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<v Speaker 1>So, Jeff, I'm just wondering, did you know that I

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<v Speaker 1>was going to do that out? No, Well, in the world,

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<v Speaker 1>it's hard to predict what's coming it is. Well, we're

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<v Speaker 1>about to jump into the Book of Revelations.

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<v Speaker 2>Diving into the deep end today. So he's Chris and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Jeff and we're the Bible guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, so, uh, first of all, you didn't know it

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna.

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<v Speaker 2>Least I did not. Did that hurt a little? I

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<v Speaker 2>just left you pretty I know, Actually, actually, I you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I reacted pretty strongly. But it's because I'm such an

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<v Speaker 2>amazing actor.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, real good jobs and a whip.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So so listen our segment today is you having

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<v Speaker 1>to guess whether or not what I'm about to read

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<v Speaker 1>is a Bible verse or a quote.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh these are hard. The last one only got three

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<v Speaker 2>out of five.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, I mean and then here's the thing. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not even like a like you know, everybody you know

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<v Speaker 1>remember like sometimes we would say it's all from Justin Bieber.

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<v Speaker 1>These are just just famous quote.

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<v Speaker 2>So here, so it's either a quote or a Bible verse.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, here we go. You ready, Yes, I have been sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>I have been reduced to skin and bones, and I

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<v Speaker 1>have escaped death by the skin of my teeth.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to say a Bible verse.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, because that because who would.

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<v Speaker 2>Quote that's right? That's right?

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<v Speaker 1>And where do you think it's found? It could be,

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<v Speaker 1>but it wasn't. It was job the skin. Okay. So

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<v Speaker 1>how about this one? God helps those who help themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a quote, that's of course.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh. And by the way, I didn't know who said this.

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard that quote. Did you know that Benjamin Franklin

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<v Speaker 1>said that?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>So how about this one? Spread love wherever you go.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a quote. Who do you think said the Beatles?

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<v Speaker 1>That's awesome, that's awesome, and you know what, it totally

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<v Speaker 1>is believable. But it was mother Teresa.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh in this case, yeah, mother, she said the Beatles.

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<v Speaker 1>Well not only that, but like I bet you a

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<v Speaker 1>thousand people have quoted that just in our lifetime.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, how about this one? Don't judge each day by

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<v Speaker 1>the harvest that you reap, but by the season that

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<v Speaker 1>you plant.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh it sounds like a Bible verse. Well, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>say it's a quote.

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<v Speaker 1>You are four for four?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was by Robert Lewis Stevenson. Oh so, and

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<v Speaker 1>then here's the last one.

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<v Speaker 2>Of my favorite writers, is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Yea, yeah, here's the last one. Let me gulp down

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<v Speaker 1>some of that red stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, I'm going to say. It's a quote.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently it's from Genesis, chapter twenty five of verse thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>In what translation.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I'm looking at it because this is crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>What go down some of them? The red stuff? That's

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<v Speaker 1>sounds that's about it.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds like a rapper talking about kool aid.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I have never all right, hang on, hang on,

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<v Speaker 1>keep the crowd entertained. I'm almost there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, twenty in the front thirty, thanks buddy.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so it says Esau. Oh, it's Esau Sells's birthrate. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>he's talking about the stew.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>And so then verse number thirty in this translation reads, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>Esau said, I'm starved, give me some of that red stew.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is how Esau got his other name, Eatam,

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<v Speaker 1>which means red. Okay, So let me gulp down some

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<v Speaker 1>of that red set the.

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<v Speaker 2>Message message or something that's Oh man, that is so funny.

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<v Speaker 2>So she snuck one in, but it was through a paraphrase.

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<v Speaker 2>So is a paraphrase an actual Bible verse or is

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<v Speaker 2>it a quote.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a really good huh, you may get a point.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna get at least half a point. Paraphrases are

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<v Speaker 2>not a scripture.

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<v Speaker 1>You're assuming that it's a paraphrase.

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<v Speaker 2>The message is a paraphrase. That's what she got it from.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, right, we don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Well, we need to find out because that's I

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<v Speaker 2>want my point.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's so funny.

