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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to The Bible Guys, a podcast where a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun in

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<v Speaker 1>practical ways. Hey, everybody, Welcome to the Bible guys. And

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<v Speaker 1>happy Friday.

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<v Speaker 2>Here we are.

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<v Speaker 1>I said happy Thursday before I know, but it's even

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<v Speaker 1>happier because Fridays are always happy. Let's be honest, Fridays

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<v Speaker 1>are sort of better.

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<v Speaker 2>Always happy. Yes, tgif Friday, Friday, Friday, that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>And today we are wrapping up this week about prayers

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<v Speaker 1>of intercessory. They're actually in the middle of our sort

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<v Speaker 1>of bigger series, which is Dangerous Prayers and prayers of

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<v Speaker 1>intercession have just been the theme this week. So anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>before we get to that, we have a segment that

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<v Speaker 1>is actually it's actually called the Praise Report with a twist.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh and it says this desirata, each of you will

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<v Speaker 1>share something you're grateful for. This is a good one,

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<v Speaker 1>but you must describe it like it's a dramatic movie trailer.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>So I went to chat GPT for mine. Yeah, and yeah, okay, good,

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<v Speaker 1>do you want to go first? No?

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<v Speaker 2>You should you go first? You go first?

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<v Speaker 1>So I told chat GPT, Well, should I just read.

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<v Speaker 2>It read what you told chat GPT, No, or should

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<v Speaker 2>I just read the trailer? Read the trailer and then

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<v Speaker 2>tell them what you told me?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, here we go. Ready, Yeah, you'll be able to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out what I'm paying for really quick.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, here we go.

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<v Speaker 1>In a world filled with uncertainty, chaos, and cheap, scratchy

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<v Speaker 1>sandpaper disguise this toilet paper, one man dares to hope

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<v Speaker 1>for more, and then it happens. You walk in and

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<v Speaker 1>it's there, soft, strong quality, like wiping with the embrace

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<v Speaker 1>of an angel. Because when a company cares enough to

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<v Speaker 1>give you this kind of comfort in a public restroom,

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<v Speaker 1>just imagine the kind of excellence they bring to everything

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<v Speaker 1>else they do.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, this is gratitude.

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<v Speaker 1>This is luxury, This is hope softness.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so good, good, TP. That's what you're that's what

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<v Speaker 2>you're in a public place, in a public place. That's okay,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the little things, Chris, Yeah, it's just a little thing. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that's what you're grateful for. You could no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a thing I'm grateful for. Okay, that's not the thing. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>it just said type in something you're gr grateful for. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I chose something small. Yeah, so what did you type

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<v Speaker 2>in and tell it that you wanted it to help

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<v Speaker 2>you with?

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<v Speaker 1>This is what I said, Write me a ninety Write

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<v Speaker 1>me a ninety second dramatic trailer about something I'm grateful for.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing I'm grateful for is when I walk into

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<v Speaker 1>a public restroom and there's a soft, quality, expensive toilet paper,

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<v Speaker 1>because there's nothing worse than cheap toilet paper that feels

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<v Speaker 1>like sandpaper. Include the fact that providing this kind of

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<v Speaker 1>care must mean that whatever product they are selling must

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<v Speaker 1>also be great.

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<v Speaker 2>You you worked hard on that one.

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<v Speaker 1>I did, but I wanted to be specific.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Wow, now I feel kind of corny about mine.

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<v Speaker 2>Not corny because there's a serious and lovey yes. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>thanks you for a wife. Yes I am, But that's

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<v Speaker 2>not what I wrote. Okay, this says deep booming voice,

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<v Speaker 2>slow build with swelling Strings's that's the if you have

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<v Speaker 2>a soundtrack in your head. In a world where small

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<v Speaker 2>town kids may not make it very far, one young

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<v Speaker 2>man discovers that God's plan is bigger than his wildest dreams.

