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Hello and welcome to pickleball Therapy,

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the podcast dedicated to
your pickleball improvement.

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Pickleball Therapy is brought
to you by betterpickleball.

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Com.
We are part of the betterpickleball.

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Com family.

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So this is where the
podcast originates from.

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I have your host, Tony Reuig.

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I hope you're having a great week.

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This is a special episode of the podcast.

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There's a new book out on the market

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called The pickleball Mindset, which is
written by my fellow senior professional,

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pickleball player, Dayne Gingrich,
and his co-author, Jill Martin.

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I have not had the pleasure of meeting
Jill Martin yet, but she's a fellow

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attorney, so I'm assuming
we get along fantastic.

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Unless we're in court, I guess, and then

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on opposite side, then we have to
argue with each other, as attorneys do.

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But I wanted to give you my thoughts about
the book, and then at the end of the

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podcast, I'll give you my verdict on
whether I think it's worthwhile to dive

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into this book, if you
haven't done so already.

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I had a chance to read the book
over the last 10 days or so.

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I had some time and was able to
get through the book.

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Overall, I thought the book had some nice

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nuggets in it, and I'm going
to share those with you.

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There's a couple of areas that I think
maybe could have been developed a little

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more in-depth, maybe, or
explained a little differently.

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Then I'll give you some thoughts in terms

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of who the audience of the book
might be best suited for this book.

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Let's dive to the podcast.

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As I do, if you're listening to this

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podcast, anytime near
its publication, we do have some camp

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If you're looking for a camp opportunity.

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There aren't that many in the year.

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If it's your time for camp,

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join CJ, me, and our other awesome
coaches at one of our camps.

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All right, let's dive into the book here

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in terms of what I thought was, and I'm
going basically in the order that the book

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developed its concepts and then
telling you what I think about it.

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One of the first
concepts that Dayne and Jill address is

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they talk about Stop chasing the
Wind and Finding your Purpose.

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If you listen to this podcast at all, then
you know that we are big fans of that

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concept, which is wins, losses,
and things like that just aren't

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how you should define your
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It's a really limiting way of thinking
about the sport and thinking more

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importantly about
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I thought that was a really good starting

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point, good place to start from,
finding your purpose in play.

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We asked the question on the podcast and

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in other teachings that we do,
why do you play pickleball?

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Then once you're clear on that, then
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as long as you're getting what you
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I thought that was a really good concept.

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This was my biggest takeaway,
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I think this was the biggest concept These

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sorts of books tend to have a
concept that's the big one.

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For instance, if you read Tim Galway's

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Book, The Enter game of Tennis,
the idea of self-one, self-two, that was,

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to me anyway, that was the defining
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Josh Waisen's book, The Art of Learning,
the idea of being the

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anorexic hermit crab, I thought
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This idea of pre-acceptance
was a really good concept, a really A

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interesting way of presenting it, a
really interesting way of coming at it.

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The idea basically is that
you pre-accept any outcome.

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Now, Dayne and Jill are clear about this.

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They're not suggesting to you that you

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roll over and go, Well, I'm
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It's not that pre-acceptance.

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It's just that he's pre-accepting that

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anything can happen in a
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Nothing is guaranteed.

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So pre-accepting is going to make you much

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more amenable to whatever
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I thought that was a really, really
powerful concept in the book.

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Frankly, I'll give you my whole verdict in
a second, but just to get that

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pre-acceptance concept alone, I think it's
worth reading the book and reading that

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section on pre-acceptance, the way it's
explained and the way it's brought.

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I think it's really valuable.

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Dayne has always been a very
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I knew this from before the book, not

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just from his writings, but also I've
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I know how he carries himself when he

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plays, and visualization is a big part of
his success as a We

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use visualization as well inside better
pickleball, inside the pickle system,

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inside our athletic pillar, inside our
camps, the ones I mentioned earlier.

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Visualization is super, super, super,
super, super It just continues to...

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It's just a reminder of the power of

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visualization in your
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The next one had to do with
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I thought that was a fine idea
in the book, choosing confidence.

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Obviously, that's great.

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I wasn't really sure that that one landed

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in the book, meaning the
methodology for doing that.

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Let me be clear, I'm offering my
position or my views on these things.

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It's not intended as a
criticism of Dayne or Jill.

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I remember a few years ago listening to a

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gentleman speaking about how it's much
easier to criticize than it is to create.

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The idea being that, say you write a poem

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or a play or a book or
anything, that's hard.

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Creating from scratch a new
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Critiquing it, that's easy.

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But I promise you a review, so
I am going to give you a review.

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But again, none of the things
I say meant as a criticism.

