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I mean, I'm not
suggesting you have a lot of ways
to improve, I think you're perfect.
Yeah, no, no, no.
That's never been me.
Yeah.
Is that bad?
No, I don't, it's you.
What are you even at?
I'm a little shocked at it.
I'd be curious how many
other people are like that,
because--
I'm terrible at texting.
Last year was more like, I
need to be more positive.
Yeah.
You know, I don't think that worked.
I, for better or for
worse, probably for worse.
That almost innately bothers me.
(laughing)
My life arc has always provided me
opportunities to improve.
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I think we're good.
I mean--
We're back into it two weeks in a row.
Two weeks.
Quite the record.
Yeah.
Well, I need to put it up on our website
and get these things from Transistor.
That's the web thing
that we used to host,
actually posting the podcast.
Got it.
And it gives you fake little medals
that you can download.
We just got our one year medal.
Oh yay.
We don't want to
actually send you anything.
You have to download it.
I mean, the best prize is
you always have to download.
Yeah, that's right.
That's right.
It's like--
It's been a year or so.
We talked about that
last time a little bit,
but it's crazy to think
we've done this for a year.
That is crazy.
Yeah, we did 47 episodes out of 52 weeks.
That's so cool.
Although now I'm curious,
which ones did we not do?
I don't--
Did we do abbreviated versions
like when we were on
vacation this summer?
We may have missed one or two on a
vacation here or there.
I think what happened
was the year anniversary
came when I created it,
not when we first posted one.
Got it.
So I think our first
one was until January 6th.
This week would be ours.
But we're still two probably short,
which I know we skipped one or two.
We have one in the
backlog for a rainy day.
That was never posted.
Yeah, and it might've
been the best one ever, but--
It may have.
I remember thinking,
hey, we're really clicking.
Oh really?
Mm-hmm.
How often does that happen out of 47?
It was quite a few.
There were a few where it was like,
I'm trying to think of
the transition in my head
while we're talking.
It's never good when we're trying to
transition something.
Usually we always try to
have some idea we're going into.
And we never get, the good
ones, we never get to those.
You know?
Yeah.
I feel like at least.
Yeah.
But who knows, maybe
others would discern.
I know.
Well, we'll have to do like a, you know,
pull the listeners or
something, you know?
Yeah.
Thumbs up, thumbs down.
I was really saying, I
really like to get like
a couple segments in
this where it's like,
we get to like things that we look
forward to every week.
Like people are like, oh, okay.
They do this, you know,
like everything else is lame,
but I do love their I'm peeved segment.
You know what I mean?
Yes, yes.
Like here's what peeved me this week.
Cause there's, there's
never a shortage of that.
No.
And it's nice.
It's probably a little, you know,
therapeutic for us to get it out.
For sure.
Yeah.
Cause we, we, I mean.
Even with you and I.
You know what?
You peeved me this week.
Are you peeved me today?
You peeved me.
Yeah.
We can, we can give
like real time, you know,
conflict resolution examples.
Yeah.
That'd be funny if we had like, you know,
we don't argue much
about much honestly at all,
but it would be funny one time to be
like, you know what?
Let's take this to the
booth, to the studio.
(laughing)
This is a real time talk through.
Uh huh.
Yeah.
Things like, I really,
we probably never published that.
Cause I would be like, oh, that might,
that might not like come across me.
I don't like how I am
painted in that one.
You know, like.
That's what I was thinking too.
I really am more stubborn than I thought.
Yeah.
Oh.
Yeah.
Hey, just out of curiosity,
what's that really blinking light?
All right, we're back.
We're back.
Some technical difficulties.
Maybe we'll see.
We'll see what this looks like.
If the video was horrible
for the last two minutes,
we hopefully it's better now.
I know.
This was the first time.
So in 48 episodes,
the first time we've ever had a take two.
Yeah, we used to take two.
Nobody's ever seen this, I don't think,
but we actually have a
clicker and we just take two.
(laughing)
We're so official.
Very official.
So all right.
Well, hopefully that's better than.
Hopefully.
We'll see what happens.
I now am a little nervous
cause I recorded morning
cereal right before this.
I know.
I actually saw it doing
that too at the end of it.
Okay.
And there was a morning
cereal episode last week
that was like,
It was.
It was like, yeah.
Frozen faces of Sean.
Yeah, video was fine.
Did you see that one?
I was sitting next to you
while you were editing it.
Oh yeah.
You didn't watch it any last week.
You took the week off too.
I did, but I did see it while editing.
Yeah.
All right, well, we'll
just keep going with it.
So,
anyways, you know, we kind of left off
last week with just,
last year was a good
year to get over with
and we're moving into a new year, 2026.
Yep.
You know, with high hopes and whatnot,
which everybody doesn't.
For me, this is a time of year
that's always like fresh starts.
I think a lot of
people say, do it that way.
That's why resolutions are around,
use resolutions like this
year, I'm not going to do this.
Or, you know, I'm going to start flossing
or whatever it might be.
Right, right.
You know, but it's
always like a new start.
And for me, I always, maybe more so.
I mean, is that how
you look at them or not?
Cause I'm getting the
feeling over the last day or two
that it's just another day to you.
It's not like, oh yeah, fresh start.
Yeah, no, it's not.
No, I don't have that
feeling of like, oh, fresh start.
I never did in New Year's
resolution until you're like,
Hey, what's your New Year's resolution
when we were dating
or married or whatever.
I just,
crazy.
You have to be in the
minority there, right?
I don't know.
I have no idea.
I've got to find out from people
if that's like a minority thing.
Cause I figured that the, so the new,
is New Year's special to you at all?
You know what?
It's, I always have mixed
emotions around New Year's.
Like I always think it's
kind of sad, kind of exciting.
Like, but overall it's one
of my least favorite holidays.
Yeah.
I don't get excited about it, per se.
Like I get excited about
the fun things that we do.
You know, we do family game
night and stuff like that,
but I don't, I'm not like,
yes, a new year, fresh start.
Like that, that is not my thought.
I wonder if that's,
I wonder if that just has
something to do with the fact
that you've always had life
together for the most part.
You know what I mean?
Whereas other people like me,
really before I met you mostly,
but I mean, I had tough years
where I was like just
trying to figure out who I was.
You know, trying to, you
know, claw myself out of,
you know, holes I dug and, you know.
And when you're in that,
sometimes it's like, okay,
I'm glad this year's done.
Because next year's
going to be a great year.
Cause this year, like you said,
this year is one of the
toughest of your life.
It's probably the
toughest of our life together,
but I would not say it
was the toughest of my life
altogether.
Right.
You know what I mean?
It was toughest from a family standpoint,
you know, and things like
that and what we deal with here.
But I've had way
tougher years in my life.
And that's why for me, it's like,
I was, it kind of blew my
mind a little bit that you're not
like, yeah, it's a whole new year.
Like this year I'm going to do this.
I'm going to do this.
Like most people are like,
I'm going to get in shape this year.
I'm going to stop drinking or
smoking or whatever this year.
Right, right.
And I guess for people
that are pretty happy with
themselves, it's not that way, I guess.
I mean, is that not, you
don't think of ways to,
I mean, I'm not suggesting
you have a lot of ways to
improve.
I think you're perfect.
No, no, no, no.
That's not what you're suggesting at all.
But I just, most people
are like, you know what?
This is what I'd like to, I
need to be better at this.
I'm going to do that this year.
And I know, cause you said
you've never thought of a new
year's resolution.
You've never really
thought of your life that way
or yourself that way.
Yeah, I don't, and it's
not that there aren't things
that I know I need to improve on.
I just don't necessarily think like,
oh, new year, first
start, let's do this now.
I am this person and I'm
going to be the person who loves
to eat salad and work out.
Like, I don't know.
I don't know if I'm
just more of a realist.
Cause I'm like, ooh, that
would be a drastic change.
And there have been times when I'm not
going to go on that,
but I just know I've never
been like, yep, fresh start.
Let's just be different now.
That's never been me.
Yeah.
Is that bad?
No, I don't, it's you.
I'm a little shocked at it.
I'd be curious how many
other people are like that.
Cause I mean, honestly,
I'm a little shocked at that.
That for me, I always
feel like I'm on a journey
of self-improvement
through life at all times.
I can always be better.
And what better time than January one,
beginning of a new year
when everybody's like,
it's a new year, you can do any,
the world's a new place,
this is gonna be the
best year of our lives.
It's always just like a
good day one starting point
versus March 8th is
when I'm going to do it.
You know what I mean?
Like, that's like a weird, you know,
but usually there's
something that most people
in from my
perspective are like, you know,
I could be better at
this and why not try?
This is a good time to try that.
Yeah.
And it's not that I
don't think that, right?
Like I just don't use the
new year as one of them.
And a lot of people do, I have no idea.
The percentage of people like me
versus the percentage of people like you,
I would imagine there's more people.
I mean, new year's
resolutions, that's a thing.
People talk about it.
They always say gym
memberships are the highest.
And so clearly there are so many people
that turn over that new leaf
or try to turn over that new leaf.
I don't, I think I'm partly
just jaded because I'm like,
yeah, but by January 7th,
they're not doing it anymore.
So that new thing that you wanted to do,
like most people don't keep doing it.
When I said I'm gonna start flossing,
I flossed every day since then.
You flossed? Yeah.
So I hear you on that.
And there's probably
been new year's things
that I'm like, I'm
gonna be better at this.
And then I haven't been
as good as I want to be,
but I've been better overall.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
It's not like I've ever been like,
this year I'm gonna do this every day
or I'm never gonna do this ever again.
And then on January 7th,
it was already out the door.
Right.
I just think I'm a little more
disciplined than that.
Yeah.
And maybe the general
population isn't as disciplined
as that.
And that's where you're
taking your negativity
towards that.
That's insightful.
Yeah.
And again, I wanna reiterate,
it is not that there
aren't things that I can work,
that I don't start over here.
There are things I
know I need to work on,
but I don't necessarily
look at that as January 1st.
It's like, oh, it's
finally getting through my head.
I need to be less stubborn.
Or, oh, it's getting through my head.
I need to respond faster on texts.
I'm terrible at texting.
I know I need to get better,
but it's not like January
1st, I'm gonna start that.
Yeah.
And I think those are things,
I think everybody does
that throughout the year.
