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Rupert Isaacson: Welcome
to Equine Assisted World.

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I'm your host, Rupert Isaacson.

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New York Times bestselling
author of the Horse Boy.

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Founder of New Trails Learning
Systems and long ride home.com.

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You can find details of all our programs
and shows on Rupert isaacson.com.

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Here on Equine Assisted World.

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We look at the cutting edge and the best
practices currently being developed and,

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established in the equine assisted field.

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This can be psychological, this
can be neuropsych, this can be

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physical, this can be all of the
conditions that human beings have.

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These lovely equines, these beautiful
horses that we work with, help us with.

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Thank you for being part of the adventure
and we hope you enjoy today's show

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Welcome back to Equine Assisted World.

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I've got Shay Stewart.

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Shay Stewart if you listened to her
podcast that I did with her over

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on Live Free, Ride Free, that's
our other podcast, you'll know that

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she's somebody who knows an awful lot
about things that we often don't know

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about, like fascia and mitochondria.

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And, the liquid intelligence
of the body, which is a thing.

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And, the way light operates
in the body in cells.

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Not as a woo woo thing,
but as a biological thing.

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And how this affects well being.

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In all sorts of ways, and she's also
a horse, a horse woman, and very

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much in demand as a craniosacral
practitioner with horses.

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Some of you may know that she's
been on Warwick Schiller's

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podcast Journey On, et cetera.

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And I'm always fascinated to talk
to to talk to Shea, because I always

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learn it, you know, all the stuff I
haven't yet caught up on, it's good.

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But I wanted her on this show because
if you are a practitioner of anything

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equine assisted, you've basically
got three things you're always

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having to bear in mind, four really.

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One is the well being of
your clients and your horses.

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That's sort of an equal first together.

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You can't separate one
from the other, right?

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Because if your horse has got no well
being, how are you going to transmit well

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being through your horse to a person?

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But also, if we don't know some
things about the human well being,

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we might inadvertently fall into
some holes, which we don't want to.

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Then, of course, there is the well
being of yourself as the, as the

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practitioner, because again, if you've
got no well being, unlikely that you'll

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be able to transmit that to others,
no matter how many legs they have.

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And then, of course, So that there
was two, there's now three, and then

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the last one, of course, is that the,
the, the families, particularly when

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you're dealing with children or young,
young people, when they go home,

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what are you sending them home with?

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Because one of the, one of
the real limitations, I think,

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about equine assisted stuff
is that it's equine assisted.

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When people leave that space They're
not taking a horse back to their living

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room in their apartment building.

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So how can they keep good things going?

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That might be related to what the horse
has given them or more general things.

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Shea Stewart is somebody who
knows that whole universe.

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And so if you're an equine assisted
practitioner or somebody who Part X,

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because you are a service user, i.

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e.

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a patient, if you like, or
both, many of us are both.

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Shay Stewart is somebody you want
to know about and listen to, and you

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want to go to her website and all of
that stuff will be available here.

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So Shay, welcome back
and thank you for coming.

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Shea Stewart: Hi, Rupert.

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Thank you so much for having me back.

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I always.

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Love our conversations
and I'm happy to be here.

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Rupert Isaacson: All right, so I very much
advise listeners to get a notebook out

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because there are going to be some things
that Shay talks about that you might be

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aware of and you might not be aware of
and that you perhaps need to be aware

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of or be helpful if you're aware of and
also things that perhaps you have heard

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of but you haven't heard well explained
like mitochondria, for example, important

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thing, word we hear, what does it mean?

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But let's start first with Shay, you're a
craniosacral therapist first and foremost,

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that's where it sort of began with you.

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What is that?

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How is that helpful to horses and humans?

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And how has that led you
on to these other areas?

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Shea Stewart: Well so I've been
receiving craniosacral since.

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1987 or 88 and it was

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Rupert Isaacson: after the dinosaurs

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Shea Stewart: shortly after that.

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Yeah, not too long after that.

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And this is before, you know,

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Rupert Isaacson: amazing
for 3000 years old.

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It must be that mitochondria stuff

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Shea Stewart: because I focus
on my mitochondrial health.

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Rupert Isaacson: All right.

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Okay.

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So you started as a patient
as somebody needing it.

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Why?

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Yes,

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Shea Stewart: I, I got it.

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And this was before massages
and chiropractic and all

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that was really part of

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Rupert Isaacson: it.

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Yeah.

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Shea Stewart: And my sister was a
professional ballet dancer and they

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always received, you know, interesting
things with their body work.

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And she turned me on to this
woman who did craniosacral.

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And I went there because I had migraines.

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And what I didn't realize was that
I was, that was, those were just

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a symptom of a, a dysregulated
system and she, she helped all that.

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And I was so drawn to that work that I
ended up learning how to do it myself.

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And so I took some cranial classes
and then I decided to take an

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advanced two year biodynamic course.

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And one thing I don't know if
people are aware of is there are

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two approaches to craniosacral.

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There's biomechanical
and there's biodynamic

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Rupert Isaacson: and

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Shea Stewart: the both of them work.

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So the grandfather of craniosacral
is named William Gardner Sutherland.

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He was a osteopath student who saw
that the skull bones were meant to

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breathe like gills of a fish, all
the different plates in the skull.

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And so he spent his life
studying that, and he developed

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both craniosacral modalities.

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Incorporate his five principles of the,
of the craniosacral system, which is

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Rupert Isaacson: what are those?

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Yeah.

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Shea Stewart: The, the flow of cerebral
spinal fluid the core link, meaning

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that the, the dura is free floating
while it has, does have some attachments

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and it, it moves independently with

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Rupert Isaacson: the

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Shea Stewart: spinal cord.

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Rupert Isaacson: Okay.

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Shea Stewart: So the five
principles of the craniosacral.

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mechanism is what he calls them.

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There's the cerebral spinal fluid flow,
the Dora, the core link, the the sutures,

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the movement of the bones with it.

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They're all joined together by sutures.

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So they, they all have a motion.

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So let's, The nervous system,
how it acts independently of

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of this and

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he, so it basically is a, is a,
an approach that works on the

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nervous system through the flow of
the cerebral spinal fluid and the

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movement of the bones and the tissues.

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So there's a rhythm that that
these go and then later on in his.

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His life, he found that there when he
was called to work on a dying man, he

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felt that there was a presence in the
room that moved through the person.

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And this, when he, he, he called this,
he was a, he was a Christian mystic.

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He called this the breath of life,
which we now call primary respiration.

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So, he had his 1st, 5 principles, and
then he had 4 more after that, which was,

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which start with primary respiration.

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The mutual field between practitioner
and client the relational

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field is what he called it.

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And the biomechanical approach their
entry point into the cranial sacral

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system is through the cranial rhythmic
impulse, which is if you look at the

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body as being like a ocean that's
contained within skin, there's different.

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There's different waves of of movement.

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There's the surface waves, which are just
like the ocean, which are a little faster.

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And then, as you go deeper there,
the, the motions get slower.

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So, the biomechanical approach, their
entry point into the system is, is

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the faster surface cranial rhythmic
impulse, which is not really fast.

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It's.

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It's a impulse at 6 to 12
minutes per cycle, which is this

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actually ironically is the same.

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I don't know if it's ironic.

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It's the same wave as the
geometric pulse of the earth.

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And makes sense.

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Yeah.

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And that 6 minute cycle is also the,
the timing of the coherent breath.

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So it's, it's a slow rhythm and then
the bow dynamic approach, they, we

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focus on William Garner Sutherland's
later principles, which the entry

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point is primary respiration,
which is the deep long tide, the

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stabilizing rhythm of, of the body.

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So it's like.

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It's like the slow rhythm that
stabilizes and supports life.

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CRI may come up in a session, but we,
we focus more on the slower rhythms.

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So, that's mainly the difference.

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But with this, we also look at
the embryo as our archetype.

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So, when we're just a single cell post
fertilized egg, we, the, the fluids.

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In the cell know our body is going
to be and these fluids have memory.

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It's like a blueprint of us and and
this fluid has the memory of us.

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So we access this the fluid body and the
person or the client, whatever the horse

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accessing what we call the inner embryo,
which is the, the origins of our health.

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And the fluid body, this is what got
me into quantum biology is, so in

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the biodynamic world, we, we focus
on the fluid body and the rhythm,

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rhythm of primary respiration and
quantum biology, it actually actually

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explains what the fluid body is.

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From a scientific point of view,

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Rupert Isaacson: please go on.

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What is quantum biology?

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I'm actually googling
it as I ask you this.

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Shea Stewart: Oh, you are.

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Rupert Isaacson: Yeah,

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because it sounds intriguing.

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Shea Stewart: So quantum biology
is basically the study of.

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Mitochondrial health through
light, water, magnetism.

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Those are the basic
principles of quantum biology.

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It's the intersection of
quantum physics and biology.

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Rupert Isaacson: Right.

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What I've got here is quantum biology
is the field of study that investigates

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processes in living organisms that
cannot be accurately described

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by the classical laws of physics.

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This means that quantum theory has to be
applied to understand these processes.

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Would you say that's fair or

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Shea Stewart: not?

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Really?

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I mean, they can be explained.

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There are people that are way smarter
in the field than I am because

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it's, it's something that I've
just been studying the last year.

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But it is a lot to do with the
way our mitochondria function.

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Rupert Isaacson: Okay.

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Shea Stewart: Protons, electrons.

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Rupert Isaacson: Right.

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It's interesting too.

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I've got.

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It seems to go back to Schrodinger,
Schrodinger, who a lot of people

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know about, know the name, but
they don't know who he was.

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He was the guy who did
the experiment with light.

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Is light a photon, i.

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e.

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a fixed thing, or is it a wave?

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And he found out that it was
both because that argument

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had been raging for centuries.

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And he, he, he proved in an experiment
that you could trap a light wave in a very

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Narrow thing that was visible to the naked
eye, and when you didn't look at it, it

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was a wave, and when you looked at it,
or when something measured it, it was a

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particle, and that therefore superposition
things could be different things at

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once, like when you toss a coin, and
it's spinning in the air before it comes

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down, it's both heads and tails, right?

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It's, But both in potential and
then it's only when it hits the

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ground and you observe it that you
see which one it is Very similar.

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So i'm i'm interested now.

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Let's let's ground this two things one.

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Cranial sacral work when my son rowan
was at his most severe I cranial sacral

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work and he couldn't stand Even the
gentlest attentions of the therapist

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because it seemed to overwhelm him.

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So, we waited till, we would
wait till Rona fallen asleep.

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And then the cranial sacral person would.

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Work on him very gently while
he slept in that deep sleep.

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So, and then we'd take him home and
we do this about 11 o'clock at night.

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Shows what you'll do as an autism
parent, you know, drive an hour in to

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the town, hour out, you know, to do this.

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There always was a
difference in him afterwards.

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And then the, the second thing is
those people who know our work with

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movement method know that one of
the things we do is sacral rocking.

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That enhances not just oxytocin,
feeling good and connected and

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communicative, but also your cerebral
spinal fluid flow, which of course

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is good in all sorts of ways.

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So, I, but I had not until I met you
run into terms like quantum biology

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or living a circadian lifestyle or
quantum lifestyle as things that could

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be beneficial for horses and humans.

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And I'm going to get to explain those.

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And then yeah, the, the experiences that.

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We've had with the work that we
do, particularly with autism and

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communication seems always to
be enhanced by sacral rocking.

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So, and then one of the first
neuroscientists to endorse horseboy

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method and movement method was
a guy called Robert Navio, Dr.

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Robert Navio, who was the head
of the mitochondrial Institute

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in.

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University of California, San Diego, so
this brings us to this word mitochondria,

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which the mighty chondria mighty anaconda
Brain could go other ways there But this

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is a word that gets battered around like
cerebral spinal fluid one can sort of

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picture it There's a fluid in the spine.

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It goes up and down It has a bunch
of different functions that we could

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go into but it's a biological thing.

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It's there We know it's there, you know,
you can open someone's spine and there

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it is you can open up their brain and
there it is Mitochondria is something

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which I think many people hear the
word, don't really know what it means,

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realize that it's important because more
and more people seem to talk about it,

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and there are whole university chairs
based around it, and it seems to have

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something to do with neuroscience.

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So, here's a question for you.

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You fell into this whole mitochondrial
thing through your adventure with cerebral

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spinal fluid in a way, in this primary
Respiration that you're talking about.

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What is mitochondria and why
should horsey people trying to

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help other people know about it?

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Shea Stewart: Well,

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mitochondrial health is greatly not
looked at in our healthcare system,

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yet I believe it's one of the most
important aspects of our biology.

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Mitochondrial health and our fluid body,
I believe are the most important aspects.

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So mitochondria are
actually, they're organelles.

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That live inside each cell.

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So every cell in our body has thousands
to millions of mitochondria or

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yeah, mitochondria inside of them.

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Rupert Isaacson: Little organs
doing stuff, telling the, telling

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the, telling the cell to do stuff.

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Shea Stewart: Yep, they, they are
known as the, as the energy makers,

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like the, what's the, I can't think
of the term people use with it.

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Basically, they make ATP, which is an
energy, but that's not all they do.

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They they make CO2, they make
water, they make infrared light.

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They make oxygen and they need
special things in order to do this.

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And, and the most important thing
that they, they make is water.

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It's a deuterium depleted
water, but mitochondria need

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electrons in order to do this.

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And they also need light frequencies
in order to function properly.

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Rupert Isaacson: Just quickly, you
mentioned something called ATP, and I

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went, ooh, what's that when it's at home?

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So just for listeners, it's
chemical energy produced by the

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mitochondria is, well, chemical
energy produced by the mitochondria

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is stored in a small molecule.

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Called

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Aden phosphate, a TP.

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Okay.

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So it's like the battery story.

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Okay.

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Yep.

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Got it.

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Shea Stewart: Exactly.

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A little semiconductor, a little battery.

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Rupert Isaacson: Mm-hmm

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. 
Shea Stewart: So they,

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Rupert Isaacson: okay, so the
mitochondria are, are these organelles

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that make the cell function to do.

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All these good things for our well being.

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We need CO2 for things.

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We need oxygen for things.

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Infrared light.

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What do we need infrared light for?

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Shea Stewart: Well, to make heat.

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Rupert Isaacson: Ah.

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Shea Stewart: Is one of the things.

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Rupert Isaacson: Okay.

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Shea Stewart: That's what
infrared light is, is heat.

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Rupert Isaacson: So,
thermoregulation, mitochondria.

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Shea Stewart: Yep.

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And that heat.

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You're getting

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Rupert Isaacson: too hot, too cold.

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Shea Stewart: Yep, and that
heat that we make can actually

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structure our internal water.

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So, if you think about the water in
our body it, it surrounds everything.

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It surrounds every protein, every cell.

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It lines our blood vessels.

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It lines our arteries.

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Glycocalyx is a, is a form of water that,
that lines the arteries and blood vessels.

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It's in our cerebral spinal fluid.

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It's in our blood, our blood plasma.

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Water is everywhere.

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And this water is basically
the means of, of communication.

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Of every biological function in our
body, and this water needs to be

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in a structured state, which means
that it's in a coherent state.

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So if you think about, if you want
to go the more quantum and get down

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to what a water molecule is, oxygen
and two hydrogens, and, and these.

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Always form an angle.

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Bond angle is what it's called.

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And when it's at a certain angle, can form
geometric patterns, geometric clusters,

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and they, they structure together.

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It's like a, it's like a
symphony playing together.

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What happens if this water
is not structured, it becomes

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what they call bulk water.

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And bulk water is basically
inflammation in the body.

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And every cell in our body needs a
negative charge that this water provides.

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Rupert Isaacson: Why do
we need a negative charge?

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Shea Stewart: Because we run
on a DC electrical current.

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Because of the the electrical
current that's needed in our

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bodies in order to function

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Rupert Isaacson: the spark of life

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Shea Stewart: Yeah,

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Rupert Isaacson: okay.

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So Someone's listening to this going.

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All right.

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Well, you know, I'm shoveling shit right
now listening to Rue and Shay talk about

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this mitochondria thing and you know, and
I've got you know, the kids who are coming

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or I've got you know a group coming for
their equine assisted thing in 15 minutes.

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Why should I care for my horse?

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Well, about this mitochondrial thing.

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And, and, okay, I can be aware of it.

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But what is, what is my awareness of it?

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Allow me to do, to be better
for my horse and for my human.

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Shea Stewart: I think it's, I think
it's understanding our biology

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better so we can be optimal.

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Okay.

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Because when we, when our mitochondria is,
is optimal, then we, we can think better.

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We have we have a better ability to be
creative and, and not so dogmatic on

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things, you know, we become more open.

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We, the movement that you talked about,
that's one of the ways we also get

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electrons that help our mitochondria.

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We just become more.

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We're just healthier all around
our mitochondria can funk can

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actually just we don't notice a
dysfunction in our mitochondria until

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it's dysfunctioning at about 70%.

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So once we, we notice something
wrong, like my back pain

00:24:11.313 --> 00:24:12.733
that I've been dealing with.

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That's when, when, if you.

00:24:16.953 --> 00:24:20.923
Boil everything down in the quantum world.

00:24:21.473 --> 00:24:29.043
We believe that all diseases, all health
issues come down to a mitochondrial

00:24:29.053 --> 00:24:36.893
dysfunction and our modern lifestyle is
dysfunctioning it at a high rate of speed.

00:24:37.278 --> 00:24:45.538
Because of the light environment, we live
in the tech use the indoor life seeking.

00:24:45.898 --> 00:24:47.498
We're always seeking comfort.

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None of these do any are beneficial
to our mitochondrial health

00:24:54.368 --> 00:24:55.973
and the same with our animals.

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They're like canary in the coal
mines when it comes to mitochondrial

00:25:01.033 --> 00:25:05.473
dysfunction or, or the things that
are dysfunctioning our mitochondria,

00:25:05.473 --> 00:25:07.378
they're even more sensitive to it.

00:25:08.038 --> 00:25:10.618
And some people are more
sensitive than others.

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Women are more sensitive because
we need that energy to create life.

00:25:16.238 --> 00:25:21.048
So that, in a sense, makes us more
sensitive to things that aren't

00:25:21.508 --> 00:25:24.178
natural to our, our biology.

00:25:26.448 --> 00:25:33.068
Rupert Isaacson: Okay, so what can I
do as an equine assisted practitioner

00:25:33.858 --> 00:25:39.048
to optimise the mitochondrial
health first of my horses?

00:25:39.698 --> 00:25:43.798
Because that's who I'm going to be working
through to these humans that come through.

00:25:44.068 --> 00:25:45.278
Then we'll get to the humans.

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How can I optimise my mitochond
How do I get quantum horses?

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Shea Stewart: Quantum horses.

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Rupert Isaacson: Loads more horses.

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That's what we all do.

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Shea Stewart: Yeah.

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So

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things that the things in our
life that mitochondria love are

00:26:08.293 --> 00:26:12.203
native electromagnetic frequencies.

00:26:12.563 --> 00:26:12.963
Rupert Isaacson: Okay.

00:26:13.193 --> 00:26:13.713
Why?

00:26:15.253 --> 00:26:16.703
Shea Stewart: Because that's what

00:26:17.413 --> 00:26:18.593
Rupert Isaacson: that's
plugging into the earth.

00:26:18.623 --> 00:26:19.573
That's plugging into it.

00:26:20.203 --> 00:26:20.543
The

00:26:22.413 --> 00:26:27.863
Shea Stewart: only electromagnetic
frequency that our biology understands

00:26:28.003 --> 00:26:34.583
is that from the sun and that from
the earth, the Schumann resonance,

00:26:34.583 --> 00:26:40.523
the geometric magnetic pulse, the
light frequencies from the sun.

00:26:41.553 --> 00:26:43.673
This is connecting to nature.

00:26:45.323 --> 00:26:52.713
So, our horses, they also
rely on a circadian rhythm.

00:26:52.883 --> 00:26:57.343
Circadian rhythm is not just, oh, I'm up
during the day and I'm asleep at night.

00:26:58.303 --> 00:27:04.963
It's every, every single cell in our
body relies on a circadian rhythm.

00:27:05.703 --> 00:27:11.223
The cells in our kidneys, the cells in
our lungs, the cells in our liver, and

00:27:12.293 --> 00:27:17.383
when, when there's a dysfunction, a lot
of times it's because the circadian rhythm

00:27:17.383 --> 00:27:21.393
of that actual body part can be off.

00:27:22.053 --> 00:27:27.023
And usually it's a body part that
has more mitochondria, so we have

00:27:27.023 --> 00:27:34.633
more mitochondria and our heart and
our brain and women and the eggs.

00:27:36.003 --> 00:27:40.103
So a lot of our dysfunctions.

00:27:40.933 --> 00:27:44.813
Or, you know, cardiovascular
diseases stuff things like

00:27:44.813 --> 00:27:47.073
dementia and things like that.

00:27:47.463 --> 00:27:48.573
So, for horses,

00:27:52.903 --> 00:27:59.773
what we can do from a quantum perspective
to keep our healthy, our horses healthy

00:28:00.173 --> 00:28:08.283
and living in a proper circadian
lifestyle would be outside and sunrise.

00:28:09.728 --> 00:28:11.288
No fly masks on.

00:28:12.858 --> 00:28:13.828
Ideally,

00:28:17.808 --> 00:28:20.278
the sun should also touch their fur.

00:28:21.268 --> 00:28:28.488
So fly sheet or blankets, you know,
some horses need the warmth, but it

00:28:28.568 --> 00:28:35.738
is nice for them to get full spectrum
sun at some point morning is good.

00:28:36.988 --> 00:28:38.498
Solar noon is good.

00:28:42.223 --> 00:28:43.923
No barn lights at night.

00:28:44.533 --> 00:28:49.233
Anytime a light is turned on
after the sun goes down, it's

00:28:49.233 --> 00:28:52.923
a, it's a melatonin disruptor.

00:28:54.273 --> 00:28:58.133
It basically stops the
production of melatonin.

00:28:58.173 --> 00:29:02.993
It stops the release of melatonin
that's been producing all day from

00:29:05.923 --> 00:29:06.733
serotonin.

00:29:08.943 --> 00:29:13.803
So when we have a light on in the
barn, not only does that disrupt

00:29:15.163 --> 00:29:19.593
that the processes that the body's
going through in order to shut down,

00:29:20.133 --> 00:29:22.543
to go to sleep, to heal and repair.

00:29:23.473 --> 00:29:27.973
But a lot of these lights also have
that flicker that we talked about.

00:29:27.993 --> 00:29:31.173
It's, it's not something
that you can see visibly.

00:29:33.663 --> 00:29:40.783
But all led lights have this and the
flicker and led light is different

00:29:40.933 --> 00:29:45.663
from the flicker from the old
incandescent bulbs because it actually

00:29:45.673 --> 00:29:51.553
turns on and then all the way off,
all the way on, all the way off.

00:29:52.023 --> 00:29:55.413
And it happens at like 150 times a second.

00:29:55.563 --> 00:30:00.783
So we don't see it, but you can, you
can actually put your, if you have

00:30:00.783 --> 00:30:05.433
an iPhone, you can put it on slow
motion mode and video your lights.

00:30:05.953 --> 00:30:11.793
And see if they have flicker and what
this flicker and I've seen it in barns

00:30:11.793 --> 00:30:14.903
where I can feel it now because I'm so.

00:30:15.538 --> 00:30:19.618
You know, that's the thing is once you
become aware of this stuff, you sense

00:30:19.618 --> 00:30:29.288
it sooner and I went to a barn and The
horse that I was working on was I could

00:30:29.308 --> 00:30:34.568
tell he was stressed at the time He
was at the time rack He kept stretching

00:30:34.568 --> 00:30:39.848
and yawning and stretching and yawning,
but not like a good stretch or yawn.