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<v Speaker 2>Blessed with a family, entrusted with a ministry, and carried

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<v Speaker 2>by a grace he never earned this fall. He realizes

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<v Speaker 2>the truth. It was never about me, It was always

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<v Speaker 2>about him.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, so wow that's a that's an big

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<v Speaker 1>encompassing thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I just wrote I'm grateful for God's provision for

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<v Speaker 2>me and my family, and I'm grateful for his incredible

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<v Speaker 2>blessings on the ministries he's given me. I'm just a

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<v Speaker 2>small coound kid that can't figure out how I got

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<v Speaker 2>here from there. Okay, right there you go?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right, so yeah, yours was the opposite of mine.

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<v Speaker 1>I went, fun, yeah, and you went but yeah, he

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<v Speaker 1>is a big deal to Chris. If you don't know

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<v Speaker 1>one of his top five most important things in life, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I got to tell you there are times where my wife.

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<v Speaker 1>Every once in a while, my wife will stray and

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<v Speaker 1>she'll say, oh, just buy this, and I rebel.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, it's got to be. It's got to be

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<v Speaker 1>Sharman altra.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>Sharman ultra is the thing in my home.

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<v Speaker 2>So Chris is, uh, you are very aware of comfort,

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<v Speaker 2>very aware, very aware, very aware of comfort, temperature, humidity,

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<v Speaker 2>the comfort of your seats, the tpe, the clothes you wear, scratchy,

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<v Speaker 2>are you wet?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Right, all those things so comfort is a very very

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<v Speaker 2>high value thing. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, I never I never really I thought

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<v Speaker 1>I've really put in those terms before. But yeah, all

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<v Speaker 1>of that is comfortable, all of it, even being wet.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, it's it's just your thing. It's uh, Chad

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<v Speaker 2>asmin our executive pastor and I'll we'll talk about that

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<v Speaker 2>right that. Hey, we want to make sure this is

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<v Speaker 2>comfortable for Chris. Yeah, for real, because this big deal

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<v Speaker 2>for you. We want you to be comfortable and happy. So,

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<v Speaker 2>like I just the fact that I don't think about

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<v Speaker 2>that very much, The fact.

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<v Speaker 1>That you even consider that is what a great jama's slippers,

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<v Speaker 1>What a great thing that you even carelanket on your couch.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't believe you think that you even care.

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<v Speaker 2>We do.

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<v Speaker 1>I care.

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<v Speaker 2>We want you to be comfortable, man, Gray figure you

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<v Speaker 2>know what, hey, this is what this is what good

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<v Speaker 2>trainers do with race horses. Make sure they're comfortable. So

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<v Speaker 2>when it's time they hit the track, they run hard

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<v Speaker 2>and I figure, you got a good horse ride, so

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<v Speaker 2>keep you comfortable on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah right, Yeah, all we have to do is make

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<v Speaker 1>them comfortable it's really not that hard, that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, comfort is a thing. So good for you. Man,

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<v Speaker 2>that was really a good one. I thought you you

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<v Speaker 2>read it well, yeah, thank you you, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it was it was ridiculous. It was like, this

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<v Speaker 1>is hope.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, this is hope. It's so fun. It doesn't take well,

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<v Speaker 2>it's easy to lose hope when you're not come.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, if that's a high value for you. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well. And I've and I've always Chad's dreading what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>He's he's hoping. I'm not going to say this, but

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<v Speaker 1>I always poke fun of him at the deal that

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<v Speaker 1>he made with Heritage toilet paper oh at Church. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because because it's a it's a deal. It's a company

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<v Speaker 1>that says, hey, if you.

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<v Speaker 2>Buy all of our products, yeah, yeah, you get a

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<v Speaker 2>really good deal.

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<v Speaker 1>You get a good discount.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's not Shriman Ultra.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's a far cry. If you have sandpaper on

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<v Speaker 1>one end and you have Sharman Alter on the other end,

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<v Speaker 1>it's sort of like over fifty percent this way, it's

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<v Speaker 1>past the fifty percent mark towards the sandpaper.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, and I'm just like, I'm like, so if

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<v Speaker 2>we have any listeners left right right after riveting secon

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<v Speaker 2>we're only six minutes and forty nine years. Yeah, after

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<v Speaker 2>this riveting segment, maybe maybe what you need to do

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<v Speaker 2>is pray about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, pray about the twelve favorite Yeah yeah, yeah, which

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<v Speaker 1>funny enough.

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus taught us to pray.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that is funny. Yeah, But in the prayer

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<v Speaker 1>he gave a terrible transition.

