571
00:24:06,035 --> 00:24:08,316
right? Gemini, we all know what the models
are.

572
00:24:08,316 --> 00:24:13,978
Gemini, the Gemini 3.5 Flash is supposed
to be faster than Gemini

573
00:24:13,978 --> 00:24:16,919
3.1 Pro or whatever. And it's way more
efficient.

574
00:24:15,415 --> 00:24:17,479
right. Yeah.

575
00:24:16,919 --> 00:24:20,991
They made the comment about like saving
you billions of dollars.

576
00:24:20,991 --> 00:24:24,903
I'm like, you're not going to save me
billions of dollars because

577
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:26,943
I don't have billions of dollars to save.

578
00:24:25,163 --> 00:24:26,954
I don't have billions of dollars to save,

579
00:24:26,943 --> 00:24:28,096
Exactly,

580
00:24:26,954 --> 00:24:27,954
right?

581
00:24:28,004 --> 00:24:29,004
But okay,

582
00:24:28,096 --> 00:24:29,096
exactly.

583
00:24:29,044 --> 00:24:32,184
cool, that's great. You're trying to
explain this.

584
00:24:32,184 --> 00:24:37,224
Anti-gravity is sort of the equivalent of
like codex or quad code-ish sort of,

585
00:24:37,224 --> 00:24:41,764
right? But where it's focused on spinning
up agents that will then do this stuff

586
00:24:41,764 --> 00:24:45,464
for you and then Spark, which you're gonna
get to is kind of like cowork-ish type

587
00:24:45,408 --> 00:24:46,526
Yeah, yeah.

588
00:24:45,464 --> 00:24:50,284
thing. And so it's hard because an
anti-gravity is actually not new.

589
00:24:50,284 --> 00:24:52,184
They announced this last year.

590
00:24:52,184 --> 00:24:55,504
They've made it clear that this is version
2.0,

591
00:24:55,504 --> 00:24:57,544
so it's more agent-y.

592
00:24:56,855 --> 00:24:57,855
This is literally,

593
00:24:57,626 --> 00:25:01,180
they built the Gemini Mac app using
anti-gravity internally.

594
00:25:01,180 --> 00:25:03,713
So like, there's that.

595
00:25:02,632 --> 00:25:03,753
Yes. And

596
00:25:03,913 --> 00:25:08,054
the idea is it's like a standalone desktop
application built around orchestrating

597
00:25:08,054 --> 00:25:10,575
agents. And the thing about agents is,

598
00:25:10,575 --> 00:25:15,237
you know, I was, I obviously have an app
in the app store.

599
00:25:14,893 --> 00:25:15,893
You know, yeah.

600
00:25:15,237 --> 00:25:16,697
You can download it. It's called
Contextly.

601
00:25:16,697 --> 00:25:17,978
I'd love it if you do that. But anyway,

602
00:25:17,978 --> 00:25:20,999
I, I wanted to make a change to something.

603
00:25:18,626 --> 00:25:19,626
Link below.

604
00:25:20,999 --> 00:25:24,200
And so I typed it into cloud code and it's
like,

605
00:25:24,719 --> 00:25:25,719
Great, here's what I'm gonna do.

606
00:25:25,679 --> 00:25:27,450
Agent one is gonna do this, agent two is
gonna do,

607
00:25:27,450 --> 00:25:28,982
I'm like, who are these agents?

608
00:25:28,982 --> 00:25:31,914
Are you sending in ninjas to like fix part
of my code?

609
00:25:31,437 --> 00:25:32,437
That's right, yes.

610
00:25:31,914 --> 00:25:35,816
So most of the time we don't even think
about that.

611
00:25:35,816 --> 00:25:38,818
Now you could also create agents like
people are doing,

612
00:25:38,818 --> 00:25:43,181
like OpenClaw or whatever. You can set
these things up to be running all the
time.

613
00:25:43,181 --> 00:25:45,953
for most, so agent orchestration is,

614
00:25:45,953 --> 00:25:47,854
don't think a consumer feature is what I'm
trying to say.

615
00:25:48,607 --> 00:25:52,370
No, no, no it is yeah, and that's actually
what a like perplexed computer talks

616
00:25:52,370 --> 00:25:55,683
about doing is like we're gonna
orchestrate all the models and agents
whatever

617
00:25:55,683 --> 00:25:58,745
so that's if you're a developer I think
Gemini spark is one of

618
00:25:58,745 --> 00:26:01,798
the more interesting things which It's
always on it.

619
00:26:01,798 --> 00:26:05,251
It's hard to parse like during the keynote
like where does this live?

620
00:26:05,251 --> 00:26:09,194
Like does this live in the Gemini app is
this like a different app is this

621
00:26:09,194 --> 00:26:15,740
on the web and so unclear but Gemini spark
is Kind of like the Claude co-work like

622
00:26:15,740 --> 00:26:17,431
you were saying of Google

623
00:26:17,869 --> 00:26:20,782
So it is a quote unquote personal AI
agent,

624
00:26:20,782 --> 00:26:25,246
takes actions on your behalf, but the big
difference is it runs

625
00:26:25,306 --> 00:26:30,751
on virtual machines 24 seven. And so it's
not dependent on your computer being

626
00:26:30,951 --> 00:26:33,353
on and active to run your task.

627
00:26:33,353 --> 00:26:36,206
Even like Sundar Parchai said from the
stage,

628
00:26:36,206 --> 00:26:37,677
like you can close your laptop,

629
00:26:37,677 --> 00:26:39,829
which I've been seeing memes all over of
like.

630
00:26:39,486 --> 00:26:40,486
That was

631
00:26:39,906 --> 00:26:43,814
a direct like he speaking to the people
who are standing on the sidelines

632
00:26:43,814 --> 00:26:46,670
of the kids soccer games with their
laptops open because their agents are
running

633
00:26:45,661 --> 00:26:46,661
Yes.

634
00:26:47,474 --> 00:26:51,980
Exactly. I've even seen like accessories
now where you put it in the USB port

635
00:26:51,980 --> 00:26:55,445
or the HDMI port of your laptop to like
you so you can close the lid

636
00:26:55,445 --> 00:26:58,950
but the laptop stays on and it's because
people want their agents like doing stuff

637
00:26:58,950 --> 00:26:59,950
and so

638
00:26:59,397 --> 00:27:02,089
There's nothing your agents are doing that
is important enough that

639
00:27:02,089 --> 00:27:04,061
you can't just close your laptop every
once in a while.

640
00:27:04,061 --> 00:27:05,563
Like seriously, what are they doing?

641
00:27:05,431 --> 00:27:07,823
Yeah. They're my coding. Coding,

642
00:27:05,563 --> 00:27:10,818
Are they like, are they, you so what it'll
just pick up when you open the thing.

643
00:27:07,823 --> 00:27:08,823
I guess.

644
00:27:11,389 --> 00:27:13,651
I know, but it is nice to say,

645
00:27:13,651 --> 00:27:15,343
like, I don't even have to think about
that.

646
00:27:15,343 --> 00:27:17,745
It all happens in the cloud. But of
course,

647
00:27:17,745 --> 00:27:20,087
whatever the agent is working on also has
to be in the cloud.

648
00:27:20,087 --> 00:27:23,320
And I think that is a fundamental shift of
like,

649
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:24,951
you know, Claude, co-work on my Mac.

650
00:27:24,951 --> 00:27:29,415
My Mac has to be on because it's working
on things on my Mac locally.

651
00:27:29,415 --> 00:27:33,069
And like Claude, you know, it's
communicating to the Claude servers cloud,

652
00:27:33,069 --> 00:27:36,422
but like it's doing stuff with the files
on my computer or whatever,

653
00:27:36,422 --> 00:27:37,763
using some MCP server.

654
00:27:38,232 --> 00:27:41,655
But Google is very much taking the
position of like everything happens in the
cloud.

655
00:27:41,655 --> 00:27:43,866
And so when you use Gemini Spark,

656
00:27:43,866 --> 00:27:46,478
like it's doing stuff up there and then
you can come back to it,

657
00:27:46,478 --> 00:27:50,862
whatever. And I did think it was
interesting to use an iPhone for the spark
demo,

658
00:27:50,862 --> 00:27:52,663
which obviously everything's on purpose,

659
00:27:52,663 --> 00:27:54,144
but like I thought that was interesting.

660
00:27:54,144 --> 00:28:00,009
~ and it's also going to be coming to like
Chrome and basically they said Chrome

661
00:28:00,009 --> 00:28:03,912
will be an AI browser, which it had AI
features already,

662
00:28:03,912 --> 00:28:07,314
but I think this is another shot at like
perplexity comment or chat GPT Atlas,

663
00:28:07,314 --> 00:28:08,314
which I haven't heard.

664
00:28:08,373 --> 00:28:10,524
anything about Atlas in like the last
three months,

665
00:28:10,524 --> 00:28:15,767
but that Chrome will have Spark and then
it will just be able to do stuff for you.

666
00:28:15,767 --> 00:28:21,510
And then Android Halo, which is the agents
will be on your phone.

667
00:28:21,510 --> 00:28:26,193
So Spark is like Gemini agents in the
cloud doing stuff up there.

668
00:28:26,193 --> 00:28:28,284
And then Android Halo, if you have an
Android device,

669
00:28:28,284 --> 00:28:30,595
is going to be agents doing stuff on your
phone,

670
00:28:30,595 --> 00:28:33,697
which is different than Gemini task
automation,

671
00:28:33,697 --> 00:28:36,359
which is also Gemini doing stuff on your
phone.

672
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:37,359
So.

673
00:28:37,421 --> 00:28:38,823
Hopefully that's clear to everybody.

674
00:28:37,987 --> 00:28:39,843
Totally clear. Also,

675
00:28:38,823 --> 00:28:39,823
Hopefully that's clear.

676
00:28:39,843 --> 00:28:43,022
definitely not letting agents do things on
my phone.

677
00:28:43,939 --> 00:28:47,111
Yeah, mean, I'll order Starbucks for you
if it could do it well.

678
00:28:47,745 --> 00:28:49,687
Okay, let's talk about this for one
second,

679
00:28:49,687 --> 00:28:54,141
Steven. No, no, no, like I wanna just poke
at the premise here.

680
00:28:51,266 --> 00:28:52,266
I don't, I don't.

681
00:28:54,141 --> 00:28:57,944
How hard is it to order Starbucks?

682
00:28:57,944 --> 00:29:00,026
I mean, you can do it with shortcuts.

683
00:29:00,026 --> 00:29:05,121
Also, you could do it by opening the app
and tapping on reorder my last thing.

684
00:29:00,107 --> 00:29:01,107
You can do it with shortcuts.

685
00:29:05,121 --> 00:29:10,136
I don't understand, like how complicated
have people's lives,

686
00:29:08,995 --> 00:29:09,995
I'll see you right now.

687
00:29:10,136 --> 00:29:13,419
hold on, how complicated have people's
lives gone?

688
00:29:13,859 --> 00:29:17,099
I don't believe that these are even close
to the use cases.

689
00:29:17,099 --> 00:29:20,459
They keep talking. Everyone wants to talk
about I actually heard on

690
00:29:20,459 --> 00:29:23,499
the recap from the verge. Yeah,

691
00:29:23,499 --> 00:29:25,459
they talked about you can use it to plan
an event like your wedding.

692
00:29:25,459 --> 00:29:29,359
I'm like, No, no, you won't. You will not
use an agent to plan your wedding.

693
00:29:29,359 --> 00:29:32,439
Right? This is like self driving cars.

694
00:29:30,121 --> 00:29:31,121
No you won't.

695
00:29:32,439 --> 00:29:34,639
Some people actually like to drive cars.

696
00:29:36,139 --> 00:29:40,241
So here's the scenario and I actually did
a video I'll put in the show notes right

697
00:29:40,601 --> 00:29:44,223
run Gemini task automation on a Samsung
Galaxy s26 which you could do right

698
00:29:44,223 --> 00:29:49,255
now with Starbucks door- and uber I
believe Starbucks is

699
00:29:49,255 --> 00:29:53,217
the most useful I find it but the scenario
that I think it would

700
00:29:53,217 --> 00:29:56,919
be useful for something like me is if we
ever do a road trip We're gonna

701
00:29:56,919 --> 00:30:00,620
hit a Starbucks somewhere and if I'm
driving like yes,

702
00:30:00,620 --> 00:30:01,901
I can hand my phone to my wife,

703
00:30:01,901 --> 00:30:02,901
which I've done

704
00:30:01,984 --> 00:30:02,984
Hand your

705
00:30:02,601 --> 00:30:03,756
phone to your wife.

706
00:30:04,227 --> 00:30:06,747
Yes, could do it. Sometimes she might be
asleep.

707
00:30:06,747 --> 00:30:08,607
Like this literally happened on the way
back from the beach yesterday.

708
00:30:08,607 --> 00:30:11,567
She was asleep. She didn't want anything
from Starbucks.

709
00:30:11,567 --> 00:30:15,807
The kids are to get stuff. To be able to
just talk to the phone and

710
00:30:15,807 --> 00:30:20,147
get all the orders with the customizations
right so I don't have to look

711
00:30:20,147 --> 00:30:22,107
at the phone and I can then just order it.

712
00:30:22,107 --> 00:30:24,127
That's one scenario where it's like,

713
00:30:24,127 --> 00:30:27,447
okay, there's some value there.

714
00:30:27,447 --> 00:30:31,327
Now, yes, it is slow. I would never sit at
home.

715
00:30:31,907 --> 00:30:34,927
Do that like it would be much faster for
me to tap around on the

716
00:30:34,927 --> 00:30:39,207
app personally But there might be
scenarios if you're walking down the
street.

717
00:30:39,207 --> 00:30:42,247
No, you're not gonna do that walking on
the street in New York City You're gonna

718
00:30:42,247 --> 00:30:43,647
you're just gonna tap on the app.

719
00:30:43,647 --> 00:30:45,487
So driving

720
00:30:44,481 --> 00:30:45,481
Yeah, I just think

721
00:30:45,611 --> 00:30:48,052
I think that in less it is fast.

722
00:30:48,052 --> 00:30:51,183
The shortcut thing is the only good option
at this point because it's actually

723
00:30:51,183 --> 00:30:54,774
faster. Right. It's just because you can
set it up and be like,

724
00:30:51,979 --> 00:30:53,462
It is fast. It is fast.

725
00:30:54,774 --> 00:30:57,815
make a shortcut of my favorite order and
you just run the shortcut and

726
00:30:57,815 --> 00:31:00,226
it just then you show up and there's a
drink waiting for you.

727
00:31:00,226 --> 00:31:03,707
Right. That's different than did it get
did it hear me?

728
00:31:03,707 --> 00:31:06,018
Is it doing it? Like, I just don't think
that I don't know.