00:30:39.988 --> 00:30:46.228
It just seems stressed And the
lights were I could feel the

00:30:46.228 --> 00:30:47.548
stress coming from the light.

00:30:47.548 --> 00:30:50.758
So I videoed them and the
flicker was just insane.

00:30:51.468 --> 00:30:54.548
So I had her turn the barn
lights out and it was daylight.

00:30:54.588 --> 00:30:58.318
You don't need lights in the
barn during the day when there's.

00:30:58.698 --> 00:31:07.628
Light coming in and horse immediately
relaxed all that behavior stopped.

00:31:07.708 --> 00:31:10.568
He took a deep breath and was like, okay,

00:31:11.108 --> 00:31:12.228
Rupert Isaacson: it's very
interesting what you say.

00:31:12.228 --> 00:31:17.208
Because with autism, one of the no
negative sensory triggers that Dr.

00:31:17.208 --> 00:31:20.478
Temple Grandin first turned me
on to when I was a young autism.

00:31:20.478 --> 00:31:24.648
Dad was fluorescent strip
lights and and led lights.

00:31:24.828 --> 00:31:27.558
And to get rid of them in the home
environment as much as possible.

00:31:27.558 --> 00:31:29.268
And we did and it definitely worked.

00:31:29.708 --> 00:31:31.418
For the same reasons
that you talked about.

00:31:31.498 --> 00:31:35.888
And I noticed, you know, frequently
when I'm going into therapy barns

00:31:35.918 --> 00:31:38.658
and they've got these massive
fluorescent strip lights on.

00:31:38.658 --> 00:31:41.858
It's like, dude, this is not
gonna, this is not gonna work well.

00:31:42.518 --> 00:31:42.918
Shea Stewart: But

00:31:42.968 --> 00:31:43.758
Rupert Isaacson: devil's advocate.

00:31:44.258 --> 00:31:52.248
We are in Northern England, or Norway,
or Upper Peninsula Michigan, and it's

00:31:52.258 --> 00:31:56.698
getting dark at, you know, two o'clock
in the afternoon or whatever, and the

00:31:56.698 --> 00:31:58.138
kids need to come for their sessions.

00:31:58.148 --> 00:31:59.138
You've got to have lights on.

00:31:59.618 --> 00:32:04.608
And so, there's going to be
a whole evening session that

00:32:04.608 --> 00:32:06.068
you, you just can't avoid.

00:32:06.298 --> 00:32:09.678
So, What do we do to make sure
that that isn't detrimental?

00:32:11.008 --> 00:32:14.778
Shea Stewart: Well, there are
companies that are making circadian

00:32:15.278 --> 00:32:18.018
friendly non flicker light bulbs.

00:32:19.718 --> 00:32:21.848
There's a whole Are they

00:32:21.848 --> 00:32:24.468
Rupert Isaacson: doing them on the
big enough scale that you could

00:32:24.468 --> 00:32:26.078
light an arena with them or a barn?

00:32:26.628 --> 00:32:31.018
Shea Stewart: I know there was somebody
in my applied quantum biology course

00:32:31.138 --> 00:32:33.208
I took who was designing lights.

00:32:33.208 --> 00:32:35.348
He was in the UK, I think.

00:32:36.093 --> 00:32:38.523
And he worked for a
light designing company.

00:32:39.033 --> 00:32:41.093
I could ask him if, if they

00:32:41.163 --> 00:32:44.263
Rupert Isaacson: But what would your,
what would your Let's say, you know,

00:32:44.263 --> 00:32:48.033
I'm a stress barn owner and I haven't
got time to contact this dude in England

00:32:48.043 --> 00:32:52.423
for something he might or might not have
access to and that I might or might not

00:32:52.423 --> 00:32:55.483
be able to access because I'm in Canada.

00:32:55.483 --> 00:32:55.963
I don't know.

00:32:56.483 --> 00:33:00.903
What can I do, given that
it's a non ideal situation?

00:33:01.323 --> 00:33:04.393
What can I do to mitigate
those effects as best I can?

00:33:05.738 --> 00:33:06.278
Shea Stewart: Well,

00:33:08.488 --> 00:33:10.168
Rupert Isaacson: in those dark,
that dark time of the year.

00:33:10.548 --> 00:33:11.088
Shea Stewart: Yeah.

00:33:11.498 --> 00:33:16.488
If you, if you can buy better
bulbs, look for some places you

00:33:16.488 --> 00:33:22.458
can still buy incandescent bulbs,
incandescent bulbs are better because.

00:33:24.183 --> 00:33:25.993
They have the infrared in them.

00:33:26.323 --> 00:33:32.613
That's why they stopped making them
because of the energy production,

00:33:32.663 --> 00:33:34.943
the energy coming from them.

00:33:35.383 --> 00:33:43.273
So now we have LED bulbs that are
like one spectrum of blue, 450

00:33:43.413 --> 00:33:45.633
nanometers or something of blue.

00:33:46.023 --> 00:33:53.053
And our, our biology does not understand
that spectrum of light because we,

00:33:53.063 --> 00:33:55.343
our biology does not understand.

00:33:57.813 --> 00:34:02.053
Anything that's isolate any of those
light spectrums that are isolated because

00:34:02.053 --> 00:34:08.718
the sun is like Almost 50 percent red
and infrared, the light that comes from

00:34:08.718 --> 00:34:15.778
the sun and so when we take a bulb,
that's got an isolated spectrum of blue.

00:34:16.258 --> 00:34:18.388
The body doesn't understand that.

00:34:18.768 --> 00:34:21.698
So things 1 of the main
things that happen.

00:34:21.698 --> 00:34:26.268
There's lots of studies on PubMed
about this, but the, the 1st thing

00:34:26.268 --> 00:34:28.438
that happens is our glucose spikes.

00:34:29.113 --> 00:34:34.103
And our bodies are, are very
intelligent, intelligent, and it spikes

00:34:34.123 --> 00:34:36.433
as a protection against that light.

00:34:38.753 --> 00:34:43.433
So when we're in the barn at night and
we're under led lights, this, these

00:34:43.433 --> 00:34:45.023
are things that are just happening.

00:34:45.373 --> 00:34:50.163
It happens with horses too, cause
they're, they're mammals and

00:34:50.173 --> 00:34:53.603
they have mitochondria as well.

00:34:57.103 --> 00:34:57.723
So

00:35:01.413 --> 00:35:05.843
one, one thing that I did in my house
before I started replacing all the bulbs

00:35:05.883 --> 00:35:12.538
is I bought that red vinyl tape you
use to put on like a broken tail light.

00:35:13.158 --> 00:35:13.708
Rupert Isaacson: Okay.

00:35:15.268 --> 00:35:19.838
Shea Stewart: And I covered, I
put that tape over all the little

00:35:19.838 --> 00:35:24.498
nightlights, the refrigerator
lights anything that I could take.

00:35:24.538 --> 00:35:24.988
So you end up

00:35:24.988 --> 00:35:26.068
Rupert Isaacson: with
a bunch of red light.

00:35:26.538 --> 00:35:26.938
Shea Stewart: Yes.

00:35:28.158 --> 00:35:33.448
So technically you could do that in
a barn if you need the lights, even

00:35:33.448 --> 00:35:41.118
if you don't want to do all of them,
you could do some of them or you

00:35:41.118 --> 00:35:42.828
Rupert Isaacson: need some
bright light so you can see

00:35:42.828 --> 00:35:43.878
Shea Stewart: how

00:35:44.058 --> 00:35:44.808
Rupert Isaacson: to do some things.

00:35:44.808 --> 00:35:45.208
Yeah,

00:35:45.518 --> 00:35:49.008
Shea Stewart: the other thing you
could do is you could add red lights.

00:35:49.108 --> 00:35:55.798
So, barn, barn aisles, arenas,
those are going to be LED or

00:35:55.798 --> 00:35:57.578
fluorescent lights, which is that.

00:35:59.378 --> 00:36:04.358
That isolated spectrum of blue that's
causing they're actually, they've

00:36:04.368 --> 00:36:13.458
actually traced diabetes to this and,
and you can, you can look up the studies,

00:36:13.458 --> 00:36:17.908
but it's hard because we, you know,

00:36:21.118 --> 00:36:24.668
since the invention of lights, we
completely changed our lifestyle.

00:36:24.758 --> 00:36:29.297
It's like, okay, we can be up all night
now, but we're in, but our biology

00:36:29.297 --> 00:36:32.281
is, has not cut up, caught up to that.

00:36:32.281 --> 00:36:32.613
So.

00:36:33.563 --> 00:36:39.703
When what you could do in a barn or an
arena is incorporate some red lights

00:36:40.083 --> 00:36:43.723
just to help diffuse that isolated blue.

00:36:44.133 --> 00:36:46.853
You're not going to fix the
flicker with that, though.

00:36:47.663 --> 00:36:52.033
You have to get special
flicker free bulbs.

00:36:54.363 --> 00:36:55.403
Rupert Isaacson: How easy is to get?

00:36:57.433 --> 00:37:00.313
Shea Stewart: There's a I could
I could send you a list of

00:37:03.053 --> 00:37:04.213
companies that sell them.

00:37:04.293 --> 00:37:06.253
Rupert Isaacson: OK, so if
I'm a barn owner, should I be

00:37:06.253 --> 00:37:07.753
looking at flicker free bulbs?

00:37:08.163 --> 00:37:08.543
Shea Stewart: Yeah,

00:37:08.853 --> 00:37:10.503
Rupert Isaacson: and
taping some stuff red.

00:37:11.063 --> 00:37:11.493
Shea Stewart: Yeah,

00:37:11.643 --> 00:37:14.833
Rupert Isaacson: and having some
red lights, which will maybe give

00:37:14.833 --> 00:37:16.473
me a warmer light anyway in my barn.

00:37:16.473 --> 00:37:19.263
I mean, one of the things
that's often difficult in those

00:37:19.263 --> 00:37:20.563
barns, it can feel very cold.

00:37:21.113 --> 00:37:23.883
And then the weather outside is
cold and then the light is cold.

00:37:23.883 --> 00:37:26.538
Yeah.

00:37:27.898 --> 00:37:32.158
Shea Stewart: If you can find
incandescent bulbs, those are the best.

00:37:32.168 --> 00:37:34.318
I can still find those in the U.

00:37:34.318 --> 00:37:34.818
S.

00:37:35.318 --> 00:37:38.128
I know some countries are
completely banned, but

00:37:39.318 --> 00:37:44.703
Rupert Isaacson: Something which I found
helpful was because When I'm doing,

00:37:44.713 --> 00:37:52.353
say, an equine assisted session in the
evening, I don't actually need very bright

00:37:52.353 --> 00:37:54.143
lights for that because I'm not jumping.

00:37:54.193 --> 00:37:58.883
I'm not needing to see my way
exactly into a fence, you know,

00:37:59.083 --> 00:38:02.703
where dull light, you know, could
be dangerous or something like that.

00:38:02.933 --> 00:38:08.243
So I, in some cases, even
worked to candlelight.

00:38:09.683 --> 00:38:13.103
And that sort of thing, which in a, in
an arena you can, speaking a small arena,

00:38:13.103 --> 00:38:18.163
you really can, or even switching off
half the lights and only having part

00:38:18.163 --> 00:38:19.993
of the lights on and switching them on.

00:38:20.053 --> 00:38:24.933
What I started experimenting with
sometimes was switching them on down

00:38:24.933 --> 00:38:29.933
the end of the arena, but working
a little bit in the less lip bit of

00:38:29.933 --> 00:38:33.038
the arena so that we weren't fully.

00:38:33.443 --> 00:38:37.173
I've sort of played around with these
things and it's, it's, it's, I would say

00:38:37.173 --> 00:38:40.273
I've observed good effects with the kids.

00:38:41.153 --> 00:38:48.363
What I didn't necessarily look to was the
effects with the horses because, you know,

00:38:48.383 --> 00:38:50.323
my understanding of equine well being.

00:38:50.978 --> 00:38:53.538
What I've grown up with is so much
about fitness and muscle building

00:38:53.538 --> 00:38:57.088
and brain development and keeping
them interested, you know, and

00:38:57.088 --> 00:39:01.148
obviously giving them a naturalistic
lifestyle as much as possible.

00:39:01.378 --> 00:39:03.718
Not everybody can and I'm aware of this.

00:39:04.138 --> 00:39:07.188
I don't want to shame people who
can't, like we've got a really

00:39:07.188 --> 00:39:10.958
good horse boy and movement method
practice in the middle of Dublin.

00:39:11.638 --> 00:39:15.568
And they serve, it's a
really important service.

00:39:15.568 --> 00:39:19.018
They're serving urban kids who would
never get access to this normally.

00:39:19.468 --> 00:39:21.258
You think, Oh, Ireland,
everyone's got horses, but

00:39:21.258 --> 00:39:23.038
actually Dublin's anywhere else.

00:39:23.468 --> 00:39:25.908
And they don't have the facilities.

00:39:25.908 --> 00:39:26.868
They do what they can.

00:39:29.593 --> 00:39:33.653
Inventive, and they also send their
horses out regularly and rotate them

00:39:33.653 --> 00:39:37.763
out to the country for long breaks in
fields for a few weeks and then bring.

00:39:37.913 --> 00:39:40.373
So, you know, they're doing their
equine well being as, you know,

00:39:40.383 --> 00:39:41.483
as well as they possibly can.

00:39:41.793 --> 00:39:44.953
But with the best will in the world,
we know that not everybody can

00:39:45.563 --> 00:39:48.583
have the state of Montana as you
know, their backyard sort of thing.

00:39:49.143 --> 00:39:49.423
We all

00:39:49.423 --> 00:39:52.783
Shea Stewart: can't have a thousand
acres for our horses to run free on.

00:39:52.853 --> 00:39:53.383
Indeed.

00:39:53.503 --> 00:39:53.703
Indeed.

00:39:53.703 --> 00:39:55.343
Yeah, you do the best you can.

00:39:55.403 --> 00:39:55.933
Do the best you can.

00:39:56.743 --> 00:39:59.813
I had that too of my barn
that I had in California.

00:40:01.478 --> 00:40:03.138
Rupert Isaacson: So, so how
did you get around that when

00:40:03.138 --> 00:40:04.098
you were running your barn?

00:40:05.638 --> 00:40:10.408
Shea Stewart: When, when they
when they were, they were in

00:40:10.408 --> 00:40:12.508
small, lived in small paddocks.

00:40:13.178 --> 00:40:16.368
So, I just got them
out as much as I could.

00:40:16.918 --> 00:40:19.358
I made their turnouts interesting.

00:40:19.728 --> 00:40:22.448
You know, with like a
new branch for them to

00:40:22.798 --> 00:40:23.668
Rupert Isaacson: like, how did you

00:40:26.328 --> 00:40:29.878
Shea Stewart: play with, or, you
know, barrels, you know, to go

00:40:29.878 --> 00:40:34.228
around, you know, things to keep
their brain interest and engaged.

00:40:38.238 --> 00:40:40.118
I made sure they're living space.

00:40:40.148 --> 00:40:41.978
They were next to horses.

00:40:41.978 --> 00:40:46.838
They liked, you know, it's no
fun living in such a tight space

00:40:46.838 --> 00:40:48.948
with somebody you don't like.

00:40:49.558 --> 00:40:50.048
So.

00:40:50.213 --> 00:40:52.463
I'm

00:40:53.023 --> 00:40:54.213
Rupert Isaacson: sure a
lot of people are laughing.

00:40:57.843 --> 00:40:58.463
Shea Stewart: I made sure

00:40:59.303 --> 00:40:59.763
Rupert Isaacson: it's in our life.

00:41:00.833 --> 00:41:01.113
Shea Stewart: Yeah.

00:41:03.713 --> 00:41:08.293
I also made sure they always had
something, you know, to chew on some

00:41:08.333 --> 00:41:12.393
hay or twigs or, you know, whatever.

00:41:12.933 --> 00:41:14.843
But yeah, we do the best we can with.

00:41:15.248 --> 00:41:20.228
With what we have and there are
things we can't always control how

00:41:20.228 --> 00:41:25.028
much space we have and but we can
control the lighting environment.

00:41:25.903 --> 00:41:30.113
And, and the other non native
EMFs, we can control that.

00:41:30.623 --> 00:41:31.673
Rupert Isaacson: What's an EMF?

00:41:32.523 --> 00:41:35.483
Shea Stewart: An EMF is
an electromagnetic field.

00:41:35.843 --> 00:41:36.253
Rupert Isaacson: Okay.

00:41:36.803 --> 00:41:42.093
Shea Stewart: And it's basically
can be thought of as a light

00:41:42.143 --> 00:41:43.953
wave, like a non visible.

00:41:44.443 --> 00:41:44.873
Rupert Isaacson: Hmm.

00:41:45.513 --> 00:41:47.643
Shea Stewart: Because we have, you
know, there's visible light waves

00:41:47.643 --> 00:41:50.013
and there's non visible light waves.

00:41:53.323 --> 00:42:00.893
The other thing about the lighting
is lighting at night from a

00:42:00.893 --> 00:42:08.193
quantum health perspective should
come from lower areas, not above.

00:42:08.993 --> 00:42:11.433
So, if you want to think
about mimicking the sun,

00:42:13.553 --> 00:42:19.053
it's solar noon, the sun is,
you know, above our heads, every

00:42:19.053 --> 00:42:22.633
color of the rainbow is out,
it's solar noon from the sun.

00:42:24.333 --> 00:42:29.183
And each different light spectrum
tells our body to do different things.

00:42:31.833 --> 00:42:39.173
When we're inside an artificial light,
so the sun, the color is always changing

00:42:39.173 --> 00:42:41.463
as it, as it goes across the sky.

00:42:42.483 --> 00:42:46.913
It comes up, it's, when it's
rising, it's red, infrared,

00:42:46.913 --> 00:42:48.903
it's a real rich blend of red.

00:42:49.618 --> 00:42:57.178
And then when it hits about 10 degrees,
that's when UVA comes out and UVA tells

00:42:59.098 --> 00:43:05.808
our we have aromatic amino acids that
live in the back of our eyes and there's

00:43:05.808 --> 00:43:11.068
a super chiasmotic nucleus that goes
from our eye to our hypothalamus and

00:43:11.758 --> 00:43:13.958
the, these different spectrums tell.

00:43:14.733 --> 00:43:17.663
Tell these things to
do different processes.

00:43:17.663 --> 00:43:24.713
So UVA rise tells the tryptophan,
the, which is an aromatic amino acid

00:43:24.723 --> 00:43:29.743
to turn, to catalyze into serotonin,
which then at night that catalyzes

00:43:29.743 --> 00:43:32.463
into melatonin when darkness comes.

00:43:32.773 --> 00:43:37.443
So if you think about natural light,
it's doing all kinds of things.

00:43:37.823 --> 00:43:43.593
Artificial light is one spectrum and
it's a spectrum we don't understand.

00:43:44.918 --> 00:43:49.038
And if you have it on in the barn
all the time, I mean, luckily, most

00:43:49.038 --> 00:43:53.798
barns have, do get natural light that
comes in and kind of diffuses it.

00:43:57.028 --> 00:43:58.728
But if you, if you think about

00:44:00.738 --> 00:44:05.768
light coming from up above at
night, it's not, it's another

00:44:05.838 --> 00:44:07.608
strike against what's natural.

00:44:08.098 --> 00:44:11.050
So it should be a light
that's below our eye levels.

00:44:11.050 --> 00:44:12.053
That's it.

00:44:12.053 --> 00:44:15.698
That's a more diffused amber tone.

00:44:17.123 --> 00:44:22.083
Rupert Isaacson: I'm picturing a
riding arena with wall sconces with

00:44:22.643 --> 00:44:26.733
being thrown up like you might see
in a beautiful equestrian display.

00:44:27.403 --> 00:44:31.783
At some big equestrian show like Cavalia
that you've paid money to go see.

00:44:32.343 --> 00:44:37.853
And it's interesting how the lights in
those sorts of shows, of course, are

00:44:37.853 --> 00:44:42.283
always very warm and are very seldom.

00:44:42.878 --> 00:44:43.838
Bright top down.

00:44:44.668 --> 00:44:48.868
Yeah, it was to create the magical feel,
you know, or when you go to a romantic

00:44:48.888 --> 00:44:53.098
restaurant, you know, you don't want
this Intimidation like lighting up all

00:44:53.098 --> 00:44:56.488
the pores on your face in like every
little blemish you've got you want.

00:44:56.558 --> 00:44:56.918
Shea Stewart: Yeah

00:44:57.138 --> 00:44:58.298
Rupert Isaacson: candlelight
to kind of you know

00:44:58.948 --> 00:44:59.338
Shea Stewart: Yeah,

00:44:59.548 --> 00:45:03.588
Rupert Isaacson: the best in you And
it's so interesting that the therapeutic

00:45:03.588 --> 00:45:10.183
environments that we work in are not
lit like that and I'm thinking back

00:45:10.183 --> 00:45:13.923
to when I was a boy although in our
stable yard, yeah, we had electricity.

00:45:14.193 --> 00:45:17.763
There was no, like, big light that
came on when you went out into

00:45:17.813 --> 00:45:23.173
the stable yard, like, the sort of
stuff that's just so ubiquitous now.

00:45:23.603 --> 00:45:28.843
I remember when those came in, you know,
and we put one in, and it was awful.

00:45:29.253 --> 00:45:29.853
Awful.

00:45:30.233 --> 00:45:31.513
And people got very excited.

00:45:31.513 --> 00:45:32.163
Oh, yes, great.

00:45:32.193 --> 00:45:34.383
Because we can really see
what we're doing at night now.

00:45:34.393 --> 00:45:36.693
And I remember thinking,
Oh, yeah, but it's so harsh.

00:45:37.073 --> 00:45:38.013
It hurts.

00:45:38.753 --> 00:45:41.943
Yeah, all that we went out with
torches, or we went out with

00:45:42.473 --> 00:45:44.143
actually kerosene lanterns.

00:45:44.813 --> 00:45:45.343
Yeah.

00:45:45.563 --> 00:45:48.293
But of course, there's how to, you
know, the problem of, well, what if you

00:45:48.293 --> 00:45:49.893
dropped it and set fire to your plan?

00:45:49.893 --> 00:45:52.403
There were some limitations to those.

00:45:52.873 --> 00:45:56.223
But nonetheless, things felt more human.

00:45:56.813 --> 00:45:57.883
Okay, so

00:46:00.043 --> 00:46:03.663
if this type of lighting, for
example, Oh, just one, one last

00:46:03.663 --> 00:46:07.013
thing about people keeping their
horses in an ideal situations.

00:46:07.263 --> 00:46:09.993
I was just doing a, this
is a tip for people.

00:46:09.993 --> 00:46:13.633
If, if you're in this position, I saw
something really good in Rotterdam.

00:46:13.633 --> 00:46:17.993
I was just in very urban situation
in the Netherlands a few weeks ago.

00:46:18.443 --> 00:46:22.293
And These guys, they've
got no, no grazing at all.

00:46:22.333 --> 00:46:29.593
They've got a covered arena, and
then they've got an area of maybe 20

00:46:30.383 --> 00:46:35.133
feet around it, which they fenced off
that the horses can wander around in.

00:46:35.413 --> 00:46:35.773
And that's it.

00:46:39.153 --> 00:46:44.973
But the horses have free access to
wander in and out, which is interesting.

00:46:45.103 --> 00:46:49.733
And one of the first things they do in
the morning, so the horses stand on sort

00:46:49.733 --> 00:46:53.053
of wood chippings, but the wood chippings
often get churned up and a bit muddy.

00:46:53.053 --> 00:46:55.923
And so there's dry areas, wet
areas, this sort of thing.