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<v Speaker 2>In the prayer rile okayful, So here you go. In

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<v Speaker 2>Matthew chapter six, verse five, it says, when you pray,

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<v Speaker 2>don't be like the hypocrites who love to pray publicly

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<v Speaker 2>on street corners and in the synagogues where everyone can

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<v Speaker 2>see them. I tell you the truth. That is all

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<v Speaker 2>the reward they will ever get. But when you pray,

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<v Speaker 2>let me say again, but when you pray, go away

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<v Speaker 2>by yourself, shut the door behind you, and pray to

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<v Speaker 2>your father in private. And then your father, who sees everything,

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<v Speaker 2>will will reward you when you pray. Don't babbel and

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<v Speaker 2>on as the gentiles do. They think their prayers are

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<v Speaker 2>answered merely by repeating their words again and again. Don't

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<v Speaker 2>be like them, for your father knows exactly what you need,

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<v Speaker 2>even before you ask him, pray like this, our father

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<v Speaker 2>in heaven, may your name be kept holy. May your

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<v Speaker 2>kingdom come soon, May or will be done on earth

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<v Speaker 2>as it is in heaven. Give us today the food

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<v Speaker 2>we need, and forgive us our sins, as we have

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<v Speaker 2>forgiven those who sin against us. And don't let us

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<v Speaker 2>yield the temptation, but rescue us from the evil one.

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<v Speaker 2>If you forgive those who sin against you, your heavenly

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<v Speaker 2>father will forgive you. But if you refuse to forgive others,

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<v Speaker 2>your father will not forgive your sins. Well there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, there it is. And so this is an intercessory

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<v Speaker 1>prayer because really it is praying on behalf of others

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<v Speaker 1>because the language is us, right, So it's not just me,

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<v Speaker 1>it's us. It's almost as if your prayer.

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<v Speaker 2>Give us today, forgive us our sins. Yeah, let us.

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<v Speaker 1>Either this is a prayer praying for a family unit

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<v Speaker 1>a nation.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, but either way, so it can be a personal prayer,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's written as a collective prayer it is, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it definitely falls into the intercestor category.

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<v Speaker 2>So this happens in Matthew chapter six. So Matthew five, six,

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<v Speaker 2>and seven are what we call the Sermon on the Mount,

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<v Speaker 2>which we referenced earlier this week in one of the

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<v Speaker 2>games we played, and in the Sermon on the Mount,

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<v Speaker 2>this is where Jesus teaches us. This is the longest

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<v Speaker 2>message he preaches in the Bible, and this is where

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<v Speaker 2>he teaches us almost all the things that have made

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<v Speaker 2>it into mainstream society that we know. Jesus said, turn

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<v Speaker 2>the other cheek, go the extra mile. Judge, not that

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<v Speaker 2>you be not judged. He taught us the golden rule,

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<v Speaker 2>treat people the way you want to be treated.

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<v Speaker 1>Truth is such, you're free. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>There's so many things in here that we know that

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<v Speaker 2>have kind of made it into pop culture. Jesus taught

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<v Speaker 2>us these things here, and then he teaches us to pray.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's interesting this prayer thing is in the middle

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<v Speaker 2>of three big things that he's kind of referencing. Is

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<v Speaker 2>my followers, do these things. He says, when you give

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<v Speaker 2>in verse two to someone in need, don't do his hypocrits,

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<v Speaker 2>off with your big, fancy words. Instead, this is a

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<v Speaker 2>private thing between you and God. And then in verse sixteen,

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<v Speaker 2>he says when you fast. So there's this expectation Jesus

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<v Speaker 2>has that his followers are going to be generous to others.

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<v Speaker 2>They're going to pray to God, They're going to fast

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<v Speaker 2>on behalf of their own situations and the needs of others. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>those three things, they're kind of an expectation. He doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>say if you pray, or if you give, or if

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<v Speaker 2>you fast. He says, when you do these things. And

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<v Speaker 2>so there's kind of this understanding that there are certain behaviors,

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<v Speaker 2>be doing. And this is one of the expectations.