Oh, okay, this is
bubbled up to the surface
and I'm having a bit of an epiphany here.
I'm bad at this, I
need to be better at this.
And if it's July 3rd,
it's not like, you know what?
That's a perfect
thing for next New Year's
for me to work on.
You know what I mean?
Most people are like, yeah,
I should probably start doing that now.
Most of the things I need to work on
are like a now thing, right?
But I think there's a lot,
the way I look at it is there's a lot of,
those are smaller goal type things
of just trying to be
better at being a person.
But then I think people
have like those overall
overarching ones too,
they're like, you know what?
In a perfect world, I wanna be more of
this kind of person.
And for me to get to that
point, I need to be doing this.
You know what I mean?
And a lot of people are
like, for working out.
It's like, okay, I'm
gonna get through the holidays
where I'm gonna eat a ton
and it's a really good starting point
to start January 1st, new
year, I'm gonna do that then.
I think that's why a
lot of people do that,
or drinking or whatever it might be.
I'm gonna cut back on that or whatever,
you know what I mean?
But it's a more holistic,
just always wanted to be
more of this kind of a person
or do this in general and
this is a good time to do it.
Because it doesn't affect my life
if I didn't do it
yesterday, if I don't do it tomorrow.
Like some of the maybe smaller things
that you're talking about are,
like if you're a bad texter,
it doesn't do any good in
September to wait to January.
It's like, I'm gonna just
start texting people back now.
Exactly.
You know what I mean?
But if you're gonna stop smoking,
you know what I mean?
I mean, like, yeah, I mean,
from a medical standpoint,
probably better start,
stop smoking tomorrow.
But it's like, you know what?
2026 is gonna be the year I stop smoking.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Maybe people do, maybe they don't,
but that's so interesting.
Like, I just, I mean, that's totally,
I learned something about it here.
Because we don't do that.
It's never really a big, like,
because I've asked you,
what are your resolutions?
You never have any.
No.
And I'm always surprised
because in the back of my mind, I'm like,
oh, well, I guess she's perfect.
(laughs)
No, and that's not it at all.
It's, I think part of it is,
and this goes back to maybe
what you were saying of like,
because of your upbringing,
not necessarily upbringing, but like,
how you are, your life arc,
yeah, your life arc, right?
Like, I think you feel like
you have to reinvent yourself
and you're, you know.
No, that's not right.
I'm not reinventing myself ever.
I am way-- How do I, yeah.
How do I say, like, I don't know,
you are more, you've always
been more about new starts.
Maybe when I was
younger, it was a reinvention
because it was like, I
don't like who I was.
I don't like people who think who I was.
You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah.
Maybe way back then, now
it's not like that at all.
I mean, like, my new year's resolution,
I keep using it four
years ago, is like flossing.
Flossing.
It's not like I'm like,
I need to major life change this.
Right, yeah.
For me, like, okay, flossing.
I don't even know
that I had one last year.
Last year, it was more like,
I need to be more positive.
Yeah.
I don't think that worked.
January 7th, I think
that would stop, too.
Someone on the road cut you off
and that one went way down.
It's just two and
eight, I can't stop that.
Yeah, because you can't change, I think,
personality things, like.
Right, but most people aren't like that.
I'm gonna be, well, I
guess you could say,
I'm gonna be more outgoing this year.
Even though I'm an introvert, I just need
to be more outgoing.
I need to try harder at making
connections with people.
Yeah.
Right? Yeah.
Say that. You can.
I'm gonna, this year, I'm gonna,
I'm gonna eat a little bit better.
I'm gonna start doing a, what's that?
Like a cleanse or a fast.
I'm gonna fast every month, you know,
or something like
that, you know what I mean?
Those are good times to
reinvent that part of yourself.
It's like, it's gonna make me healthier.
Yeah.
Now I'm holding myself to something,
I've got a start date,
people like start dates
for those kind of things.
Yeah.
So, anyways, we're kind of
beating the dead horse here,
I think, to some degree, but.
I'm shocked at that.
I'm sure we'll talk about
that more after or off of this.
(laughing) That's shocking to me.
And maybe you hit the nail on the head,
or we both did here, where
it's more of an issue of,
just our life arcs.
Like you've just been happy with the
person that you are,
and you don't really need
to, quote unquote, reinvent
or add this, and the little thing,
the little tweaks that you
need to make to yourself,
like you just do it during the year.
Which I would be so interested to hear
how many people are like that.
Versus people like me who are like,
hey, I even like it in the office.
Oh yeah.
Because I file all the bills, you know?
Yep, yep.
All 12 months are in there,
and at the end of the year,
they all get stapled together.
I pull them all out, all the gas bills,
the electricity bills, cell phones,
all those, they all get put in a folder,
and we hold on to them for three years,
because that's maybe
what the tax man wants.
(laughing)
Right, right.
And I get rid of the
other three year one upstairs,
it cycles out, and it gets recycled.
Yep, yep.
But I love the cleaning.
You love that.
And that part of it too, you know?
That's like cleansing for you.
Oh, I love it.
That is a personality thing for me.
It is, yeah.
You are a hyper-organized person,
and you like the process.
Not only do you need things organized,
you like the process of organization.
That out with the old, in with the new.
And I think that's part
of that personality trait
is one reason why you gravitate
toward New Year's resolutions.
I, for better or for worse,
probably for worse, am not like that
when it comes to like, oh sweet,
I get to clean out my office,
I get to throw this away, this
is from an old year, you know?
No, I, hmm.
Yeah, you're just,
I just, I'm the steady Eddie, right?
Like I'm just like floating along.
Yeah, that's,
that almost innately bothers me.
(laughing) It's weird, I'm sure
people are reading through this
right now, but I mean, that
almost innately bothers me
that someone isn't looking for that
self-improvement on a consistent basis,
that you could be that
happy with who you are
and how you are,
mentally, physically, everything.
You know what I mean?
That, and it's not a resolution,
cause I'm not like,
here's my resolution this year everybody.
I'm not big on
resolutions, I don't care about that,
but a new year is always a
good starting point to like,
hey, you know, last year was a tough,
like I'm usually pretty
good about working out,
last year it fell off for a
million different reasons.
It started strong and
then it kind of fell off,
you know, it's summer
for whatever reason,
but, you know, it's always like,
you know, I just need to be
better about that, you know?
I'm gonna try to make
it through a whole year.
You know, it's almost like, you know,
it's almost like daring yourself
or setting a challenge
for yourself to be better.
Yeah.
And that's just, my life
arc has always provided me
opportunities to improve.
And I'm just shocked that there's others
that don't view it that way.
I mean, it's innately
bothering me right now.
(laughing)
Uh oh, I didn't mean to do that.
No, I know, that's crazy though, so.
Anyways, wow, well,
I'm sorry, I told you,
it's like, I got a good question for you.
We'll see how that goes.
Well, that went.
That was the question.
There it is, that was the big one.
I feel like I didn't answer it correctly,
although I answered it honestly.
No, there's no right or wrong on that.
You know, I mean, like, what I...
I would be curious if
there was like a psychologist
sitting here and how
they would explore that.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
That part of it.
Because, you know,
we've talked through things,
and now this is a little bit of pivot,
but like, you know, as a couple,
you have to be able to talk
about things that are like,
hey, here's something that, you know,
if you could do this
differently, it'd be better.
Yeah, yeah.
You know, we've been honest
with each other on that one.
I have to drag it out
of you a lot of the time,
so I'm like, tell me,
you know what I mean?
I'm a dumb male.
Like, sometimes you have
to hit me over the head,
you know, and just tell me.
Yeah.
And then I'll do it, 100%,
and me being the way that I am,
I'm fairly open, you
know, emotions on the sleeve.
I usually tell you, like,
hey, here's what I need,
you know, like, this is the
way this is coming across.
This is how this is.
So, I mean, I'm rambling here a bit,
but, and I'm talking too much,
but the long and the
short of it there feel,
to me, is like, generally when
we have some of those conversations,
you don't like to hear that
there are ways to improve.
Like, there is a lot of
pushback there at times,
and so this is just kind of
a bigger window into that,
like, oh, now I
understand even more so why,
anytime there ever is,
like, hey, if you could maybe,
you know, do this, and like,
where I'm always like the opposite way,
like, I'm an idiot, like, you know,
like if I mess up, just
tell me, I will change it.
You know what I mean?
Like, I'm okay not being perfect,
and I think this is where that
psychologist thing comes in.
You have to be perfect,
and this is what I'm saying,
I really don't have to
dive into this at all,
but when I tell you there's
ways, you don't like that.
That means you're not
doing everything perfect,
or a New Year's resolution.
How could I possibly improve?
That would mean I'm
not perfect right now,
and I'm not suggesting
you think you're perfect.
I know you're not.
That's not your personality.
But the little girl
inside you needs that.
Does that make sense?
Yeah, yeah.
I think there's, you know, and going,
I am a perfectionist, 100%.
Like, if I could be
perfect, I would pick that,
you know, is like my wish, right?
And I know I'm not.
But I don't know if this
goes back to like when I was,
I don't know what it was, you know,
like early dating and stuff like that.
I always read like,
you can't change people,
so don't even try, just
accept them for who they are,
you know, and so I've always been like,
you know what, whoever
you are, that's fantastic.
You don't need to hear from me.
You know better than I do
what you need to work on.
You know, so that's
always my kind of philosophy,
only because I know
exactly what I need to work on.
You know, and so it's like,
you're usually not telling me something
that I don't know already.
But do you think most
people are that self-aware?
I mean, I guess maybe
you are more self-aware
than a lot of people are.
If you know exactly
everything you need to work on,
that's very self-aware.
I don't know
everything I need to work on.
That's what you just said though.
Well, I know many of the
things I need to work on.
Okay, okay, that's a different thing.
I do, I'm like, if you
tell me I'm stubborn,
and I know that, thanks,
like I am aware of that,
you know, so I think that's part of it,
of like, oh, I know where I am not.
Let alone, I am not even
good, let alone perfect, you know?
That's not true at all.
I feel like, now I feel
like you're backpedaling here,
and I'm not trying to
come down on you at all here.
That was just an open door,
and we can cut as much
of this as we need to,
because it's kind of a
real conversation here.