00:46:56.543 --> 00:47:01.173
And the first thing which the person
coming in to sort of do the horses in

00:47:01.173 --> 00:47:06.333
the morning did was go cut a bunch of
willow because of course it's, it's The

00:47:06.333 --> 00:47:11.213
Netherlands so everything is even in even
urban there's water and willows kind of

00:47:11.223 --> 00:47:14.743
everywhere young ones and just cut cut
cut cut cut cut and then Chuck that in

00:47:14.743 --> 00:47:19.863
for the horses to graze on nibble on
browse on and of course as we know willow

00:47:19.863 --> 00:47:25.453
is also medicinal It's also deals with
pain deals with it and several times in

00:47:25.453 --> 00:47:27.723
the day They were going out and cutting
stuff like this and sort of throwing

00:47:27.723 --> 00:47:32.853
it in there to enrich the environment
And then the other thing which we were

00:47:32.853 --> 00:47:38.133
doing was a lot of what we call crazy
time, which is just flat out encouraged

00:47:38.363 --> 00:47:44.263
interactive play with the horses,
effectively free jumping in groups but

00:47:44.263 --> 00:47:48.763
changing the obstacles every two minutes
to keep the horses like, Ooh, a new thing.

00:47:48.813 --> 00:47:52.093
Ooh, you know, and and then making
these into the therapy sessions

00:47:52.113 --> 00:47:54.943
themselves so that instead of trying
to think oh shit I've got to do the

00:47:54.943 --> 00:47:56.263
crazy time before the kids come.

00:47:56.423 --> 00:47:59.093
It's like no no No We're gonna do
that with with the kids and keep

00:47:59.093 --> 00:48:02.763
them safe while we do it and teach
them horsemanship and teach them math

00:48:02.763 --> 00:48:06.293
because we're gonna Measure out the
distances and the heights and da da

00:48:06.293 --> 00:48:07.873
da and then we're gonna do physics.

00:48:07.873 --> 00:48:12.493
We're gonna do speed by getting distance
over time You know, timing them.

00:48:12.693 --> 00:48:14.703
We know how many meters
it is down that long side.

00:48:14.863 --> 00:48:15.753
How fast are they going?

00:48:15.753 --> 00:48:17.723
How fast can you run down that thing?

00:48:17.923 --> 00:48:21.243
And so we found ways to
incorporate this kind of well

00:48:21.253 --> 00:48:24.803
being into this non ideal area.

00:48:24.953 --> 00:48:27.563
I just wanted to throw that in
there because, you know, a lot of

00:48:27.563 --> 00:48:29.833
us are dealing with less than ideal.

00:48:30.153 --> 00:48:35.183
Shea Stewart: I also, I know
some, somebody who feeds in

00:48:35.183 --> 00:48:36.793
the winter feeds her horse.

00:48:37.258 --> 00:48:40.598
Just whatever is around in nature.

00:48:42.128 --> 00:48:49.798
So that's the other thing is we, we end
up feeding them hays that are imported.

00:48:49.798 --> 00:48:54.938
Sometimes you have to, but I would
encourage people to feed try to get

00:48:54.938 --> 00:49:00.198
grass hays that are grown as local
as possible or as close to your

00:49:00.198 --> 00:49:07.418
latitude as possible because the,
our mitochondria looks at food.

00:49:07.743 --> 00:49:10.573
As an electron, a light source.

00:49:10.923 --> 00:49:11.383
Rupert Isaacson: Hmm.

00:49:11.863 --> 00:49:17.673
Shea Stewart: So in, in the
quantum world, eating out of season

00:49:19.123 --> 00:49:24.623
and the non local food is, can
actually be considered a toxin.

00:49:24.713 --> 00:49:33.413
So like if you live in Germany, you
should not be eating a pineapple

00:49:34.443 --> 00:49:36.393
was imported from Costa Rica.

00:49:37.158 --> 00:49:39.218
In December,

00:49:41.478 --> 00:49:47.208
because you're, you're sending your body
the wrong light signaling and it's the

00:49:47.208 --> 00:49:51.298
same with horses, try to get them food.

00:49:51.308 --> 00:49:52.588
That's as local as.

00:49:53.813 --> 00:49:55.403
Seasonal is possible.

00:49:56.583 --> 00:49:57.063
Rupert Isaacson: Yeah.

00:49:57.063 --> 00:49:58.383
It's, it's interesting.

00:49:58.493 --> 00:50:01.943
We go out, we we're in a big
apple growing area in this bit of

00:50:01.943 --> 00:50:03.233
Germany that we're in right now.

00:50:03.793 --> 00:50:07.873
A lot of the apples go un
harvested and a lot of them in

00:50:07.873 --> 00:50:09.643
our area are heirloom there.

00:50:11.073 --> 00:50:12.303
Old, old varieties.

00:50:12.633 --> 00:50:16.563
Mm-hmm . And so a lot, a lot of the
orchards aren't even tended anymore.

00:50:16.563 --> 00:50:16.593
Oh.

00:50:17.183 --> 00:50:21.583
And so one of the things I do
with the kids that come in the

00:50:21.583 --> 00:50:24.358
winter is we go and we collect
apples and pears that have fallen.

00:50:25.373 --> 00:50:26.983
And fill up great wheelbarrows with them.

00:50:27.613 --> 00:50:29.833
And it's cool, because we get to
see that the wild boar have also

00:50:29.833 --> 00:50:31.753
been there before us, and they've
been, you know, chewing it up.

00:50:32.163 --> 00:50:33.033
So you learn a lot.

00:50:33.308 --> 00:50:39.668
And then we have throwing matches to throw
them into the areas where the horses are.

00:50:39.978 --> 00:50:41.748
You can throw them, you can
bounce one off the roof.

00:50:41.778 --> 00:50:44.108
You can, and I've got horses
that you can bounce them off

00:50:44.108 --> 00:50:45.128
the horse and they don't care.

00:50:45.138 --> 00:50:47.248
It's like, can you get one
off Hidalgo's butt, you know?

00:50:47.648 --> 00:50:49.118
And they love it, of course.

00:50:49.158 --> 00:50:53.088
And, but of course, what we're doing
is giving the horses brows that they

00:50:53.088 --> 00:50:54.928
would normally have access to that.

00:50:55.148 --> 00:50:58.428
Maybe they might not because I don't
happen to own that, that orchard.

00:50:58.908 --> 00:50:59.958
I can't tell you that.

00:51:00.348 --> 00:51:02.068
And one can have a lot of
fun with this kind of thing.

00:51:02.118 --> 00:51:05.368
It's interesting that you talk about
things as a source of light and

00:51:05.398 --> 00:51:07.698
electrical energy, food, and so on.

00:51:07.808 --> 00:51:12.148
I think this is something that's really
good to draw people's attention to.

00:51:12.618 --> 00:51:16.058
That everything does come down
to light at the end of the day.

00:51:16.058 --> 00:51:18.128
And that's a really hard thing to get
your head around, is that, that's not

00:51:18.618 --> 00:51:22.738
light, that's an apple, or that's not
light, that's a doughnut, you know or

00:51:22.738 --> 00:51:29.148
that's a thing that's dense and solid
and absorbs light, or reflects light off

00:51:29.148 --> 00:51:30.958
it perhaps, but it's not itself light.

00:51:31.318 --> 00:51:34.688
But of course, everything
kind of is light.

00:51:34.708 --> 00:51:41.278
Can you explain to layman's terms
why sort of everything is light?

00:51:42.038 --> 00:51:44.238
In a way that doesn't make them
just think, oh, this is weird.

00:51:45.038 --> 00:51:50.528
Shea Stewart: Yeah well, everything,
you can look at it as a frequency.

00:51:50.798 --> 00:51:51.198
Rupert Isaacson: Okay.

00:51:52.358 --> 00:51:54.388
Everything has an electrical
frequency, that is true.

00:51:54.858 --> 00:51:57.108
You can plug a battery
into a potato, for example.

00:51:57.848 --> 00:51:59.038
Shea Stewart: Yeah, exactly.

00:51:59.148 --> 00:51:59.478
Rupert Isaacson: Right.

00:52:00.188 --> 00:52:00.638
Shea Stewart: Yeah.

00:52:01.998 --> 00:52:02.108
Rupert Isaacson: Okay.

00:52:02.128 --> 00:52:03.778
Shea Stewart: Even, yeah.

00:52:06.728 --> 00:52:08.938
Rupert Isaacson: So what you're
saying is some frequencies are

00:52:08.938 --> 00:52:10.088
good for you and some are not.

00:52:10.948 --> 00:52:11.578
Shea Stewart: Correct.

00:52:11.858 --> 00:52:12.278
Rupert Isaacson: Okay.

00:52:13.008 --> 00:52:15.758
Shea Stewart: And our,
and this is something

00:52:15.798 --> 00:52:22.908
This is just not, not something
that's, it's, it's been studied a lot.

00:52:23.478 --> 00:52:24.088
Robert O.

00:52:24.088 --> 00:52:29.208
Becker, John Ott, there's all kinds
of scientists that have studied this.

00:52:31.348 --> 00:52:38.263
Unfortunately, it's not been adapted
into our healthcare system because To

00:52:38.303 --> 00:52:44.723
improve mitochondrial function, there's
not really a profit and, and things for

00:52:44.723 --> 00:52:52.613
us to do, like get outside, ditch your
sunglasses, turn the Wi Fi off at night,

00:52:52.613 --> 00:52:54.193
you know, all those things are free.

00:52:54.343 --> 00:52:58.343
These are free things we can do
to improve mitochondrial function.

00:52:59.183 --> 00:53:02.823
And there, and we look

00:53:05.363 --> 00:53:11.483
at mitochondria can, they can be looked
at as our sixth sense, because they.

00:53:12.043 --> 00:53:19.293
They sense that the electromagnetic fields
around us, they sense the lights and they,

00:53:19.373 --> 00:53:22.033
they do things with that information.

00:53:22.053 --> 00:53:27.183
It's all information that,
that our bodies receiving to.

00:53:28.023 --> 00:53:33.683
To do special things, and one of the
most important things that our body

00:53:33.693 --> 00:53:38.423
does with that information is make
internal water, our internal fluid

00:53:38.423 --> 00:53:44.453
body, and then there are things that
prevent our mitochondria from doing

00:53:44.453 --> 00:53:47.543
that, and those are the non native EMS,

00:53:48.623 --> 00:53:49.873
Rupert Isaacson: the
electromagnetic fields.

00:53:51.308 --> 00:53:55.448
Shea Stewart: The ones that are
not, are man made are, are causing

00:53:55.508 --> 00:54:00.818
mitochondrial damage and preventing
our fluid body, preventing our

00:54:00.818 --> 00:54:08.388
mitochondria from making the water it
needs, the water that our cells need.

00:54:09.048 --> 00:54:13.968
Our internal water is, is actually
more important than the water we drink.

00:54:14.968 --> 00:54:20.688
And it's like, you can look at our
fluid body or our internal water as.

00:54:20.928 --> 00:54:26.128
As a part of our anatomy, it's an
anatomical structure, so to speak,

00:54:26.588 --> 00:54:32.998
that gets highly ignored, yet it's
very important to, to have that inner

00:54:32.998 --> 00:54:38.408
hydration for everything to be optimal.

00:54:40.218 --> 00:54:45.038
Rupert Isaacson: Why might we want
to turn off the Wi Fi at night?

00:54:46.658 --> 00:54:53.788
Shea Stewart: Well, so, like I said
earlier, our, the only electromagnetic

00:54:53.868 --> 00:54:59.728
field that our body recognizes is
comes from the sun and the earth and

00:55:00.218 --> 00:55:06.548
there's a spectrum like the Schumann
resonance is, is anywhere from 7.

00:55:06.808 --> 00:55:14.308
83 to 20 hertz, you know, fluctuates
and our alpha wave of our brain is 7.

00:55:14.308 --> 00:55:16.168
83 hertz.

00:55:17.813 --> 00:55:22.083
And so we, you know, those, that's
a resonance that we're supposed

00:55:22.093 --> 00:55:27.573
to be part of the geomagnetic
pulse, the mayor wave is, is 0.

00:55:28.023 --> 00:55:30.823
1 Hertz, which is that six.

00:55:31.358 --> 00:55:37.918
Cycles per minute thing that I talked
about earlier, the, the motion of our

00:55:38.558 --> 00:55:43.188
cranial rhythmic impulse, the motion
that our, our cerebral spinal fluid, the,

00:55:43.318 --> 00:55:49.258
the, the measurement of that wave going
up down our spine is 7 cycles a minute.

00:55:50.498 --> 00:55:53.788
Rupert Isaacson: By the way, for
listeners, it's called a Schumann

00:55:53.788 --> 00:56:00.318
Resonance, not because the German composer
Schumann wrote his beautiful music to

00:56:00.318 --> 00:56:03.528
this resonance, because it sounds like it
ought to be, oh, a resonance by Schumann.

00:56:03.748 --> 00:56:04.378
That sounds very nice.

00:56:04.648 --> 00:56:09.988
It's actually after Otto, another
German, Otto Schumann or Wiener Fried

00:56:12.848 --> 00:56:18.118
Schumann who first studied the theoretical
aspects of the global resonance as the

00:56:18.178 --> 00:56:24.338
earth ionosphere wave guide system known
today as the Schumann res resonance.

00:56:24.678 --> 00:56:31.588
And in 1952 to 1954, Schumann
together with Aman Konig attempted

00:56:31.588 --> 00:56:33.478
to measure the resident frequencies.

00:56:33.578 --> 00:56:35.738
But it was not until measurements
were made by some called.

00:56:36.678 --> 00:56:42.048
Beiser and Wagner in 1960 to 1962,
the adequate analysis techniques were

00:56:42.048 --> 00:56:44.928
available to extract the resonance
information from the background

00:56:44.928 --> 00:56:48.973
noise since Then there has been
an increasing interest in Schumann

00:56:49.783 --> 00:56:51.953
resonances in a variety of fields.

00:56:51.963 --> 00:56:55.803
So yeah, it's, this is, this goes
back to early 20th century science.

00:56:55.803 --> 00:57:00.313
It's not something new and it's not
invented by hippies like Rupert.

00:57:00.653 --> 00:57:00.903
Yeah.

00:57:02.313 --> 00:57:04.663
Or sadly, by the composer Schumann.

00:57:06.023 --> 00:57:07.893
But what's interesting is
what you're talking about.

00:57:07.893 --> 00:57:09.603
They're slowing things down effectively.

00:57:09.603 --> 00:57:14.833
That Something like 5G, it's fast, right?

00:57:14.833 --> 00:57:16.213
It's, that's the whole point.

00:57:16.753 --> 00:57:16.933
It's

00:57:16.933 --> 00:57:17.383
Shea Stewart: supposed to be.

00:57:17.383 --> 00:57:17.384
Yeah.

00:57:17.384 --> 00:57:21.473
Lemme Yeah, I, I was just looking
for my building biology notes.

00:57:21.683 --> 00:57:24.953
I don't know if I can find
them this quick, but basically

00:57:25.003 --> 00:57:29.043
wifi is like what, 2.5

00:57:29.043 --> 00:57:31.053
to five gigahertz.

00:57:31.323 --> 00:57:31.413
Rupert Isaacson: Yeah.

00:57:31.443 --> 00:57:32.553
Shea Stewart: So a Hertz.

00:57:33.158 --> 00:57:36.038
Is one vibration

00:57:39.418 --> 00:57:41.538
per second?

00:57:41.838 --> 00:57:44.668
Is it one vibration per
second or per minute?

00:57:45.218 --> 00:57:45.828
That's what I wanted.

00:57:46.238 --> 00:57:46.598
A minute

00:57:46.598 --> 00:57:47.138
Rupert Isaacson: sounds very slow.

00:57:47.398 --> 00:57:48.488
I'm looking it up with you.

00:57:48.738 --> 00:57:50.018
So it's quite good listeners.

00:57:50.018 --> 00:57:51.458
We're not pretending to be gurus here.

00:57:52.128 --> 00:57:53.178
Yeah, I mean.

00:57:53.188 --> 00:57:55.468
We need to consult our notes too.

00:57:55.478 --> 00:57:59.778
So, what, how fast, what speed?

00:58:00.913 --> 00:58:01.343
Is

00:58:07.333 --> 00:58:09.683
one cycle per second

00:58:10.173 --> 00:58:12.553
Shea Stewart: per second,
one vibration per second.

00:58:13.183 --> 00:58:14.913
So a gigahertz.

00:58:16.613 --> 00:58:20.523
And this is why I wanted to look at
my building biology notes because I

00:58:20.533 --> 00:58:23.203
have a oh, I know where I have it.

00:58:25.123 --> 00:58:28.193
It's like 1 billion vibrations per second.

00:58:29.193 --> 00:58:30.183
Rupert Isaacson: That's quite fast.

00:58:30.183 --> 00:58:30.433
Yeah.

00:58:30.843 --> 00:58:31.383
Shea Stewart: Yeah.

00:58:32.033 --> 00:58:32.643
So

00:58:35.083 --> 00:58:38.983
if you think about that
vibration on our biology,

00:58:39.303 --> 00:58:39.573
Rupert Isaacson: I see.

00:58:40.048 --> 00:58:44.628
Shea Stewart: When we're the
fastest the fastest one we're

00:58:44.628 --> 00:58:49.728
used to is maybe up to 100 Hertz,

00:58:50.148 --> 00:58:50.738
Rupert Isaacson: right?

00:58:50.988 --> 00:58:54.988
Shea Stewart: Probably probably but the

00:58:54.988 --> 00:58:58.218
Rupert Isaacson: earth and the Sun it's
roughly in the six to seven range, right?

00:58:59.028 --> 00:58:59.658
And

00:59:01.778 --> 00:59:04.688
Yeah, the alpha brainwaves state
which is the sort of meditative

00:59:04.688 --> 00:59:07.663
state yes Eight to twelve.

00:59:08.263 --> 00:59:09.233
Shea Stewart: Yeah, about seven.

00:59:09.233 --> 00:59:10.583
It's the same as a human resonant.

00:59:11.003 --> 00:59:11.543
Rupert Isaacson: Right.

00:59:11.683 --> 00:59:12.183
Okay.

00:59:12.223 --> 00:59:17.453
And then the beta brainwave,
which is our sort of cheerful.

00:59:17.573 --> 00:59:17.948
All right.

00:59:17.948 --> 00:59:18.573
All right, Shay.

00:59:18.733 --> 00:59:19.763
Cup of tea, cup of tea show.

00:59:19.803 --> 00:59:20.693
How do you like your tea?

00:59:20.823 --> 00:59:21.443
Milk, no sugar.

00:59:21.483 --> 00:59:22.363
Lovely jubbly.

00:59:22.533 --> 00:59:26.603
That sort of functional,
cheerful going through life.

00:59:27.033 --> 00:59:31.333
That's our seems to be our
fastest functional one between 12

00:59:33.343 --> 00:59:34.693
and 35 hertz.

00:59:34.693 --> 00:59:37.283
It's a big range, but it can also.

00:59:38.398 --> 00:59:41.978
Be it's your your attention's on
but there can be anxiety involved

00:59:41.978 --> 00:59:46.408
with that one alpha brainwave
very relaxed Passive attention.

00:59:46.838 --> 00:59:49.048
That's 8 to 12 theta brainwave.

00:59:49.308 --> 00:59:52.508
Do you put meditation 4 to 8 hertz?

00:59:52.528 --> 00:59:54.028
Now we're going down below

00:59:54.588 --> 00:59:55.108
Shea Stewart: Yeah

00:59:55.533 --> 00:59:58.223
Rupert Isaacson: The Schumann
resonance, deeply relaxed, inwardly

00:59:58.223 --> 01:00:01.553
focused, and then the delta, which is

01:00:01.553 --> 01:00:02.153
Shea Stewart: 0.

01:00:02.453 --> 01:00:03.063
5

01:00:03.103 --> 01:00:06.293
Rupert Isaacson: to 4, which is
rapid eye movement sleep, right?

01:00:06.663 --> 01:00:07.733
Shea Stewart: Yeah, and that, that 0.

01:00:07.733 --> 01:00:12.653
1 Hertz, which is the same motion
of our cerebral spinal fluid.

01:00:13.103 --> 01:00:13.653
Right,

01:00:13.713 --> 01:00:14.193
Rupert Isaacson: okay.

01:00:14.823 --> 01:00:17.763
Shea Stewart: So the, yeah, those
are, those are the frequencies.

01:00:17.773 --> 01:00:18.033
Now

01:00:18.033 --> 01:00:23.453
Rupert Isaacson: talk to us about
cerebral spinal fluid and frequencies,

01:00:23.473 --> 01:00:27.223
because I know cerebral spinal fluid

01:00:29.643 --> 01:00:30.673
a couple of angles.

01:00:31.223 --> 01:00:35.363
One is that the more of it you have,
isosacral rocking is a good thing

01:00:35.363 --> 01:00:39.883
for that because it makes you produce
more of it, your stem cells that

01:00:40.513 --> 01:00:47.723
replace the dead cells of your heart
and brain, which are all neurons, get

01:00:47.723 --> 01:00:53.363
replaced more efficiently, a bit like a
factory conveyor belt operating better.

01:00:53.653 --> 01:00:57.293
So if you've got more cerebral spinal
fluid, that's just all happening better.

01:00:57.833 --> 01:00:59.993
The cerebral spinal fluid is also a crash.

01:01:00.928 --> 01:01:04.798
Sort of not helmet, but a shock absorber
between your skull and your brain.

01:01:04.798 --> 01:01:09.168
That's quite useful for those of us that
like to fall off horses, and, Also, it

01:01:09.288 --> 01:01:12.998
can, it makes your spine more elastic,
so it's to do with your biological age,

01:01:13.318 --> 01:01:17.098
you know, you, you, you feel appear
and actually sort of are biologically

01:01:17.098 --> 01:01:18.988
younger when you have more of it.

01:01:19.318 --> 01:01:21.728
And of course, within that,
there's, there's also the theory

01:01:21.728 --> 01:01:25.858
that around the pineal gland, you
were talking about melatonin being

01:01:26.048 --> 01:01:30.088
whether serotonin, the pineal
gland, among other things, you know.

01:01:30.518 --> 01:01:33.508
changes our serotonin into melatonin.

01:01:33.688 --> 01:01:35.098
Sera gets us up in the morning.

01:01:35.108 --> 01:01:36.358
Mel puts us to bed at night.

01:01:36.398 --> 01:01:37.078
That's very nice.

01:01:37.458 --> 01:01:42.348
But if there's enough cerebral spinal
fluid pressing around the pineal gland

01:01:42.348 --> 01:01:46.778
it can cause that melatonin to go
through another molecular shift and

01:01:46.778 --> 01:01:50.778
become dimethyltryptamine through an
electrical charge, through friction of

01:01:51.158 --> 01:01:54.348
little crystals being rubbed together
in the pineal gland, pushed by that.

01:01:54.808 --> 01:01:58.858
Fluid from the outside and of course
dimethyltryptamine DMT is strong

01:01:58.868 --> 01:02:03.038
hallucinogen and makes us see God and
angels and things That's all rather nice

01:02:06.198 --> 01:02:10.588
There's much more to cerebral spinal
fluid than that and liquid intelligence

01:02:11.248 --> 01:02:18.708
these frequencies To slow things
down or to speed things up if the

01:02:18.708 --> 01:02:23.368
cerebral spinal fluid is one of the
intelligent liquids in our bodies

01:02:24.958 --> 01:02:27.498
helping mitochondria Do its thing.