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<v Speaker 1>Which is the series that we're in. Yes, old school

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<v Speaker 2>So then prayer should be a habit is kind of

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<v Speaker 2>where I was going with that, Right, this is one

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<v Speaker 2>And so he's not saying don't ever pray out loud

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<v Speaker 2>in front of other people. You know, when you read

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<v Speaker 1>You're talking about the motivation.

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<v Speaker 2>He's talking about motivation, right, because the Pharisees and some

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<v Speaker 2>of the hypocrites they loved just getting everybody's prayer, the

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<v Speaker 2>big prayers, use the big words, deep voice, public humility

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<v Speaker 2>and all that kind of stuff, and then Jesus just

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<v Speaker 1>That's and by the way, that's the again, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>reason why my mind goes toward not giving the Pharisees credit,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's like they just they were just all about

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<v Speaker 1>not necessarily the heart of what's honest and real, Like

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<v Speaker 1>the prayer didn't matter as much as the glory.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So anyway, does that does that? It doesn't say

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<v Speaker 2>Pharisees are just as hypocrites are wrecked.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think another version says pharisees another translations, another

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<v Speaker 1>gospel saystem yeah, look it up, because that'd be an

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<v Speaker 1>interesting tidbit. But anyway, I love how he says, don't pontificate, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>don't don't use big words and just ramble on, and

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<v Speaker 1>then he says don't use the words again and again.

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<v Speaker 1>In other words, what he's saying, is repetition ain't going

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<v Speaker 1>So, and by the way, it's a little ironic because

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<v Speaker 1>then he lays out the Lord's prayer that's commonly known

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<v Speaker 1>ten our fathers, right, and so, which is repetition? And

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<v Speaker 1>yet it comes just a few verses after him saying

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<v Speaker 1>repetition is not going to get you anywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>And then interesting, and by the way, you don't have

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<v Speaker 2>to keep saying the same thing over and over and over, right, right, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So please forgive me God, Please forgive me God. Please.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's and by the.

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<v Speaker 1>Way, that right, And that's not me putting down a

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<v Speaker 1>certain faith in general. I have actually a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>respect for the faith that I grew up in, which

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<v Speaker 1>taught this right. You know, hey, say a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>you know our fathers. I grew up in that faith,

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<v Speaker 1>and I have a lot of respect for it. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's not me disrespecting it. But what I am saying

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<v Speaker 1>and that's okay. And so I believe that this was

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<v Speaker 1>not given to recite. Now, do I believe reciting this

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<v Speaker 1>prayer is a bad thing. No, of course, not reciting

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<v Speaker 1>it's a good thing. That's fine. But the idea of

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<v Speaker 1>saying like, okay, the greater the sin, the more you

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<v Speaker 1>have to repeat. Well, that's clearly what Jesus said doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>get you anywhere, right, And so that it's not. And

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<v Speaker 1>besides that, here's the other reason why we know that

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<v Speaker 1>is because in another gospel, when he teaches us how

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<v Speaker 1>to pray, he leaves a certain part out right, So

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, so it's like, so he taught us to

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<v Speaker 1>pray differently. So it's almost as if, you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>go to the other gospel and you say, Jesus, don't

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<v Speaker 1>you know the Lord's prayer? Right? And Jesus like, that's

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<v Speaker 1>because it's not something to recite. It's a it's a

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<v Speaker 1>it's a pattern, isn't it. It's a model. It is

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus is saying, hey, here's the building blocks of a

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<v Speaker 1>great prayer.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So anyway, was it the Pharisees and the other gospels?

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<v Speaker 2>No, it was not.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so I just think in translation, and so I

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<v Speaker 1>attached it. Yeah, yeah, okay, okay, So so maybe it

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<v Speaker 1>was the maybe it was the maybe I'm thinking of

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<v Speaker 1>the Pharisee staying on the corner, putting ashes on the wall.

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<v Speaker 2>He calls them hypocrites. Remember fast Yeah, remember.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think it's the Pharisees putting ashes on

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<v Speaker 1>their heads. Yeah, it's fasting.