And I'm not trying to put you under,
you can put me under,
you can swap it and put
me under the microscope
somehow here too,
because there's lots of
ways to do that as well.
But I mean, even like you just said,
like I'm well aware that I'm stubborn,
as though it's something
you would, a bad trait, right?
And most people are like,
well, if I have a bad trait,
I think I'd like to improve that.
You know what I mean?
But the way you're saying it now,
to me, the way I'm hearing it,
the way it's coming across
is, this is the way I am.
People don't change.
I mean, like, I understand that,
thank you for telling me
that, but I already know that.
There's nothing in there of like,
and gosh dang, I've got to
get, I've got to change that.
It's my worst trait, I gotta get over it,
I gotta work through that somehow,
which is how I would approach.
If someone were to tell
me something like that,
that's how I would approach it.
Not saying I can change it fully,
but I can sure work on it, right?
Right, right, and I'm
not saying that either.
It's not that, just
because I know that something is,
like I have a bad trait,
that I don't try to work on it.
That's not what I'm saying at all.
I know I need to work on it.
It may never be perfect.
It may never even be good,
but it's something
that's on my mind to work on.
And if you have a trait like that,
oftentimes I'm like,
you know better than I do
what you need to work on, like,
and so I don't feel the need to mention
it most of the time.
Yeah, but sometimes to me,
and that's where we're
different, that's okay.
But if I'm continuously doing something,
like you should be like, hey, Sean,
apparently you should
know this better than me.
But you're not
improving on whatever that is,
you know what I mean?
Which is kind of the
offhand, but it's true to you,
because we've had lots of conversations
like with situations
that are uncomfortable.
You lay down, right?
Because there's a
long time we talked about
you being the doormat,
you know what I mean?
Like not standing up.
I dislike conflict.
I can't stand it.
And I'll never be good at it.
Yeah.
But it's something
that I have to deal with.
But that's even the
lowest level of conflict,
like with a spouse that
you've known for two decades plus,
be like, hey, you are not
getting better at this, Sean,
you've got to get better at that.
You know what I mean?
Like you should be able to say that.
That's just such an
interesting look into you
from my perspective,
you know what I mean?
Because that's one of the
things in our relationship,
one of the few things that
we've ever struggled with
is standing up for us and our family.
You know, to people that
are outside of our family,
whether it's other
family, whether it's friends,
whether whatever it is, standing up.
That's really tough for you to do.
Oh, it's terrible.
And again, it's not
something that comes natural to me
at all.
You know, and that is
something that like,
again, the conflict
resolution is one of those things
where it's like, I'm not gonna, you know,
be like, today I'm going to get better
at conflict resolution.
And that wouldn't necessarily be a,
because that would mean
you have to incite conflict,
I think, to...
No, but it would be like, this year,
I'm just gonna try
better to stand up for myself.
It's not like I'm gonna go search it up,
but if it comes up this
year, I'm gonna try to stand,
I'm gonna try to, I
don't wanna say this enough.
This, that would have
been, what is it called?
Passive aggressive. Passive aggressive.
Like, I'm gonna try to grow a backbone.
So that's what I was gonna say.
And that is, and that's one of the things
I struggle with, right?
I didn't realize I was passive aggressive
till I was told I was.
I'm like, okay, I win.
And then I kind of
tried to unpack why that is.
And I kind of now
understand why I'm passive aggressive
and I try to work, I
do try to work on it.
And now, one out of 10
times, I hear myself say it.
Not enough, obviously.
One out of 10 is terrible.
But that's my point though.
Your point would be, and same with me,
if I was gonna say that,
I'm going to try this year
not to be passive aggressive.
Maybe that would be my New Year's
resolution for this year.
I'm gonna try to do away
with passive aggressiveness.
And on a self-improvement journey, to me,
that's like, okay, well, if
I improve that 10% this year,
that makes me a better person.
So why not try?
You know what I mean?
Why not try?
Because that makes your life better.
That makes our kids' life better.
That makes our friends
and family's lives better
if I incrementally
just try to better myself.
And that's the life arc that I'm on.
And so that's where I come up with that.
Wow, really real here on--
Bombshell.
On KIKX 102.7.
What is the one?
On Love Actually.
He's like, oh.
I don't know that line specifically.
Where he says
something bad about Billy Mack.
And he's like, coincidentally,
Billy Mack's in the, whatever.
That's the worst Christmas song, yeah.
I know, maybe it was when he's like,
oh, can I be honest with you?
And he's like, oh, please do.
That doesn't happen very often.
Often you're right.
It was like, yeah, KIKX, yeah.
So I just threw it in
my old hometown, Winter,
I know, by heart.
(laughing) This is KIKX?
Kicks, 102.7.
Wow.
KIKX.
101.3 KDWB.
Yeah, that's a lot of, K-B.
K-D.
KDWB?
Yeah.
Oh, so it's only for KIKX, yeah.
Yeah.
You get a lot more syllables than yours.
syllables.
I had a lot of syllables, yeah.
101.3 KDWB.
Interesting, interesting.
Well, let's pivot a
little bit on that one.
And we can cut as much
of that out as you want,
because I know we got kind
of real in that a little bit.
And I don't want to feel like
it was on you too much there,
because we could have
turned that on me, like,
and I don't want, I mean,
we don't even dive into it,
but we could have turned it on me.
I mean, there's lots of,
we all have little kids inside of us.
Yeah.
When we talk about it, you know,
we can't believe that we're, you know,
in our mid to late 40s,
because we still feel like kids.
We still feel like we're in our 20s.
Yeah.
But ultimately, we are kids
that are just kind of grown up.
But I mean, we've built
these defenses and, you know,
we've built a lot of
things over time, you know,
around just that delicate,
innocent little kid, right?
We've built careers about it.
We've built education around it.
We beat social norms around it.
You know, so we've built
up just all this stuff,
but if you just knock all that down
to get into the center of it,
we're still just those little kids.
Yeah. You know, I wasn't trying to
pick on you at all in there,
but you know, you're
wanting to be perfect
is kind of in the middle
of yours to some degree,
maybe, might be in there.
And I'm not even trying to,
but like in the middle of
mine is a lot of, you know,
there's a lot of things
that I've struggled with too
that ultimately manifest themselves
in our everyday lives,
even as adults, right?
Like embarrassment or feeling adequate
or feeling, you know,
I want to say love's not
the word, but appreciated,
feeling adequate, you know, with the
people that, you know,
that's mine.
Cause the second,
it even happened
earlier today or some point,
I was like, I just feel
like maybe it wasn't today,
but you know, but if I don't,
if I don't feel that like
sense of like, oh my gosh,
like I feel right
now, like I'm not needed
or appreciated or something like that.
I mean, it's one of
those things that take,
it's like embarrassment.
It takes you straight
back to that little kid.
Oh yeah.
You know what I mean?
And I know a lot of the things,
a lot of my negative qualities,
when I come from that,
that's one of its deepest roots.
So I'm not, I wasn't
trying to pick on you at all.
I'm willing to put
myself out there for that too.
Yeah.
Well, and I think most of our
negative traits or qualities
in general come from
that child, you know,
like whoever we were as a child,
it comes from that.
And it's just, everyone was a
little bit different, right?
Like some of it truly is personality,
but then you compound
that and your nurture,
yeah, your nurture around
you either helps diffuse that
or it augments that bad
thing, you know, like.
It's always a balance of
nature versus nurture, right?
Nature usually gives it to you
and then depends on
how that was nurtured.
To your point, better, for the better,
and for the worse, potentially.
Right, totally true, totally true.
And it's just, it's so
interesting just to see like,
that's why, I love that we,
I don't know if we'll
keep it in or not, you know,
but I love that for one, for the first
time in 48 episodes,
this was like one of our
most real ones of like,
we're little kids inside.
I know everybody, we all try to peacock.
Oh, totally.
You know what I mean?
I love that term, by the way.
Yeah, it's the best term.
Everybody peacocks, shows their feathers,
puts their best foot forward,
that's what Facebook's
all about, all these,
you know what I mean?
Yeah.
And that's why when
you have a best friend,
or a best friend, or a
great spouse in good marriage,
when you're exposed to those things
and you know that you
can put those feathers down
and put those feathers away,
and as ugly as you might
be, or as simple as, you know,
behind those feathers, maybe
that's where that little kid is.
It's not perfect, that's a work.
For me at least, it's
always a work in progress.
I'm not a horrible person, I
don't have major blind spots,
but I can definitely
still improve on things,
you know what I mean?
And it's just interesting,
when people start
peeling back those layers
and being more real about what we are,
for me, it's just that next step, okay,
what are we gonna do to improve that,
you know what I mean?
And that's why I was so surprised,
because with you it was almost like,
you know what, it is what it is.
Why even try to change it?
Because people are who they are, right?
Why try?
That's what I heard you
say, and that's why innately,
for me, I'm like, that bothers me,
because it's like,
I'm constantly looking,
I'll let you talk.
Yeah, no, I was gonna
say, that's actually not,
if that's how it came out, I'm sorry,
that's not actually what I meant,
it was more or less around, you know,
it's like, I have a lot of
things to work on myself,
who am I to tell you, and
what you need to work on?
I mean, part of that is just like,
hey, I can't get frustrated with you,
because, we'll bring up a
real example today, right?
When you were really busy,
and you're moving
around the house quickly
to get all your things
done and all your to do,
okay, usually that's
me doing that, right?
Because I'm, I don't know,
I'm always kind of manic,
I don't know, but, it's like, I'm not,
I wasn't gonna say
anything to you about it,
because I was like, that's
something I need to work on,
you know, and it
wasn't until you were like,
what's going on, are you
okay, you seem stressed,
what's happening, and
you start asking questions
that I said anything, I
had no intention of doing it,
because I was like,
something I struggle with,
how can I tell you to not do it,
when it's still
something I struggle with,
and I need to get better at,
who am I to critique
you on that, you know?
And that a lot of times
is my thought process.
Yeah, well first of all,
how dare you say
something a bit negative about me?
(laughs) I'm just kidding.
No, totally fair point there,
I would just suggest that
there's a handful of people
that you have the right to
say that to in life, right?
We're not gonna go to the soccer field
and say that to people.
No.
Right, we're not gonna
stand out on the street
and be like, excuse me,
sense of fashion's way off, you know?