01:02:28.318 --> 01:02:37.618
Well, how does a slow frequency
Beneficially affect of light or whatever

01:02:37.928 --> 01:02:43.388
Back to the lighting in the barn or
the 5G that might be floating about How

01:02:43.388 --> 01:02:47.828
does slowing that down, so changing the
lighting, switching off the Wi Fi at

01:02:47.828 --> 01:02:52.528
night Help the cerebral spinal fluid do
its thing better for the mitochondria

01:02:52.858 --> 01:02:56.478
And how does speeding it up not help?

01:03:00.068 --> 01:03:00.688
Shea Stewart: So

01:03:00.918 --> 01:03:02.838
Rupert Isaacson: in verse,
please Shakespearean verse,

01:03:04.808 --> 01:03:06.528
Shea Stewart: I'll try my best to do that.

01:03:06.968 --> 01:03:08.558
Rupert Isaacson: There was a
young man from Australia, sorry,

01:03:10.388 --> 01:03:15.718
Shea Stewart: if you break it
down even more quantum and go and

01:03:15.948 --> 01:03:19.148
think about the water in our body,

01:03:21.778 --> 01:03:30.338
water has been proven now that it carries
information, it holds, it stores memory.

01:03:31.898 --> 01:03:37.808
It transmits information that's what
cerebral spinal fluid does as well.

01:03:38.058 --> 01:03:41.408
It's like a liquid, liquid
crystalline structure

01:03:44.978 --> 01:03:45.578
and

01:03:48.878 --> 01:03:56.398
we need our, one of like the rocking
the, the sacral rocking it does.

01:03:56.508 --> 01:04:01.348
It, it does enhance the cerebral
spinal fluid flow, but another

01:04:01.348 --> 01:04:03.068
thing that that's doing is it's.

01:04:03.658 --> 01:04:03.888
Is.

01:04:04.423 --> 01:04:09.253
Helping the mitochondria produce
electrons is one of the ways we

01:04:09.253 --> 01:04:11.283
get electrons is through movement,

01:04:13.233 --> 01:04:13.653
Rupert Isaacson: okay?

01:04:14.453 --> 01:04:14.913
Shea Stewart: And

01:04:16.083 --> 01:04:18.363
Rupert Isaacson: yeah, like a
dynamo battery friction produces.

01:04:18.373 --> 01:04:19.093
Yeah movement.

01:04:19.643 --> 01:04:20.193
Shea Stewart: Yeah

01:04:20.653 --> 01:04:20.813
Rupert Isaacson: Okay,

01:04:21.943 --> 01:04:26.453
Shea Stewart: and then the other ways
we get electrons is through light

01:04:26.453 --> 01:04:35.943
frequencies So if these frequencies are
too fast from Wi Fi I finally found my

01:04:36.013 --> 01:04:41.618
building biologist notes Okay, later Wi Fi

01:04:43.798 --> 01:04:43.808
5G.

01:04:43.928 --> 01:04:47.738
Yeah, Wi Fi is good in
the gigahertz range range.

01:04:48.288 --> 01:04:51.268
Mobile phones are in the gigahertz range.

01:04:51.278 --> 01:04:56.508
So when we're when we're getting
bombarded with those pulses.

01:04:57.443 --> 01:05:03.053
It's preventing our mitochondria from
making the internal water we need.

01:05:03.413 --> 01:05:10.223
It's also just, which that will then
disrupt the flow of cerebral spinal fluid.

01:05:10.278 --> 01:05:17.568
It destructures the water, because
remember this, our water, our

01:05:17.588 --> 01:05:22.318
internal water needs to be in
a structured, coherent state,

01:05:22.708 --> 01:05:30.948
which means it, it has geometric
patterning within the water molecule.

01:05:33.418 --> 01:05:38.578
And, and when that, when we get
bombarded with these electromagnetic

01:05:38.578 --> 01:05:41.378
fields that are not native.

01:05:42.378 --> 01:05:44.808
It destructures that water, so

01:05:44.808 --> 01:05:47.248
Rupert Isaacson: it loses it,
smashes up the crystalline.

01:05:48.088 --> 01:05:52.078
Shea Stewart: Yeah, they, they lose their
ability to communicate with that carries

01:05:52.078 --> 01:05:52.878
Rupert Isaacson: the information

01:05:52.878 --> 01:05:54.448
Shea Stewart: to

01:05:54.728 --> 01:05:55.328
Rupert Isaacson: do its thing.

01:05:55.958 --> 01:05:57.668
Shea Stewart: It's like a tuning fork.

01:05:57.898 --> 01:06:02.138
If you hit a tuning fork, the
tuning fork that has that same

01:06:02.138 --> 01:06:04.268
vibration will, will vibrate.

01:06:04.578 --> 01:06:04.968
Rupert Isaacson: Mm.

01:06:05.483 --> 01:06:09.823
Shea Stewart: Or if you have a that's
kind of what the water's doing as it,

01:06:10.083 --> 01:06:16.883
and it goes through our, our body way
faster than biochemistry can move.

01:06:17.943 --> 01:06:22.983
So, you can also think of
it as a symphony orchestra.

01:06:24.703 --> 01:06:30.143
And all of a sudden, you know,
the clarinet, the reed broke and

01:06:31.073 --> 01:06:33.573
it's squeaking instead of playing.

01:06:33.583 --> 01:06:35.373
And then the guy's freaking out.

01:06:35.373 --> 01:06:36.813
So he can't play anymore.

01:06:36.813 --> 01:06:39.483
And there's this tune that's,
that doesn't flow, right.

01:06:39.493 --> 01:06:44.093
It's going to disrupt the whole
sound coming from that orchestra.

01:06:44.503 --> 01:06:45.983
That's, that's, what's happening.

01:06:46.283 --> 01:06:50.133
And, and our body when we're,
we're getting exposed to these

01:06:50.133 --> 01:06:54.243
things and, and we're all exposed
to them because it's everywhere.

01:06:54.583 --> 01:07:00.443
All we can do is try to try
to mitigate it as best we can.

01:07:02.043 --> 01:07:08.403
And there it's when, when our body is not
able to make the internal water, we need

01:07:11.793 --> 01:07:19.263
the cells lose that positive charge
and then then health declines.

01:07:20.953 --> 01:07:21.343
How is

01:07:21.343 --> 01:07:23.693
Rupert Isaacson: that linked
to inflammation and autoimmune?

01:07:25.583 --> 01:07:27.263
Shea Stewart: Well, that's
where it all starts.

01:07:27.313 --> 01:07:29.463
Inflammation is bulk water.

01:07:29.473 --> 01:07:32.823
Inflammation is water that
no longer has a structure.

01:07:33.173 --> 01:07:40.578
Rupert Isaacson: Ah, so if you
disrupt the crystalline structure, of

01:07:40.618 --> 01:07:46.238
the water that is carrying all this
biological information around and is

01:07:46.238 --> 01:07:52.858
electrically charged in a certain way
to put that information into action.

01:07:52.888 --> 01:07:59.528
If you disrupt that with stuff
that's too fast, it becomes bulk

01:08:01.558 --> 01:08:07.178
water and builds up rather than flowing
through, and that's inflammation.

01:08:07.708 --> 01:08:12.058
And then that triggers autoimmune
stuff as well as chronic pain,

01:08:12.278 --> 01:08:14.968
mitochondrial disorders, fibromyalgia.

01:08:15.898 --> 01:08:21.758
Shea Stewart: Yeah, and yeah,
fibromyalgia, MS and my one of my

01:08:21.818 --> 01:08:30.248
quantum biology groups, there's a lot of
people that are very sick in these and

01:08:30.268 --> 01:08:34.298
just by addressing their mitochondria
health, they're getting better.

01:08:36.078 --> 01:08:43.858
So I know a couple of people that
have diagnosed MS and it's, they don't

01:08:43.858 --> 01:08:46.708
have any signs of it anymore just by.

01:08:49.503 --> 01:08:51.583
They had to make huge changes.

01:08:51.853 --> 01:08:59.043
I mean, that a lot of people, you
know, might not be able to, but just

01:08:59.043 --> 01:09:05.373
by in, in fibromyalgia and I mean,
all kinds of autoimmune things.

01:09:05.373 --> 01:09:08.273
It's, it's just a
mitochondrial dysfunction.

01:09:08.353 --> 01:09:11.143
So we, we need to learn ways to.

01:09:13.613 --> 01:09:13.963
Rupert Isaacson: Right.

01:09:13.963 --> 01:09:16.063
So if we're working in environments where.

01:09:16.643 --> 01:09:22.023
There's just a ton of shit lighting and
adding to that maybe you've got some

01:09:22.023 --> 01:09:26.193
power lines nearby and adding to that,
maybe you've got 5G floating about

01:09:26.193 --> 01:09:29.103
and adding to that, you've got this
and adding to that, you've got that,

01:09:29.503 --> 01:09:31.383
you can expect some knock on effects.

01:09:31.963 --> 01:09:36.733
In yourself for non well being,
for your horses in non well being,

01:09:37.083 --> 01:09:39.403
and for the clients that you're
working with in non well being.

01:09:39.433 --> 01:09:40.063
That I get.

01:09:41.263 --> 01:09:47.203
So, we looked at some
potential mitigating solutions.

01:09:47.203 --> 01:09:50.723
You said you could change the lighting,
you could make it redder, you could make

01:09:50.723 --> 01:09:56.013
it more natural, you could make it more
from the ground up, not from the top down.

01:09:57.013 --> 01:09:59.513
You said you could switch
off the Wi Fi at night.

01:10:00.063 --> 01:10:05.393
Shea Stewart: The Wi Fi is huge
and, and then, and especially for

01:10:05.393 --> 01:10:07.563
children, if what about lights,

01:10:07.563 --> 01:10:09.583
Rupert Isaacson: what about security
lights that come on and off and

01:10:09.583 --> 01:10:13.303
that sort of thing through, let's
say it's in the barn, you know, and

01:10:13.303 --> 01:10:16.273
there's lights coming on and off, or

01:10:17.013 --> 01:10:19.263
Shea Stewart: I would
change them to red bulbs.

01:10:19.543 --> 01:10:19.973
Rupert Isaacson: Okay.

01:10:21.483 --> 01:10:21.893
Okay.

01:10:22.453 --> 01:10:25.713
So if you feel that you've got to have a
security light, change it to a red bulb.

01:10:26.358 --> 01:10:26.748
Yeah.

01:10:26.748 --> 01:10:28.618
At least if that's coming on and off.

01:10:28.898 --> 01:10:30.788
Shea Stewart: Yeah, you
can easily get red bulbs.

01:10:31.008 --> 01:10:35.788
Some people even get lighting
reptile lighting from the pet stores.

01:10:35.958 --> 01:10:36.488
Rupert Isaacson: Ooh.

01:10:36.888 --> 01:10:39.218
Shea Stewart: Cause those have,
you can get different spectrums.

01:10:39.238 --> 01:10:39.398
Oh

01:10:39.398 --> 01:10:41.098
Rupert Isaacson: yeah, the ones
that you use to hatch chickens.

01:10:41.758 --> 01:10:45.998
Shea Stewart: Yeah, those, and then
there's UV lights and yeah, there's

01:10:45.998 --> 01:10:47.998
all kinds of lights for lizards.

01:10:48.828 --> 01:10:49.298
Rupert Isaacson: Right.

01:10:49.348 --> 01:10:51.598
And those are okay after
dark if they come on?

01:10:52.628 --> 01:10:53.108
Shea Stewart: Mm hmm.

01:10:53.108 --> 01:10:53.193
Mm hmm.

01:10:53.503 --> 01:10:54.963
Yeah, I mean, you don't want them on.

01:10:54.973 --> 01:10:56.773
You want your lights low at night.

01:10:56.803 --> 01:11:00.423
You don't want these, you know, bright

01:11:02.433 --> 01:11:08.833
blinding lights and, and people, I
hear people complain that they, they

01:11:08.833 --> 01:11:12.183
don't see well, you know, they, they,
they don't have a good night vision.

01:11:12.713 --> 01:11:15.753
And that's a direct symptom of.

01:11:16.668 --> 01:11:21.488
Having too many lights on at night,
and not getting, and wearing sunglasses

01:11:21.488 --> 01:11:26.958
during the day, so your, your pupils are
losing that ability to, to fully dilate

01:11:26.978 --> 01:11:29.588
or fully contract so you can see properly.

01:11:32.408 --> 01:11:35.278
Rupert Isaacson: One of the other things
which we often encourage people to do

01:11:35.338 --> 01:11:40.078
with, say, horseboy movement method is
work outside, and the reason For that

01:11:40.168 --> 01:11:44.218
is just fewer bad sensory triggers,
of course, in nature, because we're an

01:11:44.218 --> 01:11:45.858
organism who have designed for nature.

01:11:45.858 --> 01:11:49.768
So do we want to be in an arena, which
is relatively sterile, or if possible,

01:11:49.768 --> 01:11:53.148
do we want to be out on planet Earth,
where, you know, we're supposed to

01:11:53.148 --> 01:11:55.888
be, and also we want the child or the.

01:11:56.258 --> 01:12:00.588
person to respond to the
natural world because that

01:12:00.688 --> 01:12:02.258
puts your brain on high alert.

01:12:02.258 --> 01:12:08.138
We want them walking places across
fields or on woodland paths where they

01:12:08.148 --> 01:12:10.658
have to think a bit about where they
put their feet because that creates

01:12:10.658 --> 01:12:16.118
the protein BDNF in the brain, brain
derived neurotrophic factor, increases

01:12:16.118 --> 01:12:17.518
cognitive function, blah, blah, blah.

01:12:17.808 --> 01:12:20.968
But what I hadn't thought about it
from a point of view before is of

01:12:20.968 --> 01:12:27.693
course if one goes outside then one
can get away from some of these Not

01:12:27.693 --> 01:12:29.403
so good what you're calling EMFs.

01:12:30.653 --> 01:12:39.313
So if one is working with one's clients
constantly in arena, client comes

01:12:39.313 --> 01:12:43.163
in, in the arena, Bobob, there's your
session, 10 minute break for a cup of

01:12:43.163 --> 01:12:46.563
tea, another client comes in for the
arena, Bobob, before you know it you've

01:12:46.563 --> 01:12:50.473
look up and you've spent 10 hours
in an arena and so have your horses.

01:12:51.023 --> 01:12:56.493
Is another reason to get out of
the arena for your work so that

01:12:56.503 --> 01:12:58.243
you can help your mitochondria?

01:12:59.043 --> 01:13:02.783
Shea Stewart: Oh, yeah, you need
to be out in that natural light

01:13:07.073 --> 01:13:08.813
Rupert Isaacson: It's something
because you know, we think oh, yeah

01:13:08.813 --> 01:13:15.053
natural light vitamin d people get
that but It's a relatively new concept.

01:13:15.053 --> 01:13:16.313
I think for a lot of people this idea.

01:13:16.363 --> 01:13:21.213
It'll help your mitochondria So what
again just because this is new for people.

01:13:21.213 --> 01:13:22.063
I know for you.

01:13:22.063 --> 01:13:25.573
This is you've gone where you
live in that rabbit hole, but

01:13:26.703 --> 01:13:27.573
You've got very long ears.

01:13:27.683 --> 01:13:28.693
Now they're very fetching.

01:13:28.983 --> 01:13:32.673
The For people who are still
getting to grips with that, why is

01:13:32.673 --> 01:13:36.765
being outside going to help their
mitochondria, and therefore help them

01:13:36.765 --> 01:13:40.688
with chronic pain, autoimmune, blah,
blah, blah, and their horses too, skin

01:13:40.688 --> 01:13:44.938
conditions, dah, dah, dah, you know,
why is the outside going to help?

01:13:46.288 --> 01:13:49.438
Shea Stewart: Because
we're circadian animals.

01:13:49.748 --> 01:13:50.228
Okay.

01:13:50.628 --> 01:14:01.378
We, we need to be in sync with the sun,
the light from the sun, the different

01:14:01.378 --> 01:14:06.248
rays from the sun, the different
light spectrums, and we need to be

01:14:06.548 --> 01:14:10.168
in sync with the darkness at night.

01:14:11.228 --> 01:14:18.768
And whenever we move away from that,
we're disrupting our circadian rhythm.

01:14:19.418 --> 01:14:23.608
And when that's disrupted,
that's when health declines.

01:14:23.688 --> 01:14:26.418
There's, there's been a lot
of studies on shift workers.

01:14:27.248 --> 01:14:32.518
And there are things that even
shift workers can do with mitigating

01:14:32.938 --> 01:14:34.708
disrupting the circadian rhythm.

01:14:34.718 --> 01:14:39.188
It just depends on, you know,
what their shift work is.

01:14:39.218 --> 01:14:44.488
But for people, another thing you can
do, of course, this doesn't help horses.

01:14:44.828 --> 01:14:50.648
If you're working in barns at night,
you can get blue blocking glasses.

01:14:51.868 --> 01:14:52.988
Rupert Isaacson: Blue blocking glasses.

01:14:52.998 --> 01:14:53.568
Interesting.

01:14:53.878 --> 01:14:54.068
Tell us.

01:14:56.368 --> 01:14:58.548
Shea Stewart: So blue
light blocking glasses.

01:14:58.548 --> 01:15:01.448
There's a lot of different
companies that make them.

01:15:01.528 --> 01:15:04.088
You just have to make
sure that they test them.

01:15:04.418 --> 01:15:07.938
So you can't go to Walmart and get
a pair of blue blocking readers.

01:15:07.938 --> 01:15:13.228
They have to be like the, the
blue, the daytime blue blocking

01:15:13.228 --> 01:15:16.518
glasses are yellow lenses.

01:15:16.868 --> 01:15:21.568
The nighttime blue blocking
glasses are red lenses.

01:15:22.198 --> 01:15:28.508
And You can also get orange lenses, lenses
for like in the morning or in the evening.

01:15:29.118 --> 01:15:33.168
If you still have a couple hours before
you want to start winding down for bed

01:15:33.718 --> 01:15:38.958
the light that comes through our
eyes, so I mentioned before, we have

01:15:39.028 --> 01:15:45.398
a nucleus that goes from our eye
to our hypothalamus and that's that

01:15:45.408 --> 01:15:47.858
basically sets our circadian clock.

01:15:48.488 --> 01:15:50.558
The suprachiasmatic nucleus.

01:15:52.908 --> 01:15:57.988
And we also have aromatic amino acids.

01:15:58.818 --> 01:16:04.898
We have non visual photoreceptors
in our eyes, but also all over

01:16:04.938 --> 01:16:06.908
our body, all over our skin.

01:16:08.338 --> 01:16:13.983
So our, that's why sunglasses are not
good, because Your eyes and your skin

01:16:14.033 --> 01:16:17.183
need to be on the same circadian rhythm.

01:16:18.633 --> 01:16:19.013
Rupert Isaacson: Right,

01:16:21.333 --> 01:16:21.643
right.

01:16:21.673 --> 01:16:22.773
No, this makes perfect sense.

01:16:22.813 --> 01:16:27.353
And, and this brings me back to
something else I wanted to highlight

01:16:27.353 --> 01:16:30.783
with your point about circadian rhythms.

01:16:31.328 --> 01:16:33.568
I, you need your proper sleep cycles.

01:16:33.568 --> 01:16:37.758
I, you need darkness, whether you're
a horse or whether you're a human or

01:16:37.968 --> 01:16:43.468
the human that you're serving that,
let's say we're giving advice to people

01:16:43.468 --> 01:16:44.748
to what to do when they can go home,

01:16:47.308 --> 01:16:48.618
cerebral spinal fluid.

01:16:48.778 --> 01:16:51.398
I just want to draw
people's attention to this.

01:16:51.738 --> 01:16:55.193
It's If you sleep well at night, it's
like a dishwasher for your brain,

01:16:56.073 --> 01:17:03.033
will flush waste material out of your
brain and they can now look at this on

01:17:03.043 --> 01:17:08.303
scans, it's not, it's all quite recent,
type it into Google, it's, it's, it's,

01:17:08.303 --> 01:17:11.303
whatever, it's well researched, it's,
it's, it's, it's nothing, woo woo.

01:17:11.303 --> 01:17:12.658
The glymphatics,

01:17:12.658 --> 01:17:14.013
Shea Stewart: the glymphatics.

01:17:14.863 --> 01:17:17.723
Rupert Isaacson: Right, so the National
Institute of Health, you know, has got

01:17:17.723 --> 01:17:23.013
a whole thing on it now and, but the
role of age, sleep, and cerebral spinal

01:17:23.013 --> 01:17:28.128
fluid, melatonin plaques in the brain,
needing to, you know, Flush those things

01:17:28.148 --> 01:17:33.068
out that one can't do that if one's
not in a proper circadian rhythm It's

01:17:33.068 --> 01:17:36.098
the cerebral spinal fluid that's doing
that that cerebral spinal fluid has

01:17:36.098 --> 01:17:40.878
to be as you say positively structured
and charged and the Mitochondria in

01:17:40.878 --> 01:17:44.918
there has to be optimal but we can
do all of that by kind of changing

01:17:44.918 --> 01:17:46.038
our lighting and being outside more

01:17:47.083 --> 01:17:52.723
Shea Stewart: Yeah, yeah, because our,
that, that cleaning that our cerebral

01:17:52.723 --> 01:17:58.863
spinal fluid does for our brain at
night is our cerebral spinal fluid is

01:17:58.863 --> 01:18:05.993
on a circadian rhythm and it relies on
melatonin to be released and melatonin

01:18:05.993 --> 01:18:11.443
is not only made in our pineal, pineal
gland, it's also made in our mitochondria.

01:18:11.848 --> 01:18:12.308
Rupert Isaacson: Okay,

01:18:13.728 --> 01:18:14.388
Shea Stewart: and

01:18:16.838 --> 01:18:22.198
and it's being made all day long
and then it's the night the darkness

01:18:22.238 --> 01:18:26.048
at night that tells it to Release

01:18:26.668 --> 01:18:27.148
Rupert Isaacson: got it.

01:18:27.678 --> 01:18:30.388
Shea Stewart: And if we don't
have that darkness at night

01:18:31.358 --> 01:18:33.358
the melatonin does not release.

01:18:33.818 --> 01:18:37.678
Therefore, the cerebral spinal
fluid doesn't do its job

01:18:37.688 --> 01:18:38.898
of cleaning out the brain.

01:18:38.898 --> 01:18:42.038
The glymphatic system gets sluggish.

01:18:43.908 --> 01:18:45.528
It's the same with eating at night.

01:18:45.778 --> 01:18:52.058
At night, our body starts to shut down
so it can go into all the healing and

01:18:52.058 --> 01:18:54.508
repair that it needs to do when we sleep.

01:18:54.598 --> 01:18:57.108
That's what, that's what sleep is for us.

01:18:57.828 --> 01:19:03.848
And if we eat past dark, that's when
people tend to get a lot of GI problems

01:19:03.878 --> 01:19:10.623
because Their body is Is trying to
shut down and things get the digestion

01:19:10.623 --> 01:19:13.193
actually gets slower at night,

01:19:15.133 --> 01:19:15.543
Rupert Isaacson: right?

01:19:15.613 --> 01:19:19.853
I'm also something else that just occurred
to me some of us, you know You do if you

01:19:19.853 --> 01:19:25.103
do get your circadian rhythm broken at
night and you go for a daytime nap that

01:19:25.103 --> 01:19:30.303
can also help reset this For I was just
looking at something from Johns Hopkins

01:19:31.393 --> 01:19:35.743
Medical Institute them saying that
yes, you can you can get this cerebral

01:19:35.743 --> 01:19:40.738
spinal fluid flush of your brain thing
happening with a a sort of 30 to 90

01:19:40.738 --> 01:19:42.198
minute nap in the middle of the day.

01:19:42.608 --> 01:19:45.678
But I do believe that it's still
so we should do that by the way.

01:19:45.678 --> 01:19:48.608
So go nap everybody now
pull over and go have a nap.