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<v Speaker 2>So this idea, Jesus does teach us to be persistent

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<v Speaker 2>in prayer. So he's not saying it's wrong to come

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<v Speaker 2>back to God with the same prayer request you had

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<v Speaker 2>last time. Correct, that's not wrong. So he teaches us

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<v Speaker 2>to be persistent. He talks about the woman who keeps

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<v Speaker 2>coming back to the judge. He talks about right, continuing

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<v Speaker 2>to knock on the door, continue to ask, continue to

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<v Speaker 2>see right. So he's not saying that persistence is wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>He's saying that that going through the motions over and

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<v Speaker 2>over and over again is wrong. Like, so I was

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<v Speaker 2>with somebody from another faith who also is famous for praying,

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<v Speaker 2>and we were getting ready to go do a thing,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was time for prayers, and so I said, oh, okay, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, I'll wait. Oh no, I get this

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<v Speaker 2>done real quick. I know this prayer come back over right,

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<v Speaker 2>So I just remember. So then I asked him about it, So, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I say that prayer every time I'm in a hurry,

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<v Speaker 2>I just hurry up and do that one. I said, well,

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<v Speaker 2>it feels a little perfunctory as well. We're commanded to

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<v Speaker 2>we have to pray five times a day, we have

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<v Speaker 2>to do this. And so then it turned into a

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<v Speaker 2>don't just keep saying the same words over and over

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<v Speaker 2>and over again, repetitively. What God's looking for is a

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<v Speaker 2>relational experience right where we're speaking from our hearts, your heart, right,

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<v Speaker 2>he wants our hearts. And in another translation, it says,

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<v Speaker 2>when you pray, don't Babylon and on as the Pagans do.

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<v Speaker 2>It's what the King James says. Right here, he says,

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<v Speaker 2>as the gentiles do, because they think their prayers are

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<v Speaker 2>answered merely by repeating their words again and again. An incantation,

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<v Speaker 2>a spell, right, some kind of that. That's how a

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<v Speaker 1>It.

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<v Speaker 2>If I just chant this thing, oh, then I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to get God's attention. And what Jesus

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<v Speaker 2>is saying, listen, it's not spells, it's not incantations, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not chanting. It's going to get my attention. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>personal conversation between a child and his father. That that's

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<v Speaker 2>what gets my attention. And then he goes, hey, here's

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<v Speaker 2>a good framework if you're going to talk to your

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<v Speaker 2>dad about these things. First of all, acknowledge who he is, right,

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<v Speaker 2>our father, who art in heaven. That's so we're acknowledging

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<v Speaker 2>who he is. Hollowed be your name or in this one,

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<v Speaker 2>may your name be kept holy. That's the meaning of it.

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<v Speaker 2>What we're doing now is we're celebrating him for who

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<v Speaker 2>he is. That's that's really what you're doing there. You're

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<v Speaker 2>the creator, you're the provider. You're the one that can

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<v Speaker 2>you know, is not bound by this earth or no

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<v Speaker 2>problem is too big for you. That's what we're doing.

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<v Speaker 2>We're having a conversation. It's not specifically those words, it's

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<v Speaker 2>that attitude. And then when he says, may your kingdom

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<v Speaker 2>come soon, he's he and may year will be done

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<v Speaker 2>as it is on earth as it is in heaven.

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<v Speaker 2>Is saying now, and you're in charge, So I recognize

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<v Speaker 2>who you are. I recognize that there's nothing you can't do,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I want you to do what you decide

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<v Speaker 2>is best. Right, that's really what you're saying there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So the building so that you're just boring me, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>sorry about that, bully, Chris is bored by prayer.

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<v Speaker 1>So the uh, the building blocks that I was referring

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<v Speaker 1>to earlier is our number one is declared God's greatness.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and then then the second.

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<v Speaker 1>One is acknowledge our dependence, right, our dependence for what,

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<v Speaker 1>our dependence for his is?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, you know, give us today this is yeah, the food,

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<v Speaker 2>forgive us our sins.

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<v Speaker 1>Forgive us of our sins. And so there's there's there's

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<v Speaker 1>a list of things that were dependent on him. But

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<v Speaker 1>but declare God's greatness is the first building block, which

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<v Speaker 1>I love. I love that most of us learned it.