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<v Speaker 2>So dude, we are jumping off into the deep end

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<v Speaker 2>on this one. And so we're getting into really the

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<v Speaker 2>end times, not just the Book of Revelation. We're not

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<v Speaker 2>going to go for our longtime listeners. We usually go

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<v Speaker 2>chapter by chapter, verse by verse, but in the Book

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<v Speaker 2>of Revelation, we're not going to do that. Instead, we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to go a big idea by big idea, event

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<v Speaker 2>by event, person by person as much as possible through

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<v Speaker 2>the end time stuff. So a couple of things. One,

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<v Speaker 2>the Bible guys do not claim to be theologians and professors, right,

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<v Speaker 2>we try to be theologically accurate as much as possible.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you're looking for a seminary level class or

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<v Speaker 2>Bible study on the Book of Revelation. Well, this isn't

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<v Speaker 2>it right, And our lifetime listeners already know that. But

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<v Speaker 2>if you're a new person listening, this.

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<v Speaker 1>Is I mean hopefully it's and you know, this would

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<v Speaker 1>be something that I would choose to listen to our

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<v Speaker 1>version of this topic or this book, because we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to approach it more sort of topically, and we're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to get caught up in the details of saying,

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<v Speaker 1>now this, we believe that this happens after this, and

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<v Speaker 1>this represents this and let's you know, we're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to be because here's quite frankly, there's so many opinions

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<v Speaker 1>about revelation. In fact, I would go, let me go

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<v Speaker 1>on a limb and say this lightheartedly. Nobody comments more

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<v Speaker 1>than revelation people. And then not only will they comment,

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<v Speaker 1>but they'll only comment.

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<v Speaker 2>Forever, and they'll be angry that most most of.

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<v Speaker 1>The time, they'll be angry. Uh and and this is

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<v Speaker 1>and now. But by the way, we're not trying to

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<v Speaker 1>by me making those kind of comments. I'm not trying

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<v Speaker 1>to like stereotype everybody in the world, but I am

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<v Speaker 1>saying that's my life experience, so I can't you can't

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<v Speaker 1>deny that right. So in my life experience, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>case and all of that, But there's so many opinions

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<v Speaker 1>about it, so we could we can get really lost

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, what do you think this means or

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<v Speaker 1>this means or when is this or what's the difference

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<v Speaker 1>between this view and this view? And so I think

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<v Speaker 1>instead of doing that, and by the way, that there's

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<v Speaker 1>probably two thousand of those.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, well, how many Christians are there? There's about

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<v Speaker 2>that many. There's about that many opinions about these things.

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<v Speaker 2>And here's why prophecy in the Bible. Yeah, looking forward,

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<v Speaker 2>We just talked about this with our staff. Looking forward

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<v Speaker 2>at prophecy, it's like looking at a foggy mirror. You

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<v Speaker 2>can kind of see the outlines and get the gist,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's not clear. And then on the other side,

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<v Speaker 2>after a thing happens and you look back, you go, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what it meant. And the proof of that is

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<v Speaker 2>how many times in the Book of Matthew does Matthew

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<v Speaker 2>say and the disciples didn't understand that the Bible had

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<v Speaker 2>prophesied this. Right, So the disciples understood it afterwards, but

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<v Speaker 2>not before, And it happens over and over and over

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<v Speaker 2>again through the gospels, where the disciples and the people

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<v Speaker 2>who were following Jesus did not understand clearly all of

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<v Speaker 2>the prophecies until they had been fulfilled. And so some

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<v Speaker 2>of the things that we're going to talk about are

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<v Speaker 2>pretty clear and pretty evident. He's really really clear on this,

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<v Speaker 2>he spells it out X Y Z right. But there's

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<v Speaker 2>other things that dude, he talks about a dragon with

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<v Speaker 2>you know, seven heads and ten crowns coming out of

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<v Speaker 2>the words. Is that a real dragon with seven right?

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<v Speaker 2>Or is that a metaphor for something or is that

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<v Speaker 2>an allegory for something? Right? So, and this is the

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<v Speaker 2>problem with the book Revelation. There's very clear factual things

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<v Speaker 2>that are said. There are also allegorical things, and there

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<v Speaker 2>are metaphorical things all put together and sometimes and and

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<v Speaker 2>and the Bible doesn't transition between them, doesn't say okay,

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<v Speaker 2>and now we're talking metaphorically metaphorical right, right, right? And

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<v Speaker 2>so so this is this is some of the difficulty

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<v Speaker 2>of it. So, hey, we're going to navigate through it

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<v Speaker 2>in a way that it makes sense to us. And

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<v Speaker 2>if you agree, that's fine. If you disagree, that's fine too.

