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Welcome to the Colour Time podcast.

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I am your host, Vincent Taylor.

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This is the podcast where

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we speak with professionals

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who work with colour.

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Today we are speaking to Mr. Alex Williams.

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Alex is the founder, CEO,

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and all around nice fella from Louper.

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Louper's a remote, I don't know what you call it,

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viewing system, we'll ask

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him, we'll ask him what it is,

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but it's used for remote workflows

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and things like that for grading.

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So I'm really looking

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forward to having a chat with him.

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So let's go.

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Take your seats because the

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hourglass is about to turn.

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We are entering the world of the micro podcast.

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Explore the craft, creativity, and science

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of professionals who use colour to tell stories.

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Welcome to the Colour Timer with Vincent Taylor.

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- Alex, thank you for joining me.

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- Thanks for having me,

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it's nice to be here, Vincent.

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- Yeah, man, I appreciate you taking time out.

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I so often forget to start my little sand timer,

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so let's do that first so the game show can begin.

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So boom, oh, I'm being so well behaved

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for remembering these things.

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And all the construction sounds

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seem to have stopped all around me,

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seem to have stopped all around me,

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so that's good as well.

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- What countdown thing going on there?

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Is that intentional behind your screen?

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Is that intentional behind your screen?

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- That's just, it should

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just be the recording, I hope.

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- Yeah, cool.

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- Oh yeah, there's the

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hourglass thing, cool, nice.

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- We'll see if it works.

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It's all kind of stuck together with Band-aids.

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Let's jump straight in.

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This is a big, broad question

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and it can go in a zillion different directions,

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but you have a company called Louper.

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Tell me about Louper.

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What do you do and what service does that offer?

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- Yeah, so it's a little startup.

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It's a cloud-based live collaboration platform

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for filmmakers, so

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for filmmakers, so

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predominantly used in post-production,

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so across editorial,

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colorists, VFX artists, sound designers.

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Also used a little bit in production.

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And it really is in four words,

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it's Zoom for video professionals.

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So it's a kind of a meeting

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live collaboration platform

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you can do live over the shoulder.

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It's an edit or sound for color sessions remotely,

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and the idea is that it's very focused

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towards artists and creatives

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working with their colleagues and clients.

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So really trying to recreate the experience

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of sitting in an edit suite or

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cutting room or grading suite,

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but trying to do that online remotely

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with stakeholders from all over town

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or all over the world.

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So yeah, we're a small company.

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We started sort of 2022.

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bit of venture capital funding,

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and we're having a lot of fun.

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- So how long has it been going then?

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How long has Louper been going?

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- It's officially two years in April

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since we've kind of launched publicly.

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But I started as a side project.

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I really wanted a way to achieve remote working

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with directors.

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I was an editor for a long time.

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I don't come from a technical background at all.

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and music videos and feature films,

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and really built Louper because I needed

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a really easy, simple to use platform

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that would allow me to work with directors

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and ad agencies from anywhere,

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and to do it in a way that kind of recreated

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experience of working in person

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I came up through the ranks working in edit suites

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kind of platform like your

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collaboration feeling and benefits.

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I started at a totally as a side project,

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become a fully fledged company,

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but yeah, here we are.

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from clients and people to Louper?

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- Yeah, it's been interesting.

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maybe that will help contextualize it.

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We started going after freelancers and independence

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post facilities and post houses,

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and actually really freelancers initially.

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and that sort of from a product perspective

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that would suit their needs,

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and also from a budget perspective,

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and really use that as our

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testing ground, if you will,

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to sort of get product market fit,

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to figure out what customers wanted,

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who they were, how they were using it.

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and what happened was that

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companies started using it,

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and post facilities started using it,

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and pretty big companies

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started getting interested in it.

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to suit their needs as well.

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where we've got sort of this 50-50 customer base

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where half our customers and users are freelance,

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individual freelancers,

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and half are larger post

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facilities and studios and so on.

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not by design or by intention,

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just that's how it's happened.

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outbound sales and marketing.

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product-led growth and inbound stuff,

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so people discover us and get referred

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colleagues, and they come to find us.

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to attract US customers,

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that's just kind of what's happened.

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Louper was recommended to me

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and I was looking at different options

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and there was a big loud, "you just use Louper"

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just like from most of the

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everyone seems really, really

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happy with it, which is great.

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Is that a coincidence with the pandemic,

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with the way things happen,

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or was that part of the motivation?

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- It was part of the motivation.

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around with this kind of workflow

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and the source of product in 2019, so pre-pandemic.

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required proprietary hardware,

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it was pretty tricky to use,

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but the end result was great.

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with a director who lived in LA.

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he had to go back to LA and we still wanted to do

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like a week's worth of changes.

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but the whole setup was incredibly convoluted,

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required a big proprietary hardware box

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and I thought there are kids streaming on Twitch,

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there's gotta be an easy way to do this.

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It's not that easy.

