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Intro:
The following program is brought to you by the Tennessee
Broadband Association.

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Lead Tennessee Radio, conversations with the leaders moving our
state forward.

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We look at the issues shaping Tennessee's future: rural
development, public policy, broadband,

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healthcare, and other topics impacting our communities.

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Carrie Huckeby:
Hello, everyone. I'm Carrie Huckeby, the executive director of
the Tennessee Broadband Association.

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My guest on this episode of Lead Tennessee Radio is no stranger
to the broadband industry.

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That's Kaleigh Cox, director of marketing at DxTel.

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DxTel is a TNBA platinum member.

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They provide broadband marketing services to rural ISPs through
their Harper Marketing Library, Harper

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Studios offering video, and actually our TNBA Conference opening
video was produced by them this

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past year. We loved it.

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Cooper did a great job coming to Nashville, interviewing our
legislators, our Speaker of the House, and also our key

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players. They also have a newly released e-sports gaming
platform, and Fiber Homes.

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And fiber homes is what we are going to talk about.

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So welcome, Kaleigh.

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Kaleigh Cox:
Thank you so much, Carrie.

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I'm really excited to be here.

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Carrie Huckeby:
Well, I think we would all agree that the housing market is kind
of a wild ride right now, and people are

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moving from state to state for all kinds of reasons.

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And Tennessee is one of the fastest growing states in the
country for not only business, but also for individuals.

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And they need a place to call home.

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They need a place to live.

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So they have this checklist of things, or I imagine they do, 
that they are looking for, and I can't imagine

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that broadband isn't on that list.

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So first, it's find a realtor, and there's plenty of those
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So tell us about how Fiber Homes works – bringing together that
realtor, the buyer and then how

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the ISP fits into that picture.

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Kaleigh Cox:
Yeah. Great question.

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And as someone, I don't know if you know this about me, Carrie,
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am not at all surprised that it's one of the fastest growing
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I love Tennessee.

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I'm in South Carolina now, and that's where I'm from.

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But if I didn't live in South Carolina, I would live in
Tennessee.

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But yeah, we are seeing broadband as the most important
consideration for homebuyers.

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They are ranking that more, homebuyers are ranking that as an
important consideration than are even ranking commute time or

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local amenities. So it's extremely important.

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And you're right, there's kind of three groups here that Fiber
Homes is looking to connect.

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There's the home buyer, who wants that fast, reliable internet, 
and our industry knows that means fiber.

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And then there is the local ISP that really wants to let all of
these new movers in their markets know they exist before that

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buyer locks in to a two year contract with a national provider,
who has worse service and worse customer service, but they just

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didn't know their options.

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And then you've got the realtor, and the realtor wants to
provide an excellent client experience.

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They want to be positioned as the local expert, and there's a
lot happening right now in the real estate industry.

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There's a lot of lawsuits around inflated commissions for
agents, and then you've got rising interest rates when compared

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to recent years. And so we're expecting it to get harder for
realtors to win clients to sell homes.

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And so they need a way to stand out and provide excellent
service.

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And I'm mostly talking about the buyer's agent here who
represents the home buyer, like you brought up.

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But it's also good to remember the listing agent, and it's their
job to put the home on the market and help the seller.

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And something I want to mention there is Fiber Broadband
Association recently shared the results of a study they did, and

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found that fiber now adds 4.9% on average to the value of a
single family home.

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And so that's exciting because we've been using the 3.1% stat
across our industry since 2015, and so we knew it had to be

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higher than that now. But it's nice to have some data there.

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But at Fiber Homes, we want to serve all of those needs at once
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realtor. So we provide buyers with the most accurate address
level information that is available in terms of broadband

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availability. We provide the ISP with multiple pathways to reach
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process, including by partnering with local agents.

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And then we provide real estate agents with a bunch of free
tools that help them provide that better customer experience,

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either as a buyer's agent or a seller's agent.

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Carrie Huckeby:
Well, I can see that the realtor could really use this as an
extra tool because it is so competitive.

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I mean, if you just watch social media, how many realtors are on
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You know, they're looking for listings, or they have listings.

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So I know an extra tool in their tool bag would be helpful, like
Fiber Homes.

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But you sent me an email a couple of weeks ago with some really
impressive stats on top of that 4.9%.

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That's good to know.

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Tell us about Realtracs.

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What is that?

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How are the realtors using it, and what does that really mean to
some of the TNBA broadband companies?

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Kaleigh Cox:
Yes! We are so excited about this, Carrie.

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So Realtracs is an MLS.

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And for those who may not know, that stands for Multiple Listing
Service.

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That's the platform or the database where agents and homebuyers
view homes on the market.

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So yes, sites like Zillow are very popular, but what those sites
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MLS around the country, the true data source, and then compiling
them into one user friendly site.