729
00:31:06,018 --> 00:31:08,129
I don't feel like this is a problem that
actually needs to be solved.

730
00:31:08,129 --> 00:31:09,149
It just makes a good demo.

731
00:31:10,071 --> 00:31:12,733
It makes a good demo. I mean, if it
expands,

732
00:31:12,733 --> 00:31:14,994
you right now it's only in three apps.

733
00:31:14,994 --> 00:31:17,836
If we're to expand and be able to do other
things,

734
00:31:17,836 --> 00:31:20,098
like if you could tell it, you know,

735
00:31:20,098 --> 00:31:23,420
create a project in Asana and create these
tasks,

736
00:31:23,420 --> 00:31:27,343
assign it to these people. Like if you
could just kind of stream of
consciousness,

737
00:31:27,343 --> 00:31:30,125
talk to your phone and it take all those
actions on your behalf

738
00:31:30,125 --> 00:31:33,187
and it's actually accurate. So when you
get to the office,

739
00:31:33,187 --> 00:31:36,569
you then don't have to like go through all
that tedious work

740
00:31:36,569 --> 00:31:37,800
of creating the projects and the tasks,

741
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:38,800
whatever, like, it's just done.

742
00:31:38,651 --> 00:31:39,651
Maybe.

743
00:31:39,491 --> 00:31:40,491
Maybe that's useful.

744
00:31:39,529 --> 00:31:40,529
And it's

745
00:31:40,141 --> 00:31:43,890
actually accurate. That's a really
important thing you just glazed right
past.

746
00:31:43,623 --> 00:31:44,623
But I

747
00:31:44,203 --> 00:31:46,045
will say, say, it's definitely a kit.

748
00:31:46,045 --> 00:31:48,487
Whenever I did a custom Starbucks order,

749
00:31:48,487 --> 00:31:51,070
if it could get those right, with Stevia
packets,

750
00:31:51,070 --> 00:31:52,992
upside down caramel macchiato,

751
00:31:52,992 --> 00:31:55,304
like it got all of that. And that's a lot
of little drop downs,

752
00:31:55,304 --> 00:31:56,795
it's got a click. I'm just saying.

753
00:31:56,795 --> 00:31:59,188
It did all that. Okay.

754
00:31:57,363 --> 00:31:58,604
Here's, just figured

755
00:31:59,984 --> 00:32:05,436
it out. In 2007, Steve Jobs got up on a
stage and he introduced

756
00:32:01,782 --> 00:32:02,782
Yeah.

757
00:32:04,684 --> 00:32:06,525
He did. Yeah.

758
00:32:05,436 --> 00:32:08,688
the iPhone and then he pranked called the
Starbucks.

759
00:32:08,688 --> 00:32:11,469
He said, I'd like to order 4,000 lattes.

760
00:32:11,469 --> 00:32:15,531
Ha, just kidding. Nevermind. And he hung
up the phone and Google's like,

761
00:32:13,900 --> 00:32:14,900
That's right.

762
00:32:15,531 --> 00:32:21,173
what if an agent pranked called Starbucks
for you and ordered 4,000 lattes

763
00:32:20,002 --> 00:32:21,002
~

764
00:32:21,313 --> 00:32:23,914
on your behalf? You just shout at the
phone.

765
00:32:23,914 --> 00:32:25,235
You don't even, it's like,

766
00:32:25,473 --> 00:32:26,473
Not as

767
00:32:25,741 --> 00:32:26,741
fun.

768
00:32:26,047 --> 00:32:30,018
Steve Jobs is living rent free in all of
these tech executives heads.

769
00:32:30,572 --> 00:32:31,572
You know, that's a good point.

770
00:32:31,522 --> 00:32:34,474
Yeah, probably. All right. Well,

771
00:32:34,474 --> 00:32:36,025
there's much other stuff. Last thing,

772
00:32:36,025 --> 00:32:39,447
and then we're going to get to like
universal cart and more Gemini stuff.

773
00:32:39,447 --> 00:32:43,629
Google talked about a seamless AI search
experience.

774
00:32:43,629 --> 00:32:48,552
So again, like the whole theme of the
keynote was just injecting AI into

775
00:32:48,652 --> 00:32:50,913
all the things as much as possible.

776
00:32:50,913 --> 00:32:56,696
And so for Google search, they're going to
do search agents.

777
00:32:56,696 --> 00:32:58,937
So not only can Google search,

778
00:32:58,937 --> 00:32:59,978
like if you search for something,

779
00:32:59,978 --> 00:33:00,978
will

780
00:33:00,650 --> 00:33:03,211
send agents out there and do stuff for
you.

781
00:33:03,211 --> 00:33:05,522
And you can check for updates,

782
00:33:05,522 --> 00:33:06,623
which I think is a useful task.

783
00:33:06,623 --> 00:33:09,434
This would be like scheduled tasks in
Claude or whatever.

784
00:33:09,434 --> 00:33:15,376
You could say, check the availability of
movie tickets for Odyssey from this
theater

785
00:33:16,796 --> 00:33:19,358
for every hour and let me know when
there's some available.

786
00:33:19,358 --> 00:33:23,480
So it can do those kind of repeated
automated tasks because it lives in the
cloud.

787
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:29,102
That's cool. And then they even said
they're putting anti-gravity in search.

788
00:33:29,751 --> 00:33:30,791
because they want you to be able to,

789
00:33:30,791 --> 00:33:32,572
if you have a question about black holes,

790
00:33:32,572 --> 00:33:34,992
to, when you ask the question,

791
00:33:34,992 --> 00:33:40,414
Anti-Gravity and Google search will
literally build visuals for you,

792
00:33:40,414 --> 00:33:44,675
like in real time. And so the demo that
they give is like,

793
00:33:44,675 --> 00:33:47,395
what happens if two black holes like
circle each other?

794
00:33:47,395 --> 00:33:51,756
And there's literally an interactive
visual where you can adjust

795
00:33:51,756 --> 00:33:54,037
the slider for separation and for mass.

796
00:33:54,037 --> 00:33:57,958
And it is showing you this animation of
these two black holes around each other
with

797
00:33:57,958 --> 00:33:58,958
an explanation.

798
00:33:59,188 --> 00:34:01,619
Again, I will say, that's kind of cool.

799
00:34:01,619 --> 00:34:05,860
Like, when my kids have a question about
time and I'm ready to give

800
00:34:05,860 --> 00:34:07,761
a really long-winded answer that they
don't care about,

801
00:34:07,761 --> 00:34:10,822
I can do this and like show a visual right
away.

802
00:34:10,314 --> 00:34:11,915
Hey, just Google it, kids.

803
00:34:10,822 --> 00:34:14,543
Well, let's Google it together.

804
00:34:14,543 --> 00:34:16,654
I'm gonna turn on screen mirroring,

805
00:34:16,654 --> 00:34:18,025
we'll throw it up on the Apple TV,

806
00:34:18,025 --> 00:34:19,035
and we'll have it do that. Like,

807
00:34:19,035 --> 00:34:22,126
that is, that's cool. Now,

808
00:34:23,038 --> 00:34:26,171
Most of the time, the examples that you
see from these kind of AI search stuff

809
00:34:26,171 --> 00:34:27,452
is like black holes for some reason.

810
00:34:27,452 --> 00:34:29,914
I feel like black holes is like a common
trope of like,

811
00:34:29,914 --> 00:34:31,765
show me how black hole works. You know,

812
00:34:31,765 --> 00:34:34,848
how that goes to like, how do I make a
chicken parmesan?

813
00:34:34,848 --> 00:34:39,291
I'm not sure what kind of real-time slider
visualization is gonna use like

814
00:34:39,291 --> 00:34:41,654
~ a breadcrumb and cheese slider.

815
00:34:41,654 --> 00:34:46,017
Like what happens when I drag that cheese
slider all the way to the right?

816
00:34:42,337 --> 00:34:43,337
Right?

817
00:34:46,017 --> 00:34:47,058
I'm not sure what it does there.

818
00:34:47,058 --> 00:34:50,861
But cool idea, but it's just AI and
everything.

819
00:34:50,861 --> 00:34:51,861
AI is everything.

820
00:34:51,874 --> 00:34:55,893
It is funny that the two demos that they
all wanna do at Google is book

821
00:34:55,893 --> 00:34:58,214
you a flight and show you how a black hole
works.

822
00:34:58,214 --> 00:34:59,834
It's like, where are you guys booking
flights to?

823
00:34:59,834 --> 00:35:04,074
Like, what is it about? This is how a
black hole works.

824
00:35:01,372 --> 00:35:02,835
The center of the universe.

825
00:35:04,074 --> 00:35:06,494
Would you like me to book you a flight to
the closest one?

826
00:35:06,494 --> 00:35:08,574
Like, no, I'm good, thank you very much.

827
00:35:08,574 --> 00:35:09,674
I don't understand.

828
00:35:08,818 --> 00:35:10,111
I've read Icarus,

829
00:35:10,111 --> 00:35:11,946
I've read Icarus. I know what happens
there.

830
00:35:12,222 --> 00:35:14,003
It is interesting though, the,

831
00:35:14,003 --> 00:35:17,365
cause this has already basically happened.

832
00:35:17,365 --> 00:35:20,087
We're all just letting it happen.

833
00:35:20,087 --> 00:35:27,012
But this is the most sure example of
Google just wants you to only use one
website.

834
00:35:27,012 --> 00:35:30,594
Just go to google.com for literally
everything.

835
00:35:27,692 --> 00:35:29,471
Yeah.

836
00:35:30,594 --> 00:35:33,116
And we never want to send you to anywhere
else.

837
00:35:33,116 --> 00:35:36,158
And I it's like, and we're all just
allowing that to happen.

838
00:35:36,158 --> 00:35:41,612
And that's, I think a negative across the
board.

839
00:35:41,803 --> 00:35:47,068
like Google, super useful. Where did it
get all of that useful information from?

840
00:35:47,068 --> 00:35:49,510
A bunch of websites that are just not
going to exist anymore.

841
00:35:47,339 --> 00:35:48,339
Well...

842
00:35:51,266 --> 00:35:57,291
I will say though like I Think they are
fighting still

843
00:35:57,632 --> 00:36:03,217
the pull of these the other AI's namely
Chachapi T and Claude

844
00:36:03,898 --> 00:36:08,642
in the search department like my daughter
she wants a bunny for

845
00:36:08,642 --> 00:36:12,055
her birthday and I know nothing about
bunnies.

846
00:36:12,055 --> 00:36:13,276
I don't know about you Jason

847
00:36:13,322 --> 00:36:14,703
We had a bunny when I was a child.

848
00:36:14,703 --> 00:36:18,505
It died. mean, obviously, right?

849
00:36:16,662 --> 00:36:17,846
Well, they don't live that long.

850
00:36:17,846 --> 00:36:21,799
Did you enjoy the bunny?

851
00:36:18,505 --> 00:36:20,946
Obviously, it's not still running around
our yard.

852
00:36:20,946 --> 00:36:24,358
I did not enjoy cleaning out the cage.

853
00:36:21,799 --> 00:36:22,799
Just out of curiosity.

854
00:36:24,358 --> 00:36:26,309
I would not encourage anyone to get a
bunny.

855
00:36:24,758 --> 00:36:28,958
Well, see, that's the thing.

856
00:36:26,309 --> 00:36:31,432
I would encourage your daughter to get
have a friend by the bunny and then

857
00:36:31,432 --> 00:36:33,193
she can go over and play with the bunny.

858
00:36:33,193 --> 00:36:34,774
It's kind of like being an uncle.

859
00:36:33,300 --> 00:36:36,193
Yes or

860
00:36:34,774 --> 00:36:37,965
You don't have to like put you don't have
to bathe the children or feed them

861
00:36:37,965 --> 00:36:40,477
or put them to bed. You just get to hang
out with them and do cool things.

862
00:36:40,477 --> 00:36:42,258
My brother will like text us and be like,

863
00:36:42,258 --> 00:36:43,258
hey,

864
00:36:43,190 --> 00:36:45,217
Does your youngest want to go to a Lions
game?

865
00:36:45,217 --> 00:36:47,324
Yes, but you know what? He's like,

866
00:36:45,577 --> 00:36:46,577
Wow.

867
00:36:47,324 --> 00:36:49,894
I don't have to deal with the sugar rush
afterwards.

868
00:36:50,208 --> 00:36:54,030
That's the thing. Well, it's like it's
better to know someone with a boat than

869
00:36:54,030 --> 00:36:56,241
to own the boat. You know what I mean?

870
00:36:54,891 --> 00:36:55,891
Absolutely.

871
00:36:56,241 --> 00:37:00,893
So anyway, she's probably going get a
bunny because she wants a bunny.

872
00:37:00,893 --> 00:37:03,674
Like she already has a friend with a bunny
and that's why she wants a bunny.

873
00:37:03,674 --> 00:37:05,344
So like the bunny is probably happening.

874
00:37:05,344 --> 00:37:08,966
That ship has sailed. I know nothing about
bunny breeds.

875
00:37:08,966 --> 00:37:11,807
I could not have told you a bunny breed
two days ago.

876
00:37:11,807 --> 00:37:15,769
And so she said last night,

877
00:37:15,769 --> 00:37:17,189
can we do some research on bunnies?

878
00:37:17,189 --> 00:37:18,580
I said, sure.

879
00:37:19,456 --> 00:37:22,588
And so I handed her my phone with Claude
open.

880
00:37:22,588 --> 00:37:26,181
And I didn't really give her any
instructions.

881
00:37:26,181 --> 00:37:28,432
was like, all right, go ahead and ask some
questions.

882
00:37:28,432 --> 00:37:30,613
First of all, I always think it's
interesting.

883
00:37:30,613 --> 00:37:33,836
Number, like step one,

884
00:37:33,836 --> 00:37:35,477
she just started talking to it.

885
00:37:35,477 --> 00:37:38,252
She didn't try typing to it. And she
doesn't have it,

886
00:37:38,252 --> 00:37:39,639
like she types plenty, but she was like,

887
00:37:39,639 --> 00:37:41,080
she's just gonna talk to this thing.

888
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,002
So she tapped the voice mode and she just
started talking to it.

889
00:37:44,002 --> 00:37:46,184
And she just asked it a bunch of
questions.

890
00:37:46,184 --> 00:37:47,765
She has it for pictures.

891
00:37:48,203 --> 00:37:51,194
She has to like the breeds and like
friendliness and all this kind of stuff.

892
00:37:51,194 --> 00:37:54,155
And she was just talking to Claude about
the bunnies.

893
00:37:54,155 --> 00:37:56,475
Now, if I would have handed her the Gemini
app,

894
00:37:56,475 --> 00:37:57,475
she would have just used that.

895
00:37:57,336 --> 00:37:59,136
Or the Chat GPT app, she would have just
used that.