(laughs) That is not working.
As fun as it would be to go to the mall
and just rip everybody apart,
you know, that's not the suggestion here,
you know, there's 10 people in a life
that your life touches close enough
that you should be
able to say that to you,
and I'm one of them,
our kids are some of them,
and your direct family is some of them.
I mean, if you can't
have a real conversation
with those people, how
real is that relationship?
That's my field.
And I get it.
Now, again, that's deep because it's,
you were raised a certain way that,
you know, what is the,
what's that one, they
made a movie about it
where everybody's perfect on the street.
Oh, oh, oh, Stepford Wives or whatever.
Yeah, yeah, so it's a
little bit like Stepford Wives
but the step for
children, the step for child.
Like you're, this isn't me
getting into your upbringing
and pointing any fingers there,
but I'm just saying the outcome there is
you were not raised in a
way that that was normal
to say like, hey, this is,
that you could open up
that in that kind of a way
because you don't do it now
and you won't even, you
still won't do it with them.
You didn't do it
then, you won't do it now,
and you're even applying that to me.
Now, on the other hand, I
was so far the other way
that, you know, I was
brought up in a different way
where we did voice issues and opinions,
you know, and now I've
had to adjust as an adult
what the appropriate
manner to do that is.
Yeah.
Because sometimes I can over share that
or share it in a way
that's not as respectful
as it should be or as, not
respectful is the wrong word,
it's not as delicate as it should be.
Yeah. You know what I mean?
But that, to your point,
both of them are things
that we should be able to do,
I think in a healthy relationship,
but because of that
nature versus nurture thing,
both of us have come
to this point in time
and are able to do
that or unable to do that
in our own ways because of that life art
that has got us to this point.
Whether that's right or
wrong, that's where we're at,
and that's where I get
back to the resolution thing
where it's like, if we
understand those things,
well, maybe January 1st is just an
arbitrary day to say,
you know what, I'm gonna be better
about just being a little bit more open
or I'm not gonna be passive aggressive
or I'll try not to be manic
and bleed out everybody else,
the stress that I'm feeling.
Yeah. You know?
So, and maybe January
4th's a good day to do it.
(laughs) You know? Yeah.
So anyways, well, that was
an interesting conversation,
if nothing else.
I feel like I've offended you,
I can just see it in
your face, you're like,
you look like a deer in the headlights.
I feel like I've let you down.
Like, I'm surprised that
this is a revelation to you.
I mean, we've been
together for almost 21 years
and I've done like three resolutions,
one of which was flossing
and I've only missed a
handful of days in the last year
since I made the resolution thing.
Yeah, it's not like it's big things,
but it's not the resolution thing,
it's more or less just
always on a constant growth
of becoming a better person.
Yeah. You know what I mean?
And I'm not suggesting you're not wanting
to become a better person,
I'm not suggesting you
think you're perfect already
or whatnot, it's just the puzzle pieces
are falling together a little bit more
for me to see a clearer picture of why
some of the things that we've discussed
throughout our entire relationship
have been slow moving, right?
(laughs)
No, there's never been,
I'm trying to be delicate
on how to say certain things
that I'm not trying to
be offensive or anything,
but it is, I think it just painted
a fuller picture for me
today, which is interesting.
Not that I didn't know those things,
but it painted, I think it
was more of an epiphany to me
of like, oh, that's interesting.
Yeah.
That's a little bit
more why this or why that,
you know what I mean? Yeah.
And I think it's what I've come to find
in this conversation is
I think it's a lot deeper
of a conversation that has
to be had to get to those
real moments of self-improvement.
Yeah.
Discussions with you.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
That comes from much,
much deeper space in you.
That gets way, that's
way behind the feathers,
that gets close to the little Megan.
Whereas
self-improvement for me is not as close
to little Sean as other topics might be.
And I think that's where my epiphany was.
Interesting.
That makes sense.
Yeah, I think so.
I don't know, I am super curious though.
Like who is more like you versus me on
the resolution thing?
I am curious to be like--
Oh, out there?
Out there.
Like, gonna have to do
some scouting on the--
Well, just be open on it.
I'm not a huge resolution guy,
I just like the beginning of New Year.
It's always a new fresh start.
It just feels that way.
Like, you know, I just try to
be a better person this year.
I was never like, here's my
list of New Year's resolutions
and I'm gonna do every one of them.
I've never liked that.
It's just like, it's a
fresh start, it's a new year.
The opportunities are
endless to some degree.
And I'm not trying to
be naive about that,
you know what I mean?
But it's just like, it's gonna be,
why can't this be the best year?
Is how I feel.
Whereas I think you're just steady Eddie.
We just turned another date.
It's no big deal, it's a new calendar.
Steady Eddie, steady Eddie.
And I'm like, no, this could
be the best year of our lives.
And that's a different way to look at it.
Yeah.
And I'm like, let's just
hope it's better than last year.
Well, coming off last
year, it's gotta be.
We've had a couple of years
in there where you're like,
oh, that was a rough year.
Oh, that one was a great year.
Sometimes you do have those
where you look back and
you're like, that one, 2015.
I don't know if 2015 was a
great year, but you know.
Yeah.
It's like, you do have those,
some that are awesome and some that are.
Yeah, but as you look back at your life,
you're like, oh, there's
good and bad years, right?
Absolutely.
So I mean, it's just a
frame of reference of like,
you know what?
Yeah.
Hopefully this will be a great year.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Mm-hmm.
I mean, if you want to, we could go to,
you know, we could go to a calendar year.
Instead of a calendar year,
we could do a fiscal year in for you.
That'd make you feel better.
So we could start, you know,
April 1st, April Fool's Day.
That feels very apropos.
(laughs)
Oh my gosh.
In that year for us,
it would be incredible.
It would be amazing.
It's a fiscal year, not a calendar year.
It's a fiscal year.
Oh my gosh.
We have people watching this going,
what is a fiscal year?
No, they don't.
We have a smart audience.
A lot of finance people out there.
Yeah.
What is a fiscal year?
Yeah, that's right.
We're a fiscal year.
We're doing fiscal
New Year's resolutions.
That would be hilarious.
(laughs) Yeah, I think mine's more of
just that continuous journey,
whether it's on one one or
whether it's on eight six.
I don't know, I picked a random date.
I don't know that it is
even after this discussion.
I think you're just kind
of, you are what you are
is how it kind of came to me.
No.
Yeah, no, that's not how I see it at all.
Like it really is like
just getting better every day,
like better than I was yesterday.
I think that's more my mentality is like,
and life hands me
things as it does everybody
that naturally helps me work on things
that I'm not very good at.
You know?
Yeah.
You don't believe me at all.
I don't know what to say to it.
Well, let's stop recording
and we can continue the conversation.
This is interesting.
Yeah.
Interesting.
We're starting to get long.
So let's wrap.
Got it.
Unless you wanted to say something else.
No.
Sure.
Yeah, I think I've dug
myself quite the hole here.
So I don't know that I'm
gonna say anything else.
We don't have flashing
lights or anything this time.
So we're gonna have to
rerecord another one.
We'll put this one on ice.
We'll put the other one out.
We'll put the other one out
when we're sitting in Sadie.
Yeah.
Well, then should we think of a word,
sum up with the last week?
Yeah.
We should.
Pressure.
All right, ready?
Yeah.
One, two, three.
Prepare. Lego.
Oh, I love yours.
I love yours.
Okay, you have to
explain why we picked Lego.
Well, we just did a lot of Legos.
I was gonna say I had two.
But your prepare is
really where mine was.
It's just like, we had fun doing Legos.
We had fun over the holidays.
Over New Year's was great relaxation.
It went fast.
Always.
All that was fun.
But beneath that surface, that pressure
that I was talking
about, it's been building.
And come next week, I
mean, we're back on it.
That's the thing with vacations, right?
They're fantastic,
but you gotta come back.
That's reality.
I know.
We should just retire.
Let's just do that.
We're announcing here.
Yeah.
An announcement to make.
Mm.
Yeah, I know.
It goes to the string colors.
Yeah, that's exactly right.
No, because even though
we, I mean, we do fun things,
but it's still a very
relaxing time, right?
We do Legos.
Like, for me, that's super
relaxing to do Legos, puzzles.
It's all that same thing, right?
But I need that time to prepare
for just running at a full-out sprint
for the next, you know, five, six months.
Yeah.
And so not only is it like the new year
and preparing, it's that,
okay, I need to mentally
like recharge my battery so that I'm
ready to go for the next.
I don't think you got it this time.
I don't feel like you let it down.
We can't get too into
that for so long as it is,
but I don't feel like you
had that let down this time.
Like that decompression.
Oh, I think I did.
Did you?
Yeah. Okay.
Yeah.
So I'm pretty sure I did.
I'm pretty sure I did.
You'll check in with yourself later.
I'll ask myself later.
Oh no, if I'm sleeping till
like 8, 8.30 in the morning,
like, no, I think I'm okay.
(laughs) No, I'm good.
I think I'm nice and chill.
Good, good, good.
So, yeah.
Awesome.
Well, wrap it up.
We will wrap it up.
You wanna sign off?
You can sign off.
You're a better sign off.
I don't have a sign off.
That's why I was gonna
wait and see what you did.
Well, I have to stick with my chow chow.
I know, but we know, I don't have like a,
we'll see you on the
flip side and until then,
chow chow.
And I say see ya, right?
We'll see ya on the flip side.
Yeah, we don't have
a, that's the sign off.
I'm talking about that we don't have.
That we don't have.
Yeah. And have it.
Never.
Yeah.
We don't have a calling card.
It's just really bad.
The whole way through.
There's just like--
It like peters out of there.
You should have, yeah, just peters out.
Just loose.
Or we just go to the striped colors.
All right, I think that's it.
All right, chow chow.
We'll see ya.
All right.
That's pretty fun.
(upbeat music)
All right, we're back.
We're back.
I mean, I'm not
suggesting you have a lot of ways
to improve, I think you're perfect.
Yeah, no, no, no, that's never been me.
Yeah. Is that bad?
No, I don't, it's you. Really bad?
I'm a little shocked at it.
I'd be curious how many
other people are like that,
because--
I'm terrible at texting.
Last year was more like, I
need to be more positive.
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't think that worked.