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So when you work with an actual realtor, they're going to be
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And that's where they post listings.

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That's where they browse listings.

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That's how they share info with their clients.

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And there's about 600 MLS across the US.

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Realtracs is far and away the largest one in the state of
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It also reaches into Alabama, Georgia and Kentucky.

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I checked their website.

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According to that, they have over 20,000 users and more than
1,900 real estate offices.

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So that's a very large reach as far as MLS is go.

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We turned on an integration with them in September.

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That integration was via CRS data.

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So CRS, I'm getting a little in the weeds here, but bear with
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Carrie Huckeby:
That's okay.

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Kaleigh Cox:
That stands for Courthouse Retrieval Systems.

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That company provides a lot of MLS, including Realtracs, all the
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general property report that agents pull any time their listing
or showing a home.

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So using CRS, we build an integration so that all of those
general property reports that agents pull every day now

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have a section on broadband availability that's based on Fiber
Homes's data.

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So that means that if an ISP has certified that address in Fiber
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cases, the confirmed fiber provider at that home.

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And so some of those stats I shared with you, you know, we saw
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367,633 broadband, or not just broadband, but property reports
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of Realtracs in the month of October alone.

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And many of those reports featured a TNBA provider as the
confirmed provider.

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And so I looked at that, 63,580 of the property reports that
have been pulled from Realtrac since

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we turned this on in September have featured a TNBA member
listed as the confirmed certified fiber provider.

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And that's just across seven TNBA brands that participate in
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So massive, massive exposure.

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Carrie Huckeby:
Would you have ever imagined it would be that many when you
started doing that?

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Kaleigh Cox:
No, and we have.

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So I pulled this out of our dashboard.

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Every pro-partner gets a dashboard to view kind of how their
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things like that. And it like Realtracs alone like kind of
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history. I mean, it's just been incredible the reach of that
platform.

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So it's a massive win for Tennessee.

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Carrie Huckeby:
It is. And when I saw that number, I thought, it blew my mind
that that many people are looking for homes and houses are

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looking for listings.

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It's just crazy, crazy number.

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So if I'm the realtor going into your website allows me to sign
up for an account, I believe.

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So I can search addresses, and I can produce a broadband report
for the client, for my client.

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Talk about those benefits.

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Kaleigh Cox:
Yeah, absolutely.

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So the Realtracs reports was talking about, that's the general
property report.

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Agents don't have to have Fiber Homes accounts or run separate
reports.

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That data is now in the general property report.

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But any agent and any state can create a free account on Fiber
Homes.

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And we've got some really cool value adds for them that, like we
talked about before, can help them stand out from their

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competitors. So they can run, if they search an address either
on the home page or they create their free account and get into

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what we call the Pro Portal, they can search and address and run
a separate broadband property report that's branded for them as

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the agent, and it features more information than what's in the
one section of the CRS data report.

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So they actually get details on speeds and prices.

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If the ISP has told us they offer a new mover promo, that shows
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There's a website, a phone number, so they can share those
digitally or print them and hand them to their client.

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But there's more than just the broadband property report.

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For example, if they are the agent listing the home, they can –
and it's one of our Fiber Homes Pro partners has certified the

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address – they get access to a whole toolkit of free marketing
materials to help them make the market aware that it's got fiber,

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so they can take advantage of that potential 4.9% boost in
value, right?

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So they can download designs for door hangers or yard signs or
rack cards.

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They can use that kind of thing for open houses, or they can
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that in with photos of the home.

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A very easy way to leverage the certification as an agent.

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And then all of that is co-branded with the Fiber Homes Pro
partner, the ISP that certified the address.

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So they get that kind of easy publicity as well.

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So lots of just extra little tools and resources that are free
for agents in there.

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Carrie Huckeby:
Yes, that's amazing.

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I can remember years ago, many years ago, when I worked in
marketing and sales for a broadband provider.

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You know, we tried to figure out how to get those materials in
people's hands that were moving into town.

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They were new to the area.

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We talked about putting them, putting them in local chambers,
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company at that time to hand them out.

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Because we were competing with bigger names, and sometimes they
didn't know we existed.

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So Fiber Homes is doing exactly that, isn't it?

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Kaleigh Cox:
Yes. And that's because DxTel, our company that, you know, owns
Fiber Homes, we've worked with broadband providers for years

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now, and we heard so many of our clients, we work with the
marketers.

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And we heard so many of our clients say something very much along
the lines of what you just said.

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And they were all – many of them, not all of them – but many of
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path forward. So that's yeah, exactly what Fiber Homes was built
for.

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Because the truth is, you know, people in our industry, I know,
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But the average home buyer really does just see internet as a
utility, like water or electricity.

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And so, you know, they've always expected their real estate
agent to tell them where to go for water and electricity.

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And they're now asking agents for where to go for internet and,
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an easy way to answer that question or to answer it accurately.