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But yeah, that was where it initially started

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and then I didn't really do anything about it

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until I was bored and sitting at home

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during lockdown in 2020.

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- So it was either gonna be make lots of bread

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or build Louper.

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- Yeah, and actually I started with the bread

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and then switched over to Louper.

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- I do like, one of the things

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that kind of instantly sold me

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with Louper was from a client perspective,

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how bloody easy it is.

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many hoops to make that work

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and people just, they can't be bothered,

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they don't wanna deal with that.

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and get on with doing the job.

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and people just, it just has to be one click join.

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they don't want to be,

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they just want it to be as simple as possible.

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editorial advertising for a long time

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and infused it into the product

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and to try to make something as simple as possible.

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product does keep expanding

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and we keep adding features

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and listening to user feedback.

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because I was gonna ask you,

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because in the short time that I've been using it,

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relatively short time I've been using it,

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I've seen it evolving.

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might not be able to talk about

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this, but what's coming up or

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is this gonna be an NAB reveal

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that we can't talk about or?

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- Yeah, so there's no particular NAB reveal,

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there are multiple things going on.

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There's a lot we're working on.

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We try to be pretty open with customers,

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we're pretty communicative on new updates

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and stuff coming out.

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We're always improving the platform.

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separates us a little bit from

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some of the other solutions

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out there is we are trying

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as hard as we can to really make it

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a complete collaboration solution.

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and some people are only using that feature

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with the ability to upload video files,

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have collaborative watch

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passes of those video files,

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in addition to doing a

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typical live streaming session.

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And so a lot of the focus

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this year is on building out

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that side of the product, doing timestamp comments,

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all that kind of stuff.

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That really should be ultimately a platform

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that serves both the needs of live streaming,

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real time sessions, but also the ability

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to do timestamp comments and review links.

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And really building out.

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Yeah, so as opposed to having to have two or three

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different solutions to cater your needs,

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we really want to try and build it out into

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kind of a platform that answers all your needs

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from a collaboration and working with clients

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and colleagues point of view

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in terms of reviewing content.

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- Yeah, I mean, straight away, I'm going,

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"Oh my God, that would be fantastic."

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Is nothing better than doing a live session

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in person remotely, it's always gonna be better

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because you're getting that feedback straight away

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and you're getting emotional reactions

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to when people watch it.

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But it's really handy if people can just also

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scribble down some notes.

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So when you go back and you go,

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"Oh shit, I missed that thing about the close up

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of about the guy's face."

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And yeah, that's great.

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- Yeah, for me, it's like the ultimate thing

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should be probably

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something that is synchronous live.

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First with a graceful fall back to async

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or allow people to do both.

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That's where I think we're headed.

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I won't go down a rabbit hole

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because it would take much longer than 15 minutes

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about generative AI and all that kind of stuff.

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I think what we're trying to do is to be

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sort of a meetings collaboration platform

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where you can collaborate

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synchronously and asynchronously

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in one cohesive way.

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What's interesting as well is that some customers

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are using Looper for production as well.

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So they're doing sort of like remote

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or virtual video village.

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And then running that same show through post.

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So they'd be using Louper

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for video village initially

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and then for grade and sound mix

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and color sessions during post.

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- And just so I understand that.

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So it would be a situation where

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certain people couldn't be on set obviously.

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And so they can just send

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what's happening real time.

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- Exactly.

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- As if people are sitting in that video village.

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- Exactly, yeah.

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So you'd send out the production camera feed.

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Some people do both where they send a -

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like stream out a witness camera,

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like a GoPro, whatever, a wide angle witness camera

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and the production camera feed.

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So you can kind of get both.

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You can get the witness camera for context,

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the production camera feed as the video monitor.

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And it's exactly useful that it's used

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in cases where producers or

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stakeholders cannot be on set.

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Which is an interesting use case.

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It was one that we didn't really push very hard

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but people are just starting to use.

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- Yeah, that's really, really interesting.

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This next question is a

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little bit of crystal ball gazing.

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But I mean, do you think that working remotely

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is here to stay?

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- Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

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I saw it coming kind of a

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while before the pandemic,

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I think, you know, stuff was,

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and I certainly, just as a freelance editor,

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was starting to do,

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I was starting to do more and more stuff remotely

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around 2018, I would say.

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And I think things were

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heading in that direction anyway.

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I think the pandemic only accelerated it.

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I do, I'm not fooling anyone.

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I still think that working in person,

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if you can be in person with someone,

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at some point in the project, that's great.

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That, do it, right?

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That's first prize.

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You know, that's how I came up with ranks.

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That's how I learned.

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That's how I, you know, through osmosis,

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being in cutting rooms with directors and editors.

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And having that

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camaraderie, I think doing stuff live,

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... online remotely is great

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and will always be here

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and will probably become a predominant way

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that people work.

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But I don't think it should

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completely eradicate in person,

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if you can do it in person.