896
00:37:59,136 --> 00:38:00,937
But I do think there is a like,

897
00:38:00,937 --> 00:38:03,727
you know, whatever your preference is,

898
00:38:03,727 --> 00:38:05,858
like these all do fairly well.

899
00:38:05,858 --> 00:38:10,599
And so Google maybe is trying to
differentiate leveraging all the data

900
00:38:10,599 --> 00:38:13,740
it has about you, playing that into
personal intelligence,

901
00:38:13,740 --> 00:38:16,161
saying, we'll even build you an
interactive visual.

902
00:38:16,801 --> 00:38:19,461
I think they're having to compete because
I think it is still,

903
00:38:19,461 --> 00:38:21,361
we're still in a competitive market.

904
00:38:21,361 --> 00:38:22,841
Like they haven't won just yet.

905
00:38:22,841 --> 00:38:24,421
I mean, they've won for many years.

906
00:38:24,421 --> 00:38:26,801
Google search has been the default for
many years.

907
00:38:26,801 --> 00:38:30,941
And this has been the first few year span
where they've been challenged

908
00:38:30,941 --> 00:38:33,821
in this department where people are not
always going to Google

909
00:38:33,821 --> 00:38:36,801
to search bunny breeds. But yeah,

910
00:38:36,801 --> 00:38:38,941
they're trying, I think they're trying to
get back into it.

911
00:38:38,941 --> 00:38:42,541
So anyway, sure. What,

912
00:38:40,950 --> 00:38:41,950
Yeah.

913
00:38:42,541 --> 00:38:43,541
what you gonna say?

914
00:38:43,054 --> 00:38:47,822
Well, Google doesn't care because it
doesn't ~ like that particular set

915
00:38:47,822 --> 00:38:49,485
of sure you could do that on Google.

916
00:38:49,485 --> 00:38:51,569
Like it would just give you an overview.

917
00:38:51,569 --> 00:38:53,793
But you weren't going to Google to buy a
bunny.

918
00:38:54,973 --> 00:38:58,856
Yeah, sure, but they sure could have shown
you ads for whatever person

919
00:38:58,856 --> 00:39:01,369
is getting the bunny breed keyword.

920
00:39:01,369 --> 00:39:05,322
And that is the thing,

921
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,978
The bunny breed buyer. Yeah.

922
00:39:05,322 --> 00:39:08,985
that is still the core of Google's
business is the ads business,

923
00:39:08,985 --> 00:39:10,787
and they still need to be able to show you
the ads.

924
00:39:10,787 --> 00:39:13,941
And so they need you there. They need you
on the Google search,

925
00:39:13,941 --> 00:39:15,010
because that's what people pay for.

926
00:39:15,010 --> 00:39:19,704
And I don't know what that means for
anti-gravity building you a visualization

927
00:39:19,704 --> 00:39:22,667
of a bunny, and whether or not you'll see
an ad.

928
00:39:21,834 --> 00:39:22,834
I think that's not

929
00:39:22,675 --> 00:39:25,077
necessary. But what it would do is like,

930
00:39:25,077 --> 00:39:31,352
build you and spin up an app in real time
in your search that

931
00:39:31,352 --> 00:39:37,466
then monitors the local bunny farm has a
countdown

932
00:39:36,694 --> 00:39:41,125
Yeah, right? Yeah?

933
00:39:37,466 --> 00:39:40,649
on their website telling you when the next
breed is going to be born

934
00:39:40,649 --> 00:39:43,551
and Google will just check that every day
and then it will send

935
00:39:43,551 --> 00:39:45,733
you a notification when the bunnies are
ready to be bought.

936
00:39:46,273 --> 00:39:49,495
Gemini Spark, build a rabbit agent.

937
00:39:49,495 --> 00:39:55,579
No, not rabbit agent. I said rabbit agent
to check.

938
00:39:53,577 --> 00:39:58,643
rabid. You're going to get the scariest
bunny that you could possibly.

939
00:39:55,579 --> 00:39:58,840
Please,

940
00:39:58,643 --> 00:40:01,626
Why is my bunny a rabies? I don't
understand.

941
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:02,783
Exactly, so red eyes,

942
00:40:02,783 --> 00:40:05,494
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more Google stuff. Google Cart.

1053
00:45:10,336 --> 00:45:11,578
You have some thoughts on Google Cart.

1054
00:45:11,578 --> 00:45:14,643
Google said Universal Cart is like your
cart everywhere.

1055
00:45:14,643 --> 00:45:16,546
Whatever you want to buy, if it's on
YouTube,

1056
00:45:16,546 --> 00:45:19,451
if it's in Gmail, it's all the things.

1057
00:45:19,451 --> 00:45:20,733
Cart.

1058
00:45:20,382 --> 00:45:21,382
Yeah,

1059
00:45:20,942 --> 00:45:25,585
this isn't well, there's there are three
different pieces to this.

1060
00:45:25,585 --> 00:45:29,968
One is a protocol. They had to get
everybody on board with a protocol.

1061
00:45:29,939 --> 00:45:30,960
That's fun. Yeah.

1062
00:45:29,968 --> 00:45:33,210
So here's so I do want to say one thing
about that.

1063
00:45:33,210 --> 00:45:39,174
What this means is this is distinct from I
think the demo you showed where like your

1064
00:45:39,174 --> 00:45:42,196
phone is actually tapping around on the
Starbucks app on its own.

1065
00:45:42,196 --> 00:45:46,169
That's not this. And in some ways,

1066
00:45:46,169 --> 00:45:47,920
what Google is saying, I'm sorry,

1067
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:49,581
that's too hard. Right.

1068
00:45:49,959 --> 00:45:53,121
So this universal commerce protocol,

1069
00:45:53,121 --> 00:45:55,273
whatever they called it, is essentially
like,

1070
00:45:55,273 --> 00:45:59,126
it's basically just an API between Target
and Walmart and Google

1071
00:45:59,126 --> 00:46:00,937
and all these places so that they can
communicate.

1072
00:46:00,937 --> 00:46:05,230
And I think Google said they have like 60
billion items.

1073
00:46:04,915 --> 00:46:05,915
Sometimes, yeah.

1074
00:46:05,230 --> 00:46:08,602
And it's basically a big MySQL database
with a bunch of stuff in it that they

1075
00:46:08,602 --> 00:46:10,634
can just like, you click, you want this?

1076
00:46:10,634 --> 00:46:11,905
Okay, so there's that piece of it.

1077
00:46:11,905 --> 00:46:16,188
Then there's this payment processing piece
of the whole thing,

1078
00:46:16,188 --> 00:46:17,959
which is kind of insane.

1079
00:46:18,205 --> 00:46:22,350
this agent payments protocol, which is
this multi-layered thing that

1080
00:46:22,350 --> 00:46:25,003
is too confusing to really get into,

1081
00:46:25,003 --> 00:46:30,910
but basically think about what would be
required to unleash agents with your
credit

1082
00:46:30,910 --> 00:46:31,910
card on the internet.

1083
00:46:33,073 --> 00:46:34,073
What could go wrong?

1084
00:46:33,799 --> 00:46:34,799
just

1085
00:46:34,089 --> 00:46:38,631
think about that, right? And Google
explains it in a way that I'm sure is
right.

1086
00:46:38,631 --> 00:46:40,991
But it's basically like, you know,

1087
00:46:40,991 --> 00:46:45,303
you have to have the user tell the agent
or tell the agent what they want.

1088
00:46:45,303 --> 00:46:47,454
And the agent has to find it and put it
into a cart.

1089
00:46:47,454 --> 00:46:49,224
And then the merchant has to be like,

1090
00:46:49,224 --> 00:46:52,926
Yep, I agree. I signed this. But the
reason that this all matters is like,

1091
00:46:52,926 --> 00:46:56,157
what happens if toilet paper shows up at
your house and you're like,

1092
00:46:56,157 --> 00:46:57,157
I didn't

1093
00:46:57,096 --> 00:46:59,388
want this? didn't order this. Yeah,

1094
00:46:57,787 --> 00:46:59,558
Why is there a canoe in my front yard?

1095
00:46:59,388 --> 00:47:02,561
I did not. Just because one time on
Instagram,

1096
00:47:02,561 --> 00:47:06,003
I liked a photo of people canoeing did not
mean buy it for me.

1097
00:47:06,003 --> 00:47:09,656
Right? So so what goes wrong? Who's
responsible for that?

1098
00:47:06,130 --> 00:47:07,130
Wait a minute, yeah.

1099
00:47:09,656 --> 00:47:11,298
Right? Like if when that happens,

1100
00:47:10,099 --> 00:47:11,099
Yeah.

1101
00:47:11,298 --> 00:47:13,069
so they had to build all of this stuff.

1102
00:47:13,069 --> 00:47:17,123
And then the conclusion of that is this
thing called universal cart,

1103
00:47:17,123 --> 00:47:19,525
which basically means if you're on Google,

1104
00:47:19,525 --> 00:47:23,408
if you're in Gemini, if you're on YouTube,

1105
00:47:23,408 --> 00:47:24,489
or if you're in mail,

1106
00:47:24,713 --> 00:47:28,833
You can literally just start adding things
to a cart that Google holds.

1107
00:47:27,411 --> 00:47:28,411
Alright.

1108
00:47:28,833 --> 00:47:31,713
And then you can look at the cart and be
like,

1109
00:47:31,713 --> 00:47:33,873
yep, I want to buy this. And it'll just go
out and be like,

1110
00:47:33,873 --> 00:47:36,293
oh, this only has four items left and it's
on sale.

1111
00:47:36,293 --> 00:47:38,433
So let me put a coupon code in there for
you.

1112
00:47:38,433 --> 00:47:42,233
And you can either finish the transaction
in Google's universal cart or

1113
00:47:42,233 --> 00:47:45,373
you can go to the merchant. Go ahead.

1114
00:47:44,285 --> 00:47:45,726
Right,

1115
00:47:45,726 --> 00:47:47,227
it'll also proactively be like,

1116
00:47:47,227 --> 00:47:50,601
~ your Amex, if you buy it with your Amex,

1117
00:47:50,601 --> 00:47:53,073
you get 3 % off or whatever. So,

1118
00:47:52,345 --> 00:47:53,345
Yes.

1119
00:47:53,073 --> 00:47:54,073
yeah.

1120
00:47:53,506 --> 00:47:55,306
Well, that was the most interesting thing.

1121
00:47:55,306 --> 00:47:58,428
It's like, yes, if you use this card that
we know is in your wallet,

1122
00:47:58,428 --> 00:47:59,996
you'll get this many points. I'm like,

1123
00:47:58,588 --> 00:47:59,588
Right.

1124
00:47:59,996 --> 00:48:02,029
I get why Google's doing this.

1125
00:48:02,029 --> 00:48:08,112
There's no company on Earth more willing
to pay money for this sort

1126
00:48:02,384 --> 00:48:03,384
Yeah.

1127
00:48:08,112 --> 00:48:09,392
of thing than American Express.

1128
00:48:09,392 --> 00:48:14,645
Like, literally, when I worked in a
previous publication and that publication
wrote

1129
00:48:10,195 --> 00:48:11,195
Ha ha ha.

1130
00:48:14,645 --> 00:48:18,226
about credit cards, the reason they did is
an affiliate link from a credit card

1131
00:48:18,226 --> 00:48:19,585
was like $700.

1132
00:48:19,857 --> 00:48:20,857
Yeah,

1133
00:48:20,269 --> 00:48:21,269
something crazy.

1134
00:48:20,713 --> 00:48:21,713
that they would pay, like, oh,

1135
00:48:21,673 --> 00:48:25,413
now I know why the Amex Platinum card has
a $800 membership fee.

1136
00:48:24,489 --> 00:48:25,669
That's why all your travel

1137
00:48:25,669 --> 00:48:28,349
influencers, they hawk credit cards.

1138
00:48:28,273 --> 00:48:31,245
Yeah, they get paid big time paid anyway,

1139
00:48:28,349 --> 00:48:33,049
Yeah. If you buy a MagSafe charger from
me,

1140
00:48:31,245 --> 00:48:32,245
so

1141
00:48:33,049 --> 00:48:35,149
my Amazon affiliate revenue is like one
cent.

1142
00:48:35,149 --> 00:48:38,129
So that's, yeah, that's the difference.

1143
00:48:35,185 --> 00:48:40,135
Yeah. The reason Stephen has to push them
so much is he needs a billion people

1144
00:48:38,129 --> 00:48:42,069
No, I love,

1145
00:48:40,135 --> 00:48:41,468
to buy them. I'm just kidding.

1146
00:48:41,468 --> 00:48:42,468
I'm just kidding.

1147
00:48:42,069 --> 00:48:45,189
I love, look at that, look these MagSafe
batteries.

1148
00:48:45,189 --> 00:48:47,989
I actually, oh, can I tell you,

1149
00:48:47,989 --> 00:48:50,797
my son had a birthday party the other day
and...

1150
00:48:51,416 --> 00:48:54,797
He's turned 17 and so like all those
friends are like teenagers and most

1151
00:48:54,797 --> 00:48:57,777
of them had iPhones. I already tell you
the story Never mind.

1152
00:48:56,445 --> 00:48:57,577
Yeah, you did last week, but it's fine.

1153
00:48:57,577 --> 00:49:00,571
You can say it again. You gave away
MagSafe batteries.

1154
00:48:57,777 --> 00:48:59,217
Forget it. No, no, that's fine.

1155
00:48:59,217 --> 00:49:03,897
I realized as the idea as I started to
tell stars like oh shoot I already said
this

1156
00:49:00,571 --> 00:49:04,518
It's fine.

1157
00:49:03,897 --> 00:49:05,917
never mind. You can listen to last week's
episode.

1158
00:49:04,518 --> 00:49:08,384
It's good. Good, good promotion there.

1159
00:49:05,917 --> 00:49:08,557
You want to hear that story? Yeah,

1160
00:49:08,384 --> 00:49:09,384
Anyway.

1161
00:49:08,557 --> 00:49:11,757
Wait, so you were saying the universal
cart.

1162
00:49:11,282 --> 00:49:13,355
I have no idea. Yeah, we're no.

1163
00:49:11,757 --> 00:49:13,805
Okay, very good. I

1164
00:49:13,355 --> 00:49:14,355
Yeah. But

1165
00:49:14,026 --> 00:49:16,428
the point is, if you're in Gmail and you
see a thing,

1166
00:49:16,428 --> 00:49:17,950
you could just be like, this to my car.

1167
00:49:16,839 --> 00:49:18,607
Yeah, sure, sure.

1168
00:49:17,950 --> 00:49:20,978
Or you're on YouTube and Stephen is
talking about a MagSafe battery pack.

1169
00:49:20,978 --> 00:49:23,096
You just add this to my car. The problem
is,

1170
00:49:23,096 --> 00:49:26,691
think about this. You're not getting your
Amazon affiliate when that happens.