I, for better or for
worse, probably for worse,
that almost innately bothered me.
(laughing)
My life arc has always provided me
opportunities to improve.
Uh oh, I didn't mean to do that.
Bombshell.
On KIKX, 102.7.
101.3 KDWV.
First of all, how dare you say something
a bit negative about me?
(laughing) Excuse me, since the fashion's way up.
Hey, just out of curiosity,
what's that really blinking light?
(upbeat music)
All right, we're back. We're back. I
mean, I'm not suggesting you have a lot
of ways to improve. I
think you're perfect.
Yeah, no, no, no. That's never been me.
Yeah. Is that bad?
No, I don't. It's you. Really? Not?
I'm a little shocked at it. I'd be
curious how many other
people are like that because...
I'm terrible at texting. Last year was
more like I need to be more positive.
Yeah. You know, I
don't think that worked.
I...
For better or for worse, probably for
worse. That almost innately bothers me.
My life arc has always provided me
opportunities to improve.
Uh oh. I didn't mean to do that.
Bombshell. On KIKX 102.7. 101.3 KDWB.
First of all, how dare you say something
a bit negative about me?
Excuse me.
Since the fashion's way off. Hey, just
out of curiosity. What's
that really blinking light?
You look like a deer in the headlights.
I feel like I've let you down.
It's crazy to think
we've done this for a year.
That is crazy.
Yeah, we did 47 episodes out of 52 weeks.
Hey, we're really clickin'.
Oh really?
Hey, just out of curiosity,
what's that really blinking light?
All right, we're back.
We're back.
We actually have a
clicker, and we just take two.
I mean, I'm not
suggesting you have a lot of ways
to improve, I think you're perfect.
Yeah, no, no, no, that's never been me.
Yeah. Is that bad?
No, I don't, it's
you. Really, you're not?
I'm a little shocked at it.
I'd be curious how many
other people are like that,
because-- I'm terrible at texting.
That's a perfect
thing for next New Year's
for me to work on.
Last year was more like, I
need to be more positive.
Yeah. Yeah.
I don't think that worked.
I, for better or for
worse, probably for worse,
and I'm the steady Eddie, right?
Like, I'm just like, floatin' along.
That almost innately
bothers me, which is weird.
My life arc has always provided me
opportunities to improve,
and I'm just shocked that there's others
that don't view it that way.
I mean, it's innately
bothering me right now.
Uh-oh, I didn't mean to do that.
But do you think most
people are that self-aware?
We can cut as much of this as we need to,
because it's kind of a
real conversation here.
Bombshell. On KIKX, 102.7.
101.3 KDWB.
We all try to peacock.
First of all, how dare you say something
a bit negative about me?
Excuse me.
Since the fashion's way off.
You look like a deer in the headlights.
I feel like I've let you down.
You don't believe me at all.
I don't know what to say to it.
That's the thing with vacations, right?
They're fantastic,
but you gotta come back.
Back to reality.
I think we're good.
I mean--
We're back into it two weeks in a row.
Two weeks.
Quite the record.
Yeah.
Well, I need to put it up on our website.
I would get these
things from like Transistor.
That's the web thing that we used to
host, actually posting the podcast.
Got it.
And it gives you like fake little medals
that you can download.
We just got our like one year medal.
Oh, yay.
We don't want to
actually send you anything.
You have to download it.
I mean, the best prizes
you always have to download.
Yeah, that's right.
That's right.
It's like--
It's been a year or so.
We talked about that last time a little
bit, but it's crazy to
think we've done this for
a year.
That is crazy.
Yeah, we did 47 episodes out of 52 weeks.
That's so cool.
Although now I'm curious,
which ones did we not do?
Do we do abbreviated versions like when
we were on vacation this summer?
We may have missed one or two on a
vacation here or there.
I think what happened was the year
anniversary came when I
created it, not when we first
posted one.
Got it.
I think our first one was until like
January like six, like
this week would be ours.
But we're still like two probably short,
which I know we skipped one or two.
We have one in the
backlog for a rainy day.
That was never posted.
Yeah, and it might have
been the best one ever, but--
It may have.
I remember thinking like,
hey, we're really clicking.
Oh, really?
How often does that happen out of 47?
It was quite a few.
Yeah.
It was quite a few.
There were fewer.
It was like, I'm trying to think of the
transition in my head
while we're talking.
It's never good when we're trying to
transition something.
Usually we always try to
have some idea we're going into.
And we never get the good ones.
We never get to those.
I feel like at least.
Yeah.
But who knows?
Maybe others would desert.
I know.
We'll have to do like a poll the
listeners or something.
Thumbs up, thumbs down.
I was really saying, I really like to get
like a couple segments in this where it's
like we get to like things that we look
forward to every week.
People are like, oh, OK.
They do this.
You know, like everything else is lame,
but I do love their I'm peeved segment.
You know what I mean?
Here's what peeved me this week because
there's never a shortage of that.
No.
And it's nice.
Probably a little, you know, therapeutic
for us to get it out.
For sure.
Yeah.
Because we I mean.
Even with you and I like, you know what?
You peeved me this week.
Are you peeved me today?
You peeved me.
Yeah.
We can we can give like real time, you
know, conflict resolution examples.
Yeah.
Would that be funny if we had like we
don't we don't argue
much about much honestly at
all, but it would be funny one time to be
like, you know what?
Let's take this to the
booth, to the studio.
We're going to.
This is a real time talk through.
Uh huh.
Yeah.
Things like I really would probably never
publish that because I would be like, oh,
I that might not like I don't like how I
am painted in that one.
You know, like I really am
more stubborn than I thought.
Yeah.
Hey, just sort of curiosity.
What's that really blinking light?
All right.
We're back.
Some technical difficulties.
Maybe we'll see.
We'll see.
We'll see what this looks like.
The video was horrible
for the last two minutes.
We hopefully it's better now.
I know.
This was the first time.
So in 48 episodes, the first time we've
ever had to take two.
Yeah.
We used to take two.
Nobody's ever seen this.
I don't think.
We just take two.
We're so official.
Very official.
So all right.
Well, hopefully that's better than.
Hopefully.
Let's see what happens.
I now am a little nervous because I
recorded morning
cereal right before this.
I know.
And I actually saw it doing
that then too at the end of it.
Okay.
So.
And there was a morning cereal episode
last week that was like.
It was.
It was like, yeah.
Frozen faces of Sean.
It was.
Did you see that one?
I was sitting next to
you while you were editing.
Oh yeah.
You didn't watch anything last week.
You took the week off to you.
I did.
But I did see it while editing.
All right.
Well, we'll just keep going with it.
So anyways, you know, we kind of left off
last week with just.
Last year was a good year to get over
with and we're moving
into a new year, 2026.
Yep.
With high hopes and
whatnot, which everybody does.
For me, this is a time of year that's
always like fresh starts.
I think I think a lot of
people say do it that way.
That's why resolutions are around.
I was resolutions like this year.
I'm not going to do this or, you know,
I'm going to start
flossing or whatever it might
be.
Right.
You know, but it's
always like a new start.
And for me, I always maybe more so.
I mean, is that how
you look at them or not?
Because I'm getting the feeling over the
last day or two that
it's just another day
to you.
It's not like, oh yeah, fresh start.
Yeah, no, it's not.
No, I don't have that
feeling of like, oh, first start.
I never did in New Year's resolution
until you're like, hey,
what's your New Year's resolution
when we were dating
or married or whatever.
I just crazy.
You have to be in the
minority there, right?
I don't know.
I have no idea.
I've got to find out from people if
that's like a minority thing.
Because I figured that the so the new is
New Year's special to you at all.
You know what?
It's I always have mixed
emotions around New Year's.
Like I always think it's kind of sad,
kind of exciting, like,
but overall, it's one of
my least favorite holidays.
Yeah.
I don't get excited about it.
Yeah.
I get excited about the
fun things that we do.
We do family game
night and stuff like that.
But I don't I'm not like, yes, a new
year, fresh start like that.
That is not my thought.
I wonder if that's I wonder if that just
has something to do
with the fact that you've
always had life
together for the most part.
You know what I mean?
Whereas other people like me, really
before I met you mostly,
but I mean, I had tough
years where it was like just trying to
figure out who I was, you
know, trying to claw myself
out of holes I dug and, you know, and
when you're in that,
sometimes it's like, okay,
I'm glad this year is done, because next
year is going to be a great year.
Because this year, like you said, this
year is one of the
toughest of your life, probably
the toughest of our life together.
But I would not say it was the toughest
of my life altogether.
Right.
You know what I mean?
It was toughest from a family standpoint.
Yeah.
You know, and things like
that and what we deal with here.
But I've had way tougher years.
Yeah.
In my in my life.
And that's why for me, it's like, I was
it kind of blew my mind
a little bit that you're
not like, yeah, it's a whole new year.
Like this year, I'm gonna
do this, I'm gonna do this.
Like most people are like, I'm
gonna get in shape this year.
I'm gonna stop drinking or
smoking or whatever this year.
Right.
And for people that are pretty happy with
themselves, it's not that way, I guess.
I mean, is that not you don't think of
ways to I mean, I'm not
suggesting you have a lot
of ways to improve.
I think you're perfect.
No, no, no, no, that's not
what you're suggesting at all.
But I just most people are like, you know
what, this is what
I'd like to I need to be
better at this.
I'm gonna do that this year.
And I know, because you said you've never
thought of a New
Year's resolution, you never
really thought of your life
that way or yourself that way.
Yeah, I don't.
And it's not that there aren't things
that I know I need to improve on.
I just don't necessarily think like, oh,
New Year, fresh start, let's do this.
Now, I am this person.
I'm gonna be the person who loves to eat
salad and workout like, I
don't know, I don't know
if I'm just more of a realist because I'm
like, whoa, that
would be a drastic change.
Like, you know, and there have been times
whatever, I'm not gonna go on that.
But I just know I've never been like,
yep, fresh start, let's
just be different now.
That's never been me.
Yeah.
Is that bad?
No, I don't.
It's you.
I'm a little shocked at it.
I'd be curious how many other people are
like that because I
mean, honestly, I'm a little
shocked at that.
For me, I always feel like I'm on a
journey of self improvement
through life at all times.
I can always be better.
What better time than January 1,
beginning of a new year
when everybody's like, it's
a new year.