01:19:49.098 --> 01:19:51.048
But it's the nighttime sleep.

01:19:51.078 --> 01:19:52.258
That's the big one though, right?

01:19:52.318 --> 01:19:52.618
Yeah.

01:19:53.128 --> 01:19:53.558
Shea Stewart: Yeah.

01:19:53.798 --> 01:19:57.038
And there are things that
we can do that are easy.

01:19:57.388 --> 01:20:04.373
So And the, the complaint I hear is
from parents who have kids or kids

01:20:04.383 --> 01:20:08.733
go to bed and that's when they get
their little me time or whatever.

01:20:09.733 --> 01:20:14.493
And they're most people's wind down time.

01:20:15.923 --> 01:20:19.553
Now, nowadays is scrolling
on their phone, scrolling on

01:20:19.553 --> 01:20:21.483
their computer or watching TV.

01:20:21.823 --> 01:20:22.143
Rupert Isaacson: Yeah.

01:20:23.143 --> 01:20:25.903
Shea Stewart: And the thing that we
haven't talked about, we talked about

01:20:25.903 --> 01:20:32.423
the lights, but we didn't talk about the
lights on the screens and the, the, all

01:20:32.423 --> 01:20:42.273
these tech devices, TVs, computers, phones
are backlit with this intense blue light.

01:20:44.108 --> 01:20:50.238
And that's going to disrupt
your circadian rhythm.

01:20:50.638 --> 01:20:53.278
And it's also, it also has a flicker.

01:20:53.768 --> 01:20:55.138
And it's also

01:20:57.338 --> 01:21:01.068
is, can cause eye damage.

01:21:01.608 --> 01:21:07.168
People get afraid of the sun for
eye diseases, but it's not the sun.

01:21:07.188 --> 01:21:10.918
It's, it's the text screens
and the lights on at night.

01:21:12.028 --> 01:21:21.038
And there, there's a program, a software
program called Iris Tech that you can

01:21:21.038 --> 01:21:27.988
download on your computer, and it not only
gets rid of the flicker, but it changes

01:21:27.998 --> 01:21:30.518
color based on what time of day it is.

01:21:30.528 --> 01:21:33.248
So, at night, the computer looks red.

01:21:33.698 --> 01:21:36.678
So, like, right now, mine's
kind of an ambery color.

01:21:37.298 --> 01:21:43.608
And then your cell phones, you
can put I have mine where it's

01:21:43.608 --> 01:21:48.558
I'm having a bad tech day,
but I can, I can put mine.

01:21:48.578 --> 01:21:49.698
I don't know if you can see.

01:21:49.918 --> 01:21:50.328
Oh,

01:21:50.328 --> 01:21:50.458
Rupert Isaacson: yeah.

01:21:50.458 --> 01:21:51.008
You're holding it up.

01:21:51.248 --> 01:21:51.518
Yeah.

01:21:51.518 --> 01:21:53.668
Her cell phone is looking pretty red.

01:21:54.558 --> 01:21:54.998
Okay.

01:21:55.598 --> 01:21:55.888
Shea Stewart: Yeah.

01:21:55.888 --> 01:21:58.848
And this is what I do once
it starts to get dark.

01:21:59.178 --> 01:21:59.618
Rupert Isaacson: Okay.

01:22:00.068 --> 01:22:03.588
Shea Stewart: But I also wear
glasses that block the blue.

01:22:03.588 --> 01:22:04.918
Okay.

01:22:05.898 --> 01:22:08.418
The first, when I first
started learning this.

01:22:09.408 --> 01:22:15.948
It just made so much sense to me because
of my history in the cranial world.

01:22:16.408 --> 01:22:21.748
But the first thing I did was I
bought some red blue blocking glasses.

01:22:22.333 --> 01:22:29.093
And I put those on at night because I
sat down, watched TV and I put on those

01:22:29.093 --> 01:22:34.883
blue blocking glasses and like within an
hour, I was ready to go to bed 30 minutes.

01:22:34.883 --> 01:22:37.883
Maybe I was tired and I slept.

01:22:37.913 --> 01:22:42.503
And that morning I woke up when
the sun came up and I was like,

01:22:44.733 --> 01:22:46.053
completely rested.

01:22:46.093 --> 01:22:47.403
I wasn't tired.

01:22:48.263 --> 01:22:54.053
I didn't have to drag my ass
out of bed and go drink coffee.

01:22:54.093 --> 01:22:56.163
I was just up and I felt good.

01:22:57.428 --> 01:23:03.388
And the second thing I incorporated was
getting outside to watch the sun rise.

01:23:05.708 --> 01:23:10.218
And those two things have
been life changing for me.

01:23:10.268 --> 01:23:11.678
And they're easy to do.

01:23:12.318 --> 01:23:13.878
Rupert Isaacson: Do you
do that even in winter?

01:23:14.308 --> 01:23:14.818
Shea Stewart: Yeah.

01:23:14.818 --> 01:23:15.638
Rupert Isaacson: When the
sun is rising very early?

01:23:16.228 --> 01:23:18.288
Sorry, even in summer when
the sun is rising very early?

01:23:18.978 --> 01:23:19.388
Shea Stewart: Yep.

01:23:22.878 --> 01:23:23.898
Rupert Isaacson: Do you
then go back to bed?

01:23:24.788 --> 01:23:25.188
Nope.

01:23:25.698 --> 01:23:26.008
Okay.

01:23:26.388 --> 01:23:28.778
So that means you have to make
sure that you got to sleep.

01:23:29.128 --> 01:23:31.318
Because if you go to, in mid
summer, if you go to sleep at

01:23:31.328 --> 01:23:34.093
sunset, That could be where I live.

01:23:34.093 --> 01:23:36.963
That's 10 o'clock at night
and you got up with the dawn.

01:23:37.853 --> 01:23:38.843
That's 4am.

01:23:39.613 --> 01:23:43.153
Shea Stewart: Yeah, it's that's the
thing when you live the further away

01:23:43.153 --> 01:23:47.503
you get from the equator, the more
unstable your light environment is.

01:23:47.833 --> 01:23:49.973
So you do have to mitigate those things.

01:23:50.843 --> 01:23:56.323
I'm a little closer to the equator,
so it's a little more stable, but

01:23:59.213 --> 01:24:06.913
I do try to at least be out when UVA
is rising and UVA is all year round,

01:24:06.923 --> 01:24:11.693
no matter where you are on the planet,
the, the light that you don't get in

01:24:11.693 --> 01:24:13.643
the more northern latitudes is UVB.

01:24:15.203 --> 01:24:16.013
Rupert Isaacson: What is UVB?

01:24:16.968 --> 01:24:23.348
Shea Stewart: UVB is the light
that basically when it, it touches

01:24:23.348 --> 01:24:29.398
our skin, it tells the cholesterol
in our skin to make vitamin D.

01:24:29.873 --> 01:24:31.813
It's not really a vitamin, it's a hormone.

01:24:32.313 --> 01:24:38.783
But UVB is what makes D, and it's also
what builds the microbiome in our gut.

01:24:41.733 --> 01:24:43.703
Rupert Isaacson: So if we
live in the more northerly

01:24:43.703 --> 01:24:46.033
latitudes, what do we do to Well,

01:24:46.433 --> 01:24:52.013
Shea Stewart: you don't, you don't
need, if you're, if you're an uncoupled

01:24:52.083 --> 01:24:55.023
haplotype, you don't really need.

01:24:55.163 --> 01:24:55.793
Rupert Isaacson: If you're a what?

01:24:59.093 --> 01:25:00.493
Shea Stewart: A haplotype.

01:25:01.123 --> 01:25:02.203
So you're either.

01:25:03.223 --> 01:25:06.844
Everybody's either a coupled
haplotype or an uncoupled haplotype.

01:25:06.844 --> 01:25:07.365
That's

01:25:07.365 --> 01:25:08.928
Rupert Isaacson: a very personal

01:25:08.928 --> 01:25:10.490
Shea Stewart: thing to say.

01:25:10.490 --> 01:25:11.532
I know.

01:25:11.532 --> 01:25:18.263
Uncoupled haplotypes are basically people
who come from more northern latitudes.

01:25:19.003 --> 01:25:19.613
Rupert Isaacson: What does that mean?

01:25:19.613 --> 01:25:20.113
Shea Stewart: Coupled.

01:25:20.403 --> 01:25:20.663
Rupert Isaacson: Yeah.

01:25:20.743 --> 01:25:25.433
Shea Stewart: It's just how your mind
It's how to your mitochondria make energy.

01:25:25.753 --> 01:25:26.193
Rupert Isaacson: Okay.

01:25:26.703 --> 01:25:32.923
Shea Stewart: So a coupled haplotype would
be someone from an equatorial country.

01:25:33.333 --> 01:25:39.613
They've got more melanin in their skin
and their mitochondria needs more UV

01:25:39.633 --> 01:25:43.183
light to make energy than ours does.

01:25:43.873 --> 01:25:44.203
Rupert Isaacson: Okay.

01:25:44.963 --> 01:25:46.883
Shea Stewart: Like look at
some of the strongest people

01:25:46.883 --> 01:25:49.243
on the planet are Sherpas.

01:25:50.938 --> 01:25:56.488
They're, they're not too far from the
equator and they live in high elevations.

01:25:56.698 --> 01:26:02.198
So they're getting a lot of
UV and a lot of magnetism.

01:26:02.208 --> 01:26:04.708
So they're really, they're
very strong people.

01:26:05.378 --> 01:26:09.418
And when you're uncoupled, that just
means you're from a more northern

01:26:09.418 --> 01:26:14.248
latitude, uncoupled haplotypes.

01:26:15.223 --> 01:26:16.963
use UV and cold.

01:26:18.243 --> 01:26:24.713
So in the wintertime, your vitamin D that
you make in the summertime, if you're

01:26:24.713 --> 01:26:31.663
getting sun on your skin without sun on
bare skin with no lotions or anything and

01:26:31.663 --> 01:26:36.893
you're building your vitamin D, it, it,
it stores in your body for the winter.

01:26:38.003 --> 01:26:42.413
So you get up to a certain amount and
then you store it, but you also can

01:26:42.413 --> 01:26:47.213
make, they're, they're finding that
there, there's some new studies that

01:26:47.253 --> 01:26:52.903
they're finding that cold exposure helps
your body with the vitamin D as well.

01:26:53.043 --> 01:26:57.813
It, it, I don't know if it
helps your body make it or if it

01:26:57.913 --> 01:27:00.083
helps your body store it better.

01:27:00.553 --> 01:27:07.563
But in the winter time, we don't really,
if you're, if you're from a more northern

01:27:07.563 --> 01:27:13.223
latitude, you don't need to mitigate UVB.

01:27:13.263 --> 01:27:15.883
Although some people do get those lights.

01:27:15.883 --> 01:27:20.293
You can get a spurty lamp or an EMR tech.

01:27:20.323 --> 01:27:25.493
They have those are lights that people
get that have the different spectrums in

01:27:25.503 --> 01:27:29.393
them and, and some people do use those.

01:27:30.503 --> 01:27:35.603
in the winter but you don't really
have to because you want to think what,

01:27:35.943 --> 01:27:41.623
what is natural for your mitochondria,
what's natural for where you're from.

01:27:42.038 --> 01:27:47.888
And where you currently live, and that
would be maybe getting more sleep in

01:27:47.888 --> 01:27:51.078
the winter and doing more cold exposure.

01:27:52.278 --> 01:27:52.918
Rupert Isaacson: Right.

01:27:53.298 --> 01:27:55.098
I'm just reading here.

01:27:55.158 --> 01:27:58.138
Good health and immune function
can be at risk in winter.

01:27:58.148 --> 01:28:02.618
However, the cold exposure that
coincides with the nadir, the lowest

01:28:02.618 --> 01:28:04.208
point in seasonal blood serum.

01:28:04.733 --> 01:28:10.313
Vitamin D might compensate by
stimulating mitochondrial production

01:28:10.313 --> 01:28:16.303
of ultraviolet light inside the cell,
thus activating vitamin D production

01:28:16.323 --> 01:28:18.303
inside brown fat and other cells.

01:28:18.653 --> 01:28:21.873
This is what cold exposure can do.

01:28:22.713 --> 01:28:23.273
Interesting.

01:28:23.773 --> 01:28:24.173
Yeah,

01:28:24.213 --> 01:28:27.893
Shea Stewart: well, cold exposure
tells your mitochondria to

01:28:27.903 --> 01:28:30.273
produce UV light, which is heat.

01:28:31.748 --> 01:28:33.858
Rupert Isaacson: I see to warm up.

01:28:33.928 --> 01:28:34.308
Right.

01:28:34.308 --> 01:28:34.648
Got it.

01:28:35.128 --> 01:28:35.538
Shea Stewart: Yeah.

01:28:35.798 --> 01:28:37.198
Rupert Isaacson: Also
fills you with endorphins.

01:28:39.818 --> 01:28:42.228
Shea Stewart: It can
release some endorphins.

01:28:42.228 --> 01:28:42.678
Yeah.

01:28:42.758 --> 01:28:45.548
And you have to be careful
with cold exposure.

01:28:45.578 --> 01:28:52.308
I mean, I don't agree with the
whole Huberman lab 47 degrees

01:28:52.318 --> 01:28:56.238
or 11 minutes a week, because

01:28:58.508 --> 01:29:02.118
everybody's different, everybody's.

01:29:03.888 --> 01:29:05.528
N equals one is different.

01:29:06.358 --> 01:29:11.608
So for some people that would put
you in a complete cortisol stress.

01:29:14.303 --> 01:29:17.803
Technically, anything that's
below our body temperature

01:29:17.873 --> 01:29:20.023
is considered cold exposure.

01:29:21.273 --> 01:29:25.963
So you could, if it's 60 degrees,
you could take a walk outside for an

01:29:25.963 --> 01:29:28.993
hour and that would be cold exposure.

01:29:30.773 --> 01:29:33.293
Rupert Isaacson: Not if you're
wearing an Arctic fleece, right?

01:29:33.323 --> 01:29:37.083
I mean, how would you get that
cold, what would you wear at 60

01:29:37.083 --> 01:29:38.593
degrees to get cold exposure?

01:29:39.713 --> 01:29:45.003
Shea Stewart: I would probably, I
mean, I take walks when it's 35,

01:29:45.003 --> 01:29:49.978
40 and I'll wear a pair of shorts
And a sweatshirt and tennis shoes.

01:29:51.208 --> 01:29:52.418
Rupert Isaacson: And how
long will that walk be?

01:29:52.438 --> 01:29:55.988
By the way, 3540 she
means, um, Fahrenheit.

01:29:56.578 --> 01:29:57.648
Shea Stewart: Fahrenheit, yeah.

01:29:58.078 --> 01:30:00.758
Rupert Isaacson: Jolly chilly
if you're a Celsius person.

01:30:01.088 --> 01:30:04.318
That's, that's just about
like two or three degrees.

01:30:04.978 --> 01:30:05.348
Yeah.

01:30:05.658 --> 01:30:06.388
Celsius, yeah.

01:30:06.908 --> 01:30:08.868
Shea Stewart: But I'm cold adapted, so.

01:30:09.938 --> 01:30:15.418
And I would need at least 40 minutes of
that to get a, a true cold thermogenic.

01:30:15.528 --> 01:30:17.198
Rupert Isaacson: a howling
wind with horizontal sleet?

01:30:18.543 --> 01:30:22.563
Shea Stewart: No, I'm not that crazy.

01:30:23.233 --> 01:30:27.083
Rupert Isaacson: Well, because again, you,
I mean, just so listeners understand, I'm

01:30:27.323 --> 01:30:29.243
talking to you from winter in Germany.

01:30:29.493 --> 01:30:33.303
You're talking from winter in Texas,
which is a Mediterranean winter.

01:30:33.303 --> 01:30:36.693
It's not that you can't get very cold
in Texas, but it blows in and it blows

01:30:36.693 --> 01:30:37.823
out and it doesn't last very long.

01:30:38.403 --> 01:30:40.073
The cold here, it's different.

01:30:40.073 --> 01:30:45.073
So we're in the sort of North Atlantic
weather systems, mid continental.

01:30:45.253 --> 01:30:45.953
So it can get.

01:30:46.533 --> 01:30:47.153
Damn cold.

01:30:47.233 --> 01:30:51.823
And it's cold, nasty, like, you
know, howling wind rain that'll

01:30:51.853 --> 01:30:53.123
cut through you like a knife.

01:30:53.473 --> 01:30:57.373
Should I go out in my t
shirt and shorts in that?

01:30:58.178 --> 01:30:59.498
Shea Stewart: No, I wouldn't.

01:30:59.888 --> 01:31:01.158
You don't, you don't know how I'm going

01:31:01.158 --> 01:31:02.228
Rupert Isaacson: to get my cold exposure.

01:31:03.028 --> 01:31:05.168
I am outside in that all day.

01:31:05.478 --> 01:31:09.498
Shea Stewart: I mean, yeah,
you're going out and you're cold

01:31:11.088 --> 01:31:13.968
and, and it's, and that's okay.

01:31:14.068 --> 01:31:15.868
I mean, that's, it's okay to be cold.

01:31:15.868 --> 01:31:16.678
That's what I'm saying.

01:31:16.898 --> 01:31:18.028
It's good for your mitochondria.

01:31:19.108 --> 01:31:23.438
You can go out in that and bundle up,
but you're still getting cold, right?

01:31:23.718 --> 01:31:24.148
Rupert Isaacson: Exactly.

01:31:24.148 --> 01:31:29.748
Well, of course, even like today I was
on horseback and the wind was Doing his

01:31:29.758 --> 01:31:35.538
thing and you know, just the front of your
face is getting a proper scrape, you know,

01:31:35.958 --> 01:31:41.038
it's you know, the, the, the ice thing is
just going all across, you know, and that,

01:31:41.158 --> 01:31:43.948
Shea Stewart: yeah, that's the best
place to get cold is your face.

01:31:43.998 --> 01:31:44.618
Is that right?

01:31:44.738 --> 01:31:44.958
Okay.

01:31:44.958 --> 01:31:46.278
Why is

01:31:46.278 --> 01:31:46.938
Rupert Isaacson: that?

01:31:47.618 --> 01:31:49.648
Shea Stewart: It's, it's has to do.

01:31:50.428 --> 01:31:51.938
I don't remember exactly.

01:31:51.948 --> 01:31:57.428
It has to do with what's being stimulated
with the cold on your forehead.

01:31:58.268 --> 01:32:00.218
Rupert Isaacson: Prefrontal
cortex chilling or something

01:32:01.198 --> 01:32:03.478
that brain brain freeze.

01:32:03.478 --> 01:32:05.858
I

01:32:06.238 --> 01:32:11.078
Shea Stewart: think because that
triggers some receptors that help

01:32:11.078 --> 01:32:13.498
your mitochondria produce the light.

01:32:15.478 --> 01:32:19.903
So some people who can't do cold
exposure, they do face dunks and ice.

01:32:20.723 --> 01:32:21.753
Rupert Isaacson: Oh, interesting.

01:32:21.993 --> 01:32:23.623
So I've just looked it up, of course.

01:32:23.623 --> 01:32:24.833
Cold water therapy, skin health.

01:32:25.243 --> 01:32:26.963
Promotes collagen production, apparently.

01:32:26.963 --> 01:32:28.583
Counteracting stress factors.

01:32:29.583 --> 01:32:32.353
So, actually, it's good for
your wrinkles and your skin

01:32:32.353 --> 01:32:33.923
firmness, cold water immersion.

01:32:34.203 --> 01:32:36.033
But also, lymphatic drainage.

01:32:36.783 --> 01:32:40.873
So, I guess that's what, taking,
getting rid of inflammation.

01:32:41.303 --> 01:32:42.543
So, okay.

01:32:44.088 --> 01:32:48.728
Shea Stewart: Yeah, it also it it
helps your bulk water structure.

01:32:49.398 --> 01:32:49.948
Rupert Isaacson: I see.

01:32:51.148 --> 01:32:52.528
Shea Stewart: That's
another thing that cold,

01:32:54.128 --> 01:32:56.118
Rupert Isaacson: but here's so here's
the question So you don't agree with

01:32:56.128 --> 01:32:59.358
the human huberman labs stuff of these?

01:32:59.938 --> 01:33:01.088
Are you talking about ice baths there?

01:33:01.178 --> 01:33:02.908
You talking about like stuff?

01:33:03.298 --> 01:33:12.688
So some people we know people who are
great ice bath evangelists and but they

01:33:12.688 --> 01:33:17.158
would put their hand on their heart
and say Rupert, I feel so much better,

01:33:17.168 --> 01:33:20.358
and I'm so much healthier, and I'm
so much stronger with my ice baths.

01:33:20.808 --> 01:33:23.898
And then I know other people who'll
hold up a crucifix and say get away

01:33:23.898 --> 01:33:25.668
from me with your satanic ice bath.

01:33:26.068 --> 01:33:26.748
Who's right?

01:33:27.958 --> 01:33:29.438
Shea Stewart: Well, that's
that's what I'm saying.

01:33:29.438 --> 01:33:30.138
Is everybody

01:33:30.138 --> 01:33:30.578
Rupert Isaacson: right?

01:33:30.708 --> 01:33:32.578
Because it depends on your metabolism.

01:33:32.938 --> 01:33:35.108
Shea Stewart: Yeah, everybody's
n equals one is different.

01:33:35.138 --> 01:33:38.188
Everybody's mitochondrial
health is in a different place.

01:33:38.418 --> 01:33:38.768
Rupert Isaacson: Okay.

01:33:38.768 --> 01:33:41.648
Shea Stewart: And you can't

01:33:42.398 --> 01:33:44.558
Rupert Isaacson: How do you know if
an ice bath is good for you or not?

01:33:44.748 --> 01:33:46.628
You just have to try and
see what your reaction is.

01:33:47.528 --> 01:33:48.058
Shea Stewart: Yeah.

01:33:48.128 --> 01:33:50.778
If, if it's too stressful, don't do it.

01:33:50.908 --> 01:33:51.408
Rupert Isaacson: Okay.

01:33:51.738 --> 01:33:57.098
So now what if your ice bath coach
is like, no, no, you can do it.

01:33:58.018 --> 01:33:59.788
Should you do it?

01:33:59.788 --> 01:33:59.948
I

01:34:00.188 --> 01:34:01.928
Shea Stewart: would get a
different ice bath coach.

01:34:02.058 --> 01:34:02.598
Rupert Isaacson: Okay.

01:34:02.758 --> 01:34:06.968
Shea Stewart: Because I don't
think, I mean, I'm looking

01:34:06.968 --> 01:34:08.698
at mitochondrial function.

01:34:09.958 --> 01:34:14.428
If there's somebody who's encouraging
you and you really want to do it.

01:34:16.448 --> 01:34:16.968
Yeah.

01:34:17.018 --> 01:34:20.388
But is, is dipping down and
getting up within one minute.

01:34:22.003 --> 01:34:22.953
beneficial.

01:34:23.213 --> 01:34:28.013
I don't think it's, it's probably
beneficial to your willpower.

01:34:28.593 --> 01:34:33.253
You know what, what you, what you learn
that you can handle, which is huge.

01:34:33.643 --> 01:34:37.273
Our, our emotional our
emotions are huge around that.

01:34:37.733 --> 01:34:40.933
And that has a lot that can
have a big effect on our

01:34:40.943 --> 01:34:42.943
health and our cellular health.

01:34:45.348 --> 01:34:51.708
But if you want to do cold thermogenesis
that improves mitochondrial function,

01:34:54.058 --> 01:34:57.588
you have to have a longer exposure.

01:34:58.933 --> 01:35:04.463
But the temperature depends
on your n equals one.