1171
00:49:27,591 --> 00:49:29,764
That is true. unless they go, well,

1172
00:49:29,764 --> 00:49:31,957
and they didn't show Amazon in those
demos,

1173
00:49:31,957 --> 00:49:33,029
so it remains to be seen.

1174
00:49:32,061 --> 00:49:33,182
So Amazon is

1175
00:49:33,182 --> 00:49:36,346
a partner with the first of the things
that I talked about,

1176
00:49:36,346 --> 00:49:40,871
which is the protocol, universal commerce
protocol,

1177
00:49:38,191 --> 00:49:39,191
Okay.

1178
00:49:40,871 --> 00:49:43,594
Walmart, Amazon, Target, Shopify,

1179
00:49:43,594 --> 00:49:44,776
all these people are a part of that.

1180
00:49:44,776 --> 00:49:46,398
But that just basically means like,

1181
00:49:46,398 --> 00:49:49,161
we'll all share information about this
sort of thing.

1182
00:49:49,235 --> 00:49:51,675
They'll probably share their items so they
show up in search,

1183
00:49:51,675 --> 00:49:53,955
but then to check out, I imagine you have
to go to Amazon.

1184
00:49:54,535 --> 00:49:56,356
Yeah, I mean, I don't I don't know.

1185
00:49:56,356 --> 00:49:59,928
But the point I think the whole reason
Google is doing this is right now,

1186
00:49:59,928 --> 00:50:04,571
Google is the default place that some
number of people go when they're looking

1187
00:50:04,571 --> 00:50:06,782
to buy things, right? That's why shopping
is such a huge thing.

1188
00:50:05,513 --> 00:50:06,513
Sure.

1189
00:50:06,782 --> 00:50:08,803
And it's the simplest thing to monetize,

1190
00:50:08,803 --> 00:50:10,094
because it's like a transaction.

1191
00:50:10,094 --> 00:50:13,626
And for the rest of humanity, Amazon,

1192
00:50:13,626 --> 00:50:15,357
you just go to Amazon when you're looking
for something,

1193
00:50:14,515 --> 00:50:15,813
He's got everything. Yeah.

1194
00:50:15,357 --> 00:50:16,357
right?

1195
00:50:16,079 --> 00:50:18,855
and Google's like, we need to capture all
of this.

1196
00:50:18,855 --> 00:50:20,828
And we just want to be the default place.

1197
00:50:20,828 --> 00:50:23,604
And we actually don't even we actually
don't even want you to go to target.com.

1198
00:50:23,604 --> 00:50:24,726
We just want you to come here,

1199
00:50:24,726 --> 00:50:26,991
put the alt stuff in your universal car,

1200
00:50:26,991 --> 00:50:28,013
and we'll deal with the rest of it.

1201
00:50:28,457 --> 00:50:34,577
Yeah, we'll see. We'll see. don't use
Google Pay or really a shop or anything,

1202
00:50:34,577 --> 00:50:37,317
but... Yeah, I have to use Google Wallet.

1203
00:50:34,599 --> 00:50:36,212
Yeah, you do have to be using Google
Wallet,

1204
00:50:36,212 --> 00:50:38,477
which I don't use Google.

1205
00:50:37,317 --> 00:50:40,157
No, I don't use that. don't use that.

1206
00:50:40,157 --> 00:50:41,777
All right, we're try to jam through this,

1207
00:50:41,777 --> 00:50:44,857
but there was more generative stuff like
Google Picks.

1208
00:50:44,857 --> 00:50:47,497
Again, it's AI altering images,

1209
00:50:47,497 --> 00:50:50,257
doing stuff, which looked kind of cool,

1210
00:50:50,257 --> 00:50:54,597
honestly, like resizing subjects within a
photo and then overlaying text.

1211
00:50:54,597 --> 00:50:57,737
Like all those flyers that people put...

1212
00:50:57,991 --> 00:51:01,722
Like they make for schools or like small
groups like maybe though that maybe
they'll

1213
00:51:01,722 --> 00:51:04,063
look better now because you could use
Google pics.

1214
00:51:04,063 --> 00:51:10,976
That's fun ~ flow for like more video
generation and They also said something

1215
00:51:10,976 --> 00:51:17,939
about you can create your own creative
apps With AI in flow and they basically
show

1216
00:51:17,939 --> 00:51:20,630
like a marketplace of apps. So it looked
like you know,

1217
00:51:20,630 --> 00:51:25,601
if you wanted to create your own creative
tool for Whatever like you want

1218
00:51:25,601 --> 00:51:26,912
a specific tool to

1219
00:51:27,888 --> 00:51:32,271
make book covers, can vibe code but
without the coding.

1220
00:51:32,271 --> 00:51:36,033
Like, vibe prompt, I want a tool that does
this,

1221
00:51:36,033 --> 00:51:37,824
and then you could just do it.

1222
00:51:37,824 --> 00:51:40,155
And then there'll be a marketplace of the
tools that everybody's built.

1223
00:51:40,155 --> 00:51:44,458
Kind of interesting. That seems kind of
wild also.

1224
00:51:44,458 --> 00:51:47,384
I guess it'd be like custom GPTs almost,

1225
00:51:47,384 --> 00:51:50,942
where there's a marketplace of
hyper-specialized GPTs.

1226
00:51:50,942 --> 00:51:52,753
anyway, there's that. Yeah, music,

1227
00:51:52,753 --> 00:51:54,684
you generate everything. Generate all the
things.

1228
00:51:53,777 --> 00:51:54,908
I mean, you

1229
00:51:54,908 --> 00:51:57,329
just described a bunch of things that also
sound a lot like a bunch

1230
00:51:57,329 --> 00:52:00,210
of other things that Google has like
Google pics and Google photos.

1231
00:51:59,964 --> 00:52:00,964
Yes, yes.

1232
00:52:00,210 --> 00:52:02,621
And then there's like a video thing that's
not video,

1233
00:52:02,621 --> 00:52:07,873
but there's still video like. But there's
also this flow app thing,

1234
00:52:04,616 --> 00:52:05,964
There is still video. I don't know.

1235
00:52:07,873 --> 00:52:10,764
but also couldn't you have anti gravity do
like,

1236
00:52:10,764 --> 00:52:12,105
I don't understand, Steven.

1237
00:52:12,181 --> 00:52:15,560
It's all all the things are all the things
All right.

1238
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:17,825
Well the land at the end of the keynote I
didn't want to get to this

1239
00:52:17,825 --> 00:52:22,819
was they announced audio glasses and So
last year Google I know what

1240
00:52:22,819 --> 00:52:26,101
you were there for there was the which we
didn't really say you didn't make

1241
00:52:26,101 --> 00:52:29,274
it out to Google I hope that's it Right,

1242
00:52:26,459 --> 00:52:28,327
I didn't go because I'm going to Montreal.

1243
00:52:29,274 --> 00:52:31,996
you know, I think I feel like maybe that
was a better choice

1244
00:52:31,815 --> 00:52:32,815
The actual

1245
00:52:32,435 --> 00:52:36,307
real reason I didn't go is we have a kid
graduating in about a week

1246
00:52:36,568 --> 00:52:41,120
and a half's time. And so the number of
things that are we're actually recording

1247
00:52:36,827 --> 00:52:37,827
Right.

1248
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:44,102
this podcast a day early because tomorrow
morning I have a thing to do and

1249
00:52:42,598 --> 00:52:43,598
Yes.

1250
00:52:44,102 --> 00:52:47,384
I had to change a flight to go to Montreal
to a different day because

1251
00:52:47,384 --> 00:52:49,775
our daughter did her homework for the last
13 years.

1252
00:52:49,775 --> 00:52:51,376
And so we have to go to a little ceremony.

1253
00:52:51,416 --> 00:52:53,262
because wow wow

1254
00:52:53,283 --> 00:52:57,265
yeah that's it well congratulations to her
and you

1255
00:52:57,363 --> 00:52:59,388
She's graduating with honor. So there we
go.

1256
00:52:59,497 --> 00:53:01,378
There you go, that's awesome. Google,

1257
00:53:01,378 --> 00:53:04,880
the audio glasses. Last year you got to
try the Google glasses where there

1258
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:08,061
was a display in the lens. And now Google
is like,

1259
00:53:06,096 --> 00:53:07,096
Yes.

1260
00:53:08,061 --> 00:53:12,534
no, this is all audio. So audio glasses
will have Gemini built in and

1261
00:53:12,534 --> 00:53:13,995
it can just talk to you all day,

1262
00:53:13,995 --> 00:53:17,726
all day battery life. It still has a
camera so you can like take pictures,

1263
00:53:17,726 --> 00:53:19,888
but it won't show you anything on a
display.

1264
00:53:19,888 --> 00:53:22,919
And okay, one,

1265
00:53:22,919 --> 00:53:25,641
I thought, wow, this would be great if
AirPods and an iPhone can

1266
00:53:25,641 --> 00:53:27,532
do this because it's exactly the same
thing.

1267
00:53:28,648 --> 00:53:30,808
And if AirPods have the camera like were
rumored last week,

1268
00:53:30,808 --> 00:53:33,888
like yeah, just talk to Apple intelligence
to do this kind of stuff.

1269
00:53:33,888 --> 00:53:36,128
And also they had like, well, first of
all,

1270
00:53:36,128 --> 00:53:39,288
Warby Parker, Gentle Monster, they're
making very nice looking glasses.

1271
00:53:39,288 --> 00:53:41,028
Or at least they say it's nice looking.

1272
00:53:41,028 --> 00:53:42,748
They look fine. I wear Warby Parker.

1273
00:53:42,748 --> 00:53:45,108
But they even said like you can get
directions.

1274
00:53:45,108 --> 00:53:47,588
And like, you know, you know, what's
really helpful when you get directions

1275
00:53:47,588 --> 00:53:51,388
is like seeing where to go. And so like,

1276
00:53:49,541 --> 00:53:50,541
Yeah.

1277
00:53:51,388 --> 00:53:54,308
yes, the audio telling you to turn left or
turn right is fine.

1278
00:53:54,308 --> 00:53:56,208
But I feel like you're going to want to
see an arrow.

1279
00:53:56,654 --> 00:53:58,345
on a screen or pointing in a direction.

1280
00:53:58,345 --> 00:54:01,128
So I feel like audio only glasses,

1281
00:54:01,128 --> 00:54:03,289
I don't know how that, I don't know.

1282
00:54:03,289 --> 00:54:04,520
And then at the end of the demo,

1283
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:07,913
they were like, we're gonna take a photo
and I'm gonna have Jim and I put

1284
00:54:07,913 --> 00:54:12,307
a blimp in the background and make the
whole photo cartoon imagery.

1285
00:54:12,307 --> 00:54:16,040
And I was like, well, why are you even
taking the picture?

1286
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:17,881
Like, why don't you just prompt it to like
make a,

1287
00:54:17,881 --> 00:54:20,904
like AI generate a photo of a crowd with a
blimp over it.

1288
00:54:20,904 --> 00:54:23,066
If you're gonna, and that was the other
thing of like,

1289
00:54:23,066 --> 00:54:25,968
it feels very much like Google is just
trying to get you to like,

1290
00:54:27,005 --> 00:54:30,353
AI all the things like even a real photo
that you're taking with like physical

1291
00:54:30,353 --> 00:54:33,932
glasses of real people like you know what
let's AI that too let's just

1292
00:54:33,932 --> 00:54:36,227
put a blimp in the background for no
reason so

1293
00:54:37,456 --> 00:54:41,590
I feel like the movie clip today should
have been like Robin Williams arguing with

1294
00:54:41,590 --> 00:54:46,044
the GPS in the movie RV where it just
keeps like telling it turn left turn left.

1295
00:54:43,911 --> 00:54:44,911
It's a good one.

1296
00:54:46,044 --> 00:54:48,756
Do you really what you know what I do the
first time I get into a car and

1297
00:54:48,756 --> 00:54:52,669
I hook up like I turn off the audio part
of the navigation.

1298
00:54:52,669 --> 00:54:54,201
I just want to see it on the screen.

1299
00:54:54,201 --> 00:54:56,112
I do not ever want it talking to me.

1300
00:54:54,384 --> 00:54:56,991
Yeah, I don't have my talk to me either.

1301
00:54:56,112 --> 00:55:00,857
And this is literally what if you couldn't
see anything and we just shout

1302
00:55:00,857 --> 00:55:03,339
at you turn left turn left. I don't want
that.

1303
00:55:01,646 --> 00:55:03,906
Yeah, yeah

1304
00:55:03,339 --> 00:55:04,570
I don't want it Steven. It's bad.

1305
00:55:05,607 --> 00:55:09,268
Now they close the well they close the
keynote with those wild quotes,

1306
00:55:09,268 --> 00:55:13,920
which I already stated I do want to say
one thing that I would love to

1307
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:18,508
see Apple be able to do something like
this with Apple intelligence,

1308
00:55:18,508 --> 00:55:21,553
but I just don't know if it will ever
happen But they talked about

1309
00:55:21,553 --> 00:55:25,775
how weather next which is one of their
like AI models

1310
00:55:26,755 --> 00:55:28,626
was used to help

1311
00:55:28,808 --> 00:55:32,430
~ better hurricane tracking and
forecasting.

1312
00:55:32,430 --> 00:55:36,351
And there was a massive hurricane that hit
Jamaica last year

1313
00:55:36,491 --> 00:55:41,413
and Google's Weather Next was part of the
tools that was used for early warning

1314
00:55:41,814 --> 00:55:45,935
and I think even the governor or the mayor
~ in Jamaica talked about

1315
00:55:45,935 --> 00:55:50,367
how it helped them be able to share
warnings earlier,

1316
00:55:50,367 --> 00:55:54,829
which literally saved lives. And that's
the thing is because one,

1317
00:55:54,829 --> 00:55:56,540
they should have opened the keynote with
this kind of stuff.

1318
00:55:57,362 --> 00:56:02,246
Tell the stories of like why AI is like
can be useful right now and like

1319
00:56:02,246 --> 00:56:05,659
the fact that you saved lives because of
hurricane prediction models using your

1320
00:56:05,659 --> 00:56:10,163
AI like that's cool like that's
unequivocally Impressive and like that's

1321
00:56:10,163 --> 00:56:13,115
the kind of like Apple watch stories you
hear at the beginning

1322
00:56:13,115 --> 00:56:17,569
of Apple keynotes like do that at the
front You know frame it like that because
when

1323
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:17,360
Right.

1324
00:56:17,569 --> 00:56:21,392
I saw that part of the keynote I was like
man Google gets to say

1325
00:56:21,813 --> 00:56:25,426
our technology is being used outside our
walls

1326
00:56:25,734 --> 00:56:29,246
by weather forecasters and is making a
difference in the real world.