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<v Speaker 2>But we've got a couple of warning labels. One, don't

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<v Speaker 2>lose the delight in the details. Right. Sometimes man, people

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<v Speaker 2>go in and dive down super deep and stay down

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<v Speaker 2>way too long and come up mostly dead.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>If you if you lose the light in the details,

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<v Speaker 2>you're missing the point.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. So Yeah, because overall, revelation is given to us

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<v Speaker 1>to communicate some very big and important and essential ideas.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exciting things.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, Jesus is in control of history. This is

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<v Speaker 1>who he is. He wins, God wins.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we read the back of the book. We can

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<v Speaker 2>tell you that at the.

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<v Speaker 1>Beginning, and and you know he's coming. Uh, there's hope

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<v Speaker 1>for those who believe these are the things that revelation

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<v Speaker 1>points to. Yeah, and so that's what you're really saying.

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<v Speaker 1>You're saying, don't dive down too deep to lose the

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<v Speaker 1>overall message of revelation.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. And if you find somebody who is who steps

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<v Speaker 2>up and goes, I know for sure that this is

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<v Speaker 2>what this means or that means or there is no

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<v Speaker 2>within Christianity, there is no single cohesive understanding of these

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<v Speaker 2>prophetic things. Right. So there's a certain amount of vaguary.

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<v Speaker 2>So watch out for polarization. Quite honestly, in teaching about

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<v Speaker 2>the end times, people who want to fight about it,

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<v Speaker 2>I would just say stay away from them. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I've had friends I've had in the faith group that

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of grew up in man alive. If you

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<v Speaker 2>believed in a pre post or mid trip belief system,

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<v Speaker 2>you may or may not be allowed to be my

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<v Speaker 2>friend or preach at my church. You know. That's how

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<v Speaker 2>many of our preachers, our pastors acted just based on nuances.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I would say watch out for polarization. God

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<v Speaker 2>is vague on purpose because he's he's got a better

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<v Speaker 2>plan and it'll be clear to us. And in the meantime,

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<v Speaker 2>if we pretend like we're experts or professionals on this,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that we're really running some real risks. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's our warning label for today. We've got a lot

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<v Speaker 2>to read about. Yeah, sure, so we're going to read

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<v Speaker 2>from three big passages. Say, we're gonna cover a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of Bible verses. And sometimes when it comes to these things,

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<v Speaker 2>it's better just to read what the Bible says than

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<v Speaker 2>for you and me to try to commentate on it.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, So let's just read the words of God

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<v Speaker 2>and let the words of God speak to you. So

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<v Speaker 2>the first big question we have, and this is the

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<v Speaker 2>when's it all going to happen? Right? So that's not

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<v Speaker 2>very first week of Christianity, right right. So here's what

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<v Speaker 2>in Acts, chapter one, verse six. So when the apostles

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<v Speaker 2>time come for you to free Israel and restore your kingdom?

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<v Speaker 2>And he replied, the Father alone has the authority to

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<v Speaker 2>set those dates in times, and they're not for you

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<v Speaker 2>to know. But you will receive power when the Holy

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<v Speaker 2>Spirit comes upon you, and you'll be my witnesses telling

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<v Speaker 2>people about me everywhere in Jerusalem, throughout Judea, in Samaria,

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<v Speaker 2>to the ends of the earth. And after this, he

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<v Speaker 2>men suddenly stood among them, men of Galilee. They said,

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So what's interesting is is that other verses also

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<v Speaker 1>not just the day but the hour. Okay, we'll not

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<v Speaker 1>be able to be known. And then it even goes

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<v Speaker 1>as far as to say only the Father knows, not

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<v Speaker 1>even Jesus knows, right, right. So so the answer to

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<v Speaker 1>the question when is it all going down? Okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>this is this is I just got done talking with

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<v Speaker 1>somebody about this before this podcast. When you drive from

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm sort of poking your breath.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to be gross, right, No, no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>Actually it's when the roads get better as soon as

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<v Speaker 1>go into Ohio, there's a billboard that's that's basically that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm poking fun but it says like God's coming next Tuesday, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So it has the prediction of when and so, and

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<v Speaker 1>then when that day passes and God doesn't come, it

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<v Speaker 1>recalculates change. They change the sign, and then it has

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<v Speaker 1>like a new date, right, a new prediction. And so

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, you know, they're trying to do the blind

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<v Speaker 1>score on the nothing. So what's but what's really interesting

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<v Speaker 1>in my you know, my wife's in the car, whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>my kids are in the car, and I'll see that

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<v Speaker 1>and it'll literally have a prediction. We'll say like God

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<v Speaker 1>is coming, and we'll give the date and I'll say, hey, kids,

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<v Speaker 1>the only thing we know for certain is that God's

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<v Speaker 1>not going to come on that date, right right, right right.