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- It's interesting to use the word camaraderie

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because it is that.

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There is something nice

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about that energy in a room.

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But I mean, another version

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of that is the hybrid thing

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where, you know, you get a

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couple of people in the room,

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but there's a couple of people who can't be there.

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And so you end up using, you

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know, Louper for that situation

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and which I've done a couple of times

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and that's been great.

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That's worked really well.

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- For sure.

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Yeah, yeah, exactly.

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So yeah, I hear use cases like that all the time

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and that's happening more and more,

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especially with, you know, important people,

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not, you know, moving out of cities,

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but still having a say.

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You can do hybrid sessions.

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You know, we had a customer a few months ago say

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that they were planning on renting space.

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They were working on an indie film,

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planning on renting an office space in LA

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to work together with the director and editor,

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ran a session on Louper as a test

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and liked it so much they decided

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against renting office space

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and just decided to, you know, use Looper all day,

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which was awesome.

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- Which is fantastic, right?

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Actually, is there a limit to the time

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Actually, is there a limit to the time

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that you can have a Louper session going?

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- There are, depends on the tier.

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So free tier is pretty limited.

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Plus is, I think, two hours straight.

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Pro is eight hours straight, so all day

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and then the studio tier is like 24 hours.

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- Gotcha.

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- And then there's no limit to how many times

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you can have a session, so

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you can restart and go again.

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- And that's why I will

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never get the top, top, top tier

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because I don't wanna grade for 24 hours straight.

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That would be awful.

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(laughing)

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- Yeah, yeah.

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- It's really for ...

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for customers who don't wanna think about it.

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- No, that's it.

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You've been doing more and more interviews

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and I quite like, I've just

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started doing this recently,

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but I quite like it, where I ask you, you know,

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is there something that you

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wish somebody would ask you

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about your product that people don't ask you?

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And you can say no, you can say no.

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Everyone asks me everything, but you know,

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but I'm curious.

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(laughing) Or something that you would like to kind of--

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- I mean, it's the one thing I kind of already,

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I think it's the one thing

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I already kind of answered,

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which was, or spoke about at least,

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which was I think people

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make the mistake of viewing us

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and what we're trying to do

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is just as a passing service

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or something small and

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what we're really trying to do

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is build something big,

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both in scope of the product

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of what it does, both in

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scope of who we're serving.

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You know, I think that's the next,

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the next five, six, seven, eight years

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is gonna be heavily focused on live synchronous

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collaboration tools in the cloud.

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- Yeah.

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- And we wanna try and be at the front of that.

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- Yeah.

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I have never done this before where we've actually

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finished our series of questions exactly

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when the color time has finished.

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That's genius.

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That means you're wonderfully succinct.

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- I timed that pretty well.

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I mean, I was watching it.

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- You did!

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(laughing)

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- I was keeping an eye on it.

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That thing on the screen

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was particularly useful, yeah.

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- Alex, it's been a delight and I'm really grateful

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that you took time out and I mean,

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I for one am gonna absolutely keep using Louper

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and I was thinking about it this morning.

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I went, I don't want it to

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turn into a fanboy infomercial,

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but at the same time, I wanted it to people

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to get a bit more of an education about it.

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If someone decides they wanna jump into the world

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and use Louper, I mean, all the information's there

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on the website of how to

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set up and all the rest of it?

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- Yeah, exactly.

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So we have, yeah, we've

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got super decent setup guides

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and onboarding stuff.

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We've got a wealth of

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information when you sign up as well.

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So yeah, Louper.io is the

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website, LOUPER.IO

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- Yeah, I'll put that in the

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show notes for everyone as well.

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- Yeah, and then we also have, you know,

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we've got onboarding capabilities.

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We're happy to jump on calls as people.

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Yeah, we're pretty open and accessible.

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- Awesome.

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Well, Alex, thank you so much.

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I really appreciate it.

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- Thank you very much, Vincent.

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Great to talk to you. - Cheers.

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- Thanks.

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- Alex, thank you so much for taking time out

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to be on The Color Timer.

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It was really, really good to speak with you.

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There was a couple of things

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we chatted about afterwards,

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which I went, oh, we should have included that,

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but we were good.

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We were really well-behaved.

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We kept it to 15 minutes, which was excellent.

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Thank you to my executive

526
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producer, MixingLight.com.

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If you are watching this or listening to this

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on the Mixing Light website,

529
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you already know what they are or what they do.

530
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If you don't, then check them out, MixingLIght.com.

531
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They can help you with everything color-related

532
00:18:27.958 --> 00:18:29.916
and more, actually, and

533
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they're a really fantastic asset.

534
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Thank you, the listener or watcher or both,

535
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for taking time out to listen to the podcast.

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Like and subscribe to all that kind of stuff.

537
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I know I keep saying it,

538
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but it really, really does make a difference.

539
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It really does help and look after yourself.

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I'll see you next time.

541
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Cheers.

542
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