1327
00:56:29,246 --> 00:56:32,128
And I thought back to Apple and like,

1328
00:56:32,128 --> 00:56:33,670
I'm excited to get to go to DubDub.

1329
00:56:33,670 --> 00:56:35,841
All the rumors are that Apple Intelligence
is going to be,

1330
00:56:35,841 --> 00:56:37,542
you know, big announcements there,

1331
00:56:37,542 --> 00:56:40,855
Siri's going to get better. The one thing
Apple is not going to be able

1332
00:56:41,175 --> 00:56:47,379
to say is that like our AI technology will
be used to do X,

1333
00:56:47,379 --> 00:56:50,521
Y or Z out in the world because they just
don't have it.

1334
00:56:50,521 --> 00:56:54,204
And they're so much so that they are
literally using Google's AI.

1335
00:56:54,696 --> 00:56:58,596
to power Apple Intelligence, and we're
going to probably see that at DubDub.

1336
00:56:58,596 --> 00:57:01,576
And I understand that's just not where
they're at.

1337
00:57:01,576 --> 00:57:05,076
They're making the devices that all people
are using the AI on.

1338
00:57:05,076 --> 00:57:08,256
They're making all the Mac Minis and all
the laptops that people are using it.

1339
00:57:08,256 --> 00:57:12,076
And there's literally an iPhone 17 Pro in
the Google keynote using Google Spark.

1340
00:57:12,076 --> 00:57:15,756
Apple is making the hardware that all of
this stuff is running on.

1341
00:57:15,756 --> 00:57:17,976
But it would also be nice if Apple could
say,

1342
00:57:17,976 --> 00:57:21,856
we're making a tool for the outside world
to use.

1343
00:57:22,076 --> 00:57:27,639
because our software or our compute is so
good that we are making that difference.

1344
00:57:27,639 --> 00:57:30,240
maybe they don't need to do that,

1345
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:32,741
but that was a moment in the Google
keynote where I was like,

1346
00:57:32,741 --> 00:57:35,323
wow, that's cool. That's a cool thing.

1347
00:57:35,323 --> 00:57:37,474
And when we get to the accessibility
features,

1348
00:57:37,474 --> 00:57:39,505
I actually had a lot of people on social
media were like,

1349
00:57:39,505 --> 00:57:41,546
this is what AI should be used for.

1350
00:57:41,546 --> 00:57:45,478
Like, let it help someone who's visually
impaired tell what's in front

1351
00:57:45,478 --> 00:57:47,769
of them and let AI be able to talk to them
about it.

1352
00:57:47,769 --> 00:57:48,769
Like, those are cool use cases.

1353
00:57:48,740 --> 00:57:50,276
And Apple is doing that, to be clear.

1354
00:57:50,276 --> 00:57:51,311
We're going to talk about that in a
second.

1355
00:57:51,611 --> 00:57:53,912
But it was kind of cool to hear Google and
the weather.

1356
00:57:55,516 --> 00:57:58,781
Yeah, I mean, whether I mean, this was
their Apple watch,

1357
00:57:58,781 --> 00:58:01,134
right? Yeah.

1358
00:57:59,494 --> 00:58:01,355
That's yeah, exactly. That's like their
Apple

1359
00:58:01,355 --> 00:58:05,415
watch story whether or not it will cure
all disease probably not probably

1360
00:58:05,106 --> 00:58:06,106
TBD.

1361
00:58:05,415 --> 00:58:10,715
not TBD are you had a great article last
Google thing before we go to

1362
00:58:10,715 --> 00:58:12,775
iOS 27 we talked about the Google book
last week,

1363
00:58:12,775 --> 00:58:17,115
but I'll also link to your ink article
Usually this seems like

1364
00:58:17,115 --> 00:58:18,755
a shorter headline for you, but I do think
it's great.

1365
00:58:18,755 --> 00:58:20,915
The Google book doesn't make any good any
sense

1366
00:58:20,848 --> 00:58:21,848
I

1367
00:58:20,938 --> 00:58:23,199
don't understand. I a lot of time thinking
about this,

1368
00:58:23,199 --> 00:58:25,011
Steven, and I don't understand.

1369
00:58:25,011 --> 00:58:27,292
I don't understand the Google book.

1370
00:58:27,292 --> 00:58:30,614
And the same thing is true with Spark is
basically like Copilot,

1371
00:58:30,614 --> 00:58:32,355
right? Like I don't understand.

1372
00:58:31,153 --> 00:58:32,153
Yeah.

1373
00:58:32,355 --> 00:58:37,258
I just can't figure out what they're and
except when you think about

1374
00:58:37,258 --> 00:58:40,090
the fact that they are not making

1375
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:43,120
They are trying

1376
00:58:42,284 --> 00:58:43,284
Right?

1377
00:58:42,740 --> 00:58:47,300
to get other people to make nicer
Chromebooks and they realized that

1378
00:58:46,438 --> 00:58:47,438
Yes.

1379
00:58:47,300 --> 00:58:48,760
if anyone was going to take them
seriously,

1380
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:52,000
they needed a new name and put a glowy
thing on them.

1381
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:53,580
And then they have a Google book.

1382
00:58:53,580 --> 00:58:55,040
I just, I mean, it's a terrible name,

1383
00:58:54,149 --> 00:58:55,149
Yeah,

1384
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:56,040
but.

1385
00:58:55,701 --> 00:58:58,964
it's a bad name. I could definitely see
them marketing like,

1386
00:58:58,964 --> 00:59:02,729
can run your Gemini Spark agent on your
Google Book,

1387
00:59:02,729 --> 00:59:05,061
tell it to do something, and just close
your laptop.

1388
00:59:05,061 --> 00:59:06,443
But they also just said in this keynote,

1389
00:59:06,443 --> 00:59:07,994
you could do that with your current
laptop.

1390
00:59:07,962 --> 00:59:08,962
I mean, but can

1391
00:59:08,462 --> 00:59:10,754
you just imagine like, Acer, Lenovo,

1392
00:59:10,754 --> 00:59:13,935
could you make a notebook and would you
put our name on it too?

1393
00:59:13,935 --> 00:59:15,196
Like at least when there's a Chromebook,

1394
00:59:15,196 --> 00:59:16,937
it just is like, it's Chrome. Yeah,

1395
00:59:16,937 --> 00:59:19,859
obviously every Lenovo laptop runs Chrome.

1396
00:59:19,859 --> 00:59:23,781
But now it's like, hey, what if we called
it a Google book and you made it?

1397
00:59:23,781 --> 00:59:25,962
It's like, okay, well, I don't know.

1398
00:59:25,635 --> 00:59:27,485
Yeah, yeah, that's

1399
00:59:25,962 --> 00:59:26,962
I just don't understand.

1400
00:59:27,485 --> 00:59:32,757
sure All right, so I was 27 Apple has done
this the last few years

1401
00:59:33,437 --> 00:59:37,498
and They announced the accessibility
features coming with the next software
early

1402
00:59:37,899 --> 00:59:42,080
So they actually unveiled the actual
features access accessibility features
coming

1403
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:47,411
with iOS 27 and they said a lot of them
are using Apple intelligence and

1404
00:59:47,411 --> 00:59:48,901
It was they have a really cool video.

1405
00:59:48,901 --> 00:59:53,523
I shared on social media basic voiceover
We can have someone who's visually
impaired

1406
00:59:53,523 --> 00:59:54,523
see what's in front of them

1407
00:59:54,905 --> 00:59:56,526
And like this is great uses of AI.

1408
00:59:56,526 --> 00:59:58,617
Like you can point your iPhone,

1409
00:59:58,617 --> 01:00:01,728
use the action button or program something
else and say,

1410
01:00:01,728 --> 01:00:03,248
what is this document I'm looking at?

1411
01:00:03,248 --> 01:00:04,639
So this person got something in the mail.

1412
01:00:04,639 --> 01:00:08,481
It's a bill. And Apple intelligence can
like interpret it for them.

1413
01:00:08,481 --> 01:00:11,732
They have like two shirts on the bed and
they want to choose the right one.

1414
01:00:11,732 --> 01:00:13,273
They say, which is the plain one,

1415
01:00:13,273 --> 01:00:16,849
which is the plain white one. And your
iPhone can tell you it's the one on the
left.

1416
01:00:16,849 --> 01:00:18,905
It's the one on the right. Or where's my
keys?

1417
01:00:18,905 --> 01:00:21,556
So like, that's really cool. This seems
like,

1418
01:00:21,556 --> 01:00:24,057
yeah, great use of AI. Like let it be able
to...

1419
01:00:24,475 --> 01:00:26,376
talk to people, explain what's going on.

1420
01:00:26,376 --> 01:00:29,247
There's even ~ the natural language input,

1421
01:00:29,247 --> 01:00:31,458
is interesting. And there was some posts
on social media of like,

1422
01:00:31,458 --> 01:00:33,559
is this an agent on the iPhone?

1423
01:00:33,559 --> 01:00:36,060
And basically what it is is voice control,

1424
01:00:36,060 --> 01:00:39,021
which you can, voice controls exist for a
long time.

1425
01:00:39,021 --> 01:00:41,262
You can talk to your Mac, you can talk to
your iPhone,

1426
01:00:41,262 --> 01:00:44,643
but that the voice control in iOS 27 using
Apple intelligence,

1427
01:00:44,643 --> 01:00:49,695
you can tell your iPhone, tap on the
orange folder or tap

1428
01:00:49,695 --> 01:00:53,407
on the beach keynote. And it will
literally,

1429
01:00:53,809 --> 01:00:57,102
take action on the screen for you without
you touching the screen

1430
01:00:57,382 --> 01:00:59,965
and just using voice control to control
your phone.

1431
01:00:59,965 --> 01:01:01,886
And Apple intelligence taking that even
further.

1432
01:01:01,886 --> 01:01:03,698
Navigating apps and experiences.

1433
01:01:03,698 --> 01:01:04,698
And a lot of people were like,

1434
01:01:04,509 --> 01:01:05,690
is that an agent? It's like, well,

1435
01:01:05,690 --> 01:01:11,335
technically, mean, yeah, if your phone can
use itself with your voice prompting,

1436
01:01:11,335 --> 01:01:15,128
it seems like it. But this is also very
different from even

1437
01:01:15,128 --> 01:01:17,130
the Gemini task automation that I talked
about earlier,

1438
01:01:17,130 --> 01:01:20,143
where I could tell it like, order me a
caramel macchiato upside down.

1439
01:01:20,444 --> 01:01:23,107
That's a lot of clicks and a lot of steps
it's going to go through

1440
01:01:23,128 --> 01:01:26,632
in the background. And this is seemingly
more like single command,

1441
01:01:26,632 --> 01:01:29,776
like open this, go to this. But we'll see.

1442
01:01:29,776 --> 01:01:32,281
Maybe that's a clue of what's coming with
iOS 27.

1443
01:01:32,795 --> 01:01:37,341
Yeah, and I would argue an agent is simply
a string of technologies.

1444
01:01:37,341 --> 01:01:41,216
And this is one of those technologies that
would also be found in an agent.

1445
01:01:41,216 --> 01:01:44,731
But in this case, it's an accessibility
feature because it's the human

1446
01:01:44,731 --> 01:01:46,473
who is directing it. It's not.

1447
01:01:46,473 --> 01:01:50,699
And it is directing actual steps as
opposed to directing the outcome.

1448
01:01:51,207 --> 01:01:55,787
That's a good distinction. They're also
bringing captions to

1449
01:01:55,787 --> 01:01:59,326
all basically videos taken on your iPhone
or sent to your iPhone.

1450
01:01:59,326 --> 01:02:02,527
So if you record a video or if a friend
texts you a video,

1451
01:02:02,527 --> 01:02:04,947
there can be captions on there
automatically.

1452
01:02:04,947 --> 01:02:06,907
So that's a great new feature,

1453
01:02:06,907 --> 01:02:13,587
iOS 27. And an amazing demo, Apple Vision
Pro is going to work with power wheelchair

1454
01:02:13,587 --> 01:02:17,547
control. So someone can literally use
their wheelchair by looking

1455
01:02:17,547 --> 01:02:19,967
at controls in Vision Pro.

1456
01:02:20,441 --> 01:02:21,982
and be able to like move to the left,

1457
01:02:21,982 --> 01:02:23,113
move forward, move to the right,

1458
01:02:23,113 --> 01:02:25,414
and like omni-directional control.

1459
01:02:25,414 --> 01:02:29,517
This is really cool. I will say,

1460
01:02:29,517 --> 01:02:32,019
I've used my Vision Pro a few times in the
last week,

1461
01:02:32,019 --> 01:02:36,182
and sometimes the eye tracking is not
super precise,

1462
01:02:36,182 --> 01:02:39,264
so I'm like, this has to be spot on,

1463
01:02:39,264 --> 01:02:43,167
because you can't have a motorized
wheelchair like going off a ramp

1464
01:02:43,569 --> 01:02:44,569
Sure.

1465
01:02:44,068 --> 01:02:47,610
or doing whatever, but it is good.

1466
01:02:47,610 --> 01:02:48,891
We'll see, maybe...

1467
01:02:49,307 --> 01:02:52,179
Vision OS 27 will like heighten the
accuracy even more.

1468
01:02:52,179 --> 01:02:56,343
Maybe there's like settings for ~ like
blink to move or whatever,

1469
01:02:56,343 --> 01:02:58,995
but I thought that it's really cool
connected to a wheelchair.

1470
01:02:58,995 --> 01:03:04,227
Yeah, that's fun. And last rumor about iOS
27,

1471
01:02:59,419 --> 01:03:00,419
Yeah, I agree.

1472
01:03:04,227 --> 01:03:08,673
Mark Gurman over at Bloomberg was saying
that shortcuts will be able to

1473
01:03:08,673 --> 01:03:12,286
be made by themselves with Apple
intelligence and iOS 27.

1474
01:03:12,286 --> 01:03:14,768
So you'll be able to open the shortcuts
app and say,

1475
01:03:14,768 --> 01:03:17,850
make me a shortcut that does this and it's
just going to do it.

1476
01:03:17,850 --> 01:03:18,871
And listen.

1477
01:03:19,195 --> 01:03:21,501
Maybe I'm out of a job, Jason.

1478
01:03:21,501 --> 01:03:23,437
Maybe this is it. This is the end.

1479
01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:25,502
I don't think this is the end.

1480
01:03:25,502 --> 01:03:27,916
I think that just every video is gonna be,

1481
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:26,840
Thank you.

1482
01:03:27,916 --> 01:03:30,691
yeah, tell Siri, stop texting me.

1483
01:03:30,010 --> 01:03:31,010
Well.

1484
01:03:30,691 --> 01:03:33,175
Jason, stop texting me about shortcuts
that you need.

1485
01:03:33,175 --> 01:03:34,858
Just, it'll do it for you.

