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Legacy modernisation is one of the most difficult, and often misunderstood, elements of digital transformation. It can be expensive and very disruptive. It has more in common with business transformation than cloud migration and can lend itself to risky large scale implementations.
Dave, Sjoukje & Rob are joined by John Kodumal, CTO and Co-Founder of LaunchDarkly, they talk about how greenfield development is increasingly rare, evolving a running system is much more common. New method and tools are now available to move this past a static or quarterly update, risk heavy process, such as feature management which allows legacy to be modernised with zero outage and switch over risk.
In this weeks trend we talk about the emerging field of developer productivity, why it can be helpful, but its also very difficult to do effectively.
TLDR:
00:50 Intros
01:30 Cloud conversation with John Kodumal
21:30 Developer Productivity
29:42 Scaling People by Claire Hughes Johnson (book recommendation)!
Further Reading:
Scaling People: https://amzn.eu/d/af6XVeN
Dave, Sjoukje & Rob are joined by John Kodumal, CTO and Co-Founder of LaunchDarkly, they talk about how greenfield development is increasingly rare, evolving a running system is much more common. New method and tools are now available to move this past a static or quarterly update, risk heavy process, such as feature management which allows legacy to be modernised with zero outage and switch over risk.
In this weeks trend we talk about the emerging field of developer productivity, why it can be helpful, but its also very difficult to do effectively.
TLDR:
00:50 Intros
01:30 Cloud conversation with John Kodumal
21:30 Developer Productivity
29:42 Scaling People by Claire Hughes Johnson (book recommendation)!
Further Reading:
Scaling People: https://amzn.eu/d/af6XVeN
Creators and Guests
Host
Dave Chapman
Chief Cloud Evangelist with nearly 30 years of global experience in strategic development, transformation, program delivery, and operations, I bring a wealth of expertise to the world of cloud innovation. In addition to my professional expertise, I’m the creator and main host of the Cloud Realities podcast, where we explore the transformative power of cloud technology.
Host
Rob Kernahan
VP Chief Architect for Cloud and Cloud Realities podcast host, drives digital transformation by combining deep technical expertise with exceptional client engagement. Passionate about high-performance cultures, he leverages cloud and modern operating models to create low-friction, high-velocity environments that fuel business growth and empower people to thrive.
Producer
Marcel van der Burg
VP Global Marketing and producer of the Cloud Realities podcast, is a strategic marketing leader with 33+ years of experience. He drives global cloud marketing strategies, leveraging creativity, multi-channel expertise, and problem-solving to deliver impactful business growth in complex environments.
What is Realities Remixed?
From the award‑winning team behind Cloud Realities, Realities Remixed explores what happens when people, culture, industry, and technology collide, because real breakthroughs rarely come from technology alone.
In each episode, hosts Dave Chapman, Esmee van de Giessen, and Rob Kernahan dig beneath the surface of innovation to understand what’s truly shifting. They speak with leaders, practitioners, vendors and thinkers across industries to explore how technology reshapes human behaviour, organisational culture, and society, for better and sometimes for worse.
Web - https://www.capgemini.com/insights/research-library/cloud-realities-podcast/
Email - realitiesremixed@capgemini.com