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<v Speaker 1>Hallowed be thy name, right, Yeah, and it says here,

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<v Speaker 1>may your name be kept holy. But another translation for

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<v Speaker 1>hallowed be thy name, actually a better translation is great

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<v Speaker 1>is your name hallowed? How it means great, great is

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<v Speaker 1>your name? And that's what it is. It's declaring God's greatness.

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<v Speaker 1>It's recognizing just to it is your praying too, in

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<v Speaker 2>I push on that just a little bit. Holy is

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<v Speaker 2>what hallowed means, Hallowed means set aside. Yeah, so a

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<v Speaker 2>better translation is holy is holy. But because your name

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<v Speaker 2>is set aside, it's greater than every name. It's it's

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<v Speaker 2>beyond right, So it's not wrong. It's just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>to say, great is your name, but his name is

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<v Speaker 2>only great because it's so far beyond all the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of ours. That that's that's the idea You're saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Greatness would be a byproduct of the real translation, which

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<v Speaker 1>would be holyness accurately like holy. Yeah, yeah, so holy

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<v Speaker 2>Right, right, But we we think of holy raw, right,

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<v Speaker 2>We tend to think of holy as like without sin.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, that's a word. That's a meaning of it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>But holy means set apart that that that's really what

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<v Speaker 2>it means at its foundation is it's it's been set

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<v Speaker 2>apart for God, only for God's use, only for God's benefit.

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<v Speaker 2>Which was that could be the idea of great Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's it is. Your name is so far set

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<v Speaker 2>apart from ours, it's almost incomprehensible how great you and

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<v Speaker 2>your name are compared to interesting little people. Interesting? Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's it's both. It's like flip sides of the

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<v Speaker 2>same coin, right, Yeah, it's very interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And then and then uh, and then he goes

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<v Speaker 1>he removes everybody else out of the equation. He says,

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<v Speaker 1>he says, get get yourself into a private place to pray. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So now again, like you said, praying in public is

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<v Speaker 1>not wrong, right, but he's talking about your motivation for prayer.

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<v Speaker 1>And he says, say, when you pray, go to away

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<v Speaker 1>by yourself, shut the door behind you, and pray to

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<v Speaker 1>will reward you. And what he's really saying is is

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<v Speaker 1>he's saying, like, don't do it in public for the

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<v Speaker 1>wrong motivation. If you do it in private, your father

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<v Speaker 1>is the only one that needs to hear you, right,

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<v Speaker 1>other people don't need to hear you. It's fine if

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<v Speaker 1>What he's saying, your motivation for your reward for your

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<v Speaker 1>prayer only needs to be your father.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, right, yeah, Well there's an intimacy in this. Jesus

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<v Speaker 2>prayed public correct manytimes all the time. Oh Father, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>help me do this so that people would see how

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<v Speaker 2>great you are. He many times Jesus prays publicly. But

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<v Speaker 2>there's a public conversation I have with my friends and

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<v Speaker 2>in the thousands of people who attend Heritage Church and

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<v Speaker 2>all the people who listen online. And then there's also

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<v Speaker 2>the intimate family conversations that only me and my wife

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<v Speaker 2>and my kids are having, right, And what Jesus is

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<v Speaker 2>inviting you to is if you only participate in public prayer, right, One,

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<v Speaker 2>don't be prideful like the Pharisees or the hypocrites are here,

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<v Speaker 2>that's one. Don't just do it for your own attention

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<v Speaker 2>spiritually and going through the religious ritual of saying your

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<v Speaker 2>incantation and your chanting. But do you know what I

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<v Speaker 2>think what he's trying to do is he's trying to say,

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<v Speaker 2>don't you know there's an intimate conversation you can have

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<v Speaker 2>with God that's private, that's not for everybody else. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>Thanking God for the food at the dinner table is

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<v Speaker 2>very different than the kind of conversation that you can

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<v Speaker 2>have with God privately. And that's what he's inviting us too,

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<v Speaker 2>is this intimacy with God that you can't have in public.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Have you ever met anybody with a prayer closet?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, lots of people.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, where they actually have a dedicated closet or space

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<v Speaker 1>where it's just a prayer thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I have a good buddy of mine, my pastor

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<v Speaker 2>growing up, had one have a good.