1486
01:03:34,003 --> 01:03:35,594
Just as well

1487
01:03:35,594 --> 01:03:38,286
and here's I did a little short on it,

1488
01:03:38,286 --> 01:03:43,609
but my my thought is I There's actually an
app right now called shortcut studio

1489
01:03:43,609 --> 01:03:47,072
I did a video on it last weekend and it is
literally an app that

1490
01:03:47,072 --> 01:03:51,965
can build shortcuts for you, which is
really cool and it does

1491
01:03:51,965 --> 01:03:58,180
a decent job but I'll put a link to my
video and then shortcut so it's

1492
01:03:58,180 --> 01:04:01,052
a free to download you can build like
three shortcuts a day for free and

1493
01:04:01,052 --> 01:04:02,052
you have to pay for

1494
01:04:02,490 --> 01:04:05,292
But what I have found is with some simple
requests,

1495
01:04:05,292 --> 01:04:08,645
it nails it. And I imagine Apple
Intelligence and shortcuts,

1496
01:04:08,645 --> 01:04:14,019
if you ask it something like, give me a
report of my events for today and send

1497
01:04:14,019 --> 01:04:17,842
it to me in a text message, check my
calendar events and go for it.

1498
01:04:17,842 --> 01:04:20,485
Like the shortcut studio app could do that
today.

1499
01:04:20,485 --> 01:04:24,089
And that's using like AIs and LLMs in the
background to make the shortcut

1500
01:04:24,089 --> 01:04:26,630
and you could download it. I'm sure Apple
Intelligence will able to do that.

1501
01:04:26,630 --> 01:04:28,751
If I ask Apple Intelligence and iOS 27,

1502
01:04:28,751 --> 01:04:31,894
hey, make me a shortcut that uses the
movie database API.

1503
01:04:32,198 --> 01:04:34,058
so can search for a movie or TV show,

1504
01:04:34,058 --> 01:04:36,698
pull the poster image, where to stream it,

1505
01:04:36,698 --> 01:04:38,198
and put all of that in an Apple Note,

1506
01:04:38,198 --> 01:04:44,138
I doubt it can do that. And only because I
did some of those more complex tasks

1507
01:04:44,138 --> 01:04:46,678
in my video, and I won't spoil it,

1508
01:04:46,678 --> 01:04:53,678
but AI is still not super precise at
connecting variables and shortcuts,

1509
01:04:53,678 --> 01:04:57,618
or being able to, once you get to longer
tasks,

1510
01:04:57,618 --> 01:04:58,898
it kind of loses the plot.

1511
01:04:59,100 --> 01:05:00,100
Yeah.

1512
01:04:59,339 --> 01:05:00,339
Sometimes

1513
01:04:59,869 --> 01:05:03,660
doesn't pull from previous actions
properly so maybe Apple's

1514
01:05:03,700 --> 01:05:07,201
own Apple intelligence will do that better
Hopefully because it's actually Apple's

1515
01:05:07,581 --> 01:05:12,202
on-device LLM doing that but I think it
will be great for simpler shortcuts

1516
01:05:12,402 --> 01:05:15,833
I think more complex shortcuts remains to
be seen but listen I'll be

1517
01:05:15,833 --> 01:05:20,434
in my hotel room Monday night of WWDC
Shouting at my phone to build shortcuts

1518
01:05:20,434 --> 01:05:24,135
all night, and you better believe that's
gonna be on a video So maybe I'll

1519
01:05:24,135 --> 01:05:28,102
do a live stream who knows but we'll see
that should be coming iOS 27

1520
01:05:29,158 --> 01:05:31,728
~ Sports ball. Do you use the Apple Sports
app?

1521
01:05:31,728 --> 01:05:32,728
I forget.

1522
01:05:32,907 --> 01:05:35,290
I will look at it sometimes, especially
when I want.

1523
01:05:35,290 --> 01:05:38,695
The main reason is I'm like, I think
there's a game today of something.

1524
01:05:38,695 --> 01:05:41,660
I'll just open it because it's easier than
Googling it.

1525
01:05:38,864 --> 01:05:39,864
Right.

1526
01:05:41,660 --> 01:05:44,605
It is. It's just like, I know it'll be in
there.

1527
01:05:43,771 --> 01:05:45,091
I know yeah,

1528
01:05:44,605 --> 01:05:45,605
I'll just open that.

1529
01:05:45,571 --> 01:05:50,093
yeah, it's now available in more than 90
additional countries Including

1530
01:05:50,093 --> 01:05:52,124
so our listeners in Australia,

1531
01:05:52,124 --> 01:05:54,565
New Zealand, Japan, India. Someone's
India,

1532
01:05:54,565 --> 01:05:58,167
too I forgot to give him a shout out
someone to India as well But it's
available

1533
01:05:58,167 --> 01:06:01,078
in 90 more countries and speaking of
sports.

1534
01:06:01,078 --> 01:06:05,920
There's actually a new Apple vision Pro
Documentary about Real Madrid

1535
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:09,221
and Apple vision Pro the embargo drops
today Wednesday,

1536
01:06:09,221 --> 01:06:11,332
so that I should be good to talk about it
But I did watch it

1537
01:06:11,854 --> 01:06:13,507
in Applevision Pro and it's, you know,

1538
01:06:13,507 --> 01:06:16,263
one of the things about the immersive
video,

1539
01:06:16,263 --> 01:06:19,149
and I think this could be like the future.

1540
01:06:19,149 --> 01:06:21,514
Did you listen to the Adam Lissagor talk
show with John Gruber?

1541
01:06:21,764 --> 01:06:22,908
I didn't get to the whole thing.

1542
01:06:23,718 --> 01:06:26,218
It was a really fun episode, a lot about
vibe coding,

1543
01:06:26,218 --> 01:06:29,658
but Adam Lisagor, who's been a guest on
this show actually in the past,

1544
01:06:29,658 --> 01:06:32,758
of Sandwich Video, he talked about,

1545
01:06:32,758 --> 01:06:35,458
you know, he's very bullish on immersive
video,

1546
01:06:35,458 --> 01:06:37,698
and that being like the next frontier in
entertainment,

1547
01:06:37,698 --> 01:06:41,818
and whether that shakes out to be true or
not,

1548
01:06:41,818 --> 01:06:45,278
I do find that the immersive video in
Apple Vision Pro,

1549
01:06:45,278 --> 01:06:49,598
it makes me super invested in whatever it
is,

1550
01:06:49,598 --> 01:06:51,998
even if I didn't have that much interest
in it before.

1551
01:06:52,698 --> 01:06:56,681
Like there's like the two episode dog show
thing in Applevision Pro.

1552
01:06:56,681 --> 01:06:59,163
I've never watched a dog show.

1553
01:06:59,163 --> 01:07:00,445
I didn't know any of the terms.

1554
01:07:00,445 --> 01:07:03,287
I would not care otherwise. But man,

1555
01:07:03,287 --> 01:07:05,109
watching those two episodes, like I was in
it.

1556
01:07:05,109 --> 01:07:06,890
And I was like super invested.

1557
01:07:06,890 --> 01:07:10,533
And one is the storytelling and the Apple
Studios making this content.

1558
01:07:10,533 --> 01:07:12,715
But also in this Real Madrid documentary,

1559
01:07:12,715 --> 01:07:16,378
I'm semi familiar. I know Cristiano
Ronaldo.

1560
01:07:16,378 --> 01:07:19,341
I know Lionel Messi. Like I know some
names.

1561
01:07:19,341 --> 01:07:20,772
I know about football.

1562
01:07:21,319 --> 01:07:22,419
But man, watching this documentary,

1563
01:07:22,419 --> 01:07:26,959
was like super invested. And the time
always flies by when I watch

1564
01:07:26,959 --> 01:07:29,059
an Apple immersive video. And I talked
about two of them last week,

1565
01:07:29,059 --> 01:07:31,199
the New York and the Switzerland one.

1566
01:07:31,199 --> 01:07:33,639
And so it's really good. So if have an
Apple Vision Pro,

1567
01:07:33,639 --> 01:07:35,879
I would encourage you to watch the Real
Madrid one.

1568
01:07:35,879 --> 01:07:39,419
And I hope there is more immersive
content.

1569
01:07:39,419 --> 01:07:42,599
And Adam Lisagor on the talk show says
like,

1570
01:07:42,599 --> 01:07:44,339
there's basically a few people out there,

1571
01:07:44,339 --> 01:07:47,819
like literally a handful, making immersive
content that has

1572
01:07:47,819 --> 01:07:50,890
the Blackmagic immersive camera and trying
to do it.

1573
01:07:51,046 --> 01:07:52,488
There's not a great way to distribute it.

1574
01:07:52,488 --> 01:07:55,311
That's one of reasons why he made the app
called Theater on Vision Pro,

1575
01:07:55,311 --> 01:07:58,234
so you can watch some of that third party
immersive content.

1576
01:07:58,234 --> 01:08:01,418
But yeah, it's still fun. Strap it on and
watch some.

1577
01:08:01,942 --> 01:08:04,569
The New York was part of the Elevate
series,

1578
01:08:04,569 --> 01:08:08,750
and I hated it. With a passion,

1579
01:08:04,794 --> 01:08:07,924
Thank you, Elevate. What?

1580
01:08:07,924 --> 01:08:09,590
Wait, wait, whoa, whoa,

1581
01:08:08,750 --> 01:08:09,750
Stephen.

1582
01:08:09,590 --> 01:08:10,884
whoa, why did you hate it?

1583
01:08:13,132 --> 01:08:17,165
This is not what people want, but this is
what Apple thinks people want.

1584
01:08:17,165 --> 01:08:21,139
What people want is to put on the Vision
Pro and feel like they're in

1585
01:08:21,139 --> 01:08:24,792
New York City and be able to determine
that.

1586
01:08:22,842 --> 01:08:23,842
Yeah.

1587
01:08:24,792 --> 01:08:28,245
I don't want to a movie flying over New
York City and flying through walking
through

1588
01:08:28,245 --> 01:08:30,968
some streets and then cutting to something
else and then going to this.

1589
01:08:30,394 --> 01:08:31,394
~

1590
01:08:30,968 --> 01:08:33,139
And then you go to the guy who's like on
the bike and then you go

1591
01:08:33,139 --> 01:08:34,522
to this other place and then you do.

1592
01:08:33,478 --> 01:08:34,478
Yeah.

1593
01:08:34,522 --> 01:08:36,903
I don't want that, Steven. What I want is
to be like,

1594
01:08:36,903 --> 01:08:39,045
a location. I want Street View,

1595
01:08:39,045 --> 01:08:40,496
but immersive.

1596
01:08:40,934 --> 01:08:46,374
and I can just like choose like 12
different different spots around the it's
kind

1597
01:08:46,374 --> 01:08:49,134
of like the NBA games. People don't want
you to cut them.

1598
01:08:49,134 --> 01:08:51,974
They just want to sit in a seat and
experience what's happening.

1599
01:08:51,974 --> 01:08:55,354
And with the New York City, I just let me
stand in Times Square.

1600
01:08:52,326 --> 01:08:53,326
Yeah.

1601
01:08:55,354 --> 01:08:57,914
Let me move forward or backward.

1602
01:08:57,914 --> 01:08:59,894
Let me do that's what people really want.

1603
01:08:59,894 --> 01:09:01,894
And that's what immersive means.

1604
01:09:01,894 --> 01:09:03,354
Immersive doesn't mean

1605
01:09:04,037 --> 01:09:07,198
we just made a movie, but we just did it
with these different cameras

1606
01:09:07,198 --> 01:09:09,048
and we still control all the stuff.

1607
01:09:09,048 --> 01:09:10,609
Cause I'm like, ~ that was cool.

1608
01:09:10,609 --> 01:09:12,019
And then I have to back up and be like,

1609
01:09:12,019 --> 01:09:15,700
I'm walking. It didn't feel like New York
city to me because of that.

1610
01:09:15,700 --> 01:09:16,720
And I've been in New York city.

1611
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:22,051
I know you're from New York. I've been to
New York city probably 50 times because

1612
01:09:21,712 --> 01:09:23,722
Sure, sure, Yeah, yeah.

1613
01:09:22,051 --> 01:09:24,632
of like for work. I've been there a whole
lot of times,

1614
01:09:24,632 --> 01:09:26,923
probably more than most people who don't
live there.

1615
01:09:26,923 --> 01:09:31,034
Like it, right. I'm very familiar with New
York city and I love New York city.

1616
01:09:28,431 --> 01:09:29,482
Sure, sure.

1617
01:09:31,034 --> 01:09:32,554
It's one of my favorite places on earth.

1618
01:09:32,674 --> 01:09:34,915
If we didn't have children, maybe we'd
live there.

1619
01:09:34,915 --> 01:09:37,578
I don't know. I did not like it at all.

1620
01:09:38,723 --> 01:09:41,514
That's wild. Well, I will just heartily
disagree.

1621
01:09:41,514 --> 01:09:42,765
I mean, it's a subjective thing,

1622
01:09:42,765 --> 01:09:46,556
but I thought if you had never been to New
York,

1623
01:09:46,556 --> 01:09:51,599
it provides like one with all this
immersive content.

1624
01:09:51,599 --> 01:09:53,980
None of it is long enough. You know,

1625
01:09:53,980 --> 01:09:55,953
it's all like short in the New York City
one.

1626
01:09:55,953 --> 01:09:57,381
I think it's like eight minutes or
something.

1627
01:09:57,381 --> 01:09:59,582
And so like, what do you do in eight
minutes?

1628
01:09:59,582 --> 01:10:03,074
And you know, the other elevated series,

1629
01:10:03,074 --> 01:10:05,185
there's like narration and there's
explanation.

1630
01:10:05,605 --> 01:10:08,785
And I love that New York City was just the
sights and sounds of the city.

1631
01:10:08,785 --> 01:10:14,765
And so I totally get like someone might
just want to like stand in Times Square

1632
01:10:14,765 --> 01:10:18,785
for 30 seconds or a minute. I want Mr.

1633
01:10:16,474 --> 01:10:17,675
or walk through Central Park.

1634
01:10:18,785 --> 01:10:22,045
Park and like that would be a cool like
app,

1635
01:10:22,045 --> 01:10:23,985
you know, like choose your venue,

1636
01:10:23,985 --> 01:10:26,925
Times Square, Central Park, Soho,

1637
01:10:26,925 --> 01:10:31,245
Chinatown, and just like staying on the
streets corner and then like Google street

1638
01:10:31,245 --> 01:10:32,925
view, like tap another street corner.

1639
01:10:33,261 --> 01:10:36,604
Zoom over there and then feel like you're
just standing there And if

1640
01:10:36,604 --> 01:10:39,437
it was like live like that would be
awesome like that'd be a cool vision

1641
01:10:39,437 --> 01:10:43,250
pro idea like let me Be in new york city
right now as it's happening

1642
01:10:43,711 --> 01:10:48,025
And again adam lisagor did live video in
immersive for the talk show

1643
01:10:48,025 --> 01:10:49,826
two years ago So that's probably
happening,

1644
01:10:49,826 --> 01:10:52,939
but I will have to disagree. I enjoyed it.