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<v Speaker 1>It's actually the only thing we know is that no

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<v Speaker 2>So Jesus literally says the Father alone has authority. But

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<v Speaker 2>basically what Jesus says is it's not for you to know.

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<v Speaker 2>He literally is saying, this is the Plight way, this

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<v Speaker 2>is the Bible way. Of saying, Jesus going, it's none

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<v Speaker 2>your business, right right, Only the Father knows, and so

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<v Speaker 2>it's none of your business. Instead, you're going to be

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<v Speaker 2>filled the Holy Spirit and go tell everybody about me.

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<v Speaker 1>That.

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<v Speaker 2>So he pivoted them off of the curiosity of winning

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<v Speaker 2>is all this end and moved them back to their mission.

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<v Speaker 2>And so we have to be careful. I think this

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<v Speaker 2>is the first time that you find after the Resurrection

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus talking about this issue and he pulls away from it.

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<v Speaker 2>He says, none your business. The Father knows and he's

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<v Speaker 2>in control. You go about your business, and your businesses

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<v Speaker 2>tell everybody everywhere, and he says, hey, the power of

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<v Speaker 2>the hoyspirits there. So they're standing there with their mouths

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<v Speaker 2>wide open, looking up into heaven, and two angels have

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<v Speaker 2>to go, man in the galilee, njerim, what are you

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<v Speaker 2>standing here for? Get about your business?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>And so it wasn't like someday, go tell somebody it's

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<v Speaker 2>going right now, and so let's not get distracted by

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<v Speaker 2>these things from the mission God has and that is

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<v Speaker 2>to tell everybody. But for me, I have to tell

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<v Speaker 2>you knowing that there is an end game and that

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<v Speaker 2>God is working towards It kind of lights a fire

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<v Speaker 2>under me to want to tell everybody. I want to

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<v Speaker 2>go tell everybody that Jesus is coming soon. You need

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<v Speaker 2>to respond now right. I don't want to wait till

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<v Speaker 2>tomorrow because I don't know if he's gonna come. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>there's that. So I would say this, and we don't

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<v Speaker 2>have to overtalk it too much. But I love Revelation

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<v Speaker 2>chapter seven. If you're saying, so, when is it going

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<v Speaker 2>to happen, I can tell you this. It's not going

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<v Speaker 2>to happen until every people group, every tribe, every language

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<v Speaker 2>has somebody around the throne of Heaven. I'll just read

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<v Speaker 2>the passage. We don't have to talk about it too much.

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<v Speaker 2>But Revelation seven says, after this, I saw a vast crowd,

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<v Speaker 2>so there will be people from every tribe and language

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<v Speaker 2>around the throne. After this, I saw a vast crowd,

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<v Speaker 2>too great to count, from every nation and tribe and

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<v Speaker 2>people in language, standing in front of the throne and

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<v Speaker 2>before the lamb. And they were clothed in white robes

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<v Speaker 2>and held palm branches in their hands, and they were

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<v Speaker 2>shouting with a great roar. Salvation comes from our God,

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<v Speaker 2>who sits on the throne and from the Lamb, and

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<v Speaker 2>all the angels were standing around the throne and around

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<v Speaker 2>the elders and the four living beings, and they fell

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<v Speaker 2>before the throne with their faces to the ground, who

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<v Speaker 2>worshiped God, and they saying Amen, Blessing in glory and

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<v Speaker 2>wisdom and thanksgiving and honor and power and strength, belong

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<v Speaker 2>to our God forever and ever. Amen. And then one

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<v Speaker 2>of the twenty four elders asked me, who are these

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<v Speaker 2>who are clothed in white? Where'd they come from? And

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<v Speaker 2>I said, sir, you're the one who knows. And then

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<v Speaker 2>he said to me, these are the ones who died

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<v Speaker 2>in the Great Tribulation. They've washed their robes and the

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<v Speaker 2>blood of the Lamb and made them white. And that

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<v Speaker 2>is why they stand in front of God's throne and

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<v Speaker 2>serve him day and night in his temple. And He

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<v Speaker 2>who sits on the throne will give them shelter. They

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<v Speaker 2>will never again be hungry or thirsty, and they will

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<v Speaker 2>never be scorched by the heat of the sun. For

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<v Speaker 2>the Lamb on the throne will be their shepherd. He

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<v Speaker 2>will lead them to springs of life giving water. And

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<v Speaker 2>God will wipe every tear from their eyes. So there's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot in there. But one of the things he

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<v Speaker 2>says is that there's going to be people from every nation,

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<v Speaker 2>every tribe, every language standing in front of the throne.