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I think the idea of choosing
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It's sound.
I endorse that.

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I'm just not sure that that
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because if it was If we could just
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That'd be great.

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Then the next one had to do with turning
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The confidence in the next one, Instead of

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looking at it as pressure, looking at it
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opportunities, again,
it could be valuable.

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It may resonate with you and
you may say, You know what?

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This really helps me out because I can

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take pressure and I can
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That's fine.

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I would view this as a good middle step

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along your journey, your
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We believe that there's a bigger

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shift available to you beyond
moving pressure to opportunity.

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There's another step in the process

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that will take you further with
your overall mental growth.

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Again, if you've been a long time
listening to the podcast, you've heard

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different episodes that talk about this,
and we'll be exploring more in that and

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the book that we'll be publishing in
the next, I hope in a couple of months.

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It just seems like never-ending.

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I'm sure Dayne and Jill would agree with

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that, that it just seems to drag on, just
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But in any event, again, pressure and

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opportunity, good idea, but we would
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Overall, the end of the book, I'm not

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going to review it too much because the
end of the book, it was basically

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dedicated more to tournament
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The partner selection stuff I thought was
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He called it synergy or they call this
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about the idea that
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the energy between partners is
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of the other player, that's deadly
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That concept, I think, exploring
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The reason I say it's more for tournament
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many players, when you're playing in open
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control who your partner
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Obviously, that partner selection
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It's a good concept.

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It's a great concept, but it's not going
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Then there was a lot of the book that
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Again, not a criticism, perfectly fine.
I mean, there's a lot of tournament

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players out there and having tournament
concepts explained to you by I'm going to

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focus on Dayne more than Jill here, just
because Dayne has been playing tournaments

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for a long time at the highest
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ideas about tournament play are going to
be super valuable to tournament players.

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That's something that will help
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Frankly, also if you're
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It doesn't only have to be tournaments,
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team league, ladder league, any
competitive play that you're significantly

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involved in, those sections of the book
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used to you as you try to be more
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One other thing I would mention about the
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it is it's written in two voices,
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It's just written in two voices.

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It's written in Dayne's voice
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For some of you, you may enjoy that
back and forth where you have one voice

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and one perspective, one framing, and
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They do something interesting, and
I read it in a Kindle.

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I'm assuming that the print book looks
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When
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type and Jill's another voice, which I
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But you may or may not like that style.

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That's more of a stylistic thing for you.

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I would say overall verdict, I would

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recommend reading the book if you are on a
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I would suggest to you that with few

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exceptions, there's almost no book
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The way I said, it may sound like a slide.

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I didn't mean to sound
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What I mean to say is,
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If the book didn't have anything to
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But the book has plenty to offer to you.

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The idea of pre-acceptance,
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Again, even the switching pressure to
opportunity may very well resonate with

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you and be that little push that
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I find that all the books that I've read
in this space have something to teach.

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I would say even a book like
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felt was a book that was maybe
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too heavy, skewed towards the high-level
competitive player like Brad Gilbert.

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If you're playing at the US Open,
yeah, read Brad Gilbert's book.

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If you're not, I don't know.

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But even that book, I think, had enough in
there to learn something, to add something

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to the conversation if you're
on your mental process journey.

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I think this book has, frankly, more to
offer you than Brad Gilbert's book does in

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terms of Winningugly,
or the one called Winningugly, because

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I think this book has
several concepts that I was pleasantly

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surprised to to read in there and to
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Again, I won't come back to it because I

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think that's, to me, the biggest takeaway
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pre-acceptance and the way that
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If you're on a journey,
pick up a copy of the book.

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It's available on Amazon.

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I'll put a link in the show
notes, and we'll put it in our...

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If you go to betterpickupall.
Com under Resources, we'll include it in

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our Amazon page so that you don't
have to go hunting around for it.

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All right, I hope you enjoyed this special
episode, Reviewing Pickleball Mindset by

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Dayne and Jill, and I thank them for
adding their voices to this conversation.

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I would suggest adding their voices
constructively and helpfully, positively,

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right in this conversation and helping all
of us athletes who happen to play a sport

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called pickleball in our
mental improvement journey.

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I hope to see you this Friday during our
regular episode of Pickleball Therapy.

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Just so you have it on your calendars,
make sure that you have July...

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I'm not going to remember now.
It's mid-July.

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Just put that mid-July there.

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We're going to have our Pickleball
Summit, so put it on your calendars.

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It's, in July.
Put that on your calendars.

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Make sure you have it marked off so you
can join us for our pickleball Summit.

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I hope you have a great rest of your week,

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and I'll see you this Friday during your
regular episode of pickleball Therapy.

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Be well.