1645
01:10:52,939 --> 01:10:54,401
I'm sorry. didn't enjoy it

1646
01:10:55,512 --> 01:10:57,352
I just care more about New York City than
you do.

1647
01:10:57,352 --> 01:10:58,377
That's clearly the answer.

1648
01:10:58,373 --> 01:10:59,373
that

1649
01:10:59,293 --> 01:11:04,489
though them fighting words first of all do
you even have you even had a knish

1650
01:11:05,915 --> 01:11:11,693
You just made up those words. Is is a a
can ish the thing that the

1651
01:11:08,047 --> 01:11:09,962
See? Everyone who's listening,

1652
01:11:09,962 --> 01:11:10,962
who knows?

1653
01:11:11,693 --> 01:11:13,296
AI delivered when you ordered a canoe?

1654
01:11:14,692 --> 01:11:18,864
The fact that, okay, see I can rest my
case because everyone listening

1655
01:11:19,165 --> 01:11:20,465
who loves New York as much as I do,

1656
01:11:20,465 --> 01:11:22,687
they know what's up. They know what a
Knish is.

1657
01:11:22,687 --> 01:11:26,029
They've bought it from the guy on the side
of the street and they know,

1658
01:11:26,029 --> 01:11:27,029
they know.

1659
01:11:26,669 --> 01:11:29,240
No, the reason I've never had a condition
is I don't like mashed potatoes.

1660
01:11:31,823 --> 01:11:34,438
See, I feel so confident right now that
people,

1661
01:11:34,438 --> 01:11:37,103
they're gonna, listen, don't leave us a
one-star review for what Jason said.

1662
01:11:37,103 --> 01:11:40,901
Leave a five-star review and tell me the
corner on New York City where

1663
01:11:40,901 --> 01:11:43,807
you got your favorite knish. We'll shout
out everyone in the next show.

1664
01:11:43,609 --> 01:11:44,609
The all

1665
01:11:43,990 --> 01:11:45,852
I've had one from Katz's deli,

1666
01:11:45,852 --> 01:11:51,521
which is fine, but I'm just saying I'm
just I've eaten a lot of listen,

1667
01:11:47,672 --> 01:11:48,672
That's fine.

1668
01:11:51,521 --> 01:11:54,306
New York City street food and I we go back
quite a ways.

1669
01:11:54,306 --> 01:11:57,631
No, I'm serious. Like there's listen,

1670
01:11:54,527 --> 01:11:59,121
We go back. We go back. Yeah, yeah.

1671
01:11:57,631 --> 01:11:58,652
but you know.

1672
01:11:59,121 --> 01:12:01,523
Sobret— a Sobret hot dog. Dirty water
hot dog.

1673
01:12:01,523 --> 01:12:04,786
I need to— now I need to start another
podcast about New York.

1674
01:12:01,953 --> 01:12:02,953
Sure.

1675
01:12:04,786 --> 01:12:06,187
And just talk to people about New York.

1676
01:12:06,187 --> 01:12:08,309
I gotta start yet another podcast.

1677
01:12:08,309 --> 01:12:09,591
You just sent me breaking news,

1678
01:12:08,421 --> 01:12:10,475
All right. I did.

1679
01:12:09,591 --> 01:12:11,512
Jason. Breaking as we record. What just
happened?

1680
01:12:11,512 --> 01:12:14,735
James Murdoch buys half of Vox Media.

1681
01:12:14,735 --> 01:12:16,717
There it is.

1682
01:12:15,897 --> 01:12:17,051
He bought fox.com,

1683
01:12:17,051 --> 01:12:18,736
New York magazine and all the podcasts,

1684
01:12:18,736 --> 01:12:21,435
the podcast network, the verge will remain
independent.

1685
01:12:21,435 --> 01:12:23,030
So will Eater. I don't know what Eater is,

1686
01:12:23,030 --> 01:12:24,030
but.

1687
01:12:23,833 --> 01:12:26,399
The Virgil remain independent like they're
not part of this deal?

1688
01:12:25,529 --> 01:12:27,066
There's correct.

1689
01:12:26,399 --> 01:12:28,535
~ interesting.

1690
01:12:29,157 --> 01:12:30,848
So don't know what that means for those
companies,

1691
01:12:30,848 --> 01:12:35,980
but it's just we knew that this was this
was rumored that this might happen.

1692
01:12:31,607 --> 01:12:34,657
Okay. We talked about it,

1693
01:12:35,980 --> 01:12:39,071
But now we know what the podcast network,

1694
01:12:39,071 --> 01:12:40,602
Steven, this was the most interesting.

1695
01:12:40,602 --> 01:12:43,023
I actually read this while you were
talking about something that I don't
remember.

1696
01:12:43,023 --> 01:12:45,804
But the no, it was way before that.

1697
01:12:43,471 --> 01:12:44,784
Caniscious, caniscious.

1698
01:12:45,804 --> 01:12:47,765
This actually broke about 45 minutes ago.

1699
01:12:46,008 --> 01:12:51,482
OK. ~ The Google IOS stuff.

1700
01:12:47,765 --> 01:12:50,696
But we didn't have time to talk about it
in the middle of all the other things that

1701
01:12:50,696 --> 01:12:56,722
were happening. But ~ the podcast network
generated

1702
01:12:51,482 --> 01:12:52,482
OK, all right.

1703
01:12:56,722 --> 01:12:58,369
80 million dollars last year.

1704
01:12:59,993 --> 01:13:01,137
That's not bad for a podcast network.

1705
01:13:00,805 --> 01:13:02,745
That's incredibly good for a podcast
network.

1706
01:13:01,137 --> 01:13:02,775
Yeah.

1707
01:13:02,925 --> 01:13:05,865
I think there's a lot of podcast networks
that would love to make $80 million.

1708
01:13:06,438 --> 01:13:11,125
For sure and that's like waveform and can
be a G's podcast is on the Vox Network

1709
01:13:10,499 --> 01:13:11,652
the verge cast

1710
01:13:11,913 --> 01:13:13,436
pivot, all of those.

1711
01:13:13,379 --> 01:13:14,379
But

1712
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:15,874
does it is the verge cast part of this
deal then?

1713
01:13:16,462 --> 01:13:22,293
No, so the network is just a collect a
collective of buying

1714
01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:23,670
shows. Yeah, yeah,

1715
01:13:22,293 --> 01:13:27,885
up ads like but it's not the shows because
like MKB HD owns his show.

1716
01:13:27,885 --> 01:13:30,495
They just buy the ads and put them on
there.

1717
01:13:28,333 --> 01:13:30,870
Right, it's the, have, right, right,

1718
01:13:30,495 --> 01:13:33,436
That's the the put buying the ads and
putting them places is the thing that

1719
01:13:30,870 --> 01:13:31,870
right.

1720
01:13:33,436 --> 01:13:37,097
got bought not the shows like pivot Kara
Swisher and Scott Galloway

1721
01:13:35,502 --> 01:13:36,502
Right.

1722
01:13:37,097 --> 01:13:41,448
own that show right in the verge cast may
the verge cast will stay with

1723
01:13:38,158 --> 01:13:39,158
Right, right, right.

1724
01:13:41,448 --> 01:13:44,779
the verge I assume but they may still be a
part of the network which will

1725
01:13:44,779 --> 01:13:45,779
not just be a part of this other

1726
01:13:46,285 --> 01:13:47,759
Right, which you could always leave the
network,

1727
01:13:47,759 --> 01:13:49,153
but then it's a lot harder to get ads,

1728
01:13:49,153 --> 01:13:50,347
~ usually.

1729
01:13:49,189 --> 01:13:50,389
Right, and the

1730
01:13:50,389 --> 01:13:54,729
CEO, Jim Bankoff, is going to new company.

1731
01:13:55,464 --> 01:13:58,195
okay. Interesting. All right. That's
interesting.

1732
01:13:58,195 --> 01:14:00,842
Listen, if anyone wants to buy this
podcast for $300 million,

1733
01:13:58,359 --> 01:13:59,359
Interesting.

1734
01:14:00,842 --> 01:14:02,825
we're not selling. Well, no, we probably
would.

1735
01:14:03,161 --> 01:14:05,783
We will definitely sell for $300 million.

1736
01:14:05,733 --> 01:14:06,733
$300 million maybe.

1737
01:14:05,783 --> 01:14:09,526
I don't own any of this show, but I will.

1738
01:14:09,526 --> 01:14:14,890
Yeah, I'm just I'm just saying $300
million

1739
01:14:09,871 --> 01:14:11,361
Do I? The people own this show,

1740
01:14:11,361 --> 01:14:12,780
Jason. The people.

1741
01:14:15,071 --> 01:14:20,785
is slightly above the line. I'm not going
to tell you where the line is,

1742
01:14:16,037 --> 01:14:18,437
It's a lot of money. Slightly.

1743
01:14:18,437 --> 01:14:21,657
just just like it was three. Yeah.

1744
01:14:20,785 --> 01:14:22,927
but I will tell you 300 million is above
it.

1745
01:14:23,557 --> 01:14:26,117
335. I don't know. Might be under.

1746
01:14:26,117 --> 01:14:29,317
Also, if you want to own something like a
Plex lifetime pass,

1747
01:14:29,317 --> 01:14:33,837
that's now going to be $750. Listen,

1748
01:14:33,837 --> 01:14:36,357
Plex, we're going to talk about this in
the bonus episode.

1749
01:14:36,357 --> 01:14:40,797
I bought a Plex pass when it was $75
lifetime.

1750
01:14:40,797 --> 01:14:44,597
So I own Plex. But right now.

1751
01:14:44,771 --> 01:14:47,829
whole company onto it. Steven is the one
raising prices.

1752
01:14:46,161 --> 01:14:47,962
I own a That's

1753
01:14:47,962 --> 01:14:50,764
right plex lives on my son ology in a
closet.

1754
01:14:50,764 --> 01:14:53,725
It's 250 lifetime pass right now.

1755
01:14:53,725 --> 01:14:59,789
It's going up to $750 this summer and The
subscription stays

1756
01:14:59,789 --> 01:15:01,830
the same $7 per month $70 per year,

1757
01:15:01,830 --> 01:15:05,122
you know, I actually bought a bullhorn to
talk about pricing and subscriptions.

1758
01:15:05,122 --> 01:15:07,533
You see that Jason? You see my bullhorn

1759
01:15:06,661 --> 01:15:08,375
~ Yeah, because well

1760
01:15:08,375 --> 01:15:09,889
only because you yeah

1761
01:15:10,597 --> 01:15:13,117
I you know people when I did my widget
video on iPhone people

1762
01:15:13,117 --> 01:15:17,017
got upset because there were a lot of
subscriptions even though All

1763
01:15:17,017 --> 01:15:19,337
the widgets you could use for free except
for the tide guidance So I'm

1764
01:15:19,337 --> 01:15:23,177
now doing I'm now doing a bullhorn in
videos whenever I talk about pricing

1765
01:15:23,177 --> 01:15:28,437
and so for a plex It is still seven
dollars a month or seventy dollars

1766
01:15:28,437 --> 01:15:31,697
per year going up to seven hundred fifty
dollar lifetime purchase

1767
01:15:31,697 --> 01:15:33,160
I'm doing bullhorns now

1768
01:15:32,661 --> 01:15:33,661
So the bet

1769
01:15:33,485 --> 01:15:35,836
is that you're going to live more than 10
years.

1770
01:15:38,065 --> 01:15:42,047
I guess but all the reason why I to bring
that up is if you ever think

1771
01:15:42,047 --> 01:15:45,130
for a moment I'm gonna try and convince
Jason in the bonus episode that

1772
01:15:45,130 --> 01:15:49,092
you will want to use plex in the future
You should just buy the lifetime pass

1773
01:15:49,092 --> 01:15:51,394
now for 250 before you have to pay triple
that amount.

1774
01:15:51,394 --> 01:15:58,229
That's all I'm saying So there's that
there's that AI and Gen Z we talked about

1775
01:15:58,229 --> 01:16:03,792
it last week at length since then
ex-google CEO Eric Schmidt was booed

1776
01:16:03,792 --> 01:16:05,984
at a commencement like are you

1777
01:16:06,308 --> 01:16:10,808
CF example last week because he talked
about AI and so we will include that
article.

1778
01:16:10,808 --> 01:16:15,748
Graduating class not happy. We had a great
email from listener Andrew.

1779
01:16:15,748 --> 01:16:18,668
He's Gen Z, graduated in 2024,

1780
01:16:18,668 --> 01:16:22,968
so a couple years ago. And he basically
said,

1781
01:16:22,968 --> 01:16:24,988
I'm going to quote from his email.

1782
01:16:24,988 --> 01:16:27,608
Well, I shouldn't have started here,

1783
01:16:27,608 --> 01:16:29,828
but Jason nailed pretty much every point.

1784
01:16:29,828 --> 01:16:34,504
I didn't want to say that. I didn't want
to say that.

1785
01:16:31,149 --> 01:16:32,149
I love this email.

1786
01:16:35,010 --> 01:16:37,181
But this is now Andrew talking in email.

1787
01:16:37,181 --> 01:16:39,091
And he did say that. students,

1788
01:16:39,091 --> 01:16:41,652
me included, have anxiety whether we're
going to get a job or not,

1789
01:16:41,652 --> 01:16:43,242
or if AI is going to take everyone's jobs,

1790
01:16:43,242 --> 01:16:45,803
leaving us broke, homeless, and or unable
to survive.

1791
01:16:45,803 --> 01:16:47,463
He says he's a young professional,

1792
01:16:47,463 --> 01:16:49,414
and he uses AI. He said, like,

1793
01:16:49,414 --> 01:16:52,705
I use it, and my kids use it. He's
substitute for Google sometimes,

1794
01:16:52,705 --> 01:16:55,225
similar to search engines, everyday
questions.

1795
01:16:55,225 --> 01:16:59,427
But for someone who, like, he works in the
world of sales and customer service,

1796
01:16:59,427 --> 01:17:03,528
he has no use for AI outside of kind of
that general use or whatever.

1797
01:17:03,528 --> 01:17:04,648
~

1798
01:17:04,933 --> 01:17:07,733
Yeah, it's a little unsettling for someone
like him who just graduated

1799
01:17:07,733 --> 01:17:09,493
a couple years ago. So Andrew,

1800
01:17:09,493 --> 01:17:12,133
thank you for that email too. If you're
Gen Z,

1801
01:17:12,133 --> 01:17:15,533
if you graduated this year or soon to
graduate or recently did,

1802
01:17:15,533 --> 01:17:16,873
we'd love to hear from you too,

1803
01:17:16,873 --> 01:17:19,313
your feelings about AI. But yeah,

1804
01:17:19,313 --> 01:17:22,813
considering they're booing Eric Schmidt on
stage at a commencement

1805
01:17:22,813 --> 01:17:26,993
and this sentiment, does seem like the
younger generation is not as bullish

1806
01:17:26,993 --> 01:17:30,273
as AGI is the singularity or whatever.