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And so we're just trying to make that much easier for them to
answer your questions with confidence and provide that experience

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so that ultimately the home buyer has accurate information
without the ISP having to do the legwork you just described.

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Carrie Huckeby:
Right. Because I can also remember years ago getting calls from a
realtor that said, "Hey, someone's looking at this house.

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Do you serve this area?" You know, "Do you have internet there?

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Do you have service there?" So this certainly makes it easier
for the ISP and the realtor.

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So you've probably got at least one good success story.

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I know you've got lots of them, but have you got a success story
where all of these pieces came together for someone?

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Kaleigh Cox:
Yes, and it's out of Tennessee.

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So Twin Lakes has been able to benefit from the Realtracs
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had 28 agents create those free accounts for access to the extra
tools.

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But I went into their dashboard.

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Like I said, any of our Pro partners can look at data like this.

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But I went into the Twin Lakes dashboard to see exactly what
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In their service areas, in towns that they serve, 2,658 property
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Realtracs since September.

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We also have an integration on movoto.com, which is one of
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22 times potential homebuyers on those sites have clicked out to
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and that showed them Twin Lakes.

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And then they also, Twin Lakes overlaps with another smaller
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You know, I mentioned Realtracs is the biggest, but there are
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Twin lakes also overlaps with the Upper Cumberland Association
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us. And they've seen another ten agents pull reports there.

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So, you know, I think Twin Lakes probably is doing some stuff in
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promote Fiber Homes to their agents because we've seen those
agents creating accounts.

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But a lot of that exposure is happening without them having to
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company.

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Carrie Huckeby:
And I think, too, and you're right.

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I believe Twin Lakes advertised a webinar or maybe a meeting for
their realtors where they could come in and

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talk about and learn about Fiber Homes.

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So I'm sure it's education is a big part of that.

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Kaleigh Cox:
Yeah, absolutely.

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And we try to make that really easy for the ISP.

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We know that, you know, most of the companies we serve are
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doing. And so there's two ways we do that.

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We run a quarterly webinar.

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So once a quarter, it's the same content each quarter.

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But we, you know, do a general webinar that any agent in the
country could watch that talks about fiber, explains that

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compared to other technologies, and then introduces them to the
free tools in Fiber Homes.

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And then we also, you know, we give the ISPs materials to
promote that.

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So they can either say, they can just promote it online, and say
here, you know, join this free live stream.

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Or they can host, you know, a lunch and learn or something like
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as well. And we give them materials to promote it, and then to 
hand the agents, you know, in person.

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So some people leverage that quarterly webinar, and then other
Pro partners will actually work with Jill, our partner success

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manager that's there for them to plan something custom in their
market.

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And then the presentation is much more specific to that ISP in
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We do it both ways for free for Fiber Homes Pro partners.

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So I'm sure Jill would be able to tell me exactly which one they
did.

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But I'm sure Twin Lakes was taking advantage of one of those
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Carrie Huckeby:
Good. Great to know that it's out there.

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So it is such a great tool, and we've touched on maybe some of
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word out there.

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Are there any other challenges that you found as far as getting
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up or anything else?

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Kaleigh Cox:
Yeah. So, you know, I think with broadband providers, most of the
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either do the full package of Fiber Homes Pro, or they'll do a
slimmed down version we offer where they can simply certify their

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addresses. And so just making sure they show up without, you
know, any of the bells and whistles.

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And so the vast majority, once they've heard about Fiber Homes,
which can go over in a half hour at most, they want to do one of

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those two options.

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The challenge is, I think getting them on the call to talk about
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and the companies we work with are smaller.

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They don't have people on house to own this as a full time
thing.

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And so they worry that if they sign up for Fiber Homes, they're
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already has too much to do.

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And so, you know, I'd love to let them know if they're listening
and that has prevented them or anything like that, that we have

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way more tools available for ISPs to leverage than any one ISP
is using.

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I mean, our goal is to provide you with every option your team
could possibly want in building relationships with agents and

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boosting brand awareness with homebuyers.

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But no one ISP is using all of them.

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It's really meant to meet your team where you are.

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And especially if we can work with you to get into the local MLS,
like we did with Realtracs, I mean, it just kind of takes off on

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its own from there. But, you know, in the days or months leading
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But I never want an ISP to feel like if they can't do
everything, they shouldn't do anything.

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And so we try to make that easy.

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And you at TNBA, Carrie, have done a great job of helping us,
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really appreciate. And when you see a bunch of providers close
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have the power to go to a big MLS like Realtracs and say, "Hey,
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You want this data.

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You know, our data has been certified by all of these
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and I really appreciate you helping us get the word out.

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Carrie Huckeby:
Well, you're welcome because I'm thrilled to see our providers
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but also going with the Pro package as well, because, you know, 
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35% of the state.