You can do anything.
The world's a new place.
It doesn't be the best year of our lives.
It's always just like a good day one
starting point versus,
you know, March 8th is when
I'm gonna do it.
You know what I mean?
Like, it's like a weird, you know, but
usually there's something
that most people from my
perspective are like, you know, I could
be better at this and why not try?
This is a good time to try that.
Yeah.
And it's not that I
don't think that, right?
I just don't use the
new year as one of them.
A lot of people do.
I have no idea.
The percentage of people like me versus
the percentage of people
like you, I would imagine
there's more people.
I mean, New Year's
resolutions, that's a thing.
People talk about it.
They always say gym
memberships are the highest.
And so clearly there are so many people
that turn over that new
leaf or try to turn over
that new leaf.
I think I'm partly just jaded because I'm
like, yeah, but by
January 7th, they're not
doing it anymore.
So that new thing that you wanted to do,
like most people don't keep doing it.
Well, when I say I'm gonna start
flossing, I flossed every day since then.
So I hear you on that.
There's probably been New Year's things
that I'm like, I'm
gonna be better at this.
And then I haven't been as good as I want
to be, but I've been better overall.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
It's not like I've ever been like, this
year I'm gonna do this
every day or I'm never gonna
do this ever again.
And then on January 7th,
it was already out the door.
Right.
I just think I'm a little more
disciplined than that.
And maybe the general population isn't as
disciplined as that.
And that's where you're taking your
negativity towards that.
That was just as insightful.
Yeah.
And again, I want to reiterate, it is not
that there aren't things that I can work,
that I don't start over here.
Here are things I know I need to work on,
but I don't necessarily
look at that as January
1st.
It's like, oh, it's
finally getting through my head.
I need to be less stubborn or, oh, it's
getting through my head.
I need to respond faster on texts.
I'm terrible at texting.
I know I need to get better,
but it's not like January 1st.
I'm gonna start that.
Yeah.
And I think those are things, I think
everybody does that
throughout the year, like, oh, okay,
this is bubbled up to the surface and I'm
like having a bit of an epiphany here.
They're like, I'm bad at this.
I need to be better at this.
And if it's July 3rd,
it's not like, you know what?
That's a perfect thing for next New
Year's for me to work on.
You know what I mean?
Most people are like, yeah, I should
probably start doing that now.
Most of the things I need to work on are
like a now thing, right?
But if like, I think there's a lot of,
the way I look at it is
there's a lot of, I mean,
those are like smaller goal type things
of just, you know, just
trying to be better at
being a person.
But then I think people have like those
overall overarching ones too.
They're like, you know what?
In a perfect world, I want to be more of
this kind of person.
And for me to get to that
point, I need to be doing this.
You know what I mean?
And a lot of people like for working out,
you know, it's like,
okay, I'm gonna get through
the holidays where I'm gonna eat a ton
and it's a really good
starting point, you know,
to start January 1st, new year.
I'm gonna do that then.
I think that's why a lot of people do
that, you know, or
drinking or whatever it might
be.
They're like, I'm gonna do that on that or whatever.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
But it's like, it's a more holistic,
like, just always wanted
to be more of this kind
of a person or do this in general.
And this is a good time to do it because
it doesn't affect my life
if I didn't do it yesterday,
if I don't do it tomorrow.
Like some of the maybe smaller things
that you're talking
about are, you know, like if
you're a bad texter, it doesn't do any
good in September to wait to January.
It's like, I'm gonna
start texting people back now.
Exactly.
You know what I mean?
But if you're gonna stop
smoking, you know what I mean?
I mean, like, yeah, I mean, from a
medical standpoint, I
probably better start stop smoking
tomorrow.
Right.
But it's like, you know what?
2026 is gonna be the
year I stopped smoking.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
And maybe people do, maybe they don't.
That's so interesting.
Like, I just, I mean, that's totally, I
learned something about it here.
Because we don't do that.
It's never, it's never really a big,
like, because I've asked
you, what are your resolutions?
You never have any.
No.
And I'm always surprised because in the
back of my mind, I'm
like, oh, well, I guess she's
perfect.
No.
And that's not it at all.
It's, I think part of it is, and this
goes back to maybe what
you were saying of like,
because of your upbringing, not
necessarily upbringing, but
like, how you are, your life,
yeah, your life arc, right?
I think you feel like you have to
reinvent yourself and you're, you know.
No, that's not right.
I'm not reinventing myself ever.
I am who I am.
How do I, yeah, how do I say like, I
don't know, you are
more, you've always been more
about new starts.
Maybe when I was younger, it was a
reinvention because it was
like, I don't like who I was.
I don't like to think who I was.
Yeah.
Maybe way back then.
Now it's not like that at all.
Yeah. I mean, like, my New Year's resolution, I
keep using it four years
ago, it was like flossing.
It's not like I'm like, I
need to major life change this.
Right.
Yeah.
For me, like, okay, flossing.
I don't even know
that I had one last year.
Last year was more like, I
need to be more positive.
Yeah.
I don't think that worked.
January 7th, I think
that one stopped too.
Someone on the road cut you
off and that one went way down.
That's just two and eight.
I can't stop that.
Yeah.
Because you can't change, I
think, personality things.
Right.
But most people aren't like that.
I'm going to be, well, I guess you could
say, I'm going to be more
outgoing this year, even
though I'm an introvert.
I just need to be more, I need to try
harder at making connections with people.
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah.
Say that.
You can.
This year, I'm going to
eat a little bit better.
I'm going to start doing a, what's that?
Like a cleanse or a fast.
I'm going to fast every month, you know,
or something like that.
You know what I mean?
Like, those are good times to reinvent
that part of yourself.
It's like, it's going
to make me healthier.
Yeah.
I'm holding myself to something.
I've got a start date.
People like start dates
for those kind of things.
Yeah.
So anyways, we're kind of beating the
dead horse here, I
think, to some degree, but I'm
shocked at that.
I'm sure we'll talk about that more after
or off of this
because it's shocking to me.
And maybe you hit the nail on the head,
or we both did here,
where it's more of an issue
of just our life arcs.
Like, you've just been happy with the
person that you are and
you don't really need to
"reinvent" or add this and the little
tweaks that you need to make to yourself.
Like you just do it during the year.
Which I would be so interested to hear
how many people are like
that versus people like
me who are like, "Hey, I even like it in
the office because I
get to take all, because
I file all the bills."
All 12 months are in there, and at the
end of the year, they
all get stapled together.
I pull them all out, all the gas bills,
electricity bills, cell
phones, all those, they all get
put in a folder and we hold on to them
for three years
because that's maybe what the
tax man wants.
And I get rid of the other three-year one
upstairs, it cycles
out and it gets recycled.
I love the cleaning
and that part of it too.
That's like cleansing for you.
I love it.
That is a personality thing for me.
It is, yeah.
You are a hyper-organized
person and you like the process.
Not only do you need things organized,
you like the process of organization.
That out with the old, in with the new.
And I think that's part of that
personality trait is one
reason why you gravitate toward
New Year's resolutions.
I, for better or for worse, probably for
worse, am not like that
when it comes to like, "Oh
sweet, I get to clean out my office.
I get to throw this away.
This is from an old year."
No.
I, no.
Yeah, you're just...
I just...
I'm the steady Eddie.
You're the steady Eddie. I'm the steady Eddie, right?
I'm just like floating along.
Yeah.
That's...
So good.
That almost innately bothers me.
It's weird.
I'm sure people are
reading through this right now.
That almost innately bothers me that
someone isn't looking for
that self-improvement on
a consistent basis.
That you could be that happy with who you
are and how you are,
mentally, physically,
everything.
You know what I mean?
That...
And it's not a resolution, because I'm
not like, "Here's my
resolution this year, everybody."
I'm not big on resolutions.
I don't care about that, but a new year
is always a good
starting point to like, "Hey,
last year was a tough...
I'm usually pretty
good about working out.
Last year it fell off for a
million different reasons.
It started strong and then kind of fell
off at summer for
whatever reason, but it's always
like, "I just need to
be better about that.
I'm going to try to make
it through a whole year."
It's almost like daring yourself or
setting a challenge for
yourself to be better.
Yeah.
And that's just...
My life arc has always provided me
opportunities to improve.
And I'm just shocked that there's others
that don't view it that way.
I mean, it's innately
bothering me right now.
Uh-oh.
I didn't mean to do that.
No, I know.
That's crazy though.
So anyways, wow.
Wow.
Well, I'm sorry.
I told you, I got a
good question for you.
We'll see how that goes.
Well, that went.
That was the question.
There it is.
That was the big one.
I feel like I didn't answer it correctly,
although I answered it honestly.
No, there's no right or wrong on that.
You know, I mean, like...
I would be curious if there's a
psychologist sitting here and
how they would explore that.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
That part of it.
Because we've talked through things, and
now this is a little bit
of pivot, but as a couple,
you have to be able to talk about things
that are like, "Hey,
here's something that...
If you could do this
differently, it'd be better."
We've been honest with
each other on that one.
I have to drag it out
of you a lot of the time.
So I'm like, "Tell me."
You know what I mean?
I'm a dumb male.
Like, sometimes you have to hit me over
the head, you know, and just tell me.
And then I'll do it 100%.
And me being the way that I am, I'm
fairly open, you know,
emotions on the sleeve.
I usually tell you, like,
"Hey, here's what I need."
You know, like, "This is
the way this is coming across.
This is how this is."
So, I mean, I'm rambling here a bit, and
I'm talking too much.
But the long and the short of it there
feel, to me, is like,
generally when we have some
of those conversations, you don't like to
hear that there are ways to improve.
Like, there is a lot of
pushback there at times.
And so this is just kind of a bigger
window into that, like,
"Oh, now I understand even
more so why."
Anytime there ever is, like, "Hey, if you
could maybe, you know, do this."
And like, where I'm always like the
opposite way, like, "I'm an idiot.
Like, you know, like, if
I mess up, just tell me.
I will change it."
You know what I mean?
Like, I'm okay not being perfect.
And I think this is where that
psychologist thing comes in.
You have to be perfect.
And this is what I'm saying.
I really don't have to
dive into this at all.
But when I tell you there's
ways, you don't like that.
That means you're not
doing everything perfect.