1807
01:17:30,273 --> 01:17:33,093
So how do your kid, I mean, your kid,

1808
01:17:30,381 --> 01:17:31,381
Mm-hmm.

1809
01:17:33,093 --> 01:17:34,173
your daughter's graduating.

1810
01:17:35,149 --> 01:17:36,149
I mean...

1811
01:17:35,754 --> 01:17:37,375
We asked, I asked them live on the show,

1812
01:17:37,375 --> 01:17:40,038
remember? And they're basically like,

1813
01:17:37,932 --> 01:17:39,085
I know you have some live on the show,

1814
01:17:39,085 --> 01:17:40,085
like...

1815
01:17:40,038 --> 01:17:42,169
depends. And I'm like, that's super,

1816
01:17:41,700 --> 01:17:44,442
That's, have they been media trained,

1817
01:17:42,169 --> 01:17:47,574
that's super. I know that is super Gen Z
right there.

1818
01:17:44,442 --> 01:17:46,240
Jason? Did you give them media training?

1819
01:17:47,574 --> 01:17:49,696
I just depends. Don't worry about it.

1820
01:17:48,310 --> 01:17:50,251
It depends Don't

1821
01:17:50,251 --> 01:17:52,594
worry about it. Well, we would love to
hear from more We'll discuss more

1822
01:17:52,594 --> 01:17:56,037
at length when there's not 1 000 google
things to talk about but but keep writing

1823
01:17:56,037 --> 01:17:59,149
in Andrew Thank you for that email and
last piece of news before we

1824
01:17:59,149 --> 01:18:02,382
get to personal tech We have to mention
the case between elon musk

1825
01:18:02,382 --> 01:18:07,056
and sam altman elon lost He lost the case
the

1826
01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:07,091
Yeah. We knew this

1827
01:18:07,091 --> 01:18:10,173
was gonna happen. No one, I don't even
think Elon Musk thought that

1828
01:18:10,173 --> 01:18:12,524
he was gonna win. No, really, like,

1829
01:18:11,684 --> 01:18:13,424
Yeah.

1830
01:18:12,524 --> 01:18:15,026
but the best part, there's two things that
are good about this.

1831
01:18:15,026 --> 01:18:18,047
One, well,

1832
01:18:18,047 --> 01:18:19,648
no, there's one thing that's good and one
thing that's bad.

1833
01:18:19,648 --> 01:18:24,331
The thing that's good is I think that
there is a perception that,

1834
01:18:24,331 --> 01:18:26,302
and there's a reasonable reason for this,

1835
01:18:26,302 --> 01:18:29,284
that if you just have enough money and
enough force of personality,

1836
01:18:29,284 --> 01:18:31,155
you can just bully your way through
anything.

1837
01:18:31,155 --> 01:18:33,326
And this outcome is...

1838
01:18:33,808 --> 01:18:36,769
is shows that that's not that's not that's
not true.

1839
01:18:36,769 --> 01:18:43,452
I don't think it should be a like the fact
that Elon Musk should have lost this

1840
01:18:44,133 --> 01:18:48,395
is in no way an endorsement of anything
Sam Altman has ever done.

1841
01:18:48,395 --> 01:18:49,775
I just want to be clear. Okay.

1842
01:18:48,706 --> 01:18:49,824
Right, right, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1843
01:18:49,775 --> 01:18:50,796
Just wanted to be clear about that.

1844
01:18:50,796 --> 01:18:56,138
The bad thing about this is that he lost
on essentially a technicality.

1845
01:18:56,138 --> 01:18:59,219
So they did not in court. This is the way
courts work.

1846
01:18:56,611 --> 01:18:57,611
Red.

1847
01:18:59,219 --> 01:19:00,450
If

1848
01:19:00,705 --> 01:19:03,828
If you lose on it, if you can lose on a
technicality,

1849
01:19:03,828 --> 01:19:09,052
then they don't actually decide on the
actual facts or the law.

1850
01:19:09,052 --> 01:19:14,076
Essentially what the jury decided is that
Elon Musk waited too long

1851
01:19:14,156 --> 01:19:17,128
to file this lawsuit based on what he was
saying happened.

1852
01:19:17,128 --> 01:19:21,242
They did not decide whether the thing he
said happened happened or not.

1853
01:19:21,242 --> 01:19:24,224
I wish that they would have, but I
understand why they didn't.

1854
01:19:24,224 --> 01:19:25,385
I wish they would have been like,

1855
01:19:25,385 --> 01:19:28,668
shove it, you're wrong. But what they said
is,

1856
01:19:28,952 --> 01:19:30,557
We're not gonna decide if you're right or
wrong.

1857
01:19:30,557 --> 01:19:32,684
doesn't matter. It's too late for us to
make that.

1858
01:19:32,684 --> 01:19:33,768
You waited too long.

1859
01:19:34,276 --> 01:19:38,311
Statue of limitations seems like an
anticlimactic end to a case like this.

1860
01:19:38,311 --> 01:19:41,575
That seemed pretty large. And in the New
York Times article I'll include,

1861
01:19:41,575 --> 01:19:44,248
the jury deliberated for less than two
hours.

1862
01:19:44,248 --> 01:19:50,716
Like, 12 angry men deliberated more in
their movie than the jury in this.

1863
01:19:48,002 --> 01:19:49,409
You're right.

1864
01:19:50,716 --> 01:19:53,079
But yeah, it's court, case is over.

1865
01:19:53,079 --> 01:19:54,080
~ He lost.

1866
01:19:53,548 --> 01:19:54,548
You couldn't have even

1867
01:19:54,300 --> 01:19:57,699
watched 12 Angry Men in the amount of time
that they spent deliberating.

1868
01:19:58,020 --> 01:20:03,660
That is true. That is true. All right
personal tech air pods Pro 3

1869
01:20:04,206 --> 01:20:07,048
I There have not been third-party tips
available for a little while.

1870
01:20:07,048 --> 01:20:12,313
I've been using the stock tips They've
been better than air pods Pro 2 for me.

1871
01:20:12,313 --> 01:20:16,397
They stayed in my ear better They didn't
fall out as much when I

1872
01:20:16,397 --> 01:20:19,719
was walking around grocery shopping as I
do think the tips on the three

1873
01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:24,223
Pro 3 are improved over the Pro 2 How's
your been experienced with the Pro 3 tips?

1874
01:20:25,629 --> 01:20:28,550
I have never had a problem with any air
pod tips ever.

1875
01:20:28,386 --> 01:20:29,386
Never falling out?

1876
01:20:28,550 --> 01:20:34,631
I had I've had an air pod fall

1877
01:20:34,631 --> 01:20:36,856
out once and happened this week.

1878
01:20:36,856 --> 01:20:39,929
And it's because we put sod in our graph.

1879
01:20:39,929 --> 01:20:42,240
We we laid some side down getting ready
for an open house.

1880
01:20:42,240 --> 01:20:45,302
So you have to walk a slightly different
path in our backyard to get to

1881
01:20:45,302 --> 01:20:49,145
the gate to get out. And we have ~
actually I think it's a well,

1882
01:20:49,145 --> 01:20:50,947
the scientific name is Florida,

1883
01:20:50,947 --> 01:20:52,428
but it's like a dogwood tree or whatever.

1884
01:20:52,653 --> 01:20:53,653
Okay.

1885
01:20:53,209 --> 01:20:57,088
and a flowering dogwood and I walked too
close to it and one of

1886
01:20:57,088 --> 01:20:58,764
the branches just pulled my air pod right
out.

1887
01:20:58,764 --> 01:21:01,652
That's literally the only time I've ever
had an air pod fall out.

1888
01:20:59,086 --> 01:21:00,086
well that's yes.

1889
01:21:01,910 --> 01:21:04,535
You never feel it loosen like if you're
like smiling a lot.

1890
01:21:04,588 --> 01:21:06,755
No, but I think about it every time I go
to the bathroom and still have

1891
01:21:06,755 --> 01:21:07,755
an AirPod in.

1892
01:21:07,426 --> 01:21:09,497
Well, that is yeah, I do become aware

1893
01:21:09,898 --> 01:21:13,708
So the comply tips came out recently and
I've used comply tips for all

1894
01:21:13,708 --> 01:21:16,824
of my past airpods pro and those have been
great I got them for the three.

1895
01:21:16,824 --> 01:21:21,768
They're still great. They're much more
foamy than the stock

1896
01:21:21,768 --> 01:21:28,423
pro tips and The foaminess as people have
reported can Get kind of after

1897
01:21:28,423 --> 01:21:31,686
a long time, you know I use mine for about
a year and then I want

1898
01:21:31,686 --> 01:21:34,547
to get another pair because they're they
get a little nasty the camera's

1899
01:21:34,547 --> 01:21:36,740
not gonna be able to see it but ~ but

1900
01:21:36,280 --> 01:21:37,280
Thank goodness.

1901
01:21:37,508 --> 01:21:41,508
Right, so it'll be good but a lot of
people and apparently Christopher loyal
Lolly

1902
01:21:41,508 --> 01:21:46,828
mentioned these to the charge in Chargen
which you can't get on Amazon this

1903
01:21:46,828 --> 01:21:50,208
you have to buy directly from charge and a
lot of people said these tips

1904
01:21:50,208 --> 01:21:55,308
are even better than the comply tips and
these are kind of more of their hybrid

1905
01:21:55,308 --> 01:22:00,608
II whereas the comply tips are basically
all foam the charge in tips It's

1906
01:22:00,608 --> 01:22:04,928
got foam and then it kind of has an outer
layer some

1907
01:22:05,476 --> 01:22:09,696
new texture whatever a silicone shield so
it's supposedly going to both stay

1908
01:22:09,696 --> 01:22:15,436
in your ear and protect the phone from
getting nasty after a while and it also

1909
01:22:15,436 --> 01:22:18,836
has a little speaker grill over the thing
as opposed to being totally open

1910
01:22:18,836 --> 01:22:22,736
the comply tips are totally open and these
do have a speaker grill

1911
01:22:22,736 --> 01:22:27,256
in practice I've not noticed a huge
difference in sound quality because

1912
01:22:27,256 --> 01:22:31,656
the speaker grill which is fine but
comfort they're very comfortable I've been

1913
01:22:31,656 --> 01:22:32,796
wearing in the last few days

1914
01:22:33,154 --> 01:22:37,766
you know how dirty they get over time i
have to report back i do feel like

1915
01:22:38,787 --> 01:22:44,689
it doesn't provide as tight of a seal as
the comply like

1916
01:22:44,689 --> 01:22:48,271
the comply tips when they expand in my ear
they're like rock solid

1917
01:22:48,631 --> 01:22:51,692
and these are good they're solid they've
not fallen out i need

1918
01:22:51,692 --> 01:22:55,054
to go grocery shopping with them that's my
true test that's always how i test

1919
01:22:55,054 --> 01:22:59,696
my my headphones and i will test the noise
canceling and all of that they're very

1920
01:22:59,696 --> 01:23:00,696
comfortable though

1921
01:23:00,622 --> 01:23:03,074
They're more secure than the stock tips I
have found.

1922
01:23:03,074 --> 01:23:06,376
And ~ that extra layer might help them
stay cleaner.

1923
01:23:06,376 --> 01:23:09,178
They do take a second more to expand.

1924
01:23:09,178 --> 01:23:12,340
The comply foam tips, when you squeeze
them,

1925
01:23:12,340 --> 01:23:14,542
they pretty much expand instantly.

1926
01:23:14,542 --> 01:23:19,105
You don't really have to wait for them to
fill your ear.

1927
01:23:19,105 --> 01:23:20,406
Let me just try it real quick.

1928
01:23:20,406 --> 01:23:22,958
No, they take a while to expand.

1929
01:23:22,958 --> 01:23:23,958
If you squeeze it hard enough,

1930
01:23:23,949 --> 01:23:25,950
they'll squish down and expand.

1931
01:23:25,950 --> 01:23:27,021
The charge in.

1932
01:23:28,099 --> 01:23:31,159
It's about the same, know, it'll it'll
expand for a few seconds So you

1933
01:23:31,159 --> 01:23:33,599
do kind of have to hold it in your ear for
a second If you want it

1934
01:23:33,599 --> 01:23:37,079
to expand in place rather than just kind
of and you can just try to shove them

1935
01:23:37,079 --> 01:23:39,279
in there But I like to squeeze them a
little bit before I put them in.

1936
01:23:39,279 --> 01:23:41,359
Anyway, they sound good. They feel good.

1937
01:23:41,359 --> 01:23:44,499
They're comfortable I'll report back once
I've tested them for more than

1938
01:23:44,499 --> 01:23:47,819
a couple days, but they're a great
alternative There are a little pricey like

1939
01:23:47,819 --> 01:23:51,219
40 bucks. You do get three pairs in the
box,

1940
01:23:51,219 --> 01:23:56,119
but the charging air foams Pro they've
been pretty good and so I'll report back
with

1941
01:23:56,119 --> 01:23:57,447
a more thorough review, but

1942
01:23:57,613 --> 01:23:58,909
But I do like them, I'll be trying them.

1943
01:23:59,330 --> 01:24:00,598
Nice. I'm not going to try them,

1944
01:24:00,598 --> 01:24:01,795
but I'm glad you are happy.

1945
01:24:02,579 --> 01:24:05,019
Listen everybody's ears are different
Jason everybody's ears

1946
01:24:05,019 --> 01:24:08,619
are different sometimes. You know you need
the extra tips so all right

1947
01:24:08,619 --> 01:24:13,179
I'm going to go try and convince Jason to
buy planks And so if you want

1948
01:24:13,179 --> 01:24:16,739
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1949
01:24:16,739 --> 01:24:19,419
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1950
01:24:19,419 --> 01:24:21,899
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1951
01:24:21,899 --> 01:24:25,759
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1952
01:24:25,759 --> 01:24:27,779
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1953
01:24:28,119 --> 01:24:29,889
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1954
01:24:29,889 --> 01:24:30,889
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1955
01:24:30,850 --> 01:24:33,871
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1956
01:24:33,871 --> 01:24:38,042
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1957
01:24:38,042 --> 01:24:41,283
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1958
01:24:41,283 --> 01:24:42,403
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1959
01:24:42,403 --> 01:24:46,671
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1960
01:24:46,671 --> 01:24:49,675
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1961
01:24:49,675 --> 01:24:52,966
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1962
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1963
01:24:56,413 --> 01:24:57,413
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