01:35:04.463 --> 01:35:06.513
It depends on your mitochondrial health.

01:35:06.813 --> 01:35:13.873
If you're, if you have autoimmune
disease and you've got some other

01:35:13.883 --> 01:35:18.673
health problems because of that,
I wouldn't go jump in an ice bath.

01:35:19.173 --> 01:35:24.523
I would start really slow because what
you don't want is your cortisol to spike.

01:35:24.993 --> 01:35:26.473
Our, our cortisol is.

01:35:27.078 --> 01:35:29.048
Spikes in the morning to get us up.

01:35:29.398 --> 01:35:33.908
That's why going outside and getting
the sun is good because it helps

01:35:34.268 --> 01:35:39.868
tamper with the cortisol and it, it
helps your body go, okay, we're up.

01:35:39.938 --> 01:35:42.208
Now other things need to take over.

01:35:43.198 --> 01:35:45.988
But if your cortisol is always
spiked, then you're going

01:35:45.988 --> 01:35:47.548
to get chronic inflammation.

01:35:47.958 --> 01:35:49.618
And if you're, if you're forcing yourself,

01:35:49.848 --> 01:35:51.508
Rupert Isaacson: cortisol
brings down inflammation.

01:35:51.508 --> 01:35:52.598
It's one of its jobs, right?

01:35:52.608 --> 01:35:54.148
Is to bring down inflammation.

01:35:54.708 --> 01:35:55.428
Shea Stewart: Yeah, but it.

01:35:55.743 --> 01:35:59.533
It's it's, it's, it's not
supposed to be there all the time.

01:36:00.683 --> 01:36:01.363
Rupert Isaacson: Too much medicine.

01:36:02.063 --> 01:36:02.353
Shea Stewart: Yeah.

01:36:02.443 --> 01:36:03.123
Too much.

01:36:04.453 --> 01:36:04.823
Yeah.

01:36:04.833 --> 01:36:10.843
So if you're doing, if you're doing
ice baths and it's, it's, it's too much

01:36:10.853 --> 01:36:16.018
cortisol, then you need to raise the
temperature or do it a different way.

01:36:17.418 --> 01:36:23.018
Rupert Isaacson: One of the things which
I find difficult about an ice bath is

01:36:23.018 --> 01:36:24.788
that you go in there and you don't move.

01:36:25.338 --> 01:36:32.198
And for me, when I get that kind
of shock to the system, my body

01:36:32.238 --> 01:36:34.068
automatically wants to move.

01:36:34.478 --> 01:36:38.868
So, for example, if I were to go into
the cold ocean or a cold river, I

01:36:38.868 --> 01:36:43.468
would be able to splash, move, go,
jump around, you know, sort of thing.

01:36:43.848 --> 01:36:46.458
Which brings my cortisol down, of course.

01:36:46.698 --> 01:36:46.948
Yeah.

01:36:46.998 --> 01:36:56.938
There's something to me, which is cortisol
y, stress y about feeling confined in that

01:36:59.118 --> 01:37:00.448
cold exposure suffering state.

01:37:00.448 --> 01:37:03.248
But yet I know other people who love it.

01:37:03.838 --> 01:37:04.568
Shea Stewart: Oh yeah.

01:37:04.738 --> 01:37:05.048
Rupert Isaacson: Yeah.

01:37:05.048 --> 01:37:06.678
There seems to be a
real temperament thing.

01:37:07.268 --> 01:37:07.708
Shea Stewart: Yeah.

01:37:08.178 --> 01:37:10.088
And, and you get addicted to it.

01:37:10.108 --> 01:37:11.918
We get addicted to the cold.

01:37:12.478 --> 01:37:16.378
And once you start using the
sun more, you get addicted.

01:37:16.398 --> 01:37:20.078
We're, we're meant to
become addicted to the sun.

01:37:20.468 --> 01:37:25.048
And we tend, we also get addicted
to the cold and addicted.

01:37:25.158 --> 01:37:25.968
I don't mean that in a.

01:37:26.428 --> 01:37:27.128
Bad way.

01:37:27.138 --> 01:37:32.128
It's just our body seeks that because
it's healthy for us, but yeah, the

01:37:32.128 --> 01:37:38.398
cold, I don't like, I've actually hurt
my back worse doing ice baths and, and

01:37:38.528 --> 01:37:44.258
I've, I've learned that it was because
it was too cold and I was in a confined

01:37:44.258 --> 01:37:46.668
state, so I was just sitting there.

01:37:47.158 --> 01:37:48.498
You know, like frozen.

01:37:50.568 --> 01:37:52.428
So, sometimes in the winter,

01:37:54.748 --> 01:37:58.548
I'll get in my pool
where I can move around.

01:37:59.498 --> 01:38:00.868
Rupert Isaacson: How long
will you do that for?

01:38:02.238 --> 01:38:05.788
Shea Stewart: It depends on how cold
it is, but usually around 20 minutes.

01:38:08.108 --> 01:38:14.188
Rupert Isaacson: So, I guess, back
to, I'm a therapeutic or equine

01:38:14.188 --> 01:38:15.988
assisted person, it's winter.

01:38:17.668 --> 01:38:20.938
Do I need to make sure I've got some time
where I pull the rugs off the horses?

01:38:21.528 --> 01:38:28.648
And let their body temperatures drop,
let them get full vitamin D exposure

01:38:28.648 --> 01:38:32.828
to the sun before I put the blankets
back on for the rest of the day.

01:38:33.088 --> 01:38:34.198
You know, it's interesting.

01:38:35.048 --> 01:38:37.418
I grew up doing a lot
of hunting, fox hunting.

01:38:38.008 --> 01:38:38.538
Whatever.

01:38:39.248 --> 01:38:40.618
Please don't kill me.

01:38:40.988 --> 01:38:41.738
I gave it up.

01:38:42.068 --> 01:38:46.358
But I still go out now with the
artificial type of hounds, where we don't

01:38:46.358 --> 01:38:48.638
actually hassle a live animal anymore.

01:38:48.948 --> 01:38:50.308
But of course, that's done in the winter.

01:38:51.218 --> 01:38:57.198
And often on horses that are clipped,
because being super athletic while

01:38:57.198 --> 01:39:01.973
they're out there, you don't want them
overheating and You know, the sweat

01:39:02.103 --> 01:39:05.063
falling up and give it, you know,
chafing them and blah, blah, blah.

01:39:05.343 --> 01:39:08.683
So they're partially shaved
or fully shaved on the body.

01:39:09.133 --> 01:39:16.163
And they're out three to six hours
like that working in the winter.

01:39:16.893 --> 01:39:20.203
in all weathers and they love it and
they seem to do it till they're about

01:39:20.213 --> 01:39:22.703
30 years old and come back in happy.

01:39:22.703 --> 01:39:25.293
And then of course you rug them up at
night particularly if they're clipped,

01:39:25.483 --> 01:39:26.843
obviously they don't have the winter coat.

01:39:27.293 --> 01:39:30.303
My horses now, the ones I'm,
I'm not hunting them because I'm

01:39:30.303 --> 01:39:33.953
not in an area where I do that,
I let them have a winter coat.

01:39:34.443 --> 01:39:37.703
But I don't want too much winter
coat because again, I'm doing

01:39:37.703 --> 01:39:38.923
quite a lot of athletic work.

01:39:38.923 --> 01:39:42.123
I don't want them sweating too
much in the winter and they live

01:39:42.123 --> 01:39:43.693
outside anyway, so I do rug them.

01:39:44.733 --> 01:39:47.823
But as much as possible, I
do try to pull the rugs off.

01:39:47.823 --> 01:39:51.693
Now, I was pulling the rugs off as much
as possible in the daytime, just to let

01:39:51.693 --> 01:39:56.623
them roll, get muddy, get, you know, the
itches out, just because they like it.

01:39:57.013 --> 01:40:03.818
But you are now saying that Or
suggesting or are you, that there could

01:40:03.818 --> 01:40:09.858
be a more mitochondrial based liquid
intelligence based structure of the

01:40:09.858 --> 01:40:14.598
intelligent water in the body based
need for that exposure, particularly

01:40:14.598 --> 01:40:19.278
in, in, in, in the short Sundays of
winter to just make sure that they get

01:40:19.278 --> 01:40:22.058
it on their skin for their optimal Yes.

01:40:22.538 --> 01:40:23.528
Mitochondrial health.

01:40:24.038 --> 01:40:24.488
Okay.

01:40:24.488 --> 01:40:24.548
Yeah.

01:40:24.788 --> 01:40:25.193
That's interesting.

01:40:25.193 --> 01:40:26.033
Shea Stewart: Pull the, pull the.

01:40:26.703 --> 01:40:32.793
Rugs off in the winter and give
them, give them, think of it as light

01:40:32.793 --> 01:40:35.013
therapy, give them light therapy.

01:40:35.053 --> 01:40:40.333
I mean, look at what's become so
popular right now is red light therapy,

01:40:41.953 --> 01:40:44.183
but red light comes from the sun.

01:40:44.193 --> 01:40:45.703
You can just go out in the sun.

01:40:46.363 --> 01:40:48.483
And if you're, if you're afraid of the UV.

01:40:50.903 --> 01:40:55.303
If you just go out in the morning and
in the evening is pure red and infrared.

01:40:55.303 --> 01:41:02.703
There is no UV UV UV comes out, you
know, once the sun starts rising

01:41:02.703 --> 01:41:10.203
and the only UV that is has actually
been shown to be damaging is UVB

01:41:11.113 --> 01:41:15.413
and, but the studies that they did
on that, they did it in isolation.

01:41:15.443 --> 01:41:16.743
They isolated the UVB.

01:41:17.603 --> 01:41:18.793
They didn't mix it with, okay.

01:41:19.693 --> 01:41:22.263
Red and infrared from the sun.

01:41:22.323 --> 01:41:23.193
But anyway,

01:41:25.773 --> 01:41:30.683
red light getting out in the sun is
the same as doing red light therapy.

01:41:31.013 --> 01:41:31.523
Rupert Isaacson: Okay.

01:41:33.023 --> 01:41:34.628
Shea Stewart: And actually
old story, get outta that

01:41:34.628 --> 01:41:34.828
Rupert Isaacson: arena.

01:41:35.888 --> 01:41:36.108
Shea Stewart: Yep.

01:41:36.223 --> 01:41:37.873
Get out as much as you can.

01:41:38.363 --> 01:41:40.013
My, I have a dog that's.

01:41:41.533 --> 01:41:43.823
Well, gosh, she's probably 19

01:41:43.823 --> 01:41:44.783
Rupert Isaacson: now,

01:41:44.963 --> 01:41:52.223
Shea Stewart: and she has good
eyesight, good hearing, and she

01:41:52.223 --> 01:41:56.713
started to get really itchy,
like scratching all the time.

01:41:57.313 --> 01:42:06.908
And this was about the time that I started
my whole Quantum shift with my lifestyle

01:42:07.568 --> 01:42:13.828
and I was going outside every morning and
my, my dog would come with me and we'd

01:42:13.828 --> 01:42:17.448
go out and I'd have my coffee outside
and she would come out and sit with me.

01:42:17.468 --> 01:42:20.098
She falls, she's with me everywhere.

01:42:20.838 --> 01:42:27.533
And after about a week, she
completely stopped scratching now.

01:42:30.393 --> 01:42:30.873
Rupert Isaacson: Go ahead.

01:42:30.873 --> 01:42:31.863
Sorry, then I've got a thought.

01:42:32.623 --> 01:42:38.393
Shea Stewart: So that was that I
firmly believe it was the the healing

01:42:40.583 --> 01:42:41.853
light from the Sun

01:42:43.163 --> 01:42:43.653
Rupert Isaacson: Okay.

01:42:43.673 --> 01:42:51.203
Now you did earlier on about an
hour ago You mentioned in summer not

01:42:51.203 --> 01:42:56.043
using a flysheet or a fly mask I've
got a couple of horses which if I do

01:42:56.043 --> 01:43:04.393
that the flies will eat them alive
literally tear their flesh and can't

01:43:04.413 --> 01:43:11.143
not put a fly sheet on those horses
and then the same for the fly mask.

01:43:11.143 --> 01:43:15.883
They'll just suffer so
terribly, like really suffer.

01:43:16.383 --> 01:43:17.913
Other horses seem to sell through it.

01:43:18.423 --> 01:43:21.013
What do I do in that situation?

01:43:21.433 --> 01:43:22.093
And

01:43:22.833 --> 01:43:23.003
Shea Stewart: the

01:43:23.003 --> 01:43:25.313
Rupert Isaacson: other question
is, can you get the same

01:43:25.323 --> 01:43:26.853
beneficial effects from moonlight?

01:43:29.308 --> 01:43:30.748
Shea Stewart: No, no, if

01:43:30.748 --> 01:43:33.878
Rupert Isaacson: I pull the rug off at
night in the summer, for example, no,

01:43:33.938 --> 01:43:35.878
it has to be not getting reflected.

01:43:36.138 --> 01:43:39.338
Nice UV light for their mitochondria.

01:43:39.888 --> 01:43:41.368
So how do I help that horse out?

01:43:41.368 --> 01:43:45.398
Because everyone's like this.

01:43:46.048 --> 01:43:49.028
Shea Stewart: Yeah, my
horse had an eye problem.

01:43:49.098 --> 01:43:51.368
So I fly masked my horse.

01:43:52.178 --> 01:43:57.728
I was I actually have a friend who
was talking to somebody who makes

01:43:57.728 --> 01:44:04.078
fly masks, and they were, were going
to test them to see if they could

01:44:04.088 --> 01:44:08.578
make some that, that don't filter
out the UV because that's some of

01:44:08.578 --> 01:44:10.678
the beneficial light that they need.

01:44:12.223 --> 01:44:18.513
You could do like leave it off in the
morning before the flies get bad, just put

01:44:18.513 --> 01:44:20.953
it on later, you know, give them breaks.

01:44:20.953 --> 01:44:25.493
That's what I tell people if you can,
you know, I know people are busy and but

01:44:25.493 --> 01:44:31.233
if you can give them breaks, give them a
couple hours of that morning sun and that

01:44:31.253 --> 01:44:34.613
evening sun when the flies are not so bad.

01:44:36.693 --> 01:44:37.913
Rupert Isaacson: Yeah, yeah.

01:44:38.533 --> 01:44:41.573
I'm thinking about, you know, horses
that I have to put on far pastures.

01:44:42.548 --> 01:44:45.078
and might have to ignore
for a few days, you know.

01:44:45.688 --> 01:44:49.008
And they're happy, they're
roaming about there, but I'm

01:44:49.008 --> 01:44:50.228
gonna leave, I'm gonna leave that.

01:44:50.583 --> 01:44:53.383
Fly sheet on and that fly mask

01:44:53.383 --> 01:44:55.333
Shea Stewart: chunks

01:44:55.333 --> 01:44:57.273
Rupert Isaacson: of the missing,
you know, from the flies.

01:44:57.933 --> 01:44:58.413
Shea Stewart: Yeah.

01:44:58.453 --> 01:45:04.463
I mean, you have to, yeah, you have
to use your, the things I wonder

01:45:04.483 --> 01:45:07.633
is what is it about that horse?

01:45:07.643 --> 01:45:09.823
That's attract attracting flies.

01:45:11.193 --> 01:45:16.723
It's in one of my classes, they
were talking about how people

01:45:16.733 --> 01:45:19.723
who have gotten bitten by sharks.

01:45:20.353 --> 01:45:25.143
Or even people who get bitten
by mosquitoes are actually

01:45:25.223 --> 01:45:28.213
leaking too much biophotons.

01:45:28.888 --> 01:45:33.728
So the, the, the bio photons
that we produce the light that we

01:45:33.728 --> 01:45:37.938
produce, we hold on to that light.

01:45:38.088 --> 01:45:41.678
And that's that creates
energy in our system.

01:45:41.688 --> 01:45:45.448
But when we're sick or compromised that.

01:45:45.748 --> 01:45:51.788
We're not able to hold on to that light,
so it starts to fly off of us and they

01:45:51.788 --> 01:45:54.578
can actually see that in certain imaging.

01:45:54.598 --> 01:46:00.878
There's actually a whole science behind
there's a group of biofield scientists

01:46:00.918 --> 01:46:08.288
who are measuring our biofields and so
I wonder about horses because I had one

01:46:08.288 --> 01:46:14.778
that, you know, my herd of five, one of
them got completely taken eaten alive by

01:46:14.818 --> 01:46:18.718
bugs, but the other one's not so much.

01:46:19.718 --> 01:46:25.348
And, and he, he was a horse that
he came from the primrose farm.

01:46:25.358 --> 01:46:30.558
So he probably, you
know, didn't have a good.

01:46:31.478 --> 01:46:36.578
Development in utero, I would think that
like his whole system was just weaker.

01:46:38.028 --> 01:46:43.928
So, I wonder about horses that how some
horses or or even even things like E.

01:46:43.928 --> 01:46:44.218
P.

01:46:44.218 --> 01:46:44.568
M.

01:46:44.568 --> 01:46:48.908
that protozoa that that can
cause a neurological problems.

01:46:48.908 --> 01:46:55.318
You can have a herd of 20 horses in
a field and only 1 of them will get

01:46:57.478 --> 01:46:58.668
affected by that.

01:46:59.798 --> 01:47:02.448
So, when I see that.

01:47:02.983 --> 01:47:07.133
It's like, yeah, you want to keep them
comfortable and you want them to not get

01:47:07.443 --> 01:47:09.913
eaten up because it's miserable for them.

01:47:10.323 --> 01:47:16.433
And then what do you, how do you, how do
you give them the light that they need to,

01:47:16.723 --> 01:47:19.863
to optimize their mitochondrial function?

01:47:20.493 --> 01:47:22.208
And, and why are they?

01:47:22.708 --> 01:47:26.918
Getting, why are, are those things
getting attracted to them more?

01:47:28.208 --> 01:47:29.158
And so

01:47:32.238 --> 01:47:34.368
Rupert Isaacson: it's a really,
it's a really interesting question.

01:47:34.368 --> 01:47:37.998
We've asked ourselves this, this
particular two horses in question.

01:47:37.998 --> 01:47:41.218
The Lusitano's one was bred in Portugal.

01:47:41.688 --> 01:47:43.378
One was bred in North Carolina.

01:47:43.628 --> 01:47:44.938
I kept them in Texas.

01:47:45.998 --> 01:47:47.788
They had no problem.

01:47:48.998 --> 01:47:54.018
And it's buggy in Texas, as you know,
you live in Texas in the summertime.

01:47:54.773 --> 01:47:57.863
I moved here to Germany,
which is a cooler climate.

01:47:58.013 --> 01:48:01.533
I mean, it gets hot in the summer, but
nothing like as hot, and not for as long.

01:48:02.623 --> 01:48:04.573
High bug activity, different types of bug.

01:48:06.883 --> 01:48:12.623
Brought seven horses, two
suffered, two did not.

01:48:12.853 --> 01:48:16.693
But the suffering only showed
up after about four years.

01:48:18.418 --> 01:48:25.998
They were grand and then they sort of
weren't and obviously like all horse

01:48:25.998 --> 01:48:30.538
owners I've tried this and I've tried
that but I find that the, the main

01:48:30.578 --> 01:48:34.388
thing is just to make sure that, you
know, I keep them covered enough.

01:48:35.843 --> 01:48:39.543
Shea Stewart: Yeah, and that, that
timing would make sense if it's some kind

01:48:39.543 --> 01:48:45.493
of mitochondrial dysfunction, because
I think I mentioned earlier it, they

01:48:46.613 --> 01:48:50.763
are dysfunctional, they can function.

01:48:52.323 --> 01:48:57.768
I can never, I can never say the
sentence correctly, mitochondria.

01:48:59.568 --> 01:49:01.418
Not show any signs.

01:49:01.428 --> 01:49:05.818
The body will not show any signs of
dysfunction until the mitochondria

01:49:05.838 --> 01:49:10.048
is operating at a 70 percent deficit.

01:49:12.568 --> 01:49:17.618
It's like the electric transport chain
that keeps them keeps that energy

01:49:17.618 --> 01:49:20.878
production gets doesn't function right.

01:49:20.878 --> 01:49:26.408
And when that slows down,
cellular function declines.

01:49:26.418 --> 01:49:29.168
So over and it takes time.

01:49:29.318 --> 01:49:32.078
So it could be.

01:49:32.768 --> 01:49:34.438
Something about their environment.

01:49:36.688 --> 01:49:38.068
Rupert Isaacson: Yes, absolutely.

01:49:38.218 --> 01:49:40.578
One of the things I need to look, I'm
going to be looking at is selenium.

01:49:41.338 --> 01:49:44.178
As you know, that's a whole
tricky area with horses.

01:49:44.728 --> 01:49:44.998
Because,

01:49:44.998 --> 01:49:45.748
Shea Stewart: you

01:49:45.748 --> 01:49:47.448
Rupert Isaacson: know, too much
for too little, blah, blah, blah.

01:49:47.698 --> 01:49:51.678
But I think there might be some
deficiency there in our area.

01:49:52.148 --> 01:49:53.038
But it's interesting.

01:49:53.048 --> 01:49:57.353
I'm just going to dive down the rabbit
hole now of, of When summer comes around

01:49:57.353 --> 01:50:01.233
again of looking at how, well, how can
I boost their mitochondrial health?

01:50:01.273 --> 01:50:04.603
And I just going to be very
interested to see, you know,

01:50:05.453 --> 01:50:05.953
Shea Stewart: Yeah, because

01:50:05.953 --> 01:50:07.573
Rupert Isaacson: they

01:50:07.853 --> 01:50:11.953
Shea Stewart: make vitamin D as
well, but it's a little different.

01:50:11.983 --> 01:50:18.483
It, it, it comes on onto their fur
and in their skin, and then they

01:50:19.013 --> 01:50:21.763
release a serum and then they lick it.

01:50:22.273 --> 01:50:24.343
You know, they lick,
they groom each other.

01:50:24.603 --> 01:50:27.493
One of the things they're doing
is they're getting vitamin D.

01:50:28.058 --> 01:50:28.628
Rupert Isaacson: Is that so?

01:50:29.418 --> 01:50:32.628
Shea Stewart: Yeah, and dogs
will, and cats will lick, get

01:50:32.638 --> 01:50:34.528
the vitamin D that they produced.

01:50:35.298 --> 01:50:35.728
Rupert Isaacson: I see.

01:50:35.768 --> 01:50:35.788
So

01:50:35.788 --> 01:50:40.498
Shea Stewart: that's another reason
why they need that direct sunlight.

01:50:41.728 --> 01:50:43.058
Rupert Isaacson: And the
chance to groom each other.

01:50:43.848 --> 01:50:46.128
Shea Stewart: Yeah, yep.

01:50:46.548 --> 01:50:48.778
Rupert Isaacson: Even when they pull
each other's manes out, really annoying.

01:50:49.803 --> 01:50:50.163
Shea Stewart: Yeah.

01:50:50.163 --> 01:50:53.073
It's

01:50:53.073 --> 01:50:55.393
Rupert Isaacson: like, guys,
why do you have to do that?

01:50:56.013 --> 01:50:56.323
Shea Stewart: Yeah.

01:50:56.513 --> 01:51:01.573
Mutual, mutual grooming is, that's
one thing that is not very well

01:51:01.573 --> 01:51:04.953
known is that's one source of, that's
one way they get their vitamin D.

01:51:05.193 --> 01:51:05.833
Rupert Isaacson: Is that so?

01:51:05.843 --> 01:51:06.163
Okay.

01:51:06.223 --> 01:51:11.603
And what's really interesting, both those
horses really go for the mutual grooming.

01:51:12.503 --> 01:51:12.953
Shea Stewart: Yeah.