And I'm not suggesting
you think you're perfect.
I know you're doing it.
That's not your personality.
But the little girl
inside you needs that.
Does that make sense?
Yeah, yeah.
I think there's, you know, in going, "I
am a perfectionist, 100%."
Like, if I could be perfect, I would pick that, you know, as like my wish, right?
And I know I'm not.
But I don't know if this goes back to
like when I was, I
don't know what it was, you
know, like early
dating and stuff like that.
I always read like, "You can't change
people, so don't even try.
Just accept them for
who they are," you know?
And so I've always
been like, "You know what?
Whoever you are, that's fantastic.
You don't need to hear from me.
You know better than I do what you need to work on."
You know, so that's always my kind of philosophy. And I think that's what I'm saying. I do what you need to work on.
You know, so that's always my kind of
philosophy, only because I
know exactly what I need to
work on, you know?
And so it's like, you're usually not
telling me something
that I don't know already.
But do you think most
people are that self-aware?
I mean, I guess maybe you are more
self-aware than a lot of people are.
If you know exactly everything you need
to work on, that's very self-aware.
Well, I don't know
everything I need to work on.
That's what you just said, though.
Well, I know many of the
things I need to work on.
Okay, okay.
I mean, that's a different thing.
I do.
I'm like, if you tell me I'm stubborn,
and I know that, thanks.
I am aware of that, you know?
So I think that's part of it, of like,
"Oh, I know where I am not.
I am not even good, let alone perfect."
You know?
That's not true at all.
Now I feel like you're backpedaling here,
and I'm not trying to come down on you at
all here.
That was just an open door, and we can
cut as much of this as
we need to, because it's
kind of a real conversation here.
And I'm not trying to put you under it.
You can put me under it.
We can swap it and put me under the
microscope somehow here,
too, because there's lots of
ways to do that as well.
But I mean, even like you just said, I'm
well aware that I'm
stubborn, as though it's something
you would...a bad trait, right?
And most people are like, "Well, if I
have a bad trait, I think
I'd like to improve that."
You know what I mean?
But the way you're saying it now, to me,
the way I'm hearing it,
the way it's coming across,
is just the way I am.
People don't change.
I mean, like, I understand that.
Thank you for telling me
that, but I already know that.
There's nothing in there of like, "Gosh
dang, I've got to
get...I've got to change that.
It's my worst trait.
I've got to get over it.
I've got to work through that somehow,"
which is how I would
approach...if someone were
to tell me something like that, that's
how I would approach it.
That's how I can change it fully, but I
can sure work on it.
Right, right.
And I'm not saying that either.
It's not that...just because I know that
something is...like I have
a bad trait, that I don't
try to work on it.
That's not what I'm saying at all.
I know I need to work on it.
It may never be perfect.
It may never even be good, but it's
something that's on my mind to work on.
And if you have a trait like that,
oftentimes I'm like, "You
know better than I do what
you need to work on."
And so I don't feel the need to mention
it most of the time.
Yeah, but sometimes to me, and that's
where we're different, that's okay.
But if I'm continuously doing something,
you should be like,
"Hey, Sean, apparently you
should know this better than me."
But you're not
improving on whatever that is.
You know what I mean?
Which is kind of the offhand, but it's
true to you because we've
had lots of conversations
with situations that are uncomfortable.
You lay down, right?
Because there's a long time we talked
about you being the doormat.
You know what I mean?
Like not standing up.
I dislike conflict.
I can't stand it.
And I'll never be good at it.
But it's something
that I have to deal with.
But that's even the lowest level of
conflict, like with a
spouse that you've known for two
decades plus.
Be like, "Hey, you are not
getting better at this, Sean.
You've got to get better at that."
You know what I mean?
Like you should be able to say that.
That's just such an interesting look into
you from my perspective.
Because that's one of the things we've...
That's one of the things in our
relationship, one of the few things that
we've ever struggled
with is standing up
for us and our family.
You want to get to people that are
outside of our family,
whether it's other family,
whether it's friends,
whether whatever it is.
Standing up.
That's really tough for you to do.
Oh, it's terrible.
And again, it's not something that comes
natural to me at all.
That is something that, again, the
conflict resolution is one
of those things where it's
like, "I'm not going to be like, "Today
I'm going to get better
at conflict resolution."
And that wouldn't necessarily be a...
Because that would mean you have to
incite conflict, I think, to...
No, but it would be like, "This year I'm
just going to try better
to stand up for myself."
It's not like I'm
going to go search it up.
But if it comes up, "This
year I'm going to try to stand...
I'm going to try to...
I don't want to say this enough.
That would have been, what is it called?
Passive aggressive.
I'm going to try to grow a backbone.
So that's what I was going to say.
And that's one of the
things I struggle with, right?
I didn't realize I was passive aggressive
until I was told I was.
I'm like, "Okay, I win."
And then I kind of
tried to unpack why that is.
And I kind of now understand
why I'm passive aggressive.
And I try to work...
I do try to work on it.
And now, one out of 10
times, I hear myself say it.
Not enough, obviously.
One out of 10 is terrible.
But that's my point though.
Your point would be, and same with me if
I was going to say
that, "I'm going to try
this year not to be passive aggressive.
Maybe that would be my New Year's
resolution for this year.
I'm going to try to do away
with passive aggressiveness."
And on a self-improvement journey, to me,
that's like, "Okay,
well, if I improve that
10% this year, that
makes me a better person.
So why not try?"
You know what I mean?
Why not try?
Because that makes your life better.
That makes our kids' life better.
It was our friends and family's lives
better if I incrementally
just try to better myself.
You know what I mean?
And that's the life arc that I'm on.
And so that's where I come up with that.
Wow.
What?
Wow.
Really, really here on...
Bombshell.
On KIKX102.7.
What is the one?
KIKX. What is the one?
On Love Actually.
He's like, "Oh."
Oh, I don't know that line specifically.
Where he says
something bad about Billy Mack.
Oh, and he goes, "Oh, wow."
And he's like, "Coincidentally, Billy
Mack's in the... whatever."
It's the worst Christmas song.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, no, maybe it was when he's like, "Oh,
can I be honest with you?"
And he's like, "Oh, please do.
That doesn't happen very often.
You're on...
You're right.
It was like, "Yeah.
KIKX."
Yeah.
So I just threw it in my old hometown,
which I know by heart.
This is KIKX.
KIKX102.7.
Wow.
KIKX.
101.3 KDWB.
Yeah.
That's a lot of K-B.
K-D.
K-D-W-B.
Yeah.
Oh, so it's only for KIKX, yeah.
Yeah.
You get a lot more syllables than yours.
syllables.
I had a lot of syllables, yeah.
101.3 KDWB.
Interesting.
Well, let's pivot a little bit on that
one, and we can cut as
much of that out as you
want to, because I know we got kind of
real in that a little bit.
Yeah.
I don't want to feel like it was on you
too much there, because
we could have turned that
on me.
And I don't want to, I mean, we don't
even dive into it, but
we could have turned it
on me.
I mean, there's lots of ... We all have
little kids inside of us.
Yeah.
When we talk about it, we can't believe
that we're in our mid to
late 40s, because we still
feel like kids.
We still feel like we're in our 20s.
Yeah.
But ultimately, we are kids
that are just kind of grown up.
It's true.
We've built these defenses, and we've
built a lot of things
over time around just that
delicate, innocent little kid, right?
We've built careers about it.
We've built education around it.
We beat social norms around it.
So we've built up just all this stuff,
but if you just knock
all that down to get into
the center of it, we're just
still just those little kids.
I wasn't trying to pick on you at all in
there, but you're
wanting to be perfect is
kind of in the middle
of yours to some degree.
Maybe, might be in there.
And I'm not even trying to ... But in the
middle of mine,
there's a lot of things that
I've struggled with too that ultimately
manifest themselves in
our everyday lives, even as
adults.
Yeah.
Right?
Like embarrassment or feeling adequate.
Or feeling ... I don't want to say that.
I want to say love's not the word, but
appreciated, feeling adequate with the
people that ... That's
mine because the second ... It even
happened earlier today at some point.
I just feel like maybe it wasn't today,
but if I don't feel
that sense of like, "Oh my
gosh, I feel right now like I'm not
needed or appreciated
or something like that."
I mean, it's one of those things that
take ... It's like embarrassment.
It takes you straight
back to that little kid.
Oh yeah.
You know what I mean?
And I know a lot of the things, a lot of
my negative qualities
were not coming from that.
That's one of its deepest roots.
So I wasn't trying to pick on you at all.
I'm willing to put
myself out there for that too.
Yeah.
Well, and I think most of our negative
traits or qualities in
general come from that child.
Yeah.
Like whoever we were as a
child, it comes from that.
And it's just everyone
was a little bit different.
Some of it truly is personality, but then
you compound that and your nurture around
you either helps diffuse that or it
augments that bad thing.
It's always a balance
of nature versus nurture.
Nature usually gives it to you and then
depends on how that was nurtured.
To your point, better, for the better,
for the worse, potentially.
Totally true.
And it's so interesting just to see that.
That's why I love that we ... I don't
know if we'll keep it in
or not, but I love that
for the first time in 48 episodes, this
was one of our most real
ones of like, we're little
kids inside.
I know everybody, we all try to peacock.
Oh totally.
You know what I mean?
I love that term by the way.
Yeah, it's the best term.
Everybody peacocks, shows their feathers,
puts their best foot forward.
That's what Facebook's all about.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
And that's why when you have a best
friend or a best friend
or a great spouse and good
marriage, when you're exposed to those
things and you know that
you can put those feathers
down and put those feathers away and as
ugly as you might be or
as simple as behind those
feathers, maybe that's
where that little kid is.
It's not perfect.
That's a work.
For me at least, it's
always a work in progress.
I'm not a horrible person.
I don't have major blind spots, but I can
definitely still improve on things.
You know what I mean?
It's just interesting when people start
peeling back those layers
and being more real about
what we are.
For me, it's just that next step.
Okay, what are we going
to do to improve that?
You know what I mean?
That's why I was so surprised because
with you it's almost
like, "You know what?
It is what it is.
Why even try to change it?"
Because people are who they are.
Why try?
That's what I heard you say and that's
why innately for me,
that bothers me because it's
like I'm constantly
looking at all that you talk.