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<v Speaker 2>This is why when the disciples go to Jesus and say, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>when's it all going to end? He goes, none of

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<v Speaker 2>your business, father knows. Go tell everybody. And until we've

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<v Speaker 2>told everybody, until every nation, every tribe, every language, every

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<v Speaker 2>people group has somebody standing around the throne, Jesus isn't

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<v Speaker 2>coming back, right, So we've got to be about our

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<v Speaker 2>father's business.

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<v Speaker 1>And there are scriptures to talk about. That's the main

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<v Speaker 1>reason why he tarries. It's the main reason why he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't come back now. So if you're wondering why doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus come, he's waiting for us to fulfill the great commission.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think next week we talk about that. Two

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<v Speaker 2>Peter says, God's not willing that any would perish, but

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<v Speaker 2>that all would come depends. So he's not being lazy

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<v Speaker 2>in this, he's being patient in that, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's great, and I love of course, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like there are certain parts of revelation that you hear at,

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<v Speaker 1>in verse number seventeen, and God will wipe away every

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<v Speaker 1>tear from their eyes. It's just wonderful. And then the

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<v Speaker 1>imagery of it's all about the Lamb, right, yea, So

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<v Speaker 1>it's capital l lamb. Jesus is referred to as the lamb.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, when he came on the scene. It was

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<v Speaker 1>the first thing that John the Baptist said, behold the Lamb.

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<v Speaker 1>The Old Testament pointed toward it, and all the way

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<v Speaker 1>in the future in the Book of Revelation, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it just calls Jesus the Lamb, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>all about him.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is the one that's sitting on the throne, right,

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<v Speaker 2>But let's jump to Revelation chapter one, the very beginning.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the very beginning, and then I guess we

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<v Speaker 2>got to wrap up. We're going to run out of time, dude.

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<v Speaker 2>We're never getting this done in two weeks, you know that, right,

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<v Speaker 2>there's so much, so much affrasition. We know what we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to go until we cover it covered. We were

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<v Speaker 2>hoping to do it in two weeks, but I just

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<v Speaker 2>can't imagine it. So here's the beginning, the very beginning,

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<v Speaker 2>because I know some of our listeners like what, I

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<v Speaker 2>need more information right now, so let's just start the

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<v Speaker 2>beginning of revelation. Verse eight, Jesus says, I am the

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<v Speaker 2>Alpha and the Omega, which literally means the beginning. In

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<v Speaker 2>the end, says the Lord God. I'm the one who is,

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<v Speaker 2>who always was, and who is still to come, the

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<v Speaker 2>Almighty One. And then John said, when I turned to

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<v Speaker 2>see who was speaking to me, I saw seven golden

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<v Speaker 2>lamp stands, and standing in the middle of the lamp

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<v Speaker 2>stands was someone like the son of Man. He was

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<v Speaker 2>His head and his hair were white like wool, as

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<v Speaker 2>His feet were like polished bronze refined in a furnace,

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<v Speaker 2>and his voice thundered like mighty ocean waves. He held

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<v Speaker 2>seven stars in his right hand, and a sharp, two

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<v Speaker 2>edged sword came from his mouth, and his face was

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<v Speaker 2>like the sun and all its brilliance. And when I

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<v Speaker 2>saw him, I fell at his feet as if I

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<v Speaker 2>were dead. But he laid his right hand on me

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<v Speaker 2>and said don't be afraid. I'm the first and the last.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm the living one. I died, but look, I'm alive,

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<v Speaker 2>forever and ever, and I hold the keys of death

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<v Speaker 1>That is one of the best.