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And, you know, it's about raising awareness of where we serve,
and the work that we're doing.

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And to me, the Fiber Homes just really brings that home, brings
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know what's happening in the rural environment.

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That you can get these gig/gig connections and ten gig
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Kaleigh Cox:
Yes. Yeah, absolutely.

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Carrie Huckeby:
So I guess one of the other challenges, too, as you mentioned, is
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coordinate and integration, right?

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Kaleigh Cox:
Yeah. And if anyone is interested in this, I have a two-pager I
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So my email is kcox@dxtel.net.

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But at a high level, the way we have

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approached this is going up a level.

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So there's 600 MLSs right.

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But above that, there's only a handful of companies that build
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The platforms in which they put that data and deliver it to the
agents and to local home buyers.

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And so, every time we've had an MLS interested in the last
couple of years we've been doing this, we have built the

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integration at that tech stack level, which then immediately
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So of the 600 MLSs, at least two-thirds, and I think we've built
another since I pulled that stack.

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But at least two-thirds could turn on a free integration today.

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Like they already are using one of these companies we've
integrated with.

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So we've been able to kind of scale very quickly going that way
instead of building one off integrations.

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And regardless of what platform they use or what details or
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completely free for the MLS.

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So the challenge is just letting them know we're not trying to
sell them anything.

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And then, you know, still, even with the free option, a lot of
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it to the board, and the board has to approve it.

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And that may only happen once a quarter.

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And so even though we offer something that's completely free,
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sometimes how long it takes to get traction.

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And that's why we kind of do this in partnership as much as we
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If they're part of Fiber Homes Pro.

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And Jill will get on with them and say, "Hey, do you guys already
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or ask the board for this?

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It obviously means a lot more to them coming from the realtors
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outside company." So yeah, lots of considerations there, but I'm
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Carrie Huckeby:
Yes, I think so.

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It's a great tool.

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To wrap us up, Kaleigh, tell us about the partnership between
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I think that was something that happened, was that last year or
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Kaleigh Cox:
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I think we started that early this year.

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But the other day I told someone, yeah, I met with them earlier
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2022. So I am not the most reliable person on when things
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Livability.com is a platform that does marketing for small to
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And so, not the big urban centers, but a lot of the cities kind
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And their website does those lists that often go viral, like
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But they help relocation researchers identify places that they
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heard of before.

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And Livability has been around for quite some time, but they had
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availability as part of that conversation or those rankings.

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And they really wanted to change that, and so that's why they
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And they rolled out what they're calling the Connected Community
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And so providers that have certified addresses in Fiber Homes can
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Livability, as a Connected Community.

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And that means we do a feature story on them.

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And then there's a, you know, a Connected Community badge that
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And this has been particularly popular with our municipal
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goals of economic development and attracting residents.

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But we've even seen cooperatives and independent companies use
it because then they can bring this cool value add to their

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communities. And then also get some publicity themselves with
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soon, because we obviously do a section about, you know, in our
feature stories about fiber.

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That's kind of the story we're telling and who that provider is.

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So if any of your listeners want to go to livability.com/
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you can see the stories we're telling there.

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And that includes features on Bristol, Martin and Cookeville in
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Carrie Huckeby:
I did check it out.

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It is a great website, and I must say, I'm one of those people
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Best places to live, best communities to be in.

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You know, I like to read because I want to see if I'm, you know,
if my community is on the list.

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Kaleigh Cox:
Yeah, it's a matter of community pride.

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Carrie Huckeby:
It is.

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Kaleigh Cox:
Absolutely.

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Carrie Huckeby:
It is. Well, Kaleigh, I really appreciate your time today talking
about Fiber Homes.

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I'm excited that our broadband providers here in Tennessee are
taking advantage of it, and their brand is

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showing up, and they're leveraging their networks there.

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Is there anything else you'd like to add before we close?

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Kaleigh Cox:
I guess just letting people know how they can find me.

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I mean, if they go to FiberHomes.com, and they click say, you're
an ISP, you click "ISPs" and you click to book a demo that will

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go to my calendar. So if you want to just schedule a call with
me, that's an easy way to do it from the Fiber Homes's site.

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I'm very active on LinkedIn, so you can find me there.

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Kaleigh Cox, K-A-L-E-I-G-H.

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Or as I've shared my email earlier, kcox@dxtel.net.

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I'm always happy to answer questions, book a call, or whatever
else might be helpful for our industry.

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Carrie Huckeby:
All right. Well, please reach out to Kaleigh and ask her about
Fiber Homes, if you're not participating, great service.

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I know our realtors here would love it.

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So my guest has been Kaleigh Cox, director of marketing with
DxTel.

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You've been listening to Lead Tennessee Radio, produced by the
Tennessee Broadband Association, cooperative and independent

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companies connecting our state's rural communities and beyond
with world class broadband.