Yeah, no.
I was going to say that's actually not
... If that's how it came out, I'm sorry.
That's not actually what I meant.
It was more or less around ... It's like
I have a lot of things to work on myself.
Who am I to tell you
what you need to work on?
Part of that is just like, "Hey, I can't
get frustrated with you
because ..." We'll bring
up a real example today when you were
really busy and you're
moving around the house quickly
to get all your things
done and all your to-do.
Usually that's me doing that
because I'm ... I don't know.
I'm always kind of manic.
I don't know.
It's like I'm not ... I wasn't going to
say anything to you
about it because I was like,
"That's something I need to work on."
It wasn't until you were
like, "What's going on?
Are you okay?
You seem stressed.
What's happening?"
You start asking
questions that I said anything.
I had no intention of doing it because I
was like, "It's
something I struggle with.
How can I tell you to not do it when it's
still something I
struggle with and I need
to get better at?
Who am I to critique you on that?"
That a lot of times
is my thought process.
Yeah.
Well, first of all, how dare you say
something a bit negative about me?
I'm just kidding.
No, totally fair point there.
I would just suggest that there's a
handful of people that you
have the right to say that
to in life.
We're not going to go to the soccer field
and say that to people.
No.
We're not going to stand out in the
street and be like, "Excuse me."
Sense of fashion is way off.
That is not working.
As fun as it would be to go to the mall
and just rip everybody
apart, that's not the
suggestion here.
There's 10 people in a life that your
life touches close
enough that you should be able
to say that to.
I'm one of them.
Our kids are some of them and your direct
family is some of them.
If you can't have a real conversation
with those people, how
real is that relationship?
That's my feel.
I get it.
Now, again, that's deep because you were
raised a certain way that
... What's that one ... They
made a movie about it where everybody's
perfect on the street.
Oh, oh, oh.
Stepford wives or whatever.
Yeah.
It's a little bit like the Stepford
wives, but the Stepford
children, the Stepford child.
This isn't me getting into your
upbringing and pointing any
fingers there, but I'm just
saying the outcome there is you were not
raised in a way that
that was normal to say like,
"This is ... " That you could open up in
that kind of a way
because you don't do it
now and you still won't do it with them.
You didn't do it then, you won't do it
now and you're even applying that to me.
Now, on the other hand, I was so far the
other way that I was
brought up in a different way
where we did voice issues and opinions
and now I've had to
adjust as an adult what the
appropriate manner to do that is because
sometimes I can over share
that or share it in a way
that's not as respectful as it should be
or as not respectful as the wrong word.
It's not as delicate as it should be.
What do you mean?
But that to your point, both of them are
things that we should be
able to do, I think in a
healthy relationship, but because of that
nature versus nurture
thing, both of us have
come to this point in time, able to do
that or unable to do
that in our own ways because
of that life arc that
has got us to this point.
Whether that's right or wrong, that's
where we're at and
that's where I get back to the
resolution thing where it's like if we
understand those things,
well, maybe January 1st is just
an arbitrary day to say, "You know what?
I'm going to be better about just being a
little bit more open
or I'm not going to be
passive aggressive or I'll try not to be
manic and bleed out
everybody else the stress
that I'm feeling."
Maybe January 4th is a good day to do it.
That was an interesting
conversation if nothing else.
I feel like I've offended you.
I can just see it in your face.
You're like, "You look like
a deer in the headlights."
I feel like I've let you down.
I'm surprised that this
is a revelation to you.
We've been together for almost 21 years
and I've done three
resolutions, one of which
was flossing and I've only missed a
handful of days in the
last year since I made the
resolution.
It's not like it's big things, but it's
not the resolution thing.
It's more or less just always on a
constant growth of
becoming a better person.
I'm not suggesting you're not wanting to
become a better person.
I'm not suggesting you think you're
perfect already or whatnot.
The puzzle pieces are falling together a
little bit more for me to
see a clearer picture of
why some of the things that we've
discussed throughout our entire
relationship have been
slow moving.
I'm trying to be delicate on how to say
certain things that I'm
not trying to be offensive
in anything, but I think it just painted
a fuller picture for me
today, which is interesting.
Not that I didn't know those things, but
it painted a ... I think
it was more of an epiphany
to me of like, "Oh, that's interesting."
It's a little bit more
why this or why that.
I think it's what I've come to find in
this conversation is I
think it's a lot deeper
of a conversation that has to be had to
get to those real
moments of self-improvement
discussions with you.
You know what I mean?
That comes from much,
much deeper space in you.
That's way behind the feathers.
That gets close to the little Megan,
whereas self-improvement
for me is not as close to
little Sean as other topics might be.
I think that's where my epiphany was.
Interesting.
That makes sense.
Yeah, I think so.
I don't know.
I am super curious though.
Who was more like you versus
me on the resolution thing?
I am curious to be
like ... Oh, out there?
Out there in general.
I'm going to have to do
some scouting on the ...
Well, just be open on it.
I'm not a huge resolution guy.
I just like the beginning of New Year.
It's always a new fresh start.
It just feels that way.
I just try to be a
better person this year.
It's never like, "Here's my list of New
Year's resolutions and
I'm going to do every one
of them."
I've never liked that.
It's just like, it's a fresh start.
It's a new year.
The opportunities are
endless to some degree.
I'm not trying to be naive about that.
You know what I mean?
It's just like, it's going to be ... Why
can't this be the
best year is how I feel.
Whereas I think you're just steady Eddie.
We just turned another date.
It's no big deal.
It's a new calendar.
Steady Eddie.
No, this could be the
best year of our lives.
That's a different way to look at it.
I'm like, "Let's just hope
it's better than last year."
Well, coming off last
year, it's got to be.
We've had a couple of years in there
where you're like, "Oh,
that was a rough year.
Oh, that one was a great year."
Sometimes you do have those where you
look back and you're
like, "That one, 2015."
I don't know if 2015 was a great year.
It's like, you do have those, some that
are awesome and some that are ...
Yeah, but as you look back at your life,
you're like, "Oh,
those good and bad years."
Absolutely.
It's just a frame of
reference of like, "You know what?
Hopefully this will be a great year."
You know what I mean?
If you want to, we
could go to a calendar year.
Instead of a calendar year, we could do a
fiscal year in for you
if that made you feel
better.
April 1st, April Fool's Day.
That feels very apropos.
Oh my gosh.
In that year for us,
it would be incredible.
It would be amazing.
It's a fiscal year, not a calendar year.
It's a fiscal year. Oh my gosh.
We have people watching this
going, "What is a fiscal year?"
No, they don't.
We have a smart audience.
A lot of finance people out there.
What is a fiscal year?
That's right.
We're a fiscal year.
Doing fiscal New Year's resolutions.
That would be hilarious.
I think mine's more of just that
continuous journey, whether
it's on 1-1 or whether it's
on 8-6.
I picked a random date.
I don't know that it is
even after this discussion.
I think you're just kind of, "You are
what you are," is how
it kind of came to me.
Yeah, no.
That's not how I see it at all.
It really is just getting better every
day, better than I was yesterday.
I think that's more my mentality.
Life hands me things as it does everybody
that naturally helps
me work on things that
I'm not very good at.
You don't believe me at all.
I don't know what to say to it.
Let's stop recording and we
can continue the conversation.
This is interesting.
We're starting to get
long, so let's wrap.
Got it.
Unless you wanted to say something else.
No.
You sure?
Yeah, I think I've dug myself quite the
hole here, so I don't
know that I can say anything
else.
We don't have flashing lights or anything
this time, so we're
going to have to re-record
another one.
We'll put this one on ice.
We'll put the other one out.
We'll put the other one out
when we're sitting in Sadie.
Yeah.
Well, then should we think of a word to
sum up with the last week?
Yeah.
We should.
Pressure.
All right, ready?
Yeah.
One, two, three.
Prepare.
There you go.
Oh, I love yours.
Okay, you have to
explain why we picked Lego.
Well, we did a lot of Legos.
I was going to say I had two, but your
prepare is really where mine was.
This is like we had fun doing Legos.
We had fun over the holidays.
Over New Year's was great relaxation.
It went fast.
Always.
All that was fun, but beneath that
surface, that pressure
that I was talking about, it's
been building.
Mm-hmm.
And come next week, I mean, we're back on
it, you know, because
that's the thing with
vacations, right?
They're fantastic.
I'm back.
Back to reality.
I know.
We should just retire.
Let's just do that.
We're announcing here.
Yeah.
Got an announcement to make.
Mm.
Yeah.
That goes to the string pillars.
The lines.
Yeah.
Exactly right.
No, because even though we, I mean, we do
fun things, but it's
still a very relaxing
time, right?
We do Legos.
Like, for me, that's super
relaxing to do Legos, puzzles.
It's all that same thing, right?
But I need that time to prepare for just
running at a full-out
sprint for the next, you know,
five, six months.
Yeah.
And so not only is it like the new year
and preparing, it's that,
okay, I need to mentally,
like, recharge my battery so that I'm
ready to go for the next however long.
I don't think you got it this time.
I don't feel like you, I
don't feel like you let it down.
We can't get too into that.
We're so long as it is, but I don't, I
don't feel like you had
that let down this time.
Like that decompression.
Oh, I think I did.
Did you?
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
So I'm pretty sure I did.
I'm pretty sure I did.
You'll check in with yourself later.
I'll ask myself later.
Oh no.
I was sleeping till like
eight, eight 30 in the morning.
Like, no, I think I'm okay.
We're good.
I think I'm nice and chill.
Good, good, good.
So yeah.
Awesome.
Well, wrap it up.
We will wrap it up.
You want to sign off?
You can sign off.
You're a better sign off.
I really, I don't have a sign off.
That's I was going to
wait and see what you did.
Well I have to stick with my chow chow.
I know, but we knew I don't have like a,
we'll see on the flip
side and until then, chow
and I say, see it, right?
We'll see on the flip side.
Yeah.
We don't have a, that's the sign off.
I'm talking about that.
We don't have that.
We don't have.
Yeah.
And have it.
Never.
Yeah.
It's kind of our calling card.
It's just really bad.
There's just like, you should have, you
had just beaters out.
Or we just go to the striped colors.
All right.
I think that's it.
All right.
Let's see.
Yeah.
All right.