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<v Speaker 1>Buddy of mine who bought a building in the county

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere to run a business. And he's a mechanic, so

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he's always like greased up and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they always covered in grease and oil. And he has

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<v Speaker 1>it upstairs that is will never be finished because of

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<v Speaker 1>something with the city blah blah blah. So he has

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<v Speaker 1>this upstairs that could be remodeled and be this whole

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<v Speaker 1>second floor where you could put a business. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it is a monstrosity of a place, but he can't

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<v Speaker 1>do it. So it's like this wasted space. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>a big, long story. So he has this big, huge

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<v Speaker 1>staircase and he has what he has now named the

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<v Speaker 1>upper room, and and he says, what do I do

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<v Speaker 1>with this and he says, I know it. Actually it

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<v Speaker 1>was his wife who said, I'll create a prayer prayer space,

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<v Speaker 1>and so and so it's you know, it's it's this

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<v Speaker 1>the one little area that is near a bay window

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<v Speaker 1>near the front of the place, and she's just decked

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<v Speaker 1>out this wooden, unfinished area and she's made this little

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<v Speaker 1>haven and they call it the Upper Room. So that

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<v Speaker 1>so from time to time he'll he'll be having a

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<v Speaker 1>bad day at work and he's like, I'll be back

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<v Speaker 1>right and he just walks up the stairs and they're

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<v Speaker 1>like there he.

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<v Speaker 2>Goes, go to the upper room, go in the upper room,

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<v Speaker 2>and then amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but it's a dedicated space and if you think

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<v Speaker 1>about it, it's very much like this concept.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's a prayer closet, so to speak. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>very big one. But he's, uh, he's like, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to be in private and I want to go to

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<v Speaker 1>my heavenly Father. And in this case, he's able to

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<v Speaker 1>do it in the middle of his day where he

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<v Speaker 1>can come back down and say, okay, let's go.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, good to go.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's great.

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<v Speaker 2>So so then we ask God to provide what we

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<v Speaker 2>need for today. We don't worry about tomorrow. Just Lord

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<v Speaker 2>provide for us. Today, we confess our sin, which I

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<v Speaker 2>think is important. It's interesting most of us start off

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<v Speaker 2>with our sin. God, I'm sorry for my sin. I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't deserve to be talking to you. Which forgive

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<v Speaker 2>my sining? Right, that's requests yeah, yeah, or we ignore

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<v Speaker 2>our sin and just go straight to hey, this is

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<v Speaker 2>what I need. So we got to start off with

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<v Speaker 2>who God is and the fact that God's in control

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<v Speaker 2>and it's his will. But then we do get to

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<v Speaker 2>these other things. Here's what I need. Would you forgive

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<v Speaker 2>my sins? And then he says, forgive us our sins,

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<v Speaker 2>as we have forgiven those who sin against us. And

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<v Speaker 2>so you know, there's a passages in the Bible says

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<v Speaker 2>we love because He first loved us. Paul challenges us

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<v Speaker 2>with the idea that we should forgive because we've been forgiven.

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<v Speaker 2>Same idea, and Jesus actually says those words, if you

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<v Speaker 2>forgive those who if you forgive those who sin against you,

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<v Speaker 2>your heavenly father will forgive you. But if you refuse

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<v Speaker 2>to forgive others, your father will not forgive your sins.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a really strong statement, right, but we talked about

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<v Speaker 2>forgiveness yesterday, didn't We were talking about that. That Alls,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm not saying what you did is okay. Alls.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying is I'm giving God the responsibility of bringing justice,

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<v Speaker 2>not me. Right, I'm giving up my right to prosecute.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just going to make note of this note

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<v Speaker 1>in the in my Bible it says this prayer begins

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<v Speaker 1>with God's interests not ours, God's name not ours, God's

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<v Speaker 1>kingdom not ours, and God's will not ours. Yeah, we

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<v Speaker 1>should not ask anything. Yeah, it's just interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's really well.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, that looks like our time, and thanks for joining

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<v Speaker 1>us this week. Hopefully it's been a great theme and

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<v Speaker 1>a great thing to ponder on. But hopefully we'll pick

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<v Speaker 1>up next time with a different theme under the umbrella

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<v Speaker 1>of dangerous and we'll see you then. Mhm.