01:51:13.003 --> 01:51:13.883
And I always encourage it,

01:51:13.903 --> 01:51:14.923
Rupert Isaacson: I never discourage it.

01:51:15.908 --> 01:51:19.898
Shea Stewart: Yeah, yeah, they're
probably lacking and that's the thing

01:51:19.898 --> 01:51:27.318
is the quantum quantum health is studied
in the human world It's not part of

01:51:27.318 --> 01:51:34.368
centralized mainstream medicine like
if you go your primary care physician

01:51:35.058 --> 01:51:40.563
and You complain about being electro
sensitive because you're suffering

01:51:40.573 --> 01:51:42.343
from a mitochondrial dysfunction.

01:51:42.973 --> 01:51:44.923
I don't think they'll
know what to do with that.

01:51:45.053 --> 01:51:46.333
Rupert Isaacson: No, it's
so interesting, isn't it?

01:51:46.903 --> 01:51:52.333
Yeah, there's a big disconnect between,
say, the Mitochondrial Institute at

01:51:52.333 --> 01:51:55.683
University of California, which is huge,
which is one of the first things to

01:51:55.683 --> 01:52:04.043
get behind us, and an average internal
medicine doctor who you would think would

01:52:04.043 --> 01:52:08.513
be exposed to all that Knowledge and not
not at all like not neuroscience either.

01:52:09.393 --> 01:52:09.603
Yeah,

01:52:09.673 --> 01:52:14.353
Shea Stewart: it's not like they get
like even eye doctors and I follow

01:52:14.393 --> 01:52:17.043
a woman who's a quantum eye doctor.

01:52:17.523 --> 01:52:22.513
And it's, it's not like doctors get
a text message every time there's a

01:52:22.513 --> 01:52:28.583
new study that comes out, it has to
be, and they're all overworked anyway.

01:52:28.703 --> 01:52:31.693
Rupert Isaacson: They have to be nerds
that want to nerd out on that stuff.

01:52:32.063 --> 01:52:36.293
Shea Stewart: Yeah, or, or yeah, they
have to really, and the same with

01:52:36.393 --> 01:52:39.323
our animals, there's really not much.

01:52:39.798 --> 01:52:43.788
There, I think there's a woman in the
UK, I can't remember her name right now,

01:52:43.828 --> 01:52:50.448
but she's, she's starting to incorporate
more quantum health and large animals.

01:52:50.508 --> 01:52:50.978
And well,

01:52:50.988 --> 01:52:52.938
Rupert Isaacson: that was my next
question is where are the quantum vets?

01:52:52.938 --> 01:52:54.628
And I'm going to hop
on Google in a minute.

01:52:55.078 --> 01:53:00.498
I also Googled while you were
talking about bio photo photon loss.

01:53:00.858 --> 01:53:01.118
Yeah.

01:53:01.118 --> 01:53:03.528
I was like losing the
light when you're sick.

01:53:03.538 --> 01:53:04.388
It's like, is that a thing?

01:53:04.428 --> 01:53:07.878
And I looked it up just
now It's totally a thing.

01:53:08.058 --> 01:53:13.933
I found Just a bazillion articles from
various medical journals and again, jobs,

01:53:13.933 --> 01:53:20.023
Johns Hopkins popped up and it just buh,
So these things are being well studied.

01:53:20.033 --> 01:53:22.103
These are not just fringe issues.

01:53:22.753 --> 01:53:25.923
However, let's talk about something
which sounds like a fringe issue.

01:53:25.933 --> 01:53:27.453
We're approaching the two hour mark.

01:53:27.493 --> 01:53:28.873
There's going to be more.

01:53:28.873 --> 01:53:31.713
I'm going to want to ask, but I think
we will have to come back again.

01:53:31.723 --> 01:53:35.063
It's because our brains
will be a bit blown.

01:53:35.283 --> 01:53:37.113
You mentioned earlier.

01:53:37.353 --> 01:53:45.793
Something about trying to ground maybe
using a grounding sheet to help mitigate

01:53:46.273 --> 01:53:49.913
some of the negative effects of being
bombarded by too much of these other

01:53:49.923 --> 01:53:54.233
electromagnetic fields, but that some of
them can malfunction and actually make you

01:53:55.153 --> 01:54:00.533
charge something called dirty electricity,
dirty electricity when it's at home,

01:54:01.133 --> 01:54:02.553
Shea Stewart: Dirty electricity.

01:54:02.913 --> 01:54:06.403
Now, even a building biologist
will say it's a building

01:54:06.403 --> 01:54:07.283
Rupert Isaacson: biologist.

01:54:07.353 --> 01:54:08.753
Shea Stewart: Yeah,

01:54:08.933 --> 01:54:10.993
Rupert Isaacson: but a biologist
who comes in and sort of assesses

01:54:10.993 --> 01:54:14.873
your building, your, your, your home
environment or your office environment.

01:54:15.523 --> 01:54:18.763
Shea Stewart: Yes, they assess
it for the different frequencies.

01:54:19.453 --> 01:54:19.763
Rupert Isaacson: Interesting.

01:54:19.783 --> 01:54:20.173
Okay.

01:54:21.303 --> 01:54:24.133
Shea Stewart: One of the things they
can test for is dirty electricity

01:54:24.493 --> 01:54:24.673
Rupert Isaacson: or

01:54:25.393 --> 01:54:28.393
Shea Stewart: electricity
is, is it's complicated.

01:54:28.753 --> 01:54:34.563
But it's basically if there's faulty,
a faulty wire if your wires are not

01:54:34.563 --> 01:54:39.983
coded with I can't remember what it
is, anything that's got a dual motor.

01:54:40.533 --> 01:54:46.363
Like an air conditioning or a pool
pump or refrigerator, these, these

01:54:46.363 --> 01:54:52.283
things can, can emit dirty electricity
and you can actually get a filter.

01:54:53.593 --> 01:54:58.413
They say not to get the plug in
filters for your plugs, because that

01:54:58.413 --> 01:55:03.263
could scatter the dirty electricity
more that you want to get a whole

01:55:03.273 --> 01:55:06.393
house filter for your breaker box.

01:55:06.723 --> 01:55:07.913
They are expensive.

01:55:08.508 --> 01:55:15.688
But then, even then, you have to make
sure you're not getting dirty electricity

01:55:15.688 --> 01:55:18.028
from the power grid coming to your house.

01:55:19.328 --> 01:55:21.088
Rupert Isaacson: So you make sure of that

01:55:22.708 --> 01:55:24.818
Shea Stewart: get it tested
by a building biologist.

01:55:24.828 --> 01:55:26.028
They can test that.

01:55:27.088 --> 01:55:31.778
And all I did, I Googled building
biologists near me and I found somebody

01:55:31.788 --> 01:55:33.628
and she came out and tested everything.

01:55:34.628 --> 01:55:35.528
And so

01:55:35.968 --> 01:55:38.018
Rupert Isaacson: Geiger counters or what?

01:55:39.098 --> 01:55:39.398
Shea Stewart: Yeah.

01:55:39.398 --> 01:55:46.182
These little different meters that
measure like radio frequencies and

01:55:46.182 --> 01:55:50.261
microwaves and radiation from wifi.

01:55:53.871 --> 01:55:54.291
It's called

01:55:55.341 --> 01:55:55.791
Rupert Isaacson: go ahead.

01:55:55.791 --> 01:55:56.201
Sorry.

01:55:57.341 --> 01:55:57.841
Shea Stewart: So

01:56:00.961 --> 01:56:07.451
when we ground on the earth,
we're gathering electrons.

01:56:09.321 --> 01:56:12.731
You can also ground by touching trees.

01:56:13.246 --> 01:56:18.656
And I'm testing the grounding by touching
horses, even if you have shoes on,

01:56:20.776 --> 01:56:23.576
I'm doing my own little
case study on that.

01:56:24.036 --> 01:56:31.996
And I have found that sometimes I
can ground, or sometimes I'm grounded

01:56:32.016 --> 01:56:35.436
just by touching them, even if I
have shoes on, and sometimes I'm not.

01:56:36.386 --> 01:56:40.296
And that could be my, how,
how well hydrated I am.

01:56:41.126 --> 01:56:48.581
But so basically that gives us electrons
and our mitochondria need Like electrons

01:56:49.311 --> 01:56:52.341
and are if we don't have enough electrons.

01:56:52.956 --> 01:56:58.176
Our our body tries to find
him wherever we can get them.

01:56:58.776 --> 01:57:02.106
It's like a mother holding her sick baby.

01:57:02.116 --> 01:57:05.116
She's giving her baby electrons.

01:57:05.156 --> 01:57:11.356
By doing that we can steal electrons
from other people if we're not

01:57:13.426 --> 01:57:17.026
functioning optimally, or we
can get our electrons stolen.

01:57:17.586 --> 01:57:17.976
And

01:57:19.116 --> 01:57:19.336
Rupert Isaacson: sounds

01:57:19.336 --> 01:57:19.406
Shea Stewart: like

01:57:19.556 --> 01:57:20.076
Rupert Isaacson: vampires.

01:57:21.131 --> 01:57:21.621
Shea Stewart: Yeah.

01:57:21.971 --> 01:57:24.071
I mean, it's like, have you
ever been around somebody and

01:57:24.071 --> 01:57:25.931
then was exhausted afterwards?

01:57:26.091 --> 01:57:27.681
Rupert Isaacson: How are
they stealing my electrons?

01:57:28.411 --> 01:57:31.541
Shea Stewart: They're, they're
mitochondria sense that.

01:57:31.961 --> 01:57:34.251
And we have what's called a biofield.

01:57:35.051 --> 01:57:36.951
And that's a real thing too.

01:57:37.041 --> 01:57:39.621
And it's, it's about
three feet off our body.

01:57:39.651 --> 01:57:39.911
Right.

01:57:39.911 --> 01:57:41.049
This is well studied.

01:57:41.049 --> 01:57:41.776
Yeah.

01:57:42.156 --> 01:57:45.546
Yeah, and that can grab, you

01:57:45.546 --> 01:57:48.026
Rupert Isaacson: know, just would that,
would that be somebody who's not producing

01:57:48.026 --> 01:57:51.056
enough electrons and they're like just
trying to get it from wherever they can.

01:57:51.316 --> 01:57:55.166
Shea Stewart: Yeah, people who never
get electrons, which a lot of it,

01:57:55.736 --> 01:57:57.656
a lot of us are electron deficient.

01:57:57.726 --> 01:58:00.886
If we're living an indoor

01:58:02.016 --> 01:58:05.136
Rupert Isaacson: vampires, people
who live electron deficient lives.

01:58:05.856 --> 01:58:08.766
Shea Stewart: Yeah, don't even realize it.

01:58:10.636 --> 01:58:11.216
Rupert Isaacson: Interesting.

01:58:11.496 --> 01:58:15.186
If you're less likely to be an energy
vampire, if they live their life outside.

01:58:16.296 --> 01:58:16.706
Shea Stewart: Yep.

01:58:17.696 --> 01:58:18.196
Rupert Isaacson: Interesting.

01:58:18.306 --> 01:58:19.906
So energy bound prism is a thing.

01:58:20.446 --> 01:58:20.786
Shea Stewart: Yep.

01:58:20.866 --> 01:58:26.606
And if you're if your circadian
rhythm is off, you're not

01:58:26.616 --> 01:58:28.146
getting the electrons you need.

01:58:28.146 --> 01:58:31.651
So you're going to be Constantly
trying to steal them for everywhere,

01:58:32.371 --> 01:58:35.771
but going outside and grounding
is a great way to get them.

01:58:36.461 --> 01:58:40.891
And then, so now there's these grounding
devices that we can use, like grounding

01:58:40.891 --> 01:58:47.971
sheets that you mentioned earlier, but if
you're plugging the sheet into the wall.

01:58:49.806 --> 01:58:54.246
Because they'll, they'll plug into the
ground of your, of your electricity,

01:58:54.606 --> 01:58:58.906
if you plug it into the wall and you
have dirty electricity, that dirty

01:58:58.906 --> 01:59:02.136
electricity is looking for a place
to ground and it's going to ground

01:59:02.646 --> 01:59:05.986
right on you on the grounding sheet.

01:59:07.986 --> 01:59:13.346
So, if you, if you have a grounding
sheet, don't plug it into the wall,

01:59:13.766 --> 01:59:17.956
get one of those little stakes you
can plug into the earth outside.

01:59:18.311 --> 01:59:23.851
And a little cord you can run through your
window and, and make sure you don't have

01:59:23.851 --> 01:59:29.131
any cables buried around where you put the
stake, because the same thing can happen.

01:59:29.641 --> 01:59:35.321
So, the best place would be
by a tree, if you have that.

01:59:35.871 --> 01:59:38.441
Rupert Isaacson: Okay, I'm just
checking again for listeners, the woo

01:59:38.611 --> 01:59:40.971
woo factor, is dirty electricity real?

01:59:40.971 --> 01:59:41.741
Turns out it is.

01:59:41.761 --> 01:59:45.001
I'm looking at an article in Nature, which
is obviously one of the big scientific

01:59:45.001 --> 01:59:49.591
journals, says the term dirty electricity
refers to the electromagnetic energy

01:59:49.891 --> 01:59:55.581
flowing along a conductor that deviates
from a pure 50 to 60 hertz sine wave.

01:59:56.311 --> 01:59:59.191
The, what we think of as that woo
woo wave that goes like that, not

01:59:59.201 --> 02:00:03.771
woo woo, but I made that noise to
denote that my, my finger making this

02:00:03.771 --> 02:00:07.641
nice harmonious wave, and has both
harmonic and transient properties.

02:00:07.991 --> 02:00:14.391
Okay, so basically, power
surges erratic spikes in energy,

02:00:14.481 --> 02:00:15.601
stuff that isn't working.

02:00:15.916 --> 02:00:19.136
Properly, as you said, perhaps
sometimes with microwaves and things

02:00:19.516 --> 02:00:20.826
although I do use microwaves a lot.

02:00:20.936 --> 02:00:22.376
Hey, that's very convenient.

02:00:22.976 --> 02:00:23.496
I

02:00:23.496 --> 02:00:23.736
Shea Stewart: do too.

02:00:23.916 --> 02:00:27.076
I use a microwave and I
just don't stand by it.

02:00:27.356 --> 02:00:27.676
Right.

02:00:28.136 --> 02:00:31.056
We tend to stand in front and
watch the seconds count down.

02:00:31.566 --> 02:00:32.286
Rupert Isaacson: That's true.

02:00:33.466 --> 02:00:33.726
So

02:00:33.726 --> 02:00:37.256
Shea Stewart: I, I purposefully
like move away and go do something

02:00:37.256 --> 02:00:41.096
else because being standing in front
of them, you're just getting that.

02:00:42.496 --> 02:00:43.126
Rupert Isaacson: Getting cooked.

02:00:43.806 --> 02:00:44.156
Shea Stewart: Yeah.

02:00:44.156 --> 02:00:47.706
Rupert Isaacson: You know, my way
of grounding, what I do, of course,

02:00:47.706 --> 02:00:51.686
is I spend as much time outside as
I can with my feet on the ground.

02:00:51.696 --> 02:00:55.496
Or sometimes if the weather is conducive,
my whole body, I will starfish.

02:00:56.276 --> 02:00:59.276
On any given piece of grass I can find.

02:00:59.866 --> 02:01:02.636
And I'll do it in winter
on a ground sheet.

02:01:03.476 --> 02:01:09.496
And I'll do it, I do that with the kids
that come to us from some of the schools

02:01:09.496 --> 02:01:13.506
that send, you know, because it's like,
you know, they're getting no chance.

02:01:13.556 --> 02:01:16.726
And the other thing which I'll do a lot
is take my shoes off, even in winter.

02:01:17.226 --> 02:01:18.976
And I'll say, let's get Get muddy.

02:01:19.846 --> 02:01:20.416
It's okay.

02:01:20.456 --> 02:01:24.806
We won't die because we're also going
to dry our feet off soon and put nice

02:01:24.856 --> 02:01:30.556
woolly socks on again Why don't we
and it's it's so interesting how this

02:01:30.556 --> 02:01:36.216
seems to bring instant joy But I I'm
understanding it now from a mitochondrial

02:01:36.866 --> 02:01:42.276
light Intelligent liquid point of view
now, which is very interesting so of

02:01:42.276 --> 02:01:47.346
course, you know one of the in horse by
method that one of the best things we can

02:01:47.396 --> 02:01:52.111
ever do is camps and You know, where we
see the biggest changes happen in kids

02:01:52.111 --> 02:01:57.771
and families is when we go away, we camp,
we take the horses, we camp, it's like

02:01:58.441 --> 02:02:03.381
the journey we did in Mongolia, but not
as difficult, but it's quite basic, and

02:02:03.861 --> 02:02:07.731
people are sleeping on the ground and
walking around on the ground and being

02:02:07.731 --> 02:02:13.536
outside in nature all day and we tend
to see The charm is, is if it's a three

02:02:13.536 --> 02:02:18.976
night camp, that third night, the waking
up after that third night seems to bring

02:02:18.976 --> 02:02:21.936
a massive metabolic and brain change.

02:02:22.576 --> 02:02:26.006
This has been beginning to
give me insights into why.

02:02:26.706 --> 02:02:28.006
So again.

02:02:29.136 --> 02:02:33.456
If I'm an equine assisted
practitioner, what am I learning here?

02:02:33.456 --> 02:02:37.456
I'm learning that if I pay attention
to mitochondria, I might find

02:02:37.496 --> 02:02:39.076
good solutions for my horses.

02:02:39.476 --> 02:02:41.726
I might find good
solutions for my clients.

02:02:42.006 --> 02:02:44.246
I might find good solutions for myself.

02:02:44.616 --> 02:02:49.386
And the further I go into this,
what, what makes good mitochondria?

02:02:50.176 --> 02:02:51.766
Well, it seems nature does.

02:02:52.136 --> 02:02:56.966
Light, natural light, you know,
back, back to getting a bit

02:02:56.966 --> 02:02:59.136
cold sometimes, being outside.

02:02:59.606 --> 02:03:02.036
Back to what Temple Grandin told
me, you know, go outside, go

02:03:02.036 --> 02:03:03.566
outside, go outside, let them move.

02:03:04.086 --> 02:03:09.406
Isn't it interesting how we can
break down all of these things that

02:03:09.406 --> 02:03:14.286
really just tell us, lads, your
environment is out there on the planet.

02:03:15.226 --> 02:03:16.766
In here, in front of this screen.

02:03:17.076 --> 02:03:19.276
Don't know how many times I've got
to tell you, but you're an organism.

02:03:19.316 --> 02:03:20.246
You need a habitat.

02:03:20.506 --> 02:03:21.166
It ain't here.

02:03:21.506 --> 02:03:22.346
It's not in this tank.

02:03:22.376 --> 02:03:23.076
It's out there.

02:03:23.506 --> 02:03:25.216
And, feeling a bit shit?

02:03:25.466 --> 02:03:26.516
It's because you're a zoo animal.

02:03:26.986 --> 02:03:27.566
Get out there.

02:03:27.846 --> 02:03:28.636
Into your habitat.

02:03:28.996 --> 02:03:32.406
But, if we're raised in the zoo
habitats, we don't know this, do we?

02:03:33.016 --> 02:03:33.946
Shea Stewart: No, we don't.

02:03:33.976 --> 02:03:35.416
And we're not taught this.

02:03:35.446 --> 02:03:41.496
And we, we are meant to be
grounded 24 hours a day.

02:03:42.186 --> 02:03:42.596
Rupert Isaacson: Right.

02:03:43.626 --> 02:03:45.496
Shea Stewart: And how
often are we getting that?

02:03:45.746 --> 02:03:48.796
Rupert Isaacson: You know, the best
I've ever felt is on long journeys in

02:03:48.806 --> 02:03:51.816
nature, camping, living with Bushmen.

02:03:52.951 --> 02:03:53.691
us on the ground.

02:03:54.401 --> 02:04:01.091
Shea Stewart: Yeah, I used to go on wild
camping trips and I looking back, I always

02:04:01.091 --> 02:04:09.481
remember it was really hard to integrate,
integrate back into the society.

02:04:11.191 --> 02:04:11.421
Yeah.

02:04:11.471 --> 02:04:11.951
Yeah.

02:04:12.431 --> 02:04:15.441
And you know, the other thing
that grounding does, I didn't

02:04:15.441 --> 02:04:18.151
mention is our, our blood cells.

02:04:18.816 --> 02:04:24.626
Our blood cells travel, you know, through
our body in a vortex shape, and the cells

02:04:24.636 --> 02:04:29.646
actually have that negative charge, so
that means they push against each other.

02:04:30.676 --> 02:04:34.796
And if we don't get grounding,
we don't get that charge.

02:04:35.791 --> 02:04:40.241
The blood cells start to clump
together and they call, they

02:04:40.241 --> 02:04:41.671
actually call it stacking.

02:04:42.131 --> 02:04:47.001
So the cells start to stack and they've
done, there's been some studies on

02:04:47.001 --> 02:04:52.101
this where they took someone, you know,
they drew blood, looked at it through

02:04:52.101 --> 02:04:54.921
a microscope, took him out to ground.

02:04:55.421 --> 02:05:01.921
And the one study that I recently read,
she was out there 10 minutes, bare feet.

02:05:01.941 --> 02:05:03.111
It was on a beach.

02:05:03.121 --> 02:05:04.111
So you're going to get.

02:05:04.626 --> 02:05:10.636
More when you're at the ocean, it
came back and her, they drew blood,

02:05:10.676 --> 02:05:15.136
looked at her blood cells and all,
and they had that nice charge.

02:05:15.136 --> 02:05:16.596
They were completely different.

02:05:19.716 --> 02:05:20.076
Rupert Isaacson: Yeah.

02:05:21.266 --> 02:05:26.686
As always, the answers to the complicated
questions seem to be quite simple.

02:05:27.796 --> 02:05:28.186
Shea Stewart: Yes.

02:05:31.011 --> 02:05:32.571
Nature does not lie.

02:05:32.911 --> 02:05:35.581
Rupert Isaacson: Isn't it interesting
how we'd also rather go to a store

02:05:36.291 --> 02:05:40.561
and spend money on a product than just
go outside and take our shoes off?

02:05:40.561 --> 02:05:43.221
It's

02:05:43.301 --> 02:05:44.631
Shea Stewart: I know, that's the thing.

02:05:45.091 --> 02:05:50.711
We've got all these products
now when we can just go outside.

02:05:50.901 --> 02:05:53.781
We've got the red light,
well we can just go outside.

02:05:54.261 --> 02:05:58.391
We've got the grounding stuff,
or we can just go outside.

02:06:00.446 --> 02:06:06.166
And I think that's why kids do so well
with horses, especially if they're

02:06:06.936 --> 02:06:10.846
living an indoor lifestyle, because
they're getting, they're getting the

02:06:10.846 --> 02:06:17.186
grounding, they're touching the animal,
they're getting the electrons, they're

02:06:17.186 --> 02:06:20.126
getting the different rays of sunlight.

02:06:23.946 --> 02:06:27.936
So there's, and there's
science behind all of this.

02:06:29.561 --> 02:06:34.041
And I encourage people to read it
like if you're worried about eye

02:06:34.041 --> 02:06:39.361
diseases or skin cancers, read,
read the studies that are out there.

02:06:40.341 --> 02:06:45.751
It's, it's, it's not it's, it's the
indoor life that's causing these problems.

02:06:45.751 --> 02:06:47.371
It's the artificial light.

02:06:47.831 --> 02:06:55.106
We've been part of nature, you know,
as long as How long have humans been

02:06:56.586 --> 02:06:59.366
around and a lot of these diseases,

02:06:59.366 --> 02:07:02.486
Rupert Isaacson: if you, if it's
hominids that are not sapiens

02:07:02.486 --> 02:07:04.566
sapiens, it goes into the millions.