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<v Speaker 2>I cannot read it without getting teared up about it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so man alive. What a vision of Jesus John has

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<v Speaker 2>in this moment. And Jesus has to say, hey, listen,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to tell you some crazy things, but don't

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<v Speaker 2>be afraid, right, because I hold all the keys. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And that's that's the message. So I think a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people enter into or curious about the book Revelation

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<v Speaker 2>or curious about the end times, and it's because they're

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<v Speaker 2>afraid of it. And so even though we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>study some really crazy things, Jesus goes, don't be afraid.

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<v Speaker 2>I've already won.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And I love how John describes his vision of

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus as quite honestly the most intimidating moment, right, And

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<v Speaker 1>And so you know when when the Book of Philippians

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<v Speaker 1>talks about one day, every knee will bow every time,

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<v Speaker 1>will confess. Yeah, yeah, that God, you know that the

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus Christ is Lord. It's because how can you not

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<v Speaker 1>after reading this?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Right, and then he leans over. He laid his right

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<v Speaker 1>hand on me. So if you fall on the ground

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<v Speaker 1>as if you're dead, it means you're on the ground, right, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So he leans over and he puts his hand on

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<v Speaker 1>him and says, don't be afraid. Oh, it's amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's a lot of things. Next week we'll talk

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<v Speaker 2>about the description around the Throne of God, which is

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<v Speaker 2>like this intense times ten. It's really amazing. But there

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<v Speaker 2>are a couple things. He's standing among the lamp stands.

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<v Speaker 2>We know in the next couple chapters, it highlights the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that these lamp stands our pictures are representative of churches, right,

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<v Speaker 2>seven of the major churches at that time, and we

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<v Speaker 2>know the stars represent the angels that are supporting and

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<v Speaker 2>encouraging those churches. Right. So, as you read through the

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<v Speaker 2>Bible will begin to unpack what those are, and you

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<v Speaker 2>as we won't spend a lot of time on that.

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<v Speaker 2>But what I love about it is he's standing among

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<v Speaker 2>his church. He's standing among the believers, and so he's

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<v Speaker 2>not a God that's separate from us. This powerful one

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<v Speaker 2>to sharp two edge toward. We know the word of

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<v Speaker 2>God is sharp right, and Jesus is the word of God.

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<v Speaker 2>And so that's what it's talking about, is the word

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<v Speaker 2>of God is coming out of his mouth. He's declaring

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<v Speaker 2>his power. Everything is amazing. But he's doing it in

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<v Speaker 2>the context of the relationship he has with his church

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<v Speaker 2>and right from the very very beginning. So you don't

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<v Speaker 2>have to be afraid God. Jesus didn't tell you these

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<v Speaker 2>things to be afraid to make you afraid. Jesus told

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<v Speaker 2>you these things to give you courage and confidence that

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<v Speaker 2>he's in control. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you're listening to the podcast and you don't

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<v Speaker 1>know God, and maybe you just tuned in somewhere and

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<v Speaker 1>you're just a person who's curious, just know that God

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<v Speaker 1>is both forgiving and relational. But he is also everything

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<v Speaker 1>that John describes here as well. Yep, so he is

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<v Speaker 1>he is the fullness of who he is is someone

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<v Speaker 1>who's a warrior. He's the creator, the first, and the last.

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<v Speaker 1>He is quite honestly, I don't know. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>say the word intimidating, but it's okay. If he's on

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<v Speaker 1>your side.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, so what you're doing is you're seeing Jesus and

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<v Speaker 2>all his glory. The last time we saw Jesus, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>in the Bible, he was ascending to heaven. The time

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<v Speaker 2>before that he was a lamb being beaten and sacrificed, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and now here he is in all of his power

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<v Speaker 2>and glory.

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<v Speaker 1>Technically, we saw him one other time in Acts nine

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<v Speaker 1>when he appeared to Paul.

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<v Speaker 2>Right right, that's right, yeah, But as far as the

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<v Speaker 2>descriptors of him, what you have is this lamb at

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<v Speaker 2>the whipping whipping post and being crucified. That's what you saw.

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<v Speaker 2>Then we see him as a man resurrected. Right then

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<v Speaker 2>the god man resurrected, ascending to heaven. But now we

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<v Speaker 2>see him in all of his glory. Is the king

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<v Speaker 2>of the universe. That's pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think that is a great introductory podcast, and

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<v Speaker 1>we want you guys to buckle up because we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to be diving in to get crazy. Yep, we'll see

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<v Speaker 1>you tomorrow on the Bible guys. Hmmmm