02:07:04.566 --> 02:07:04.786
Yeah.

02:07:05.386 --> 02:07:05.756
Shea Stewart: Yeah.

02:07:05.776 --> 02:07:06.366
Millions.

02:07:06.426 --> 02:07:06.696
Yeah.

02:07:06.696 --> 02:07:08.166
Cause it's, it's

02:07:08.266 --> 02:07:11.946
Rupert Isaacson: our species is, they
think 300, 000, but we're just the

02:07:11.946 --> 02:07:14.386
bottom end of a long chain of other ones.

02:07:14.436 --> 02:07:14.666
Yeah.

02:07:14.726 --> 02:07:15.336
Shea Stewart: Mammals.

02:07:15.336 --> 02:07:16.836
How long have we been mammals?

02:07:16.876 --> 02:07:17.786
I should say, cause

02:07:18.271 --> 02:07:21.061
Rupert Isaacson: Since, I think,
the Jurassic, the first mammals

02:07:21.061 --> 02:07:22.791
appear, as far as I know.

02:07:23.571 --> 02:07:25.271
Shea Stewart: Actually, didn't we Or is

02:07:25.341 --> 02:07:26.461
Rupert Isaacson: it even Triassic?

02:07:30.176 --> 02:07:36.426
Shea Stewart: So, as long as there's
been mammals, we've had mitochondria,

02:07:37.986 --> 02:07:41.996
and, and our mitochondria is designed to

02:07:41.996 --> 02:07:45.756
Rupert Isaacson: 225 million
years, and it is the late Triassic,

02:07:46.556 --> 02:07:48.236
even before the Jurassic, wow.

02:07:49.226 --> 02:07:50.126
Shea Stewart: Yeah, I've actually,

02:07:52.226 --> 02:07:57.416
I've, I've seen graphs
of health decline that

02:07:59.486 --> 02:08:02.216
matched lighting environment

02:08:04.476 --> 02:08:11.596
matched the increase in wifi and all
that, like my phone, I don't have

02:08:11.606 --> 02:08:16.996
the wifi on on my phone and I have,
I turned some little thing off so it

02:08:16.996 --> 02:08:20.736
won't, it won't attach to 5g towers.

02:08:21.441 --> 02:08:25.411
And I don't use Bluetooth because
that's the other thing that's even

02:08:26.461 --> 02:08:28.001
like the worst of all of them.

02:08:28.041 --> 02:08:30.811
Like those, yeah, those blue tooth.

02:08:31.186 --> 02:08:33.646
earbuds, don't use them.

02:08:34.176 --> 02:08:34.546
Rupert Isaacson: Okay.

02:08:34.626 --> 02:08:35.126
Why not

02:08:35.456 --> 02:08:36.656
Shea Stewart: get the tube ones?

02:08:36.696 --> 02:08:40.866
Because Bluetooth is another
electromagnetic field.

02:08:40.866 --> 02:08:45.556
And there's been studies on that where
it's, it's degrading the melanin in

02:08:45.556 --> 02:08:53.406
your ear and things like tinnitus and
all kinds of stuff they're finding

02:08:53.976 --> 02:08:58.146
linked to those Bluetooth earbuds.

02:08:59.416 --> 02:09:02.566
Rupert Isaacson: What if you've got
Bluetooth in your, you're listening to

02:09:02.576 --> 02:09:07.031
you're mucking out your You're dancing
or you're mucking out your, your stools

02:09:07.031 --> 02:09:08.891
to a Bluetooth speaker off your phone?

02:09:11.501 --> 02:09:12.661
Shea Stewart: I would hardwire it.

02:09:15.891 --> 02:09:19.591
I know I'm taking all the fun away,
especially if you like tech gadgets.

02:09:19.951 --> 02:09:21.051
Rupert Isaacson: How
would you hardwire it?

02:09:21.071 --> 02:09:24.021
You'd, you'd, you'd plug
a speaker into the phone?

02:09:25.111 --> 02:09:27.051
Shea Stewart: Yeah, you
can do like an auxiliary.

02:09:27.301 --> 02:09:27.791
Rupert Isaacson: Mm hmm.

02:09:28.031 --> 02:09:30.021
Shea Stewart: I've got an
auxiliary cord and that's what

02:09:30.021 --> 02:09:31.971
I plug my phone into my car.

02:09:32.691 --> 02:09:33.101
Rupert Isaacson: Okay.

02:09:33.581 --> 02:09:34.881
Shea Stewart: So I don't use Bluetooth.

02:09:35.201 --> 02:09:38.591
And, and that made a big difference
in how I felt because I drive a lot.

02:09:38.611 --> 02:09:40.031
Rupert Isaacson: And

02:09:40.311 --> 02:09:44.701
Shea Stewart: I always crack a window
to let the light come in because

02:09:44.701 --> 02:09:51.036
that's the other thing we didn't
talk about is, is windows in a, in

02:09:51.036 --> 02:09:56.421
a, because they're energy efficient,
they're blocking out all the red light.

02:09:58.291 --> 02:10:00.621
But if you just crack it a little bit.

02:10:01.051 --> 02:10:07.131
It's like, imagine the light is,
is an ocean outside, and you crack

02:10:07.131 --> 02:10:10.261
a little bit, that water's going
to come in and fill the room.

02:10:10.611 --> 02:10:13.081
That's what the outdoor light will do.

02:10:14.981 --> 02:10:18.321
Rupert Isaacson: Okay, so you
need ventilation not just for

02:10:19.051 --> 02:10:20.691
oxygen, you need it for light.

02:10:22.146 --> 02:10:26.756
Shea Stewart: Yeah, and there are,
there's a company, I think it's

02:10:26.756 --> 02:10:32.186
called Tech Wellness, they, they
sell those ear, ear pods that are

02:10:32.286 --> 02:10:35.086
attached with a tube to your phone.

02:10:35.116 --> 02:10:37.636
So you're not using the Bluetooth.

02:10:38.756 --> 02:10:39.136
Rupert Isaacson: Okay,

02:10:41.296 --> 02:10:41.916
good to know.

02:10:42.676 --> 02:10:45.266
Shea Stewart: Yeah, anything,
anything, any smart device.

02:10:45.816 --> 02:10:49.596
I've gone back to Ethernet
and hardwiring things.

02:10:54.056 --> 02:10:56.336
Rupert Isaacson: Yeah, it's
tricky because, you know,

02:10:56.336 --> 02:10:57.306
we all live on our phones.

02:10:57.306 --> 02:10:58.606
We have to live on our phones.

02:10:58.606 --> 02:11:01.436
We, we, you know, I'm checking
for the next appointment.

02:11:01.536 --> 02:11:06.306
We know when I'm out there, it's
handy that I can be connected.

02:11:06.306 --> 02:11:09.386
So I can do my emails and make
a business call from the saddle.

02:11:09.776 --> 02:11:12.596
You know, it's good outside, but

02:11:13.146 --> 02:11:15.356
Shea Stewart: just don't
keep your phone on your body.

02:11:16.021 --> 02:11:16.401
Rupert Isaacson: Okay.

02:11:16.401 --> 02:11:17.761
Shea Stewart: I

02:11:18.521 --> 02:11:20.241
Rupert Isaacson: mean, where
can I, where can I keep it if

02:11:20.241 --> 02:11:22.121
I'm, if it's not on my body?

02:11:23.131 --> 02:11:26.341
Shea Stewart: That, well, you know,
what you can do is put it in airplane

02:11:26.341 --> 02:11:33.291
mode when you're not using it and that
at least will prevent you from being,

02:11:33.981 --> 02:11:36.041
getting that radiation from the phone.

02:11:36.591 --> 02:11:39.701
Rupert Isaacson: So for example, if you,
you're a parent, you've got young kids,

02:11:39.701 --> 02:11:42.101
you've got to be on call, you can't.

02:11:43.321 --> 02:11:46.351
You don't have the luxury
of switching off anymore.

02:11:46.981 --> 02:11:48.951
You, you know, if someone gives
you a call about your kids,

02:11:48.951 --> 02:11:49.951
you've got to be there to take it.

02:11:49.981 --> 02:11:51.071
Work calls, blah, blah, blah.

02:11:51.301 --> 02:11:53.541
That phone has got to be there.

02:11:53.781 --> 02:11:54.631
You're moving around.

02:11:54.671 --> 02:11:56.941
Where, where, where, where,
where can you have it?

02:11:57.831 --> 02:12:02.141
Shea Stewart: You can, you can buy
these pockets that you can put your

02:12:02.141 --> 02:12:04.691
phone in that are, that shield.

02:12:06.261 --> 02:12:09.731
And I think Tech Wellness has
them, but they're, they're

02:12:09.731 --> 02:12:12.591
electromagnetic field shielders.

02:12:12.631 --> 02:12:16.381
Like, if you Google, if you
Google that, those will come up.

02:12:16.431 --> 02:12:17.191
Like Faraday.

02:12:17.241 --> 02:12:18.161
If you put

02:12:18.161 --> 02:12:19.871
Rupert Isaacson: tinfoil in
your pocket, would that help?

02:12:20.351 --> 02:12:21.301
Shea Stewart: I don't, I don't know.

02:12:21.301 --> 02:12:22.261
You could try it.

02:12:22.741 --> 02:12:26.571
Those, they're called, they make
something called a Faraday bag.

02:12:26.871 --> 02:12:27.501
Rupert Isaacson: You can actually

02:12:27.601 --> 02:12:31.171
Shea Stewart: get a You know, net put
over your bed, but I wouldn't do that

02:12:31.191 --> 02:12:34.991
because that's going to block out the
natural earth's natural rhythms as well.

02:12:35.001 --> 02:12:42.581
But you can, you can buy little phone
holders that, that do protect you.

02:12:43.341 --> 02:12:47.521
Cause even in the phone pamphlet, it
says not to hold them up to your ear.

02:12:47.931 --> 02:12:48.331
Rupert Isaacson: Yeah.

02:12:48.531 --> 02:12:53.191
Shea Stewart: That can cause, you know,
brain cancers and you're not supposed

02:12:53.191 --> 02:12:54.831
to put them anywhere on your body.

02:12:55.111 --> 02:12:55.441
Rupert Isaacson: Yeah.

02:12:56.981 --> 02:12:59.441
But it's very, very hard not to put
them in a pocket when you're riding,

02:12:59.441 --> 02:13:00.671
when you're working, when you're.

02:13:01.976 --> 02:13:05.746
So even if it's in a pocket, let's say
it's in a jacket pocket, separated by

02:13:05.766 --> 02:13:07.596
three layers of material from your body.

02:13:07.596 --> 02:13:09.286
I

02:13:09.646 --> 02:13:14.486
Shea Stewart: would probably still either
put some block in there, put one of those

02:13:14.486 --> 02:13:17.336
fabrics, silver, I think, blocks it.

02:13:17.916 --> 02:13:22.106
Or buy something to put it
in that blocks all that.

02:13:22.346 --> 02:13:22.716
Rupert Isaacson: Okay.

02:13:23.086 --> 02:13:23.916
Shea Stewart: Cause you don't want it.

02:13:23.946 --> 02:13:30.706
You don't want that exposure on yourself
and transferring to your horse and

02:13:30.706 --> 02:13:32.576
everybody rides with their cell phone.

02:13:32.576 --> 02:13:37.126
I used to ride with mine and my riding
pants had a special little cell phone.

02:13:37.556 --> 02:13:37.926
Rupert Isaacson: Yeah,

02:13:38.926 --> 02:13:42.966
Shea Stewart: but when my body started
falling apart, that's when I got

02:13:42.966 --> 02:13:45.246
serious about making these changes.

02:13:47.571 --> 02:13:49.831
And my brain, my body and my brain.

02:13:50.261 --> 02:13:53.741
I, I got, I was afraid
I was getting dementia.

02:13:54.381 --> 02:13:55.551
It was so bad.

02:13:56.001 --> 02:13:57.661
I still get little bouts of it.

02:13:58.121 --> 02:14:00.761
But a lot of things have changed.

02:14:00.951 --> 02:14:02.841
Even my hair has grown back.

02:14:03.301 --> 02:14:05.421
Rupert Isaacson: Have you, do you
feel that you're, that there's been

02:14:05.421 --> 02:14:06.781
a big change in you in say the last?

02:14:08.416 --> 02:14:09.286
24 months.

02:14:09.726 --> 02:14:10.186
Shea Stewart: Yeah.

02:14:11.206 --> 02:14:14.036
Rupert Isaacson: It's interesting
that you say that, Shay, because

02:14:14.126 --> 02:14:18.706
I'm used to you speaking very
articulately but very slowly.

02:14:19.526 --> 02:14:23.626
And I always just thought, oh, that's
because she's just very deep and

02:14:23.626 --> 02:14:27.426
has a lot to say and you know, there
is, there is obviously that is true.

02:14:28.086 --> 02:14:30.886
But it's, this is the first
conversation that I've had with you

02:14:30.976 --> 02:14:34.736
that has been at a more natural pace.

02:14:35.156 --> 02:14:35.906
It's interesting.

02:14:36.476 --> 02:14:37.246
Shea Stewart: Interesting.

02:14:37.276 --> 02:14:37.446
Yeah,

02:14:37.446 --> 02:14:40.826
Rupert Isaacson: you're, you're,
you're faster than you were on our last

02:14:42.306 --> 02:14:44.696
interaction, two interactions, I think.

02:14:45.286 --> 02:14:45.796
Shea Stewart: Yeah.

02:14:45.836 --> 02:14:47.976
I mean, I, I get shy and get a little

02:14:48.026 --> 02:14:50.126
Rupert Isaacson: Now I'm going to
make you close up because I said that.

02:14:50.176 --> 02:14:50.716
Shea Stewart: I know.

02:14:51.996 --> 02:14:59.086
I, I really, I seriously thought I was
developing and I probably was getting

02:14:59.086 --> 02:15:01.966
some dementia and it, it coincided with.

02:15:02.046 --> 02:15:06.566
A few things that brought me inside more.

02:15:06.566 --> 02:15:08.056
I was on my computer more.

02:15:08.296 --> 02:15:10.246
We had the stronger WiFi.

02:15:10.286 --> 02:15:12.356
My circadian rhythm was messed up.

02:15:17.216 --> 02:15:22.886
But even, even my hair, I was losing
a lot of hair and it's grown back.

02:15:23.466 --> 02:15:23.836
Rupert Isaacson: Interesting.

02:15:24.486 --> 02:15:24.736
Shea Stewart: Yeah.

02:15:24.736 --> 02:15:26.806
And they say that's one
of the first signs of

02:15:30.256 --> 02:15:33.316
improvement in your health is when
your hair starts to grow back.

02:15:33.381 --> 02:15:39.221
Rupert Isaacson: Mitochondrial joy
expressing itself through the hair.

02:15:39.331 --> 02:15:39.511
Yep.

02:15:43.771 --> 02:15:44.221
All right.

02:15:44.241 --> 02:15:48.371
Well, I think let's
wrap it up here for now.

02:15:48.971 --> 02:15:52.651
I think that we've definitely drawn
people's attention to the importance

02:15:52.651 --> 02:15:56.401
of mitochondria for humans and horses.

02:15:56.401 --> 02:16:01.621
We've drawn people's attention to
why natural environments, as much

02:16:01.621 --> 02:16:05.891
as possible, including lighting
and so on, are helpful in this.

02:16:07.811 --> 02:16:08.871
We've gone a little bit too far.

02:16:09.121 --> 02:16:13.411
down the rabbit hole of the
difficulties of our modern age with

02:16:15.961 --> 02:16:21.391
5g Electronic devices everywhere but
things that we can do to mitigate this

02:16:21.391 --> 02:16:24.371
and also the types of lighting and so on

02:16:26.811 --> 02:16:32.021
I really would encourage listeners
go check out shay stewart.

02:16:32.241 --> 02:16:41.916
We have all of her websites in that,
you know, it On the written bit,

02:16:43.296 --> 02:16:49.196
but Shay, could you also just for
those readers who like to hear it?

02:16:49.586 --> 02:16:52.436
Can you just tell us how they
can get in touch with you and

02:16:52.436 --> 02:16:53.686
how they can consult with you?

02:16:55.226 --> 02:16:59.156
Shea Stewart: Probably through my
website, which is equinebalance.

02:16:59.756 --> 02:17:08.016
net and or my probably through there.

02:17:08.116 --> 02:17:12.936
I don't go, I have a Facebook
page, equine balance.

02:17:13.206 --> 02:17:13.566
Rupert Isaacson: Okay.

02:17:13.566 --> 02:17:15.636
Equine balance, equine balance.net

02:17:15.666 --> 02:17:17.346
or the Facebook page, equine balance.

02:17:17.616 --> 02:17:19.236
There's good shit on that Facebook page.

02:17:19.236 --> 02:17:20.676
I've, I've read some amazing things.

02:17:20.856 --> 02:17:26.206
What I didn't get to this time was
something in your last post, which is do

02:17:26.326 --> 02:17:28.906
humans actually photosynthesize because Oh

02:17:30.181 --> 02:17:30.471
Shea Stewart: yeah.

02:17:31.276 --> 02:17:31.486
Yep.

02:17:31.576 --> 02:17:31.816
We do.

02:17:32.386 --> 02:17:35.326
Rupert Isaacson: Just quickly, it
sounds rather like we do with this light

02:17:35.326 --> 02:17:37.956
thing as a, as the closing thought.

02:17:37.956 --> 02:17:39.516
How, how do humans photosynthesize.

02:17:41.396 --> 02:17:45.136
Shea Stewart: Well, we take light
and turn that light into energy.

02:17:46.416 --> 02:17:50.096
So, that's how humans photosynthesize.

02:17:50.686 --> 02:17:52.586
Rupert Isaacson: It's not something
you think about us doing, is it?

02:17:53.346 --> 02:17:53.856
Shea Stewart: No.

02:17:54.056 --> 02:17:54.276
You say

02:17:54.276 --> 02:17:55.196
Rupert Isaacson: you're vegetating.

02:17:55.196 --> 02:17:58.226
It's like, yes, yes, I'm busy
photosynthesizing over here, actually.

02:17:59.496 --> 02:18:04.546
Shea Stewart: Yeah, and some of it
is through the melanin in our skin.

02:18:05.566 --> 02:18:10.686
Absorbs frequencies of light and
then liberates that into electrons.

02:18:10.686 --> 02:18:10.736
Yeah.

02:18:10.736 --> 02:18:10.746
Yeah.

02:18:10.746 --> 02:18:10.756
Yeah.

02:18:11.636 --> 02:18:14.156
And that's photo, that's photosynthesis.

02:18:14.776 --> 02:18:15.226
Rupert Isaacson: Brilliant.

02:18:17.036 --> 02:18:17.546
Just a shame.

02:18:17.546 --> 02:18:20.356
That's, it's a shame that we're
not producing oxygen as we do it.

02:18:21.136 --> 02:18:22.456
Wouldn't that be nice for the planet?

02:18:23.466 --> 02:18:24.006
Or are we

02:18:24.716 --> 02:18:30.046
Shea Stewart: We are our, our mitochondria
does, our mitochondria does a lot.

02:18:30.366 --> 02:18:30.876
They're very,

02:18:30.881 --> 02:18:32.886
Rupert Isaacson: are, are we,
are we shoving that oxygen

02:18:32.886 --> 02:18:33.921
back out into the world?

02:18:33.921 --> 02:18:35.456
Like a tree Does not

02:18:35.816 --> 02:18:36.416
Shea Stewart: No.

02:18:36.596 --> 02:18:36.806
Rupert Isaacson: No.

02:18:36.956 --> 02:18:37.406
Sadly

02:18:37.906 --> 02:18:38.056
Shea Stewart: no.

02:18:38.056 --> 02:18:38.356
Sadly

02:18:38.356 --> 02:18:39.616
Rupert Isaacson: for the trees, no.

02:18:39.616 --> 02:18:40.606
But no, not for the trees.

02:18:40.606 --> 02:18:42.016
'cause we're giving them carbon dioxide.

02:18:42.626 --> 02:18:43.046
They love that.

02:18:43.376 --> 02:18:43.586
Shea Stewart: Yeah.

02:18:43.586 --> 02:18:44.336
And they, they need that.

02:18:44.381 --> 02:18:45.701
Rupert Isaacson: They

02:18:45.701 --> 02:18:46.231
Shea Stewart: need that.

02:18:47.721 --> 02:18:48.721
Rupert Isaacson: I hope they're grateful.

02:18:55.811 --> 02:18:56.781
It's been a treat.

02:18:57.241 --> 02:18:58.121
Will you come on again?

02:18:59.601 --> 02:19:00.821
Shea Stewart: I would love to.

02:19:00.871 --> 02:19:03.361
People are interested in this stuff.

02:19:03.361 --> 02:19:05.021
I could talk about it all day.

02:19:05.571 --> 02:19:06.081
I know.

02:19:07.041 --> 02:19:07.241
Rupert Isaacson: Yeah.

02:19:07.341 --> 02:19:10.691
And full disclosure, we just
share and I will likely be doing.

02:19:10.701 --> 02:19:16.931
We did it last year, at least an online
series of little seminars together.

02:19:18.906 --> 02:19:23.176
I'd love to do one physically, but
you're eight bazillion miles away.

02:19:23.746 --> 02:19:27.166
And whenever I'm in Texas,
it's like zoom through.

02:19:27.726 --> 02:19:32.596
It would be great to do maybe a
retreat at some point with no 5G.

02:19:32.996 --> 02:19:34.346
Maybe we should talk about that.

02:19:34.636 --> 02:19:36.386
Rebooting our mitochondria.

02:19:36.666 --> 02:19:38.176
That would be a cool retreat, actually.

02:19:39.781 --> 02:19:41.001
Maybe we should talk about that.

02:19:41.221 --> 02:19:41.671
Okay.

02:19:42.241 --> 02:19:48.841
Listen, as you heard it here, get
on the waiting list for our show.

02:19:48.941 --> 02:19:50.881
Come and sort out your mitochondrias.

02:19:50.881 --> 02:19:53.881
Well,

02:19:54.141 --> 02:19:57.271
Shea Stewart: we'll reconnect to
nature and know why now we'll,

02:19:57.481 --> 02:20:00.821
we'll actually know what it's
doing and why it's so important.

02:20:00.991 --> 02:20:06.351
I think that's, that's my main
message is to get it out there.

02:20:08.276 --> 02:20:11.366
Not only, you know, we say, oh,
we need to connect to nature,

02:20:11.836 --> 02:20:17.026
but we, there's a reason, there's
a physical, biological reason.

02:20:17.026 --> 02:20:18.756
Our physiology depends on it.

02:20:19.156 --> 02:20:20.316
Rupert Isaacson: Absolutely, it does.

02:20:21.586 --> 02:20:22.736
Absolutely, it does.

02:20:23.046 --> 02:20:25.716
And so, yes, those of us in the
equine assisted field, we're

02:20:25.716 --> 02:20:27.076
trying to help the physiology.

02:20:27.491 --> 02:20:31.831
Because the psychology is, is
the physiology of others and

02:20:31.831 --> 02:20:35.181
ourselves, mitochondria, nature.

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Thank you.

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Shea Stewart: Thank you.

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Thank you for having me on.

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And

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Rupert Isaacson: you're just
the coolest person, Shay.

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Shea Stewart: I

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Rupert Isaacson: always find out
like 27 things I didn't know in

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like a given minute with you.

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It's, it's extraordinary.

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I like to be made to feel dumb.

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It's good.

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It's healthy character building.

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All right, then.

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So till the next time.

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Thank you again and hopefully speak soon.

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Shea Stewart: Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, everybody.

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Rupert Isaacson: thank you for joining us.

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